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Come on out for that. And then you can go to PorchStore.com for all my future dates. The run after that is going to be California and Reno. So, PorchStore.com. Go find all the dates. Hells to the yeah. I'm looking forward to that. Really looking forward to being out in Dallas this weekend. And then we got, you know, oh, there's also more stuff. ComicDaveSmith.com. We got all the dates me and Rob will be out for the rest of the year. A lot of fun. A lot of fun dates on the calendar. So, okay. I wanted to talk about this, this, I was going to say meme, but I guess that is not the right term. Photograph, Rob. Sorry. Let's go old school on this. There was a photograph that went viral and has started this big kind of internet debate or, you know, the debate of the day, but it's around the topics of immigration and replacement, demographic changes, things of that nature. Are we going full Fuentes on this episode? We should. Well, maybe not quite, but, well, we'll see, we'll see where we get, you know, you never know where you're going to go when you start down a path. You have an idea. No one ever, no one ever starts down a path intending to go full Fuentes, you find yourself there. But, well, I did, maybe this is going Fuentes. I did a fight with Ben Shapiro on Twitter today. He actually went back and forth with me on this. And so maybe some of the, some of that's worth getting into. And actually he had a video on this, which we'll play cause it's, it's the perfect kind of example. Of, I dunno, I mean, I guess technically Ben Shapiro is not that old, but I was going to say boomer con slop, but he's still, he's old in spirit, I suppose. How many years did it take to get a response from Ben Shapiro? Well, it was something, you know, it was a, it was a weird little internet thing where I literally just went on Twitter and it was something I just saw in real time that he posted a thing and I just, I responded right to it. And it was like, we were both on Twitter at the same time. Like we found each other in the. Hall and it was on site and we started going, uh, put it in our little virtual dork way. Um, but it, I find this whole thing, I actually, before I had this interaction with Shapiro had already sent you, um, the, the clip about it. And I wanted to talk about this on today's show, cause I just found this to be very interesting on a lot of different levels. Now here is the photograph. Um, this was from, uh, uh, UT, uh, in, uh, in Austin, a football game. And, uh, a, a guy who's running for, like, I forget, I just said what the position was to Natalie, but it was something like, uh, um, some job that you didn't even know was a job. Uh, he's, he's running for, um, it's Beau French is his name. And he is, uh, the Republican nominee for Texas railroad commissioner. Okay. So he's just a, a, a guy running for a random to get them out. Yeah, that's, I guess so. It is a little bit worse when it's the railroad guy who's, uh, I don't know if you've listened to my campaign here. I'm just saying we got a lot of extra trains on these railroads. Just, uh, anyway, I didn't even know that that makes it so much worse. It is. It doesn't, well, it doesn't help the optics for sure, Rob, but we focus on the substance here. Um, but so, so he posts this, uh, picture now here's the picture, uh, that he posted. Um, now as you can see nothing. Out of the ordinary, just a regular old Texas football game, a hundred thousand dollars to the first person who could point out what is different about this picture. Okay. So anyway, this is the picture. Now this is a, uh, it's a section of the game, but if you do look into the picture, it is, um, well, at least that photograph is dominated by what appeared to be Indians, brown skin, very hard to find white people there. Now. One of the reasons Rob. Why? Why is it so fascinating and the debate that this sparked and why it is receiving kind of the predictable reactions from the Ben Shapiro types of the world is that this really is in one sense. So a lot of the boomer cons reaction to this Rob, as they go, well, guys, why would you post this picture? This just makes you look like a bigot, you know, because look, Rob, you're not posting pictures of illegal immigrants committing crime. You're not posting pictures. Of, um, you know, like, you know, even somebody like protesting or like causing a problem, you're posting pictures of what kind of you claim to want the immigrants are assimilating. I mean, this is the most, you look at this here. It's almost, um, could this would be an image that would be used as a counter against someone arguing that, that immigrants can't assimilate into our culture. I mean, look at this, this is the most American thing they are at a college football game. They're getting drunk. They're probably going to a frat party after this. They're very excited about the local thing. But at the same time, Rob, in some way, isn't that I think why the image is even that much more powerful because you're just kind of like, you're talking about a Texas college football game. And it is a little bit, I think of a jarring visual to a lot of people that represents something really being transformed about the country. I suppose like one of my broader points in this whole thing is just going to be that. I think it's crazy to claim that you're a bigot or some type of horrible racist to like notice this, think it is a profound change and you know, think this is something that ought be discussed and maybe even mentioned that like, this was kind of done against the will of the American people. Like there's just, this is a microcosm, there's a much bigger conversation there, but any thoughts? Any thoughts that you have about any of that, Rob, feel free to jump in. Uh, yes, I listen, I think it's totally okay for, uh, to have the conversation about forced demographic changes. And I think anyone that has those concerns, it's fair to have those concerns. I think if somebody saw this picture and thought, oh, this is exactly the thing I'm concerned about. I can understand why they had that reaction. Uh, if this picture had not made it into the news and I'd come across it, I would not have jumped on and gone, oh my God, is this how many, uh, how many Brown people are attending conferences? It's just not even true to me. It's like not even that noticeable of an image, uh, you got, firstly, they're doing the American thing. I don't know what would it call my more. If you said, look, what's happening at Texas a and M right now. And it was a room of, uh, kids playing, you know, uh, doing software engineering and they all were Indian. That would have caught my eye more of like, holy shit, things have changed, but in a way, in a way that is interesting because, well, I, I kind of think of it like this, you know, I've, I've said this, uh, before, but I think it's useful. It's like a framework that, cause this isn't how I thought about it, you know, throughout my life. But so the civil rights act happened in 1964 and I was born in 1983, so I was, I was born less than 20 years after the civil rights act was passed, which is a, you know, like, I don't know. That just seemed like kind of part of America to me, not like this new thing that had just happened. But the way I conceive of 20 years. Today is much different. Like, you know, I don't know if you were like, Hey, there was this policy that America made in 2007. I wouldn't feel like, oh, that's just always been part of America. I'd be like, oh, that's a very new thing in America, you know? And so I'm born in 1983. Jim Crow was 20 years ago, 20 years ago was, you know, like that is where is close as, as we are to like, I don't know, the Bush administration as the country was to James. Crow back then, but I'm going to, I'm in my mid forties and 45 years, you know? So it's now we're talking 65 years after the civil rights act and 20 years and 65 years are a big difference. You know, it, it just makes sense that we'd have a slightly different attitude about some of these things, you know, talking about any of these topics, anything racial my whole life. That's the type of topic that would just get a lot of people like, oh, this is very uncomfortable. You know, we've had like a kind of allergy to any