EP #134: Balancing Start-Ups & Stardom: Jahaan Ansari's Story on The Bachelorette

Welcome back to another episode of Everyday in Dorfins, a mental health podcast focused on the importance of finding joy and happiness and daily living. I'm your host Stella Stuffinapolis, and this week I am so excited to have Jahan and Sari who is a brilliant entrepreneur founder of the personalized protein powder nutrition company called Gamefall, and most recently it was a contestant on season 21 of the Bachelorette. So not only did we get to talk about the founding story behind Gamefall, lessons that he's learned through entrepreneurship, his own personal health and wellness journey, and how he takes care of himself and of course defines happiness, finds and Dorfins in his life. But we also got to dive deep into Jahan's experience, stepping outside of his comfort zone and being on the Bachelorette, how he navigated, basically having his love life be available to the public eye, and what he's been up to now since leaving the show. I'm really excited for you all to tune into this episode. Before we dive in, reminder to like, rate and review this podcast on whichever listening platform you prefer. And if you also want to try Gamefall for yourself, I have a discount code, it's in Dorfins, so just type in in Dorfins, for 30% off of your first order. So definitely try it out. It's delicious. I talk about it in this interview, but yeah, let's just get right into it. Happy listening everyone. Hi Jahan, thank you so much for coming on to Everyday in Dorfins. Thanks for having me, for your time. It's really fun to reconnect and when I initially wanted to interview you, the Bachelorette wasn't even, or maybe at least not to my knowledge, wasn't even like up in the air, like this was way before you were on the Bachelorette. So it's really cool to now be brought together again and to actually talk about this really interesting experience that you've had. And so I have a lot of questions, but I want to start off by having you share just a little bit about yourself with my listeners. I know that we met at a really interesting and fun wellness showcase with Jack Taylor back in October of last year, so it's been a while. But let's talk, you know, a little bit about your company Gamefall and in your founder story. Yeah, yeah, we met last year, I think it was October, and so this was way before the Bachelorette was even on my radar. Like when I set up my goals for 2024, falling in love on national television or trying to at least, was not online at my to-do list. So yeah, a little bit about Gamefall, I started it with my best friend from my high school seven years ago. We started it seven years ago, but yet the idea was born a few years before that. We were a co-campaigns of our high school soccer team, and so wanting to get the most out of our workouts and our nutrition. And of course, you know, as most high schoolers do, we go into a bottom store to get protein powder, and we see these crazy labels, these crazy tubs, and you know, when you pick it up, you see the ingredient lists and it has all these scary, sandy ingredients, and we have questions to ask. The only person to ask is this other high school store clerk who doesn't have a dietetics degree, and doesn't really have the knowledge or the background to help you get the most out of your self-mitation or your nutrition. And so when Eric and I teamed up, we wanted to bring expert guidance to the masses. And so the way we did that was we launched Gamefall, which was at the time, personalized protein powder, and you take a quiz, and we would formulate a blend for each user. And not only that, we'd also give them access to dietitians to answer any questions about the ingredients or about how to use it or their nutrition. And this was all done with the help of a science advisory board that came from a nutrition department at professional sports teams like the Golden State Warriors and Sacramento Kings. And so we really wanted to have this backed by science so that we're not just doing exactly what was happening in the GNC or the vitamin shops that we couldn't get the information that we needed. So yeah, that was seven years ago. It's been a long journey. We still got a lot of opportunity ahead of us, and Gamefall is more than just a personalized protein powder company now. It's a nutrition company for people to make the most of their daily performance. We have a wide range of products from protein powder to greens to pre-workout to hydration so that people can get the most whether it's out of the workouts, out of their work days, or just out of their life in general. And what we say at GNF is we want everyone to make their game, right? And we want to redefine the word "gains", and there's so much more to game in the world than just what you see in the mirror. You can gain confidence, you can enjoy, you can gain in doorfans, you can gain happiness. And so that's what we want everyone to do, and we think that GNF will end starting with your physical wellbeing, and your mental wellbeing, we'll set the stage for you to make that game, whatever it may be for you. Yeah, I like that idea of redefining what it means to gain something or have gains. I used to row in high school, so I was on a crew team, and that was the first time I ever did something that was super athletic. Growing up by dance, I did yoga, and then after high school, I didn't continue with rowing in college, but when you kind