ECR vs. ADP: Draft Picks Experts Love to Target with Justin Boone (Ep. 2149)

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The most accurate ranker in the land, Justin Boone. That is the perfect person that we could bring on for ADP versus ECR. So, Justin, again, congratulations. And how are you, man? I'm doing well. I mean, you're saying that we're using the top 20 rankers for this show. I would argue we only need to use the number one ranker, but that's your choice. We could definitely go top 20 if that makes the show a little better. But no, I'm always excited to jump on with you guys. It's super fun. And this is a great time of year to do it, right? I love talking this stuff over. Things are changing so much right now. News coming out of practice. We're seeing a lot of injuries this month, which I feel like in the last couple of years, it didn't seem like we had that many injuries like this coming out of practices in August. But that's the way it is. So we're keeping an eye on that. We're keeping an eye on preseason games. And we're adapting and updating the rankings along the way. Erickson, we're going to change this to the JBCR, the Justin Boone Consensus Ranks, is what we're going to be doing this episode, if you're ready. But how this works. So ECR, again, it's like all of the rankers that are in. But a feature that you can do when you're checking out ECR is you can hone it in. You can just say, well, I just want to see the consensus rank of the top 10 people or the top 20. So I honed it in a little bit. And we are going to be taking the top 20 most accurate rankers. And then we are going to be battling that versus what the ADP looks like. And that is going to create where there are some pretty big discrepancies, Erickson. Surprisingly, there are some guys that won that even has a 10-spot difference between their ADP and where they're being ranked in consensus. So this is a fun experiment using some of the fantasy pros tools, Erickson, that we've got. And just some common terms that people are used to of average draft position versus where people are ranking. That's always the battle, right? Yeah, it's pitting the experts, the so-called experts, as we see a lot in the comments, where, oh, these experts versus the marketplace. It's like, well, this is where people are actually drafting these certain players and picking sides of do we actually agree with our colleagues, the other experts, or are we men of the people, right? No. I'm following the herd. I'm going with the ADP here. So it'll be an interesting conversation. And Justin Boone is the perfect guest to have on. Perfect guest. Perfect guest. Our top accuracy guy. And again, this is going to be taking sides. So the battle here is going to be ECR versus ADP. Both of you fine gentlemen are going to be picking which side you buy, which is either going to be the high or the low. We're going to start with running backs, go to wide receivers, and then a little sprinkle of quarterback and tight end that we're going to be tackling today. If you guys want to follow along, obviously, check out the ranks page, fantasypros.com. slash NFL slash rankings. You can just type in your search bar, fantasy pros ranks, take you in there for we're doing this versus half PPR. You can do the same thing with the ADP. But a cool thing about the ranks page is not only will it show you, you know, the names, the ranks, it'll show you kind of the volatility of upside versus bust. But there's a nice little thing on the side that says this player is positive or negative versus ADP. So it's just kind of set there for you. And that is going to start us off in the running backs. The first running. Back ECR versus ADP is Brees Hall. Brees Hall coming in as the expert consensus 14th running back. And again, I just want to reiterate this one more time, because if you go to ECR, you could see slight differences. This is what the top 20 most accurate rankers from last year have. Brees Hall as is their 14th RB. The ADP is three spots higher. So this is ECR 14 versus ADP 17. I kind of feel like there's, there's a little bit of question volatility of the three running back thing. There's the injury that's looming out here. So this is an interesting one. So Justin Boone, why don't you start us off? Brees Hall, ECR or ADP? It's ECR for me. I have them exactly RB 14 in my rankings. And really I was a little more excited about him before this injury. And I think the talk was that we were going to go away from this being more of a committee, like we saw last year. And like we've seen sometimes in the past there, and that this was finally going to be the year where they were going to put a little more on him, let him take on more of a workhorse role. And that's got to get you excited because this is a back that we've seen him do this before. We have seen him step up, put up quality fantasy seasons. I know it seems like a long time ago, going back to like his rookie season when he was a top 10 fantasy back over the first seven weeks before he tore the ACL. And then we've kind of had a mix since then. He comes back the next year. He's the RB six and fantasy points per game. In 2023 did a lot of that. At the end of the season, the final month, he was the second highest scoring back behind only CMC. And that got you really excited. It was like Brees halls back. We're going to go into 2024. He's going to make it happen. And then since then it's just been kind of a downward slide, right? And part of that's been the quarterback situation. Part of that's been the jets. Just haven't been a very good team. I think we can all admit that even jets fans would probably agree with that. But now this guy's still 25 years old. He's not. Not old. We know he has that elite upside if he can stay healthy. And you hate to see the injury in the preseason here. You hate to see him missing time. It sounds like he will be back. You know, if not for week one, though, it seems like week one is likely then very, very early, maybe week two or something like that. This is not going to keep him out for a while, but whenever that injury seal gets broken, you're a little bit concerned, right? Could there be an aggravation? Could there be some sort of like cascade injury where he's compensating? And then he ends up hurting himself in a, in a different way. So all those things are there, but when you get to the range that he's going in, like my question is, who are you bumping above him or below him? Like in that area, to me, he really belongs around RB 14 RB 15, because the guys below him have just as many red flags or question marks. The guys that are below him, by the way, is I pull this in here or I guess that are like 14 is Josh Jacobs on this. The guys that are above him, Jeremiah love is still there in Javante Williams. So Josh Jacobs, Jeremiah love Javante Williams are all flowing in there. So one other thing I'd ask you, Boone is what do you think is the driving force of the ADP difference? Let's not use injury because I don't know if injury has adjusted the ADPs or anything like that enough. It's either gotta be the lack of offensive support, just as a jets player or the three running back system. What do you think drives the ADP? Cause this is one of those where experts are liking him more than any draft person is. And he continuously falls. We see that every single year. Not that three spots feel significant, but it's, it's significant enough to go from 14 down to 17. What do you think the main, if you had to pick one driver of why people aren't pushing the button on breeze hall versus what experts are saying? Probably recency bias, what he's done the last couple of years, like RB 18 and fantasy points per game in 2024, RB 21 last year. So more like the range that ADP has him in at the moment. It's a bit of a projection to look at him and say, Hey, this year could be better. This could be a, a bit of a bounce back. Maybe the jets are actually a little better. Cause I would argue that that offense that we tried to talk ourselves into it before in the last couple of seasons this year, they bring in Gino Smith. Hopefully you just give them average