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EMERGENCY MEETING EPISODE 129 - THE EXCEPTIONAL CHOICE

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EMERGENCY MEETING EPISODE 129 - THE EXCEPTIONAL CHOICE

The hosts provide a reaction and review of Episode 6 from "Invincible" Season 2. While excited to continue the series, they express that this episode felt rushed and lacked the emotional weight and tension of previous installments. They acknowledge key plot points: a time jump, Omni-Man and Oliver's developing relationship on a barren planet, the Viltrumite war, the reveal of a traitor, and a climactic battle where Mark, Omni-Man, and Oliver arrive to aid the resistance. However, they critique the pacing, feeling too much narrative was compressed, which diminished the impact of character development and the war's stakes. The non-action scenes, particularly those involving other characters, are described as lacking suspense. The hosts also find the current main villain less compelling than a previous one and feel the mole reveal was anticlimactic. Despite these criticisms, they still recommend the show and acknowledge strong elements like the final battle and some character interactions. The transcription also includes a sponsored segment for a Narwhal robot vacuum cleaner.

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Thank you to Narwhal for sponsoring this video, more on them in just a bit. Citizens of Viltra might! We are here to say we forgot Tech Jacket was in a Vinci Bull season 3, apparently, and as one of the people that took out one of the "Vinci Bulls" someone reminding me of that in the comments. And I was like, "Don't recall that!" Nope. Said, "Rewatch the whole thing!" And I forgot a couple seconds. And it's really bit us in the buttocks in the comments. Oh my god. With that in mind, we love that last episode still. And we are excited to watch episode 6. I speak for both of us. Are you excited? I am extremely excited. Yeah, the things I've been waiting for the past two seasons are finally happening. So yeah, let's freaking get it going. Let's get it going. Comment below and everything else we forget. Let's go. This is time. All right, ladies and gentlemen. We have watched "Invensible Season 2" or 4 plus 2 equals 4 is 5/6. So we watched Aaron. Yes. Stop yelling at me, please. And if you'd like to support the channel, a great way you can do that is by joining our Patreon page. We come in a Royal Reject where you can do the full reaction watch along with the admittable resync up with your own copy. Also generally, most of our movie reactions, you're able to participate in our reviews by asking us questions. We feature you. Your question? Shout-out to Pyproxy. Additionally, great way to support the channels. We're going to re-jag nation shop.com. We got a bunch of comic book inspired teas over there and our Royal Rejects are patrons get 15% off. Okay, Aaron, there's so much that happened in here. Mark Heild got a visible four pack. He grew beard. Oliver, he's got some facial hair. Omni-Man, he grew beard. The viltra-daddius and allies, they were winning until they attacked home. Oliver had a crush on lobster. Oliver tried to do with a lobster. We don't know what's going on. Amber, two months have passed. Omni-Man and Oliver are now the father and son getting along. And then we found who the traitor was. Big reveal. You guys are from the beginning. So, yeah, so much had happened. How do you feel about this episode overall? I liked it. It's a weird thing. I'm like, we're finally into the war. And it seemed like some major stuff happened as far as the progression of the war. But I don't know. It didn't move me or like get me excited in the way that I was hoping for. I like the narrative progression of what we were doing in theory. But some of it seemed like it was moving a little fast. We could have used some more dramatic weight there. I liked that Oliver and Nolan are on the same page. Something about the progression of how it moved felt a little quick. Because we were just kind of like jumping at different points. And a lot happened in the course of 50 minutes. They kind of moved the overall needle for the narrative, which I thought was cool. But um, yeah. I think it was more of an episode that I just liked to enjoy as a chapter as part of the large narrative than like, oh my god, this is a great episode. I still think the last episode was one of the best of the season. I don't, I don't feel the way I felt about episode four. Because this actually was something that felt like very pivotal to the immediacy of the moment. And yeah, there's some stuff with the betrayer that feels a little dubious. We had a, we had Throg, that's his name, right? Throg. Like Thrag, he said something of the effect of they don't, the sky's not who they think he is or whatnot. And what his real motive is. His real motive is, yeah. And I'm like, huh, that's interesting. It's the way he responded after the battle. He's almost like in like the Hunger Games, like President coin, like he's trying to go off to the bigger evil when he has his own motives in the face of. Maybe see that I remember, President coin. Julianne Morse character. I remember Julianne Morse in the Hunger Games, was she? Yeah, so she was like the district 12 leader, but like in the replacement of the regime of the capital she wanted to replace with something that wasn't them, but like her self in power. So I feel like an area of washies moving. