The episode blends personal storytelling with product promotion and parenting reflections. The host highlights Quince as a trusted source for high-quality, affordable, ethically made clothing, sharing personal experiences with their products and praising the brand’s direct-to-consumer model. A lighthearted yet insightful conversation about a tilapia incident explores boundaries, emotional needs, and communication in relationships. The hosts also reflect on their upcoming birth, emphasizing a joyful, low-pressure approach to labor and parenting, contrasting with medicalized expectations. Abby launches her own makeup brand, Bizwell Beauty, which sold out due to a strong vision and rigorous development process, underscoring the challenges and rewards of launching a new venture. The episode then transitions into practical parenting planning, covering logistics like car upgrades, home organization, sibling transitions, and new routines. Themes of self-care, emotional connection, and community are woven throughout, with guest mentions of mental health support and parenting resources. The narrative balances humor, vulnerability, and preparedness, offering a relatable, heartfelt look at life before, during, and after a new baby arrives. Sponsored brands like Unreal Snacks, BetterHealth, and Place are seamlessly integrated to support wellness, mental health, and home life. The overall tone is warm, authentic, and grounded in real-life experiences.
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I wear them all the time when we go on the pool with the boys. I'm excited to see which he picks out from Quince for me next. Your nice khaki shorts are from Quince. With the khaki that I wear like literally every day. Yep. Those are from Quince. You don't even know where your clothes are from but if you had to guess they're probably from Quince because I love shopping their min section as well for Matt. You can wear them in many different ways for many different seasons. Find your next fall favorites at Quince. Download the Quince app for app exclusive offers or go to Quince.com. Get free shipping on your order and 365 day returns now available in Canada and the UK too. And when Quince asks you where you heard about them, let them know that unplanned sent you. It's the best way to support the show. I just came to the realization that I have my first pants down appointment tomorrow. I'm offended you didn't ask me. How do you feel about our boys starting school? I was listening to the Finding Nemo story with them today. They're like first day of school and then he comes back and he says I love you dad. I thought about them having their little backpacks. You're so sweet. You're so sweet. My goal for this birth is just to have fun. I want to have fun. Is that too much to ask? I love that for you. I literally can't believe I'm just sitting here in P.B. fans right now. Is that okay? What's up dudes? Welcome back to unplanned. You guys, we just had a very controversial event play out right here in this room. I asked Abby if she made tilapia for me in the air fryer and she was like no I did it, but you can have it. And I was like, oh, that's not what happened. Okay wait, I was wrong. Take it away. What happened? You come in here. That's not what happened. You come in here and you said, hey, are you going to eat that tilapia? That's in the air fryer. And I said, yeah, but if you want it, you can have it. That's right. That's right. You did first say, yes, I'm eating this. Well, I said, yeah, I was planning on eating it. Okay, but you can have it if you want it. I feel like you said it. I feel like the way you delivered it was more like, no, like have it. I don't I don't even want that anymore. That nasty piece of fish. No, that's what you said. I did give you permission to eat it. And then you did eat it. And then I was like, you actually ate that. Guys, what do you do? Comment down below. If your spouse tells you that you can like eat something or do something and then they walk it back. Who is the problem? I'm not even hungry. So it's fine. I just was trying to be silly. I'm always very impressed at like what you're like kind of be careful. I always say this. You never know you could be clipped these days. And how much I eat? I'm impressed. Yeah, you're able to like, but I feel like I get that a lot, but I feel like you're not able to eat as much right now because of limited limit real estate. I know I'm inhibited in the belly area. I know it's frustrating. I used to eat so much more. Does that make you upset that you're not able to like do you want to taste that delicious flavor of food? I personally think it's funny about me. What? I don't have to enjoy the taste of it to eat it. Are you kidding me? I love eating for food. No, I love eating too. I love eating foods I like, but also I don't have to like it. And I'll just eat it. That quote from the Grinch. Am I just eating because I'm bored? That's literally me all the time. You know what? I was just thinking about a quote from the Grinch survey. What was it? Look at that hack. What made you think about that quote? Oh my god. I know exactly what you're talking about. You just beat yourself. Oh gosh, I'm so sorry. Do you need do you need anything? No, I just said I just came to the realization that I'm my first pants down appointment tomorrow so I just needed to do something. I'm offended you didn't ask for me for help. It's like a whistle. You're like whistling when you laugh at heart. It's so so bad. I can't help that by the way. I literally can't help that. You got that from your papa. I know it makes me miss him. Now that it's so strong. Yeah. Shout out to papa. But his belly did kind of look like this. So that's probably where it came from. And that's why I loved him. What are we talking about? We're talking about. Oh, I have a first pants down appointment. I was supposed to take the kids with me. Yeah. And then I was like, that's probably not going to happen now. So they're going to hang out with my parents. Well, you have I think you have a work call so that I'm like, well, guess I'm just going by myself. How does how does that feel having having all of that? It's fine vulnerability. Oh, do you think I don't care about that literally at all? Yeah, you know, if you're a woman, you kind of have to get over that really quick, especially when it comes to birthing a human. Totally. You know, but like, I don't know. I mean, that does intimidate you to be like, well, it's also a woman. I feel like I would feel a little less comfortable if it wasn't. Yeah, yeah. That's part of my criteria. But other people don't have that criteria. That's fine. It's not like I've never seen a male doctor, but it's been for you and far between. I love that clip. You sent me of the of the doctor. Um, the really chill doctor. That was the male. They're really chill. Yeah. Uh, we've been okay. So we were instructed by our doula to watch like births, which I don't think Matt's watched that many births except for that one. Yeah, we've been instructed to watch positive birth experiences exactly to think positively. Yeah, but sometimes even the positive ones don't feel so positive at times if they're unmedicated, like positive birth story. And then it's like on it's like, and I'm like, that's not positive. Oh, yeah. I said my goal for this birth is just to have fun. I want to have fun. I love that for you. I literally can't believe I'm just sitting here in PB fans right now. Is that okay? Oh my gosh. I feel so bad. It's just a trickle. Okay. Well, if you're okay with it, I'm okay with it. I mean, I'm not loving it. Okay. If you want to go change by all means, that sounds worse. That does sound worse. Okay. I'm not going to do it again. Be honest. Would you be happy if I installed one of those like chair lifts to go up and down this day? I think that would be a really good investment. Like that they have at like hospitals and stuff. I have to be a really good investment for the next like four weeks. And schools. Schools have those. You know, if someone is in a wheelchair, then they can they can take the little chair. Honestly, I feel like it would be a good investment for a lot of reasons. Yeah. You could have our house be ADA compliant. Finally. Just for you. No, for anyone that comes to our house. Yeah. Any type of handicap. No, what I was saying is our doula told us to watch positive bursts. And I don't think Matt's watching except for the one that I sent you. And the doctor was this male OB. He was so chill. And the reason I sent it to you because he was instructing the dad how to catch the baby. Yeah. And he's actually not going to describe the video. I think we are humor has gotten a bit more adult. I mean, like there were some terms thrown around there that that were pretty pretty. It's anatomy. Yeah, human anatomy terms. Yeah, but actually isn't this C word anatomy too. I think so. Yeah. See, but that one doesn't feel like anatomy. That feels like a bad word. It's just so it's just a little taboo. You know, yeah. But like a preference. It's not the seat like not the C word C word. Are you talking about? Which see what you're talking about? You're talking about the C word C word? Yeah, is that anatomy? That's not it. That's an actual body part. But that's like that's derogatory. Unless you're in the UK. You're still excited to catch the baby. I am. I am. Yeah, we decide. Guys, we have. See, why does that feel like a pipe dream right now? Like actually, like going in, giving birth, everything being like successful. Like in my head, I'm like, it's going to happen. But I'm also like, can't picture it. Yeah. Uh, I truly think it's going to be the best birth experience ever. Oh, that's the type of energy. Nucks. And my thought process is based in science because my mom told me that every time she get birth, it got easier. That's scientific. Yep. Science. There's truth to that. You and your mom were talking about it. That's sweet. I mean, my whole life, she was always like, oh, the first was awful. I thought I was going to die. And then she's like, and then by the third, it was like pop out like so easy. Really? Yeah. I was. You guys talk about it recently when they were in town. Uh, I feel like she's talked about it with you and Abigail and and different pregnant. Has your dad ever sat you down and been like, you know how it is in my family? We tell the same story over and over. Every family does that. Every family. Yeah. But I feel like it's extra worse in my family. They do have their stories. Yeah. It's okay. I repeat myself like crazy. True. Like I literally repeat people. I want people to be like, Hey, by the way, you've told me this before and not even just one time. Like you've told me so many times. But then I say, that's how you know I'm not lying. I feel like for everyone that's listened to our show since the beginning, they've probably heard us say the same thing more than once before. You know, I repeat myself on the podcast a million times. And at
