The conversation centers on fitness, risk, and identity, with the host reflecting on body composition, health, and the evolution of their personal brand. Initially debating a controversial claim about a doctor’s 0% body fat son, the host shifts focus to their own physical state, estimating a BMI of 27 and body fat around 14%. They critique fitness rankings that undervalue endurance, noting that someone with the world’s highest VO2 max is still ranked below others due to strength disparities. Rock climbing is described as a cult-like pursuit driven by social competition and the desire to push limits, often resulting in injury. The host has since moved away from climbing toward more extreme, high-risk physical challenges—such as cave diving and motorcycle riding—many of which generate greater engagement and views. These activities are framed not just as physical feats but as psychological and emotional experiences, fueled by fear, preparation, and audience impact. The host acknowledges personal risks, including injury and near-death moments, and discusses how filming amplifies courage. A deeper theme emerges around the human need for adventure, with references to mortality, the "great filter" of space travel, and the appeal of dangerous, unstructured physical challenges. Ultimately, the host sees themselves not as a climber, but as a modern explorer of physical extremes, blending risk, storytelling, and personal growth into a unique content identity.
Because you realize that in order to climb, you have to be really skinny, right?
And, yeah, yeah, yeah, you can grab your mic, we'll just start, we'll just roll right into it.
Oh, we're rolling, okay.
So, I love that, I love where you start this, because you called Lubbock fat.
Well, that's not what he said.
Well, you said he wasn't skinny.
He immediately recognized that you're, you told me yesterday what the doctor told you.
They like to call me fat.
No, the doctor medically explained you're fat, he told us this yesterday.
Oh, this did happen.
What's your BMI, do you know?
The doctor just went like this, he went.
I went to the doctor for the first day for a physical in like five years, and it was this Lebanese doctor.
I just picked the closest one.
And, interesting.
He's pointing that out to me.
Right.
He's Lebanese.
That's great.
He spoke seven languages.
Wow.
And, the first thing he said to me, he's like, well, what are you here for?
And, I was like, well, I'm here for, just be checked up, just to see if I'm healthy.
And, he goes, okay, six feet, 190, and he does quick math, and he goes, 27 BMI.
And, then he starts drawing it down, and he goes, 25 and below, healthy, 25 and up, overweight.
And, he literally did a circle, and he said, you are here.
And, then he said, do you have muscle?
And, I went.
And, then he said, it looks like a little bit.
You could still lose a few.
And, then he said, my son has 0% body fat.
Damn.
His son has 0%?
Yes.
He shouldn't say that as a doctor.
It's a lie.
He said nothing here.
0% body fat.
And, he's lying.
He's a Lebanese lying doctor.
Even if he's really like 13%, maybe.
What is your BMI?
My BMI, I don't know.
BMI is not that important, though.
But, body fat is more interesting, I feel like.
A lot of people say they're like 3%.
I've heard a lot of people say.
But, that's like almost dying.
It's not healthy.
Pretty much no one is 3%.
Definitely 0% is impossible.
His son is 0%.
He eats beef every night.
That's what he told me.
He eats beef every night, and he gets no action.
No action.
He was sad that his son hadn't had sex yet.
Where did you find this doctor?
Typical Lebanese.
I don't know.
He told me that when he was in college, he was getting girls every night.
And, his son doesn't get any girls.
But, anyway, yeah.
He's 0%.
My guess is that I'm around like 14, maybe, right now.
14?
Yeah.
What would you say, Matt?
You?
Can I be sure?
Yeah, go ahead.
Ugh.
Piece of that.
Did you fucking laugh?
Did you like that?
Did you like it?
Maybe 20?
20?
Yeah.
Not bad.
Do you think the doctor overestimated?
Hmm?
Zipper, Zipper, could you pull up the Yard podcast?
Twitter, and it's the first, the most recently posted image.
I kept messaging Lundo to see if he had seen this.
I said it in his chat yesterday when he was doing friend slop.
I sent it to him directly, and he didn't reply.
But, now, we can just look at it together.
We can force him to reply.
And, we can force him to reply, and you, yourself, Magnus, can see.
Scroll down.
Okay.
Is this body tea?
Dude, you look great.
It's not the most flattering picture of me.
It's not the most flattering picture of me, but.
Someone replied and just said, oh, my God, the abs drooling emoji.
We didn't bring Magnus here to talk about whether I'm fat or not.
What did we bring Magnus here to do?
Yeah.
You set all this up to have some amazing chess player on our podcast.
Not chess.
Not the wrong region.
I'm not the chess player, by the way.
What?
I'm sorry to break it to you.
Oh, okay, fine.
You got the guy who climbed that building on Netflix to come on our podcast.
Not that guy either.
Not that guy either.
Then what is he doing here?
To confront him, Zipper, can you pull up the clip?
Pull up the clip.
This is actually something I needed to talk to you about.
Oh, I know.
No audio.
Yeah, we don't need audio.
I think you can just go forward to the tier list part because Magnus did a video called
Ranking Who Is Really The Fittest Influencer.
Oh, my God.
You look pretty fit in that video, though.
Yeah, but okay.
Why does that picture look so disgusting?
Look at his stats.
Can you look at the stats?
Okay.
That's compared to like high level athletes.
So even just making that list of the top 20 people I've collabed with is like an honor.
Bowser has better.
That's like, yeah, like you put my endurance.
It doesn't even have a green marker.
I feel like he's got quite a lot of strength.
Completely honest.
I didn't have anything to do with this.
My editor.
The.
Wait, is it the same as your cameraman or is a different guy?
It's the same as the last cameraman.
Last time we did the video.
Who I met.
Yes.
So I met.
Yeah, he didn't meet him.
So you have met him.
Yeah.
And then go forward a little bit to just the actual tier list.
Right.
It's a weird list.
You're Mr. Beast's tier?
No, I think I'm below.
Is that Dana White?
Yes.
What the fuck?
That guy is.
That's Baron Harkonnen.
Did you go to the same tier as him?
Wait, the world's strong.
One of the world's strongest men is in the middle tier?
Yeah, the tier list.
Well, the tier list.
It is.
It's based on who we collabed with.
And I only got to rank the people I collabed with and he ranked the people.
So like Logan Paul, I have no idea how fit he is.
That was Jesse.
Oh, Jesse solo ranked Logan separate of you.
Right.
Because he collabed with him.
It's truly a political move.
Yeah, I was put at the bottom of this.
I know.
Honestly, it's probably the best I've ever looked.
Is that Mark Wahlberg?
That's Mark Wahlberg.
Yeah.
Was that you or Jesse?
Yeah.
What a crazy list.
4am crew.
That was Jesse.
Jesse's collabs are crazy.
Do you know who's sitting next to Mark Wahlberg?
That's the fittest guy on the planet right there.
Really?
He has the highest VO2 max ever recorded.
Really?
Can I ask if he's the fittest man on the planet?
Why is he below?
Why is he not?
Why is he below Mark Wahlberg?
Because this is based on also strength, not only endurance.
Okay.
And his endurance is, of course, the best in the world.
So he's like best cardio in the world.
He's the best cardio, but since he's ranking low on strength, he's a little bit below.
But it's kind of, a lot of people messaged me and said that it's ridiculous that he is not elite.
And I kind of agree.
He is, yeah, it's insane.
He has the highest VO2 max.
It's over 100.
I don't know if that.
What does that equate to in like?
Like, what can he do that I can't?
It means that his body absorbs more oxygen so he can run faster.
And he has the fastest Ironman in history.
Oh, wow.
So he's better than anyone.
Triathlon is his discipline.
He's an Olympic champion in triathlon.
So that guy in the green tier is in the middle.
That's the guy who's trying to live forever through technology, right?
Yes.
Who, you know, documented, went to his son when his son was sleeping.
Yep.
And measured the first.
And measured the firmness of his erection.
Yes.
And to, in hopes of living forever one day.
Is that true?
It's true.
This is true.
He himself has said that he has done this.
He tweeted it.
He tweeted it, yeah.
And I don't know if this will help, but maybe it adds a couple years on.
Who knows?
Really, I'm just hoping to see if you want to change your mind at all.
Not that we're here.
A little bit intimidating with the.
No, it's just my normal attire that I wear for the podcast.
Yeah, we can move you up maybe to strong.
This is actually a really good question.
Magnus, so nice to meet you.
Yeah.
Even though I'm not the chess player or the guy who frees soloed building.
You're not the Netflix guy.
I'm not the Netflix guy.
That's okay, because that was terrifying.
Do you think you're trapped in a room with Ludwig?
Yeah.
Fight to the death.
Or, no, sorry, fight to knockout.
Okay.
Do you think you'd take him?
Right now, no, I don't think so, because I have a broken thumb.
Okay, no, no, no, you're healthy, you're healthy, you're healthy.
Yeah.
No broken thumb.
Hypothetical, you're healthy, no broken thumb.
How much fighting have you done?
Like, do you do any martial arts?
That's a good question.
My friend and I, or my friend Anders and I in college,
would slap each other as hard as we could when we got drunk.
And that's one time it went to punches.
It's a very powerful slap.
Yes, good slap.
Zero, I did a boxing class once.
Yeah.
And I've been on the Peloton every day this week.
Right.
I mean, you're heavier than me and stuff, but I would exhaust you.
I would be like. I would be smart and, like, pace it out.
And when you're exhausted, that's when I would make my move and I would choke you.
That sounds somewhat sexual, but I'm just going to put this shirt on.
Yeah, that's a little. I mean, it is.
Ignoring your injury, are you, like, are you at your peak?
Or what is your distance from your peak?
Climbing-wise or fitness-wise?
Fitness-wise.
Yeah, I'm pretty close to my peak.
Right before I got injured, I was pretty close.
Whoa.
And I would say that when I did professional climbing,
I was, like, very good.
I was very good at professional climbing, but not so overall fit, you know?
In climbing, you want to neglect your legs because you want your legs to be as light as possible.
Oh, interesting.
There's even people who've been. They've sat in wheelchairs to lose weight in their lower body.
Oh, my God.
To be lighter.
Wait, how old are you?
38.
Ma'am, it's an honor to meet you, ma'am.
How old do you think I am?
Wait, get a good look.
Uh, 32?
Oh, my God.
Flattering.
Flattering.
Flattering.
I'm 36.
You're 36?
I'm 36 years old.
Yeah, you have, like, baby skin.
Thank you, bro.
Yeah.
Moisturize.
Thank you, bro.
And, like, hair is not really. It doesn't. People can. You can be 22 and have no hair, so. You can be a bald 22-year-old and still have motion.
Most Scandinavians.
Yeah.
Is it?
Yeah.
I think so.
The bald?
Yeah, like, the hair goes thin, they go bald.
