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Ep. 257 - The Greatest Underdog Story in Esports

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Ep. 257 - The Greatest Underdog Story in Esports

The transcript captures a casual, lengthy conversation among friends, likely on a podcast, centered on their experiences at EVO and a high-profile show match. Ludwig reflects on his victory over Tyler1, where he used a fake "JP" strategy to exploit Tyler's lack of matchup knowledge. Despite winning, Ludwig feels remorse, describing himself as a "villain" who wasted Tyler's time and humiliated a likable opponent, even comparing the situation to a general bringing a gun to a sword fight. His co-hosts push back, arguing Tyler's playstyle—using modern controls and a defensive Guile—deserved to be punished, and that Ludwig's guilt is misplaced. The discussion expands to FGC culture, with Ludwig's on-stage banter about giving Street Fighter views sparking more Twitter discourse than the actual tournament winners, like a player going undefeated in Rivals. They also share chaotic Vegas stories, including gambling losses at craps and blackjack, a bizarre Uber ride with a conspiracy theorist driver, and a Texas bar encounter with a cowboy who mistakenly thinks Hong Kong is a Tijuana sex club. Philosophical debates arise about magic tricks—whether understanding how they work ruins amazement—and character choices in fighting games as reflections of personality. The episode blends humor, self-reflection, and gaming analysis, ending with a sponsored segment for Helix Sleep after a joke about Nick's mattress breaking.