He's like you already said that and I'm like really sorry. Please forgive us. I just like to hear myself talk apparently I mean who else would have why else would I have two podcasts a week hours of footage of just me running my voice I can't even listen to my own voice so I don't know how people are doing it But I applaud them. I personally like your voice. I think it's unique. I think it's cute I think it's lovely and it was something that made me like you more really yeah, that's sweet I think it's sweet. It's really sweet. Okay. Talk to me about something For anybody that isn't aware Abby just launched a makeup company called Bizwell Beauty See even you're just saying make-up company makes me really just have to say it launched Bizwell Beauty Essential mascara. Ah, okay, why did it make you so nervous there? Like why I'm like, oh my gosh. I don't know and I'm not a company. I'm not a company Just that word is big, but yeah, we did well, I'm very proud of you because for anybody that didn't know It sold out it like it it completely sold out everybody was buying this stuff It it's kind of hard like With this new this new company that we I mean, we've never done something like this before go with the word company again Oh, okay with this new product we've never done something like this and knowing how much to make and And like plan for demand is is something that I guess like every business does But we're just new to it and so so what's crazy is that we have had I mean just being in the space that we are Yeah, we had like a lot of brands and Companies like legit companies asked to do some type of partnership. Yeah, like it's like their company But then they help you like somewhat design and tweak your own product with them. Mm-hmm. Obviously, there's limitations there. Yeah And every single time we've been presented with that opportunity It's always just been like no because we had this vision for like what this for what are like For what our mascara could be and also I was like if when I do something I wanted to be like fully us fully our own No, this is literally no shade anyone that does that other option I love partnerships and I Purchased them and I'm I support them and I like I'm excited about them That's just wasn't what we wanted to do like that wasn't the vision for what we had But After doing that and my man There's a lot of perks because they can project inventory needs. Yeah, quite a bit better They can handle a lot of the things website-wise shipping-wise legality-wise Everything Mm-hmm. They could handle that. Yeah, but like us doing that internally was really crazy. Mm-hmm. And Also made it extremely rewarding Yeah, I'm I'm really really proud like I don't think let me let me just give you a little bit of like we have them because I Obviously you know you've been a part of this. That's very beginning but like it wasn't like we just like I Don't know I used a mascara and I was like this is great Put my name on it. It was like we literally it's chemistry Yeah, and I've learned so much from doing this like it's literally like a chemist is like creating this formula with us to be the Perfect formula for like what I like love in a mascara and to fix all the problems But the existing mascara is that I really liked but just weren't like you know right right there and So like it's literally chemistry. We're working with a lab like and then It's just there's so many steps to it. Yeah, and there's so many regulations and tests and it takes it takes a long time For this paperwork goodness. Addy printed this all off for the launch party. Oh, it's 75 pages Wait, sorry. What is all this paperwork? So this right here is the full service finished product specification that we did with the lab This is one product. This is one and this is everything that went into that one product 75 pages. Yes That's ridiculous and like even just like Doing that like from the beginning, it's just it's it's been so cool to learn everything And it's something that I was like, you know, you say things. You're like, Oh, I'll be so cool I did this but like in the back of your head you're like if that happens, you know, that's probably not gonna actually happen It happened and now it's like in people's hands and it's so cool. Yeah, that like they're loving the product too as much as I am and I Obviously feel like there's a lot of things that we still need to work out. We're working on other things I have also been in the works long before this launch had happened But now that the launch happened and it was so successful and makes these other existing Yeah, I can't say I can say other existing products and projects Like all that more exciting. Yeah, because it's like People are wanting it and so that that like people it's really just fueled by like my own love of mascara but then also like This community and like wanting to meet a need and like I feel like a lot of us moms like if makeup is gonna take more than Honestly fact minutes. It's like I can't afford that amount of time Thank you to our place for sponsoring this portion of today's episode We cook dinner for our family basically every single night. It's easier than going out We love a night in just bonding with our family That's really like our quality family time and a big part of that quality time is preparing the meal together And we have just switched over to our place pots and pans. 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Well, that's what I love about the products and development right now is It's all it's all products that will help you quickly put on makeup It's not going to take you 30 minutes to get your makeup done because no mom is able to do that Even even people that aren't moms like time time is like one of our most valuable resources And so if you're trying to get out the door and you need to you know do something for your eyebrows your lashes Maybe do some lipstick whatever like you don't have 30 minutes So that's what I love about everything you've got in the works and we just put in a reorder for More mascara and then it has to go through testing and there's all these things like there's all these processes that it has to go to but There's a due process rules and regulations rules and regulations This is this is like legit stuff. We're not just like white like I I feel like the most common thing that I'll hear about when it comes to Creators launching companies is oh, they're just finding something off of Alibaba and and like white label like it That's not at all what's happening here like there's a lot going into makeup Yeah, that would be kind of crazy after waiting seven years to ever sell your own product and then yeah It's like that wasn't yeah, but um, well, I do want to touch on something really quick though because it's like obviously I'm the first to leave the house with no makeup some days and I think there's nothing wrong with that And I think it's really healthy and good and like sometimes it's just not the number one priority But for those days that I do get it in which I wear makeup most days of the week I just feel like a different type of Confidence I feel like a different type of just femininity identity like I just feel more ready to take on my day It's and I think moms and other women know what I mean like it's not like oh, I need this to leave But sometimes it's just like that little piece of identity that you're getting back and that little piece of confidence that you're just like huh, okay, like It's just especially in a season where like you're really not prioritizing yourself like being a mom to babies and toddlers and I can't speak for the future stages, but in general like being a mom is like one of the most selfless things You can do and so it's just one little piece to like show yourself some love show yourself some like Femininity and Confidence and so yeah, I'm really excited about everything that is we're coming in advance I even though I can say I feel like so many times with the mascara I was like trying to talk about it and I just kept getting edited out So I'm like, what am I gonna say that's gonna be not okay? We have more calls every single day about it and More testing and I you're you're full of mom and you right now And I really need to I really need to test the product on you honestly, is that okay? That's okay. Yeah, dude. I've actually told you that I was like you might as well show people What this stuff could do on my lashes? So yeah, the thing about your lashes is like I'm a big huge fan of curling my lashes You certainly need to curl your lashes. They're straight out. You're telling you're gonna put mascara on me and curl my lashes Yeah, I think I think it's what it's gonna take I you know what I'm in anything for you babe. Okay. Yeah Well, guys If you have not been to bizwill-budy.com
