Ep 21 - Coffee Conversation with a Dentist Dr. Kriti

Hello everybody and welcome to a brand new episode of Coffee Protocol Podcast. This is the season 2. I've got some interesting episodes lined up for you. Thank you very much for all the love and support of season 1 and really overwhelmed with the kind of response that you all have given. This is the second season starting now and I'm looking forward to some great episodes and great content to bring to you. We are going to start with the first one today, which is with Dentist. Now we may ask what is there which is common between coffee and dentist. Well, lot more than we can think of. So without further ado, I think we should get to the episode. All the energy and force that we could, but it did not come out and when it did only half of the food came out. I'm feeling over shit, I don't want to do it because it's bugging that. I thought oh yeah and people like. Thank you very much Dr. Critti to join us today in this episode of Coffee Protocol. It's called Podcast. If you had to introduce yourself, how would you do that? So myself, Dr. Critti Sharma and I'm a conservative dentist and I enter all this. So this is my introduction. And what does that mean? I'm a specialist of root canal. I do root canal. Okay. Nice. I mean. Nice here. It's painful thing to have, but it's not painful. People think it's a lot more painful, but it's not painful if it's not painful. No. I mean the root canal is like when you have it, it's painful, right? No, because you are anesthetized in the area. So that is when you are working on it like for example, but when you're getting painful. So that is a thing, if people are so much aware, if they started taking their oral health to very serious, so these are the problems he may not be. But if you're regularly going to a dentist, you're visiting like in every six months. So at least you will be knowing what problems are going on, like what all things are happening. So if, if you're at an initial stage, if he's feeling scared, or cavity, he's not developing the area. So then it will not go in the root canal, right? That's the only thing I had. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't learn it the hard way. Yeah. I didn't know what it was. It was just a very painful phase, and I was on my motorcycle travel. So I was like traveling from one place to another and I was like, so painful, so painful. I ended up, I remember I ended up in my sore and I was like, so painful. I went to a dentist and he said that you have cavity and we said the easier thing is to just take it out and it was not a very pleasant experience, I would say, because he tried all the energy and force that he could, but it did not come out. And when it did, only half of the tooth came out and then he had to go again and it was, yeah, not a very pleasant sight to look at, like from my point of view. But yeah, that's the image I have from my experience of getting the tooth out. Oh. So you have actually removed it, like, you have not saved the tooth. No. Okay. I think it was, it was my, the last third molar. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. You said it's better to just take it out than do anything else. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. So, do you like coffee? I like when somebody prepares and gives me, but I am very lazy to, if I could have been myself thinking sometimes, oh, but not me here, but oh, if somebody is giving me an enjoy. But do you like, like, do you actually go to a cafe by yourself to have a cup of coffee or is that something that I do go? Okay. Nice. So you were practicing in Delhi before? Yes. I was practicing in Delhi, like I practiced there for almost two years. Okay. And then coming, coming to the main part of it, what kind of patients do you normally get? Like, is it for cavities, is it for cleaning or what is it? So, basically, I guess 80% of patients, they come, when they have problems, frankly speaking, there's a lot of problems, so at that stage, when we check, so, there is a lot of calculus and plaque as in, like, a discoloration of the teeth. Okay. And then we ask people that, okay, what can you do, you know, it's tobacco or coffee tea, so there are a lot of the food that's actually called as discoloration. So, but there are patients, I mean, you know, they do come for the stains thing. Okay. So, these kind of patients, but I feel, in India, they have a little awareness, you know, they do not take very seriously heart, teeth, hands, a lot of teeth, you know, why to waste money on that, so in that way. So when you say discoloration, yellow discoloration or brown discoloration, what you actually mean is like, there is a shade of yellow or shade of brown on the teeth. Yeah, I mean, it is a extrinsic stain, I mean, you know, your little, your teeth will appear a little yellow hue type sort of stuff. And if it's more, so it is brown, like, in the valley surface, it's not out of surface surface on the padlet, so because this is also because we consume coffee or tea, so it has an ingredient called tanning, okay, which is a type of polyphenol, so this makes a color compound. And that leaves to the yellow discoloration. Okay. So this is a little bit of, you know, a porish, okay, so this color compound goes and stick onto that, okay, so that's why it gives a yellow hue. So it is normally a yellow hue and then it goes to brown, but not necessary, yeah. Not necessary also, but different food items have a different, you know, color stains, like if somebody is having consuming some sort of medicines, like iron medicines, so basically it gives you a very brownish tea, coffee and tea, yes, that means coffee and tea usually have a yellow sort of, okay. What is the food or beverage that gives the maximum stain? Red wine stains is the beverages like this coffee, tea, red wine, so these sort of give me maximum. Anything that has a lot of patience? Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. Actually, the food item which are more of color, like black coffee has a more color, the tea color, so just maybe it's other color, it gives you a maximum discoloration. Fair enough. Now when we talk about coffee and when we talk about tea stains, does it make a difference whether you're having, whether you're having black tea or milk tea or black coffee or milk coffee? Is there any difference with that? It is not actually different because it is like hem, jab osme, shugri stuff or milk add there, so ye ho tay ki oke, it sticks more, milk gets off sugar, right, to discoloration there's a kui farakne paata, but ha, process 3 fastos at the if we add milk and sugar. Okay, so for example, if somebody is having let's say black coffee for 2 years continuously and somebody is having coffee with milk and sugar for 2 years continuously, the person having it with sugar and milk would relatively have more stains? Not more stains, a sort of similar stains, sabar to uske saat problem ye ho sa ki heki might develop cavity, if you're not cleaning it properly because of the sugar contains everything, so might to the gap, okay, and so when we when we have coffee stain, like does it does it really make a lot of difference with a coffee cup stain jada ta ye tea cup stain jada ta ye, or is it similar sort of similar only, it is not like that, but sort of similar, it means if you will see or difference make out kana, you know, difficult to do that, but depends if you're having 2 cups of coffee already in a day, and if you're having 8 cups of coffee in a day or tea, so there will be relatively difference about whether 8 cups of coffee will stain, it will be much higher, there will be 2 cups, because contact johu ra hai, so obviously it will be more, okay, make sense, now like for somebody who is probably let's say drinking a lot of coffee, okay, I will just say stick to coffee, for example, if somebody is regularly drinking coffee, is there a way or a procedure or some kind of a way where you can try and reduce the effect of discoloration? Yes, so actually when patient comes, so we tell that like I know a coffee is actually essential part in the morning, it's like energy booster, so everybody needs their coffee, so we tell patient that instead of having in a small sip, you can have a larger sip, like you know, you can have in one shot instead of having it like around, say you're sitting for 1 hour and having a small sip and you're having coffee, so instead of small sip, you can have in the larger sip so that the contact is a little less, okay, then after having coffee, you can have a full glass of water and just drink the water and rinse nicely thoroughly, so that jubi coffee stick hoga, tea surface, at least with little rinse off, right, if somebody likes to have iced coffee, so you can use straw instead of having it directly, so that straw say directly, it touches on the palate, not on the food surface, it directly goes inside, so that you can do, then you can have a lot of veggies, raw vegetables, carrot and everything, so what it does is act as a scrub, like when you chew it, so if I was okay, right, it will scrub your tea and the fruit like strawberries and lemon, so it helps actually, jubi stains here, it helps, these are the little bit of things you can, you can brush your tea actually after having coffee, after having coffee, you have to read for half an hour, because the coffee is acidic, right, so if you immediately brush, so the one that is in our enamels, right, that one weakens, because of the acids, so it is always recommended that you have to wait for 30 minutes and after 30 minutes, you can have, you know, you can brush your tea, wow, I did not know that, but is it something that can be done for any acidic food or beverage item people, if you have to wait for half an hour and then brush your tea to something like that, yes, actually it is for the mouthwash also, like, you know, you should never do a mouthwash also like immediately after brushing, so really, yes, because what we brush, like toothpaste, it has fluoride, right, so it is a fluoride layer, when we do a brushing and all that, so immediately if we use mouthwash, then that layer goes off, so that is the thing, we should always wait like for 30 minutes or like, you know, and then after that, you can have a breakfast, sorry, you can have mouthwash, so ideally if I put it out in the easiest way possible, if you have a cup of