Ed Sheeran, Eyes Wide Shut DRAMA, Strange Trump Email & Butler COVERUP | Julian Dorey

(dramatic music) - What's up everybody and welcome back to another episode of The Julian Dory Podcast. I am Julian Dory. - And I'm Joey Dief, how you doing? - How you doing? - Good early week in Dallas, Joey Dief. That was a productive trip for the team, huh? - It sure was. It was good to be back in Dallas. - Oh yeah, you were, you were a local. - Bad, not a local, but a frequent visitor. - Frequent visitor. - Yeah, he was down there. - Yeah. - Very, I do have to say Joey Dief had a great recommendation on stake down in Dallas, shout out to Nick and Sam's, fucking amazing place. If you've never been down there, that is a real treat. And good stuff, Joey Dief. - Like Matt James said, a true Dallas institution. - That's right. - Through and through. - Yeah, so we were down there seeing Ben and Matt from Colossal. Obviously they were on the show back in episode 297, and I think that was April 2025. But Colossal is the company that's kinda like, it came up controversially in the sense that people were like, "All right, where are they going with this?" They are the de-extinction company. They are trying to bring back extinct species. They brought back a genetically modified version of what looks like a dire wolf that's certainly a start. Back in 2024, they brought that back. And it was announced in 2025. And they're really working to bring back a woolly mammoth. And you know, there's people there like, "Why the fuck are you playing with evolution?" And all that, the interesting part about it is that from a conservation perspective, the way that they're doing this through AI and CRISPR and all that, which certainly doesn't sound suspicious at all. - Yeah, CRISPR. - Nothing can go wrong. - Yeah, CRISPR. - But in all fairness, the way that they're doing it allows them to test for basically genetic enhancements that could help solve the problems for current species. So like, as an example, a woolly mammoth, I forget what the percentage is, but there's a strong percentage DNA correlation with elephants. And so when they are testing as they're trying to build a woolly mammoth by 2030 or 2031, when they're testing in the lab, they may be able to create something in their tests that allows them to solve the elephant herpes problem. There's a famous disease, I forget what it's called, but it's effectively elephant herpes that kills something around 20% of elephants. And in creating a woolly mammoth, they may be able to solve that and stop that 20% from dying. So applications like that are really cool. That all aside, we had a great time down there for a couple days, got the tour of the lab and everything and really cool stuff, hopefully. - I even did some good work in the lab, if you remember. - You did do some good work in the lab. Joey Deef printed, what was it, a million genetic codes in my life? - I gave a small electrical shock to 100 million cells. - That's right, and there was a lot of work that went in that. You had to put it in the tray and then they're like the button right down on the lower right side, hit that. And I've hit it like immediately. Like she said it and within 1.5 seconds, you hit it. Trey came out on the other side, one million cells courtesy of Joey Deef. So you might have made the first fucking woolly mammoth and we'll just never know it. - Well, I just know whatever they say they've done next. I'm just gonna say I worked on that project. - That's right, he did work on that project. But there was another, how do we put this? Another incident that happened while we were down there. So, hey guys, if you're not following me on Spotify, please hit that follow button and leave a five-star review. They're both a huge, huge help, thank you. - There was a conference going on as well that Colossal put on for the Colossal Conservation Foundation, run by our friend Matt James, who is their chief animal officer. So Matt comes from working with animals his whole life, really good guy. And is overseeing everything, all the treatment of the animals that they're looking to create and obviously conservation efforts that they're looking to help with. So he oversees this foundation. And one of the days there was like a full conference and panel discussion going on with a lot of attendees. So it was in Gilles in Dallas, which is a bar, which is like this really cool place. It's like a big barn. And so we get there about five minutes late, 'cause it was an all day thing. And they had upstairs, they had a stage and a bunch of chairs out in order for people to sit and watch this conference and all the panels happen throughout the day. So as we file in, we have the whole team down there, obviously me, you, Alessie, Danny Gonzalez, Amanda. And so the five of us go to the back of, I don't know, like the auditorium, if you will. - Yeah, yeah. - And we're looking out on where the stage is, starting to watch it, and Deep, as we know, is making a movie right now that he wrote, and you wrote it, you're gonna be running the production. We got the finance and ready to go. We got the shoot schedule ready to go, and you're the star in it. Shout out Joey Deaf, Billy, Benny, and Dean coming to a screen near you probably next year. But, you know, obviously this people, you got to hire, right, Joe? - Absolutely. - Lot of different jobs. - A lot of different jobs. - You need producers, you need directors. You need assistant directors, more on that in a minute. - Yep. - You need line producers. - Yep. - You need actors. - Actors. - Right. - All of it. Director of photography, sound, it never ends. - Yes. So I've been watching Joey Deaf go through this process, helping out wherever I can. And so we knew, when we were going to this conference, that Deep was gonna have a couple meetings in the morning. So right when we got in there, he's like, all right, I got one in about 10 minutes, and I gotta start getting ready for that. So he finds right next to us, where we're standing in the back of the room, Deaf finds these two little love seats that are just like randomly right there. I'm not sure what they were doing there. He's like, oh, I'm just gonna pop down right here. So he pops down, throws in the air pods, and he's getting the zoom setup. When all of a sudden a rather disheveled looking guy in a Hawaiian shirt and shorts that, you know, fashion is fashion, there were a little short. - Yeah, yeah. - They were a little short. Starts like almost like he's about to pass out, like knocked out by a tranquilizer dart. Starts sauntering over directly for the love seat in front of Deaf. And it's gonna be hard for me to describe this on camera. But as he gets to the love seat, he does like a 180 where his arms almost don't move. And there's like a split moment where he, Deaf is now behind him, where the guy is staring directly at the stage at Matt James, who's hosting the panel. And then proceeds to fall back almost like a zombie. I don't even think his arms caught him. Into the chair and hit it like this. And fall asleep immediately. His head, he was asleep on that chair almost before his head actually hit it. At which point, me and Danny G start going like this. It's like, I can't believe this is happening right now. Fuck is this guy. And we look right at Deaf. If you know Joey Deaf at all, I mean this in a really good way. When there's social decorum that's not up to standard, he gets very, very pretentious. I'm a classy guy. He's a very classy guy. And so Joey Deaf is sitting there, getting ready for his zoom meeting where he's gonna be hopefully hiring an assistant director for his feature film. And he just looks quietly at the guy sleeping in front of him, holds his hand up and turns to us. He goes, Miles, you believe this fucking guy? You believe this guy? Now at this point, I had my phone and the 15 year old, angsty teenage girl in me, if that is such a thing, wanted to take the side shot. I mean, it was such a good shot. Even like just the dichotomy of having Deaf behind this dude who was just knocked out, hands on the stomach, completely drunken away from the world. So it seemed I'm like, that's an amazing shot. And I was like, you know what? Julian, let's be an adult, be an adult. Let's not do that. So about two minutes later, Deaf gets up and as he's walking by us to go outside to take the meeting. Again, he like walks right up towards me, obviously we're being quiet 'cause people are talking on stage and he looks around and goes, "I believe this fucking guy, I'm like I know, I know." So Deaf walks out, takes the meeting. Fast forward three hours later. The five of us are back in Ben's makeship office with Ben and Matt who run this company. Meeting with them, going over some stuff, some different ideas, going back and forth on some people, we can connect with. And Ben's talking about like some guests. Maybe I could get on the show at one point that I was interested in and I was like, cool. And he's like, did you talk to Peter? And I go, Peter, he goes, "Yeah, he's sleeping on the chair on the love seat and Deaf is sitting to my left. I'm facing Ben right here." And Deaf goes, "Oh God, that guy." And I'm like, who's Peter? He goes, Peter Jackson. He directed the Lord of the Rings. This is one of the top five fucking directors of all time and Joey Deaf is sitting there preparing to hire his fucking assistant director, freaking out that the guy is asleep and disrespecting the conference, turns out he was jet lagged. He had a perfect dog excuse for it. He's like, do you believe this fucking guy? And he was sitting in front of one of the greatest directors to ever live who's worth like $2.6 billion as a result of his film. So, yeah. Well, never judge a book by its coverage, Joey Deaf. He was also wearing a shirt that said, keep calm and catch the flu. I got a real kick out of that one. That's right. That's right. Yeah, missed opportunity. Missed him. Listen, maybe he's looking for work. You do have the connection now with Ben. Mr. Peter Jackson, this is a micro budget. So, I hope you're okay with taking a pay cut of about 98%. I think it's more than 98, but yeah. I wonder how much he would warm up to the idea of being assistant director to deal with. He wouldn't. Yeah, no, he wouldn't. but really obviously interesting guy for sure and like I said, said he we we found out later he had literally just gotten off a flight from New Zealand. Yeah, so he and and three other guys they were like they were really trooping it through the whole thing. So shout out to the great director, but I just thought the symbolism there. It wasn't lost on. Yeah, it was good. But other than that, great trip. Look forward to doing stuff like that again. Hopefully as we vote as will we say when we're around them, Ben and Matt stay within the lines. Yep. Come on, fellas. We're counting on you. Yeah, we took Matt out the dinner on Monday night deal. We were telling him over some drinks like listen, listen, this could go one way. Don't go. I've seen Jurassic Park, bro. Don't do it. Don't do it. But anyway, I did say last week that we were going to get to my conversation with Vivian Kubrick. So we are definitely doing that today that's Stanley Kubrick's daughter who just as a rehash if you haven't seen some recent episodes, there was an episode a few weeks ago where I talked about some of the eyes wide shut theories, which was the movie Stanley Kubrick made in 1999 that he died before it was actually released and obviously had a lot of crazy symbolism that seemed to point to things like Epstein