Elon Musk’s MASTERPLAN, Netanyahu BURNS & Kylie Jenner in St. Tropez | Julian Dorey
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Julian Dory’s podcast features a deep, critical examination of power, influence, and transparency, particularly within government and technology. A standout episode features Jim Erdman, a former CIA official who claims to have become an internal agent of a "deep state" after resisting pandemic-era mandates, prompting a discussion on institutional power, accountability, and personal responsibility. Dory emphasizes the importance of questioning narratives and separating truth from classified information, especially when discussing entities like the CIA. The podcast also highlights concerning developments in surveillance technology, such as Palantir’s new AI-driven system that fuses satellite and camera data into real-time tracking tools, raising alarms about mass surveillance and loss of privacy. Additionally, Dory critiques the contradictions in prominent figures like Elon Musk, who publicly warns about AI risks yet actively promotes AI innovation, and the performative wealth display of influencers like Kylie Jenner, which Dory argues serves to obscure economic inequality. A central philosophical theme is the "IMU Theory," which posits that the most enduring cultural icons are not those with power or wealth, but those who embody relatability through struggle, humility, and human vulnerability—such as Spider-Man, Jesus, or Michael Jordan. Through these discussions, the podcast urges listeners to remain vigilant, question authority, and recognize the human cost of unchecked power.
what's up everybody and welcome back to another episode of the julian dory podcast i am julian
dory i'm joey d how you doing how you doing joey d if you want to read that text you got as we got
on air last week you got to do that when you get something like that that comes in right away oh
you're gonna put me on the spot like i'm gonna put you on the spot like that oh can we at least
get like a picture verification of it or i don't know about that i don't know about that oh might
be a little too much yeah i i do is a very um demonetization text sometimes you get a horny
text you know that's right in the middle of something important that's right i i looked
over like literally as i said like how you doing and turned towards deep when we opened up last
week i looked over there and yeah yeah yeah i looked down at my phone i'm like well i got an
hour and a half till i could answer that one he looked like he was fighting for his life but shout
out to whoever you were that was a really nice text
you
very very nice thing to get the party started d we had an interesting guest come in this week did
we not we did we did so yeah we've been filming a lot recently and then we're like loaded up in
november and december we just got a lot of filming to do throughout the rest of this year when i'm in
town and all that so the one that we filmed this week will come out in about two weeks by the way
like just so you guys understand the way that i do episodes is when i can get people like when
they're available we make it happen we get them in here and do it and deal with it later and there's
two kinds of episodes that happen episodes that are extremely current event and gotta get out right
away and then episodes that are more evergreen and then some episodes that are fully evergreen
like kind of more storytelling personal story stuff like that so i film it and then deal with
programming later so on a given week you'll see an episode you guys don't know this but
you'll see an episode that maybe we filmed fucking the day before
and then the episode after that will be one that was filmed two and a half months earlier with
someone telling their story so i'm always kind of trying to juggle that so the one we filmed this
week was a lot of like personal story stuff that's related to things happening so we're
going to put it out i think in about two weeks that said it was with this guy jim erdman hey guys
if you're not following me on spotify please hit that follow button and leave a five-star review
they're both a huge huge help thank you now jim
as far as i know has only really appeared on one other podcast and that was tucker carlson back in i
want to say that was june or july i think it was july when he did and you know jim's another one
of those guys very nice guy we we got along with him well but definitely someone who has worked in
the government for a long time and as i have laid out many times before my thought process in doing
that is i would much rather the people who have that on their resume okay not people that are like
hiding behind something else that's really creepy but when people have that on their resume so me
and all of you out there are aware of that before you listen to them i love putting them in this
chair so all you guys can see it too you can see us challenge them go back and forth talk to them
like human beings as well and get their story or their perspective and all you guys out there
can judge what's going on but jim
is very interesting because he did a lot of serious shit at cia including things that he
can't talk about publicly which is the nature of of that kind of job but some stuff that you know
we were at least able to talk off record and talk with some other people and get some i guess
verification on on the types of work that he did but this is a guy who kind of became an internal
agent of his own so he's kind of the guy that he claims and comes out with at cia in 2021 and it was
over the covet stuff as it started but his whole thing is that he feels like
what was the exact phrase he used if he was like i was the deep state or something i think he said
it like directly like that said a few times yeah he's like you know it's this gradual process that
then happens all of a sudden where you're like holy shit and you look in the mirror and you're
that guy and you're like oh my god i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry
that guy and you guys out there can kind of judge what you think of whether or not that is how it
actually goes down but he said that after basically fighting back against some of the mandates that
were happening and then representing a lot of other people in the bureaucracy across all different
parts of government who felt the same way about covid you know he was demoted his career got
changed a whole bit and then fast forward to the trump administration coming in he was brought on
to i think
he gave the exact term but like a committee or some sort of internal investigative committee
through tulsi gabbard who was the director of national and of director of intelligence for
all the agencies and everything under trump until june where they were going to try to
do some of the things that trump promised he was going to do on the campaign trail which is like
uncover secrets and files that the american people and the world have the right to know and as you
and i well know much of that was very stonewalled joey yeah something like that fair to say and i did
actually i don't know what your thoughts were joe but i did feel that from him i did feel like on the
genuine scale i think he was genuinely both on and off camera very frustrated with some of the
i don't know change that he felt could be made you know again you gotta you gotta watch that language
when you talk about people like this but and then he basically wasn't allowed to so i say all this
because when that episode drops i'm going to be really curious what your guys thoughts out there
were because he's also going to be coming back about a month after that episode comes out and
i made that decision while we were recording like there's this internal calculation that
happens when i have people in here where i usually know within maybe the
first hour or so first 35 minutes where i can kind of chart out is it's going to be one podcast or
two right because i'm never going to put out a fucking six hour episode i don't do that so i kind
of have in my head what the timeline might look like and i knew right away that this guy it's like
well this you know we could be sitting here for six and a half hours and so what i felt like was
going to be happening was the first three three and a half hours were going to be us talking more
at a meta level about his career his approach some things that happen to him zooming out now
as a quote-unquote private citizen again i'm always going to put that in our quotes with a
guy like this as you should and kind of asking him like why are you here why me like why are you
talking to me why are you talking to so many people on camera why are you going on a movement
now outside of cia these these are the things you got to wonder because you guys are going to be
you guys all righteously hold it to account all the time as you should it's like we saw what a
meat factory in all the wrong ways mainstream media became and a lot of it's because they just
started becoming the narrative right where they started letting in the people who drive the
narrative and so if you are going to talk to people to try to investigate places that you have
righteously so enormous suspicions about and in some cases well-founded cases again so i'm talking
about places like the cia
we don't want to fall in that trap both in my seat running the show and in your seat as the audience
as taking taking every fucking thing at their word and it could very well be a mix it could be
you know he's saying some things that are over the target so to speak and other things it's like well
we got to protect that kind of information right and we got to separate what does danny jones say
the wheat from the chaff yeah that's how it's said so i'm going to be very curious what you guys think
the second episode we will do with him i there were eight or nine very important topics in my
head very specific events and narratives that i wanted to talk with him about and i told him that
while we were on air i said i'm going to be bringing you back i don't want to sit here and
do six and a half hours a day i want to be fresh for that other podcast because i also when we
recorded that the other day i was the day i got my monthly allergy shots and i'm always like a
little bit slower when i when i have that
day so i want to make sure i'd be fresh for the second one but i i think you guys will find
the third hour of that podcast i think it was maybe three hours 20 minutes something like that
something like that yeah but when we got into the third hour and we got into a lot of the
discussions about like how does the cia control the media how do how do feds send out narratives
and package them in other things how aware of this were you yeah you know
i think you guys are going to find that conversation very very fascinating and i will
say i you know we were nice and we got he's a nice guy we got a lot of spies are right we got along
well but i appreciated the fact that he rolled with it when it was very clear i was not just
going to sit here and nod my head and be like yeah that checks out you know there were a lot
of times where i'm like yeah i don't know why you're saying that i don't know why why would
you be saying that you know so i don't know that was one of the more interesting podcasts i've done
in a while and i wanted to make sure we at least gave you guys a heads up on that because i'm
really gonna want i'm gonna be
looking at the opinions of people out there on that one so thank you to jim for doing it and
you will get another definitely at least three hours to view of him and judge for yourselves
