Ep. 42 - From Wild Bar Tabs to a Homegrown Podcast Studio

(upbeat music) All right, we started. We're ready. Oh my gosh, we're so old-pros at this. We can now switch sides, we can hand the dust. - I like it. I don't know. - I like it. So this is for the camera. I like that side better, but I know, but I'm hoping this is my good side to me. - So I never add in one thing I didn't tell you to add in because I hope to get there quick. Big moment in my life, I'm Monday. Got a call. Call I never expected in my life. Somebody asked me for a letter of reference because they're seeking a presidential pardon. I am not making this up. And it's a guy you weren't for. For sure, I don't want to give away anything about the guy because he texted me and he's like, "Hey, Michael, I want to talk to you about something "on a real estate." And I'm like, "Okay." And he goes, "Hey, calls me." - Do you know anything about that? - How much do you know, but I know nothing. - And I know about that. - I know about that. - I know about that. - No, I don't know. I know what you think about it. I know nothing about it. Worse than that. And nothing. Why? And it's like, well, I was in prison for a little bit. Family. - Okay. - Yeah. - The second chances. - Yeah. - Everybody deserves none. This is America. - And I didn't know where he was going with this. And he was like, I was told this is a good time because it was tax-related. And I'm trying to, like when I'm totally caught of cards, I'm trying to make some profit. Like, "Hey, I know a guy who had to do 10 months in federal because he paid his kids "hawking tuition through his business." And you know, trying to get his wealth a little bit more than that. I guess it was like some $8 million tax return scheme that I was saying. - Man. - And it's like Google, of course. It was like $8 million in like a year. Like it wasn't. That's not allowing it to. But I said, you're really sure that like a one-term, he was like, he was like, he was like, I need a element. I was told I got, yeah, you need like a reverend of this and an elected official for my Pesico. Do you really think a one-term, one-or-beachwood city council member who couldn't get reelected is really good? - It's influential. - I mean, it would work for me if I got that letter. - Yeah. And, you know, I thought about it. And I said, listen, I will write a letter. Only a book my experience dealing with you in the last two years, you know, you paid your, you paid your, you know, it was like 50 months. So you paid his debt to society. - What did I tell you? - Yeah. But as I have just not gonna speak to anything I don't know about you, just, right. You know, when I do about you're good. - Does he live in Pesico? - Yeah. - Oh, I shouldn't, maybe I shouldn't have answered. I don't know. - Yeah, and the negative that's, you know, because he thought I knew more about him and I did it. And, - Wow. - But honestly, like, yeah, feather in your cap. - I feel like a big deal. - I'm gonna have a presidential pardon for a better recommendation. I guess I can. - Yeah, I mean, my, I think that might hurt. - DJT might actually, in Marfet. - So yeah, that's a big deal. Okay, now move on to the next thing. For you know, those of you listening February 17th is the council meeting where there's gonna be a public hearing about sheets. I know a lot of people have quite a bit of opinions about that. You should go, you should speak your voice. And that's the meeting. - Should be in a time. - Yeah, good time. - Hopefully they, in the meet so that she's give a presentation on the real quick. And I couldn't believe when their, I don't know if it was attorney or whatever. It wasn't attorney. The day and call is attorney. The representative characterized it as a luxury convenience store. - I mean, - Like I said, like sheets as a sheet, I'm not sure on or anything, but it's not a luxury anything. - Hold on, I have to, I have to interrupt to say, it's the goaicess in Ashland that was the, like basically the original sheets, right? So this was the place off of whatever that is that anybody driving between Cleveland and Columbus would stop because it had the amazing bathrooms and had all that. Convenience says, and now that's like second nature was sheets. - Yeah. - I don't know who else but, yeah, well, it's a little bit far too long. - But I was a luxury. - Yeah, it's nobody left. - She's joking, right? You're like, no. And then another bit of news and this is, I'm sure I was probably one of maybe two people who watched the committee meeting, the committee meeting before Monday's meeting. They are considering putting the traffic camera, the automated traffic camera, speeding cameras. And I literally, the day that this came out earlier in the day, I got a $222 ticket from the city of Newburgh Heights for going 36 in a 25 on Harvard in Newburgh Heights. - Cool. - First of all, I'm seeing a lot of that much, wasn't it? - It's a fucking money grab. - Yes, it is. - Harvard and Shrink. - And Shrink, I'm sure I was going 36 because there's no place on Harvard that you'd drive that you wouldn't think is 35. - Right. And Shrink, and I think there was a new mayor of Newburgh Heights. But Shrink, you got back in. - Oh, he didn't. - Shrink, you used to do the circuit and tell other mayor, say, you wanna not make money through your city? - So they weren't even shy about it. Well, they were like, by the way, this cost us nothing. They said, this company comes in and they put all these cameras in and they take money off each ticket, yada, yada, yada. And then they try to say, but let's just be clear. This is not a money grab. This is for safety. Okay, bullshit. Like, there are like one, like I know one or two instances where the traffic can might be for safety. Like I may feel when you pass Hillcrest, yeah. That's huge hill. It's only like 35. And you can easily be cranking up 62. - Yeah. - Downhill. - Yes. - There is no main road in these and no main roads. - Well, no, I am going to insist that one go on Halberton. I know the company won't make enough money on that, they can't put it there. - I mean, have you seen how people drive on our street? - Yeah, I'm just saying, like, people, - But if you really want to make it about safety, put it on the streets and meet it. - Yeah, but like, none of our main streets, yes, you will have some people flying by everyone so often, general, though, in general, that we don't have a crazy speeding issue on any of these main streets. You know, they're gonna say, oh, it's a bullshit. It's not about seeking. By the way, don't let's about say, do you stick a fucking cop over there? - Don't work when the sheets open. We're in either cops. We're in either cops and other places. Maybe that's far of this. I don't know. But