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I'm your host, Joshua Lane.
My guest is Joly Root.
Joly Root is the senior nutritionist for Carlson.
Carlson known for their fish oils.
Carlson Vitamins established in 1965
by Susan Carlson, registered pharmacist.
One of my favorite companies
and one of the most important nutritionist supplement houses
in the field today.
Joly Root, welcome to the show.
- Thank you, Josh.
It's good to be here with you.
- Very nice to have you on.
- We're talking about the holidays.
- Yes, the holidays, that's right.
That's right.
And how does EPA DHA play into our health
during the holiday season?
- Well, I think the main thing that I wanted to get to,
we've talked a lot about EPA and DHA
supporting better mood.
And people do have issues with depression this time of year.
But I really wanted to talk about balancing blood sugar levels
because we eat more sugar.
We eat more desserts and sweets and pastries.
It's an indulgent time of year.
And people are going to parties
and there's a lot of socializing.
And so we might be drinking more alcohol this time of year too.
And the thing that those things have in common
is this blood sugar roller coaster that happens
when people consume a lot of simple carbohydrates.
And so the relationship is important
because if you think that blood sugar stability
is just about whether or not you're
inching toward diabetes, that's not true.
When people have that roller coaster going on
with blood sugar levels, a thing that happens
during the lows is stress hormone levels increase
and the chemistry of depression increases
and tempers get shorter.
So when blood sugar is unstable, we are unstable.
So it's not just about carbohydrates.
The fats that we eat change the way that our cells
respond to insulin.
Insulin is the hormone that is released after we eat.
It directs muscle and fat cells to take up glucose
and it tells the liver to store rather than produce sugar.
The fats that we eat influence inflammation
and inflammation plays a role in blood sugar balance.
And the fats that we eat even affect our long-term blood sugar
marker A1c.
So among the fats that we consume, the merino megathreys,
the EPA and the DHA that we talk about quite frequently
here on your program stand out
because they weave into cell membranes
and they cool chronic inflammation
and they modulate signaling steps that help insulin
do its job and the result of that is better support
for healthy glucose metabolism and cardiometabolic health.
- Wow.
- I'm sure that you have a lot of people that deal
with insulin resistance which is where our cells
don't respond to insulin that well.
So the pancreas makes more insulin and over time
that can raise our fasting glucose levels
and our triglyceride levels and A1c.
And so A1c is a lab marker that reflects the percentage
of hemoglobin that has sugar attached.
It really tells you your average blood sugar level
over a roughly three month period.
And having lower A1c usually means you have better
long-term glucose control.
So the fats influence every step.
The insulin production, the insulin receptor function,
whether or not we're insulin resistant
and also are A1c levels because when the fats
wind their cells into the cell membranes
it increases the fluidity of the membranes
and the omega-3s increase the fluidity of insulin receptors
membrane environment and also insulin receptor signaling
and inflammation that interferes with insulin's action.
And so you can see that getting better levels
of these very healthy fats can influence
blood sugar control from a number of different metabolic
standpoints, mechanisms.
- Right, right.
Our guess is jolly root.
Jolly root the senior traditions for Carlson
Carlson known for fish oils.
So jolly it just seems that fat is very important for us
really always and during the holiday season
if we're gonna indulge ourselves in things
we usually think, no, no, we're not gonna use that.
We know it's not a great choice,
but now we see it as party food.
We're gonna let ourselves go with that.
So how do we use the fish oil to, you know,
maybe do slightly better or much better?
- Well, I think you wanna make a promise to yourself
that particularly at this time of year
you are taking your fish oils on a daily basis.
And we talk all the time about what's the best way to do that
and it doesn't matter whether you take a liquid fish oil
which I know you and I enjoy those
or whether you use capsules of fish oil.
The time to take them is when you're having a meal
and hopefully a meal that has got some good healthy fats in it.
So olive oil or avocado oil or, you know,
avocado itself in the meal to incorporate
some of that good mono unsaturated fat.
And when we're doing that on a daily basis
one of the primary things that we're doing
is we are cooling off chronic inflammation
because when we don't have enough of the omega-3s
then the other family of fats that is prevalent
in the American diet is omega-6.
And omega-6s with, you know, minor minor exceptions
are pro-inflammatory.
Inflammation is a hallmark of insulin resistance.
So when we're calming down the chronic inflammation
we are reducing insulin resistance.
- And so, Julie, now you just mentioned using oils or eating,
so if we're eating also chicken turkey lamb beef
does that count as oil fats?
Good for us, that's good.