for sure so that's coming but you know speaking of people in the government who don't say they're
in the government peter teal peter peter teal we we've laid off peter for a few weeks it you know
i feel like you always got to come back i feel like even when we haven't he's still there he's
still there right behind you he's still floating pause floating yeah that's a hard pause buddy
but you know he's still floating out in the ether sphere there and there's a new tool
that palantir has did i put this link in there yeah i got it right here you got it right there
of course you got it already palantir as we well know is a company that is just interested in
protecting us american citizens
and in some cases apparently protecting us from ourselves because we can't police ourselves and
the same guys who run this company like peter teal also invest in companies like flock and
probably some other companies as well that aren't named flock doing cameras
you know i've said it a million times and i'm always going to remind people this so that we
don't lose you know the the full message here companies like flock are just one of many they're
the what we're looking at at the moment you know but there's other companies like axon and places
that are chomping at the bit to take the place of flock because their ceo sucks and is a beta male
but not the lonsdale one the second one def i'm going to come to that in one second because john
lonsdale is a a yeah let me get this the new tech yeah yeah so palantir just released and i'm reading
this from at orwell day on twitter so you guys can check out that account there little wink and a nod
to big brother and george orwell so shout out to that account palantir just released a new
system that fuses satellites radars and every camera into one real-time tracker of people and
movement we have to consider the possibility probability that with flock as the eyes a system
like this could be overlaid onto the u.s and we could be the targets another reason why we cannot
allow flock and i'm going to add editorialize here companies like it to exist in the way that
they do right now for sure or to exist as orwell day
so let's play some of those videos so people can see this tool and then we'll we'll talk about it this
is maven smart system palantir's software as a service product that we are deploying across the
entire department as you can see it's not just one data feed it's multiple and instead of having
eight or nine systems for those decision makers to look at every single day in order for them to make
decisions you then fuse it into a single visualization tool the single visualization
tool allows you to select deselect different types of data look at different approaches
to data but more importantly from the same system that you're trying to develop the your workflows
around once you have a detection that you want to actually move and actually move into a targeting
workflow for example this targeting workflow we love our corporate terms left click right click
left click magically it becomes a detection
okay pause that real quick
detection left left click right click left click it's that easy he's literally saying out loud
he's doing the meme out loud bunch of betas behind keyboards controlling the world and saying
you like it's a video game while we all deal with the consequences let's keep going into
a workflow this is standard digitized workflow but i want to walk you through it quickly
you have different types of targets that are identified on the left there every single column
produces a different type of decision making process once you have that decision you're
trying to actually action that process we now move into koa generation course of action generation
where we are automatically by a number of factors trying to identify what the best asset to
prosecute a target looks like to prosecute a target once we've got the the different oh my god
select one we then can move directly into how do we action that target so we've gone from
identifying the target to now coming up with a course of action to now actioning that target
all from one system this is revolutionary we were having this done revolutionary nine systems
different kind of revolution that i had that's good it's good right there different kind of
revolution than i think the founding fathers had in mind this is also if i may make the leap here
a prime example of like probably great guessing in this case predictive pro programming because it was
so long ago like kubrick type guessing with i'm thinking of of the dark knight with chris nolan
that tool that lucius fox uses morgan freeman in in the film and i've referenced this before
where he walks in and bruce wayne says you can i don't remember how it worked but you can basically
use all cell tower technology to track and visualize all the people in an area all at
once throughout gotham so that i can know where to be and lucius fox goes no one should have this tool
and that bruce wayne says when you finish or where does he go he goes when you finish just
type in your name yeah and so then when lucius fox finishes the job and batman gets the joker spoiler
alert if you haven't seen that thing though you know lucius fox types in his name and the whole
thing shuts down and blows up the problem is joey d please finish this thought because well i was
gonna say i think lucius actually did a little backdoor deal with ink you tell and palantir
and he was like i got some good tech this is from the wayne family this ain't even
here oh don't do that darpa don't even don't do that don't don't put that on lucius fox yeah
he made the deal i don't think he made the deal that's not what i thought i haven't seen him
around much later but i would no no don't do that when's the last time morgan freeman come on come
on he can't do wrong he sold the tech i don't think he did deep deep there's not a deleted
scene there we're just meeting with peter teal i actually heard that there's 40 minutes of the
dark knight that they didn't put in the original cut to be honest with you and that's not one of
them though he's a decent immoral man he goes down to washington he's like well i got some good tech
for y'all no and they're like what do you got and he's like what if i told you you could use
bluetooth to track everybody and that's how i met my friend andy and then andy dufresne comes in
he's like i'll do the deal i'll broker it okay
okay okay that's how it happened i just for the record i disagree with that he co-signs that i
think lucius fox was a brave and decent man but point being literally no one who's behind that
type of screen in the real world is a brave and decent man that's just been proven over and over
again they do not type in lucius fox and watch it blow up they go you know what we're gonna be
the good guys here yeah you know what i i know what those books say i know they all warn about
you know being an overlord and you know taking advantage of power when you're
having but like that won't be us because our intentions are great where have you heard that
one before every day and all these people every single day they're gonna save my life
so you know it just it's very frustrating when a company like that is openly a company like that
being palantir is openly and directly in contact and in full-blown business deals throughout the
history of their entire company since i believe 2003 with the three-letter agencies yeah
you have to ask these questions and then you have to ask well why are they
beta testing it on no king's protests and by the way where did the no king's protest get
funded by how's that somehow connected to this i'm pure spec on that but like
it's a giant self-serving culling mechanism for all the sheep yeah it just is and you know the luck
luckily there's some wonderful people though that founded the company have moved on to
more important things in society apparently what are they doing john lonsdale is one of
them he seems like a really trustworthy guy palantir co-founder joe lonsdale sorry joe lonsdale
is a major force pushing the trump administration to lock up unhoused people can we stop it
he's talking about homeless people all right like let's stop with the unhoused people let's
what are we doing why are you letting words bother you so much dude come on
no they're letting words bother them it's bothering you changing them lonsdale founded
the cicero institute a lobbying group eight years ago now they've been instrumental in passing laws
criminalizing camping or sleeping in public in 16 states it's unclear why the billionaire has
a passion project of getting homeless people incarcerated this is a prime example of to forget
the fact that this guy's a scumbag this is a prime example of where the opposite reaction of a pendulum
is very bad it's very bad right so i think we can all agree the disgrace to which
we have watched so many local governments make a business out of the homeless industry like that's
what they do they pay people hundreds of thousands of dollars to have jobs where the incentive is to
keep the job so homelessness therefore continues and they have tent cities everywhere and people
living in hell on earth sometimes that's how you get places like zombie land in kensington in philadelphia
like i agree this is all bad on that count joe lonsdale is correct but like his way to pull
it back where he's like yeah let's just imprison all of them that's not right
not how it's done dude you know i'm not sitting here by the way i'm not sitting here pretending
to have all the answers to all these problems i'm not sitting here telling you it's going to be
perfect or that you're going to remove the entire homeless crisis forever and not have any homeless
people there's always going to be some form of a percentage where that's going to exist and you
want that to exist in in the most orderly way possible which seems counterintuitive for sure
i understand all that but like the palantir guy who you know who's connected to technology that
kind of tracks people and fucking calls them in like sheep like we just talked about saying yeah
let's just imprison all these people who many of whom don't have contact with families don't have
people to represent them a lot of them have mental illness and you have no idea they probably have no
idea where they are yeah that that's not a little bit dystopian like it's just i point stuff like
this out because the way these people think obviously is not like you and i but everything's
a data point
you
, and that includes people we are zeros and ones to them yeah there's no 0.5s there's no twos there's
no tens there's no you know one times one has to equal two or three whatever terrence howard says
there's none of that it's just zero or one in the arcade hit it or don't yeah and i think when people
like that gain more and more power and influence which is the trend we have seen that has gotten us
to the point we are and that's why we're here and that's why we're here and that's why we're here and
that's where we get also people like the epstein class which peter thiel is a member of you know
i don't see how that ends well for the american empire if you will like i i don't i i say that
tongue-in-cheek but like i i don't see how that ends well and i say that as an optimist so
we're going to point out stuff like this as we always do on the show because
it's just another not a little not a little data point yeah using their language yeah
i'm i'm convinced he wants to turn these people into soylent green that's the real
that's the real so great like the movie yeah yeah and soylent green is people