like, I just, when they say, oh, safety, safety, this, it's like, okay, the last three budget years, you sat there and said, we need more firemen because of firemen calls, but we got, can't put in the budget unless we get this grant. You know, so safety isn't that important, or at least it's not as important as giving the mayor a $50,000 car over three years, 'cause that turns out to be more important in safety, 'cause you're choosing that over this admitting that for the last three years, we need to hire more firemen. But we can't until, you know, we get more money. So, like, just stop it with the safety shit. This is a money grab. And I, I at least understand it with new work rights. They don't have any money. - Right, then I have that. - I think it's bullshit, but, you know, I'm angry as hell, but at least you're like, this is what they gotta do. - But also, they should probably be a city. - They shouldn't be a city. - Yeah. - We have 52 million dollars to my last year. Twice as much as any other city or size. So, like anything, they just kind of like, oh, we're just talking about this and we wanna hear your input and listen to that. But my guess is, you know. - Get right into it. - No, actually the fact, wait, wait, the fact that I said I'm against it means they're gonna do it. So, let me just rephrase that. I think this is a great idea. I think we should have one on every street. And now that they hear Mike Burkhan's is for it. Now there's actually a chance they might back up. - One can help, one can help. - And just remember, when you get one of those tickets, because listen to our all-balling team, all of us every once in a while are gonna be going 10 miles over the limit where those cameras are, 'cause you forget about it. And you're gonna get a $200 ticket in, in, but here's the thing is, remember the people who voted for this. - Right. - And if you, you know, if you don't analyze these people when they do something that you don't want them to do, and stop bitching about them doing stuff you don't want them to do. - Yes. - On that note, let's go to the next topic that, probably take a look at the rest of this podcast. - Yeah, it probably will. - So, you might notice I am wearing my pink today. - I can't find the people listening and not watching do not notice. - Well, yeah. So I'm wearing pink in green today. And you were wearing your green. - Well, that was, yeah. - Youth football, yes. - You're good. - You liked showing off those felt jobs. - The nine muscles, yeah. - So, last week on, you know, Paul Chase, the principal diceful has been promoted, starting July 1 to a position at Central Office. He will be the new court killing director replacing Linda Ligoba, who was retiring after many years of service. And Linda's been an amazing advocate for our kids. And I don't think there's a better advocate than Paul Chase. So I think it's a huge promotion. - Yeah, I saw Paul Saturday. And I was like, "Paul, I'm really upset about your promotion." - Yeah. - And I got to, and I know Paul pretty well, and we don't talk about anything school or do we talk about hockey. He went to Ignatius. I think he's five years younger than me. - He's so close. - Yeah, and he coaches the show and team. And so, even though we talk a lot, we don't talk about anything. - Yeah. - 'Cause I don't want to be uncomfortable. - No, right. And also, - I feel like that I also saw next year my kids gonna be in the high school. He's gonna be the principal. And I probably get a call ever once I'll be like, "Hey, absolutely." - You know, well, one people I'll call. - I know, I know. - So, we have, you know, we have an open, open seat. - But nobody thought it was open. - Nobody thought it was open. - Everybody thought it was open. - I don't think I really, I think she knows who I am. I know who she is. Oh, I know, is everybody who's interacted with her speaks wonderfully. - Yeah. - And people I respect speak on the fan side. I don't think anybody really thought there was really an open position. But it turns out we were wrong. - But turns out we were wrong. So last Friday night, a email went out to families, saying, please mark your calendars on Wednesday. We have two or three finalist candidates to present for the principal's position. And on-- - And by the way, people like me got the go-on knock-oaks, we don't know about that. - Right, because Aubrey's gonna get it. Because-- - Yeah, and Aubrey for those of you who don't know is the assistant principal. - Assistant principal, five years running. - People over at the school, the teachers, the kids love her, the teachers love her, building staff loves her. Parents who have not yet gone had kids in the high school love her, because the woman is present all over. She clearly works incredibly well with the kids. Watching her in Paul, like, you know, through my work on the foundation, I had the opportunity to work with both of them. I'm end of the Julie and together. They were a great team, but I also really, I really liked all reasons. I, on scholarship were formed, and what we could do to make things different. So, yeah, I like you, assumed I don't need to go to this meeting because I mean, I was a former cheerleader, but I don't need to cheer for Aubrey. She's gonna get the job. - Yeah. - So Wednesday, maybe, maybe four hours before the meeting. We got an updated email from the district, and it's got three candidates and three resumes, and Aubrey isn't one of them. And when I say shit started flying fast, I have never seen, like, I was hearing from parents in the district, I was hearing from parents outside of the district, I was hearing from a lot of people who were like, what happened? How is Aubrey not a candidate for this? And on Thursday, and Aubrey went, I just wanna say this about Aubrey, and what an amazing woman she is. Aubrey went to the interview this evening, and she had known, I guess, for quite a few days that she was not a candidate. She went that evening, and she hung out in the, in the kids' room where, so they had the students and parents and I don't know, oh, and stuff. And then the people rotated. And Aubrey hung out in the students during the entire time, and for each one that presented said, I just wanna tell you, I am looking forward to working with you as a system principal, and good luck to you, and this is a great place you will love working in between. So truly a professional, right? And I don't, I mean, I. So the first I've earned of this was 'cause, I didn't, I didn't get to enter any of it, because I just, and I have my opinions, and I might be, you might disagree with me. I think what we do is wrong with, like having these, when we have an opening with our principal at football coach, that you've trotted out the candidate, so let me