of transition out of competitive sports, you have to redefine your relationship to fitness and to exercise. And now, I'm realizing that I feel the most confident when I feel strong, and there's different ways to move my body that helps me feel strong and powerful. And I've recently started incorporating weights into my own workout routine, and I've also realized that you need to prioritize like eating and consuming protein in order to build more muscle and feel stronger. And there's so many like protein powder products on the market, and it is really hard to kind of filter through the noise. So what I really love about Gainful is that personalized component, but also I remember when we met months ago now, and I was sampling, we were giving out products at the showcase, and I sampled some of like one of the flavors. I think it was like the cinnamon toast crunch, if I got that right. Yeah, it was so good. And it tastes really good. Like it tastes like a lot of protein powder doesn't taste that good, but yours tastes really good. Totally. Flavors, absolutely something that we put a lot of emphasis on, like other than the nutritional aspect of it. I feel like flavors number two, because it doesn't taste good. You're not going to continue to use it, you're not going to get it get the most out of it. So we definitely put a lot of emphasis on flavors, and with our protein powders, you can change your flavor every day, so you can get a variety pack of little flip flavor steps. The protein comes on flavored, and that means every day you can have a different flavor, so you never get bored. You can have the cinnamon toast like you had, or the chocolate, or strawberry, and the list goes on. Yeah, I guess I was thinking cinnamon toast crunch, because I was thinking of the cereal, maybe that was a spark. It tastes kind of like the milk after the cinnamon toast crunch definitely. Yeah, absolutely. And when you decided to start this company, or at least, I guess you were in college at that point, and you recognized that there was a problem that you wanted to solve. How did your background and fitness and wellness and your own passions for well-being inform the desire to create this product, and also the journey that you've had over the past seven years, building gainful. So learn you, like I was an asking high school, I was also on the club, so obviously I met in college, so not at the varsity level, but in the club level. And so being physically fit, being the most out of my fitness has always been a part of my life, but it's never been the focal point. I've never been on Olympic athlete, I've never had aspirations, I was never that good. But I always found that starting my day with in the gym or on a run, just really sets me up for the rest of my life. And I feel like when you take care of your physical health and your mental health and your emotional health, you just become a better person overall. You're a better coworker, you're a better brother, or a better friend, whatever may be. And so I've always found it as never the focal point, but that underlying current that supports everything I want to do. Yeah, that's such a good point. And I've noticed too, when you prioritize those foundational aspects of your wellbeing, be it sleep, nutrition, fitness, stress management, like all of those daily practices that actually, to your point, like sets you up for success for the rest of your day and the rest of your week and the month and the years ahead. And it's interesting because I think like now the way that our world sees the wellness industry, like it's just really oversaturated with like things and it feels like at least in my perspective that there's so many boxes that I need to check to be healthy. And it can feel like an overwhelming amount of information. But I think it's so important to kind of filter through all of that and come back to those fundamentals, like those basic things that you can do to take care of yourself. So like for you is it exercising daily or there are other practices that you try to come back to every day that kind of keep you grounded and help you navigate the stress of daily life? The one that comes in mind that's a little bit less mainstream or you wouldn't think this necessarily as mental health, but I love to pay chess. It's like an opportunity and on one day I have a classical chess game, which just means a longer time format. Each side gets about two hours. So sometimes the games go along as long as four hours and it's just like a nice opportunity to step away from the world and just be focused on one thing, no phones, no distractions, you're just focused on one thing. And it's such a cathartic meditation experience of just being in that moment on that board. That's something that I really like to take care of my mental health and to balance the stress of life in addition to my workout and my fitness. There's other things as well like I've done like colo plunges and tried some meditation. And those things also sometimes make me feel better and are challenging too. So that's something that I enjoy. Yeah, I'm definitely a big colo plung enthusiast. Anyone who knows me? or who follows me, I'm always in a nice bath, which I don't wanna make my whole personality 'cause I can see why that would be really annoying. Everyone's now cold plunging, but it does really, like for me, it's about coming back to your breath and like kind of coaching yourself through something that's challenging and