Ep. 102 | 3 Terrifying Cults You've Never Heard Of...
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The transcript blends three distinct narratives: one about seasonal change, one about a product launch at Taco Bell, and three detailed case studies of cults. The seasonal metaphor illustrates how people gradually embrace new states, like autumn, through subtle, personal experiences. This theme is contrasted with the commercial rebranding of a Taco Bell product, the Crispy Chicken Crunch Wrap Slider, now available with a spicy kick, reflecting consumer trends. Then, the narrative shifts to examine three cults from different regions: in rural Sweden, a charismatic Christian group led by Helge Fosmo and Osa Valdau evolved into a closed, hierarchical community where spiritual manipulation, isolation, and physical violence were used to control members. The group’s leader, Fosmo, orchestrated the murder of his first wife and later instructed a follower to kill another, resulting in multiple deaths. In Uganda, a movement claiming to restore the Ten Commandments attracted thousands who surrendered all possessions, only to be systematically killed in a mass extermination after failed prophecies. The leaders vanished, and no bodies were properly identified or buried. In Los Angeles, a wellness cult led by Katie Ann Griggs, styled as Guru Jagat, used spiritual branding, celebrity endorsements, and visually staged rituals to attract followers, while maintaining strict control through obedience, isolation, and psychological manipulation. Despite appearing modern and appealing, the group replicated core cult behaviors. The cases collectively show how cults exploit vulnerability, fear, and a desire for belonging, using religious or spiritual narratives to manipulate, isolate, and ultimately destroy individuals. These stories underscore the dangers of unchecked authority, the power of belief, and the tragic consequences when false promises of salvation go unfulfilled.
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for limited time and while supplies last when you imagine a cult you probably picture white robes and
candlelit rooms hidden deep in a forest somewhere far from civilization and sometimes that's exactly
what it is but sometimes a cult is just a convincing voice telling you that everything
is going to be better if you just buy a cheap course and sometimes it truly is selling everything
you own to join a higher cause the shape changes the promises change but the core
always seems to stay the same every cult needs three things a charismatic leader a method of
manipulation and eventually more often than not a great tragedy so this is the story of three cults
on three different continents that all followed a similar playbook and all eventually failed horribly
crime conspiracy cults serial killers and murder all things that i love to consume and i know you
do too you sick twisted me
and i'm glad you're here i'm glad you're here we're diving into three different cults it's been
a minute since we did a three-parter so without further ado let's unbuckle our seatbelts go
mock fight on the highway sample the brakes and bust through the switch you'll into these three
cults together
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find each other a jacket meets a dress a hoodie slips beneath a blazer an old cap finds a new
scarf because you don't simply step into the season you create it layer by layer until it
finally feels like fall find fall your way at ross
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in the quiet swedish village of knutby you first need to understand the man in the center of it
helge arnold fosmo was born on july 27 1971 to norwegian parents in björneberg a small village
in vernon county sweden and his family wasn't particularly religious but when fosmo was around
10 years old something shifted he joined the scouting organization of the mission covenant
church in his village and by age 11 he had declared himself a born again christian and
it was a decision that would define the rest of his life and in high school in christineham he
threw himself into religious community work volunteering at a christian youth cafe and
becoming deeply embedded into that world and at 17 he met a young woman named helena johansson
the woman who would become his wife eventually and two years later in 1989 he joined the
pentecostal church in christineham where helena was also a member and after graduating he enrolled
in carlstead university to become a science teacher but eventually dropped out and returned
to teach at his old school in björneberg so by 1993 he was deepening his involvement with
charismatic christian movements specifically a group called jaspies which drew its inspiration
from olfekman lievetsord which was a mega church built around the word of faith movement
and the word of faith theology taught that prayer was a direct pipeline to god's provision
physical healing financial prosperity emotional restoration any desire you could name if you
prayed for it according to god's plan would be given to you only it was that easy but fosmo was
drawn in completely to this but a few months later he left jaspies and rejoined the pentecostal church
but this time as a youth pastor in christianity
and it was here in 1993 that fosmo would meet a woman who would change everything a woman named
osa valdao now osa valdao was born on october 26 1965 and she had trained at a pentecostal bible
school in stockholm studying theology and by 1990 had been hired as a youth pastor at a pentecostal
church in upsala but that chapter didn't last and she was actually forced to resign following her
divorce and other tensions and she was forced to resign and she was forced to resign and she
was forced to resign and she was forced to resign and she then moved to knutby a small village east
of upsala where she came to live with the valdao family and eventually married their son patrick
in june of 1994 but long before that marriage in march 1992 she had already begun part-time work
at the pentecostal congregation in knutby a small traditional church that had been established
during the pentecostal revival in sweden back in 1921 so before valdao arrived it was an unremarkable
congregation but under her influence that changed pretty quickly and she climbed the church's
hierarchy with startling speed and then made a move that should have raised every alarm bell
in the building she declared herself the bride of christ that's a pretty good promotion but
this wasn't just symbolic language nay nay it's a title that carries specific theological meaning
traditionally given to the church as a whole but valdao taught it literally she was and she
claimed the woman destined to marry christ himself and everyone in the congregation were basically
invited as guests to her wedding her her and christ's wedding so her theology took on an
intensely eschatological direction focused on the end of days on death and divine judgment
a tale as old as time for cults right and she preached a doctrine of pre-tribulationism
the belief that faithful believers would be raptured lifted bodily into the clouds
before the great tribulation arrived and valdao expected she would be taken to heaven like the
virgin mary united with her bridegroom you know jesus christ but she wanted a bigger audience
for this message the cult leaders are never just satisfied with like a couple people they're like
i need a mega church you know so she began traveling to other pentecostal communities
across sweden personally recruiting people to relocate to couldn't be permanent
and the congregation grew somehow but devoted followers arrived convinced they had found
something rare a community chosen by god himself and helge fosmo was among those drawn in the guy
we were talking about before before valdao so when he first met valdao in 1993 there was an
immediate spiritual connection and by 1997 he had uprooted his family entirely moving to canutby with
his wife and son and he was able to move to canutby with his wife and son and he was able to move to
canutby with his wife helena and their two children in august of that year and he and valdao began
working side by side launching a month-long training school for young christians across
sweden that ran three times a year and fosmo also founded a missionary organization called aid for
nations which organized bible schools in india and hong kong and together they were building
something formidable and fosmo claimed he received messages from god directly how convenient
it was to be able to do all the things that god wanted to do and to be able to do all the things
that god wanted to do and to be able to do and to be able to do all the things that god wanted to do
and to be able to do all the things that god wanted to do and to be able to do all the things that god
wanted to do and to be able to do all the things that god wanted to do and to be able to do all the
things that god wanted to do and to be able to do all the things that god wanted to do and to be able
to do all the things that god wanted to do and to be able to do all the things that god wanted to do
and to be able to do all the things that god wanted to do and to be able to do all the things that god
wanted to do and to be able to do all the things that god wanted to do and to be able to do all the
i'll take that one that one i'm just kidding no but seriously he he said that he had a direct line
to god and valdao claimed to be god's chosen bride as we know so each one reinforced the
other's authority and their combined influence over the congregation became total and the
congregation became increasingly isolated from the broader pentecostal network around it
by the late 1990s other churches in the region were growing alarmed and pastors from kanupi
had stopped attending shared events longtime members were quietly leaving put off by the
leadership style. And the families of people still inside were reaching out to church authorities
even, desperately trying to maintain contact with loved ones who seemed to have disappeared
into the community. Again, cult 101, you got to isolate. You got to isolate people so they don't
actually talk to other people and realize what they're doing is a little nutty, you know? But
nobody could say exactly what happened inside. But we know something was wrong. Because at its
height, the Kanupi congregation had somewhere between 90 and 100 members. And it operated like
a corporation, but a spiritual one, a strict pyramid, structural with Osa Valdau at the top.