soylent green they should they should feed one of these these unhoused people to him as food because
instead of like a child and be like how do you like that there's a nice middle ground how do you like
that pal there's a nice middle ground how did that taste joe yeah taste that one joe yeah now what if
you we got that guy on melrose he didn't he was missing a foot when we got him now what if he likes
it though what if he's like really so far gone he's like this tastes great ladies and gentlemen
the child trafficking crisis is over we just solved it
we say it's like um have you ever seen midnight alley oh no i haven't okay it's like yeah we're
gonna you got a job we'll give you some food roof over your head it's only temporary it's
only temporary it's only temporary that's right that was all spec joe we don't sue me i'm just kidding
yeah yeah look we joke here that's what we're just doing calm you gotta make comedy of the madness
that's what it is but elon musk that's the one that you got it it depends on the day you catch
me on and it depends what the most recent thing he did was where i'm zero or 100 on him i i'm like not
i mean it's some sort of mix i'd like to think but god damn are there some are there so many
discrepancies with him where it's like you know cool weed guy friends of peter teal
yeah doge creator shuts the up about everything that's going to cost him a government
contract yeah free speech guy but also won't let grock comment on things when it's affecting
his paycheck brilliant innovator or guy who's in front of all the people doing the innovation
we're a mix like it's a lot there and and then he's got he's got opinions on every goddamn
thing and he owns a platform like that's a maybe a catch-22 you brought back free speech in a lot
of ways for sure it's not perfect but like it's way better than it was which also means you got
to see some stuff sometimes that you're like jesus christ that's that one but that's what free speech
is it's not clean it's painful and it is way better than the alternative i've said that before
he bought it i've said it when he bought it i said it since he bought it and that's what it is but
like then how many followers does he have on there 210 million or something whatever it is yeah he's
got a big platform and then he kind of says whatever the he wants which includes him talking
out of his ass on things or astro-turfing and then i'm supposed to sit there and be like oh this
looks really organic and natural that's right they really caught the algorithm yeah because he's got
no control over the head zero control now he did open source some of the algorithm right i saw even
the other day he just released more of it okay you could see how it works again you gotta like
but like if i was astro-turfing stuff you know i'd be like guys we should make something that
appears as though like people can see what it's like yes they can check it out i know that wasn't
really eloquent the way i just said no no no i i agree that was fine it's it's just
i don't want to live in a world where i assume everyone who has some degree of what we might
define as power yeah it's bad yeah right i also don't want to live in a world like i was born
yesterday and pretend that you shouldn't look on a case-by-case basis at everyone
and question everything you see and hold people who have significant power to a responsible
standard and that's a that's a pun on on the old quote from spider-man with great power comes great
responsibility and part of that means that the people it's a total banger dude uncle ben uncle
ben shout out uncle ben part of that means that the people that you may whether you planned for
it or not have some degree of social power over which is all of us when we're talking
about someone like elon musk you know they have every right to audit that yeah like in
a lot of ways shows like ours and there are many on the internet part of the job is to be an auditor
of that and so i with him when i look at a peter thiel and i audit things man it don't look good
it's just not not not a lot of light in that darkness there and in fact i at the top of my
head i can't really think of any i'll say this he's a he's a brilliant innovator he just innovates
things that are killing us so you know i i mean brilliant innovator from the sense of like
smart businessman but like every james bond villain was a smart businessman you know
so guys like that it's a little more straightforward and we've gotten more
and more evidence on that over the years a guy like elon musk has some contradictions he has
some things that i think as i laid out are clearly not great and then he's got some things that's
like well that's not the worst thing i've ever seen and so i i'll always look at it that way but
one of the wild contradictions with elon musk that i think about probably once a day is his whole
odyssey with ai so back in 2018 2019 i got really obsessed with artificial intelligence and the
coming technology and learning about it and seeing what it could do and i you know i'd go to talk
about it with other people and a lot of people will kind of look at me like i had 10 heads be
like yeah it's not who cares it's not here yet i'm like how the people not be so interested in this
then you know 2020 came i started to kind of put it aside because no one would talk about it
and then boom 2023 comes in and suddenly it starts becoming a thing 2024 it really sets in
obviously now we're living in boomer ai slopville elon musk very publicly and known to most of you
i'm sure was out there aggressively and i mean aggressively anywhere where there was a running
microphone in the 2010s he was yelling from the top of the rooftops about ai and the dangers and
i you know i don't like being a doomer on stuff but when someone like that who has access to a
lot of things like him is saying the types of things he is yeah i'm going to pay attention
you're going to see we have some podcasts coming that are covering across the spectrum of ai
from people like we have one coming with lee cronin this week where who's
you know a darpa chemist and and scientist brilliant guy i've had him on the show before
but like
he thinks we're going to be fine and then you're going to see one with connor leahy coming out
about a week after that that we just recorded where he's very concerned about this and has
worked inside ai and is a little bit more towards the doomer side not full-blown doomer he thinks
we can get out of it but he just thinks we're coming towards a crisis elon musk is someone
that i would describe as speaking like a doomer in the 2010s in fact i've cited the book super
intelligence by nick bostrom many many times on the show i believe elon wrote one of the insets on
this book back when that came out in 2018 and it's a very dense read it's not like a fun read but
one of the wildest reads i've ever had back then and it paints to all these basically like decision
trees of where ai could go including all the worst case scenarios to where like yeah it becomes
super intelligence takes over and we all die and elon musk was really pumping books like this
and he you know he famously talked to
obama about it when obama was still in office all the way back in like 2014
warning him about ai point being like he was on record for a long time saying we got a
big problem here then in the earliest days in that same era of open ai
i forget what it was was he thief was he listed as a co-founder
He was involved in running OpenAI when it started.
Yeah.
2015, he co-founded it.
He co-founded it.
Yeah.
Okay, and that's obviously-
And he left in 2018.
Left in 2018, and he hates Sam Altman and fights with him publicly.
At least that's what we see as the narrative.
And they were in a lawsuit together, I believe, right now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right.
We'll get a picture of them like Noam Chomsky and Steve Bannon soon one of these days.
Right, just white boys with motion, bro.
Yeah, that's what it's going to be, throwing fits.
Just white boys with motion.
But at least on paper, that's what it is.
And he calls attention to the articles like the one Ronan Farrow did on Sam Altman,
where he's listed as a psychopath by people around him and people he's worked with.
Elon regularly calls attention to stuff like that
and remains very concerned about the stuff that OpenAI does.
But as the 2020s came in, he got quieter, I would say, overall on the decibel volume about AI.
And he also then, especially after he bought Twitter, started investing hard into it and leaning all the way into it.
He now has at SpaceX, he has SpaceX AI.
I know for a fact, I don't, well, now it's public.
I'm just going to be, I'm pretty sure what I'm thinking of is public, but I'm not going to say the exact detail.
He has XAI too.
Right, but hold on.
I want to stay on this.
I want to make sure I get this right.
I know for a fact, I'll put it this way.
I know for a fact that SpaceX.
SpaceX AI, if that's what the holding company is called, has actively bought some major AI companies recently.
I had a friend at a company that was bought that I think is public, but I'm just going to hedge right now because we're doing this live.
And I'm not positive that that's fully announced in public, but basically like they're ramping that the fuck up.
He builds, as Deef just said, he built XAI, which as we all know, includes Grok in building that tool.
And he shows Grok all the time.
And Grok is.
You know, it's had some weird coding.
I'm going to get to that.
That's perfect, Deef.
I'm going to get to that in one sec.
Grok, you know, has had some coding issues and some funny public coding issues in the past and everything.
But it's also been like at times a really good tool for people to reply to posts that they see and saying, Grok, is this true?
Can you verify?
And like it's useful in some ways.
You just have to wonder where it may have bias in other ways you can't see.
Yeah, for sure.
And Elon pushes the shit out of this.
So.
Yes.
On one hand, still fighting with Sam Altman.
And then on the other hand, he's like full speed ahead with AI.
Yeah.
And he's coming out here talking about how money won't.
What do you say?
Like money won't exist in five years or something, which I think is bullshit.
Elon's made some claims in the past, like, you know, we're going to do this in three years and then three years comes and it doesn't happen.
Like he loves to make big claims like that, you know, and shoot for stuff.
Fine.
But like he's not always right about that by any stretch.
And like the money.
The money argument.
I should have talked about that with Simon when he was here, but that it doesn't make any sense to me.
I can't visualize how that would even work or be possible without more on this in a minute.
Some sort of civilization altering event that severely impacted the global population.
Yeah, that's why we got to let them take care of it.
Yeah, that's right.
We're idiots.
That's right.
We're just the dumbasses.
We're just the dumbasses talking about it on YouTube.
But yeah, we'll.
Yeah, we'll.
Anyway, so he's been in a series of contradictions on AI.
And I'd love to get some true serum in that guy and just see what he thinks.
But I say all this because he shared a video this week that I believe he got the shit ratio.
Can we go out of this for a sec, Steve?
I think he got the shit ratioed out of him on this.
Yeah, this has 32,000 comments on it.
So for an account of his size, getting that.
I mean, that counts as a ratio, even if it's not like a negative ratio, because he still had a lot of likes on it.