many, many years before we actually found out about that and people have theories about some of the cuts and whether or not things that he would have had in the movie were removed by the studio after his death, et cetera. So we talked about all that and then Vivian Kubrick publicly responded and tagged me where she actually pushed back on some of the quote unquote missing cut evidence and then I responded to that because it was especially coming from her where she's like a very conspiracy minded person if you will. I thought that was interesting and it was at a point in her life where there was some evidence that maybe she didn't have a relationship with her father at the time towards the end of his life because of some other stuff which we did cover as well. But as a result of me then responding to that then she reached out directly to me and I had it back and forth conversation with her. So I'm going to get to that in a couple minutes and I'll I got her permission to read pretty much all of what she said there was one side area where she and I were talking about something else that was that was private but it's not related to the story. So we're not going to read that but everything else that she put will go through that and respond to that but Joey Deef some justice happened this week. Oh wait really that still exists depends how you define justice. There was a 41 to zero vote of some panel of kind I think it was 41 to zero unanimous. Yeah we're going to pull up the article but they held Leon Black in contempt from the AP. This is on September 16th. Households billionaire Leon Black in contempt of Congress over Epstein investigation. The long dicked justice is fine in his way to hold Uncle Leon. It's not but yeah so the House approved a resolution resolution. House approved a resolution Wednesday holding billionaire Leon Black in contempt of Congress referring the matter to the Department of Justice after he defied the oversight committee subpoenas in its investigation into disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein. The action was swift and without a formal vote and now leaves it to the justice department to decide whether to seek criminal prosecution. You think Todd Blanchett and Justice Department going charge this guy Joey Deef? I think they're going to do a very stellar investigation. I think so too. Yeah. I think they're going to throw the book out of action. That's worth my tax dollars. I say that. Very worth my tax dollars. Use whatever you want and I'm sure there's going to be a lot of charges and major news stories to come from this and you know a very hoopla followed trial publicly right totally. Yeah that'll happen. So Republicans and Democrats from the oversight committee joined in a bipartisan effort to advance the resolution forward. No one is above the law. Rep James Comer Republican from Kentucky the oversight committee chairman said in a statement. No one except everyone on the Epstein list apparently. We will continue to seek transparency for the American people and justice for survivors in our investigation of the federal government's handling of the Jeffrey Epstein and Gillen Maxwell criminal cases. California rep Robert Garcia the panel's top Democrat called the vote an important step towards justice and accountability. Where have I heard that one before? Hell yeah. Blacks lawyers have denounced the oversight committee's pursuit of the former head of private equity firm as an abuse of congressional power. They said it had no knowledge of any of Epstein's. He had no knowledge of any of Epstein's heinous conduct. I remind you he got breakfast with Jeffrey Epstein seemingly almost every day. Maybe not every day, Joey. But he got it quite often. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure they just discussed business and read the Wall Street Journal, right? Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. So and he paid him. What was it? $180 million something like that. Something like that. Yeah. New nothing. And and like after after he had been convicted. Yes. That was all after he was convicted. Yeah. But again, he didn't think it was that bad. Yeah. He's like, let's say yeah. He paid for a hooker. He's like, we can forget that. Right. That's not good. But it's not heinous. It's not heinous. It's not bad enough that I would stop associating with it. I beingly on black. This is just what he's saying. Not saying. We agree with that judgment. But you know, what did he say, Joey? The hindsight's 2020 something like that. Yeah. What's better than 2020? 40 20 or 20 40? No, it's 2020 is perfect. Yeah. But isn't there like a higher degree? Maybe I'm fucked though. No, no, you're fucked. There's nothing. I'm fucked. These drunk folks. I'm whatever. It's been a long day. We just recorded one right before this. So you got a bear with me. But there was another. I'm just thinking of this right now. This popped in under the radar of something else that I, I can't remember. Leon did? Yeah. Well, actually, hold on. There were two things here. Okay. Number one, this story's coming in while everyone's fighting over fucking Robert Kraft and Macklemore and Ed Sheeran. Yeah, very true. Okay. Which we'll still talk about of course. But again, popcorn for the masses in so many ways. Yeah. Obviously, Robert Kraft's in the wrong here and we'll go through it. It is meaningless in moving the needle technically anywhere. That said, the other thing that happened that we'll talk about in a minute is Congress just they're leaving DC? You see this? No. Yeah, they're just cutting it to the midterms. So they do this little thing like, hurrah! We're going to give it to the justice department. By the way, we're leaving works. Some are vacation. That's right. And by the way, who's going to lose the midterms? Obviously, the Republicans because people aren't happy with that. So I don't even know the legality of this, Joey. If this is pure speck on my part, maybe my congressional lawyers out there can help in the comment section. But if they do lose, does that mean that like James Comer becomes the minority leader on this panel? Because obviously, that would mean Mike Johnson's not Speaker of the House. So does it apply to the panel like this as well? Yeah. I'm more, I'm more well versed in bird law. I can't keep up with this. We're talking about the Molo with Peter Jackson. Yeah. Yeah. Peter. Right. Oh, my first name base is on. Yeah, I call him Pete actually. Yeah. Yeah. Miss understanding. Yeah, exactly. Got you. But no, I mean, that sounds right. If I had to be a betting man, it does be a minority leader. It does sadly sound right. But continuing this AP article, black is the latest among several prominent figures, including Bill Clinton and Bill Gates, who have been asked to appear as part of the oversight committee's long running probe of Epstein. By the way, Joy Defe, whatever came of Bill Gates's testimony on that, I think nothing. Yeah. Yeah. Nothing hogwash. We did see Bill Clinton reminiscing on better times. Yeah. We did get that image. Yeah. That was worth something. Definitely. He's like, oh, man, I remember that. She's like, give me that. She's like, all right, she's like, reaching are enough enough cameras on you. The camera is literally on you. I like it, though. Anyway, laughs aside, survivors of Epstein's alleged sexual abuse have told personal stories of being young women in a traffic enterprise organized by Epstein's colleague, Mack, Maxwell. And this is what happened. This is the review. Obviously, we have continued to cover this on the show and we will. It's fuck Leon Black yesterday today and every day moving forward. But Leon Black, we covered it at the time first appeared before this congressional committee, yep, for about an hour in June. It wasn't videotape, which is already like what the fuck are we doing? And he stormed out. He stormed out because he didn't want to share these NDAs and they were like, well, we're now you're going to come back on July 16th and we're going to video you. And so July 16th comes. In fact, before July 16th, there's an agreement somewhere in the area of July 14th, quietly, very quietly. The Leon Black was going to delay his testimony to Thursday, June 3rd, right before Labor Day weekend. But he was going to do it and he was going to share some of these NDAs. Then Thursday, June 3rd comes and really under the radar. In fact, if you remember our episode a couple weeks ago, we literally missed it until half hour or less, maybe five minutes. September 3rd. Yeah. Yeah. I think we went on air on the fourth. Thank God I found it. And I almost forgot about it. I almost fell in my own trap. But we covered it. He very quietly sued Congress, didn't get a lot of coverage, had a Labor Day weekend, dumped it in the news cycle and said, not only am I not appearing, I'm suing you. And I'm not sharing any NDAs and why Joey Dief? Well, he was protecting the victims. Yeah. That's what Leon Black's whole life has been about. - Yeah. - These poor women and children have been victimized by terrible people, definitely not him. Definitely not Lee. Uncle Leon would never, right Joey Deif? - No, he's clean cut. - He's clean cut. So all these innocent victims of whom he apparently paid millions of dollars so they would be quiet. Again, perspective, did nothing to him. His claim apparently did nothing to them. He is now looking out for them because they did not agree to their privacy being violated by the Congressional panel that was going to review their NDAs. And presumably by the way, I assume again, maybe my congressional lawyer experts can help me with this, not have their names released this time by the Congressional people. They would just be able to review the NDAs for pertinent information for their Epstein investigation. Leon Black can't have that though. - No, you gotta protect. Can't have it. And this is the guy, even his own company that he founded Apollo as we've also covered. They did a probe of this. It was like an inside job probe. We covered that in a full episode about how much of an inside job that was, that still was like, yo, does motherfucker pay them between 2012 and 2017 him being Epstein and the motherfucker who paid him being Leon Black under $18 million for state planning and it was like, look and do good. I don't know what it's gonna take. I don't know what it's gonna take for people like this to even before the justice, looking at Utah Blanche 'cause apparently bulls in your court, pal. You know, I got no faith in that. But even before the justice part, which everyone out there not only has a right to ask for it, we have an obligation to ask for that. I would just hope that someone like this would have their influence removed, but you can't even get that. You can't even get that. Now I'd, you know, it'll be curious to see if there's like public reviews of him still donating in like the midterm cycle to both parties. - I'm sure there will be. - Like guys like this always do. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And it's like just business carrying on as usual. - Yeah, gotta keep the thing going. Too deep in. - Yeah. - Now, you know, we were talking with Neema Parvini today and that podcast will come out in a few weeks. He's in town talking about just the strange, like philosophical, really smart guy, but talking about the strange mental jujitsu that people will do to stick to the one or two guns they care about, which it was cool to hear someone smart. Way smarter than they break that down, 'cause that's something I'm always like fascinated by. And he laid it out in really smart people philosophical terms. But, you know, there's no greater example of what's happened with that than watching people still cling to the things that Trump will do that will not only go against his direct campaign promises over and over again, but also do things that are bipartisan, disliked. Like not things that like the left is ragging on people in his own tent to their credit. A lot of people are also leaving that tent from what I can see. You know, who were like, yeah, let's not go to war with Iran. Trump's like, yeah, let's not do that. Then he did it and they're like, fuck that. Yeah, let's release the Epstein files. Trump, yeah, let's release it. Then he doesn't do it. He's like, covering up for his friends. Direct quote apparently to Marjorie Taylor Green. You know, people look at that and they go, this is kind of interesting. But the history with Epstein and Trump as we've reported many times is odd, strange, murky, and in some cases suspicious for sure. In other cases, there's things where, you know, Trump kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago and stuff like that where it's like, okay, that's good. But like, he knew him for a very long time and it's a sitting president and it's worth very much worth. Very important to continue to looking at that as we find things here. But there was an email in the files that Jeffrey Epstein originally wrote to himself and then forwarded to the author Michael Wolfe in February 2019. So Michael Wolfe, he was the guy that wrote the original book in 2017, I think, like the first book written about the first Trump administration where you got this unprecedented access. I always thought it was very strange that the boogeyman through his own extensive words in the book was Steve Bannon, who in 2017 until August that year was the White House advisor, right? Literally working nice to Trump. When Steve Bannon is supposedly this hardcore right wing guy who thought the whole liberal media establishment was like, you know, a literal living demon or whatever. And yet he gave full recorded access to Michael Wolfe to write about him while he was actively in the Trump administration. That never squared with me. And then once Michael Wolfe had crucified Steve Bannon, the Epstein files make clear that Steve Bannon remained friends with Michael Wolfe. Now I don't know about you, Joey Dief, but if someone recorded me, and then I, by the way, I got to take responsibility 'cause I said a lot of things that don't play well. But like if they recorded me and then painted me from all those fucking tens, hundreds of hours of recording, whatever it was, in the worst possible light, in an enormous book that was like a bombshell book at the time, the first of its kind about the administration that I'm working in. I feel like I probably wouldn't talk to that guy again, right? Yeah, no, I don't think you'd want to hang out with him much. I don't think I'd fucking get dunkin' with him. No, no. The only dunkin' I'm doin' is dunkin' his head in a mouth. That's what I'm sayin'. Goddamn right. That's right. On cap. On go. On go, on cap. That's right. See, I got it backwards, right? That's all right. We're learning. We're learning. We're learning. But not the case because Michael Wolfe is, I believe if I remember correctly, he is literally the guy you can see in the emails who, and in text, who originally was like the connect between Epstein and Bannon after this point. So, interesting that Epstein, as he did with many things apparently, is sending this formerly self email that he wrote, I guess earlier that day, to Michael Wolfe. Can you blow this up just a little bit deep? Yeah, let me actually, to make it even easier. That's what deep does. He makes things easier for us. We can digest it and get the information. We gotta do. This one on jmail.world as well. But this is where Jeffery Epstein is outlining like his own personal PR defense for his previous transgressions. And it gets interesting when you get to some of the details he decides to delve into jumping off this diving board, if you will. And I'm gonna read through some typos and stuff, which Jeffery Epstein loved to do, apparently. He was in all of his messages as best I can, but you're reading this as much as I can word for word. It says, "Prostitution is a state crime. Never before a man in his own house charged with soliciting. In Florida, first offenders are required to take a sex ed class and get pretrial diversion, no criminal record. There is a felony solicitation for the all caps, third offense. A grand jury was held, and they found me guilty of one count of felony solicitation because, and then dot, dot, dot, kind of, because there were many girls mandatory diversion sentence, a lot of exclamation points. A grand jury usually only for capital murder cases. He's playing the victim now. Recarry and writer at the police chief, I believe his name was, was it Scott writer? Who was the police chief in Palm Beach County? Shout out to that guy, he really tried. Pulled my garbage for months and surveilled the house, letting all the girls come and go, question mark. So he's like kind of admitting it right there. By the way, all the girls come and go. That sounds like more than one count of solicitation. I called the FBI. They did not like the grand jury result and released to the press the raw sewage of police interviews. He is now, and again, this is Jeffrey Epstein in his own words. So everything in fairness does have to be fact. I kind of interesting how open he is about, yeah, yeah, I caught up the pre-cash regime, right? And I said, listen, motherfucker. I don't know what this little copper outbacks doing, but you make this stop and they're like, yes, sir. Anyway, they did not like the grand jury result and released to the press the raw sewage of police interviews. IE, no girl was cross-examine all caps ever, unheard of. The girls re-entered the house multiple times, which means 12, 12-year-old, 13-year-old girls, which most of these are. That must mean that, you know, they're not innocent, right? Like according to Jeffrey Epstein, well, they came back to the house a bunch so how could they be a victim? Well, I don't know. Maybe because they're a fucking kid. Anyway, for $200, this is so blatant how he says this, dude, this is such like Boomer writing here. This is Boomer writing, but it's also admitting to all your crimes while you think you're defending yourself. The girls returned to the house multiple times for $200 for a rub-and-tug, no sex, some worked in the local massage parlors, most in their mid-20s, that's also not true. There is only press stories told my strippers of me, of me buying my girlfriend from Slovakia from her parents, which also was a real story. Girls under 15 all made up to get press. I think there were 48 of them, Joey Deef, verified, who went in there, whatever it was, they were all deleted from the final charges were agreed to, but that's, that's a complete lie. FBI puts a task force together titled Operation Leap Year to investigate my personal massage activity, question mark, exclamation point, nuts, interviews, my chiropractor, medical info, etc. And then here's where it gets interest, and it's already interesting, but it gets more interesting here. Redacted worked at Mar-a-Lago. It would appear he is referring to an underage victim here. It's blacked out and redacted. Trump knew of it and came to my house many times during that period. The testimony of the house man Juan Alessi confirmed it. That's the guy Juan Alessi I've talked about him a bunch on here, and the interview Tyra Pell Mary did with him in the presence of Virginia Robert Schufre, which obviously was quite fascinating. He never got a massage, referring to Trump. Abe Gossman, a friend of mine, ran into financial difficulty with assisted living homes. His home was listed of $45 million with no takers for months on end. He and I agreed to a price of 30 million. His wife redacted ends up going to jail for lying to the bankruptcy trustee about her jewelry. This is in the summer of '04. I became the stalking house bidder at $36 million. I.e. if someone bid higher, I would receive a fee. Trump buys the house at the telephone auction. Only me, Trump and his friend knew the developer. He quickly puts it on the market for $125 million. Serves the purpose of a justification for a high sale later and no one wants to touch it. It is bought in the name of Trump properties LLC. No idea who owns it or what else it owns. Three years later, oh wait, he sells it to ride boulev for approximately a hundred million. He should have had a 50 million plus capital gain. He tells people in press he spent 20 to 30 million on the fix up that would justify a reduction in capital gains, meaning he thinks Donald Trump is trying to get around capital gains. Wonder if Epstein's cooking on that. Listen, I don't like giving that guy any credit, but you wonder if that's a cook. It's on a brand. What's really interesting here though, and the reason I'm reading this, and there's a little more there, but like you get the picture, is we've talked in the past about the theories about why Trump and Epstein fell out eventually. And the narrative for a long time was that Jeffrey Epstein came on to like a 15 year old towel hand at Mar-a-Lago. It was reported to Trump and he banned him from Mar-a-Lago right then and there and said get the fuck out of my life, which would be W. Trump in that case. The other thing that it come up, and I believe it was attorney Brad Edwards, the attorney for the victims, he had said this on Tara Palmeri's podcast. The other thing that came up is when he interviewed Donald Trump in like, oh, wait, something like that, to discuss the case. And he did know Donald Trump was the only powerful guy that he reached out to who actually agreed to do it. I believe it was at that meeting where Trump mentioned they had a falling out over a real estate deal. So Trump, and his defense is actually the one in that case who did mention it. But the narrative over time was that it was cause, you know, Donald Trump was standing up for a young lady at Mar-a-Lago. Interesting that Jeffrey Epstein seems to be laying out the picture that it was probably a real estate deal that put them apart. So do with that what you will, but it comes down to they came apart if this narrative is to be believed is correct. And we now have some evidence from both sides on that. It appears both sides being Trump and Epstein. Yeah. It would paint the picture. They're rather than some moral high ground justification of I don't like pedals. It was actually just regular old to, you know, psychopathic businessman being pissed off going to each other on the deal, one one and the other lost. And the one who lost is just like, all right, I know what I'm going to do. He's touching kids. Well, he won. Trump won. Oh, sorry. I'd take it back, folks. Yeah. The other way around the other way around. We got to get it right. But point taken. Sorry. I'm cash pretailed right now. Don't worry. Very, very cash pretailed. And so it just, you know, when you see that that's a narrative that wasn't even when the press was going at Donald Trump like crazy in his first administration, objectively for things that he wasn't doing wrong in, in many cases, or just attacking him because he ate crackers instead of fucking bread or whatever it was. This was one story that they wouldn't go at hard despite the fact that the, the, the narrative included the fact that Donald Trump and Epstein