At least that's what it was on my father's side.
Yeah, because you're half Swedish, right?
- Yes, and they all got attacked.
get away with it
with the oil money.
Yeah, I go to Turkey
and get transplants.
Yeah, no, luckily
I have my hair still,
but yeah, no.
It's all natty?
Thank you, bro.
The hair's all natty?
It is all natty.
What can't you do?
I mean, you too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How old are you?
You're all around
the same age, I guess, right?
That's him?
No, I mean. That's you?
I was going to say
you're the same age as him, yeah?
30.
We're all in our 30s.
You look 36, bro.
That's okay, that's okay.
I'm not at the point
where it hurts me yet.
I need to come clean to you, bro.
Let me do it
because I know what you're going to say
and it's the most annoying question.
Let me just catch you up to speed.
Okay, because he's. I apologize.
He's a resident idiot.
He doesn't know anything culturally
that happens.
And so we've brought on Mr. Beast
and he said,
what do you do?
Yeah, he. Which I actually respect heavily.
He asked Mr. Beast,
like, what is it you do?
Okay.
What did Mr. Beast respond to that?
I make videos,
which is great.
That's what you want.
You want someone to answer honestly.
Pretend we're on a bus.
Right.
Pretend you get onto a bus
because you've fallen on hard times.
Ouch.
I'm on a bus
because I live on the bus.
And I come up to you
in my tattered robes
and I sit down next to you.
Smells like cheese.
Bad time.
But you're a very polite person.
You're a very nice person.
And you kind of put up with me.
And I go. So what do you do?
What do you say?
I mean, I would just say
that I'm a YouTuber, I guess.
YouTuber?
What kind of YouTube?
You don't move a few seats back?
You don't get off the bus?
I don't get off the bus.
You gotta climb over me.
And I'm kind of doing this.
First I assess you as a threat.
I determine that you're not a threat.
First I exhaust you.
I would exhaust you.
Yeah, no.
If I was trapped,
completely trapped,
then I would say I'm a YouTuber.
Yeah, I would try to avoid. I would like more questions, I guess.
YouTuber first.
So that's the first thing you say,
like a Uber driver conversation type of thing.
Yeah, because I'm not trying to impress you, right?
Okay.
Yeah.
You're trying to exit the conversation.
I am trying to exit the conversation.
But you say you're a YouTuber
that's instantly impressive.
Yeah, that's true.
So I'm not maybe exiting the. And I'm breathing heavy now.
Okay.
My nephew's on YouTube.
What's your channel?
That's going to be your next question.
What's your channel?
Oh my God, what's your channel?
Yeah, right.
So then. Yeah, I would probably give you my real channel.
Okay.
Have you given a fake channel?
You don't lie?
I wouldn't.
No, because I mean,
it's not like you can DM someone on YouTube.
See, I've lied before.
When someone asks you for your YouTube channel?
No, I lie at the first part
when they ask what my job is.
Okay, what did you say?
I say editor for a YouTube channel.
Oh, wow.
Really?
And then I find the most horrendous looking
kid's YouTube channel.
Yeah.
And I go, yeah, edit for that.
Mystery slime opening video.
He has like 50 million subs.
I'm like, oh, cool.
That's. All right.
The conversation sort of drowns out.
That's not what I was going to say, though.
He jumped the gun.
I wasn't going to admit that I didn't know anything
because that's inherently implied
when I called you a chess player.
What I do want to say is you're among two guys
who engaged in your art, your practice,
not YouTubing, rock climbing, climbing, I should say,
and then abandoned it.
Right.
Failed at it.
Yeah, he was very into it.
I was very into it, yeah.
I was going like. After or before we did the video?
Before.
Before.
Yeah, I was like going like four times a week
for a few years.
Wow.
And then I got two shoulder injuries.
Okay.
And I quit.
Yeah.
I think a lot of. One reason that a lot of people quit
is that in the beginning,
you do like a new level every time you go,
like V2, V3, V4, V5.
And then V5, V6,
that's where usually people plateau.
Yeah.
And they expect the next grades to unlock as easy
and they don't.
I guess you have felt that.
Been a little called out.
Well, I didn't even make it that high up.
I quit because I have a theory
and I'm curious.
If you want to weigh in,
I think rock climbing is a cult.
A little bit like everything.
Not as much as like CrossFit or high rock
or something like that.
Yes, those people are freaks
I wouldn't even consider to engage with.
Okay.
But I do think rock climbing is a cult
in that it is like a. Such a social exercise
that I think more often than not
leads to injury,
which is sort of ironic
because you escaped injury from rock climbing
for your whole career.
Because you actually work out outside of it.
That's my theory.
I think people who only rock climb
and don't exercise at all,
they injure themselves every time.
Okay.
I also think rock climbing though,
it's like there's a problem.
You want to. There's a big excitement to push
and like complete it.
And sometimes you overexert yourself
if you think you can like. If I put, you know,
another 5% effort to do it.
Yeah.
But in like, you know,
maybe a more traditional gym or running,
it's like you feel like
you're pushing yourself a little too hard.
It's like you just stop the exercise.
But there's. There's like a completion aspect
that you're looking for
that I think pushes you to injury.
Do you agree?
Yeah, at a certain point, I guess.
Yeah.
But that's just because
it's more motivating than other sports.
You know, like running another minute
doesn't mean anything.
But like you say,
getting to the top and matching the top hold,
that's the rewarding part.
You know, you don't want to fail.
There's a win state.
There's a win state in climbing,
which a lot of, I guess,
solo sports kind of don't have.
Yeah.
Because like team sports, obviously,
you're playing against each other
and stuff like that.
But yeah.
There's also time pressure
because they'll change the problem.
Like depending on the gym,
whatever, maybe every two weeks.
Yeah, every month,
like a problem will go away
and it never comes back.
So it's like if you lost to it,
you lost to it.
Right, you don't get a chance.
That's indoor climbing,
not outdoor.
But yeah, and also. The outdoor rocks.
The earthquake could change
the routes outside.
That's true.
And also the gyms are crowded
and there are people in there
you want to impress.
You don't want to look stupid,
you know?
Have you ever observed. I think at your level,
it's not much of a. It's not much of a factor.
Maybe it is.
But I feel like
at my measly low level,
there's like a funny effect
with rock climbing
where like the most excited people
to watch you succeed
are the people at the gym
you don't know.
And like your friends
you came with
are kind of like,
ah, nice.
Because they're kind of pissed
you did it a little bit.
Maybe, yeah.
I've definitely noticed that
where it's like
your friends are kind of like,
ah, dude, nice.
I'm going to go work
on this one now.
And the person you don't know
is like, dude,
fucking sick, man.
Like, nice to meet you.
This is my name, by the way.
Friend groups are competitive.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
I think I've seen a shift in you
where I've known you
for a few years.
You were the rock climbing guy.
The de facto guy.
Known him or known of him?
Known both.
I mean, we met many years ago.
It was like. Yeah, so three, four years ago now?
At least four years ago.
And I think you were like
the rock climbing guy
and you kind of owned
that niche on YouTube.
But like, since then,
I don't see you as that.
You're just the guy
who does sort of insane. physical shit
that doesn't really have
a connecting strand.
Like, I watched the video
where Rainbolt sent you
to the most remote location
in Norway.
And then, yeah,
I watched you. I watched that.
You cave diving.
That gave me
fucking full body anxiety.
I wouldn't do that again,
to be honest.
That was terrifying.
That cave in particular.
Like, the other caves
were not as bad,
but that one was really bad.
It was crazy in that thumbnail.
He's the soothsayer.
It actually was good.
So I guess my question to you is,
do you also no longer
see yourself as the rock climber?
Do you see yourself as the fit. What is it?
The fitness man?
The fitness man?
I don't know.
I do. I'm in all sorts of stuff.
But that stuff actually gets more
views on YouTube
than the climbing stuff.
And I also enjoy doing that stuff.
So. Is it more that it gets more views?
Like, if you could go to a. Okay.
All right.
This. So this is maybe a deep pull,
but that thumbnail you have
where everything just got a lot worse.
Is this when you broke your thumb?
I'm assuming. That's after the surgery.
After a surgery?
What kind of surgery?
They put in a plate and four screws.
Oh, in your hand.
In my problem here.
Yeah, okay.
So this is identical
to a short form video
of an ape in a gymnasium
doing the same thing
and he's very scared.
And the caption is
getting sucked off by a ghost.
And I know it's. I know it's going to be
really hard to find Zipper,
but if you could just try to find it,
I swear to Jesus Christ on this earth,
it is one-to-one.
And maybe you were inspired.
Maybe you saw this on Reels.
You were inspired.
So you're subconscious, maybe.
And I think that's a very special
connective tissue
that I, a guy who maybe
won't watch your video otherwise,
might just click on that one.
But I don't choose
the thumbnails anymore.
You don't?
I mean, the people do.
You don't do A-B testing?
Oh, we do A-B testing.
We have at least
like 10 thumbnails per video,
So, okay, you said you. Are you chasing what does the views
or what you want to do?
I try to do both.
I mean, I do want to. I do things that I want to do.
And creatively,
it's been nice going from climbing
and being very limited to that.
And now doing all sorts of stuff
has opened a lot of. If cave diving got 50 million views. We actually, on this last video,
we were like hoping
that it wouldn't do well
because that would mean
we wouldn't have to do another one.
But this, I don't know
if you watched it,
if you watched the video,
but it's in the UK
and the whole cave floods
within an hour of rain.
And this is the UK,
like the weather is super unpredictable.
And then we're going to get
an hour deep into the cave.
Uh-oh, what will happen?
Yeah, I mean, there's no. There's like no pocket of air
anywhere in the cave.
And four, five people drowned there already
and the bodies have not been recovered,
but they're still in there somewhere.
It was just a very like creepy feeling.
