É8 – Et si l’activité physique après l’accouchement était la clé d’un retour au travail réussi? Avec Sarah Baribeau

This balado was presented by the head of the company "Latel Churches" and "Experience Employed". Because we believe that human resources are an incontourable goal of the success of a strategy to do. And behind this strategy, there are chiefs who speak. [Music] Do you know that practicing physical activity after the treatment can reduce 45% of the risk of postnatal depression? To discuss, we receive Sarabaribo. We help these kinesiologists at Bujot and Placotin. Welcome to this eighth episode of Parlonschiff. [Music] Hello everyone, very happy to meet you. I am Alexandre Contois, founder of "Experience Employed". And you listen to Parlonschiff. Today, we are interested in a really encouraging statistic because practicing physical exercise after the treatment can reduce 45% of the risk of postnatal depression. In what the movement can be a well-known and how to adapt this activity to the need for women in the period of postpartum? To discuss, we receive Sarabaribo, founder of these kinesiologists at Bujot and Placotin. A very specialized network of pregnant women. Sarabaribo is an animation. Thank you. Thank you from the point of view of us. You who support mothers in the daily life, how do you receive this statistic? And why is the impact so important? It is really happy to be able to study it. And you have to put in context that it is a study of children. That is to say that you have recently received a lot of studies to be able to offer a guide to a new mother. The director's link to say what she can do. And the objective is that it is such a very important period to be able to work in the life of a woman. So we want to try to reduce the risk of the practice of physical exercise. In my opinion, what are all the benefits she can get from it? Well, in my opinion, when I had Bujot and Placotin, the postnatal rehabilitation, like this, for about 14 years. So this was like a validation of saying what we do. It's really relevant. So I really did not surprise you. And we know that yes, for the population of the postpartum period, but we are sure that the amount of physical exercise, and now that you have reduced the risk of depression, points to the line on the world. Hello Sarab. Listen, we had the opportunity to cross the realm of the Prie, the fedeans in Quebec. And I discovered your dynamite, but when I saw this statistic, I told myself that we are talking about it together, because you directly have to support women in their remise in the form. I would like to bring to this discussion that women have to go back to work at the time of birth, after a long journey. And they have lived for the most part of emotional shock, it's sometimes depression, it's sometimes blue. That's what I think there is. Néchelle is and it complicates the return to work. It's us in the head of the research, we can even see it, it's on a trajectory, it's a real impact. According to you, what would be the concrete actions that companies could put in place to support this new moment? How do we facilitate this transition, knowing that men are the ones who give life, that we have a social role to support these moments? For you, what would be the actions to put in place? I hope it was interesting to use the word "Pathultane", the facilitator. The first thing is that we always have to put in question. To have a child, it's not, I put my child in the world, it's ready to return. There are a lot of changes. And there is also a change in the physical level of logic. So, you have to be careful. It's also to adapt to the new life, to find a scene related to his body, to take his body back. And then, it's like, I'm going to return to work, but I have a skin of plus in my heart. So it can be almost that it's a copy of what it was before. I believe that employers have to see the global image of what is a material chain and a return to work, so to have a kind of continuum in a return to work. It means that, first of all, encouraging the postnatal registration, in fact, I'm not talking about it, but I'm saying that the mothers, sometimes, have collective insurance, but the employer doesn't necessarily encourage them to continue for their collective insurance, during their maternity leave. So, if they can continue, maybe they could have resources for their services in the postnatal registration, but we still talk about mental health. So, the postnatal registration, but it's also great to take time for it, not just to make money at home with a baby. And in the return of work, is it possible to provide a progressive return because it's a kind of human thought that the woman will be able to return with exactly the same horrors, with the same attempts, but with a baby in addition to safety. So, I think that employers have a global vision of saying that we have been doing this for more than a year to come back and find a balance. Is it true, for example, to decrease the hours, to make hours, are progressive, for about a year to reach an agreement. Is it true, or is it a kind of culpabilité for the woman to say, "Kalien, I'm not pregnant with my child, I'm going to be able to take care of it." And so, I have my colleagues and my employees, it's a hat that can be even heavy to wear. And I think that it's a fantastic dress that should be worn out. Yes, to be honest, but I think it's a great awareness to learn. It's either a employer, the person is afraid to have a paternity leave or maternity leave. And we imagine that the person who wants to come will have to take care of it. There's a way to wait for the person to come back. We have a way to come back, because the person was appreciated, was good in what he did, but he was the greatest change in human life. It's the arrival of a child or a second child. Yes, that's true. There's a way to make a conscious and the women often come back and they are not at the same level of energy. That they had before they were a child. So there's still a notion of energy. It's very concrete. They have given them life. Many of the energy, and they want to be so good that they want to. There's a way to do it. There's a way to do it. There's a lot of good evidence to talk about others. We have a heart where it's not necessarily what it says. It says that we continue. There are responsibilities. There are expectations. And we don't need a salar. It's like there's a lot of considerations to learn how to impact the environment, and to trust