This lecture segment examines higher states of consciousness, such as the enlightenment achieved by the Buddha, which are problematic yet foundational to many world religions and philosophies. These states are described as feeling more "real" than ordinary consciousness, featuring intense perceptual clarity, a sense of the world's beauty and aliveness, profound inner peace, joy, and a transformed or egoless self. They often arise from disruptive practices like meditation or fasting and share continuities with flow and insight experiences, particularly in enhancing attentional scaling and cognitive flexibility. The experience fosters a deep sense of coherence and connection to reality, which empirical studies link to increased life meaning and positive personal transformation. The discussion underscores the need for a multi-level theory—bridging psychology, cognition, and neuroscience—to descriptively explain these states and prescriptively evaluate their claim to offer authoritative access to a deeper reality, thereby justifying the radical life changes they inspire.
[Music] Tandra Veki is awakening from the meaning crisis. [Music] Welcome back to Awakening from the Meaning Crisis. Last time we were discussing the Axial Age within ancient India. We were focusing in on a pivotal figure of Satyata Gautama, the Buddha. And we had been talking about his particular story. We talked about two modes of being that were being represented in his story of leaving the palace, the having mode and the being mode. And we talked about modal confusion and about overcoming it. We followed him to where he's sitting under the Bodhi tree and he achieves a deep kind of realization, a deep state of enlightenment. Along the way we had discussed what mindfulness is, how mindfulness operates through attentional scaling, and how it can increase your cognitive flexibility, your capacity of our insight. And then we were trying to draw this all together with some cognitive science, a discussion of what is it to experience enlightenment. Now I'm not offering right now a complete account or anything like a comprehensive theory of enlightenment. We're going to be slowly working towards that as we move through this lecture series. But I do want to get into and continue the discussion of these higher states of consciousness. So if you remember, they're very problematic. But they're at the core of many of the Axial Age, world religions and foundational philosophies. This is the idea that people have an alternative state of consciousness that they regard as somehow more real than their everyday state of consciousness. And that's problematic precisely because we tend to judge realness by how well we get an overall coherence in our intelligibility, how we're making sense of things. But in these altered states that are very different from our everyday consciousness and therefore do not coherent with it, people do the alternative. Instead of rejecting it the way we reject dreaming for example, because it doesn't go here with our everyday experience. People reject the everyday experience as a losery and they say that this state of consciousness somehow gives them an improved access to reality. And as you remember, as we've been going through the Axial Age revolution and the sense of wisdom and meaning that is attended upon it, the ability to transcend through illusion and get connected to what is more real is central to what wisdom means and having some deep sense of connected to reality is also central to what it is to regard once life as authentically meaningful in some fashion. So that was the problem we had set up, the problem of higher states of consciousness. Now I want to start by talking about what it's like to give a theory that we talked about this also last time. We want a theory that's most descriptively adequate and prescriptively adequate. A descriptive theory should tell me like give me a good explanation for why these higher states of consciousness have the experiential feel that they have, and why they're able to produce these deep kinds of transformations. Because if you remember what typically happens is because people have since this deep connectedness to reality and because being connected to reality is one of fundamental way in which we make our lives meaningful. People will radically transform their whole lives, their sense of self, their interpersonal relationship in order to maintain and enhance that connectedness to this deepened reality. So we need to explain, give it descriptively adequate explanation and this has to work at multiple levels and this is where cognitive science is so important because of the way it tries to bridge between these various levels and disciplines. We need to give an account of the psychological processes, of the information processes and ultimately the brain processes that are at work. Then we need a prescriptively adequate theory of higher states of consciousness. We need an account that explains why it might be considered rationally justifiable that these states authorize and legitimate such transformations. Can we see why these states should be listened to when they claim to give us access to a deeper reality? Now, in order to carry out the first one, seeing what the Siddhartha was going through, when he's achieving this higher state of consciousness, this awakened state. And if you remember last time we talked about how comprehensively extended this is, not only qualitatively through the world religions, but just quantitatively through the population. A 30 to 40 percent of people report these awakening experiences and the resulting deep transformation. So, in order to get through that, let's talk about what does it feel like to be in such a state? And because we have