Ep. 2099 - Trump Offers Dana White The White House Press Secretary Job
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In this episode, host discusses a series of political and cultural developments following the 2024 midterms. President Trump replaces his chief of staff with hardline immigration figure Stephen Miller, signaling a shift toward belligerence and ideological clarity to rally the base after a disastrous election. A joke by Dave Chappelle about rejoicing over the murder of Charlie Kirk is condemned as offensive and misplaced, with the host arguing it reflects poor judgment and undermines conservative values. Similarly, a left-wing influencer is targeted for a similar joke, and the host calls for her professional downfall as a necessary response to the normalization of mocking political violence. The discussion also touches on Trump’s apparent softening on immigration policy, which contradicts his appointment of a hardline official, raising questions about consistency. The host critiques liberal “free speech absolutism” as a tool for political control, advocating instead for strong, consistent boundaries rooted in moral responsibility. A failed ballot measure mandating free school meals is cited as evidence of conservatives’ concern that government programs enable parental neglect. The episode concludes with a broader call for a wartime political stance, where conservatives must defend themselves aggressively through both rhetoric and action—especially against private corporations and public figures perceived as hostile. The host emphasizes the need for moral clarity, parental responsibility, and strong opposition to cancel culture, framing the current era as one of ideological confrontation.
This episode is brought to you by Cardiff, America's favorite small business lender. There were 12 billion funded since 2004, applying under three minutes for same-day funding up to 500,000 at Cardiff.co/noles. Dave Chappelle recounts his glee at the murder of Charlie Kirk. President Trump replaces his chief of staff with immigration, hardline, or Stephen Miller, and possibly replaces his press secretary with UFC founder Dana White. And then Democrats promise to destroy any private company that helps conservative see in the gulags a Michael Noles, just a Michael Noles show. Welcome back to the show. This is the week. DailyWire's new movie Confession hits theaters November 11th, one night only. Go to DailyWire.com/findtheater to claim your free ticket if you're an all-access member. If you're not, you can still purchase a ticket, experience the movie on the big screen with the daily wire community. It's awesome, very well written, great story, all-star cast. You need to see it. If it's not playing in your area, subscribe to DailyWire Plus to watch the movie along with exclusive bonus interviews and behind the scenes content. Okay, I want to get to the Chappelle thing because Chappelle expressed his joy about how Charlie Kirk was murdered. And now you got some conservatives defending him. And it does go back to a hobby horse of mine, which is free speech and what free speech even means. It's especially ironic because Charlie defended Dave Chappelle when people were attacking Dave Chappelle, figuratively attacking him and literally attacking him. I don't know, I have a lot of thoughts on that. Before we get to that though, there is some hard political news. President Trump has replaced his chief of staff, Susie Wiles, is out Stephen Miller. The immigration hardliner is in Stephen Miller who I think is really going to rile up the base. In a good way, not in a bad way. I think he's going to really, really boost morale of the base at a very important time. You will recall Stephen Miller, one of the hardcore figures from the earliest days of President Trump's run for president, Stephen Miller, one of the only guys at Duke during the Duke lacrosse scandal when those guys got railroaded by prostitutes. And the earliest days of me to cancel culture, the Stephen Miller was one of the only people who actually defended those guys and said, hey, they're innocent until proven guilty. There's a lot of evidence that they're innocent. He was one of the only, he was one of the only people who was right about that. He is also one of the serious immigration hawks. Anyway, what does this mean? Does this mean that Trump hates Susie Wiles now or was a total failure or this or that? No, no. I think people are being way too harsh on Susie about this. The White House chief of staff is a short job. That's a job that you don't have for all that long, historically speaking. Susie Wiles has lasted longer in that role than any of President Trump's other chiefs of staff. And she's lasted longer than most chiefs of staff ever in the history of the US presidency. So President Trump came out when he discussed the shake-up. He said, Susie's done a great job, but we're moving in a new direction. I just wanted to know why you decided to make that decision. I just wanted to make a change. I think Susie's done a very good job, great job, but I just wanted to make it. Steven's been great and we got to make, we got to make moves sometimes, sometimes in life you have to make more things. We got to make moves. What does he mean by that? It's that the midterm elections were absolutely devastating for Republicans. On the national level, the only worse midterm election for a political party in recent history was 1994 when the Republicans destroyed the Democrats, but that doesn't even take into account the governorships in the state houses. So, you know, when you factor all of that in, this is the worst rubbing certainly for Republicans since the Nixon era, since Watergate. And so he says, okay, we need to make a change. Does that therefore follow that it's all Susie Wiles' fault? I don't think so. But I just think the point is now in this new environment where you've got Democrats who are going to dominate Capitol Hill and the governorships and they're going to be going for Trump left right and center, you probably need a different kind of chief of staff. I think that's what Trump is saying. So he says, all right, we need to change and what do you get with Miller? You get much more overt belligerence, which I'm into. That's great. And you also get stability. That's the key. Susie Wiles provided very, very well with stability. She was this rock solid anchor in the White House. And I think Miller is also going to provide that stability. The way that some people are describing it is that now Trump demands a wartime