- Well, the chicken turkey lamb and beef
usually have been fed a diet that makes them bigger sources
of omega-6 pro-inflammatory than omega-3 anti-inflammatory.
So, we want grass-fed beef now.
We'll have more omega-3 free-range chickens.
Probably have some more omega-3
but certainly the pasture raised chickens
have got more omega-3 and so do their eggs.
So the proteins that we choose do make a difference.
I'm glad you brought that up.
So one of the things that we recommend
to keep the omega-3s more prevalent in the diet
is that we eat more seafood
and seafood that is rich in omega-3s, so salmon.
And if you like them, sardines are a great source of omega-3.
It's not everyone's taste to have sardines
but people that love them,
they're getting some very good levels of omega-3 eating sardines
and chubis, mackerel, herring.
Tuna is a good source of omega-3.
So the tuna that I really, really like,
starkest makes a tuna that is in olive oil.
And it's a light tuna which is lower in mercury
but it's in a base of olive oil.
Well there you have two very healthy fats.
You've got the omega-3 from the tuna
and you've got the olive oil which is just great.
So the seafood is the better source of omega-3 in the diet.
Seafood, omega-3, egg yolks, these are places
where you're gonna get omega-3
and that is going to be countering
that pro-inflammatory influence of the omega-6s.
The land dwelling proteins have a tendency
to be higher in omega-6.
All right, our guest is Jolie Root.
Jolie Root, the sea nutritionist for Carlson,
Carlson known for the fish oils
and also introduced full spectrum vitamin E
to the marketplace in 1965,
founded by Susan Carlson, registered pharmacist.
Jolie, other fats that people might use, for example,
if they eat almonds or almond butter or walnuts
or walnut butter or even peanut butter,
is that good fat?
Yes, those are positive influences on health
and the nuts have protein and they have fiber and they have fat.
So they have a tendency, particularly you mentioned
the almonds and the walnuts, the macadamia nuts.
Those are, there's less carbohydrate content
in those nuts, peanuts are a little higher in carbs
but those other nuts that you mentioned are good sources
of mono unsaturated fats.
It puts them in the camp with avocado
and with olive oil and those have a positive influence
on inflammation and they're very healthy fats
which can help to stabilize blood sugar levels.
And when we talk about macronutrients,
so the foods that we eat, the macronutrients
that slow the release of glucose are fat, fiber and protein.
So in this light, even those land dwelling animal sources
are good in terms of slowing the glucose elevation
after a meal.
If you've got some protein and some fiber
and a good fat in your meal,
you're probably gonna have a slow and steady release
of the glucose into the bloodstream after that meal
and that means you're not on the roller coaster.
- Alrighty.
And I guess this jolly root, jolly root
the sea nutritionist for Carlson,
Carlson known for their fish oils.
Now jolly, how much EPA DHA in form of fish oil
is a good idea to take a day and when should we take it?
- Well, take it with a meal.
So if your biggest meal is evening, take it then.
If your bigger meal is at lunchtime, take it then.
What you don't wanna do is take it on an empty stomach,
then you're not gonna get the optimal bioavailability.
But 2,000 milligrams EPA plus DHA,
meaning look at your product label
and see what a serving provides
and it'll show you separately the EPA and the DHA
and add those up.
You're looking for 2,000 milligrams.
Some people think they don't really understand
how to read a fish oil label.
So they think that the amount that they're looking at
either on the front of the bottle
or on the supplement fact panel is in one soft gel,
for example, and it's generally not.
You generally are seeing a serving size of two soft gels.
So in most cases, that's how the manufacturers label them.
So you need to be clear that you're actually taking
the full dose that you're looking for.
But I say 2,000 milligrams because that's the amount
that gets us to an optimal blood level,
red blood cell level, the concentration
of the omega-3 in the membranes of those red blood cells.
And that's what we're looking for.
- All right, 2,000 milligrams EPA DHA
and we have either liquid or capsules
and we're taking them with a fat meal.
So one thing about supplements is people are like,
"Okay, listen, I'll try this supplement."
You know, I'd like to know what it does to me.
Okay, now I know what it does to me
and people want to know, what's the time frame?
So if I start using EPA DHA from fish oil,
what will I see and when?
- There are different time frames based
on the result that you're looking for.
So you're gonna notice probably a change in your mood
and your sense of calm in a week.
If you're taking it on a daily basis,
you're gonna notice a change within a week
but more so in a month, even more so in three months.
Generally speaking, if we're talking about measurable things
like blood levels of triglyceride
or those kinds of things, usually that's 12 to 16 weeks
to really get to the full measure
of what that dose is going to do for you.