have been friends for a long time. And it's interesting that now there's a new in to attack Donald Trump on something that perhaps both he and Jeffrey Epstein are saying. And you don't hear anything about it in the press. That's fascinating. That's something I didn't get to talk with Nieman today about that I would have liked to. One of the things we didn't hit. But the fact that, of course, the press doesn't like Donald Trump. Of course, they continue to, you know, program shots at him all the time. But the volume, gravity, and I don't mean this literally, but figuratively, the violence of the attacks on Donald Trump from a media perspective in his second administration compared to his first, there is no comparison. It is not even remotely close, not even slightly close. You could not move in 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020 without seeing some sort of world ending headline about Adolf Trump, you know, doing something, you know, feeding the Koyfish wrong, whatever it was. And despite the fact that his second administration has been an unmitigated disaster by just about every metric, the attacks are much softer. That's interesting. That's really, really interesting because it's in the middle of this era where all this other shit that wreaks is coming out. Well, it's because, you know, if you talk bad, you get you're done. Pull the plug. Or you'd like the litigation that he's done, you think? No, I just think with the way the media landscape works now in this second term there, they, if they published that, he's going to take him out. I mean, he just kicked like CNN and all these, you know, they want to access. You're saying, yeah, but, but he was doing that in his first minute. Remember, we kick out Jim Acosta. Yeah, but now you got Barry Weiss, you got Larry Ellison. You got way more figures put in place. That's also true. That's a great point. So there are different fit. But again, it does tie into my point. It's a great point. You now have people inside the enemy as well, right? Then referring to it, like who does Donald Trump look at his enemies? You know, the mainstream media, CNN, CBS, he's got his people in there do it. Sure. Absolutely. Great point. But, you know, there's no guy who understands the gravity of the situation better than Mike Johnson. How Speaker Mike Johnson, a single handed Lee, Ben, I, Joy, if I would say he's the most prominent voice advocating on behalf of all victims of Jeffrey Epstein and seeking justice. Is that fair to say? Yeah, I'd say so. Okay. Let's, let's, let's roll Mike Johnson being asked about Thomas Massey outgoing Congressman Thomas Massey to the tune of $32 million spent against him by people who, you know, I don't think like America very much. With Thomas Massey's obsession, bringing justice to the children, Epstein's sex traffic. This is Mike Johnson. So, so here's the, so as a leader of my party, I lead the incumbent protection program. Okay. That's my job. I go all around the country. I travel endlessly andcessantly. I have to raise over $300 million to do that. And we want everybody to come back. And, and some people, I try to protect them from themselves, you know, try to protect them from themselves. Mike and scream and bite their own colleagues. Some people seem to enjoy and trying to inflict political pain on their own teammates. Pause that real quick. Just to be clear, because he's referring to Thomas Massey as we said, he is referring to Thomas Massey's crusade to make sure that the Epstein files do not die. And there is some justice done here as kicking, screaming, and biting his colleagues. I just, I want to put that in perspective for you. The majority leader, the, I'm sorry, the speaker of the house is saying that that is like biting your colleagues to do that. Let's keep it planned, Joy. I'm not going to dress anybody individually, but I'll tell you that some here are much more frustrated than others. Okay. Pause that. Passive, aggressive, little ****. I got to mark that. Go ahead. I don't understand Thomas Massey's motivation. I don't, but I'll just do it anyway. It works. I don't know what he's, what he's thinking. Thomas Massey could have brought his discharge petition any time over the last four and a half years. Over the last four years of Biden administration, he could have done that at any time. And now he's clamoring is that there's some sort of timeline on it. It's interesting to me that he chose the election of a president Trump to bring this, to team up with the Democrats and bring this discharge petition. So do I have some concern about that? I do. But you know, in me and my way, I try to, I try to follow Ronald Reagan's 11th commandment, never speaking. I'm going to help again. My gosh, it's hard to do sometimes right here. I also try to hide his goals and bless those who persecute you. Bless those who persecute you. You just accept my southern blesses. Oh, man. Okay. I don't know what else to say about it. We're, we're for maximum. transparency. We're engaging in that right now. Okay, pause. This is moments like this, or when I think we're already in the AI simulation, and we just don't know it yet, the gaslighting that that is. And Thomas Masios has also talked about his timeline with this. He's been concerned about this for a long time. And he had a meeting early on in the, in the administration with Pam Bondy, when the new administration that he supported came in. And one of the promises on the campaign trail was releasing the Epstein files. And all he did is try to say, okay, that's a promise that was made by my party on the campaign trail to win the highest office in the land. What are we doing to follow through on that? And they started to realize there was no intention to really do that. And he started being the guy who spearheaded it. And what happened? They went after him. Mike Johnson just tried to hit the biblical fucking touch on that. Very interesting. A guy who gets caught on grinder all the time, hitting the biblical touch. I don't know that's just a very, very interesting dichotomy. Do what you want man. I love all people. But you know, your life choices are your life choices. That said, he hits you with the victim mindset of persecution. First talking about his colleagues, then talking about him and all his colleagues, and how Thomas Masios just persecuting them and, you know, trying to, you know, you just have to turn the other cheek to it and be the bigger man. He's persecuting you, Mike Johnson, by trying to get justice for the largest sex trafficking operation that we have maybe ever seen that was co-sponsored by multiple governments around the world, be it in the Middle East with Israel or right here at home as well with the CIA and the bureaucracy here. Yeah, I think that's a pretty good thing to try to go after. And I think the real evil is you, Mike Johnson. I think the real evil is you trying to make sure that votes like this don't go through is you not adhering to the fact that you guys all did pass legislation that required the release of all the files. And yet here we are all these months later. And there's two and a half to three million more that have not been released. I think the real blame is with you, allowing people like Leon Black to butt fuck you into submission over and over again, despite the fact that he's genuinely someone who is directly tied to Jeffrey Epstein, including long after Epstein's previous conviction. Like people have a right to ask questions about this and get some level of truth. And by some level, I mean, we should get all the fucking truth. And I don't want to sit here and say I'll just settle for something. But like literally, that's how low the bar is. It's like, well, you know, give us something that's at least legally like you have to give us. I know that's not everything. I know it's not just the next two and a half to three million are going to answer all our questions. I'm not fucking stupid. But like you are legally supposed to do that. And you are not doing that. So now he says that Congress is not going to happen, right? We have that that's that's down below on the next page. I have some links there. But effectively Thomas Massey, let's start with that. The first link there under there's Joey Deef is Thomas Massey's reaction to this because he's right over the target on this. I mean, it's very obvious. We can all see it. It's nice that like while he's still there, he's at least confirming it. But he's like, and there it is, just as I predicted, they're canceling Congress tomorrow. This was tweeted the other day to avoid the vote on impeaching Secretary of War. This isn't even just the Epstein file thing. It will also make it harder for us to reach the 218 signatures on the Epstein discharge petition before the election. We were at 190 plus signatures last night. And yes, GOP leaders are sending the house home early, staving off an impeachment vote against Defense Secretary Hegseth over the Iran War, which obviously he's been completely incompetent as a leader. He never should have been in there in the first place. That part I won't even blame on him. Like he should never been hired. It's not his fault he went for the job, although a little self-awareness would have helped. That said, like the fact that Donald Trump hired the fucking Fox News guy who seems to be coked out all the time to run the fucking Defense Department, like it's his personal little GI Joe fucking convention. Yeah, what could possibly go wrong? And so Mike Surnovitch, who's also, he's like a very conservative guy, right? Mike Surnovitch? I'm not sure. Every time that I, I, I don't know him like at all personally, but every time I've seen him online and I've seen him for a lot of years online, as far as I know, this is a very conservative, you know, Trump's support and guy. And he tweets out, leaving town and forgetting the midterms to dodge a vote on Epstein man, this is bleak. And so there's a video of Mike Johnson saying that he canceled Thursday's planned votes canceled him ahead of time. By the way, Thursday, Joey, that was trying to think Tuesday was the 15th, right? Wednesday was the 16th. So Thursday's plans votes are also the day after the Leon Black vote, right? Oh, wow, that would have been on the 16th is the math math. Yeah, that's math. No, my math is real. I heard it's not real. I didn't hear that. I did hear it. It's not real. Yeah, who was telling me that the other day? I forget someone told me math wasn't real. So I'll look at this. But anyway, so it's time Mike Johnson, it's time for our members to go home to their districts and make their case. It's by the way, have you seen the case they're making? I have another link right there, the lies at the, you see that right there? Let's hit, let's hit Mike Johnson again, because he's a lot of fun. So I don't know if you saw this, the GOP did a midterm convention. You know, they tried to do like an RNC at the midterms, and I think 10 people showed up. And no one watched it. But there were a couple greatest hits. This is Mike Johnson, very unabashedly, if you will, at the GOP midterm convention. And over the past two years, I'm proud to tell you that we have fulfilled our promises. If you feel Republicans and President Trump have delivered, we've delivered for America's hardworking, we've delivered for hardworking families. They have completely delivered for them. And anyone who says otherwise is retarded. Donald Trump Jr. also talked at that, you see that one? That was even better. It's right below it. I don't think I showed you