conciliarie. He needs, it's not necessarily Wiles or Stephen are better than each other in any general context. Now, we got the barbarians at the gates and you need a different kind of personality. So in any case, I think Trump is right. I think she did a great job in her role. I don't think she's going to take the whole fall for the midterms, not like she was running the political operation, but Stephen Miller, I think, he's going to, I think I'll do a great job in the role. But too, I think that he's going to provide a little morale boost to the base at a time when the base definitely needs it. He's got the, he's got the effectiveness. He's got the ideological clarity. He's got the belligerence, but he's also got that stability because he's been with Trump from the beginning. Okay. Then when it comes to the press secretary, big idea floated over the last few days, President Trump announced Dana White, the head of the UFC, Dana White is going to be the new press secretary. Well, he turned it down, but he was offered the role of the new press secretary allegedly. And some people thought it would be a nice blonde lady as Trump seems to prefer. Some people thought it might be a male political commentator, debates and, you know, Scott Jennings or someone like that. No, Dana White, head of the UFC, Trump says, I am pleased to announce that the great Dana White, a violent fighter and warrior, has been offered the job of press secretary of the United States. I've requested that he bring with him assistance, even though they are not from our country of Islam, Makachev, Gabib, nor Norma, Go Medov, you can tell I'm not, I don't watch a ton of UFC, but Justin Gacy, Daniel Kormier, Kormier, Amanda Nunez and Kayla Harris, we need these people to defend us against the lunatic left. Dana will be a press secretary like none other Dana, please take the job, President Donald Trey Trump. So for the people who just don't, a dozen years in, they still don't get it. They think that Trump was seriously offering the press secretary job to the head of the UFC, his longtime friend of many decades. I think it's pretty clear reading his diction, that's not what he was doing, he's making a joke. And apparently the origin of the joke is that Trump was given a short list, this is according if they're reporting. Trump was given a short list of people who had applied for the press secretary job, who might be good for it. And one of those people is this woman, Dana, W White, who was a public affairs person at the Pentagon, and she is not Dana, W White, the UFC guy, she doesn't look like him at all, but the now story circulating among the left is, Trump sees this name on the sheet, mistakenly believes it's referring to the head of the UFC and then just offers him the job. That's not what happened. Obviously, if it is the case that this woman's name was on the short list, it probably just made him laugh and say, wouldn't it be funny if we gave it to Dana White? And then he composes this over the top tweet about how he needs to bring all of these fighters in. And that's where the element of truth is. He's not actually offering the spokesman job to Dana White. The element of truth is we're in a new era that is going to require a new kind of belligerence. And President Trump just sat down with Ross Douth at on 60 minutes, and he dealt with this tension of, do you work with the Democrats who are taking over Capitol Hill or do you fight to the death like this is their monopoly? But what is the, what's the, what's the new tone? President Trump expressing both in a 60 minutes interview, but definitely more the belligerence than the working together. So speaking of antipathy toward conservatives and belligerence, the big story going around social media right now, Dave Chappelle was doing some show, you know, it looks like he got big crowd. And in the show, he does a joke, I guess it's a joke, there's no real punchline. The joke was that he feels really, really happy that Charlie Kirk was murdered. It's scary being a public speaker, and I mean, look, ever since that guy, Charlie Kirk got murdered, and I shouldn't say this publicly, but I feel better. So that's the joke. Now you might be saying, right, it sounds like a set up to a joke, what's the punchline? I think that's just it. The joke is he's happy that Charlie Kirk was murdered. Okay. Is there any more context or people who are reporting from this show saying, yeah, it's not really much more context. Here's the only other line that Charlie, you, that Dave used about Charlie. Look it up and it's right now.
Okay, now this provides a little more of a context clue because the people who really want to defend Dave Chappelle here, they're saying, no, no, you don't understand. It's an esoteric comedy bit that is riffing on a joke that Tony Hinchcliff made about George Floyd at the roast of Kevin Hart. You're not enough of a comedy nerd to understand this esoteric conversation he's having with Tony Hinchcliff. Here's Tony Hinchcliff doing the bit on George Floyd. We've done good though, Kevin. The black community is so proud of you. Right now George Floyd is looking up at us all laughing so hard that he can't breathe. God bless you, Kevin. Okay, so, so, so. First of all, if Dave is referencing the Tony Hinchcliff bit, we should know for those apparent efficient autos of comedy, this is a very old joke to say, all my enemy is looking up at me right now. First time I heard it was a Catholic priest referencing Martin Luther, okay? This is used by everyone on all sides as a joke about historical figures or dead enemies or whatever looking up at you. Now there is more specific diction here where he says he's looking up so already can't, he's laughing so hard he can't breathe. So in the case of George Floyd, that makes a lot of sense because George Floyd is fixated. Some say it was because of the officers, neon him probably it was from the four times the lethal dose of fentanyl that was in him. So Dave Chappelle is probably referencing that in this second joke about Charlie Kirk. And he says he's laughing so hard he can't breathe. That doesn't make as much sense. Other than I guess the fact that Charlie was murdered by being shot through the neck. But again, it wasn't, he was shot through his airway or he died of his fixation or anything like that. So if, if that is a reference to the George Floyd joke, it's very clumsy. It's also clumsy because part of the George Floyd joke that Tony Hinchcliff was making is on the absurdity of George Floyd, who was a career criminal, being exalted