- Was there a moment that you were like,
i see one of the bodies uh not really i didn't think so much about that it was more like trying
to analyze the the water you know because there's always water going through and like is it getting
higher um and then also sounds like rumbling sounds that's not what you don't want to hear
and that's terrifying you know like like alex honnold has been asked about like his how his
brain kind of like doesn't really fire off the same way other people's does with fear responses
what's your relationship with like death like do you think about it the way i think about it
we're like i'm afraid of it or yeah i'm afraid of dying for sure really yeah yeah because you
do a lot of shit that gets you close to it yeah yeah i know i just find life to be super boring
at times and that's when i want to do stuff like that you know like um when did you when did you
like first feel that like i'm so bored i want to go get close to dying uh i never feel like i haven't
felt like i got really close to dying though so far really no okay
because you went free soloing yeah there was never a point where you were like oh shit this
next move i don't feel good about it's just so easy i mean you guys all climbed a little bit so
it's like i mean five nine to me it's like it's pretty much like walking you know yeah if you have
a stroke you're gonna die but let me tell you guys about the best fastest and easiest way to
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well no it's it's it's cumbersome you have to carry it around you have to hand it off to people
it's dirty it's so easy no you could just use cash my chickens are clean like the you know you could
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uh i i want my shoes i don't want to walk around without shoes i'll take 30 bucks do you have that
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to you three chickens obo i know what i got let's get back to the episodes i think you have some
blinders on though to like what you do because even the video where you went to the most
remote part of norway yeah like it felt like you it felt like you prepared like i would to like go
to a friend's house yeah like you i hate preparing yes you brought like a hat like a parachute like
a shitty lifeboat and then you were like canoeing through like you know miles and miles of land and
if that like if that boat like pops yeah and i did it did yeah yeah like when you when you the
part in the video where you're like yeah i'm wearing the mask and i'm wearing the mask and
for mosquitoes that i bought like the whole head thing but they're biting me through it right i was
like oh my god i would have fucking lost everything i couldn't handle that yeah no the mosquitoes that
was you had like a thousand mosquito bites on your face oh it was all swollen like so that that's
what i'm saying though it's like because you don't like preparing you're woefully underprepared
is it just you have this supreme confidence that you can get out of yeah i feel like there i always
have like a margin you know um and i for me it takes away a lot of the
adventure to prepare uh for stuff you know some people love the preparation part like studying
things and equipment and ordering all the stuff and getting prepared i just like when i see
something i just want to next day i just want to go out and do that and like not really knowing
what's going to happen if you don't if you didn't bring the right gear you're going to learn next
time you're going to i don't know to me it's part of the excitement i guess are there places where
you'll you know actually like if you did skydiving you prepare i've done that you prepared
yeah okay i took a course i just took a car okay the required course wait did you just got did you
just gotta have a loan no no assistant or whatever yeah oh i did seven jumps that's what you need to
get your license or whatever but i haven't i mean i i lost it because you have to every year you have
to get a certain amount of jumps and stuff you just did it to get the license yeah and i did a
part i wanted to test it on youtube and it performed worse than any this is like seven
years ago when i started youtube so it's like the videos are not great but um are you at a place
let's say you went on some sort of new thing cave diving whatever and it performed terribly
yeah but you loved it like are you in a place right now where you'd be like well i won't do
it again but i i loved it because it just performs too bad uh yeah i would just do it without filming
it you know just for my yeah myself and if you do videos where you have to bail from airplanes that
have mechanical failure and skydive to safety but it almost kills you but it gets so many views
you'll just keep doing that no i mean there's
a limit to how much i care about the use but um but no definitely i mean yeah a lot of people have
like risky jobs myself included and that's just part of i love the zipper actually could you go
and bring up the we did an episode recently and i think we're kind of in the same realm you and me
and nick actually not a lot of because yeah that we did an episode where we rented a lamborghini
yes very daring we do we also do daring things
i believe this this video just hit a million views
oh wow bring it i mean i don't think it deserves oh fuck me bro no it's a 900 so embarrassing
i just thought i would get there get there if three weeks pass if one of his videos got that
number he'd kill himself it'd be all over norwegian but don't you see i'm doing a half
hours we're wearing suits don't you see how daring we look look how daring
we look very daring have you ever eaten this much american fries in one day probably not
it'll probably kill you that doesn't look like a lot but uh eventually that's only one portion
of 100 yeah yeah but i i was gonna say that's pretty impressive they're like two hours and
25 minutes you don't have to give it thank you bro i appreciate it you did something dangerous
though ludwig the um the motorcycle in china the oh yeah like going from did you go from the very
south to the north or something yeah yeah yeah one from like it's not the like the furthest
southern point but like the southern sea the china sea to the north or something yeah yeah
the southern border of mongolia yeah a motorcycle that didn't feel dangerous actually michael almost
died that's the thing it usually doesn't feel dangerous when you're there true it doesn't
because when we were going from the south of burbank to pretty much the middle north of
southern mcdonald's to the north northern mcdonald's you know what safe because you look
back on that video you're like it does feel dangerous but at the moment at the time bro
we were just like let's let's get this footage okay let's get this video done i i you as you
as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you
as much as the average man feels fair yeah for example i really want to learn to do a backflip
but i'm scared yeah i'm physically capable of doing one i'm scared of that too have you done
one no i yeah i luckily i have got lucky and did it once what do you mean you got like like like a
car was coming and you had to what do you mean lucky and did it once i tried it like 200 times
uh okay someone tried to teach me so you're not like ludwig you actually conquered the fear and
tried and i did it once and i'm like i'm not gonna do it again i'm not gonna do it again i'm not gonna do it
and then i tried to replicate it and i couldn't and i landed on my neck you know just like okay
i'm never gonna try and now you're done but you got the one landing so you feel good yeah so i'm
i have this general fear but i do feel like when i'm filming even if it's not live like for example
the tip to tip series that i have less fear when the camera's rolling i don't know why that is do
you feel the same same why you want to impress people i mean you want to impress the audience
right um
i think that's just natural uh when no one's looking why would you do something dangerous
if it's not i mean it is kind of like um to uh impress the tribe you know back in the days like
yes something dangerous and then everyone's watching and looking at you if you impress
the tribe and take down the gorilla and nobody sees exactly then yeah if you if you dance with
the gorilla and live you get extra mammoth in the cave that night yes which is very important
i think that's why we do it
also i mean again i hate to bring up you know our youtuber adventures yeah i feel like you
really hate bringing it up
to the hong kong butcher it was a man who was selling his fake watches nick was terrified but
he wasn't terrified because of the camera was on we we got offered fake rolexes in hong kong okay
and we got taken with special room taken into this like ninth story shower world i don't know
how else to describe it it was a room and all it was was a shower okay and he was and normally i
think in my day-to-day life i would be like i'm not following this man into this into the shower
but because we were secretly filming i was like i'll do anything i'll do anything i was like i'll
go anywhere with this guy because it's making for the best footage he could have been the hong kong
butcher he probably was yeah yeah but the wash was too clean yeah no and that that is dangerous
you know you are definitely a bit reckless when filming but i don't think many youtubers have
died on camera or like no it doesn't happen that often uh i think there's a paragliding
youtuber it's the last one i remember paragliding paramotor
paramotoring yeah okay that one's scary you know what that is yeah like the giant fan would you do
that dude paramotoring just got updated bro bro dropped a new tech wait what because i i started
getting paramotor videos in like sophomore year of college on my on my my youtube algorithm and
it was just a guy who like flies himself to mcdonald's with a big fan on his back
and he eats mcdonald's in the sky i'm like this is what the internet's all about um and i would
just spend it with my friend all day um but he now he's flying with like a jet turbine
on his back it's the same guy it's like yeah same guy and he's got like a big just like like a big
flame it's not even a fan anymore it's like it's like a big turbine it's like a tears of the kingdom
it's crazy it must be please look this up i don't know if it's faster okay i think his name is tucker
got and he has like a big jet turbine on his back uh we'll find it um but yeah i would not ever do
that i think i'm too afraid of dying okay look do you believe in an afterlife maybe that helps you
i bought the world's
is it this guy that probably helps that's him look look at that big look at him oh wow flying
mcdonald's my private jet he's got a big fucking jet turbine on his back this guy's been flying
around for so long he's been flying to mcdonald's for like nine years he looks great to be honest
he looks amazing but what is um they also have these like hoverboards with the propellers and
stuff oh yeah i've seen the ones you were on your hands like that seems cooler or more fun as well
i mean definitely cooler this looks
that's the device yeah there's that and all you and then you have like the parachute above you
that like allows you to change your direction you need a heat shield for that look how crazy this is
you can tell it feels scary because i don't know how much that helmet's normally in the
have you seen how high they normally are yeah he gets crazy in the clouds normally yeah it's it's
crazy imagine seeing this we shouldn't we shouldn't be showing this magnus because we're
gonna see a video in like three months yeah he's just calculating right now i do think one of the
things that you can have is uh being a magnus mitbo cameraman because you force them to do what you're
doing i do not force them i have one of my guys he is the one proposing all the stuff so he's the
sicko trying to get you to do it too sam yeah he he wants to do oh he joins you you don't hire new
people he joins me yeah yeah so he he was the one who suggested the caving stuff and people are
always in the comments they feel really bad for him but it's him forcing me down the cave not
yeah the other way around so sam back there the camera
there's a gun next to it keep going you keep walking we don't have enough shots yet
is there a big thing you've wanted to do that you haven't worked up like the courage to do
um yeah there's i mean there's many things um i don't know what i can talk about though um
ah you can leak one no one watches this show but you can you can talk about it all we can cut it
all we can bleep it if there's one special one but i mean talking about flying things i have i
have a friend of mine did the um that was for a tv show where you fill up balloons you know with gas
and then until you fill up enough so that until i can lift you you lift you and then you have like
a soft gun or something and you start shooting uh to descend to descend that would be pretty
that's fun that's i show speed did that once i don't know if it's fake okay but he did it
right how how far up did he go maybe five feet not far because because this guy was going up like
a few thousand meters oh that's crazy what if it happens if you hit a triple
collateral and then you fall too fast parachute i think you had a parachute contingency he's got
he shouldn't have a parachute but then you have to swim away from the balloon debris
yeah shoot can how do you how do you put oh you attach the balloons you shoot them no but like
okay let's say you can't shoot all of them at once there's no no yeah yeah you have to shoot
one at a time until you like slowly start if you shoot too many and go too fast and you're
in trouble it's a fun mini game i mean this is in mario party uh okay
obviously you had the injury which i was sad to hear about and i know it's probably like the
worst thing to happen to you specifically because your life is built around doing athletic stuff
and you're being foolish can i tell you i was a little upset yeah because you were
rock climbing on your injury right young man with one hand though i wasn't using the other one it
feels like it feels like when the doctor says take it easy it doesn't mean just with this hand
the thing is i saw one comment saying that you should use it a little bit it's gonna
heal faster that's the one comment that allows you to use it it'll heal that's that's all i need
literally opposite what every doctor will tell you ever yeah but like stimulate it that's what
he would say so um i took his advice i chose his advice every every rock climber climbs on their
injury this is our friend fell like 16 feet outdoors and like broke his entire leg and he
was climbing on the boot yeah but this is different because it's also like it inhibits you from doing
your job so i don't know how
how how weird has it been what do you what do you what are you doing now uh have you found video
games yet no i haven't i mean it's hard with the thumb i guess too um but uh no we've been like
exploring places that's like the thing i can do right now recon yeah reconnaissance we go to
places um that's the next few videos we're gonna make it's like going to places paris um yeah like
the catacombs video oh okay actually that video we have done that already so but we
went to yeah croatia recently uh there's a lot of like x like military bunkers in the mountains
like weird stuff um but stuff like that it's like non it's not physical you should become a ghost
hunter we actually fight soviet ghosts in croatia that's one of the things we actually did
that's it dude you see the similarities that ape in that gymnasium is getting sucked off by a ghost
they actually their eyes are looking the same direction and they have the same eye
thank you zipper who put this on the screen that's a producer zipper back there yeah it's
the magic tv ghost yeah the soviet ghosts wanted to see what you look like yeah no but we went to
like uh an old yugoslavian thing uh supposed to be haunted okay i'm gonna spend the night there
uh x person um and i think it's interesting from because i don't believe in ghosts um usually the
people who go ghost hunting believe in it you know it's more interesting to watch someone who
doesn't believe in it uh would you kind of just stand around the whole time be like
this sucks ah fuck well yeah typical norwegian i don't want to do too much but it is now the
typical norwegian i think there's something like 50 50 of the norwegian population believe
in ghosts oh i think it's swedish uh it's probably the same as well definitely believe in ghosts in
sweden yep so a bit of a superstitious realm yeah up north but it's also like a very like
atheistic country is yeah it is so it's weird so like no religion but yes ghosts because they're
they they feel a chill it's just fucking cold outside i don't believe in magic you're telling
me this it mad yeah no not in real magical powers can you maybe touch the staff that he's holding i
want you to touch this and i want you to see if you still believe in magic you can just touch it
okay is it uh it's not like i electrocuted well it might it's like he's worried about the other
hand yeah okay nothing you don't feel any sort of no interesting okay okay liar let me do you
believe do you believe in aliens
uh i'm indifferent i mean there might be something out there uh and it might be something different
than than aliens too it could be robots that are fixing the simulation that we're living in if we
live in a simulation you know it could be something completely different than aliens too i'm indifferent
to the simulation because you could never prove or disprove it i'm more interested in aliens well
you guys know about the great filter right what's the great filter the great filter is a concept in
science and theory and implying that because there's so many planets and so many possible
possibilities of life everywhere right that eventually we should have been met with
extraterrestrial life but the filter of space travel stops that from happening
so we will never know because statistically it should have happened by now right and that
filter stops us obviously and stops any extraterrestrial life from happening as well
so i believe in the great filter which is kind of a sad end to it all right we just end up dying in
the dark
of the of the night what if what if we get good at space travel we could and then we break the
filter like turn the fucking atmosphere of space into fuel and then it's like cool infinite fucking
travel right so i'm gonna sound so smart in 5 000 the idea is that someone would have figured this
out already in the universe yeah yeah yeah but it hasn't really happened they didn't figure out germ
theory until 100 years ago i know and that's only a hundred years and and now we have tesla roadsters
deck flipping rocket league in real life epic means that's like one of the most popular cars in norway
now tesla
Yeah, they're everywhere.
