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Speaker 4I feel fucked up saying this. It's scary being a public speaker. And I mean, look, ever since that guy, Charlie Kirk, got murdered, and I shouldn't say this publicly, but I feel better.
Speaker 5I know I shouldn't say that, but it's just a feeling.
Speaker 6That is Dave Chappelle, comedian. Now, listen, comedians are held to a different standard than other people, mainly because they're not the same. They're not the same. Mainly because they're joking. But that right there is not really a joke. It's not even close to a joke. It is a reflection of deep and underlying hatred. And let's just be clear, the supposedly tolerant, optimistic left is filled with it. What Dave Chappelle says there that, you know, when Charlie Kirk was shot, he felt better. I mean, that is who many on the left are at root. Now, as we'll explore, there are, you know, members of the Democratic Party who don't feel this way, but there are also a lot of Democrats who pretend to be uncomfortable with this stuff and actually are pretty okay with this stuff. There's certainly a game being played in which many of the pseudo-moderates of the Democratic Party pretend to dislike the radicals and then promptly work with them to shove the Overton window, the range of acceptable discourse, far to the left. Now, Dave Chappelle will hide behind the fact that he's a comedian because, again, this is the game. Clown nose on, clown nose off. I'm a political analyst when I don't wish to be taken as a joke. But the minute I say something controversial, well, the clown nose is back on and it was all a joke. Now, actually, we can tell the difference between a joke and not really a joke. So, in fact, Chappelle told another joke that same night. That's not getting quite the same play for a reason. It's a bad joke, but it does live in the joke universe.
Speaker 5I'm sure Charlie Kirk is looking up at us right now.
Speaker 6Now, again, if you couldn't hear that, he is basically just taking a joke that Tony Hinchcliffe did during the roast of Kevin Hart back in May about the murder of George Floyd, where Tony Hinchcliffe said, the black community is so proud of you right now. George Floyd is looking up at us all laughing so hard he can't breathe. If you remember, we actually played that clip on the show and I said, I was kind of like, I'm not sure I love that. Anyway, this right here was Chappelle taking that same joke, inserting the name Charlie Kirk for George Floyd and then telling it. Now, the very fact that Chappelle puts Charlie Kirk, a political activist, not arrested or accused of any crime, in the same category with George Floyd, an arrested criminal who experienced excited delirium in a cop car and then died under disputed circumstances, it's pretty telling. But again, Chappelle's George Floyd, Tony Hinchcliffe comparison joke is a troll. It's a troll. It's designed to elicit a response from the right so he can say you don't like free speech. But it's the other one that's not really a joke. Chappelle is obviously perfectly fine seeing conservatives be shot to death. Now, quick side note to conservatives here, because this is something we've been dealing with in the conservative movement for decades at the point. Just because a famous person might agree with you on one core issue, say trans radicalism, the way Dave Chappelle does, that doesn't mean that they are decent people or thought leaders for your side or ought to be treated with broad respect. Now, again, back to Chappelle and the far left. The far left is perfectly happy with violence. They are perfectly happy with violence against the right. Jennifer Welch and Angie Sullivan, and these are podcast hosts with the I've Had It podcast. Apparently, there's some people who listen to this tripe. Well, here they were cracking up at a comment about, Charlie Kirk's death.
Speaker 7Dad Morrow says, we're digging up Charlie Kirk and doing it again.
Speaker 8I'm zooming into the Fox.
Speaker 9No comment. No comment. No comment on that.
Speaker 6Well, pretty evil people right there. Well, the podcast posted an apology. There are a bunch of sponsors who dropped that included Cash App, Jones Road Beauty, Ethos, Better Help, Bowling Branch, Chewy's, Any Optical, Lola Blankets, and a bunch of others. But all of her fans, right, all of her fans showed up to defend her. So they told, they gave an apology. On Thursday's joke, we laughed at a joke about Charlie Kirk. It was an insensitive joke, and we should not have laughed. We regret it, and we apologize. Whatever our political differences, there's nothing funny about gun violence. We've long supported common sense gun safety reform. Oh, that was the issue there. It was the gun violence. You don't want to be shown as supportive of gun violence. Not the fact that you laughed at the murder of a political opponent, the fact that it might seem like you're okay with gun violence. And so they made a donation to Everytown for Gun Safety, the largest gun violence prevention organization in America. We'll keep using our platforms to fight for the safety of all Americans. Again, the sin, according to the podcast, was not that they were laughing at Charlie Kirk's murder. It was that they might have legitimately killed Charlie Kirk. Guns. All their commenters, of course, were totally on side. One commenter said, you don't need to apologize. Charlie wouldn't have. Another one said, why are you showing empathy? Charlie hated that. Honor him with your disrespect. Someone said, I don't think he heard it. You're good. Again, these things have thousands or tens of thousands of likes on X, which is a trash machine. Now, again, it is not as though this is foreign to Jennifer Welch and Angie Sullivan. Remember, these are the same people who brag how much they hate Trump and everyone who voted for Trump.
Speaker 7I have so much more hate to give towards him. I've barely even tapped into it. I would say out of my potential of hating him 100 percent, I'm only 10 to 15 percent there. I still have 85 more percent to realize in these next two terms. Like, I feel invigorated. Yeah, I feel like, my God, I can go. I'm going to go. Here's 5 percent more hate here. Here's three more percent there. And I feel like I'm going to be full blown nonstop haterade, haterade for the country because there's going to be no kumbaya. No, no. I will hate this mother for forever and ever and ever and everybody that voted for him.