these surveys and we have the work of Newberg and Taylor and we have lots of first person accounts, we can draw some general pictures of what's going on. So, there's three components we want to look at. How is the world being experienced? How is the self being experienced and how is the relationship between the world and the self being experienced? So, let's start on the world side. So, people report the following things. They report a tremendous sense of clarity. And this is both perceptual and cognitive. So, the world seems extremely clear to them and makes sense to them in a way that it hasn't before. The perceptual part of that clarity is often experienced as bright. Things are shining. And that's the original meaning of glory, for example. To go back to the Bible, for example, the term that is most often used to describe God is glory, which is not a moral term. It's a term about how sort of shining God is, how bright it is. Now, you remember that's a feature that people also reliably report in the flow experience. Everything seems very vivid and bright and intense. Now, what's interesting is that while people describe this clarity and notice how this is going to pick up on what we talked about when we talked about mindfulness, they talk about both an expansion of vision. So, it's very comprehensive. They get almost like they're somehow aware of the whole of the world, but they also are aware of finite details. So, this is captured, for example, in Blake's famous poem, right, to see the world in a grain of sand and heaven in a wild flower, to hold infinity in the palm of your hand and to spend eternity in an hour. So, you get this deep interpenetration of sort of everything and the finite details. You can see that so what you're getting is this massive expansion of that attentional scaling that we talked about mindfulness enhancing and thereby enhancing our capacity to break frame and make frame and get fundamental insight and pay attention to the word insight, seeing into reality. So, overall, there's an increased sense of making sense of things. So, the world is both intricate and interesting in this extended and enhanced and shining way. So, almost universally, people describe this experience as the world is beautiful. It's deeply beautiful to them. And we'll come back at some point to talk about the connections between beauty and truth, particularly the work of Scari about this. The world is very alive. It seems very alive during this experience because it's so pregnant with energy and significance. And all of this, all of this, comprehensiveness, but intricate detail, the shining, the beauty, the making sense. All of this comes together in the notion of oneness. There's somehow an underlying oneness to everything. There's deep and profound integration, which, of course, makes sense given that very often when we are explaining something, we are finding what unifies and integrates them together. What's happening on the side of the self? What's happening on the side of the self is people report a profound sense of peace. And this is not peace in an empty, just lack of conflict. It's very similar to what we talked about in Plato. And you're probably seeing Plato's ideas about anagage resonating with this. I hope you're seeing that. But remember in Plato, that interstate of peace is one of inner harmony when all of the various components of your personality and your cognition are mutually optimally working together in concert. And this is the kind what people report. The often report that this is the greatest sense of peace they've ever experienced in their life.
Remember in Plato, the sense of peace is connected to and resonates with this enhanced sense of connectedness to reality. And interestingly enough, that's what we're seeing in these descriptions. People also describe experiencing profound joy. Now of course, we've lost the sense of what this word means. We've lost it precisely in words like enjoyment, where enjoyment means having fun or pleasure. But joy is not the experience of fun or pleasure. Joy is the positive emotion you have when you experience a deep connection to what is good. So joy is the experience you have of this is really, really good. Okay? Interestingly, people often report a fundamental change in their sense of self. And we're going to come back to this. They report two things. They're often report that their normal sense of self has disappeared. Their egocentric autobiographical sense of self has disappeared. And if you remember, that's continuous with what we saw when people are in the flow state. They report that self-consciousness, that autobiographical narrative self is disappearing. They often also report remembering in the sense we talked about, when we talked about sati and remembering the being mode. They remember, they say, "I remember my true self. I remember who I really am." So there's a profound connection inward to the core machinery of the self that is at one with a profound sense of connecting to the underlying pattern that governs and makes intelligible reality. People report that in this state they have a tremendous sense of energy and vitality, again analogous to the flow state. And finally, they report that they often use this term. There's a tremendous sense of insight and understanding. Again, I continue with the flow state. Now what about their relation? So this is deep connection, profound connectedness, deep at one minute, again like the flow state. But even more, people feel so at one that they start to feel that they're participating in their reality, that they're connected to. They start to feel like they're sharing identity to it. And this way of thinking about this is when we talked about Aristotle's notion of the conformity