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[music] We are the fucking champions My fucking friends We are the fucking champions We are the champions We are the champions What are we doing? What are you talking about? When you are a victorious victor and I've also involved a little bit. You spit on them You spit on the blue bubbles on it You spit on the blue bubbles on it I was looking on Twitter and I was seeing lots of people say I was wrong Mark was my apology card Mark even pre-apologized He tweeted the first round of the first game And said I saw Ludwig Perry the first sonic boom And I stood up in my room Not a period Perfect Perry A perfect period And then you keep moving That's a lot harder to do Oh my broski filled out the apology form He wasn't really hating But he knows when to apologize And that was very nice of him Yes, dude I looked in the video and you're like my my father in the background I'm dead centering my carelessly through me You're doing great sweet I talked to Nick after in his voice comment What happened to your voice? He said I was yelling I walked in a little and he's like what happened to your voice? And I'm like you stole it You stole it with your victory There's this bar in K-town in LA called Chi Chi It's a pretty fun place And I'm there with Alex Yabasta And Daniel J And his fiance And Daniel J is a like a big fighting game T.O. Runs the biggest fighting game local in LA We have it propped up on the table And the bar is like packed with people And we're just every time you take around We like scream at the table It was it was awesome They're watching like the World Cup Looking over like there's not a World Cup match going on You should ask the bar it's just one TV What do you want? Do you play any games against people? Yeah we did That's the novelty of Chi Chi's is they have like little iPads And you can play against other tables and wager alcohol Oh it's like a plane Yes Except you can wager with sticks But you put your credit card in and it's like it auto buys it you lose You play some weird version of hungry hungry hippos for example And then if you lose You like they get a bottle of alcohol and it just goes on your tab Wow I like that They should do that on planes They should do it on planes Imagine you win a business class seat from a guy I wager business losing its objective Yeah I mean you've just wagered You have to swap midfly I love that It's the attendance like sir You have to get up You wagered it This is fucking bullshit There's a fucking lag on the monitor You wagered it sir Yup If guy when I get your bitch too And the breakfast that you were Can I gamble my wife? I like to gamble my bitch breakfast She doesn't need it She doesn't have anything left Dude you bitch Tyler one bro Tyler one got bitch Can you hear me? Can we say that? Can we say that you got bitch? Can you say that you laid a trap? And they said Tyler one What do you have to say the past in the mic? And he went Oh my god he started Oh my god he started I don't know I don't know But Brad is full But Brad is full But Brad is full But Brad is full But Brad is full No it's not No it's not They're called on Tyler zero Oh they're called on Tyler Can I tell you James Chan? Can I say some deeply personal? Please Of course I don't feel good about it Come on I don't feel good about it Here we go I sense it in you I don't want to wear the change Even though I am the champion I don't feel good I kind of realized when I was up on that stage I felt like one of the Christian monasteries traveling to Japan to spread Christianity And then I realized Maybe I'm the villain You're the bad guy I'm the bad guy Wow I think I'm the bad guy I'll say it No Why do you think that? Because I think I like Tyler He's a good guy And I did him dirty And you ended his career And you didn't Okay here's And I I tend to read him on stage at evil I couldn't adapt to your fucking birthday game Here's what he didn't do him dirty Safe jump He just didn't know what that was I agree with you He just didn't know Tyler won You don't know what a safe jump is I agree with you But I think the J.P. was too far Maybe I think the J.P. was too far It was beautiful It was beautiful It was like There was a collective It was like we made the F.G.C. believe David Getta was a Robox YouTuber That's what I think I can do I think I can do without the fake leaked J.P. I think that was a step too far I don't think it would have made a difference I think it's fine I don't think it would have made a difference And that's why it was a step too far as well I think Because I think what happened is he spent 20 hours grinding J.P. And I look Okay, Tyler likes to say that I had a coach And I had someone hired to watch all of his vods I was the guy who watched all of his vods Yeah, we just watched Tyler is very entertaining Tyler was on the TV And the office like it was the World Cup I feel like the day on Portuguese who came to America Really And we're there to pillage You're the white Spanish Yes And the white Spanish are there to pillage And we're pillaging And then at a certain point I'm looking at Pocahontas And I feel like you're so beautiful And I'm thinking she's beautiful She's beautiful, man I'm doing something wrong Why am I doing this, Tyler? Tyler, what is your Pocahontas? She's beautiful And you're on the white Spanish And now you have to marry her I'm pillaging her No, I think this is I think that I think I think I think I'm the bad guy I believe it We were talking about it I think you're a little bit of the bad guy But it's like real fighting in players Do you say this for Nationals? Digo did this? Everyone does this? Again It's the J.P. That was too far You think so? Yeah, I think that was too far What does it say? What does Sun-Zoo say? Do you spoke to him? And I literally thought about this I literally thought about the Sun-Zoo would say who gives a fuck? You fucking won the war and you want it fast? And that's what I care about? Sun-Zoo is your wife and children are safe now But I don't think Sun-Zoo ever considers if he's the good guy after winning the war War is complicated and messy and horrible but sometimes you have to win it Unless you get bitched on stage Sun-Zoo cares about how you get bitched Sun-Zoo cares about how you win the war Not really Yeah, that's like his main thing It's like how you win the war or excuse me, sorry How to win a war Yeah Sun-Zoo is the zeros and ones The war was won, it's the ones He's the Aiden of this Didn't you complete a beautiful, beautiful, artistic tapestry Of wasting the man who blocks and won and dones and plays modern? Yes His animalistic playstyle He blocks in the corner like a dog and you blocked him What I did is I held him up like a dog by the scruff and he said now everyone gets to laugh at him But then when I fucking put that dog down I fucking like that dog and I don't think the dog deserves that The dog got paid Yeah man, the dog I don't care, the dog also got paid I don't care at all Wait, yeah, but it was like Yeah, yeah, we put down the dog at the vet We don't pay the pit bull It's a very humble sum from the Saudis just to be fair I was talking about this game That's a crazy part about all of this You don't got paid Came with a handwritten note from MBS They only paid me like 750K It was a poultry sum If you would so, if you would so overlook our murder of Jamal Khashoggi Yeah, when we turn them into a luncheable If you will And consider a break-assness Consider a performance and one is an Oreo Consider it overlooked but for this poultry sum That's it For 750, what do I do with this? If 750,000 I gamble most of that Let me ask you a question If it was a 10-9 And would you feel the way you feel? Probably not, right? Well, the fact that you fucking pitched him generally No, I think I would still feel this way Because I actually don't think it's a matter of words Because I still think I would have crushed 10, 4, 10, 5 Had I not liked the JP I don't think it would have changed the outcome I probably said what about an even 10-3 I think it would have changed Is that Tyler would have spent less time grinding against JP And I think I wasted his time Which I feel about him I think I understand that Because he's got kids I think I see where you're coming from He was grinding two streams a day I mean, he's got kids coming He died when you were back I murdered him back This is you I murdered a father Who cared? Because he definitely would have been tossing the fucking football With his daughter If he didn't have to grind JP that day Really? - He wouldn't put an up against him in the top lane. Wanting to kill himself to like everybody else. - I'm saying, I think the result would've been the same, but it would've wasted less of his time. - I think, my plan worked too well. - I think you're saying this because you have this weird compassion in your heart. But dude, here's how I know you didn't play enough street fighter, because what Tyler stands for needs to be defeated. - When he stands for on the summoner's rift. - I disagree with that, and I said this on stage, like I basically stand as a beacon having defeated Tyler, and now I feel like I have a bunch of fucking neo-naughts he's coming around me, and I'm like, I don't want these people. - I got my tiki towards next to you. - Yes, you're like, I need to be-- - You're a Charlottesville resident. - Yes. - That's my guy. - No, I'll vote for Ludwig. - I'll vote for Ludwig. - And I'm looking around, I don't want these people. That's not what I say. - Love it does what it takes. - I don't like that I'm the neo-naughts here in this field. - You're the neo-naughts. - You know what, I don't-- - Modern Guile doesn't have to burn his down charge. I don't want to hear shit. If he wants to flash kick, that's all he has to do. It doesn't burn down. - Tortoise in the hair. - Classic situation, man. No, he just, he plays like he's watching TikToks. You methodical strategy, strategy. - Classic, if you will. - The thing is, the modern, floppy, I just want one thing and it's disgusting. - They get on the mic in between rounds. You hear the TikTok. - Wow. - Modern player. - Oh my god. - Modern player on Valorant. - Any game really? - Mm-hmm. - That's what it's like. - You punished him for what he is. - No, but I punished him time wise with the JP. I still, I will never not feel bad. - Fine. - I mean, that's-- - I tell no joy after you saw it. - That's between you and Jesus Christ. - But-- - You saw it after the lack of light in my eyes. - I could tell. I could tell it didn't feel that amazing to you. I saw it and I didn't want to ruin your moment. - I literally felt like a fucking general who brought a gun to a sword fight. Shot somebody in the face. And then, and then, and then you don't, you're not like fuck yeah. - And you know who's fucking cool in that scene? Indiana Jones, the timeless scene. - There's an, there's an aspect of this. Me and Nick were talking about. It's like, it's, it's, it's kind of made all better by the fact that you were so counted out for so long by so many people. It's like, if you, if people were like, yeah, Ludwig and Tyler just grinding and grinding and grinding, but it's like, everyone thought you were just like jacking off. - Yeah. - That kind of makes it come out and it's like, oh really, you thought bit. - I grew with all parts of the plan 'cause I, I, I agreed to it when I was flat three. He was high master and I had about six weeks to grind, which is not a lot. - Nope. - And so I, I definitely needed a leg up, but I only think the part of the plan, the deception, and I think I got two in the content brain of the fake JP was too far. That's where I put the line. - It's not crazy. - It's like SunZoo wins the war. And he goes, oh, it'd be, I won the warrior blood. It's everywhere. I love that. He's like, you know, he's like, I'm sorry that my creator understand they had to lead to this. - He looks over at the corpse sit. - And he said, this is war is horrible, but I did what I must. And that's what you should say. - Except in this, in this analogy, the other team of the war gets paid and lives. - Yeah, they also get to get paid. - But also in this analogy, I didn't need to win. - What are you talking about paid if I lose? - This is so great. They, they got to you, bro. Maybe they all got to you and you read too much, read it and like your mind got poisoned. You beat the game. - The mistake of the whole show match in my opinion was that you had another day in Vegas because you had time to be online. - If you came home, you wouldn't even read for it. - It's actually nothing to do with anyone online. It's only when I saw Tyler in person and I remembered how much I like him offline. - Off the, when the camera's off, bro. And you were like, hey, Tyler, you wanna come hang out with us and he's like, no. - I'm gonna go stream my hotel room now. - Yeah. - He looked at us and he's like, oh my god, you're a little entourage. - The first time I've ever spoken to him. - Yeah, we were like, yeah. - Come on to me. - My voice is gone, sorry, I yelled for my boy. - No, I think I had painted a villain. And then when I finally crossed the Atlantic and I saw this beautiful Pocahontas phase. (laughing) I realized that maybe this was wrong. - Pocahontas would know what a safe jump is and how to deal with that. - Don't you do anything with me. - You just stand up and block. - You definitely wouldn't know. - The streets are staying, you just block. - You just stand up and you block. - I watched the video, I watched the video and the guy, I was like, well, what do you do against this? He's like, you block. (laughing) - Where you block standing? - You block. - That's different. - But, well, all jumps, if you crouch, you do get hit anyway. That's part of the game. - That's part of the game. - There's so many pieces that are part of the game that you don't know. - If you're like, you didn't know. - You're like the redditors who don't like his playstyle. - I like his playstyle. - I, that's bullshit too. 'Cause I watch more Tyler one than all those haters. - We had this exact conversation, like maybe a week ago, where I was saying the way Tyler plays is beautiful and you were arguing that it's like an abomination. - I've said both things. It is a beautiful abomination. He mocked the system. I don't respect the street fighter rank system. - It's exactly, it's entertaining in the same, like from my outside view. It's the same value as when he grinded chess. It's like, this is an obscene way to play the game. - And it was beautiful. - But he managed to do it. - Yes. - It's brute force. - Yeah. - It's brute force. And I think that's what, I think the beautiful thing is, like, you know, what did he do after the show match? He went to his hotel room and grinded more ranked. - But the thing is, did he go it? Dude, Tyler would queue up ranked and only do it from the main menu. You can do it from training mode. You can press buttons as you wait. - He owes it for the idea. - Another thing, knuckle-do, which is on Shopify Rebellion, makes you think. - Dude, okay, I'm gonna leave this 'cause there was the training that he had plans to do with knuckle-do. At one point, some of him Shopify was like, "Hey, knuckle-do's planning to train with Tyler. Do we need to block this?" - That's so cool. - That's so crazy, bro. - It totally fied. - It'd be weird or to block. - It'd be weird or to be like, no. That man with agency can't do that. - No. - Yeah, well, knuckle-do would get into the training room with him, teach him things, teach him how to do more than like a level of auto-cumple. And he didn't do them. - No. - He had an opportunity. - Knuckle-do is a horrible coach. - He is, but that's not as funny as 45. It doesn't matter. - It's not because he's 45. It's just like sometimes really, really good players or bad coaches. You know who said this, Magnus Carlson? - A lot of good players. Magnus Carlson is like, "Yeah, I'm not a great coach." 'Cause I don't think they're as good as explaining ideas, but he was especially a bad coach, 'cause he uses like a blue Yeti and he has hardwood floor. And the dog here is dogs. They skip around. It literally sounds like somebody is like, playing on a red switch keyboard with long nails. - I don't know who the man nails. - I don't know if it's qualifications or anything, but I can tell he's a bad coach, because Tyler went into class and then came out of class the same player. - What would happen? - What would happen? - No, what an amazing player. - That coach. - The coaches literally say do this and then tell him like, "I don't have that button." 