type of nuanced conversation about race for many, many decades. A lot of this having to do with the, the, you know, the, the second world war and the civil rights act, and probably for some very good reasons. But I guess what, what I look at it like is like this, there's really what we're talking about today. There is a major difference between having a conversation about immigration and having a conversation about mass migration. migration. And it's almost as if people today are having the conversation about what's going on, but all they have is the tools of like the civil rights movement and a conversation about immigration. And now they're trying to apply that to a conversation about mass migration. And the things are just fundamentally different. There was an old episode of South Park, Rob, maybe you'll remember this one. I can't remember exactly what the joke was, but it was something where they were doing a play on the word minority. Like Carmen was talking about how the water park was all minorities. And then like Kyle makes the point at one point, then they're not a minority. And like Cartman's like, no, they're a minority. They're black. You know, it's like, even if they're 80%, they're like, oh, they're a minority. But anyway, just think about like, there is a different conversation between like, hey, we have minorities amongst us. How ought we treat those minorities? And coming to the conclusion that like, you shouldn't be dicks to them. They should have, even if they're not, they should have a different conversation. And so I think that's a really important thing to think about. And I think that's a really important thing to think about. You know what I'm saying? Does that make sense, Rob? It's like when I was debating Alan Dershowitz, and he hasn't uploaded any data in 30 years. It's like a software program that just hasn't updated. Like his talking points are exactly the same as they would have been in 1992. If he was trying to sell a war in Iran in 1992, Alan Dershowitz would have started talking about 1934 Germany, and how a war of aggression would have helped there, and how the mullahs are so crazy, and how if they get new, like, nothing's updated, even though we've had like 30 years of lots of information, like, yeah, you haven't learned anything. And it's very similar to that. The conversation is not over whether we should be a dick to the minority. The conversation is about the fact that like, you know, the United States of America has profoundly changed in a way that is kind of an irreversible. And nobody wanted the people didn't want that this was done to them by government policy. I don't know, there's kind of no other way to look at it as far as I'm concerned. 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Prolon has been shown to support biological age reduction, metabolic health improvements, skin appearance, fat loss with muscle protection, energy, and a healthier relationship with food. So if you're ready for your own reset for a limited time, Prolon is offering our listeners 15% off site-wide plus a $40 bonus gift when you subscribe to their five-day program. Just visit ProlonLife.com slash P-O-T-P. That's P-R-O-L-O-N-L-I-F-E.com slash P-O-T-P to claim your 15% discount and your bonus gift. ProlonLife.com slash P-O-T-P. I think that's a good framing. And you put it that way. I'm like, where's this train guy? I'm just kidding, internet. No, I, of course. But well, you know, it should, it's an interesting thing too that, you know, Daryl Cooper has made this point a lot. I think it's kind of helped me to understand this a bit, but he does make the point that, you know, America, the history of the United States of America was, you know, the history of the United States of America was always, um, there was always kind of like radical openness and radical demographic change. Like that is a part of the history of America in a way that it's just not the part of the history of almost any other country. I would go, I would say any other country. I don't think there's anything that quite compares to it. Like even, um, what, what is it? It's like the, like the naturalization act of 1798 or something like that, or 70, maybe it was, uh, maybe that's the one that restricted it. And then they reversed it a couple of years later, but it's one of those early naturalization acts where they basically say that, um, like any free white man of good character is welcome to come to America and become a citizen within a few years. And like, people might hear that today and think like, oh, that's restrictionist. Cause you hear like only free white men or whatever. But like, if you put that into perspective at the time, it was like radically open. Like that was great. You know what I mean? And we had this huge continent, we wanted to fill it. So that was a big experiment. And then of course we had, huge mass waves of immigration. What was it in, in the like 1870s and then in the, in the 1930s, I guess. And, um, and then of course there was huge, uh, migration of black Southerners to the North, which is like a huge thing in American modern, modern American history that people just don't really talk about Rob, like, or I just certainly didn't know much about that, but like, I think there was something like six or 7 million black people between, like 1910 and 1960, like moved from the set, like during Jim Crow, they were leaving to come up to the North and then they all had lots of kids. And so there's like this huge, you know, like, uh, um, a whole lot of black people up in the North, like are there, they're only first or second generation Northerners or whatever. Um, but Rob, the entire history of America, the country has been like 90% white and Christian. And that has, is now like, uh, radically changing and people kind of feel that I think throughout their lives, like, like, I'm, again, I'm not like trying to say like, it doesn't have to be some bigoted thing. Like, oh my God, I hate that there's minorities around or something. It's just the point that like, that really does change a country. And again, this is not something that was like, this wasn't decided democratically. It's not like there was a referendum and people decided to drastically change the country in this way. And also it's not as if this was something that was decided in like the market, like property owners, just, you know, like, so Americans were just inviting so many of their cousins from over here to come over here and do business. And so this is the way the demographics change. It's not anything like that. What it is, is that government controls the borders. Government sets the immigration policy. Government decides which of its laws it's going to enforce and not enforce. Government taxes, the people sends the money to all types of different NGOs, including the UN that then funds all types of caravans and mass mobilization. And like, this is, I don't know what to say. It's like the whole thing is kind of indefensible. And now in the, when it's a done deal, when it's a fait accompli, Rob, if any Americans complain about it, they're met with the accusation of bigotry. It's just, I don't know. It's like, I just find it to be so profoundly unfair. Like, it's like the, in many ways, like the most kind of like fucked up thing a leadership class could do to its own people is kind of like erase them or dilute them with foreigners, like totally change the country against their will. But then on top of that, if they dare complain about it to like morally condemn them, it just seems to be about as despicable a thing as a leadership class could do. Yeah. And, uh, I mean, clearly what happened under the Biden administration was a effort to get as many people over the border as they possibly could, um, and pardon them into the country. And, uh, I, I a hundred percent agree with you that Americans should have more of a say in, Hey, we don't want widespread, uh, illegal or even immigration for that matter. Uh, you know, I personally would like to have free markets, no social programs whatsoever, and I'd be in favor of more immigration, but that's not the system that we have. We live in, and I can fully respect that under the current system, people not wanting that should be allowed to, uh, to prevent it. And, uh, you know, I, I