and checked out the website, it looks so good. The product images of Abby look so, so good. I think she looks adorable in them and not only that, but even though we did sell out, you can actually, if you want, sign up to be notified when we are back in stock. And that way you can be the first to hear when there's more product available. Because-- - I would suggest doing that too, because I just don't want you guys to be disappointed. And I do know that we're just limited right now. It's so frustrating, because I'm like, I'm right there with you guys, I'm frustrated. - And I feel bad, oh my gosh, there's been so happy, have you seen all the comments from people that are in Australia, the United Kingdom, Canada, other countries, that's like the most common countries I've seen people say that weren't able to buy it, but yeah, it's only available in the United States right now, just because there's so many legal things we have to do, and so much paperwork, and like, filings we have to do for tax purposes, that we're focusing on the US, we want to make sure that, like, we do all that. - We will just send it to them, just like-- - Like, I think if you want to set-- You could probably, if we want to, we could send as a gift. - Oh, I did, a couple. - Okay, yeah, we could send a gift to someone that did-- - I just want to make sure I didn't break the law. - Oh no, you're allowed to legally gift someone in another country from-- - Perfect. - But like, entering into commerce in, you know, a different country. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That brings on a whole different set of rules and regulations, like, I didn't notice you guys in Canada. I was like, why can't we sell in Canada? In Canada, you have to have everything like, in French, okay? Because of Montreal, Quebec, people-- Like, a lot of people, they're first-- - Oh, great, now I learn French. - Yeah, most people, and those, or not most people, but a lot of people in Montreal and Quebec speak French. So then we have to have everything in French for those people that it's their first language. - How do you say "Bizbole" in French? - "Bizwill." (laughing) - That is not a French word, I'll tell you that. - Anyway, so if that's you, and you're like, in a different country listening to the show or watching the videos, we're so sorry. We will get to you eventually. We just want to make sure that we do this all correctly. - We got to do this above bar, above brow. So, I don't know, I should not say phrases. - Yeah, we already, because of how everyone was buying-- - I didn't pass the bar. - You didn't pass the bar? (laughing) - Oh yeah, we're not lawyers. So we're making sure that we talk to people that are that and can tell us what to do. - Have you been talking to lawyers? - No. - See, that's the problem. (laughing) - Frick. So, above board. - Above board. It's not brow, it's not bar, it's board, above board. - Also, I think we need to acknowledge, like Abby is so ready for maternity leave right now. Her legs are propped up on me. - I'm on maternity leave. - You're on maternity leave right now? - Just with a lot of lights and cameras on me. - With a lot of water and cameras. You know, this baby's coming very soon. I think by the time you guys watch this episode, the baby could be here. - Wait, really? - Which is actually, yeah, I mean, especially, especially if the baby comes early, which I think is more likely than ever. Abby was just feeling what's called cramps. - So I've been getting bracks and hicks. Like I know those, just extremely, extremely mild ones. - How would you describe a bracks and hick to someone that's never experienced a bracks and hicks? - Literally just feels like you're tummy tightening. - And that probably can't even feel too good, does it? - It doesn't hurt. It's just like a intensity, a pressure. - Yeah. - The thing that I feel like it's kind of hurts is like if you're having that and then the baby starts kicking, then that's where it's like, ugh. - The craziest thing that I've seen you experience is already having contractions. They've never been like timed that much apart. I saw your face like, his fur right there. But I've never seen them like close apart, at least recently. But I just like feeling your belly when you have a contraction, holy cow. Like it is such a bricking muscle, just going to work. - Yes, yes, that's exactly what it is, it is a muscle. - Yes. - Yeah, and I think I actually saw something recently, or maybe it was our doula. No, I think it was our doula. She was like, people get intensity and pain when it comes to birth and like contractions confused. Like intensity doesn't necessarily mean pain. - Yeah. - And I mean, I was like, that's interesting because I don't remember it feeling good. But it is true, like it's really intense, but I guess not necessarily painful, at least especially early on in labor. This isn't labor, this isn't real labor. It's just like I get a little crampy, get a little brextin hickey. - Why did we wait till the fourth pregnancy to hire a doula? - I don't know. - Because I feel like this is the smartest thing we've ever done. - Really? - Because we were going back and forth on the horn. - Yes, I think it's so smart. - Yeah, I think it's a good idea. - Because that's like, that's all they do. And look, doctors, we've been so fortunate to have good doctors that especially like in crisis with the first pregnancy, you know, Abby's doctor just like jumped into action and just knew what to do when she experienced our son getting stuck in the birth canal. Like doctors are amazing, but something that I've noticed from now having a doula work with us is the doula has like all the bedside manner and then some. - Yeah, that's true. We didn't necessarily always have that before. - Yeah, they just know how to like answer any questions we might have and not make us feel rushed, not especially not make you feel rushed because you know, doctors, they're delivering babies. - And also because of your own doctors and the one delivering it, you're just now meeting the nurse. It's really nice to have, I'm assuming it's gonna be really nice to have a familiar face that is extremely friendly. - Yeah. - And also like so much of like our labor before was like just me and you in the room. - And with the doula now, we've had more time with this doula just in like one prep course than we ever. - It's coming over tomorrow. - Then we ever had like combined, I would say for both pregnancies before with your first doctor. - That's true. - Now, you know, obviously, obviously the new doctor that you have now, we've spent a lot of time with her because of miscarriage and all sorts of things that have come with that. But if it weren't for that delivery that you had last year, I feel like just, we just like the appointments with her are just very, very quick. It's like five minutes here, 10 minutes there. So it's nice that the doula can like really hang out with us and we can get to know her. - That's true. And then also I feel like she makes me less afraid to speak up about things. I'm not even saying like I trust my doctor's judgment and I like I wanna know what their opinion is. But just like I feel more confident to have like an actual birth plan because someone else is gonna say it. - Yeah. - 'Cause it's like for us, we felt kind of like bad. Like I don't wanna bother them or like saying like, oh you wanna catch the baby or we wanna do X, Y or Z. Put our placenta in a cooler place. - It's almost like the doula. It's like the doula is there more for your feelings and the doctor is there more for your health. - That's great. - I love someone there for both. - Doctors job, let's make sure everyone lives and doesn't have any serious injuries. - Well I think that doctors also just there to be like really conservative with risk. - Yeah, oh yeah, 100%. And that's why sometimes doctors will not recommend a V-back because they just are very weary of taking on risk. But yeah, I like that the doula will then look at the risk and say, okay well, there's a 1% chance for you. Or it's a 2% chance of this thing happening. So I think that's cool. I'm glad that you, that your friend who had a doula recommended her to you. - Shout out Val. - And then got a shout out Val. - She's actually gonna go on always here. - She is. - Guys, Abby's gonna do like a brief maternity leave from both podcasts, we've been recording a bunch with some very exciting guests. So we're excited for you guys to listen to those. But on always here, yeah, we're gonna have a friend takeover where her friends come on, especially the notorious Val that everyone's been asking about. 'Cause I guess you guys talk about Val a lot on always here. - I know, I was really hesitant to actually, so they offered. They were like, we're gonna come and then we'll take care of everything, including your work, which was super sweet. - So sweet, so sweet. - And I was just like, ha ha ha. And then they were like, they kept bringing it up. They were like, no, we're serious. - Yeah. - And I was like, well, I mean, if you're serious and I was just still hesitant though, because I'm always like, I chose to take on, this is my shenanigans. Like I don't want to reel other people into my shenanigans. And all that comes with obviously posting your life on the internet. Like I was like, I don't want to reel. I don't want to, my friends are not like public figures. They certainly could be. I'd follow them. I would love it. - They're great. - They were great. I think they should be. - Yeah. - But, well, actually, I don't, I think everyone should have to make that decision for themselves because it comes with a lot. But yeah, I'm like, I'm always so weary. I'm like, I'm protective. That's what it is. I'm like, yeah. But they are gonna be, I trust that everyone will be kind to them. And they're awesome. So they should be, they had no reason to not be. But it'll be fun. I'm excited to listen to it. - Oh my gosh, that'll be so weird. - I know. - Holding our newborn baby and then listening to your show, but you're not even on it. - I know. - Yeah. - Which I'm like, I can't even, I just cannot wait to get to holding him because it's been such a long journey. - Thank you to Unreal for sponsoring this portion of today's episode. After every meal, I need to end on something just a little bit sweet. - Oh yeah. - And we're a huge fan of Unreal Snacks for this very craving because they have simple ingredients way less sugar than typical candy.