Speaker 6And everybody voted for him, not just Trump, everybody who voted for him. Again, that is the underlying glue that is holding together a lot of the left wing coalition. But hey, it's just the radicals. You know, just like when Hassan Piker was campaigning with half the Democratic Party, he was just some podcaster from California. And then, of course, they were campaigning with him. But but you shouldn't notice that not the fabled Democratic moderates. They're not like this. You know, like Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania. He wants to run for president. The governor, he put out a tweet over the weekend, quote, We're going to more than double Pennsylvania's minimum wage, codify abortion rights into our state constitution, fund mass transit, build more housing. These are the common sense things Pennsylvanians want on. But the Democratic trifecta will deliver on all of them. Wow. I mean, it's moderation or say the new Kansas Democratic Adam Hamilton. I mean, it was a white belt last week saying that, you know, Medicare for all might not be the right thing. You know, these are the Democrats you can count on, probably.
Speaker 10I know health care is a top priority of yours. Would you support those measures that he's pushing for? You know, I don't think Medicare for all is the is the right approach. And even though it sounds great, I don't think it's going to pass. And I think you end up you're talking about an entire health insurance industry with millions and millions of employees that is going to be affected by Medicare for all. I think what we need to do is figure out how do we how do we ensure that everyone has access to affordable health care, no matter who they are. But I think even using the term Medicare for all alienates a whole group of people that we need to be able to pass some kind of health care reform that allows everyone to have affordable health care. So I would rather not use the term Medicare for all.
Speaker 6They're moderates, you see, they're going to be so many new Democratic moderates who are entering the caucus. After all, the Democratic caucus is with amazing people like Howdy Doody Pastor james talarico in fact he's the biggest celeb because he is the new senator from texas and so he opened snl and again here he was being bipartisan and kindly and generous and clean cut
Speaker 11i'm james talarico the guy who's been the guy the guy who's been texting you every day asking for five dollars in this economy who can blame you but i think mr president if we can work together we can make life better for everyday americans it's clear people want something new they want something different i'm talking of course about snl's cold opens how many of these front freezers are they gonna do infinity okay so
Speaker 6again there he is just being kind and generous except well you know who he was with to close out snl he was with dave chapelle you know like i'm glad charlie kirk was shot dave chapelle chris rock was there as well of course chris rock is a person who said you weren't allowed to tell jokes about barack obama because he was like your father and of course druski who is most famous over the course of the past year for doing a an erica kirk skit mocking the widow of dead charlie kirk remember this famous druski
Speaker 5skit get on your feet and uh here is james talarico alongside chapelle andruski
Speaker 6don't worry they're all moderate they're all wonderful they don't have anything in common with the crazies not at all
Speaker 5oh my god all the democratic activists all together all at once
Speaker 6isn't that nice so i guess what i'm saying here is the moderation is an act moderation is an act erica kirk put out a tweet saying quote to see leftist podcasters comedians and commentators laugh about political assassination as though it's entertainment and the destruction of a human life is a punchline is beyond the disgusting my husband charlie kirk was killed in an act of political violence something our two children and i will live with every day for the rest of our lives a culture that laughs at assassination is one of profound moral decay it threatens the very foundation of our country and the principles that hold our democracy together you don't have to agree with someone's politics to recognize the value of their life this should not be so hard political violence must never be something this country this country tolerates excuses or celebrates but again we have noticed that people on all sides of the political aisle are willing to joke about this particularly about charlie kirk actually right it is very personage there are people on the right and the left who are willing to do this routine in other words the moderation is an act it's an act and many of the people you know are lying to you are now doing that act well it seems like some of these democrats are broken you know internally i'm not sure what can fix them but here's the thing there are things in your house that break all the time it happens to us all the time it's just something goes wrong the water heater goes or a pipe bursts or the electrical system is taking the day off the ac goes down well your regular homeowner's insurance generally doesn't cover any of that everyday wear and tear kind of stuff and this is a very this is where home serve comes in home serve offers home repair protection plans starting as low as $4.99 a month covering eligible repairs to specific systems like plumbing heating cooling electrical you choose the plan that fits your home and budget when something covered goes wrong you can call their 24-7 hotline and start that repair process they've been helping homeowners for over 20 years with a network of 2600 local contractors if you've ever had to find a plumber in the middle of an emergency you can appreciate why having that process already figured out would be kind of useful join the millions of customers who trust home serve for 50% less your first year go to homeserve.com slash shapiro that's homeserve.com slash shapiro for 50% less savings compared to renewal price boyd in california and florida again go check them out right now the fact is that there are a lot of people stuff breaks in my house all the time home serve is indispensable go check them out right now and for 50% less your first year you can head on over to homeserve.com slash shapiro and make sure that you're covered for all those little things that go wrong the most annoying things in your life go check out homeserve.com slash shapiro right now that's homeserve.com slash shapiro so zora mamdani who's a full-scale member of the democratic socialist of america is now appearing on fox news with his new it's a me mario mustache to explain that actually he disagrees with all of the elements of the dsa policy proposals all of them pretty much i believe him i don't believe him because i am not a stupid person i'm proud to be doing
Speaker 12so as a mayor who's a member of the democratic socialists of america okay get rid of borders no get rid of scotus no no so do
Speaker 6you
Speaker 12think dsa is going to kick you out no you can tell by the way