quarterback play. They don't need a superstar there. They brought in some other names. Now you look at the skill position talent that they have, you know, around breeze and in that offense talk about Garrett Wilson, 80 Mitchell. We're getting a lot of buzz about him having a connection with Gino Smith. I think Kenyon Sadiq at tight end is somebody that everyone's forgotten about a first round rookie. Who's also dealing with an injury. So he's not out there to get that preseason and that training camp buzz, but he's going to be back early in the year. He's going to be a factor in this offense. Hopefully Omar Cooper jr. Comes along at some point. It seems like his launch is a little delayed here. It might take him a little longer to get going in this offense, but I think you can tell yourself a story that this team is much better this year. They're more competitive and that would help breeze hall, obviously, because taking a running back, on a team that looks like they're going to be one of the worst in the league that often doesn't work out for fantasy. That's normally not a great situation. I'm still scared about the Frank Reich of it all. I don't know how many people are worried about that when it comes to ADP and more casual drafters, but Frank Reich is the offensive coordinator is one thing that kind of keeps me in check. Really this range though. Like I said, it's so tight. Like when you talk about him, you talk about Jeremiah love, who's also dealing with an injury that could keep him out early in the season could linger even a high ankle sprain. That's not something you want to hear. to hear from a running back. Guys like Travis Achan, guys like DeAndre Swift, people that are splitting backfields, like we'll see what happens with the Alvin Kamara injury. But like I said, there are other kind of warts on these backs in that range that you can't feel super excited about them. You can still look at Brees Hall, though, and say, man, he's not that old. There's a chance that he could really get it going still. And we've seen him do it before. Andrew Erickson. Hey there, Hat Brother. What do you think, Hat Brother? ECR 14 versus ADP 17. What side are you on for Brees Hall? I am also on the ECR side here. I also have him ranked right around this range. And I know, Walsh, you said that the ADP isn't being impacted by the injury. I think it is. Because when you're in a real life draft, drafting these players, and you see a player with the injury tag next to them, I think that causes you, from a mental standpoint, to be a little gun shy. I meant more the numerical, like the 17 ADP. I don't think we have gotten the push of it. But I agree that. Oh, so you don't think that's even impacting the injury? So you think it could go even further down? No, no. I just don't think that ADP has had. I don't think the injury has had enough time for ADP to be impacted. I'm not saying it's not being impacted. You know how sometimes it can take a couple weeks for. Stefan Diggs still has not adjusted to ADP based on where he's being ranked. I'm more just saying I don't think we've seen enough. There's been enough time since the injuries happened to see ADP have him fall even further. That's all. But I completely agree. The injury tag affects ADP. And that's more of a real-time ADP thing, which, by the way, I was looking to see if we've seen any real-time ADP adjustments. And I'm going to have to keep looking because I'm not seeing Breece Hall here. But keep going on. Yeah, no adjustment on real-time ADP. Okay, so he's still around 17? Yeah, he's still 17. So we haven't even seen him fall further. So maybe I'm wrong. I just don't think there's been enough time since the injury to see ADP him drop, you know, two more spots or anything like that. I think it points to. And Boone mentioned this, the range of other running backs he's going in, right? This is the coined RB dead zone rounds three, four, five, six. And although the dead zone has changed in recent years, it's basically just the running backs that if we felt really good and confident about Breece Hall, he'd be going into round one and two, right? It's like the next tier running backs where it's like, okay, you can make the case, but you also have all these holes that you can poke. Obviously, Breece Hall plays for the New York Jets. He has a groin injury. These are the red flags. These are the red flags that he's accompanying him when we're drafting him or looking to consider him in 2026. But I agree with Boone with the upside case for Breece Hall as a player once upon a time was viewed as a top five locked and loaded fantasy football running back, a three down skill set, an elite receiver out of the backfield. That's how you unlock a ceiling with running back. So when you look at RBs that can beat the dead zone, it's guys that catch passes. And Breece Hall is attached to a non-mobile quarterback. So I know that we all get concerned about, well, hey, Chan, like he's going to catch enough passes from him. Like Willis, Breece Hall is going to catch a ton of passes from Geno Smith, like a 35 year old quarterback who is a statuesque pocket passer. Yes, we have concerns about Frank Reich, but we know Frank Reich is not going to be running Geno Smith in any way, shape or form. If anything, he'll invite more running back dump off passes to Breece Hall out of the backfield. So I think that if you are betting on upside, Breece Hall is still the pick here. And that's why I also have him closer to the ECR than the ADP. And let's look at it this way. Like there was. There was talk last year that the Chiefs might've been interested in trying to trade for Hall before the deadline and that they couldn't figure out on the compensation. And so it never happened. And then I was hopeful that he was going to leave New York and free agency, obviously signs the contract and he sticks around. What if he did end up going to the Chiefs, whether through trade or he ends up signing there in the off season, wouldn't we kind of be looking at him like almost how we're looking at Kenneth Walker right now? Like, wouldn't he be going in the second round at least maybe at the one to turn like that lends itself to what you were just saying, Erickson. Like, I think that's a good point. That is totally a realistic outlook if he had gone to a team like the Chiefs in a backfield like that. I also think we should just mention quickly and we're kind of hinting at it, but after the second round, there is a big drop off in terms of like how confident you feel about the running backs you're drafting. And then the next one comes and it's even bigger at that point in my mind, at the end of like the fifth round, maybe it sneaks into like the early sixth, but by the end of the fifth, there is like a cliff that happens there and any running back you're getting after that has massive. Massive concerns. Will some of them turn out and be good? Yeah, of course. But when I'm kind of looking at drafts and where I want to get running backs, that's another reason why I'm trying to go running back heavy. I like to grab at least one, but often two in the first two rounds. Would you guys agree that in full PPR, Brees Hall would be a little bit higher in your rank? Just you don't have to do a big breakdown, but would you agree he's like slightly or is it the same? It would probably be similar for me. Okay, similar. Okay. I did find one anomaly. You guys can check out real time ADP. We've got it on Facebook. Just type in fantasy pros, real time ADP or real ADP will get you there. That will show you 24 hour changes in ADP or seven days. There was no half PPR change in Brees Hall, but he did drop over two RV spots in full PPR in the last seven days on real time ADP. So that's where we're seeing the drop on Brees Hall. Maybe that is more. I would guess that's more injury relevant. And by the way, drop down to 17 in full PPR. So he was a little bit higher. So I kind of thought that was interesting. If you're taking a look at that. All right, let's go into the next running back here. This is ECR 20 versus ADP 24 Erickson. This is gonna be an interesting one for you. This