The episode blends personal storytelling with practical parenting advice, exploring the realities of preparing for a new baby. Hosts share intimate moments—like a humorous argument over food, a spontaneous pee-pee pants incident, and the emotional weight of childbirth—highlighting both vulnerability and joy. They discuss key logistical shifts, including organizing the home, upgrading to a family-friendly vehicle, and managing transitions for older children. A major highlight is the launch of Abby’s makeup brand, Biswell Beauty, which emphasizes meticulous product development, community engagement, and the emotional value of self-care for new parents. The hosts also reflect on the importance of support systems like doulas and mental health resources, emphasizing that parenting demands both physical and emotional resilience. Amid the chaos of family growth, the episode celebrates small wins—like a clean toy closet or a dog’s joyful swimming—while reinforcing themes of connection, humor, and self-compassion. The show underscores that parenting isn’t just about routine; it’s about learning to navigate change with grace, support, and authenticity. Mentions of wellness brands and mental health services further affirm the message that self-care is essential for sustainable family life.
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- I just came to the realization
that I have my first pants down appointment tomorrow.
- I'm offended you didn't ask for me to come home.
How do you feel about our boys starting school?
- I was listening to the Finding Nemo story with them today.
They were like, "First day of school."
And then he like comes back and he says, "I love you, dad."
And I thought about them having their little backpacks on.
- You're so sweet.
You're so sweet.
- My goal for this birth is just to have fun.
I wanna have fun.
Is that too much to ask?
- I love that for you.
- I literally can't believe I'm just sitting here
and pee-pee-peeing. - What's up, dudes?
Welcome back to "Unplanned."
You guys, we just had a very controversial event play out
right here in this room.
I asked Abby if she made tilapia for me in the air fryer.
And she was like, "No, I didn't, but you can have it."
And I was like, "Oh."
- Nope.
- What?
- Are you wrong?
- That's not what happened.
Okay, wait.
- Not what happened.
- I was wrong.
Take it away, what happened?
- You come in here.
No, I'm just kidding.
- You come in here and you said,
"Hey, are you gonna eat that tilapia
"that's in the air fryer?"
And I said, "Yeah, but if you want it, you can have it."
- That's right, that's right.
You did first say, "Yes, I'm eating this."
- Well, I said, "Yeah, I was planning on eating it."
- Okay.
- But you can have it if you want it.
- I feel like you said it,
I feel like the way you delivered it was more like,
"No, like, have it.
"I don't even want that anymore, that nasty piece of."
- No.
- Fish?
- No, and then--
- I feel like that's what you said.
- I did give you permission to eat it,
and then you did eat it,
and then I was like, "You actually ate that?"
- Guys, what do you do?
Comment down below if your spouse tells you
that you can eat something or do something,
and then they walk it back.
Who's the problem?
- I'm not even hungry, so it's fine.
I just was trying to be silly.
- I'm always very impressed at what you're,
what?
- What?
- Gotta be careful how I say this.
You never know, you could be clipped these days.
- At how much I eat?
- I'm impressed, yeah.
You're able to, like,
but I feel like--
- I get that a lot.
- But I feel like you're not able to eat as much right now
because of limited real estate.
- I know, I'm inhibited.
- In the belly area.
- I know, it's frustrating.
I used to eat so much more.
- Does that make you upset that you're not able,
like, do you want to taste that delicious flavor of food?
- You know what's actually funny about me?
- What?
- I don't have to enjoy the taste of it to eat it.
- Are you kidding me?
- We were just talking about that with our friends.
- I love eating for fun.
- No, I love eating too.
Like, I love eating foods that I like,
but also I don't have to like it and I'll just eat it.
- That quote from the Grinch,
"Am I just eating 'cause I'm bored?"
That's literally me all the time.
- You know what, I was just thinking about a quote
from the Grinch today.
- What, what was it?
- Look at that hack job.
- What made you think about that quote?
Oh my God.
I know exactly what you're talking about.
You just peed yourself.
Oh gosh, I'm so sorry.
Do you need, do you need anything?
- No, I just came to the realization
that I have my first pants down appointment tomorrow,
so I just needed to do something.
- I'm offended you didn't ask for me for help.
It's like a whistle.
You're like whistling when you laugh.
It's so hard.
- It's so, so bad.
I can't help that, by the way.
I literally cannot help that.
- You got that from your papa, didn't you?
- I know, and it makes me miss him now that it's so strong.
- Yeah.
- Oh, shout out to papa.
But his belly did kind of look like this,
so that's probably where it came from.
And that's why I loved him.
What were we talking about?
- We're talking about--
- Oh, I have a first pants down appointment.
I was supposed to take the kids with me.
- Yeah.
- And then I was like,
that's probably not gonna happen now.
So they're gonna hang out with my parents while you have,
I think you have a work call.
- Yeah.
- So then I'm like, well,
guess I'm just going by myself.
- How does that feel, having all of that--
- It's fine.
- Vulnerability?
- Oh, do you think I,
I don't care about that literally at all.
- Yeah, you know, if you're a woman,
you kind of have to get over that really quick.
- Really fast, yeah.
- Especially when it comes to birthing a human.
- Totally.
- You know, like, I don't know.
I mean, that is intimidating to be like--
- Well, it's also a woman.
I feel like I would feel a little less comfortable
if it wasn't a woman.
- Oh, yeah, yeah.
- That's part of my criteria,
but other people don't have that criteria, and that's fine.
It's not like I've never seen a male doctor,
but it's been few and far between.
- I love that clip you sent me of the doctor,
the really chill doctor, the really chill male doctor.
- Oh, yeah.
- Ah, we should--
- We've been, okay, so we were instructed by our doula
to watch births, which I don't think Matt's watched
that many births, except for that one I sent him.
- Yeah, we've been instructed to watch positive births.
- Experiences.
- And experiences.
- Exactly, to think positively about everything.
- Yeah, but sometimes even the positive ones
don't feel so positive at times, if they're unmedicated.
- Oh, gosh.
- They're like, positive birth story,
and then it's like, oh, it's like.
And I'm like, mm, that's not positive.
That's not-- - Oh, yeah.
- I said my goal for this birth is just to have fun.
I wanna have fun.
Maybe-- - I literally can't believe
I'm just sitting here in pee-pee pants right now.
Is that okay?
- Oh, my gosh, I feel so bad.
- It's like, it's just a trickle.
- Okay, well, if you're okay with it, I'm okay with it.
- I mean, I'm not loving it.
- Okay, if you wanna go change, by all means.
- That sounds worse.
- That does sound worse?
- Going up the stairs.
I'm not gonna do it again.
- Be honest, would you be happy
if I installed one of those chair lifts
to go up and down the stairs?
- I think that would be a really good investment.
- Like that they have at hospitals and stuff?
- I think that would be a really good investment
for the next four weeks.
- And schools, schools have those.
If someone is in a wheelchair,
then they can take the little chair--
- Honestly, I feel like it would be a good investment
for a lot of reasons.
- Yeah.
- For a house to be ADA compliant, finally.
- Just for you.
- No, for anyone that comes to our house that has--
- Oh, that's true.
Yeah.
- Any type of handicap.
No, what I was saying is our doula told us
to watch positive births,
and I don't think Matt's watching it
except for the one that I sent you.