And beneath her sat a tier of elders, pastors who included Vosmo himself, and held enormous
authority over ordinary congregants. And every member was organized into teams, each led by a
team leader. And members were expected to consult those leaders on,
all matters of spiritual guidance. But this wasn't framed as a church hierarchy. It was
framed as obedience to God. So if you didn't go through your team leader, you weren't just
ignoring a rule. You were defying the will of God himself. Former members speaking years later for
the HBO docuseries, Pray, Obey, Kill, describing the suffocating atmosphere inside. The congregants
were required to maintain what they called peace around the bride of Christ. And if that peace was
disturbed, if anyone caused friction or disruption, it was taught that this would delay the second
coming of Jesus. Those are pretty big sticks, man. Like if you just talked a little too loud or you
interrupted the bride of Christ, she's like, ah, that's it. He's not coming for another 10 years.
And it's all Jimmy's fault. And Jimmy's like, I didn't know, you know, how convenient for the
cult leaders. They just keep pushing it back every time they just get a little bit pissed, just so
they can keep the cult going. So the weight of that responsibility naturally kept people silent.
And if silence wasn't enough, there were other methods. And the first was isolation. Members were
cut off from family members who questioned the church. So the only people you could turn to,
the only community that you had were people already inside. People who would always steer
you right back toward compliance. And the second was spiritual manipulation.
Because Valdau and Fosmo used prophecies, visions, and claimed divine communication to steer
individual members. These visions would be announced about specific people in the congregation,
like messages that told them what to do, where to go, who to be with, but essentially comply
and God's blessing followed, you know, and refuse and his favor would be withheld.
Now, Fosmo even claimed that God, I shit you not, was texting him directly on his mobile phone.
What carrier is God using? I must know. And Fosmo would forward these messages as,
divine instructions to the others in the congregation. Because of course, in reality,
Fosmo was writing the messages himself and sending them anonymously to Svensson,
a member of the congregation, and claiming them to be divine commands, right? Classic,
classic cult leader stuff. So it was just a new kind of manipulation dressed in ancient clothing.
And the third method was physical. So for those who didn't fully buy in, that was met with violence.
So for those who didn't fully buy in,
And former members described a punitive culture within the congregation that allegedly included
Valdau biting people in the face and also stabbing someone with a fork and slamming members' heads
against walls. Did God tell you to do that one too? Did he do that?
So the threat of physical consequences was always in the background. And Valdau also
reportedly exercised control over members' most private lives, dictating their
sexual conduct, sometimes forbidding relationships outright and assigning new ones herself. So this
dynamic bled directly into Fosmo's marriage. And while wed to his second wife, Alexandra,
he carried on a sexual relationship with multiple women in the congregation,
including the family's nanny, Sarah Svensson. So that's the person he's texting me like,
man, God just told me we gotta go in the closet and just do seven minutes in heaven. It's where I
know it. Like my wife is, she's like, I guess if God said so, you know, so I guess, you know,
see you there at 3.30 maybe after I'm done eating my chocolate cake from earlier. So, so sick and
disgusting. And even later he would have relations with his neighbor's wife, Annetta. And the
arrangement with Sarah Svensson was striking in it's just brazenness because she had originally
arrived as the family's nanny, but moved into the master bedroom with Fosmo. Well, Alexandra, his own
wife slept in the guest room. What a dick. And Fosmo justified this by calling it spiritual rather
than carnal because their relationship wasn't adultery. He would say it was heavenly love,
an act of God, something God said, thumbs up, Fosmo, do what you would do it. You do what you
gotta do, bud. So there were lots, lots and lots and lots of red flags in the beginning,
but the affairs weren't even the worst ones. And it would actually be a death.
Because on December 18th, 1999, Fosmo discovered his first wife, Helena, dead in the bathtub of
their home. And investigators found a hole in her skull and a toxic concentration of opioids
in her system, but ruled her death an accident. And her husband sold her belongings within days
and falsified certain documents tied to her death. But nobody connected those dots at the time.
And within months, Fosmo would remarry and his new wife,
was Alexandra Bjork, which was Osa Valdau's younger sister. The one that he eventually
kicked out into the guest bedroom because he invited the nanny into the master bedroom. Just
a mess. So the two cult leaders were now bound together by family though, because he was married
to Valdau's younger sister. So the congregation processed Helena's death through the lens of
their apocalyptic theology. God's kingdom was coming soon, they believed. And Helena had simply
been just taken home first when she clearly was murdered by her husband, but they believed she'd
be there just waiting for the rest of them. It was a comforting story that worked and held for a
little while. Then came the hammer. So in the early morning of November 8th, 2003, Sarah Svensson crept
into Fosmo's home and attacked Alexandra with a hammer while she slept. And Alexandra woke and fought
back and managed to call for help. And the assault was never reported to police. And instead,
Svensson was quietly sent away from the community to live with her father in southern Sweden. Removed
like just a problem to be managed. And shortly after, Fosmo and Alexandra flew to Hong Kong for
the Bible school that Aid for Nations was running. And from thousands of miles away,
Fosmo resumed contact with the banished Svensson through text messages. Messages she,
believed, were being forwarded from God himself. Again, what carrier is he using? I need to know.
And one message in particular was calculated and cold. Because God, or Fosmo told her, would not
show her mercy until she completed what she had started. And he then instructed her to acquire
a handgun. No small task in Sweden, by the way, very difficult. And she was told to shoot Alexandra.
And she was also told to shoot Alexandra. And she was also told to kill their neighbor, Daniel Lind, whose wife, Fosmo, had been sleeping
with. Just a greedy, disgusting, monster bastard. And Svensson believed every word. Because in her
mind, she wasn't planning a murder. She was just carrying out a divine command.
So on January 10th, 2004, at approximately 4.40 in the morning, Sarah Svensson entered the Fosmo
home and walked to the master bedroom where Alexandra lay sleeping. And she would fire three
shots. And Alexandra Fosmo would die instantly. And Svensson then walked roughly 100 meters to
the neighboring home, belonging to 30-year-old Daniel Lind. And he answered the door at her
knock and she aimed and fired, hitting him in the head and chest. And his jaw was also shattered
and his teeth were destroyed. And at that point, he was bleeding severely. But against every odd,
he managed to call emergency services and he would survive.
Oh, your God didn't plan that, did he now? Didn't send you a little text update to be like,
ah, you gotta go back and finish the job. Sucks when that doesn't actually work, you know? Sucks
when you're actually making it up, you know? But luckily, he survived. And that's when Fosmo,
you know, awoke because he had no idea what was going on, even though he planned the entire thing
and told Svensson to murder these two people. And he claimed to accompany Daniel Lind into the
police station. He was questioned shortly after, and his account was almost offensively simple.
He just said, I'd been asleep in the other room and I didn't hear anything. I didn't hear a gun
go off. What was that? Five times. Really heavy sleeper. God's got me on some NyQuil. It's crazy.
And the following day, January 11th, Sarah Svensson walked into a police station and she would
actually confess to both shootings. Thank goodness. And she guided investigators to the evidence
herself.
which were shoes in a dumpster and a silencer in a store.
small bag and a gun at the bottom of the lake.
And she told them she had acted alone.
But fortunately, investigators didn't believe her
'cause the more insistently she claimed sole responsibility,
the more certain they became that someone else was involved
and eventually they were right.
So under questioning, Svensson's account started to crack
and she revealed that she had been receiving
anonymous text messages she believed to be divine commands,
messages that had been forwarded to her by Helge Fosmo.
And the text urged her to kill Alexandra,
framing it as mercy.