is Travion Henderson. Travion Henderson being ranked higher by rankers. Again, top 20 rankers have him as the 20th RB, but he is going at RB 24. Erickson has done no favors to his value after talking to beat reporters and screaming about Ramondre Stevenson being the number one. So I kind of think I know where we're going to go with this, but Erickson, we'll start with you. ECR versus ADP Travion Henderson, which side? Just like I was at Patriots training camp amongst the crowd. No media credentials. I'm a man of the people when it comes to Travion Henderson. So I'm going with the ADP rank of him, which is a lower than the ECR at RB 20 RB 24. I actually have Henderson even lower than the ADP because peek behind the curtain. I have this giant document for everything. Fantasy football related on my computer. The number one thing, just the first thing I put in at the beginning of the season. First thing in my notes, Ramondre Stevenson isn't going away anytime soon. That is the first thing that I made a note of after the season ended. Yeah. And it still hasn't changed. He was better than Travion Henderson last year. Averaged more fantasy points per game last year. Henderson averaged 8.6 fantasy points per game when Stevenson was healthy. The three games that Stevenson missed, Henderson scored 14. More fantasy points per game. Like those were the monster performances that we remember the upside case for Henderson. They all came for the most part when Stevenson was not in the lineup. But Ramondre in second half of the year, RB seven in points per game after week 13 throughout the postseason, 15.4 points per game and half PPR. I mean, the guy was a low end fantasy RB one, and I get that he's not the sexy explosive second round pick that the Patriots drafted in 2025, but he's a player that. This team is in love with he fumbled the ball so many times last year and he continued to get opportunities and credit to the Patriots coaching staff. They didn't give up on him and he proved that they were right because of the second half turnaround he had when he finally got healthy. He was fifth and explosive run rate last year. Missed tackle rate yards after contact per attempt. He was number one in rushing yards over expectation. So he was really good last year. And I think that he's being faded for the wrong reasons. I get Stevenson or the Henderson is the sexy piece of this back. But for me, it's Stevenson is going to be the RB one. And don't be surprised when we see the Patriots take the field against the Seahawks. And Ramondre Stevenson is out there for the majority of the first drive in the snaps for the most of the season, at least to start the year for sure. Mr. Justin Boone. Another interesting thing. When you look at real time ADP, we actually are also seeing a tiny bit of a slide. So if I do you one more, if his ADP is 26 and the top 20 rankers have him at 20 ECR or ADP, which side strong hands built America and kept it running for 250 years. Here's to the bravery of lineman, the endurance of truckers, the skills of welders, the traditions upheld by farmers and all American tradesmen sharing in our work ethic Copenhagen celebrating American craftsmanship proven since 1822 warning this product is not a safe alternative. The cigarettes. Hey, this is Hayes Davenport and Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network. Our show is extremely accessible to first time listeners. 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I was not. I have been dragged kicking and screaming towards the remandre side. I thought we would see a full offseason. We would see Henderson just slowly win this coaching staff over. We've seen that before with young, talented backs that have high draft capital and that are explosive. And little by little, they get more comfortable in the offense and they take over the backfield. And the veteran can stick around and still be involved. But they end up being the more valuable fantasy asset. I'm not convinced that's going to happen here. And really, it just comes down to everything we've heard out of New England. Like from the coaching staff to the beat writers, everyone is saying that what Erickson's saying here, that Stevenson is still that guy. And that the things that they've challenged Henderson to do to be better in pass pro, to be a better between the tackles runner, he hasn't proven that to them yet. So they're going to continue to go with the guy that they trust, with the veteran back in Stevenson. Will it be a 50-50? 55-45 kind of split? Maybe. That's why they're so close and they're both going to have value. And I think this offense in general is going to be much better. You bring in the weapons at receiver, A.J. Brown, Romeo Dobbs. They're going to be better through the passing game. They saw a ton of stacked boxes last year. Now having those weapons downfield, that's going to force defenses to respect them a little more. So this backfield is going to have success. But I do think that it's going to be Stevenson, who is the guy that probably has a better fantasy season this year. Still going as the cheaper back between the two. So I've drafted him a lot more. I will say early in the season, though, they have a very tough schedule for fantasy backs. They've got to go up against Seattle, which we've mentioned. Tough run defense there. The Steelers, the Jags. So could get off to a bit of a slow start. If you remember the playoffs last year, Ramondre was leading the way, but they were going up against difficult run defense after difficult run defense, as normally happens in the playoffs. And Ramondre was getting more work, but Ramondre wasn't having big, big fantasy games during those weeks. So keep that in mind. This backfield might start slow, but I do still think that Stevenson is the way to go for fantasy. And I don't really want to get involved with Henderson and pay up, even though there are still paths towards him returning value towards him ending up as the guy. It probably mostly involves Stevenson getting hurt, but there are still paths for him. It's just very risky where you have to take him. So interesting. The Henderson just narratives we've had from last year to early season to where it's moved to Ramona. I'm, I've been a reminder. Andre guy as well. And you can see ADP real-time ADP is at 26 right now at RB 24 is what you see on standard top 20 rankers have them at 20. I mean, it's kind of all over the board. There's a lot of different narratives to go with. So, you know, we'll see if there's some changes in the top 20 most accurate rankers from last year, or if they're just wrong and public sentiment is more of the place to go at 26. One more running back to hit here. Probably the most popular, no longer a sleeper. He's graduated from sleeper. Jonathan Brooks. Nobody has been more polarizing in the wanting to draft him range and his ADP. It's it's high rising the ADP that I've got. I'll give you real-time ADP in a second, because if we're being Frank, this is going a lot higher. It shows up at 35. So that's a top three running back a flex running back, if you will, versus an ECR that's got him at 39. And again, top 20 rankers got him at 39. I'll give you updates on what the full looks like in any real-time ADP. But. ECR versus ADP, 39 versus 35 top three running back versus a fourth running back. Justin Boone, where are you at with Jonathan Brooks, ECR or ADP? I'm on the ADP side and I'm even higher, though. I thought that we would be talking about his ADP being much higher because in the drafts that I'm in right now, he goes even higher than RB 29 most of the time. And I kind of got like, I don't know if lucky is the right word, but I put out a video on him from one of our shows. And it was me talking kind of like I just did about the Henderson-Romandre thing where I had bumped Brooks over Hubbard. And then 24, 48 hours later, we find out about the Hubbard injury. And then everyone is like, all right, Brooks now is the guy. Let's go get him. He's going to have a great season. I still have some reservations about that. So that's why it feels weird that I'm going to sit here and like argue the