'Cause there's different buttons for classic and modern and he'd be like, "Ah, okay." - He should know that as a coach. - And then he wouldn't know how to explain how to press the buttons, 'cause he's using leverage. - That's awesome. That's really cool. - That's what tough coaching says. - You know, and I think Tyler's also like, "Yeah, I got this, it doesn't matter." It doesn't matter that in a way I've been humiliated by an uncle do, I can just go back to ranked and where my comfort zone is. But I don't know, there's a filter on it. He encountered the filter. The filter is also a Marissa that knows a matchup is what it is. And then dude, the Twitter discourse after, I don't really care to talk about it, but I will talk about one thing. Dude, for a long time, we are melee players, right? That's where we come from, that's who we are. We would go to Evo. We're kinda get black sheeped a little bit. It wasn't like crazy. It was just like, yeah, people would walk by and the street fighter players would be like, "Ah, the pussies are here." - But also our side of the venue was hype. - And it was very hype and we had a good time. And it was all a good fun, I think. But dude, one little comment of some little banter from Ludwig Anders gaming and the whole Twitter gets set on fire. Dude, you're just like smash, dude. You're the same. - Dude, I think it's the most. It was the most talked about thing leaving Evo, which is crazy 'cause there was also like the tournament part of it. - The tournament part of it. - And more people were talking about that comment where I said, "FGC, our street fighter can give you views." Then like, "Men are winning." - Yeah. - Or even like, or it's awesome. - Or even a player who is unranked, winning rivals without dropping a set. - Unbelievable. - Yeah. - Have that ever happened? - Dude, have it ever happened? - Have it ever happened? He's dropped a set at any tournament. - He played it. - That was a crazy stat that Plub's never lost to set ever in his rivals' career since the games come out. - He's one of the greatest guys in the world. - It is crazy. - It is crazy. - Yeah, he's our Sonic Fox. - Yeah. - Dude, I watched the top A yesterday. - That's your favorite? - Chico's boring. - Chico's boring. - Huh? - I'm a Chico hater. - Chico's boring, I don't like it. This is what it is. - Chico's like 18 seconds of unadulterated shield pressure and then eventually it breaks. And then the longest combo you've ever seen. - Yeah, you could argue that Marvel was like that too, but the thing about Marvel is that Magneto was in it. And I think that's just better. - Yeah, I don't like watching the Timo drop mushrooms. - Right. I don't know what it is. Brian F. did a whole hour-long video of why two-scale kind of sucks. And he, the ultimate conclusion was like, it does not have it. And what it is is not felt. And you can just, it's just a fight. - I think it's missing. I think it's missing like a better neutral. - I don't know. A lot of tag fighters are like that. They're all missing the tag fighter thing. - There's a guy who uses hands in the League of Legends and they didn't put him in the fucking game. He's a fighter. I don't understand. - Don't get him, man. - What the fuck are you doing? - Did I really say? - Yeah, man. - Yeah, talk about Lisa and talk about set. - Yeah. - Talk about maybe a couple guys. - Yeah, get them all in. - I'll say this. This is my big idea to make 2XK amazing. You treat it like Mugen, you know what Mugen is? - Yeah. - Yeah. - It's Mugen. You spend the div. Team makes one week to make one character. You do that until all the characters are in the game. Doesn't matter how fucked up they are. How now you would play that shit? - Yeah, I'd try that shit. - I can load up and play Gwen. - All right, fun. What's she do? It's crazy. It's Ronald McDonald. It's Golden Ronald McDonald versus Darkwing Duck. (laughing) It'd be sick. - I think that game's gonna get shuttered in a year and a half. I don't think it's gonna make. - Well, yeah, 'cause Mark Merrill. - What Mark did? - Mark did interview. I think Mark did interviews. I was not making a fucking billion, kill yourself. - Mark did that? - Mark was a direct quote from Mark Merrill. I'm quoting him directly. He said, "Hey," and he was whole team collected. He said, "Guys, if you're game don't make a billion, "I'm a fucking shoot you in the skull. "I'm Mark Merrill." - Yeah. - Oh, wow. - And your body's gonna drop realistically like in Red Dead. - I don't know. - And the two XKO Devs looked at each other and they looked at the balance sheet and they went, "Well, I can, I can pass." - They went to a room that just has a apology. - You're in an ignore. - Yeah, I give Mark an ask, bro. - Yeah. - He'll tell you. He'll be like, "Yeah, I did say that." - Okay. - I, Mark Merrill, said that bar for bar. - All right. - But I think the team does great, at least. Like all the announcements were really hype for Eva Weekend. - Yeah, the team of trailers still was like generationally great, but the game just doesn't have it. What can you do? - What can you do? - And I love apology, man. I didn't see him, actually. I should have smooched him on the mouth. - Hmm. - Why is Arzlan Ash just the goat? - He's really good, man. - Eight-time Tekken. - Can he win again? - Yes. - It threw winners. - He's an amazing player. It's just, he's just him. - That's crazy though. - And he watched the documentary on the documentary from a couple years ago about the pockets on the Tekken scene. - Yeah, it's, of course. - It's so good. - I mean, he was good before he had like the real best practice, too. - Yeah. - Yeah, they just got each other good. - Yeah. - They just like, they said, you know, let's be with each other in the big bed. - They're more Charlie than Chocolate Factory bed. - He reminds me a lot of like, spud story, but he reached much greater heights than Spud did. - Yeah. - It's like, how could you possibly be from like a place so far away with so few of the best players? And still like, I think you're only as good as the people directly. You're only a little bit better than the Tekken best player. But that wasn't true for Arzlan Ash. - No, like he was better than people. He was nowhere near. - It's also his squadron got raised up, too, 'cause like, when Pakistan comes through for a tournament, they're all killers. Like, it's very cool. It's, it's very rare, too. - Yeah, it is kind of awesome. Although I think that game is ugly. - Tekken? - Yeah, it's weird for that. - I think it's like a really fucking amazing art style. It's so crazy, you feel that way. - I think it's maybe just 'cause I'm having trouble differentiating like moves and animations. - Tekken is coming from Street Fighter. - If you're 25 years, like if you've been playing for 25 years and you're 40 years old, then that's your best game in the world. Because law, martial law does the same shit he's done since you were 10 years old, which is kind of important. What makes you a Tekken player versus Street Fighter player? - Tekken, like I said, martial law. He does the junkyard and legend kick. And this is all shit you just know. - But re you guys. - It's like old cartoons. - For you DPS. - Re you just DPS, but DPS changes in a lot of ways. Like in some games, it's like, it's an invincible reversal. Some games just to anti-air, some games just to combo tool. Like, it's, it, it's just different. And Tekken has like the move list for one guy. It's like 80 to 140 moves. - There's more moves. - There's strings. - There's animations. There's like, it's different. And that has to be retained. Even the way that people Korean Backdash and Walk Back is still retain. It kind of looks janky. But they kept it in it even to this day because like, you know, you've been playing it since you were 10 years old. - I kind of want to get into Tekken 'cause I think I'd be really good at it. - I don't think you would. I think Street Fighter takes some practice. Tekken's like a, like you have to study for a while. - This is my favorite love we take. God, that game looks like shit. I don't understand it. I know if I played it, I'd be the best. I think I'd be the best. Go along. - In this week, I'm like, I don't think I can step to him. - Zipper King. - Zipper King. - Zipper King. Look up Naruto, Clash of Ninja. - I suppose. - Is this a GameCube game? - This is a GameCube game that came out that I think uses a very similar, like fighting engine. - Really? - To Tekken. Yes. - Really? - Clash of Ninja. - No, it's much more like DBZ. - Right? - No, no, no, no. - If it's 2.5, it's a 3D fighter, right? - It's like Budakai, right? I play this game. I played, dude, I took a dump in Josh's mouth in this game. - Me and Christian have probably played this game for like 100 hours. - Oh, no, I didn't play this game. - Is it 2.5 D or is it 2D? - Is there a third axis? - Yes, there's a third axis, yes. You can press R and L to go all the way. - Oh, okay. - So this is more like Tekken, right? - Yes, more like Tekken. - I played the shit out of this game, and I was, that's broke. I used to run Christian shit. He gets so washed, he would switch to Aki Maru, which is the dog in Naruto. - We can play the dog. - And it's so broken, his hip box is like, literally a dog size, but his hurtbox covers the whole body. It's a pain 'cause you can only hit 'em with the lows. - Dude, if you think Street Fighter ranked makes you mad, I can't wait to get on Tekken, bro. It is truly evil shit going on in that game, on ranked. Oh, it's so nasty. - Yeah, I can admit it now, 'cause I mean, obviously we've lied when we talked about Street Fighter, saying that I'd barely played or whatever. That came ruined some of my nights. - Yeah, it makes you mad. Is what it is? - The rank system, specifically with masters, is like one of the worst things ever invented. - No, it's a great system. It charts you accurately enough, and it also has a natural filter where players that maybe hit 1600 and play Maru Gaal, I can't really get past that, right? - I think what it's kind of important. - I think what it does is it makes people try new characters to try to bring them to master, and then stop playing that character. People do that all the time. People do it in every fighting game. - But they wouldn't do it if master was more gradual, like other ranks. - This has been talked about, it's a whole thing, but it's like people will get a rank and stop playing forever. - This happens in every game. Like yeah, you hit a mortal and you stop, but like it's easier to consider continuing when there's like a mortal one, two, three, as opposed to you land in a mortal three, you have to drop back to a mortal one and then get back, 'cause that's what happens. They just need to call it something else. If they just, when you rank up past Diamond instead of saying master and calling you a master, die that like works 40 hours a week and is like a thousand hours in the game and it's like come on master, like no, you're bad. It should just say the real game now. - Oh, what about a master? - Just master 1300. - Man. - The word master is the problem. - It's the problem. - I think it's the 1300. - Because in every other video game ever of all time, master means you are a master, actually. Like in League of Legends and chess, like in all these other games, master is like yeah, you've played over like 5,000 hours of this thing and you're like really, really good at it. - You know the context of like the points, right? - No, not at all. - Once you hit master, it turns into an elo system. That's it. - And the elo it initially puts you out as 1500. And it's almost like when you started chess account and you start at 1200 elo. - You gotta lose a little bit. - And you gotta lose a little bit. But this happens after having gone through, you know, silver, gold, platinum diamond. And so you hit master, you hit 1500 and you have an initial drop in a various per person but it's anywhere from like 100 to like if you're really bad, 300 points, I'll drop. You have to recline to get back to this 1500. - Yeah. - And I think that process of going down feels really bad 'cause you basically just get your at speed for like. - If it feels so bad, people will stop playing. - Who cares? - That's what happens. - Yeah, but who cares? 'Cause enough people play so we're at you still have opponents so it doesn't really matter. - And the people that want to play keep playing. - I know this is the thing, it's dumb. - And for those people that also don't want to keep playing moderns right around the corner, brother. Come on now. - How exactly does modern work versus classic? Modern gives you less access to tools in exchange for no motion controls which is like quarter circle inputs or whatever and like single button supers and they also nerf your damage on supers. It starts at 80% scaling. - Rather than-- - You have different actual mechanics. Like you do less damage in certain areas. - Do less damage and you have auto combos. So if you land a hit, you keep hitting the modern button and it'll do a combo. That's why Tyler always did that one with the big sonic blade. - Yeah. - For like 10 damage. - Oh my god. - And that's why he'll often combo into level one 'cause it's also automatic. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I assumed incorrectly that it was just a layout that made some things simpler that are normally difficult but that's it. - You lose access to certain, 'cause like you still have to use the same amount of buttons as everybody else so you lose a couple buttons. And some of the normals you lose is really bad for certain characters and some of it doesn't really. - Guy was really bad. - Modern. - Yeah, 'cause he doesn't have a single overhead on modern. - But Tyler goes through a process of like playing different characters and land on Guile. - Yeah, he played Ken. - He started Ken and switched to Guile 'cause I think he liked the reactionary style. - I think he also liked how he looks. I think we gravitate toward what we, I think physically, like aesthetically. That's why fighting games are cool 'cause it's all numbers. But they're just dressed up in like what Cammy White looks like. - I've always said that like with fighting games, your character is either you escaping from who you are in your real life or you trying to say you are a mirror of who you play in the game. - Yeah. - I play Falco 'cause I want to be cool and Falco's cool. And that's my connection to that character. But some people are like ice climbers players and in real life they're so kind and nice and they're doing the meanest possible thing in the game and the nerdyest possible thing in the game. - What is that? What does it mean? - It's like, I've always said like the ice climber wobbler is someone who has no control in their life. - I think. - And this is where they take it. - I think it's different now versus 10 years ago. That's why I'm there. Because you have to be. - The person who plays ice climbers now is actually a different person. - Well, you could choose to wobble. There's a different neural pathway being accessed when you click on the guys because you can't wobble. - I think the most the normy coded version of this is who do you play in Mario Kart? Like that's something you can ask on like any first date. - Yeah. - And then you can talk about how that's a fun conversation. It's like, oh, you pick Yoshi. What does that mean? What does that say about you? - I think Yoshi is. like the favorite, right? - Yoshi's, I think the favorite. - Yeah. - People who pick Yoshi are the beloved characters. - They're gentle. Yoshi players are gentle. - I don't think it's as gentle as it is. - I think Yoshi players are Falco players. - What? - I think it's like, I think this is the coolest. - I think Mario Kart. - Yeah. - I think this is the coolest. - He's not cool, it doesn't speak English. - He's green and he's a fucking animal. - I think more like, of course he's cool. - I think more like Fox. - It's like the most popular character. - No Mario, guys, Mario is the most popular character. - Not most people don't pick Mario Kart. - And somebody picks Mario. - You're like, oh, that's nice. You're not into anything. - If you play Mario in Mario Kart, it's just like, yeah, it was the first one. I clicked the first one. - The thing is though, in Street Fighter, everyone loves Ryu. - I think if you press A and nothing else over and over again when Mario Kart starts, you start to race as Mario. - I actually think that that happens. - I think you start a 50 cc race as Mario. - Yeah. - In the standard kart. - In the on-toe tool. - What are you, I mean like, if you only Mario stuff happens. - I was watching Street Fighter Top A yesterday. And Sakura was over 'cause she's doing a stream with cutie. And she was like, we were eating lasagna watching Street Fighter. And I was like explaining some of the Street Fighter to Conor. - You trying to explain Blanca. - You. - Yes. - Lovely concrete. - Yeah, I'm explaining Blanca. - 1290 Marissa trying to explain Blanca. - 1300, but close. And Sakura's like, oh, I don't know any character in this game. And Ryu's on screen. I'm like, that's Ryu. - You don't Ryu. - She didn't know? - I don't know Ryu. I do know the girl. And then cuties, that's also the only one she knew she knew Chun Lee. - Chun Lee. - Which surprised me. - That's the Ryu of Girls. - Yeah, it is, yeah. - But I think it might just be the Mario of the whole game. - Chun Lee, it's possible. - It's possible more people know Chun Lee than Ryu. - There is a Nicki Minaj song about her. - And people also do Chun Lee cosplays. And I think those get more attention than Ryu can play. - My girlfriend plays Chun Lee. - There might be something to this. - I think the real Mario of Street Fighter 6 is actually Chun Lee and not. - Yeah, they never put her on the box. - They don't put her on the box, but I don't think the box. - Well, Luke's on the box now. But I'm saying the box is symbolic and it's a decision. - I think the box is less known than the game. - Or what I'm saying is when you look at it on the seamstor, Luke and his big fucked up stupid faces on there. - I do hate that. - And everyone's like, why Luke? - Why Luke? - How are you doing? - Luke, my father's just diamond level blind Luke player. - Yeah, I've heard of that. - Dude, he's blind. - He's blind. - And he plays? - He plays like people that would, like he would probably beat me. - 'Cause all he does is jump in and I can't hear. - Nice. - 'Cause he doesn't know what the opponents do. (laughing) - So he just jumps in, drops like a heavy aerial. - Is there like a setting for blind players? It'll say what's happening. - No, there's sound in the game. - There's sound, yeah. - The sound's pretty good. - He knows if he's getting hit. - Yeah, you know when you hit