Because Alexandra had just lived out her time on earth
and was destined for heaven.
So it was a quote unquote kindness.
And Fosmo had encouraged her through Bible passages
and up to 44 exchanges of text messages per day.
And he had told her that God would not grant her mercy
if she failed to act.
And investigators recovered
and erased messages from her phone confirming her account.
And Fosmo and Annetta Lind, Daniel's wife,
with whom Fosmo had been having an affair with,
were both arrested.
Karma's a bitch, you monsters.
So wiretapping established that Svensson and Fosmo
had been lovers and the manipulation pattern
was unmistakable.
And forensics moved quickly to build a case,
but there was no physical evidence directly tying Fosmo
to the scene, no fingerprints and no ballistics.
But the digital trail through hundreds of inciting messages
combined with the witness testimony
from congregation members about his history
of psychological control was damning.
And investigators would luckily reopen the case
of Helena Fosmo's death, his first wife.
And looking back at evidence with fresh eyes,
they determined that her head wound
couldn't have been caused by a fall.
And worse, the opioids found in her system
hadn't been found in her stomach.
Meaning that the substance hadn't been administered
in an invasive way, almost certainly against her will,
which it's just so frustrating to think,
like it's just so blatantly looked over.
It's, I mean, at least her family knows now
and everybody knows now, but what an injustice.
Her and Alexandra is just absolutely horrible.
But they would see that she had been poisoned.
But despite everything that pointed toward foul play,
the evidence still wasn't sufficient
to secure a conviction against Fosmo for Helena Fosmo.
And the murder of Helena Fosmo was a murder of the same name.
isolated congregation in rural Sweden.
But what happened next in the hills of Southwestern Uganda
operated on an entirely different scale.
This wasn't one or two manipulators and a hundred followers.
This was a machine with three engines,
each one drawing from a completely different world
and together producing something far more powerful
and far more deadly than any of them could have built alone.
But understand the movement for the restoration
of the 10 commandments of God,
mouthful of a name, by the way,
you first need to understand the woman at the heart of it.
Credonia Mwe Rinde was born on July 30th, 1952
in Bugarama Village in Tungamo District, Uganda.
And she was the daughter of Paolo Kashaku,
a retired Roman Catholic catechist, a lay religious teacher,
who would prove to be far more significant to the story
than his humble description suggests.
So Credonia dropped out of school young
and her early adult life was marked by turbulence
as her first husband would pass away
and her second husband would pass away not long after.
By the time she married her third husband, Eric Mazima,
a wealthy older man who already had taken six wives
before her, she had outlived two marriages
and carried the reputation that followed.
So the marriage to Mazima was,
was difficult and Credonia was unable to conceive with him
despite having children in her earlier relationships.
And she suffered severe convulsions she believed
were caused by the spirits of his previous wives.
So to contribute to the household,
she worked as a barmaid and shopkeeper running
what became known as the Independence Bar in Kanugu.
And it was a prestigious establishment.
And it was kind of a place that locals associated
with prostitution and some sources, including some
that may trace back to Morindey herself,
described her as a former Lady of the Night.
But that claim is contested by scholars,
some of whom believe the Lady of the Night narrative
was deliberately constructed to parallel the story
of Mary Magdalene, lending Morindey
a kind of biblical resonance.
And don't even get me started on Mary Magdalene, dude.
All that stuff about her being a Lady of the Night
and a prostitute, it's all like baloney made up by some
pope and so we can make a whole video about it.
I'll get into it later anyway.
So whether it was true or fabricated or self applied,
it became part of how the outside world understood her.
So it's important to know.
And then on August 24th, 1988, something would change.
And Morindey woke and told Mazima she had received
a vision from the Virgin Mary.
And Mary, she said, had instructed her
to divorce him immediately.
And she continued to experience these visions,
particularly a cave site called Nyakeshanyi.
Sorry if I'm saying these wrong,
but it was a place in Uganda associated
with the fertility goddess Nyebingi.
And they would slowly transform her
into something none of her husbands, her neighbors,
or even herself could have anticipated.
So that's our first cog in this engine.
Does that make sense?
I don't know how engines work, but pretty crazy.
She's starting out with some,
some pretty elaborate visions happening right now.
You know, what could go wrong?
And the second cog or, you know,
bracket thing of the movement
came from a very different direction.
Joseph Kibwederay was born in 1932 in Kishariro
in Entugamo district.
And unlike Morindey, Joseph was a man of standing,
educated, well-connected, and genuinely respected.
And he actually attended a Catholic secondary school and went
on to join St. George's teacher training college
in Abanda in 1955.
And by 1956, he was headmaster at Rushuka primary school.
And by 1959, he had been promoted to assistant supervisor
of Catholic schools across the region.
And he would marry Kereza Kuribakana in 1960,
a woman who later became secretary
of the Uganda Land Commission.
And together they would have eight children.
And by 1963, he was one of the most influential,
influential men in Catholic education in the country.
And he ran for political office in 1980
with the democratic party.
So on paper, Joseph was exactly the kind of man
you'd hold up as an example.
Stable, devout, accomplished.
But in 1984, he claimed to have begun experiencing visions
of the Virgin Mary.
Visions he said had been communicated to him
through Credonia Morindey,
the woman we talked about previously.
And he was actually prone to violence.
He suffered violent seizures.
And around 1998 to 1999, he was actually briefly detained
in a psychiatric facility for manic depression.
And somewhere in the space between his public life
and his private suffering, he had become susceptible
to what Morindey was selling.
So again, what could go wrong?
And the third cog pillar ratchet in this engine
was the one that lent the entire
movement its veneer of intellectual credibility.
And that person was Dominic Cattari-Babbo.
And he was a Roman Catholic priest.
So he's educated, he's polished, and he's highly regarded.
And in the mid 1980s, he traveled to the United States
on a scholarship arranged
through the Los Angeles Archdiocese,
earning a master's degree in religious studies
from Loyola Marymount University between 1985 and 1987.
And while he studied, he lived at St. Anthony's,
a parish rectory in El Segundo, California,
where priests who worked alongside him
remembered him as pleasant, conscientious, and humble.
A man who drove a donated car
to get between the parish and the university.
What a nice guy.
And he would leave the United States on July 10th, 1987.
So back in Uganda, Cattari-Babbo's American education
gave him an authority that money couldn't buy.
And his friend, then attorney, General Bart Katurebe,
described him as a model priest.
The last person anyone would expect
to fall into something like this.
But fall he did, fall he did.
And we will get into that now.
So in the early 1990s, Cattari-Babbo was excommunicated
from the Roman Catholic Church and joined a movement
that ran in direct opposition
to everything he had studied and believed.
Three people then, a woman from humble origins
who claimed visions from the Virgin Mary, a wealthy,
respected politician whose mental health
had made him vulnerable,
and a priest with an American master's degree
whose credentials would attract the educated and devout.
And together, they became the engine
of one of the deadliest cult massacres
in modern African history.
But the story of this movement didn't begin
with any of those three, actually.
It began decades earlier with a dead girl
and a grieving father, Credonia's father,
Paolo Kashaku, had lived most of his life
as an ordinary Ugandan Catholic catechist.
But in 1960, he reported a vision
of his deceased daughter, Evangelista,
who had died years before.
And in his vision, she told him
that he would receive messages from heaven,
predictions that would come true nearly 30 years later.
Similar to the one in Sweden.
There's messages from God, a streamline.
Streamline of communication, you know, how handy.
But it was in 1988, the same year,
Credonia claimed her first vision,
that Kashaku reported seeing Jesus Christ himself,
standing alongside the Virgin Mary in St. Joseph.
And they instructed him to use his land near Kanungu
as a gathering place for believers.
And he listened.