Norway?
Electric cars in general.
What do you drive?
I have a Taycan.
Okay.
A Titan.
I thought you said a Taycan, and I was like, girl.
Oh, Taycan.
Oh, you're a Porsche.
Yeah, I mean, a lot of people don't consider an electric Porsche a real Porsche.
Oh, that car is sick.
You got the sunroof that's all.
Because it was funny, the shot of you driving up to the random place in Norway,
and there's just a Porsche there, and then you're just leaving it.
Yeah, it's nothing special in Norway.
Honestly, that car is nice.
I used to have V8s, you know, gasoline.
American muscle.
Yeah, and now I also recently got a motorcycle.
Okay.
I'm really into that.
Oh, you're like him.
You do want to die.
Yeah, we were thinking about doing a video on, have you seen Isle of Man?
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, yeah.
So it would be fun to do something on that.
That is probably the most dangerous thing you can do, that race.
Isle of Man?
Or is it motorcycle driving?
Isle of Man.
Can you explain it?
Isle of Man is like this island in the UK where they race every year.
I think someone, statistically, one person dies every year, right?
Or every race.
It's something high.
Is it a motorcycle race?
Yeah.
And they're super, it's not on a racetrack.
It's through like a village.
Yeah, there you go.
Oh, okay.
So you go from Ramsey down to Douglas,
and then over there.
And then over to Peel, and then back up to Ramsey.
Can you find like GoPro footage ever?
Yeah, you should also, like when they fly by,
like people standing and they come so fast,
and there are like fences and like obstacles,
and like, because this is not a racetrack, you know?
So if you crash, you most likely die.
Oh my gosh.
What is the tradition?
Sorry, sorry.
And we started this conversation because you said you're trying to do this?
No, no.
I mean, I might, but I'm not going to go fast.
You want to do the trail, but maybe not in the race.
I reached out to one of the winners.
Dude, hold my hand.
Oh my God.
No, but this is not, he's not going that fast now.
Oh yeah, now we're picking up speed.
Now we're getting a little bit closer.
Yeah.
Yeah, that, I mean, you are right that the,
Oh, he just got in, he just lifted.
Yeah, that's a bit of air.
The closest I've been to dying probably was driving my motorcycle in China.
I witnessed several accidents just along the ride.
Dude, it's like a, it's like that one guy.
That's too fast.
The video of the guy driving and he's rapping and out his window.
Have you seen, you know what I'm talking about?
No.
Zipper guy driving super fast and rapping.
Trust me, it's worth, it's worth looking up.
You'll find it immediately.
Well, yeah, that's probably the most dangerous sport you can do.
Yeah.
But yeah, I, so yeah, I, I have a motorcycle now and I ride it.
I mean, the season in Norway is like two weeks a year.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
No, no, I mean, it's, it's like six months.
I have a question.
I have a question.
Yeah, this is me on the Isle of Man.
Look how fucking fast this guy's going.
Jesus Christ.
And he's holding the rope.
He's holding the rope, dude.
There's a blur behind him.
Just the cameraman being like, you don't have to look.
It's all right.
You can look forward.
Well, it's a self-driving car though, isn't it?
What is your, what does your algorithm look like?
Who do you watch?
I watch less and less YouTube, to be completely honest.
Who did you used to watch then?
What did you consume?
I consumed like daily, like Casey Neistat I used to watch.
That's how I got into YouTube.
And I started, I started too with like trying to do like,
daily vlogs or whatever.
Back when that was popular and YouTube,
the algorithm would favor just high frequency.
The more you uploaded, the more YouTube would push you.
But yeah, so that's what I watch.
And then I watch videos just for inspiration.
Just a lot of, yeah.
It's work.
This is like, yeah, it is work for you.
So what's the pleasure?
The pleasure in what?
Pleasure in yourself.
What are your pleasures you have for yourself?
What are your, what are your vices?
Are you, you don't seem someone to just be someone who indulges on maybe like scrolling.
Yeah, I try not to.
You don't seem to overindulge on food.
Yeah, no.
No video games.
I don't think.
Not even a phone chess.
You're not, he's not a gamer.
Cause I once had to explain how you beat Minecraft.
Can, and real quick on that note, can you try to tell me back?
I don't know if you remember it.
What Minecraft?
How to beat Minecraft.
No, I don't remember that at all.
Try, try as hard as you can.
Do your best.
Guess.
To beat Minecraft.
Yeah, what would you need to do?
So, in Minecraft, you have to build stuff, right?
Right.
And then you. Go under your head.
Go under your head.
You have to describe it, and you have to describe how to beat Minecraft.
Yeah, I would die then.
No, because I remember it being like super complicated.
Like, it's not what I thought it was at all.
No.
That's the only thing I remember.
Yeah, you need to, you need to get the ender pearls to get the ender crystals.
So, open the end portal to kill the ender dragon.
That is so. Yeah, dude.
It literally has end in it like four times.
Yeah.
It is popular, you know?
It doesn't sound fun at all.
I guess.
500 million copies.
Okay.
Whoa, whoa.
Is something wrong?
No, I'm just ready to go.
We're going.
You're ready to go?
We're going.
Well, we're going.
I've been awake for 74 hours.
That's a long time.
Why?
Because I don't know how to lie down comfortably in this suit, and I don't want to take it
off because I'm getting a lot of cold.
Yeah, I mean, you do look great in it, but you have to sleep eventually.
I don't have to.
I can just be up.
It's okay.
I don't think you should be up.
I think it's an option that people haven't considered.
I don't think the suit's the problem.
Don't you still have that bed that's also a suit?
No, it's just, it's like, it's from Oogie Boogie Bash.
It's a bunch of cockroaches stuffed into, like, sheets and these.
What if we, hey, hey, bud, what if we got you a mattress?
What if we got you a Helix Sleep mattress?
You could just keep the suit on, and we can get you a new mattress from Helix Sleep.
They have 20 unique mattresses, and guess what?
I know you have high standards.
It gets really hot in this suit.
I don't think it'll work.
You could do a sleep quiz, and you could answer a bunch of questions about how you want to
sleep.
You could even stay in the suit.
It gets really hot in the suit.
I don't think it'd be comfortable in there.
The mattress has cooling features to kind of respond to what you're saying.
I'm intrigued.
So you could take the sleep quiz.
I'm sure it'll recommend cooling features to you in particular.
You can get free shipping and seamless delivery and a 120-night sleep trial.
You could basically. What does that mean, 120 nights?
So you could sleep on the mattress for 120 nights, and if you don't like it, you can
just return it.
It's a lifetime warranty as well.
Can I do that and then do another trial?
And then. You could probably abuse the system.
You're asking if you could cycle Helix Sleep mattresses?
Can I daisy chain the mattress?
I think if you're willing to. I think if you're willing to be determined enough to do that, you probably could do that
every half a year.
I think Helix Sleep probably relies on the fact that someone determined enough to ship
a mattress back is probably not someone willing to abuse the system.
My money makes money.
Every second I'm awake, I'm making more money.
That's because of the suit?
I'm going to flip it.
Okay.
I'm going to flip the suit.
I'll sell you the suit.
I don't think you're supposed to flip a mattress.
I don't care.
It's a good deal.
I'll give you the suit.
You give me the mattress.
You could go to helixsleep.com slash the yard for 20% off site-wide.
Give me 25, I'll give you the suit.
Helix Sleep.
Helixsleep.com slash the yard for 20%.
It's not a negotiable.
You know what?
Leave it at 20 and I don't get the suit.
How about that trade?
Fine.
You may drive a hard fucking bargain.
Helixsleep.com slash the yard.
It's Grand Seiko.
Very complicated.
I want 20% off.
They deal.
Okay.
The Grand Seiko.
Guys, make some deals like that with your own life and your own sleep.
It's a very constricting suit.