theory of knowing. They feel so deeply conformed to this underlying reality from the very core of their being that they are experiencing an identification with it. But this participatory knowing is so superlative and it's so profound and so transformative that inevitably people just say that the experience, that this connection is ineffable. And we noted this while last time we were talking about, how is it that these experiences that have no right, articulable declarative content? Because they're ineffable. You can't put them into words. You can't put them into propositional thought. Nevertheless are considered so loaded with, so capable of bearing the signature of ultimate reality or realness for people. So we need a descriptive theory that can account for all of these features, the features of how the world is experienced, how the self is experienced, and the relation. Now what I've been showing you already of course is deep continuity with the flow experience. I'm not claiming it's a flow experience. It's more than that, but I'm showing you that there's continuity just like I showed you that there's continuity between the flow experience and the inside experience. And that's why when people are having these higher states of consciousness, they're also proposing a very profound insight. And notice how often when you have an insight it's also ineffable to you. You don't know how the insight arose or what comes how it came to be. You just like, ah, I just see it. Now some other important things we should know about these states. These states are often preceded by disruptive strategies, disruptive strategies. These are strategies that are designed to disrupt your normal cognitive functioning and to alter your state of consciousness. So they can range from very long term strategies to very short term strategies. Long term strategies can be the ones we've already described like said hardest. said harder was engaged for six years in these practices, these mindfulness practices of meditation and contemplation. And they bring about right a very long term incremental, but nevertheless also profound disruption in your normal state of consciousness and cognition. People also can pursue very short term disruptive strategies. These include things like fasting, sexual and sleep deprivation. If you remember, we talked about how shamans will make use of these strategies in order to induce the shamanic state. They will expose themselves to drumming, chanting. All of these things disrupt your normal level of cognition. And of course when we talked about this as well, people will make use of psychedelics precisely because of the way they are so deeply disruptive of your normal cognition. And your normal state of consciousness. So what we know is that combinations, well sorry, that's a little too strong. What we have good some initial good evidence is that combinations of these strategies can be very good. There was a recent experiment coming out of the Griffiths lab in 2018 in which people who were practicing mindfulness and then took psychedelics tended to have a more enhanced experience than people who were just taking the psychedelics, for example. So you can combine the strategies together. They can be mutually supportive. Now what's important for this as we'll come back and take a look at more carefully in a few minutes is disruptive strategies are also central to setting up insight. And that should make sense to you given what we've talked about. You have to do a lot of breaking a frame before you can open up the possibility of making an entirely new new frame. There was a recent experiment run by Yaden and Al in 2017. They had they had 701 participants. 69% of them reported this what I called onto normativity, the sense of the enhanced realness of their higher states of consciousness. And this was actually predictive of significant improvement across many dimensions of their life. There was significant improvement in family life, health, sense of purpose, spirituality and a release from the anxiety and fear of death. So the claim that these states do guide transformation has received empirical backing. Now Yaden also brings out something important in that study that you don't see very well articulated in Newberg and in Taylor. And this is one of the disruptive strategies that people are often using and it leads into the phenomenology by that I mean the experiential feel and structure of these experience. And this is the notion of de-centering. So when people describe these experiences they shift from a very sort of first person orientation and egocentric to an alocentric. So they are not so egocentric. This is why this is called de-centering. They're speaking more from like a third person perspective and alocentric. So let me just give you a quick understanding of the difference between these terms. I can describe my motion egocentrically. Things that are in front of me, behind me, to the right of me, to the left of me. And that of course varies by how I'm oriented because it is relative to me. But I can also describe my position alocentrically. I can say where I am relative to the North Pole, for example. So the first is a first person egocentric way of moving through the world. The second is an alocentric third person. Now extend that out. People are much less egocentrically oriented when they're describing the experience of this state. Then they are normally they're much more alocentrically oriented. And that makes sense given how intensified the experience of reality is to them. It's like the salience of reality is finally capable of a clipsing the narcissistic glow of our own ego. And for a moment at least or for several moments we get release. Right and this is an important example.
