Ed Sheeran speaks out on Gaza

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Also in this podcast, a podcast how missing Y chromosomes could be an early warning sign of cancer, and it becomes a larger meditation, I hope, about time and the mysteries of being alive and faith. A documentary filmmaker interviews the world's oldest people. Ed Sheeran's been in the spotlight since the rapper Macklemore was dropped from his tour after making pro-Palestinian remarks. All of the British singers, supporting acts, including his band, withdrew from the tour in solidarity, and ticket prices fell dramatically. But Ed Sheeran pushed ahead, and at a solo concert in Philadelphia, he addressed the controversy for the first time. I've tried in my career not to be a political commentator of any kind, because I want my music and shows to be about unity, not division, about humanity, not politics. But this is. A humanitarian issue, and I can't hide how I feel about it anymore. What happened in Israel and at the No Music Festival on October 7th was horrific and compounded centuries of Jewish pain. What is happening in Gaza is catastrophic and unjustifiable and disproportionate. My heart has been broken by the scale of devastation and loss of civilians' lives, of children's lives. And the systemic injustice we're seeing on the ground, the unfolding of the West Bank, cannot be overlooked. I am already speaking to people across the spectrum to work out how to make a contribution that helps victims of these terrible times, and listening and learning, because I do not know enough. There was a notable police presence at the stadium in Philadelphia as dozens of pro-Palestinian protesters gathered outside. We need more people like Macklemore and other artists who have a voice, who have a public platform, to be able to speak on behalf of the Palestinians, the Palestinian people and their struggle for liberation. I'm in solidarity with the Palestinian people. I certainly know, as a black man in America, how it feels to be oppressed. And genocide is wrong, and people have to have the courage from all walks of life to stand up and speak out against it. Our correspondent Carl Nassman spoke to me from outside the venue. We were in some of the first rows of the concert tonight, and everybody was waiting to hear how Ed Sheeran, whether Ed Sheeran would address the controversy of the past few days. Ed Sheeran has been on the stage for a few weeks on this tour, and it was really the first thing he did. He walked out on stage by himself, and he starts to talk everyone through what he's been thinking. And you could hear the room went silent. The stadium was really rapt, and paying attention to every word he said. And it seemed to go down very well. I think a lot of people were relieved that he came out, spoke what had been on his mind, and especially, you know, addressing the situation in the Middle East, addressing the situation with the rapper Macklemore being dropped from his tour. I should say, you know, the biggest, I think, applause and reaction to this speech was when he said that he was determined to continue his tour. He wanted to come tonight and play for all these fans, even though he said, you know, he had no backing band, he had no warm-up acts, but he was committed to continuing this tour because he said, you know, he was there really to perform for his tens of thousands of fans tonight. So Ed Sheeran was standing alone on stage. We were expecting a very stripped-back show. What was it like? Yeah, it was. I think one of those kinds of shows that really demonstrates how talented Ed Sheeran is as an artist. He was just there with him and his guitar, and he was using one of these loop machines where he can play a few chords, record that, play another few chords, record a bit of vocalization, and he loops it, and he loops it, and he's able to make that into this rich, amazing backing track that he then would perform, I think, maybe his first five or six songs that way. And then in the middle of the concert, there was a bit of a surprise. He said, you know, he had. He had about three days to come up with a backing band that could make it to Philadelphia, that could learn the songs he wanted to perform, because he really emphasized, you know, he didn't want this concert to change too much for the people that paid to get into the venue. And he was able to dig up some friends of his that could play the drums, play the fiddle, play the guitar, and really be there to create this amazing atmosphere. So, you know, it was really a fun night. And there was actually this one emotional moment midway through the concert where he said, Hey, I don't know. You've been looking recently at social media, but there's been a lot of chatter about me and about this concert. I was worried, he said, about the way that I might be received here by you. And that was when the entire stadium erupted into applause for, you know, really to support Ed Sheeran in that moment. And I think that kind of shows you. I think there have been some doubts about Ed Sheeran, maybe, you know, the