If you're talking about the stiffness you wake up
and your hands are stiff in the morning.
So that can be, you know, as a result of aging
or it can be sort of wear and tear on the joints
or you may have a chronic inflammatory situation
going on that affects your joints.
That if you take a higher, I mentioned 2000 milligrams
but there if that was my issue,
I would go to 4000 milligrams combined EPA and DHA
and in that case, you'll probably notice a difference
within a matter of days.
That is something that the joints really know
when they're being nourished.
They really know when they're being fed well
and if you're taking that higher dose,
then I think that you're going to notice.
And it has been my experience with my friends
that have come to me with those kinds of issues
that they notice a difference right away
and say I wish I would have listened to you, you know, years ago.
- Right, right.
I'm gonna just mention, our guest is Jolie Root.
Jolie Root, the sea nutritionist for Carlson,
Carlson known for their fish oils.
I have a fellow who I'm studying Chi Gong with him
and he's a man in his early 60s.
And we were talking about nutrition
and I suggested he try the Carlson fish oil
and he said, well, he has a bad left hand
from punching, you know, the heavy bag.
He used to be a little bit of a boxing guy
when he was younger and so I suggested the Carlson fish oil.
And the following week when I went back to class,
he said, you know, it took about four or five days
and my hand is better.
He was so happy about it.
He said he's had it for years and he was just shocked.
I told him the fish oil would kick in pretty fast
but he was so pleased.
And here's a guy who really knew the subject of wellness
but he just loves the Carlson fish oil.
And again, long-term injury,
not cleared up but got way better in four or five days.
So that's a great story.
- Yeah, it is.
And it's always fun when the response happens
and then you've got a true believer on your hands.
You've got, you know, somebody that probably was
maybe a little resistant to all the stuff that we do
and, you know, really, are you sure that that works?
I read articles that say, you know, supplements
are a waste of time, a waste of money.
But when you get a response like that,
when you get a result like that,
I've had parents where their kids just had behavior issues
and, you know, we used to jokingly call it the spilcus.
They can't sit still, you know?
The kids have the spilcus.
So get those kids on the right amount of the right omega-3s
and also, by the way, protein at breakfast,
multivitamin, some magnesium.
And all of a sudden, it's a different kid.
And they come back to me and they say,
we will do this forever.
And by the way, we also sometimes have the spilcus
and I go, I know everybody needs to be on this, you know?
It's not just, it's not just your son.
So it's always fun when we get a good result like that.
- Oh, it's delightful, really, when people realize,
oh my goodness, the information on nutrition,
it actually works, nutrition actually works.
And also, I think get more attention now at class
because it's real happy with me
with the recommendation of the fish oil.
Jolly, how can listeners of his to health
purchase the Carlson fish oils?
- Well, they're pretty much everywhere.
If you shop in the natural food store channels,
but also online and directly from Carlson.
So Carlson has a website.
You can order them directly from Carlson.
It's CarlsonLabs.com.
So, but, you know, stores like Sprouts and Mother's Market
and Whole Foods and those kinds of stores carry Carlson also.
- Alrighty, and again, now when I use the fish oil,
I do prefer the liquid to the capsules.
And in your opinion, it's better to keep those
and refrigerator correct?
- Once it's been opened, it is with the liquid.
It's a good idea to keep it in the refrigerator
and use it within about a hundred days.
They're stabilized and no oxygen in that bottle
before that seal is broken.
There's a nitrogen flush that there's just no air in there.
And so they're not oxidizing at all.
Once you open it and start pouring doses,
then you're introducing some air into that bottle.
So now it starts a clock as far as the aging is concerned.
And we know from just testing in our own lab
that you can measure looking for oxidation products,
looking for that and nothing happens
as you're pouring out doses on a daily basis
until after 100 days.
So we say refrigerate once it's opened
and use it in a hundred days.
- That's fantastic.
And again, so you really kind of recommend to eat some fish
and you feel that, I guess the average chicken,
not so much an organic pasture-raised chicken,
but the average chicken is really pro-inflammatory
in your opinion?
- Yes.
- Okay, all right.
All right, I actually completely agree with you.
And really, so when we're eating nuts like almonds,
is it better to eat almond butter
or is it better to eat a few almonds?
I think it's better to eat the almonds themselves.
I think almond butter is delicious, don't get me wrong.
But the almonds are gonna also give you the fiber.
Almond butter is a processed food.
And what you're losing when you process it
is the magnesium that was naturally occurring in that nut.