The important idea, Nirvana means to blow out, to extinguish, or the Vedanta term, Moksha is released. We get a release from the imprisonment, the self-idealization by the super salience, and therefore the bullshitting of our own egocentric perspective. I mean, do you not sometimes wish to be free from the prison cell of the super salience of your own ego? So, as I've been suggesting to you, these higher states of consciousness have a lot of features of insight. I've already talked about the insight, remember we did the nine dot problem, for example, those aha moments. Because you get in that moment of insight, you get a flash of insight, you get sort of super salience. Things are making sense to you, you get insight, it's almost visual, into an underlying pattern, a unity, a oneness that wasn't there before. Your sense of what's relevant and important has been altered. And this ability to radically make sense to find coherence, an underlying intelligible integrative pattern, this we now know from current work is directly predictive of the experience of meaning and life. So, Samantha Heinzelman, whose work I recommend to you, I also got to meet Samantha in person, and got to talk to her about this. But what she has is good experimental evidence of the following. If you give people a bunch of scenes that make sense to them, that they can sort of determine an underlying pattern too, and then ask them how meaningful their lives are, they will rate their lives as more meaningful. The act, do you understand? The act of making sense of finding coherence actually makes people experience their lives as more meaningful. They're not being shown profound pictures of, or deeply dramatic or narrative scenes, or emotionally, they're just showing some very basic pictures. But the act of making sense of finding coherence elevates the sense of how meaningful their lives are. So, start to put this together. If you were to have an insight, that would give you an even more sudden increase in your sense of meaning in life. And what if it's in flow, well, that's going to be even more enhanced sense of meaning in life, and we already know that, the more often you have flow experiences, the more meaningful you find your life, and now what if it's beyond that? What if it's a higher state of consciousness that brings you this radical sense of deep intelligibility, not only of the world, but of yourself in both directions, at the same time? That is going to give you a profound sense of increased meaning in life. Now, if you get, try to put this together, if you get enhanced meaning in life, coupled to an enhanced sense of understanding, and that actually does guide you in improving your life, that is going to build a tremendous amount of confidence in you that you have found a path towards self-transcendence and wisdom. You can start to understand some of the Buddha's confidence. Now, what do we know about these flashes of insight? Well, Tobolinsky and Reiber in 2010, this is a different reiber, not the implicit learning reiber, right? Talk about how insight is a fluency spike. Although it's related to flow, it's not the same thing. Fluency is a general property of all of your cognitive processing. So, how can we understand it? Well, initially people thought that fluency was a sense of how easy it was to process things. But the basic idea is, if I make it easier for you to process information, you will rate that information as better, more trustworthy, more believable, regardless of the actual semantic content. So, for example, compare this, right? To this, the contrast isn't as great. And if I were to get you to read some text in black and the exact same text in the orange, you will rate what you read in the black as better. You'll have more confidence in it, more likely to be true. The semantic content is exactly equal. It's because it's easier for you to process the black and white contrast than the orange on white contrast. Now, it turns out it's not quite ease of processing just because simply repeating a stimulus doesn't trigger this sense of fluency. It's more like how accessible information is, how applicable it is. I would argue that it's how well your system is zeroing in on the relevant information. How much has the information be formatted for you so that you can zero in on relevant information? A way of thinking about this to help make sense of it is our discussion of psychotechnologies. Alphabetic literacy made your cognitive processing more fluent, and that improved your ability, your cognitive power, and by improving your cognitive power, that gives you an enhanced sense of how real and important the information your processing is. So the idea here is when you are fluent, you are processing information very efficiently. When you have, according to Tobolinsky and Reiber, when you have an insight experience, what you're getting is a sudden spike in fluency. It's a significant increase in how fluently you're processing, and therefore you start to judge the information that you're processing therein as likely being more real. Now, is this an absolute perfect rule? No. But the fact that it's domain general, the fact that it seems to be part of our evolutionary heritage, and there's also some independent logical argumentation indicating that this fluency, the fact that it's a very good strategy, it's very generally the case, not perfectly, not certainty, but very generally the case that in real world situations, if you are processing them very fluently, you are picking up on the real patterns. So insight is zeroing in, and then we talked about flow as an insight cascade, which is even more zeroing it, and it's coupled to implicit learning in which you're picking up on bigger patterns that you're not consciously aware of. So you can't put them into declarative utterances. Do you see what's happening here? So in the higher states, as you start to move towards the higher states of consciousness like flow, you're getting this enhanced fluency, so your brain is working very optimally, and the implicit learning is picking up on very complex patterns, and you're tending to zeroing on the causal ones rather than the correlation ones. So I'm using all of this machinery we've already discussed, because as I mentioned in the flow state, you're starting to get a lot of the features of mystical experiences, and ultimately those mystical experiences that can be transformative, by enhancing meaning in life and your sense of connectedness to realness. You get the at one mint in the flow state, the radical loss of self-consciousness, you're not egocentric, you, although you know there's tremendous energy, it feels effortless to you, it's graceful, there's a super salient, it's intrinsically rewarding, it's like evolutionarily marked in, it's domain general and universal, all this stuff we've talked about, this is all being triggered in the higher states of consciousness. So this leads to a hypothesis I want to present to you. So this hypothesis is a continuity hypothesis. Why are we doing this? We are doing this because we want a scientifically legitimate, scientifically plausible explanation of what's going on when somebody claims enlightenment, like Siddhartha Gautama. When somebody claims radical self-transcendence like Plato, because we want something that gives a good explanation for what's actually happening, and a good justification for why somebody should fit.
