E495 Triple Trampoline Entendres and Juniper Hauntings

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Do you not do collections on, like, save folders of stuff on TikTok? I do all the time, but I think I was just like in the midst of the TikTok, and I like start Googling it. And then I was like, oh, I want to light some incense. I mean, the ADHD thing is very strong today. Big news on my phone front, I got a new case, and I've literally become a 50 year old woman. Show me. Show me. Show me. This is the seller. But wait a minute. It's the necklace person. I can't stop myself. What? If you don't know about these, I think every every mother in the world probably has one. But seeing them on like, I saw them for a day on my TikTok ads, and I was like, no, I'm not interested. I am. It's a little. I guess so. I mean, it looks like I'm carrying a little purse, but like, but I never put my, I have to put my phone in a pocket. I can just drop it out of my hands. It just hangs there. And then when I'm ready, I do that, but I have this. Okay. That's just the bracelet version. So the necklace version. Yes. It's kind of just like I hang it on my arm, but it's the look like a clutch. Oh, look at this angry birthday guy. I love this case so much. Beautiful. I just fell. Felt it in my bones. With love. Every. I could see Leona and personally, and that pretty good. She was so excited when I picked the case, because I did not pick it for her. And I took it home. And she was like, I like that. Maybe like, I've passed the test, you know, reminds me a grumpy cat. So it is like, but like in like a cute chic version, you know, yeah, modern. My mom would call that funky funky grumpy cat. All right. Well, now I listen. Now you're talking like a six year old woman. So please. I'm telling you, you know what? You left. But she's really useful. And also, by the way, I'm happy for you. Where did you get the case? I just like online or like at the store? No, I thought I'd find one online. I ended up trying this. I couldn't tell you the name now. It was one of those funky phone boutique little places where you got the cases. Oh, geez. Wow. So you really went eclectic, you know, but I feel like you try them on before that's why I'm asking was I actively wanted a phone. This is, I know this, like in 10 years, this will be laughable. That everyone's all about this color. I know the forest. Great. Somebody clip somebody clip this. Well, hang on for the future. So I can just hate myself. Hello. Do we need reasons? By the way, just threw it away. I just threw my phone away. I didn't have to worry about it. It looks like it hit you right in the stomach, though, when it, when it rebounded on that. No, I don't think that's a good idea. You look like Steve Irwin, but not really. I don't even know what you could mean by that. Well, it's like you look like you have either a lanyard or some sort of like leash device. No, it does. You know, I wish they made like some like a cooler strap. I could look like an adventurer or something. Hey, dude, they do. I promise you. You need to don't need this like slightly bedazzled cord. They make everything. What are you talking about? I wish they made a cooler strap for fun. You know, I love maybe not at the funky boutique you went to. But I was just saying. If I like a henna shirt, also, while you were there. No, I was saying a life is good. You know, that's what he for like men on vacation is a life is good shirt. They eat those up our Tommy Bahamas or divorce dads who buy them for you as a tourist gift. Absolutely. On business trips with their new girlfriend. That's where I got most of my. You know, this is from the Bahamas, which was cool though. Really? What did it say? Life is good. How did you know? Like, by the way, by the way, fun fact, life was a dog good. Well, and that's why we drink, right? So life was not good for anybody. Do you want to tell people why life is not good for you this week? Why do you drink? Oh, absolutely. I would love to. So I'm drinking my vitamin water, as you know, my favorite. And the pink is my favorite flavor, but it's caffeinated. So I have to be careful. What's the pink flavor? Kiwi strawberry focus. Damn. Okay. Obviously not. But yeah, so today I drink because we are about halfway through the last week of summer break and it's like sad and exciting because it's like, oh, do you think so this next year, she'll be going into kindergarten. Still preschool. She's like right at the cut off age. So she. It's like a few days within her birthday. But the other, it's like a better fit anyway. She's like with kids closer to her age, but she's still preschool. Yeah. Does she still do the thing where I'm only asking because it's, it's top news in Alison's family group chat right now, but Alison's niece is going into preschool for the first time this week. And there's a lot of tears. It has, is Leona no longer crying when you leave? She like, I'll chill or she's, well, she's a double Libra. So like, she's a social butterfly. Her whole thing is like, I just want to see my friends. Which is great, but sometimes I'm her friend and she's like, I just want to see my friend mom because we have so many things to do. And I'm like, it is like 6 am or whatever, you know, whatever the case may be or like, it's time for school. I know I'm your friend or whatever, but you have other friends that are more your size. I think I'm some of your own size. I say to her. - That's a very funny person. - Thank you so much. - What the fuck? I hope that was not a person. - Carl, I can't do this. - No. - What are you talking about? - Okay, the roofers are here and I just saw this massive thing fall from above a tree, past my window and hit the ground, but nobody's yelling or screaming. So I think it must have been just their supplies. - Yeah. - A huge, like, rucksack-sized thing or person-sized thing. - What are they chopping down? - Maybe it was a part of that. - They're not chopping anything. They're just trying to repair the roof and they've been trying to repair the roof and then that tornado came through and I had to scream at them to get off the effing ladder because this ladder was still up to the third floor and this, like, tornado winds were coming through a tree landed on a car outside my house and smashed it. Like, it was insane. - I'll tell, I'll tell, in the group chat, Christine. Literally, we had been recording that day and you said, oh, like, a storm's coming through where it's kind of rainy right now. - I was like, I love this weather. - And then, like, the next-- - And I come alone. - The very next thing I see is Christine taking a picture in the storm cellar. It's, like, pitch black and looking up into, like, the real actual house. Like, like, here's hiding in, like-- - Yeah, and, like, the-- - And then, we're sneaking over the edge. - That scary haunted fucking spot you never even want to be in. You were standing in there. - That must have been bad if you were down there. - By the way, I was home alone, so I was opening the trapdoor and I kept screaming, like, I'm an independent woman. It's strong enough, because I'm, like, the trapdoor is, like, this side, I mean, it's, like, eight feet, it's huge. It's, like, a huge, maybe not eight. - Yeah, I was pretty big. You have to, like, really, sometimes takes two people. And then, you have to prop it up with this huge, like, plank. I mean, it's insane. And so, I was, like, here, Katie, Katie. They're just standing there. And meanwhile, like, trees are literally coming down, like, three people, you hear