So when we eat the nuts whole,
whether we're talking walnuts or almonds
or macadamia or whatever,
you're also getting fiber,
you're getting the protein from the nut
where in the nut better, not quite as much protein,
you're getting some fat,
but you're also getting this whole array of minerals
like selenium and magnesium
and those are really beneficial.
So an ounce of nuts a day,
when they added that to the Mediterranean diet,
when they either increased the olive oil
or they said an ounce of nuts
along with follow that diet carefully,
there was a much bigger result
in measurable markers of beneficial health.
- Wow, that's impressive.
I guess this jolly root,
jolly root the senior nutritionist for Carlson,
Carlson known for their fish oils,
and I'm always happy to say Carlson is a sponsor
of here's to health.
I'm very proud of that.
And Carlson was established in 1965
by Susan Carlson, registered pharmacist
and her father also registered pharmacist,
and they introduced full-spectrum vitamin E
to the marketplace.
D alpha to conferel,
plus the beta delta and gamma to conferels.
Now today, that seems very acquaint,
but really in 1965,
that was absolutely cutting edge technology.
And Susan Carlson and her dad,
being registered pharmacists,
assumed that the physicians and hospitals
would want this important substance,
full-spectrum vitamin E,
but they, for whatever reason, did not,
but the natural foods community did.
So Carlson Vitamins was founded in 1965
by Susan Carlson, registered pharmacist.
So if anyone tells you that all vitamins are the same,
go to Costco, get your vitamins there,
well, they are misinformed.
Some brands like Carlson have a remarkably great track record
of scientific and technological progress,
if that's the correct term,
and they are great, that's a great company.
So brand is very important,
and I'm a very big fan of Carlson,
and I happen to use the Carlson fish oil.
A Jolly Roots, our guest, Jolly, once again,
how can listeners of here's to health purchase
the Carlson fish oils,
and the other excellent Carlson products?
- You can go straight to Carlson.
It's CarlsonLabs.com,
and of course, the whole catalog is there.
There are other online, if you like to order online,
there's I, Urban, there is Vita Cost,
and there's Amazon, of course.
But also in your local natural food store,
there probably are Carlson products,
given the 60 year history,
and the company is very, we're a legacy brand,
so most stores do carry Carlson products,
but some of the things,
it's a whole catalog of products with Carlson,
from A to zinc, and omega-3s, and the vitamin D,
and so if you have trouble finding a Carlson product,
you can certainly go directly to CarlsonLabs.com
and get that product.
- Right, I completely agree.
I completely agree, and I'm a very big fan of Carlson,
and all the stores do carry Carlson
because to just quote Jolly, it is a legacy brand.
They've got a great track record.
They are a quality product.
They really work, their substances really work,
and fish oil, EPA, D-A-J, is just remarkably important.
It's my favorite thing to recommend, and to use.
I'm a big fan of Carlson Fish Oils.
This is Josh Lane, you're listening to "Hairs to Your Health,"
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Welcome to this edition of Hears to Your Health.
I'm your host, Josh Lane.
The illness Parkinson's, Parkinson's disease
seems to affect many people and seems to be a topic
of conversation more and more now in the popular press
and I guess really around the dinner table.
And luckily today we have Dr. Gupta.
Dr. Gupta is an MD, a board certified neurologist
and internationally recognized as a clinician
and an educator in the field of neuroscience
and movement disorders at New York Neurological Associates.
And she's going to discuss this new campaign
called More to Parkinson's Campaign.
Ryan Reynolds has been discussing it as it affected
his father.
And so Dr. Gupta, welcome to the show.
Thank you for having me.
It's a pleasure to be on.
Yeah, thank you very much.
And Parkinson's unfortunately is really kind of in the news.
I mean, there's a lot of discussion about Parkinson's.
And so what is it about the More to Parkinson's Campaign
that we will benefit us to hear?
Absolutely.
So you're exactly right.
Parkinson's is very much in the news.
The numbers are growing every day.
I think we all know someone with Parkinson's
and they know someone with Parkinson's.
And one of the biggest things about the More to Parkinson's
Campaign is to really identify and go deeper than just the kind
of motor symptoms that we kind of delineate with Parkinson's
disease, things that are more than just tremors
or stiffness of movement or slowness of movement
or shuffling gay.
It really is kind of unraveling this iceberg
and saying that there is more to Parkinson's, particularly
when it comes to two very important symptoms, which
are hallucinations and delusions, which
encompass what we call Parkinson's disease psychosis.