as some kind of saint or paragon of virtue. That was so absurd. At George Floyd was killed resisting arrest for many, many minutes after having immediately committed a crime, while committing another crime over the drugs that he had taken. And then he died probably of a drug overdose, but we all have to pretend there was because Derek Chauvin had his neonis back. In any case, you can't really compare that to Charlie Kirk, who was murdered by a leftist, a pro trans leftist, for saying that men and women are different. Ironic when it comes to Dave Chappelle, because Dave Chappelle got in trouble a few years back for making fun of transgenderism. And then a bunch of trainees threatened to murder Dave Chappelle and he walked it back. He ran away scared and he doesn't make the jokes anymore. Apparently one of them left a note in his hotel room, essentially saying we're watching you and then Dave Chappelle said, "All of a sudden I don't want to make training jokes anymore." So, okay, what should we do about this as conservatives? That's a real question. What do we do? We don't support cancel culture, right? And we think comedians should tell whatever jokes they want, right? And Dave Chappelle is a great genius, right? And I don't know, man, this is where I'm really lucky because, well, all of the conservatives, many, many of them jumped on the anti-canceled culture pro free speech absolutism bandwagon in 2016, 2017, 2018. I did not. In fact, I wrote a whole book about how that was all really silly and we should support censorship in certain cases and all societies have taboos and it's good to cancel people for the right reasons. So, I'm in a nice position here where I think, all right, I guess Dave Chappelle should be canceled, like whatever. I think Dave Chappelle, and I have always thought that Dave Chappelle is extremely overrated. I watched Chappelle show a little bit when it was on over 20 years ago now and there were a few funny sketches. The Wayne Brady sketch was very funny, more because of Wayne Brady than because of the issue. But Dave Chappelle was good in that sketch. The Rick James stuff was pretty funny. The one where Dave is a black Ku Klux Klan guy, it was a little clunky, but it was fairly funny. His later stuff though, he's not that good. I remember for a while, everyone was laughing and raving about how he had this really funny bit on Jesse Smollett, but I didn't think it was funny at all. The only thing about Jesse Smollett that he did was he just pronounced it with a French accent. That was supposed to be the joke. That one. Dave hasn't been all that relevant for about 20 years now. He was buddies with Norm MacDonald and he made fun of French genderism, so conservatives buoyed him up for a little bit. But I don't know. I thought he was always overrated for the last 20 years, certainly since the end of Chappelle show. He's become this kind of dime store George Carlin, George Carlin, who was also insufferable by the end of his career. And he gets up on stage. He doesn't really tell all that many jokes and he just tries to philosophize. I remember even some years back, Dave did this whole bit about Candace, where he just said I hate Candace and she's stupid and he made like kind of gross obscene comments about her. But that was it. That was the whole joke. There wasn't even a punchline and all the conservatives said, oh, we need to be welcoming of this. I don't know. I never thought it. I have no problem canceling people for the right reasons. In this case, there really was no joke. If it was a reference to Hingecliffe, it was a clumsy reference, it doesn't work. And then the main part of the joke is just that he's happy that Charlie Kirk was murdered. So I just think like, all right, I never cared that much about Dave Chappelle. He's totally dead to me. He should be canceled. I have no problem with that. He's obviously his star has faded a lot over the last 20 years. But in as much as an aging comedian can be canceled for this, cancel him. That's fine. No big deal. No great loss. I don't intend to watch any more Dave Chappelle specials, but I haven't haven't watched very many in recent years anyway. Okay. Unfortunate. But I don't see any reason to defend it. Based on what the sacred principle of absolute free speech with no censorship, that's a liberal idea, not a conservative idea. Based on what? Dave's deep conservative bona fides, Dave's comedy is grounded in liberalism and black identityarianism, if anything, with the occasional joke about a tranny that he got too scared to do starting about five years ago. So all right, I got that's deep conservatism. I don't think we need to defend him ideologically. Why? Because he's so funny. His last funny bit was a joke with Wayne Brady 20 years ago, who like, I don't know, man, it doesn't, it's sad, too bad. He got, he wanted attention. He wanted some more relevance. He got it for a week or two, but I don't, we don't, you don't need to defend the Dave Chappelle joke. You can be a conservative and not defend Dave Chappelle's stupid joke. Okay. Now much more to get to because there's another woman who is getting canceled. She's a prominent left wing streamer and podcaster. She's getting absolutely destroyed for a Charlie Kirk joke as she should be. Now she's run and scared because she's losing her whole career such as it is. And we need to double down and make sure that this woman's professional life is completely ruined. First though, I want to tell you about rabbit air. There's a lot more to say. First though, go to rabbitair.com. I love my rabbit air. I have multiple rabbit airs. I have a mayflower rabbit air in my home. 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Charlie was murdered by a pro-trainy leftist who was dating a male furry and he inscribed left wing slogans onto the bullets that he used to murder Charlie Kirk and Tifa slogans. Why does she say that at the end? After laughing at the murder of Charlie for however long, clearly the murder of Charlie tickled her. She realized, oh shoot, I might have gone too far. This might blow back on me. So you know what? No, he was murdered by a right-winger. Well, first of all, the fact that you were just laughing at this for 40 seconds shows that the murder of Charlie Kirk was the sort of thing that appealed to the left, not to the right. But two, you don't really believe that, do you? That seems like a little bit of a CYA. No, no, no, no. It was a right-winger. It wasn't a left-winger. Obviously, all of the evidence says it was a left-winger, regardless.