Speaker 6that he is lying whenever he is smiling that is the way that it works that is his tell he's a terrible poker player again you're a fool if you fall for this sort of stuff i mean remember abdul el sayyed abdul rahman el sayyed the new senator from michigan remember he spent the entire campaign saying that if you mention his associations with radical islam it's because you're an islamophobe and actually all he wanted to do is talk about affordability right you just want to talk about affordability there's nothing to worry about there at all if you focus at all on his radical islamic beliefs on his solidarity with terrorists if you did that that was because you were some sort of bigot well now we won and so now you can just come out and joke about all of it and basically just he's out and proud about it again is scratch the supposedly moderate democrats or the affordability democrats and you find the radicals underneath here's abdul rahman el sayyed sitting with his bros at the pod save america podcast including sellout john lovett and we're just going to get to the bottom of a couple things
Speaker 13do you disavow yeah i'm not who do we i wasn't even gonna do the joke look i have a brother he's muslim and he and i have a muslim brotherhood all right he's just because we're both muslims
Speaker 6oh oh and i'm honored to be the next united states senator from
Speaker 13the great state of michigan which of course i know we're here in dc which of course is the capital of the united states of america but uh michigan is the capital of arab america and uh and so now you can say all
Speaker 6of it all the things that you weren't supposed to say and if you mentioned them you were islamophobic now he can just say them out loud almost as though he was lying i know it's a shock to all of us this is why when you hear democrats say they're gonna be moderate they're gonna be responsible wrong you are get ready folks when the pendulum swings it really really really swings the washington post of course running cover for abdulrahman they say that islamophobia backfired in michigan the islamophobic rhetoric deployed not only in ads but spoken on the trail by president trump vice president van senator cruz health secretary robert f kennedy jr and mike rogers backfired in a state with one of the country's largest arab and muslim populations well actually we should point out at this point that um the michigan senate race between el sayed and rogers was significantly closer like a lot closer than it was supposed to be the final results in that race is that he ended up winning by about seven okay but the polls were showing that he was supposed to win upwards of double digits so that ended up being a lot closer than it should have mainly because it turns out a lot of americans are not so into this okay so they're they're playing a risky game but again el sayed doesn't care he doesn't care his whole point was he was going to run as openly radical as possible to his base while lying to everybody else he has now launched the habibi pack habibi in arabic means my beloved right use it to talk about your kids very often okay so he has launched habibi pack it's the latest sign el sayed aims to influence democratic politics into the future uh isn't that nice so remember don't talk about his islamic background only he can talk about his islamic background also remember that time that he was saying that he didn't want to use that aid to israel was really making your bananas expensive that's really the problem it was aid to israel that was everything well here he was over the weekend explaining that he believes in usa id usa id's total spending has hovered between roughly 20 billion dollars and 42 billion dollars between 2016 and 2025 he is fine with that aid usa id totally fine the aid to israel is what made things expensive according to abdul rahman el sayed so i don't think it's the money i think that i think i sense an ulterior motive here senator i believe in usa id
Speaker 13and i believe in usa id because if you can stop disease from spreading and get people food it ends up solving problems for you too right right and but i do think we need to differentiate it from some of the more intel gathering pieces you know i think sometimes the way that we've thought about our agencies in the past have been more oriented to short-term goals than long-term trust and i hope that as we build into the future of the way that we want to do diplomacy in the long term when we say we're giving you food we're not also just doing intel we're just giving you food and healing illness and that's good for us not just because it's about collecting intel it's good for us because it turns out that when people can get food in their own country they don't have to rush to our our borders turns out that when you stop disease from spreading in a different country it doesn't spread to your country these are net goods for us because solving problems where they are right keeps them from coming to us
Speaker 6us. But wait, don't, doesn't that make bananas more expensive? Why aren't we spending money here at home for Medicare for all? Oh, I noticed you're totally fine with USAID because it spreads to left-wing social organizations abroad, including places like Hamas. It turns out, according to the New York Post, that USAID gave a million dollars to a Hamas-linked charity in the Gaza Strip. In 2024, according to the DOJ, a Syrian national was charged with diverting some $9 million in USAID to a terrorist organization associated with Al-Qaeda. And in 2024, Stripes reported at least $293 million in USAID was unaccounted for in Afghanistan. But he doesn't care about all that because we know why this is happening. We know why all of this is happening. We know what his real agenda is, obviously. By the way, just understand, the real left is very open about what they are doing. The real left is incredibly open about what they are doing. So, for example, brand new congressional left, Chris Rabb from Pennsylvania, here he was explaining that the people closest to the pain should be closest to the power. It's a full overturning of the American hierarchy.
Speaker 14We do this in movement. We do this in community. And we do it unapologetically. Because we are leading when we have such feckless people in power. This is the time in these dark hours. Where we become the light. And we represent those people closest to the pain who should be closest to the power. I am so honored to join all of you in aggressive fabulosity to do the people's work.
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Speaker 15Because this Supreme Court, um, has intervened, to stop the counting of ballots in Bush versus Gore in 2000. It has demolished the Voting Rights Act, the greatest statute of our history, which actually made it possible for millions and millions of people to participate effectively in the process. And it is sided with Trump in almost every way in terms of trying to turn the clock back. So the Supreme Court, alas, has become in many ways an obstacle to democracy. We need to get democracy moving again. Again, this
Speaker 6is where Democrats are. They're as radical as radical can be. And it's all a mask, right? The affordability thing was all a mask. It always was. You really think things are gonna get more affordable with Elizabeth Warren in charge of the banking committee? Really? I mean, here is Senator Elizabeth Warren saying over the weekend that she wants to work with Trump to cap credit card interest rates. By the way, you know what happens if you cap those credit card interest rates? People just don't get credit cards. That's all that happens. The reason that the credit card interest rates are very, very high is to incentivize you to pay your credit card on time. If you cap the interest rates, if you have bad credit, you just won't get a card. It'll be that simple. You'll end up going to a payday lender. But Senator Elizabeth Warren is a demagogue. So if you think if you think all of this is geared toward making the economy stronger and more affordable, it's because you're you don't understand your basic econ.