follow and be guided by these transformative experiences. Okay, so what's the continuity hypothesis? The continuity hypothesis is the idea. So this is a hypothesis I'm giving you, although I, as I was doing research on this, Newberg independently from me, we haven't spoken, has also come up with a version of the continuity hypothesis. It's not as developed as the one I'm going to give you, but it's completely consonant with it. So the idea is, fluency gets enhanced in insight, insight gets enhanced in flow. So you've seen all those arguments already, and then the idea is, as I'm trying to show you, flow experiences can be enhanced into mystical experiences. And then there are mystical experiences that can bring about a transformative experience. These are the higher states of consciousness in which people are willing to transform. We'll come back to the problem of transformative experience. So the continuity hypothesis is basically the same machinery as being used, but it is being exapted. Remember, exaptation, it is being progressively exapted into more and more powerful processing that can afford what I'm going to argue, a rationally justifiable guidance into the kinds of transformation that we are seeking when we are seeking to cultivate wisdom and enhance meaning in life. When we are seeking to awaken from the meaning crisis, we are trying to invoke one of these awakening experiences. And remember, that's what Buddha means, the awakened one. So, Newberg argues that if you have a lot of these kinds of experiences, what he calls little enlightenment experiences or regular insights, that this will eventually produce these kinds of experiences. And I, so this is not only a continuity hypothesis, this is a priming hypothesis, and I support that as well. The more you are practicing mindfulness, which we know is predictive of insight and flow, we know that mindfulness practices are predictive of mystical experiences, we know that they're connected to transformative experiences, the more you can prime this pump, the more you will be able to bring about this enhanced connectedness, this enhanced anagage. All right, so this, I think, idea of the continuity hypothesis will help us to begin to explain what's going on in the higher states of consciousness. And eventually, use the very same machinery that we talk about and explaining it to justify, to give a rational justification for it. All right, so we know, for example, that in flow, there has to be a relevant expertise. Remember, we've talked about this. The flow state is when your skills, your expertise, can meet the demands of the situation. If you don't have the relevant skills, you can't get into the flow state, all right? So I can get into the flow state as a martial artist because I have cultivated the expertise. I can get into the flow state while lecturing because I've been doing it for 24 years, I have the relevant expertise. So what we might ask, and what you should ask me right now, you say, well, John, what's flowing in these higher states of consciousness? What expertise are you using? Well, what I want to argue to you is it's a fundamental kind of expertise, one that's central to your everyday experience of making sense of the world on a day-to-day basis. So this ultimately goes back to work by Marloponti, especially in the book, The Phenomenology of Perception. But the people who I'm going to most often refer to, the work of Herbert Drifus. Drifus is famous within cognitive science for bringing the work of Marloponti and others into cognitive science. And also the work of Drifus and Taylor. This is the Charles Taylor that we've already talked about with connection to the extra revolution in a book called Retrieving Realism. So what process is being optimized here? So Drifus and others talk about, right? What they call optimal grip. Now that's so-- I mean, they meet it metaphorically because they're talking about cognition. But that is such a wonderfully felicitous term, because again, it harkens back to the conformity theory of cognition, a contact epistemology, that of course Charles Taylor introduced us to. Now what do they mean by that? So part of this is the idea that when we're-- let's talk about it first perceptually. When I'm trying to perceive an object, especially if I don't know what the object is initially, I don't remain static. I'm going to move around the object until I get to a place that gets into a trade-off relationship. Remember, we've talked about these trade-off relationships before. What trade-off relationship do I want? I want to get to a place where I can see as many details of the cup as possible. So that's sort of zooming in, right? Oh, wow. But if I zoom in too much, I lose on the other end. I don't get a sense of the Gestalt. Remember that? I don't get a sense of the overall thing. So what I do is I move the cup around so that I get a place where I get the best optimization for my needs. Because it's always relative to what I'm doing. I get a best optimization between the overall grasp of the cup, its Gestalt, and a grasp of its details. So I'm trying to get a dynamic balance between. That's why when you draw faces, you draw them from the perspective of the optimal grip you have on them. You represent a face in such a way. You draw a face in such a way that you try to get as much of the hole and as much as the detail to get. You don't draw a face by drawing someone's eyes really in detail. And you don't draw a face by zooming out too far. You try and get exactly that right balance. So a lot of perception-- you're unaware of this because you learned how to do this when you're like a young child. But think about, for example, again, if you're learning a martial art, just as an example. So when you're relearning how to perceive your opponent, part of what you're trying to do is try to get an optimal grip on your opponent. So in Tai Chi, for example, we talk about tiger eyes. You don't want to hard focus on the person's face. One of the mistakes that many people make going into a confrontation is they hard focus on face or they hard focus on weapon. We know this from psychological research, by the way. You