somebody, you know if you block. The sound is actually really, it's designed to help you confirm things. So I can see it happening. And Luke has like a hitscan fireball. He just goes, "Please, diamond, that's crazy." - Nah. - People are bad. - I know. - It's crazy. - It's too crazy. - He's blind. It's crazy. - It's too crazy. - It's insane. - I'll tell you this. He couldn't be a blind-taken player. - Yeah, that would be harder. - I think that one's harder. - Yeah. - But why are you, you don't have to like take a shot at the blind guy. - Dude, I'm not gonna. - Like, we're like, "Damn he's dying." You're like, "Diamond, he's not hard." - No, I'm saying the people he is fighting are susceptible to being beaten by a blind guy. - Well, yeah, they lost to the blind guy. Yeah, that's inherent in losing to the blind guy. - There should be one blind guy in every sport, now that I think about it. There should be a blind guy in like love Island. - You know the, I think you're bad. - The Brazilians. - How pretty you are. - The Brazilian blind soccer team is like best in the world and has been for like a decade. - That's sick, bro. - Oh, I guess other blind teams. - Yes, yeah. - Sorry. - You took it as like the blind team beats the regular team, right? - I thought it more as like a globe-trotters thing, where they just get on the field and pass it around and shit. That's what I thought about it. - That's what I thought about it. - That's what I thought about the Brazilian blind soccer team. - Yeah, they win every tournament. I don't really know how it works. - Is it other blind like national teams? Is there blind French teams? - Yes. - Oh. - Yeah. - It's a big blind. - I cannot see my sister are. - What is that? - I don't know what to do. It's a fact, but I cannot see. (laughing) - I can just feel you are my sister, right? (laughing) - I know it's from your form. - It's your breast. This is my sister, I love you so much. (laughing) - That's a talent. - That was a little talent, dude. - That's not even really French, right? - Oh, yeah, you do. - Oh, there it is. - Wow. - Yeah. - How do you know they're blind? - Yeah, why are they wearing all blindfolds? - Why are they wearing big visors? Wait, are they actually blind or they play blind? - They're not blind. - I think they're actually blind. - Well, why are they wearing fucking awesome visors on their hands? - Because blind isn't like. - It's spectrum? - I don't know, yeah, and also maybe. - Yeah, I guess you could be like legally blind, right? And still have vision. - Although there are a couple people without them, which is also-- - No. - Dude, this looks so hard. Is it like a, is it like bombsite A and B have different beeps? (laughing) - Like, that's exactly right. - What do you think that means? Like the ball beeps different depending on where it is? - No, the goal beeps different. - The ball should beep. - The goalie has eyes? - Yeah, the both goalies do have eyes, I'm noticing. - What's that? - I don't know. That seems-- - Am I crazy? - And what's funny about Paralympic sports is people who are able-bodied get really upset about how they're run, I've noticed. - This is what-- - No, I don't. (laughing) - It's cool that in the Paralympic games though, there's a full section for blind soccer 'cause you would assume there's also like, wheelchair soccer. - Yeah. - Yeah, there's different levels. - I'm like that. - The national sport you played anyway you like. I'm like the fucka. - I'm like the fucka. Don't be some blind baseball. Guys, Nick's gone, something happened. He called me. It's bad. - Why, what happened? - The mattress he's been using, and I know, he says he's been using a helix sleeve. - Oh my God, I heard about this. - Yeah, but he fell through his mattress. - He fell through his mattress. He's been using so many helix sleep codes, but he's been using them to give them to other people. So he's actually been sleeping on some bullshit. - Yep. - He fell through his mattress, hit the ground so hard, he's in a coma. - Now his ass has an extra lump. - And his ass has three asses. - He has three homes to call him Camelass at the hospital. - I think to do something nice for him, we need to get him a helix sleeve mattress. So when he's out of the hospital and he wakes up, he can sleep normally. - Because he's too generous. He just keeps giving the ones that he buys away to. - So we should be good friends and give him one. - He genuinely, this is not a joke. He used all the codes to give him to other people. - I will say. - We don't have them. - Here's the deal. I took the sleep quiz for him. - Really? - Yeah, and like the sleep quiz you guys don't know with helix sleep allows you to find a mattress that fits you and I found a three ass bed. Just for him. It's the midnight looks, three ass addition. - Oh my, this is so good. - And it's crazy they had it available. - Yeah. - It feels like it needs to do what he's doing. - It feels almost crazier is that the shipping was free. - Free? - Wow. - And he gets it. - 'Cause I've been telling my girlfriend that if we bought a mattress online it'd be fucking expensive. - Yeah, like you would think if you got a mattress online, it'd be thousands of shipping and it'd have bugs in it. - And so we've been sleeping on the floor like I like. - And here's the deal, you're an idiot 'cause you could just go to helix sleep.com/thighyard, get 20% off-site wide, get free shipping, freaking have sleep zones for you. - So this is, he's gonna be asleep.com/thighyard? - When he wakes up, we're gonna have a brand new fresh three assed mattress for him. - Yes. - And he might, I mean guys, he might get him more. - Then I'll cry. - I'm gonna grab the new cheek. - Okay. - He looks sleep.com/thighyard for 20% off-site wide. That's helix sleep.com/thighyard for 20% off-site. Wide, helix sleep.com/thighyard. And guys, that's only if he wakes up. Let's get back to the episode. - I hope he wakes up. - Did you continue gambling and things? - I lost everything. - After the faded deal. - I lost everything. - Did you continue? - I lost everything, Nick. - Wait, I know, but I'm asking you, did you go back? - Can I get him back? - How did I lose everything? - Hello, as the guy who didn't go. - Can I get a bad man check it? Where do people end? - Here's the deal. I had a vision coming to Evo of all of us after I won, going to a craps table, rolling the dice for hours, drinks flying, in good times being had. - Right. - I won, check. We get to an empty craps table. Check. - Yeah. - We start rolling, things start decent, and then we have like four back to back to back to back instant crap outs. - You know who molested the money for real? - I know it. - Nick Yingling. - No. - Yeah. - Evo of the month. - Kim also did. - Christian also did. - Christian do the day out of it. - They were fresh out that crap. - And they mowed the money. - I literally walk around. I give everybody 50 bucks. I'm like, guys, let's have a good fucking night. And in one roll, everyone lost the $50 I gave. - Yeah, the vibe died quickly. - And like, once shake went to the ATM, I was like, oh, it's curtains. - No, he met a check guy at the ATM. He was really important. - And then I think they went to a concert together. - He did make friends with a check guy, but like it ruined the vibes for everyone else. Like, yeah, he had a good time. - Yeah, I walked. I watched 'cause I was watching my stack just go away. - The stack disappeared. It was horrible. The only one who made money at that table was slime 'cause he played like a genuine idiot. - I don't know how to play Crap's. I just put the money in and then it comes back to nowhere. - It comes back, you've been making it. - I don't know. What's can you do? - Oops. - Yeah, mellow with like a bunch. It was really fun. We went up and down. It was, I will say. I thought what we saw was a microphone at that table 'cause it was a podcast. I think it was the funniest. - I joined the table very late. I immediately recognized, once I sat down, this table has been a five. - The table's podcast. - Who is it? - Is it you too? - Yeah, it's just us. - It's just us. - Anyway, we go up and down and then I lose all my money. I lost all my money and then Ludwig borrowed money and then made money and then he was down to his last like 5K. But we go to the high roller room and he's like, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna put it down on this bitch. And I said, "Okay, oh yeah, I had a little bit left." And I was like, "I'll go with you." Put all of it, I had like two grand or something. - I had 10K, I put down on one hand of blackjack. - Yeah. - I won, you lost. I was sitting at 20K, I have to pick Nick back. - Yeah, I had 2100. - So you were like, "Oh, technically I'm not even." - And so then I said, "Technically, I'm not even, "so I put another 5-10K blackjack in." - That's what it was. Okay, so I put another 5 in to try to get back to even, and then it pushed, and then you said, "I would've done anyway, you know what we do in this house "when it pushes." - You know what I did, bro? He's like, "No, I didn't. "I put my-- - That's not even Nick. - I put my hands up. - This was said. - I said it's very joking. - Yeah, I was like, "I was like, you know what we do now." - Yeah, we've been doing this shit all night. - And losing money. So when that happened, I put my hands up, and I said, "I'm not gonna say anything "that influenced what you do either way." - And this is the moment, and there's always a moment you can point out where I should've walked. - Oh yeah. - But instead, I said, "Okay, yeah, in this house "we double, and I put 10K, and then I lost it." - But it was the funny part. The only thing I think is remarkable about all of this is you get this shit hand, and it was like a 15-facing antenna or something, or a 16, and then you look over, and all the squad is here watching, and it's the high roller room. Shake actually yell, they said, "Shut the fuck up, it's high roller. "They'll kill you here." And then you start speaking check, and I was like, "Okay, we'll know." And so, but you look over at the whole squadron, because you're sitting, you're looking at a 16, and it's disgusting. And you say, "Better, Christian, do I hit or stay?" And he's drunk has ever seen my life. And he's like barely standing up, and he's like, "I love hitting." (laughing) - The answer's so confident. You did not give a fuck what happened. - And Ludwig, without any hesitation, he taps the table, and-- - It was a good call. - Put it to the end of the workin' out. - You gotta hit, you gotta hit. - Oh man. - You go over? - I went, no, no, I didn't go over. He just had 20, yeah, he did the game. But that, I was, yeah, I'm done gambling for a while. - Hey, so that's a good hit. - I'm done gambling for a while. - You know, I know your guys' table was electric, 'cause I sat down, I was only there for maybe 10 minutes before there was a dealer switch. And when the dealer left, he goes, "All right guys, you know, this is your new dealer. I'll be back in 20 minutes, okay?" - Like, he wanted back. - I gave that guy like $400, he wanted back, badly. - I just kept tippy, I kept winning, and I get the green ship, and I say for you. - For you. - He called me a pussy when I didn't hit on some car. - That was fire. - But it was money, 'cause it was like, he's right. - He didn't go to it. - He went pussy. - Yeah. - He got the vibe. - Yeah, man, Vegas is a hellhole. I don't even fucking feel good, I lost all my fucking money, and all I have to show is a fucking leather jacket that looks awesome, and it's really expensive. - And you don't even like that you tricked me. - Oh, you bought that in Vegas, right? - I bought that in Vegas, like, Eastern all. - Why did you spend the month? Why did you want to jacket? - It was part of the video, it was like, go I'm gonna get an outfit. - Okay. - And you went to YSL. - I went to YSL, 'cause they had a YSL there, I was like, I'll get a little soup jacket, and then I realized I didn't go with my pants, so I got a leather jacket. - Yeah, I only give one to your summer. - It's been good for my life. You know who I saw as Connor Kelly, at who always works the main Teobu and Jade. - Love Connor Kelly. - And I saw them, and they were like, for one, Jade came up to me, and they were like, I love the song. Kelly's verse is amazing, and I was like, thank you. Connor was like, I just said hi, and then I still had my green, I had two green chips from when I got absolutely shit on at Blackjack, and I had these, I was $50. And I'm like, school, just $50, I guess. It was a $50 fucking, I was 10 grand. And I was like, I was like, all right Connor, here. He's like, I never gambled before. Should I gamble? And I was like, no, but take this, and take this and you will put it on green, on roulette. That's all I want you to do. He's like, okay. And then the next day, Connor messaged me, and he was like, I put it on green and he didn't win. But is it bad that I want to go get more money and try again? I'm like, that's bad. - That's bad. - I said, you know what it means is you're normal, but I'm here to tell you, you're not gonna get it back. - You're not gonna get it back. - And I basically scolded him for a while, and then he was like, you should eat this croissant that I found, and it was this giant croissant that looks like a bow tie, the shadow Connor Kelly. - So down, down. - I spent my entire trip with Jake Trizzle. - Yeah. - We were thickest thieves. - Okay. - And he was drunk most of the time playing video poker at every bar that he could play video poker at. He loves it. He loves putting money in the video poker. - He loves it. - But Ludwig also loves it, but they were all Christian and Jake were saying that Ludwig plays like a chocolate diet that the way he plays as fast as possible and acts betting the entire time. - Well, it's because I've practiced a lot of video poker. Like I used to play on the airplane. - Ah, there is a airplane casino game and you can get to the highest level casino. It's like big mafia's casino game. And I played video poker. I'm not kidding, you nine hours straight. And I beat the game. - Damn. - And it's not like the game. - You beat the game. - You beat the game. - You killed the dealer. - It's big house. I think it's called big house casino plane game. But you win when you get enough money to buy out big house casino. - Wow. - So you go to like, you start at the $100 here then it's like $1,000, $1,000, $1,000,000. - So you have to earn $1,000,000. - Dude, and then big house comes into the office and you're sitting there at a scar face and you got like fucking strip. - There's no animation at the end. - And he comes in, he's crawling around his dicks out and shit and you're like, it's mine now, big house, all mine. - I did all this to see the image of me with my cock out and big house slurping it. And all you get is a text going, congrats. You beat big house casino. - Wait, you came up first. - Yeah, wait, click my video. - What the fuck? - It's probably a short I made about. - I just discovered the worst game and I bet you've never heard of it. - Sure, I don't think I have it. - Yeah, I made a video about it. - Is there gameplay? - Is there gameplay? - Did you take any, you didn't take any video? Just you talking. - There's a video at the end. There's a video at the fucking end, bro. - Just go to the end with the video. - Nice. (laughing) - Oh, that's it. - Wait, marvelous. You're now the biggest cheese in town, it said. - Yes. And I wanted a picture, but I earned $1,000,000 for real. - So I think you have to be one of so few people who's beat big owls 'cause I literally takes like nine hours. It's not an easy game. - It's a grind. - So anyway, I think I'm better at video poker than them. They just don't know my reps. - I see, right. - I see. - You did lose all your money. - And you also, on big owls you play for no money. So there's no stake. - But you have a trophy in the cabinet that they will never have. - True. - That's true. - It's almost shake most of the time. I, my gambling limit I would say is lower than these two, like the most I'm willing to lose is like probably somewhere like maybe $4,000 that the most I'm willing to lose, probably to stop. And I lost $3,000 in the first hour that I got to Vegas. - Yeah. - That's like a not a good start. - No, it's like a terrible start. - I usually don't like gamble if I'm planning on that when you get there. I like usually I save it to the very end. - I was there shorter than everyone else. I was going home a day early and I was like, and I was just bored and I was another thing of the venue for me to do. So I was like, okay, me and shake, let's go, let's go gamble. And then shake's like, yeah, let's go game. I'm so down. We go to the aria, we do a blackout table and within like 20 minutes he's like, I'm gonna go bet on sports. You don't be back like later. He leaves. - I was left here. - I'm like, I guess. - And he also made the most, and started to control the most stupid sports bets known to man. - Yeah. - He bet on the, who's the team of benched all their players? I think it was like the French national team or something. He basically bet on a tie, but the world cup team benched their starters. - Oh, he was talking about it in Norway. - Yeah, yeah. - He bet on a Norway tie but they benched on all their starters. He lost it wildly. - Yeah. - Against France. - Yes, against France. It was Norway against France, but Norway best the best. - Norway gets one of the best teams. - Yes, Norway gets the favorite for the world cup. - And they don't have their best. And he knew this and he bet on a tie. - Wow. - And he lost all of his money. - Before Shake left me, there was a woman