Speaker 8What specific policies do you think you can work with him on? Look, President Trump himself said that he wants to reduce interest rates on credit cards to 10%. I got the bill. I'm ready to go. President Trump says he wants to do more on housing. We're ready. We have the bills ready to go. And besides that, we've got a whole bunch more that the American people have told us that they want on price gouging, on protecting our rural hospitals, on making sure that people have access to health care. We have a lot of work lined out that we can do. OK, so again, all the
Speaker 6stuff that you're talking about is a lot of work. And I think that's what she's talking about is very, very unlikely to make things more affordable. And that is not what she cares about. This is the game. The game is we tell you it's about affordability and then we do everything possible to make things more unaffordable because the thing we really care about is not that the real thing we care about is economic leveling, the destruction of the free market system and foreign policy failure. This is why Abdulrahman Al-Sayed is out there saying that he wants Medicare for all. He'll call it Trump care and we'll work together. Sure, sure, buddy.
Speaker 13He is the president of the United States. I am the U.S. senator elect from the state of Michigan. I am happy to meet with him like I'll meet with anyone who can advance the goals I ran on to get money out of politics, put money in pockets, pass Medicare for all. I said this if he wants to pass Trump care for all, which will guarantee health care to everyone and put his name on it like he's putting his name on everything. I'm game. Let's let's see if he wants to do that. So I haven't had any outreach. I'm happy to sit down with him to talk about how we can serve the Michiganders who just elected me.
Speaker 6Again, this is the game. This is the game. Al-Sayed, and the rest of the Democratic Party, they say things like we shouldn't spend money abroad. We should spend it at home unless we're spending it on USAID, for example, to funnel money to places that despise the United States. Abdulrahman Al-Sayed in 2011, go all the way back, accused Barack Obama of perpetrating the extrajudicial assassination of an American citizen. That would have been Anwar al-Awlaki, who is an actual terrorist. But he says guns are butter. Again, this is always the game for Democrats. They pretend that they want to make America weak abroad, that the goal of making America weak abroad is to spend the money at home. That is not right. That is not right. The affordability talk is covered for the thing they actually want to do. They are not motivated by economics to make us weak abroad. They're motivated to make us weak abroad, and they use economics as the excuse for all of this. This is the goal, right? Ben Rhodes was doing the same routine over the literally worked for the Obama administration in a senior foreign policy position whose nickname was Hamas. I don't I'm not kidding. The other Democrats called him Hamas because he was so pro Hamas. And here is Hamas talking.
Speaker 16We cannot let J.D. Vance claim the anti-war mantle, right? Like this has to be the Democratic Party. We let Trump do that. Yeah. The Democratic Party is the anti. We let Trump do it. We let Trump do it three times. The Democratic Party has to be the party that is not going to get us into other wars. The Democratic Party has to be the party that's going to dismantle the apparatus of the war on terror. The Democratic Party has to be the party that's going to stop spending a trillion dollars on defense and stop bombing other people's children and start investing in our children.
Speaker 6Again, the goal there is not about investing in our kids. He doesn't care about that. You know how you know this? Because you can look at what the DSA is doing. So the DSA, right, they're supposedly about socialism right here in America, right? That's what they want. They want economic leveling, except for the fact that if you go and take a look at the national DSA meeting after Election Day, according to the New York Post, they do not care at all about the actual cost of living. Instead, they're trumpeting their radical plans to break the U.S.-Israel relationship and disrupt ICE. Instead of focusing on affordability issues that help propel Democrats into office, the DSA on its Thursday call jumped straight into ideological and geopolitical debates like Israel-Palestine declaring it was planning a human arms embargo, despite President Trump this morning saying the United States will end $4 billion in annual aid to Israel. Houston's mayor has now announced an end, Democrat, to ICE cooperation. Again, all of the moderation and even the economic talk is a cover for the thing they really want to do, which is make America weaker because they think America is bad. Here's Houston's mayor.
Speaker 17And this is where Democrats are going. And by the way, this will come along with prosecutions.
Speaker 6Their priorities are not affordability. They don't care about affordability. And this is why I say the most important thing to take away from the 2026 midterm elections is not that the American people full-scale endorsed Democratic plans. They did not. They were just pissed at Trump. That's all. We'll get to the other side of the aisle in just one second here. But that's important to say because what Democrats are about to implement when they get power is going to be truly, truly terrible. Representative Garcia, he's out there as the chair of the House Oversight Committee incoming, pledging prosecutions.