coffee and you wait for half an hour, oh no, you just have a cup of coffee and immediately probably you can have a glass of water with probably some lemon in, and that is it. If you want to really brush, you can just wait for half an hour and then probably brush if you really want to, but if you just drink a cup of coffee and then probably have a glass of water with a little bit of lemon juice, I think that is a easier or a better way to take care of your tea. No, I will feel like if you will have with plain water because lemon is again a little bit of acidic, okay, so that will create a little problem, so better to have a plain glass of water. The have a cup of coffee, then have a glass of water, and that is like an easier solution, and then you can have a lemonade or whatever you want. Interestingly, that actually helps two different things because coffee and tea in general also makes you dehydrate it, so you have a cup of coffee and then you just have a glass of water, it will help you in the hydration part of it and also help you with probably getting lesser chances of getting your tea stained. That is so interesting and so simple, okay, so now while you are practicing in Delhi, did you get a lot of people who would come to you for coffee stains? Yes, mostly if I'll say the ratio in Indian and foreigners, if I'll say, so the foreigners people are more in number, for them they used to come and they used to like, okay fine, I want to get my people clean, professionally cleaning, so they used to come, they are kind of the discoloration and the coffee stains and they actually know, this is the coffee stains. And there is this thing that exists? Yes, yes, yes, so they actually come for that and they demand for it like straight away, but they know what they want, it is a coffee stain and I want cleaning to be done. But Indians, yeah, they do come but not many, because I guess half of them they don't know. Okay. It's okay. It's a good thing. But yeah, people who are aware, Joe coffee, coffee, you know, and they must be reading about it. So they know, okay fine, there's some sort of stain which is happening and they actually see while brushing, actually you see your teeth like in the mirror and everything and you can make a difference, you owe something is, you know, my teeth are getting little yellowish or they're not feeling well, so they do come, then they stay here, okay fine, yellow discoloration is happening and I want to get it clean. So then we give them the options, okay, these are the options, okay fine, there is a brighter shade, so now that we spoke about the stain, but does drinking a lot of coffee or tea as well, apart from stain, does it cause problems with bad breath as well? Yes, coffee or tea, so what happens that bacteria is coffee holds up there, so what happens like, if you're not having water or something like cup of coffee period, then bacteria is too old cavity, they grow up there, right? So tongue surface is very coffee, so yeah it causes thelitosus, that is bad breath. What is it called? So helitosus. Helitosus? Yes, which is a lot of things learned today, okay. So that is the thing, so that's why dehydration is what I'm talking about, right? It is also okay fine if you're not drinking water, your mouth will be dry and sub-bred because that's why you should keep drinking water also, but after coffee and tea, like, you know, this is the problem of the bad breath. Okay, and so imagine somebody who's been drinking coffee for a very long time and that person does not know he's staying is being caused because of drinking coffee at T. It is not just the color of the teeth that is changing. It is also the breath that is changing as well because it is also going bad. And obviously it is how I understand it's not a one day I think if you do it for one day and it's gone, I think it is something that will take time once you put it in your habit and then it will show its effect. Very, very interesting. So ideally if there is somebody who is drinking one or two cups of coffee a day, it does not know he you have to drink water or brush after half an hour or whatever it is, but a normal person drinking one to two cups or probably three cups of coffee, how often does one should go to a dentist to get it checked or to probably get cleaned? Every six months like you know in one like in a year or twice you have to go in every six months. So just go for a regular checkup. It's not like that he who is drinking coffee only that person has to go it's a normal routine procedure that is okay fine and every six months you should go to a dentist, get your parcel checked. So whatever the problem, it will be beneficial for you also. You will be knowing you okay fine, there is no problem. So instead of getting a root canal which is finally solved here, so that's fine. If if you are professionally cleaning, you will be able to do it every six months. So if no discoloration is not there, for example, if if there is a person who is not cleaning, he is only brushing fine brushing, you have to go twice a day, but you cannot clean with the brush, you require some time professionally cleaning right. So if a person is going, just think of he is not doing