And the doctor was this male OB, he was so chill.
And the reason I sent it to you
'cause he was instructing the dad how to catch the baby.
- Yeah.
- And he's, I'm actually not gonna describe the video
'cause there is a little bit--
- Yeah, I think we,
our humor has gotten a bit more adult.
I mean, like there were some terms thrown around there
that were pretty, pretty--
- It's anatomy.
- Yeah, human anatomy terms.
- Yeah, but actually isn't the C word anatomy too?
- I think so, yeah.
- See, but that one doesn't feel like anatomy,
that feels like a bad word.
- It's just so, it's just a little taboo, you know?
Yeah.
But like a preface, it's not the C--
- A little taboo?
- Not the C, like not the C word C word.
- Are you talking, which C word are you talking about?
- Yeah, no, I was talking about the C word C word.
- You're talking about the C word C word?
- Yeah, is that, is that anatomy?
- That's not a--
- Is that an actual, that's an actual body part.
- But that's like, that's derogatory,
unless you're in the UK.
- You're still excited to catch the baby?
- I am, I am, yeah.
We decided, guys, we had--
- See, why does that feel like a pipe dream right now?
Like actually like going in, giving birth,
everything being like successful.
Like in my head, I'm like, it's gonna happen,
but I'm also like, can't picture it.
- Yeah, I truly think it's gonna be
the best birth experience ever.
- Oh, that's the type of energy.
- And my thought process is based in science
because my mom told me that every time she gave birth,
it got easier.
- That's scientific.
- Yep, science.
But there's truth to that.
- Were you and your mom were talking about it?
That's sweet.
- I mean, my whole life, she was always like,
oh, the first was awful, I thought I was gonna die.
And then she's like, and then by the third,
it was like pop out, like so easy.
- Really?
- Yeah, I always knew that.
- Did you guys talk about it recently
when they were in town?
- I feel like she's talked about it with you.
And Abigail and different pregnant women.
- Has your dad ever sat you down and been like--
- You know how it is in my family.
We tell the same story over and over and over.
- Every family does that.
- Every family, yeah.
But I feel like it's extra worse in my family.
- They do have their stories.
- Yeah, it's okay, I do too.
- But I like that, I repeat myself like crazy.
- True.
- Like I literally repeat people,
I want people to be like,
hey, by the way, you've told me this before
and not even just one time.
Like you've told me so many times.
But then I say, that's how you know I'm not lying.
- I feel like for everyone that's listened
to our show since the beginning,
they've probably heard us say the same thing
more than once before as well.
- I repeat myself on the podcast a million times.
And Addy's like, you already said that.
And I'm like, really?
- Sorry, please forgive us.
- I just like to hear myself talk, apparently.
I mean, who else would have,
why else would I have two podcasts a week?
Hours of footage of just me running my voice.
I can't even listen to my own voice.
So I don't know how people are doing it, but I applaud them.
- I personally like your voice.
I think it's unique.
I think it's cute.
- Thank you.
- I think it's lovely. - Thank you.
- And it was something that made me like you more.
- Really?
- Yeah. - That's sweet.
- 'Cause I think it's sweet.
It's really sweet.
- Thank you very much.
- Okay, talk to me about something.
For anybody that isn't aware,
Abby just launched a makeup company called Biswell Beauty.
- See, even you just saying makeup company makes me.
- Really?
Does that have to sound that?
- You can just say launched Biswell Beauty Essential Mascara.
- Ah, okay. - One step at a time.
- Why did it make you so nervous there?
Like, why did it freak you out?
- I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm not a company.
- I'm not a company.
just that word is big but yeah we did well i'm very proud of you because for anybody that didn't
know it sold out it like it it completely sold out everybody was buying this stuff um it it's
kind of hard like with this new this new company that we i mean we've never done something like
this before go with the word company again okay with this new product we've never done something
like this and knowing how much to make and and like plan for demand is is something that i guess
like every business does uh but we're just new to it and so so what's crazy is that we have had
i mean just being in the space that we are we've had like a lot of brands and companies like legit
companies asked to do some type of partnership where like it's like their company but then they
help you like
somewhat design and tweak your own product with them obviously there's limitations there yeah um
and every single time we've been presented with that opportunity it's always just been like no
because we had this vision for like what this for what our like for what our mascara could be
and also i was like if when i do something i want it to be like fully us fully our own no this is
literally no shade to anyone that does the other option i love partnerships and i
purchased
them and i'm i support them and i like i'm excited about them that just wasn't what we wanted to do
like that wasn't the vision for what we had but after doing that i'm like man there's a lot of
perks because they can project inventory needs quite a bit better um they can handle a lot of
the things website wise shipping wise legality wise everything they could handle a lot of the
things they could handle that yeah but like us doing that internally was really crazy and um also made it
extremely rewarding yeah i'm i'm really really proud i don't think let me like let me just give
you a little bit of like we have them because obviously you know you've been a part of this
since the very beginning but like it wasn't like we just like i don't know i used a mascara and i
was like this is great put my name on it it was like we literally it's chemistry yeah and i was like
i've learned so much from doing this like it's literally like a chemist is like creating this
formula with us to be the perfect formula for like what i like love in a mascara and to fix all the
problems with the existing mascaras that i really liked but just weren't like you know like right
there and um so like it's literally chemistry we're working with a lab like and then it's just
there's so many steps to it yeah and there's so many regulations and tests
and it's wild it takes a long time look at this paperwork goodness addy printed this all off for
the launch party oh it's 75 pages wait sorry what is all this paperwork so this right here is the
full service finished product specification that we did with the lab this is one product this is
one and this is everything that went into that one product 75 pages yes that's ridiculous and
like even just like doing that like from the
beginning it's just it's it's been so cool to learn everything and it's something that i was
like you know you say things you're like oh it'd be so cool if i did this but like in the back of
your head you're like well if that happens you know that's probably not gonna actually happen
it happened and now it's like in people's hands and it's so cool yeah that like they're loving
the product too as much as i am and i obviously feel like there's a lot of things that we still
need to work out we're working on other things that have also been in the works long before
this launch even happened um but now that the launch happened and it was so successful it makes
these other existing uh yeah i guess i can say other existing products and projects like all
that more exciting yeah because it's like people are wanting it and so that that like people it's
really just fueled by like my own love of mascara but then also like this community and like wanting
to meet a need and like i feel like a lot of us moms like if makeup is gonna take
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your lashes maybe do some lipstick whatever like you don't have 30 minutes so that's what i love
about everything you've got in the works and we just put in a reorder for more mascara and then
it has to go through testing and there's all these things that you can do to get your makeup done
this thing is like there's all these processes that it has to go to but there's a due process
rules and regulations rules and regulations this is this is like legit stuff we're not just
like white like i i feel like the most common thing that i'll hear about when it comes to
creators launching companies is oh they're just finding something off of alibaba and and like
white labeling like white labeling it that's not at all what's happening here like there's
a lot going into making yeah that would be kind of crazy after waiting seven years to ever sell
your own product and then yeah that's what we do it's like that wasn't yeah but um well i do want to
touch on something really quick though because it's like obviously i'm the first to leave the
house with no makeup some days and i think there's nothing wrong with that and i think it's really
healthy and good and like sometimes it's just not the number one priority but for those days that i
do get it in which i wear makeup most days of the week i just feel like a different type of
confidence i feel like a different type of just femininity identity like i just feel more ready
to take on my day it's and i think moms and other women know what i mean like it's not like oh i
need this to leave but sometimes it's just like that little piece of identity that you're getting
back that little piece of confidence that you're just like ah okay like it's just especially in a
season where like you're really not prioritizing yourself like being a mom to babies and toddlers
and i can't speak for the future stages but in general like being a mom is like one of the most
selfless things you can do and so it's just one little piece to like show yourself some love
show yourself some like femininity and confidence and so yeah i'm really excited about everything
that is working coming in advance i don't even know i can say i feel like so many times with
the mascara i was like trying to talk about it and it just kept getting edited out so i'm like
what am i going to say that's going to be not okay we have more calls every single day about it and
more testing and i you're you're a full-on mom i'm looking at you right now and i really need to
test the product on you honestly is that okay if i do that's okay yeah dude i've actually told you
that i was like you might as well show people what this stuff could do on my lashes so yeah
the thing about your lashes is like i'm a big huge fan of curling my lashes you certainly need to
curl your lashes you need to they're straight out you're telling me you're gonna put mascara on me
and curl my lashes yeah i think i think it's what it's gonna take i you know what i'm in anything
for you babe okay yeah well guys uh
if you have not been to biswell-beauty.com and checked out the website it looks so good
the product images of abby look so so good i think she looks adorable in them and not only that but
even though we did sell out you can actually if you want sign up to be notified when we
are back in stock and that way you can be the first to hear when like there's there's more
product available because i would suggest doing that too because um i just don't want you guys to
know that like we're just limited right now it's so frustrating because i'm like i'm right there
with you guys i'm frustrated and i feel bad oh my gosh there's been so happy have you seen all the
comments from people that are in like australia the united kingdom canada other countries that's
like the most common countries i've seen people say that weren't able to buy it but yeah it's
only available in the united states right now just because there's so many legal things we have to do
so much paperwork and like filings we have to do for tax purposes um that we're we're focusing on
the u.s.