Speaker 18Just because you're Kimberly Goldfoyle or you're Kristi Noem or you're Pam Bondi and you're no longer in office that doesn't mean that we're still not interested in accountability for all of your crimes and grift we're not gonna I we're not gonna forget like you know like we we can't forget about these folks that are causing harm like you know I think it's like I mean maybe it's maybe it's because I'm I'm like I'm gay but like you know like like pettiness is a thing like I I'm I am I'm mad you know like so get ready get
Speaker 6ready for a petty gay man a self-described petty gay man to start prosecuting people right and the radicals scratch the moderates and you're finding the radicals underneath and it's not you don't have to scratch particularly deep it's more on this in just a moment first it's pretty easy to announce the American dream is dead it's considerably harder to explain what's actually happening and why it's happening and what would actually make it better that requires more than a slogan it requires actual facts that's why I went head to head with left of center Scott Galloway in the first ever USA facts debate focused on the American dream we debated whether capitalism is working or leaving too many people behind whether more government is the answer or whether government is part of the problem and here's what made this debate different each segment started with government data and facts from USA facts before we argued about the solutions we had actual numbers to work from now having the same facts doesn't mean Scott and I suddenly agree obviously but it does mean you can see where the disagreement actually is evaluate those arguments decide for yourself who makes the stronger case you should come away from a debate knowing more than you did going in that's the whole point watch the full debate now on the USA facts YouTube channel and meanwhile the right remains in total flux right now if President Trump 60 minutes interview is any guide well you know that flux isn't going to settle for a while so a lot of headlines coming out of that 60 minutes interview between the President Ross Duthat probably the top headline was the President's comments on the United States and the United States and his comments on immigration where he correctly noted that while the American people approve him on immigration more than any other issue the implementation of ice deportations and raids in places like Minneapolis probably did not help him with Hispanic voters which again is true
Speaker 19one thing you would like to work with a Democratic majority I'd love
Speaker 20to do something on immigration what because well so do you think immigration
Speaker 19hurt you in the midterms I think the crackdown I think
Speaker 20both helped and hurt I think I got an A-plus for closing up the border I get very high marks for getting the bad ones out but I get hurt because we also took people that had good jobs that that created one violation or breaking of the law that was that they came into the country illegally now there is a large part of the country that think that they should be put out and there's a large part of the country that think that they should be allowed to stay if they're good people working in a landscaping company or working in a hotel or doing something right and in some cases paying taxes and there's a large group of people think that they should be allowed to stay so you
Speaker 19think your deportation policy went too far it was too tough I
Speaker 20think it might be too tough
Speaker 19yeah what
Speaker 6okay so he is speaking to a political reality here but is there going to be an amnesty there's not going to be an amnesty let's not be silly here the president was elected twice on the basis of taking a very strong position on illegal immigration and of course Susie Wiles who was the chief of staff left over the weekend was replaced by Stephen Miller um Stephen Miller is the most hawkish person in the entire administration on immigration the president put out a statement I'm pleased to announce that Mr Stephen Miller the current deputy chief of staff of the Trump administration and one of my most trusted advisors will become the chief of staff starting Monday November 9th Susie Wiles who has done an outstanding job will be moving over to the Trump political operation I want to thank her for her service as chief of staff she's done a great job President Trump according to Fox Catlin Carell is reporting that a person familiar with the administration's thinking told her quote Stephen means Trump's leaving the denial stage and moving it into the effort stage and you know just remember Stephen if you think Stephen Miller is overseeing a a compromised policy of quasi-amnesty uh no that is not no that is not going to happen there's a flashback to October
Speaker 21can you morally align yourself with the political party that thinks that the rights of illegal alien rapists are more important than American children if you want the West to end if you want the American experiment to end if you want to have a society crumble and collapse because it's led by people who hate it that's all the Democrats can offer
Speaker 6okay so um yeah that guy you think is going to be the compromise guy like he as chief of staff he's gonna leave President Trump into amnesty okay here he was back in March of 2025 again Stephen Miller is the hardest charging member of the administration
Speaker 21bar none how are you going to expel illegal alien invaders from our country who are raping little girls who are murdering little girls if each and every deportation has to be a Jude kid in a district court judge and that means you have no country it means you have no sovereignty it means you have no future it is fundamentally incompatible to have a country and have individual expulsions adjudicated by a single District Court
Speaker 6okay meanwhile Hakeem Jeffries is literally calling Stephen Miller a malignant tumor to be eradicated quote Stephen Miller is a dangerous xenophobe and reckless extremist who has American blood on his hands his presence in government should be eradicated like a malignant tumor fire him today well um I don't think that that is going to be um I don't think that that is going to be a compromise worthy position probably you know here's Representative Robert Garcia calling him an evil white Nationalist which is strange because Stephen is Jewish but okay
Speaker 18I have a list who's on yours the top of the list is Stephen Miller this man this guy is this guy is a this guy is a comic book villain I mean the man besides obviously being a white Nationalist the man it has is is evil what the way he has put together this his deportation scheme the kidnappings the murder of U.S citizens taking kids and separating them from their families this was all done and he's created a system where for every person that's taken off the street and put in detention his buddies are actually profiting okay so