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As a special offer for our listeners, visit unrealsnacks.com/unplanned to get $4 off a bag of unreal. That's unrealsnacks.com/unplanned, terms and conditions apply. - Can we talk about how we're gonna handle the logistics of adjusting from two boys to three boys? - Yes, 'cause I think this is a good plan. - Okay, so shout out Grandma and Grandpa. Abby's parents are going to have our two boys that are already here over at their house for a week while we adjust-- - Just for a bedtime. - Oh, just like for overnight. - Yeah, just overnight. Okay, so our boys are at her. Actually, didn't even know that. I just thought they were there. - They were gone. - I thought they were having a stay-cation at Grandma's office. - Well, we went up to at least meet their brother and see Mom and Dad, make sure everything's okay. But then they'll spend the night at their house. - Okay, so yeah, our boys are spending the night at Grandma and Grandpa's, AKA Honey and Ga. And that's gonna allow us to fully support each other. - And bond with new baby. - New born stage. 'Cause I feel like the first week is the hardest, right? - The first week is obviously the most demanding, but also I think it's really important that we both in the night have each other support. - Yeah. - Especially for me, recovering from birth. And then just learning how to breastfeed. And then also both of us just bonding with this baby. - Yeah. - Like, obviously our kids know that we love them so much and we have all this history, but this baby is like, I'm new to this world. Who can I, who's my mom and dad, like all these things? So that's the focus of our week one. Is everyone just letting the dust settle. - Totally. - Brothers meet baby brother. And I think I honestly think our boys are gonna adjust really while I hope this isn't naive of me, but like they're very flexible and also just very excited to have a baby brother, but also they're very independent. And so I think like at worst our boys are going to just be disinterested in a baby. - How do you feel about our boys starting school? 'Cause that's happening at the same time. - They're also just gonna go to like a half day pretty school just a few days of the week, just like in a someone's home. - Are you happy or sad about that? - So sad, being you wanna know why? - Why? - It's because I was listening to the Finding Nemo story with them today in the car and they were like, first day of school, it's like at the end of the movie, Marlon and Nemo, and then he like swims off and then he like comes back and he says, I love you dad and then swims back to school. (laughing) - I am the night though. - You're so sweet, you're so sweet. - And I thought about them having their little backpacks while I'm actually walking into school. That, I think we should unenroll them actually. I think that's a bad plan. (laughing) - My favorite was last night our kids just running around no clothes on whatsoever, running into each other and laughing, they probably did that like 75 times. - Are you crying too? - Ugh, no actually, I mean, it got me, you're like, that struck me. - He comes back and says, love you dad and then goes back off to school. Like they're just so fun. And I'm like, I know it'll be good for them to like learn, but gosh, but I gotta go, you know? And then I was like very sure that we can never send them to full day, five days of the week. - That's a big adjustment. - We never gonna happen. - That's a very big adjustment. - Never gonna, they can't go to high school, that's never gonna happen. But I think it will be good. And this is all starting around the same time that we're gonna have a baby probably. So I think they're gonna be very well suited for the transition in the sense of like, there's a couple of things changing at the same time. So then everything, like we're all just into new routines. So it's not just like, oh, all of a sudden, baby, new. Mom can't go out in the morning and have a fun activity with us every single day. Like, it's like they already have their own things and they're very, very excited about school. They talk about it all the time. One of them's just going to like a home preschool and the other one's going to a Montessori preschool. So. - Yeah, they of course bring their backpacks with them everywhere, especially when we travel. That's like their favorite thing is to put toys inside their backpack for the trip. So they're gonna have a lot of things to look forward to at the same transition. It's not even related to the baby. But that's week one. And then I'm assuming that by week two, let's just say successful V-back. I'm feeling better after week, obviously still heavily postpartum. But me and the baby are getting a little bit more experienced with the breastfeeding thing. Breastfeeding is going well. You obviously can't feed the baby in the night. And then if you do feed him a bottle, I would still need a pump. So then I will then switch to taking over baby mode in the nights. And you take over toddler mode in the nights. - Yeah. - Which you would think that our toddlers have very little requirements in the nights. - That would be incorrect. They have a lot of requirements. - They've been asking me quite often now to sleep in the room with them. - Yeah. - Like I think they know. - And I'm afraid you actually might do it. - I think they know like that could be on the horizon for us. - Are you gonna do it? Do you want, like, what do you think? Do you want me to? Or would you rather be sleeping in the room with you and our newborn? - I honestly kind of like the idea of you sleeping with the toddlers. Because then I'm not working up to the monitor. - Yeah, you're not getting woken up by our kids too. - Yeah, like I only have one kid to wake me up. - And if you're like up for two hours in the night, breastfeeding, then with our kids wake up at 6.30, you could sleep when our baby sleeps. - Yeah, I think that's a good setup. - Yeah. - We're gonna have to navigate that one as it comes, but in that mode, you're on toddler duty. I'm on baby duty. Obviously, if I need to, you're gonna be stepping in with the baby too during the day. - Yeah. - And like I'll be obviously not neglecting our toddlers. I feel like I just say that because you gotta, gotta cross all your bases on the internet. But that will be like more how we navigate. - I'm the primary contact for baby, your primary contact for Griffin and Augie. - And you're probably wondering, Matt and Abby, what's happening with this whole like, fitting five people in a vehicle? How are you gonna, don't you need a new car? - You're gonna have two road vehicles. - Do you wanna fill everybody in on what happened with the mom car situation? - I got my mom car. - Abby got her mom car. It's official. We have it. I forced you into a mom car because I was like, there's no way we're fitting three mega car seats in the back comfortably. - Yeah, that's true. - And then you upgraded me to a very nice mom car and it's been really nice. It's been really great. - Yeah, so Abby was like-- - Right now it feels so frivolous because we literally have two kids. - Yeah. - But I know we're gonna be glad we have the extra space. I'm kind of an electric vehicle, like guy, I guess. I guess I just love electric vehicles. And then Abby's like, I want a vehicle that has three rows. And so-- - There's not a lot on the market right now with those. - There's not a lot that have, there's actually only one electric vehicle on the market that's a family vehicle that has captain seats, right? Am I incorrect? Did the Kia EV9 had captain seats? But then the back row was super small. - No trunk. - And there was no trunk space. So then we ended up going for the escalade. - Yeah. - And so that's what we ended up with. - It's super, super nice. And like, I just know that we're gonna get a lot of use out of it. - Yeah. - And we're already planting road trips in it. Once baby comes, I feel really safe driving it. And yeah, it feels really, it feels real now. I think once we install the baby's car seat in there, we have three big car seats. It's when it's gonna be like, oh wow, this is real. And yeah, it's very exciting. - Yeah. - Three kids is a logistical jump, for sure. - It is, it is. I think-- - Before we even have three. I'm just, the logistics are, it's a jump, for sure. Two is like pretty compact when you really think about it. A family of four. - I wonder who the kids are gonna take after because I feel like our second born takes after me. Mostly, I feel like everything that he does, my mom would be like, oh, used to do that when you were a kid, Matt. And then our first born takes after Abby. So I'm curious who the next, who are new baby boys gonna take after. - Probably me. - You think you? - Yeah, I think it's me. - Why you? - No, I'm just kidding, I have no idea. I think he's gonna be a blend. - Yeah. - I don't know, which one of us is more chill because I feel like this baby's gonna be chill. That might just be wishful thinking.