sure that like we do all that legal descendants.
to them just like like i think if you want to set you could probably if we want to we could send as
a gift i did a couple okay yeah we could send a gift to someone that's gonna make sure i didn't
break the law oh no you're you're allowed to legally gift someone in another country perfect
but like entering into commerce in you know a different country yeah yeah that brings on a
whole different set of rules and regulations like i didn't know this you guys in canada i was like
why can't we sell in canada in canada you have to have everything like in french okay because of
montreal quebec people like a lot of people their first language learn french yeah most people and
those are not most people but a lot of people in montreal and quebec speak french so then we have
to have everything in french for those people that is their first language how do you say biswell in
french biswell that is not a french word i'll tell you that anyway so if that's you and you're not
you're like in a different country listening to the show or watching the videos we're so sorry
we will get to you eventually um we just want to make sure that we do this all correctly
gotta do this above bar yeah brow i don't know i should not say phrases yeah we already uh
because of how everyone i didn't pass the bar you didn't pass the bar what
oh yeah we're not yeah we're not lawyers so we're uh we're making sure that we um talk to people that
that and and can tell us what to do have you been talking to lawyers no see that's the problem
either frick so above board it's not brow it's not bar it's board above board also i think we
do acknowledge like abby is so ready for maternity leave right now her legs are propped up on me i'm
on maternity leave you're on maternity leave right now just with a lot of lights and cameras
with a lot of lights and cameras um you know
this uh this baby's coming very soon i think by the time you guys watch this episode the baby
could be here wait really which is actually yeah i mean especially especially if the baby comes early
which i think is more likely than ever abby was just feeling um um um what's it called cramps so
i've been getting braxton hicks like i know those just extremely extremely mild ones how would you
describe a braxton hick to someone that's never experienced a braxton literally just feels like
your tummy tightening
and that probably can't doesn't feel too good does it it doesn't hurt it's just like a intensity
of pressure yeah the thing that i feel like it's kind of hurts is like if you're having that and
then the baby starts kicking then that's when it's like the craziest thing that i've seen you
experience is already having contractions they've never been like timed that much apart i saw your
face like a spark right there but i've never seen them like close apart at least recently
but i just like feeling your belly when you have a contraction holy cow like it is such a
freaking muscle just going to work yes yes that's exactly what it is it is a muscle yes yeah and i
think i actually saw something recently or maybe it was our doula no i think it was our doula okay
she was like people get intensity and pain when it comes to birth and like contractions confused
like intensity doesn't necessarily mean pain yeah and i mean i was like that's interesting
because i don't remember it feeling good but it is true like it's really intense
but i guess not necessarily painful at least especially early on in labor this isn't labor
this isn't real labor it's just like i get a little crampy get a little brexton hickey why
did we wait till the fourth pregnancy to hire a doula i don't know because i feel like this is
the smartest thing we've ever done really okay because we were going back and forth on that one
i think it's so smart yeah i think it's a good idea because that's like that's all they do and
we've you know been so fortunate to have good doctors that especially like in crisis with the
first pregnancy you know abby's doctor just like jumped into action and just knew what to do
um when when she you know experienced our son getting stuck in the birth canal like doctors
are amazing but something that i've noticed from now having a doula work with us is the doula
has like all the bedside manner and then some yeah that's true we didn't necessarily always
have that before yeah that's true we didn't necessarily always have that before yeah that's
true they just know how to like answer any questions we might have and not make us feel
rushed not especially not make you feel rushed because you know doctors they're they're you know
delivering babies and also sometimes your own doctor isn't the one delivering it you're just
now meeting the nurse it's really nice to have i'm assuming it's going to be really nice to have
a familiar face yeah that is extremely friendly yeah and also like so much of like our labor
before was like just me and you in the room and and with the doula now we've had more time with
this doula just in like one prep course than coming over tomorrow than we ever had like
combined i would say for both pregnancies before with with our your first doctor that's true now
i you know obviously obviously the the new doctor that you have now we you know we we've spent a lot
of time with her because of miscarriage and all sorts of you know things that have come with that
but if it weren't for that delivery that you had last year i feel
like just we just like the appointments with her just very very quick it's like yeah five minutes
here 10 minutes there um so it's nice that the doula can like really hang out with us and we can
get to know her that's true and then also i feel like she makes me less afraid to speak up about
things like i'm not even saying like i trust my doctor's judgment and i like i want to know what
their opinion is but just like i feel more confident to have like an actual birth plan
because someone else is gonna say it yeah because it's like for us we felt kind of like bad like i
don't want to bother them or like yeah like saying like oh you want to catch the baby or we want to
do x y or z yeah put our placenta in a cooler please it's almost like it's almost like the
doula it's like the doula is there more for your feelings and the doctor is there more for
your health that's great right i love i love someone there for both doctor's job let's make
sure everyone like lives and doesn't have any serious injuries and do well i think the doctor
is also just there to to be like really conservative with risk yeah
oh yeah a hundred percent and that's why you know that's why sometimes doctors will not recommend a
v-back because they they just are very um weary of taking on risk yeah but yeah i like that that
the doula will then look at the risk and say okay well there's a one percent chance for you yeah or
it's a two percent chance of this thing happening so i think that's cool i'm glad that you that
your friend who had a doula recommended her to you shout out and then got a shout out
who everybody's actually gonna go on always here she is guys abby's gonna do like a a brief
maternity leave from both podcasts we've been recording a bunch with some very exciting guests
so we're excited for you guys to listen to those um but on always here yeah we're gonna have like
a friend take over where her friends come on especially the notorious val that everyone's
been asking me about because i guess you guys talk about val a lot i know i keep i was really
hesitant to actually so they offered they're like we're gonna come and then we'll we'll take care of
everything like including your work which is super sweet and i was just like ha ha ha and then like
they were like they kept bringing it up they're like no we're serious yeah and i was like well
i mean if you're serious then i was just still hesitant though because i'm always like i chose to
take on this is my shenanigan like i don't want to reel other people into my shenanigans yeah and all
that comes with obviously posting your life on the internet like i was like i don't want a real i don't
want to my friends are not like public figures they certainly could be yeah i'd follow that i
would love it they're great they were great i think they should be yeah but well actually i
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what it is i'm like yeah but they are going to be i trust that everyone will be kind to them
and they're awesome so they should be they they have no reason to not be
but it'll be fun i'm excited to listen to it oh my gosh that'll be so weird i know
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handle the logistics of adjusting from two boys to three boys yes because i think this is a good
plan okay so shout out grandma and grandpa abby's parents are going to have our two boys that are
already here over at their house for a week while we adjust just for bedtime oh just like for
overnight yeah just overnight okay so our boys are at our actually didn't even know that i just
thought they were there they're gone i thought they were having a staycation well we want them
to at least meet their brother and see mom and dad make sure everything's okay but then they'll