a glass shattering. It was crazy. And our power went out for, like, until the next afternoon, like, I was, it was out for, for, like, 24 hours, which was really horrible. (laughing) - A scary, you know. It's, there's worse things in this world, I know. But, man, it's been, that was, yeah, that feels like 10 years ago now. But, so, they're back from their trip and now Leon is home and she's back with her friend, Mom, and I'm back with my friend, Leonna. We have a lot of fun. Today, the trampoline was out. And she was, like, that little, the mini-kids one. And, like, she was just jumping on the trampoline and the living room for, like, two hours. I mean, bothering me the whole time. So, it wasn't, like, a peaceful two hours. But, I was like, how do you move so much for so long? Like, I just, the energy, I mean, I don't, I'm also, like, a very, like, I need a lot of rest. I'm very, like, I don't want that. - I agree, a thousand percent. - I agree. But, she's, like, trampoline park, then the zoo, then the aquarium, then the museum, then the-- - I don't even think I want that much energy. Like, that's too much. - I don't. - That's, like, my bones hurt just thinking about it. - I don't, yeah, I want more energy than what I have, but I don't need that. - My mom's, like, that, I guess. But, like, I'm not, like, that. I'm, like, I'm, like, let me just lay here. - I fucking love just laying here. - But, I know one day she'll get there, right? She's, like, four, and I'm like, she has so much energy. She's a kid. She has, like, so much excitement about things, you know? But, like, I can't wait for when she's a little older. We can, 'cause we do have those moments where we're both just kind of, like, chilling. And I'm like, my god, it's happening. And then, like, five minutes later, it's, kind of, the magic is shattered. But, the illusion is shattered when she's like, "Where's my cheese ends?" - I feel like, yeah, eventually, one day, she'll not be asking you for cheese. It's not true. I've seen you ask your mom for cheese. I'll be asking her for cheese. - So, like, while you're up, girl, you're gonna be cooking. - I'll be asking each other for cheese ends, which is really the most beautiful type of relationship, you know? - Yeah, I don't know when it started for me, but I remember lying on the couch and just watching TV, specifically, "Lawn Order Sphere" with my mom. And I remember thinking, "This is so nice. I never really want to do anything else ever again." So, it clicks eventually. - That's so beautiful. I, like, I can't wait for that. And I know that that's my future, because we are already really annoyingly, like, in sync about things. - It's funny, you mentioned that, by the way, not that I'm not, like, trying to do anything, but my algorithm, I think, is trying to thrust it upon me, is trying to sell me a trampoline. And-- - I thought you were gonna say, "Have a kid." And I was like, "Whoa." - No, no. - Get a trampoline is hilarious, okay. - Well, they're calling them, this is clearly, like, a diet culture situation, where we're not calling it a trampoline. Every video on my phone keeps calling it a rebounder. And I'm like, "Okay, girl, it's a trampoline." - Oh, I've seen that, yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's just a little one you put in in your house, I guess. - Yeah, yeah, like a fitness one. - They are not selling it well, 'cause every time I see someone jumping on one of those things, I'm like, "Yeah, 'cause that looks exhausting." Like, I'm like, "Why would I do that?" - Yeah, that's not the fun of a trampoline. The fun is, like, bouncing on your butt and, like, playing popcorn, playing on it, and playing popcorn, like, pretending it's, like, good duck duck goose, pretending it's someone going under the trampoline, looking at constellations and bats. Like, there's so many other things that a rebounder's not gonna give you. And that's why it's called a rebounder, I think. - I think so. - It's just not as fulfilling as the original. - I'm sure it means something like rebounding on your journey or some shit like that. - No, no, no, no, it's 'cause it's bouncy, but we're not gonna talk about that. I think it's double in sort of like a rebound. I think it's a triple imponder, really. - I think so too. Well, I mean, it's funny that you mentioned like all the things that you can do on a trampoline and you've literally listed just looking at the sky. - Because something just, like, not moving on it is mostly what I want to do on it. - Like, again, I see a trampoline. My first thought is, "How can I be horizontal on this?" So like, I'm-- - Yeah, precisely. - Hopefully the algorithm moves away. - Making your hair stand up on end, like, again, there's so many things you can do that are not vertically moving, you know? - God, speaking my language. - I know, right. As you'll know, notice if you're watching this on YouTube, I am in my bedroom and I'm in my bed because these roofers that may or may not still be with us have been using my office as like the, I'm just gonna say like the escape hatch, it's like a window, they're just using the window, but they climb out like, I mean, I'm telling you, this is like, really high off the ground. So they keep climbing in and out of it. And I was like, I will not be able to focus on a single thing if I'm watching this. - They won't be able to either. They'll be walking past a live podcast. They'll be going-- (laughs) - They'll be like, we actually didn't consent to being part of this recording you're doing and I'll be like, you're right. - They're just listening to like horrible traumas and true crime and every time they walk by, you get a little louder with like, and then he broke into the house, but then he got stabbed and just let them know where they are. - I've seen that many of the guy like, people walking past me when I'm leaving my friend a voice note and it's like, yeah, but then they swat, like yeah, her head wasn't actually a tattoo. And then he goes like, oh hi, how are you? And then I was like, hi, how are you? - I love that it's a universal experience at this point. - I think it must be. - Well, so wait, why do you drink? Do we answer that? - Oh yeah, it's the last week of summer break. So it's like, we're literally like pulling out all the stops as in like jump on the trampoline inside for, like we're just trying to get all the energy out. So she's currently a, some other activity, but it's crank or two. So I'm here in bed doing what I like to do. So you know, it's kind of like give and take with this last week of summer break. I do have a countdown on my phone I have to admit. - Good for you. - I would. - Hill the first day of school because it does make life a bit easier when it comes to working and scheduling. But otherwise, we're having a lot of fun and I just love her being four. It's so much fun. Like I just, it's like crafting and like, she just dances and was like makes, puts on shows and it's just fun, you know? - Well, you say like her being four, but guess what happens very soon. - What's that? - She turns five. - Oh. - I know, crazy. - A friend last night was like, it was talking, we were like, her birthday dinner and she said do or other friend like, oh, Christine has an almost five year old and I went, don't say that. (laughing) Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down. (laughing) - Yeah, five is crazy. - But my friend is, baby is turning one on Lyona's birthday. They have the same birthday. - Fun. - And so she was like, well, she's almost one and I was like, yeah, but