this, Joe, you're going to see, you're seeing this for the first time. Yeah, there's a few of these things. You're seeing this for the first time. We're going to get an instant, Joey D free action. Donald Trump Jr., who used to tweet about Epstein every fucking day, until I guess daddy told him not to, any married Epstein's former banker's daughter. But neither here nor there. Let's play. It's a story of a few enriched elites who benefit from this radical system, while millions of normal people suffer and live their life. That's right, starting with him. Millions of normal people like Donald Trump Jr. who's definitely not in enriched elite who profits off this administration. In any way, he's never done that. That's a good one. That's a, that's, that's, that's a really good one. There was a guy today. I don't know if I put it in there. You would have loved this one. Oh, it was so good. There was a dude who got up and was like making that he was asked to make the case, I think, for the Republicans in the midterm, some rap or sound. They're all the same fucking thing. But he, he goes, listen, you know, everything's good. Yeah, gas prices are up in national securities way more important than your pocketbook. That was a direct quote. That's great. That's their case to the people. And I know, listen, that said, I know all of you out there. There was nothing that was higher on your priority list, whether you voted for Donald Trump or not, there was nothing higher on your priority list coming into 2026. And even 2025, when he first came in, then making sure that Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon and that we bomb the shit out of them to start a new war and tell everyone it's going to last four weeks, every four weeks for the first 16 weeks until we just stopped saying that just keeps going on. And you know, I don't look over there because there's nothing to worry about, including the pet red dollar and all the oil that's fucking a huge problem in straight or hormones, which we definitely didn't know was going to be closed down by Iran ahead of time, which we definitely did. You get the picture. We're all sick of it. It's just it's it's the like we were saying earlier, Joe, if the peasant of Ante on a string. So I think I forgot to put that link in there, but you guys can go find that one. They're all saying it. It's all the messaging. It's going out on all the Republican emails is what the Democrats and Republicans do. In case, this wasn't painfully obvious. I think most of you know this, but like they send out email talking points, just like a corporation sends out like what the minutes are from the meetings. They're like, this is how we're going to talk. And another thing I was thinking of earlier than I forgot to bring up is we've seen those videos before, Joe, of when it shows a local news station. And the newscasters go, yesterday, we as a team saw blank and then another one from another city and says that there was going to be another synced up and saying the same thing. And then suddenly it pops out to like a hundred different videos of a bunch of local affiliates of owned by Fox or CBS around the country saying the same script like it is the fucking Truman show and Ron Burgundy in one. Yeah. Like that's what these parties do internally. And by the way, and I know you guys have seen this online, that's what they do with their influencer campaigns online. That's why you see tweets that pop out at the same time from all these big accounts that are worded. I mean, it's really lazy like it. it's copy paste. - It's literally exactly. It is literally copy and paste. And, you know, if you guys listen to my show, you know, damn well, since 2017, I've been, I didn't even know what it was called back then, but a black-pilled guy. I don't like either of these parties. I think you lose either way for different reasons in different contexts. But it is fascinating from like a strategy perspective that a party like the current administration and the Republican side in this case, being in power, having the majority in the house, and obviously controlling the White House, the fact that their self-awareness would be so low that they go out of their way to tout the very things that they've completely shit on people about. - Mm-hmm. - I mean, it's given the same kind of energy as like when Joe Biden couldn't, you know, was telling you there's fucking 47 genders. It's the same thing. It's just a different language, right? It's, you know, Japanese, Italian, but they're translating to the same kind of thing, trying exactly, exactly. So, really disappointing to see all that in the middle of all that, this was the other one. I saw this earlier, we're gonna get to the Vivian Kubrick thing in a minute. But the other story that is going very under the radar, Joey Deeth, is the Thomas Crook's update. So, Mike Sarnovich also tweeted about this, and he said, "This should be a much bigger story "barried by Macklemore." And I'm gonna get to the article in a sec, but the roundup, this is from September 15th, from Fox News, actually. Breaking, attempted Trump-assassioned Thomas Crook's had packages of gun parts delivered to him under the pseudonym Bob Dole, and an anonymous donor paid for his body to be cremated according to federal records obtained by Fox News Digital. You know what, on July 14th, yeah, 2024, which would have been the day after the attempt. And obviously, Thomas Crook's was killed on site. If I were thinking of a really patriotic thing to do, and I were a man of means who could afford to, you know, do some things that other people can't, at the very top of my list would have been making sure I reached out to my great government and said, "I need you to put me in touch. "I need you to put me in touch with the morgue, "slash the family, the morgue handling, "slash the family of Thomas Crook's, "because I have been inspired to front the bill, "to have his body cremated." I mean, that's what I would have done. - Listen, I need to write off. - Yeah, that's right. - I need to write off. I need some charitable contributions on my tax return. I need to put it into. - And then they're gonna be like, they're gonna be like, "Yeah, well, he did it "because he tried killing our Lord and Savior, "and we said he should burn in hell, "so we're gonna pay for him to be cremated." - That's what they want us to think. - That's right, I didn't even- - I don't buy it though. - Look at that. - I don't buy it. - It was about the symbolism. - Yeah, they're like, "He's a demon, he needs to burn. "I'll pay for it." - And we can't wait at least a week for all evidence to be collected. We need to make sure it happens. - Yeah, 'cause like he tried killing Lord and Savior himself, why wouldn't they want to do an investigation? - Yeah. - You know what I mean? - And in all seriousness, we have said in the past, and I'll continue to say the strangest part about this story is the most vengeful, you know, never forgets a single slight that ever happened to him person that you know on Twitter or I guess on true social, Donald J. Trump. Stop talking about the dude who tried to fucking kill him. Maybe I have to say allegedly now, immediately after this. - Yeah, that's not him. - When his Donald Trump ever given up on it, he still holds grudges against Rosie O'Donnell. - Yeah, no, that was. - But the guy that shot him, well, he's dead. So, just pulled a full Bill Gates, you know? - I didn't know Stevie won the tried killing me. 'Cause clearly he couldn't see. Like he didn't throw a single one of those out. - Oh man, so just some details on this because this went under the radar and was undiscussed and all Congress is leaving to go home to make their case to the American people. Which, you pointed that out, Jody, if there were some great JD Vance memes of him saying, "Just give us a chance. - Just give us a chance." - Please, one more chance, please, please, pretty please. - You played yourself. - But FBI releases new details about Thomas Crook's gun of session, pseudonym Bob Dull, 'cause if you're gonna have a pseudonym, pick the losing candidate from 1996. Newly unclassified FBI documents are revealing several major details regarding Thomas Crook's, the 20-year-old attempted to assassinate President Donald Trump while campaigning in Butler, Pennsylvania in 2024, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, Republican from Iowa, also a geriatric fuck, very, very old, no disrespect. Shared the trove of documents with multiple media outlets, including the New York Post, detailing Crook's upbringing, behavior, and actions in a series of interviews with those close to him. Crook's father, Matthew, reportedly said, "When Thomas was born, he did not scream, "and he was always quiet from that point on, "plus he never really had a father-son bond with him." It's interesting. So James Comer comes in again, James Comer, the head of the Epstein solid, who continues to push for answers, as this article says, "told the national news desk on Wednesday, "he's glad the information is being made public," but, quote, "they're still not fully satisfied," unquote. Sounds like another case. If anything, what the FBI's releases led to more questions, so I don't think anybody satisfied with the way the investigation was handled, I know that no one would be more interested in this than President Trump himself. - Yeah. Have you seen him make a single comment about this? - I like, forgot it even happened, honestly. - Yeah, he doesn't seem very interested. - Yeah. - The documents reveal Crook's, reportedly, had a growing obsession with guns, apparently perfectly normal. So to speak, right? Good target. Find someone who's more obsessed with guns. You wanna a little do a trapper and do a little intraporune? - Do a leap of a cliff. - Okay, don't pull my grip. - How are you? - Come on, come on now. Practicing at a range for years, specifically at longer distances. That's what Crook's was doing. His dad reportedly said in one of the documents, quote, he wanted to see how far he could shoot with rudimentary size. (laughing) - Don't look there, huntin' that. - I don't want a scope, dad. (laughing) - As his interest in guns grew, the documents also revealed the Crook's began buying a large number of packages from Amazon. Amazon does have the best service. I'll give them that. - That's good. - Including parts, tools, and items to increase the capacity of his rifle. Again, these are some big elk. He's going after him. - You getting that on Amazon? - Yeah. - On Amazon. - Listen, apparently Bezos second-amending cheese. - He was using the synonym, Bob Dull, the pseudonym, I'm sorry, Bob Dull for his delivery address. Again, low-key, that's a good choice. Bob Dull, you just think of two poccularics at that point. - Yeah. - He's cultured. He's also sending it to his address. So it's like, that doesn't even matter. - That's right, that's right. It was like, what was it? Dolores Tucka used a motherfucker. Bob Dull don't understand the way that I forget the lyrics, but it's a good song. Pock dropped on that and era, era specific, obviously. In a true social post Tuesday, President Trump did describe the assassination attempt. I'm sorry, Joe Dief, he did comment on it. I was unaware of this. I didn't see it all over Twitter, I'll tell you that. He described the assassination attempt as a Democrat plot, while also criticizing former FBI director Chris Rae, but current FBI director, Cash Petel, told Lawmaker's Tuesday, the Bureau found no evidence linking Thomas Crooks to a larger conspiracy. There's