It depends on what it is. I feel like you're very laid back for a mom. - Really? - Yeah. - Oh yeah. Yeah, you definitely are. - Okay. - Unfortunately, neither one of us are chill. - Well, here's the thing. No, I think you're chill because a chill mom would have never allowed our kids to have a stock pile of toys in the closet for like, what was that? - No, that stressed me out, Megah. - That was going on for like 12 months. If you guys have ever seen our cleaning videos on TikTok, I always would put a little video in of our toy closet and it looked bad. You guys, it was just a freaking stock pile of toys all, you know, all jumbled up together. And when-- - Kids, when they come to our house, head straight for it. - And Abby has such sweet friends. Abby, who's actually in the room right now, our sister-in-law, Abby. She threw Abby a surprise party for her mascara company. And so then when everybody was over for the mascara, launch and celebrating Abby, they were like, wait a minute. What if we all together joined in in like just, in like one hour or whatever, we'll clean this-- - Launch party turned into a clubhouse overhaul. - How long did that take you and all your friends to clean the toy closet? - It was less than two hours. - Oh wow, okay, so it did. So yeah, that still was like a while, but you had how many women working together? - Five. - Five women spent an hour and 45 minutes on this toy closet? - Yeah, probably. - And now it looks so good. - It does, it's so-- - Like that night after we like organized everything, like we donated a bunch of stuff, like actually got to scrub the floor. That was gross. That was disgusting. - Yeah. - And we needed to just put that out there. - Those hadn't been cleaned in a minute. - Yeah. - But-- - A shaven seat. Like, Caitlin, how do you use a butter knife to get something off the floor? - Oh gosh. - I don't know what it was. - But hey, now-- - Biohazard. - But now, there's a section for weapons. They have their lightsaber. - There's a weapon section. - A weapon section. - Big truck section, little truck section. Action figure section, little action figure section. Balls, more balls, scooters. - Legos. - Legos. - Legos, blocks, trains. - The train section is cool too. I love that every single bin they can take out, play with it and then put it back. And it's not all jumbled up. - They actually do. - They do. You were so right about that, by the way. - Thank you. - Abby explaining this idea to me, which I thought was so silly. Which is, if you have all of your kids' toys like super organized, they'll get more play out of them. And I think you're 100% right. - Yes. - Because now they're like, ah, we play with our blocks. Okay, time to put them away. And then we, you know-- - They're like, what are we gonna play with next? It's like, they're making a conscious decision. - Exactly. - Rather than just like, tripping on a toy and being like, oh, I'll play with that. - And if you're a parent inside-- - There's all the other ones. - If you're like a parent, you're like, yeah, right. How do you get your kids to pick up your blocks? Here's how you do it. You say, whoever picks up their blocks first gets to be the first to have their popsicle. And then once one kid has popsicle. - You bribe them. - Once one kid has a, yeah, popsicle than the other kids. Like, oh, I want one too. - I want one too. - Yeah, you know, that's one of those things and before you're a parent, you're like, I'm not gonna bribe or negotiate with a two-year-old. - Yeah, you'd have to. - And then you have a two-year-old and you're like, this is the only leverage I have. - Exactly. I've organized a lot of areas of our house because I feel like the thing that was stressing me out more was making sure that our older kids were Uber organized before baby comes because I know that they're, I'm not gonna be able to focus on that. Once you see her, so I want to make sure everything's in place for them. And then I'll be fully focusing on baby. And then I think also just third baby realizing they really don't need much in place. Like, that's not the priority. And especially with having extra help with the older boys, I want to make sure that's seamless for whoever's stepping in giving extra help, my parents watching them for that. - Totally. - By the time. Yeah, we officially went through all their clothes and going through all the toys, went through the mudroom, got rid of the shoes that don't fit. And everything is kind of finding its place. We still have to do all the baby stuff. - Yeah, the house is looking really good. - Yeah, nesting is for real. Yeah, nesting has begun. It's looking more organized, looking tidy. I think getting rid of things too is so nice. Like, you guys, we think goodness have this system in our neighborhood where like every month or so, they have bulk trash pick up. And I had all this junk that was just like piling up in the back corner of our house. And I set like a bunch of it out. - Hey, one man's junk is another man's junk. - That's right. - And so, and so that's what I did. I actually put out some things that like, I felt bad about throwing away. So I was like, I need to donate these, but then I realized, wait a second, people will even drive around and like pick up, you know, if it's a rug or if it's a fence or you know, whatever it may be to like either take it for themselves or get it for free and resell it. So I put out like a dog fence that we had to help, like teach our dog to go poop on a certain corner of our backyard. - And now she does it. - And now she does it without the fence. So I took the fence away, put that fence out for the bulk trash pick up and then someone came and took it before the bulk trash pick up came. So I was very thankful for that. I was like, hey, someone got it for free, you know, another man's trash is another man's treasure. So. - This show is sponsored by BetterHealth. We talk about mental health more openly now than ever, probably. But asking for help can still feel hard sometimes and BetterHealth's latest research confirms that. In fact, BetterHealth's 2026 State of stigma report surveyed 2,000 Americans and revealed that 85% of Americans believe getting support is wise. Yet 74% say society discourages people from doing so. BetterHealth makes therapy accessible wherever you are, whether that's online or through the app. - A short questionnaire helps identify your needs and preferences and they're 12 plus years of experience and industry-leading match fulfillment rate. Means we typically get it right the first time. 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That's betterhtlp.com/unplanpodcast. - I just made me think about how the neighbors called the cops on us. - Oh, how do you feel about that? - How do you feel about that? - I feel like that wasn't very neighborly. - Yeah, I know, I think, you know, here's the thing. - So let me just say, you were at a town. Let me think this over. - Okay, I was at a town and the neighbors called the cops on Abby. - No, not me, they called it on pretzel. - They called it on a dog. - Which, here's the thing. If you were genuinely concerned about our dog, appreciate that. - Yeah. - The only problem is that you are our neighbor. - Yeah. - And if you were genuinely concerned, why don't you just go talk to him? - Yeah, why don't you just knock on the door. - They just want to make sure, like, your dog's been outside, is, are they okay? - Yeah, and then what would you say if? And I'd say, oh, she's a water dog. She literally begs and rings her bell all day long to go outside and get in our pool. And she just swims laps constantly. - She's part otter. - Yeah, she's basically part otter, so. - And so during the launch party, everything's happening on the same day, of course. - Yeah. - She's outside swimming, but since people were inside, she kept seeing people coming. And so every once in a while, she'd be like barking to come inside, just get right back in the pool and start swimming laps. It was not like a constant thing, but yeah, my opinion is that this neighbor couldn't file for a noise thing 'cause it was 6.30 PM. - Yeah. - And so they just wanted to just go ahead and send the cops over. - So actually everyone kept commenting on how she's just swimming laps and loves the pool. The cop was literally like so apologetic though. They were like, I'm so sorry, like, clearly your dog, 'cause pretzel loves anyone. - Yeah. - She's a golden retriever. She runs and she's like sopping wet and like so excited. And she was already inside at this point too, like the time that he came. And he was like, I'm so sorry. He's like, but you just made my day by having such a happy joyful dog to like greet. And he was like such a nice cop, but yeah. Dang it, I think we need to send those neighbors some donuts or something. - I know, maybe they're going through something, you know? Maybe they wish they had a dog and they don't have one. - I don't think they want to know. - I don't think they like dogs at all. - Oh. - That's my. - Okay. - Yeah, yeah, that's my thing. - Interesting. - Interesting. - Yeah, that would be the word for interesting. - Interesting. Anyway, maybe we should invite them over for a swim. - Speaking of pretzel. - With pretzel. - Speaking of our dog pretzel, you guys submitted some questions for us on Instagram. And I wanted to address a couple of these because we love just getting to talk with you and chat with you and want to know what's on your mind. And so the first of these questions is, how is life going with Ms. Pretzel and how old is she now? - How old is she like nine or 10 months? - Yeah, she's getting close to being a year old. - She's 10 months. - She's 10 months old. 'Cause she was born in September of 2025. - She's so cute. Like she's like genuinely, like we look at her, and we're like, she's so beautiful. - And? - I just love golden retrievers too. - And she plays so well with the boys.