spend the night at their house okay so yeah our boys are spending the night at grandma and
grandpa's aka honey and ga and uh that's gonna allow us to like fully support each other and
like bond with new baby newborn stage because i feel like the first week is the hardest right the
first week is like obviously the most demanding but also i think it's really important that like
we both in the night like have each other's support yeah especially like for me like
recovering from birth and then like just learning how to breastfeed and then also like both of us
just like bonding with this baby like yeah
like obviously our kids know that we love them so much and like we have all this history but
this baby is like i'm new to this world like who do i who can i who who's my mom and dad like all
these things so that's like the focus of our week one is like everyone just like kind of letting the
dust settle like totally brothers meet baby brother and i think i honestly think our boys
are gonna adjust really well i hope this isn't naive of me but like they're very
flexible and also just very excited to have a baby brother but also they're
very independent and so i think like at worst our boys are going to just be disinterested
in the baby how do you feel about our boys starting school because that's happening at
the same exact time they're also just gonna go to like a half day preschool just a few days of the
week just like in someone's home are you are you happy or sad about that
so sad being you want to know why why it's because i was listening to the finding nemo story with them
today in the car and they were like first day of school it's like at the end of the movie
marlin and nemo and then he like swims off and then he like comes back and he says
i love you dad and then swims back to school
and then i thought you're so sweet you're so sweet
and i thought about them having their little backpacks on walking into school
that i think we should unenroll them actually i think that's a bad plan
my favorite was last night our kids just running around no clothes on whatsoever
running into each other and laughing they probably did that like 75 times are you crying too
oh no actually i mean it got me you're like
like that struck me he comes back and says love you dad then goes back off to school like they're
just so fun i'm like i know it'll be good for them to like learn but gosh why you gotta go
you know and then i was like very sure that we could never send them to full day five days of
the week that's a big adjustment never gonna happen that's a very big adjustment never gonna
they can't go to high school that's never gonna happen um but i think it will be
good and this is all starting around the same time that we're gonna have a baby probably
so i think they're gonna be very well suited for the transition in the sense of like
there's a couple things changing at the same time so then everything like
we're all adjusting to new routines yeah so it's not just like oh all of a sudden baby
no mom can't go out in the morning and have a fun activity with us every single day
like it's like they already have their own things and they're very very excited about school they
talk about it all the time and they're like oh my god i'm so excited about school i'm so excited about
all the time um one of them's just going to like a home preschool and the other one's going to a
pre-school so they of course bring their backpacks with them everywhere especially when we travel
that's like their favorite thing is to put toys inside their backpack for the trip so they're
gonna have a lot of things to look forward to at the same transition it's not even related to the
baby but that's week one and then i'm assuming that by week two let's just say successful v-back
i'm feeling better after a week obviously still
heavily postpartum but me and the baby are getting a little bit more experience with the breastfeeding
thing breastfeeding is going well you obviously can't feed the baby in the night and then if you
do feed him a bottle i would still need a pump so then i will then switch to taking over baby mode
in the nights and you take over toddler mode in the nights yeah which you would think that our
toddlers have very little requirements in the nights that would be that would be incorrect
a lot of requirements they've been asking me quite often now to sleep in the room with them yeah like
i think and i'm afraid you actually might do it i think they know like that that could be on the
horizon for us are you gonna do it do you want like what what do you think do you want me to or
would you rather me sleep in the room with you and our newborn i honestly kind of like the idea
of you sleeping with the toddlers because then i'm not waking up to the monitor yeah you're not
getting woken up by our kids to do that i'm not waking up to the monitor i'm not waking up to the
kids to yeah like i only have one kid to wake me up and if you're like up for two hours in the night
breastfeeding then if our kids wake up at 6 30 you could sleep when our baby sleeps yeah 8 30 i think
that's a good setup yeah we're gonna have to navigate that one as it comes but in that mode
you're on toddler duty i'm on baby duty obviously if i need to you're gonna be stepping in with a
baby too during the day and yeah like i'll be obviously not neglecting our toddlers i feel like
you gotta gotta cross all your bases on the internet but um but that'll be like more how we
navigate like i'm the primary contact for baby your primary contact for griffin and augie you're
probably wondering matt and abby what's happening with this whole like fitting five people in a
vehicle how are you gonna don't you need a new car yeah i had two vehicles do you want to fill
everybody in on what happened with this whole like fitting five people in a vehicle how are you
going to deal with the mom car situation i got my mom car abby got her mom car it's official we have
it i forced you into a mom car because i was like there's no way we're fitting three mega car seats
in the back comfortably yeah that's true and then you upgraded me to a very nice mom car and it's
been really nice it's been really great yeah so abby was like right now it feels so frivolous
because we literally have two kids yeah but i know we're going to be glad that we're going to be
glad we have the extra space i'm kind of a a um an electric vehicle like guy i guess i guess i just
love electric vehicles and then abby's like i want a vehicle that has three rows and so there's not a
lot on the market right now yeah those there's not a lot that have there's actually there's actually
only one electric vehicle on the market that's a family vehicle that has captain seats right am i
incorrect was it did the kia the kia ev9 had captain seats but then the back row was like
super small no trunk and there was no trunk space so then we ended up we ended up going for the
escalade yeah and so that's that's what we ended up with it's super super nice and like i just know
that we're gonna get a lot of use out of it yeah and our we're already planning road trips in it
yeah for once baby comes i feel really safe driving it and um yeah it feels
really it feels real now i think once we install the baby's car seat in there we have three big
car seats when it's going to be like oh wow this is real and um yeah it's very exciting yeah um
three kids is a logistical jump for sure it is it is before we even have three like i'm just
the logistics are are it's a jump for sure two is like pretty compact when you really think about it
a family of four i wonder who the kids are going to take after because i
feel like yeah our second born takes after me mostly i feel like i feel like everything that
he does my mom would be like oh used to do that when you were a kid matt yes and then our first
born takes after abby so i'm curious who the the next new baby boy is going to take after probably
me you think you yeah i think it's why you no i'm just kidding i have no idea i think he's going to
be a blend yeah i i just i don't know which one of us is more chill because i feel like this baby's
going to be chill and that might just be wishful thinking it depends on what it is i feel like
you're very laid back for a mom really yeah oh yeah yeah you definitely are okay i mean unfortunately
neither one of us are chill well here's the thing no i think i think you're chill because a chill mom
would have never allowed our kids to have a stockpile of toys in the in the closet for like
what was that like that stressed me out mega that was that was going on for like 12 months if you guys
ever seen like our cleaning videos on tiktok um i always would put a little video in of our toy
closet and it looked bad you guys it was just a freaking stockpile of toys all you know all
jumbled up together and kids when they come to our house head straight for it and abby has such
sweet friends um at um addy who's actually in the room right now our sister-in-law addy
she threw abby a surprise uh party for her for her mascara company and so
And so then when everybody was over for the mascara launch
and celebrating Abby,
They were like, wait a minute.
