Ep. 2486 - Joe Rogan Is Falling for the Charlie Kirk Conspiracy

So yesterday Joe Rogan announced that he is beginning to believe Candace Owens' bizarre theories about Charlie Kirk's assassination, namely that it wasn't Tyler Robinson. It must be a government cover-up. It could have been anybody, from TPSA to Erica Kirk, to the Israeli government, to Frances Assins, to me personally. So today I'm going to talk about why that's actually pretty important, not just the morality of believing evil conspiracism from a manipulative loon like Candace, obviously that's immoral. I'm not just going to talk about the untruth of Candace's bizarre theories because those theories are an IQ test. And if you believe them, you fail the IQ test. I'm going to talk about the responsibility of our political leadership when it comes to conspiracism. I'm going to talk about who ought to be the people leading the country, people who follow the people or people who speak the truth. That is perhaps the biggest issue in today's politics, with ramifications far beyond whatever benighted crap Candace or Joe Rogan or Theo Vaughn dump on their podcast today. We'll also get to an insane surrogacy scandal that lays bear the myriad conflicts of modern reproductive morality. Plus Democrats suddenly opposing cancel culture now that people notice that Hassan Pikey is a total piece of drag. This is the Ben Shapiro show. So as I say, yesterday Joe Rogan dropped the bombshell that he is starting to believe Candace Owens's theories about Charlie Kirk's assassination. So he had to say. One leg of furry. No, he loved a furry. Oh, he loved a furry. Yeah, but I'm not even sure of that's true. I'm the more the more time goes on the more I'm leaning towards Candace Owens. Whatever the spin is about Tyler Robinson, there's some bullshit to it. I don't know how much of how much of his bullshit, but there's some bullshit. Okay, listen, I know I like Joe personally. He's a nice guy. Also, this kind of stupidity ought to immediately make a question Joe's capacity to discern truth from fiction because to come on, come on. This is the equivalent of essentially endorsing the theory that staring at hieroglyphics can solve your health problems, which Joe also kind of did recently. So hieroglyphs actually carry the information in the form. And so the form of those shapes. Now we've, you know, some of the greatest minds on the earth are starting to recognize that if you draw one of those shapes and show it to a human mind, it creates an incredible medical response. You can reverse inflammation, all kinds of things by looking at the shape because the shape is creating a way to look at the shape of certain hieroglyphs. Yeah, the shapes that are in the Egyptian hieroglyphs are now being used to really change human biology. We're realizing it was, it was not a symbolic representation, something it was a full transmission of information. Is there papers written on this? So e-brain is one of the greatest minds out there. He's out of Egypt, Cairo, Egypt, and he's in his 80s now. And I'm going to connect you with him because you'd love to have him on the show. But he has been hired by large, you know, groups and now Switzerland has hired him now to recode their 5G network with these shapes to improve biology and life around the 5G network. Now I'm not super shocked by this kind of stuff. Joe Rogan, Joe tends to believe pretty much every conspiracy theory that he can find because let's be real, conspiracism is fun. Like it's super fun, it's chatty. You can fill five hours talking with your comedian friends about how the moon landing was fake and underwater demons who might be aliens control our lives. I get the stick, right? Joe Stick is that he is basically caveman discovering the world by talking with all the people. This never results in any firmly held belief. So he'll endorse James Talleriko, the psychotic left wing, howdy duty of Texas, and Donald Trump within two years of each other. But listen, it's fun to watch the journey. It's just sitting with your friends in college and popping up in a beer or in Joe's case, smoking a blunt and waxing philosophic on whether your chair really exists, man, or whether when you see the color red and I see the color red, is it the same color red, bro? Or which Kardashian sister is the hottest? It's like bullshit, the bros. That's what the show is. And under normal circumstances, that's fine and fun. Whatever it's free country can listen to what you want. There are two things that make this kind of stuff a problem for America more generally. One, when people start treating this stuff seriously and two, when politicians start treating this stuff seriously, because people start treating this stuff seriously. So listen, part and parcel of Joe's comedic world is black filling. This is, by the way, it's very comedy comedy because comedy is about making fun of the world as it is. It's not about offering solutions. It's not about trying to come to a consensus. Comedy is about making fun of the world as it is. Comedy is inherently sort of blackpilled. You can't trust any of the systems, my bro. Those systems are out to get you, dude. Bro, have you seen how corrupt this is? And we're wild. Now, there are basically three perspectives on the system or any systems like banking or the judiciary or the electoral system or the legacy media or the universities or our economy or whatever. Perspective one, every system is thoroughly corrupt. You can trust none of the systems. They are all corrupt. All of them. Trust nothing. Perspective two, all the systems are great. They're all pristine. We should trust everything that they turn out. And then there's perspective three. Some of the systems work basically, okay, other systems suck. The ones that don't work properly can sometimes be course corrected. And sometimes those systems need to be torn down to the studs. Now, as you might guess from my characterization here, I think that perspectives one and two are ridiculous. I also think that pretty much nobody actually believes them. I think they play well in podcast land because conspiracism is fun and profitable. So this is how you end up with a lot of podcasters who promote mutually exclusive propositions. Like for example, the government is directed toward corruption, which is largely true. And also that the government should run every aspect of our healthcare system. And it'll be great and not corrupt, which again, is not meshing with that first proposition. But also the government doesn't have the power to regulate the internet. So we're all doomed to failure, which is like sort of kind of half true. All of which Joe said yesterday with all of his friends on the show literally yesterday. So for example, Joe Rogan said that Donald Trump has made billions in crypto. This is true. I'm