learning that you can do difficult things and you can learn how to self-regulate. That's what I think is the most impactful part of cold plunging. It's not even like the ice or the cold exposure, but it's like showing yourself that you can push yourself through something difficult and it's similar with sports too. - I think it's like this thing called type two fun, I don't know if you've heard of it before, but just like, it's a fun that during it, you're like, what am I doing this? But then after you're like, okay, I get it. Like it's a marathon that, you know, if you have a marathon before, like the 26 miles is grueling but then after you sign up for the next one for sure 'cause it's a different type of fun. - It's the endorphin high. It's literally the endorphin high that lasts. But speaking of challenging moments, navigating stress, I wanna talk more about what you've been up to recently, which is being on the Bachelor at and not to say that being on the show is stressful, but more so being kind of like a public figure and being on television and having people tune in and watch you, like let's dive into that. So I wanna hear what even sparked the idea to go through the whole process. Like what did that look like? - What was the intention behind wanting to go on the show? - Yeah, I mean, I started gainful when I was 21 years old. I'm 29 now. So I spent most of my 20s building gainful. And so it just felt like now that we have like an incredible team supporting the vision that Eric and I have put forward over the last seven plus years, I felt like the perfect opportunity to put myself in a position to find love. So kind of just through my hat and the ring, not knowing what to expect and got the fortunate opportunity to go meet Jen and fly to LA eventually fly to Australia with her and 17 other men. And yeah, not in my bingo card for this year, but just an incredible opportunity once in a lifetime. And so grateful for the experience. - That, I feel like really pushes you out of your comfort zone to take a huge leap of faith and to go have your love life be publicly viewed in a way. Like how did you navigate that experience? - Yeah, I mean, there's definitely no playbook. And I didn't know what to expect. I was just going to the experience without any like game plan. I was just letting it kind of wash over me and see where it would take me always with the intention of being myself and making sure that the view that the world sees of John is the view that is truly me. And then that way I wouldn't risk anything bad, I guess. That being said, there's always anxiety. Like before, before it aired, I had no idea what it would put on air. There's a lot of filming going on and you never know what's going to be aired. And thankfully, I have an incredible support network here and with my family, my friends, my coworkers and this show also provides counselors. If you need someone to talk to you. So even through all those anxieties, I was able to feel a lot better by talking to the people around me, people I trust and love. That was helpful. And kind of, my reflection of this is like, this is not an experience that I could have done alone. And definitely not an experience that I think anyone should try to do it alone. Because you need the support network to kind of go through some anxieties and some scaringness. I mean, dating without having everyone watch or tune in is can already be difficult for people to manage and to navigate. Like, it's a good point that you bring up that there's support on the show or there's people that you can talk to. What were some of the biggest lessons that you learned through being in that kind of environment where it's not like a traditional dating and environment, right? Like, when you compare being on the Bachelor at versus maybe dating in New York or while you're building your company, like, where do you see maybe some similarities, some differences, what were some things that you've learned in either experience? I mean, there's obviously a lot of differences. Like for me personally, I'm a little bit nervous and a little bit shy, right? And so in the real world, if you're on a date, you're probably going to get at least an hour, or at least an hour and a half of like getting to know people, get more comfortable and show yourself. And I knew that on the show, I would only get four or five minutes on the first night of the Gen. That's some added pressure, that's just a difference and something that I went into kind of prepared for. But I think the similarities are, I can't speak for myself because I didn't make it more than a couple weeks with Gen. But I think through level eventually, like, rebuild itself. And I don't know, the show's still being filmed or being aired, I'm sorry, right now. So I don't even know how it ends. But for those who make it far, I think they have enough time more than those five minutes. They get the one-on-one dates and they get more time. And you also have this incredible shared experience that it's so unique and so rare. So I think that's one aspect that also drew me in. It's like to have that shared experience with someone and also to be able to watch yourself fall in love with the person you're mentioning. I already have like, how incredible would that be? But yeah, definitely a unique experience and no real playbook. But I think the best advice that anyone could give is just to be yourself and be authentic. I think just generally speaking also in