to like it cracks me up whenever if I'm not being the bad guy when it comes to playing with the boys like my my sons love it when I'm our boys love it when I pretend to be a bad guy pretzels the bad guy so they're like oh it's the bad guy we just have to remind them that they can't actually hit pretzel with the lightsaber they just I know you know we can pretend you know we can pretend that like she is a dog and we can't we can't hit her with the lightsaber okay that's not okay so yes I think because pretzel never like entered into our family we already had toddlers she's like she knows no different so she's just like she's so chill with that stuff um she's definitely still a puppy oh yeah definitely very eager when guests come over very maybe kind of think she's a cat yeah she does know how to go and walks now which is how to jump onto our dining table we found out she did jump on our dining table the other day like she did not get trained to do that in training camp she got trained not to do that yeah she is broken that's what one of our kids sells her he says pretzel don't forget your training yeah this training training don't forget your training um so yeah she's she's naughty for sure she's gorgeous she's fun she's amazing swimmer and um there's something that happens if you have a dog after you have kids is that you don't she'll never be give it she was never in the kid position in our hearts if that makes sense yeah so she's just she's fully in the pet position yeah and we love her yeah I think the funniest thing is just how much energy she has and how long she can swim she's an athlete like she's she's she's try I swear guys she's part otter because she legitimately she's her tried to like die down in the pool like now it's not even it's not even the fun it's not even fun enough for her to just like swim back and forth and get toys she has to like freaking scuba dive and touch the bottom like can dogs actually do that I don't know I have no idea but she's trying to push the limits she literally loves maybe she needs to go in a dog show honestly like maybe she'd win the whole thing now she really smell hot dog and just run if there's a dog diving competition I think pretzels would win it I know don't tell our neighbors gosh oh my gosh next question do you guys like living in Arizona yes I would say ask me not in the month of July don't ask me last week holy what was the weather last week like 110 every day if not more no more than that it was offensive yeah so hot yeah so ridiculously hot yeah it's that heat will bring it temper out of me seriously yeah yeah I get your car seats right now I know because you it doesn't cool off until the vehicles moving yep and if you're not in the pool I just don't like being outside when you're not in the pool is pretty which is also great that our dog loves to swim if I have to say that too because she literally wouldn't be able to walk most hours of the day yeah burning her paws yeah or but she like needs a lot of activity she's a high energy breed well I think that's why those pet services the doggy treadmill companies exist because people literally need to walk their dog on a treadmill it's why does that feel like Wally maybe yeah yeah probably that makes sense people no longer walk their dogs they just have a mobile treadmill service do you even like the movie Wally because I think it kind of sucks to be honest I do I like the sound the songs in it's so boring I think it's I don't think it's that great movie personally that's just my thing I think you are a little overstimulated I think I would go cocoa or up I think those like oh yeah I agree I agree so much better next question we have is where slash how long have you guys lived the longest we've actually lived in Arizona longer than any other state together no wait maybe that's wrong because wait we were in Missouri together 2017 18 19 20 so I think we're tied now I think we're tied between Missouri and Arizona crazy yeah we're about to hit longest state together in Arizona I know we've been here we've been here it's a great home base yeah it is a good home base yeah it's nice living next to a major international airport because last year we went to see usher for Abby's Christmas present we're he's just say we went to London we went to London and we're able to fly directly there because you know usher did just come to Phoenix like a month ago see that's why I would a little less travel yeah I wanted you to get to be the first of us shirts because we wanted to go to London which was dope it was dope yeah I think we should take our kids next we should and notice we didn't go see usher when he was in Phoenix if we were really that mega of fan how would we ever pass that up you're right you're right you bring up a good point I think after seeing usher I was like maybe I won't go to it's just a little bit seeing him do his cherries demonstration live for anybody that doesn't know usher goes around the whole stadium with cherries and let's women eat them from his hand and I feel like that's everything you need to know right there yeah and it goes on for a really a really long time it's also extra funny when it's like a couple and then the wife like asked permission from from her not even fully get it like I don't understand why it's so raunchy but I just it feels raunchy it's usher feeding you cherries like how could like this is supposed to symbolize something yeah I feel like it's it's the you don't fully get it either we're confused I feel like it's the what's going on the very brink of of like play you know no that that part was that was a lot but then also there's just a lot there's pole dancing yeah we there's a whole nobody preferred actually sexy moment that lasts a really long time and and the whole reason I did this with because Abby was all excited to go to an extra concert in Phoenix like three years ago and and I and I thought that we should go to one together but nobody told us that there was going to be all of that but it was it was a great show they did a great job we should have assumed given his music the dancer all the dancers were very talented they did roller roller skating on the stage yeah um some booty shadow shadow dancing um doing some very some bedroom scenes bedroom like positions we were literally just like and everyone around us is like so into where he's like yes I get that felt so I never felt more like a proof in my life I just didn't know how to behave in that environment you know what I mean yeah it was a great time hey we can't pretend that we're that like naive though because I one of our favorite shows of all time is Game of Thrones that is like you know totally different vibes yeah totally different vibes yeah totally different vibes true but with different vibes literally completely switch change the subject there that was way off this next question is from Kate Bush she said is the dad bod real wait I think she's my friend you know this person I don't know I think you want to college with her uh okay is the dad bod real I'm gonna say yes no I feel like it I feel like it happens you know I think you look more attractive than ever well I think I do think I look like more manly you don't have a soft midsection literally all well thank you you chiseled but the thing that that I feel makes me feel better about myself is apparently I think I've said this before you're much more attractive this way oh thank you but apparently oh I thought that's what you're like sympathy weight is the thing like the form your hormones as the male change just like your wife's hormones change too even though you're not physically the one growing the baby it's very common for men to like gain and lose weight along with their wives so fun fact there yeah I didn't know that until not that long ago actually so of course yeah yeah one next question we have is would you ever move back to misery what do you think you know I actually felt the strong urge to experience all four seasons again it is really fun to feel like you know the the weather change and it's fall and it's just not so hot anymore and the leaves are changing codlers and then especially spring to I don't think about that though necessarily when I see most of them you don't I guess maybe when I've flown back to Missouri after being in Arizona for a long time especially if it's like may I'm just like holy cow it is so it does look a lot greener I will say but I feel like I really like visiting because you get a taste of that but then like by day five you're like wait I haven't seen the sun like it's just been gray yeah and that like you for I forget how much I take for granted the sunshine here the sunshine just makes me so so happy so I think for now I would love to visit Missouri which we need to do we've been back for a minute yeah we do we should go I would love to take the kids back to the Saint Louis Zoo because that zoo is so nice and it's completely free and I think they were really like going up in the arch too you do that with them oh yeah I think you would be way too claustrophobic we've never even been in the arch together I did it and I didn't want to do it again how have we never been in the Saint Louis archie other baby no it's messed up crazy maybe yeah I don't know that I want to do it again but you have to get in this really tiny elevator it's just I'm claustrophobic we should go back to Missouri but well maybe Christmas time I think we should go back for Christmas time Yeah, um, but I think for now is