mean, at the end of the day, we got a lot of socialism here and you don't want a bunch of people coming into the country and voting against your interest and, uh, sizing down your piece of the pie and then also changing the culture on you to maybe a more leftist socialist culture. That's gonna, um, demonize you or see you as a bigot for, you know, uh, realizing, Oh, I got to join a team and represent and be a part of that team. And, oh my God, everyone hates me. If that's happens to be the white team. Yeah, that's right, dude. All such good points, dude. All such good points. And like, um, you know, as you said, cause even when you say it's like you're at exactly what, that's why I say it's not, we're not really having a conversation about immigration. We're having a conversation about mass demographic change. You know, it's like if, if we were like, whatever it is, like say there's 350 million people in America and let's just say whatever the numbers are, right? Like, let's just say for, for example, you got, you got a country with hundreds of millions of people. Let's say you got, um, a thriving, uh, tourism industry. And let's say there is a healthy immigration and, and, and maybe like a few hundred thousand people are legally immigrating into your country every year. And you, and you have a secure border. People aren't coming in illegally, you know, but you've got like a good immigrant. And then maybe we'd be having a conversation about like someone was demonizing immigrant groups or arguing that the immigrants are taking our job or they don't like how there's these different restaurants or different neighborhoods. Then we might be having a conversation about whether you're anti-immigration or not but like look i use the this extreme to paint a picture but listen man the picture itself is pretty extreme let's just uh but like the example that i like to use right well i think this scott horton came up with this one first but india is just the example because there's so many of them and this does happen to be the same you know i think those were indians in this picture um so you know you say hypothetically like four there's 300 and change million americans let's say 400 million indians wanted to come over here okay so like no 400 million and and let's just hypothetically even say like we i mean we do have the room right we got all types of states like kansas and stuff where there's you know it's very not very densely populated i mean let's say we're going to take them here and spread them out but then you also recognize that like look immediately what happens as a result of this is that americans become a minority in america america is now majority indian now first of all if you're giving them voting rights and stuff like that then obviously this has a huge impact on our democratic processes the entire government essentially now is owned by by indians okay so that changes everything about the way we're governed but even if that wasn't the case even if they didn't vote and it didn't change the laws rob like that just profoundly changes the country you can't tell me that another 400 million like indians here this changes the country in profound ways culturally religiously all these things and again like to say that americans can't have any feeling about that or if you oppose that it's because you're racist it's because you don't like indians that i don't i just think that's complete bullshit and just to kind of prove the point imagine if in that picture all those people were wearing a uh kufa or whatever the the muslims wear and imagine if all of the mass migration to this country happened to be uh muslims who absolutely despise the state of israel and they all got voting rights and uh got people into congress who absolutely spoke out against the state of israel what do you think ben shapiro would have to say about that well you for this is uh this is what i said to him yes oh really that's yeah this is literally what i said to him no no it's fine but it's just it's hilarious because of course why would it's like look and and but i'll tell you his response later if you want which really is something um and we can we can get into that but yeah i mean but look i'm even look it's clearly you could see the point much clearer if you use some of these examples but okay all right so it's not that it's not 400 million you know indians coming here it's not that drastic but if the principle still stands that like no americans would have a right to like object by that and in fact stop it by any means necessary then like okay again look what is uh natalie can you just google this real quick uh for me i'm not sure if you can see it but i'm not sure if you can see it but i'm not sure if what what percentage of the tech of texans are white what what percentage of texas is white i want to get that number real quick um because i i was told this earlier i was somewhat shocked by the number um i looked it up and i got the same number so i just want to see what natalie's got yeah 39 rob like texas is 39 percent white now i'm sorry just as a country that has historically been a 90 european white christian country that is like these are shocking demographic changes in um an incredibly short period of time and you know for anybody who wants to say rob that like some type of thing which is was the ben shapiro line and i guess still is is that it's um um right well 73 if you count hispanic but like you know okay but that's a little bit different um i'm just saying it's a major cultural change in in america just to clarify the natalie point i think that there are um people who self-identify as white who are white but are technically hispanic and i guess they're not counted as white well it's um no it's um hispanic is the i think it's the way they measure it is that there's a big portion of hispanics who are counted as white and so they're two different questions it's like it's like uh not what do they count call it again they call it like um shit i think it's non-white hispanic or white hispanic but like i i don't know but i'm just saying like either however you want to measure these things these are major demographic changes that have that have uh taken place and people will say well you know okay like this is the ben shapiro thing right that essentially you're racist to care about the browning of america all we care about is what culture comes along with that browning now if it's if it's brown and they're still at the football game cheering for that and they're for capitalism and they support israel then we got no problem with them coming in but if they're they're right or they don't support israel whatever you know so like that's the but i i gotta say like i there's a couple things on this okay number one i did like there was one time i saw uh ben burgess was debating um uh curtis yarvin and they i think someone asked curtis yarvin and i think someone asked curtis yarvin and i think someone asked curtis yarvin well is haiti poor because of the like the genetics of the people or is haiti poor because of the culture you know and and curtis uh when he goes as soon as someone runs runs that experiment that that controls for culture versus genetics i'd love to take a look at it you know like essentially you just go i don't know like we don't know we don't have to pretend to know for sure it's it's a much more let's just say we would all like to go it's not race at all it's culture and the reason why we'd like to say that is because that's a much more comfortable answer that we'd all rather be the case i don't know um the point i think is that when you radically change the demographics like this you're going to radically change society it's a gamble we're rolling the dice and going hey you think we could still be the united states of america like this i don't know we'll see why would we take that gamble why would we why would we do that and especially given a little bit of awareness about like what the state of nature is and when i say the state of nature i don't mean like the state of nature literally i mean what the normal state of man is what the normal you know society is what are the we roll the dice we come out with the united states of america again probably not probably not what we get and also on top of that i just