EP. 140 - Anthony "Badge 502" Christian Invades the Cave!!!

The Dance Man Cave Podcast is brought to you by Pettigree Exsteriors, providing personalized service, roof, windows, sighting, and more. Pettigree Exsteriors, Lincoln, Nebraska, a home's best friend. Live from the Pettigree Exsteriors studios, hits the Dance Man Cave Podcast with Josh and RJ. Crack open a brew, kick off those frosting shoes, and double-click those tongs. The show starts now. Welcome to the cave. All right. We're back again. Episode 140. RJ, we've been trying to get this guy on for, I think, two or three months now. Yeah. He's been super busy with his crazy social media icon ride that he's on. On the top of it off, he's a brand new dad, so he's got that going for him too. That's awesome. Congrats. Yeah. So we're going to have Anthony Christian, who is otherwise known as Badge 502. He's an EMT 911 dispatcher from New Jersey. So yeah, he's kind of taken a social media scene by storm with his crazy video reviews that he gets tagged in, and he just basically responds, and it's hilarious. Yeah. Incredible. But you know, that's what I like, and I think that's like what endured me so much to like, gory. Some of the most fun we've had on the show. I mean, real dudes, real life. And you know, when you say the word, you really can't make this shit up. That's what I, that's what makes social media fun. So yeah, I'm excited. Yeah. Oh, yeah, we got to kind of give a couple of shout outs this weekend. Hocket is going to be playing at the February racetrack on Friday, July 10th. And Briella Steiner is going to be in tanks and Lincoln on July 10th. Oh, that's awesome. And then the trainer ban is going to be playing in the rail yard after the treaty, Oak Revival Concert and Memorial Stadium. Well, that's right. So that's pretty cool. Yeah. And well, and like trainer ban, they're going to be out at Ashland coming up. You're pretty soon too on their kind of, that was a music Wednesdays or whatever out there. The country live drive, July 29th. I think it's actually his birthday. Yep. So I don't know. Man, everybody's keeping busy and man. We're sure they're definitely pounding the pavement this summer. Good for you guys. Have a good time. And hey, everybody get out there and catch you some live music. You're all be around a lot of people are having a good time. You don't see a lot of frown. And so yeah, give her a local musician some love. Oh, yeah, also Tyler Anthony is going to be playing at the zoo on July 10th too. Hey, see the Adam where? Yeah. Tyler Anthony country gold. Yeah, I think it's $39 and you get like three beers and you get to get inside of the Lincoln zoo. And listen to what? Yeah, Lincoln at the Lincoln Children's Zoo for that. When you pay $39, you get three beers to. Geez. And I thought be 35 bucks a person just to get in Z Tyler. And you get zoo animals. Only smokes. Yeah. So about you, you guys got a wild weekend. Blind softball skate this weekend. I'm just going to keep it short here, but we can beat anybody that's that's in that bracket. I'm hoping we go on a run. I feel good, but we've got a little bit of break. So I'm nervous. And then next week, we'll dip our toe in the water, but we're going to the class C VIP world series in Kansas City. And it's some pretty epic complex and there's going to be a lot of national teams there. So we'll see what we're made up. But yeah, and then that's going to wrap up softball until well practice probably starts again in September. But whatever. But anyway, yeah, softball man. I'm really excited. Bryce has come a long way. And I just want to see what this team can do. See if they can put it all together. Yeah, good luck, Bryce. All right, we are back episode 140 with a very, very important person. We got Anthony Christian. Otherwise known as badge 502. He's a new Jersey EMT 911 dispatcher. Also a CPR instructor. But his claim to fame is he's the badge 502 and 502 reviews on YouTube. RJ does have about 108,000 followers. Oh, wow. And then Facebook presence is about 1.2 million followers. Instagram 744,000. So we got to get those numbers up a little bit. And then 926.6,000 followers on TikTok. So wow. Thanks a lot badge for coming on. Really appreciate you taking time and to talk to us. And if you kind of want to give everybody a little glimpse into your life. Oh, I think you're muted. I'll do that 85 times today, man. I am so good at that. Freaking the little red, the little red squeezy button. It's unbelievable. So yeah, what's going on, gentlemen? My name is Anthony, content creator, badge 502. Across pretty much all platforms except Instagram where I'm EMT badge 502 because when I joined the platform, they had my username already. And then once I got verified, they got rid of theirs. Bunch of jerks. It's such a pain. It's a pain in the neck process to like re-verify it. It's not like I've been on social media pushing pretty hard since 2020. I think everything started in 2020 right in the started COVID when I when I became an EMT. 2020 I became an EMT and 911 dispatcher. I was going to school kind of for both at the same time. And obviously that's one of the pandemic hit. So when that happened, I was physically in EMT school. So we I went from I got sick. I got real sick, but it didn't have COVID right because that didn't exist. That wasn't a thing. So I said a really bad call and it just cold. And then you know, we're all still going to class because you know, but I'm not going to miss school. We just paid for my department paid for it. I'm not going to not go to school. So we all went to school and after three weeks later, there was no school no more. It's all gone. We went virtual. And so what would have taken me like two and a half, three months to do. I ended up doing it about seven months. Because we couldn't meet for practical. So it was like we were able to do all the book work, which is great. You're able to at least knock that out. But if I can't meet in person to show you that I can do a medical assessment or a trauma assessment. Or if I can't show you that I could strap you to a board or give you medication. That's not going to be no good. So we got all that. And then we were finally allowed to meet at a literally they gave us like an undisclosed location. They're like, meet here. It was an address. I don't know that it'd be in like the sub basement of one of the hospitals. This medical substance. Yeah, quite literally. And they're like, we're going to knock this out. It was just all current off stations. It was, it was crazy. But then that that went through and got my certification. And I went from seeing patients that were like little Johnny with the skin knee or like, you know, left the cysts at two in the morning that everyone jokes about. I went to see in like 15 or 20 patients a day that were just carton one after the other. I barely saw my station. We were just dragging one to the next to the next to the next to the next. Every hospital was on diver. It was it was crazy. It was a crazy time. And that became really stressful. So I needed something to sort of disassociate from that because I didn't want to end up with any type of bad mental health issues. And all my buddies were playing around on musically for a year or so before that. And then that just kind of became TikTok. And I was like, I can like, I'm like 50. I could totally take talk. Why not? So I started, he started doing voiceovers and stuff that made me laugh. And like, if it made somebody else left that was cool. That was that was nice. But like, I didn't care. It was for me. And it's all this is still for me. I tell people all the time that the minute the stops being funnel burned the whole thing down. But yeah. And it got me. It got me focused on something else between, you know, in the 20 minutes that we had in downtime. And so it's just kind of built from there. And they just got that they say, uh, you got to get a little bit lucky. I got a lot of it lucky. There's a lot of a lot of cool things that happen along the way that got me a couple of really cool, cool numbers. And you know, it's that they're just numbers at the end of the day. But you know, it's it's nice. It's one. I mean, those aren't just numbers because I know like when I'm scrolling through and I see your videos pop up, I know it's just going to change my day. You know, like you see something crazy like a banana that turns into to a sword or the slammer rammer, but yeah, just breaks up the freaking craziness of your life, just being able to take that 15 to 30 seconds and laugh a little bit. I couldn't agree with you more, man. When they say laughter is the best medicine, it's not a joke, you know, it really helps, it helps, it helps shave that callus off, you know, it's not a put too fine point on it because you can get a real, a real edge to you. If you're not, you're gonna put a little giggle in your life. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. But it's been, it's been incredibly rewarding. It's a real blessing to be able to do this and just hang out with a bunch of really cool people and just, this is something that I never thought I'd get to do. So I'm riding it to the wheels fall off. For sure. Yeah. I might have like one wheel kind of trickle in or something, but right now we're going, we're going strong. So how about you, Jens? What's going on with you guys? This was quite the, quite the meeting in the making. Yes. Yes. Well, I don't know. I was telling Josh before we got on here that, you know, I just like it because we had a, we had a, no gentleman who's on and just kind of in his everyday life and, you know, and just kind of an escape and just kind of have fun with it and, you know, a cop fire. And I just told Josh I really enjoy having guests on the kind of share our passion. You know what I mean? Like we did it for us and we've gotten to do a lot of cool things because of it. And maybe not on the scale, you or some others, but it's, it's just been really rewarding and learned a lot more about myself and just, it's been cool. But when I think about like, you have one million followers, is there any crazy interactions or any stories that just stick out along the way since you kind of have the followers? I mean, every day something weird happens. Really? Every day something weird happens. I get, you get both ends, right? You get, you get the person who logs in and is like, they just choose violence that day and they're just like, I'm going to find the first video I could find today and I'm just going to insult them and just rip people to pieces. And you know, I'm a creator of content. I'm an otherwise employed person, you know? But I'm also a dude who grew up in Jersey. So I don't. Correct. I play like that. So I, so I throw back, I absolutely throw back. I have zero problem getting, getting fishy in the comments, but then you have the other end of it where you have some of the most amazing people reach out to you. Absolutely. And they tell you, you know, I just went through my fifth round of chemo and I sit in bed every night and I watch, I start at the bottom of your playlists and I scroll through. And I was burned in a fire and I have burns all over my hands and I make my friends scroll your videos for me. I'm like, how is this real? This isn't real. Who? That obviously I do my best to get in touch with some of those folks. And I have an entire saved album on my phone. One is like fan appreciation where they leave like cool comments and other ones where I get the emails. I'm just, every time I get a little, a little hokey, you know, the mind starts drifting a little bit. I just go right back in and I'm just like, I'm here. I'm doing this for a reason. There's a reason. It's about a man. That's awesome. What I've always said to myself was, you know, find something you love, do it for good. And in a string, it's a strange, it's a strange way to feel, it's a strange way to feel like you're contributing. But at the end of the day, those people can't be wrong. Their feelings are valid. So I'm proud to be able to be a part of it, even just a small part of it. You know, it's an accomplishment that I never thought that I would have. But when I was going back, we're in 2026, 10, 11 years ago, when I was 100% positive that I was going to spend the rest of my life serving tables at Applebees. You know, it's like, I, and listen, I'm all for a good two for 20, okay? No, heck yeah. You know, I'm all, listen, no, I'm, listen, but when I started there, there was no two for 20s. There were no trios. There was no breakfast or lunch. Thank you. And none of that time. You know, oh, so good to know my name was so much better, so much better. Oh my God. I want you to start telling people they can have an entire lunch for freaking $7. Thanks. Appreciate it. But when I, when I felt like I was completely stuck there and then I just, you guys ever see the movie waiting, ever see that movie? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Where he's like, I made up my own penis showing game and he's like, oh, so you quit. That's, that's literally what I did. One day I walked in and I'm like, bro, I'm leaving. I'm like, what do you do? And I'm like, I have no idea. I just, I just know it's not going to be this anymore. I can't do this. Yeah. I can't work at another restaurant. And then, and then security at a, at a giant facility where the kitchen manager quit and that I became the kitchen manager there, it was, oh my God. Just what I thought I was out there. Pull me back in. Like, what am I supposed to do? But, but yeah, once all that changed and I was like, I'm, I'm going to go into responder life. And that's when I feel like I started really contributing. You know, I felt like I was actually making some sort of difference, you know? So you kind of, you kind of touched on it a little bit before in the intro where you were talking, but how do you, how do you balance being consistent with your content and doing all the editing and stuff, but also doing a full time job? So I'm very blessed to be on, on the ambulance during very early mornings. And I'm at the police department very late at night. So my, I do six, six, eight of six p normally on the ambulance when I ride. And then I do six p to six a police department. Both are in relatively small towns. So I'm not hyper busy. It affords me a little bit of time when I have leeway to knock out a couple of little things. I don't record there, but I'll be able to knock out some editing. It'll be on my phone anyway. I'll edit. I'll throw my computer up. I'll cross post stuff. I have a little setup that I make and then once, when stuff starts to get a little hairy, you know, everything shuts. We shift. We get into, into hardcore focus mode. We knock everything out that we have to. I'm the only person in the dispatch office. I, when I'm at EMS, I literally go upstairs to like this, uh, no fire departments have like banquet halls and type of deal. This was kind of, like, it has a pool table that was definitely used for something back in the day. Um, just not anymore. Now it's actually believe it or not. It's actually a zoom by studio, which is really cool. They have a mirror set up and it's like covered with blankets when it's not, when it's got for bed. If I just looked up and just saw myself all day, I'd freaking lose my mind. But I kind of make a little makeshift office up there when tones drop, you know, light is green, trap is clean, we're freaking out the door. And, uh, but other than that is that that's, uh, that's kind of the easiest, easier of the two because I have my own full own space. Everybody else is usually downstairs in the common area. I just kind of commandeered desks upstairs or a table and I pull it out over. I saw myself up a little, a little L shape and just heart knock it stuff out. I look like I belong there. It's like, the count shipping you receive. Uh, well, you have, you have the proper lear out, uh, whatever I was there. How's it, how's it been a new dad? Oh, man, it's, there, there is nothing like it. It's, it's the craziest, most frustrating, most rewarding time of your life. And she's, she's a beautiful little nine month old right now and she just, uh, she just makes you smile at the craziest times. You know, you're just sitting there and you, and she'll scream and yell and you're getting frustrated. And, you know, you, oh God, how do I, how do I, how do I make it stop? How do I make the screaming stop? And then it balances out when, when she's smiling at you and just, uh, it's, you know, as a, I'm 43 now. So as a, as a 43 year old first