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And we can react to him one day with somebody. But I feel like, I feel like this, uh, this guy is not the man we perceive him to be. He is a betrayer. He can't trust a betrayer. He just gets stitches. You know what they say, man? He feels just as potentially vicious and as cold as the Viltra might do, but for the opposite end. But I think it's interesting. He is fighting for different cause, but he still is a Viltra might hurt. Is that kind of necessary to win a war? You have to kind of detach yourself from motions in order to keep proceeding. You have to view a loss like this as a temper, as a setback and not as a loss. I guess, but I feel like there's a line though. You have to still matter. This is why you wouldn't survive in the battlefield. Not like me. I know you're a grown-up. I know. Cold times, soldier over here. Yeah. Never shut it to you. Yeah, that's not me. I'm not going to cry in war. You're like a bunch of sissy's. Sissy's shit. Oh, yeah, man. How did you feel about the opposite? I was going like, am I just tired today? And then I realized I'm not tired today. And I do feel very similar to how you feel about this episode. It seems like it's one of those things where everything shh. I kind of said this about four. It varies in the right way you were saying. I guys said this about four. I'm like, I really think about this. I should love when I don't. And nothing here I outright disliked. I liked the episode overall. And the finale battle was rewarding and had a lot of merit. And was the most exciting part of the episode. I do feel it would have been more thrilling if everything preceding it was strongly emotionally engaging instead of kind of being in flux. Like when they weren't with like all of her and Omni man, that was taking me some time to even get super into that when that should be kind of the easiest sell. There's something about this planet perhaps that's like it's so barren that that abandonment of atmosphere and landscape kind of makes some of the experience. And they experience a little bit like flat too. And through the passage of several months, I feel like not much really advance with them over the course of those months. It seemed like they were kind of going through a lot of stuff very quick. And somehow by going through stuff quick, it made things less interesting and at times a little boring. You know what I mean? Like sometimes in those conversations though, they were interesting. Like the context wise, I did like how Oliver and Omni man were finding a natural way to have a conversation. The reveal that Oliver was there when he said the thing about his mom, his biological mom does add weight. And the conflict that they had, this is Oliver's best episode, I would say, in spite of some of the feelings, I would still say this is Oliver's best episode so far in this season. And the way they found their kinship felt good. It's one of the things where it's like everything was right there. But through the execution of how we got there, I didn't really feel like I emotionally connected with it as much as I should. And as someone with like my own set of daddy issues, I feel like this kind of, there's a lot of easy sell stuff for me that I wasn't really, I just didn't fully click with. And when we weren't cutting with them, it was sometimes I was in a little bit conflict with the enjoyment of the episode. This is one of those things where it's like if we were just watching it as part of my binge, I wouldn't really give a ship of, in terms of like reacting to something and having to review it, I'm going to review it. And part of reviewing it is really assessing the impact of the episode and the imp and sometimes I think that's where the disparaging part between viewer and YouTuber can come into play. So with the, whenever the with Alan and Zoe, like the joke about the video game was funny, but somehow with that at the same time with them never really feel like they were in danger because I just kept turning to the video game undercut the tension with the joke. So the episode kind of needed action to have tension. And I think the show works best when they can have tension, really feel that tension and the weight of that without needing and the action just compliments that. So if you look at Alan and Zoe, there's no real tension with them until Viltra My Show is our punching them, you know, in space. So when they go back to their planet, the dialogue there and then they're winning and I understand and say, well, we're watching like, yeah, this whole thing is supposed to just kind of sell that like, oh, they're winning and it's supposed to mislead us into like, this is where everything's great, but then something terrible is going to happen. Like it was obvious that's what was going to happen. Okay. We're giving it a try. We were like, I felt like we were being pretty respectful to the episode. We weren't just like in rough, you know, shitting on and or anything. And somehow, uh, yeah, it's, it just felt like we were missing out on some, sizzling in the stakes, you know, yeah. Guys, girls, do you ever feel like your home just can't keep up with your life? Now I come from a hoarder's home. I mean, that literally not some metaphor. 