This woman has a podcast, I guess some people listen to it and she has a bunch of sponsors on that podcast. So there was some blowback to this and she didn't address it for days and days and days. Then sponsors started to cancel, chewy like the granola bar, cash app, a few people started to cancel her, okay? Then we get some other sponsors starting to cancel her. And then it becomes dozens of sponsors canceling her. So this woman's career, such as it is, is getting absolutely brutalized and she decides she's going to apologize. She sends out an apology, but it's not a real apology. She says, "Oh, I'm so sorry. I would never joke about gun violence, donate to every town, gun control organization now." So she's trolling the conservatives even in her fake apology, where she says, "Yeah, no. I would never joke, not about the murder of conservatives, not about political violence, not about the murder of Charlie Kirkner." I would never joke about gun violence, donate to your local gun control agency today. So it's a way just to troll conservatives. Even if it had been a sincere apology, there would need to be consequences, but in this case, she's just flipping the bird at us. So there are a few more sponsors that have not yet canceled her. One is article, which is a furniture store, I guess. One is Quince, which is a big outlet that ships from Hong Kong or something. One is momentous supplements and one is the ASPCA pet insurance. So right this down, if you're driving, pull over, if you're standing up, sit down, article, the article, furniture company, their phone number is 1-888-746-3455, write that one down. Quince, the outlet company, 1-888-618-9322, momentous supplements, the number is 1-800-357-8714, and ASPCA pet insurance, 1-866-20467-64, I would strongly encourage you to call all of those companies and express your displeasure with the comments of this woman that they're sponsoring and make it clear to them that you will never purchase their product if they continue to sponsor this woman. It's not enough that this woman lost dozens of sponsors, most of her sponsors. That's not enough. She needs to lose all of them. She needs to lose her job. She needs to become poor financially. She needs to be ostracized from polite society. She needs to be excluded from society. She needs to feel the pain of having violated what should be a very serious taboo. They say that the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. That's how I feel about this free speech cancel culture issue. Having been a voice in the wilderness for a long time on this issue among the right where they say that we have to, in totally support free speech, that's not how it works. That is a left wing concept. When that idea of free speech absolutism was introduced to the United States in the 60s, it was done by the left to destroy the prevailing taboos of society so that they could gain power, so that they could re-implement their own taboos and persecute normal people. That's what happened. We need to bring this back on them. We need to ruin this woman's professional life. Not her personal life. I hope she converts. I hope she cooperates with God's grace and I hope she has fulfillment, ultimately. But in terms of her career, in terms of her job, she needs to be completely destroyed, absolutely. And it is good. That's kind of censorship is good. Dave Chappelle should feel the consequences of that joke. That's a good thing. And the kind of neutered liberal conservatism that says that we need to laugh as our enemies are threatening us and joking about our murder. That ain't my conservatism. I know some people like to say, well, you know, I'm a classical liberal. I'm a libertarian. I'm a, I'm a, I'm a true liberal. I'm not. I'm not a true liberal. I'm not an old liberal. I'm not any kind of liberal. I'm not a classical liberal. I like to think that I'm classical, but I'm not a classical liberal. I ain't any kind of that. I'm a conservative. I'm a right-winger. And these people are about to feel very, very empowered and we need to take as many wins as we possibly can. This is the age for a wartime quenciliere, okay? This is the age for a little bit of rhetorical and political belligerence. Now speaking of death, I want to tell you about trust and will. First, they go to trustinwill.com/nolescanadwls. Keeping a fire extinguisher in your kitchen does not mean you expect dinner to end in catastrophe. 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And this is one, call me a boomer conservative, I don't care. This is one where I think I'm very glad this ballot measure failed because parents should feed their kids, actually. Seems to me, one of the basic truths of all political society is that parents should feed their kids. And I say it's kind of a boomercon point of view because the more boomer conservative point of view is that we never want any more government spending, we never want to grow the size of the state. We don't want to break the government and we want financial austerity, we want to cut welfare programs. And younger conservatives, especially Gen Z and some millennials, they're more open to using government power. They're not perfectly laissez-faire libertarian on economics. They're not totally opposed to social solidarity or what have you. But this would be, I think, a good area of an intersection between these views because the reason to oppose this ballot measure has basically nothing to do with money. Yes, I guess it could raise taxes a little bit or it could spend money differently. And I'm sure it would be very inefficient and I'm sure the free market could better take care of this issue. Yeah, whatever, that's not the point. The reason that I oppose free breakfast and lunch as a mandate from the state constitution in all public schools, the reason I oppose that is because of what it does to the parents. Because it encourages parents not to take care of their kids and it puts a mandate over a problem, which is child abuse and child neglect. The obvious rejoinder when I say that parents should feed their kids, actually, is they'll say, well, some parents don't. Did you know that, Michael? Some parents will not feed their kids two out of three meals a day. Maybe they'll give them dinner, but they won't give them breakfast. They won't give them lunch. And so therefore, the schools need to provide free lunch. There's no such thing as a free lunch, but that's why the schools need to take taxpayer dollars to give every kid breakfast and lunch. And I would say, okay, if your argument is that some parents starve their children, that's your argument for this ballot measure, I think we have a bigger problem. Wouldn't you say, I guess I would be willing to vote for the ballot measure to have government pay for breakfast and lunch in schools if when the student accesses the breakfast and lunch program, the parent gets arrested. If you could say, okay, here's my card for my free breakfast and my free lunch. And then as you swipe the card, the cops show up and arrest the parents, I'm fine with that. That's cool, because it's not about the money. I don't care. I'll pay extra money for a kid to eat. I don't want any kid to starve ever. The problem is when you rely on this kind of a program, when you say there's a massive demand for this kind of a program, what you're saying is there are parents, many parents who are starving their children and we're not going to do anything about it. We're not going to punish the parents. Now, you could say, well, the parents, you know, the parents, they don't have enough money to feed their kids. Then I'm enough money to feed their kids. I bet you in 100% of cases, if you go to that parent's house, you could find some discretionary spending. You could find a few packs of cigarettes. You could find some electronics. You probably find some harder drugs that are being used rather than buying your kid at Turkey sandwich. You say, well, what should we do? Okay, well, here's what I would do. If a parent is depriving his or her child of two out of three meals a day, I would put that parent in prison and I would--