it. In fact, I'm going to compare a little to the prenatal training. We give a heart. We say, do you want a performance in your training in your big sister? Here's the heart. You know, you can't do anything because it could be dangerous or it wouldn't be the smallest. But if you want a performance, you can perform it in this heart. And if you want to focus on the right, you can perform at work, but if the heart needs to be adapted to what extent it feels like performing in your work, but also performing at home. And I think we need to be agile in the heart we're going to give, at the very moment that comes back to work. I think there is a discussion to be able to wait for you. Because it's inevitable that if we give exactly the same heart as a big sister, we have only one question in the audience. It's certain. The priorities have changed too. The work may be less flat or at least not the same place as the priority. But it doesn't mean we have to be less performing at work. Only if there is a heart that is adapted, that is the heart. When it's at work, it's available to work with people who are realistic. It's like in the physical activity that we want the object to be realistic. And we want to be considered that there is another priority also at home. And it feels like it's not always in two things. It has to be performed but performed at the end of the day. And what are the mistakes and avoid for these young moments that start working? We hope they have started the exercise too. Parou, you have to start. When I was talking about even before the exercise, there is already a training to have some psychological, physical, curious time. What are the mistakes and avoidments? That's right. I was born there. I think it's really good to see the physical activity that we object to be aware of the population, and I believe that we can see the physical activity that is in the personal planning, in their relationship with their body, in their relationship with their body. So, I studied to become a more specialized expert in this field. So, during the exercise, we will recommend, as Mrs. Malam-Tulman, to do 150 minutes of physical activity per week. But there are things to do, not doing well during the exercise. In the period of postnatal, I often compare a stroke that we forget a bit to consider. In the period of postnatal, it is just a stroke. So, there are little things that are stressed, sometimes more than the other. Sometimes, for certain children, it will be very serious. And, contrary to a simple athlete, well, my mom is the first person and she doesn't like it. She is very busy. To me, when I am a maternity, it allows me to have a education and to find a little self-equilibrium. I mean, it's a great idea. Because I don't think I can make it. But, in the sense, it's a great idea. I want to make it a great priority. So, the things that are important, especially in postnatal, it is one of the strength of education that I have heard. Or, you have to start too quickly. You have to really take a year or 9 months before, and then install the boards to recover, to grow my health. Install a new system in my family dynamic. You can put priorities in certain places. So, to find out what really works for you. So, I think that what is really vital is to believe that everything will come to an end with nothing to do. So, it takes some steps. So, it takes a long time to pose conscious actions. Yes. To find a way, to find, to find, to put in a new frame, the elements that we find in a feeling of successful or gratification in a new role, in a new frame. But it doesn't make sense to think about it. I think that we are talking about motivation. But I think that the effort requires a lot of effort. And then, with the benefits that we are going to feel, well, it can really become the motivation. But at the beginning, when we installed something, we tried to talk about the beginning, we tried to try to solve the problems and the famous attitude to talk about the recommendations. The family, of the employer, to have a support to help. It's not a period that is easy. And the mothers can feel that they have a lot of pressure. Exactly. Especially, you talk about the notion of culpabilité. And it's nice to have the objectives and the motivation to move on. But still, we don't have to feel guilty. And I'm even talking about the name of the parents, the culpabilité is easy to take time for care. And then, it is a good parent that they are going to the children. Also, they are connected to each other. So, what do you say to those people to avoid falling into this trap? I love it because at the time, culpabilité is like a way to make it happen. And it's true. It's true. It's true that we are going to find a solution to the culpabilité and, above all, to recognize a kind of... It's a bad emotion. There are some things that we don't feel good or that we feel bad. A game. You know, things like that. That's what I always say. It's a subject of the beginning, the beginning. And I find that it changes very little. And it's true. It's true. It's true. 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That after that, I think that when we take time for ourselves, we are so much of energy, malgring the fatigue that can be there, that the capability will not disappear, because we know that when we take time for ourselves, when we take time for ourselves, when we say we are predisposed, we say we are... It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true that it's a period where the management of the time you explain it well is a challenge. Obviously, we can put an objective, or as you mentioned, to have a discussion in France with his friend and his friend. He said, "Well, but me, I need so much time to establish a certain balance of my family." But without it, it becomes a traditional torch. Do you have anything to integrate the movement in your daily life? Without just planning a two-hour trip to go to Jim the Mercury. It's true that I see my plan with the budget and the costume. You know, I said all the time, we are capable of entering the physical activity, in the life of the moment when the baby is 0 or 1 year old. I said, "I already have it, we are well part of what she wants to continue after." To be able to enter, it's just the physical activity, it's just a trip or whatever, you have to be very beautiful. And that it is also important that a meeting at work, that it can be done, you have to put it in the agenda. This is one of the things, the other thing