highly critical of this. I think it's corrupt. I think it's a huge problem. I've been calling it out since literally the first week of the administration. So what Joe says here is true. This government has done some that no government has ever done before. And one of them is the crypto stuff. The crypto stuff's nuts. Trump has made billions in crypto. Yeah, the best. And then you got his sons and his sons are involved in all these weird business deals where the business deals have to do with some things that Trump put and then the sons are involved in these businesses. And like there's a lot of money flowing around that you could dig in and start arresting people. Okay, so I totally agree actually with a lot of what he's saying there because it turns out that a government that is gigantic and prone to corruption does bad things. But then on the same show, he'll turn around with Shane Gillis. And they'll talk about how free healthcare isn't communism. In fact, you know what? What communism isn't when we treat the whole country like a community. Which I mean, there is a reason that communism and community have the same linguistic road, not because community is bad or something. But because the entire premise of communism is that as a member of a community, your individuality disappears and the community now gets to dictate what to do with your good product services and life. Here they are explaining things that again, our self-contractory. But here we go. Communism is the gayest ever. Of course. He needs to look into how gay communism is. But isn't it crazy that it's making a comeback? Yeah, it always does. It's a cycle. There's a cycle. There's a cycle. Is if we cannot call communism if we get free healthcare. Right. That would be a good move. That would help a lot. We're calling everybody communist. The most socialist communist in the whole. Free healthcare is cool. Yeah. We should have that. It's normal. That's not communism. Communism is very bio-cart. Yeah. You should treat the entire country like it's community. If you have a community, would you want the sickest person to die who could be very valuable if you could like take care of them and do you have the resources to take care of them? Of course you should. We're a country. Communism is terrible and gay. Also, we should treat our entire body politic like a community. Maybe that should be dictated by the thesis from each ability, according to his ability to each according to his need. Okay. Now again, I'm not really going to blame Joe for any of this sort of stuff. One of the things that makes Joe such a successful podcaster is that he is kind of sort of a tribute for the people, meaning that he contains multitudes, including a variety of totally conflicting viewpoints. I don't think Joe himself would say that he has some sort of thorough going theory of politics or thorough going world view. Again, his politics are a journey and they move all over the place. And the general check of the show again is sort of caveman explores world by talking to humans. Okay, fine. There's only a couple of problems that come up with this. One is there are a bunch of young men who use Joe Rogan as a sort of political litmus test, which is pretty weird. Or as Joe might say wild, right? Joe himself would probably argue that you shouldn't follow him that way because Joe himself would say that he's not fully formed on much of this stuff at all. But people do that anyway. Again, that's not Joe's fault. It's just a reality. You know, it turns out that young men will follow pretty much anybody. I mean, hell, a bunch of young men are using the alleged sex trafficking tape brothers as a moral litmus test. Are you coming up? We'll get to another group of manned, fear of people who are just widely worshiped. I mean, they're scam artists, but here is the thing. You don't like scams, you want the thing that matters. I'll tell you the thing that has mattered for literally all of human history. And that thing is gold. So here's an idea. For the next time, you have to buy a graduation gift, a bar, a monthly gift, a birthday gift for a user and nothing, whatever it is. Don't be the dad or uncle who puts cash in non-villope upgrade that gift game. Give them a gold or silver coin. It's memorable. It's something they can actually keep. More importantly, it gives you an excuse to teach them something about sound money. Again, if you give a kid today, like 20 bucks, like in cash, first of all, he can probably spend it. But second of all, within about three years, that 20 bucks is going to be worth, I don't know, not all that much money. 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Okay, well, it turns out by the way that Andrew and Tristan Tate had a giant cache of passports under aliases, including with a bond villainant name, according to the near post. Tristan Tate had a Mexican passport with his photograph and date of birth, but under Vladimir Scorpius. That is the name of the main villain in the 007 spy novel Scorpius, according to court documents. Tristan also posted an online video of himself on a ship declaring I'm Vladimir Scorpius and a registered registered a UK company called Scorpius Limited. And while openly bragged on social media about having eight lives, eight licenses in passports and evading authorities in multiple countries, I do have to give you an update for all of the Tate followers who are trying to define their lives by following the genius of Andertate. I think it is time for our latest episode of deep thoughts with Andertate here. Because again, as long as we're just tracing the people who young men are following, just a couple of samples. Because again, the mark of being brutally violated in prison is that you have access to acts, quote, "Greef passes through life like weather. Confignment keeps the air still and forces you to remain in the room with a storm." It's a thinker. That's a thinker. But we have more. Life is kaleidoscopic. At first it looks random, with focus and see patterns. A dazzling infinity colorful chaos, but truthfully, it's always beautiful. Wow. Wow, these are words to live by. A couple more. Disappointment is finite. Hope is infinite. Ah, man, I'm, he's opening new vistas, new horizons to me that I'd never thought about before. And finally, God doesn't return what is lost. He answers lost by allowing you to find the loss in something new. Father to son, to son to son. Indeed. Indeed Andertate. Indeed, Vladimir Scorpius. Is there deep thoughts? Why am I talking about this? Because again, there are a lot of young men who are following these people. And let's be real about this. Following these people is stupid. If you're not going to get for fun, if you're using them as political guides, rather than gossipy buddies with whom to share DMT or something, but