So myself as a movement disorder specialist
and a Parkinson's advocate, along with others,
really found that it's so important to be able to really
look beyond Parkinson's and more to Parkinson's
and be able to identify these symptoms.
Wow.
Our guest is Dr. Fulda Gupta.
Dr. Gupta is an MD, a board-certified neurologist,
and an internationally recognized clinician and educator
in the field of neuroscience and movement disorders.
Dr. Gupta, what do we think, what are the potential causes
or cause of Parkinson's disease?
Do we know that?
So the cause of Parkinson's is still not yet fully understood.
We think it might be kind of a two-hit theory.
Someone might be genetically predisposed
to developing Parkinson's and then something
in the environment comes into play.
But we still have a long ways to go.
I think to get a better understanding
of the exact etiology or cause.
One of the biggest things with the more
to Parkinson's campaign, though,
is to delve a little bit more into the symptoms of Parkinson's
that exist and go beyond just the patient who's slower
or stiffer or the person who is more shaky.
It's really taking into account
these symptoms of hallucinations and delusions.
Now, the cause or etiology of those
is a little bit better recognized to be things
that are intrinsic to Parkinson's, dopamine,
of a very intrinsic symptom called serotonin.
So there are some factors to those symptoms
that are both innate to Parkinson's
and then even some things that are kind of extrinsic
to cause these symptoms.
But the exact cause of the overall Parkinson's
is still not fully understood.
Our guest is Dr. Fiona Gupta, an MD, discussing Parkinson's.
So is it possible that some of the issues
that cause Parkinson's are as a result of pesticide exposure?
That is one of the theories, yes, in general.
There's different environmental factors.
None that have been really completely elucidated.
But yes, there have been certain things like
we're reliving, pesticides, herbicides, things like that.
I wish we had a better understanding.
And again, I'm not sure this is why the numbers are growing
because there are still more environmental factors.
But I think with anything related to Parkinson's,
it's very important to try to tackle as much as you can
and have our patients be very proactive early,
make sure that they are talking to us
about their symptoms and how they're feeling.
A big part of what we do also is caregiver education.
So while we may not have the exact cause of Parkinson's,
we do knew a lot more about the symptoms.
And I think one of the biggest things
in a campaign like Mordaparkin
since is bringing up a lot of these symptoms earlier on
so that we can do better for our patients.
And in the Mordaparkin's campaign,
is there a discussion of lifestyle?
Is it, do they work with physical therapists?
I mean, what is the approach that the,
let me use the word modern?
What's the approach that they're using today
that maybe they didn't use 10 years ago?
- Oh, absolutely.
So I'm a big, that's a great question.
And thank you so much.
I'm a very big proponent of what we call
multi-disciplinary care.
And what that means essentially
is a patient with Parkinson's in the middle
and everyone should be working around that patient
to provide the best level of care.
And that's their doctor, the neurologist.
They should be communicating with a primary care doctor,
other specialists, you know, psychiatry, cardiology, GGI.
I can't say enough about our wonderful physical
and occupational therapists, our speech and swallowing therapists,
our social workers.
So really the key is really evolving to say
that we need a team around our patients.
I always tell my patients you have to be your own advocate
by having other advocates around you is so important.
And so, you know, going back to the more to Parkinson's campaign,
to me this is part of our team.
And it really is encouraging patients
or, you know, loved ones and patients
that if they see their patients experiencing things
that are beyond just, again, the movement,
the things like, you know, seeing things that aren't there,
you know, hearing things that aren't there.
Feeling, you know, feeling to paranoia
or what we call delusions, bring these up
because again, we want to work with the team
to then be able to provide the best level of safe care
for all of our patients and also address things,
you know, like caregiver questions and so on.
So multidisciplinary care is so important
for any patient with Parkinson's.
- Our guest is Dr. Fiona Gupta.
Dr. Gupta is an MD working with patients,
individuals with Parkinson's.
Dr. Gupta, is there a blood sugar component to Parkinson's?
That is, are some of the patients or many of the patients,
are they diabetic?
- So there's no exact link between Parkinson's and diabetes.
However, I always tell my patients,
if you have Parkinson's, that's one of, you know,
your conditions, but if there are other things,
like blood pressure issues, diabetes, you know,
you want to take really good control of those things.
So there's no direct link between diabetes
and developing Parkinson's nor blood sugars,
but, you know, patients with Parkinson's,
we want them to live well with Parkinson's
and so if they do have existing, what we call comorbidities,
you know, it is important to best manage those conditions
and that's again, we're part of the team
is working with other specialists.