explain why it's wrong, or why I believe it's wrong. Yeah, I think if you're somebody going, oh, you know, I'm interested in that job, but I know that, you know, I know I'm probably not gonna get it, but the last thing I want is not to get it, and everybody where, you know, that I work with is going to find out that I'm looking to leave. Now, you should have the right, if you're on a job to be able to look around for jobs, and if you don't get it, the whole world not know. And, you know, I just always, yeah, I've always felt like, one, I don't believe I really listen to our ends. Like if there's any evidence of that, it's this, and it's just to set, it's just a bullshit exercise to make, to try to make the argument that they're trades parent. And, you know, even if I did believe them, I don't think in this instance, the transparency outweighs when transparency is bad here for the people who don't get the job. Right. You know, I don't think those people, it should be known that, I mean, if you're the assistant principal at a high school, I wouldn't want them to look around. I mean, they might, I mean, Look, I do, and I said this, you know, I think education is a little different because the, the, the, the, the track is, you know, the number of days is what it is. And, and principals need to be in place and teachers need to be in place. So, you know, there is, there is a little bit more flexibility. Yeah. And I don't think anybody would be upset to learn that that person is moving around, but it's also better that I hear everyone to think, this is my only focus. Sure. And so I just never understood why we do this. I think it's, I think it, it hurts us from maybe having some candidates who would be interested to go. Maybe. Yeah, I don't know if that, you know. Yeah, I don't want this to be public. I don't want to be public that I might be looking. Right. And so, but then again, I know there's an argument on the other side, but I just, you know, I just, I just don't, I don't think it's about transparency. Because it's about we want the input. I think it's an exercise to make it look like they do that. It was a transparent. And I think it has detriment to it. Fans are sure you'll say, oh, that's not true. But, um, well, they have to listen to, to know that, yeah, right. Something may tell them. Yeah. So, um, the teachers and it wasn't just the teacher, the union, the teacher's union. It was all three bargaining units. So, um, suffigaries, um, assistants, bus drivers, more than, I'm gonna say, two thirds of the staff signed on to a letter. That was, when was that sent? That was sent. Thursday. So, yeah, so they can, per pretty much, they found out four hours before the meeting that, that Aubrey wasn't, wasn't even one of the candidates. Yeah. And the next day they got a letter with all these, and then that say they had a letter with all these people signing. The Bob and, and uh, Bob and the school board saying, you know, what the fuck? Like, she's our candidate. She is our choice. Like, we have no idea how you get from, like, why did you not ask us? How did you not, you know, how did you not know that this was up? Like, that this person was the staff, right? Was, right. You, if you really wanted to be transferred, who was on the interviews? I'd like to know the participants in the interviews. I'd like to know how many candidates there were. I, if you really want to talk about a transparent process, I want to know what the vetting process was like, that left us with the three candidates that were finalists. And I am not gonna, I am, I am not gonna sparge them. I am not gonna list their names, but if you're listening to this and wondering what the big deal is, I would encourage you to go online to the school district and look at their resumes. If it matters. The woman who's chosen, she sounds like she's a very talented step. So, hold on, 'cause we, let's not jump the gun on this one. Okay. So, an executive session gets scheduled. And my understanding is that the board who also learned that I already wasn't a candidate when the rest of us did. But isn't this the board's decision? Why are they not involved in? - Bob has administrative rights to name the principal. - Okay, so first of all, Bob's rights or whatever the board tells them his rights are. - I mean, I don't have a great-- - No, no, it's not, it's not an agreement or a disagree. The board gets to determine what their, what Bob's roles are, what Bob's roles aren't. And if they are going to say, oh Bob, you just come to us and tell us who you want as the high school principal. Well, then I think the school board's doing it wrong. You know that you're not gonna, that you're not gonna consult with us, especially in incidents like this, where you were passing over an internal candidate who's been there for five years and is loved by everybody. And you're gonna say, well, that's Bob roles until this, well, that's your choice to make its Bob roles. You have the ability, the power to determine how this goes. - Yes. - And you seem like you don't wanna do that. - Yes. - But. - So, so today there was an executive session and I was assuming we would not know anything coming out of that executive session. And actually we don't know anything from what was, what was, we don't know what the teachers said, the teachers who were in the room, what they said. We just know that there was an executive session. - But my guess is that parallels the letter they wrote. - Yes, I would not imagine that it veered from that. - Yeah. - And so a lot of the teachers actually all four buildings today were pink and green and on our recovery. They were the failures of her sorority. So I literally found the only pink and only green thing I own. And probably wore them today even though I was not at any of the buildings. And so, you know, you and I are sitting here tonight on a Friday night and we get an email from the superintendent saying that he is recommending one of the candidates from Tuesday or Wednesday evening to be voted on by the full board. And of the three candidates that were first-painted, I do believe that this is the best option of what was presented. But if you look at this candidate who's coming out of Cleveland Heights, Roxborough Middle School, and you compare her to Aubrey. She's never worked at a high school. She does not have five years of experience as an assistant principal. And frankly, I think, most people would agree when you're the internal candidate, you have a leg up on your competition because you know where the fucking bathroom is. Like, it is so hard to train an employee. It is much easier to keep the ones you have and make sure that they feel respected and loved for the works that they do. And I don't know what the argument is. I mean, never