What if we all together joined in and like just in like one hour or whatever, we'll clean
this launch party turned into a clubhouse overhaul.
How long did that take you and all your friends to clean the toy closet?
It was less than two hours.
Oh, wow.
OK, so it did.
So, yeah, that still was like a while.
But you had how many women working together?
Five.
Five women spent an hour and 45 minutes on this toy closet.
Yeah, probably.
And now it looks so good.
It does.
It's so like that night after we like organized everything, like we donated a bunch of stuff,
like actually got to scrub the floor.
That was gross.
That was disgusting.
Yeah.
And we need to just put that out there.
Those hadn't been cleaned in a minute.
Yeah.
But should I even say like Kayla had to use a butter knife to get something off the floor.
Oh, gosh.
We don't know what it was.
But hey, now.
Biohazard.
Biohazard.
But now there's a section for weapons.
They have their lightsaber.
There's a weapons section.
A weapons section.
Big truck section.
Little truck section.
Action figure section.
Little action figure section.
Balls.
More balls.
Scooters.
Legos.
Legos.
Blocks.
Trains.
The train section is cool, too.
I love that every single bin they can take out, play with it, and then put it back.
And it's not all jumbled up together.
And they actually do.
They do.
You were so right about that, by the way.
Thank you.
Abby explaining this idea to me, which I thought was so silly, which is if you have all of
your kids' toys super organized, they'll get more play out of them.
And I think you're 100% right.
Yes.
Because now they're like, ah, we played with our blocks.
OK, time to put them away.
And then we, you know.
They're like, what are we going to play with next?
It's like they're making a conscious decision.
Exactly.
Rather than just like tripping on a toy and being like, oh, I'll play with that.
And if you're a parent that's like.
But where's all the other ones?
If you're like a parent, you're like, yeah, right.
How do you get your kids to pick up your blocks?
Here's how you do it.
You say whoever picks up their blocks first gets to be the first to have their Popsicle.
And then once one kid has Popsicle.
You bribe them.
Once one kid has a Popsicle, then the other kid's like, oh, I want one too.
Yeah.
You know, that's one of those things that before you're a parent, you're like, I'm not
going to bribe or negotiate with a two-year-old.
Yeah, you'd have to.
And then you have a two-year-old and you're like, this is the only leverage I have.
Exactly.
We've organized a lot of areas of our house because I feel like the thing that was stressing
me out more.
Was like making sure that our older kids were like Uber organized before baby comes
because I know that they're, I'm not going to be able to focus on that once he's here.
So I want to make sure everything's in place for them and then I'll be fully focusing on
baby.
And then I think also just like third baby realizing they really don't need much in place.
Like that's like not the priority.
And especially with having like extra help with the older boys, I want to make sure that's
like seamless for whoever's stepping in and like giving extra help.
Like my parents watching them for that time.
Um, yeah, we officially went through all their clothes and like going through all the toys,
went through the mudroom, like got rid of the shoes that don't fit and like everything
is like kind of finding its place.
We still have to do all the baby stuff.
Yeah.
The house is looking really good.
It's so much more for real.
Yeah.
Nesting has begun.
It's looking more organized, looking tidy.
Um, I think getting rid of things too is so nice.
Like you guys, we thank goodness have this system in our neighborhood where like every
like month or so they have bulk trash pickup and I had all this junk that was just like
piling up in our, in the back corner of our house.
And I set like a bunch of it out.
One man's junk is another man's treasure.
That's right.
And so, and so that's what I did.
I actually put out some things that like I felt bad about throwing away.
So I was like, I need to donate these.
But then I realized, wait a second, people will even drive around.
And, and like pick up, you know, if it's a rug or if it's a fence or, you know, what,
whatever it may be, um, to, to like either take it for themselves or get it for free
and resell it.
So I put out like a dog fence that we had to help like teach our dog to go poop on a
certain corner of our backyard.
And now she does it without the fence.
So I took the fence away, put that fence out for bulk trash pickup.
And this one came and took it before the bulk trash pickup came.
So I was very thankful for that.
I was like, Hey, someone got it for free.
You know, another man's trash is another man's driver treasure.
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called the cops on us.
Oh, how do you feel about that?
How do you feel about that?
I feel like that wasn't very neighborly.
Yeah, I know.
I think, you know, here's the thing.
So let me just say, you were out of town.
Let me take this over.
Okay.
I was out of town and the neighbors called the cops on Abby.
No, not on me.
They called it on pretzel.
They called it on her dog, which here's the thing.
If you were genuinely concerned about our dog, appreciate that.
Yeah.
Um, the only problem is that you are.
You're our neighbor.
Yeah.
And if you were genuinely concerned, why don't you just knock on the door?
Hey, I just want to make sure, like your dog's been outside as.
Are they okay?
Yeah.
And then what would you say if, and I'd say, oh, she's a water dog.
She literally begs and rings her bell all day long to go outside and get in our pool.
And she just swims, laughs.
She's part otter.
Yeah.
She's basically part otter.
So, and so during the launch party, everything's happening on the same day.
Of course, um, she's outside swimming, but since people were inside, she kept seeing
people coming.
And so every once in a while, she'd be like barking to come inside, just get right back
in the pool and start swimming laps.
It was not like a constant thing, but, um, yeah, I, my opinion is that this neighbor
couldn't file for a noise thing cause it was 6:30 PM and so they just wanted to, um, just
go ahead and send the cops over.
So actually everyone kept commenting on how she's.
She's just swimming laps and loves the pool.
Uh, the cop was literally like so apologetic though.
They were like, I'm so sorry.
Like clearly your dog, cause, cause pretzel loves anyone.
She's a golden retriever.
She runs and she's like sopping wet and like so excited.
And he, she was already inside at this point too, like the time that he came and he was
like, I'm so sorry.
He said, but you just made my day by having such a happy, joyful dog to like greet.