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So you're not just spreading mess around. Then it's powered by our nar mine pro, which uses cameras and AI to recognize objects, avoid cords, adapt to messes, and even has pet friendly features, which is great for someone with four cats. It's quite smart and honestly just makes life easier. So if you want your home handled, go to us.narwhal.com/grag. That's us.narwhal.com/grag. I love that it's Greg and not real rejects. That just makes me happy. Thank you to our wall for improving my life. And it's, it was interesting because I feel like I'm accustomed to when we see recaps, all the things that recaps are relevant to or about to watch. And that kind of was the case in the last episode where we showed the, the little bit from episode four, but like how the, the fire lady got punched and she was in the episode at all. And in this, you know, pre beginning it showed Amber with, what's Eve with the baby or her being pregnant. So I thought that was going to be in some way part of the episode. And I feel like with the amount of things that happen in this episode, compacting with so many things kind of undercuts the effect of what they're trying to tackle with how large of a scope that is. Because we went from Mark, thinking that Mark was on the verge of death, at the end of last episode, through all crap there at the, during this desert planet with no way to communicate with, you know, the main planet to them just showing up in the nick of time and Mark's already better. And I was like, okay, I feel like that stuff could have been spread out. And maybe if they took more of a, this is a universal approach or like, we're dealing with the war stuff here. We're dealing with the Mark stuff here. We're dealing with the stuff with Amber over here or with Eve over here. Maybe we're dealing with the monster girl stuff. Maybe tackling the effects of the worlds could have allowed some of the stuff to breathe a little bit more with giving the show the effect of things feeling like they're longer, which in part could have helped us feel like, okay, these guys really are on a planet for months. And we are getting to have these scenes where they're growing and connecting. I mean, that's just the theory because I feel like with this comic being like what, like something like taking place over the course of 10 years of releasing, you have to truncate a lot of the stuff within the course of eight episodes. I mean, you have to compact a lot and montage through a lot, which I feel like can undercut the effect of the thing that you're trying to accomplish. Like if we spent more time with Mark and Omni-Man and Oliver trying to get back to the planet where the resistance was at and they're there, and they're all connecting or maybe we get to see the struggle of some of the war rather than just knowing that they conquered and took out different planets over the course of a montage. I feel like that battle would have felt like it had greater stakes. Yeah, like when they were devastating. When they're trying to the panel of the leaders, they're like, we lost all these people and like, well, I didn't get a sense of any of that. Exactly. Like you're telling me that. And I think this episode did a lot of information and fulfilling beats of an outline with having certain moments that would hit. Like there was a joke about the video game that I thought did really hit. The fight with Zoe and Alan and the Viltraments did hit when Space Race or Shows Up with the Space Race or yeah, Shows Up with the Gun. That was a cool moment. That was a great moment. And with all the build up around this guy, we finally got to see what the capability was. And they're like, oh, shit, yeah, this is this is a worthwhile investment to have gone out to get this dude. So that was good. And there were there were moments, of course, with Oliver and Omni Man that I did enjoy and were good conversational pieces. And then the final fight was really good too. And yeah, like I was talking, I was like, oh, yeah, it might have been a little more effective if they had show new. It's not as it was the struggles were going on. Or maybe it was like really hard for them. And us being aware that like they need Omni Man, Mark and Oliver. Yeah, the struggling without him. Yeah, where it's like, oh, they don't seem like they're really struggling without them, you know? And so like they came in at the right time. But if they were like really selling the struggle without them, and I'm still waiting to get the sense of like, we're six episodes in and I still find conquest remarkably more interesting than Thrag. Yeah. And people have really hyped up Thrag. Yeah, there's a really big deal that Thrag is going to be here. So there's still two episodes left. And if he carries on past the season, presumably will cool. And then we'll really understand why I'll the hype around Thrag. But I feel like with the two episodes, with the one episode we got with conquest in last season has been much more of a fascinating character and scarier and more threatening and every almost every aspect. Even though he's lost twice now, he's still somehow scarier. I mean, you know, yeah. And the show's defense. So for like, sometimes it's it's a great help. Other times it's a hindrance. The fact of how, I guess economic they are with the amount of time they give things because they are the show was able to fit a lot of stuff within the course of 50 minutes. I felt like last episode that was a plus or a positive of how much they were able to fit in. And I felt like this one was a bit of a hindrance, but kind of how you were saying the stuff with conquest, we became so endeared to that character. So fascinated by the character of the course of a single episode that I'm not too concerned with the stuff with Thrag. Thrag because I feel like in that finale, we could become super endeared to him, but right now we're just kind of teasing him. I'll out something like a Thanos. We didn't really care about Thanos until we saw our fantasy. That's fair. That's fair. That's a good point. I'm not too bothered by it. I feel like by this point, it should be like suspenseful. I should be on like the edge of my seat. And I'm not like I've invested fucking no. We all have all of us here, you know. And I'm not going to re-watch as you guys have done to me. You guys read the comics. And then they're not re-watched the show several times. There's been a lot of investment into getting to this point. So by now, it should be like this should be like fucking heart racing. Every episode should be hitting like a banger. Suspenseful