Speaker 6I don't think that there's going to be a compromise on on this particular matter but of course that was not the only headline made by the president over the weekend in his 60 Minutes debut with Ross do that the president was asked about the fact that a lot of people in the administration including the president have seen their net worth go up tremendously during this administration which is a major issue for Republicans I know there's been a lot of talk about a lot of issues surrounding the election everything from tariffs to the Iran war the number one issue in every poll was corruption it was it was and that will continue to bite the Republicans directly in the ass so long as there are people all surrounding the president who are clearing the bag here's Ross do that with the president
Speaker 19there's a Forbes story that said that your net worths maybe it's changed with the stock market recently but your net worth went up by three billion dollars well since you since you returned okay you're ready so everyone's my net worth did not go up by three billion dollars you should have had stock I I should have I should have had stock I should
Speaker 20have had stock excuse me so
Speaker 19how did I devote how did it go up by well let
Speaker 20me explain I devote almost no time to my net worth I don't care I make I have a lot of money and far more than I ever thought I'd have and I guess it's gone up I don't even know but well then okay just so wait wait let me explain it let me explain it to you I have a son who's a very straight good guy he watches over money I don't even talk to him about it he watches he gives they gave my money I have a lot of cash I've had a lot of cash long before I came in here I don't take a salary
Speaker 6okay so um again if Republicans don't at some point confront this it's going to be a problem I must say I thought that the most amusing and honest moments of this interview Kim and Ross do that started asking the president about forgiving his enemies and you know points for honesty here from the president
Speaker 19you said and I know this was a little bit of a joke but I think facts come through jokes you said quote I hate my opponents and I don't want the best for them let's say you pass away you're entering the next life and all you have to do to enter Paradise is feel love and forgiveness for James Comey Nancy Pelosi anyone who you have expressed hate for over the years do you think you can do
Speaker 20it well then I wouldn't be real would I I mean if I said to you sure the easy answer to that oh yes I could forgive no I
Speaker 19don't think it's an easy question
Speaker 20I found them to be extremely dishonest people very bad people very bad for our country I love our country far more than I can love people and people like that is the answer no the answer is no to be honest before the judgment before the judgment no I think there were very bad people and uh I dislike I can use the word hate I do hate some of my enemies I think they're they've been terrible look what they put me through the weaponization
Speaker 6okay um you know points for honesty one thing about the president when it comes to this sort of stuff he is not lying and well the other big headline that came out of the 60 Minutes interview was the president sounding off on the 2028 presidential race so obviously it's a wide open field right now the fact that the Republicans got drubbed means that there are a bunch of people who are going to throw their hats in the ring that presumably includes everybody from the vice president of the United States the presumptive front runner to governor Ron DeSantis in Florida, probably include Senator Ted Cruz. There'll be some others who undoubtedly jump in. Well, this took kind of the four of this particular 60 Minutes episode because the president was asked about a tweet sent by the vice president last week that got a lot of attention. The vice president's tweet blamed essentially the entirety of the 2026 loss on the Iran war, not on the sort of pricing fallout from the Iran war, but on the Iran war itself. He suggested that the end of the Iran war would essentially be the palliative that would fix all problems. The president was asked directly about this tweet. And here's what he had to say.
Speaker 19A couple of days ago, your vice president, J.D. Vance, wrote a social media post where he says the reason we lost is the war, meaning Iran. And he said things in that post about Israel. Yeah. So you agree with his analysis? I don't disagree with it. Did you know he was going to write that post?
Speaker 20He asked me, what do I think? I said, write what you feel. By the way, what are you going to write? The only thing I wish you would have said there, if he felt it. And you'd have to. Ask him about that. But if you had it to do again, would you do it? You know, he's part of a decision making process. And my answer is an emphatic yes, because you can't let Iran have a nuclear weapon. I think historically, this will be a very good decision. Is it a good decision for today and tomorrow? Maybe not. But, you know, I have to go with what's right for our country.
Speaker 6OK, so he's saying, you know, if the VP wants to sound off about the Iran war, that's fine. But he probably should have said something about the fact that we were eradicating their nuclear capacity, which, of course. I agree with that is a point that I agree with. As I've said before, I've been disagreeing with the actual conduct of the war since about April. As of March, I was calling for us to kind of commit our final strikes in Iran and finish things off and move on. Hey, but, you know, there were negotiations. There was a a poorly thought out ceasefire. I think an even more poorly thought out MOU. A lot of issues. Well, the president was standing alongside Secretary of State Marco Rubio at Mar-a-Lago when the secretary of state had some different things to say about this particular issue.
Speaker 22The most important thing a president can do for a country is to keep it safe. And there are people around the world that want to destroy it. They want to destroy our country. They want to destroy our way of life. He was elected to do the hard things, the hard things. It would have been very easy to do what multiple presidents before him have done, which is ignore the Iran thing, leave it for the next guy, put it aside and don't worry about it. That would have been the easiest thing to do. Honestly, to just basically say, leave it alone. Who cares? That's going to be someone's problem in the future. But this president didn't do that. He confronted it because what Iran wants to do is not just destroy our country, it's destroy our way of life and threaten our children. We cannot live in a world in which the most radical, terroristic regime on the planet possesses a weapon of mass destruction. And we've had president after president ignore it and allow it to linger.
Speaker 6Now, again, I obviously agree with the Secretary of State right here. Unclear whether the Secretary of State will run. I've said before that I think it's unlikely that Rubio will run. With that said, the president did tell Rostov that he might go hands off in the 2028 primaries, which is a rather interesting comment.
Speaker 19Does he have a name, by the way, as Secretary of State?
Speaker 20I think so. I mean, he certainly loves it and he's doing great. He's doing a fantastic job. The ones they think about, but there are many others. And I'd rather not mention their names. There's some senators that are excellent. I know them all. I like them a lot. So I may or may not get involved. I don't know. Maybe I'm better off not getting involved.