dating, too, it's like be yourself, be authentic. And that's an interesting point that you make like on the show, you only really get four minutes to make that first impression versus dating, not on reality TV. Like, usually a date's like the very least an hour, I feel like. I've noticed though, for myself, like, I can tell kind of immediately whether or not there's some sort of click or chemistry or whatever you want to call it, like, pretty much within actually the first few minutes of meeting someone. Like, is that something you've experienced, too, or when you're on the show, you only get those first few minutes to meet Jen or to talk to her on the first day? Do you feel like that's actually kind of enough time to get kind of a general sense of how you feel initially towards someone? Yeah, I think so. I've actually been like a part of this speed dating and kind of experience before. And I'm like, I totally, the five-minute conversations. So I should have been good at this by now. But definitely, I feel like if you can strip away those nerves and make sure you see the person for not that was few first few minutes of nerves, then, yeah, you kind of know if there's a click, if there's chemistry. Absolutely. Also, just dating in general, I think, is it's just like an experience to learn more about yourself, too. And through meeting different people and having different types of conversations, different types of interactions, it's a way to reflect on yourself and think about the kind of people that you're attracting into your life or actually what you really want. And I don't think that's an experience you get when you're going onto a show, the Bachelor, the Bachelor at, because it's just one pursuit. It's one person. So how have you kind of navigated, not being on the show for as long or not getting the rose? And how is that experience for you, kind of, I guess, maybe leaving earlier than you anticipated? Yeah, I mean, it was disappointing. I think that, and I said this interview with one of my producers, I think if it was a real world dating, I would have, I feel like I can make an actual connection with Jen. Oh, yeah, there's a lot of things going on. There's drama and there's pressure, et cetera. So that being said, I think everything happens for a reason that everything happens, like the way it should be. So sure, I'm a little bit disappointed, but also like I'm not here thinking that it's anything more than just an incredible opportunity to be part of Jen's journey and to kind of see if there's something there. Yeah, definitely. I think that's a healthy mentality to take, like, moving forward to. It's such a different experience. It's hard to compare this versus just dating in the wild in the real world. So what were some of those lessons that you've learned from this experience that you want to implement into your own life and like are you going to continue to stay open to other opportunities being on the market and just dating in New York or wherever? Like you said, dating is so hard. And any new environment is an added challenge. And something that I'm fond of is, and happy that I had the opportunity was to be out of my comfort zone. And it's like it's not something that is natural to me being like an introvert and a little bit more on the quieter side and trying to stand out among 25 other guys. And not only that, but also trying to see if the other side of the connection is there while you're still trying to stand out. Right? And so that means you got to ask questions, but we have a limited time. You want to make sure you also show yourself. So there's so many different calculus that I'm doing in my head. But yeah, just being uncomfortable, I think, is like an opportunity to grow. And I feel like I've grown from that experience of being out in my comfort zone. So that's really one of the big things I'm taking away from this experience. Dating in general is kind of taking you out of your comfort zone because there's like a vulnerability there. You're not sure how that connection's going to unfold or just being open can be really difficult too. So I definitely-- I don't know if I could do a show like the Bachelor. I think personally, it would be really hard for me to balance kind of what you're saying. You only get X amount of time with that person. You're trying to stand out amongst the crowd. But also even figure out what the connection's on the other side. So how did you try to stay grounded with these competing, not priorities, but just things that were going on in your mind? It's much more chaotic in that kind of environment. I can imagine then just like dating casually, leisurely, not having to stand-- you don't know who the other person's dating in the real world. It's not like you're with them all the time, a whole group. So how did you kind of navigate the different pressures or thoughts that were kind of going on in your mind? [BLANK_AUDIO] I think if I were to do it again, I wouldn't change a lot, but one thing I would change is to stop thinking about thinking so much and just trusting the process a little bit more and trust that if the connection is there, it'll come through, like you said in those first few minutes. I know that's not the end of the world. I think I put a lot of pressure on myself a little bit more than I should have if I think about all these things and doing math in my head, like trying to solve this problem that's completely new to me and I didn't have any playbook for. So