But he types out, this is the future we shall bring into being, which, again, I'm not hearing him say that tonally.
But when I read that, that sounds like to me, this is happening.
There's nothing you can do about it.
And you know what?
This looks pretty good to me.
Yeah.
And let's just play some of this and what it is for people that didn't see it.
But yeah.
Oh, nice.
Together.
Robot hand, human hand.
Now, that's kind of cool.
The floating cars thing is cool.
She's a fake AI.
I don't like that.
That's a robot.
I don't like that.
It's harmony.
Everyone's happy.
There's no crime.
It's perfection.
Above the skies, we became limitless.
What is that?
Is that like a Death Star?
Space engineering.
Oh, nice.
So we're engineering on the moon.
So the moon exists.
It was from here.
Got it.
We pushed onward.
Okay.
It looks like a little base.
We built our first interplanetary city.
So that would be Mars.
So he's colonizing Mars.
There's Matt Damon.
New Olympus.
New Olympus.
We can do slowly.
The essence of Earth took root.
Are those supposed to be like the tree of life?
There's a floating subway.
Our second home.
Have a lovely night.
Now, what happens if that thing gets mad?
And the asteroid belt.
Right?
We tapped into nearly infinite material.
Thief's not liking this.
Yeah.
About the book?
No.
About what the robot does.
It rose above the acid clouds of Venus, proving the harshest worlds could be reimagined.
Uh-huh.
Is that a zoo?
No. That's people. Oh, it's an enclosed box like in Truman Show. That's nice. Now, that looks kind of cool. Okay, that's like Tokyo. Oh, that's not what I was thinking. Okay. Yeah, the red little laser lights. Now, are you having sex with robots or people? Does that create a new race or like you just empty the load?
No.
Yeah, you empty the load.
You empty the load.
Uh-huh.
And that's like a flying Batmobile.
Forty kilometers beneath Europa's surface.
The silence broke.
Oh, so this is like now they're doing submarine shit. Oh, they're finding underwater aliens now. Look at that. So he's admitting aliens would exist.
We learned to channel the chaos.
Energy conversion base on another planet.
I don't even know what planet he just said that was. I missed that. There's a lot of fire and shit. It looks hot.
In some worlds.
That's straight out of fucking Interstellar right there.
That's literally out of Interstellar.
They were built.
Like the circular, right?
Yeah.
I also don't like this lady's tone.
She's really AI-y.
I guess that's like a fake sun.
Uh-huh.
What will become?
Oh, a robot holding a human baby.
The rest.
And it's got bionic eyes.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, no, that's a genetically modified robot hybrid baby. There's nothing.
Isn't it funny?
Nothing weird about that.
They always make it a point to say like these communists and socialists are always going to promise you utopia.
I don't know.
Hitler and Stalin hated each other.
I know.
And it seems like he's promising the same shit. He's always like, oh, these fucking idiots.
That's right.
And I say that because they hate each other.
They're the same guy.
Yeah.
People hate people who are massively narcissistic, set in their ways and autocratic, if you will.
They want control.
And when they see someone else who wants that, too, who happens to have the same themes under a different flag, if you will.
When it comes to.
When it comes to methods, they hate that person because it's really an insecurity of how much they hate themselves.
I'm just speaking out loud here, you know, going off a deep thought there because it's a valid thought.
But when I see the end of a video being a robot holding a human baby that's then revealed when you see its eyes to be some sort of bionic robot hybrid.
And I see the guy who owns X saying we shall bring this world into being.
Yeah.
I start to think that maybe all the people talking about a transhuman.
Fucking psycho generation of people trying to lead us into the next whatever utopic hellhole really is an actual accepted thing that exists towards the top there.
Not that I didn't already kind of think that.
But when people are telling you who they are like this, you should probably listen.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mars.
Old Mars.
Old Mars.
We're going to go to Mars.
Really.
It's the class disconnect exists across the spectrum.
It exists across the spectrum of riches, which includes a spectrum of IQ.
Okay.
I don't think I'm going to accuse Elon Musk of having a low IQ.
I'll definitely give him that.
He's got very, very high IQ.
But someone with maybe not an IQ like Elon Musk, probably fair to say, Joey DeFray.
Yeah.
I don't have one like that.
Well, I wasn't going to say you.
I was going to say someone who happens to be really rich.
I don't have that either.
Who's a little disconnected, who maybe doesn't have an IQ like Elon.
must would be kylie jenner yeah well yeah yeah is that is that like a joey defway saying would
oh for sure yeah i think it would either yeah i think it would be wrong but kylie jenner put out
a vlog this week and you know bless her heart um i'm sure i'm sure she had good intentions with
this and you know just needs maybe some better managers around her to uh stop her from pressing
send on certain things but she put out a vlog showing about her life in san trope nice okay
so you know just just as a general law a lot of times when you pronounce some sort of place where
the last letter is silent it's it's usually a nice enclave it's that's a pretty good rule of
thumb right there yeah for sure yeah especially if it's like french yeah san trope like you know
that
the average demographic there that's running the economy is pretty well off so let's just start
there and listen if you have money and she's a i believe kylie's a billionaire off of her brand
like yeah i mean that's fine there's nothing wrong with that but you have to read the room
a little bit you have to look at the vibes you have to look out at america and and at least if
i would say if i were in that position i'd say you know i'm really fortunate i live a great life
i'd like to think in that type of position i'd certainly give back a lot maybe kylie jenner does
i don't know much about that i i don't want to accuse her of not giving back if she does but
you know i would look out at society and i'd be aware of things i'd be talking to normal people
just like i did when i didn't have money and i'd be saying huh seems seems a little harder out here
than it was 20 years ago yeah right right i mean this is asking a lot this is how i would do it but
yes joey d is right it's apparently asking a lot of people like this because at a time where around
half of americans don't have 500 in emergency savings kylie jenner who has no economic incentive
i'd say at this point to have to post content have to post long form content showing her life
behind the scenes you know she was nice enough to give us this six and a half minute
vlog of her life let's play a little bit as joey d
so this is kylie jenner this week from santro we just finished our workout last workout before i
leave i couldn't really film much of it i like girl it works out and now i'm gonna go pack
she's gonna go pack let's go pack analyze my outfits okay guys this looks a little crazy
right now but this is this is what it really looks like these are new racks of clothes
we tailored all of this for my trip there is a lot of stuff that i'm going to show you
there's not one thing from target in there so i'm going to try all of my dresses on
make sure the tailoring is good and then start packing we lay out all our shoe options oh a lot
of shoe options there i'm not going to take everything i can't see red bottoms but i noticed
some louboutins in there tailoring this cute little she does have we'll take that one we'll
take that one we'll take that one we'll take that one that's different and then joey d for
cut forward to 3 30 on there because we're going to get in the g wagon
and then we're here's the private jet here's the private jet door getting opened again it's
fine you're rich it's fine but like six and a half minutes of this okay six and a half minutes
okay let's go to europe hi guys hello how are you i'm so good
i know i get to go to private jet let me just show the whole world why they can't eat at home
yeah i gotta get the steps in nothing wrong with that should i fly the plane today yes you should
oh look look gotta make sure we have
we got snacks sushi very nice sushi we got her
initials engraved into the seats
very nice bed right there kylie air the tvs are branded with kylie
gotta get a little hair check-in all right we get we get the picture right here what i really
want to do is i want to read the tweet above it because i think this guy nailed it i don't know
who this is it's at you got nick on twitter so shout out you got nick one of the filthiest
instincts of 21st century capitalists is their need to
retain their vapid existence through self-exposure to the masses unspoken wealth disparity on its own
no longer does the trick you must stream your superiority directly into the eyeballs of every
man woman and child it's not let them eat cake it's let them watch me eat cake this thankfully
in turn helps distance the masses from capitalist cultural dominance as they're exposed to the
absurd disparities many of us would otherwise struggle to help people see and understand
similar to how footage from gaza is being shared by the media and the media is being shared by the
gaza helps spawn billions of anti-zionists by turning an idea into something that could that
they could see with their own eyes this will spawn countless anti-capitalists as the system
further destabilizes digging their own class grave one video at a time i say let them post
it that's such a bar he had up there it's not let them eat cake it's let them watch me eat cake
meaning he's pointing out so perfectly that the self-awareness is at a minus 100 it's not at a
minus 100 there is no ability to have that responsibility and and understanding and and
basic gratitude of like okay i've earned a lot for myself and people she's a kardashian so people are
gonna say also like wow the kardashians have sold out to be able to make a lot of money but like
let me give her the credit for a minute just for the sake of argument here made a lot of money on
