Ep. 2393 - AMERICA LAST: Conspiratorial Collaborationists Root For Our Enemies
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The transcription from *The Ben Shapiro Show* argues against critics termed "America lasters," who are accused of minimizing threats from adversarial regimes like Iran. It asserts that recent Iranian missile tests, including an intermediate-range ballistic missile launched toward Diego Garcia (approximately 4,000 miles away), disprove claims that Iran's capabilities are limited to the Middle East. The host contends that Iran's actions—such as targeting civilian areas in Israel and holy sites in Jerusalem—reflect a regime in desperation, facing internal chaos and economic strain. U.S. responses, including President Trump's threats to strike Iranian power plants if the Strait of Hormuz is not secured, are framed as necessary measures to counter Iranian aggression. European allies are described as passive, while regional partners like the UAE emphasize long-term security solutions. The segment concludes by warning that Iran's only leverage lies in disrupting oil transit, but U.S. military actions aim to neutralize this threat.
Do you agree with Chinese dictators Xi Jinping and Russian dictator Vladimir Putin about the world? Are you convinced that America ought to surrender its global power to a multi-polar order? If so, you might be a quizzling, a fifth columnist, an America laster, and there are plenty of them. They've spent years lying about America, about our history, about our foreign policy, about our enemies, about our allies. In the end, the only unifying feature of their bizarre amalgam of conspiracism and untruth is an agenda. An agenda to reduce America's role in the world. Today, we're going to talk about the America lasters, the people who played defense for Iran and Russia and China, but who go on offense against the allies who fight alongside the United States. What do these people want? What is their actual agenda? And why? Why do they so despise America's dominant role in the world? This is the Ben Shapiro Show. To understand the America lasters, we first have to understand a basic reality. They're liars. They are lying about the nature of reality, and they have to lie because their lies are the only path toward American defeat, particularly in the current conflict with Iran. I haven't told you for weeks. Those who most ardently opposed President Trump's action are at best misinformed and at worst, many of them are lying on behalf of the Iranian regime. Their argument has been since the beginning that Iran was not a true threat to America or her interests that President Trump was bamboozled into the war by lying nefarious Israelis and domestic American voices. That all of this with regard to Iran is overblown, or even the Israel is the bad guy with regard to Iran. Well, over the weekend Iran blew that entire narrative up. Over the weekend, Iran demonstrated full scale that all of their defenders were useful idiots or America lasters. The fools who claimed that Iran posed no threat beyond the immediate region. They were parroting Iranian lies just a few weeks ago. Iranian foreign minister Abbas Araki was likely not long for this non-72 virgin world, announced that Iran had limited its own missile range to 2,000 kilometers. That would be 1,200 miles. That would make Iran a threat to the Middle East, but not to the heart of Europe. We have intentionally kept the range of our missiles below 2,000 kilometers. So we don't have that capability and we don't want to do that. Well, top American officials at the time warned it was not true. We hear a senator Tom Cotton, but the CIA Director John Rackliffe last week. Iran has always had a space launch program, which is flimsy cover for the first part of that intercontinental missile program. I have seen Iranian astronauts in space lately. And second, they have medium-range ballistic missiles, which already have a reentry vehicle. So if you crudely married those two technologies together, I've heard some analysts say that Iran could have had a functioning intercontinental missile to threaten the United States in as few as six months. Would you agree with that assessment? Well, you're right to be concerned about Iran's development of longer-range ballistic missiles senator. If Iran were allowed to develop at the IRBM ranges, which is 3,000 kilometers, it would threaten most of Europe. Well, over the weekend, US officials announced that Iran had launched two intermediate-range ballistic missiles at Diego Garcia, that is a joint US-UK airbase in the Indian Ocean. The missiles didn't hit the target. Diego Garcia is 4,000 miles away. So, what does that mean? Well, let's take a look at this map. What you see here is a map of the area of 1,000 kilometer ballistic missile range that is the interior circle here. And you see that it covers all of the Middle East. It covers parts of India. It goes into parts of Russia. And then you see what the 2,000 kilometer range would look like. And the answer is the entirety of Europe, like all of Europe. If you're audio-only just listening to this, the map shows virtually all of Europe in Iranian ballistic missile range based on the attempt to hit Diego Garcia airbase. So, the Iranians appear to have been lying, which is not a shock because they lie all the time the Iranian government. Just like they've been lying about their nuclear program and their terrorist support all over the region, and you know everything else. The Europeans apparently are within direct missile range. So, what would a world with a burgeoning Iranian nuclear program with intercontinental ballistic missile capacity look like? Well, that is precisely the threat laid out by President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu over the course of the last several years. They've already developed missiles that can threaten Europe and our bases overseas. And they're working to build missiles that will soon reach the United States of America. You know, Iran talks about death to Israel, death to America. They just see us as a stepping stone to getting to America with ICBMs, you know, long-range missiles that can be targeted on any American city with nuclear bombs. So, we're fighting our battle for sure. We're fighting the free world's battle against the barbarians. An Iranian regime armed with long-range missiles and nuclear weapons would be an intolerable threat to the Middle East, but also to the American people. Our country itself would be under threat. That regime has a built-in DNA. And that DNA says no America and no Israel would stand in the way of getting to America. They want to develop long-range ballistic missiles with nuclear warheads to threaten you and threaten every American. And that's what has been stopped. And it's where the good of all Americans. Now again, we were told by the America lastters that all of this was untrue. There was all a lie. And then of course, the lie was