I would put that kid in another home. You say, well, that's about a foster care systems, bad, this system's bad, maybe, it ain't as bad as your parents starving you to at a three meals a day. Deep, now at this point, the lips who are pushing for this kind of ballot measure, they'll say, no, no, no, no, no, it's not that bad, it's not that bad. Okay, well, then tell me the truth. Is this really about parents starving their kids for two meals a day or not? If it is, we need to arrest the parents. If it's not, why are we paying for free breakfast and lunch? Do we want to encourage further child abuse and neglect on the point that part of these parents or do we want to create a society that is supposed to be conducive toward the common good, which is supposed to help people to grow and virtue? Are we gonna create a society where the parents at the bare minimum are encouraged to feed their children? What do you think it is? I think it would have to be the latter. This is how I feel about the campus rape culture and me two stuff, where they say, the lips say, on the one hand, they say, that Harvard Yard is more dangerous for women than the back alleys of Botswana. One in three women who goes to a college campus, goes to an Ivy League school, gets raped along the way. You say, whoa, whoa, whoa, is that really? That's true. One in three, one in four women who go to Ivy League universities are gonna get raped while they're there, better shut them all down. Oh, you believe, okay. Well, if one in three women is getting raped at Harvard, we need to close down Harvard tomorrow. Oh, we shouldn't close down Harvard. Oh, you don't even want us to slightly defund the gender studies department at Harvard? You don't want us to hold on. So you must not really believe that. Well, okay, I'll tell you what, at the very least, if one in three women is getting raped at Harvard or Princeton or wherever, then surely we need new courts. We need to hire more judges, more police officers. We need to put all of these cases on trial. Oh, you don't want to do that either. You just want little tribunals of professors to ruin the lives of young men over unsubstantiated allegations. Oh, so you don't, okay. So what I take from that is you don't really believe that there's a rape culture on college campuses. There's something else going on. There's a hook-up culture. There's the sexual revolution. There is feminism. There is sexual regret. There is all these things that are direct consequences of your stupid ideology that you don't want to get rid of. So you want to bandate over the problems caused by your ideology and you want to ruin innocent people's lives in the meantime, okay. Same thing here. Feed your kids breakfast and lunch. If you cannot afford to feed your kids breakfast and lunch, take recourse to a charity or the substantial welfare state that we have for people who cannot do that sort of thing. If you can't do that, if you can't take welfare dollars, EBT, your local food pantry, your local church, if you can't avail yourself of that to give your kid a freaking peanut butter and jelly sandwich, then your kids need to be taken away from you. Do you really mean that? Is that really what you think is going on? No, or do you just want to grow a government program and get people more hooked on the teet of liberal school administrators? If it's the latter, I'm glad that failed. Okay. Now, let's get to the future of conservatism. Let's get to the future of this administration, because President Trump just sat down with Ross Douthet of 60 Minutes, an illustrative interview going on all of the big issues that people are talking about out of the midterms, corruption, immigration policy, even President Trump's eternal soul. First, though, we will have to get to our great sponsor pre-born. There's a lot more to say first. They're going to pre-born.com/noles. 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Maybe someone in the comments can explain to me why that was their favorite comment. I don't know, that one didn't do it for me. President Trump sits down with Ross Douth that he has asked about corruption. There's a forum story that said that your net worth, maybe it's changed for the stock market recently, but your net worth went up by $3 billion. Well, since you returned to-- Okay, you ready? So has everyone-- My net worth did not go up by $3 billion. Well, you should have had stock. I should have had stock. Excuse me, so-- How did it go up by $3 billion? How did it go up by $3 billion? Well, let me explain. I do about almost no time to my net worth. I don't care. I have a lot of money. And far more than I ever thought I'd have. And I guess it's gone up. I don't even know. I have a son who's a very straight good guy. He watches over money. I don't even talk to him about it. He watches. He gives-- They gave my money. I have a lot of cash. I've had a lot of cash long before I came in here. I don't take a salary, you know? OK, so Trump is saying, you're calling me corrupt. Yeah, my net worth has increased. It's because the stock market went up. So that's true. The stock market did go up a lot, especially before the Iran War and a recent ding to tech stocks. Because they had an Nvidia. Might have been sleeping with the Chinese spy. And anyway, and because the Democrats won. And maybe we should do a whole episode dedicated to the role of these tech stocks in our economy and how we're all about to get this wrecked. But that's neither here nor there. The real reason President Trump's net worth has increased. According to Forbes, which did this analysis, is two reasons. One, president-- one, three, I guess, because you say the stock market a little bit. But it's two main reasons. One, President Trump's media company, Trump Media, went public through a SPAC before President Trump re-entered office after Trump was booted out of the White House by corrupt people. And while he was in the Interregnum, when he was a private citizen, he'd been a billionaire for a very, very long time, Trump started a media company, also because Trump was booted off of all the social media platforms. So he said, well, if I want to talk to people, I have to start my own media company. That company did well. It went public through a SPAC and Trump made a ton of money on that. Before he was president, it's not in a monument's issue. He didn't even try to start the media companies. It's not like he ran for President to start a media company. He was already a major media star. But he had to start the social media company because he got booted off all the social media platforms. He'll legitimately. Okay. Says that. And then Trump got a piece of a crypto meme coin, which everyone knew was a meme coin. So you might think meme coins are bad or frivolous or whatever, but they're not dishonest. Meme coins are pretty open. They're these kind of like jokes, they're kind of like gambling. President Trump has known a thing or two about gambling. He used home casinos in Atlantic City. That's it. That's how his net worth went up. According to Forbes. So you can say, well, I don't like Trump's media companies. Okay. Whatever. I don't like meme coins. Some of those is corrupt. Where's the corruption? This is the irony. The Democrats are really going to go after Trump on corruption. They're not going to get