like give me a few more minutes with four, you know? Almost five is, oh. - Almost five is, there's something about five that feels like such a milestone. - Kind of garden, doesn't it? - Yeah. - It's like you're totally out of your baby ears. - But Lyona has a calendar now. It's Hello Kitty themed for some reason. I don't, she loves it. It's just pink of purple and glittery. And she has, she's so excited for October because the first day is her birthday. The last day is Halloween. And she's like, and everything else is in between. And I was like, you get it, you fucking get it. And I love this. - You did seemingly plan to have a baby right at the beginning of spooky season. - I manifested. Also her due date was October 1st. So I manifested that manifested. - You were so punctual. - What can I say? Well, this is the first time I'm punctual to much of anything, but she's pretty punctual, I guess. You can say. - Good for her. - Good for her. - Well. - Why do you drink? - Oh, why do I drink? - Or did you give, I'm like trying to remember in the maze of, I know we're lost already, but I don't remember where we were before this. - I don't remember what either. - She's probably where we were lost. - I drink, I drink a little, a little black tea with some sugar. - Nice. - Yummy, yummy sugar. - Is it a hot or ice? - It's ice. I had to get it from the bean today. So. - Oh, and I, oh, that, good ice. - Good, good pebble ice, yeah, yeah. - Mm-hmm. - And I really had this at coffee bean. I really highlight the sugar in this because census and ice T and it stayed, it began, it's never had a time for the sugar to melt when it was hot and the me come iced tea. So it's a lot of granules at the bottom and now I'm have to play the game where I like kind of go bobbing for apples with the straw. You know what I'm saying? I loathe that game, but then when I'm actually drinking it, I'm like, "Ooh, it comes with sugar." Is he? Yeah. Like a horse. You know? Like, I'm like, I hate this because I know I'll become kind of a horse in a moment. Yeah. Maybe why I hate it because I'm like, "I'm about to have a good time." And I kind of wish I could control myself, but then I'm like, "Now I'm just drinking clumps of sugar." You know? I understand. No, but I do. I also get the horse experience where I'm like, "This isn't that bad now that I'm doing it." Like, I get it. Until I run out of sugar and then I'm like, "Well, what is this drink you've been for?" Yeah, and then you're like, "What you? Why?" I know. Just put a big sugar in my cup. Why I drink, I'm trying to think, I'm trying to think. Well, there's a good reason I drink. Allison's parents are in town and they are, I'm not allowed to know anything, so I can't give any details even if I wanted to. But as you all recall, we have a spookyzy in our house, or it's always been tentatively called the spookyzy. Yes, of course. And we've made really no contributions to the decoration of the spookyzy except for our secret passageway bookcase. Which, like, already speaks for its. I mean, what do you call that? The centerpiece? What's the main attraction in a room, like the peace day resistance? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I know about the bookcase, I'm the one that put that in, so far I know all of the way. Oh, they're doing it. Yeah, so I know the entrance of the room because of the bookcase, but I don't know anything past that. I've always had the door closed and Allison had all these ideas and I was like, "I don't want to know a thing. I just want to be surprised when you figure out everything you want to do." And I guess her plans were very elaborate and so mom and dad, the architects, have stopped by across the country and are. they're at home people right now and they're buying all sorts of wood. I don't know what's going to happen there. This is exciting! Is someone filming a TikTok that I can watch and that we can all watch or no? I wish. I love a home reno. When every time Allison does something really creative in her personal free time, I'm like, "You've got to be filming all this stuff, but she doesn't do it. I don't know what's. " She does their TikTok, though. They're awesome. She does it for her woodworking business. Oh, but just for other stuff. For other stuff. Yeah, like she's decorating the whole room. I hope she's filming it, but I don't know. Well, and also she's so good at like the editing too. I'm always like, "How do you like hop on these trends and stuff?" I don't know. She's a good one, yeah. But I know there's a fireplace in there because I got the fireplace. It was actually originally for out here, but then we realized nothing makes it spookier than if you've got a nice little cobblestone fireplace. Certainly not. That's involved. And everywhere I look, there's just scraps of paper with like measurements and dimensions and like. Whoa! Do you feel so excited? I don't know what it's going to say. Yeah. They're like pro-pros people. Like they're like, "That's their whole bag," right? Yeah. And what's, yeah. Sidebar too. We're officially going to be starting our addition to the house soon. Exciting. Which they also designed. That was their. Yeah. I mean, I know that it seemed like a while, but that feels like it's going pretty good. Like going quick. You've got a lot of work going on with the house. We've been hesitant about whether or not we should start the project. Right. And so now we're deciding that we're just going to commit and get it going. Exciting. Anyway, a lot of house stuff going on over here. But that's why I. That's why I think it's. You want to look at your astrology chart. I'm going to look at. Can I look at your astrology chart during the api hour to see? Sure. Make what this solar eclipse right now is hitting for you to see if it's a house stuff. Sure. Isn't it. It's Virgo season right now, right? And I'm. I'm part Virgo. Does that mean anything? Um. Um. Isn't it Leo season, my friend? Still? Yeah. I don't know. It definitely still Leo season. Virgo and Leo will never know when it starts and ends. And I always football. Oh. Hello. Leo's in August. Think about it. The sun. They're just fucking. When's Virgo? Oh, September. 9/11. I'm sorry, friend. I'll never forget it again. Do you know why? Three people in my close life are Virgos and all the birthdays are on 9/11. So I'm like, well, sorry. That's how I'm going to remember it for now. Yeah, but I have an August Virgo in my life. So I always. That's where I get. Totally. I don't understand that. That parts to me, you're still kind of a Leo. So I don't get it. That's like Mae Gemini's. I'm like, what are we doing? Get in June. Get over here. Please. I've never met you before. Um. Because they avoid us on the street. But anyway. But yes, that'd be a great, uh. Yeah, be hours to look up what's going on. Let's look at your birth chart. I'm curious to see. So, yeah, we're not in Virgo season. Let's be very clear about that. We're in Leo season still, because Leo's are going to care about that, okay? Actively. Um. And Virgos are going to love that I said that they're just 9/11. But. Never forget. I'm learning more. I'm learning more. I will never forget. Yeah. Help. Uh. Okay. Want to tell me a story? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I actually don't want to tell you a story. I just want to tell you some bullet points I got from an article I read, and I thought, "Oh, I'm just going to cover this issue." That's actually a step. Okay. That's usually what. What's happening, anyway. So. Yeah, but usually I use many, many articles and all this stuff to create a story. Oh, I see the story. This is no story. No story. Oh, okay. Got you. Got you. I stumbled upon, in my free time, a listicle, and I went, "Well, I'm just going to read this listicle for. I love it." So, this is very easy. It's not a quickie, because after the one list school, I was like, "Well, let me see how many of these I can find." It sort of feels like. Early in, that's why we drink vibes sometimes, like. Love that. Where we were like, "What's interesting?" You know? I'm very glad you said that, because I was worried that this was a silly thing to do. But. Today, my therapist said, "Oh, Jonestown," and I said, "Oh, that was my first ever podcast episode was on Jonestown," and then she was like, "Oh, my God, I did a grad school project on Jonestown." And while I was like, "We're both really excited right now about Jonestown movie, maybe we need to change the tone." I saw a conversation. I saw always think, "What was it?" It was never drinking the coolest. It was flavoring. I said it was flavoring, and she said, "And it was grape," and I was like, "Girl, no one are on the therapist. You get me." You're on the same page. Listen, it takes two very abnormal people to understand one another. I think. I've had that with. Yeah, a couple people. And the Jonestown thing is a good threshold test for that. So. A podcast on episode 1M, which lifts us. So I tried to never think about my liver before for a variety of reasons we can all guess. But recently, I've learned how much it does for us. It filters unwanted elements, supports digestion, helps with energy, and we usually don't think about it until something's wrong. But when dose became a sponsor, I was like, "Well, I need to look into this because I take this kind of stuff seriously." So I've been taking it for a while now, and I feel better. So I'm like, "Hell yeah, it works." It's clinically-backed liver health. 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I'm just going to call it, "This is a smattering of haunted fast food restaurants." Very silly. This is cool. We have quite a few to get through, but they're all very short. I think each of them are like a sentence or two because I'm sad as the kids say. Thank you. Well, as my mom says, this is going to get funky, so. What happened today? I feel like I'm the. Yeah. I don't know what's going on. I'm the one referencing TikToks and like. I know. I don't know what. Oh, I got this. You have a phone-lander in all my life. No, it's really because I told. My mom has a favorite type of restaurant she goes to. Well, Allison's family is in town. We're going to a lot of restaurants. And I've been saying, like, "Oh, I take my mom here when she's in town," and because she loves to call things funky. If she really loves it and wants to go, it's a funky restaurant. Oh, because it's like. It's like hip and cool. Yeah. Well, that's sort of. Like, boutique and modern as playing, like, some sort of, like, weird, like, like. DJ or pop music. Sort of DJ or pop music. Yeah. Yes. And there's, like, a marquee light. Oh, my God. Chilises are mind. Oh, marquee light. And so we went to home in Los Helios, which, literally, it says there's no place like home and home is written in marquee lights. Oh, I remember, yeah, back in 10 years ago, that was, like, the spot for a photo, a little photo app. And in the restaurant, there's a tree in the middle of the restaurant. It's super funky. It's very funky. And so, anyway, it became this thing while the whole time Allison's families here every time we got, like, we're gauging if the restaurant's funky, like, Linda approved. It's so happy at home. Is home still there? Yeah. We went yesterday. Oh, you. Okay. I didn't know how recent though. I fucking love that place. That was a great place. It was walking distance from your old place. Your old place. Yes, it was. We used to go there all the time. Yeah. It was very good. It was still very yummy. Oh. on. I feel like I'll go to my store. I was on the same street. I don't know. I probably because I haven't seen it in a while, but now home has a side restaurant or like they expanded and it's a bar. It's called guest house. Oh, cute. Oh, my guest house. I love that. Yeah. It's funky. It's so funky. And then Alison's Bob was trying to like get in on the funky joke, but like I don't think she knew yet. That immensely yeah. She was like this food tastes funky. And I went, okay, well, it smells funky in here. Yeah. Anyway, so here we go. This, these are some fast food restaurants. And again, because they're not like 100-year-old castles, there's not a lot of history to these. I'm really just giving you kind of bullet points like this listicle that's what I want. Okay. That's what I want. Do you have a favorite fast food restaurant? Well, we're here. I'm going to have to make small talk with you because this is going to go quick. Uh, sure do. Let me think. I, well, it's hard because I don't really. What do we usually order? I love culverse. Sure. I love a cheese curd, but then what did we order when we were? Oh, Sonic. I love Sonic. Oh, I do love Sonic. We did a lot of Sonic in our day. I think Sonic is like maybe my fave. I love Taco Bell too, but I know there's the current Taylor Farms nonsense happening or whatever, but yeah, yeah. I, uh, I love Taco Bell too. I mean, I'm surprised you didn't mention old reliable every morning, fucking McDonald's breakfast on the road. I think I'm traumatized about that, maybe. We probably had McDonald's breakfast 300 times together on our fucking tours. Literally, like, I can't imagine that would ever be my favorite right now in this time of my life. Maybe when I'm 80 and I forgot about it, I'm like, mm, that sounds good. There were days, but there were times when we were on the road and and I'd be like car sick and Eva be car sick and hungover and I'd be hung. Literally, like, in the drive three, we haven't even ordered yet and we're groaning about how we don't want to fucking eat this. And we don't want to eat it. We don't want to go to where we're going. We don't want to be alive. But there's nothing else open and we got to get to the airport. Basically three siblings in the car. Eva's the middle child trying to make everybody happy, who were just like the only exciting time was the Canadian McPoolay incident. Oh, yes. We were at the border and Eva picked up a chicken nugget. She said, she just said, I just kept saying every, is this a chicken nugget? And we were all, that's right. We kept saying McPoolay. And so she finally picked up a chicken nugget to get in on the joke and she was driving us through a Canadian border. She turns around and she goes, is this a chicken nugget? And we all kind of like pause. And we were like, yes. She was trying to say, is this a McPoolay? But she just said, is this a chicken nugget? And we were like, are you okay? What happened here? Yeah. There was not, there needed to be more crossover understanding, I think, because I really, I was so jazzed to try McDonald's at another location. And they had McPoolay's, McChicken's, but it was in French. So every time there was chicken, we would say McPoolay, she was not grasping it right away. She got there. She just said it wrong. Is this a chicken nugget? We were all like, yeah, that's literally chicken. And she's like, that's not what I was even trying to say. Yeah, it was very silly. But so I do, I like a McDonald's every now. I love a snack wrap, but like, I'm really trying not to eat meat anymore. It kind of makes my tummy out of stock into