EP: 465 The Blue Lady: The Painting That Would Not Burn with Rick Hansen *members only trailer

And as soon as he put his hand on the brush and put the brush in the paint and the paint on the easel, he said something enveloped him and moved his hands and painted something that he knew was not him. Well, like he painted for two, three, four hours and he said it was the most beautiful thing that he said he'd ever done. And he knew it wasn't from him. And when he got done, there was this image, this painting of the blue lady. And he knew at that moment that was his guiding demon and he had to bow down to it and kiss it. Wow. And from that point, that's when his experience kind of a hockey stick where stuff started to really get wild and weird. What's it like being a kid and your dad gets the calling to become an exorcist and people start showing up from all over the place. People that the church can't fix or help. Rick Hansen shows up to tell his family legacy story. His dad was a Christian, became a full-blown Satanist, worship Satan, then became a Christian exorcist. He cast 12 demons out of himself. And we know, as Christians, radical conversions are a big part of how God uses people and the things they go through reclaims them. And this is one of those stories. We'll find out who the blue lady is. Why this empty shows up and demands worship and ownership when his dad is worshiping Satan. And how this all lines up in the blurry verse in the unseen realm. It's right. It sounds like a creepy 80s movie. This one happened. It's a real true story. If you want to become a member of bluercreatures.com/members become a member of the podcast. Support this. Help us get these stories out there. Help us keep all the people who help blurry going. You get discounts on tickets, communities, early episodes, ad free episodes, bluercreatures.com/members. Join up. The history of our earth is so different from what we can imagine. Enjoy the journey. The Smithsonian, and if they found out about large skeleton somewhere, was to go get it. I'm going to assume at least one person is right because if one person's right, it busts the paradigm. It all goes back to the phone chair. And the problem with the modern-day church, they had a very truncated view of the supernatural. This backdrop is just pregnant with all kinds of meaning associated with this mount hermit of the end. What? And this guy defects from the kingdom. That's a big deal. All right, welcome back to Blurry Creatures, Luke. We got another wild story today. Over the years, people have seen to have blurry lives and they grow up in a household that kind of learned the blurry versus early. So we have Rick Hansen on the show. Thank you for coming on Blurry Creatures. Thanks for willing to share your story, kind of get into it and it starts at a young age. So we'll kick it off with the normal question and we'll let you kind of go into your just your memoirs of growing up and dealing with your dad and all the things that came with it. So we thought some big foot and then getting the question, right? My dad used to always think it was real as a kid. He'd talk about it all the time probably because of the stories I'm going to tell you, but he always thought there was something there. And so that story always, always fascinating as a kid. So he was, when I asked by you guys to come on, I'm like, oh, that's a cool premise. So we took back to my youth, man. I love it. Well, I mean, you've got a fascinating story. I mean, you talk the synopsis of it and I want to dig into it is that you were raised by a man who was Christian, then became a Satanist and then an exorcist cast 12 demons out of himself, ran a family deliverance out of out of your living room. And you encountered dark angels, demons, spiritual warfare, all kinds of crazy stuff wrote a book about it called the Blue Lady. But tell us the story because I think this is like, this is fascinating. Not everybody grows up with this is there as their, their natural normal life is to have your dad doing exorcisms in the living room. But I mean, how does this all start for you and your earliest memories and how does your dad become a Satanist after being a Christian and then sort of jump into the shark again? Yeah, yeah. So the funny thing is I grew up in Southern California like we talked in a pretty normal home, you know, going to Disneyland every now and then, family dinners, I played soccer, skated, obviously, so Cal served school, you know, family birthdays, neighborhood birthdays, kids, all that kind of stuff was normal except when I came home from school, they would often be some tormented person in our home, our living room, typical that my dad was trying to help and free. It happened, you know, probably three to five times a week. So I had this normal life on the side, but then I'd come home and my dad was a school teacher too. Loved as a school teacher taught to art and photography. So I always thought, you know, he was super cool just for that alone. Kids loved him, and he loved the kids. So we had this normal life. We had my mom and dad who were both educators. My sister and I both went to school, did the normal stuff, but then we'd come home and this other dimension would be existing in our house. It was kind of the through line, not kind of it was the through line of my whole young life and adulthood life. And so I'd come home and see or hear bizarre things that were terrifying, weird, strange, but like I told you guys in you know, I mean they asked very normal, very normal for a house, very second nature to the point where that became more real than any other aspect of life. What's like your first memory coming home? Like what's the first thing that you kind of knew that like life here is a little little different than my