a brand great job you don't need to throw it into people's faces and it's a very strange
paradigm that's happened on social media now there's a lot of people watching the show who
have just gotten into it this year and now i'm grateful to you guys a lot of you guys are watching
the episodes during the week as well which i've been doing for years and built that whole audience
before we started doing the weekend show me and dave here as well but for the people who are new
this year and maybe haven't heard on many other episodes over the years me discuss my favorite
theory of all time i feel like
now's a pretty good time to do that because back in 2019 this guy charlie rocket i'll never forget
this went on a four and a half minute rant on the ed my let podcast this was in late 2018 early 2019
where he described this secret to the universe that he had figured out in the most innocent of
ways that you know it's kind of an overstated thing to say this but i'm telling you the second
i watch this video
and it finished it completely changed my life and it didn't change my life because it changed
the way that i thought about the world what it did is it confirmed the way i had already lived
my life to that point which by the way at that point i do need to say i had nothing i wasn't on
the internet i didn't have a podcast yet didn't have anything to go on but like as a human being
it described the way i had lived my life and set an amazing example for me
and i'm not going to go into too much detail about that but i'm going to go into a little bit
that if my life was going to change and maybe i was going to end up doing something public
that this is the baseline you always have to hold yourself to because not only is it the right way
to live it is also the way that has been proven again and again that the people who are most
inspirational across generations and centuries have lived their life and so what this theory
was called charlie named it the imu theory and for people who don't know charlie he's now a friend of
mine
he's someone that years later in 2025 he actually saw me talking about the imu theory and was pumped
and reached out and then came on my show for episode 352 which was a fucking amazing conversation
but charlie rocket was as he would his real name is charlie jabali but his nickname is charlie
rocket charlie rocket as he would self-describe himself was a fat kid in his mom's basement
and he loved hip-hop fucking loved it grew up on it and so
eventually when he was a young teen he built like a studio in his basement he was living in
right outside atlanta so he starts inviting over some guy connecting with and inviting over some
guys on the hip-hop scene in atlanta and eventually this one guy walks in there and long story short
dude was two chains and it was two chains before he was two chains and charlie became his manager
and the rest was history right and charlie became a massive success all these things in the industry
and you know totally self-made but he'd always had health problems because he was a bigger guy
and wasn't living a healthy lifestyle and so eventually he got a brain tumor and he he lost
a lot of weight to be able to you know be healthy in the future and help his body fight back against
that and he'd always had this dream being an athlete that led him to making a video for what
was it six hundred dollars joey d something like that he made a video for he told the whole story
on the podcast just like amazing he made it made an incredible video for 600 that nike picked up
and were blown away by it that they then took him because he trained for an Ironman and ran in it.
They then used that as part of the narrative to put him in this massive commercial with LeBron
and Serena. Really, really, really cool stuff. And so he kind of got to live his childhood dream
after already being successful in something else and getting himself healthy. And he was always a
guy who, and to this day, wears it on his sleeve. The good, the bad, his struggles, his happiness,
all of it. I've just always admired him. But he talked about this theory, the IMU theory,
on the Ed Milet show, like I said, for the first time ever publicly. And what he said is he's like,
he was sitting around one day and he just thought to himself, he's like, I wonder who the highest
grossing superhero of all time is. So that's film sales, TV show sales, comic book sales,
anything put together. And so he goes into Google and to his surprise, it was Spider-Man.
He was expecting it was going to be Batman or Superman, you know, good looking, muscular,
chiseled chin, gets all the girls, has the money or whatever, you know, that kind of thing.
But Spider-Man, he said, that's really, really interesting. So he thought more about Spider-Man.
He's like, okay, average, kind of scrawny. You know, he has a sad story too. His parents died.
He lives with his aunt and uncle. They're at best lower middle class, probably lower class.
He's not popular.
He's a nerd. He's got a weird talent. You know, it's not like he's, he's someone who soars through
the air, like in shining armor. He's, he's a fucking spider and wears this full body suit
and everything. And then, you know, he wants the girl, but he can't get the girl. And he's,
Charlie's putting this all together. He's like, this is so fucking relatable.
Okay. What about religion? So he types in, what is the biggest world religion by following?
Christianity. He goes, okay.
Okay. Christianity. Who's the hero of Christianity? He's like, Jesus Christ.
Okay. Carpenter, hung around with poor people, had, you know, sometimes where he'd talk to a
lot of people in a crowd, but usually had about 12 followers around him. He wore regular clothes
at a time where the most popular people with the most power rode around with golden armor
on a beautiful shining horse because they're above you and everything. This guy walked
off and in barefoot with the people hung out with lepers, you know, and, and the undesirables,
the people that society had cast it aside. He's very humble. He's like, that's really
interesting. He's like a normal guy and people relate to him. He goes, all right. So you got
Spider-Man, he got Jesus. If this could be true with corporations, then we're really onto something
because, you know, we all think of corporations as like, oh God, here we go. So he's like, all
right, what's, what's the most popular corporation of all time? And he goes, all right, what's the
most popular corporation of all time? And he looks in his hand and he holds up his
phone and he goes, Apple, we all have it in our fucking hand. And he's like, okay. They were also
like the Silicon Valley OG. Who started Apple? He thinks about it and he goes, Steve Jobs. Now,
Steve Jobs was an imperfect guy. Also kind of wore that on his sleeve, but this was the first
corporate Titan that said, fuck the suit. He wore normal tattered clothes and jeans. He had a beard.
He looked like,
your dad. And at a time where all these tech companies would come up and they're building the
new frontier and they name all their products, you know, Inspiron, 63,000 and bullshit like that.
Steve Jobs named his products, Lisa, iPod, iPhone. He named the products after you. He
wanted you to see yourself in the products. And then, you know, he dies and there's memorials.
People are crying. He's like this legend. And, you know, for a corporate Titan, that's, you know,
for a corporate Titan, that's, that's unheard of. Well, I mean, we always ask the question today,
like, what if Steve Jobs were alive? How might things be different? Because he was a guy that
was willing to go against the grain and say, Hey, maybe, maybe we should, maybe we should chill with
this kind of shit. You know, even in the early days, I believe it was Steve. He didn't even let
his kids have, have the phones when they first came out. Cause he was concerned where that was
going. And then he died before, like he died in, I guess, 2011. So right when the iPhone was out,
right when the iPhones were coming into full mainstream adoption, but this guy was relatable.
So he's like, Oh my God. Wow. We're onto it. He goes, all right, what about sports?
And he's like, all right, it's not LeBron's fault. It's not Kobe's fault.
But like when you think of sports and you think of icons, someone that walks on water, who,
you know, people treat like a God it's Michael Jordan. So put aside Michael Jordan post his
career at this point. Who's like the billionaire kind of reclusive guy gone away from the cameras,
you know, all that. Think about Michael Jordan when he was in his career and when he was on his
rise and his journey to get there again, not LeBron's fault, but LeBron was called the king
when he was 14 by a bunch of dudes in suits who came up to see him at a gym. That's not his fault,
but like, he's not like you, he's a genetic specimen. Okay. Michael Jordan was the scrawny kid
that got cut from his high school basketball team. He's the guy that had to fucking go to UNC.
Eventually after he proved himself in high school, I had to prove himself again at UNC
wins a title at UNC still isn't the first pick in the draft, not the second pick in the draft either.
In fact, he's drafted behind Sam fucking Bowie. You go who exactly comes into the NBA is immediately
great, but doesn't get his flowers and is not respected for a lot of years.
In fact, he's cast aside by the guys like Isaiah Thomas. There's even,
there's even a point he broke his foot in his second season comes back. By the time the
playoffs rolls around drops, fucking 70 on Larry Bird in the Celtics and Larry Bird say,
who's a legend says after the game, I think I saw Jesus Christ on the basketball court today,
but Michael Jordan still didn't get that respect. And it took seven years to get over the hump
before he won his first title. Then he has the apex of success. He's the man he's he was the
earliest guy with the shoe deal. And now that starts to become a thing like big time. And
he wins three titles in a row. He's like the best player in the world. And then his dad gets
murdered tragically. And he has grief and sadness and tragedy on, on, on a scale that many people,
unfortunately can relate to. And in the middle of that, he literally leaves it all behind and
goes and plays baseball, which was his first sport, the sport, his dad loved as well.