even that's not really the problem. The real problem, the problem that I have against not the people who listen to Joe show or listen to Tate or whatever. Okay, it's a free country. I may think that you're wasting your time on certain broadcasts, but you know, free country. The big problem is when our political leaders decide to follow this group, which takes us to the modern GOP. So top members of the GOP, most prominently the vice president, think the path to victory, political victory lies in winning over the Rogan Bros. And the vice president has made this pretty clear over and over and over. So the New York Times reported just a few weeks back, quote, "Bans made clear to colleagues. He feared losing some of the so-called low propensity voters, the young men who are not traditional Republicans, but who had voted for the Trump fans ticket in 2024. This was an audience tuned into the manosphere podcasters like Joe Rogan, and it was worrisome that the podcast hosts themselves were now rebelling." And of course, the vice president has recommended that everyone ought to listen to the benigned musings of Theavon, a double digit IQ comedian, whose discernment is on par with that of a brick. Here was the vice president of the United States, the TPUSA, few months back. I think if you want a good laugh, I love Theavon. He's one of my favorite. He's just incredible. And he's got one of these senses of humor where like 30% of the time it goes completely over my head, and 70% of the time he's the funniest person imaginable. But I think Theav has a good heart, and that's one of the reasons why I really like listening to a show. So, so much great stuff in Theavon. Things like, you know, his usual spate of conspiracy. Our entire society's been frontly, abodamized. It's amazing. Here's Theavon, you know, with Joe Rogan again, just wrapping on the conspiracy theories. People are like, we'll like the Democrats next time. It's like, but it's all the same has been happening forever. They haven't been helping anybody forever. They're letting politicians slurp on kids. All of our money goes to Israel and they're using it to genocide people. It's like everybody is scared out of their wits right now. It's like our religious leaders are afraid to speak out. And it's like the, it's a time where it's like Satan is amongst us and our religious leaders are talking about bullshit. The poll, it's just like, what is going? I don't know, man. We've got to get you up for that. The president's son. You're losing your marbles. Do you think I am coming out with us? Just chill. Let me hear. Again, the black telling this is what you need more of. You need more of the black telling more of the conspiracism. It's what you need. You need a guy who tells you that news for news stories are actually created by actors. That's, that's what you really need. Is the guy who literally acts for living? Right, but I think that this starts to happen. News stories get created, right? Yeah. Things get whether they're fictional, whatever it goes on. You don't even know a lot of times what's news stories. You can send actors out to create a scene. You see a video. You believe it. And then they make that's been done before. Right. And then oh, yeah, there was, but then you see movies and stuff come out later about it. So it's like you're almost creating your own news to then make like a based on a real story. You don't talk about. I can see why the vice president is recommending this genius level talk. It's it is, it is definitely, you know, I think edifying for the young male population of the United States to listen to people who maybe borderline retarded talking about politics. Now listen, I think that this particular strategy is flawed for four particular reasons for the vice president, all of which are expressed publicly. One, you have to build your own coalition. You can't just duplicate president Trump's. I know the vice president to the United States thinks that if he just keeps Trump's coalition, he wins in 2028. This is wrong. And it is also politically stupid. No politician can duplicate the coalition built by another politician that is not the way that this works. If you take Donald Trump's coalition and you map JD Vance onto that coalition, JD Vance loses participants in literally every area of that coalition. He wins fewer women, fewer Hispanics, fewer blacks, fewer blue collar voters, because it's not possible to outcompete president Trump with blue collar white voters. He does worse with the manosphere. He wins fewer of everyone pretty much. He has to create his own coalition. And if you just try to grab Trump's coalition, it's going to fade away on you. Hillary Clinton tried to do this with Barack Obama and it totally failed. You just can't do it. Okay. Second reason, the people, if you try to follow the people around, right? Let's say this is Vox Populay. Okay. You follow the people around. The people are fickle. Joe Rogan, for example, Trump has been in three elections. Joe Rogan voted for Donald Trump this many times. I'm holding up one finger, one time. He is now endorsing James Tallahrico for Senate in Texas. The notion that if you just go on Joe Rogan's show and you kind of mirror his conspiratorial musings and black pills super hard the way that JD Vance actually did on Joe Rogan's show that all the Joe Rogan's voters will end up with you. That's silly. That's silly. The people can change their mind. Joe Rogan is fickle. The Ovan is fickle. All these people are fickle because they don't have any consistent worldview. So if you just try to follow them around, there's a very good shot that will run away from you just on a pragmatic level. Third, successful leaders lead and the coalitions follow in their wake. Politicians who tend to pander, meaning they just kind of run around chasing the crowd. It tends not to work. This is where President Trump is actually quite unique. President Trump doesn't go on Joe Rogan and just sort of mirror what Joe Rogan's saying. President Trump says whatever President Trump wants to say and then whoever follows him kind of wants to follow him. That's how it works. Trump is the same dude everywhere. He doesn't change what he is saying because he's on Joe Rogan or Theo Vaughan or my show or anybody. All right, coming up. We'll get to the fourth reason why it is stupid to chase around Joe Rogan's audience as a politician. First, we have obviously reached a strange point in American life where basic competence is not even remotely a given call a company and actual human being answers the phone, customer service, a reasonable price. I think the bare minimum, but you don't even get that these days. Our standards for customer service have gotten ridiculous. You call some place up, you spend 25 minutes listening to elevator music. Finally, somebody gets on and they have no idea what in the hell you're talking about. Well, this is just one reason Pure Talk stands out in a recent industry survey. Pure Talk was the only wireless company to earn five stars across coverage, support value and data. 