them on anything. They might get people around him two or three circles out from him. I mean, it's Washington, DC. There's a lot of corruption in DC for either political party in any administration. I don't think you're going to get Trump though. What's the allegation? This is one of the arguments for having rich people be president. It's harder to corrupt rich people because they already have their own money. It's much easier to corrupt poor people because they don't have any money. So they got to dial for dollars and then they're puppets of donors. So I don't think you're going to get them on that. Also, if there were some big smoking gun on corruption, wouldn't they have gotten them already? They've tried to prosecute this guy four times. They've impeached him twice. They tried to murder him. They haven't gotten them. I don't think so. Corruption is going to be a very, very big issue once the Democrats retake the House. That's I think where their focus is going to be is they're going to try to find corruption to just poison the air for any 2028 presidential candidate on the right. I don't think they're getting Trump though. Are they going to get him? It's very easy to say, "Oh, I think Trump has corrupt." Pointed out to me because even Forbes could not do that. Okay. Next one. This is a little more troubling. President Trump was asked about the role of his immigration policies in the midterms and he proposes getting a little softer on immigration. What is one thing you would like to work with a Democratic majority? I'd love to do something on immigration. What? Because, well, so. Do you think immigration hurt you in the midterms? Do you think the crackdown hurt you? I think it both helped in her. I think I got an A plus for closing up the border. I get very serious.
high marks for getting the bad ones out, but I get hurt because we also took people that had good jobs, that created one violation, or breaking of the law, and that was that they came into the country illegally. Now, there is a large part of the country that think that they should be put out, and there's a large part of the country that think that they should be allowed to stay. If they're good people working in a landscaping company or working in an hotel, or doing something, right? And in some cases, paying taxes, and there's a large group of people think that they should be allowed to stay. So, you think your deportation policy went too far. I think it might be too tough, yeah. What would happen? What does the deal look like with the Democrats? Well, the deal would be we would work something out, and I think it's something, I think that's something that's actually doable. Doable to create some kind of legal stuff for the landscapers. Okay. Okay. What's going on here? What's going on? Let me see if I can understand this. It could be the case that what Trump is saying is literally true, that he thinks that he was too tough on the immigration crackdown, and he's got to deport the violent criminals, but he should let other illegal aliens stay and possibly even give them some kind of legal status. He could mean that. He might just mean that. We'll get to that in a second. But it is a little strange, isn't it, that President Trump makes these comments when at the same time he appoints his chief of staff, arguably the most powerful person in Washington, DC, the most prominent immigration hardliner in American politics, Stephen Miller, who wants to deport everybody and their grannies and their dry cleaner too. That's very strange. We need to go softer on immigration. Also, I'm appointing Stephen Miller chief of staff. That seems like those two things are intention, right? What could be happening here is Trump is going on 60 minutes, which is a very mainstream show on a network television station. He's just trying to assuage the American people and say, no, no, I'm going to be much more mainstream. I want to work with the Democrats. I'm the reasonable one. When the Democrats come in all belligerent, then they're going to look like the unreasonable ones that might help us approval. It could be that. I hope that that's what's going on here. Let's take Trump at his word though. Let's say that what he's saying is, no, no, no, we went too far and we need, we need to allow a lot of illegal aliens to stay. And actually, we might even give them legal status. This would be, I think, a bad idea. I think Trump knows this deep down. There's no negotiating with these people. There's no, he, I think he knows this better than anybody. And in fact, an interview that he gives later to Ross Douth, it reveals that. But there's not going to be some kumbaya. They're not going to pass major legislation. Trump's going to be done veto Corleone where he's just going to shoot down everything the Democrats try to pass. They're not even going to try to pass all that much. They're just going to try to subpoena and persecute everyone around Trump. So I don't think he gets any upside for going soft on immigration. The other thing is mass migrations became a mainstream political issue that won practically the popular vote in 2024. And you can't have mass deportations if you're only deporting the people with face tattoos. There aren't enough face tattoos. There aren't enough MS 13 members. You could message that you're arresting the people with the face tattoos, but in order to have real mass deportations from a position when you have the highest foreign war percentage of the population ever, you need to deport Abuela. You need to deport Abuela. I'm sure Abuela's are very, very nice. I like them. I'm not a huge fan of Mexican food, actually, but I like, but I like a lot of the Latin American culture, especially cigars. It's nothing against them personally. But either you have the rule of law where you don't. Either you have a coherent society or you don't. Either you think that immigration has created a major problem of assimilation and social solidarity, or you don't, or you think immigration is just fine. But most people don't think immigration is just fine. And most people's problem with immigration is not just that MS 13 is committing ritualistic, satanic murderers with their face tattoos. Most people think the problem of assimilation is that you walk down the street and you don't recognize your own country. And the customs have changed and the way of life has changed. And people are speaking a language that you don't want to hear. That's the problem. This has been true going back to antiquity for all manner of polities. So if that's the issue, you have to deport Abuela, even if the hotel lobby doesn't like it, even if the farmer's lobby doesn't like it. You know, Joseph Demestra, a very important counter-enlightenment thinker, he made this point that has been reiterated by many others over the years, that every nation gets the government deserves. And so people really, people do want to deport all the illegals because it creates social problems. But they want to keep their favorite illegal. You know, they want to keep the guy who runs the landscaping business. They want to keep their, their guy. They want to keep this person there. So they want contrary things. They don't want mass migration, but they do want the welfare state, but they don't want to have kids. Okay, well, one of those has to give, you know, these are the tensions in government. And so I feel for Trump because he's dealing with all of these things. He goes to the Iran war. 90% of Americans don't want to run to get a nuclear weapon. 