higher side because they have the toughest schedule for fantasy backs this year. I still think once Hubbard's healthy, he's going to be involved. But I get why the crowd is so excited about this. It's a great story coming back from the ACL tears and still being a young back that could have a great career and could emerge in this offense. So all of that is there. I also think when it comes to like the ADP like that, every fantasy manager wants to get that next breakout, that next sleeper type guy, especially when it's a young player, young player with a great story. So I feel like everyone is on board here wanting that hype just pushed up. And that's getting him into it. It's getting him into a range where even I haven't been taking him because I've seen him go off the board as the RB 25, RB 26 and some recent drafts. So for me, I guess I'm ahead of things and I'm with the ADP side, but I'm not 100% convinced that he is going to have this breakout season and be that true difference maker for fantasy in part because the offense, the offensive line injuries they're dealing with the schedule that they have to go against. So him coming back and just making, you know, a decent fantasy. Season, just being part of this backfield would be an awesome story, right? To come back from those injuries. I'm not expecting him to come back and turn into a top 12, top 15 kind of back. I'll say, though, I think hidden in there was a little bit of wanting to say ECR, because by the way, if you haven't picked up on it, ECR versus ADP is also kind of like, are you comfortable with him? What level are you comfortable with him at? You didn't seem quite sold even on like where his cost is going. So maybe there's a little bit of like you're wanting the discount because there are some inherent risks. That's flowing out there. And by the way, the real time ADP, it is adjusted and I'm doing this, but because the standard ADP, if you go to fantasy pros, you're, you're seeing what I'm telling you. But the new ADP is got him up at RB 30. So he has moved up. It's like 10 spots, nine, 10 spots higher, probably going to flow a little bit higher. So when it gets into 28, there's a little bit of a question of like, yes, this is where we have him ranked. But like, are you concerned with some of the risks? So Erickson, I know you've been a big Jonathan Brooks guy when he was going in the thirties and forties. I think we all. I felt comfortable with what we potentially get, but now you are going to be paying closer to cost. Real-time ADP is 30. The ADP of battling against his 34 ECR down into the late thirties. What side are you ECR ADP? I'm also on the ADP side. I think the ECR is just generally lagging. I think that we should be really excited about Jonathan Brooks. He has a clear pathway to becoming the number one running back and cementing his status as the top running back for the Carolina Panthers for the entire 2026 season. Jabba Hubbard has a. String injury. These things tend to linger. And if he tries to come back too quick, he's not blind to what the Panthers are doing here. He doesn't want to lose his job again like he did last year to Rico Dowdle. But if he tries to come back too quick, he retweaks the hamstring injury and then it's just back to the Jonathan Brooks show. So I understand the concerns about Brooks where again, the torn ACLs, he has not played that much at the NFL level. But when he has been, I've been encouraged by what we've seen from him in the preseason and during the NFL regular season. With how he's been used in the first preseason game, he played 80% of the snaps of the starters that suggest to me, hey, this is a guy that's going to probably play the majority of snaps for his offense. And he's a pass catcher. Again, talking about the running backs that were concerned about how do they beat their ADPs? They're receiving threats. He has run 13 routes, not that much combined between the NFL regular season and preseason. He has four targets on 13 routes. That's a 31% target rate. Look at Bryce Young can't see over his office alignment. He's going to be checking in. it down to his running back out of the backfield and that is mr jonathan brooks so i get that there's some concerns about the panthers offensive line it did not look good in the preseason but they also didn't have their starting guards so i do think that they'll be okay and they do have some depth at tackle just in case they don't get any of their main guys back they did address that in the draft and through a free agency i mean he's only 23 years old and understanding that the season-long schedule is tough for jonathan brooks it's not tough in week one against the bears right like like we're gonna see potentially jonathan brooks victory laps all over the place if he has a monster week one against chicago bears and maybe it's a sell high opportunity it's like all right i can get like a stud running back for one good game of jonathan brooks great maybe he's a player we're talking about as a sell high after week one but i think that he's definitely a player that every draft i go into i'm thinking okay where does this home site platform have jonathan brooks in adp and i would draft him one round ahead of where he's going because i think that the sites still have him buried which is why we're seeing it's still so low here and why ecr maybe isn't catching up so that's kind of my approach with jonathan brooks i think that he should be part of your draft plan but just be price sensitive and figure out okay where am i drawing the line where will i not i'm not going to draft jonathan brooks from round four okay that's not happening for me but round six yeah like i'm okay with taking him there i think that you should go through the exercise as well trying to figure out okay where am i comfortable bringing jonathan brooks up which running back tier because especially if you go receiver heavy i think he fits some of these wide receiver heavy builds as a running back can get in the middle rounds really interesting note um because i completely agree with you on the receiving side his real-time adp and ppr full ppr is lagging it's actually at 33 it's gone up but it is lower than the half ppr maybe some to like you know predominant amount of people the new standard is like half ppr but in where he could thrive in a full point per reception he is three spots lower than what they are so interesting ecr versus adp debates and i'd love to hear from people below as well in your level of comfort the rise of jonathan brooks what level of comfort do you have in drafting if you put a comment below and you're following us you're going to give yourself a chance to win a colson loveland autograph jersey boom all you got to do again subscribe to the fantasy pros channel you can drop any comment below you don't have to put your thoughts on jonathan brooks you can put anything but on this or any of the videos when you do so you are automatically entered and we'll be announcing a winner on the channel so turn on notifications so you know when we've got the next great video and you can claim your prize let's jump to wide receivers ecr versus adp there's a couple big crazy ones in this one and let's start with ecr 21 versus ecr 24 there's almost a push of this guy being pushed out of the top uh two wide receivers it's terry mclaurin ecr is 21 adp is 24 this is probably the most gentle of the wide receivers we're going to talk about uh justin let's go with you here ecr versus adp what side are you on with terry mclaurin if you had talked to me a couple weeks ago before stefan digs showed up there i would have said ecr and i even had him higher than that in my rankings now that digs is there he does get bumped down a little bit it is legit target competition i have met wide receiver 23 so i will go with the adp side i still think there is a shot for him to have a really good season coming out of that range and you just go back to two years ago right he had target competition back then as well and he's not as well debo samuel was a little bit younger was still a good player now i think debo's kind of past his prime and those