get people who have been held up. You know what they can give you an accurate description of? The gun, not the person who was holding them up because they hard focus. They lose that soft vigilance. So what you want to do is you want to get the right-- and it takes practice-- you want to flow over the person. You don't want to be flowing in a blurry fashion. You want to get this sense where you've got a sense of their whole body, but you can zero in on details. And then you also are trying to get an optimal grip on your own body. So for example, you're going to take a stance. And the point about the stance is to try and give you an optimal sense-- give you an overall sense. So now I'm aware of my whole body, but I'm also aware of it in connection to the details of where my fingers are, where my wrists are, what my joints are doing. And I'm taking a stance that I can ease that's multi-opt. I can easily transform it into what I need to do. I get an optimal grip. You do this cognitively. And then a wash pointed this out in terms of the categories you use. So you will describe things as a cat or a dog. That's how you'll usually talk about it. You usually won't go a level up and say, oh, that's a mammal. So this creature's walking by on the road. And somebody says, hey, look at the mammal. That would be weird. Now, they might go down to another level. Like, there's the carcass spaniel. But generally, they are doing that because they have some intimate familiarity. Most of us would say, hey, look at the dog. Rush calls this the basic level. Why do we default to the basic level in the way we talk about? Why is this a table? Why is this a marker? Why do we default to the basic level? Because it's how we get our cognitively optimal grip. You see, there's two things I want to trade off in when I'm categorizing things. Here's my category. I want as much similarity within the category as I can get. But I want as much difference between two categories.
and those are in a trade-off because as I go higher up right I get much more abstract and I lose the specific differences when I go down here right I'm getting too specific I'm losing the broad generality we've talked about this before you're always trying to balance between getting member the higher the higher states of conscious as comprehensive and as detailed as you can and those are always in a trade-off relationship so you talk about dogs and cats because that's your way of getting an optimal cognitive grip on the world remember we did this the cat remember we talked about how you're simultaneously going up to the Gestalt and down to the detail you're optimally gripping between the Gestalt of the word and the features of the letter and you're doing it right now you've got a way of paying attention that allows you to read and you had to practice that optimal gripping you're going into a first date what do you do well you're trying to get a sense of the person now here's where the term optimal grip is a little bit implicitous but so don't don't read anything miss read any sexual misconduct into my use of the term I'm using in the technical sense but you're trying to get an optimal grip on the other person and it's very difficult notice how you're you're toggling your attention and your interaction and you know this because of the kinds of advice your friends give you they'll say things right I happen to be straight so they will say to me for example you know look into our eyes but not too much smile but not too much laugh not too often ask the questions but not too many and mix it up between these strategies but not chaotically and you're like sort of and yet here's the thing you do it it works at least sometimes you figure out you find that sweet spot where you're getting the sense of the person both as a whole and in detail so I'm giving you multiple examples you're always engaged because you're always trading between these trade-offs you're always optimally gripping so you have to do this domain general you have to do it in every domain when you're swimming going on a day reading right looking at an object you're trying to get an optimal grip and you have practiced this skill so that you're extremely proficient you do it without realizing it herbed right this is one of his favorite examples you know how close to stand to somebody how close should you stand to somebody in order to get an optimal grip on the interaction there is no algorithm it's like always stand four inches that's ridiculous always stand one foot it depends on the context depends on the person but you have that skill most of you are not socially awkward so here's what I'm proposing to you what if you didn't when what have you got into a flow state that wasn't if there isn't the flow state of doing a martial art isn't the flow state of playing music like a jazz or something what is what you were getting into a flow state about was your ability to optimally grip the world what have I made it really challenging by altering your state of consciousness disrupting your normal framing and then opening up because right no member what's happening in this all higher state you're both opening up your attention and zeroing in to see the world in a grain of sand what if you were all what if you had this all optimal grip but it wouldn't be on just one object it would be a dynamical flowing optimal grip on the world and yourself the most comprehensive attempt to make sense not intellectually theoretically but optimally gripping reality this deep conformity so what I'm proposing to you is that what's happening in a higher state of consciousness is that people are slowing in their capacity to cognitively perceptually and even with the very machinery of their self get an optimal grip on both the world and themselves and that's why this relation is experienced as so intensely powerful and so intensely revealing now this would help to make sense of things because again if there's a deep continuity between the higher states of consciousness and things like flow and insight that would help to explain why the disruptive strategies are so important for getting into the higher states of consciousness