think to some degree like it's just different man and people have the right to have some say in whether things get radically changed or not just for their own reason you know it's it's very hard like i don't know if if there are some non-japanese people in japan you know there's a minority population in japan of something that's not japanese it's totally reasonable for us to be like hey guys don't be dicks to them don't deprive them of their rights you know treat them like you well people you know um but to ask the japanese people to make their country majority italian well there's no such thing as japan anymore if they do that now this is obvious with any group of people who are a people like that america is a little bit different but still you're drastically changing the the whole nation why should you just get to do that against the will of the people it's i just find it so indefensible all right guys let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show which is crowd health a company i love who i've been telling you about for many years fall is here and it's time to end the year strong especially when it comes to your health care what if you could get health care for under a hundred dollars a month you've heard me rave about crowd health and they've 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Spread it out. guys if you want to really just spread out a little bit but i don't know man there do i think it does uh i think it fundamentally changes a society in a lot of ways you know i think there are um there there are advantages and i think one of the advantages is you you get a much more high trust society um when when you it's it's not as multi-racial and multi-ethnic you know and it's i don't know it's just we've never really been a multi-racial society we've been a bi-racial society for all of our history and we just rolled the dice on on doing this and now we're going to be living through the fallout of it which by the way is like maybe that's more of what our focus should be is just like hey okay well what do we do from from here but one of the first parts of it is recognizing that as people start to recognize what's happened because i think people are just starting to kind of take in the severity of this um they're going to be some people who are upset about it and just simply lecturing them like they're nazis is not i think helpful and i think there's an additional problem which is uh on a more personal or localized level and i i don't fall into this category but if this is not what you're into if you run a business you can't just hire all whites you need an hr department you need to play by the rules of other people and you will get shamed on a more localized level for not being more inclusive so it's not even like you can uh congregate with like-minded individuals and have uh what i call freedom of assimilation and go well association yeah freedom of association that's the that's the word i was looking for and just go well yeah i get that the rest of the country decided to go this way and a bunch of liberals are more into this but that's not what i'm into you're not allowed to make that decision for yourself you don't have the freedom to do so so it's not it's not even like uh just a national thing it will go start a business tomorrow grow it to a point where it's successful and then try and tell my minorities that they're not allowed to work there yeah well that's right it's like we don't even have freedom of association people are kind of like forced into the country against the will of the taxpayer against the will of the people and then they're they don't have freedom of association to even disassociate with those people or you could you also you know use the example of like landlords renting to people or all types of different examples like that rob um and you know it's um again this is this is not the dynamic of um of like hey like you know as you just go like it it's okay it's a group of white people and there's a minority there and how should we treat that person we're talking about something totally different than that and for essentially now you know you know my entire lifetime let's just say those 65 years since the civil rights act right like even the 20 years before i was born um the liberals and the left have been constantly harping on how difficult it is to be a minority you know how difficult it is to be a minority and then somehow the expectation because so much of what has animated them particularly for the last 20 years has just been anti-white you know uh sentiment it's like there is a hatred for white people okay you're you're being demonized constantly in academia and media and hollywood and you know in the political class by the entire left really so white people are being demonized um they're also being told how bad it is to be a minority they also can't kind of help but notice that the only places where all of these massive demographic changes are taking place are where rob call the white countries we're just we're not talking about having this problem in china or russia or or japan or anything partly because those countries won't allow it to happen but also partly because really this expectation from white people who get so lectured to by the left there's really not this expectation for any other group of people which is that number one we're going to tell you how terrible it is to be a minority and number two we also expect you to voluntarily make yourself a minority in the countries where you're a majority a majority now by the way a leftist will have nothing but sympathy for a black person in bed stye who talks about gender gentrification they will have nothing but sympathy for anyone else if they were ever displaced in this way against their will they would have nothing but but the expectation amongst white people who of course are you knew uniquely evil and also we're going to need you to ignore that everyone wants to live in the countries that were built by white people they are expected to just like embrace becoming a minority themselves i'm i'm sorry but like that is um that is an insane request you know i don't know i understand this is an uncomfortable conversation to have but if we're just being honest about it man like that is just that is craziness it is not the same thing to like think oh we could like oppress a minority of people amongst us you know screw those people they don't have rights or even like maybe just like be a dick to those people or discriminate against those people or try to keep those people in one part of town it's a whole different thing to really be a minority of people and i'm not saying that's not the right thing to do but i'm think you could exploit a minority, you know, enslave them or genocide them or do something terrible to a minority. That is a totally different thing than being the majority of a country and wishing to remain that majority, like not wanting mass demographic change. It's just not the same thing at all. It is total consensus in Japan that the place remain Japanese, like total 100% consensus. Nobody thinks that modern Japan is on the level of Nazi Germany, morally speaking for that belief. It's somehow that is the expectation of Americans. And Rob, as you kind of got into before, even worse. This is the expectation of Zionists who do not hold the same standard for Israel. Now that to me is a whole different level of hypocrisy. And that's why I went at Ben Shapiro this morning on Twitter. this rob like one thing which by the way you know i've always been more of a two-state than one state solution guy although look it's not my choice i don't know solve it however you want to um one of the things rob that the zionists have been very well aware of in the israelis from the very beginning is what that demographics are destiny why do you think the israelis are so into ethnic cleansing well because dude if you want to have a democratic state that's a jewish state you got to have like an 80 20 super duper jewish super majority you know i mean like it's otherwise it doesn't really work can't really have elections when it's close and so you know you have to maintain those demographics otherwise the whole thing is different it won't be a jewish state if it's not majority jewish people there so for any