So by June of 1989, Kashaku instructed Credonia
and his granddaughter, Ursula, to travel across
Uganda, spreading the Virgin Mary's message.
And during that journey, the two women would arrive
at the home of Joseph Kibwetere.
And Mwe Rinde told him the Virgin Mary
had directed them to seek him out.
And Kibwetere was shaken,
not because the claim was outlandish,
but because it aligned too perfectly with his own experience.
'Cause he had seen an apparition of Mary
near his home five years earlier.
So the convergence felt to him like confirmation.
So together, Mwe Rinde and Kibwetere founded the movement
for the restoration of the 10 commandments of God in 1989.
And its message was urgent and absolute.
The world was ending and only those who strictly obeyed
the 10 commandments would survive.
Same as every other cult.
World's gonna end, gotta follow everything we say,
otherwise you won't go to heaven if the world ends.
And you got to stay away from your friends.
You got to stay away from your family.
It's just, you know, it's crazy.
It's crazy how it just works in the same cycle
and it works every time, but more often than not,
it ends in great, great tragedy.
And we will get to that.
But this was a message that resonated in Uganda
in ways that it might not have elsewhere.
'Cause the country had endured decades of political violence.
The AIDS epidemic was devastating communities
and people were living
in genuine fear of what tomorrow might bring.
So this was a movement that offered certainty
and salvation had fertile soil to grow
So the movement attracted Catholic priests and nuns
who found its theology compelling.
And among those who eventually joined
was the excommunicated priest, Paul Ikezere
and Dominic Ketare Babo.
But Ikezere would later leave
and return to the Catholic church.
And in doing so, he revealed something important.
Muerende was the true power in the movement.
And Kibweterre was the face,
the respectable masculine figurehead
who made the cult legible to the outside world.
But Muerende was the architect.
But Kashaku would die in 1991.
So the group relocated to his land near Kanungu,
the very site he had been instructed to offer to God.
And by October, 1993,
local villagers had grown hostile enough
to temporarily drive them out, but they would return.
And Ketare Babo sold three of his properties,
his car and his milling machine
to fund the growing community.
And by the late 1990s,
the movement had become a full-on compound
surrounded by pineapple and banana plantations,
swelling with new members
and accumulating significant assets
through mandatory donations from those who joined.
A tale as old as time.
And at its peak,
the movement had somewhere between 1,000 and 5,000 members.
And every one of them had given up everything
they had owned to be there.
But the stated goal of the movement was simple.
Follow the 10 commandments.
Preach the word of Jesus Christ, obey and be safe.
And the methods used to enforce that goal
were something else entirely though.
The movement enforced silence as religious discipline.
So members were sometimes prohibited from speaking at all
and required to communicate only through sign language.
And this was framed as a rigorous observance
of the ninth commandment.
"Thou shalt not bear false witness."
But as we can see from the outside looking in,
its practical effect was to sever members
from normal conversation, from family,
from the ordinary social bonds
that might otherwise allow someone to say something
isn't right here.
So days would pass in total enforced silence
and fasting was institutionalized.
And members were permitted only one meal a day,
Monday through Friday.
And they were isolated from outside food sources
and only crops grown on the compound's own lands
were permitted.
And soap was forbidden as a sinful indulgence
and sexual contact of any kind was prohibited,
not as a matter of waiting until marriage,
but as a permanent rejection of the flesh.
And the movement taught that AIDS was a divine punishment
for adultery and just sex itself was framed
as a gateway to damnation.
And the most potent tool as with every cult it seems
was spiritual manipulation.
And Weyrinde claimed to receive direct messages
from the Virgin Mary through what she described
as a hidden telephone system, not texting this time,
'cause she would actually communicate these messages
through everyday objects.
Not technically the handphone like I just demonstrated,
but objects like a rock or a piece of wood.
If you will.
And of course, only she could hear it.
But these messages were commands
and commands from the Virgin Mary were not to be questioned.
And nightly prayers were led
by 12 apostles called the entoumois,
six men and six women who were preparing the faithful
for the second coming of Christ.
And the compound was framed as Noah's Ark.
Those inside were safe and the world outside was lost.
And members had already surrendered,
their homes, their land, their cattle, their savings.
So there was nowhere left to go.
And that was by design.
Those who broke the rules faced starvation,
hard labor and physical abuse.
And the leaders naturally lived very differently of course,
as they all do.
'Cause they would live in a stone house
at the top of a hill surrounded by plantations insulated
from the deprivations they imposed on everyone else.
Very godly of you.
And children within the compound
fared no better than adults.
And they were actually used for child labor
and kept in unsanitary conditions.
And some were reportedly abducted from outside communities.
And Ugandan authorities became aware
of some of what was happening, but they wouldn't act.
And the movement's apocalyptic beliefs were codified
in a roughly 84 page tract called
"A Timely Message from Heaven:
The End of the Present Times."
It was originally written by Qatari Babo
and it elevated the leaders as, say it with me, prophets.
They always gotta be prophets.
And laid out the theology of imminent destruction
and served as a recruitment and indoctrination tool.
And new members were required to read it multiple times
before gaining full membership.
And a date was eventually set.
The world would end on December 31st, 1999.
The year, 2000,
would be year one of the new world.
This was like a widely thought belief as Y2K.
You know, this was when all the computers were gonna shut down
and the world's gonna end and planes were gonna crash.
This was like a very common thought among a lot of people.
A lot of people thought the world would end.
And a lot of churches,
a lot of these just predatory churches preyed on these people
like selling, you know, end of the world products.
And it was just a very, it was a crazy time.
I was pretty young, but you know, I remember the craziness.
So as the millennium approached,
the compound became increasingly frenzied.
In 1999, a Ugandan newspaper called the New Vision
ran an interview with a teenage male member of the movement.
And he told the paper that the world was going to end
within the year and that there was no time to waste
and that anyone who wanted to be saved
needed to confess their sins immediately.
And the interview spread fear and excitement in equal measure.
And members who had drifted away were reenlisting
and people were confessing sins around the clock
and workers abandoned the fields entirely
and new members arrived daily,
surrendering their possessions at the gates.
But January 1st, 2000 would come and go.
And as we know today, nothing really happened, did it now?
And the silence that followed was devastating.
Members who had sold their lives
and sold their land and given away their cattle
and severed ties with families who hadn't joined now
and had nothing and the prophecy that justified all of it
had simply failed to materialize.
And Mwe Rinde and Kibwe Tere faced something close to revolt
and members stopped making payments
and former members who had surrendered everything
demanded it back.
And Ugandan police took note of the unrest
and the leader's response was not to collapse,
nay, nay, can't give up now, you know, double down.
Why not?
It was to reset.
So, not unlike a ton of other cults,
a new date was announced.
Guys, it's a new date.
We got it mixed up.
Virgin Mary called me on my water bottle, guys.
It's March 17th, March 17th.
Yeah, okay, confirm, might change.
Okay, just, it might change.
But as of right now, it's March 17th and it was.
It was March 17th, 2000, new date, new date.
And the Virgin Mary, her son,
herself would return on that day
to take the faithful to heaven.
But this time would be different
because they would have a proper ceremony, a true ascension.
The confusion of January was reframed as a test of faith.
Those who had doubted needed to recommit
and many of them did, unfortunately.
So on March 15th, 2000, Mwe Rinde went shopping.
She bought sodas in bulk and delivered invitation letters
to members across the region.
And on March 16th, the movement held what would prove
to be its final gathering, a massive celebration
that functioned as a farewell to the world.
And three bowls were roasted and around 70 crates
of soft drinks were provided, mostly Coca-Cola.
And members who had traveled from across Uganda gathered
at the Kanungu compound to mark the eve of their ascension.
And by all accounts, it resembled a last supper.