It's not really, our life is really here in Arizona. So, yeah, I agree. - But have so much fondness for Missouri. How do you feel about us having weekly date nights again? - So much fun. - We started doing that again based on couples therapy. - Yeah. - They're like maybe get something in place before baby, where you like have a minute to like regroup. And obviously with breastfeeding, baby's gonna be coming with us, but we just started early, like get that structure in place. And it's been so fun. - So good. - Not even to do anything crazy, but it's just so fun. - Yeah, I, uh. - That's the thing about being parents, is that like you really appreciate the smaller like moments that you can get away so much more. Like that would have just been a regular night before kids, like where we would just like happen to go out to eat. But now it's like, I like look forward to it so much. - Oh yeah. - I got those questions for couples so we could do those while we go out to dinner. - On another note, our scale died at the perfect timing. - Oh yeah, you're so right. - I have no idea how to charge that thing. - I know, I tried to charge it, but then all of the different plugs that I have don't fit it. So I have to find, I have to like go through all of our cords and figure out which one it was. - You could just use it for the next year. - Yeah. I don't know, I wanna know what I weigh. I would like to know. - Can't relate. (laughs) - We have a lot of questions about like intimacy in here, but I feel like we've already answered all those. I feel like you can just refer to one of our other episodes. - Like what? - For that, I don't know. Just like how do you prioritize that time for each other? How do you survive two kids? - Well, also here's the thing, what's gonna work for us doesn't work for everybody. Like I'm not gonna sit here and say that you should do the same thing. Especially with something as personal as intimacy. - Yeah. - Thank you to NutriFull for sponsoring this portion of today's episode. Summer is full of vacations, we can getaways and spending more time outdoors. And when you're packing for a trip, the last thing you wanna be worrying about is your hair. That's one reason I've loved having NutriFull as part of my routine. It's helped me feel more confident about my hair, whether I'm headed to the beach, exploring a new city, or were just enjoying a long weekend away. - And especially as I enter this postpartum season, I'm expecting a lot of hair shedding, hair thinning, and I'm really glad that I have NutriFull to support me during that season. - NutriFull is the number one dermatologist recommended hair growth supplement brand, and it's the number one hair growth supplement brand personally used by dermatologists. 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Like, I think we've gotten into such a good routine with our boys. I think they are just not nearly to the level of high needs that they used to be with us having to do multiple diaper changes today. And even feeding, you kind of have to, like, yeah, your kid will breastfeed, but then after breastfeeding, you have to spoon feed your kid every meal. Our kids feed themselves. They, like, okay, kind of. They do ask us to feed them. But like. - We shouldn't admit to that. - There's so much that they do all on their own. - Yeah, that's true. - Our oldest will even put on his own shoes, put on his own. - No, he gets himself dressed every morning. - Bully dressed. He can do it all by himself. - Which is actually my recommendation to you. Like, if you can find matching outfits that are, like, matching sets, and then put them together in a drawer, he is able to pick out outfits every single day for himself and put his pajamas away, throw their polips away. They're very independent boys, and I'm very proud of them for that. - I agree. Yeah, they, uh. - I think that's why they're so confident. Like, I think that, like, really has helped them. But yeah, we are in a good place. It's kind of wild that we're, we have no kids and diapers right now. We're about to obviously enter into a very diaper heavy season again, but it's crazy how they both aren't wearing diapers. We're not changing diapers right now. - I know. We did have a season there where we were thrown away underwear left and right because potty trading just-- - Regress with travel. - Yeah, when you travel, we were in Florida, and it was hard, you know, reminding our son. - So many kids in that house. He was having so much fun. He didn't want to stop and go potty, man. - Yeah, but I think we're back to-- - We're back. - To not having any accidents, which is so nice. - In a 45 minute gym class, though, I'm leaving, like, at least twice for them. - Really? - Yeah. - You have to leave twice. - Different times because actually of all of our friends, I'm the only one that has two potty trained kids. - No way. - Isn't that crazy? - That is crazy. - I just see my back. 'Cause I'm like, why do I get called out way more than everybody else it feels like, and it's because different times. - Yeah. - I'm like, maybe you should just ask the other one if they need to empty out because they probably could stand to go. Some about boys is that they never really quite empty out. - I don't know if it's just my, like, OCD, but it's so hard for me to, like, communicate to them, make sure that you're not, like, when we go to the bathroom, they just aren't really aware of germs the most. And I try to, like, tell them every time, let's not, like, touch the toilet. Let's not, like, put our body on the toilet. Like, you really don't ever want to touch that thing. And somehow, they always do. So we're still working on that part of things. Even, like, drinking water out of a water fountain, still working through the, hey, don't, like, put your mouth actually on the fountain part. - That's going to take a long time as a person that subbed in elementary schools. - Just kids just put their mouth straight on the bed. - Yeah, they're sucking on that thing. It's disgusting. - How old were the kids that were doing that, baby? - Elementary age, like-- - It's like seven, eight. - Yeah. - Eight-year-olds still put their mouth on the water fountain? Oh gosh. - It's pretty nice. - So it looks like we're gonna have a lot more of that, but-- - Yeah, I'm scared for cold and flu season, with three kids. - Oh, goodness, yeah. - Ooh. - Anywho, we could not be more excited for the life changes that are about to happen in our life. It's gonna be so busy there for a little bit, but-- - Honestly, though, this past season has been so busy that it'll be busy in a different way, I guess, but I'm really looking forward to slowing down with a baby. - Yeah. - Like, that is, they call it the newborn bubble. Like, I'm really excited for that. I already have the shows I wanna watch postpartum. I've never seen "Go More Girls," so I wanna watch that. That feels like a cozy show. Like, a watch while nursing. And I just, I'm not at the point where I'm just like, I'm so excited. And it's been a long time coming. It's been such a long journey. And I think that makes this all feel so much more, like, big and rewarding. - Yeah, 100%. - And, like, even just like the thought of seeing you, like, you with any baby, like, I always say this, 'cause I feel like people probably would not guess it, but you are so good with babies. And, like, it's so attractive to me when you have a baby, and especially when it's our baby. But then, also just, like, leaving the hospital, like, carrying, you know, they call it the hot dad walk, carrying the first seat. Like, I'm just excited for all of that. And, we just need to get some stuff set up. No, I don't think about it. Kind of set up the crib. Got to wash the baby clothes. - We wanna do a new crib- - I need a breast pant. - We're doing a new bassinet. - Yeah, we got a new one, because I gave my other one to Addy. - Ah, okay, okay, cool. So many babies are gonna be sleeping in that Griffin, Augie, Brielle, new baby. - Yes. - It's a good bassinet. That one was the Mama Rue, not Mama Rue. Four moms bassinet. - Four moms bassinet. - This time we're trying, I think it's a halo bassinet. - I loved it. - I couldn't take it back. She's got another one coming, so I didn't write. How has it been recovering from jet lag? Because you didn't really get a chance to recover. - Were you up for 27 hours straight after coming home from Turkey? - I think it was closer to 24, but yeah, I was up for about an entire day flying from Istanbul all the way back to Phoenix, Arizona. - Wait a minute, Turkey A. - Turkey A, you're right. They changed the name. Guys, did you know this? Turkey changed their name a couple years ago. - Let me know as someone who's just in Turkey. What did the Turkans say? - Is it Turkans? - They're kinda split. - Is it Turkans? They can't be Turkans. - I don't think people call them Turkans. - The Turkans. - I don't think that's the term, but everybody says something different. Like the correct way to say it is Turkey A, I guess, the Turks, Turks. - Turks. - Turks. - That's cuter. - The Turks have always had the A sound at the end of the country's name, but then recently they decided, let's have everybody say that, or at least English speakers say that. - Oh, so is that kinda like, if we were to say instead of Mexico, we were to say Mexico. - Exactly. - Exactly. - Ooh, I like that. They're like, no, say it like we say it. - Yeah.
- I like that. - Yeah. So, I mean, that's cool. - That's kind of a power move when you think about it. (laughs) - They were, I mean, from everybody that I talked to there, they were pretty amped that they had beat the US in the World Cup. Obviously, like, we're out of the World Cup. - Are they the ones that booted us out? No. - No. The game that we played them in really didn't matter for either country, but yeah, no, it's a beautiful country. I took my little brother Josh there for a hair transplant and he was so excited. He'd never been out of the country before, and so it was just cool getting to see him experience. - That transport just for it. - Yeah, just for this trip. - And now he's got a new head of hair coming. - Yes. Which, when I told him about getting a hair transplant, he had so many questions, so I just knew that he would want and love getting a hair transplant too. And. - Is that genetic? - I think it is. Maybe there's a genetic component to it. - Male pattern baldness is genetic. And a lot of people incorrectly think that it's all from the mom, it's not. It's actually both your parents that can contribute to it. - Yeah, isn't the old wives tell that it's the mom's dad? - I think so. I think that's the old wives tale, but that wives tale isn't true. - So for our kids. - It's all your genes. - Oh, it's all the genes matter. - It's all the genes matter. - Yeah. - Well, it's surprised me when you said that, so they're moving follicles from the back of your head to the front of your head. And you can't regrow follicles at the front, but the ones in the back can regrow? - Yes, exactly. - It's wild. - Except, okay, the one, they're bringing the hair follicles from where you have a lot of densely populated hairs to the spot on your head where you have no hair at all. And so if you get too many hair transplants done, then you can end up in a situation where you can't even, like your hairs don't regrow from where they reharvest or they harvest it from. So that's why you gotta be careful not to get it done too much because it stopped working. I actually don't even know. I just know that I'll probably need to get another hair transplant at some point in my life because it's not a, it's not like a one in a, and especially if you get it done when you're younger on the younger side, it's probably, you're probably gonna have recession at some point later in life. I'm not gonna lie, like I felt so bad for him because my experience getting the transplant done. - You're struggling a little. - Yeah, like the day of the procedure, my head hurt so bad. But for Josh, he didn't have that same reaction. Like I think it's just, everybody has a different reaction to local anesthetic and pain medicine. And so for me, like, - We got swollen. - He didn't really get swollen. - Exactly, that was the other thing too. My head really swelled up like a watermelon and his didn't. - He's like a donut. - Yeah, so he just, either he's tougher than me. - He also, they did something exactly different though because he had like scabs on his head. - Yeah. - You didn't really have scabs. Not the most, not as much as he did. He did get a bigger transplant done. - So you would've thought that it would've been a harder recovery, it's crazy. - They did fully shave his head. I didn't have to fully