way that he handled this, and he admitted that he made mistakes. But clearly, he really had the support of that stadium tonight. So, Carl, what's your sense of. Will this statement on stage have made any difference? Will this issue go away for Ed Sheeran? I think we'll have to see how it plays out, especially next week, because he will be performing in Gillette Stadium, the owner of which, Robert Kraft, was reportedly one of the biggest factors in trying to get Macklemore dropped from this tour. So I think it will be interesting to see next week how he's received there, which is a stadium just outside of Boston. But overall, this may have put some of the doubts, I think he might have said just enough to keep himself kind of above the issue of the war in Gaza, but I think those comments probably strong enough for those who might have wanted him to come out with a stronger stance when this whole controversy first started. Carl Nassman in Philadelphia. Let's focus now on what's happening inside Gaza. For the first time since the Hamas attacks on Israel sparked the devastating war, half a million children in Gaza are returning, to formal education with the start of the academic school year. That's happening even though the UN says 97% of schools in the Palestinian territory are damaged or destroyed. Jacob Evans reports. The first day back at school can be a nerve-wracking moment. For young Muwayed Abu Mustafa, it's a feeling of excitement instead. The last time I've been to school was three years ago. Now we're starting the school. It's a school year, it's a year for joy, happiness and success. Gaza's health ministry says 22,000 children have been killed by Israel since the war began. Countless more have been injured and traumatised. Children like Muwayed. We've lost our friends during the war. We're here alone. We don't have good clothes, we have nothing, not even good shoes. The stationery before the war was cheap, now it's expensive. We don't have notebooks or pencils. And despite all this, we will learn. We will learn even in a tent. There have been some temporary, long-term learning spaces run by various agencies in the last few years. But now, by working alongside the UN, the education ministry has been able to open about 700 education facilities across Gaza as part of the plan to get formal schooling back underway. Pictures online show children sat on bare floors inside tents. Others show pupils sat in the remnants of schools, chalkboards peppered with gunfire. However, despite a ceasefire being implemented last year, the fighting in Gaza is not over. Om Jibril Hamida fears for her kids. We want our children to live like the other children in the world. It's a long way to school, and in the past we had transport. But now there is none to ensure my son's safety. When he leaves, I ask God to keep him safe. I'm afraid because the war is not over yet, and there are still people being targeted. Which means my son and daughter can be hit by shrapnel on their way to school. Her fears are not without precedent. On Saturday, at least three people were reportedly killed in the latest Israeli attacks, including a 10-year-old girl who was shot. There's been no reply from Israel. Jacob Evans. Saudi Arabia is one of the richest and most powerful countries in the Middle East. And yet, on Saturday, an area near the capital's international airport was hit in a drone strike. Images from Riyadh showed a black tower of smoke rising into the sky after an oil depot appeared to have been targeted. Other strikes hit the Saudi Red Sea city of Yambol. Yemen's Houthi rebels have already, He claimed. responsibility for those attacks, marking a major uptick in the Houthi pressure on the Saudis. The Houthis are already blockading a key Red Sea shipping route for Saudi oil and hitting Saudi oil facilities with drones and missiles. Globally, the Houthis' growing assertiveness could have an impact on the prices we all pay for oil and gas. And inside Saudi Arabia, the conflict is being felt too. Saturday's strikes marked the first time since the recent escalation that the city's residents have received an alert on their phones urging them to stay indoors. James Kamarasami heard more from Aziz Algashian from the Gulf International Forum. He's in Riyadh. I think there was an attempt by the Houthis to really strike at the airport. And, you know, many people have been discussing that there were alarms going off on their phones. And that's something that's happening here. And basically, these alarms are to make sure that we have to take some safe refuge. I think for the people in the south of Saudi and places that we would call Abha, Khamis Mashir, and Asir, and Najran, these are the places that are really close to the Yemeni border, close to the Houthi strongholds. They receive it far more there. However, I think for Riyadh, the last time something like this happened was actually when the Iran-U.S. war was still in its full swing. And so that was a few months ago. That was maybe in April. I remember it very vividly in March and Ramadan, when the phones