And he was like such a nice cop, but yeah, dang it.
I think we need to send those neighbors some donuts or something.
I know maybe they're going through something, you know, maybe, uh, maybe they wish they
had a dog and, and they don't have one.
I don't think they want to.
I don't think they like dogs at all.
That's my.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's my thing.
Interesting.
Interesting.
Yeah.
That would be the word for interesting.
Interesting.
Anyway.
Um, maybe we should invite them over for a swim.
Speaking of pretzel, speaking of our dog pretzel, you guys submitted some questions for us on
Instagram.
And I wanted to address a couple of these because we love just getting to talk with
you and chat with you and want to know what's on your mind.
So the first of these questions is, uh, how is life going with Ms. Pretzel and how old
is she now?
How old is she?
Like nine or 10 months?
Yeah.
She's getting close to being a year old.
She's 10 months.
She's 10 months old.
Cause she was born in September of 2025.
She's so cute.
She's like genuinely, like we look at her and we're like, she's so beautiful.
I just love golden retrievers too.
And she plays so well with the boys too.
Yeah.
Like it, it cracks me up whenever, if I'm not being the bad guy, when it comes to playing
with the boys, like my, my sons love it when I'm, our boys love it when I pretend to be
a bad guy.
Pretzel is the bad guy.
So they're like, ah, it's the bad guy.
We just have to remind them that they can't actually hit pretzel with a lightsaber.
They just, you know, we can pretend, you know, we can pretend that she is a, a, a dog.
A living creature.
We have to be kind.
We can't hit her with a lightsaber.
Okay.
That's not okay.
So.
Yeah.
I think because pretzel never like entered into our family when we already had toddlers.
She's like, she knows no different.
So she's just like, she's so chill with that stuff.
She's definitely still a puppy.
Oh yeah.
Definitely very eager when guests come over very, maybe kind of think she's a cat.
Yeah.
She does know how to go on walks now.
She does know how to jump onto our dining table.
We found out.
She did jump on our dining table.
the other day, which she did not get trained to do that in training camp.
she got trained not to do that and she is broken that's what one of our kids tells her he says
pretzel don't forget your training yeah he says twaining don't forget your twaining um so yeah
she's she's naughty for sure she's gorgeous she's fun she's an amazing swimmer and um the there's
something that happens if you have a dog after you have kids is that you don't she'll never be
she was never in the kid position in our hearts if that makes sense yeah so she's just she's fully
in the pet position yeah and we love her yeah i think the funniest thing is just how much energy
she has and how long she can swim she's an athlete like she's she's tried i swear guys she's part
otter because she legitimately i got to see her try to like dive down in the pool like now it's
not even fast it's not even fun it's not even fun enough for her to just like swim back and
forth and get toys she wants to like freaking scuba dive and touch the bottom for that like
can dogs actually do that i don't know i don't think i have no idea but she's trying to push
the limits she literally loves maybe she needs to go on a dog show honestly like maybe she'd win
the whole thing no she would literally smell a hot dog and just run if there's a dog diving
competition i think pretz would win it i know don't tell our neighbors gosh oh my gosh next
question do you guys like living in arizona yes i would say ask me not in the month of
july don't ask me last week holy what was the weather last week like 110 every day if not more
no more than that it was offensive yeah so hot yeah so ridiculously hot yeah it's that heat will
bring a temper out of me seriously yeah i'm like get your car seats right now i know because you
know it doesn't cool off until the vehicle's moving yep and if you're not in the pool i just
don't like being outside when you're not in the pool is pretty
which is also great that our dog loves to swim if i have to say that too because
she literally wouldn't be able to walk most hours of the day without burning her paws
or but she like needs a lot of activity she's a high energy breed well i think that's why those
pet services the doggy treadmill companies exist because people literally need to walk their dog
on a treadmill why does that feel like wally maybe yeah yeah probably that makes sense
well people no longer walk their dogs they just have a mobile
treadmill service do you even like the movie wally because i think it kind of sucks to be honest
i do i like the sound then the songs in its soundtrack it's so boring i think it's i don't
think it's that great of a movie personally that's just my take i think you are a little overstimulated
i think i i would go coco or up i think those like oh yeah i agree i agree so much better
next question we have is where slash how long have you guys lived the longest we've actually
lived in arizona longer than any other state together no wait maybe that's wrong because
we were in missouri together 2017 18 19 2020 so i think we're tied now i think we're tied between
missouri and arizona crazy yeah we're about to hit longest state together in arizona i know we've
been here we've been here it's a great home base yeah it is a good home base yeah it's nice uh
living next to a major international airport because last year when we went to see usher for
abby's christmas present oh my gosh you should just say we went to london we went to london
and we were able to fly directly there because you know usher did just come to phoenix like a
month ago see that's why that would have been a little less travel yeah i wanted you to get
to be the first it wasn't because of usher it's because we wanted to go to london which was dope
it was really cool it was dope yeah i think we should take our kids next time we should and
notice we didn't go to phoenix next time we didn't go to phoenix next time we didn't go to
go see usher when he was in phoenix if we were really that mega of a fan how would we ever pass
that up you're right you're right you bring up a good point i think after seeing usher i was like
maybe i won't go to another
sorry it was just a little bit seeing him do his cherries demonstration live for anybody that
doesn't know usher goes around the whole stadium with cherries and lets women eat them from his
right there yeah and it goes on for a really a really really long time it's also extra funny
when it's like a couple and then the wife like asked permission from from her why do i not even
fully get it like i don't understand why it's so raunchy but i just it feels raunchy it's usher
feeding you cherries like how could like that supposed to symbolize something yeah i feel like
it's it's see you don't fully get it either we're confused i feel like it's the what's
going on the very brink of of like play you know no i that that part was that was a lot but then
also there's just a lot there's pole dancing yeah there's a whole nobody prepared us for that
sexy moment that lasts a really long time and and the whole reason i did this was because abby was
all excited to go to an usher concert in phoenix like three years ago and and i and i thought that
it was going to go to one together but nobody told us that there was going to be all of that but it
was i mean it was a great show they did a great job we should have assumed given his music the
dancer all the dancers were very talented they did roller roller skating on the stage yep um
some shadow shadow dancing um doing some very some bedroom scenes bedroom like positions we
were literally just like and everyone around us is like so into we're just like yes i get the
i felt so i never felt more like a prude in my life i just didn't know how to behave in that
environment you know what i mean yeah it was a great time hey we can't pretend that we're that
like naive though because i one of our favorite shows of all time is game of thrones that is like
you know totally different vibes totally different vibe yeah totally different vibes true different
vibes literally completely switch change the subject there that was way off um this next
question is from kate bush she's a singer and she's a singer and she's a singer and she's a
is the dad bod real wait i think she's my friend do you know this person i don't know i think i
went to college with her ah okay is the dad bod real i'm gonna say yes no i feel like it i feel
like it happens you know i think you look more attractive than ever well i think i do think i
look like more manly you don't have a soft midsection literally at all well thank you
you're chiseled but the thing that that i feel makes me feel better about myself is apparently
i think i've said this before you're much more attractive this way oh thank you but apparently
oh i thought that's what you're like sympathy weight is the thing like the your hormones as
the male change just like your wife's hormones change too even though you're not physically the
one growing the baby it's very common for men to like gain and lose weight along with their wives