time dad, it's a little kind of, kind of kooky. But I mean, there's, there is no greater accomplishment and no greater joy in my life than wake it up and see in that little face. She's just, her, and not for nothing. She's like 92% me. So like, yeah, she looks like 92% me. It was nice in my wife to show up, but, but, uh, we asked this, she's amazing. And it's, it's great watching her grow up. Obviously I miss when she was, you know, upacagno, but, uh, we just gave her a bath upstairs and, you know, it's just doing all the cool dad things, you know, I just, I'm, and it's a girl like I have a little, little sweet little girl. I was so excited to be a girl dad. I think that would be so cool. It's just so, it's super rewarding. You know, plus I know all the crap those boys do. Stupid boys. So crap, please. Yeah. So I agree with everything you're saying. I, uh, you know, I think if I could do anything different, I was a little older. My first child, but, uh, I wish I would have taken more time when they were first born, take a more time off. Just a little bit kind of way to kind of acclimate. But yeah, you know, it's, it's the dopest. Yeah, it really is. I took, um, gosh, 10. I think that's like 10 weeks. And, uh, you know, that, that transition from two of us to three of us is, it's a trip. You know, you're, you know, now you're not, now you're not sleeping. Now you're not, now you're not anything. You're, you're not, you went, you're a zombie. You're a walking zombie. You're a butterfly. You're a butterfly. You literally, you literally are. You're waking up. What does that mean? Every three hours you're like, wake up child. That's sleeping soundly for you must feed. And it's like, it's such a bad idea. Why are we doing that? It was so bad. Why she's so, she's so sleepy. Yeah. You're like, it's time to feed you. Ah, ah, ah. Oh, good. You're about as excited for this as I am. That's great. But now she's, she's wonderful. It's such a cool thing. It really is. That's awesome. Well, congratulations. Thank you so much. I've been kind of dabbling in Josh. And I would say we're more dabbled, but we, we kind of get on the hospital. We're not the social media thing, and content. Have you ever posted something that you're like, ah, man, I don't know. But yeah, I'm a post. And then it just takes off. - Yeah, the other way around, where you're going to be as fire and it just doesn't hit. - Oh yeah, 100%. (laughing) Let me tell you, it goes very, the sh*tty video you put out. You're gonna be like, this is so dumb. This is so, I'll give you, I'll tell you what, I'll give you a perfect example. I have that one video, it's like a car hitch, like a hitch, the narration's like, and the toe hitch comes out of the bumper. It's like a little automatic toe hitch that comes out and it's just one of the no videos. So dumb, it's just so stupid. And I reaped, so my videos were like 15,000 views. Nine, like they were in the toilet and then I just reposted that. My, do I post that video two years ago? Reposted it, five million views. I'm like, oh my gosh. - I'm like, for a freak, it'll wipe. (laughing) I mean, he doesn't have that much when I posted it originally. What is this? It just woke up. And that's what are the dumb ones. And then on the other side, you have the, the rants, like the full minute and a half long rants that I do. So those rants came along because originally TikTok was only gonna pay you if your video was under 10 seconds, which is why the no videos are only 10 seconds long. So I would take all these jokes and I thought we're fucking hilarious. And I would stack them in the comments. Right, I would just put this giant rant and get it 'cause it kept you on the video. I thought I was slick. I thought I was slicky-bob. Well, then TikTok was like, oh, we're gonna actually pay you decent money. I'm like, oh, that's cool, but your videos have to be a minute longer. And I was like, well, crap, because they're not. So I just basically took that caption. I started narrating that caption. And that's where the rant came in. I'm like, okay, I'll act out like I'm doing a rig check. And I'll just go through it. I'll shut the doors and bop-a-bop all that stuff. And just recently, I was able to get back to the ambulance. I took a much longer time off the ambulance than I did from the police department. 'Cause that's a per-dem job. I'm able to kind of, they're very lenient with me. They're very caring and considerate. (laughs) I was able to get there and I knocked out one of the videos and I was like, oh, it's so good to be back doing this if you'll create it again. I'm ranting, I'm alliterating. I'm like, this is so much fun. It got like 15,000 views. And I was like, that is embarrassing. Like, what just happened? Like, this was such a good, I was so pumped for it. And then I reposted it across everything. It did kind of okay on the other platforms. Facebook hates when I put long stuff out. They just hate it. I think my watch time on Facebook, if it's over 12 seconds, they're like, you should probably just stop. You should just stop. But TikTok, you're supposed to love me TikTok. But yeah, so that's, it happens all the time. It's those videos. That's why I tell people all the time, put the video out, just make the content. If you're worried about becoming a creator, if you want to become a creator, and you don't know what to do, if you're, if you are foregoing the good in pursuit of the great, just stop. Just make the content. I promise eventually it'll hit. And when you make the content, it let you, it teaches you how to edit. It teaches you how to put music. It teaches you what, it teaches you, it's hashtags and all that. Yeah, it teaches what your audience likes, teach you what your audience doesn't like for sure, because let me tell you, people are quick to tell you what they like, but they are way faster to tell you what they don't like. I got to kick the hornet's nest this last weekend. (laughing) When we were changing, you could Photoshop that flag on top of the Empire State Building. Oh no, yeah. So I did an Iowa sucks post, and it just, they got a little upset. Yeah, a little salty. A little salty and a little attitude in there. Yeah. I'm getting all these notifications. Like, what is happening? (laughing) Our Instagram seems to be blowing up, guys, wait, it's not for the better, you know, Ron. (laughing) Ron. So other than badge 502, what are some of Anthony's hobbies, interest, or passions outside of social media? Well, what did Julie Ardo have a little bit? (laughing) So I may, I may, I go to the range, love going to the range and sending some rounds down range. I love to, I'm a big reader. I genuinely just love spending time with my little girl. That's taken up so much of, taken up so much of my time, if you will, but like, it's time that I would, I would never want to give anyplace else. We game, I, we game a little bit. I've been getting into some like wind rows, been playing a little piratey games, stuff like that. I used to play a whole bunch of Call of Duty and stuff like that. Now I just jam a little bit of Fortnite with the guys. I'll jump with the Discord, grab a couple of people, we'll jump on Fortnite, just have a big ol' goofy time. And then that was like growing the socials, trying to, trying to get the YouTube work in the way I wanted to and all that good stuff and just, just trying to be a better version of myself than I was. You know, I have, I've made, I've never made any secret about the fact that I was kind of a, for lack of better words, if the sensors, if the, if our sensors are working, now's the time to, to activate, right, press the button, but I make no, no hesitation about telling people that I was a bit of a shipper for a long time. And I'm just, every day, just trying to be just a little bit better. And sometimes I fall backwards on it, but for the most part, I try to, try to 1% every day. But yeah, I love to, like to go to the range, put holes in paper, read a bunch, go for, go ahead, head out of the beach, take rides in the car, just get out, try to, try to develop my piece, the best I can. I'm a big, big proponent of establishing my piece in my boundaries and stuff like that. So it's just kind of nice. Sometimes, it's nice, honestly, sometimes I just do nothing. I don't really