put to their lie by the fact that there was in fact a long-range missile that was aimed at Diego Garcia, which is thousands of miles from Iranian territory. Well, the Europeans who are now apparently under the possibility of an Iranian missile umbrella, they appear to be doing, you know, as usual, not very much because that's what Europeans do. NATO ahead, Mark Rudy, keeps providing rhetorical support. The good news is that these 32 countries are following the President's lead on making sure that we free up the state of our moves. Obviously, the military campaign is still ongoing, so that's why we are working now, these countries together. And also it's the US to make sure that we assess what then and how we can do this. Well, the European support, if it's going to kick in, they're not going to hike here now. It seems you're already on the verge of the Arab world stepping in full scale. The United Arab Emirates presidential advisor Anwar Gargash put out a statement over the week, unquote, as we confront the brutal Iranian aggression and discover our steadfast strength in resilience and endurance, our thinking does not stop at a ceasefire, but rather toward the solutions that ensure lasting security in the Arabian Gulf. Herbing the nuclear threat, missiles drones bullying of the straits, it's conceivable that aggression should turn into a permanent state of threat. In other words, no more stopgap measures, no more kicking the can down the road. Iran appears to be on its last legs. Treasury Secretary Scott Becant appeared on Meet the Press over the weekend. Here's what he had to say. Just to be clear, the command and control system of the Iranian regime is in chaos. This is Hitler's bunker. Hitler is dead. Himmler is dead. Goring is dead. Most of what you were seeing are lone wolf activities. This, the mid-range ICBM that was shot off these two missiles yesterday. That's out of desperation, Kristen. The Treasury Secretary is not wrong here, according to Axios. US and Israeli intelligence think that the "Geyatola" Mochitebachameini might still be alive, but they really have no evidence that he is according to Axios, quote, "a US official said it's beyond weird. We don't think the Iranians would have gone through all this trouble to choose a dead guy as the supreme leader, but at the same time, we have no proof he's taking the helm." Two senior Israeli officials claim the larjani assassination expanded the power vacuum and that it was being filled mainly by the IRGC that's the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps. The IRGC are taking over Iran and they are crazy. A senior Arab official told Axios they are highly ideological and they are ready to die and meet Hamaynye senior. Iran is in pretty serious trouble and they know it. And that is why they are doing truly idiotic things. I got at any strategic level. What they just did over the weekend is really stupid. Firing a long-range missile that exposes their most far-reaching capacity is a dumb thing to do. They know they are in trouble and they are throwing anything they can at the wall. They are hurling spaghetti at the wall at this point. Aside from firing new long-range missiles at American bases in the middle of the Indian Ocean, they also over the weekend fired a missile at the center of the old city of Jerusalem, which is where the dome of the rock is. That is where the Al-Aqsa mosque is, is where the temple mount is. Here's footage of an Iranian missile fragment landing in the old city of Jerusalem. I know exactly where this area is. It is in a highly traffic area. People walk in this area all the time and you can see the missile fragment blowing a gigantic hole basically in the road. That's about 1200 meters from the temple mount itself. They are clearly trying to light the region on fire as a last resort. They are setting the building on fire because they are hoping that the cops won't enter. They also fired missiles at Dimona and Arad in Israel. Those are civilian centers. Presumably they were trying to fire at Israel's nuclear reactor in Dimona. They missed. Instead they hit an area between apartment buildings. It wounded over 100 people in this, including children. Here's some aerial footage of what the damage looked like. Again, this is an ultra-orthodox area. It was lucky that the missile didn't hit the buildings directly. It actually hit between the buildings. It did a lot of damage to people anyway who weren't in their mommods. Those would be their safe rooms. Killing civilians, firing long-range missiles, targeting religious holy sites, including Muslim religious holy sites. None of this is the mark of a regime empowered and strengthened in great shape in this war. It is the mark of regime.
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So the problem with ODNI, Tulsi Gabbert, is that she has always been oriented very much in an isolationist sort of quasi-antamerican direction when it comes to foreign policy. And there have been serious questions about how she shades the intelligence. And this makes a big difference. The way that we examine our intelligence information, a bunch of raw information comes into our intelligence apparatus. And then how you analyze that information is sort of a choose your own adventure game. So you will hear CIA director John Ratcliffe say things. And then you will hear Tulsi Gabbert, who is the DNI theoretically overseeing the CIA and they will say two different things. So the question is to whether they are quote unquote developing ICBMs. The question is not really how fast are they? The question is, could they and what is their intent? And that's difficult to discern based on the raw intelligence. And so that's why you can have two intelligence officials in the same exact administration saying two things that appear to be in direct conflict. Okay, so let's talk about the only hope for Iran. The only hope left for Iran is that the West gets tired. And their only true point of leverage remains oil prices, which means really the straight of hormones. President Trump knows that is pretty much done with it. That's why Sunday evening he put out the following tweets, quote, "peace through strength to put it mildly." That was on truth social. Treasury Secretary Scott Besson says we are already moving to destroy fortifications along the straight of hormones. Again, if you look at sort of a map of the straight of hormones, it kind of looks like this. Well, the sort of northern point of that of that spear right there on the Iranian shore, that is the territory that Iran has to hold in order to, in order to fire drones at shipping in the straight of hormones. The United States has been expending resources blowing that stuff out of the ground. What we have done, there has been a campaign to the using military assets to soften up the Iranian fortifications along the straight that's going to continue until they are completely demolished. And well, over the weekend, President Trump pulled out the stops rhetorically. He made a threat on Saturday that basically sent the markets into a TZ. He said, quote, "If Iran doesn't fully open without threat, the straight of hormones within 48 hours from this exact point in time, the United States of America will hit and obliterate their various power plants starting with the biggest one first. Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Trump." Well, UN Ambassador Mike Walls on the Sunday shows made clear that President Trump wasn't not joking. Here's what he had to say on CBS with Margaret Brennan. How do you ensure that this doesn't constitute a war crime, which the UN Secretary General said an attack on energy infrastructure could be? How do you make sure this is not mass punishment for innocent people? Well, I think I would encourage and will encourage the Secretary General to point out the 20 to 30,000 Iranians that the regime massacred at scale, this civilian infrastructure that they're attacking. >> No one is forcing you. >> And when you have a regime that has its grips in so much critical infrastructure that's using it to further not only the repression of its own people to attack its neighbors, and in contravention of UN sanctions to march towards a nuclear weapon, then that makes those legitimate targets. >> Well, Walls also added that this was, in fact, incredible threat that when President Trump says, well, bomb their power plants, he was not joking about this. >> Is he going to bomb a nuclear power plant, or is that off the table? >> Well, I would never take anything off the table for the president, certainly not on national television. However, there are larger plants. There's one outside of Tehran, there are others outside of other cities that are gas-fired, thermal-powered. I think the important point here is to understand the IRGC, a declared terrorist organization, not only by us, but a number of European countries controls a huge swath of Iran's critical infrastructure, their economy, and certainly many of their governing institutions. So to the extent where degrading their military capability and their defense industrial base, all options should be on the table, and the presidents made that very clear. >> Now, this would be a pretty extreme tactic, even Crown Prince Reza Palavi, who is hoping for the overthrow of the regime clearly, came out against that measure, given it would chiefly affect the Iranian people rather than the regime in his mind. Well, in response, Iran is both pretending that the straight is currently opening, and also threatening retaliation for any action against Iranian power plants. Masood Pasezkin, who is walking around with an eye on the sky these days, he says the illusion of erasing Iran from the map shows desperation against the will of a history-making nation. By the way, nobody is talking about erasing Iran from the map. They are talking about the fall of a regime that has terrorized 80 to 90 million people for two generations at this point. Threats in terror only strengthen our unity, says Pasezkin. The straight of foremost is open to all, except those who violate our soil. We firmly confront delirious threats on the battlefield. Right now, Iran is trying to charge people to $2 million a piece to transit the straight of Hormuz. Abbas Iraqi, the foreign minister, he put out a statement called straight of Hormuz is not closed. Ships hesitate because insurers fear the war of choice you initiated not Iran. Well, actually, they hesitate because they're afraid that Iran is going to hit their ships with drones. No insurer in Iranian will be swayed by more threats. Try respect, it says Iraqi. Freedom of navigation cannot exist without freedom of trade, respect both or expect neither. Well now, Iran is also threatening to hit other infrastructure in other countries. In the Middle East, they're threatening to hit energy fields and to salination facilities. And the truth is, of course, they've already been hitting infrastructure throughout the Middle East throughout this war. Here's a mere partial list of resources hit by Iran during the current conflict. They hit the Aramco complex at Ras Tanura. They hit the Ras Lafon LNG complex, that would be liquefied natural gas complex in Qatar. They hit the Habsran gas facility and Bob Unshore oil facility in UAE. They hit a water desalination facility in Bahrain. Well as it turns out, the Iranian regime may be talking tough while negotiating their own disarmament with President Trump on Monday morning. President Trump put out a statement suggesting, quote, "all outstanding issues were close to being resolved with Iran through back channel negotiations," put out the statement, quote, "All caps. I am pleased to report that the United States of America and the country of Iran have had over the last two days, very good and productive conversations regarding a complete and total resolution of our hostilities in the Middle East." Based on the tenor and tone of these in-depth, detailed and constructive conversations, which will continue throughout the week, I've instructed the Department of War to postpone any and all military strikes against Iranian power plants and energy infrastructure for a five-day period subject to the success of the ongoing meetings and discussions. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Now, again, he is only pledging that there will be no hits on the power plants and energy infrastructure for a five-day period. All the rest of the strikes will continue. So it could have been that President Trump's original statement that came out, again, Saturday morning on power stations may have been negotiating tactic to up the ante. So what would a negotiated outcome look like while according to Barack Ravid over at Axios? The administration has set out six terms. One, no missile program for five years. Two, zero uranium enrichment. Three, decommissioning the nuclear reactors in Natanz Isfahan and Fort Al. Four, strict outside observation protocols around centrifuges. Five, arms control treaties with regional countries, including a missile cap of 1006, no financing of proxies. Now I will admit, to me, this sounds fanciful. Iran is currently saying that they want a permanent ceasefire, right? A commitment never to renew attacks and also reparations for damaged stuff like we're going to pay them. And they've said repeatedly in the past they will not commit to ending their nuclear program. And I will say that these conditions appear under inclusive on their face. There are other nuclear facilities outside of Natanz Isfahan and Fort Al, including, for example, Pick X Mountain. It will require American inspectors on the ground to truly ensure centrifuge monitoring and arms control monitoring as well, like who's actually going to testify that Iran is keeping its commitments. And if anyone believes the Iranian government is going to be bound by some sort of arms control treaty, including a missile cap of 1000.