so fun fact there yeah i didn't know that until not that long ago actually so of course yeah
yeah one next question we have is
would you ever move back to missouri i love missouri you know i actually felt the strong
urge to experience all four seasons again it is really fun to feel like you know the the weather
change and it's fall and it's just not so hot anymore and the leaves are changing cuddlers and
then especially spring too i don't think about that though necessarily when i see most of them
you don't i do i guess maybe the plants when i've flown back to missouri after being in arizona for
a long time especially if it's like may i'm just like
holy cow it is so it does look a lot greener i will say i feel like i really like visiting
because you get a taste of that but then like by day five you're like wait i haven't seen the sun
like it's just been gray yeah and that like you for i forget how much i take for granted the
sunshine here the sunshine just makes me so so happy so i think for now i would love to visit
which we need to do we haven't been back for a minute yeah we do we should go i would love to
take the kids back to the st louis zoo because
that zoo is so nice and it's completely free and i think they would really like going up in the arch
too you do that with them oh yeah i think you would be way too claustrophobic we've never even
been in the arch together i did it and i didn't want to do it again how have we never been in the
st louis arch together babe no it's messed up crazy maybe they would like it yeah i don't know
that i want to do it again but um you have to get in this really tiny elevator it's just i'm
but well maybe christmas time i think we should go back for christmas time yeah um but i think for
now it's not really our life is really here in arizona so yeah i agree but have so much fondness
for missouri how do you feel about us having weekly date nights again so much fun we started
doing that again uh based on couples therapy yeah they're like maybe get something in place
before baby where you like have a minute to like
regroup and obviously with breastfeeding baby's gonna be coming with us but we just started
early like get that structure in place and it's been so fun so we don't even do anything crazy
but it's just so fun yeah i uh that's the thing about being parents is that like you really
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we're about to obviously enter into a very diaper heavy season again but it's crazy how they
both aren't wearing diapers we're not changing diapers right now i know we did have a season
there where we were thrown away underwear left and right because potty training just
regressed with travel yeah when you travel we were in florida and it was it was hard
you know reminding um so many kids in that house he was having
so much fun he didn't want to stop and go potty man yeah but i think we're back to we're back
to not having any accidents which is in a 45 minute gym class though i'm leaving like at least
twice for them yeah you have to leave twice different times because actually of all of our
friends i'm the only one that has two potty trained kids no way isn't that crazy that is
crazy because i'm like why do i get called out way more than everybody else it feels like and
it's because different times yeah i'm like maybe you should just ask the other one if they need to
empty out because they probably could stand to go something about boys is that they never really
quite empty out i don't know if it's just my like ocd but it's so hard for me to like communicate
to them make sure that you're not like when we go to the bathroom they just aren't really aware
of germs the most and i try to like tell them every time let's not like touch the toilet let's
not like put our body on the toilet like you really don't ever want to touch that thing
and yeah somehow they always do so we're still working on that part of things um even like
drinking water out of a water fountain still working through the hey don't like put your mouth
actually on the fountain part you just want to take a long time as a person that subbed in
elementary schools just kids just put their mouth straight on the thing yeah they're just sucking
on that thing it's disgusting how old were the kids that were doing that elementary age like
like seven eight yeah eight year olds still put their mouth on the water fountain oh
gosh it's pretty nice so it looks like we're gonna have a lot more of that but yeah i'm scared for
cold and flu season with three kids oh goodness yeah anywho we could not be more excited for the
life changes that are about to happen in our life um it's it's gonna be it's gonna be you know so
busy there for a little bit but uh honestly though this past season has been so busy that like it'll
be a different way i guess but like i'm really looking forward to slowing down with a baby
yeah like that is they call it the newborn bubble like i'm really excited for that i already have
like the shows i want to watch postpartum i've never seen go more girls so i want to watch that
that feels like a cozy show i can watch while nursing um and i just i'm like at the point
where i'm just like i'm so excited and it's been a long time coming it's been such a long journey
and i think that makes this all feel so much more
like big and rewarding yeah 100 and like even just like the thought of seeing you like you with any
baby like i always say this because i feel like people probably would not guess it but you are so
good with babies and like it's so attractive to me when you have a baby and especially when it's our
baby but then also just like leaving the hospital like carrying you know they call it the hot dad
walk carrying the car seat like i'm just excited for all of that and um we just need to get some
stuff set up that i can do and i'm just like i'm so excited for all of that and um we just need to
think about it gotta set up the crib gotta wash the baby clothes we want to do a new breast pump
are we doing a new bassinet yeah we got a new one because i gave my other one to addy ah okay okay
cool so many babies are gonna be sleeping in that griffin augie brielle yeah new baby yes it's a good
bassinet that one was the uh mamaroo not mamaroo for mom's bassinet for mom's bassinet this time
we're trying i think it's a good bassinet i think it's a good bassinet i think it's a good bassinet
a halo bassinet i love it i couldn't take it back she's got another one coming so that ain't right
how has it been recovering from jet lag because you didn't really get a chance to recover weren't
you up for 27 hours straight after coming home from turkey i think it was i think it was closer
to 24 but yeah i was up for about an entire day flying from istanbul all the way back to
phoenix arizona wait a minute turkey a turkey a you're right
they changed the name guys did you know this turkey changed their name a couple years ago
let me know as someone who's just in turkey what did the turkens say is it turkens they're kind of
split is it turkens they can't be i don't think people call them turkens the turkishans i don't
think it's i don't think that's the term but everybody says something different like the
correct way to say it is turkey a i guess the turks turks turks turks that's cuter the the turks
um have always have always had like the a sound at the end
of the country's name but then um recently they decided let's have everybody say that or at least
english speakers say that oh so is that kind of like uh if we were to say instead of mexico
we're saying mexico exactly exactly oh i like that they're they're like no say it like we say
it yeah i like that yeah so i mean that's cool um that's kind of a power move when you think about it
um they were they i mean from from everybody that i talked to there they were pretty um amp that they
had beat the u.s in the world cup obviously like we're out of the world cup are they the ones that
booted us out no no the game that we played them in really didn't matter for either country but
um yeah no it's uh it's a beautiful country i took my little brother josh there for a hair
transplant and he was so excited he'd never been out of the country before and so it was just cool
getting to see him experience just for this trip and now he's got a new head of hair coming yes
which when i told him about
getting a hair transplant he had so many questions so i just knew that he would want and love getting
hair trans to a hair transplant too um and uh is that genetic i think it is it's just like there's
a genetic male pattern baldness is genetic
And a lot of people incorrectly think that it's all from the mom.
It's not.
It's actually both your parents that contribute to it.
Isn't the old wives tale that it's the mom's dad?
I think so.
I think that's the old wives tale, but that wives tale isn't true.
It's all your genes.
All the genes matter.
It's all the genes matter.
Yeah.
Well, it surprised me when you said that.
So they're moving follicles from the back of your head to the front of your head.
And you can't regrow follicles at the front, but the ones in the back can regrow.
Yes, exactly.
It's wild.
Except, okay, they're bringing the hair follicles from where you have a lot of densely populated
hairs to the spot on your head where you have no hair at all.