- Right, our guest, Dr. Fiona Gupta, MD,
and we're discussing problems with Parkinson's,
which affect a lot of Americans
and Dr. Gupta is part of the Immortal Parkinson's campaign.
And so Ryan Reynolds, the actor, I guess,
has he been influential now discussing it
as far as it's effect is dead?
- You know, I think anyone that's part of the campaign
has been very, very important.
We know that, you know, you know, in the past,
and this is, you know, I've been in practice now going on
about 18 years, and you know, when I first started in practice,
we were not talking about more to Parkinson's.
We were not talking about other symptoms,
particularly symptoms that can be scary,
like if patients are seeing things that aren't there.
If they're hearing things that are there,
if they're miss perceiving, you know, a ball of socks
on the floor as a rodent or a rock in the yard as a monster.
If they're believing things, you know,
that these kind of persecutories, illusions,
and things like that.
So absolutely, any advocate for Immortal Parkinson's,
including Ryan Reynolds, who's been a wonderful advocate.
And then just the whole campaign and the team,
I think are really, really important.
Because again, we need our patients to feel
that they're being heard.
We want them to bring up symptoms.
And we also even want clinicians
to ask the right questions, you know,
so that we can make the most out of our visits
with our patients.
So yes, he is a wonderful advocate,
as are so many others.
And I think we still have to do more.
- Yes, yes.
Our guest is Dr. Fiona Gupta MD,
and Dr. Gupta is discussing Parkinson's
and the Morta Parkinson's campaign.
So Dr. Gupta, are there any lifestyle things
that we can do to help ourselves?
Besides medication, which we'll also talk about,
is there anything lifestyle-wise, for example?
If people have Parkinson's,
should they be drinking soda, should they be drinking alcohol,
should they be eating protein?
I mean, is there anything that's kind of like,
please do this, this is basic.
We're not saying it's Cures Parkinson's,
but certainly it's a good idea.
- So that's a very, very important question.
And thank you for bringing that up.
So, you know, as you mentioned before,
we even think about medications for Parkinson's
or other therapies.
The lifestyle measures are the platform.
These have to be followed.
And these are things like exercise.
Exercise is crucial for a patient with Parkinson's.
It really is important for well-being,
and it may actually even, you know,
slow the progression of Parkinson's.
So exercise is absolutely crucial.
I tell all my patients, you know,
you can exercise even if it's like a chair-based program
or if it's stretching or if it's some cardio,
but I can't tell you how crucial exercises sleep.
We want our patients to be sleeping well.
We want them to be comfortable
and making sure they're getting a good quantity
and quality of sleep.
Hydration, very, very important in terms of, like,
good water intake, obviously, you know, sodas
and things like that, probably not so much,
but in general, we want them to sleep.
We want them exercising.
We want a good balanced diet, including good hydration.
And above all, we really want our patients
to manage stress and socialize.
Socializing is really, really important
in building a lot of mental connections
and, you know, very, very important for well-being.
So lifestyle measures are absolutely key all the way
from exercise to diet to socialization,
to stress reduction and sleeping well.
And I encourage any patient with Parkinson's out there
to really look deep inside themselves
and see, are they getting that amount of lifestyle aspects
that they want?
Here in New York City, you know, we have lots of programs.
We have, like, rock-study boxing programs
and we have dance for PD and I'm sure all over the country.
I know that holds true with a lot of my colleagues.
So if a patient has Parkinson's out there,
one of the best things they can do
is seek out some of these programs
that really makes a tremendous difference.
- Right, right.
Good information.
Our guest is Dr. Fiona Gupta, MD, Dr. Gupta is an MD
and working with the Morda Parkinson's approach right now.
Dr. Gupta, so are there any new medications
that seem promising?
- So there are a lot of potential options
for treatment of Parkinson's disease
and we have made a lot of progress.
I will say that one of the best things we can do
is make sure our patients and the clinicians
are informed of different treatment options.
And again, the best way to do that
is staying educated.
So definitely there are a plethora of therapies.
I like to think of this toolkit
that I have to treat my patients.
And in general, we want our patients to be as informed
and talk to their doctor or their caregivers
about the right level of treatment for each patient.
Every patient is very different
and so every regimen is going to be very different.
But is there a particular medication that you think,
do you just seems promising?
Is there anything kind of happening to pass
a couple of years that you really want to mention
and your new medication?
- There are again, a lot of potential treatment options
out there and related to different symptoms.
And in terms of exact measurements,
it's important to realize that again,
every patient is very different.
And so every patient has kind of that right tools
in their toolkit for them.