gonna know what the argument is because they're gonna hide behind HIPAA and rules and can't share this and can't share that. - Oh, did she? your argument is Aubrey wasn't prepared? That's your fucking fault. Yes. Yes. One. Oh, she, she was the assistant principal for five years. She was good enough to be assistant principal for five years. If you're telling me that you guys didn't do a good enough job to make her into the team ready for a principal, then why is there no probability there? Right. But I just want to cut on you. Cut you off for one second with this whole week. All the anytime that they don't have a good way to explain something that we can't talk about personnel matter. I just want to say bullshit because when they fire coach Creole, they talked about that. No, no, no, a letter, a public statement basically saying, this guy put our athletes at risk. CJ. That's when C2 and they, you know, all you, you know, they made this big public statement. So don't tell me that you don't, you know, talk about personnel issues. The only time you don't talk about personnel issues is when you don't have anything to say that you think and defend your actions. Then you fall back on that. But when you want to shun on somebody, you, you have not hasn't been not just to say a public statement. Usually it's a full of a written letter that goes out to the media. Right. So, you know, so so without it. I, you know, you, you have, you have a kid going into the life school next year. You know, your daughter and my son will be following shortly after. I, I hope that I'll read, um, says I hope that she continues to bring her power and her fluorescence to the physician. And I, and I really do hope that this, this woman who is coming in as principal has, you know, success. But I can't help but feel that there are going to be plenty of parents, plenty of students, plenty of community members who question why she was chosen over Aubrey. And that's, you know, I mean, that's almost unfair to her. Yeah. Well, I mean, all I guess is since I'm a kid's in the school, it seems like the principals in these buildings have been musical chairs and a lot of them. Yes. And it's like, okay, I believe this is the ninth administrator. I mean, like we hired a principal in Verizon and then got rid of that one, they got rid of the net. Like was the pregnant built up where, um, Dr. Reed and the dad, who's one before a wonderful woman. Uh, Ali. Yeah. Just Ali. Um, Ali. Yeah. Yeah. Well, she's a long day. Okay. She missed his kid and never didn't everybody. All the kids just call her Miss Kay. Yeah. I mean, Jack, Jack had a unfortunately way too many. She was so nice. I checked in my in getting in trouble because she was so sweet. Which I actually think was, I said, no, you need to be a little bit more mean to jettles. Maybe you won't get the exception of sharing Miller who was principal at Brighton for many, many years. We once Sherry retired. We've had two principals there. And that was only yeah, you know, from a minute ago, my point is it's like, at what point are we blaming? Wait, you know, well, there's a room station happening. There's a, there's a, there's a leadership petition happening in the beach of schools. And, you know, I mean, you can, it's all public. Yeah. I mean, like when, wait, stuff through the browns when, when the GM makes a bad hire, usually that's the end of it. You know, that couple of those and you lose your career, but it seems like the people are nading these hires that don't turn out to work out right. Um, for some reason, we're not a lot of question though. Yeah. And uh, so yeah, and if, and if the board's going to go, well, it's Bob's party. Well, then that's your fault. You have the, do you have the power to decide what Bob's party with? You are the school board. You don't take direction from Bob. You give Bob direction. That's your role. And um, if they didn't learn about this, that, that the internal candidate was no longer being considered until after that decision was already made, that's a huge problem. Now, the board doesn't think that they have the power to tell the super, to manage a superintendent. Or they should explain why that's fine with them. Right. Um, because I would like that for them, even, even explain why they have no problem with that decision being made without them. Yeah. And then because I just, I disagree with them. What, what, what is the board doing besides their ever stamping, whatever Bob, Bob asked them to? Um, what, what decisions do they make if they're not involved in that decision? I'd like to know. I mean, I, I don't, I can't, I can tell you that board numbers say that they are responsible for the hiring, the firing of the superintendent and the treasurer. And that they, um, and they can say, they could say they can expand their, their, their, they certainly could. I know, I assume they could. I don't know that there's any, like, reason they couldn't. Um, I mean, they said his agenda, they, they, they, they, they, review him. They, they do the annual employee review. So certainly within that are goals that the board is deciding for him, not just his goals. Um, but the, I, I, I have found that the board used their biggest role as being a link to the community on behalf of the administration. So I don't know. I don't know what, you know, I, I, at least, you know, what I've seen, it seems like the, uh, the superintendent manages the board. Not the other way around. I mean, it certainly feels that way. Yeah. And, uh, and, and to find out that the, the board didn't know that the person, everybody thought was going to be the principal was taken out of consideration before the three candidates were presented a public only breathing forces that, um, that they weren't involved in the decision they didn't know about that decision. Um, so, I think, I, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm interested to see how this unfolds. Um, I'm interested to see. I, I think, I think she's being, uh, sounded that Monday night's board meeting, which, um, I don't really understand to see who's there who comes out into. Yeah. And, and to this woman, uh, who's just announced her, but we're, we're back at sharp. Sure. Um, I hope, I hope you're listening to this and I, and, and this is not any, and now this is not anything against you. Um, this is a, this is about just the way this process winds. And, um, well, I'm going to be trying to be sure to end. I think you are wonderful, especially when Jack Perkins does something to dumbass, stupid, and, uh, you need to decide whether you're going to drop the hammer, drop the feather. Please drop the feather once and twice. It's fine because, uh, yeah, a lot of people have, well, listen, a lot of people think their kid is