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Yeah, it's very funny. There are a bunch of people, purportedly on the right now, who say things like "Vox Poppil, Ivox Day." Right? Meaning the voice of the people is the voice of God. That is stupid and it is nonsense. And it actually comes from an eighth century letter to Charlemagne in which the author called that idea and crowds, following crowds around madness. It turns out the people are often an idiot. The people are often wrong. This is why we have a constitution. Why? Because you wouldn't need a constitution. If the people were awesome, all the time always right, you wouldn't need a constitution. The founders feared and despised the mob. They wanted a constitution because they knew certain rights had to be put off limits so that the people could not run roughshod over them. That's why checks and balances exist. That is why they are there. Now, over the course of the last century and a half, we and all of our great wisdom decided to basically dismantle many of those checks and balances in pursuit of a far more activist and centralized government that does things, but that's had some pretty bad side effects. Now, here's the thing. I believe that the truth always wins, eventually. Because reality always wins, eventually. But the key word there is, eventually. So listen, I get the logic as to why politicians pander and why they lie and why they always follow the people around with the butterfly net. Why they're always chasing the parade. This has always been true. There's nothing new about this. This is what demagoguery is. They have an entire political class following the dictum of a 19th century French politician named Alexandra Augusta Ledro-Rolline. He said, "There go the people. I must follow them for I am their leader." That's where we are. And here's the thing. If you try to follow the people, you probably won't catch up with them, especially if what you're doing as a Republican is just pitching a softer version of what Democrats are hard selling. But if you do win on that platform, you'll lose the country because running that car toward the cliff at 60 miles per hour is only marginally better than running that car at the cliff at 90 miles per hour, which brings us to the actual uniparty that has formed in this country. That's the uniparty that hates free markets, uniparty. That doesn't like private property. The uniparty thinks government is the solution and that does not give a damn about the fact that we are now 40 trillion dollars in debt. I'm the only host, there are a few others probably. I'm the only major host, so far as I'm aware, or one of the only ones who legitimately talks about the things that would stop that, like restructuring mandatory entitlement programs. No one will do it. Our debt is driven primarily by mandatory entitlement programs, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security that represents 50 to 60 percent of our national debt. And then there's the interest on all of that. Nobody in any party will ever touch that stuff. Why? Well, because they're following the people around, right? The people don't want to hear it because the people want all the benefits and none of the drawbacks, which means that our political class by following the people will help run us right over the fiscal cliff. And this is what is going on in the actual world. According to Reuters, the US Federal Budget deficit for July jumped to $432 billion dollars a record for the month. As higher outlays and more negative tariff revenues also brought the 2026 fiscal year-to-day budget gap to $1.8 trillion, topping the full fiscal 2025 deficit with two months left in the fiscal year. Last month's budget gap was the largest monthly deficits since March 2021. There have been only two other higher monthly deficits, $864 billion in June 2020, which was the middle of the pandemic, and $738 billion in April 2020, also in the middle of the pandemic. So you've got the GOP, and the basic idea of the GOP is what if we just say all the things the people want us to say. So if DSA is hot with the podcast pros, if quasi-communism is hot, what if we just say soft communism, right? That's the thing that we're going to do. We're going to follow the people. Now again, the GOP strategy on all this stuff has now turned into running us off the cliff at 60 miles per hour in order to forestall someone running us off the cliff at 90 miles per hour. So now key members of the GOP are basically selling a softer version of big government solutions that Democrats have been pumping for decades. The GOP's plan apparently is to win over the people by telling them that the American dream is precisely what I told you yesterday it is not a bunch of stuff you deserve. The American dream is the idea, as I expressed yesterday, that if you do things in a wise, good, prudent manner, if you make good, wise, virtuous decisions, you will do better than your parents. Your kids do the same, they will do better than you. And that dream is very much still alive despite all of the obstacles thrown up by statists right and left. It's a process. It's a process. It's not a list of products. The American dream isn't a house, it isn't a car, it isn't a college degree, it is the process by which you achieve those things through good, responsible decision making. And if you don't make those good and responsible decisions, you don't get those things. Because there is a correlation in the American dream between work and wisdom and virtue and innovation and drive and grit and success, right? That's the process. But now the GOP's plan is to say that the American dream is the same thing that Democrats say it is, a list of things you deserve. Not a process because the process has sold you out or blackpilled on the process, but stuff you deserve. So the vice president was selling that yesterday. And I guess I would say to that young person that you as an American citizen deserve to have a good life in this country and you deserve to have a government that is making it easier for you to start a family, for you to afford to get a good education, for you to have a good job, for you to afford a home. And what I would also say is that while these things sometimes take a little bit of time, we are already seeing the positive results come from the president's economic policies. We're seeing trillions of dollars of new investment into this country, which means good middle-class jobs for young people, middle-income people all across our country. Now again, it's the beginning of what he