90% of Americans don't want to go to war in Iran. What are we supposed to do with that? I feel for the guy, but his defining issue, in as much as he is defined by an issue, it is this immigration hardline view. He cannot give it up. He can. I don't know who's chatting in his ear. And I feel better that Stephen Miller will be in his ear because Stephen Miller has the right view on immigration. Okay. Before we go, I know our running light. I don't care where this whole interview leads is what will happen to President Trump when it's all over. Not when the second term is all over when his life is all over when he's going up, he's chatting with St. Peter at the pearly gates looking forward to seeing the very face of God. Would Trump be willing to forgive his enemies? But I think facts come through jokes. You said, "I hate my opponents and I don't want the best for them." Let's say you're entering the next life. And all you have to do to enter paradise is feel love and forgiveness for James Comey, Nancy Pelosi, anyone who you have expressed hate for over the years. Do you think you can do it? Well, then I wouldn't be real. What I mean, if I said to you, sure, the easy answer to that. Oh, yes, I could forgive. No, I don't think it's an easy question. I found them to be extremely dishonest people, very bad people, very bad for our country. I love our country far more than I can love people and people like that. Is the answer? No. The answer is no. I want to be honest. Before the judgment. Before the judgment. No, I think they were very bad people and I dislike. I can use the word hate. I do hate some of my enemies. I think they've been terrible. Look what they've put me through the weaponization. Mr. President, you have had the most charmed and remarkable life of any American in my entire lifetime. And you are telling me you couldn't find it in your heart to forgive some of your enemies. After all that's been given to you, it's such an easy answer. I have to say yes, I can't. Again, I don't think it's an easy answer. Can I be honest? I probably cannot do that now because I do hate some of my enemies and I always will. I shouldn't laugh because this is a serious issue. But I remember, was it Charlie's memorial that Erica came out and she musters the courage to say I forgive the person who has done the most wrong to me ever in my life that I could even possibly imagine. I forgive that person, not as a matter of like he should get off the hook, but as a matter of personal forgiveness, which Christ calls on all of us to do. And it's this amazing moment. And then Trump gets on stage and he says, I don't, I hate my enemies. And I do not wish what is best for them. Just an amazingly hilarious brutal honest take that Trump here says he goes, I wouldn't be being real if I said that. Okay. So it's a matter of religion and as a matter of our eternal souls. You actually do have to forgive your enemies because God forgives us because we've sinned against an infinitely good God and we could never make up that debt ourselves. So Christ, you know, dies on the cross for us, for the sins of everyone, forgive them father for they know what they do. He prays for his persecutors, even as they're killing him. And so in the Lord's Prayer, we forgive others are the sins that they commit against us just as we ask for forgiveness from God the father. Okay. So that's just a true matter of religion. However, I was laughing during Trump's answer because Trump is not saying, I think Christianity is false. Trump is not saying, I think Christ is wrong. Trump is not saying that it's bad to forgive your enemies. He's not saying, he's not, he's not disagreeing with Christian forgiveness in principle. In fact, he's kind, he's almost agreeing with it in principle. It's such an easy answer, isn't it? I should just say yes, I could forgive them. But I just, I just want to be honest with you, Ross, I hate them. I hate these people. They tried to destroy my life. They tried to destroy my family. They tried to put me in jail. They tried to kill me. I hate them. I hate them so much. And I don't want to lie. I don't want to commit another sin and tell you that I would forgive them. I hate them. And I'll always hate them. So truly, I love President Trump. I love the guy. I think he's great. I voted for him every time. And he's just, I just, I love the guy. I speak New York, you know, so I think I understand what he's saying in a way that maybe some other people don't. And I, he's great. So I care about Trump. And I, I want him to go to heaven someday. And he, he does actually need to ultimately, he does need to learn to forgive his enemies. However, the one thing I will say for President Trump's answer here, which is a little, maybe it's a little too rosy, but there's something to it. I am
One reminded, when he speaks frequently, but especially when he says things like this, of Matthew, chapter 18, verse 3, and Christ says, "You must become like a little child to enter into the kingdom of heaven." And I just think, I'm just a hypothetical. You get two people. Some slick, dirty, filthy politician comes out and says, "Oh yeah, of course I would forgive my enemies. I must. I'm a Paragon of Christian virtue." Meanwhile, this guy shitting everyone he knows behind him, just doing the worst nastiest duplicitous fraudulent things, right? There's that guy. That's the normal politician. Then you get Trump. He goes, "Look, I'm going to be real. I hate my enemies so much." And yeah, I probably shouldn't, and I should probably forgive them, but I just can't. I just, I'm not, I am personally not capable of that, and I hate them. And yeah, I got to figure that out, huh? At the very least, Trump, in that circumstance, is displaying a childlike behavior. Some would say maybe childish a little bit, but it is at least childlike. You know, like a five-year-old said, "I don't want to forgive my brother. I hate him. He took my toy. I don't." There is at least something to that. Anyway, we should pray for President Trump. He should ultimately forgive his enemies, but there's something, there's something childlike about that. There's something very honest about his take on that. Okay. I really want to get to it. I know I teased it off the top. The Democrats are promising to go after not just Trump and not just the people around Trump and not just the people in the government. Private corporations that have not towed the left-wing line. They're promising to go after a private industry. They're promising to go after you. They're promising to go after your kids. If your teenage kid even thinks about volunteering on a Republican campaign, it is about to get real, real nasty. It's going to make Dave Chappelle's show look like a walk in the park, but we have to get to that tomorrow. The rest of the show continues. Now, you do not want to miss it. Become a member of UseCodeNoles. Check out for two months for your all-annual plans. They take me out of my bed and they brought me here and they tell me nothing. What have I done? Article 58, counter-revolutionary activity. That's all I know. They have to deal with so many enemies of the state, all of whom claim their innocence, who protest, who cry. There are no answers here, other than the ones they put in your mouth, your break. The day is your opportunity to demonstrate your loyalty to the people. I'd like to know why I'm here, of course. But you're already now, don't you? I must believe in something greater than the party. You will remember your duty. I told you I know nothing. They grow, like a fair all-annual. You stink of failure. You want me to lie. You're a drunk. Damn you! They all break. Maybe.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
President Trump replaces Chief of Staff Susie Wiles with hardline immigration advocate Stephen Miller to boost base morale and provide ideological clarity after a devastating midterm loss.