Let's get back to the episode where Aiden's been replaced by a guy from Norwegia.
Shake my hand.
Okay, fine.
What's your favorite movie of all time?
Is it Casino Royale, James Bond?
No.
Why would you think that?
Mine.
Is it?
It could have been the same.
Is it. Let me try to think.
What is his favorite movie?
Is it some arthouse Norwegian thing?
It's a documentary, I bet.
I don't know.
I don't really. Another Round.
Another Round.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Yeah, Danish.
No, I liked. Midsommar.
I'm just kidding.
Not even Norwegian?
Not Norwegian.
What is your favorite movie?
What's your favorite movie?
I don't really have one.
What's one of your favorites?
Last one I really enjoyed.
I mean, I re-watched Forrest Gump.
Forrest Gump.
That was a classic.
Yeah, just a classic.
Okay, so it's not movies.
It's not food.
Is it alcohol?
That's what Norwegians do?
Yeah, I do drink.
People are surprised about that for some reason.
But yeah, no, I do maybe once a week or something I drink.
I enjoy.
And I also. I mean, alcohol makes me really creative as well.
I feel like. Yeah, I do.
I mean, it sounds like you're an alcoholic,
but yeah, I also work better.
Like one or two beers.
Honestly, you sound like a classical composer.
Do you have anything you overindulge in
that you feel like you shouldn't?
Is this turning into like a therapy session?
Yes.
No.
I'm trying to fix you.
Because I do have some. Yeah, like a snooze.
You know what snooze is.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, you guys are crazy with that too.
Because they go for like 20 milligrams and shit.
I know.
And yeah, now it's popular here too.
But I did it before it was popular.
I probably had my first snooze when I was 12 or something.
Oh, wow.
I didn't even know they had them back then.
Yeah, yeah.
They were cutting edge.
How did that happen?
Do you have like an older friend?
Yeah, I had an older friend.
We were in a climbing gym.
Because back then we had the keys to the climbing gym.
So we spent the night in the climbing gym alone,
like a group of friends.
Yeah.
And they were like five years older than me.
And they were like,
oh, do you want to try snooze?
So I did.
How did that. That must have put you on your ass.
I wanted to improve the trust.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You needed to be the gorilla.
Yeah, exactly.
So yeah, I took the snooze.
And yeah, no, I was just flat, laid out.
Dude, those Norwegian snooze, bro.
I wanted to vomit.
There's something else.
I tried a three milligram like a year ago
and I don't do any of this shit.
And I was like. But then I just like, yeah,
through my professional climbing,
I mean, snooze and coffee.
That was like my. Very unhealthy, by the way.
I do not recommend that to anyone else.
But that was pretty much it.
I watched my diet.
You know, like while climbing?
No, not while, but right before and right after.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
And I still occasionally do snooze.
You know, I like nicotine and I think it is a healthier form of taking it than, I mean,
certainly smoking.
I'm with you.
I smoke cigarettes.
Oh.
Oops.
Only Chinese cigarettes.
I only smoke when I'm on my trips.
Okay.
I try not to smoke here.
That's my rule.
But when I go to China, I don't know if you've been to China.
I have.
You have to smoke there.
Yeah.
They give it to you.
Right.
You walk up, a Chinese man comes up to you, gives you a cigarette, and I don't want to
be rude.
Exactly.
And also, I mean, I haven't been to China in like 15 years, but I remember back then
the air was so polluted that it was like smoking.
Walking around was like smoking anyway.
They fixed it.
They fixed it now.
The air is good now.
Okay.
I think it was after the Olympics in 2008.
2008, yeah.
Oh, you were there for the Olympics.
No, before.
2005 was the first time I was there.
Were you an Olympian?
No, because I retired before climbing became Olympic.
Oh, you probably would have tried, right?
I would have tried, yeah.
But yeah, no.
I haven't.
Did you ever consider like Ninja Warrior?
I have tried Ninja Warrior.
Really?
Yeah.
But it's very specialized now.
So it's not like 10, 15 years ago, climbers would do really well at it.
But now they do it professionally.
You know, it's talking about Colts.
That's also one of them.
Ninja Warrior fitness cult.
Yeah.
You like maximize all parts of your body.
Ninja Warrior is a cult for sure.
Really?
Because it's such a weird discipline that was just, it's like arbitrary, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so they're all mastering this super arbitrary discipline for the chance of like TV, really.
Yeah, to compete on the TV show.
And the TV show is not really all about who's the best either.
It's like who has the best story.
That's almost more important for the show.
Yeah.
So if you have some sob story about. I don't know.
Yeah, whatever.
Then you're more likely to get on.
I just think it's kind of a dying show.
Yeah, I think so too.
So it's like, it's a bit of a sad discipline in that, right?
But it seems fun.
I'll say that.
Yeah.
But then now, I think it's called not OCD, but OCR, obstacle course race.
That's like the, that's the sport they're doing.
So Ninja Warrior is the TV show, but they're doing OCR.
For what?
Like the professional scene?
That's the sport, the name of the sport.
It's like professional tag.
It's like you turn something fun.
You can do a sport.
It's kind of like e-sports.
Honestly, you should get on that, by the way.
Professional tag.
You'd be so good at that.
It's a lot of bars.
It looks like old Windows screensavers.
Yeah, it's like parkour.
It's definitely parkour, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I guess it is mostly parkour.
A lot of like hurtling and jumping through and like crawling.
Okay.
Just climbing up higher and then looking down.
Can't reach me anymore.
So you, if you never like tried at YouTube, because it sounds like what you've done is
you've taken the thing you love and turned it into like something that you can make money
doing, right?
But if you didn't do that, how do you make money being a climber without doing that?
Sponsors.
Okay.
So promoting brands.
That's how I used to make a living, you know, like just, but that was before social media
even.
So it'd be, you would rely on mainstream media.
So getting like magazine covers would be super important, stuff like that.
But then, so I think it's good with social media, you know, like now I'm my own boss.
I can do whatever I want.
And also, but the thing is that a lot of athletes complain because now, nowadays it's not the
best athletes don't necessarily get the best sponsorships.
It's about the package, you know?
So I guess that's a little bit sad in a way.
Yeah.
I mean, Shohei is not the best athlete at all, even a little bit because the Dodgers
are out, but he is insane.
We're going to bench Shohei, I think, actually.
Stuff like that.
I mean, he's unable to keep playing for the rest of the season, which is just unfortunate
because he's also not the best athlete.
So yeah, is what it is.
But that used to be more fair, I guess, where the best athletes would get the best sponsorships
and that has changed.
So, but yeah, that's how I used to make a living.
Did you ever attempt Burden of Dreams?
No.
Did you ever consider it?
No, that's too hard for me right now.
It sounds like a Disneyland ride.
Replicas.
It's an outdoor climb.
It's like, what, four people have done it or something?
No, it's more like six, I think.
But yeah, it was for a very long time.
It was the first 9A.
So 9A is grade in bouldering or V17 in American grading.
Oh, it goes high.
It's very high.
I peaked at five.
If I did like a V12, you'd be like, oh my God, you're like an elite athlete.
Oh, and it's five more than that.
Yeah.
And each, it's exponential.
It's like the jump from each of those is pretty large.
Wow.
And the cool thing too is that the guy who did the first ascent just vanished.
No one has heard from him since.
The guy who did it, he wasn't even like one of the best climbers in the world necessarily.
He just like.
No, he was pretty good.
He had mainlined that.
That climb though, right?
Wait, what do you mean he disappeared?
He just, I mean, he had social media, he had sponsors, everything, but no one's heard from
him since then.
Like, like he did it and then he's just gone?
Yeah.
Kind of like, I'm happy, you know, I retire now and no one's heard from him.
Living an offline life?
Yeah.
Find him.
Yeah, I know.
I, I've wanted to find him for a video, you know, be like more like a documentary.
It's like Bobby Fischer without the crazy shoes.
Without all the extra.
Well, maybe.
He has the craziest part.
Yeah, I vaguely remember.
Cause I watched the documentary.
I vaguely remember like the night that he did it was just like a practice session.
Like he just went and was like, I'm going to work on it.
And then just happened to do it.
Yeah.
Happened to be filming.
Wow.
But yeah.
So yeah, not, not a lot of people, but it was unrepeated for quite a few years.
Like no one, people tried to repeat it.
No one did.
But then the level now is just crazy.
So yeah, now there's a few people who've done it.
Even six is like, it's not that many, if it's how many climbers there are, I mean, people
have probably went and attempted.
Yeah.
I know it's like a seasonal climb too.
You have to like wait till summer or whatever.
Yeah.
The finish.
You're telling me the ingredients to be a successful climber magnate on YouTube sensation
is to be climbing since you were a teenager, 20 milligrams of snooze to your dome piece
every single day until you're 38.
Before and after.
And that's the solution.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
Okay.
It's probably just a crazy amount of like discipline early, like just dedicating yourself
to something early.
I'm not picking any of that up.
I feel like I named the two things.
You start early and you put them pouches in your mouth and you just shoot right up.
Do you have an iPhone?
Yeah.
Can I ask for two pieces of information on the iPhone?
Yeah.
I'm curious.
A, how many steps you walk a day?
Right.
I don't have the iPhone on me right now, but I can get it.
It's out in the. Yeah, you know, grab it.
We got time.
We got time.
We got to grab it.
I'm curious.
I want to see the, the, what apps he's on.
I'll come.
I'm clean.
I have mine.
I've walked 5,700 steps a day last month.
It's a good month for me.
Last month?
Yeah.
Over the last month.
I'm up a thousand steps a day.
I've been doing a lot of four mile runs to get mogged.
I have 7,000 steps a day.
Okay.
For the past month.
4,000.
Pathetic.
A good month for you is five, by the way.
5.7.
So then your normal is about where I'm at.
You're at four.
So the average. You're looking at this screen.
Average steps the last six months.
Is that what we're looking at?
Yeah.
Or month, whichever one's higher.
You can. So this week, it's 10,364.
Okay.
That's out of the week.
Traveling buff.
That's a traveling buff.
Sure, sure, sure.
Six months, it's 8,207.
That's pretty good.
That's pretty good.
You walk a lot.
What's your like?
That's pretty good.
That's good.
That's pretty good.
You walk every day?
Pretty much, yeah.
Yeah, I walk.
I prefer walking to any other. Wait, do you live in Norge now?
I live in Norge.
Okay.
I know a guy named Henke from Norway.
Okay.
He's cool.
If you ever meet him, say hi to Henke.
Hi, Henke.
Right, okay, I will, yeah.
Yeah, no, I live in Norway, and I live in Oslo, and I think when you live in a bigger
city, or at least European city, you walk a lot.
Yeah, that's a European buff.
Okay, I want the second.