But on the morning of March 17th, 2000,
the congregation gathered at the church,
a building they called the Ark.
And as members poured in, some noticed that the windows
and doors had been boarded shut from the outside,
nailed closed.
Before anyone could fully register what that meant,
the building would explode and a massive fireball tore
through the structure and neighbors heard the blast
from a distance and rushed toward the compound to find
the church completely destroyed, engulfed in flames.
And the bodies of the deceased would be everywhere.
And the initial estimates placed the dead at 330 people.
But the number would rise.
Investigators pieced together what had happened.
'Cause two days before the fire on March 15th,
Katari Babo had visited a shopkeeper named John Musoke
in Kasese and purchased approximately
50 liters of sulfuric acid, signing the receipt,
Father Dominic, and paying around 167,000.
And he told Musoke the acid was needed to replenish batteries at a remote seminary.
And Musoke later recalled being uneasy about the quantity.
And police found this receipt at the compound.
And the acid, investigators believed, had been used alongside gasoline as an accelerant.
And a witness also reported encountering a cult member carrying nails and a hammer toward the compound that same morning.
But the fire was not the full extent of what had happened.
And four days after the blast, as authorities spread across the country to investigate every property the movement had ever occupied, the true scale of the horror began to emerge.
And at the Kanungu compound itself, six bodies were found sealed inside the latrine.
And at the Bohunga compound in Rutama, near Rukungiri, a site that had served as one of the movement's satellite communities, 153 bodies were unhooked.
And 59 of those bodies were children.
And at Dominic Katari-Babo's estate in Rugazi, Buchenre district, police found two separate killing sites.
And in the yard and sugarcane field, 74 bodies were exhumed.
And inside the house itself, investigators noticed that the floor of one of the bedrooms had been freshly poured with concrete.
And Katari-Babo's nephew told investigators that his uncle had claimed he was digging up a hole in the floor.
And Katari-Babo's nephew told investigators that his uncle had claimed he was digging a pit for an underground refrigerator and even sold the property to the nephew just six days before the fire for the equivalent of about $3,300.
And when prisoners from a nearby jail were brought in to dig through the concrete, they found 81 more bodies packed beneath the floor.
And of those 81, 48 were children.
And many would have cloths ringed around their neck.
So the cause of death was assumed.
And others showed signs of stabbing, poisoning, and blunt force trauma.
And some bodies had even been partially dissolved in sulfuric acid.
And at the farm of a man named Joseph Naimu Rinda in Rushodwa, 81 more bodies were discovered, undress, packed tightly into a deep pit, and dead for approximately a month.
And at the farm of a man named Joseph Naimu Rinda in Rushodwa, 81 more bodies were discovered, undressed, packed tightly into a deep pit, and dead for approximately a month.
In Buziga, an affluent suburb of Kampala, 55 more bodies were found in the house of Katari Babo, and they were buried beneath a chicken shed that had been built over the graves as deliberate concealment.
So by late March 2000, with preliminary counts from all sites combined, Ugandan police estimated the total dead at around 924.
And Vice President Speciosa Kazibwe,
said publicly that she believed the true number exceeded a thousand.
And for context, the Jonestown Massacre in Guyana in 1978, which I have covered,
this is the Jim Jones People's Temple, if you want to go watch that video, I have made that.
But until then, the most deadly single cult event in modern history had killed 918 people.
So if the 924 estimate was accurate,
the Kanungu Massacre,
had surpassed it.
And when forensic pathologists completed their formal examination months later,
the confirmed count was revised to 780.
The lower number reflecting the limits of what investigators could formally document,
given the scale and condition of the remains.
The 924 figure remained the most widely cited though,
but it was always just an estimate.
And the investigation that produced it was deeply imperfect.
But what nobody disputed was this,
the body showed clear evidence of murder.
People had been killed weeks or months before the fire,
and some had been dead for years.
So this was an organized extermination of anyone
who had become a liability.
Those who had demanded their money back,
those who had questioned the failed December prophecies,
those who had simply seen too much.
And the leaders,
were nowhere to be found.
And not one of them had been inside the church when it burned.
So Ugandan authorities moved quickly
in the immediate aftermath,
deploying investigators to every compound associated
with the movement before evidence could be destroyed.
But the resources available to them
were catastrophically inadequate for what they found,
because there were no body bags.
Investigators had only surgical gloves,
and some covered their faces with cypress leaves
because the smell was unbearable.
And the bodies were examined for only a few minutes each
before being reburied in trenches.
And mass graves were missed entirely.
And forensic work was rushed,
and in some cases corrupt.
And the official numbers that emerged from this process
were estimates as much as counts.
But the central question was,
where were the leaders?
And investigators were initially stumped.
And the forensic team and police had initially assumed that
Kibwete-Re,
Warinde, and the police,
and the others had been inside the church when it burned.
And a witness in Kanungu changed that assumption,
'cause they reported seeing both Kibwete-Re and Warinde
leaving the celebration in the early hours of March 17th
with packed suitcases.
And in April of 2000,
Ugandan authorities issued international arrest warrants
for six individuals.
Kibwete-Re, Warinde, Katari Babo,
publicity secretary Joseph Kasupan.
process
in atrocity without the tools or resources to do so.
And an attempt was reportedly made
by at least one person to revive the movement,
but it came to nothing, luckily.
But the Kanungu Massacre stands
as one of the deadliest cult events in recorded history,
with an estimated 924 dead across multiple sites.
And what made the movement so effective and so lethal
was the specific combination of conditions it exploited.
Uganda in the late 1980s and 1990s
was a country shaped by fear.
And there was a movement that offered certainty,
that named the fear and gave it a divine cause
and promised a way through,
and arrived at exactly the right moment
to recruit at scale.
And the three leaders each served a distinct function
in making the movement credible, as we know.
And I pray karma has gotten to all of them,
or God, whichever one came first.
But they all deserve
a special seat in hell.
But to this day, no one connected with the leadership
of the Movement for the Restoration
of the Ten Commandments of God
has seen the inside of a prison.
And there is no memorial at the site of Kanungu.
And there are no graves marked with names.
There is quite literally only the long, quiet wait
of what happened.
A wait that survivors and the families of the dead
have carried alone.
So my heart goes out to
every single one of those people.
It's just, it's hard to even fathom
or understand how that could be going on,
just somewhere around the globe, so.
And the fact that I've never even heard about this
until I researched it.
It's one of the most devastating cases I've ever read,
and it is, nobody knows about it.
So that is why I wanted to cover it today.
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was different in almost every way that didn't matter.
And identical in every way that did.
This cult operated in the open,
in Venice Beach, Los Angeles.
It had a website, a streaming platform,
a clothing line, and a record label, and a foundation.
And its leader gave lectures at Harvard Divinity School,
and celebrities attended its classes
and posted about it on Instagram.
And it looked, from the outside,
like exactly what it claimed to be.
A modern wellness studio,
run by a charismatic, spiritual entrepreneur.
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Katie Ann Griggs was born on August 30th, 1979,
on a farm in Fort Collins, Colorado.
And her mother, Nancy Ann Steinhorn Galloway,
was a farmer, a movement therapist,
and by some accounts, a physical comedy performer,
or a therapeutic clown, if you will,
which I can't help but just think of.
Of Robin Williams when he acts like a clown in the hospital.
Why can't I remember that movie name?
But essentially that.
But her father would leave the family
when Katie was a year old,
and she was raised largely by her mother and her stepfather,
a man who went by Rabbit Galloway,
his legal name, and her brother.
Katie grew up steeped in New Age spirituality.
The idea of aligning your body, mind, and soul,
of tuning your chakra, as the practice framed it,
was not something she encountered
as a teenager and decided to explore.
It was the water she swam in from childhood.
And one family story captures it perfectly.