never been an assassination where the assassination is a part of conspiracy. They're obviously always alone coming, who just made the decision on themselves, didn't receive a little push along the way. Nothing happened, and that's what it is. And if you're not satisfied with Cash Petel being on this, if you're not Todd Blanche is on it as well. Turning General Todd Blanche also weighed in Tuesday, touching on Trump's frustration with the FBI at the time. I mean, you have a situation where it's not really clear what the leadership of the FBI was doing in the weeks and months ahead of the attempt to assassination, protect President Trump. That's the same organization. It was simultaneously trying to put him in prison until he dies, Blanche said. The New York Post noted that an anonymous donor paid for Crooks to be cremated just days after the deadly shooting. The revelation reportedly came during an interview with his father, who apparently was all too happy to take the money and say, yeah, I'll make him fucking burn. Anyway, nobody's talking about it. The whole thing's sketchy. He let it go immediately. And by the way, Cory Comparatory, who was an avid supporter of Donald Trump, who was there with his wife and child at the event, died. And a lot of people seem to forget that. What they shouldn't forget is that his own widow came out and says she thinks that this is a cover-up. Again, it's like people that are victims of stuff, Even if they don't end up being right, which by the way, she has a lot of reason to think that and she very well, maybe right. But they have every right to have the investigation done properly so that they can get answers. And they don't seem to want to do that here. And it's conveniently hidden a week where Congress is going, it's just noise. Yeah. That's the noise. I was talking about you. If they just drown you in noise, you saw last week, I didn't start rantin' about Lindsey Clancy till like 57, 58 minutes in the episode because that's the noise they want you to lead with. Unfortunately, I had to be talked about because enough people were like, "I know, maybe she's fucking me." You know, she didn't know she did it. This is great for women. And it's just insane. But like, you know, we do our best here to not fall into those traps all the time. Like we want to bring the things that are happening to you and give our thoughts on it and let it land with you guys and let you guys decide for yourself. But like, these are the stories that we always try to find because they don't want us talking about. It's just clear in their actions. That was another thing Neema was saying earlier that was a real cook when he was talking and you'll hear it on that podcast when it comes out. But when he was talking about how the media frames their articles to anchor you. So I go ask you to do that. Yeah. We ask you to do that online. Yeah. No, we all know they do these kinds of things, but you don't always notice the exact, you know, bar for bar strategy. And how do you put it? He said, any time an article headline asks a question. Yeah. And I think what he said, the example he was thinking of just randomly as I was Will Kamala Harris win in 2024. He said, almost every time the article head is a question, the answer is no. And they are psychologically moving you in that direction by doing that. Yeah. That was pretty. That wasn't pretty. Yeah. I looked at him and I was like, W. Yeah. I was literally immediately. I'm like, Wendell. I thought about a bunch of hours. They were all, no. It was like, no, no, no. I was like, shit. Yeah. And then I was even like, will Donald Trump go to prison for the eve? It's like, no. Like it's just, it's always no. That's all. That's so interesting. And there we go, will Donald Trump's impeachment result in him actually being removed? No. Yeah. But like everyone reading CNN is like, yes, very, very fascinating. So in review, they're canceling Congress to not vote on Epstein the same week when we're all fighting. No, I don't even know if we're going to talk about the Bob Kraft thing today. I don't even know if I want to. Like, there's more important things to get to. Yeah. You know, everyone's fighting over Bob Kraft and Macklemore. And then they're canceling Congress. They don't vote on Epstein and in the middle of it, the crooks evidence gets released. And they say they're going to do something about it, but they don't do anything about it. And it's going to go away right away. And the president doesn't seem to care. And also Leon Black is whatever it is, not censured, but he voted 41 to owe against. And they're referring it to Justice Department. And you're not going to hear about it again. There will be no charges brought. And then it'll be Christmas. And then it'll be 2027. And we're on good and new news cycle. Yeah. Doesn't take long, folks. Yeah. That's why you know that's one of my favorite obsessions is the news says, I mean, I hate it. I hate it. I hate how it works. But one of my favorite obsessions is the news cycle and how they use it at all times. It's not a new phenomenon. It's not a new phenomenon at all. Well, let's get to the eyes wide shut thing. So I laid out the review at the beginning of this episode as far as like where this was. And so after I went back and forth publicly with Vivian Kubrick, I had a conversation with her. Do we have that Google Doc where I put the stuff up? It's in that section at the bottom of the second page. So just so you guys understand, we had gone through this one. I'm not going to read this again because I already read this public tweet Vivian put out a couple of weeks ago, but she addressed the missing 20 minutes theory of eyes wide shut and in summary, she said she does not believe there's a missing 20 minutes. She believes that the cut, the final cut that you know, made theaters was very close. If not like pretty much what her father had put together. I then positive that even if you wanted to play that and say she's right and that there isn't a missing 20 minutes, I didn't know if it really even mattered because when you really watched that film over and over again, he says it. I mean, he really fucking sears it out there. There are Easter eggs everywhere hidden symbolism everywhere hidden in plain sight, I should say symbolism everywhere plotline symbolism everywhere. He is basically saying there are elite organizations of people who think they are above you who enjoy inflicting intense pain on victims who don't have a choice that includes children and it's a trafficking network. That's the movie. And as it was put out now, that is the movie. And so how much darker would it needed to have gotten without it being even like two overt to make a shitty movie where you don't have to do any work in your head? You know what I mean? No one likes it to where every other line is like refreshing you on. Look at what's happening here. They like a film that you get to people like films where we get to interpret them, right? And we get to, oh look, we did there. And then the best are the ones like this one where you got to watch it several times to fully get it without it being, you know, too intellectually confusing. That's not why you're rewatching it, you're rewatching it because it's brilliant and there's a lot going on and you can find new things. The one theory I did put some credence in that I think is interesting is the letter theory where I talked about the part where Tom Hanks shows up and they hand shows back up to the mansion where it all happened like the whole ritual and the old man comes out and hands him a letter. And there's a quick shot close up of Tom Hanks or not Tom Hanks. Tom Cruise reading the letter and there's the theory that maybe they had changed the text on the letter to make it more ambiguous rather than maybe it was originally direct and it would have been very easy to change that after Stanley Kubrick died. They probably could have done it at the time in 99 or CGI for sure or they could have just literally re-filmed hands. Yeah. Didn't even have to be Tom Cruise's hands. They were gloved up. So they could have changed that. There could have been little things like that. But I didn't think it mattered. And so Vivian and I went back and forth. And so here's what she said to me, she reached out to me and she said, hi Julian, I realized you were a bit non-plussed about why I tagged you along with Joe and Alex referring to Joe Rogan and Alex Jones. I'd recently listened to some of your podcasts and was happily listening away when I heard you discussing Eyes Wide Shut. That's what finally prompted me to write my rather long explanation about the supposed missing 20 minutes. I realized it was about time. All these years later. That's interesting that it's kind of cool that like, you know, that's just random. We talk about it on a podcast, Mayor. Talk about it. Yeah. Interesting. A few people ask why I'd taken so long to say anything about it. The answer is actually very simple. I've always understood quite reasonably that something coming from me doesn't carry much weight with people who are already convinced of their own version of reality. If someone has spent years believing a story, the daughter, the daughter of a man, the daughter of the man at the center of its saying, quote, that didn't happen, unquote, is unlikely to make much difference. See my post on the fake moon landing footage and she linked me there, something with that. Julian, like you, because obviously Stanley coo, she's referring to the fact that Stanley Cooper is also often cited as a guy who could have been hired to direct the moon landing footage because he had done 2001 space Odyssey and he could have, oh, maybe, maybe you said a good set there. I don't know. It's fun. So she says, Julian, like you, I'm very concerned about where humanity is heading. For the last 25 years, I've been fighting the good fight largely because of my own experiences dealing with very evil people. And of course, my great wake up call 9/11, just to say I came across Alex Jones on Coast cos am and he woke me up to good and proper. He woke me up good and proper. Some years later, I saw it him out at a demonstration in Dallas, Texas. That's how I came to know him and later to appear on a show a number of times. Being my father's daughter doesn't give me the power to make people believe what I say about him, particularly when a more sensational version of events has been repeated for years. And sensationalism has an enormous advantage. It is more dramatic, more marketable, and far more likely to travel than the comparatively mundane truth. He's right about that. Ironically, the opposite seems to be true when I talk about geopolitics and this diabolical predatory class. People are often far more willing to hear me out on those enormous subjects than accept my first hand knowledge of my own father, such as human nature. That's an excellent point all the way around. And it does go to and I really is why we are devils with the details here on things about what we know and what we don't know and what is pure spec is easy to run to the opposite side of things once untruths have been uncovered, if you will. You still have to get the evidence if you're going to go all the way there. And even if something looks horrible, it doesn't mean the answer is the direct opposite. In fact, that is the scope of most human wars and disasters that have ever happened in the world. swing hard in another direction that leads to this system breaking to in order to reset equilibrium. So she's absolutely