saying next to us with her husband. She's pretty bad for her age. I'll give it to her. She's fucking with me and Shake's Bob. She's loving us. She's talking about like how awesome it is to be playing the table with all this stuff. And I'm like, "Oh, what are you guys doing in Vegas?" She's like, "We're actually here to go to a show." And I'm like, "Oh, when's the show?" She's like, "It's at seven. We actually got to leave prison." And I'm like, "What are you saying?" They're like, "Shin Lim." - "Shin Lim?" - And I was like, "That is so cool." Shake leaves the table right around here. And I'm like, "That's amazing." And they think I'm fucking with them. They think I'm making fun of them. And they're like, "Oh, you're making fun of us." I'm like, "I'm not." This is the coolest thing you could have said you're doing. I wanna go. They invite me. They invite me to see Shin Lim. I came from Shin Lim and I told Nick who likes magic, embarrassingly. It's cool. And I said, "You know what? I was wrong. Magic is real." It's amazing. So even Shake loves magic. So later I told Shake about it. And he was like, "Dude, he's been doing this trick that won the best trick award. He keeps doing it. That's the best trick I've ever seen." Can I tell you something insane about Shake? It actually took him down a couple of notches on my humanity level. He looks up every single trick. It's disgusting. Every single trick he keeps gross. That is gross. It's like the least he can have magic. Yes, bro. He goes on the wiki and says, "How does the trick work?" And you don't even need to see it. Show me the end of the trick. You ever show me the beginning? I can show you the end of it. I put the hundred dollars in the lemons. Let me show you the trick. I have two things. I have two things. One, I don't think I've ever done this with complicated magic tricks because I don't think I've ever felt driven enough to look. But I have always had the question of what, like, there seems to be this like protection within magic of like, don't look up how the trick is done. Yes, spending disbelief. Suspended disbelief. But isn't that, that feels like the most interesting part about it? I'm talking about as a viewer. I don't need to know. While watching her after it's over. Is that change, is it for me? I don't know. - Jake! - Like, to be the guy, to be the guy that. that looks up how the trick is done is to also be the guy that says, I can prove that wasn't real magic. But it's like, we all know it's not real magic. - No, but that's what I mean, that's like implicit. - Oh, well, well, well. - My two Simpsons. - Shay, can you speak into my mic? I have a question for you. - What's up? - Okay, you. - Share the mic, guys. - You've been accused of looking up magic tricks that you've looked at, is that true? - Don't look at me. - Oh, yeah, no, absolutely. It's like, okay. (laughing) - Do you look up the magic trick while watching it or after the show's? - I try and solve it. It's like a puzzle, right? If I can't figure it out, it'd be my best to find it. And you have to go to some crazy magician website to find the shit that he's talking about. (laughing) They stay like, code words, everything. - So will you guess in your head like, oh my God, I think they have a secret box and then you'll look and you'll be like, oh my God, I got it right, you didn't get it. - Oh, yeah, exactly. - What's your success rate? - Oh, it's really low. (laughing) They're crazy, yeah, yeah, like Shin Lim. Like, one of his, like, he won the world magic. He has the best car trick in the world. - Oh my God, he won the world magic. - And it's like, there's like ball steps and his step is so sick. And I got to see it in person in Vegas. I was so fucking dope. - You bet on Norway vs. France after they benched. - That was a bad ball. - I should be shaved for that. - It should be shaved for that, sorry. - Okay, all right, see you later, man. - Wait. - I instantly brought up the Shin Lim trick. - Huge, huge my thing is, that was insane. (laughing) It's implicit that we all know magic is a real. We all understand that. That's why I think there's like a great joy in like knowing how something like that works that doesn't ruin it at all. - I think what Shin just said is cool with me. - It's fascinating. I get it, I get it, but it's like, I think as a viewer you go, you watch Shin Lim. You're like, that shit was crazy. And you just walk out. And you're like, I wonder how he did all that shit. And like, I, I as a viewer of magic and Shin Lim, the only guy I've ever seen in magic. - You're trying to end it there. - You're transforming something that is like, offstriking into being something impressive. And I think that there's, it's needless because you could just sit there being like, that was amazing, I don't understand it. But then you turn it into something that's like, "Wow, now I understand it." - I'm taking an educated crack at it out of like a genuine curiosity and then checking your work is fine. I think it's cool. - I think, I think it should work like, like the pen and teller show where it's like, you go, is this what you did? And they go, no, and you go, wow. I think if he had access to Shin Lim, he would do that. - Do you think it's really different than, you know when we, I like watching movies with Nick because when something really, really cool happens in like a shot, Nick usually has-- - You talk about movie magic. - I'm talking about movie magic. Nick usually has a really, either the correct answer or a really good guess at how they did something in the movie, that's very impressive. And that is like, that's super interesting. And sometime, and I think, just even learning that is impressive in itself. - I'd say in a way, I'm burdened with that knowledge because I can't watch the movie, like the way a child watches a movie. Which is just like, wow, that was crazy, you know? - I don't think it's a, I get this question a lot when I like dissect humor people like, well that means jokes aren't funny to you because you're thinking about it. And the argument I usually make is that interpreting something in the moment and then dissecting it are two independent, isolated actions. And they don't interfere with each other for me. - Maybe some people they do. - That's how I feel. It's like, I don't think me, if I were to do that after. I don't think it would, it wouldn't ruin my ability to enjoy the show. - I think, but for magic, I like the idea that this, we've been doing this shit as humans since like, as long as we could to like, fool other guys. - But I think what-- - And that's kind of cool. - I think, Aiden and Shake are closer to magicians than you two. - Don't say that to Nick. - I think I don't think so. - I think the desire to see how it works is the desire a magician would have. - I think it's indulgent, but I also don't, I just think there should be a bit of shame about it. It's like, when Shake told me, I look up all the tricks. I don't need to hear that. I don't know what you jack off to. I don't care. I know you jack off, I jack off too. - I think I need to talk about jacking on. - I actually think what you're getting at is a good point in my mind because what annoys me is this like sanctity. That, I think from like an IP perspective of like, my tricks are like special to me and complicated and this is my craft and I need to protect them so like other magicians don't just start copying my shit. I get that part of it. - But there's siege. - But there's this general vibe you get from magicians when they talk about this stuff that like, like me even thinking about how they did the trick is like gross that I've gotten. And I always think that's stupid because one, you are a fucking magician. So you had the exact same thought at some point and you fucking go do that shit. - No, I don't think thinking about how the trick works is a bad thing. I think it's normal. - I think caving to the desire to like, just read the explanation takes away something from what it is. - Because you know what? When, remember that lemon guy? I think it was two evosio. And he put a hundred dollars inside of a lemon. - Yeah, that was awesome. - And it was crazy. - And you know what? I ended up looking up the lemon trick. And what I felt afterwards was a sense of deflation. - Really? - Yeah. - And I was like, "Oh, that's how he did it." - That guy did that to us. And we were there for it. - Yeah. - For me, I've never looked up the lemon trick. I've also seen David Blaine do the lemon trick in someone's house who he's never been to. And the whole time, just like, that's in, I don't know how he could possibly be in the lemon. - And every time somebody's giving me the answer to one of these things, I'm like, "Wow, that's fucking awesome." - I mean, I was like, "Oh, that's impressive." Like Nick said, I was like, "Oh, that's impressive." But in the moment, I was like a chimpanzee in a tree. - You know what I mean? - You don't lose being a chimpanzee. You're still a chimpanzee. And you still sound like a chimpanzee. - I know, I know. But what I determined for myself after watching that video was like, I don't really care to be interested. I don't really care to be impressed anymore. I'd like to be amazed. - I think you two, you two are like, I think I understand what you're saying. But you'd rather be in like the prehistoric time where you think like God's mad at you during the eclipse than to know how it works. - Yes. - Aiden, he is. - But that is a funny way to put it. - He's upset. - You see Aiden, you see Aiden's comment and you wanna get down to your knees and fucking pray. - Yeah. - You don't wanna learn that this is a comment that's going around. - What I wanna do when Halebop comes around, I wanna tie off my genitals and then kill myself with barbituous. - Yes. - And I like to have an answer to do it. - And I like knowing what the eclipse is and I just think it's cool. - Well, maybe he's like, I think Newton. - I think there's like inherently a difference here to take your prompt seriously. - Yeah, yeah. - That because one is something that's somewhat necessary for like our continued understanding of the universe and one is essentially a time making you a balloon at a children's party and you don't need to understand it. - Yeah, there's a comfort in that fun. - But I think you don't know the stakes until you ask the questions. - Like to me, like I think like WWE is made worse, the more you understand how they fake some of the stunts, whereas like if you just watch it, it feels like they're hurting each other. And that's crazy. - You were also just fun about WWE, sometimes they do it bad. And you're like, you didn't hit 'em at all, but you're like, ah, it's so good. - Yeah, when they do the stuff, like they do punch them, like kind of stomp their legs. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And I'm like, okay. - And that feeling of, all good is, I think important. I don't know. - Or human performers. - I feel like wrestling fans can speak better to this. - I feel like wrestling fans have a really intimate understanding of how it's fake, how it is faked. And they enjoy it more for that. They enjoy like the performance art of it. Like it's a play. - I think they enjoy the lore. And they treat the lore as if it's somewhat real. They of course they know it's fake, that's stupid. - No, but I think they're more likely to understand the execution. - They're more likely to watch a good behind-the-scenes video that they'll drop. - Raise your hand if you've actually been a wrestling match. - Okay. - When they hit the fucking-- - I'm gonna be honest, I've raised my hand, I haven't. - I have. - That's crazy. - I have. - I can claim. - I can claim. - I think I like doing it. - I can claim. - That's okay. - Sometimes you just like to raise your hand. - No, it also lying's cool. - That's part of my shake story. I will get there. - Wait, something about pro wrestling, 'cause I went to, and it was called at the time, and probably still is called to this day, midget wrestling. More appropriate term, probably little person wrestling. Anyway, part of my story too. Me and my friend in college went in suits, and it was very fun, and it was a little sad, because one of the guys kept begging the people in the front to staple $10 to his four. (laughing) - That's really happened. - I gotta have that happen. - And nobody wanted to do it. - No, I don't wanna do it. - So it kinda looked like, it looked just like really sad. But, when they, when you've come down on the specific wrestling ring mat, it makes a crazy sound, and that sound evokes like a whoa, from us. And that's why wrestling is cool, especially in person. - I think I can be the monkey, and I can be Isaac Newton. - I think you can be neither. - What's the rest of your shake story then? - So, me and Shake, run around all together. Awesome, a ho-older one with her husband going to see Shindlin, it's great. - No way, you didn't become this woman's third. - No, I was close to coming to become this. I even had to ask my girlfriend, can I become their third? - How'd the husband look? Would you have float bubbles on it? - No, I was just, on him, no, no, no, no. I made a tweet actually, it was like Vegas be like, here's the hottest woman we've ever seen in her woman, and her husband that looks like a leopard ed too. Jockey, it kind of started with these two. He didn't look that, he didn't, just like a bald guy was like 10 years old in her. - Okay. - It was fine. But she's out of his like, whatever. But that was every one of this. - That's my dad, that's your dad. - That's me and my girlfriend besides dad. - I agree, I think your dad's kind of bad. [BLANK_AUDIO] You tears below your dad, your dad, your dad definitely's got it. I mean your mom definitely is way hog your mom and your mom is insane. I was texting your mom today. Bucky, beautiful, your mom's awesome. Take her to Shen Lim. Huh? I was texting her today. We don't send words to me and your mom. (laughing) Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don't try him. I thought I thought, bro. Thank God you wanted to go back to the venue. We were pretty fucked with the Aria. We getting to an Uber. And we got to an Uber with the guy that we were calling the driving gooner. (laughing) This is what it was like. So the guy's got a fedora on. And you know what some guys, they're kind of like, they got a thing you can tell they want to talk about but they're being a little coy about it. The guy wasn't coy. All we said was he was like, hey, what's up guys? We're like, hey, where are you from? California. He's like, oh, how you like in Las Vegas? I'm like, it's cool. I don't know if I could live here though. It's a little hot and shakes like no income tax though. That was all it took was no income tax though. And this guy launched into a, yeah, well, they're trying to inject dark kids and make them girls. So, and I was, and me and Shake, like without even a heartbeat skip to go. Mm-hmm. (laughing) Yeah, I heard about that. Yeah, I heard about that. I heard about that happened to fucking someone I know. You know they're doing it to sky now. You know they're dropping it from the sky. And this is-- And this is-- This is like all he needed to start rapid firing, like all his craziest beliefs. He's like, he's like, they're putting Chinese boys in it us. And I'm like, I think I have it to fucking me. (laughing) He was saying things like he'd point at the fucking plants and he'd be like those plants don't even belong here. And I'm like, I don't even know what that means. But I agree, of course. (laughing) And Shake goes, hey man, like what are like, like oh, he this guy points out like this is the best place to get pizza. It looks like a dumpster. Like it looks like a bad place to get food. This is the best pizza in town. Shake is like, what are the best strip clubs? This guy says verbatim. He says, if you want a place that has that holy hole, the type of hole they'll put up on your nose so you can smell it. That's what he said. - Yuck. Then you gotta go to, he starts rattling off. - Oh, there's multiple places. He had multiple holy sites. - He must have had like eight strip clubs that he had already to tell us. - He afford it. - I don't know, 'cause he's just a juber driver. But he starts saying, you know, where you can get the best holy hole. And he goes, reminded me from what you said, using a word that I'm quoting verbatim. He said, they even got midgets. Shake says, oh, my friend here loves those. (laughing) And I'm in lying mode, right? - Shoot. - So I'm like, little people love 'em to death. So you're saying they're at the strip club, sign me up and yeah, we pull up. We finally get to the venue and there was a lot more to the sky set, but it's all in the same vein. He's talking about how Trump's gonna save the world, he's talking, he was saying very, very, very inappropriate things about AOC. - Me and the bag of the car, like, I mean, like, if we were both, if we were both girls, maybe alone. (laughing) - What do you think we would do? - And what we would do with each other. - When we're both, but we both, our girls. (laughing) - You said we were made from the sky. - We were slipping in failure. He would say like a disgusting, we said, holding what AOC and then we'd be like, "I'd even do it to Trump." (laughing) - He can't hear those parts. Like, he kind of talks right past those parts. He's like, "Hey, what are you saying?" We finally pull up to the venue and a Mexican man who's job at the, it's important to the story, who's job at the venue is to come and just like, open the door and be like, "Hello, welcome to "The Lost Faced Convention Center." Our driver rolls the window down and says, "Do you speak