is to engage people with you. So if it's your work, is there any colleagues that allow you to do the microphone, a group of people? Are there only once a week that we will train together or not a group of courses? First, people who are also mobilized, it's sure that it will help at the level of retention. And it's really a choice. In the sense that, to say, I want to have all the opportunities, maybe it's really exceptional. I think that when we really try something, it's really important. We can go and find ways to try to do things. I think you can see it, but it doesn't matter. You have to be reflected, you have to be aware, you have to plan. What I'm trying to do in your proposal is to become a mother because when we talk about women, they come back to work, their life after the sewage. It's necessary to be able to admit that it's a big change, but not to be able to receive a sewage, but to manage it in full consciousness, to look for support, giving it the right to sometimes be a little less good, sometimes better. Yes, women always have children, but you have to be aware that it changes a life. The sewage will be installed, you have to find a way to manage this area. It's necessary to become a victim of the sewage, because sometimes women are like a vag, to master the sewage. They leave it in place, and it's there sometimes, it doesn't matter. It's good. You don't have to ask yourself, it's like you're the first one to start the sewage. I think we'll come back with the capability. I don't think there's any space for the sewage to be perfect. It's really to be agile, we're talking about it. You don't have to say anything about it, but it's to be agile with that, to accept it, I think we have the choice, to become normal, and to not, I would rather say everything to the army, to ask for support. Do you know anything or if I think I'm going to be able to say I'm capable of all this? Yes. So, to ask for support in any case, it can also be a good idea, but in fact, it's really to be able to handle everything and accept that it will not be perfect, and I come back with the great image and the long term. If you think it's final, I think it's perfect. Yes, it's perfect. It's perfect. It's perfect to have a child. It's a good idea, and it can be very destabilizing. I come back with my easy times, because my facilitators, when I see that there's a lot of people who say, "Oh, why can't I come? I don't have time to have an subscription." And I say, "No, we're going to do sessions." And we have to come to this moment of the day to really install the seam. And I say, "It's already there." They just want to present themselves, and they want small victories. They just want to be beaten up by all of you, to have done the same thing. And moreover, you feel the amigurations. And it's going to be a difference. And this, of course, creates a stability in this chaos. The demand is to say, "Oh, no, I'm really there. I'm really engaged in putting a bomb on my physical activity." And that's it. You can really help the conference as well. But it's time for you to ask a question to all of you. Often, what I've heard from the young mom, is that this period was in a kind of a professional level. However, in this transformation, which comes with the maturity, does there not have any transfer skills that could be valued by companies, whether the management of time, the management of priorities? Is it necessarily a return? What do you think? I am convinced that learning to be really effective. It was a change of approach. It means that in a world of birth, when we have a rare ultra-charging, and that we don't want to waste time, I think that women, especially when they wanted to have a maternity leave, and that we have a lot of changes. We talk a lot about their babies' experiences. So, when they come back to work, often they have a transition to work to be able to balance this change, because they are so much about their babies that they know the babies and they know each other. But they are super effective. And I think that the famous return is also a perception. Because I think there is no code to create for these women. They should have a different return, and do whatever they can to perform. But if you are a performer, don't adapt to your real life, it's not that they will always feel in return. Yes, perception, but I think it's a personal opinion. I think that often women don't see themselves as strong as they can be. And what is being trained in a feeling of lack of energy, lack of equity? And I think that women don't necessarily the right to be strong. I'm interested because it was a trend of science. Because it's true that a woman is less stimulated in something very specific like our work. It's very normal, because it's called a little time to come. But once again, the employer can also encourage it to say, "We are going to leave you a 30-year-old man." I find that we analyze a lot precisely this period there. So the shock that becomes apparent becomes a shock, but then there is return, found precisely this vital balance to have all these panels, which is another shock. And you know, we talk about work, the child is not just covered in the smell, we know that the first years in the smell are the microbes, are the seeds. Well, it's the first of the activities. So we minimise, in fact, a lot of this period there. I agree that we may not encourage women to be strong and to persevere in this process. I don't know, I find that they will quickly say, "Oh, I'm sick." But it's not because they are sick, all of a sudden it's not as stimulating, interesting, or that you, even you can't be as performant, maybe it's too much. Maybe you'll see more of the jungle with it, but you can go to look for a solution in all the signs of life, despite that change. And sometimes I find that it's easy to say, "Oh, I'm sick now." There is this will to say, because if it was able to give life, you can't take anything from it. That's what we're saying. To put a child into the world, we're able to... It should give a strong sense. But I think that a message in the society is also... And it's a capability or a feeling of saying, "I might go to the high school." And that's it. Instead of giving the power to women, that's what I've said all the time. It's the mission of my company, giving the power to women, first of all, to educate their own body, in order to do everything possible. It won't be easy, but everything is possible. 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