it. And if a person is going, every six months or in a year, you are cleaning, so obviously there will be a difference. Correct correct correct. So that is also a thing. You have every six months me because the dentist can visit you and if something is there if discoloration is there, you can get yourself ready and you know check and do a professionally cleaning. If you have a lot of things to do with you know, if you have a lot of things to do with you, if you have a lot of things to do with you, if you have a lot of things to do with you, at the same time dentist, I am in clinic, so the doctor will do a whitening treatment on you. If you are going to be in home, there is a custom tray. It will be a tray. So, in that you can just add a gel of hydrogen peroxide, which will be given by your dentist. So, you can just use that tray or you can just wear them like for half hour, sorry, one hour or two hours in that day. So, you have to repeat that. But in office, the results will get very quick. So, when you stay in office whitening treatment, what exactly is happening? It is not cleaning, it is it is not cleaning, it is in our normal simple word, I will say beach thing. Okay, okay, right. So, in that, we use a hydrogen peroxide concentration. So, we apply on the teeth and we pass out some lights. So, that would say, it changes the colour from inside, inside the teeth. So, in office, may be the hydrogen peroxide concentration, so we use it a little more, because obviously we know how to use it. But when we give on the up in the home treatment area, so, we don't keep it more, like the percentage of the hydrogen peroxide will be less concentrated. So, that at least, we harm not you and you can use it. But yeah, effect also comes out, but little slow. Okay, fair enough, fair enough. Okay, I have a couple of interesting questions. A, so, do dentists go to other dentists to get that teeth clean? Oh, yes. Yeah, like, I mean, it's like when I was working in the, so there were a lot of the leaks, which were working with me. So, yeah, we used to do a cleaning for each other, because we know we have to do cleaning. So, okay. Now, the second question, okay, second and third is sort of related. I mean, when you're working as a dentist, okay. Do you judge that this is too smelly or tea, or too smelly or mouth, or this is so unclean? Do you have that feeling? This is like really pathetic. Do you ever get that kind of feeling? Yes. Yes, I mean, it's a human nature. You cannot stop that. Many patients who come and who are very, you know, user of like tobacco or beating nuts, which is a lot. So, that you cannot make out the teeth color. It will be full brown, full brown. Right. So, when you see that sort of oral hygiene, you actually tends to, you know, think the oarshift, like, what does this and when you have a clean, you actually get that feeling. I don't want to do it because bug in that. So, that's all I'm feeling you get. No, okay. That is interesting. Okay. I'll come back to that, but the other question is, like, for example, I also feel like I remember the first time I ever went to a dentist. I was like, I was sort of a little scared and borderline embarrassed to go to a dentist and I don't know how my breath is and I don't know how that dentist is going to judge me. I think I'm not thinking. I'm sure there are people who would be having this art process in their head. And that is also the reason a lot of people would not be willing to go to a dentist. Yes. How do you, I'm like, should we be thinking that much or is it normal? No, you should not think that much because obviously, you know, humbush, but we do brushing and we are not habitual, you know, tobacco chewer or something. So, it is not like that. And point is key. If we're not constantly here, so, you are embarrassed how my breath will be or how my people will be. So, say, nobody judges, but okay, fine. We became dentists. We are here to treat. It's not like we are judging and we're like, no, no, no. You smell, you know, your breath smells very bad. So, we're not going to treat you. Oh, you know, it's not like that. It's like, okay, but there is little awareness or, you know, care for the oral hygiene. So, if a thing is going to happen, you don't have to get scared. And, you know, we are not scary people like, you know. But I mean, what I also felt later on, once I started going to a dentist is that, you know, I mean, if you are already feeling a little embarrassed that your teeth are probably not in the best of the shape. It's not the best cleaned or the breath is a little off. I think it is better to go to a dentist and to show that, oh, this is not the best, but because that is the person who's going to fix it for you, right? So, that it's going to be better for the rest of the world. I think that is when I was starting to feel like I'm going to okay to go to a dentist and like, oh, you know, have to get this thing sorted so that, you know, I feel more confident and I feel better because I think definitely it boots a lot of confidence in people. You can smile more. You can be more okay to show your teeth while you're smiling or while you're talking or going close to somebody because, for