shave my head. - That's true. - So I got the DHI technique done, which don't ask me what that stands for. I completely forget, but he had an FUE transplant done where they make incisions in your head for some reason. - Never get niche. - Yeah. - Interesting. - Yeah. - Well that's crazy. - Yeah. - You guys get to do any sightseeing. - I mean, I know, but I just want to hear you say it. - Totally. I mean, we got to check out the blue mosque, which is literally older than the United States of America. It's a 410 year old mosque. So beautiful, so stunning. It's right across from the highest Sophia mosque, which at one point was Cathedral in the Eastern Orthodox Church. So that was really cool. So many straight cats in Turkey that we got to see and try to pet, one actually tried to bite me. So I had to like, jump back when the cat got, you know, I guess what the Turks told me was that the cat was like, kind of maybe nervous around me. So, 'cause I-- - Can you try to pet her? - I did, but only after other people were petting the cat. So I thought, oh, everyone's petting the cat, we're good. And the cat was like, not you. So-- - Well, my cat growing up would sleep with me, prefer, choose to sleep with me, and then bite me in the morning. So-- - That's not very nice. - You can never trust a cat. - Not at night, yeah, you can't, you really can't. But there was that. Oh, I also showed the video, babe. Josh and I got Turkish ice cream, and they do this whole little skit where they pretend to give you your ice cream, and then they take it away from you, and they have it like connected to this little metal rod. And so they put it on top of the cone, and then you go to take it, and then they pull the ice cream off, and it's not even like on the cone. And then they hand it to you, grab it, but then it's still, the ice cream is like connected to the cone at the top, but then the cone you grab is just like a decoy cone, and it slips through your hands. So they just, they just mess with you. - That's like a thing. - Yes, it's a whole thing. - That's some shenanigans. - Yeah, it's pretty funny. So they mess with Josh and I doing that. - Did you know it was gonna happen, or? - They did. Some people filled me in on the whole, you know. - That's cute. I like that. - Frank, but I mean, it's so funny. - That's funny. - Yeah. - I love that. - Yeah, but overall, it was-- - Long travel day. - Yeah, long travel day, getting there, getting back, but could not be happier for Josh. He's just so excited to have that full head of hair. - I'm happy for him today. - Yeah. - I'm excited to see his results. - Yeah. - 'Cause obviously you guys had different types of hair loss, so I feel like it's gonna be interesting. - Exactly, yeah. - It was really sweet. We, did you get this on the YouTube video? - What? - Josh asking, you asked his boyfriend, no, who asked his boyfriend? Your dad asked his boyfriend, are you excited to see Josh with a full head of hair? And he was like, I don't really, like, he's really excited about it, so I'm excited about it, but I don't really care. Like, he's so tall anyway. I know once he's dumb, said, like you just had a really sweet and cute response. - He did. - So, that's just sweet. - I wish I caught that on video. I actually didn't get that on video, and I wasn't there for that. Did you hear, were you there when that happened? - I think your parents told me. - Oh, okay, yeah. - That's sweet. I'm excited for him. He's such a sweet guy and he deserves, he deserves to do something special for himself. - 100%. - Everyone needs a little something to give him a little confidence boost, and it's cool that he got to do it to you, 'cause otherwise, he probably never would have gotten to do this, so what a cool opportunity. You guys get to do together. We literally picked you up from the airport, me and the kids, and then I was like, hey, by the way, I'm leaving at 7 a.m. for massage. I felt bad about that, but that was all that was available, and I really needed a massage. - Well, I'm glad that you went to the massage. The kids and I had an amazing time at a trampoline park, and I jumped with them. That was so much fun. You deserve that massage, 100%. Oh my gosh. - I will agree to that one. I literally was at the dentist yesterday, 'cause I'm trying to get all my appointments in before I'm like. - Yeah. - And plus I got a lot of cavities when I was pregnant in the past. And so I was literally in the chair and the hygienist goes, is your baby moving? And I was like, yeah, she can literally see my belly going all over the place. - That's hilarious. - That's how active this dude is. - Yeah. - And even when we've gotten different ultrasounds done, the text have always talked about how active our baby is. - Yeah, she's like, this is the mode. And she was like, a grandma. She was a grandma, and she was like, I've done this for a really long time, and it's been a while since I've seen a baby that active. So maybe my predictions of this baby being chill are, maybe incorrect. - Might have a very hyper child on our hands. - That would be great to you, honestly. We can handle it. We have two toddlers and a hyper dog like. - We got this. - He's gonna fit in just great. - Well, everybody, thank you again for tuning in to another episode of Unplanned. If you've been here since the beginning, oh my gosh. Thank you, like seriously, thank you so much for listening each and every week. We're gonna do our best to have really incredible guest interviews coming up while we're off the grid and just like taking care of our baby and getting used to being parents of not two, but three boys. So we appreciate your patience with these solo episodes coming out. But yeah, I mean, as always, let us know which guests you've really enjoyed us having on and which guests you'd like to see on the pod and we'll do our best to reach out to them, and have them. Yeah, who do you wanna have on heart? - I have Arthur Brooks again. - Yeah, that'd be fun. - He's writing a new book. - Yes. - And I wanna talk about love. - That would be fun. I would love that. - With his wife. - With his wife? - Arthur Brooks and Esther, I'm putting that one out there. - Put it out there. - I love it. - Send that through the team. - I like it. I like it. That's a good idea. - Yeah. - Well, maybe we'll have Arthur Brooks back on again. - Yeah, finding love and staying in love. Shout out. - Yeah, that's sweet. Well, thank you again, and we'll see you guys next time. - Maybe we'll have a baby next time. - Maybe next time we'll have a baby. Next time you'll see us, we'll have a baby. That's crazy to think about. - Woo! - All right. - We're ready. - Peace, thank you guys.
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The host promotes Quince as a high-quality, ethically sourced brand offering affordable premium fabrics like 100% Mongolian cashmere and organic silk cotton at 50–80% less than competitors.
Quince’s direct manufacturing model eliminates middlemen, allowing customers to access premium products without brand markup, and the brand is highlighted as a favorite for layering and seasonal clothing.
The host shares personal experiences using Quince products, including swim trunks and khaki shorts, emphasizing their quality and versatility across seasons.
A fun discussion about a kitchen mishap involving tilapia and a playful debate over whether someone "gave up" on eating a dish leads to reflections on boundaries, boundaries in relationships, and the role of food in emotional connection.
The episode highlights a shift in mindset toward birth preparation, with the host emphasizing a goal of having fun and positive experiences, not just medical success.
Abby launches a makeup brand, Bizwell Beauty, which sold out quickly and is built on a full product development process, including chemistry testing, extensive paperwork, and a strong vision for authenticity.
The hosts discuss logistical preparations for a new baby, including family support, home organization, car upgrades, and new routines, while reflecting on parenting, sibling dynamics, and emotional readiness.
Sponsored content from brands like Unreal Snacks, BetterHealth, and Place is integrated, with emphasis on wellness, mental health, and practical parenting solutions.
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The episode blends personal storytelling with product promotion and parenting reflections. The host highlights Quince as a trusted source for high-quality, affordable, ethically made clothing, sharing personal experiences with their products and praising the brand’s direct-to-consumer model. A lighthearted yet insightful conversation about a tilapia incident explores boundaries, emotional needs, and communication in relationships.
The hosts also reflect on their upcoming birth, emphasizing a joyful, low-pressure approach to labor and parenting, contrasting with medicalized expectations. Abby launches her own makeup brand, Bizwell Beauty, which sold out due to a strong vision and rigorous development process, underscoring the challenges and rewards of launching a new venture. The episode then transitions into practical parenting planning, covering logistics like car upgrades, home organization, sibling transitions, and new routines.
Themes of self-care, emotional connection, and community are woven throughout, with guest mentions of mental health support and parenting resources. The narrative balances humor, vulnerability, and preparedness, offering a relatable, heartfelt look at life before, during, and after a new baby arrives. Sponsored brands like Unreal Snacks, BetterHealth, and Place are seamlessly integrated to support wellness, mental health, and home life.
The overall tone is warm, authentic, and grounded in real-life experiences.
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Quince uses high-quality, ethical materials like 100% Mongolian cashmere and organic silk cotton wool. Their pricing is 50 to 80% lower than similar brands because they work directly with ethical factories, cutting out middlemen and focusing on quality over brand markup.
Yes, Quince products are available online at Quince.com and through the Quince app. The app offers exclusive deals, and customers in Canada and the UK get free shipping and 365-day returns.
Abby launched a makeup brand called Bizwell Beauty. It’s unique because it’s entirely created in-house, with a focus on chemistry, product testing, and regulations—unlike typical white-label products.
The launch sold out rapidly because the product met a real need—easy, quick makeup for busy moms—while being affordable and made with a commitment to quality and user experience.
Currently, Bizwell Beauty is only available in the U.S. due to legal and regulatory requirements, including tax filings and language compliance (like French for Quebec). International shipping is not available yet.
It refers to a personal milestone where a parent prepares for childbirth, often involving physical and emotional readiness, and highlights the vulnerability and excitement of preparing for a new baby.
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