it. Really try not to eat meat anymore. So like, chicken just is not it anymore for me. So I kind of moved away from McDonald's. There's not much there that's like, like at least I talk about on stuff, you can get like potatoes, beans, cheese, you know, block stuff that's like not meat. Yeah, I talk about you got a B&C, a bacon cheese burrito. Sorry, a bean cheese burrito. Yes, exactly. Like, bean and rice, cheese, yeah, good stuff. Or a bunch of wrap with like potatoes. My old boss Renee was obsessed with B&C's. Every chance she could get to have a B&C in her purse, I think. Okay. Let me see. That does sound relatable. Yeah. She was a, she was a who it would have come talk about. Okay, McDonald's. There's four different locations we're going to talk about. I lied. There's three. One, I think, is going to be next week's story because it felt like there was a little more pun intended meat to this. So, hey. So the three that I'm going to talk about, there's one in Quero, Texas. And it used to be a gas station. When it was a gas station, two deaths happened here. There was a little boy. I'm so sorry, everybody. That was, I'm so sorry, everybody accidentally ran over by his mom. Oh, my God. It was in the 60s. And I think he just got in, he was either in front of the car behind the car and she didn't know. Just lost sight of him for a second. The second death was when it was a gas station, I guess they also had the mechanical cart lifts. So they could lift the car up and maybe do some under under the car stuff and a mechanic who worked there. Oh, no, accidentally got crushed by one of the lifts. And this is weird, but I guess in that same 24 hour period, the cops were actually looking for him to arrest him because allegedly, he killed his own six year old daughter. What is going on? A lot of children stuff already. Yeah, I don't love that. So at this one location before was McDonald's, two little kids were somehow tragically killed or involved in somehow died and yeah, tragic circumstance seems like. So now this McDonald's is apparently very haunted. One of the main things that happens is the toilets flush themselves, which I guess if you're a kid's stock on the sucking property, you're going to keep just flush and toilets are doing something silly. See what goes down. See what floats. And also the walk in fridges turn themselves off from the inside. Oh, I don't like that. I don't like that at all. And you have to go in and look. Oh, no, no, I really don't like when the fridge turns off and then all of a sudden I can't have my food because now it's all. It's going to say that it's simply all bad. Yeah, that's not good either. That has to be such a logistical nightmare for the manager. Agreed. Then also just general weird sounds is what happens there. And that's the end of that McDonald's. That's how quick this is going to go. I love this. So, but I thought I've never covered this. So I ought to do it. So this McDonald's is in. I, I double Oklahoma. Okay. Okay. And you double. I know. There's a little girl who is seen going into the men's bathroom before opening hours. I guess multiple times. Uh, it's always around five a.m. And a little girl has always seen going in there. And not coming out, which is seary. Yeah, it's strange. She's also blamed for the toilets flushing them aselves all at once. Very weird. That's happening at two McDonald's. Also all at once is weird. Yes, she didn't have enough hands for that. How do you do that? I don't like that. That feels also very moaning, mortal. Yeah. Well, I guess we just gave her an nickname. But that's also, that's just in the women's bathroom. So she seemed going into the men's bathroom, but in the women's bathroom, all the toilets flushed themselves. Well, I mean, but like you said, maybe there's just multiple people doing this prank or whatever, because if there's how many corporeal, I mean, I don't know. I guess it as a ghost, you can maybe just not you can just get touch four things at once. I don't know. And you know what's crazy is the fact that we still think, well, they must be physically touching the handles like they might be numb. I'm like, that's probably not even how that works mentally. Just go, okay, everyone flush and they just happen. It's not mentally just or a psychicly. Yeah, or a sometimes I feel like that happens when I'm at a public bathroom and it flushes for no fucking reason when I'm still sitting on it. And I'm like, and then you feel the weird wet breeze hit your butt. Oh, get out of here. God, and you're like, now I've never been dirty or my life. I'm just saying they're going I am in this moment. I'm just saying they're like, make it stop. Make it stop. And I don't know if you recall where Eva would recall, but when I was on the road, I really have a problem with public restrooms, but sometimes you got to go. And so everywhere we went, I carried a little white salt spray and like wet wipes and stuff. And I was like, this is what's going to be as clean as a possibly camp before I'm sitting then if I have to sit on it. Wow. And then all of a sudden that weird like backwash toilet spray would hit me in the button. I'm like, this is hell. This is like the exact opposite of everything I just prepped. Anyway, you just have to lie. Saw your butt now. Sorry. I have. I have to. It happens. It happens. Also, the restaurant will sometimes feel very cold. I don't know where the employees say that the computer will turn itself on after they've turned it off for the night. And in the women's bathroom, they hear a lot of laughter when the store is closing. So there's just playing Neopets in there on that computer. Just giggling. Yeah. Another McDonald's in Vancouver, this one really gets me going. I like this one. This is probably where we got that fucking McPoolay. I'm saying it like that on purpose. I'm sorry. The McPoolay. McPoolay. The McPoolay where Eva said, is this a chicken nugget? That may have been because we were in Vancouver. So it could be. Well, you're going to see in a second why that why it. What if we went to this McDonald's, it's on it. That's cool. You're saying a lot. We probably didn't. Hang on. Hang on a second. Okay. How many are there in Vancouver? Only one, right? Well, yeah. So this McDonald's was only open for a year in 1986. Okay. So like it could have been been and it was they opened it for Vancouver's expo expo 86, which I think is funny because 86 is like a dining slang right like 86 the food. I think I thought you did oh is that a dining thing? I thought it was just you 86 something means you get rid of it. I didn't know it was dining dining related. Oh yeah it's it's in diners that you would like 86 a meal that's where it came from. Oh okay. Been big on dinerlingo in the middle of this. So do you know what uh uh well what's yeah what oh we'll do it's already yappy hour. Do you know the line from Emper's new groove where he does like the I do know what you're talking about to to yeah I just watched that movie again recently I watch it in times of high stress and I've watched it a lot recently and I'm like trying to memorize that little like two slinger whatever whatever yeah anyway. I forget what the phrase for eggs is I think but I think it's Jack and Jill on a raft and Reckham which means uh scrambled eggs on toast. Like I love this. This is like peak content. Thank you. I look I'm not kidding. I really do have a list that like when I'm bored I just memorize like a new one when I promise you I believe you. So maybe for yappy hour we'll do a birth chart thing and I'll read some of