have a whole lot of nothing time, you know, that's the best. Sometimes, you know, I can, I'll come home from work at six, I get home like six, 15 in the morning, say, and you know, I can go to sleep, but I won't. I'll come downstairs. I'll have a cup of coffee. Doesn't keep me awake anymore. So I'll come downstairs. I'll read, you know, scroll the news, play a little star-do or something, hang out and just relax for a little bit and take it down. Then try to wake up slow if I can. Yeah. Is there any, whether EMT dispatcher, and I know whatever, but is there any misconceptions or anything out there that you need to clear up around, you know, that, that, I guess, upper version? Something that you'll hear all the time, especially if you make 911 related mental health content for EMS-related health content is people will comment, and this happens all the time. Well, that's what you signed up for. Or if you can't handle it just quit. Well, no, that's not the point. And that's when people say a lot, when people say that people sleep on mental health, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Because people think, could you imagine if every time something affected a responder mentally, that they just quit, you'd, first off, you'd have no responders. Yeah. You'd have people disappearing off the planet. So I think one of the biggest misconceptions about EMS is that the stuff that we see, we aren't allowed to be affected by. And if we voice out about it, we are now weaker for doing that. We're not weaker for doing it. We're stronger for doing it. And people on the internet who, I, listen, I get it. To 99.5% of the people out there, I'm just a bunch of pixels on a screen. I'm not real. I don't exist. I'm just correct. I'm just a beep-boop-op-boop. I get it. I'm not supposed to feel, you know, with a concealed don't feel whatever else it said. Yeah. And that's just not, that's not the case of it. You know, you, you're allowed to feel, you're allowed to emote, you're allowed to be affected by things. You're just not allowed to quit. Yeah. You have to figure out what works for you, what's cathartic for you. But I would say that one of the biggest misconceptions is that we don't, either that we don't feel or that we're not allowed to feel. Because trust me, we feel a lot of stuff. You know, and it's, it's important that you do. Yeah. Feel your feelings people. Be mushy. Be mushy. It's great. Girls love it. And the Josh and I both been first responders at even times in what have you and we have a lot of people in our life that certainly are. And I think sometimes it's getting better. But I think that that misconception, whether it's men's been a health or just even first responders and those kind of things, I think we're starting to see a lot more come around that and support that and be open to that. But how many people in my profession that we've lost just because there was no attention given to it or that kind of attitude itself? It's true. It's the truest. And it's, it's unfortunate because at the end of the day, you are, you're trapped in that head. You know, there's, you can't get away from it. So you either have to know what you can handle and decide at that point, do you want to continue doing what you're doing? Because you have that option too. You can leave the profession. You know, that's an option or figure out how to get the help you want. But what drives me absolutely crazy is when people tell me, oh, you, this is what you signed up for. No, man, I didn't sign up to get abused mentally. That's not true. I'm looking at my paperwork right now. I mean, you say, let's say, don't canoe, don't canoe with your coworkers and don't steal pr-- No, nothing here. There's nothing here about that. Sorry. I think one of the best things that have happened lately is a lot of like first responders military. They've been doing more training for you to notice more for your teammates, like to actually reach out to them and how to talk to them. So like in a correction. feel that's like a big push is like taking care of each other. So yeah. Yeah, you need to have each other's back. I'm the mental health resource officer for my department. And while that does not mean I'm a therapist, I might need two or three of them, but I am not one. I am a resource, have her and get her, if you will. If I have the leeway to be like, hey, Steve, talk to you for two seconds. That last call was kind of hokey. You good? Yeah, yeah, I'm good. I listen. Not saying you're not good. If you want to have a chat, let's have a chat. I'll be over here, I'll be in the office. Neymate, let's chat. They come to you. Look, you can talk to me. You can talk to the captain. You can talk to anybody. You don't even have to talk to anybody who's hired. They're talking to someone to lower than you. Who cares? If you need resources outside of that, come in the office. I have a binder, binder, O-papers, and we'll get it. And it's like, need everybody's different, that's awesome. I call it my own f*cky book. I'm like, who go in there? We'll not get out, guys. We'll take care of you. We'll take good care of you. That's awesome. That's important. You got to take care of your people. So in your profession, if somebody's listening to this right now and they're on the fence about doing some type of first responder work, what's like a, what's the, what's the good piece of information or advice that you would give them? So I started off, I was very lucky. The town, two or so towns away from me, they're a volunteer agency. They're a volunteer door in the night, paid during the day. I joined the volunteer department. I'm still on the volunteer department. I won't leave them because they took good care of me, so I will take good care of them. If you have the ability to go in and volunteer first, one, no, you're helping your community. That's good. And two, you're going to get training that you otherwise would not have received prior to EMT school, right? They will teach you. They will bring you on calls. You'll go on calls. You won't touch anything really for the most part of it. You'll carry the bag in or something, but you'll see, you'll observe. You won't be learned, you won't really learn by doing, but you'll learn by seeing. You'll, they'll drill you. They'll teach you. And when you go to EMT school, when I went to EMT school, I'm not in the joke and there are many people who were like, I thought you were the teacher. I walked in in my volunteer department uniform and had just come from my school started at 7 a.m. I had just gotten off the truck at 6 a.m. And I was like, that's good. I'm going to school. I'm still in. So I go to school in the uniform and they're just like, I thought you taught here. Like you look like you would teach here. I'm like, that's because I'm old. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm fine with that. But I went in there and I was just like, I'm going to learn everything that I can. And then I think I was there for maybe six, six, six months. And they're like, you're doing great. You want to do what you want to do? But mind you, these people who I went to school, they didn't touch a stair chair. They didn't touch a backboard. They didn't touch crevettes. They didn't touch blood pressure cuff. They didn't touch stethoscope. Nothing. They had no hands on experience. Meanwhile, I could take a blood pressure from anybody. I could take a blood pressure without my stethoscope and be within 10. I'm like, let's do this. I got this. I got this chair, which freaks everybody out because you're carrying it. You were being downstairs for the first time ever. I had done that 50, 60 times. So I was like, not worried, not concerned, not scared. And then we would just take it from there. So if you have the ability, I would say go through a volunteer organization. Plus, they paid for my EMT school, which is not bad. That's 17, 18, 19 hundred bucks, whatever it is now, who knows. What was funny about when I went to EMT school was when I graduated. I was right in this cusp where they had stopped sending and mailing out EMT cards. Because you have to have your card with you and you have to have your CPR card with you. All it comes with, it just in case board of health stops you. You got to be able to be like, the Ludalus multi