were going off. But, you know, it's rare, I think, for Saudis to have it and people here living in Riyadh. It was concerning. A sort of wake-up call for the people of Riyadh, that things are going in potentially in a bad direction? Before the ceasefire that happened, that took place in 2022, in 2021, I remember vividly also hearing loud explosions. But since then, I think the Saudi authorities took it upon themselves to install alarms and early warning systems for citizens and people living here. I would say the wake-up call is literally a wake-up call, because it did wake us up around 3, 4 in the morning. And it just reminds everyone that there is a situation that's happening. It's also worth noting that Riyadh is actually very, very big. You know, it is a huge city. So while people may hear it in one place, they may not hear the explosions and see the remnants of these explosions in other places. So the Saudi social media, the official accounts keep indicating time and again that, you know, giving these warnings and saying, hey, there are these warnings that are happening. So I have to say there are these reminders. But it's a reminder that there is a simmering situation. Situation is under control. That's what they're trying to communicate. You're about to take a flight. How do you feel about taking a flight from Riyadh International Airport? I feel confident because I think, you know, if I was closer to the border, I would be more concerned. Moreover, I think because I am a traveller and a researcher. And so I think being stuck in airports due to conflicts, you know, something I'm kind of a little bit used to. So I think I'm a little bit apprehensive and hopefully that this won't be something more than just a delay. But in my opinion right now, I think because we are in Riyadh, we are really literally in the heart of Saudi Arabia. I'm feeling more confident than apprehensive. Diplomacy in the region. Are the Saudi authorities speaking directly to the Iranians who back the Houthis and telling them to back off, you know, telling them this is unacceptable? They are. And that's why the Saudi diplomatic channels and the bilateral relationship has not been severed during the war. While we have our diplomatic channels with them, we are also using and trying to leverage the diplomatic channels that we have with both China and Pakistan, our new ally, in order for them to begin to influence upon or encourage Iran to rain down the Houthis. Aziz Algashian. Staying with this story, these latest attacks are likely to increase pressure on the United States to intervene more directly against the Houthis. John Svakianakis is chief economist at the Gulf Research Centre in Riyadh. He says the current escalation is clearly destabilizing the region. It's damaging for everybody, and nobody is spared from this. The UAE in the past was attacked Qatar, we've seen Kuwait, and of course, Saudi Arabia now. And of course, something has to be done. And here we need to have both the Gulf countries supporting Saudi Arabia, but also the US needs to step in and needs to take a more active role as it has distanced itself. Because it's critical for oil prices, and the freedom of navigation, which is so important. Now we have both straits under some kind of closure, and it's quite difficult to get product oil out. That is quite critical because it is four to 5% of global oil that we're seeing being taken off, and there is no additional 5% or 5 million barrels being taken back in by any of the countries. And oil is at $103, $104 a barrel. It could easily go $130, $140 if it is not addressed. The US has to step in. John Svakianakis in Riyadh. As men get older, many of them start seeing a gradual loss of the Y chromosome in some of their body tissue. Until a few years ago, it was thought that this was a harmless side effect of aging. But new research suggests that this process can increase the risk of cancer. American scientists have found evidence that Y chromosome loss was greatest in the areas around tumors. Mark Jobling is at England's Leicester University. He told us more about the study. The Y chromosome is sex determining. So what that means is when an embryo is developing, if it has a Y chromosome, then it will become a male. And if it doesn't, then it will become a female. When cells divide, they have to carry out a kind of complex dance of the chromosomes to make sure that the two daughter cells inherit the right numbers of chromosomes. And sometimes that goes wrong. And it goes increasingly wrong as we age. The Y chromosome is actually the smallest chromosome we have, and that may make it more vulnerable to this kind of problem. So in the general population, about 40% of men over 70 show this phenomenon. And it's not all the cells in the body that lose the Y chromosome. It's a proportion, and that proportion will vary. That loss is associated with a wide range of cancers, not just male specific cancers, but these are the cancers that affect both men and women. It seems that men who have loss of Y chromosome, their tumours may be differently sensitive to certain chemotherapeutic drugs and to radiotherapy. So it could be in the future that if a man has loss of Y chromosome, then he may be treated slightly differently. It's rather early days in that though. Professor Mark Jopling. Still to come in this podcast. It essentially used publicly available information to kind of guess at credentials, including in one case, a password. 