of them to come around and say oh we don't know what's the problem what's your beef with mass demographic change it really does say something yeah i mean it's it's the ultimate in hypocrisy it's almost incredible that it's coming from a ben shapiro is on the right and uh just to reiterate what you were saying the fact that the left not just not only do you not have the freedom of association but they will even shame you uh if you are flirting with hey do i like this well you're not being inclusive you're not being nice it's like you guys have initiated the change that changes my life and now you're not allowed to criticize whether or not i even like it or have a thought about whether it's a bad idea and then the people on the right who are pro israel who uh clearly i guess even though they don't live in that country and live for it which is a little bit psychotic but they understand that it's really important to them that they keep their voting base and that they keep one culture within the society um and at the same time over here that they would advocate for anything different and why would anyone be concerned about this why would anyone care yeah that's i mean it's the ultimate in hypocrisy yep well here let's uh let's go to to ben shapiro's segment here and let's let's take on some of what he's what he had to say about this are conservatives supposed to be upset that people from different ethnic backgrounds enjoy college football a viral photo of like i don't know 30 brown students from the sands of this weekend's ut ohio game went viral when a random low level already he just already see just like how much he is just dripping in dishonesty just dripping in dishonesty and and again i just find this look i don't i was kind of like trying to explain this to natalie uh how i feel about this before i started it's like look man i understand believe me because i also come from like i'm a jewish kid from park slope i also come from the same liberal culture that all leftist and liberals you know kind of do today i understand why when i start talking the way i'm i'm talking i know that there's a percentage of like left-leaning viewers who will kind of shut down to this and i'm like i'm not going to do that i'm not going to do that i'm not going to do that and be like oh this is just like dave's got a little bit of like racism and i'm i like him on gaza i like him on this stuff but he's just kind of like i understand i know because it's very hot people have developed an allergy for this i don't even begrudge liberals who have a little bit of an allergy to me even suggesting that there's a problem with just like more brown faces in this game or something like that but for like an israeli racist right winger to do it rob like for you to be shame are american racist right wingers you know for i use this tongue and cheek these terms but like no you don't get to do that dude and so like i just as an american i'm kind of like i'll stick up for our racist right wingers over you but again i'm just joking i don't really consider it to be that racist but like the issue here nobody's issue is that we have a problem that minorities like football like what even are you talking about minorities like football minorities play football the game is a minority game what are you talking about dude we don't have a problem that like oh an indian guy and and by the way right rob if you showed a picture that was a sea of white people at a texas college football game which is what we've come to think college football might look like but that was i used to think that minnesota wasn't somalia but that you know that's crazy um but if that if you showed a sea of white people and there was one indian person in there and people had a problem with him then ben shapiro yes you could accurately say the issue people have here is a minority enjoying a football game but rob that's clearly not what we're talking about here right am i i mean is this come on we're talking about people looking at this picture and then jumping off to oh my god there are demographic changes in the country no one's actually going we're not allowed to have minorities should not be allowed to attend or enjoy football that's not that's not of anyone's concern you're you're looking at the writing on the wall and you're going oh man this really is the cut listen white people are going to be a minority in this country this is going to be different this is going to make culture and movies and sports and everything feel different and we don't what why are we to assume the only reason anyone would assume this is for the better is if you're already working on some type of kind of like anti-white racist starting ground like yeah that's what you get you're the big oppressor so you deserve to kind of be replaced but like that's not everybody's opinion i'm like well yes white people are guilty of a lot of oppression uh they're also you know have created a lot of prosperity and you know in many different ways so i anyway whatever it's just like it's you know there's a orin mcintyre always shares there's some quote i forget whose it is i apologize to the person but it's something it's like the simplest quote but it really is where he said something like he goes so much of arguing with the left is them pretending to not understand concepts thus making argumentation impossible you know and like i don't know this totally just applies to ben shapiro too like it's like it's a you're making the argument impossible because you're pretending that the argument is something else and leftists do this all the time you know like um when you get into it and they just go oh so i guess you just don't want minorities to live got it you know okay we have to pretend that's what the argument is about all right let's keep playing viral when a random low-level local gop candidate said kind of gross things about their skin color after review why football is great i'm gonna run through some stats about ut's demographics texas senate candidate ken paxton's reaction and why james tellerico is actually the most racist candidate of them all there's a person named beau french he's running for railroad commissioner in texas and he snapped a picture of ut students who were celebrating their miraculous win over ohio so for those who missed the game basically texas was down 20 points in the last quarter and archie manning came back 21 points in the fourth quarter incredible comeback and the cameras flashed to the crowd and one part of the texas at austin crowd was pretty clearly heavily indian it's a lot of people who have heritage that is not white right that is what is is happening in this photo it looks like some people of hispanic origin some people of indian origin maybe some people of arabic origin just ethnically speaking so beau french tweeted out a picture of this that i heard at ut graduation this year looked like this i didn't believe it the problem is now obviously far worse than anyone imagined now a few things about this one these are not people who are there flying the mexican flag or the palestinian flag or protesting for gaza the only evidence we have about the belief system of these people is that they are putting up the the the texas hook them horns for a football team in texas so like again right um well two things number one but again as i said before that's kind of the point ben shapiro right like look man obviously if if four hundred million people are going to be here tomorrow and drastically change the united states of america right but let's just say they do kind of assimilate to america and they don't vote for more welfare and they're not god forbid protesting on behalf of the poor palestinians and they're not burning american flags they're not waving their foreign flags but it's just different i'm also allowed to be against that like i'm also just allowed to be against things drastically changing like i i don't know you you don't it's just so like i look man rob first of all by the way i guess maybe what should also be pointed out is like he actually it's not so subtle really once you look for this is why the zionists are so doomed rob once you see it it's the toothpaste is out of the tube he subtly throws in one of the things like or imagine you know imagine they came here they