my dinerling goes and we'll make you guess what they are. Oh fun. That's fun. That's fun. That's fun. So the uh this oh I'm so stupid. Expo 86. It's because it was 1986. I'm literally such a stupid person. Well I knew that. I didn't understand why you worse but I'm so perplexed. Oh okay. I really just wanted to make leaps and bounds I guess. So for this Expo McDonald's spent nine million dollars on essentially a bail ship and try to turn it into a floating McDonald's. Oh that's what we're doing and it got the nickname the Mick Barge which is Cysterical. Yeah. Not a good name but no you know what it is when you hear it and within that same year it closed. The whole point was for it to be like this big floating restaurant in the ocean and which I have seen that work as in lakes and rivers sometimes people have a floating hot dog cart. That's a ten out of a ten. That was just seeing the Hooters and Newport which has the boating the boat dock that just closed. Oh I don't know about that. I would just use a we'd use the Hooters dock to get on the boat. Fun. I have thought about just like leaving this life behind and opening a hot dog cart on the river. It feels like he probably makes millions especially for the July weekend for get it. Yeah I think that would be like where we'd find you. You know if like everything went topsy-turvy and like in the in the zombie apocalypse version of this story we would eventually find you like selling hot dogs. I think so and I'm not offended by that at all. That feels like that feels right. Yeah and you'd be a multi-millionaire probably. Imagine you have a little tugboat on the lake and you just sell ice cream. You came to me? How do you not make money from that? Yeah you'd be and then you just hire someone to sell it for you so you can just buy a nice cream for me around my business and just watch the watch the world go by. ZipperClitter.com. American Dream. Okay so it only lasted a year. It eventually capsized last year which that's the slowest sinking of a mick barge I've ever heard of. What do you mean? Like it was just slowly sinking or it just finally literally closed in 1986 and just sat there and then capsized in sank. But I guess before it capsized there was like a good 20 years where you could just somehow get on it and go look around and explore. I mean it was abandoned and so it wasn't actually haunted but it looked like it should be haunted. I I want to go on that yeah. Well now you cannot. She's gone but she's scuba diving. The fourth location is what I'm going to talk about next week so I'm not going to say anything about that yet but now we're on to Pizza Hut. Oh thank God. Pizza Hut there's one in New York in Center Reach New York. Apparently they've actually had investigators go into this Pizza Hut which must have been the most fun investigation in the entire world. Seriously. The team did get footage of a spirit in the women's bathroom and but other than that well one of the reasons they went into the bathrooms was because before this was a Pizza Hut it was a jack-in-the-box and a man died in there in the bathroom and it was a jack-in-the-box so that's why they were looking in the bathrooms. People here whispering in the stalls horrifying. People here pots and pans throw themselves off the shelves they feel cold spots and this was a funny quote I got from I think Huffington Post. It said Google Maps says that the location is closed but Huff Post successfully got a Pizza Hut employee on the phone when calling their delivery line. That said Huff Post may have been talking to a Huff Ghost. Oh! I was like well that's clever. Now that's worth reading. Okay so and I did so this is another Pizza Hut this is in Glendale Arizona and people here crying babies they hear children's voices the faucets go on and off by themselves a little girl has seen playing under the tables. It seems like it's a portal rather than like an incident happened or did an incident happen. I do think it's interesting that most things are happening in the bathroom where there's several mirrors. Oh mirrors I didn't even think of that I was like toilets could be portals I guess and he sort of sewer lines or I don't know but but yeah that makes sense to the mirrors oh and then people in there doing like who knows what you know at public in public bathrooms like spraying their own butts with lice all and sickos like that. It could be anything. I shiver at that thought. I shiver when the lice all hits my tushy. Yeah yeah same ditto. Oh my god items fly off the shelves and this has been witnessed by multiple employees this isn't just one person talking about it this is across the board former employees have said that place is fucking haunted and one of them actually thought that the building used to be a mortuary before it was a pizza hut which is crazy. Yeah I mean that would make sense too if if it wasn't a portal it's either a portal or a mortuary and that's it. Yeah okay so that's it for pizza hut now we're on to Burger King but there's only one Burger King that I'm talking about and it's in a West Palm Beach. There was a janitor who twice saw the apparition of a man who it was such a full-bodied operation he didn't even think it he thought it was a living person. Yeah and he saw a man after closing trying to steal money from Burger King and he'll like robbing the place. I guess so yeah it's it's stealing stealing money it could have just been his money like trying to pick pocket him or something I'm not too sure but well robbing someone robbing someone so they he saw this young man trying to steal money in the restaurant and then tried to chase him out of the building but before he could get him out of the building the man would vanish and this happened twice to the same gender. Oh my god and he's like this time yeah as like you again come on the second time you're a personal it doesn't what's gonna happen the third time he's not gonna chase him right. Well after the second time he quit so I guess there was no third time. He quit. He's like fuck this I'm getting robbed by a ghost. I mean I don't blame him you're right I 100% don't blame him. I kind of I would stick around a third time be like well he's gonna come back and I'm not gonna chase him I just want to see what he does. I would maybe quit and then just come back for lunch and see if I showed up again you know like I'd be like I'll just come back to like observe. Good point. All right at least put like suggest a security camera gets put up you know. In 1999 the director of operations was asked if this place was haunted and said if I had to guess I would say that the kitchen is inhabited by a spirit that cannot pass to the other side until everyone in Palm Beach County stops by the store to buy a whopper value meal. Okay yuck promotion. I mean okay guy. You could have just said no I don't think it's haunted or yes come see our ghost. He had to use the opportunity and we know that. Speaking of promotions this is not this Burger King I think it was across all all Burger Kings in 2022 for Halloween they came up with such a good promotion. I'm very I think it was so good. They have like a Burger King app and in the app to promote their Ghost Pepper Whopper they put an EMF detector in their app for you to go ghost hunting while you eat their Ghost Pepper Whopper. I thought that was clever little idea. That was I was like now that's genius. No we're talking. I never thought I'd download a fast food app. Yeah but I I think I'm going to have the Chipotle app and the McDonald's app. Who am I kidding? Oh