days are over um but you had zach ertz there you had other guys in the offense and yet terry mclaurin had this monster season you know our wide receiver 14 and fantasy points per game over 1100 yards we could see something like that from him again the defense in washington is terrible this team is going to be in a lot of shootout scripts we're going to see these receivers put up uh pretty good points here so i like him but i think people need to react to bump him down a little bit there's a lot of good receivers in that range and we'll talk about some more of them here coming up a lot of good receivers in that area the draft but mclaurin still somebody that i'm targeting digs also somebody that i think you should be targeting because he's a good player and because that washington offense is going to just throw the ball so much we just did a standard mock draft on pros it'll be out soon and we were all just talking about how adps and and most sites are just not caught up to the value of stephanie dig still every single time i ever see him get taken in the last two weeks everyone's we're all like oh man like what a great it's because it's just like people have not queued him up and he's always a good value interesting fact is the real-time adp is actually with mclaurin up uh so again i'm just pointing out if you look at our adp page on fantasy pros there's the adp which is taking aggregates from the sites and then there's a real-time adp which is just uh snapshots of of a smaller time range he is he's adp 24 but his adp in real time has moved up to 24 and that's 22 we're still getting his 24 as the marker but weirdly going in a different direction erickson ecr versus adp where you at with terry mclaurin i'm also on the adp side with the commander's number one wide receiver you mentioned the addition of stephan digs i think that maybe chica conco is still not getting enough credit for maybe being an upgrade from zach ertz i think that he could probably command more targets potentially than zach ertz can especially considering they paid him a hefty chunk of money to come in as their additional pass again we were shouting for the commanders to add another wide receiver to help jayden daniels they added a tight end that catches passes so i do think that he's going to factor into this passing game as well and just looking at terry mclaurin's body of work he has that one season where he scored a bunch of touchdowns the rest of his body of work is okay this guy's been a really solid fantasy wide receiver too i think that's more likely the outcome with him which is why i like him a little bit closer to his adp and then the biggest factor for me which actually caused me to move him actually the injury to laramie tunsil the starting offensive tackle for the washington commanders when i look at what he can do as a pass protector he buys time for jayden daniels now obviously jayden daniels can obviously buy time with his legs but in terms of okay them dialing up long passing plays that's where terry mclaurin thrives as a vertical downfield threat but now okay if the pass protection is not as good does that create more underneath opportunities for players like jayden daniels that's where i think he's going i think he's going to be able to do a lot of things he's not going to be able to do a lot of things he's going to be able to do a lot of things he's going to be able to do a lot of things he's going to be able to do a lot of things he's going to be able to do a lot of things he's going to be able to do a lot of things he's going to be able to do a lot of things he's going to be able to do a lot of things he's going to be able to do a lot of things so i think that yes he is a number one on his team but it's not to the extent that oh he's a dominant alpha wide receiver that is not terry mclaurin he's also 31 coming off an injury plague season does he get hampered by injuries again so for those reasons i'm also closer to the adp here a couple other things that i i want to mention real quick real quick that i'll mention with him we're going to write off last year of course like all the injuries that he had and jayden daniels only played three games together really so that doesn't even factor into my mind and what i'm interested in with him this year is they bring in a new oc and david blau and he's actually talked about moving mclaurin around the formation a little bit more which you always want to hear when you're talking about receivers and them potentially getting more work so i agree with you erickson but i think there's a possibility that in this new offense he does get some more maybe schemed up stuff and put into positions where he's getting some easier targets as opposed to all that stuff downfield one of the positives for the next guy is exactly what you just said a guy that we're excited because he could get moved around working into that z spot move around on the offense could be a big plus it's a mecca egg bucca there's a lot to this one there's a lot of weird changes i mean there's a little injury thing that um just this one ecr versus adp is a bigger gap ecr is 23 now again the top 20 rankers have him as the 23rd wide receiver his adp though it two days ago by the way it was 16 that's moved to 18 the real-time adp is slightly adjusting to 19 so things are closing up there was a seven positional gap between where the top ecr guys had him ranked and where he was going in drafts that's closed down to five it's closing into four so our official number is ecr 23 versus adp of 18 and we're going to talk a little bit more about that team a mecca egg bucca erickson ecr adp i'm on the adp side and this is how it's been all off season as i've kind of kept tabs on where egg bucca has been market price the market has been higher on egg bucca than the consensus rankings for the most part and i think that the market really likes the upside case of a bucca and what we saw in the beginning of last year and that's what i like buying into as well when he was healthy he was a lock to win offensive rookie of the year like he was going to win that award then we saw all the injuries and we saw all the injuries and we saw all the injuries to the buccaneers receivers now he's dealing with an injury so i think that has caused his adp to fall closer to the ecr but if he's healthy i think that he beats wide receiver 23 so that's why i would go with the adp side yeah that's like two in the last i think seven days two spots uh positionally he's gone down probably with the toe thing so mr justin boone ecr versus adp for a mecca egg bucca i'm just a little more worried i know a lot of the injury analysts are out there saying that the type of toe injury it is he'll be out there week one and it shouldn't impact him much but man a toe injury for a receiver sounds so scary to me on top of the usual like injury stuff like i was talking about before where you can have you know other injuries coming from it or aggravations or all that kind of thing but a receiver who needs to change direction a foot injury a toe injury always worried about that so i'm on the ecr said i've moved him down a bit here i've met wide receiver 22 i know what he did last year i wanted to be in on him but this is one injury spot where like i'm not going to be in on him like i'm just kind of scared and it's so easy to tell the story about how good he was early last season but remember It was kind of injuries that helped derail his season last year, too. It was his injury and also like basically everybody on that offense got hurt. So we can see this offense being one that rebounds this season. I hope Igbuka is healthy. If he is, he's going to crush me on this one. But I have just moved him down because I'm so worried about that specific injury for a receiver. All right. Our next wide receiver that we're going to jump into has the biggest gap is the biggest gap of any of the players that we're going to talk about. With an ECR of 32 versus an ADP of 22. Now, one little caveat I want to throw into this because you guys know I'm doing the ECR of the top 20 rankers. If we expand to the entire ECR, which is what