right that like people will hear out things when it fits the narrative of like everything's a lie. But then the minute you say, "Well, wait a minute, this other thing right here, I have some personal evidence that may say it's not." It doesn't mean Vivian's right, but the fact that she would introduce it and people would be like, "Fuck you, you have no idea what you're talking about when they listen to her on a bunch of other stuff that she doesn't have first knowledge of is an interesting part of human nature." And she laid that out beautifully in that paragraph. Anyway, she continues, "You struck me as a sensible and fair man." Thank you, which is why I thought you were worth addressing directly. Please also read this response, and I believe she was Lincoln. Oh, right. So please also read this response. I gave it to someone else regarding the completely untrue story that my father was supposedly at the NYC screening for Warner studio heads screaming at them. So she is saying that the story of Stanley Kubrick leaving a private screening with the studio executives did not happen. She said, "My father left the United States in 1968 and never went back." As far as I know, that is true. Not once, but even more compelling is this interview with Nigel Galt who worked with my father during the editing of EWS. And she also links to that. Maybe I can link that in the description so people can see that. What I do want to say there is that I actually can't remember. And I forgot to check this before. Maybe you can check the story, Dave. Where did the alleged meeting between Warner executives and Stanley Kubrick for the screening of eyes wide shut take place? Was it in the UK or was it in the US? Because her defense is that the meeting happened and the screening happened in the US and he definitely wasn't there for that. The first screening for eyes wide shut executives took place at the studio's fifth ab headquarters in New York City. Okay. So it says Kubrick himself was not present at this New York screening. Got it. So that would start to track. Perhaps there's another screening that happens that she is unaware of in the UK or perhaps there's not. Or maybe it's a half-truth. Maybe they screened the movie and the story that the conversation was happening between them on the way out is actually an overheard phone call of Stanley Kubrick yelling at the phone saying it's my movie. That's possible. That's pure spec right there. I have nothing to prove that whatsoever. I'm simply speculating on that. But could be true what she's saying right there. I do want to reiterate and this is not something I went back and forth with her on. There are people have pointed out that she and her father had a very close relationship for most of her life. She literally did the composition of full metal jacket in 1987. But towards the end of her life they were not as close. And maybe there was a falling out there over Vivian and her ties to Scientology. So again, you do have to wonder how much full awareness she had of this final project that was happening at the very end of her father's life. So she had asked me to read the response about the NYC screening. That's an extra rabbit hole. Maybe we can link that as well down below. We can make a note of that. Joey Deef. But the moral of the story is what she explained there saying that he could not have been in New York City where the screening took place. Therefore the story of them yelling at each other did not happen. Anyway, she continues. Finally, one thing I can promise you is true most stories about famous people are either grossly exaggerated, complete inventions or deliberate vicious lies. People gossip, people insert themselves into events they can never take part in. And human beings particularly in the entertainment industry can be envious, bitter and remarkably willing to manufacture a story if it buys them their 15 minutes in the spotlight. Anyway, my dear Julian, I hope all of this will make you a little more wary of the second third fourth hand and entirely invented stories. I lived and worked with my father. I loved him with all my heart and soul. And I knew him as a human being rather than as a legend assembled from other people's stories. I hope you'll be generous enough in the spirit to give firsthand testimony its proper weight, which is why, you know, I asked her if it was cool to read this and that's why we're doing that. So another, you know, unpopular opinion these days, but this is another thing I've said for a long time is that you don't want to define all the bad apples as the whole. So you look at all institutions where there's evil that exists in it. And we've seen no better examples than this year and where that is. And another one that's really popular is people love to go at every fucking thing in Hollywood. There's some evil in Hollywood. No question about it. We just saw the whole anything. It fucking shoved under the rug. No one's questioning that. But I think you have, you have to be careful because when you just say it's all of them. It's every single one of them. And they all, you throw out your case when you do that because that's objectively not true. There's evil and then there's people that aren't. It's a mix. And you try to sift through that and find what it is. And that's, you know, that's where some of her point there at the end certainly holds weight. But it does, it does really creep me out that someone is brilliant. A Stanley Cooper, regardless of whatever the cut looked like. Or was supposed to look like or actually was at the end. I don't know. It freaks me out how over the target he was so long ago. And it really freaks me out how long it took for us as a society. All of us to realize that. And when you look at the guy's filmography before that and the types of topics that he covered and the things he did and then time was allowed to pass. And you saw how well it aged like fine wine. I mean, yeah, you know, it's interesting that people didn't give him the assumption that that, hey, maybe he's telling us something with his very last flick. Yeah, I mean, all of them, dude, 2001, a space Odyssey and AI, clockwork, orange and MK Ultra. Yeah, I mean, my whole fuck was a visionary. He was a visionary. All right, I said maybe we wouldn't do it because it doesn't know what I mean, but it was a big story this week and we're towards the end here. So it's fine. But yes, there was a big thing with Ed Sheeran and Bob Kraft and Malcolm War. Bob Kraft is a total hypocrite. Okay, this is the owner of the New England Patriots. What happened was Ed Sheeran's been going on tour, obviously, in Megastar. He's had Malcolm War, who's a long time friend of his as the opening act. Malcolm War is very, very, you know, pro-Palestinian cause. And you know, such a lot of things I agree with about stop in the violence there for short and used his platform at multiple venues to speak out on this. And what we got confirmation on, which can you pull up the New York Post headline right there, Joy Difalm saying this is just fucking great. But what we got confirmation on is Robert Kraft, who was with Gillette Stadium, which he owns, was going to be one of the next stops on the tour, called up Ed Sheeran and said, "You're not playing at my stadium unless Malcolm War is removed from your tour." And then also apparently colluded with other venues that we're going to be hosting the tour to get them to agree to it as well. Bob Kraft is the same guy who has what is it called like an anti-zionism nuclear cell center in Gillette Stadium where he just has people tagging anything that's like anti-Israel. Can we pull this up? It's a real thing. He has like a, he has like a cyber team that flags anybody online saying anything against Israel criticizing the Israeli government, which means we're fucking getting flagged too on there. And like, you have an artist who said things about people who are being killed in Gaza and it is at the hands of that foreign government. And that was a bridge too far for Bob Kraft. It wasn't a bridge too far when Colin Kaepernick was doing all his shit in 2017, which by the way, you know, it's free speech. I may not like someone shitting on the flag and stuff, but you know, it was a whole side show and all that. But Bob Kraft was like, yeah, no, we got to have this conversation. But nope, now you talk about Israel country. He's not from not born in didn't make his money in, but that he seems to be supremely loyal to Bob Kraft. Same guy who got a nice rubbin tugs in an Asian massage establishment, you know, certainly has a great record with stuff. There's another link there at the bottom. I think you see that one. But yes, Dave pulled this up. Robert Kraft runs a multi-million dollar Israeli surveillance operation on American soil. If you think canceling McElmore is bad, you have no idea what designers are planning. That is from deaf noodles. So this is, can we play that real quick? This is from CBS. I guess this, I don't know what the timing of this report was, but maybe this is Barry Weiss's CBS when this was being aired showing this cyber center in Gillette Stadium that it's not directed towards Patriots season tickets. I'll tell you that. Inside the Patriots Stadium, a command center of stats tracking hate speech online. It shows where it's coming from, the time of day, and how it's trending, especially among younger people. We saw that not only is he an antisemitism growing across the country, it's disproportionately grown in college campuses and in hospitals. Which is part of the reason Kraft says he partnered with the United Negro College Fund and the Jewish Organization, Hillel and her national, to host unity dinners throughout the country. So let's get to it! Baruch College students, Aiden Herslinger and Akish El, are among the more than 450 students who've attended at least one of the dinners. What do you talk about at these dinners? The dinners are about finding commonalities, commonalities between the black community and the Jewish community. So we really talk about anything and everything. It's not just about politics and opinions, it's about treating each other as humans. We mainly talk about our families, why we have communities and how our communities are similar, more than different. Why Jewish students with black students? Because historically we had that connection, it's a connection that's gotten a lot done and I think we can continue to get a lot done if we come together. And when you heard those students talk about the history of blacks and Jews working together, consider this. And June of 1964, three college students fighting for civil rights and this is going to be murdered. I don't have an issue with communal dinners and stuff like that. It's the first part. I have an issue with. Because guys like Robert Kraft conflate as we saw proven this week, they conflate any statements made against a foreign government as anti-semitism. Which leads to actual anti-semitism by the way, because that wasn't payfully obvious. The lack of self-awareness is insane. So when Robert Kraft did this immediately, it got mackle more, more attention than I've seen him get since he did the fucking thrift shop song, like fucking 40 years ago. Oh yeah. I mean, total boomerang effect. Yeah. I'm like, I got to listen to his music now, I don't even listen to it. Yeah. And basically everyone down to Phineas, the famous producer Billy Eilish's brother, dropped out of Ed Sheeran's tour, his own back band, backed out because Ed Sheeran has talked about being so apolitical in the past, but