This is the last thing.
I want to pull up your screen time.
Yep.
And just pull up. You got to be on that shit a decent amount, because you should probably check if your
video's one of 10 and blow your brains out if it isn't.
Okay.
Yep.
So I'm looking over the last week for my screen time, and you hit. See all app website activity.
Let's not do this.
Let's not do this.
I'm gross here.
I'm averaging seven hours, 40 minutes a day.
I was on TikTok 10 hours this week.
My most used app.
This week?
Yes.
Not the craziest.
And then my second is X, the everything app, and my third is Meets, Google Meets.
Wow.
Busy guy.
Wait, so what's your average for the week?
Seven hours, 40 minutes a day.
Ugh, I got you beat.
And you got eight and a half hours, bro.
Two hours, 24 minutes.
I watch a lot of Twitch.
For the last week?
Yeah.
I'm killing it right now.
Yeah, that's unbelievable.
Wow.
So if you're not walking, what are you doing?
Staring at the fucking wall?
About walking.
You're not walking, you're not on your phone.
What's your most used app?
Her name's League of Legends.
Her name is League of Legends.
That's what I'm doing.
So what do you got?
I don't know.
Wait, okay.
You got it?
Yep.
Okay, yeah.
It's four hours and 36 minutes.
Okay.
Four hours, 36 minutes, and then click. Most viewed app.
This one?
Yeah.
Most used?
Wow.
Instagram.
It's Instagram, but the second one is Mail.
Mail guy.
I'm checking your mail a lot.
Mail guy.
Yeah.
Mail's number two.
Wait, is it the default Apple Mail?
Yes, it's the default Apple Mail app.
I use it too.
People make fun of me for that.
You do?
Yeah, I do use it.
Wow, what are you, 60?
I've used it since the first iPhone.
I've always used it.
Yeah, you listen to that album that you two only came on your iPod too.
Google Maps is pretty high on the list too.
Yeah, Google Maps is like your sixth.
Because when I do all my steps, I'm like looking at Google Maps, you know?
Just staring out.
I'll say four hours is quite a long time.
a bit for a guy like you yeah but uh when i mean i'm on email i'm like writing emails your job is
on the phone i get it but i'm surprised that because i do scroll on tiktok once in a while
but it was not on the it wasn't even there no so once in a while to use probably once every couple
weeks is that an inspo scroll when you scroll tiktok if it's what is it for inspiration no it's
just to kill time really okay you know like if i yeah just brain dead uh i feel like time passes
really quick when i was scrolling um yeah i don't know what do you watch what's your algorithm on
on tiktok oh no no i got cumtism right no it's not that anymore i used to watch this guy named
his name is cumtism it's a mix of cum and autism he's a gambling youtuber i don't watch him as
much anymore i guess he doesn't watch him anymore he got bored of it this guy who's doing a bicycle
trip across kyrgyzstan and he's uh he's in pakistan he's going to kyrgyzstan from pakistan
and he's uh by a
bicycling across okay how have you seen how uh when is this going to come out by the way
uh like two weeks i was just wondering how fresh it is but have you seen ash dykes
the guy who's um traveling down the congo basin river no that's a crazy
what vehicle is he using he's using an inflatable uh boat like kind of the one i used um yeah but
the thing is they're hippos they're crocodiles there was a kayaker who got and it's 700 kilometers
away from kyrgyzstan in the middle of kyrgyzstan and it's so far away from kyrgyzstan it's so far
from any medical help do you look at this and you think man i do look at that i think i kind of want
to do this you should look at this and you should look at this and you should look at this and you
should look at his like instagram because he's like live streaming he has a starlink that he's
using to to live stream a lot of this stuff oh wow he's live streaming as well
but yeah no that's for me that's that's the most fascinating thing going on on social media these
days is this is kind of like low-key this guy doesn't get a lot of views but you're still like
this is yeah but he's tapped into this bigger on tiktok and instagram and recently everyone's
talking about him it's a thumbnail he's shirtless looking at a cheetah there's an
arrow point of the cheetah it says never seen humans
that is a good thumbnail okay so you do look at people sort of in do you consider this in your
sphere of youtube yeah what what is it called uh i would say exploration maybe people call it
survival but it's not so much when i think of survival i think of people like making fire
outdoor voices or something but this is more like
adventure discovery um adventure it's like some indiana jones shit yeah yeah except there's no
like golden idols to capture or anything like you're not searching for treasure you're searching
for treasure within your human spirit we might do that in the future never mind what does that
look like like geocaching or something or like real treasure hunting no real treasure if there's
like um there are yeah um some places where there's been they know that there's there's
treasures left oh and but they haven't found any yeah there's
a spanish ship that sunk off the coast of south america that has like a shit ton of gold that's
never been that seems like a like an old military lie that would just be left over like oh there's a
bunch of gold here you guys should all go look for it yeah dude okay video idea dream with me here
okay mr beast is inside a sarcophagus okay he's painted makeup a lot of this idea for
it's for youtubers mr beast he's inside a sarcophagus he's painted a lot of makeup on
it's close to brown face but whatever
so he's in it the teeth are white he has 30 days to live and 30 days of air and we all have to find
him and you have to find it's a great sir who's making the youtube is it mr beast everyone else
everyone else makes their own video trying to find mr mr beast's video himself because he's
buried himself live before his video is him trapped documenting his experience 30 days
with air he's getting fed and maybe the poop comes out of like a tube or so i don't know
and he's handing out daily clues based off what he can see
and i think it's very similar to a little there was an advertising stunt in norway like last month
uh where they did very similar thing they had like a glass cube and there was this girl stuck in it
and there was a camera live streaming everything and the first person to find uh the the thing
would get uh one million kroners which is like a hundred thousand yeah and she only had a week of
air she had infinite and she had to go outside to get like to go to the bathroom yeah but um
but it was in the middle of the wilderness yeah dude just like trees surrounding just in rainbow
just find this in minutes yeah you would think because they're like you can based on the weather
like when it rains what time yeah also the shadows and the sun and stuff like that but yeah eventually
i think it took someone like a week or something it took a week before she was found mr beast
emerging from the sarcophagus sickly a pharaoh's like crown he's got rubies fries
the brown face smudger is coming
that's crazy he made a video buried alive because on paper like it sounds cool but like
the concept is pretty boring he's just stuck yeah in the most small space without moving it's one of
the few mr beast shows i like i actually watch because i just don't watch they're not for me
but i was like i want to see a guy bury himself in the sand and then he did i was like this is
terrifying but how real is it i don't know i maybe i should have asked him i think it's real
i think it's i think it is real i think he used to do shit like that
when we when we went there it was kind of around the time i think the stuff was going up and i think
i asked either one of it one of his friends i was just like is all this shit real and they were like
yeah this is all very real because i just remember like watching his like survival uh escaping the
island video and i've done a similar video and then just magically there were like four barrels
there to make a raft those videos are dumb okay this is a new one because he has his new teeth
yeah uh no this is no that's guilty this is old teeth bro
no the buried alive ones are real i do think the escaping ones are like the bounty hunter ones
they're more like okay uh theater yeah um don't get me started on dweem bro yeah we do do not hey
what do we do not get we're not talking about dream with magnets so don't get me started no
dream is no i don't get me started he's he's a magnate really can i run through you're not very
familiar with the live streaming space i'm just gonna run through the idea okay do you know them
or not know them right okay dream no but i've heard the name but i've heard the name of the
game but i've heard the name of the game but i've heard the name of the game but i would never if i saw
like a face i would never be able to even the face reveal i don't think so okay um good xqc
no okay okay all right that's fine uh i gotta go bigger um i probably have seen their faces but i
show speed yes okay kaisenat i said that i've heard the name what see wow that's interesting
he had it you're like him you guys are the same yes okay wait wait wait wait squeaks
wait wait hold on northern lion northern lion yeah are you making things up no
wait okay based on that name what do you think northern lion looks like
uh northern lion uh i was it sounds like nordic that's why i was thinking he made it up because
it sounds like a nordic person like nordic lion yeah long flowing nordic of the americas
yeah long flowing hair maybe yeah yeah maybe like a wildlife yeah
he's a bald strategy streamer
he's very beloved yeah okay he is like your favorite streamer's favorite streamer i've
actually never seen that guy he's the goat wow so you ask a streamer like oh who do you watch
okay like 60 of them say probably northern i'm sure you have takes his mannerisms from
northern line come on man i'm mostly surprised you didn't know kaisenak because he's like crazy
like relative to the youtube world you know but pull his picture up i i probably have seen him
that's kai
yeah i've i probably see yeah he's i wouldn't like if i saw him on the street i wouldn't
recognize it yeah just walk straight past him because he's also taller on camera how about
jinxie jinx no okay so no it would be maybe moist critical you know just because it's pretty cool
oh my god wow wow so you basically the only live streamer you really know is i show speed this guy
yeah i know i show the magnet situation is crazy yeah he came to norway and had the
best time of his life and he got like uh swarmed and attacked basically and it was all over the news
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I only took the plane back.
No, no, no, no, no.
I took the boat there.
No planes were taken.
No islands were visited.
I took the plane to the back.
Sidebar.
Me and you.
Sidebar.
Can you name five live streamers, and Instagram does not count,
five Twitch or, I guess, Kik streamers?
Ludwig's a free square.
And Ludwig does not count?
No, it's a free square.
Give him a free square.
Okay, Ludwig's a free square.
Give him four.
Yeah, I mean, I have a Norwegian friend, Average Jonas.
Okay, Average Jonas.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I know him.
I know him.
Okay.
Great singer.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's it.
That's it.
That's where you list it.
Ludwig and Average Jonas.
Nico.
Wow.
Donk.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Magnus Carlsen streams sometimes.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah.
Have you met him?
I've met him, yeah.
He won, and we were both nominated for, like, best sports.
Best Magnus.
Like, yeah.
Wow.
2011, he obviously won.
Even though I'm not sure.
But it's a question of how you define chess.
Is it a sport, or is it not?
Yeah.
Well, the floor is yours.
Well, here's what I say.
Would you say, what is it if it's not a sport?
A game?
Yeah.
And it's not to take away anything from chess.
Is it a video game?
No, it's a game.
Even though, in competition, they play online a lot now?
Yeah, even then.
Poker, then.
Is that a sport?
Not a sport.
So, would you put chess where poker is?
Yeah, it's a game.
It's a game, dude.
I think this is all the same.
I think it tracks.
I think it tracks very well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If chess was in the Olympics, would you consider it a sport, or would you say they're putting
games in the Olympics?
Yeah, because then it's by definition.
Then someone else defined it, so it's not up to me anymore.
Then they win.
Then they win.
But it's a. But for now, we win.