were committing crime and they hated your country imagine they had a problem with it and they were like oh my god i don't know what to do with it and they're like oh my god i don't know what to do with it and they're like oh my god i don't know what to do with the genocide you guys are funding like what first of all you know how unpopular israel is you know how unpopular our funding of israel is most americans would not think that actually is the worst thing you could do if you came here oh they came here and started protesting against the taxpayers being fleeced to pay for israel's genocide i wouldn't actually have such a big problem with that one interesting how you snuck that in is just not even just like they committed a violent crime or they were a bad neighbor or something but they didn't support israel rob when they came here but like i don't know dude yes that's right it's not a picture of any of that it's just you know texas college football that's kind of the whole point ben all right guys let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show which is prize picks football is finally back and prize picks is bringing out their best offer yet new users who sign up will get 150 lineups if you win your first five dollar lineup that's right if you win your first five dollar lineup you get 150 in lineups and now prize picks is available nationwide so what are you waiting for lock in for kickoff because everyone and everything is on prize picks prize picks is very easy to play you don't need to be an expert in the sport in fact you can know next to nothing about the sport or you can know everything about it and still enjoy it you just pick two to six players and then you pick more or less on their projected stats 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and look at the ethnicities of the people who are celebrating the university of texas winning a football game and you're just like dude are you just having your own separate conversation over there man that has nothing to do with any of the rest of us you know like imagine if you were to go to texas and you're like imagine your response to my my hypothetical rob hey should we allow 400 million indians to come here and your response was look man i know some indians who are good people i know some indians who are bad people i know some white people are good people i know some white what yeah no one's arguing that that would be the question of should we treat the one percent of the population who are different in a bad way well no okay we shouldn't mistreat them that's a different question to whether you want to flood and drastically change the the racial demographics of a country um and so i don't care whether you like it yeah i know lots of indians who i like too okay does that have to do with anything you know it sucks to be can you pull up that picture for one second are we able to zoom in at all all right you see that guy in the cowboy hat it just sucks to be that guy in the news right now he's like i put on a dirty shirt i look like i work at a cattle ranch i did everything i could to blend in oh dude and now i'm in the newspapers there's too many brown people here like how did i get into this position oh i do well look dude it also by the way i mean i know you're you're being funny but it also is true that like you can feel for the individuals involved to be like dude it's not it's not anything personal about any one person like this is a broad policy you know this is that is the question here you know things get invoked like remember there was a boat of jewish refugees from the holocaust who got turned back to nazi germany and then they got slaughtered it's like dude we're not talking about taking a boat full of people into a country of hundreds of millions you're talking about taking in millions and millions of people like this is it's just a different conversation uh anyway let's go back to the let's go back to shapiro first thought isn't oh my gosh that is a lot of people with the wrong ethnicities because i don't think that's a good way to think all right let's pause i think it's quite a bad way by the way nobody is saying those are a bunch of people with the wrong ethnicities it's not that any ethnicity or race is right or wrong it's just like i don't know like if you just took a look at tokyo and saw it was like 80 black it's not that black is the wrong race to be it's just like wow that's different did the people of tokyo have any say in this oh what are you telling oh they hate it oh it's their number one issue is that they're against this okay well i do kind of understand why they'd be against that it's not really tokyo anymore now is it it's a whole different thing like whatever you want to say man like if you made tokyo 80 percent black it's just it's not the same tokyo anymore that doesn't mean it's worse or better that doesn't mean you hate black people or hate japanese people and so again this just isn't it's not that they're wrong but it is a little bit jarring are we again if ben shapiro saw jerusalem look anything other than jewish he would notice that rob would he not would he not know it's not again being the wrong ethnicity or the right ethnicity well in his case he probably would feel that way but it's like yeah i don't know that would be that sure would be different or it's just so it's so like i guess part of this here rob too is right because it is i do i look at me i know people say oh this is like your israelic obsession or something that's why you're focused on this but no i'm sorry this is stunning hypocrisy and it's also like look dude you're unlike iran's nuclear program or the shiite crescent that once ran through syria or hezbollah's control over southern lebanon unlike issues that ben shapiro really cares about immigration which is what we call this even though we really mean mass demographic change is actually a lot of people's number one issue rob this was like one of the this was either number one or number two really the economy is usually one but like i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't like it was number one in some polls this was the animating issue of the trump presidential campaigns this is a major major issue especially amongst the conservative right half of america and so like you've got ben shapiro here this this guy who his big issue is his identity as a as which is two percent of the country his loyalty to this foreign government his support for this most unpopular of wars and yet he's going to turn around and lecture um all of these these americans who might be concerned about like drastic change happening in their own country god forbid i just i don't know i find this to be appalling yes i mean it's completely hypocritical and also i don't know he's just kind of subverting the entire issue which is uh you would think if you were looking at a picture of texas a&m you were seeing mostly white kids and here you clearly managed to snap a photo of uh not that it's almost like you know i don't know if you got a picture at a country club and everyone's uh a minority or something you'd be like whoa that i wasn't expecting to see that and then it does jar to you oh i guess is there that much was there that much illegal immigration or has the government created that many policies that are favorable to minorities that they're actually displacing white people and he's completely sidestepping any of those questions or feelings which would be legitimate to try and localize it to hey i can't believe anyone's reacting to this picture why do you hate minorities and why do you think they shouldn't be at a football game it's like he's just he's not he's having a different conversation than you are intentionally yes yeah um yeah let's let's play a little bit more each thing now if you were to tell me that university of texas just without reference to this picture imported thousands of students from saudi arabia i'd be like i'm not sure why we are doing that or by the way thousands of students from communist china we're going to return to communist china i think that that's a great idea but the problem is far worse than anyone imagined based on a picture of people celebrating the university of texas i mean these are probably second generation kids or kids of immigrants that's