says, the sort of fascinating because what he says there is that what Republicans ought to say, what he would tell young people is you deserve as an American a good education, a good job, a good home, meaning you just get those things, right? It's a list of things that you get. Not the process. Now what I would say to Americans is you deserve the opportunity to achieve as ends those things if you actually participate in the process. Right? That's what we're doing. We're getting the government as an obstacle out of your way so you can succeed. That's the thing. We want it to be easier for you, making good, wise, virtuous, responsible decisions to afford a home. Right? But the way that we do that is by getting out of your way and by getting government out of your ways. You can actually do those things. Right? That's what we do. But it's not a list of products because once you say you just deserve, you deserve. A college degree, a job, a home. You deserve that stuff based on what? Based on what? I can wish all those things for you, but deserve is a very particular word. Deserve says that someone owes it to you. That's what deserve means. Right? If you deserve your salary, it's because you worked this week. If you deserve your private property rights, that's because it adheres to you as an individual human being. If I say you deserve a home, someone is supposed to now provide you the home. That's how that works. So again, America can dream as a list of things that the government is going to provide you is not in fact a conservative principle. All right, coming up, we will get to the vice president's comments on socialism and how to stop it. Plus, we will get to a crazy surrogacy story that reminds us why God made the system the way He kind of made the system. First, back to school season is here. That means the kids have new backpacks, new teachers, new schedules, and approximately four days from now, somebody in your house will have a runny nose because sending kids back to school, you're sending them into a gigantic germ exchange program. I mean, honestly, we're already hitting it. We are already hitting it. The minute we send our kids to a place, a bunch of other kids, someone comes down to the cold, I have five kids, it happens like all the, and then mommy gets it. It sucks. It's literally happening to my wife right now. This right now is the time of year when I'm especially conscious of what we need to eat. You want the fruits? You want the veggies? You want everybody eating well. And then reality intervenes. This is why balance of nature fits so easily into my routine. It's simple. If you're entering back to school chaos, I'll take every good habit I can get. But balance of nature.com today subscribes to the whole health system where any of their other subscriptions and receive an additional 10% off with promo code Shapiro. Plus, with my code Shapiro, balance of nature will also send you a free guiltless snack as balance of nature.com promo code Shapiro again, balance of nature.com promo code Shapiro. And when you subscribe to their whole health system or any of the other subscription packages, get an additional 10% off when you use promo code Shapiro. Lady Vance again, a lot of the right now is doing this routine where they believe that the best way to defeat socialism is by being socialist in our language. But that socialism, the reason socialism is on the rise is because the free markets have fake. got to burn down the free markets in order to save the free markets. And here's JD Vance yesterday. And my warning to my fellow Republicans will would be if we don't get this right, don't blame young people for being sympathetic to socialism, we've got to blame ourselves. And I think what is so unique and refreshing about Donald Trump's economic policies is that it's not the same old economic ideas that you would have heard 30, 40 years ago. He's talking about rebuilding our industrial base, rebuilding the heartland, making our streets safer, making it possible for young people to afford to buy a home. This is how you stop socialism. You don't stop socialism by throwing slogans at people about the free market. As much as I love the free market, you stop socialism by making people's lives better. And that's what we're trying to do every single day. Okay, you stop socialism by government making people's lives better. He's not a free market prop--when he says he loves the free market, by the way, you should read his autobiography. He clearly does not. I mean, if you read Communion, which is his new book, he really, really does not like the free market like at all. But again, this is the stop. So Republicans have basically decided we're going to follow the crowd. They're pissed off. And so what we're going to do is we are now going to repeat to them a bunch of democratic stuff, but water now just a little bit. If Democrats are giving you 100 proof, we're going to give you like 80 proof. Now, here is the reality. What you actually have to sell to the American public is opportunity. Right? That's the thing that you got to protect the process of the American dream and that government is inhibiting the American dream. This is what Reagan sold. Okay, the difference between what's being sold now, what was being sold by Reagan, you would never hear the language that Ronald Reagan used in 1980 used now. And it's funny. You have people on the right like, what did Reagan ever accomplish other than destroying the Soviet Union, creating two decades of uninterrupted economic growth and completely the reshaping American government. Aside from that, what did he accomplish? The dead hand of Reaganism. Well, I mean, he did win 49 states and then he bequeathed a third term to George H. W. Bush one of the most uninspiring politicians ever to hold the presidency with again, like 48 states, I believe against Michael Ducakis. So there's that. Okay, why? Because capitalism and free markets are the only economic force that have ever generated prosperity and innovation over any serious amount of time. Free markets have made our lives better. Positing the free markets, we need something besides free markets to make lives better. The idea that if we spend up the wazoo and hand you things that will win over the people, you're not going to be able to outbid the Democrats on this. You just won't because it's not possible. If you start from the framework that you're here, you're breathing. It doesn't matter what decisions you make. It doesn't matter if you make wise, good, virtuous decisions at all. You deserve X, Y and Z. You're paid for by somebody else. You will lose to the Democrats because they are promising X, Y, Z and also A through W. All paid for by somebody else. Okay, this is what Democrats are doing right now. So, you know, Republicans are busy laughing at