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My mother's scared, my granny, everyone, every woman in our lives, they're all thinking of this anxiousness of why are we even here? We need active policing. We need patrolling. We need visibility with police. I think as men across the country, let's call it out when we see it. Let's do our part in what I call country duty. Let's not condone these type of things and think that it doesn't affect us. It does. Janat Jalil spoke to our correspondent in Johannesburg, Pumza Falani. Some of the sentiments that you heard expressed there, in fact, I've heard repeated over the last few days in various communities that I've visited. The main thing that people don't understand is that they don't know what's going on. They don't know what people are calling for. They're saying that it cannot be business as usual in South Africa. All too often, they say we are in these heightened moments where there are spates of killings and there seems to be an upsurge of interest. 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And I think that's a very important. that some men in South Africa hold towards women. And they are saying that the manifestation of that violence is what we are seeing here and repeatedly whenever there are cases of sexual violence against women, and in worst cases, murder. Pumza Falani. Germany is holding two state elections this weekend. Normally, such votes don't generate much interest outside the country's borders. But that's not the case this time. This is part of the reason why. That was the scene two weeks ago in the eastern German state of Saxony and Halt, where the far right Alternative für Deutschland, or AFD party, recorded its best ever result, but without winning an absolute majority. Now, all eyes are on the AFD to see if it can continue its political rise in this weekend's elections. And that could further increase the pressure on Germany's highly unpopular leader, Friedrich Merz, to stand aside for someone who can revive the fortunes of his once dominant CDU party, especially if the CDU fails to reach the minimum 5% threshold in one of the states. Jessica Parker is our Berlin correspondent. Chancellor Friedrich Merz has cancelled a trip to the UN General Assembly in New York that was due to happen early next week. And that's widely being read as a signal that the German government is going to have to step up. So we're going to have to wait and see how seriously him and his team is taking it, although they didn't say exactly why he cancelled it, except to say that his presence was required in Berlin. We have seen over the last couple of days, eight state premiers from the CDU come out in support of Chancellor Friedrich Merz, although some felt the letter that they issued was rather lukewarm. But there is these endless rumours swirling, and they have been for months, but they've really ratcheted up at this idea of a Chancellor swap, because Friedrich Merz increasingly has been seen as something of an electoral liability for the CDU. He is certainly not being put front and centre for the campaigns in Berlin and Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. Friedrich Merz talked about trying to take the fight to Alternative for Deutschland with good, competent government. Famously, once upon a time, a long time ago, he talked about even halving their votes. The opposite has happened, and the AFD is surging in support. That's seen as a big problem, that he's failed to take on Alternative for Deutschland. Seen as a big problem within his own party, his communication style often comes under a lot of scrutiny as well. People see him as abrasive, somewhat gaffe-prone. And look, I have met plenty of people in Germany who are none too fond of Friedrich Merz, and his personal approval ratings are very low. He's also trying to push forward with a bunch of reforms, some of which are very unpopular or have been criticised around, for example, pensions. He himself has kind of seemed to concede that his government needs to communicate better with people. But he is a man now who I think it's being seen that this weekend is potentially somewhat make or break for him. Jessica Parker in Berlin. Google has confirmed that its artificial intelligence system, Gemini, broke out of a testing environment and hacked into three companies in May. It's the latest such incident, raising concerns that AI organisations may not be able to keep their systems under control. Our business correspondent, Megan Owen, is following developments. This happened back in May. When Gemini was undergoing cybersecurity testing by an independent company. And according to Google, it essentially used publicly available