because disruptive strategies are central as I mentioned to insight you have to break break up the bad framing now you can do that by using mindfulness and breaking frame you also are naturally disposed to do this your mind wonders your mind distracts you from your task and many of us find this annoying it's like oh like and I keep my mind on something but why is mind wandering so hard wired into us and one of my former students and now colleague and good friend Zach Irving is becoming one of the world experts on mind wandering I would point you to his work if you want to go into it in depth what I would want to say for here and I think Zach would agree with me on this is that one of the things that mind wandering does is enhances your capacity for insight because by distracting you from how you frame the situation it can help you return and break up that fixated frame and there's work by Seagull and others showing that moderate amounts of distraction actually enhance your cognitive flexibility the reason why we mind wander amongst other reasons I'm not saying it's the sole reason but one of the things it does is it helps disrupt our framing so that we can break frame and make a new frame that's often why and this is why people have built a whole mythology around incubation go and sleep on it or go for a walk or take a shower basically what you're doing is a disruptive strategy of distraction right as I mentioned you can deliberately more deliberately engage into disruptive strategy through mindfulness practices we know experimentally that if you give a person problem and you introduce entropy noise into the problem a moderate amount that can help them have an insight and we know for example that when your brain is engaging in insight there's good reason to believe as I've mentioned that there's a significant shift we talked about this between the left and the right hemisphere that's an internal disruptive strategy so your brain has all these strategies and you can learn some psychotechnologies that enhance all this powerful disruption so the disruptive machinery that's integral to insight can be exacted and enhanced to bring about a higher state of consciousness so what the what these all of these disruptive strategies do within site is what's called the automation so you remember with the nine dot problem you automatically and remember this because we're going to need this when we talk about other things like stoicism you automatically unconsciously saw it as a square you framed it in terms of the square you automatically unconsciously right formulated it as a connected the problem and then that automatic framing blocks you from solving it and in order to get out of that you have to de-automatize your cognition now we talked about this when we talked about attentional scaling and mindfulness just reminding you that what's happening in these disruptive strategies is very significant the automatization something else is going on with these disruptive strategies what these disruptor strategies do is they increase the variation in your processing often by introducing a lot of noise right a lot of entropy into your processing you're increasing the variation in what you're paying attention to.
what processes you're activating in your brain. You're just increasing the variation. Now, why is increasing variation good? Increasing variation is good because when I increase the variation, what I can do is get more awareness of what's invariant. As I, the more I vary what I'm doing, the more I become aware of what's not changing. All right? So as I move around this object, right? Lots of stuff is varying, but its shape is remaining constant to me throughout the variation. And that's why I think of the shape as more real because it's invariant through all this variation. So when I increase the variance, I'm more able to pick up on what's invariant. Now, the thing we need to know is that there are two kinds of invariants. Two kinds of things that are not changing in your attempts to get a grip on the world. There's good invariants and bad invariants. What's good invariants? By opening up the variation, I pick up on bigger patterns that aren't changing, that are real patterns in the world. This is what goes on in deep learning networks. You pick up on much more complex patterns of invariants. You get more in contact with what's really going on. Again, think about what you do when you want to make sure what something is. You increase the variation, not only am I looking at it, I'm touching it, I increase the variation to find out what's invariant because if I have increased variation and I find out what's invariant in it, that often tells me what's more real. That's good, right? So, that can get me real patterns. But there's also bad invariants. Bad invariants, right, is like what's happening when you're trying to solve the nine dot problem. You keep trying to solve it and you keep failing to solve it because there's something you need to change that you're not changing. Bad invariants are ways in which you're formulating your problems, framing your experience that's actually blocking you from solving your problem. So, Kaplan and Simon in 1990 talked about a heuristic, a strategy we use called the notice invariant heuristic. This is the idea. Across all of your different problem formulations that are failing, you keep doing this and you keep doing it and I can't get it. I can't get it. I can't get it. When you increase the variation, you can then apply the notice invariant heuristic. What am I not changing in all of these failures? What am I not changing in all of my failed framings? Because very often what you're not changing is precisely what you need to change. And so the notice invariants heuristic can help you break bad framing that has been causing your failure. Now, this of course requires humility on your part. There's a wide of deep connection between wisdom and humility I would suggest. Paying attention, remembering your failures such that you can apply this would be very helpful. Now, let's talk about, this is one problem they were talking about Kaplan and Simon. But what if I don't just