example, if you really have trouble with bad breath, you don't want to go to your girlfriend and like, it's like really bad. But yeah, I mean, that is something that I think people should start thinking that it's not a bad bad thing to go because that's that's the place you're going to go and get it fixed, right? Exactly. And it's like, okay, we are not allergic to this thing, okay? You know, regular visits, I had to get out. If you start doing that, so I guess I don't think so anybody will get embarrassed or because once you'll go there, obviously, the dentist will explain you, okay, fine, this will be the reason and how you have to brush there's a correct brushing technique he'll show you or she will show you and how to take care of your oral hygiene. So obviously, there are a lot of things which you will get to know and it will be a benefit, you know, for you. - Okay, this is the thing which I was lacking when I was not going and after going, okay fine, this is the improvement which I can do and I can take care of my oral hygiene. - Correct, nice. I hope people will now, whoever is listening, I hope they feel a little okay to go to a dentist, definitely drinking coffee for sure. But I'll say, please don't get scared. Go to a dentist, at least go once, get yourself checked. - Yeah, you might never know, you might be saving yourself from something bigger. You know, it's like, yeah. - Exactly. - Now, now since you mentioned brushing, I quickly want to touch on that topic as well before we get to the conclusion. I know that a lot of people, a lot of dentists recommend you should brush at least twice a day once in morning, once in evening. And I've even heard some dentists say that, you know, brushing in the night is more important than brushing in the morning. I don't know how much truth is there in that part of it. Is there any truth in that? - Yes, yes. - Why because you're like ideal for the rest of the night, is it because of that? - Yeah, because see bacteria grows, right? So whatever you're eating throughout your day, right? If you'll clean it properly, like at the night. So morning, you will feel fresh. And now actually the new studies which have come. So they say, if you're brushing at night, so don't brush in the morning. First, have your breakfast, right? You have your breakfast and after that, you brush at least. - Matt, I do that, okay. Normally when I'm on home, I actually have my breakfast, my coffee, and then I go to brush because then I'm like taking care of the food and then I'm brushing and then it's gonna. I thought, oh, yeah. And people, like I remember initially, my mom used to be like, what is wrong with you? Why don't you brush your teeth before having your food or your tea or a lot of the people listening to the podcast, I'm probably going to judge me, but see, that's, I found there's some kind of a logic there. I read it somewhere and I found there's some kind of a logic there. Provided if you brush at the night. - Yes, yes. You're brushing at the night and one more thing you can do is like the water flots off. So it's a device, small device with water, so with the water jet. So with the pressure, it cleans. With the brush, what happens? You cannot clean each and every surface of your teeth, right? So in between the teeth, right? There's two teeth and in between that surface, you cannot clean with the brush. So water flots are what it does. It's, you know, with the spray and the flow is so strong that whatever the food is stuck in the gums and everything, it cleans. So you can use that. So you should use water flots at least, you know, before sleeping. So if you are doing that, obviously your gums will be healthy, your teeth will be healthy. - Okay. - So that is the thing I feel every one should practice. - So if somebody does not have a water flusher. - Just. - Flosses, you can just like, gargle it and do that for now. - Gargle, yeah, but in gargle, yeah. - Just put it in your mouth, probably rinse it probably and then spit it out with that do. - Not much of help, it do helps. It's not like that, but water flots, it has a, you know, pressure. So if you're gargling, obviously the pressure will be not there, but in the water flots, it's not like that you, okay, you know, it is not very expensive device. It's, I guess it will cost you around of 1500 or 2000 bucks. - Okay. - So it's like, okay, fine if you're not having water flots, but have just have a do brushing at least every night and sleep, without brushing, though, a problem with that. But have like, you know, a little bit off, things if you'll do might it helps. - So related to that, just continue, I think. Is there any, any phenomenon which kind of proves that excessive brushing is also not good? Like there are people who brush for six times. - Yes, what happens like excessive brushing, though, I guess the pressure which you apply is, you don't have to be very excessive pressure, no, you apply it and I just have to brush very softly, like with the medium bristles, not very hard bristles. Use medium bristle brush and just go, circular motion, you have to keep your brush a little 45 degree on your teeth and just slowly keep in a circular motion. - Yeah. - And