Speaker 6Interesting. Very, very interesting. There's an article in the Wall Street Journal that made a bunch of headlines on a related topic. It was called Elections Rubbing Complicates Vance's Calculation on Whether to Run in 2020. And let's be real about this. If you're the sitting vice president of the United States, and if you're leading in all the polling for the primaries, you're running. It'd be very, very difficult to imagine the vice president not running. And that tweet that he sent last week was essentially the launch of his campaign. I mean, it was him separating himself off from the Trump administration's policies that he believes are unpopular and that are in some cases unpopular. And him trying to sort of carve out his own lane. Okay, that is what that was. With that said, according to the Wall Street Journal, Tuesday's brutal midterm drubbing, the most far-reaching Republican wipeout since Watergate, is scrambling Vance's political future with the vice president and his allies privately grappling with hard questions about whether to mount a 2028 campaign for the White House. Some political allies have told the VP they no longer believe any Republican could win a presidential election in two years, before and after the election. Vance has told associates that he hasn't made up his mind about running, according to six people close to him. Two people close to Vance asked him in recent weeks if he would consider returning to Ohio to win his old Senate seat back. One of those people floated the idea of running for governor. Vance rejected both proposals. Now, what's sort of interesting about Vance's approach to the White House in 2028 and his approach to the campaign is his attempt to build a coalition. Again, I've said all of this in the past, but it's worth repeating. If you're attempting to build a coalition, that coalition is going to have to look different than whoever the last guy was. You can't inherit somebody else's coalition. If you're Hillary Clinton, you can't pick up Barack Obama's coalition and run. If you're J.D. Vance, you can't just pick up Trump's coalition and run. The question for Vice President Vance is sort of what is the coalition that he is looking for? As I said before, when I look at Trump's coalition, I see some areas where there would be relative decline. I think the vice president wins fewer Hispanic voters, for example. I think he doesn't do particularly well, probably, with sort of older voters. I think that Vice President Vance has some gaps when it comes to President Trump. Well, one of the critiques that I've made of the vice president before is that he is very, very online. He spends an awful lot of time on X. That tweet that he sent last week, he mentioned in that tweet, his sourcing, for why he thinks people did not vote for the Republicans. Now, again, we went through the exit polls and we showed last week what the exit polls say. The number one issue was corruption. The number two issue was cost of living. Iran war ranked three or four. And when it came to the issue of Israel, which is something that he brought up at the end of that tweet, the American public is basically split 50-50 on whether we support Israel the right amount or not enough, or we support Israel too much. Bottom line is it didn't rank on any of the surveys. Okay, but Vance's tweet, which called that out as like the number four reason, it was rooted apparently in the commentary of the smartest pollster and most honest pollster he knows. Well, it turns out, according to the Wall Street Journal, quote, Vance reached out personally to Mark Mitchell, then the head of polling at the firm Rasmussen Reports, to add questions related to a potential war with Iran to a survey Mitchell was already conducting. According to two people with direct knowledge of the episode, the VP's office provided direct input on the topics that should be surveyed and the kind of questions the poll should ask. Vance didn't pay for the poll. That's kind of interesting because, again, Mark Mitchell is, shall we say, very much aligned with the extreme far-right online sphere. So, for example, Mitchell has personally accused Israel of genocide, has called for Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to be arrested. So that was who J.D. Vance apparently was talking to when it came to assessing the reasons why Republicans lost. Now, again, agree with him, disagree with him. The question is whether that sort of very online approach is likely to win. Whether that is likely to win. Now, David Sachs, who's very much allied with the Vice President of the United States, and he sort of runs AI policy over at the White House. He pointed it on the All In podcast. And again, there's some of our friends who like those guys. David Sachs suggested that basically the podcast bros, who, again, agree with much of this very online analysis, meaning presumably like Joe Rogan or Theo Vaughn, that those people have to be catered to because the legacy media hates us. Here is David Sachs talking about this.
Speaker 23We lost all the podcast bros. I mean, obviously, it was Tucker Carlson and Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughn and that whole set. Megan Kelly. Megan Kelly. So, you know, a house divided against itself cannot stand. I mean, we lost a huge part of our base. And I would say that the Republicans in particular are dependent on the podcast circuit. Let's call it alternative media. Why? Because the mainstream media hates us. Legacy media hates us. They will never give us a fair shot.
Speaker 16And they're 90% left. So it is what it is.
Speaker 23Yeah. And I think one of the reasons why Trump produced such a resentment, such a rebounding victory in 2024 is he appealed to that whole podcasting circuit. And frankly, we should have done a better job giving them all front row seats in the White House press room.
Speaker 6Okay. So, again, what's bizarre about this particular approach is if you're going to let Joe Rogan, who voted for Bernie Sanders, and then endorse James Tallarico, like if he is going to define your coalition, I do not see exactly how that defines a winning coalition. Theo Vaughn. Is Theo Vaughn, really indicative of the kind of coalition you need to win? See, here's the thing when it comes to the podcast bros or podcasts in general. Like every other media outlet, a podcast is an outlet. If you're a politician, the media are a way for you to project the message that you want to the crowd that you want. But if you are defined by catering to that crowd, if you are defined by their priorities must be your priorities. Well, I mean, the Democrats just shellacked Republicans across the board. Why not just embrace all the Democratic policies? That's the easiest way to win. Presumably just mirror them. Totally. Or maybe we're just too online. I've been arguing this all the way through that. The Republican party is very, very online. The Democrats too are online. The Republicans were more online. Florida governor Ron DeSantis made this point recently. And again, Ron DeSantis has been very critical of the president's prosecution of the Iran war, for example, but he happens to be right about the media culture on the conservative side of
Speaker 24the aisle. So I think you need more bottom up. I think you need less focus. on the presidency, and I think you need more focus on not just people running for elected office, people that are involved in the conservative groups. I think we need a big change in kind of the conservative media culture because a lot of that is a grift and it's pay to play and it's just not offering very much in the way of strong ideas and things that are really going to illuminate your understanding. So there's all these different things that are not doing well on the right and I think we deserve a right, American right, that's fit to fight and is ready to go for what will be, just after Tuesday, is going to be a decade of battles just to get to a point where we're able to avert disaster and put us on a solid path that can be sustainable.