the DSA platform because the DSA platform basically makes the case that they are going to pay for literally everything that people do throughout their lives. So, Kato Institute demonstrated that the DSA, which again, wants to pay pretty much everything through taxation, that they're spending exceeds top and revenue potential, right, that you could take literally all of the corporate profits, all of the wealth from the Forbes 400, all of the money from raising the top income tax rate. I know not even remotely make a dent in the DSA's program. As Kato points out, the entire wealth of the richest Americans plus every dollar of corporate profit and maximum top income tax rates still leaves the DSA agenda between $29 trillion and $169 trillion short. The only remaining source of revenue large enough to cover the DSA agenda is the same one every large European welfare state relies on the middle class. To cover the DSA's high end spending estimate and current deficits, every $1 the federal government collects today would need to become about $4.36. That would push the 24% bracket above 100% and the top rate above 160%. But again, reality doesn't matter. So long as you have politicians of both parties selling you on the idea that we never have to pay for anything, you're just going to get outbid. That's all you will. And this is what Democrats across the country are doing. They're just outbidding their Republicans. Xavier Basera, who is running against Steve Hilton in the California gubernatorial race, he is proposing a power hour free electricity plan for Californians because again, everything is free. By free we mean we'll just pay for it later and by we we mean someone else. I wanted to mention here an idea that I believe we can actually put into action within my first year and it's what we're calling my power hour. I believe that we can say to Californians, maybe we start smaller, maybe with those who are lower income for whom affording their electricity bill is really difficult. And we say, I'm going to offer you two hours of free electricity. How do I pay for that? Well, it just so happens that today we produce so much solar energy electricity that oftentimes in the afternoon we can't make use of all of it. And so essentially goes the waste or we ship it off to some other state. Sometimes we have to pay to ship it out. Why don't we use it? Okay, it's magic, right? They're just going to magic this thing. Zoran Mamdani doing the same thing in New York. He says that we're just going to magic free child care. The Gothamist pointed out that he made child care free for 22,000 New York, he says this is just the beginning. And apparently now Zoran Mamdani and Parks Commissioner Trisha Shimamura announced the launch of New York City Parks first ever parents night out. A free one night drop off program that gives parents and caregivers the opportunity to enjoy the evenings themselves while children participate in supervised fun and select in New York City Parks recreation centers across the five boroughs. Yeah, dropping York kid with a rando sounds awesome. A government hired rando. How could this go wrong? Yeah, they're just going to promise everything. There's going to be Republicans can't up in them now again. All these policies will eventually fail. Eventually all this stuff will fail because reality always wins. Eventually, eventually. And you're seeing that happen in New York City with regard to real estate, for example. So New York City borrowed landlords from passing broker fees on to renters. So now renters are having to pay $4,000 to view hidden listings. There's always spill over effects of bad policy. But that's the way that it works. Reality always hits your heart, bro. That's the way that it always works. But it does in fact sometimes take a while. And here's the thing about our leadership class. Here's the thing about our leadership class. If nobody, nobody ever says the hard things. If nobody ever tells the truth, if everybody just follows the people around with the butterfly nut. If that's all that we do here, then it's going to take a lot longer for the truth to win because there are fewer people telling it. And doesn't mean the truth is going to win in the near term. Doesn't mean truth is going to win in the medium term. But if you want truth to win and you want it to win faster than full-scale disaster, you actually need to tell the truth. The reason that failing tyrannies, by the way, pursue censorship is because of this. They believe that if they put off people hearing the truth, it'll take longer for reality to manifest. And that's correct. They're right about that. Right now, pretty much nobody is telling the truth. And what that means, the Democrats have open running field ideologically and they're using it. They're using it because the pushback is so limited. It brings us to the charming story of the sister, the half-sister of Abdul Al-Sahia. Now, again, the relatives of political candidates, sometimes that's relevant if they're contributing to the candidates, sometimes not. But Abdul Al-Sahia's radical half-sister is a great story just because it demonstrates the kind of ideology that now predominates on the left. So she is a self-described queer Muslim activist, not sure how that works. Her name is Iman Abdul-Hadi. She's a professor in the Department of Comparative Human Development at the University of Chicago. She advocates, according to the Washington-Freebeacon, for a stateless, communist society and is called to abolish the police. University actually announced an investigation in Dorkonduct after she condemned the school as a colonial landlord and police force. She wrote, quote, "F the University of Chicago, it's evil. Like, you know, months later in October, she was arrested and charged with felony aggravated battery after prosecutors said she knowingly and intentionally spit on a state trooper while protesting out of a nice facility near the university. This is her mug shot." She seems like a charming individual. She's also author of the, quote, unquote, "funkey, commie, queer novel, everything for everyone, an oral history of the New York Commune." Alongside her bestie, co-author, Emil Bryan, a trans communist, who also wrote the 2023 book Family Abolition, Capitalism and the Communizing of Care. The second novel is a fictionalized oral history of sex workers, anti-fascist militants, and survivors of all stripes, who band together to create a radically new social order forged in the ashes of capitalist collapse. It depicts a communist in New York in which police are abolished and the nuclear family is replaced by caretaking relationships within the commune and depicts a Middle East in which Israel is destroyed by a final in Nevada. Now, again, here is Iman Abdel-Hadi talking about the University of Chicago and