And so if you get too many hair transplants done, then you can end up in a situation where
you can't even, like your hairs don't regrow from where they re-harvest or they harvested
from.
So that's why you got to be careful not to get it done, you know, too much because it
stops working.
I actually don't even know.
I just know that I'll probably need to get another hair transplant at some point.
Because it's not a, it's not like a one and done, especially if you get it done when
you're younger on the younger side, it's probably, you're probably going to have recession at
some point later in life.
I'm not going to lie.
Like I felt so bad for him because my experience getting the transplant done.
You were struggling a little.
Yeah.
Like I, the day of the procedure, my, my head hurts so bad, but for Josh, he didn't have
that same reaction.
Like, I think it's just, everybody has a different reaction to.
Um, local anesthetic and pain medicine.
And so for me, like, he didn't really get that swollen.
Exactly.
That was the other thing too.
My head like really swelled up like a watermelon and his didn't like a donut.
Yeah.
So he just, he's tougher than me.
Slightly different though, because he had like scabs on his head.
Yeah.
You didn't really have scabs.
Not the most, not as much as he did.
He, he did get a bigger transplant done.
So, so you would have thought that it would have been a harder recovery.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
They did fully shave his head.
I didn't have to fully shave my head.
So I got the DHI technique done, which don't ask me what that stands for.
I completely forget, but he had an FUE transplant done where they make incisions in your head
for some reason.
Now we're getting niche.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Well, that's crazy.
Yeah.
You guys get to do any sightseeing?
I mean, I know, but I just want to hear you say it.
Totally.
I mean, we, we got to check out the Blue Mosque, which is literally older than the United States
and America.
It's a 410 year old mosque.
So beautiful.
So stunning.
It's right across from the highest Sophia mosque, which at one point was a cathedral
in the Eastern Orthodox church.
So that was really cool.
So many stray cats in Turkey that we got to like see and try to pet one actually tried
to bite me.
So I had to like jump back when the, when the cat got, you know, I guess what the Turks
told me was that the cat was like kind of maybe nervous around me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So because I had a petter, I did, but only after other people were petting the cat.
So I thought, Oh, everyone's petting the cat.
We're good.
And the cat was like, not you.
So my cat growing up would sleep with me, prefer choose to sleep with me and then bite
me in the morning.
So that's not very nice.
You never trust a cat.
Not nice.
Yeah.
You can't, you really can't.
Um, but there was that.
Oh, I also showed the video, babe, Josh and I got Turkish ice cream and they do this whole
little skit where they pretend to give you your ice cream.
And then they take it away from you and they, um, they have it like connected to this little
metal, uh, uh, rod.
And so they put it on top of the cone and then you go to take it and then they pull the
ice cream off and it's not even like on the cone and then they hand it to you, you grab
it, but then it's still the ice cream, um, is like connected to the cone at the top.
But then the cone you grab is just like a decoy cone and it slips through your hands.
So they just, they just mess with you.
Yes.
It's a whole thing.
That's some shenanigans.
Yeah.
It's pretty funny.
So they, they mess with Josh and I doing that.
Did you know it was going to happen or?
They did.
Uh, some people filled me in on the whole, you know, prank, but it, I mean, it's, it's
so funny.
That's funny.
Yeah.
I love that.
Yeah.
But overall it was long travel day.
Yeah.
Long travel day, getting there, um, getting back, but could not be happier for Josh.
He's just so excited to have that full head of hair.
I'm happy for him too.
Yeah.
I'm excited to see his results.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, obviously you guys had different types of like hair loss, so I feel like it's going
to be interesting.
Exactly.
Yeah.
It was really sweet.
We, did you get this on the YouTube video?
What?
Josh asking, you asked his boyfriend.
No.
Who asked his boyfriend?
Your dad asked his boyfriend, are you excited to see Josh with a full head of hair?
And he was like, I don't really like, he's really excited about it.
So I'm excited about it, but I don't really care.
Like he's so tall anyway.
No one sees the top of his head.
Like he just had a really sweet and cute response.
He did.
So that's just sweet.
I wish I caught that on video.
I actually didn't get that on video and I wasn't there for that.
Did you hear, were you there when that happened?
I think your parents told me.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
That's sweet.
I'm excited for him.
He's such a sweet guy and he deserves, he deserves to do something special for himself.
A hundred percent.
Everyone needs a little something to give him a little confidence boost.
And it's cool that he got to do it with you because otherwise he probably never would
have.
Yeah.
Gotten to do this.
So what a cool opportunity.
You guys get to do together.
I'm excited.
Yeah.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
We literally picked you up from the airport, me and the kids.
And then I was like, Hey, by the way, I'm leaving at 7:00 AM for a massage.
I felt bad about that, but that was all that was available and I really needed a massage.
Well, I'm glad that you went to the massage.
The kids and I had an amazing time at a trampoline park and I jumped with them.
That was so much fun.
You deserve that massage.
A hundred percent.
Oh my gosh.
I will.
I will agree to that one.
I was at the dentist yesterday cause I'm trying to get all my appointments like in before
I'm like.
Yeah.
And plus I got a lot of cavities when I was pregnant in the past.
And so I was literally in the chair and the hygienist goes, um, is your baby moving?
And I was like, yeah, she can literally see my belly going like all over the place.
That's hilarious.
You didn't tell me that.
That's how active this dude is.
Yeah.
And even when we've gotten different ultrasounds done, the techs have always talked about how
active our baby is.
Yeah.
She's like, this is the most, and she was like a grandma.
She was a grandma and she was like, I've done this for a really long time and I, it's been
a while since I've seen a baby that active.
So maybe my predictions of this baby being chill are maybe incorrect.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Um, might have a, a very hyper child on our hands.
That would be great too.
Honestly, we can handle it.
Yeah.
We have two toddlers and a hyper dog.
Like we got this, he's going to fit in just great.
Well, everybody.
Thank you again.
Thank you again for tuning into another episode of unplanned.
If you've been here since the beginning, oh my gosh, thank you.
Like seriously, thank you so much for listening each and every week.
Um, we're going to do our best to have really incredible guest interviews coming up while
we're off the grid and just like taking care of our baby and getting used to being parents
of not two but three boys.
So we appreciate your patience with these solo episodes coming out, but, um, yeah, I
mean, as always.
Let us know which guests you've really enjoyed us having on and which guests you'd like to
see on the pod and we'll do our best to reach out to them and have them.
Yeah.
Who do you want to have on?
Arthur Brooks again.
Yeah.
That'd be fun.
He's writing a new book.
Yes.
Love.
And I want to talk about love.
That would be fun.
I would love that with his wife, with his wife, Arthur Brooks and us, Arthur Brooks
and Esther.
I'm putting that one out there.
Put it out there.
I love it.
Send that.
Send that through the team.
I like it.
I like it.
That's a good idea.
Yeah.
I want Arthur Brooks back on again.
Yeah.
Finding love and staying in love.
Shout out.
Yeah.
That's sweet.
Well, thank you again and we'll see you guys next time.
Maybe we'll have a baby next time.
Maybe next time we'll have a baby.
Next time you'll see us, we'll have a baby.
That's crazy to think about.
Woo.
All right.
We're ready.
Peace.
Thank you guys.
Thanks guys.
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