perfect and doesn't do anything wrong. I'm well, well, your daughter is. My daughter has her moments, but, um, I'm like, no, you know, and I was in a group, uh, where somebody was, uh, critical of Tony to free that, yeah, and I know the situation. The kid did something very minor bone hitting. I thought Tony handled it perfectly. It was, it was an issue that did deserve a little discipline and Tony gave him just the right amount of little discipline. Yeah. And he was bitchwind about it. And I was like, he wanted, he wanted me to cry a lot. Yeah. You know, because I was like, I gotta say it, who, I think a lot of Tony, I think I go, there's been many instances where he could have dropped the hammer on Jack. And by the way, I don't think that would have been good in the long term with Jack. You say, no, Jack, right? And maybe he sensed that too. And he handled it perfect and probably, and he could have handled, he could have dropped the hammer on. He'd have every right to. And I go, I just, you know, at least with Mike's, you know, I've been very happy with, with them, but, you know, people, the principles are no, there's so many situations. It's a no one situation. It did something bonehead. It's a Chris Bills job to be the person who's got to be the disciplinary and deliver the bad news. And Tony is at this community, right? Yeah. Like he and his, his wife and their, their kids moved to Beachwood when he got the job and, you know, he, I don't have personally, because we have no live on the same street. And I was still at the administration when he was hired. And I think Tony is an amazing, amazing educator. I think he has ideas that are, that are far beyond what we were currently, we're doing at that time and are currently doing. But I don't think he's been treated well in this district either. So I, I, I, I wonder like, how does that reputation get, get out there, right? Like even, even coming back to the, to the principal selection, there was a Reddit post. No, I don't know Reddit, because I am a better, okay? I saw it. I saw it. I saw it. It's just a head to figure it out too. But there was a Reddit post. I got that from teachers in Cleveland Heights in Shaker, in Orange. I feel like what is happening in Beachwood? There are no secrets anymore. There is no privacy. There is, it is all out there happening in live time. So I hope that we can get it together. Yeah. Because I don't like to talk about the schools. Yeah. I mean, so I'm in a weird position because I do, I do feel like I have a really strong educated opinion on a lot of city issues. Because it's kind of a long about that stuff. Yes, you are. A lot of people, what do you think of this by the schools? And I got to tell people, that's just, I don't feel very comfortable weighing in on a lot of schools, because I wasn't a good student. You're asking me what, you know, it's because somebody asked me, well, what is a good educator? and I said. This is the part of an educator that I think is important, which is by far not the only thing is 10 years later when that kid runs into the guy. Is he going to be like, "Oh, Mr. Johnson." Yeah. Oh man, go see graphic deer. Like that person had such an effect on them and they value that. Yeah. And sometimes it does everything to do with the classroom model, the way that guy taught me math or science, and sometimes it's just the way that guy related to you. The guy would sit at a school where the faculty had a place where they sat in the shoes, but probably at least one out of three meals of faculty would come sit with the students. That's cool. And it was different. It was a boarding school, so. But you know, it was, you got to know the faculty that way. And now there's just some people that's not there. Believe it or not, every single faculty member in my boarding school was like that and could sit at the table and it not be uncomfortable, but it could have of them more. Right. And it takes that combination, right? And I want to say something about middle school because it is a pitfall of vicarious stuff. It's tough. And those are the girls and like the boys are stupid and you know, I wouldn't go back to middle school and you could not pay me enough to go back to middle school. I was really worried about Jack in middle school because he's on that. I don't have any idea what he's like at school, but at home he's low-keyed. He's shy. He's gotten way louder, but you know, he's not, he's not Ellie. Like I feel like you could put Ellie in the middle of grand central station. And first of all, the trains, I mean, running on time and the clothes, the, you know, the stores would have better clothes. Yeah. All the show would be happening. She's a, she's an old living girl. And why are those things you see are kind of her defense mechanisms, like security. So that's part of being on the living. Absolutely. Being shy is not one of them. But being shy is not one of them. And Jack is from my position thriving at middle school and it is because of those teachers. And he has like I was thinking about it yesterday, he's got like some bad lucks as a rally length. These teachers have been in that school for 20 plus years and they know inside now and they are not like afraid to push a kid. Not physically, but like push again for his benefit. Then last night we were on the six grade camp call and looking at Rob Ristow and he's so excited about camp and Jack has him first period for science. And Jack like refuses to be late for school. He will not let me make a dental appointment or any kind of appointment. He does not want to miss, he does not want to science. Very different than our household. Right. And I just thought to myself like does he recognize the first of all, does he recognize how cool Rob Ristow is like that is not the guy I add for science in six grade length. I actually have the PE teacher and I'm Jesus. We had a farm reform at Trigger Middle School. That's what we call when the final farm. We made his farm about it. I don't know. When I'm a farm, he made me some corner farm like he had a farm. He had farm. Yeah. So Pete Takahashi who wrote in my middle school year back that he really hoped when I got to high school, I had a better vocabulary and didn't curse so much. He's been a problem for a long time, Jay. So yeah. But to me like by no means am I saying I'm administrative level opinion. But to me that's like one of the big important things is that you're hiring teachers with the expectation of that the goal is that these kids look back at you and I know this. I mean when I was in Arizona, my math teacher, you know, the hockey coach and math teacher of him and his wife and his daughter, they okay. Well, I mean like I have that relationship with a half dozen. No more than that. Probably