pass, you know? And I appreciate that. And they weren't sending them out. I was like, well, I need that. So then I get on the email about, like, oh, yes, yes, yes, don't worry. We're switching over to a digital system and they're going to be on the website. I was like, okay, so it's on the website. He's like, well, I didn't say that. They're going to be on the website. I was like, oh, okay, why? He's like, well, we're not sure. I was like, can I get an EMS card, bro? I just get one of these things. He's like, yeah, yeah, don't worry about it. I got you. I said over. Yeah, I was just giving my patch. Yes, you just give me something, man. But yeah, it's a good feeling when you go in there. When you had, because we already had our uniforms, obviously, I mentioned I walked into EMT. I walked into school with my uniform on. I had my black polo. It's actually my badge 502 polo matches my volunteer uniform. So it's the same look just what it wasn't too far off because I had started with my volunteer uniform. Don't do that. But I could not suggest going to a volunteer agency more. And it's great because you give them back to your community. Service to others. Yeah. Service to others is the rent that you pay for your room here on earth. So yeah, help your community out. Well, and you've covered a lot throughout your career and a lot of the perspective, whatever that is. Is there been any moment in your career thus far where you're just, it's really, really changed your perspective on life in general? Yeah, people are not nearly as caring as you would grow up thinking that they are. I've gone to houses with sick moms and the kids don't care. I've gone to houses with parents who are going to be transported to hospital and we know, we know it's probably for the last time. And these kids are just on their phones and just goofing around. And I'm just like, you don't get it. I'm like, you don't get it. There's rose colored, the amount of rose colored glasses that I've walked into is crazy. But then you have the other side where it's like you have some of the most compassionate people. If I'm on a call and you, you know, somebody fell and they bump, they, you know, bang their head, go to their bleed and they're unconscious. They're in and out of consciousness. People that come in, they take their shirt off, they put pressure on people. You know, it's, so it does again. It's one of those things that goes both ways where you're like, okay, faith in humanity, restored type of deals. But then again, there's always that one person who's always said, what's your off? Always like guy who's like, well, I'm like, bro, you do do do less say less. Skidaddle. We got this. But as far as changing your aspect on life, you know, on just overall existence, I mean, there's no better feeling than when somebody calls the ambulance, they're calling it because that that man eat this and even if they need it, just need a ride, right? Even if they don't want to drive themselves to the hospital. At that moment, they're calling it because they're, they need something that they cannot provide themselves. And it's both a blessing to be able to be on that call or on call for that. And it's a privilege to be able to do it because, you know, one day I'm not going to be able to do it. So I may as well take care of the people that I can while I can before, you know, some, some not knows a little 25 year old dragon me out of my house, you know, if we can try to lift me out of my wheelchair. I'm just having a lot of my law that just 30 years. Yeah. Just blanking. So dragony out the door. So I can look over at them and be like, you know, I was an empty for 30 years and they could be like, that's great pops. That's hilarious. You know, you know, you have. Yeah. I was, I was a, I was like fire chief for 22 years. I was like, that's great. Here's your, here's your teeth. And we're going to get out of here. I'm not getting in that thing. Yeah. Yeah, the hell you aren't. So if you get to the medicine here for some night night juice and believe me, you'll get wherever we want. Yeah. So we got a little rapid fire quiz for you. There's going to be two options. You just pick, pick whatever one feels right. Choose with my heart or my head. Gotcha. All right. First question. What would you rather do CPR or the Heimlich? So I don't think I've ever performed the Heimlich on a call. I've done it in school. I've done it. Yeah, I think, I think, I mean, CPR is you just crank it away. You know, you're, you're hoping for the best. The Heimlich can turn into the CPR. So at the very least, see, at least the Heimlich, at least I'm, I'm preempting what could be the CPR. So let's go with the Heimlich because I can get a good strong. I got good, I got good, I got good back muscles. I can get that go. Yeah. What would you prefer? Well, I'm not prefer, but feel more comfortable going on a trauma call or a medical call. Oh, baby, I'm an EMT, baby, trauma life. I'm a trauma junkie. I will put medical calls. There's only 95% of the time. There's only three things you can do medically, right? It's cold steel hot lights and diesel fuel. We're going to get you someplace. I tell people, O2 and trans, that's it. Scoot, boot man, O2 and trans, but I get on scene. Hey guys, what's going on? I'm with the ambulance. What's going on? Oh, it's been having some difficulty breathing. Okay. Anything make it better or worse? Okay. What hospital do you want to go to? I have three questions. There's 30 questions I'm supposed to ask. No, let's, you want to go? Let's get out of here. Trauma. I will put you back together. I will, let's, let's, let's get out of here. Yeah, you jacked yourself up. Let's fix this. Let me tell you about my friend Traction. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Exactly. I will yank bones all day, baby. Freaking. You need a split. I mean, what happened? You broke your ankle? Where's your best pillow? Yeah. Yeah. Because you ain't getting mine. You ain't getting my best pillow. I'll take your best pillow. Yeah. You know, but yeah, trauma trauma is an EMT's wheelhouse, man. We'll put you back together. We're like, oh my god, if you did what? You know, I went to a call some guy. It's not really fair because the department that showed up before us. us, fire showed up and they kind of put this guy's, they packaged this guy's foot so tight and so well, they did a great job, the fire department which I, you don't even say that often, but they did a great job. We got there and it was a guy who had his foot backed over by a fork lift at a, at a bread company, bread factory. And he's sitting there, he's, I'm like, where's the patient? And he was kind of sitting on an angle, his foot was away from us. And I'm like, this guy's just sitting there just bullshitting the fire department, buh buh buh buh buh. And we walk in and he's like, we're like, where's, where's the patient? They said he was back here. And he's like, oh, that's me and he turns and there's like this one, like imagine Mickey Mouse hand on his foot. I'm like, I was like, oh, okay, you don't jack. She was like, it's like a Ronald McDonald shoe on his foot. I'm like, all right, I'll assume and that's fine. He's like, he has like it's throbbing. I was like, oh, good. Throbbing is good. That's a heartbeat. He's a heartbeat. If it stops throbbing, let me know. Just like, get out of here. Let me go. I'll try my all day. Not that I wish anything bad. Like that on somebody. I'll try my all the coffee or energy drinks or something. I will, I'll sip an energy drink every so often, but I'm a coffee guy. You know, and I, it's obviously, I'm a first responders. So obviously, you know exactly how I drink my coffee. I'm a gronday or venty flat white with an extra shot of espresso with sugar free French vanilla and two Splendor kind of guy. So, so obviously, you know, it's my, my, my, the, yeah, coffee. Yeah, I'm not just by be I coffee that I drink all the time. All right. This is an important one. gloves on before or after you and introduce yourself. Oh, so, so this is a me thing. I'm an elbow bumper. So I've always just been, even when I was working at the other jobs, go on guys. My name's Anthony. Yeah. Fume a little bot. So my gloves go on on the way into the house. Yeah. On the way. And that's, and then somebody