At around seven or eight years old,
she gathered her family around the dinner table
and made them stare at a candle flame in silence.
And whether it was meditation or performance or both,
it was the same impulse that would define
the rest of her life.
She wanted people's attention.
Not unlike a lot of other people in Los Angeles,
but this is significant.
This is significantly worse.
She just wanted to be the one in the center.
And her friends from childhood remembered her that way,
focused on the spotlight, on being adored,
and on becoming famous.
And she was a theater kid, a performer,
someone who understood instinctively how presents work.
And after high school,
Katie enrolled at City University in New York
in the early 2000s,
where she was introduced to Ashtanga yoga.
But college would bring something else too, something awful.
And that is S.A.
And that trauma would pretty much destabilize everything.
And she would stop attending classes properly,
started going to parties and use drugs
to manage what she was carrying.
And eventually, she would drop out,
but she would rebuild slowly.
And she would return to college,
but this time completing a bachelor's degree
in liberal arts at Antioch College in Ohio,
studying English, poetry, and humanities.
And she experimented with different names during this period.
Athena Day, Katie Day, Kundalini Katie,
each one kind of a reinvention,
a way of shedding one's skin and stepping into another.
And it was shortly after September 11th, 2001,
while working in a fashion showroom in New York,
that she walked into a Kundalini yoga class
for the first time.
And within minutes,
she felt something she later described
as a surge of energy traveling up her spine
and out through the top of her head.
And it was the feeling she said that she had experienced
as she had been looking for her entire life.
So the stage had been found
and the performance would follow.
So Katie's entry into Kundalini yoga
was an introduction to a world
that would prove to have a much darker architecture
than it appeared.
'Cause Kundalini yoga, as it was practiced in the West,
had been introduced by a man named Parbhajan Singh Kalsuborn,
known publicly as Yogi Bhajan,
who traveled from India to Toronto, Canada to Los Angeles
in 1968.
A former customs inspector,
he became the face of Kundalini yoga in America
and established the 3HO Foundation,
healthy, happy, and holy.
And the timing was perfect.
'Cause the late 1960s were full of disillusioned
young Americans looking for spiritual direction.
And Bhajan was charismatic, authoritative,
and strategically brilliant.
And he built an empire worth hundreds of millions of dollars,
counting presidents, popes, and the Dalai Lama.
Among his connections.
And he founded Yogi Tea.
And he established Akal Security.
And he was, by every visible measure,
a beloved and respected spiritual figure.
But what was happening beneath that surface
would not become fully known for decades.
And after Katie's first class in 2001,
she committed to the practice completely.
And she visited Bhajan ashrams
and took part in the three-day white tantric yoga marathon.
In 2002, she met Bhajan face-to-face,
an encounter she described as transformative.
And she then came under the mentorship of a man named
Hari Jeewan Khalsa, a longtime Bhajan disciple,
whose real name was Steven Ochsenhandler.
Little bit different, but Hari Jeewan had served 18 months
in federal prison following a 24-month conviction
for his role in a telemarketing fraud scheme,
which involved fraudulent toner cartridge invoicing.
Whatever that is.
And when he was released,
he was a felon in his forties with limited options.
And he had found his footing
within the kundalini yoga community.
And he recognized something in Katie.
Charm, stage, presence, and beauty.
The ability to hold a room.
So he saw her as a vehicle
for what the kundalini yoga world badly needed.
A modern rebrand, a younger face.
Someone who could carry the legacy forward
into a world that had moved on from aging old.
And it was Katie who was able to do the same thing.
Katie became her mentor in the truest sense,
shaping her practice and her persona.
And Katie completed her kundalini yoga teacher certification
in 2004, the same year Yogi Bhajan died.
And before his death,
Bhajan had reportedly given her the spiritual name
Guru Jagat, meaning bringer of light to the universe.
That's not gonna help with her ego.
And she claimed this herself,
though the claim was disputed.
But what is clear is that
she began using the name publicly in 2012,
and that by the time she fully embraced it,
it had become more than a name.
It was a brand, a costume, and a throne all at once.
So for years before the studio opened,
she built her base slowly.
Teaching classes from her living room,
running a website, cultivating a following
through proximity and personality.
And then in 2013, the pieces came together.
And together with Hari Jiwon, she founded the
Brahma Institute for Applied Yogic Science and Technology
Angeles. That sounds like a lot of bullshit. But she was now officially Guru Jagat. And the
institute was framed as a place of transformation. Somewhere you could go to become wealthy,
empowered, beautiful, and enlightened. And the promise, in other words, was literally everything.
And in the wellness culture of Los Angeles in 2013, that promise found a ready market. It would
today, honestly. And within months, celebrities were attending. Demi Moore, Alicia Keys, Kate
Hudson, Russell Brand. That one's not as surprising. And by 2014, the institute was successful enough
to open a second location in Boulder, Colorado. So every morning from 8.30 onwards, a parade of
predominantly white women made their way into the Venice studio. And Reishi cappuccinos from
the nearby organic grocery Erewhon in hand. And they were required to wear all white with head
wraps or turbans.
And hypnotic mantras by White Sun, a Grammy-winning band founded by Hari Jiwon,
poured from the speakers. And rainbow prayer flags hung above sheepskin rugs where
followers sat and waited. And glittery crystals, sacred ornaments, altar offerings, and the
photographs of Yogi Bhajan that decorated the walls. And at the front of it all, on a stage
surrounded by crystals and plants and a gong built for the rock band Van Halen, which is pretty cool,
not gonna lie.
At Guru Jagat, the whole thing was staged with extraordinary precision. Designed to be visually
overwhelming, to feel exclusive, and to photograph well, of course, because you can't be in Los
Angeles and what you do doesn't matter unless you post it. Okay? Because Rama, in the language of
the era, was extremely Instagrammable. And people came partly because they wanted to belong to
something that others would be jealous of. And that's why I'm here.
That desire was baked into the experience from the beginning. And Guru Jagat preached that there
was nothing spiritually incompatible between enlightenment and wealth. And that kundalini
yoga could help you achieve both. And she described herself as a serial entrepreneur.
And she wore white robes and large earrings and projected the image of spiritual leader
who was also a fashion icon slay. I'm just kidding.
And the practice involved repetitive physical movements, chanting, breathing, and
montage. And she said,
I'm out. I wouldn't get caught in this cult. That's way too early for me. I'm out. Won't be
there. But described by regular attendees as physically addictive, producing states of
euphoria. But behind the aesthetic and the celebrity validation, the structure was familiar.
And staff at Rama were required to demonstrate full devotion to the institute and to Guru Jagat
personally. And many were classified as independent contractors to sidestep labor
protections. And they worked around the clock, updating her social media, managing her schedule,
uploading classes, coordinating events, and were either unpaid or paid well below minimum wage.
And when Guru Jagat's temper ignited, which former employees described as happening with
explosive unpredictability, there was nowhere to go. And she reportedly called staff at three in
the morning with irrationality. And she said, I'm not going to do that. I'm going to do it. I'm
going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it.
So the environment was one of control maintained through fear. Sound familiar? And with total
devotion as the only safe posture. So while Guru Jagat was the public face, Haoriji Wan was running
the operation from the wings. And all significant decisions went through him first. And he was in
the structure that former staff later described the actual boss. And Guru Jagat was both his
instrument and his product.
And the final architecture of Rama was built on tiered extraction in online membership to
the Aquarian Women's Leadership Society costing around $727 a year. What the fuck? And in person
courses ran to $1,500 and retreat packages started at $2,000 and teacher training programs cost
$3,500. And Guru Jagat position was that spiritual peace was expensive. That spending money on your
equipment was itself a form of devotion. Duh. And the money she said didn't go to her. No. Given the
lavish lifestyle she maintained, former employees found that claim a little unconvincing, but the
institute would just keep expanding. And a third location opened in New York City in 2017 at 125th
Stanton Street on the Lower East Side. A converted gravestone shop converted into an alleged women
owned yoga studio. And a fourth opened in Mallorca, Spain. And Rama.