And he tries to go, you know, well, full pro, but semi-pro in the fact that he wasn't in the MLB and
he's playing in the MLB and he's playing in the MLB and he's playing in the MLB. And he's playing
in the minor leagues with, with the white socks organization. And, you know, he wasn't the worst
player ever, but you know, you go from being top dog to a dude who is kind of embarrassing himself
as the eight or nine hole hitter batting 200 on a minor league baseball team, you know, making
fucking 10 grand a year. You know, he did that on, on a public stage. He played, he fleshed out his,
his grief and his, you know, midlife struggle in that way in front of everyone. And then he came
back and he rose back up. He won three in a row and he's the greatest ever. There is nothing like
looking at tape of a basketball game on a fucking Tuesday in 1997, before iPhones and looking around
the full stadium and seeing a picture from the court of every single person in the stands,
standing up with cameras flashing because number 23 in a bull's uniform is walking onto the court.
No one's ever had that effect. And so looking at his
and what happened with him, he was relatable. He had struggle. He was a real person. It wasn't
given to him. Not to say other guys have had a given to him, but like, they're not like you,
Kobe was the black Mamba, right? He's different. He's not like you. Michael Jordan was you,
you could be Michael Jordan. Charlie pointed out. He had the song cause I'm like you and he's like
me and look at what, like that's, that was Jordan. So you got, you got superheroes,
you got religion, you got corporations, you have sports,
and what all these legends of those respective categories prove is that ironically in a world
where we are now living through social media is if we have to show people, look at me,
look how great I am. Look at all the things I have. Look what I do. Look at how I'm different
than you look up to me, follow me because I'm better like a video that we see right
there from a Kylie Jenner, the real paradigm throughout history, the people who live as legends
long after they're gone are the people who actually do the opposite and say, look at what I
go through. These are the types of things that all people have to go through. You can be just like me.
That's why you should follow me. I'll be an inspiration. Not someone saying, Hey, just follow
me. And maybe, you know, you can see what it's like and then keep living your life. That is a
really, really interesting dichotomy there to this day. It still gives me goosebumps.
When I, when I talk about it, that's not the best
I ever described it right there for sure. So that was a little long-winded, but amazing,
amazing theory from Charlie rocket. So when I see thematically everything on the spectrum from like
tech Titans pointing to some fucking transhumanist world with robots and
AI and shit that they're going to bring in, what do you say? We shall make this world
come to pass or whatever. You know, we're clearly referring to guys like him doing that,
like Elon Musk, because don't worry, let the adults handle this. And then when I see someone
like Kylie Jenner having to post a six and a half minute blog about her fucking
two day trip to San Tropez and how she's balling and all this shit, I see people who are constantly
whether they realize it or not reminding you that you are not them you can't be them
but enjoy the view and there's something really really broken in society with that for sure
yeah i got nothing to add to that fuck them fuck them fuck them you know who else we should say
fuck them to who benjamin netanyahu old ben old ben he was in town the balls on this guy
the balls on benjamin netanyahu are just unfortunately enormous i i don't even i
don't like saying that as a compliment the guy's a fucking living demon but the fact that this guy
has the audacity to fly here to the un and lecture everyone on
i can't
even say this was a straight phrase from the moral high ground
it it's it's actually stunning at this point because i've said this many times this is not
a stupid man he's a very evil man a a living infamous devil for sure but he's not stupid
at all and it just you know we were just talking about rich people
in america from elon to kylie not being able to read a room this is a guy actively committing
genocide and ethnic cleansing not being able to read a room filled with other countries many of
whom have tried to censure his country over and over again and have only been stopped by america's
veto vote because we have a very unholy alliance with the israeli government pun intended but one
of the things that benjamin netanyahu and other people who back his cause have said since october
7th that
this is the only time that he's going to be in power in a country that particularly bothers me is a bar that he dropped again in this speech to the un which is quite disgusting on every level let let's play that first one deep the first link right there
this is this is i want to play it and then we'll react okay i want to give you an idea what this
means for a country of 10 million proportionately this is equal to 40 000 innocent americans
slaughtered in less than 24 hours
he's talking about october 7th 16 times 9 11 16 16 times for a fact thank you benjamin that occurred
not very far from you not far from here yeah i want to give you an idea what this means okay
the reason i have a problem with this line is because he doesn't even understand the irony
that he is he is quite literally putting a higher value on a life in his country than let's let's put
the palestinians aside for a second we're going to get to that in a minute but like just talking
about america over here who's funding his bullshit we are funding his bullshit he is saying that
their lives in israel are worth what was it 16 times what our lives are worth this is what guys
like him do in that government they play the victim on things that have happened to them and
they have to one up you with bad things that happen to you
okay you know we lost six million in the holocaust that's worse than the polls who lost three
million so let's only talk about ours that got lost that's bullshit and last i checked i haven't
heard a poll complain about that shout out to my polish listeners out there all killing is bad
all genocide is bad all ethnic cleansing is bad i don't give a fuck who does it you want me to call
it out in rwanda you want me to call out saudi arabia's government you want me to call out israel
you want me to call out the
chinese with the uyghurs you want me to call out the bush cheney government that fucking sponsored
our guys to go over there and god knows how many lives got lost that were completely unnecessary
in the iraq war i'll talk about all of it it's all bad this isn't hard but when you have to try
to say look at how bad our struggle is this is why you got to pay us more and why we should be able
to kill as many palestinians as we want who by the way don't exist his words not mine obviously
you know because we lost
16 it was 16 9 11s on october 7th i'm going to get to what hillary clinton said in a minute
because even she's saying it's an inside job but like fuck you dude and you're saying it in the
city where we had 9 11 which we still don't have answers for 25 years later and by the way i'd love
to know what your five masaj spies were doing in fucking fort lee that day that's neither here nor
there i'm sick i i've obviously been sick of this guy you guys all know that but like
i just really wish he didn't exist anymore on on the earth that that we all share i think i think
that's a fair way to say it now deep's taking the words out of my mouth here perfectly someone
replied i love this reply from at terry by the by the bay is that right yeah she said using the
same mathematical proportions israel has murdered 7.92 million palestinians you want to play this
game too can play it pal everyone can play it pal everyone can play it pal everyone can play it pal
everyone's got a calculator so if you want to do that you cannot have it both ways it's going to be
described the other way deep did you did you get some uh i got this right here love it love it okay
you're from the un you're you're on it okay all from the un where he's speaking and making this
point let's play this second clip first and then joey deep has a beautiful fact check on this
of benjamin netanyahu
talking about the peaceful settlers in the west bank which by the way shout out to seal on tour
our boy nolan we got a podcast coming with him in a week or two who just did some great documenting
over in the middle east on both sides by the way he covered it all where you know it's it's literally
just proved in one of his little videos being there this isn't true but let's let's hear from
netanyahu himself
the current
is a handful of young juvenile delinquents
a number who go or throw stones throw stones that's all who uh chop down olive trees
occasionally they do they fire up they they lit some fires i can't stand i won't stand for
vigilantism i don't stand for we're a country of law right law so we put our shin bed on them
that's right that's what they call settler violence and the number of casualties a year
maybe two or three maybe two or three that is just like this is being discussed maybe two or three
dead compared to the thousands of terrorist attacks thousands against the peaceful settlers
i'm the victim honorable people that he's saying law-abiding people is that right there
honorable people law-abiding people he noticed what he said he didn't say the thousands of
terrorist attacks upon israel or whatever which already wouldn't be true if he's referring that
especially like on a yearly basis or few-year basis he's saying on a yearly basis he's saying
on a yearly basis he's saying on a yearly basis he's saying on a yearly basis he's saying on the settlers
he it's not enough that he's denying that some of the settlers are terrorists which by the way
i don't know if you saw this joey def mike fucking huckabee israel mike went to the took the
binoculars finally he's been asked to do this the ambassador u.s ambassador to israel who's in the
tank and has netanyahu's cock in his mouth at all times he was finally had to answer the calls and
go with some
palestinian representatives to the edge of one of the settler towns i don't even remember which one
it was and he then in a press conference afterwards very nervously said and he was like and i've said
this before uh it's terrorism even mike fucking huckabee called him terrorist but benjamin netanyahu
runs to the un and talks to all the boomers on fox news who probably fucking eat it up not our
boomers that listen here you guys know what's up but the ones who were sitting there clocking that
on fox news probably eat it up and go yeah seems like a smart guy
you know goes to them and it's not enough that he has to deny that there's terrorists on his
own side doing this he then has to turn it around and say no no no there's terrorists attacking our
guys who definitely aren't terrorists the level of gas lighting there would make joseph gerbils
fucking shiver in his pants he'd be like that might be a little far i don't know i don't know
if i could sell that one addy like like
literally now joey d if you pulled this up this is just some some basic basic stats and again
we've got a podcast coming on and all i'm going to talk about this key incidents and trends from
2024 to 2026 in the first half of 2026 ocha recorded over 1 000 settler attacks causing
casualties or property damage surpassing previous records and affecting more than 230 palestinian
communities this followed an annual total of eight of 1 835 recorded settler attacks over
2300 palestinians including over 1 000 children have been displaced in 2026 alone according to
un human rights monitors oh oh chr dozens of palestinians have been killed or injured annually
in incidents directly involving settlers or joint attacks with israeli security forces there is a
stat too as well d if i should have had this before can you check out i want to make sure we source
this correctly as well so we'll take the time to do it i'll kill some time while you're doing it
for sure but can you
you
give me the number of
settler of
settlements
Settler Inflicted Deaths Recorded in the West Bank Since October 7th, 2023.