tension or exciting. And right now this was like, yeah, it's fine. After a really exciting episode last week, then we got to a point like, yeah, that was that was fine. And that big big big finale moment. But I don't want the show to only really thrive at its like really sore. I don't want to only soar when there's violence going down. I think it should be soaring when it's just drama scenes and shit. Yeah. Also the stuff with the mole is kind of underwhelming. I was like, oh, all right, this is just that guy. Because they keep hyping up like who's the mole. Yeah, let's take it. Who's very underwhelming. I was like, oh, all right. He just got shot in the head and he think he's dead and then he's just still alive. I'm like, oh, what was the point of that? I don't know. I'm surprised like they would go so high. I mean, there's something kind of funny to me about like they would suspect out. They would suspect someone much higher up because there's a mole here that they didn't bother to look at the little guy. But I don't even know if that was like part of the commentary or that was like part of the oversight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There was no real no like, oh shit to it. When there has been a build up to that. Yeah. It didn't seem like they were actively looking for the mole either. There's a mole here. No, it's gonna come out eventually. Yeah. When you're in war, I feel like they should. It's true. Like when you're in war like that where it takes one guy to like swipe a button down and then we're going to leave you defenseless. Like he should definitely be on the lookout for your mole. Yeah. But I feel like there's so many things happening that they didn't really give give time to that. Yeah. It's it's this is interesting kind of lesson about where you so where you spend your time in how you were unveiling your information. High-resistant. Fold it because yeah, all the things were happening that we wanted to happen. But it just yeah, didn't feel satisfying the way that I was hoping for. Yeah. We got to up to those left. So that could still change or about to go to Viltrum and you know, all the the the hyping and fears. Well, first admiration and now like fear and dread for Marx. So that could be interesting. Where that's going to be headed. Plus they're they're farming that that virus again and I'm curious to see how the I can't remember the actual character's name, but Optimus Prime's character. That is. That is. Well, if he's going to utilize that bomb while Mark and Oliver on the planet, while OmniMense on the planet, and how that's going to affect things going forward. - Yeah, yeah. All right, well yeah. This is still fucking of inspaul, so still, you know, great time. Still rather be here than not. And overall, this season is weird. It's got 100% rontamatoes, understandably so. I would say that I still recommend this show highly. I would say that it's like, from still got two episodes left, been a little bit more up and down than I expected to. - Yeah. - Like from up to mid to like one very defining down. (laughing) But it's been a little bit more mid to high than some, but yeah, like some of the times it's so great that you forget about the loads. Other times you're like, "Oh, you know, it's been a little more low sometimes." We're like, "Not as interesting moments," you know? - But yeah, I feel like the season overall, how we'll be remembered back will be how it lands to finale. - 'Cause I feel like that's always happened. - Yeah, that's what happened last season as well. - I love last season. - I think last season is my favorite. - I remember as we're watching you having some like, up and down feeling sort of similar to how we're having now, but I feel like the way that the last two episodes wrapped themselves up made up for the issues I had. So I'm hoping the last two episodes of this will do the same. - That's true. Yeah, I think there was not much focus on the film trim stuff, but the focus that they were giving us was so strong. - Yeah. - Like whatever they were executing was strong. - Yeah. - Like the power, like the powerplex episode, it's a great exam. I know not every episode could be a powerplex episode. But that's like a great example of being able to do an episode that doesn't rely on action to be very engaging. - Oh, totally. - And right now it's like, I get we're bigger, but sometimes when you go bigger, you lose some of that emotional immediacy that you thrive on. - Yeah, you lose the personal with trying to go as big. Like it was sad seeing Alan's girlfriend kind of seeing all the destruction, but we weren't really connected to that planet like that. So it didn't have all the same weight. - No, no, no. But hey, what are you gonna do? It's gonna be all right. Everything's gonna be fine. I'm sure the last episode will be amazing. And overall, besides just talk about it, so thank you guys for being here on this journey with us. Thanks to those who still encourage us to just be honest with our thoughts and feelings. - You. - And if you disagree, that's what a keyboard is. (laughing) - Let us know. - Do it. - Do it. - See you guys. - Bye, Eels.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The hosts discuss their mixed feelings about Episode 6 of "Invincible" Season 2, finding the narrative progression rushed and emotionally less engaging than expected.
  2. Significant plot developments include
  3. Criticism focuses on pacing, underdeveloped stakes, and a lack of tension in non-action scenes, though the final battle and some character moments are praised.
  4. The hosts compare the current villain, Thrag, unfavorably to a previous villain, Conquest, and find the mole subplot underwhelming.
  5. An advertisement for a Narwhal robot vacuum is included in the transcription.