probably who these people are and the demographic breakdown of university of texas is pretty diverse ut admits 89 to 91 percent of all in-state undergraduates only seven percent of the ut student population is from out of state according to college factual four percent is international asian students make up about 22 to 26 percent of the ut campus ut does not disaggregate the asian category into south asian which means like pakistani or indian versus east asian which would be like chinese or japanese and realistically speaking there are some 200 to 300 foreign exchange students who come from the middle east university of texas every year out of some 40 or 50 000 people for a university of texas at austin the population of university of texas at austin is like 30 white i think 28 hispanic somewhere in that neighborhood so both friends got a lot of flack for this he said i feared the win for the team it was a great game i weep for the families in texas who can't get into ut because they prioritize foreigners or texans shame on you for ignoring that fact now again that's not true 90 of in-state undergrads are admitted to university of texas now again this is a bit of selection bias here because here is a picture of the university of texas and i'm not going to go into too much detail about it but it's a picture of part of the texas student section as you can see that is a lot of kids from various countries many many many of those all right so let's just pause it here this is again rob talk about just running away from the issue when it's obvious look even by the numbers he read where he was like 30 percent of them were uh southeast asian or no i'm sorry not southeast asian but 30 percent of them were asian or west asian you're like okay yeah that's kind of jarring um yeah sorry i'm trying to pull up a quick stat here because i believe he's uh completely wrong on the 90 percent um but also it's worth knowing that uh the white demographic of texas a&m i think has fallen by about 20 to 25 percent over the last 10 years and that's because uh texas a&m has to admit 90 percent from from within the state of texas that doesn't mean that um they're accepting 90 i think this is this is texas sorry this is texas university texas university has fallen i believe i'll have to fact check myself but we can just go with about 20 percent uh and that also his 90 number i believe is inaccurate i think it's that uh the university has to take 90 of people from the state of texas that doesn't mean that 90 of the people from the state of texas that apply are automatically admitted right and and also like listen i'm sorry but when you have a guy running for local dog catcher who posts this and it goes super viral and hundreds of millions of people have commented on it it's like yeah dude it's not about whether he got the technicality right or whether the picture actually shows because yes the numbers back up the trend the overall numbers clearly tell a picture and i'm sorry man but i don't think i'm wrong to say this rob and i say this as you know rob as the nation's leading uh fighter of anti-semitism it's not a a role that i was um that i wanted to to fill but um i'm i'm the only one who actually fights it i'm not not the only one but anyway uh most of the people who claim to be fighting it seem to just be making a lot more of it but rob i just want you to think about this for a second and i want you to tell me if i'm being unfair here okay if you were gonna sit here and essentially what what ben shapiro is saying here in different words is that america is a propositional nation what he's saying rob is that look when it comes to these things right we should um he's going well look i'm not ben shapiro is not making some type of open borders uh cultural relativism like egalitarian type argument here he's very clear to say hey look man if this was like i don't know a bunch of people coming from communist china or if this was a bunch of people coming from saudi arabia or something like that i wouldn't have a problem with that but the thing is right we're not judging like your country isn't a people your country is a set of values it's a propositional nation and so if it's indians coming over who like love mets baseball and free market capitalism then they're americans man then they should be here every bit as much as you because america isn't a people who has a right to maintain itself as a people america is an idea america is is you know just kind of um america is concepts and so as long as people come in and they get in line with the concepts then then you are a bigot if you just have a problem with their skin color tone or you just have a problem that they're not your people then then you're a nativist you're a bigot of some sort okay if you're going to have that view rob dude you better not have an ethno state that you're loyal to is this unreasonable for me to say you better not have than your own people over here where it's not a propositional nation Now, is it, Rob? And in fact, a Jew, correct me if I'm wrong here, right? You or a Jewish 17 year old in Brooklyn or a Jew in Los Angeles have a right to go to Israel and become a citizen there. If you're of the people, you're one of the, I mean, maybe not anymore, Rob, you've been hanging out with me for too long, but like at one point, like if you're, this is, this whole country is a country of the people. We're a Jewish state. Like this is in great, if you're a Jew anywhere, you have a right to come here. This state is about the people and the people cannot change. Those demographics, it's not a propositional nation. This is a blood and soil nation about this land and these people. Dude, you can't hold that and lecture Americans about how they're a propositional nation. Am I crazy or is that just obviously got to be true? I think that that is obviously true. And, you know, in theory, I'm more in line with Ben Shapiro that I think anyone that wants to move to this country because they want, they believe in freedom and they just want to work hard and live a better life. That is the American spirit and they should be allowed to do so. But sadly, they've introduced so much of the socialism to the system that I don't think that that's the motivation of most people that are coming here. And I also don't think that that's, I don't think it's fair to impose it on, you know, the people that actually kind of built up and have lived in this country for longer periods of time. I just don't think that that's, I prefer it. I think it's the better ideal. It's kind of more the America I grew up in, but I think they introduced too much socialism to the system that it's just not really, it's not really fair to people who feel otherwise. And it's not really in line with reality. All right. Well, let's listen. I get what you're saying. Um, so anyway, to, uh, to, we can end with the, the reveal here on this, but so yes, I did respond to Ben Shapiro and actually got him. He worked up the courage to respond back to me, um, today on, on social media. So I said, uh, Rob, I had the same instinct as you is a lot of people probably did too. So he said, um, to, to, uh, Sean Davis, who had a very good response to this, by the way, I might even read Sean Davis's response here. Um, but Ben Shapiro said, why don't he said, uh, Sean had written, um, yes, you are very smart and you definitely figured out the key issue here rather than carpet bombing a helpless straw man, referring to that video that we just played, which Ben Shapiro said, why don't you explicate in clear terms, what people are upset about based on a photo of a very small segment of the UT fan base during the game to which I replied, Rob, I said, imagine it was some Palestinians who were given the right to return to Israel. How would you feel? See, you got it immediately. I thought that was. Fun. Just to like, again, it's, it's not that hard. Like, but this is the thing where people go, like you, you try to say this all the time, you know, like after nine 11 or after there's a terrorist attack where people go, oh my God, dude, we got to go. They messed with us. We're going to go blow some shit up. And I go, Hey, you know, that feeling. That's how they feel. Like you're happy. You do know the feeling, Ben, you just got to imagine it was