That sounds again delusional to me. Iran has already fired approximately 600 missiles in the last three weeks. And again, their entire strategy relies on being able to overpower air defenses because the vast majority of those have been shot down. Well, as of this morning, the Iranian foreign ministry was denying negotiations altogether. So while the president is saying the negotiations are ongoing, the Iranian foreign ministry is saying that's not true. So you have to decide who to believe. They're claiming they backed President Trump down, which seems doubtful. We deny the statements of US President Donald Trump regarding the negotiations taking place between the United States and the Islamic Republic of Iran. The Islamic Republic of Iran maintains its positions against any negotiation before Iran achieves its war objectives. Now, my source to suggest that negotiations have in fact been taking place. The Iranians claiming that the negotiations are not taking place in that they back Trump off the ball. That seems like an unwise approach. Now, there are some other possibilities here. It is possible that President Trump is announcing diplomatic efforts in order to show the American people that he's availing himself of all options. So if he has to go even harder, they'll understand he tried to talk this through with the Iranians before we went really, really hard. So say before we take Hargai'lan, he's showing we tried to talk it through and then we had to do what we had to do. The most likely reality, of course, is that President Trump put out the statement because he wants to signal to the markets that there will be an end to the war at some point in the fairly near future and he wants the price of oil to drop. After all, this is exactly what happened last week. You remember Israel struck an Iranian gas field southpars and America did approve of it and then the price of oil spiked. So President Trump said the Israelis did it on their own and that this wouldn't happen again and then the price went down again. Well, the same thing happened right here. Immediately upon announcing the postponement of those strikes on energy plants, the price of Brent Crude dropped from near $110 a barrel to below $100 a barrel. This is the balancing act the administration is trying to play here. They want the Iranian regime to be de-fenestrated at the same time. They want to keep the oil prices as low as possible in order to maintain public support for the action. The Trump administration understands the American people will keep supporting what has to be done in Iran. So long as it doesn't hit them too hard in the pocketbook. That would be the point, for example, of relieving certain sanctions in order to press down the oil prices because right now the United States is talking about, believe it or not, relieving Iranian oil sanctions in order to allow them to ship oil out, continue to ship oil out and keep the price of oil down. It was Scott Bezenth, the Treasury Secretary, explaining the sanctions calculus to Kristen Walker and NBC. If the point of the sanctions was to stop funding the Russian war machine, why is the administration effectively rewarding Russia again? Again, Kristen, you're missing the point, which is better. Does Russia get more money if oil goes to $150 and they get 70 percent of that, that's 105, or if oil stays below 100. So they're getting less money. Our analysis shows that the maximum extra amount the Russia could get would be $2 billion, which is one day of the Russian Federation's budget. But understood, but they wouldn't have gotten any of that with the sanctions in place. Kristen, I don't know. Whoever does your research, you should get rid of. Okay, so again, the Treasury Secretary is good at this. From the outside, I have to say this looks like a hard strategy to pull off. Every time the administration backs away from hard power in favor of some sort of temporary expedient on oil and gas prices, presumably that imposes the Iranian regime to lever up the economic pain. If they feel like that is their leverage point, they will use it. Or it's possible that the people in the know, in the Trump administration or in Israel, know something that we don't. That Iran militarily is on its last legs. So it actually doesn't matter very much what they do that if they have a little bit of extra money that's not going to save them. So if we can keep the price of oil down while finishing them off, maybe that is the best possible solution. Meanwhile, there is hiding just out of sight the 800 pound gorilla in the room. And that is the Iranian people. What happens when the people of Iran take to the streets in the aftermath of all this damage to the Iranian regime because make no mistake that is going to happen if Iranians took to the streets by the millions before all of this in the face of the IRGC and Basseej, killing them by the tens of thousands. What happens after the United States and Israel have killed all of Iran's top brass and they're hitting all of the field commanders of the Basseej in the streets with individual suicide drones. Well, here's US Senate Com Chief Brad Cooper talking to the Iranian people saying, don't go yet. First and foremost, we are attacking the regime in the Islamic Republic, not the wonderful people. The second piece is continue to heed our advice. We've had multiple messages that have come out that have said, beware, the government doesn't care about you. They're launching missiles and drones from populated areas. You need to stay inside for right now. Third, there will be a clear signal at some point as the president is indicated for you to be able to come out. So what is the likely outcome here? Well, the range of outcomes runs from the pretty good to the excellent. Iran's missile and drone capabilities have already been largely destroyed and to Air Force and its Navy are no longer existent. Its top regime figures are all dead. Even if the US were to walk away right now, Iran would be so much weaker than they were even one month ago. But the best outcome in my opinion is still on the table. Keep slamming them. I think we have to cut off their oil supply entirely by taking Harg Island. Reopen the straight of Hormuz by wreaking havoc on the coastal areas surrounding the straight. Continue to destroy Iran's military hierarchy. Turn the wave for a true domestic uprising. Sure. Iran could theoretically lash out and instead throw still further over the weekend. They apparently initiated. They activated some sort of terror cell in London to burn some hot salivans. Hotzala is a Jewish emergency medical services group. So they activated one of their terrorists else to burn some cars. The solution is not to leave the Iranian government in place to do all of this with greater power in the future to develop more missiles to redevelop its nuclear program when President Trump is not in the White House. That would be like arguing we ought not put down a rabid dog because hey, it might bite us. Ignoring the fact that if you leave the rabid dog alone, that's going to lead to a far greater spread of robidity and far more damage. Well, in video CEO Jensen Huang, I think, had an excellent take on all of this in short form on the all-in podcast. I believe that there's a reason we went to war and I believe at the end of the war, middle east will be more stable than before. So why should we be optimistic about a positive outcome in Iran because again, if you flip the table, assume for a second that Iran had been hitting the United States, the tune of killing the president, killing the vice president, killing our entire military infrastructure, destroying our entire missile arsenal, destroying our Air Force and our Navy, and we had basically been relegated to shutting off some of the waterways. Would that be a win or would that be an L? The reality is that three weeks of heavy bombing runs completely unfettered by anything like an Iranian air defense is not a win for Iran. It is in fact an L for Iran. And what happens next over the course of the next couple of years is going to tell the rest of the story. Well, in just one second, we'll get into the America lasters. First, the data are in. If you're not sleeping well, everything else in your life gets worse, your productivity, your health, even your decision making, they'll take a hit. 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Ron, I think, would love nothing better at this point than to blow up all oxa from the outside. Blame Israel for it. Claim that Israel is going to build the third temple on that territory and that now this is all the Muslims all over the Middle East must side with Iran. I think that was their actual goal in firing missiles at the oil. I mean, this is insane. What they're trying to do right now is totally, totally crazy. But do I think they're going to succeed in that?