anybody that goes to the list is going to see. You're going to just see the full ECR unless you do the little drag downs. He's 27. So 22 versus 32 versus, you know, 27. There's a whole lot of gaps that are in here. So ECR versus ADP, Mr. Justin Boone, DJ Moore. What side are you on? I am a Bills fan. If anyone doesn't know that so that we can factor that in here, my below bias. I am on the side of ECR, I guess, mathematically, though. Maybe I'm right in the middle here, to be honest. I want to be excited about him. But this is the one where let's go back to like the Terry McLaurin thing we were talking about. This range of receivers. And it kind of runs from like round three, round four, all the way to around six, round seven. There are a ton of good receivers in there. Guys that I want to target. DJ Moore is one of them. He can still get it done. Like this guy is a good player. He's 29 years old. He's still got some gas left in the tank here. And I know we fell out of favor in Washington or in Chicago for a variety of reasons. But last year down the stretch, we still saw him pop up three top seven weekly fantasy finishes in the second half of the season. And he's. He's been that top target in an offense before, right? Had over 90 catches in three of his last five seasons. So you're pairing him with Allen, with Joe Brady, who he has a history with. I think we're going to get another good year out of DJ Moore. I see the upside case for him. I don't know. I guess because I'm in the middle, I can go either way on it. So I, the hopeful side of me wants to say I'm with ADP though. I have not been taking him in that range at all. I have taken him when he falls more. More to wide receiver 27, because I do think the bills are still going to spread things around and yet they haven't had a receiver like him since digs a receiver that they can look at and be that playmaker for them. I think he's going to come in and get a lot of work. That's what we've seen so far in practices. So the hopeful side of me, and again, put a little caveat, little asterisks on there because I'm a bills fan. Um, but I think he's somebody you should be targeting. I'm just not willing to pay up the wide receiver 22. Price. Well, it's interesting. So then you're kind of like the East. Cause again, backtracking it 32 is the ECR for the top 20 most accurate rankers from last year, but the full ECR with everybody who's ranking right now is actually 27 and his ADP is still 22. So the biggest gap is 10 between the top 20 rankers and ADP, but the middle side, which you obviously live in, I think you would take that is the 27 there. So Erickson, same thing for you. Huge gap here. You don't get, you're not going to get to play the middle side here. You got to just take ECR or ADP. This is the biggest difference we have of any player on this one. I mean, you're not going to get to play the middle side here, but you're not going to get to play the middle side here. 22. I know why the ECR the top 20 is bringing him down because Fitzy is definitely low on DJ more. We talked about him on players that will lose your leagues and Fitzy mentioned DJ more as one of those players. So I think that is holding some weight here. I couldn't go that far as to looking at DJ more in that lens because body of work six of the last seven seasons wide receiver 22 or better. So similar to Terry McLaurin besides that one outlier season with the Bears when he was I think a top 10 receiver with Justin Fields. He's mostly been like a steady fantasy wide receiver too. And then last year obviously things kind of fell off with him being phased out of the Ben Johnson offense. So I agree with Boone where I still think he has gas left in the tank and something that interesting that they noted on the athletic podcast. Robert Mays was talking to one of the bills reporters the mantra and Boone it correctly if I'm wrong here the mantra this offseason hasn't been everybody eats like they actually haven't said that nearly as much and what what's changed right. It's like a chicken to the egg conversation. Well everybody eats when you don't have a number one guy. Well you get the number one guy and all of a sudden oh well it's not everybody eats anymore. It's we feature our best players. Those are the guys that get the ball the most. So I'm leaning more on the optimistic side a little bit here with DJ more full disclosure. He's not necessarily like I have to have DJ more in all my drafts. I don't view him through that lens but it's like hey I'm looking for a wide receiver. He's on the board. He's in the conversation for me because it's still a new quarterback wide receiver pairing that always invites an extra layer of risk because we just don't necessarily know how they will gel. But in terms of the skill set and projecting them DJ more is a perfect fit for what this offense has been lacking with Josh Allen. So I do think that ultimately he offers a floor that's probably not being recognized enough at wide receiver 32. I think that he's going to be a top 30 wide receiver. So that's why I push back against the ECR. And I mean if we're just putting it in the most simplest of terms he's playing with the best quarterback of his career. And if you just looked at that last year with George Pickens going to Dallas that's all you needed. And he was a mega smash hit because he was playing with Dak Prescott. So ultimately I'm going to have to side with ADP here. Okay. I was right in the middle. I like that you both win ADP. You both went on the higher side of it. The tricky part to help explain my situation with him is I just really like the guys ahead of him as well. I have Christian Watson just ahead of him Parker Washington Jamison Williams. So it's hard for me to move him up even though I want to. And that's why the solution is hit running back heavy. And then when you get to this range of the draft just keep hitting these receivers. Yeah I don't I don't disagree with that whatsoever. Very good strategy point. One more wide receiver we're going to talk about. This is a big difference. And this is the difference between this wide receiver being a startable wide receiver in a three wide receiver core and not 30 to 38 is Cortland Sutton. Very divisive guy this year. I know Debra loves Cortland Sutton. His ECR is at 30 but his ADP is 38. There's a huge gap. But I'm because we're seeing it in the opposite direction. Sometimes ADP is going ahead. The top 20 accuracy accurate rankers have him as a 30th wide receiver but people aren't touching it. It is outside the top 36. Erickson why don't you kick us off here. Cortland Sutton ECR or ADP. I'm on ADP side and it feels like it might be a mistake because I know what Cortland Sutton can offer an offense. But when I just look at the numbers from last year and this is not even considering the fact that they bring back. All the same receivers I had in the team last year and then you're adding Jalen Waddle to the fold after they traded a first round pick to get him. Sutton was not an alpha last year. Sub 20 percent target share 60 receiving yards per game. A lot of his production came with touchdowns. He had 19 red zone targets which ranked top five in the NFL. But I just don't think the volume is going to be nearly as much as it was last year when you're throwing in a player like Jalen Waddle into the NFL. So I'm not going to be eating into Cortland Sutton's targets routes last year and the reports at training camp are Pat Bryant is going to be potentially doing that this season as a second year player. So I just got concerns about Cortland Sutton not being able to sustain what he did last year against fiercer target competition before the week 12 by week last year. He was outside the top 30 wide receivers and points per game. His yards per route run have dropped for three consecutive seasons. He's going to be 31 years old. So to me it's you know it's going to be a lot of work to Yes. Can he beat wide receiver 38 probably. But is he going to be a locked and loaded top 20 guy like he was last year. I mean 124 plus targets back to back seasons has not finished higher than wide receiver 11. Like