TV launched as a subscription streaming platform. And a record label followed. And a clothing brand
called Guru Jagat Collection. And a lifestyle brand called Robotic Disaster, which that one fits.
And a book, Invincible Living: The Power of Yoga, the Energy of Breath and Other Radiant Tools for
a Radiant Life, reportedly published in English, French, and German. And lectures at Harvard
Divinity School. And she taught yoga at Bonnaroo. And a podcast, Reality Riffing with Guru Jagat.
That eventually reached listeners in over 50 countries. And she also established the Rama
Foundation in 2016. A nonprofit offering scholarships to underrepresented communities
and donation-based space in South Los Angeles. Which just completed their picture. You know,
a spiritual empire with a philanthropic wing. And a guru who was also a brand.
But Katie Griggs had wanted to be famous since she was a child. And by every external measure, she hit
success. And for years, the cracks were internal. Contained with the walls of the studio. Absorbed
by the staff who had nowhere else to go. And former employees and students had been quietly
accumulating stories of abuse and manipulation for as long as Rama had existed. The explosive
temper. The 3am demands. The culture of fear. But these accounts circulated only among former
members. People who had left in trying to understand what had happened to them. But from the
outside, Rama still looked like what it had always appeared to be.
But then, in December of 2019, the architecture began to crack from the outside. And Pamela Sahara
Dyson, Yogi Bhajan, former personal secretary and one of his most senior administers,
published a memoir called Premka: White Bird in a Golden Cage. And the book was
a bombshell by all accounts. And Dyson described, in precise and devastating detail, how Bhajan
"had coerced her and other staff members into sexual relationships,
exerting control over their lives through spiritual manipulation,
using the language of devotion and divine will to justify rape and abuse."
And she wrote about the forced sexual relationship that resulted in a pregnancy.
And about Bhajan ordering her to have an abortion. And the book opened a door that had been locked
for decades, and dozens of other women walked through it with their own accounts.
So by March 2020, the Siri Singh Sahib Corporation, with the organization that managed
Bhajan's legacy, had commissioned a private investigation by a neutral third party called
an Olive Branch. And nearly 300 witnesses participated. And the report, published in
August 2020, was unsparing. And it concluded that Bhajan had almost certainly essayed three women,
caused physical injury to eight others during sexual encounters,
and engaged in non-consensual touching of nine more. And also shown inappropriate images to minors.
And directed women to engage inappropriate acts with each other in front of him. And/or with him.
Just a disgusting pervert. But the investigators estimated he had abused approximately
100 women over the course of decades. So his wildly promoted celibacy was a fabrication.
And his spiritual authority had been used as a weapon. Shocking.
And the report also identified financial exploitation, drug smuggling,
money laundering, and systemic abuse of children in 3HO boarding schools in India.
So the kundalini yoga world split immediately.
Studios cancelled kundalini programming entirely, and teachers publicly denounced Bhajan.
And the community that had built itself around his teachings faced an existential reckoning.
And Guru Jagat watched all of this, and made her choice.
She took to social media to defend yogi Bhajan. When pressed on the allegations by followers,
by journalists, by people who wanted to understand where she stood,
she framed him as a historical figure whose complexity needed to be understood in context.
Oh. What, bitch? The way one might understand a founding father.
And she told Vanity Fair she wasn't going to spend her days trying to figure out whether someone
like George Washington had done things she'd disagree with today.
Your ignorance is stupid. I hate you.
And Bhajan's image stayed on the walls of every Rama studio.
And his teachings remained central to the curriculum. And the institute didn't budge.
And Hari Jeevan's response was, if anything, a lot worse.
And in February of 2020, he posted a 52 minute video suggesting that Dyson had
fabricated her account for financial gain. Oh great. Victim blaming.
Awesome.
And he dismissed every allegation and defended Bhajan completely. And former 3HO members and Sikh
activists who spent years trying to bring Bajan's abuses to light were furious, naturally. And for
them, Rama's refusal to distance itself from Bajan was not just a failure of leadership,
it was an active choice to protect a system of abuse. And the public backlash intensified
rightfully so. And then came the pandemic. And with it, something began to slip in Guru Jagat
herself. She refused to comply with California's public health guidelines, and she declined to
promote vaccines. And her podcast became a vehicle for increasingly erratic content,
like claims that COVID-19 was caused by chemtrails, that artificial intelligence
was a tool of control, that global conspiracy was operating beneath the surface of daily life,
which, you know, I don't know about all of those, but maybe she had some points in there somewhere,
but I don't like her anyway, so she's just stupid. And she amplified QAnon content,
she discussed Pizzagate, she invited Holocaust denier David Icke,
and her conspiracy theorist author Furstenberg onto the podcast as guests.
Just go in full conspiracy mode, right? But again, the whole Pizzagate thing, that's,
that's, well, that was true, seeming like. Again, I'm not justifying anything she's doing or whatever,
but, um, it's, it's, it's incredibly ironic how she's saying all of this stuff about Pizzagate
and all this, like, government and all this stuff when she is involved in the same thing,
and she's still praising a person that was involved in similar things. It's just the most
hypocritical, she's so hypocritical, it's, it's infuriating. And the audience that had followed
her was not uniformly prepared for this turn, and enrollment began to drop. And the celebrities who
had once been photographed at Rama events grew quiet, and revenue declined. And on October of
2020, Guru Jagat was scheduled to appear at Alicia Keys' Soul Care Lounge, a high-profile
wellness event that would have restored some of her visibility to a mainstream audience. But Sikh
activists organized and protested her inclusions, and Keys removed her from the panel. So it was
just a public signal that the culture around her had shifted, and the platform she had built was
no longer usable. Now, there was no police investigation into Rama, no arrests, no charges.
What accountability existed was informal and more community-driven than anything. And in July of 2020,
an Instagram account called Rama Wrong,
and in July of 2020, an Instagram account called Rama Wrong, and in July of 2020, an Instagram account called Rama Wrong,
appeared, and operated by former Rama employees Nicole Norton and Becky Lavelle. And the account
became a gathering point, a place where former employees and students could share what had
happened to them and find others who understood. And stories accumulated really quickly, and
accounts of unpaid wages, psychological manipulation, the creation of culture where any questioning of
Guru Jagat was framed as a spiritual failing. And the wellness community that had once celebrated Rama
began to look at it very differently. And journalists started paying attention,
and enrollment continued to drop, and revenue did too. So the empire that had taken a decade to build
began to visibly deteriorate. And then in July of 2021, Guru Jagat broke her ankle while on a work
tour in Germany. She declined treatment there and flew back to Los Angeles for surgery. And her
mother later recalled the phone call she received from Europe, with her daughter scared in pain,
asking to come home.
And the surgery went ahead in Los Angeles, shortly after a pulmonary embolism developed,
which was a blood clot that traveled to her lungs. And on August 1st, 2021, at 9.07pm Pacific time,
Katie Griggs went into cardiac arrest. And she was only 41 years old at the time. And she would
pass away. So there was no trial, no criminal charges were ever filed, no sentencing to follow.
She died before any formal investigation could ever be launched. Not that one was particularly
imminent. But the abuses at Rama were real, but they were the kind that falls between the cracks
of legal accountability. Like wage theft and labor violations that are difficult to prosecute,
and emotional abuse in spiritual context that is harder still. And staff had signed contracts
classifying them as independent contractors, so civil suits were theoretically available,
but the state they would have been
filed against had almost nothing in it. And Guru Jagat's net worth at death was an estimated
around $500,000. And family and former employees described her as effectively broke or in debt,
with a money trail unclear. So she would be buried at Hollywood Forever Cemetery in Los Angeles.