information to kind of guess at credentials, including, in one case, a password, to hack into some websites that it thought were part of the testing, but they actually weren't. Now, Google says it did stop. It's informed the companies that they were hacked during this testing, and it's now working to kind of change. It's training in accordance. But it also says that this highlights the importance of training AI and its models to operate responsibly. In the past few months, we've seen similar incidents. For example, back in July, Anthropix Claude said that it had kind of broken out of its test environment by somehow connecting to the internet when it was meant to be in a kind of isolated situation. At a similar time, OpenAI said that one of its models during a test had carried out cyber attacks against several publicly available companies. And what's interesting is the company said that it had operated in a kind of superhuman way. So it was making mistakes and decisions that no human hacker would have been able to make. Megan Owen. We end with a new documentary called The Oldest Person in the World, which explores aging, longevity, and mortality. It follows the journey of Sam Green, a New York-based filmmaker, and his decade-long journey, as he means. He meets various people bestowed with the oldest living person title. The BBC's Tom Brook went to meet him. I know this might sound weird, but I've been obsessed with the oldest person in the world for years. Meet adventurous Brooklyn-based Oscar-nominated filmmaker Sam Green. Since 2015, he's been traveling the world, chronicling the forever-changing holders of the title of oldest person in the world. His survey has included Kanae Tanaka, in Japan, who held the title for four years. And then there's the oldest person ever, France's Jean Calment, who, when she died in 1997, was 122 years old. In her later years, she recorded a rap album. Sam Green's investigation of these very senior citizens has become a lifelong project. A documentary based on his survey so far has just been released. He's long been fascinated by why the news media and the public are so interested in the title holder of the oldest person in the world. To this day, I still don't fully understand it. Is this a fear of death? Is this a fear of fate or, you know, one of those things like with a car crash where you can't look away but you don't want to look at it? In making his documentary, Sam Green found there was nearly always a desire on the part of others to find out if there's a secret to longevity. The elderly people he observed had all kinds of answers for why they'd led a long life. One woman stated she'd lived for a long time because she'd stayed away from men. She also said her secret was eating three raw eggs a day, too. You know, so it's like the media descends on these people. Everybody asks them what their secret is and they say something and everybody runs with that. This documentary often shows that other people, the outside world, is often much more intrigued by the oldest person in the world than the subjects who hold that title. But this film isn't just about the very old. It's also about life and death and events in the filmmaker's own life, the birth of a son, and his own confrontation with a life-threatening illness. These things started to creep into the movie, so over time it becomes a larger meditation, I hope, about time and the mysteries of being alive and fate and all these big questions that we ask ourselves. The last person I interviewed, a Spanish woman named Maria Brañas, she was very funny. She even was making fun of me, which I love. But at a moment in the interview she said, Man. You're young. But I'm so jobless. Now is the time to do good works. What she was saying is, you're young and you have time, so use it. And I think that's a beautiful thing to appreciate. Over the last ten years, Sam Green has met many of those who've held the title of oldest person in the world. But there's been one holdout, the current title holder, 117-year-old Ethel Caterham, who lives in Surrey, just outside London. She was. She was born in Edwardian times. She is the first person in ten years who has rebuffed my overtures. But she did let King Charles visit her, didn't she? I know. I saw a video of her and King Charles and I thought, Charles? Not me? You know, she is British. She's the last Edwardian. So I guess she feels some allegiance to the king. But, you know, come on, I've been doing this for ten years. Even though this documentary focuses on the very old, very fragile, it makes the point that there is much to learn from observing them and from the filmmaker himself about what it means to live a thoughtful life. It is an unexpectedly life-affirming film. Tom Brook. And that's all from us for now. If you want to get in touch, you can email us at globalpodcast at bbc.co.uk. You can also find us on X at BBC World Service. Use the hashtag Global News Pod. This edition was mixed by Chris Ablakwa and the producer was Stephen Yensen. The editor is Karen Martin. I'm Celia Hatton. Until next time, goodbye.