Japanese to which the guy just kinda looks and goes, what is he, what are you asking?" And we're like, "Bye, thanks for the ride." And we get out of the car. He points to us to the guy and he goes, "These guys love Trump." (laughing) - And we're like, we're like, "Ah, yeah." (laughing) All right, man, bye. - That's when Lion goes wrong. - That's when you say it. - He's semi-definished. - So fearfully, he's a price for your fun. - Did you do the right thing after? What, not tip him on the app? - No. - What? - What did you rate him? I didn't rate him at all. I just didn't tip him on the app. - He's still good. - I could, I could, I could go back now, 'cause I never tied him at the button. - Go back and give him his five. (laughing) - Dude, I'm fucking right, bro. - Something suspiciously similar happened to me. - I did it because me. - Oh, you went to Dallas, Texas. - Yeah, me and Alex. Alex from Sweden flies all the way out so we can go to the Sweden-Japan game in Dallas, Texas. - Yes, from Sweden, I saved a thousand calendars to make this barbecue place. - I want to hunt this syrup on this place. - Why is this player not to blow on the player? (laughing) - He was kind of, Alex was kind of being like that. - Very black, 'cause I don't want to go, 'cause the name. - Who was it exactly? (laughing) - Why is this name here, right? - I'm not sure if you'll see. - I would do a lot. (laughing) - It's where like, it is me, Alex, and for people who've listened to a lot of yard, you'll remember Scott gaming. - That is our crew for this. - Yes, Scott, just, I guess if you listen to a lot of yard. (laughing) - No. - And we're at the game together. And it's, we're at like Jerry Jones's complex that he has crafted in Arlington, Texas. So you like, everybody's leaving the game. - Dallas. - And going, Dallas. - It's in Arlington. - Is it? - Yeah. - He went, dude. - I also went. Is it like an hour away? Is it an hour away? - I think it is. - I don't know. - Are you sure it's in Arlington? - Yeah. - If it's in Dallas, it's in Dallas. - Dallas Cowboys. - Cowboys. - Oh, fucking cow. - So the Arlington Cowboys. - Cowboys. - And that's no. - And we walk over to these big sections of bars where everybody's hanging out afterwards. And they're like outdoor. There's a watch party for the USA match. Super good time. But one thing is I learned that all of our female fans are in Texas because I never in my life, I feel like I never meet female yard fans ever. That's like not who's recognizing me. - No, what do we do? - It's just not. - That's pretty much it. - That's not our demographic. It's 90-10 now. - It is what it is. - It's gonna take off. - You guys have to pick it up. - You used to be 85-15. - Well, my YouTube channel I have more women. - It's gonna turn around. - It's gonna turn around because it's in the air. - Yeah, finally. And we're in that one evening. I met three women yard fans back-to-back-to-back. It was like waitress hostess. Like person out, just person out. I was like this is extremely weird 'cause Scott and Alex are like don't, we don't hang out that much. And they're like this is critical. - I'm critical. - All with the fuck is this. And then over the course of the evening, all these people from Texas keep telling us to go to the same area in Fort Worth. And this one bar keeps coming up called Filthy McNasties. And we're like, we have to go to Filthy McNasties, of course. And so we want our Texas like night out. We head out, we get to this bar by like probably midnight. And it's not super busy, but a lot of people who are in town from the World Cup are there. And then a bunch of like typical Dallas like patrons are hanging out. You know, cowboy hats, you know, typical stuff you see at Texas bars. - Trust the builder, Esk. - And they're, and they're tried to build her Esk. - Okay. - They tried to build her with the cowboy hat. - Right. - Where's the one? - What do they use to? - I only see him within the mug shots. I've only seen that. - They didn't let him out of the cowards. - Aye. - And we, we start talking to some of these people. They're immediately excited 'cause they see the jerseys. And they think we're all from Sweden. It's only Alex. And they're like welcome, like thanks for coming out. Like, and everybody's real nice. And we're talking to this one guy for a while. In the same reaction, every time somebody finds out that I live in Los Angeles, it's like an immediate. Like, oh, oh my God, like are things okay with you? Or like, why do you live there? - And you're like, there's so many dogs and so many coffee shops. - And we're talking to this one, we're talking to this one older cowboy. And he, we've been talking for like 10 minutes. And he's like, I was just, he's drunk. And he's like, I fucking, and just so you guys know, like it's, I know it's, whatever you want to call it, I'm, I'm Maga. - Yeah, I'm Maga. - And then Frank's coming out as gay. - Yeah. - And he says, like, this is not prompted by like the earlier part of the conversation at all. And he pulls over his friend. He's like, this guy, this guy's from California. And he comes over, you know, had like baseball cap on, American flag, full beard. And he's like, what's up? What's up? Oh, Los Angeles fucking terrible, fucking terrible. San Diego though, San Diego best place on earth. Love San Diego. And then he's, we keep talking with him for a while. We're learning a bit more about him. And he's like, this weekend, you got to take your boy to TJ. You got to go head down. I'm like, oh, T1, that's, yeah, yeah, maybe. We're not going to go. And then, and then there's a gap in the conversation. We just start talking about other things. Out of the blue like five, 10 minutes later, he's like, you're bringing a Hong Kong? - Okay. - And I was like, just came back. - Oh, yeah, like all the time. Like I've, yeah. I've probably got like once a year. And he's like, that's, you go, you go to Hong Kong once a year. Isn't there amazing? And I'm like, yeah, I mean, it's an incredible city, incredible city. And I was like, have you, did you, do you go a lot? Do you like fly over there or something? And he's like, what? No, I mean, you just go over the border. And I was like, what are you, what are you talking about? And he's like, Hong Kong is like three. Is that big building Tijuana? You know what I'm talking about and I was like I have no idea what you're talking about I'm talking about Hong Kong the city. That's what I'm talking about and he's like oh You're gonna love it when you go to T.J. Three floors. Oh My god, it's a gentleman's club It's like this guy this and this guy goes goes on a whole spiel hundreds of girls They'll do any of it. We need to we need to go to T.J. stat like this That's what you gotta go to HK and T.J. Oh my god. Wait, there's a Macau section click the Macau section And go in the club Macau Yeah, wow the new Pearl of Hong Kong. Oh, they got their whole oh Macau is a place within Hong Kong Right, which is it because it is a separate special administration to bring you like a party zone It's very very good. It's like calling your your club Connecticut. Yeah, I can also come to New Hampshire Yeah, the Hong Kong stripper gallery All right, oh god. Oh, wow In your Hong Kong car she I need you to be You need to reserve your Hong Kong like room on your app You gotta have the account to see the gallery. Come on Just go to T.J. and skip all the fucking account bullshit. Yeah, yeah, dude, that's cool that he said it so like like casually like oh you've been in Hong Kong Like like I would know you should know I think I really I actually realized after he brings this up that I did know about it Because channel five did a video about it. Really. Yes. Well, what about it? That's the was the video called going to Hong Kong Everyone's like what they're interviewing a bunch of Women who who work at Hong Kong and like other areas in in Tijuana basically where they like really good experience And being like come down get awesome. Do you think that guy knows it's a country? It's crazy because by the end like when I said it's a city. He did seem confused Yeah, I mean, I don't think he considers ever going to it and Then he did get he was like oh is a Hong Kong is you know, it should return to the mainland Oh, no, that's a special administrative region. He's got it all mixed up. Excuse me Sex worker established for Tijuana Three stories was he wasn't quite like that restores all horse shit, and there was one guy So we leave we leave this place and it we had a really it was actually amazing We had our amazing text his night. It was it was kind of awesome and We we've run into this guy who's like six five. He's ripped. He says he's from Oklahoma And he's just like he just kind of tags on to our group and we're walking down the street that the all these bars are on And he sees a woman like a loan on the opposite side of the street and he was like and now that's why I love Texas It just points at her. Yeah, like dials had her to and then we're and then we're like dude Maybe like don't don't do that like that's it and then she she looks over and then she walks over to us And she's like hey, I'm actually from the UK and then she and then she joins our group and then they immediately start making out like No, I'm not kidding it was it was insane because he just pointed she was like not from Texas and then they just click But they keep walking with us. Yeah, this is pretty common. This has been like a huge phenomenon because the world cup But Americans are having sex crazy style Oh, it's finally our time because of all the tourists coming and then the Americans going to world cup games Freaking it everybody's swiping everybody's fucking they're putting tongues and butts and fingers and butts I think you're about to hold on those even that I've developed that I've developed from from a Tell me your theory tell me your theory date. It was in in high school when you went to like school dances and things like that I think you you watch it like in movies like kids would be like party and crazy and hook it up and doing all this stuff But at my school like people didn't really do that or like we were in this We would go to this like state competitions or like conventions for things related to school at the state things like Nothing really happened either it like kind of did we went to a national like conference one year at the national Conference fucking everybody everybody was fucking there. I think everybody is like I have my like crazy trip that I'm on But they're so free ever see me again, and it's gonna be over There's so many dual citizenship children in like nine months from now. Not after this Supreme Court tomorrow Well, what they're gonna decide on it. They're gonna decide on shame Drizzle yeah imagine even a woman for the UK and you're like oh, I'm gonna see a cowboy's but whole but you're also from Australia What happened literally at right after is we keep walking we're like they're still with us And then we hear an Australian accent and me and Scott instantly proc because we're like Aussies What are they doing here dude? It's a Aussie cowboy he he's like from Adelaide And he lives in Dallas now and works on a ranch, and we and we just like chum it up with this guy while the other two make out in the back Advanced racist yeah, Australian cowboy like I should I belong in Texas. Yeah, yeah, you've you found your home You're so you're just like kind of like a final fantasy party. I was yeah, it was kind of collecting everyone Everyone has an ability to move fucking crazy on walka. Oh What? They grew up together. It's kind of fucked up that they End up. It's all right. It's fine. It is what it is because she was with his I know that's kind of bad I know bro dude I went to a world cup game, and I have to put Leslie Foo on blast that fucking raging Friend friend friend of mine. Yeah, what you do you're gonna you're gonna be on my side in a moment here I'm not right now because you're really aggressive toward a woman. I drove Okay, cuz I the terror invited me to a world cup game He's like let's meet here. We'll Uber together. I'm driving as I'm driving somebody pulls up next to me This happens all the time my K truck and they're like fucking nice truck pulls up next to I rolled out I wouldn't have to crank it so I'm cranking and then he goes flat tire Oh, and I go and I go nice ride, huh? He's like flat tire, and I look he's fucking right my tires crazy flat So I'm close to home so I pull over like a random like Wendy's Oh, and then I and I and I just get a Uber to to worst with me and After the game I'm with me young and Leslie and they offered to give me a ride back to my car I'm like that'd be great cuz I need to drive it back home to get a fix We're getting in me young's car. I see the car. I say shotgun. No blitz Okay, yeah, Leslie sprints to the car Gets into the shotgun seat didn't say time machine or she didn't say any she didn't say anything at all So she blitzed when it was what's the next step after time machine so Bama when you say there's a lot of there's problematic ones She says nothing gets into shotgun. Right. I stand next to shotgun. I go get out Yeah, get out I said shotgun like you might as well just rip it out of the car There's counter play there is counter play there's counter play isn't the counter play it doesn't know she goes I don't know what no blitzes and I go well they know what shotgun is cuz I did call it does know a shotgun is I could call and I go I don't know what the night does you can't take exactly exactly I call shotgun after seeing the car You have to get in the back. She says I don't want to get in the back because we're gonna give you a ride and Then I'm gonna be the back seat and then there's the ride's gonna continue and I go I don't care get out again The front of would be so logical. I didn't call shotgun. Is there nothing is there not an inch of you that looks at her and says you know what I'm turning 31 next week That's what ends up happening. Adan is I sit there indignant for like a good like actual 90 seconds That's a long time and and I can feel her buckling and that she does one final stands her ground She goes no it'd be weird and I get in the back Oh, and I go people will hear about this. Oh, yeah, I'm making life hell. I don't know You got to just really make it a horrible problem for everybody you gave up after 90 seconds make it hurt She was a terrorist all fucking you start walking down the street. You're gonna walk to your car. Oh my god They got to pull up next to you. I low key needed the ride I was they offered me the ride it was a far wall. You don't want to get called No, I don't want to get called up. You start to take your shoes off and hold them as you walk The whole fucking day she was a bit of a terrorist because we go to this world cup game and it's clear bag policy She's a big floppy bag So she gets like Another bag they sell clear bags for people like her and and she puts all of her stuff in it for people who need help Huh for people who need help for people like her who need help and and I was kind of being asshole She's like can you hold my rebel? I drink the whole thing That's good and she's like can you hold my phone. She's already Amazon carded the same bag. I Add like $400 robux cards Oh my god And then and then and then we're walking and she puts a $1,000 bet on turkey winning Turkey's O2 at this tournament. This is their third game. They are not favorites That has to be strong odds to it's like four to one. She stands to make like $2,800 about okay and. - I like the math on that. - Okay. 2800 make 28. So 3800 return and so she puts a thousand which is kind of a crazy bet. USA scores within two minutes. Yeah. So instantly her bet drops then Turkey scores. Okay. Then then Turkey scores again. Now she has the opportunity to cash out for an extra $1,000. There's only Turkish people there. They're all like cash out. Fucking get out of there, bro. You can make the Turkish people. Do you're allowed to cash your bet out before the game? Yeah. That's like the whole thing with prediction markets. Is that you're not making a bet. You're in the market. It's crazy. Your bet. It's why it's legally allowed. It should be illegal and it will be in four years. But the Trump administration won't do anything. Eric Trump's on like the board for calcium. You keep it in Vegas. That's why Vegas is 108 degrees. We all go there and we get punished for being there. And it feels like your inside of your drawer is gone. It's good. We go in your hell and it's there. I'm never doing that again. You do it again. Also next year. They have a lot of board members from a lot of different places. No need to know what the president's son is a board member is one of them. It's I feel like you're only noting him. I'm just saying a little weird. They have a lot of board members that have a lot of knowledge in that whole company where they own the tucks and deal with Kazakhstan. It's like it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Is that any of that company? You probably want to base off the merit of the company. Is it because you pulled the last minute of the Turkey USA game? I'm sure it'll come up. You look up last goal. You don't know about this. I assume. So a football game is 90 minutes. Yeah. And then you know, there's the added time. This game was at the 98th minute. Those 90 minutes they added 8 minutes of time is that it's actually at 97 minutes in like 56 seconds. The game is tied to two. If it ties, she loses her bet because the bet is a Turkey win. And then this happens with like on ironically over time at this point. It's already 7 over 90. But the only reason they didn't end it is because there was like an injury during over time. Is USA what? USA is blue. That was Turkey. That was Turkey like 53 seconds after it might have ended at the very final second and they score and they win their only game. They're still limited from the tournament and they beat USA. Oh my god. The beauty of this too is that USA didn't need the win. Yeah. Because we're already out of it affected nothing for USA. But it's huge for Turkey who had literally not scored a goal before this game. And it was huge for Lesley. And she popped off crazy and then didn't give me shotgun. And she's a bitch. Sorry. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. It's it. It's it's it's lowering. It's going to be like 92 8 by the end of the episode. It's going to be it's going to be. It's going to be it's going to do what they wanted. You just go. Oh. Oh. No. I have room because I was in a suite that he got with like only Turkish fans. So they all went fucking crazy. They smell like dog surgery and they all and they all went. They all smell really good. It's my like a cologne and they all were going. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. And then this is how you say like fuck you in Turkey. They're all like you see a Turkish person do this. Oh my god. That isn't right. Oh. It's just gross. And they're like they're like doing the thing where like it means hello. And it's like I can just tell. I can tell if it is nothing nice. Oh. So you do that to your mom. They say hello to your mom. That looks really bad. It looks much worse than a simple middle finger. You're leaning too heavily in your Greek. Your Greek roots. No. I don't think I'm leaning heavily enough. Hey. They're awful people. This is from the Turks. Yeah. Oh. Oh. That's a turd. Oh. I like that. You know what the Greek said? That's it. That's what we got. What's that? What's that? He's saying he's saying like like gyros like. Oh. I can't say. I'm just he won't know what I'm saying. I'm trying to say like a bad thing. I hit a lot. Oh. Just it's not it's land. No, it is. He doesn't say it. He doesn't say it. He does this yummy. I did give you. Oh. I'm really going to quickly answer you this question. Yes. I never get it. Got to it. I go up or down. Lost 3k when I got there. I went on a heroic journey. I went on. It was heroic what I did. Every Nick Vegas story is like, yeah, I went down 3,700 and then now I went fucking one of one hundred dollars. It basically. And so was an adventure to get that. In the long story short, I played a lot of blackjack. I had about a hundred dollars left and I was like no more ATM trips. I already went three times. This is my last hundred dollars. Ran that hundred dollars up to about like 4,400. Whoa. See, here's the deal. Why don't you just go with $100? That's like what I made. So I only went up like, you know, well, that's a crazy journey. Why don't you just go to Vegas with a hundred dollars. Then you just make 4,400 without ever having to lose it. Yeah. And that's facts. And shout out to this guy Blake. I was sitting on the table with for a very long time. He got out of his street fighter pool. Shout out. And we both made a lot of money together and it was really fun. Dude, but I had the way I ended up up was I had a thousand dollar chip and I put it on black. With my last thing I was doing before going to the airport. It misses. It felt bad. Yeah. The guy next to me looks at me. He's like, if you want to go again, I'll ride with you. And I was like, you'll ride with me and he started. He was playing the board. He took all his money off the board. He put it all on whatever color I wanted to go on. I ride with this guy. $750 on black. It hits. Y'all got each other's hand in each other's back pockets. Yeah, we're holding each other. We're gripping each other's put another thousand on black. It hits. I got out of there. I go to the airport. I'm clean. That's a good fucking. That's what I try to do is I put I was going to the airport. I had a 5k chip. I put it on roulette black. It hits. And then I put the 10k on one blackjack hand. I was like, I go home with fucking champion. This was alone. Yeah. And I just got fried. That's what I told you. I was like, just play tomorrow. That's what I did. Okay, so you did go back. Yes. And that's how I lost the remainder of money. I wanted to get a text that you were just like, it was heroic. What have been? I gave myself a shot. It just didn't pan out. There was one guy. Slime Teddy's valid. I think it's funny. There's this guy who I was playing. You know what, you hit a vibe at a table where you're completely alone. You're in the dealer. You're sharing small things, but really no one's speaking. And you're just playing. I had one of the awesome tables. And I was grandfathered into my minimum, which was 50. They already raised it to like fucking way above that. I was grandfathered and so it's cool. And I'm sitting there and this man comes up. He was like the Indian Don Corleone. That's what I said. He looked like he comes up. He's got like the puppy cheeks. He got a suit on. He sits down. He's like kind of like disgruntled. And he he starts playing multiple hands at like $200 each hand. And he has not he didn't win any hands. He lost all his hands, probably like seven to 10 hands in a row. He goes, I can't win any fucking hands gaming fucking hands. And then he stops playing and for an hour and a half, watched me play without saying a word. This sits next to me and watches when I put chips. But I hit doesn't say a word. And he just watch. Even the great artists of their time used to watch Mozart. You just watch silence. And I was losing. I was losing every single hand with him until he stopped it. And then I, that's when I went up. That's when I made like four grand. You fed off his energy. I think he was feeding me the energy. I think he was giving me that he was like giving me the, I will, I will sit on this and I'll watch you. Did you ever lean over and like give him a tip? He left. He left before I could even kiss him or anything. Do you remember what happened on the plane? Hmm. Remember what? Yeah. That was so odd. Did you guys all fly back together? No, I just fucking kissed. I just flew out of the neck and we kissed going in. And I was a real piece of shit because like, we both have the same flight. I get there 20 minutes for it leaves. And I see a line. I'm like, I'm gonna get a fucking bagel on a coffee. Nick's already on the plane. I'm the last one on the plane with my fucking bagel and coffee. He don't have shit. Yeah, it's like a bitch. I'm bitched by him. I'm, I'm, dude, fucking good. He was late to the airport. It was late. He was like five minutes till we depart, not bored. And he decides that he still has time to get a bagel. The bagels in the toaster and I'm looking at the line and it's like getting really thin. I'm like, you might want to pull that. I don't care if I have to eat it. And he's like, that's you. And I'm like, yeah, he's like, wow, it's crazy. Fucking ordered. And we get on the plane. We're fucking talking and we're, and we're, and we're just talking about life. Life, we're life talking. We're dumping out each other. It is mostly like Nick talking. And I'm just going, mm-hmm. Yeah, offering little nuggets every one for a while, but really just being an active listener. I heard that. Yeah. And we land. We're collecting all our things. Lady in front of me turns around means over the sea. And she goes, I just want to say, looks at me, you're a great listener. No, no. She said, oh, she said, no, she said, I just want to say, uh, I love your language skills. That's it. I love your language. I love to love it. And then without even letting it all be respond, like walks away. Yes. And we couldn't figure out. It, it felt like she was being passive aggressive. Like you were too loud and she was trying to fucking, but she said a lot of way. I was, she knew I was the one speaking. She knew that it was me. There's no way. I was the, she turned around. I was still talking. So she saw that I was the one talking basically the whole type of language. We had a huge debate whether it was genuine or whether I said like a curse word she didn't like. Ooh, because I couldn't tell. But Nick was like also, you know what I mean? Yeah, it was just, yeah, I can talk loud. So it was weird because she looked right at him. Didn't say anything to me. She's like, I appreciate your language skills. Maybe she means he cursed. He didn't curse. I appreciate that you didn't swear. It could have been something that she wanted to say to me, but like didn't have the nuts. Yeah. She's passive refusals to Nick, not you. Because like in reality, like the compliments warranted. He's being a great listener. In me, in me kind of talking very vulnerable to him, right? So he's deserving of someone complimenting him, I guess. But the, the like the body language of like immediately leaving after saying it. Yeah, it's kind of like it was weird, but I think I just listened so fucking crazy. Get it? He was a lot of language, though. You listen so hard. I listened so hard that your language, maybe in front was like which mesmerized with me not talking. It was a language. And what few words you did say stuck with her? Yeah, it was like me going bitch. He sounds like a pussy. Yeah. It was so strange. Okay, guys, we're at time. I do have one last thing though. What do you want to do? I had a realization. Do you want to see it? because you all went to Evo. You had a nice weekend. - Yeah. - And I started to feel a rare feeling. I don't feel it very often. A little FOMO. - FOMO. - But I realize I don't need to, because of the one other thing that comes with the win. - But I'm the guy. - So I made a bet. - Oh yeah. - So I made the bet. - So I made it. We're all hanging out on fourth. We're all going to the big bear together. And so I'm like, I don't want to go. I don't want to go. But I will go if love will wins this match. - Yeah, now you come. - Yeah. - Now you come for me. - Yeah, it's going to suck. - I'm going to watch you come for me. - You will be with us. - I don't want to come for you. - I'm going to be your guy. - You're going to come for me, because you made a bet. - You have to come for me. - I do. I'm a man of my word. - Polaroid moment. - Polaroid moment. - I can't believe you guys liked this shit. You only are going because your girlfriend's want to go. - No. - We live together. - I like when you come for me. I don't care about the rest of the details. - I like it. - What's your final thing you want to leave off with? - I was getting on the plane to get there. I'm coming up to the, and there's a woman taking your thing, right, in your smartphone, and she's black. And this is important because I'm like right up there, and that's guy behind me. I just hear him say, "Black fatigue." And I'm like, "What?" And I'm like, "That's something you get nailed in a ring." - I did, in the co-op mod. And I turn around, and it's probably this 50-year-old Asian guy. And I turn around, and I was like, "What'd you say, dude?" And he's kind of taken it back because I think he thought he said it under his breath, but he didn't. And he's like, "Oh, you hear what I said, man." And I'm like, "You say shit like that all the time?" You didn't say it very loud, is it because you're worried about what people would think if you did say it? And we keep walking, and you know, she takes her, and it takes her, and we move past her. And then I'm like, "So you just say shit like that." But you say it kind of quiet. You make sure you say it quiet. I'm pressing the sky, all the sky bridge. And he's like, "Yeah, I mean, if I said it too loud, it becomes a whole thing, everyone's too PC these days." And I'm like, "No, dude, I think you don't say that loud enough, and then I'm really, I'd say because you have the body of a child, and if you said anything, then you would have to put up your body of a child that you have, and I'm saying it's so loud. People on the sky bridge are like laughing. They don't know what this is about, but they know we're arguing, and they know that they keep saying that. You have the body of a child, and he's like, "I don't know, man, you know, I'm a small guy, but I have a lot of scraps on my life, but I bet it could take someone like you." I'm like, "How?" How would you do that? [laughter] And he's like, "Whoa, what are you going to do? You're going to kick my ass?" I'm like, "I'm not going to do anything. I'm just talking to you because you said something insane." And he's like, "Okay, you know, I can hurt you, bro. I can hurt you." And I say, "One arm." And I said, "I could kill you." [laughter] And then I said that to him. And I said that to him straight up on the sky bridge. And there's a guy holding his baby just laughing. And then we kept, we kept kind of just going back and forth in this loop, but we're getting on the same plane, right? [laughter] And I. Oh, damn, this is all the sky bridge getting on the plane. That's, bro. Oh, my God. [laughter] And I go and I sit down first because my seat's there. And he's like, "Oh, good thing, good thing. I'm sitting right next to you." And I said, "Oh, really? I'm going to make this flight miserable for you, bro." And he looks and he's like, "No, I'm just kidding. I'm up here." And he keeps walking. 'Cause Southwest don't do pick your ass. Southwest? Yeah, they don't. And the odds would have been great. The odds of them insane. And I was kind of hoping, so I made a tweet because we ended up sitting on the runway for like an hour. And I made a tweet at United saying that, "We've been here for an hour. Hey guys, and while here your whole plane staff started molesting this old guy." [laughter] Yeah. What I wanted to say to you guys and even the pilot, what I wanted to do was have him be still mad at me to come talk to me and immediately pull up my phone, not him not knowing I said this. And immediately I'll say, "Hey, bro, tell him what they did to you." And he would just say whatever he was about to say. Maybe threatening or maybe upset. And then I would go, "This is the time." [laughter] What? [laughter] [laughter] But he ended up for Christmas. He ended up just not, he walked right after me. I wanted to begin. No. I sat on one of the seats near kind of waiting for him. And he walks by and I look up at him. And I'm just smiling and he just nods his head and keeps walking. That was my impression. Did the lady say anything? She didn't hear any of it. She heard any of it? Yeah. It was just, it was a conversation that was quiet enough and she was obviously busy. Yeah. And it's also like kind of shitty. It's like, "Just what this guy just said, right?" No, I just assumed she had heard it because there's a lot on that. Is that like a phrase that it's existed before? He made that up? No, I think he just made it up. I never heard of it. Exactly. This whole thing is like anybody who falls into the tar trap of you would never, like you would never step to me online. You only say this for likes. Anybody who says that about you any time. No. It's just what it's like. It's funny. It's fair. If this guy was like a hundred pounds on me and six, eight, I don't think I would have said as much as I would have said. I still would have said something. I would be like, you say that to people. But if he starts like, you know, if this guy was like, I'm going to break your like chicken neck. I'd be like, you know what? Yeah. I'm a realist. But I kind of lose this. I, you know, I was privileged enough to be born to stronger than this could be arguing with the guy who had the body of a child. So you, because like he almost didn't tell this story. You know what I mean? Like it's end of the episode. Yeah, I remember it because of you guys started with the plan. That's how about it. He is. Is that this is almost forget about the love of the game. I just, you know what? It's because I didn't get the fuck in the final coup d'état of the guy getting the lesson on the plane and because I would have put all my camera like, yeah, you know, you're always people always, you all talk, you all, all you do is talk. And it's like, yeah, he's fucked up. They fucked up. He's all weird now. Anyway, guys, I hope you know, there are lines doesn't do anything like that to you or your loved ones. And I hope you keep it nice and chill and not racist. And we'll see you in the primo where we're going to have sea dog on every single week this month. Oh, yeah, he committed to it. He did say that. Dear.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The conversation revolves around a fighting game show match, with Ludwig defeating Tyler1 using a deceptive strategy involving a fake "JP" character, leading to guilt and moral reflection.
  2. Ludwig expresses regret over wasting Tyler1's time and humiliating him, comparing himself to a villain or a general using unfair tactics, though others argue the win was valid.
  3. They discuss Tyler1's playstyle (modern controls, Guile), the FGC community reaction, and the controversy over Ludwig's banter that overshadowed tournament results.
  4. The group shares stories from EVO, including gambling losses in Vegas, a wild Uber driver with conspiracy theories, and an encounter with a Texas cowboy who confused Hong Kong with a Tijuana strip club.
  5. They debate magic tricks (whether to look up how they're done), wrestling, and character choices in fighting games, with philosophical takes on amazement versus understanding.
  6. A comedic bit about Nick falling through his mattress leads to a Helix Sleep sponsorship plug.
  7. They discuss Tekken, Street Fighter ranking systems, and the differences between modern and classic controls, with critiques of the "master" rank.