I've always wanted one of those Chipotle black cards. You know about those? I don't even know No. They have like a VIP thing. Kind of well so it's a I don't know I've heard about different cards like a Chipotle black card Chipotle celebrity card there's a Chipotle lifetime card they might all be the same card with different names. I don't want that you want that. I loved Chipotle. I know so do I but it sounds depressing. Well apparently they only only like a hundred have been given out ever and those people you get like literally a lifetime of free burritos. Why would those people are already probably billionaires so it's like who cares? That hurts my feelings like they I wonder I want a free burrito let's let's let's oh yeah people who a lot of people want a free burrito you know I think actually I'd argue everyone wants a free burrito. I don't know I I would like the opportunity to have a free burrito every single day. I wouldn't use it like that but I'd like to say okay um but then apparently there was one guy who used it like crazy when he got when he found out he had I had freech poly for life. He was like, "Everyone come to Chipotle blah blah blah." And he bought all these, all like so much Chipotle, but he didn't realize that the stipulation was like, it's the price on that card is like the equivalent of a burrito a day. And he accidentally maxed out his lifetime card in like a year. And I'm like, "Whoopsies." - People like, come on. Like how much, you can't, you're really leaning. Like you're leaning into it so far that you're gonna type cast yourself as like that Chipotle guy, you know? - True. - He already has. But I still, you know, I just want a lifetime card to something damn. - You just want a lifetime card. - I know, you want a lifetime. I won time won a lifetime supply of Jimmy Neuchon Bubblegum, which was pretty cool. But then they sent it all at once. - You're saying this 10 years in. Are you fucking kidding me? - I've absolutely talked about this on the podcast. - Tell me again. - I'll tell you again. The year was 2001. - Uh huh. - I had discovered the magic of online sweepstakes. I won them all the time. Actually, I'm just realizing this today because I was just talking to my childhood friend about how much shit we manifested because we didn't, we would call it hexing. And we didn't under, like we were just like it works. Like we would like hex people to have crushes back on. But it always, like it would often misfire. But we were like, we would manifest like snow days, weather, like we would manifest it constantly. And we would do like little spells and rituals. And now I'm like, oh, we were just actively doing witchcraft all the time, which makes sense. But so Selene and I were like doing all these things and I just started winning all these sweepstakes 'cause I was like, I would like to, I want to win them. And I would just start winning them. And I won a signed jump five CD. I won a pogostic lifetime supply of Jimmy Neutron Bubblegum. That one was the most random. And then I wouldn't share it with anyone. No, they sent it all at once and I didn't share a single piece. And then like we had to throw it all away 'cause it was like, what was I gonna do? Eat a year or a lifetime. No, it was a year supply. Sorry, that's crazy. It was a year supply, not a lifetime supply. But still, they sent it all at once. So I got 12 months worth of Jimmy Neutron Bubblegum like in boxes shipped to my house. I have to look up what it looks like. What was like, the brand was like bubblegum. It was like Nickelodeon, I think. Nickelodeon and it was in a Nickelodeon magazine. Jimmy Neutron Bubblegum. I'm quite confident. Oh my God, I, there's only a picture of him floating in gum. Oh my God. No. And it was like, and it was that terrible fruit. I remember it's, 'cause I start using a lot of it. It's fruit stripes. No, it wasn't fruit stripes. Or I don't think so. It was like, it was a bubblegum. So how? I'm so, this might have been. They'll find a picture. Favorite fact about you. I guess I just never thought about it because I was like, I guess I was the only one entering these things. I don't know. But like I would win them. Hot. Oh, and then I won a telescope lens. But that was also the day that I accidentally, oh, I won a TV. But then one day when I was doing it, when I won the telescope lens, it was out of science. No, no, like a astronomy convention. And I, there was this bright light and I was being like annoying. And it was a projector light. And I walked in front of it. And I was trying to like make my friend laugh. And so I was like, oh, oh. And I like stumbled backwards. And suddenly this old man starts screaming. And I'm like, what about, have I killed him? No. I bumped his display of his microscopic moon rock. Oh my God. And it fell. Oh my God. Microscopic. And it was under a microscope. Like people were like lining up to look into it. I knocked it off the thing. I would never go. I would, I would everyone started gathering around. He was freaking out, freaking out. And my friend's dad was like, well, if we get a magnet and the guy's like, they're all magnetic. 'Cause he had fallen on these other rocks. And we were like, her dad was like, we're gonna go. And so that was the day I never got my telescope lens, 'cause we had to leave early, 'cause of the microscopic moon rock. As an adult, I would also be so mad. As, at a, like, I get it. I felt terrible. I still feel terrible. I literally, he was like, my life's work. Like he was losing it. And I was like, I gotta go. Oh, no. Oh my God. Yeah, so I've won a lot of random things, but again, they misfire a lot, so. But okay, as someone who has worked in Nickelodeon Studios in Burbank, California. Yeah, which I manifested also. Yeah, insane. The ultimate sweepstakes that you could have won for me. I know. And then I was like, okay, I'm leaving. There has to be the person. There has to be a person that was in charge of sweepstakes and kept picking your fucking name and going like, this Goddamn kid again. They were all different sources. I had one where I would go, kidssweepstakes.com, which literally is how I probably would have gotten kidnapped. And then I would type in like kids sweepstakes and just like scroll and find like 17 magazine is doing a sweepstakes, you know, and I'd like enter that. The Lipsmackers always had really good sweepstakes. I think they just wanted all of our information, right? At a, right at a young age of 10, I was already giving everyone, selling my data. Wow. It's a big brother, you know, and I, and here I am. I don't even know how we got here. I'm so impressed that you never mentioned that Jimmy Neutron thing to me or I would have, I really can't believe it. Yeah, is this new to everybody? I'm shocked if it's new to everybody, but maybe, maybe it just got old in my life. Maybe it's like Sandy or something. Could be. Yeah, let me know, I don't know. I'll think of any other, I did win that TV. It was crazy, that was crazy. Wow. OK, that was at like a, like a, like a, and it doesn't matter, a raffle. Well, the time has come for us to remind you again that Zipper Cruder has saved our butts since day one. It's, we have a lot to thank Zipper Cruder for. Eva has done everything, the extra step for us in every regard. 