if, and I like Ed Sheeran's songs, he's a very talented artist and I've never had anything against the guy or anything, but he really miss handled this because he has talked out about like the Ukraine war in the past. He has done visits to Israel in the past and stuff. And he was saying, wow, I just, you know, I didn't want to have a problem because, you know, I, I'm real. It's apolitical nature is really, really important. No. No. Bob Kraft called you and said, listen, little bitch, I don't like what's being said about Israel. I'm pulling your money unless she get ready to this mackle more. All right. That's what happened. And so mackle more and, you know, mackle more was classy about it as it pertains to Ed in his statement. There's a very long statement, but, you know, this is exact, you're, you're playing into stereotypes about Kraft, like, you know, I'm going to leave that where it is. You are playing directly into stereotypes. You have to beat free speech you don't like with other free speech, not shutting down speech. And by the way, the speech you didn't like happened to agree with a lot of what mackle more said, sorry, doesn't make me hateful to say that. But there's the New York Post link you had a, so the New York Post, which is just amazing, amazing, sometimes with their headlines, they had a headline that said mackle more after he put out a statement, blames Jewish NFL owner, Robert Kraft for getting kicked off Ed Sheeran tour, paints himself as a martyr in wacky statement. Rob Kraft literally released a statement at this point, he'd already released a statement saying I got him kicked off. But they frame this is another example of what Neem is talking about. They frame that like mackle more is creating a boogie man without any proof. The guy released a statement saying I called Ed Sheeran and said, drop this motherfucker. So then Robert Kraft, who really can't read a room, puts out some later statement a couple days later where he says he's agreed to match Ed Sheeran's donation, who was scrambling to try to fix this for, you know, help in Gaza and then lays out how he's actually donated to Gaza so many times over the, this is a guy online one from Benjamin Netanyahu. There's literally a screenshot right there of Netanyahu's handwriting writing down a list of like go to people he can go to and fucking Bob Kraft is on. This is a guy who used to take the Patriots on fucking trips to Israel and shit. He's like, oh no, but I care about the Palestinians, I've been donating all these causes to create unity. Okay. Have you supported them on getting a state? Oh, I don't, I don't think so. I don't think you've done that. So have you really supported him? Have you at any point prior to the public pressure here tried to call off the dogs on, on, you know, bombing the shit out of full city blocks in Gaza or in Lebanon? Let's go even beyond Palestine for a second. I haven't heard shit from you. Bob Kraft. I'm just, I'm really sick of people like this. Yeah. I'm not even getting mad about this. I am used to this at this point. It's, it's not even worth my energy, but you got some fucking geriatric billionaire who's also wired right into Trump, always has been in defense of him. He was friends with Trump long before his president, but wired right in his wife who's 40 years younger than him, which, you know, this legal is on the fucking board of the Kennedy Center where Trump's doing all this shit there like it's all a big club. And in that club, there's one thing that apparently is a no go and you're not allowed to do. And now, you know, it'll be interesting to see how Ed Sheeran handles this moving forward. He's completely botched it to this point. You know, I, I don't want to be one of those guys. I also don't want to like cancel Ed, that's doing the same thing like cancel Ed Sheeran because he fucked something up, but like he, he fucked it up really and, and, you know, he can't just throw a check at the problem. It's like, whoa, what's it going to take too many, oh, sorry. You know, you, you got it. There's got to be some self awareness on this and any, any left. Ed Sheeran would have sold more fucking records than he ever has in his life. Yeah. If he had back. So, because by the way, the fucking audience pulling on this, certainly in that direction, if you will. Maybe it'll learn a lesson, maybe they won't, we'll get to the Trump pardon brokers next week. That's, that's too fun of a story to, to be short on. But that is a real thing. They're pardon brokers. Obviously, if you watch this show, you know, John Kiriaku has been blowing the whistle on this for years. He's told the story long before he was on my show. He's told the story. I think since, like, maybe Danny's first show with him in 2022, I could be wrong about that, but he's told the story about Rudy Giuliani's guys. And Rudy Giuliani literally, like, trying to sell him a fucking pardon, he was like, oh, fuck yourself. You know, it's so sketchy. But now, we've reached the point of corruption where it's just so open that these guys give 60-minute interviews. So, I'll cover that next week and you'll get the full context because it's a lot of fun and there's a lot of things about also a lot of net worths seem to be increasing at substantial rates. Yeah. They're doing well. substantial rates during this administration. We'll talk about that. I could not let our favorite guy go untouched in this episode. I know Joey Dief over here. One thing you don't know about Joey Dief that I do is that he is a closeted political strategist. I mean, that in a positive way. Like, he just doesn't advertise that to people. But when it comes to designing a campaign and trying to move the chess pieces on the board and figure out who is in the best position to be, I don't know, in house representatives, Senate or dare I say president, there's no one who has a better finger on the post than Joey Dief. And that is why this week, when we saw Lazarus raise back from the dead or at least sit in the wheelchair from the dead if that is even in fact him, Joey Dief saw the 2028 ticket. Who is that 2028 ticket going to be Joey Dief and what are you doing to put the, put the dominoes at effect to make sure that happens? I got one word for you. One word, Mitch. Mitch. Mitch, 2028, Mitch McConnell for the presidential race. We're going to get him up there. I'm going to wheel him on stage if I have to. I might even take the vice presidential ticket if he offers it. He's the leader we need. He is the leader we need. He's near death, he's nearly incapacitated. That's what it takes to run this country, folks. That's what it takes. That's a decision maker. That's our decision maker. That's right. Can we get that first link of Mitch McConnell after he was, I'm laughing, it's so sad. This is how I watch this. This is your full imagination at this point. When she dropped booty on me, this is how I love to just play that real quick. This is Mitch McConnell after being wheeled into his van to go to. He's doing a good Mitch. It's that John Rondy. I think that's John. That is John. That is John, right? Dude. Shout out John who played a mean Mitch McConnell back in July. If you know you know, obviously, we did have Mitch McConnell on the podcast and by that, I mean, John Rondy tied up in murmuring, unintelligible sounds. Very well. Great, great performance by John. But that is exactly what he looked like when he was here. It's the resemblance is uncanny. Literally. So this guy's been dead for months. Who knows if that's even him or it's not just like a fucking wax figure that, you know, they just made breath. And he's going back to vote. What's he 80 years old? - Five years old, something like that. - Who cares? - A hundred. He's been around forever, and he is voting on you, me, your sons and daughters' futures. - The future of AI. - The future of AI, which he definitely understands very well. And in fact, when he went into vote, it took him a couple tries, just a couple. - Yeah. - Just like going back to school after a long break. - So McConnell quietly says, I, meaning yes, as GOP Senator John Hove and Leans over and tells him, no, multiple times. A staffer then intervened and chairman John Bruceman, reinforced McConnell's I vote as the bill advanced 12-11 loan party lines. Hove in's office says he initially misunderstood what the committee was voting on. Listen, sometimes you just need a couple tries. Right, let's play this real quick. This is too good. - Senator Welch. - Oh, we missed the beginning of a thing, correct? - Senator McConnell. - No. - No. - All right. - All right. - And they're like, wait a minute. - Senator McConnell. - You had to write them, all right. - Senator McConnell, any thoughts on the microphone? - Yeah, I had to write them first on. But don't worry folks, he was reeled out and gave the thumbs up, so everything's fine. - We can get the new law. - I'm locking. - Locked in. - Locked in. (laughing) - It's so fucked up, 'cause if this was anybody else, I'd say we are terrible people, but like, fuck this guy. - Oh no, fuck like, fuck him. - Fuck him, fuck the people around him doing this charade. And proving that we're just run by geriatric fucks who never wanna leave office and they're never gonna vote on term limits because they don't want term limits. They wanna be able to trade their stocks forever and laugh in your face while they have stakes on K Street. And, you know, wheel out their oldest and greatest to go fuck up votes. I mean, it's just like, you have to laugh at the madness. You have to laugh at the madness and that's where we're at. But if Joey Deef has his way, we will see a McConnell deep 2028 ticket. - What a ticket. - What a ticket, though. - You're gonna have to do a lot of the talk. - Yeah, I'm gonna have to take the job over on day three. (laughing) - What do they say, a heartbeat away? - Yeah, something like that. - Yeah. - I think it's just a couple breaths for this guy, you know? - Just a, that is a dying flashlight of a heartbeat, if you will. - Can we play one more before we sign off? - Of course you, because eventually, eventually all turtles have to go home and Mitch is gonna have his day eventually. (laughing) - Return to the ocean, Mitch, you're free now. (laughing) - Oh my God, that's too good. - Joey Deef, good stuff, let's not clone humans. - Nope, not humans. - We don't support that. Nope, we'll be very clear on that and they're not doing that down there. And we're very happy to see that they're not doing that. But cool stuff you did participate in the creation of life this week. - Yeah, dude, I'm hyped. - Yes. - We're bringing 'em back. - You're bringing 'em back. - Yeah. - Also, Joey Deef just knocked out some checks. So he's gonna be a father as well if that's breaking news. Anyway, that said, give it a thought. He's not gonna be a father. I'm kidding, everyone. He's got a movie to make. - That's my baby. - That's your baby. That's your baby. Anyway, as always, please subscribe. I appreciate all you guys for watching. Thank you for your patience today. It has been a long day. For recording this is the second one we were doing. We will see you next week. That said, give it a thought. Get back to me, peace. - Peace. - What's up, guys? Thanks so much for watching the video. If you have not subscribed, please hit that subscribe button before you leave, as well as leave a like on the video to YouTube. You can join my Patreon via the link in the description and you can also join my clipping community via the Discord link down below. See you for the next episode.