Summary:

The hosts provide a reaction and review of Episode 6 from "Invincible" Season 2. While excited to continue the series, they express that this episode felt rushed and lacked the emotional weight and tension of previous installments. They acknowledge key plot points: a time jump, Omni-Man and Oliver's developing relationship on a barren planet, the Viltrumite war, the reveal of a traitor, and a climactic battle where Mark, Omni-Man, and Oliver arrive to aid the resistance.

However, they critique the pacing, feeling too much narrative was compressed, which diminished the impact of character development and the war's stakes. The non-action scenes, particularly those involving other characters, are described as lacking suspense. The hosts also find the current main villain less compelling than a previous one and feel the mole reveal was anticlimactic.

Despite these criticisms, they still recommend the show and acknowledge strong elements like the final battle and some character interactions. The transcription also includes a sponsored segment for a Narwhal robot vacuum cleaner.

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Key events include Mark recovering, Omni-Man and Oliver bonding on a desert planet, the reveal of a traitor in the Viltrumite resistance, and a major battle where the resistance initially succeeds but faces a setback when attacking the Viltrumite homeworld.

The hosts liked the episode but felt it moved too quickly, reducing emotional engagement. They appreciated narrative progression and action scenes but found some dramatic weight lacking compared to previous episodes.

Thrag is a Viltrumite leader in the resistance whose true motives are questioned, similar to a character like President Coin from The Hunger Games. He is perceived as potentially untrustworthy and driven by personal ambitions beyond the immediate war.

They enjoyed the development of Oliver and Omni-Man's kinship, noting it felt natural and added weight to the story, though they wished the execution had allowed for deeper emotional connection.

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