have one error here, but I have a whole system of errors? So very often when you look at cognitive development, you take the two-year-old, sorry, four-year-old because they can count. You count out the five candies. They can count. They know that there's five here and there five here, but they will reliably choose that. Row, five candies. Why? Because the amount of space taken up is super salient to them. We've talked about this before. It misleads them. But they don't just make this error with candies. They make this error systematically. They make this error all over the place in many different domains. It is a systematic error. So I can reliably predict that the four-year-old will not only be making this error, they'll be making errors about seriation, about trying to line objects up in terms of increasing height, they'll have difficulties, etc. So it's not just one error, it's an entire system of errors. And the way you go through a developmental change, what kids do, is they find, right? They find a systematic pattern of errors, and they find an insight. It's not just about one problem, but an insight that will apply systematically to all of those interconnected, interrelated errors. And when they have that systematically penetrative insight, when they found that nexus of errors, so they can massively intervene on themselves, then they go through a developmental change, and they grow up cognitively. They mature. And that is what can be going on in the enlightenment experience. By opening up the variation massively, you can not only connect to what's more real and feel more connected to the world, remember the world, you can get below the ways in which you are being held back in your own development. You can zero in on the systematic errors and afford a radical developmental change, as the adult is to the child, the sage is to the adult. You can go through, you can get one of the hallmarks of wisdom, what McGee and Barbara called seeing through illusion into what is real. Okay. So we're still not done this discussion, because this is pivotal, trying to understand these higher states of consciousness. It's pivotal to understanding the power, the legacy of the actual revolution, and therefore what we need to salvage from it. We do not believe in its two world mythology, but we cannot afford to abandon all of this powerful psychotechnology of intervention, of self transformation, of self transcendence, of the cultivation of wisdom, and ultimately the deep enhancement of meaning in life, by bringing about a developmental harmony within, and a powerful conformity and connectedness to the world without. So next time, I want to continue and complete the discussion about the higher states of consciousness. Thank you very much for your time.
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The lecture explores higher states of consciousness, like enlightenment, which are central to Axial Age philosophies and involve experiencing reality as more vivid, integrated, and "real" than everyday awareness.
These states are characterized by intense clarity, beauty, a sense of oneness, inner peace, joy, and a transformed or diminished ego, often leading to profound life transformations.
Disruptive strategies (e.g., meditation, fasting, psychedelics) can induce these states, which share features with flow and insight experiences, enhancing cognitive flexibility and the sense of meaning through deepened coherence and understanding.
A descriptive and prescriptive theory is needed to explain the psychological and neurological mechanisms of these states and to assess their claim to provide legitimate access to a deeper reality.
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This lecture segment examines higher states of consciousness, such as the enlightenment achieved by the Buddha, which are problematic yet foundational to many world religions and philosophies. These states are described as feeling more "real" than ordinary consciousness, featuring intense perceptual clarity, a sense of the world's beauty and aliveness, profound inner peace, joy, and a transformed or egoless self. They often arise from disruptive practices like meditation or fasting and share continuities with flow and insight experiences, particularly in enhancing attentional scaling and cognitive flexibility.
The experience fosters a deep sense of coherence and connection to reality, which empirical studies link to increased life meaning and positive personal transformation. The discussion underscores the need for a multi-level theory—bridging psychology, cognition, and neuroscience—to descriptively explain these states and prescriptively evaluate their claim to offer authoritative access to a deeper reality, thereby justifying the radical life changes they inspire.
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The meaning crisis refers to a modern sense of disconnection from meaning and purpose. The series explores historical and philosophical perspectives, such as the Axial Age and figures like Buddha, to understand and awaken from this crisis.
The two modes are the 'having mode' and the 'being mode.' The having mode is focused on possessions and external achievements, while the being mode emphasizes inner states and authentic existence.
Mindfulness is a practice of focused attention that operates through attentional scaling. It enhances cognitive flexibility and insight by allowing individuals to observe thoughts and experiences without judgment.
Higher states of consciousness are altered states regarded as more real than everyday consciousness. They are problematic because they challenge our usual criteria for reality, which rely on coherence with everyday experience.
Common features include a sense of clarity, beauty, and oneness in the world; inner peace, joy, and a transformed self; and a profound feeling of connectedness or identification with reality.
Disruptive strategies, such as meditation, fasting, or psychedelics, alter normal cognitive functioning to induce higher states. They help break existing mental frames, facilitating insight and new perspectives.
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