that would be one thing that would change, just let it flow and if it works, it works if not, no big deal. I think that's a good lesson for life in general, too. We put so much emphasis on controlling the outcome, knowing how things are going to happen, wanting to control the entire process. But really, I've found that the best things that happen are organic. It's easy. I've not thought really behind it, it just flows naturally. What I've also found, I don't know if you can relate to this, but in order to let things just naturally fall into place, I've had to deprioritize dating in a way, shifting the focus away from other people and into myself and doing the things that fill up my cup. I really do believe that when you put that energy back into you, it's really magnetic and it attracts the right people and the right opportunities to come along and not even just in dating with anything in life. If you want something, I think it's less about the pursuit of that one thing, but more so setting up your life in the best way possible for you and continuing to do the things that light you up and then there's these synchronicities, things just kind of click into place. Absolutely. I couldn't agree more totally. You mentioned you were focused for seven years or so on your company and then you hit this point where you're like, I'm ready to find love. I'm going to go do this experience. But as you were building gainful, were you dating like, how did you navigate that? Did you feel not open to finding a partner being in a more serious relationship? What was that journey like for you? Yeah. Over the course of seven years, there's been waves of different chapters in the story and there's times when I feel a lot of inspiration and so there's a lot of focus on work and there's times when I have to be focused on work because there's a lot of challenges that we're facing. And there's also times when I do feel like the need to step away a little bit more, focus on my personal life to date because that's an important part of life. This is finding out a partner, someone that makes you better, someone that makes you happy. So it's not something that I ignored through my 20s at all, but it's definitely, there's times when I have the opportunity to focus on that and there's times when I didn't. So just kind of understanding how those waves go and make sure you're listening to what you need for yourself first and then also with the company needs second. It is an important part of every day balance that I have. I also can imagine being in entrepreneurs really tiring and challenging and stressful, but also really rewarding. So how have you over the past seven years and also how do you continue to take care of your well-being as a founder and navigating a lot of pressures and a lot of different things happening at once, trying to continue to grow your company, but also prioritize yourself and your personal life and your dating life, how have you balanced both priorities? I think it really comes down to listening to yourself and something that I have realized through Stoning Gainful is in your entrepreneurial journey sometimes the hardest thing to do, and maybe this is just a life fact, is just to be honest with yourself. And so just really pushing myself to look in a mirror and be honest with what do I need right now has been a constant thing that I'm thinking about of making sure that I'm doing. Do I need a break right now or do I feel inspired to really put the pedal to the metal and get the most out of this opportunity that we have. So balance is of course just a key word and the way the best way to balance it I think is just to be honest of what you need. Sometimes it's hard to be honest with yourself. It's so hard and maybe the hardest thing in the world. But have there been any points in your entrepreneurial journey where you've realized like I'm not being honest with myself and there's been a certain catalyst or something that's kind of forced you to be like, oh, I need to be honest with myself. I need to make some sort of change or I need to slow down and there's value to that as well. Yeah, well, I think anytime you make a mistake in retrospect or hindsight 2020, right? If you look back and you look at the mistakes that you made in the past, usually the reason is because you weren't honest to yourself. It could be as like let's say a marketing campaign and you're like, oh, this is definitely all work and it doesn't work. It was a mistake. Probably because you weren't being honest with yourself because maybe you already invested so much time in this and you're good. You knew it was going to work, but you didn't want to pull back and so it didn't work. So I think that like sometimes mistakes are just the end result of not being fully honest with yourself. And of course, like we all know that mistakes are a part of business like in its part of life. Like we make so many mistakes, but as long as you learn from them, recover from them, like that's what's most important and you get better at being honest to yourself because you know a little bit more. Yeah, it's like what I'm hearing is following your intuition, like listening to yourself, even if maybe it conflicts with what you think you want or what you think is best or how you think things should look or how you think things should be. When there's that disconnect between your intuition and how you want things to turn out, I think that's what causes us to like make the mistakes because we know maybe like in the process of being honest, we're not necessarily going to like what that outcome might be even though it's probably for the higher good or for the best at the end of the day. And so what I'm hearing is like coming back to your intuition and that's something that I've like had to deal with as well. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think it's also like learning more about yourself and learning like why you are saying things to yourself or as you grow, you know, and you're treacherous into intuition more, you also learn a little bit more about your intuition and learn about more about yourself and how certain things can get in the way of making the right decision whether that's pride or something else. Absolutely. Like those are the distractions too. Like the things that we cling onto that we think like for example, our ego, like our pride so important to not let the necessarily drive all of our decisions and our behaviors because it can be distracting for maybe what's like intuitively right or what's best. I mean, it's interesting how like not just in business, just like in dating, just in general in our lives, like the more we can come back to our own authenticity and like our own intuition and strengthening that inner trust, the less conflict we feel around needing to control things because you just let things flow. And I'm wondering like is that a mentality that you're trying to stick to now, not being on the Bachelor at any more and kind of transitioning back into maybe the routines you had before being on the show, like how you're kind of moving forward from this experience. Are you trusting that things worked out as they were meant to? Yeah, I feel really good about where I am in life and like, I mean, there's always hard times and there's always good times too, but I think it's important to keep whatever your North Star is in sight and just keep making progress towards that North Star. And so when times are tough, you just keep moving on and keep going forward and trusting the process and letting it flow. And when things are good, it's the same thing, but it just feels better. You know, I want to transition a little bit to the concept of endorphins of joy of happiness, which is exactly what this podcast is about. And I think we've kind of touched a little bit on these topics throughout the interview so far, but one question that I do have for you is your philosophy on happiness and on joy. And it's, I think you have really interesting, like a really interesting background, not only where you're an athlete, but you're a founder. You were just on the Bachelor at. You really put yourself outside of your comfort zone. I can imagine like have experienced stressful moments in and outside of the show and while you're building your company and I'd love to just hear like through all these experiences and life lessons, like what is your philosophy on cultivating joy and how do you define happiness? Has that shifted throughout the course of your life or even recent events in your life? The ingredients of happiness is definitely going to look different for everyone. And not only that, it's going to look different for like the same person over the course of their life. Like for me, like right now to answer what are the ingredients to happiness for me? It's purpose and connections. And so having opportunities to have those two things combined and I think gainful is like a perfect example to have this purpose and this mission and have connections on not only the team, but also connections in the community and with our customer base. It makes it such a special experience. It brings me so much joy. And yeah, I think something so important in life is sharing those connections with people and oftentimes the challenges and the obstacles that you go through with people make those connections even stronger. And you know, like with the bachelor rep, like I had connections with not only Jen, but also these 24 other men who went through a very similar experience, new experience, uncomfortable experience and you know, that makes bonds stronger and it's something that I really love about life and is those connections and those bonds with the people around you. I talk a lot about this in my interviews because this idea of connection being integral to our happiness and our well-being is like consistently talked about across all my I guess too. And And it makes sense because one of the strongest predictors to our well-being and our life satisfaction is the strength of our relationships. So it does go to show cultivating joy in our lives. There's many ways we can do it, but a huge common denominator, one of the most impactful ways, is through deepening our connections. With other people, with ourselves, there's many ways we can do it. And when you talk about purpose, how do you define purpose? That might be a hard question to answer, but how do you find purpose out of what you're building out of the way that you structure your life? It's such a hard question, but it's like the million dollar question, right? It's like that's kind of what we're all doing in life is, it's like, what is our purpose? I'm not going to add like I know that answer even for myself, but sometimes I feel like not to get too meta, but your purpose is to find your purpose. Oh man, that's a little bit too meta, but it's also a kind of easier way to think about as to not put so much pressure on like, oh, I