friends has. Yeah, sometimes I'd be coming home from school on my bike and I'll back up a bit. He was doing so many exercises and so often in our living room and our house that his like eventually said we need to get this out of the living room and be able to Dan in the back of the house. So for years and years is a living room. But then but like the Dan on the side of the house where he do a lot of them might be driving up from school on my bike or walk at home. And then when it would be open because it was hot and I hear this screaming and yelling and sometimes cursing and sounds like a dog barking or growling knowing that something was going on. I mean I knew what it was but I'd come home to that all the time. And like at first like I said it was my earliest memory I think is just in my head all I ever see is either people coming to the front door. And I always saw it in the eyes. You could always see it in the eyes. They were dark. They were heavy. They were troubled. And then when they would leave their eyes would be completely different relaxed and free and and like released from something. So it was the images. It was the noises that it wasn't one in particular. I've got a couple stories I can share. But it wasn't just one. It was that was so second nature to come home to to see or to hear that it just became normal. Rick can you can you talk to us about you know how your dad arrived there because that part is a part of the crazy part of the story. I mean he goes Christian Satanist then exorcist. I mean what how did that happen? What like what yeah how do you do that? Yeah yeah. Slowly is the deal. And I think that's the thing I want to hit on this is that you know what what I saw growing up the exorcisms hundreds and hundreds of them was the culmination of a long silent war within someone's heart and mind and soul. Same thing for my dad. He was he was born and raised in Minnesota, Midwest boy big family. Went to church, Baptist church of course most you know good Midwesterners go to Baptist or Lutheran churches. His parents very involved in in the church, Sunday school teachers, elders etc. He became a Christian at a young age a sincere conversion. He remembers it describes it vividly. Felt the peace of the change in his heart from God and loved it and was very spiritually curious all the time. That led him to you know dabble into later engineer high the Ouija board and you know like tarot cards from his friends every now and then and that obviously started to peak more interest in what else is out there in the supernatural and later in life after college he got involved in actually from his university. A lot of the professors will start to feed him things you know certain types of books on religion and good and evil and and you know almost trying to rattle his cage because they knew that he was a believer they wanted to draw out of him something else. So obviously all along this his practices drew a lot of curiosity to the point where after he was married he had gotten so far down the road of exploring what else is out there good versus evil and everything he read everything he studied there was a good and there was an evil but then he started to look at man and the hypocrisy of man and with three big church splits and started to go and if this if this is God meaning man's behavior represented God if this is God this is this isn't something I want to be part of. So you know the skepticism and the sarcasm drew him deeper and deeper into that and like I said he was a teacher and a lot of his students all the enough were third and fourth generation which is or from, you know, like your parents were through. and forth generation witches and so there was a spirit in them and they would feed him all kinds of books and stuff on the occult that he thought, "Wow, this is fascinating, this is really amazing." Fast forward, he delved so much into exploring that that he got really disenfranchised to the point of anger and disgusted God and he was at home in SoCal and one night he heard a voice say, "Go and I want you to turn on the television," and he kind of looked around thinking, "What was that?" and he turned on the television and they were doing documentaries on Hollywood drugs, porn, occult, etc. That night he was about satanism in Hollywood and right as he turned on the TV, he was a, I don't know if you've heard of Anton Lave, he used to be the head of the Satan Church, he had a San Francisco and he was right in the middle of them filming him do an actual service and he was fascinated by Anton Lave's faith and he saw that in his pastors and people like Billy Graham and he was shocked to see this man of darkness so enthralled with that and he started to mock it and go, "Man, this is a joke, this isn't real but he kept watching, he kept watching, he became fascinated and what's oddly weird is that, like you said, in the documentary, they never pulled the camera back from the service so it was just raw, it was raw footage and that night because he was so enthralled and it had, it had crescendoed so far up with his cynicism and his own research that he said, "Okay, if this is real, God, I want you out of my life and Satan, I want you in my life." And he said, "Out loud, God, get out of my life, Satan, I want you in." And he said at that moment the amount of hatred that he felt towards Jesus and God enveloped him at that moment like he was something he had never ever experienced before or seen. And it sent chills up and down his body but because it was something that he felt, he was excited about that and so that started the journey and he worshiped Satan for roughly two years after that. He got extremely deep into it but I'll pause there for questions. [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music]