else opens, if somebody else is opening the door. Somebody else is not opening the door. One gloves on doors open. Yep. The glove goes on. We're party. Nice. All right. Turn a kid or pressure dressing. What's happening to him? Is he spurtin? Yeah. If he spurtin, I'll turn a kid. Yeah. Unless it's not spurt. Where unless it's not in a limb, then I got a pressure. But turn a kid's are interesting. We went on a call where it was rough. He ended up losing his leg. He crashed his motorcycle hit a guard rail. So if I let me tell you, he was stunk. He's a stunter and he still stunts with one leg. He's still stunts. I follow his Instagram. He doesn't think he knows I follow his Instagram. That's okay. I'm sure he is. Yeah. He's really good at it too. But yeah, we, I had to turn a kid as like three times. It was crazy. It was rough. But we got it. And I was, you know, we didn't get, you know, an acrotic or anything like that. He had to get amputate. But he's, you know, he kept, he kept enough of the red stuff. He know the rules, man. Red stuff. Red stuff goes round and round. Air goes in now. Any deviation. You need to, you need to figure that out. Yeah. So yeah, I'll turn a kid's if I can if I need to, if I can't control the bleeding with pressure, I'll start with pressure. But if I can't control with that, then we're going to, we're going to acclude that limb. Because now my limb, you can't have it back. Take a little, take a little pinky of blood right the time on your forehead. Just so we can. Yeah. Right on the, right on the forehead. Like Simba. Yeah. Simba. What's your favorite piece of everyday carry gear when you're on the reg? Ooh, when I'm on, when I'm on the ambulance. But probably my raptors. So if you've ever seen, if you watched my videos, I always have my raptors right here. So this is so bad. It's for two reasons. Right. One, I want to have quick access. Okay. So I need to cut something years off, right? Except for Biker jacket. So I never cut anybody's Biker jacket. Oh my God. Please don't do that. I have, I have four, I have four letters in the, in my garage. Right. I got four, four Biker jackets in the car. Nice ones. I have like an Alpine. I have a Dessonate Jesus. I have a Dine Z. Like a couple of really nice ones. You cut my fucking jacket off. I'll scream in pain. What do you take? I should take it off. Please don't take my jacket. But two, if you flip those shears open, now you have a scissor that you can kind of hold like a pen great for tap it on a tough book, man. Great. That's the best implement for tap it on a tough book. But those are probably my interests. What is the hardest vital sign for you to find? Depending on the person, either a break you'll, right? Either a break you'll pulse over in the car in the corner of your bicep here because a lot of people, it's just hard to find that bad boy. Or sometimes a pital pulse, especially the top of the foot like a plant or pital, pulse. Those could be a little tough. Conditions have to be right, especially if they have a break, because now you're worried about them losing PMS. So I'm like, okay, I need to get a pulse on the foot. I'll go back by the Achilles and I'll try and get it. I'm like, I don't feel it. I don't think I feel it. And then you go to the top of the foot and you're like, I don't think I, I don't think I feel it. I'm trying real hard not to be the guy that has to yank on that foot, man. I know what I do. But if sometimes I'll have to give her a yank and I'm like, okay, okay, we found it. All right, we got it. You're pulsing. It's like, then my body will be like, you probably could have found that without doing that. Trying to figure out whether it's your thumb pulse or not. Exactly. Oh, it's the worst. You're sitting there and you're pushing, you're pushing hard right between that muscle. And I'm like, do I feel that in my index? Or do I feel that in my thumb? I don't know. I've taken, I've taken my stethy, I've taken my stethy and try to get a pulse. So I'm like, sucks. But last one, lights in sirens transport or quiet transport. So it depends. I would tell everybody to abide by their department's policy. Every call, I don't care if you say, oh, my grandpa fell. He's fine. He's on the floor. He just can't get back up and we just need help getting him back into the bed. Well, I'm sorry. I can't see your doctorate. So I'm going to go there as fast as I can because I don't know if he cracked his head on the way down. I don't have the reason that he fell is because he was lightheaded. And now we have a whole bunch of other problems. So I'm going there nice and quick on the way back on the way out once we assess something that we're all fine at that point. If you're good, if I can take it in normal speed, I would much rather because I'm honestly getting into the hospital two minutes faster. That's not going to save anything. It'll save something, you know, if I need doctors there shoving Epi and adrenaline just non-stop, then sure, that's that's a different story. I'll get you there real quick. We'll block off streets for you. But if I can, if I can take a take a slow ride, I'll take a, I don't mind a slow ride. I'd rather cook it a little bit. Everybody, everybody likes to whoop. We all like to whoop whoop. I wouldn't even pretend like I don't like the whoop whoop. But if I have the ability to take just a slow ride, you know, keep it mellow, keep keep your auto service a little bit longer. Sorry, I had a quarter, we're going to be back in town, back in service. Hold me out for DeCon. We'll advise when we're clear and available. You know, we got a decon, the ring for 45 minutes. We got a restock. Yeah, we got to go down to, we got to go down to County and restock. Yeah, that is not a county. What does that even mean? What's that county? So, what is next for badge 502? Like what do you got in the works, collaborations, goals that you've set for yourself that you're charging for? Just because, just because I'm an even numbers kind of guy, like I would love to see the socials all hit a mill. I would love that. There's not a creator alive who's going to be like, I don't care. I don't forget. You know, we all want to see it, right? Everybody wants it. But at the end of the day, it's where we're, we're nice and comfortable. You know, I'm incredibly privileged to be able to work with some of the best creators on the planet. I'm, I'm just super lucky. What I would love to see is the 502 reviews channel take off because that's a little bit outside of what I normally do. Yeah. It's so hot in this room right now. I would love to see that channel take off because Body Camp Footage is so much fun. I've never been, I've never been a cop. So it's hard for me to like, I won't comment, commentate on like shootings or stuff like that because I can't really speak to tactics. But I can bust balls better than anybody. I know I could be fun at anybody relentlessly to the point of tears. So when I find these like, so when I find these calls for people who are like DUIs that go sideways and I have a, I have a freaking hard offer DUIs anyway, because I don't like people who drive drunk. But when I see those calls or people who like, like, Oh, sovereign citizen calls. Oh, you give me a good savvy. You give me a good savvy, bro. I will demolish you. Like, oh my God. We'll see here all day. May funny. So hopefully, hopefully people find that brand of humor fun. I love watching the car. Camps too. Oh, we're kids. So good. Yeah. It's so good. There's a, there's the one judge I can't, I can never remember his name. But he, um, is a guy with the bow tie. It, we got both. He's my fair. He's my favorite bow tie. Oh, he's so good. And then there's the, I can't remember what her name is. She's from San Antonio. She's like the nice proper judge and she just gives it to him. She gives him, gives it to him hard. Man, there's the, the one, the one black judge. He's real, yeah, real slender. So far, he just sends it. He's like, I don't, I don't, I hear what you're saying, but I have to, I need you to know I don't care what you're saying. It's like, yeah, you can say that. Can I say that? Yeah. He's like, you're doing a lot of this. Um, but I know it's, it's, uh, I would love to see that channel take off. Um, right now we're working on watch hours