I don't remember the numbers. I don't want to say anything right now, but let's see if we can get
this. So this is from Google. They're still saying, from the UN, there's still 1,001 Palestinians
killed in West Bank since 7 October, 2023. Now that's from the UN. Let's open that up. Let's
make sure we have the context here. I do not want to get this wrong. I don't want to just read the
headline right there. So the UN Human Rights Office in occupied Palestinian territory is appalled by
the killing of nine-year-old Mohammad Bajat al-Halik, who was shot by Israeli security forces
while playing football in Arria Hebron on Thursday, October 16th. The fatality brings the total number
of Palestinian killed by ISF and settlers since October 7th, 2023 in the West Bank, including
East Jerusalem, to 1,001.
One in five of the victims is a child, including 206 boys and seven girls. The number also includes
20 women and at least seven persons with disabilities. This does not include Palestinians
who died in Israeli detention during the same period. The figure represents 43% of all Palestinians
killed in occupied West Bank in the past 20 years. So it is an enormous step up.
Are there 22. Okay. And since October 7th, 2023,
or armed clashes in the West Bank and Israel, including 16 women and five children. Equally
disgusting, by the way. I want to be very clear on that. 22 of the Israeli fatalities were members
of the Israeli security forces, so that would mean 37 of them were not, and I abhor all violence on
on either side there for sure the youngest of the fatalities is two-year-old leila katib who was
shot to death by isf while the bedroom of her house in al-shahouda janine leila was killed on
25 january 2025 during the israeli operation known as iron wall which resulted in the emptying of
three palestinian refugee camps in janine and tolkarim in another recent example of child
killing on 8 september islam muhammad and muhammad musaddiq both age 14 were killed by the isf while
trying to get back into Janine refugee camp,
posing no threat whatsoever to soldiers.
So to be clear, that figure of 1,001 that Joey Deif pulled up
obviously includes a lot killed by Israeli security forces,
which are not directly the settlers, as far as I'm saying that correctly.
Right, Joey Deif?
Yeah.
So we'd love to get numbers.
Maybe people can help with good sources in the comments,
and everyone fact-check that as well in the comments,
that also separate out the number who have been killed by literal violence
that we can even record, by the way, that gets recorded and not covered up by actual settlers
in the West Bank taking land from people. So when Benjamin Netanyahu goes and denies this
and says, oh, they're just doing some fires, it's a lie. And it's the worst kind of lie
because it is lying about ethnic cleansing and murder.
I can't really think of how it gets worse.
I mean, maybe I'm fucked up, Joey D, but that seems pretty bad.
Yeah, I'd say so.
Right? Yeah, I'd say so.
And then, you know, it's not a Benjamin Netanyahu speech
without giving some veiled threats.
Let me pull that first one up right there.
You see what one I'm talking about?
Yep.
That's it.
Always got always got a wag the dick in front of everyone. Let's get some volume on that bang bang
Remember these he's holding up a pager
You remember the beepers
Could be you
Well, I can tell you this because Bala certainly remembers them
Yeah, because they all blew up.
That's good, Charlie.
So if you remember the Mossad beeper operation back in 2024 where they blew up all these Hezbollah guys where they stood and also inflicted casualties on people who were around them.
The fact that a world leader, you know, is trying to show the inches on his dick by threatening – I take that as a veiled threat.
I'm not trying to be a pussy about that, Joey Deef.
Maybe I'm wrong here, but like holding up the physical pager to a room where 70 countries
or whatever it was got up and left before you talk because they don't even want to be
a part of this and saying, hey, listen up, Malaka.
This could be you.
Like, again, we go back to reading the room, something he doesn't do.
There was more fear mongering there as well, Joey Deef.
Because, again, what would it be in Netanyahu's speech
without warning about the issue of Iran
and how they cannot have a nuclear weapon?
You're sitting here in the General Assembly Hall of the UN.
You know what one, one ton, just one,
one ton ballistic missile would do if it hit this place?
It would obliterate the entire compound.
In fact, two such missiles would obliterate the UN.
So you can imagine.
Think about 1,000 gigantic missiles
falling from the skies on your cities, on your homes.
I salute the courage of the people of Israel.
I salute the courage of our brave soldiers.
You're sitting here.
Yeah.
Think about 1,000 of those ballistic missiles.
I want you guys to think about something else as well.
I think I want you to think about at least 300 undeclared nuclear weapons that exist on submarines
as far as I know around the world it's hard to know because it's never been admitted to that
his government has that they're the only country that has them that has not been forced to sign
the treaties where they admit that they have them and they also are rumored pure spec from great
Jewish American journalist Seymour Hersh wrote a book about this 35 years ago about a so-called
Samson option, which I genuinely hope doesn't exist, by the way. I hope Cy is totally wrong
about that. I mean that dead seriously. Joey Dukes laughing, but I mean that dead fucking seriously.
The Samson option is a wink and a nod to the Bible where you have the story of Samson,
who's this really strong guy. He's captured by, I can't remember if it's the Philistines. He's
captured by his enemies and he was very strong because he had long hair. So they cut off his
hair and now he's weak. And they tie him to the columns of the temple and he's weak, but then his
hair slowly starts growing back. And one day, unbeknownst to his captors, he's become strong
enough that he can pull down the columns. And so he knows in pulling down the columns, he's going
to kill himself, but he kills all of his enemies and everyone else around him as well. So everyone
dies. You can kind of translate the picture of what the Samson option would look like with 300
nukes in a country that pretends to not have them even though the cia has i believe released actual
data in the past of the imagery they took in demona in 1967 where they were able to test the
uranium on the ground and prove that there was some sort of nuclear base there that the israelis
had had which they got from our facilities in pittsburgh and ohio in the new mecca fair in 1965
kind of interesting that that did happen two years after JFK took fucking I don't know six
bullets however many it was obviously not what they told us when he had been the guy saying hey
you guys aren't gonna have nukes I don't know that's just interesting to me obviously pretty
much the whole world maybe except Nikita Khrushchev wanted JFK dead but it was certainly convenient
for the Israelis as it was convenient for the CIA the Pentagon and many other people that he was out
of the way because he represented i don't know maybe some peacemaker status on certain things
joey deef yeah i'd say so yeah and i'm not even going to play this clip but netanyahu again world
leader in the middle of a war where he's committing all these atrocities and everything of course when
he comes to america and goes to the un who are the people he needs to talk about joey deef he needs
talk about the mayor of new york city and streamer hasan piker a twitch streamer good for him but you
know needed to make sure he hit them and made a point about what an existential threat they are to
israel i mean the jokes write themselves but i said i want to talk about hillary clinton so i'm
going to come back to the jordanian king in a second thief because that that was interesting
what he said we talked about him a lot in the past but hillary clinton we didn't talk about this
hillary clinton who you know to say she's deep state would i think that'd be disrespectful to
deep staters in fact you know like yeah they're like we're not like that but hillary clinton went
on morning joe msnbc or what what's it called now ms now yeah and said this a few weeks ago
I want you to imagine this being said even a year ago by anyone prominent, let alone Hillary Clinton.
But let's run the tape, Joey D.
This bombshell that came out in the Israeli press where Netanyahu had been literally called by, you know, Sheikh Mohammed, MBZ from UAE, and warned that Hamas was planning something.
And either he didn't believe it or he – it's horrible to say – he wanted to see what they could plan so that he could come down hard and it would enhance his position.