Trump’s proposed shift includes appointing UFC founder Dana White as a joke press secretary, signaling a new tone of belligerence and anti-left rhetoric, though it is not a serious offer.
Dave Chappelle’s joke expressing happiness over Charlie Kirk’s murder is widely criticized as out of touch and offensive, with the speaker arguing it lacks humor and reflects poor judgment on free speech.
A left-wing streamer and podcaster is being targeted for canceling over a similar joke about Charlie Kirk, and the speaker advocates for her professional destruction to uphold strong moral boundaries against mocking political violence.
Trump appears to soften on immigration policy in interviews, suggesting a deal with Democrats to allow legal status for some undocumented workers, contradicting his appointment of a hardline immigration figure.
The speaker defends a conservative stance on free speech, arguing that cancellation of controversial content—especially by figures like Chappelle—should be applied consistently and that liberal “free speech absolutism” is a tool for political control.
A failed ballot measure to mandate free school meals underscores a conservative concern that government programs encourage child neglect and undermine parental responsibility.
The broader narrative centers on a “wartime quincunx” era of political belligerence, where conservatives must defend themselves against perceived liberal attacks, including on private companies and public figures.
Summary:
In this episode, host discusses a series of political and cultural developments following the 2024 midterms. President Trump replaces his chief of staff with hardline immigration figure Stephen Miller, signaling a shift toward belligerence and ideological clarity to rally the base after a disastrous election. A joke by Dave Chappelle about rejoicing over the murder of Charlie Kirk is condemned as offensive and misplaced, with the host arguing it reflects poor judgment and undermines conservative values.
Similarly, a left-wing influencer is targeted for a similar joke, and the host calls for her professional downfall as a necessary response to the normalization of mocking political violence. The discussion also touches on Trump’s apparent softening on immigration policy, which contradicts his appointment of a hardline official, raising questions about consistency. The host critiques liberal “free speech absolutism” as a tool for political control, advocating instead for strong, consistent boundaries rooted in moral responsibility.
A failed ballot measure mandating free school meals is cited as evidence of conservatives’ concern that government programs enable parental neglect. The episode concludes with a broader call for a wartime political stance, where conservatives must defend themselves aggressively through both rhetoric and action—especially against private corporations and public figures perceived as hostile. The host emphasizes the need for moral clarity, parental responsibility, and strong opposition to cancel culture, framing the current era as one of ideological confrontation.
FAQs
President Trump replaced Susie Wiles with Stephen Miller, a hardline immigration advocate, to boost base morale and provide political stability. Miller’s appointment signals a more belligerent and ideologically clear approach, especially after the devastating midterm election losses for Republicans.
No, it was a joke. Trump humorously suggested appointing Dana White, the UFC head, as press secretary, but clarified it was not a real offer. The joke emerged from a misreading of a shortlist and reflects a desire for a more belligerent, aggressive tone in communication.
Chappelle's joke about being 'happy' that Charlie Kirk was murdered sparked controversy. It has been interpreted as a clumsy reference to a prior comedy bit about George Floyd, and many conservatives see it as inappropriate, especially given Chappelle’s past issues with trans-related topics and his own history of being targeted.
The streamer made a joke about Charlie Kirk’s murder, which many conservatives view as offensive and inappropriate. In response, sponsors have canceled their support, and the streamer has issued a superficial apology, leading to calls for her professional career to be fully destroyed as a form of accountability.
The argument is that such programs enable parental neglect and encourage child abuse by implying that parents are failing to feed their children. Critics argue that if parents cannot afford to feed their children, they should be held accountable—such as through arrest or removal from custody—rather than relying on government handouts.
Trump has expressed openness to a softer immigration policy, suggesting potential legal pathways for some undocumented workers. However, this appears contradictory given his appointment of Stephen Miller, a staunch hardliner, and reflects a strategic effort to appear reasonable to the public while maintaining core immigration hardline principles.
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