that is really strong target volume and it really hasn't paid off in the ceiling type of outcome that you'd expect from a player seeing that much volume seeing that much red zone usage that really hasn't happened for Cortland Sutton. So again maybe I'm wrong about where he actually ends up finishing here. He beats wide receiver 38 but he's going to be if he finishes wide receiver 30 wide receiver 35 like I think that's more like his real range of outcomes. So I'm on the side of ADP here. By the way real time has moved him one spot even lower if you want to look at that. So he's going down to 39. So ECR 30 to real time 39 ECR ADP Justin. You're not wrong Erickson. I haven't met wide receiver 46. This is a no fly zone. Do not there unless a bunch of injuries happen around him. And if a bunch of injuries happen you're just going to get what you had last year which was a guy that barely cracks a thousand yards has seven or eight touchdowns wide receiver three with like wide receiver two upside if he finds the end zone. No thank you. Waddle's there. Waddle is the number one. That's how they're talking. Pat Bryant's coming on to take over as the number two guy. This offense threw a ton last season and Sutton only put up those numbers. So now he's got legit target competition. Not somebody that I want. And when you think about the other receivers in that range I would take Stefan Diggs over him. I would take Chris Godwin over him. I would even much rather go after a couple guys in the rookies that have been falling a little bit in ADP and Jordan Tyson and Mackay Lemon because their injuries. I'd rather take those guys knowing they're probably going to start slow and just hope that when they're healthy and when they get going this season they can give you more than Sutton can because the ceiling is not there uh the full ecr of him by the way is 36 hope everybody's falling i know i'm throwing a lot like real-time adp and top 20 accuracy and stuff but the actual just like blanket ranks ecr is 36 but that's still a top starting wide receiver in the three wide receiver format it's a very interesting conversation around courtland sutton uh and i feel like it's become divisive but i just thought it was so fascinating that the higher accuracy people for at least from last year had sutton so high so take that for what it is on where you guys are at uh we are going to do a quarterback and a tight end one but before we do whether you are fully prepped for your drafts or it's last minute let fantasy pros draft assistant be your guide expert recommendations for every pick real-time alerts and predictions for which players are going to make it back to you you can also create cheat sheets you can put your favorite rankers in you can put erickson and boone together and you can get an ecr of them and a cheat sheet however you want to set it up let fantasy pros be your ultimate cheat code for your fantasy draft this season go to fantasypros.com slash assistant or you go download the fantasy pros app make your drafting the easiest part of the entire season not the most stressful part all right quarterback in tight end for the last two here you guys don't have to go nuts with it but this one i i thought again with like staring at like the fascinating part of like where people are drafting versus what ecr is matthew stafford at quarterback i think is very polarizing finishing at the top end of quarterbacks last year yet he is ecr 18 at quarterback but adp he is up there as a starter at 12 so he's being drafted in adp as a starting fantasy quarterback this season but rankers they don't want him there so justin what do you think ecr versus adp for matthew stafford this year i think he is 38 years old and i think he had a huge season last year and it's incredible when you're a pocket passer like that and you can come through and end up being a top five fantasy quarterback on a per game basis he's throwing for you know over 4700 yards 46 touchdowns that touchdown total is more than he had accumulated the two years prior combined are we going to see him get back there to that like uber elite level in terms of his passing stats i just don't think it's likely there's concerns with davante adams in my mind he turns 34 in december seem like this off season they were kind of flirting with some other guys there was talk that they were in the mix potentially for aj brown there was talk that they were in the mix for stefan diggs i think they see the writing on the wall father time is undefeated he will come for us all except for maybe derrick henry who i think is going to play forever but he is going to eventually start to sap davante adams production a little bit more and last year even his production was pretty much touchdown based and we know the deal with quarterbacks right if you're trying to find that qb2 that can get up into the qb1 range the easier way to do it is by chasing the quarterback and then you're going to have to be chasing the guys that can run the ball and last year in the top 12 fantasy quarterbacks nine of them rushed for over 350 yards if you're not one of those guys you have to have this incredible season through the air and expecting that stafford at that age with his injury history with an offense that like you you can call it like a house of cards right you pull out one piece if there's an injury and all of a sudden it's not the same offense i'm just concerned and i don't think there's a real good shot that he's going to get back to anywhere near that range or even potentially the top 10 they're like one glass door away from being a really bad offense so completely agree just keep them safe please couple notes this is one of those instances where the the top 20 accurate ecr people have him the lowest because his overall ecr when you put everybody is actually 15 so 18 for the top 20 guys overall ecr he's 15 adp he's 12 looking we take a multitude of of of sources and sites uh for adp by the way yours yahoo you guys are the lowest on matthew stafford so that tracks but there is a there is a site that has him eight overall so inside the top 10 so i'm just giving you lots of stuff that are ranking out there so ecr versus adp erickson you've been pumping your fists like you're loving this negative talk here so i feel like you're going to be on the ecr side but ecr or adp quarterback is so deep this year there's no reason to draft matthew stafford in any way shape or form and take on all the risk that justin moon just outlined with him career high 7.7 passing touchdown rate last season part of that was because they were spamming red zone targets to davante adams to get matthew stafford the mvp award that's just not going to be part of the recipe this year in 2026 i also think the rams defense is significantly better than it was last year i don't think the rams feel like they need to win because stafford's going to be throwing for 404 touchdowns every season i think that they went out and proved their defense so that stafford doesn't have to shoulder as much of the load like he did last year when he won the mvp so i think that again going back to how deep quarterback is when i'm ever doing my quarterback rankings i i'm moving guys up and down i'm like i like this guy i like this guy the one guy that i always find myself never liking to draft in any capacity is matthew stafford we got to get a tight end here there wasn't a ton of crazy variants but i did find this one interesting this the ecr adp is more about one thing it's about a starting tight end fantasy or not the ecr is 13 the adp is 11 and it's isaiah likely what side are you on ecr versus adp the real-time adp hasn't really adjusted so this is about him being a starter erickson final one here isaiah likely ecr non startable 12 team tight end or startable adp where he is at 11 tight end and fantasy this year i'm i like isaiah likely a lot still this year i still think that he has a top five type of ceiling we saw that with baltimore when mark andrews missed games 11 fantasy points per game that would have been equivalent to the tight end five in points per game last season and i know there was a lot of