need to know exactly what I'm putting on as Earth. Like in this very moment, but to make progress towards, towards frigging that out, that means learning by yourself and like continuing to grow. And I think over time, it'll be more clear. And it's exceptionally rare for people to find that. And so even if you're asking yourself the question, like you already once up ahead, and that's kind of a big part of what life's all about, I think. That is kind of meta, like your purpose is to find your purpose, but I'm thinking a little bit more about that. And it reminds me of this idea of learning to just trust the process, like the process of life and to find enjoyment in, you know, every experience along the way, like every experience along the way is just adding another chapter to your book if you want to think about your life in that way, right? Like you're going to go through these things anyway, might as well enjoy it as it happens rather than like hate it, right? 100 percent. Yeah. Agreed. But also goes to show the power of our minds and our mindset and the way that you perceive things versus the actual events that happen, that's more impactful on your health and your well-being because I think our minds have the ability and the power to shape, you know, how we feel, like the way that we perceive, the way that we learn from what we go through, rather than the actual event that occurs. Because like we were talking about earlier, you basically really can't control anything at the end of the day that happens to you. So might as well just let things happen as they do and find some sort of enjoyment along the way. And you know, sometimes the child like wonder of just the fact little things, right, is a good way to think about it. Like if you were to look at certain situations through the eyes of a child, whether it's like a pretty tree or whatever, like sometimes I think I definitely forget to do that and to like look at life from just a more childlike perspective sometimes. Yeah. And speaking of the little things, so the one question that I ask every guest that comes onto the podcast is what brings you endorphins. And I know you talked about some things in life that bring you joy and that you do that make you really happy. But if you could think about maybe like one or two things that you do every day or just something that like brings you a ton of endorphins, what would that be for you? I mean, the obvious answer and this won't be like the only thing, but and the physiological answer is the fitness exercise and being active that definitely is a supporting feature that brings me endorphins and no question. I think maybe going a little bit deeper than that is these connections and the community that the communities that I'm part of that just bring me so much happiness and so much joy and feeling like I can be myself and also just feeling understood and accepted for myself brings me a lot of joy, a lot of happiness no matter which community that is whether that's my co-workers or my family or my friends or folks and fitness classes with me. Yeah. I'm not another area that I really, really find a lot of happiness and having people just be there for you and also doing reciprocating that being there for other people makes me so happy. Being understood, feeling seen and also knowing that it's important to have the right people in your environment that you surround yourself with that will help you grow and that accept who you are and also help you learn more about yourself. I think it's so important to have quality people around that you surround yourself with to help continue to bring more joy into your life. I love those responses and definitely relate to the fitness one. I find that the days where I start my mornings with a workout or some sort of movement, I just feel baseline better. I don't know what it is. I mean, it's probably the endorphin. But I genuinely feel much better when I start my morning with some sort of movement and it looks different usually every day. So, I love that response too. Jahan, it was really such a pleasure having you as a guest on the podcast. Thank you so much for your time for being here. How can my listeners connect with you? Follow along your journey post-patch lorette and also where can they get gainful? Yeah, so I can get gainful at gainful.com. Also we are in Target Station Wide and then just recently launched an Amazon and while a few more retailers coming out in the next few months as well. So connect with me. You can either follow me on Instagram @jah_an. So just my first name with a little underscore in the middle or follow gainful. And yeah. Awesome. Well, thank you so much. It was such a pleasure having you today. Thanks. I really, really appreciate it. It was great being here. Thanks for tuning into this episode of Everyday Endorphins. If you liked what you heard and you want to continue to follow along, make sure to like, rate, review and subscribe to this podcast on whichever listening platform you prefer. Don't forget to try gainful for yourself. Use the code Endorphins for 30% off of your first order. Also, whoever's listening, Jahan is single. He's not on the bachelor at anymore. So you know where to find him. I'll leave that there. Anyways, if you want to stay plugged into Everyday Endorphins outside of the podcast, I'm on Instagram, I'm on TikTok and you can also drop your email to subscribe to my newsletter. 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