happening to Israelis. Imagine Israeli society was being demographically replaced. That's how a lot. Believe it or not. Look, how crazy is it to say this, Rob? Is this an unreasonable message to say to like our Zionist Jewish friends, Rob, how would you feel? How, uh, how would let's just to be personal about it, Rob, how would many family members of ours feel? How would many Jews feel if Israel was being demographically replaced and Jews were going to become a minority in Israel? How would they feel about that? Okay. Just think about that for a second. And, and wrap your head around this idea. A lot of Americans feel the same way about that happening here, man. Like they value their nation at the same way you do. Anyway, so Ben Shapiro, uh, responds to me in this point. He said, this is his point, Rob. This is what he responds. He said, because we know generally the belief system of some groups of people, but not others, please explain who the people in that photo are and what they believe. If you can't, you're full of it, which you are. So I wanted to be clear here. Ben Shapiro's response to me was that we can know generally what some groups think, but not all. So unless I specifically know every person in this picture, I can't have a problem with it. Now, of course, Rob, he is clearly saying here, if it was Palestinians in Israel, he's not claiming to need to know the individuals or how they feel. 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So obviously, his point is, is once again, just skirting the bigger question and bigger issues. Yes. So I responded back to Ben, I said, No, Ben, you don't know that Palestinians are bad by looking at them. That's your feelings getting in the way of facts. That's great. I said, the point is that Americans don't like the broader policy that replaces the domestic population against their will. This picture is obviously just a little microcosm of the gigantic shift happening in America. After years of demonizing every right wing immigration hawk, you now come out to lecture Americans about being racist for not supporting this, all while reserving the right to be a racist and restrictionist against demographics that might threaten the country of a foreign nation. I said, get it. And then I said, let's have a conversation. Don't be scared, homie. So you know, got one more challenge out to it. Anyway, I'll read the last thing that Ben Shapiro said, and we can close the show here. So Ben Shapiro says ridiculous on its face. One, we have excellent data on what Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank believe about the existence of a Jewish state of Israel. You know this and are being deliberately ignorant. Meanwhile, you have literally no idea how many people are in the UT photo, whether they whether they're even on a visa or third generation immigrants, let alone what they think. Third generation Americans, I think he meant to say not third generation immigrants. Two, I've been an immigration hawk with regard to illegal immigration for decades. And I have always opposed importation of people who oppose assimilation to the West. Always stop lying. Now, I just want to real quickly take on both of these. I said what I did. I did. I responded on Twitter. I said, wait, you have data to suggest that Palestinians don't very much like the state that has militarily occupied them for 60 years. I said, well, that's proof they're Amalek. And then I said, you're also right. Racism is bad. So listen, to be clear, Ben is saying we have excellent data on how the Palestinians feel about a Jewish state. Just get into the problems of what? Yes. OK, so you have public opinion polls that the Palestinians don't like the state that has militarily occupied and slaughtered and genocided them. Shocker. OK. Anyway, he's saying I don't have any data about who these people are. The entire point that I'm making to Ben Shapiro, and this is something you got to say to a lot of these guys, particularly like neocon Zionist types, dude. If the American people. Don't wish to have this massive demographic change, they have a right to not wish that it doesn't matter whether they know the people and know or I have data on how. But by the way, of course, I could find data on what Indians in general think, and I could find issues of things they think that would be incompatible with something that Americans might desire. But none of that really matters. The point is, just as you always say, doesn't Israel have a right to exist as a Jewish state? It doesn't matter if any of the people came coming into Israel had lots of great values. You still wouldn't want them coming in. Don't tell me for a second that Ben Shapiro would support Indians or Swedes or Brits coming in and done demographically replacing Jewish people in Israel. Right, Rob? So, no, I don't need any of that. And then number two, what can I even say? Just on that first one. Also, imagine if you took everyone in Gaza, you line them up at the border and you said, hey, we're about to we're going to make you an Israeli citizen. You just have to agree that you believe that the state has a right to exist and then you can live in here and you can work. How many of those people do you think are saying, yeah, I'm good with that? And then does Ben Shapiro still hold the same position there? Well, we have previous polling that says that you hated us. So we know what your opinion is. He can't come in. I mean, it's just obviously not true. Yes. And then I will just say to the second one here, I just thought this was so funny, too. I have been an immigration hawk with regard to illegal immigration for decades. It's a nice little change of the topic there. We're talking about creating policies. Oh, you don't. People breaking the law. Oh, wow. Well, thanks, Ben Shapiro. Yeah. But so much of the demographic change has been done through legal immigration. Right. So what does that mean? I said my other response I put on Twitter was that that which I don't know if the young people get it. But I said Ben Shapiro believes that demographic replacement should be safe, legal and rare. That's great. But for example, I used to say about abortion in the 90s because it should be legal, but it should it should only happen legally. It's also it's a tough line because, you know, Biden pardon people into the country. So is that still illegal? I mean, I guess that was a legal mechanism to let them into the country because because that administration wanted to let people into the country. And then what if a Democratic administration decides, hey, you know what, we want 10,000 sort of South Koreans coming into the country. And so they are in the entire American public's against it. But the issue, the visas. So that's legal. But again, my and then again, by the way, what I had said is that Ben Shapiro smeared all the greatest hero right wingers who were immigration hawks. And it's true. He did because they also weren't war hawks and didn't support Israel. I'm talking Pat Buchanan and Russell Kirk and Ron Paul and all the great ones. Right. But then on top of that, he goes and I've always opposed the importation of people who oppose assimilation to the West again, Rob. But like, why can't the standard just be whether the Americans want them or not, whether they want them or not? They want them here. Again, if I said I'm flooding Israel with people who will assimilate to Israeli values, that wouldn't be good enough for Ben Shapiro because they'd have to be Jewish. Well, like people here are saying, like, no, they have to be American. And again, you're a hypocrite. We don't need two standards. One will do just fine here. This is why he's saying he could look at a picture of Muslims in Israel and already know they're bad. But I can't look at a picture of Indians in Israel. I can't look at a picture of Indians in Israel. I can't look at a picture of Indians in Texas and feel the same way. Again, I shouldn't say they're bad, but just that like, yo, it should be the choice of the people who live here, whether they want to come. And unlike the Palestinians, this land doesn't actually belong to Indians. Well, the other kind, not this kind. All right, Rob, we got to wrap up on that. Catch you guys tomorrow. Peace. 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