And Harijanwan Khalsa, the man who had shaped her from the beginning, who had run the operation
from the sidelines, who had publicly defended a serial abuser and built a system of exploitation
alongside her, disappeared from public view entirely. His fate remains unknown. But he had
never been held accountable for anything. And the celebrities who attended Rama been
photographed at Rama and lent their names to Rama's credibility quietly just moved on.
What's accountability for celebrities, right? And most said nothing publicly. And some distanced
themselves with a word or two. But none of them faced any consequences for having normalized the
institution with their presence. And the victims were left with their trauma and their unpaid wages
and their lost years. And without Guru Jagat, Rama had no center. The entire structure had
been built around her personality and her presence. And without her, it began to dissolve almost
immediately. And the Venice flagship closed and the Boulder location closed and the New York City
studio closed and the Mallorca space would close. And Rama TV went dark and reality riffing would
end with Guru Jagat stopped uploading. And the clothing brand, the lifestyle brand, and the record
label all vanished. And the Rama Foundation, the non-profit, the scholarship programs, the donation
space in South Los Angeles dissolved. And former students were left to navigate the wreckage in
whatever way they could. And some continued practicing kundalini yoga independently, separating
the practice from the institution. And others abandoned it entirely, too damaged by the association to return. And it
was a community of former members formed around shared processing. In therapy groups, online spaces, the continued
work of @RamaWrong. And former employees described symptoms consistent with PTSD, nightmares, anxiety,
difficulty trusting others. And some were consumed by guilt for having participated, for having
recruited others, and for having defended the institution when it was still running. And some were
just angry and had no one to direct that anger toward. The person responsible was dead. Both of
them were dead. And the man behind the curtain had just fully disappeared. And the legal system had never
engaged. So there was nowhere for the feeling to go. But the story of Guru Jagat and Rama has been
extensively documented in the years since her death, including in the documentary Breath of Fire.
It became, in the language of wellness community that once embraced it, a cautionary tale.
But what it's a cautionary tale about is worth being precise. Rama was not a fringe operative.
It was not a big corporation. It was not hidden in a compound or an isolated rural community. It operated in
the most visible corner of America, wellness culture, validated by celebrity attendance and press coverage
and nonprofit with a social justice mission. The exploitation that ran through it, the wage theft, the psychological
abuse, the cult of personality built around a single charismatic figure, was all conducted in plain sight, dressed
in outfits and accompanied by Grammy-winning music for some reason. But the whole aesthetic was just a trap.
Because when everything looks clean and aspirational and expensive, and when the people around you are celebrities
and the studio is on Instagram and the Guru is on a podcast with hundreds of thousands of listeners, it becomes very difficult to say,
"This is a cult. This is exploitation. Something is wrong here." And the trappings of legitimacy were so carefully constructed that questioning them felt like a
personal failing, a sign that you weren't spiritually developed enough to understand what was being asked of you, if that makes sense.
And the defense of Yogi Bhajan in that context was not incidental. It was very revealing.
When Pamela Dyson's memoir forced every Kundalini teacher in America to choose a side, Guru Jagat's choice told her followers exactly what her loyalty structure looked like.
And a significant number of them remained anyway.
Because by that point, the investment was too deep, and the community was too real, and the alternative, which was accepting that something they had trusted had been built on exploitation, was too painful.
So the dynamic with the psychological difficulty of leaving something you've sacrificed for is the same in every cult, from the Swedish village to the Ugandan compound to a yoga studio in Venice Beach.
The specific details change, and the aesthetic changes, and the scale changes.
But the mechanisms don't.
And as long as people are searching for meaning, there will be someone ready to exploit that search.
So please be careful out there.
But that is that for this deep dive on three different cults, maybe ones you've never heard of.
I genuinely have never heard of any of these until somebody brought them up in the comments.
So please let me know other subjects or cults or people you want me to deep dive into.
I will do that, but until then I will see your beautiful face and please stay safe.
out there. Okay. Bye. Fall never arrives all at once. A jacket meets a dress. A hoodie slips beneath a
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Fall arrives gradually through sensory changes, where loved objects blend together, symbolizing a personal creation of seasonality.
Taco Bell reintroduced a spicy version of the Crispy Chicken Crunch Wrap Slider, highlighting a temporary, consumer-driven product launch.
Cults follow a consistent pattern
In Sweden, a charismatic Christian movement led by Helge Fosmo and Osa Valdau created a spiritually controlled, hierarchical group that eventually led to violence, including the murder of multiple members.
In Uganda, a movement claiming to restore the Ten Commandments grew into a massive, isolated compound that culminated in a mass killing of around 900 people, with leaders fleeing and no one being held accountable.
In Los Angeles, a wellness cult led by Katie Ann Griggs, using the name Guru Jagat, presented itself as modern and luxurious but operated with manipulative, spiritually controlled practices and psychological control.
All three cults used similar tactics—isolation, spiritual manipulation, and threats of punishment—to maintain control and suppress dissent.
The stories reveal how cults exploit deep human fears, offering false hope and false certainty, ultimately leading to tragic outcomes when their promises fail.
Summary:
The transcript blends three distinct narratives: one about seasonal change, one about a product launch at Taco Bell, and three detailed case studies of cults. The seasonal metaphor illustrates how people gradually embrace new states, like autumn, through subtle, personal experiences. This theme is contrasted with the commercial rebranding of a Taco Bell product, the Crispy Chicken Crunch Wrap Slider, now available with a spicy kick, reflecting consumer trends.
Then, the narrative shifts to examine three cults from different regions: in rural Sweden, a charismatic Christian group led by Helge Fosmo and Osa Valdau evolved into a closed, hierarchical community where spiritual manipulation, isolation, and physical violence were used to control members. The group’s leader, Fosmo, orchestrated the murder of his first wife and later instructed a follower to kill another, resulting in multiple deaths. In Uganda, a movement claiming to restore the Ten Commandments attracted thousands who surrendered all possessions, only to be systematically killed in a mass extermination after failed prophecies.
The leaders vanished, and no bodies were properly identified or buried. In Los Angeles, a wellness cult led by Katie Ann Griggs, styled as Guru Jagat, used spiritual branding, celebrity endorsements, and visually staged rituals to attract followers, while maintaining strict control through obedience, isolation, and psychological manipulation. Despite appearing modern and appealing, the group replicated core cult behaviors.
The cases collectively show how cults exploit vulnerability, fear, and a desire for belonging, using religious or spiritual narratives to manipulate, isolate, and ultimately destroy individuals. These stories underscore the dangers of unchecked authority, the power of belief, and the tragic consequences when false promises of salvation go unfulfilled.
FAQs
Fall begins gradually, starting with changes in the air and light, and then slowly, the things you love begin to find each other, like a jacket meeting a dress or a hoodie slipping beneath a blazer.
You don't simply step into fall; you create it layer by layer through small, intentional choices that align with the season, like adding clothing or adjusting your routine.
Taco Bell has reintroduced the Crispy Chicken Crunch Wrap Slider with a spicy kick, available in Diabolical Ranch flavor or as all-white meat nuggets, offering a new twist on a classic.
A cult requires a charismatic leader, a method of manipulation, and often a tragic outcome. These elements are consistent across different cults, regardless of location or ideology.
In Knutby, a religious community became isolated and abusive, with leaders claiming divine authority, using visions and prophecies to control members, and threatening physical violence for disobedience.
The cult in Uganda culminated in a mass murder and fire, with an estimated 924 people killed across multiple sites, including children, and the leaders escaped or disappeared.
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