gloom and doom about isaiah like these usage in the first preseason game for the giants when theo johnson was playing more overall snaps than he was but when i looked at it i was really encouraged by it they had seven total dropbacks with the starters between the first two games jackson dart and jamis winston on the first two drives isaiah likely ran six routes on seven dropbacks that's 86 percent route participation that is elite for a fantasy tight end more importantly isaiah likely had two targets both of which came on third down who did the giants lose last year big receiver wandale robinson or not a big receiver but a big target receiver he was their guy on third downs he was jackson dart's guy on a lot of those third down conversions and at least so far what we've seen in the preseason during training camp is that dart and likely have developed a lot of chemistry especially with malik neighbors not participating fully in team drills and joint practices well isaiah likely he's been out there every single day catching passes from his quarterback i also was encouraged that he's running a lot of his routes from the slot as well so you get isaiah likely big slot sizzin so for me i think that he's going to be dark's check down option and if neighbors is just not all the way back especially the first month of the season i think is a really really good pick especially as a late round tight end that can actually be a difference maker in your lineup so i'm going with the adp here quick question i'm going to throw at you guys what do you think there are more of people having likely ranked inside the top eight at tight end or people having him not as a top 20 tight end what do you think is more likely to start with you erickson not as a top people have them outside the top 20 yes what which one is which one do you think there's more of non-top 20 tight which one's more likely eight or top eight um it's got to be top eight yeah i think there's enough to be bullish i think i would probably do that yeah you guys are incorrect there are more people that do not have isaiah likely as a top 20 tight end than there are that have them as a top eight that is in the individual rankers on fantasy pros so throwing it to you boone i'm gonna guess you are you gonna buy adp here well have they not updated since january or something because i situation for him is exciting i had him a little bit higher around that that same range as erickson when we thought neighbors might start the season a little bit slower i think now we can feel a little more confident that neighbors even if he does get off to a slow start is gonna be out there closer to what we've seen his peak be in the past so that caused me to bump likely down just a bit but he's in a pack it's really like him and dallas goddard are the last two guys that i am confident to draft as my tight end one i have met tight end 13 right now but you could flip those guys either way in my mind the way i'm approaching tight end this year is you know try to get an elite guy if you can get them at a decent value i really like tyler warren who in my mind could be elite but is a little bit cheaper as long as this injury this groin injury is okay if not tucker craft or george kittle try to get the injury discounts there and if not those guys then you grab from this last pack of dalton kinkade or goddard or likely so i still really like him i'm you know a little bit further down i guess by a couple spots than erickson but i'm confident that he's gonna have a good season as the de facto number two receiver for the giants you know and fun thing this is uh that's hidden in this episode if you guys like kind of read through it there's a always a heavy amount of conversation of like you know screw adp get your guys yeah get your guys absolutely and in this instance this is kind of a conversation about the experts if you want to use air quotes if you're that type of person that needs air quotes that experts are differing from ADP. So you as a listener, listener can do the same thing this is a conversation around being comfortable with your guys regardless of what adp is saying you can create your own cheat sheets at fantasy pros you can pick a couple people whatever it is maybe you're really really great at this and you all your study don't be afraid to go with your rank over what adp is telling you that's what this conversation is about but we're just having kind of a macro level of it by using ecr and by using you know one of the most accurate rankers in the land justin boone justin boone you can follow him on twitter check him over at yahoo sports him and harman a plus in the land uh boone we really appreciate your time my friend i i appreciate you guys got a chance to hang out with erickson at the fantasy expo this year we had a great time hopefully we'll get to do that every year and yeah anytime you guys need a guest you always know i'm happy to jump on we appreciate you man and if you guys want to hang out with uh the rest of the fantasy pros crew and more august 26 3 p.m eastern it is fantasy pros fantasy fest you can join us and we'll see you next time bye tons of guests where we're talking rankings tears sleepers bus league winners we're going to be mock drafting we've got giveaways and we've even got an after party on our twitch where you guys can do more mock drafting with us and hopefully you do it erickson's going to be there me and erickson aren't paired together but there's going to be a bunch of big great fantasy pros people i think it's me and deborah a whole bunch but come and check us out august 26 live on our youtube youtube.com slash fantasy pros 3 p.m eastern august 26 that is going to do it 80 adp versus ecr you guys let us know in the comments what sides you are on we'd love to hear from you for andrew erickson and justin boone i'm chris welsh good luck in your drafts and we'll talk to you next time right here on fantasy pros thanks for listening to the fantasy pros fantasy football podcast if you love the show the best free way to support us is by leaving a positive review on apple podcasts at fantasypros.com slash review or on spotify follow us on x instagram and tiktok at fantasy pros and subscribe to our youtube channel at youtube.com slash fantasy pros strong hands built america and kept it running for 250 years strong hands also keep copenhagen moving today here's to the bravery of linemen the endurance of truckers the skills of welders the traditions upheld by farmers and all american tradesmen sharing in our work ethic copenhagen celebrating american craftsmanship proven since 1822 warning this product is not a safe alternative to cigarettes on august 4th 1962 marilyn monroe died then the rumors started and she died again and now we're going to set the record straight and learn about the history of the fantasy pros about the way marilyn monroe actually died the third way i'm jake brennan and on my podcast hollywood land i revisit some of the biggest stories from hollywood history separating the myths people want to believe from the reality underneath them hollywood land is part of the exactly right network listen to new episodes every monday on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts on big lives we take a single cultural icon people like jane fonda george michael little richard and we pull apart the story behind the image discovering forgotten interviews that change exactly how we see these giants of our culture we're here for the messy the brilliant the human version of our heroes i'm emmanuel jochi i'm kai wright and this is big lives listen to big lives on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts welcome to on the field today's hottest sports stories presented by on nicotine pouches breaking news here the invitational is officially launching this october big names big swings even bigger energy the top golf partners all under one roof at the sofa center sounds awesome get all the details at on nicotine.com products for tobacco consumers 21 years of age or older warning this product nicotine is an addictive chemical this is an iheart podcast guaranteed human Thank you.