to legitimize the page. We already have the follow counting that pages at like 20, really 25,000 somewhere in there. That's a lot, that's a lot, 25,00. You have to have 2,000 in order to hit the follow threshold to get your page legitimized. But then you have to hit 4,000 watch hours. So we're chipping away at that. It's at like 1,600 right now. Baby steps, you know, the hard part of all that is starting over. I feel like you're starting over. You know, but yeah, I would love to do that. I'd love to travel more. I have a couple of ideas where-- so one idea that I started tossing around, but I was never able to get off the ground, but I still think I want to, is a lot of people like to go to firehouses and do station tours and stuff like that. And I kind of like watching those, but then I got a little jealous because something sounds pretty nice. Have you ever seen like South Metro Fire Rescue? Have you ever seen the South Metro guys? Take a minute. Well, first off, if you love all this trucky stuff and appa-rad-- oh, dude, just-- they have a large coverage area. They have all the toys. But yeah, South Metro Fire Rescue-- amazing channel. And it sounds like you want to-- It sounds like you kind of want to do like a crib for firehouses. So what I want to do is I want to go to Big Scale EMS. So I want to go to like Giant Stadium, F1 Tracks, and watch how they do EMS. Because that-- Listen, there's a very big difference between Johnny falling off his bike in a car crash into a wall of 200 miles an hour. So I want to see how these guys come in and see how these guys do it and follow their crew around. And keep it hip a safe. Also, for those of you on the interwebs, hip a doesn't have two peas. Stop that. Stop that. It's not the accountability act. But yeah, I think that would be a lot of fun, going to like Talladega and just being like how does that EMS crew work? Or going to like the Isle of Man and seeing how these guys do it on there. Because those guys are whizzing around freaking neighborhood streets at Mach Jesus. And it's like some of these guys are going to end up in your breakfast cereal. So it's like-- Just how do you eat red bull? Literally, just how do you EMS that? Who knows? Maybe even follow a red bull spit. Yeah. I think that'd be a lot of fun. And you know, you get your frequent flyer miles up a little bit. Maybe I can take a trip to Tahiti in my brain or something out. But I think that'd be a lot of fun. I started talking to a couple of people about that. I love to do things like this. This is like the better part of my day is when I get to just come and hang out. That's awesome. Like my new creators who just want to do good things and have a good time, love the thing that they're doing. Because I do what you love, do it for good, enjoy it. You get one trip on this rock. You only get so many rotations. Someone wants to only have 80 summers. So I try to do the best I can inside of them. But we appreciate it. And you're welcome on here anytime. And for sure. I appreciate it. I got to tell you, it was an absolute pleasure to meet you. And finally get you on the show. And I hope we can catch up down the road, check in on you, or maybe have a collab sometime. Yeah, man. I'll tell you what, man, it's an absolute pleasure. We appreciate you taking the time. Oh, yeah, man. Absolutely. I'm happy to come down anytime you like, anytime. I'm happy to be here, brother. Josh was great meeting you, RJ. You too. Yeah, you guys are absolutely-- Absolute aces. Thanks a lot of you as well. Do you guys-- Do you guys have any final words for your audience? [LAUGHS] Oh, gosh. Put me on the spot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I play no games. This is how the pros do. I put the host on the spot. Yeah, no kidding. Wait, who's Joe Whizzley? No, I got to tell you. Honestly, you said something earlier about the kids on their phones. And it's just something that I've had a chance to take a step back. And I'm trying to do some content. Now, just let it go a little bit. But people-- I think people are learning too much from their phones and not enough from other people or being outside or being with round other people. And what kind of that-- well, like I want to do content and whatever, just when you put the phones down and spend time with our loved ones and whatever. And there's a time for all that. But yeah, just when you share that story, that kind of shook me. And so yeah, that's kind of what I want to leave with is just put your phones down. Yeah, touch grass. Enjoy it. Let the dirt get between your toes. Yeah, I just want to-- we've been kind of on a crazy ride lately. So we've had you on now. And we had Blue Collar Corey, which is another pretty wild ride all in itself. But we've had a lot of great music performers come on and just a lot of different things. And it's really humbling to know that people like you would take time out of your crazy schedule to come on and talk to us. Yeah. I would take time. I found you. I was like, hey, can I come play? Yeah, I got you. Hello. Josh and I feel very lucky because most of you, just when people are being creative, when you're at live music, when you're interacting and sharing things that make people laugh, and people smile, whatever, just-- that's the kind of stuff we want to be around. And not all the negativity that's out there in itself. For sure. And we're not going to wood. But Josh and I have not been disappointed very much on this show in a 140 plus episode. Excellent. And that's the stuff that a Shake is sticking at. Either 140 is a lot of time to be doing something. Yeah. But it's so much fun. And I said, just get in the do this and just get a little release and get away from things that we love it. Yeah. So-- I love that, man. That's important. It's important to do what you love. When I was considering and trying to figure out how I would close my podcast and close longer videos-- and I even have it right here. I'm sure you guys have seen the videos where people make fun of the fact that my tattoo says hard always. So just like my arm says, I tell people all the time, work hard. Be kind always. Do not forget to tell somebody that you love them. Say it often, man. Make it weird. You know, just tell your people that you love them because one day you won't be able to. You're going to be real mad that you aren't. So make sure you take time to tell the people in your life that you love them. Also, make sure to tell people that you don't like them too. Don't leave them out. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Listen here, Iowa. [LAUGHTER] Good. Listen. You seem like you know what you're talking about. But Jesus, you are a dick. You just get over. [LAUGHTER] Take time to take care of the people that take care of you. Because those are the people that are going to be there for you when you're zeroes. Yeah. Just make sure you tell your people that you love them. Best advice I can give anybody. Perfect. Thanks a lot, Anthony. Thank you, bud. Thanks a lot, Anne. You're welcome. Glad to know you. Thank you. I'm proud of you guys. Keep kicking. Yep. Have a good night. You as well, my brother. Bye. Have a good night, brother. [PHONE RINGING] Ah, did you see the little wing? Yeah. What a stud. I don't even know what to say, dude. That was probably one of the best interviews we've ever done. Yeah. Yep. I think we're just-- I think we do the review. And we let that stand alone because not only you don't have to listen along to immediately know that the person, Anthony, is. And he said a lot of things that really resonated with me and that I relate to, right? Yeah. It's kind of like this thought I had the other day about-- I was trying to think, man, if I had so much money, I didn't know what to do with it. Like, what would be the most fun I could have with it? And I just kept thinking about, you know why I want to be rich? I want to go out and see people smile. I want to see somebody-- Yeah. I tell Megan all the time that-- I watch a few YouTube channels that all they do is go around and do social experiments and pay for people's rent. And just go on their door. I'm just going to do that. I just do that. Just take care of people. Would that be an incredible life? Just to be able to do that? And just filling people's buckets all