No, I think the Israeli government knows what they're trying to do. Yes, so I think the Saudi government knows what they're trying to do. Yes. The reality is everyone in the region is now allied. Everyone is now allied against Iran. The rumors over the weekend that the Qataris are doing what they do best trying to bribe the Iranians, like trying to pin billions of dollars to allow some shipping through the straight of Hormuz. And there's some people playing both sides in the Middle East. But overall, so I think that that is a likelihood or even really a possibility. I do not. Any more questions? How can the Iranian people rise up as long as they don't have guns? And if we're destroying all of Iran's military capacity, where will a hopefully secular new government get their guns from? OK, so the first question is the big one. And I think the answer right now is nobody kind of knows who has guns, who does it, and what's going to happen next. So you presume that there would have to be some storming of some arsenals. We know there are limited weapons. There are some guns. We just don't know who has them or how many. There are the outlying areas again over the weekend. The New York Times reported that the United States has fallen out of love with the idea of Iranian Kurds leading an armed rebellion in the Kurdish region of Iran. We know they have guns. So we will see. We'll see how that plays out. However, I think one of the moves here would be don't disband, for example, the Iranian Army. Get rid of the IRGC and the busier. Those are the ideological repression machines inside Iran. The Iranian Army is devised for the defense of Iran. Where they are significantly more moderate supposedly than the IRGC or the or the busier, which is why the IRGC and the busier exists. So it's sort of the difference between say the the German Army officer is in 1932 versus some of the paramilitary groups that were run by the Nazi party. So that that's sort of the analogy here. So those people presumably would not go home. They would continue to do policing functions, for example. Okay. So Jensen Huang over in video is right. The world will be far better off for what President Trump is doing right now because it turns out that what we are doing right now is not just destroying Iran's foreign capacity. We are also reshuffling the deck with regard to global power. We are telling the Chinese that we are unwilling to allow for their global domination or for the rise of a sphere of influence. We are telling the Russians that we do not wish for them to continue to have massive impact in the Middle East. A world in which the United States acts as an unchallenged global hedgeman is better. It is better than a world of multi polarity. Multi polarity is an anodine term for a world in which the tyrannical evil communist Chinese party flexes its muscles over a large part of the globe and the tyrannical and evil Russian government does the same in Eastern Europe and the Middle East. Multi polarity is bad. It is not morally neutral. It is bad because what it means practically is that China controls a lot more territory and Russia controls a lot more territory and China threatens our allies and Russia threatens our allies. The chief advocates for multi polarity unsurprisingly at this plenty of time are the Chinese and the Russians. So Xi, the dictator of China, explained in 2024 he sought quote "an equal and orderly multi polar world and a universally beneficial and inclusive economic globalization". And what does he mean by that? That's fans he talked for. We want more power. We want our sphere of influence. And when they say they want equal rights, the hell they do, they don't want Taiwan to have equal rights. They certainly didn't want Hong Kong to have equal rights. Vladimir Putin visited China and said in 2025, totally mirrored Xi, he said quote "a unipolar world is unfair. It's unfair if Russia doesn't get its own sphere of influence". Now again, this has been a long time Russian belief. Alexander Dugan, his sort of Putin's brain, has explained this, I've done full episodes exploring what Dugan thinks. He says that the Russian ambition in the world cannot be territorial. It has to be imperial. That basically it can't just be Russia, rules and tone-roost. It has to be that Russia seeks power all the way out to the Atlantic Ocean, which means domination of Europe. Putin said quote "it's obvious the world must be multi polar, which means that the actors of international communication and international relations must be equal. There must be no one more equal than the others. A unipolar world must cease to exist". Now again, recognize this is the Russian government that just invaded Ukraine and seeks to turn it into a vassal state. Now, members of the grievance party, the America Lasters, people who actually really do despise America's history and her present, are openly siding with China and Russia, just as they have with Iran in the current conflict. Tucker Carlson, who has been openly identified by Dugan as an ideological ally, recently told this to the economist. We can no longer be the sole author of terms, of commerce, of anything. We have to share power. We've signed up. Of course, because of their scale. Hey, Tucker's guests make this argument all the time. And just as often they are Chinese propaganda. Take for example Jeffrey Sachs, who's on Tucker's show all the time. He's a true globalist show, meaning he has called for global government. And he's basically an unofficial spokesperson for the Chinese Communist Party. Here he is making the case that we ought to see more power to China. In many ways, the United States cannot compete with China, certainly manufacturing production across a wide range of industries, can't compete with China in a wide range of diplomatic areas. And this is very disruptive. Probably would be intrinsically disruptive because this is a change of power and a change of the international order. And I think we all feel that it's not a temporary phenomenon, but really the end of the US led geopolitics and even more fundamentally the end of the Western led geopolitics. Again, Sachs is a left-wing globalist. He was a big advocate for the idea that America should give up power to China over global warming. Well, Tucker Carlson consistently repeats Sachs' messaging. And he did so over the weekend while interviewing a man he called a prophet. Remember, Tucker's other prophets include holy men like Alex Jones. He's a professor named Zheng Shen. A Chinese propagandist. I mean, literally a Chinese propagandist. He teaches high school and in Beijing. And he's titled the Harvard researcher, although I can't really identify any of his Harvard research at this point. Maybe it's there. I don't know. Anyway, here is Tucker speaking with this clown and agreeing that America should give up its hegemonic standing in the world. What I would do is basically sit down everyone, including Russia, China, Iran and say it's time for a new world order where we