ten. Ten of my teachers from high school. I didn't know that with anybody from college except my hockey coach. You know, like yeah. And I mean those are those are the important. You know, looking because when you're a 15 14 15 16 17 year old kid, there's a lot of shit you don't want to share with your parents. You know, and no matter how great your relationship is with your parents and maybe you don't have an uncle that's close that you have that I have relationship with and it turns into the teacher. If you have this teacher that that's a guy that you know, the guy was the end cow from golver. I was always like he was like the uncle know you wouldn't smoke potten from him but he knew you smoke pot. Right. You know, and he wouldn't tell him because he didn't do that. That's why that you know, not to bring it back to public policy. That's why when we make rules that teachers can't help kids on whatever it is. Okay. Like it's yeah, it's usually something that that one party thinks is is bad for kids. And so, you know, when you when you can't you know, swipe away the gay or whatever it is and you make you make rules where teachers can be punished for being in that and that role for students who may not have that access anywhere else. So like you're not hurting the teachers. We're hurting our kids. Yeah. So I do think and last night, I guess I will say this at the middle school with Jack. I know that there's probably three people that I know that he he likes and he trusts well enough that I've had you when he has issues that he doesn't talk about with dad, you know, that you know, he's got somebody saying. And yeah, very, you know, I'm wonderful people. Yes. Yes. And we need more of them. We need more of them and we yeah, we need more of them and we need them to feel like I have that with Jack all the way through Miss acid bride in the reason I promised us because she's got like a shipping ski. Yeah. Which is her first name and I mean, you know, it's a and then Mr. Lustre at the top and then we lost him. I think he's at soul with now. Yeah. You know, we've been my my my daughter doesn't require a lot of extra resources if the least compared to my son, but my son would add some issues and the people there have been awesome. I just yeah. I just hope that they're being supported because I hope so. Yeah. I hope that our teachers know how much the community values them, you know, and the role they play in whether whether it was your kids are not. I think our teachers are amazing and recognized by by the community as being a real part of this community and several of them live here, but most of them don't. And I think they have really worked hard to make sure that they are present for our kids in non school hours. But frankly, at the end of the day, if they're just present for them during the school, that's enough. Yeah. That's enough. That was their job. But you know, he's like the one of the people I love the most from my son is Dan Bister. Yeah. He's got two kids. I think one so a year older than drive one so you're younger than Jack. So listen, when the school days over, he's got to go home and get down. He's dead. Yeah. But I've always just been so appreciative. The this guy cares so much about my kid because I know how he's a lot of the other kids that, you know, and I was wife also works in the district too. Yes. And, you know, there's wonderful people. Yeah. That I mean, I'm sure they're wonderful parents too, but like they, you know, thank God we have more of them. Yes. Yes. Indeed. Indeed. So I, you know, I was prepared to talk hockey with you. Okay. Because it goes to gay drama. The, the, the, the, the, the, the, yes. Yes. Are you watching? No, I'm not. I just, I don't watch any shows. Yeah. You know, I was watching a lot of people women. Okay. A lot of women are watching. What is basically? What's the name of the show again? Oh, God. Naked, naked hockey. I think it's close. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sitting hugely popular. Huge. I watched all six episodes and then just started over at the beginning. Okay. Okay. But it actually is a lot of fun. Hockeyy. Well, let me just tell you this. And if you, if you, the hockey culture is, I don't know if it's the same house it was. Even rivalry. Even rivalry. If you saw the way we acted in the locker, then you're like, yeah, definitely gay. That is, and it's funny because I guess like once you get to Iowa, where I played college hockey, like it's all American. So that is where I, you know, when you, I played it in three, you don't want there's some Canadians, but then you go play pro. It's like 15% Americans and Europeans. And the American, yeah, American culture in the locker room like the Europeans are like, what the fuck? Like, but. Oh, yeah. The towel's not bad. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm not going to pretend like I didn't disappoint it. It's a locker room thing. It's funny. No, but you wouldn't want to get outside the locker room. No, no. Well, I, um, yeah, I assume it's not like your, your speed, but it actually is a, it's a really great story. And, um, you know, it again, it makes me think like, yes, this is, you know, a fiction book and, you know, it's, it's extreme in the 14 different sex scenes over six episodes. Um, but there are probably guys right now in the lead. I can, I can tell you this like, uh, I got to imagine that it's got to be one of the more friendly, open sports for someone to come out and gay. That, that, that, that's my, I mean, it's been a long time since I've been in that world. I mean, I haven't played hockey in 20 years. Well, you do have all those Canadians and they are an open people. Yeah. that people are just cool. People are just normal. They're just cool. You know, that, you know, hey, hey, hey, that's cool. - One my girlfriend got into hockey because of watching the show. And so she has been going to hockey games and she calls it the boy aquarium. - Yeah, I've heard that. - And I love it. - I love it. - So are we wrapping? 'Cause I have an announcement. - Okay. Well, do we all talk about anything else? We've been going for 40 minutes. That's good. - No one's going to talk about it. - Um, the Super Bowl. - The Super Bowl is this weekend. Or as I've been referring to it, the bad bunny concert, which I am going to raise balls. - I'm going to not give my opinion for the learning of bad bunny. Is it good? - Yeah. - Okay. Which leads off for all the haters. - First of all, you're not gonna understand it. 