using it as a platform for power. Again, this is what the left does. And all this woman tells the truth about them, and their ass and eye agenda, you know, they can continue to win. The University of Chicago, it's evil. Like, you know, it's a colonial landlord. Why would I put any of my political energy into this space? And I kind of had a little bit of disdain for people who spent a lot of time doing that. I think the question that I'm asking myself and I'm asking you to ask yourself is where can I actually build power? Turns out, I work at one of the biggest employers in the city of Chicago. I work at a place that is a landlord, a health care provider, a police force, that should be. But they are, right? And a place where I have access to thousands of people that I could potentially organize. But I'm just like, actually, this is where I need to build power, right? Like this is my best possible structural leverage. Like, like, like, like, yeah, like, like. She also hates Thanksgiving, of course. Anzionism, racism, colonialism, patriarchy, heteronormativity, and capitalism. She's over it. And of course, she's very excited that her brother is running for the Senate. This is the core philosophy of the new Woke 2.0. Very exciting stuff. Very, very exciting stuff. The DSA, again, feels completely unshackled because the Democratic Party has surrendered to them. And because, frankly, the Republican Party has decided to engage in sort of a soft form of socialism, stateism, whatever you want to call it. So the DSA is putting out full commemorations of Fidel Castro's rule and calling on, saying the Marco Rubio is genociding the Cuban people. Again, the term genocide now just means a thing I don't like. When someone undercooks your stake, they genocided your stake now. This is how far the term has fallen. The Democrats, of course, are caving to all of this. Senator Adam Schiff, who you may recall from such hits as I'm going to impeach President Trump and I'm going to impeach President Trump again. Well, Senator Schiff, he is out there saying they need to be a big 10 party, including the people who love terrorism and communism. - Is this one Democratic Party right now? Like, what's going on, Senator? - It is one Democratic Party. And I think if we want to be in the majority, we're going to have to be a big 10 party. I would much rather have that diversity in our party than have it outside the party. - Okay. All right, things are going well here in this United States. The defense, by the way, the biggest defense right now that we are getting of people like the Hassan Pikeurs, you know, people who say 9/11 was justified and all that. The biggest defense is that now, the left's has discovered that it's against cancel culture, which is quite amusing after having spent years destroying the careers and livelihoods of people who say that men aren't women. They are now saying that it's cancel culture not to campaign alongside a man who says that Chisbalah's flag is glorious. Representative Pramila Jaya Paul, she is very upset because the University of Washington had an event scheduled with Hassan Pikeur and they canceled it. And Chisbalah's a member of the Judiciary Committee, I've been absolutely clear that free speech is a constitutional right, must all stand up and protect. Have you been that clear? I don't know. Now again, as somebody who believes that pretty much anybody gets to speak on a college campus, I'm fine with Hassan Pikeur speaking on a college campus. I mean, I think that it's idiocy that people are inviting him and I think people are more on us to go listen to him, but sure he has the right to speak on a college campus. A right that I don't believe that he thinks extends to people like me on the other side. Hassan Pikeur now stumping in favor of free speech and due process. One of the things he says, we must fight back against the undemocratic and un-American forces of Trumpism. I love him talking about un-Americanism and undemocratic. He literally stands for China. It's crazy. Just demonstrates that for the left, they just use all of the wonderful tools of Americanism against America. That is the entire thing. So great things happening over there on the left. Okay, onto a bizarre story of the day that has some kind of interesting social ramifications. So this is an incredible story and what this story really is about in the end is the fact that when you separate a part, all of the various parts of baby making from baby birthing and baby rearing, when you separate those things off as a matter of policy, not as an exception to a general rule, but you say that it's a matter of moral apathy as to how babies are made, born, brought up and all of this kind of stuff. You end up with bizarre and kind of terrible stories like this one. So there's a story out of California, KTLA reporting. A baby born with a rare heart defect is at the center of a bitter legal dispute between the child's biological parents and the woman who gave birth to the baby as a surrogate against their wishes. So again, this is insane now. It's insane. Gave birth to the baby against their wishes. Why would your wishes for the death of a baby be relevant in any context, let alone this one? There's a woman in McKenna West should agree to act as a surrogate for the LA couple Omar Ahmed and now sheen Gilkar. The couple opted to terminate the pregnancy at around 20 weeks. So they operated to terminate a pregnancy in her stomach. So you now have like a double violation of principle, right? You're even violating the left wing, her body, her choice principle here, but you're also obviously trying to kill a baby. They opted to terminate the pregnancy at around 20 weeks after it was revealed that the boy had a rare and life-threatening congenital heart condition called hypoplastic left heart syndrome, in which the left side of the heart doesn't fully develop. According to a copy of the surrogacy contract obtained by the Dallas Morning News, the document West Signed allows for the intended parents to choose a portion in the case of a futile anomaly. But West refused to have the abortion and then she fled to Texas, where abortion is banned. There she sought specialists who could treat the baby's defect according to the New York Times. On August 12th, West gave birth to the baby in Dallas and is now seeking custody of the child. So Texas attorney general Ken Paxden got involved. He took legal action arguing in court that the biological parents were required to provide lifesaving at medical care to the child under Texas law. That court order was successfully issued on August 11th. So that meant that the lifesaving care had to be provided once the baby was born. The order also barred West from presenting herself as the baby's parent or guardian and prevented her from making any medical