The argument people make is that, well, is racing then a sport?
You know, like Formula One.
Is that a sport?
It's. They would claim that it's very physical, you know, their neck being super strong and
stuff.
I don't know how much of that is really true.
I think it's more skill-based and, like, having really fast reaction time.
Well, if racing isn't a sport, it doesn't feel like it's a game.
So, what do you call it?
Yeah, no.
I think racing is a sport.
Okay.
But that's the argument people who say that chess is also a sport.
They're going to say, well, if chess. Slippery slope argument.
Yeah, exactly.
You burn more calories in chess than in racing, maybe.
I don't know.
It seems like the only difference, really, is that, like, you. You occupy an area of space.
Like, in racing, you go somewhere.
In tennis, you are moving around a court.
Like, otherwise. I guess. Otherwise, you have to measure how physical something is, which I think is a bad way.
Sharpshooting.
I was going to say, that's an Olympic sport.
And it's very stationary.
Yeah.
That's a game to me.
Are you kidding me?
Sharpshooting?
That's what video games are based off of.
Okay, Magnus, dream with me for a moment.
Dream?
Dream with me.
Okay.
It's. We're 25 years in the future.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're hanging out.
We both have snus in.
We're drinking a little bit.
Are we in Sweden or Norway?
We're actually in Denmark, just coincidentally.
And what are you doing?
Because physically, at this point, you're not going to be going down the convo.
You've got a cane.
You're walking around.
You need assistance to go places.
What are you doing in your life?
Have you thought about this?
Yeah.
I mean, at some point, I want to have. Can I open my eyes now?
Yeah, you can open your eyes.
You can open your eyes.
While you're still dreaming.
I'm still dreaming.
I'm still dreaming.
Yeah, no, I want to have. I mean, I want to have kids one day, you know?
Okay, okay.
And I want them to be professional football players, or in soccer in the US, football.
You want them to be professional?
You want two Erling Hollands?
I want two Erling Hollands that I can kind of like go and watch and support and like
live through them a bit, you know?
If they're shit at football, do you keep pushing them?
Do you stop talking to them?
Yeah, but it's tough, you know?
Because if you push them too hard, they're just going to. It's not going to work.
They're going to become twitchers.
They're going to become streamers, really.
Let me ask you a question.
I don't know if you're prepared to answer.
Do you guys watch it, though?
The World Cup?
The World Cup?
The World Cup, yeah, of course.
Yeah, of course.
All right, so your child, little Erland, or whatever we named him.
Erland Henke.
Henke.
Your little Henke comes up to you, and he's six years into football.
He's a prospect.
He's looking really good.
Like colleges are looking at giving him D1, and even professional teams are already checking
him out, scouting him.
He's got it full.
He's a full, well-rounded athlete.
He comes to you one day, opens the door, and he's like,
Papa, I think I want to be a professional Counter-Strike player.
Me and my friends are all playing Counter-Strike.
We're really good.
I'm face at level 10.
I know you don't know what that means, Dad, but I'm going to try to explain it to you.
It's really good.
You've beat the Ender Dragon.
And we just scrimmed Donk's team.
Donk would now be in his 30s or something.
And we just beat Donk, who's like the best Counter-Strike player right now.
I want to pursue professional Counter-Strike.
What do you say?
How do you open?
Instant adoption.
Come on.
You put him up for adoption?
He's like 16.
No, I'm just kidding.
No, I would support that.
Honestly, I don't know if Counter-Strike in 25 years, do you think that it's still going
to be relevant?
It might be the only game that is.
Yeah, it might be one of the only.
It's like that in Deadlock.
It's quite time.
It's been around.
It's lasted 25 years already.
Yeah, I think that would be cool.
You know, that's, yeah.
But you want them to be excellent at something.
Yeah.
But I think, yeah, the thing about soccer,
it's so nice for the whole family, like, and you can travel around, you watch the game,
you know.
It's so funny.
If you became a pro soccer player, it'd be so nice for all of us.
I want my kid to be the best in the world at something that everyone in the world is
all trying to do.
The most popular sport of all time.
There are a few other sports that would be good as well, like tennis.
Oh, the other one.
What's the worst sport?
The worst sport.
Sharp shooting?
Yeah, sharp shooting.
Yeah, what's the worst?
And we realize, what is the worst, like, major sport?
I think the worst for spectators, and I would be looking at this from the point of view
of a spectator, I don't even know what it's called in English, but it's where you run
around in the woods, and you have to, you have a map, and you have coordinates, and
you have to get to different positions.
To basically, like. What's it in Norwegian?
Orientering.
Yeah, no, that didn't help.
I think it might be, it's not backpacking.
It's like rucksacking.
But it's competitive?
It is competitive.
I think it might even be Olympic.
It's like in David Goggin's book, that's where I read about it, is he does this, and you
have to go to, like, X, Y, Z points, and you can't cheat, and it's like basically a survival,
yeah, it's a horrible spectator.
You can't watch it.
No, you can't watch it.
You have to be at the finish line, you know, and you only see them.
Is there not something beautiful about a sport that can only be played, not observed?
Not if you're the dad trying to watch your kid cheat.
Yeah, true, true.
Dude, do you think, and this is my hypothetical,
hypothetical situation, if you were pit against, let's say, a sixth grader in basketball, American
basketball, do you, how do you think you, do you think you could beat the sixth grader
in a one-on-one?
Sixth grader?
Sixth grader is about 12 years old.
No, it's about 11 years old.
He's probably taller than me.
I'm only 5'8", so, and that's a huge advantage in basketball, you know, so yeah, probably
he could beat me.
A sixth grader can be like six foot four.
What if they're not?
What if they're five feet tall?
I mean, I don't have, I don't know.
I don't have any experience playing basketball, really.
So yeah, I think definitely they could beat me.
Bumble, bumble.
I just know in climbing, you know, a sixth grader can be as a good, as good as an adult.
At least fly up there.
Climbing is like chess, where children can humiliate you.
And in other sports, usually your body composition gives you the edge.
Chess is worse, by the way.
Is it worse?
But that's so weird because you would think that in chess, experience is super important,
you know, like building up like the. I just mean that like, I think it's free, I think it's freedom from. From like preconceived biases and like that's what children have.
Okay.
Because I think sometimes you grow quite stagnant.
And I don't know what the stat is, but like after six moves in chess, there's like a 99% chance.
After some certain amount of moves, you're like in a brand new game every time.
I don't remember what it is.
It's like after like a very small amount of moves, you would guess it's a lot larger.
Yes.
People are still playing new games.
Yes.
And I think that the child's mind is free.
They're freer in those moments than the adult's more conservative mind.
I mean to say that like, you know, a child being good at climbing is like, oh, a child's better at me than like standing on an egg and not breaking it.
It's like they're lighter.
They're so much lighter.
They have way less to pull up.
Their like ratio of strength to weight is like weight, is like built for a sport like that.
Chess, I'm just humiliated.
By the time they've reached nine, they have figured out an intellectual idea better than me, faster than me.
That's just humiliating.
Climbing, I understand.
This young man
human has never purchased gasoline
yet they wouldn't know how to pay their bills
yet I'm losing to them they've never
experienced heartbreak yet my
pieces are all gone it's
disgusting no they get an owie and they
cry and I lose to them
in an intellectual battle
the children are tough
yeah can you give me
an honest assessment of
Sweden as a country of Sweden
do they border each other I'm ignorant
yeah no honestly like
because I mean as you know I did the
video with PewDiePie yes and he
trash talked Norway a
bunch incessantly but
it's like the two countries
they actually like each other you
know like
but there's rivalry Sweden
is the bigger brother and Sweden
has done way better than Norway
throughout times and then Norway
found oil jackpot
you know became richer
little brother found a bag
and now that we're even better than you in
football that's that's hard because
yeah historically Sweden you've been
way better at football
Sweden was one of the big names when I was growing up
yeah they were good
yeah so yeah I think
that's that's hard for you guys you know
but no I can sympathize with
Sweden because you it's also
it is you have so many inventions
like Ikea Spotify
Volvo
H&M
H&M huh so many inventions
I mean
they're creative over there I don't know why
yeah
an S40 turbo it's an interesting
car they made interesting cars
and Koenigsegg is Swedish
as well I believe that's a super car
so yeah I mean I
really like Sweden
it's getting a little bit dangerous though
in certain areas I guess
yeah Sweden gets tough
it is like the
murder capital of Europe now
used to be Sweden is
used to belong to Marseille
and Napoli in Italy
yeah now it's
the Italians calmed down a bit
same with the French Marseille not so much
of a problem what is Norway's influence
you just named a bunch of stuff that I know
about as an American that Sweden
brought to us what is Norway brought
to to me the American the
idiot
well nothing really other
than like
oil fish like
yeah
yeah
the only
like invention and I'm
super embarrassed to say that but
like because Sweden has a lot of inventions
but the only cool
invention Norwegian inventions
are the paperclip which is completely
useless honestly
no you guys
we still use that it's quite simple
it's a lever system
and then it's the cheese slicer
a cheese slicer yeah
well that's really
that's our two
inventions
we know we don't have any big
companies like that
nothing have you ever thought about
trying to win the cheese rolling competition
yeah we've thought about that
the
like the whole country
we got together we thought
I knew you would know what that is and have thought
about it that's not in Norway
I know but that is new what is
a cheese rolling up so it's like a it's a competition
in the UK I think it's annual and
they roll cheese
down a hill and you have
everyone chases it down this very dangerous
rocky hill and people are just stumbling
over rolling over each other there's
always injuries and whoever grabs the
cheese went terrible injuries like at
the end you'll see bones sticking out
like mangled because you're running down
a hill as fast as they can is how many
contestants are taking too many too many
people there's heats like there's like
heat there's like heats of 50 and you
win and you win the cheese so is that is
that a sport or a game oh that's a sport
if you can break a bone doing it it's a
sport
yeah is it the same hill every time it's
like a famous hill for she for she's
rolling yeah dude look at that dude that's crazy
wow dude look watch so this is the guy
rolls the cheese cheese cheese boom and
there was like yeah I know about this
because there's a youtuber a youtuber who
went who just trained to beat it like to
win it right
exact ass up wasn't it how this guy is
catching air oh my god you know how you
have to catch air because you need to
maintain your speed right you have to
like when it when you fall you have to
like utilize that as speed forward that
guy's jack dude he's a star of the show I
feel like for many decades like they say
the IQ the world dropped because there
was lead in the cars I think they kept
the lead a little longer in the UK do
you think so I think the car developed a
cheese race for like 10 more years I had
a teacher who his theory was that all the
Vikings right they went to England and
they settled there while the farmers were
still left in Sweden and Norway if you go
to a pub in Norway and Sweden everyone's
but very civilized if you go to the UK
they're all hooligans you know beating
each other up it's because the Vikings
stayed in the UK DNA is stronger in the
UK than in Norway because that was the
nice because someone had to look after
the the kids and the women right the
thoughtful farmers thoughtful the quaint
they're fine not the brutish ale
drinking no Vikings those are now in
the UK yeah and they've shrunk they've
shrunk and gotten pulled and now like
Arsenal why is it Manchester yeah I
guess I mean some of the you know best
like the best chess players in Norwegian
the best some of the best athletes are
from the UK that is true and we're very
proud of that uh not only we also have
like um 5 000 meter 3 000 meter we have
the highest Olympic more uh winter goals
than any other nation yeah per capita
you guys create capital and Sweden is
twice as large like you're 10 million or
something yeah and we're five so whoa
is there like a presidential medal of
honor that you can get in Norway and how
close are you I I've gotten you can get
the king's uh what do you call it the
king's uh trophy the king's trophy yeah
if you're the best in your sport you get
uh the king's trophy yeah the king's
trophy and I have 13 of them it's made
out of real silver uh and it's like they
give it to the best person in each uh
sport how big is the king's trophy like
this big that's a big trophy you have a
single case in your home that's just for
the king's show yeah I have a lot of
silver at home um and uh do you have a
cabinet right now it's just stored in a
box but yeah I'm gonna go yeah bro number 13.