I don't know what his thinking was.
you see what she's saying right there she that's the strongest implication ever and i and i'm going
to journalistically say it is technically an implication she didn't explicitly go all the
way there but she is very clearly saying seems like an inside job to me this is the same event
that he's now marketing three years later as 16 9-11s when you got hillary clinton going hey fella
inside job i don't like that hillary clinton whose husband took 18 visits in the white house
from je yeah you know well that's what i wonder i'm like is it just a game back and forth like
listen you drop that epstein shit we're gonna drop the bombshell that you let that shit go down
ladies and gentlemen that's a joey deef cook right there let's not lose let's let's not come
on son let's not lose the noise in there hundred percent correct still wild that
this is the bar they choose to say out loud like it's gotten that far that they're like yeah we
can throw this one in there yeah that works par for the course right interesting very very
interesting but i've talked about the jordanian king over the years on the show because there's
been multiple people remi adeleke who's in the navy seals has been on the show great guy he knew
the jordanian king personally when he was serving over in the middle east and you know the guy was
a popular guy because also the u.s has a lot of military bases there and then joe b warwick who is
as tim dillon would say friend of the show been on here four times he in the book in pretty much
all of his books has been able to use the king directly as a source very interestingly as well
in honest and negative connotations sometimes too meaning like the king is friends has become
friends with joe b warwick
and has openly helped him write books and by helped him i mean has been able to connect him
with sources and you know provide on the record interviews that's really the the main one right
there like the king is telling him about well this happened and this happened and whatever
and joe b writes it in a way where he's reporting on it but it also includes enormous mistakes
that you know guys like this from an optics perspective when you're talking perspective
when you're talking a world leader they don't like ever put
in shit like that on the record and he has done that which is fascinating to me that he's done
that the first book joe b wrote about el bellowey who is the al-qaeda guy who was a double agent and
then blew up the coast base in the middle east the u.s base in 2009 and killed a bunch of people
that guy was a jordanian doctor and it was a really bad look for jordan and when joe b wrote
the book the king reached out to him afterwards and he was like i don't know i don't know i don't know
i don't know what to do with this book i don't know what to do with this book i don't know what to do with it and he was like hey this is a really rough book for my government and my country this doesn't make us look good but i appreciate you reporting the facts and not injecting all kinds of opinions in it you know so if you need on the record interviews from me in future books i will do that and joe b's next book was black flags about isis which ended up winning the pulitzer and again the
first chapter is about how the guy who ended up like being the the godfather of isis al-sikawi
he was actually accidentally released from prison by the jordanian king as a clerical error
at the beginning of his reign and like that's written right out in the front and was admitted
to by like it's just it's always been interesting like i remain
there's things i remain suspicious of there you always have to be with any world leader and
anybody in a position of power but it's always been interesting that dynamic that like he's
willing to say some things like it is when it's unpopular to do so i have also cited how
in the days after october 7th he was at the jordanian king was at a conference i think
somewhere in the middle east might have been in europe i can't remember that part for sure
but he's at a conference and he was immediately asked
will you
accept palestinian refugees into your country and paraphrasing the answer he was like i'm glad
you asked me that you want me to say yes but the problem is if i do that and accept refugees from
gaza i'll be giving the worst elements of israel's current government what they want
they will be getting those people out of that area they will effectively ethnically cleanse it
and those people will not be allowed back there in the future
so no it's not that simple i'm not turning them away because i don't empathize with them
his wife is literally palestinian by the way he's like i see the bigger picture here so he's always
been an interesting guy still you gotta be suspicious of some things for sure you know
i wasn't born yesterday but he's interesting and so at the same time that benjamin netanyahu
is giving a speech at the un this guy is giving a speech at the un and he says this
this israeli government's
expansionist appetite is now a regional threat and today syria is the warning the international
community is choosing not to see repeated incursions creeping territorial expansion
new facts imposed on the ground including around vital water resources
step by calculated step israel is testing how far
it can go and every time the international community looks away israel learns that it can go
even further across borderlines and legal limits okay this that's a guy who has been friendly
with israel throughout much of his reign by the way saying that so when i tell you publicly
the tides are are turning everywhere on actions that in the past maybe would have been ignored
you're seeing it play out at the un this past week you are seeing it play out and that could
be interesting and i said we would get to the part and broker stuff and i might have that up
again because we're running up towards the end here and there's another thing that i have to do
so joey deef when we record this next one make sure i do and i'll see you next time bye bye
do that that's my bed and i'm probably going to put a cut in at the beginning where i warn people
that that's not going to get hit today but it'll be in the next one there was a video though the
chase geyser put out of jared kushner can you pull this one up it's it's under the pardon broker
section d if it's the bottom link kushner prepping right there and like this is one of those from
like all right where are we going with this and then i keep watching it and i'm like oh oh maybe
maybe maybe chase is cooking here did you see this yet joey deef no it's the first time you're
seeing this first time first time you're seeing this okay here we go now remember before joey
deef hits play jared kushner buying islands buying an island off the coast of albania right now
that was floated in by nato rothschild by the way
his word's not mine look look at the game and here we go but he's got in the back look at the
globe he's got in the back what about it that's not the actual way the globe looks this is the
future map now pause that real quick that could be a little bit of spec i i looked at that a few
times because it's faded in the background he might be right about that i can't fully tell
joey deef what do you think um yeah i don't know i'll first watch i don't know we'll see we'll see
okay let's keep going with the flooding is that one of the uh navy or nasa maps that we played a few
episodes back yeah it's from a book he has on a shelf now here we go the new map the new map
he's reading the book about the new map energy climate and the class
the map and he's got the globe in the background with how the map's gonna look and he's buying
islands well i mean it makes a lot of sense a lot of people don't even think kushner is a
hundred percent human i don't what is happening to him dude is the soul just being like sucked out of
him all right that's good right there interesting it's interesting i was talking with someone else
this week i have heard of a lot of people telling other people i know behind the scenes as well as
some people i've talked to who are from well-to-do places
you know have access to some intelligence and stuff like that i have seen massive trends
of these types of people getting dual citizenship and by the way joey d if a lot of them are getting
dual citizenship in very similar places they're doing it in southern and eastern europe very very
common hot area i'm hearing and then when you look at the elite of the elite the people i've
never talked to like the jared kushners they're buying islands you know they're they're they're
looking at at x's off the map if you will places that maybe they could
get away to we've talked about the the billionaire bunkers
We had Doug Rushkoff on the show where he walked through that and the really creepy meeting he had back in 2017 with those five billionaires where they were asking him about how to plan for the event.
And the event was some crazy world-changing population-decreasing event that would happen that was a foregone conclusion in their mind.
They weren't saying like, well, we wonder if – they were like, it's the event.
It's going to be one of these five things or whatever, and we just want to be ready for it.
So how do we build a bunker and get ready for it?
And then you get reports from other people who recently just said this, Steve.
We just had someone here who was talking about this.
But maybe it was Brett Weinstein was saying that the bunkers, what he's heard, are that a lot of – no, it wasn't Brett.
Someone else was telling me this.
A lot of the people that this person has talked to – I'm trying to remember who the fuck told me that.
A lot of the people he knew who were building.
The people who were building bunkers were doing it out of fear that there was going to be some sort of social unrest and that they'd be – in the French Revolution, they'd be on the wrong side of the gate.
Yeah.
Which obviously we never want to see something like that.
But again, when you start seeing the divide get so, so much, historically, things like that have happened.
And I think everyone should be on alert for something like that.
I never want to see something like that happen.
But we have to be able to handle things to where the people are able to take back power and do it.
Do it in the way that looks like the movie where the good guys win.
You know what I mean?
And that doesn't mean that it's not – that it's ever perfect and that, quote, unquote, no one gets butt hurt for sure.
But you want to try to do things in a way that would be – I don't know.
I don't mean to be too optimistic or delusional, but American.
Like land a free home with the brave.
Let's get brave and get some more free back.
I'm not trying to fucking make it sound way simpler than it is.
So apologies if that is how it's coming across.
But like there's got to be a better way to do that for sure.
And I'm always going to advocate for that.
And even like when I talk with the – I've said this many times before, but whenever I talk with my military guys, like on the show, those guys,
it's like the strangest catch-22 because they train to go over there and see action and be ready to go.
And they'll all tell you like once they're in it, like it's what they live for.
At the same time, they'll also tell you about the losses that they experience out there.
And in many cases, the survivor's guilt because a buddy falls on the battlefield and you never get over that.
It's a horrible cost.
And so I'm – I'm not a –
I'm not a moron.
I understand that humanity is flawed and war does exist sometimes.
And sometimes there is a need for it.
But like the number of times we say there's a need for it is significantly larger throughout history than the number of times where there actually is a need for it.
It is something that, to quote Simon Dixon, who's going to be coming on the show, you know, the financial industrial complex loves to profit off a bunch of fucking people dying on battlefields.
And I'm never going to advocate for that.
It is wrong in every way and it should be avoided at all costs.
You know, so somehow it gets weirder and weirder out here, Joey Deef.
But we have a nice list of stuff to talk about in the next episode already.
Yeah, definitely.
So let's fucking rip that.
All right.
Well, shit.
Onward and upward.
Onward and upward, boy.
Onward and upward.
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