decision on the child's behalf. And from having any contacts with the child after birth, although West is now planning to continue pursuing custody. The LA couple has not spoken publicly about the case. They filed a lawsuit against her. The KTLA legal analyst, a person named Jessica Levinson, said, "You can sign a contract, but it's not clear that every provision is enforceable." I think it is on legally very tenuous grounds because the gestational surrogate does have bodily autonomy, does have control over her body. I think it'd be very difficult to have a situation where the genetic parents force the gestational surrogate into aborting the child. So again, this is a straight couple. They decided to use a surrogate. And now the fight is over who the baby belongs to and whether they had the right to kill their genetic baby that was being carried in the stomach of another person. And that is what this case is about. And it is pretty dicey territory when you start divvying up the various parts of babymaking. There's a lot cleaner when it was, man, woman, get married, have sex, produce child, have child. A lot easier. And then we decided to create entire legal systems around the principle that you could just do this and also have the ability to essentially violate the rights of the child and of the surrogate. Pretty insane stuff. California surrogacy laws. That is supposedly one of the most surrogacy-friendly states in the nation. Surrogacy contracts detailed scenarios for abortion, including genetic defects and health risks. If a surrogate refuses an abortion when requested by the parents, she can be financially penalized. Now in Texas, it is still illegal to perform the abortion no matter what. So it'll be interesting to see how this plays out at Interstate Court. Here was the surrogate McKenna West saying that she was not going to have the abortion. - It was scary facing financial ruin, was scary, but nothing was scarier than questioning my own soul and knowing what would happen to this baby boy, if I flew to Seattle and his life doesn't have a price tag on it. There's nothing that they could try to come after me for that would be worth his life. - That was McKenna West with Laila Rose, our friend over at Live Action. Again, surrogacy is a very dicey proposition. It gets even diceier. It gets far diceier when it's optional. Again, what I mean by that is that it's not infertility-based. It seems like in this case, it was infertility-based and then there are multiple sort of moral questions. One obviously is surrogacy itself. Another one of those moral questions is, they had a provision, that a contract, so they could abort the baby if the baby was damaged. And that's how you end up in that fight. But this particular, I gotta say, it is particularly bizarre and insane. It's certainly not a matter of moral apathy. And when you treat it as a matter of moral apathy, then basically human life becomes a handbag, which is what has happened in Lotton Hollywood. You're seeing a bunch of women who just don't feel like what I'm quote distorting their bodies. By the way, she's point out, women having babies is not distorting your body. It is using your body in the greatest possible fashion it is possible to use a human body. A woman having a baby is literally what the female body was built for. Okay, that is what it was built for. It's why it's built differently than a male body. That doesn't mean it's the only thing for which you can use your body or anything like that. But clearly the natural process of having a baby is part of being a woman. Like that literally is what to, when people ask what is a woman the answer is, the being that produces the large, as I, the large piece of genetic material that turns into a baby, that is the answer to that question. Okay, so in any case, where I start to get, I mean, this case is in and of itself insane, right? Because you're talking about a boarding a baby that's 20 weeks old because of a heart defect. I have sort of a personal stake in that beyond just the normal. My oldest child's I've discussed before had a heart defect. She had to have open heart surgery when she was a year and a half old. She's wonderful. She's 12 years old now. Everything's cool. But even if it had not been cool, she's an independent human being with an independent interest in life. It's crazy. It's crazy. Okay, but this becomes even crazier when you just have people who are wedded to the idea that surrogacy is just a matter of, again, buying a Chanel handbag because they don't wish for their tummy to be a little bit protrudy after the pregnancy. This is a Chloe Kardashian interest in Thomas. Finding out, but this is amazing. They actually went and got a surrogate. It's not for infertility reasons. And then they found out the surrogate could abort their child because it turns out that in California, a surrogate can't abort without the permission of the people who have paid for the surrogacy. And they were shocked. What are your beliefs about fetal reduction or termination of pregnancy due to multiple pregnancies? Say the embryos, the surrogate was carrying twins suddenly. If we are blessed to have multiples, we think that's in God's will, so we're on board with that. And what if your surrogate wasn't on board with that? But don't they have to kind of go with what our wishes are? (dramatic music) Well, it's your baby, but it's her body. So she could terminate the pregnancy with any unplanned outcome. Yeah, this would be the problem. This would be the problem right there, I noticed. Again, brave new worlding is, it comes with risks. It comes with risks. And one of the things that we do as a society is we look at very sympathetic cases in fertile couples. And then we say, okay, what is the system we can build for those infertile couples? And then we don't allow that to just even be the system, even if you agree with the system. We don't allow that just to be the system for infertile couples. We say it's applicable to everyone. And that's how you end up with the, again, very famous legal phrase, hard cases make bad law. And that is a wild case out of California and Texas. Alrighty, folks, you think the show is over wrong you are, the show must go on. It continues, always. If you're a daily wearer member, you're gonna get even more analysis, more news coverage. We'll answer a couple of your questions. Right at this very instant, we'll get into trans politics. You thought it was done, it is not done. Well, it is still in Iran, the Minneapolis mayor, dancing around like an idiot. If you're not a member, become a member, use coach Shapiro, check out for two months free, on all annual plans. Click that link in the description and join us. (gun shots) - Your country is beneath contempt. 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