number 13. just toss it in the back he's
like ah another one I think there's only
one or two people who have more than me
and that's um it's a badminton player I
think okay badminton badminton yeah wow
whoa and so is there is there anything
above that can you trade them in for a
gold one I mean have you seen the the
price of silver is pretty high it's
pretty high yeah have you thought about
selling it all down I actually one big
king's trophy I actually uh in my chat to
the chat there's a I asked like how much
is one of those worth now um but it was
lower than I thought it was something
like I think 600 dollars per but 600
times 13. yeah so you got like you're
sitting on like seven thousand eight
hundred dollars I'll wait another few
decades maybe when my son plays
counter or what was it yeah in 25 years
you know I can melt this down for you
so get a little helmet I love that
getting 10 king's trophies you get a
free boba yeah you get one boba yeah yeah
stamp card you met the king yes there's
still a king yeah he died uh a month ago
though a month ago huge yeah did they
replace him it's been replaced by son
yeah the um the prince is now the um the
king the new king is it like uh is the
king is it like a is it like a political
figure or is it more of like a yeah he's
a political figure and he was uh loved I
mean he yeah um every people called him
like the norway's grandpa uh the
swedish king is different they don't
like the swedish king no he's he's been
on yachts and uh uh observed with like
prostitutes that's crazy wow
very symmetrical face very defined jaw
lie I can tell it is confusing that they
hate on the swedish king but they're not
not the norwegian king no but the
swedish king has been like I said it's
been a lot of controversy he gets laid
yeah I know I don't think if you're the
king of a nation in the modern era
you're allowed to have a three-way on a
yacht I don't think you should be allowed
to do that oh that's how you become the
king so he can have missionary in the
yacht you won't say anything front shots
with your queen on the yacht okay and
then you get off the yacht really fast
okay you don't you don't sail around yeah
your your norwegian mind has been
corrupted well we have a prince who's not so popular at all
well we have a prince who's not so popular at all he's like the least popular he's
popular he's like the least popular he's
popular he's like the least popular he's been accused of our I'm looking at oh my
been accused of our I'm looking at oh my
been accused of our I'm looking at oh my god oh okay what so does the does the
god oh okay what so does the does the
god oh okay what so does the does the royal lineage in Norway have like in the
royal lineage in Norway have like in the
royal lineage in Norway have like in the UK it's pretty much it's what do you
UK it's pretty much it's what do you
UK it's pretty much it's what do you call it it's like a formality yeah but
call it it's like a formality yeah but
call it it's like a formality yeah but really like Parliament kind of does the
whole thing. Is it like that in Norway? Or are they like. It is a formality. Yeah. Okay. It's a formality that we spend a lot of taxpayers on every year. So it's always a debate whether or not we should have a king. Right. Who does it go back to? Like UK's William the Conqueror? Who's the. I don't know. But I think it's like the Danish and the Swedish kings and they probably kept it within the. Kept in the family. The family a little bit. It is true that. throughout history i think they're more inbred um monarchs um we call them ib's okay it's like
the polite term for inbreds right my grandparents my grandparents are first cousins okay that makes
sense yeah yeah you're fat and i can tell you we're actually gonna drop you in the tier list
by the way yeah no so um i have one more i have one more climbing question uh you know how like
climbers get kind of party tricky with like stuff like oh i can do i can hang from two fingers what
was like what's like your peak climbing party trick like a one finger pull-up you can do a one
finger pull-up yeah i used to be able to do i think i did nine no from a sling so just like
from a piece of rope like one finger have you have you sought how many pull-ups you could do in a row
normal pull-ups yes yeah i mean back in the days i used to i could do like 60 in a row and that's
i know mark walberg said this but like with good form
and then you got called out uh he did i mean have you seen that video it's like a meme it looks bad
it's very hard for himself doing pull-ups yeah he said he claimed uh he could do what was it 60
and he said like clean once 60 clean and then they're like 60 fucking clean i don't know if
you're aware of mark walberg but he could have stopped 9-11 have you heard that he's gone on
record to say that if he were on one of the planes it would have gone down differently okay he said
on the chair list that you complained about he was on the list you got to complain about i was
the bottom one i was below mr b you made the list you had to make the list you collabed with him
honestly yeah i mean um it was more based on fame yeah yeah it's all right but uh
happy to be on the list yeah no but yeah i could uh i have done 60 clean ones in the past 23
23 clean my record i watched him 23 clean and they were very clean they were not that clean
very clean at the end they weren't getting clean but i was still very impressed by you 23 clean
tom brady that picture of you with the laptop i couldn't believe that man did 23 tom brady cannot
do 23 clean tom brady is a beast of a man and he is in love with his son it doesn't matter he's not
in love with his son he's too heavy though isn't he yeah i'm still on you do a one finger pull-up
yeah many like nine you can do nine ones in a row that's crazy bro that's literally crazy that's
fucking awesome it's not as hard as you think the thing is that like hanging
from a sling with one finger is hard uh doing a one-arm pull-up is hard but combining the two
doesn't make it that much harder yeah i guess that makes sense getting the discipline to be
able to do this is the harder part probably yeah and this is as long as you can hang from one finger
for let's say 30 seconds you know it's not the hard part of one-arm pull-up i feel like is the
core like the like the rotational part of it like it's hard to stay straight yeah yeah yeah
um but yeah how many millimeters can you hang from
uh i mean right now not so much but uh i think like six four that's so crazy that's like a credit
card that's not a lot that's so fucking crazy um okay magnus we're out of time um two final
thoughts first are you cut or uncut we asked every guest on the show that question uncut okay great
second question uh geez okay anything you want to shout out or uh
shout out or say you want people to know about um nothing in particular no uh i mean yeah check
out my youtube channel i guess um check out that video where you're getting sucked off by a by a
soviet ghost in the hospital and you're gonna see a view bump you're gonna notice after this
you're gonna see a yard view bump we're gonna send quite a lot of you wait that guy he's with
the two guys that were in the lamborghini testing all the fries it might i recommend try some fries
uh all right y'all that's it we're gonna go to the premium episode where it's just gonna be these
two and they're actually doing another thing where they go into a car what was what were you gonna try
next it was wings oh yeah i think it was oh no chicken karaage we were gonna try all the chicken
karaage and but we're including the sour patch kids wings coming to wingstop yep that should
count as karaage yeah okay all right goodbye forever
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The host challenges a doctor's claim of having a 0% body fat son, calling it medically impossible and suspicious.
The host reflects on their own body composition, estimating a BMI of 27 and body fat around 14%, emphasizing that body fat is more meaningful than BMI.
A viral video comparing fitness levels reveals inconsistencies, with the host being ranked below elite athletes like Mark Wahlberg despite having unmatched endurance.
The discussion highlights the differing values of strength versus endurance in fitness assessments, with the host noting that someone with the highest VO2 max is still ranked lower due to strength limitations.
Rock climbing is described as a cult-like activity driven by social competition and the desire to push limits, often leading to injury.
The host expresses a shift from rock climbing to more extreme, high-risk physical feats like cave diving and motorcycle riding, which now generate more views and engagement.
The conversation touches on personal fears, preparation, and the psychological thrill of danger, noting that filming increases courage and that some activities are done for audience impact rather than pure risk.
The host admits to reckless behavior, such as free soloing and dangerous travel, while expressing a deep connection to physical challenges and a belief in the “great filter” of space travel as a potential future solution to humanity’s isolation.
Summary:
The conversation centers on fitness, risk, and identity, with the host reflecting on body composition, health, and the evolution of their personal brand. Initially debating a controversial claim about a doctor’s 0% body fat son, the host shifts focus to their own physical state, estimating a BMI of 27 and body fat around 14%. They critique fitness rankings that undervalue endurance, noting that someone with the world’s highest VO2 max is still ranked below others due to strength disparities.
Rock climbing is described as a cult-like pursuit driven by social competition and the desire to push limits, often resulting in injury. The host has since moved away from climbing toward more extreme, high-risk physical challenges—such as cave diving and motorcycle riding—many of which generate greater engagement and views. These activities are framed not just as physical feats but as psychological and emotional experiences, fueled by fear, preparation, and audience impact.
The host acknowledges personal risks, including injury and near-death moments, and discusses how filming amplifies courage. A deeper theme emerges around the human need for adventure, with references to mortality, the "great filter" of space travel, and the appeal of dangerous, unstructured physical challenges. Ultimately, the host sees themselves not as a climber, but as a modern explorer of physical extremes, blending risk, storytelling, and personal growth into a unique content identity.
FAQs
The speaker estimates their BMI to be around 27 and body fat around 14%, though they note that body fat is more important than BMI and that 0% body fat is impossible.
Yes, the doctor claimed his son has 0% body fat, which the speaker disputes as impossible and likely false, calling it a lie.
The speaker finds the tier list misleading, noting it's based on collaborations and not actual fitness, and points out inconsistencies like Mark Wahlberg being ranked below someone with the highest VO2 max.
Yes, the speaker says they are pretty close to their fitness peak and feel strong in terms of endurance and overall fitness despite past injuries.
The speaker believes rock climbing is a 'cult' where the focus on completion and performance can lead to overexertion, and people who only climb without other exercise are more prone to injury.
The speaker does A/B testing for thumbnails and balances creative desire with view count, noting that videos like cave diving, though risky, gain more views and are more engaging than climbing content.
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