are partners in this relationship. Before America was a hegemon, before the US father was a world-reserved currency. But now what we want to do is open a dialogue where everyone is respected. Where America is not only the bully, but a winning partner in creating a new, I can order that benefits everyone and not just a few. I think that's the wisest possible advice and probably the only path that preserves civilization. And but they're the one country standing in the way of that is Israel. So Israel is standing. The tiny country in the Middle East is standing. Now the United States is real because Israel of course is the one that's blackmailing America into not giving up its global power. And you should recognize that what he is talking about there, Tucker with Zhang. What he is talking about right there is what you might call a new world order. You might call it that literally a partnership between the United States, China and Russia to restructure global economics to quote unquote not benefit a few. That's what that is. If you don't find that alarming, it's because you are full-scale ignoring what Tucker Carlson is saying and what Zhang is saying right there. Again, Zhang is a Chinese Communist Party propagandist. We should talk about Zhang for just a moment because to understand why the America lasters seem to have such unique power in the online space, we have to understand that the America last philosophy is rooted in a deep conspiracism about the United States. See, here's the thing. To the untrained eye, the eye of an army American who grew up in America, who loves America, who is born in America. A world with more American power is a better world, a freer world, a more prosperous world. That untrained eye, when I say untrained, I mean non-conspiratory life, might look at the increase of power of America since World War II and see overall unprecedented, unprecedented economic prosperity, the defeat of the Nazi empire and the Soviet Union, the spread of democratic values, the spread of economic freedom. The lasters though see something else and again they are both left and right. On the left they see a worse world since World War II, a world of evil American capitalism destroying local communities of quote unquote racist military might, overwhelming people of color everywhere. The story of the world since World War II in the left wing America last vision is a world of unending tragedy, the failure of the Marxist dream of the Soviet Union, the collapse of a feral revision to the reality of free markets, the emptying out of left wing thought in favor of neoliberalism. While on the right the America lasters see a worse world since World War II as well, a world of evil American capitalism emptying out the communitarian world of real America, a world of American imperialism spreading vial secularism abroad, a world of false meritocracy providing cover for an emptying out of so-called heritage Americanism, decided by bloodline rather than American ideals, those are ideals that they consider a sham and a rose. This would be why America lasters are fully in favor of the destruction of American power, abroad. But to destroy American power, first you have to change American minds, to do that, you have to explain that a world of increased American power is action.
Terrible, darker, more evil, and to make that claim, you have to believe a bunch of conspiracies. You have to believe that American meritocracy is actually a lie. That the Declaration of Independence is a lie, that in reality America is run by a secret coterie of evil doers who manipulate systems and events for their own specific insular benefit. So, you know that profit Tucker was talking to Zheng. Here he was explaining his views on America in a recent interview with fellow America last hosts over at a podcast called Breaking Points. If you look at the Epstein files, it's clear that we are run by secret societies. It's clear that the world is run by these individuals who have a lot of power. We don't know who they are, but they control the military. They control the National Security Operators. And these people, they're different names for these people. You can call them Illuminati. And Illuminati are composed of three major groups. You have the Jesuits who control the Vatican. You have the Subtained Frankus, which control the modern Israel today. You have the Freemasons, which control the National Security Operators of the United States. And they believe that Israel, this one middle east, is key to the end times in creating heaven on earth. So, it's almost like a script that they're following even though it doesn't make any duplical set. Under why Tucker likes this guy? That is why Tucker likes the Chinese Communist propaganda. Now again, Sean believes that this big conspiracy ends with wait for a wait for a wait for a wait for a wait for a wait for a wait for a wait for a wait for a wait for a wait for a wait for a wait. I know you won't believe it. Pax Judeaica, in which secret societies based in Jerusalem run the world again, he's speaking, basically on behalf of the Chinese Communist government, which is right now controlling a billion people and trying also to grab hold of Taiwan and threaten American interests, not only in the region, but across the world. Here is Sean explaining the Pax Judeaica. This is a theory. All right? So let's assume they knew each other. What they will do together is create a new organization called the Illuminati. And this organization is what controls the world. Even if he spells the wrong. Now, there is a legend that Adam was hot when he created, after he created the Illuminati, he encouraged his followers to infiltrate another organization called the Freemasons. He's writing a chat word, means smart ass. The Illuminati was able to penetrate the Freemasons, so now you have the giants of the Jews, the Jews, the Separatine Frankus, the Catholics, and the Freemasons. So this is the Alliance of Secret Societies. This is Tucker Carlson's Prophet over here. Zhang's conspiracy is not unique in this day and age. The America Last Movement relies on unchecked conspiracy theorizing, conspiracies and run him up. And thank goodness for them, that conspiracy is not just on the rise. It's on the exponential rise. Of course, it's not just Candace Owens and her broken brains spewing this garbage. It's now Joe Rogan, the biggest podcaster on the planet, who increasingly spends his days retelling the same sorts of nonsense directly. In his last podcast, for example, he is now spreading the theory that he be Nitsina who is dead and AIBB is wandering here. Come on, Joe. You're too smart for this. Don't do this. This is so. He's got. Come on, he can't be dead. He might be dead. His brothers. So that's like, look at this. Yeah. Like, the coffee. Look how turned it is. It's a bunch of things. Come on, man. It doesn't spill at all. It just wiggles to the edge. And then they've also shown that like, on the register and then some of the signs, the writings not