Summary:

The transcript captures a casual, lengthy conversation among friends, likely on a podcast, centered on their experiences at EVO and a high-profile show match. Ludwig reflects on his victory over Tyler1, where he used a fake "JP" strategy to exploit Tyler's lack of matchup knowledge. Despite winning, Ludwig feels remorse, describing himself as a "villain" who wasted Tyler's time and humiliated a likable opponent, even comparing the situation to a general bringing a gun to a sword fight.

His co-hosts push back, arguing Tyler's playstyle—using modern controls and a defensive Guile—deserved to be punished, and that Ludwig's guilt is misplaced. The discussion expands to FGC culture, with Ludwig's on-stage banter about giving Street Fighter views sparking more Twitter discourse than the actual tournament winners, like a player going undefeated in Rivals. They also share chaotic Vegas stories, including gambling losses at craps and blackjack, a bizarre Uber ride with a conspiracy theorist driver, and a Texas bar encounter with a cowboy who mistakenly thinks Hong Kong is a Tijuana sex club.

Philosophical debates arise about magic tricks—whether understanding how they work ruins amazement—and character choices in fighting games as reflections of personality. The episode blends humor, self-reflection, and gaming analysis, ending with a sponsored segment for Helix Sleep after a joke about Nick's mattress breaking.

FAQs

Ludwig hired someone to watch all of Tyler1's VODs and used a deceptive strategy, including a fake 'JP' character, to waste Tyler1's time and gain an advantage.

Ludwig feels bad because he liked Tyler1 as a person and thought the fake JP strategy was too far, wasting Tyler1's time, especially since Tyler1 has kids.

Modern controls reduce motion inputs and enable auto-combos and single-button supers, but they limit access to certain moves and reduce super damage to 80% scaling compared to Classic controls.

Ludwig lost most of his money at craps and blackjack, including a $10,000 bet on a single hand, and ended up giving away his remaining chips to friends.

Ludwig and Shake had an Uber driver who shared extreme conspiracy theories, made inappropriate comments about AOC, and recommended strip clubs, leading them to awkwardly agree and not tip him.

In Fort Worth, a cowboy recommended a Tijuana strip club called 'Hong Kong,' confusing it with the city, and led to a bizarre conversation about its three-story gentleman's club.

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