But again, I think in general, in the future,
my hope is that we'll have what we call precision medicine.
So the right types of therapies for each patient.
- Alrighty, our guest, Dr. Fiona Gupta MD,
Dr. Gupta is working in the Morda Parkinson's campaign.
So Dr. Gupta, I didn't realize that delusions or psychosis
was indeed a factor in Parkinson's.
Is that been newly discovered?
- So exactly, you're absolutely right in terms of not realizing
that and you'd be surprised how many patients
are not even aware.
How many care givers are not aware.
Even when I teach the students and so on,
I think we need to go beyond that curtain of a patient,
it's more than just being stiff or shaky or slow.
Hallucinations and delusions are a very real symptom.
And about 50% of patients with Parkinson's
will develop what we call Parkinson's,
hallucinations and delusions.
So absolutely, it is a symptom
and it's not a rare symptom to me there.
And this is why campaigns like Morda Parkinson's
are so crucial with a raising awareness
and making sure that we're adequately bringing up these symptoms
because again, we don't want our patients living
with fear or anxiety, especially if they are experiencing
the symptoms, we don't want our care givers
to feel overwhelmed.
So the key here, especially with Morda Parkinson's,
is yes, let's hone on the hallucinations,
let's hone in on the delusions about half of patients
will have them, let's bring it up
and let's have that conversation together.
- Right, if I can ask this,
so when many women have Parkinson's
and they're no longer as agile as they once were,
they certainly find that depressing, don't they?
Wouldn't every person think, oh my God,
I'm a shell of myself, that's depressing in itself, isn't it?
I mean, isn't that legitimate concern?
- You know, absolutely.
And I think when you are facing any chronic disease day,
it absolutely is.
However, in Parkinson's disease, we want to be proactive,
we want to really, really say, you know what,
you have Parkinson's, but let's go out there,
let's live well with Parkinson's.
So I'm a big believer in providing our patients
all the resources that they can to really tackle
and take it on and work on the lifestyle measures
that we mentioned and really partner up
with a good team around you because yes,
you can definitely look at it as you're up against a wall
and you're facing a chronic disease day.
However, on the flip side,
this is something we really can empower our patients
to live well with.
And so that's really, I think, where things are trending
and I'm a big believer in really just empowerment
and staying positive for our patients.
- Well, that sounds very good.
Our guest, Dr. Fiona Gupta, and the Dr. Gupta,
how can listens of his true health contact you
to find out more about the more to Parkinson's campaign?
So yeah, the more to Parkinson's campaign is out there.
It's definitely on social media.
There are definitely, you can go on and line and look it up.
And you know, that they're a huge advocate
in terms of patient care.
So again, more to Parkinson's is the campaign.
- Well, thank you very much.
An important topic.
Our guest has been Dr. Fiona Gupta MD
and Dr. Gupta is a board certified neurologist
and an internationally recognized clinician and educator
in the field of neuroscience and movement disorders
at the New York Neurology Associates.
And also, she, Dr. Gupta is the director
of the Division of Movement Disorders.
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I'm your host, Josh Lane.
Those of you who listen to this show regularly
know how much I like to discuss nutrition and wellness
and exercise in the environment as far as keeping us
healthy.
These are all topics that many of us are now really
recognized the importance of these topics.
It's also interesting how complex and remarkable
the human body is.
There's always new ideas coming to us.
Sometimes the ideas are kind of maybe even a little shocking.
I read an article just the other day on Joseph McColle's website.
I'm a big fan of Joseph McColle.
He has some great articles on his site.
He's been doing it for 15 to 20 years as a great track record.
I'm a big fan again, a Joseph McColle.
The article actually talks about when we get organ transplants,
when organs are transplanted, memories, personalities, preferences,
and skills, including, guess this,
including what happened at the donor's moment of death
have been repeatedly observed to transfer
from the donor to the recipient in a manner
that strongly suggests a real transference is occurring.
Raising questions, significant questions
as to where our consciousness or memories come from
and who we actually are.
This is actually kind of very new discussion.
Dr. Paul Purcell has some groundbreaking research
documenting 73 heart transplant cases,
where the recipients experience dramatic personality changes,
changes in food preference, sexual orientation shifts,
and even acquired new skills that perfectly matched
their unknown donors.
Approximately 10% of heart transplant recipients
report experiencing emotions that they believe
came from their donor.
And the most extraordinary cases, one case in particular,
includes an eight-year-old girl who received a murdered child's heart
and provided police with accurate details
that led to the killer's conviction
and recipients who suddenly developed artistic abilities
that matched their donor's talents.