real. It's very, very weird. Well, all right, Pete. Well, drink one further for Yahoo. We hasn't been seen publicly in over a week. So, he might be gone. That. By the way, you know what that ends for Joe Rogan in the same podcast and ends with Joe Rogan. Wait for it going after Erica Kirk because if you're in for a penny or in for a pound, here was Joe Rogan truly doing something terrible over the weekend. I've heard Erica Kirk's got a dick over that one. Whoa, she seems thrilled right now. She's an odd duck. She's a cook for sure. Have you ever seen the compilation of her making crazy eyes? No. She's the beauty of her making demon eyes and every time she makes the eyes, the music. It's so ridiculous. She's possessed. Well, she just gets intense. Disgusting, really, really violent disgusting. Well, unsurprisingly, Joe now seems to find the views of the America Lasters convincing. It turns out, if you believe enough nonsensical theories about the evil societies that secretly were on America, you end up wanting America because it's run by a secret evil society to reduce its global influence. Now this phenomenon is present on the right in the form of that grievance party, but it's mainstream on the left where people like Hassan Piker are welcomed into the highest circles of democratic politics. Hassan Piker, who again holds hands with people like Tucker Carlson when it comes to foreign policy, spent his weekend when he wasn't blowviating about the evils of America attempting to defenestrate the mullers, giving essential massages to the Cuban communist government while wearing a kid you not, $1,500 designer Cartier glasses. The average annual salary in Cuba is currently $156. So he's doing great. He was in Cuba with the morons over at Code Pink, again, another foreign front group, doing some true poverty tourism. They held a big concert, Code Pink, over in Havana, with kneecap, and apparently, by the way, the power that was utilized for this concert did not go to local hospitals. Hassan Piker is also staying at a five star hotel in Cuba, which he says is his moral duty. He must. He must stay at a five star hotel. You see that is what good leftism requires. The government has very limited resources and the American government makes it illegal for Americans to stay wherever they want when they're in Cuba. They have to stay in what they've declared as five star hotels. Oh, is that, is that how it works? Is that how it works? You schmuck. I mean, by, the, the cosplaying communism while staying at a five star hotel, wearing $1,500 glasses, this schmuck. What a ridiculous figure he is. By the way, it's not even true. Michael Moles actually went to Cuba a couple of years ago and he actually used an Airbnb, so it's not true. And sure, the people don't have electricity in Cuba, but you see that is just the romance of non-capitalism. That's just how they wanted is the not having of the electricity. I mean, there's like rolling blackouts that take place throughout the day, every day, all around the country, right? 11 million people. But today is a beautiful day out here. It's like 75 degrees, sunny. People are partying. People are partying the streets. Wow. Wow. What a beautiful life. Well, just to prove the point that third worldism is a philosophy of envy and evil, these moral deluxe again, spent their time on the impoverished island complaining about Israel during a kneecap concert. So they're there with a government that represses its own people, keeps them in abject poverty. Again, $156 in salary a year. But they're there to chance about freeing Palestine with kneecap. Third worldism, man, it's a thing. Well, it's a no-shock that all these figures. On all sides of the American last movement are radically anti-Israel because Israel actually is a powerful ally acting in concert with the United States. Israel has spent decades building its military power, sharing intelligence and tech with the US, destroying incipient threats to the West from the Iraqi nuclear reactor back in the 80s to the Syrian nuclear reactor in the mid-2000s to Iranian proxies and now the Iranian government. And all these people despise Israel for it. Hassan Piker, Tucker Carlson, and propaganda for the Chinese government all on precisely the same page. How little must you think of America to believe that those governments, China and Russia ought to have more influence in the world and that this would somehow be better for the world and America? American hegemony is the best thing for the world. It is we who keep the trade routes open ensuring freedom of the seas and the trade that provides the lifeblood of the global economy. It is we who stand down the world's most evil regimes achieving the world's most dangerous weapons. It is we who support the rise of allies who share our values. It is we who prevent the spread of perverse, cancerous power emanating from imperialist tyrants of communist and fascist persuasion. The alternative world, one the America lasters want, is dominated by the same people who ran the one child program and who currently throw dissidents in concentration camps to linger and die like Jimmy Lai. A world run by people who currently chuck their political opponents from the roofs of buildings or poison them with nuclear materials as the Russians have done while allying with regimes that murder people who oppose radical Islam and supporting radical Islamic terror all over the world. No American should be indifferent to the rise of our enemies globally. Meanwhile, closer to home, the democratic shutdown of the Department of Homeland Security continues to wreak havoc with our travel system. There is some footage of two to three hour lines at the Lanta airport over the weekend. Again, this is not the actual, this is not like lines to get on the planes. These are lines to get too security. Look at those lines, they're just astonishing lines. And again, this is because Democrats just won't fund the Department of Homeland
security craziness. Well, Elon Musk actually offered to pay TSA salary. He said, I'd like to offer to pay the salaries of TSA personnel during this funding impasse that is negatively affecting the lives of so many Americans that airports throughout the country. Democrats, however, are perfectly happy with keeping people miserable in their travel lives. Schumer's new gambit is he's only going to threaten to fully fund TSA, but not the rest of ice, not DHS. He says Republican senators will be forced on the record. They can either vote to fund TSA for good or be fully responsible for its continued shutdown. So basically, he now wants to blackmail the American people by saying he will not fund TSA unless he's able to defund ice. So the White House has responded by saying, well, why don't we just go get ice agents to do TSA's job? I know there are a lot of people freaking out about this. I'm just going to point out, I mean, listen, we've all been through TSA a thousand times at this point. Do you really think that ice agents are incapable of doing