'Cause he seems only in Spanish. And his Puerto Rican. - I went to San La Pampa. - Mm-hmm. - Is he gonna sing that? - He is not. Puerto Ricans don't pronounce the S in the word. It's kind of like softened. And so, like for me who can read Spanish, we'll read the lyrics and be like, but he's not singing when I think that word is, he's Puerto Ricans. - So, yeah, they disclosed a little bit here. - Okay. - My first serious girlfriend was Puerto Ricans. - Oh. - She was a blot. You wouldn't be like, she's Puerto Ricans. - Blond. - Blond. - Blond. People think that Puerto Ricans are all dark skinned but no, no ones. - Yeah. - No. - But yeah, she broke up with me, right? Oh, you dated like all senior year, I mean. You're my first real girlfriend. And then the day before graduation, she told me that she was in love with another guy. Just crushing. Just crushing. - Wow. - And here's the worst part. Okay, the guy Rudy is his name. Okay. - Rudy. - And so this is 1993. - Yeah. - I'm not gonna pretend that I got over that in the mid. - No. - Not gonna pretend at all I got over that in the mid. - No. - Next, what year do you think the movie Rudy came out in? '94. - Oh please say. - Okay. So our whole hockey team in college, we're badly doing this before the students. - Yeah. - For the wear, wear break. And we're all like, well, let's all go see the movie Rudy. And I'm like, no. - I'm like, okay, like, when they are like, as if she is like, I really got on the show, the general's own party. - Rudy. - Everyone's going crazy. I'm like crying. - And the theater just like, what can Rudy do? So then five year reunion, okay. I swear to buy, then I was over this. I wasn't over, I wasn't over it six months after it happened. - Yeah. - So where, me and my friend, I don't know, called her for the five year reunion and another kid and they're trying to be me. What are you gonna do when you see Rudy? I'm not gonna do anything. It's like, my life's good. I'm fine. Come on, I'm like, what are you gonna do? They're fine, I'm gonna be okay. I wouldn't be at all that upset if things aren't going well for. I'm not gonna lie. I like that wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. But you know, wouldn't be terrible. They don't want for. And we get up there, we've been in the first three hours we're at a bar and there's Rudy and he comes over to our table. Hey, hey, what are you doing? I'm thinking, please, please tell me this guy's fucking doing nothing and he's fucking almost please tell me nothing. He's like, and Rudy was from Mexico when I say Mexicans, the Mexicans went to call her with a ticket. I was like, can I have your insurance? I'll give that a take a rich. - Yeah. - And he's like, well, I did kind of, if it wasn't for me, I wanted to get to film. And he's like, show, and Titanic was filming in Mexico City. You know, I decided to go down there. He was the assistant casting director. And he's in the movie, the scene where they're moving, the people into their thing. Rudy's like walking in with the painting and after he tells us this, he leads the table, everyone's like, yeah, looks like he's doing real shitty. (laughing) Like, I was like, oh, I got back at him at night. - Okay. - We're at the bar and he's like, hey, you want a drink, Mike? Yeah, I have a drink, you know, on bartender. You know, get a drink and then he goes, and he leaves. And then I got another drink and he was like, I'm Rudy's dad. I love Rudy, right? He looked at me, he read it. Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I'm Rudy. - Drink. I must have bought $400 with the drinks. And I-- - For other people? - Yes. And I'm like, that's a nice revenge. - Yeah, and then I go, I go in my friend's bag, but I'm leaving now because Rudy's about to go to the bar and close out his tab and you've got to tell me the look on his face when he sees that tab. (laughs) - Come back there and it's way, he was like, holy shit. (laughs) - So that-- - I'm a whole-- - So you might not even open tab around the night. - Don't screw Mike Burkhan's girlfriend or graduation, okay? - Yeah. - Like that's-- - I mean, that is the fourth. - And then our bar tab is fine. - Nothing. - Yeah, he's in a punch, you know, which-- - No. - He might have deserved it. - Yeah. - I'm not advocating violence, but-- - No. - I think she was probably equally to blame. - Well, I think it might have been that I was a shit like it. - Oh, you were a shit boyfriend. - I don't think I knew how to be a boyfriend. - Do you see that I didn't even think that was possible? - Well, I'm sure the leader or not, I might seem so wonderful now, but I was-- - My first love, we don't make her. - Yeah, I mean, - Chisholm, do you wanna talk about your first love? - No. - No. (laughs) - So that, we could all share our first love stories. - Yeah, but, but by the way, I'm over. - That's it. - I think you're telling us that you've got a hot life. - You've got a wonderful life. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, but I actually hope that he's doing well. - I hope that he's doing well too. I wonder if he's single. - No, he's not, but I know he's probably still trying to have the credit card built in that guy. - Not in the front, not in the back. He's got bigger problems. - Yeah. - Well, that's exciting. That was a fun story to end on. - Yeah. - All right, well, Mike, I'm launching my own podcast. - You are? - Yeah, so that I can talk about things like heated rivalry and apparently, you know, women's obsession with gay sex. - Okay. Yeah, you know, I don't think I'm gonna be all that helpful podcast like that. - Well, that's what I was thinking. - Yeah. - So I am starting a podcast, one more thing. And that's what it was called, one more thing. And it is going to be about politics, pop culture and parenting. - Okay, well, you gotta make a promise to me. Okay, that you don't, you gotta see, - Oh, no. - Good conversation for our podcast. - Oh, 100%. - Okay. - But this will be all the shit you don't want to talk about. - That's perfect. - Yes, exactly. - That's perfect. - Yes, it's a win-win. - Oh, it's a total win. - Yes. There's definitely things that I know you wanna talk about that I want to do, really? - I know, I know, no, this will be great. - Yeah. - This will be great. - You get everybody together, Trump. - Well, you got it first of all. You got a good studio here. - I know, it really do. - Like, it really do. - You should, you know, I know you guys. - Can you talk to me? - I hope the new logo. - Anyway, I also know you have a job. I'm gonna have other shoot to do besides hosting people at your house. - You know what, though? I really enjoy, look at us, look at us. - Oh, great. - Let me see it. I like it. I like it a lot. - Yeah. - Yeah. - So I'm gonna make a pitch for your new podcast. - Yeah. - Okay. - This has been really fun for me and I could tell for you. - And then? - I think it's the last thing I've ever-- - Yeah, you have me not talking about things that you really thought about. - But you know what, Mike, and I