When organ transplants first became possible,
doctors celebrated it as a remarkable medical achievement.
And it certainly is.
What no one anticipated was that along with functional organs,
something really formal and mysterious might also transfer
and that is aspects of the donor's consciousness personality,
memories, and even skills.
The evidence for this phenomena has been accumulating
for decades.
Mainstream medicine has not been reporting on it because it challenges,
possibly because it challenges fundamental assumptions
about where consciousness comes from.
If memories and personality traits can be stored in organs
rather than just the brain, this would completely revolutionize
our understanding of human consciousness.
So again, this is all new information,
but I thought it was so interesting.
I really wanted to mention the listeners of Here's to Your Health.
There is a physician, Dr. Benjamin Bunzel,
at the University Hospital in Vienna in Austria.
He studied 47 heart transplant patients
and found that while 79% claimed that personality hadn't changed,
although possibly signs showed otherwise,
6% reported distinct personality changes
they attributed directly to their new hearts.
These individuals felt compelled to accommodate
what they sensed as their donor's memories.
When studied more extensively, approximately 10%
of heart transplant recipients reported experiencing
emotions they believed came from their donor.
The most comprehensive study was done
by neuropsychologist Dr. Porpersell, who underwent bone marrow
transplantation for himself.
And in the heart's code, his book, he interviewed 73
heart transplant recipients, 67 other organ recipients
and families of 18 deceased donors.
And Dr. Porpersell said, "When I listen to the tapes
of my interviews with heart and lung transplant recipients
and the donor families, I am still taken aback
by what they've shared with me."
He identified consistent patterns, traumatic memory
transfer, recipients repeatedly recalled their donor's death
through dreams or physical sensations despite knowing
nothing about the donor.
Preference changes, dramatic shifts in food and music
tastes, matching the donor, vegetarians
becoming carnivores and vice versa.
That almost sounds like a joke, but this is not a joke.
Sexual orientation changes, including a lifelong lesbian
becoming attracted to men and marrying one.
And also a note, Dr. Porpersell, one of his colleagues
has a male patient who received a female heart.
Then became compelled to transition to becoming a woman,
something never considered before the transplant.
Now again, some of this might to you sound like a joke
or just ridiculous.
And I am mentioning it because it's just new discussion.
And what it really shows to me is how complex the human body
is, how remarkably well designed we are,
and how the study of health care is constantly growing
and evolving.
Dr. Porpersell also documented several cases so
remarkable, they seemed really just maybe impossible.
And here's one.
This is probably the most remarkable.
An eight-year-old girl who received a murdered 10-year-old's
heart began having nightmares about the killer.
Using the child's descriptions, police found and convicted
the murderer based on completely accurate details
about timing, weapon, location, and the victim's final words.
How about this?
His one, a physician whose husband, David, died in a car crash,
later met the transplant recipient.
She whispered to him, "I love you, David.
Everything is copacetic."
The recipient's mother revealed, "My son uses that word
copacetic all the time now.
He never used it before.
He got his new heart."
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OK, here's one.
This is about music.
A 47-year-old foundry worker received a 17-year-old African
American student's heart and developed a fascination
with classical music.
Initially, he dismissed any connection,
but he later learned the donor, the African American
student, had died clutching his violin case on a way
to violin lessons.
How about this one?
Here's one.
This is a food one.
One recipient experienced multiple changes.
Feeling the donor's fatal call accident in her chest,
becoming a vegetarian after being McDonald's quote,
biggest money maker, and changing from gay to straight.
After my transplant, I am not.
I have absolutely no desire to be with the woman.
I think I got a gender transplant.
In rare cases, heart transplant recipients
are able to meet their donors due to a phenomenon known
as domino transplants, where a patient with failing
lungs receives both a heart and lungs simultaneously,
and then donates their heart to someone else.
When Dr. Persol interviewed a heart transplant recipient,
was manning Fred, and his donor Jim, both of their wives
noted the husband had taken on personality traits
of their heart donor.
For example, the depression and romanticism
of Jim's now deceased donor, and that Fred mistook
his wife for Jim's wife.
That almost sounds like a joke, but this is not a joke.
It just goes to show how remarkably complicated
the human body is and how careful we must be with ourselves.
And I did want to, I would like to thank Dr. McColar
for this article on potential personality changes,
or we pick up the personality of the donor.
The person who gave us the heart or the lungs.
And I thought this was an interesting topic,
and I really would like to.
Thank you for listening.
Again, this is Josh Lane.
This is Here's to Your Health.
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