TSA's job? That's stellar, stellar job training over at TSA. That is something that ice agents just cannot handle. Here is Tom Homan over the weekend. How much of a plan doesn't mean to garden exit to make sure no one comes through that exit? And we're talking about security options and these officers are well trained in security and they're well trained in identification. And like we're going to do what we can to help TSA move those people to the line. Now the real question here is why Democrats continue to shut down the DHS. What are they talking about? What happened to many Apple? Is over? What are they trying to achieve? As Tom Homan points out, Democrats would love policy change, but this is not actually a policy issue. Just fund DHS man. I truly believe this isn't really a policy issue. I mean, we have the same policies in place. We had during Obama and Biden and Clinton and Bush one and Bush two. So the policy is really hasn't changed. It's the execution of those policies. That we're talking about. And look, we have a good conversations, but you know, more conversations need to be had because we certainly can't surrender. Oasis authorities and they're Congressional mandated jobs. So we're having no discussions. It's really about policy execution more than policy. Yeah. I mean, again, he's right about that again. We want our TSA agents back at work. It is the Democrats who are stopping this from happening. And meanwhile, there was a bad headline for the Trump administration over the weekend. President Trump is busily winning one of the great victories in American history, I believe in Iran. It's reshaping the world map. That's why what he was doing over the weekend slamming Robert Mueller after Mueller's death is wrong and morally foolish and also wildly counterproductive. So Robert Mueller, of course, was the man who's in charge of the Mueller report that was the Russia gate investigation that was a complete dud and a waste of time. Trump put out a statement on truth. Social quote, Robert Mueller just died. Good. I'm glad he's dead. He can no longer hurt innocent people that yet. No, I'm going to go no on that dog. That's a two thumbs down from me. Do not like a bad thing to say pretty obviously. Okay. One final note. There was another good move from the White House over the weekend. The White House installed a new statue of Christopher Columbus using pieces of a monument destroyed by rioters in Baltimore in the BLM fever of 2020. Remember this in Baltimore. They knocked over a big statue of Columbus and shattered it and then they dumped it into the Baltimore inner harbor. So the Trump administration retrieved some of the pieces and had the new statute commission and built and it is installed outside the Eisenhower executive building is what it looks like. Now, you remember that when the statue was torn down in 2020, the Baltimore then mayor, a guy named Jack Young said the monument quote may represent different things to different people. He said, we understand the dynamics that are playing out in Baltimore are part of a national narrative. Well, that national narrative was stupid. I'm glad that national narrative is over Christopher Columbus is in fact a hero of a Western civilization. And it is a good thing that Western civilization came to the Americas. Are you folks? The show continues for our members right now. So as you have been seeing, we are answering your questions live in the show. But only if you're a member and we answer way more of your questions after we get your part of our club, your part of our friendship circle. We make like bracelets for each other and everything. If you're not a member, become a member, use coach Shapiro check out to try two months free on all annual plans. Click the link in the description and join us.
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Key Points:
The host criticizes individuals labeled as "America lasters" who allegedly downplay threats from Iran, Russia, and China while opposing U.S. global leadership.
Iran's recent missile tests, including an intermediate-range ballistic missile targeting Diego Garcia, are presented as evidence contradicting claims that Iran poses no long-range threat.
The Iranian regime is portrayed as desperate and destabilized, engaging in aggressive actions like targeting civilian areas and holy sites, while internal power struggles and economic pressures weaken it.
U.S. officials, including President Trump, are highlighted as taking a强硬 stance against Iran, with threats to target Iranian infrastructure if the Strait of Hormuz remains threatened.
European allies are criticized for insufficient action, while regional partners like the UAE express resolve against Iranian aggression.
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The transcription from *The Ben Shapiro Show* argues against critics termed "America lasters," who are accused of minimizing threats from adversarial regimes like Iran. It asserts that recent Iranian missile tests, including an intermediate-range ballistic missile launched toward Diego Garcia (approximately 4,000 miles away), disprove claims that Iran's capabilities are limited to the Middle East. The host contends that Iran's actions—such as targeting civilian areas in Israel and holy sites in Jerusalem—reflect a regime in desperation, facing internal chaos and economic strain.
S. responses, including President Trump's threats to strike Iranian power plants if the Strait of Hormuz is not secured, are framed as necessary measures to counter Iranian aggression. European allies are described as passive, while regional partners like the UAE emphasize long-term security solutions.
S. military actions aim to neutralize this threat.
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An 'America laster' is described as someone who lies about America and seeks to reduce its global role, often defending adversaries like Iran, Russia, and China while criticizing U.S. allies.
Iran claimed its missiles had a limited range of 2,000 kilometers, but U.S. officials reported it launched intermediate-range missiles at Diego Garcia, about 4,000 miles away, indicating a longer reach that threatens Europe.
Iran's firing of long-range missiles and attacks on civilian areas, including Jerusalem and Dimona, are portrayed as reckless moves by a regime in trouble, trying to provoke conflict as a last resort.
The Strait of Hormuz is a critical oil chokepoint; Iran's control over it allows it to influence oil prices and threaten shipping, making it a key point of leverage in conflicts with the West.
It suggests Europe has done little in response, with NATO offering mainly rhetorical support, while regional allies like the UAE are calling for more decisive action against Iranian aggression.
CIA Director John Ratcliffe indicated Iran could develop an ICBM within months, while DNI Tulsi Gabbard previously downplayed such threats, highlighting discrepancies in U.S. intelligence assessments.
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