Speaker 6Again, this is going to be the question going forward. What does the Republican coalition look like? Who are the people who are being catered to? Not just on policy, but on sort of the gestalt of it. So here is the thing. When you come away, again, from the 2026 election, the thing to understand about voters is voters do not sit there and think about every single line item of policy. What they have is a generalized feel for who they like and who they don't, and mostly who they don't. If they don't like you, they're not going to vote for you. If they look at your overall performance and your attitude and corruption and all these things and you wrap it all into a ball, they will just vote the other way. That's what happened in 2026. Now, one of the things that does not help with that is if the chief advocates for, say, free markets and AI end up in scandals of their own. So over the weekend in what is truly an unbelievable story, Jensen Huang, who is the head of NVIDIA, which is the most valuable company on planet Earth, admitted to having a romantic relationship with a suspected Chinese spy in a message to his company, according to Axios. The company's board announced an independent investigation on Sunday. Quote, I owe my family and all of you an apology, Huang wrote in a draft to NVIDIA employees obtained by Axios. I was unfaithful to my wife. My actions hurt her and our children. There's no excuse for what I did. Huang said he took full responsibility for his actions, adding he had fallen short of his responsibilities to NVIDIA's employees, board and shareholders. Today's news will not slow NVIDIA. Jensen is committed to continuing to lead NVIDIA as CEO without interruption. According to the New York Times, actually, Secretary of State Rubio oversaw the drafting of a highly classified memo this past spring, warning top Trump administration officials that NVIDIA's chief executive, Jensen Huang, was in a close relationship with a Chinese spy. That document was based on classified intel from electronic surveillance of Alice Huang, a Chinese citizen, who was a senior executive at a Singapore-based company that was buying NVIDIA's advanced AI chips and being investigated for illegally smuggling them into China. U.S. officials had concluded that Huang was in a close relationship with the NVIDIA chief, who has no relation, and that she'd been recruited to spy by China's top intelligence agency, the Ministry of State Security. Not good. Very, very not good. As I've said before, the American economy and our economic growth right now is heavily reliant on AI, whether you're talking about the building of data centers or the distribution of AI, broad scale, or the use of AI. When you have industry leaders who are either warning about the impending apocalypse from their own technology or who are stripping Chinese spies, this is a bad thing. It is likely to blow back on precisely the capitalist tools that are necessary in order to grow the economy. So when I say that the future is roiling, the future is indeed roiling. And, again, that feeling of chaos is not great. The feeling of chaos that has set in all about us is quite bad. It is being exacerbated, of course, by the silliness. As I said before, Republicans have gotten very used to, over the course of the last decade, the sort of silliness. Oh, it's a silly tweet. Oh, who cares? It's silly. Whatever. It's chaotic. It's silly. But you can deal with your silly friend when you're in a good mood. When you're in a bad mood, your silly friend starts to really grate on you. Well, over the weekend, President Trump announced on Truth Social, quote, I am pleased to announce the great Dana White, a violent fighter and warrior, has been offered the job of press secretary of the United States. I have requested that you bring with him assistance, even though some are not from our country, of Islam Makhachev, Khabib, Nergomadev, Justin Geith, Daniel Cormier, Amanda Nunez, and Kayla Harris. We need people like these to defend us against the lunatic left. Dana will be a press secretary like none other. Dana, please take the job. And now, again, there's some sort of fake drama over the weekend. I'm not going to go into that. I'm going to go into that. Whether this is real or whether it was not. And then, of course, the president said that he was kidding. You know, nobody's kind of in the mood. Nobody's really kind of in the mood here.
Speaker 12What made you suggest Dana White? And are you serious about it? Are you kidding around? Well, if you look, you saw the assistance I put. I posted the greatest wrestlers and UFC fighters in the world, right? Like Khabib, like Justin, Justin Gaethje, who's phenomenal. And you see a lot of rough faces there. And you would have thought that people would have said he's having a good time. I will tell you, I was only kidding. But Dana loves the idea. And there's only one Dana. He's great. I don't know. He would be. You wouldn't mess around with him so much. And so, again,
Speaker 6the chaos, not great. Combine that all into something. And what you end up with is precisely what we saw. So is that likely to moderate in the coming months? Doubtful. Doubtful. All right. Coming up, we'll get to a couple of kind of insane criminal justice and culture stories, including the fact that Russell Brand will now be serving at least 10 years and six months behind bars. Apparently, that's his sentence in Great Britain. Plus, Macklemore has been denied a slot at Madison Square Garden, not because of his perspectives, but because he sucks. We'll get to all that in a second. First, you have to become a member. Now, guys, I'm telling you, like, listen, last week was dispiriting. I get it. A lot of us are very dispirited. But the fight goes on. In fact, it is more urgent now than ever because the left is now on the ascendant. They are on the rise, which means that we have to get behind a conservative perspective. We need to fight. And that begins today. So go become a member. Use code Shapira. Check out for two months free on all annual plans. Click that link in the description and join us. Father, I used to feel Christ.
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