just but not very aggressive. You don't have to because what happens, it ablates your teeth. - Correct. - So the layer goes off and then, it's like, you're fine, after some time, you'll feel a little of sensitivity problem or something. - Okay. - So that is the thing, okay, it's a lot, you have to stop dancing, it's a lot, you know, much aggressively, you know. - Correct. - So I, I like, for example, I mean, I don't know how it goes, but I normally prefer to buy medium or soft bristles to brush and I know a lot of people do not even know that they're different kinds of bristles. I just buy randomly, whatever is available, they just buy. - And I think, I think something with a hard bristle is a little tough on your teeth and that is the reason I started using medium or soft bristles. - Okay. - Makes sense. - Good. Is there anything else you would like to share about, like in general, about oral health, what people can do, people can not do before we close this off? - So I feel the, the stutth discoloration problem is very common and it can happen to anyone for the variety of reasons. It's not like they do, okay fine. I am at interest or I'm going to be a problem and you're not at interest and I'm going to share your problem. It's not like that. Or do you think it's a little bit of precautions you have to take like the, okay fine. If you're having food also, the way you would say, yeah, after having food, I'm going to go and go and go and go and go. So obviously, if you're having food, I'm going to go and go and go and go and go and go and go. Then it's your mouth. So the active joby food, have a stick, now I'm going to be like, if you're having chocolates or some sticky sort of things, just brush your teeth after that. It is obviously if I was to take a care of the problem, create hogey. So I feel small, small things are there if you'll follow in your daily routine. So it will be, you know, you will be like, okay, then heartache. I'm not going to skip my shirt. I'm not even asking about it. It will be in a year once. (laughs) So no, if I've got no problem there, see if there is no problem. Obviously, there are so many patients who doesn't have any problem or doesn't even have steam. So it doesn't require any sort of cleaning. So we just ask them to go back and comes once in a year. You don't have to come in every six months, okay, the people who have a lot of flour, accumulation, a lot of steam. Then obviously, just come better to a cleaning. And there is also such kind of things that people do come in when we say, "Okay, I'm cleaning Kervanya." So they say, "Okay, we're not cleaning Kervanya because our people get weak." You know, they'll take care of us. But actually, it's not. If you will not do a cleaning, then that's what I'm going to say. Because obviously, the food will, keeps accumulating gums. So obviously, what will happen? It eventually becomes weak. And the gums will recite. Once gums get, you know, started reciting. Obviously, it will get weak. So it's not like that. It's a weak weak. It's like, "If you want to clean it up, you need to clean it." And it will make it, yeah. One more, at least the last question. A lot of people who drink a lot of coffee or tea, and on top of it, if there is somebody who is also into a lot of cigarettes smoking, does cigarettes smoking act to staining or any other kind of oral health problem ratios? - Yes. There is even smoking, please, you know, for staining, there's a lot of smokers. Have a lot of stains. And, a lot of the stains come out quickly. That means, you know, it's a very important cleaning. And plus, it may look to the other problems also. Like, obviously, if you're smoking gums, your, you know, those, like a healthy version of the net because a lot of smoking there are occurrences. The, a lot of things, then it may lead to some lesion or cancer sort of stuff. So there are a lot of things which you should avoid. - Okay. - Especially smoking. - Okay. So we get that message out and loud and clear, cool. Great. So you're based in Bhopal. And that's when I met you while I was writing, to Gurgaon when I met you midway in Bhopal. It was really nice to meet you. So if somebody who is or who might be listening from Bhopal, how would he or she get in touch with you if they want to get 30 cleaned? - They can just call me anytime. I'll be, you know, they can just contact me through phone. - Okay, and okay, fine. So if there is any details that you would like to share, I can put it on the show notes podcast and the people who like to get in touch with you, they can get in touch with you there. Well, thank you very much, Dr. Krithi. It was really nice speaking with you. - Pleasure is all mine. Thank you for inviting me. - I learned a lot, and I'm sure people would know a lot more about oral health or dental health in general. Yeah, but this is something really nice. Thank you very much. - Thank you, thank you so much. - Well, that is it from this episode. I hope you all liked it. We'll be back soon with a new episode, another interesting topic with coffee. Until then, keep yourselves calm, stay safe, enjoy a cup of coffee, and remember, let's make coffee simple. (upbeat music) (upbeat music)