day. But it's not even about the money. It's just about like you go to different cities, states, areas, you know, different demographics. Hell, you go to middle class America. And you go tell someone that their house is paid off. Like-- Yeah. How incredible. Like $20,000 for most families would change their life. Oh, for sure. And not to get too far from our boy here. But you said a lot of things that really, really I connect with. And huge fan and much respect because-- Wow. I guess as well. I really have a lot to say. Yeah. Pretty incredible, dude. Just sitting here and listening to him talk about the EMT stuff. And it just took me straight back to when I was doing it in the Army and then my first got out of the Army. So I don't know. I think it might be time to dust off the old EMT shoes. Yeah, when he was talking to me about my current profession, I'm just like, "Yeah, nobody really asks if you're okay." And then if you are, I just took some time off to get some perspective and just kind of recharge batteries a little bit. But yeah, if you don't take care of yourself, man, it's hard. Those batteries don't want to recharge to full. You can't let them go. You can't let them drain down like that. I didn't expect to come away as inspired as I am right before I took some time. I was trying to get the professional content. I can't go on Instagram. I haven't really jumped fully back into that. And I've gone back and forth about quitting that five times. And man, I don't know, man. Be somebody that you want to, I'm somebody I'm glad to know. And I hope he's a friend of the show for a long time to come. For sure, if you guys are following Badge 502, make sure you guys follow the Dad's Man K podcast. Yeah, we're a lot alike. He is far more handsome, but you're going to like our shit. Yeah, he's more handsome than me, younger. I mean, technically, we're technically first responders and kind of frontline. But he does some of it for free. And I don't know. I can't keep up with him. He's got a million. All right. We're not going to try to compete. We're just going to try to help it our own little wage. Look at that. And the buses, we're loading the buses up. Who wants to go with us? Two, two. [LAUGHS] Welcome to the Brew Review brought to you by our friends at Stone Hollow Brewing. [MUSIC PLAYING] [CLICKING] [BIRDS CHIRPING] [BIRDS CHIRPING] [BIRDS CHIRPING] [BIRDS CHIRPING] All right, Josh. We're going to take a trip back to a White Elm Brewing Company. We just had one of the most epic interviews we've ever had on this show. And it's time for a beer, my bud. We can skip segments to all that stuff. But I got to help me some of this here and celebrate what a great interview that was. I think it's called a "Yeah," whatever. Yeah, whatever. I was really surprised though. The beverage you're about to enjoy, Josh, contains cinnamon, nutmeg, all spice, and natural pumpkin flavorings. Oh, boy. I know. I love pumpkin, but-- Yeah, I don't know. --i form. Yeah, well, there's a couple of things that makes me a little nervous. Number one, White Elm typically-- I think most of us we've done there more IPAs-- And the pumpkin, I didn't see that coming because there's not really any indication. But you don't love pumpkin, so I'm chopping at the bit, Josh. Yeah, also, huge shout out to White Elm. They're opening up that tap room in York now. Oh, they are. Yeah. It looks really nice, too. Really? Did they kick over somewhere? They built it. No, they were building it from the ground up. It just says tap room across the front. It has a bunch of cool brick exterior and stuff. It's really-- Oh, that's bad out. All right. Yeah. Want to check that out? 8% alcohol by volume, Josh. Does that scare you? Yeah, not as-- not as scared of that as I am this lid that's looking at me in the face. I just think this thing's going to explode at any second. Oh, really? Oh, yes, right. That's one of your jobs. OK. Now, if mine foam's over-- Oh. Oh, you're there. Oh, no. I think it's a guarantee it's going to happen. It's trying to foam over. Nope, it's just got to open it. We just got to roll-- oh, yeah. Yeah, it didn't really foam over. It was a little peter. Ooh, you can taste that pumpkin. Mm. Oh. I'm getting a lot of spice. A lot of nutmeg. I did get-- I am getting a little pumpkin, but I'm picking up a lot of spice, I think. Yeah. Sat-- sat nutmeg. Is that what it is? It's like when-- like eggnog. OK. That little spicy taste? Yeah. I'm looking at here. Keep cold, drink, fresh. 8%. That surprised me. I'm trying to see what this would be under. She said thick boys. Is this like a logger or-- Do it same? Does that-- does that mean pills, maybe? Man, a pilsner. Maybe, because it feels pretty light. It's just really-- A lot of ingredients, I think. There's a lot going on. Yeah. Let me check in on the drink of this, because sometimes I would take a-- kind of really. Yeah, I don't know, Josh. I'm very confused. I feel confused. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, whatever. I really like the pumpkin taste. I don't know. The nutmeg. It's a lot smoother. No, I'm like by 34 drink. Yeah. It's not terrible. It's not bad. I'm definitely going to drink it. But I-- you know, I don't know if this isn't my wheelhouse, so, buddy. Yeah. It's a lot different than anything else. We've ever had from White Elm. Yeah. Like, yeah, very, very-- and maybe that's, too. Like, my mind's kind of-- I don't know. But I was-- I was looking for that pumpkin. I got a little one nutmeg. But I don't know. I'm going to continue to drink this, because as we found out before, you know, the more I drink, I'm like, well, you know what? You know, because some of these are not made for like, you know, that this isn't their top seller or whatever. It's a special addition. And, you know, and I appreciate that. So, love the can, love the name. Anything that pumpkin, I'm for, but Josh, this is probably a-- It's the cinnamon that I'm tasting. I think that's all it is. Is it cinnamon? Yeah. Yeah. I think this is a six for me. Like, it's a good beer. I'm glad I tried it. And I don't have any like major complaints, but, yeah, it's just not my favorite. Yeah. I think this is more of like a winter, winter time beer. Kind of warm your belly up a little bit, sort of like a snow beast. Of course, that's what happened. It's all the humidity and be a 93. How dare we get this in the wrong season? Why did I put this in the rotation now? Actually, is your belly a little warm? It is. That's why I just said-- Is that the 8% or something? I know that. Or it's spiked. Oh, God, it's eating me from the inside. No. No. I wonder if that's the 8%. Yeah, maybe not. That's not that. I mean, it's not like super high, but yeah, my tummy. This is definitely-- I think I'm going to be right there with you. I think a six is a pretty good number for this. Yeah. Because I mean, I like the can. It's nice playing and the name is awesome. And of course, you can't beat that Elm Tree. So yeah, I don't mind it at all. I think we'd get some probably in the winter for a Husker game or something. Yeah. Good job, right now. All right, folks. A little different episode. We decided to dedicate more time to our guest. And boy, I'm so glad we did. Yeah. Anthony, Bad 502 Christian. Absolute honor and pleasure. And thank you for all you do. And keep on keeping on, brother, because you're doing a lot of good stuff. And really brought some stories to us today that-- Yeah. I don't know. Just kind of hit it a little-- hit it a little. Yeah. And then just-- I hope people listen to those words. Like, that's what you signed up for. It's just like the military. Like, oh, they got engaged with fire. I mean, well, that's what they're in the army for, or Marines. But it's just like when I-- like, today, there was an article on the news about four corrections officers being assaulted. Like, well, that's part of the job. No, it's not. It doesn't have to be. It's because you've made it so normalized that that's just what it is. But just make sure you're taking care of each other, boys and girls, and blue and gray and red and everything else. Just make sure you take care of each other. No matter what you do and for living, just take care of your work family and have each other's backs. For sure. All right. Anthony episode 140 out.