say this to people and I still, and I mean it. This, doing this with you is probably the only thing in my life that is just mine, right? Right? And I set aside the time and I love that I get to do it with a friend. And you know, when, when pot property like closed, I was devastated, I was like, what are we gonna do? We gotta figure this out. And because I have the most amazing husband ever, he was just like, hey, babe, I bought this really expensive looking machinery. So we can do this at the house. And I was like, we can't, we can't do this. And he and I amazing son, like, freaking clear it out of room. This room was Lego City. My kids have been working on a Lego City for five years and he was like, mommy, it's gonna be a podcast studio now. - What is? - Yeah. - So, it was, it was, it was, it was, yeah, this was like, better than, because we had to be, you know, last week, I was like, well, it's just me and you, right? So, I think, I'm, I'm seven, but I'm like, be it eight. You know, like, when you have a studio in your house, you know, you gotta, yeah, strip. So this is actually works out better. - It's a little hard to get in my bed, but what you do these days with, you know, the snow. - It's a simple job. This has been a tough one. - Tough one, yeah. So anyway, yeah, we'll be cross-promoting. Well, that's in social media plan. - Yeah. - And yes, if anybody is interested in doing their own podcast, we would love to talk to you about the process 'cause we've learned a lot and we have some great resources and guys who help us out as engineers and editors, video editors. So I feel like we can recommend them. You can come here and record. And I'm always looking, I will be looking for guests. I don't wanna do it solo. - So like, what's your name? Brian Howey, who's the guy at POD POP UI. Yeah, he's really good at understanding podcasts. He's just like, it's just, you imagine when I've dinner, I have a conversation, you know? You go to do anything and talk about this. Sometimes you do. Sometimes you know, the conversation turns and you talk about what's interesting. - Yes. - And that's what's made it enjoyable for me. - I'm gonna give a shout out to an event happening two nights after the city council meeting on the 17th. The J-Hub is hosting a forum grand show with a panel like this. infamous Jewish drag queen, the mother you always wish you had, it's a $15. It's like a dessert reception. >> You were goldfish like I used to be the- >> Quite possibly. >> You remember at the time. >> Yeah. >> What time did we go together? >> For the family. >> For the family. >> For the family. >> I remember. >> You get that golf ball in the big ball. >> That golf ball. >> Yeah. >> And that goldfish lasted more than two days. It was a miracle. >> A miracle. >> Yeah. >> Yes. So I hope we do- >> Is it a goldfish? You're going to be a drag goldfish? >> I know. >> Is there any way to- >> I agree. >> Yes. Sequence on the fence. >> Okay. >> So anyway, Jason and I are going with some other friends and it is a school night. It's a Thursday night, but- and it's at a temple, Mishkanor. >> Cool. >> So I'll be the first time I've stepped foot in a temple like a while, but at least there will be drug queens. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Not too all right. >> Next week. >> That's what you said. What do you do today? Today is the one. >> Today, I don't know, but next week is the 13th because Valentine's Day is Saturday. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So all I know- >> There's your warning. >> Yeah. We never bid a Valentine's Day people, just a little bit. By the way, Thursday, the Olympic hockey tournament starts for men. >> Blue. >> Yesterday for women and we have a Cleveland Heights career. >> Yes, we do. >> Always. >> On TV all the time, you know, because once she's the first black girl ever to play on the Olympic team, which doesn't mean that like to me, she's a player, but no, there is something about that. Like she's a pioneer. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> But it's great to see her. She represents Cleveland Heights. >> Do you love it? I hope the real season are going to have a long- >> Yeah. >> But if they're not, she's welcome here. >> Well, first of all, the Kelsey's, I think that would her whole family is in there and I know they had to go find me and there was a big chunk that was still made in anonymous week. >> I love that. >> And for my say in the Chelsea season, you know, we're really proud of their Cleveland Heights. >> Absolutely, absolutely. >> And so, that's great. >> Yeah, I know the one thing about her being the first black person is, it's, it's it's who she is. >> You know, which, if she was just like, you'd be like, which one's her, what number? >> It's them. >> Yeah, it's them. >> So, yeah. >> And her brother, coach is my little brother. >> That's awesome. >> I guess you're a great guy. And my brother used to play pickup with her dad too. So, my brother knows all them. >> Oh, that's very good. >> So, let's read it. And I, I'm so excited for the men's turning it like this, the NHL. >> Is there big like rivalry happening? >> Well, US Canada. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> But there was like 14 to go in. So, that may not turn out to be the chain reach of games. But the NHL hasn't had players in it for two Olympics. They didn't. >> I know. >> They didn't. >> And they stopped for a bunch of reasons. And it's really, this is really great. >> And they seem like to see the pros play for their own. >> Well, it's a good. >> Yeah. >> I mean, so the last day of the season was yesterday and they take a two and a half week break for this only big turn. >> Wow. >> Yeah. So, if you're a hockey fan, it's 33rd day at 3rd, it's the first USA game for the men. And the women are one and all they beat. >> I think the lab view on yesterday. >> Okay. >> So, I mean, I know like the other Olympic sports are great. >> Yeah. >> And I'm like, hockey tournament. >> Yeah. >> It's just. >> Well, I like hockey. I like ice skating. >> Yeah. >> Ice skating dancing couples. >> If you want entertainment. >> Yeah. >> Watch my mom watch figure skating. Well, you might be like a woman's crazy. >> No. >> Mom, they can't hear you. Like, she's yelling at the table. >> My God, I watch. >> She's yelling at the judges. >> Well, you invite her over and let's watch the finals. >> She does have some messages. I should put a camera on and know what she doesn't know. But then people go up to she's crazy. So, it's crazy. >> Yeah. >> But. >> And then she's just all that time. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Well, happy Olympics. >> Happy Olympics. >> Happy Olympics. >> And we'll see you next week. Talk to you later. Bye. >> Good night.