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Beapers will go off for no reason. And the sandwiches that are still sitting on the counter cut themselves. Okay, yuck, a ghost is such my sandwich. But also, I would like to see that. But did they touch it or did they use a knife? And if they used a knife, now it goes to the knife. And if a ghost doesn't have a knife, then what did they do? Like, they're psychicly powers again. They're aura powers, you know? I don't know. You're really on top of that. Quantum powers. It's like sandwich, slice sandwich, you know? I don't know. I have the exact same thought of like, why are we holding serrated knives? As guns. It's the knife, right? Where's the knife? Or are we manifesting the serials? In the cereal knife? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know about all of this, frankly. But I do get it. Like, if you were one day or working in your Harley Davidson shops, you don't necessarily know you've died or whatever happens in these scenarios. And then suddenly you're like, what the hell is going on? It smells like a subway and a sandwich shop in here. This is my Harley Davidson story. Like, that would be so demoralizing. And it'd be pissed that I'm still working. It's not even my company or my business anymore. And I'm still somehow employed. I'm still stuck here. Yeah. And like, no wonder it smells bad. I mean, you're in a subway. I don't know that, like, maybe they just say she smells bad to like cover up for the rest of the subway smells no offense. But like, the deli meat sitting out all day. She's just a lot of meats and cheeses and stuff. There's also a subway in Ireland that certainly deserves more time than what I'm about to give it. But the article was really one-cent's long. And I was like, this cannot possibly be the whole story. But the store manager swears, this is a quote, the building is from the 1600s. And we the staff believe that there's a ghost on the third floor. Apparently, it's so haunted that the staff has literally put a sign up in the window that says, "Weija boards and sances are not allowed to be performed in this shop. Haunt your own house." Haunt your own house. This is our house. This subway is our house. I just love it. It must be bad for you to even say that. And we just gloss right over it. I feel like, well, okay, I was gonna say, well, they're not the ones haunting it. But I guess you are. 'Cause if you're bringing a Ouija board in there, like you're riling it up. Like you're creating more of a haunting than there was before you brought a Ouija board in. So, 100%. Yeah. Okay, so now we've got our bees. This is in Colorado Springs, Colorado. In the 1990s, apparently the manager, they're fired someone and in retaliation, she shot him. - Oh my God. - Whoopsies, that's not good. - Oh, shit. - Apparently, now late at night, you can still hear the arguing in the parking lot. - Geez. - Also, there are whispers in the lobby when the place is empty and they're closing up. Items, of course, movie on their own. A woman is seen walking through the kitchen and out the back door, end quote. So I assume that's like right before the shooting happened. People who are opening the store have heard their names called and they also will find chairs strewn about that you would think like, oh, the people who closed us and I should have put the chairs up, why are there chairs everywhere? And the closers will say, we put the chairs up. So they moved themselves in the middle of the night. - I hate that, or did they just reappear? That's why I'm so freaked out by that. Like, does the camera cut out when that happens or does it show the moving or do they just appear? Oh my God. - In Hawaii, there's a Starbucks that apparently when they play music and night while they're closing, every single night at exactly 10.51 p.m., the music will cut itself off. - 10.51 p.m. - Every single night. - It doesn't matter if they try a different song or anything, the music just always stops at that time. - Damn. - If you said it's almost 11, get the fuck out. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like let's just cut to the chase please. - Wrap it up, wrap it up. There's also a ghost that one employee swore that they'd seen for like a year, like every time they're on their shift, there was this random other person that was always wearing khakis, they were very tall and they did not know who this person was. They were like-- - They just thought it was like some awkward coworker they never spoke to. It was just some awkward coworker. But I guess they knew that like nobody else was seeing this fucking person. So they were like, I swear I'm seeing this ghost walk by every now and then I swear like-- - Like they're probably saying like, who's the guy in the khakis and everyone's like, we don't know and you're like the guy in the khakis. - Exactly. - Oh, that's horrible. It's like so gaslighting. - Eventually another employee started seeing the same apparition. - Oh, it's always a matter of time. - And when the two of those employees got together and finally started talking about it and saying, I've seen him too, the computer system went fucking crazy. Like everything started glitching in the restaurant. - As I'm like, don't fucking talk to me. - Or like you've seen me. - You know too much. Yeah. - I've seen you. - So there is a Domino's pizza in Boyton Beach, Florida where I guess if you're a brunette, the ghost does not care for you and will throw shit at you. But if you're a blonde, it'll stroke your hair. - Awesome. - If you're a redhead, I don't fucking know. And if you're bald, just get out of there. Just stay away, go to Burger King instead. - There's a Papa Johns and see more Indiana where apparently people see the ghost of a man wearing a blue uniform. And you also hear knocking on the walls as if it's coming from the business next door, but that business is vacant. - Yuck. - Ewit, empty building, yuck. - There's a dairy queen in St. Anthony, Minnesota where you hear children laughing again. Things are falling off to the shelves again. Your name gets called out again. And the POS system, this is the creepiest one of the Stereo Queen. The POS system will print out orders that nobody's put in. (laughs) - Now that's annoying. That would really suck. - I feel like as it goes, I'd be like, I don't know how to make this clearer to you, but I need you to make me a fucking ice cream right now. I'm stuck in dairy queen. Please make me this exact Sunday. And no one's paying attention. They're just throwing it in the trash. - Annoyance. - Yes, it's like how hard is it to get? Trying to think of what, what are, where are we? - Dairy queen, they do the blizzards. - The blizzard, yeah. - Oh, I love a blizzard. - God, I fucking love a blizzard. - It's so good. - You know what they have there? They make a mean hot fudge. You put that hot fudge on anything that they sell, you're gonna have good night. - It is so good, that hot fudge. - Like a ganache. Oh, god dang it. - Dairy queen, are you listening? I knew my mom and I were cut from the same cloth when every Friday she would let me go to dairy queen. And we would make the same sounds while we ate dairy queen. We'd just go, oh, just like mimicking each other, yeah. Oh, many me. Okay, so now we've got two more places. We've got the combination KFC Taco Bell Pizza Hut, of course. - Of course, that's on it. - And Coronado, California. I guess there was like something broken in their restaurant so they had a team come out and do repairs, but while they were there, someone said, I thought we were the only ones left in the restaurant who just went into the fridge. Someone just went into the fridge. - What is with the, oh, 'cause of people working there, former employees and stuff. - And so the other employees were like, there's nobody here, nobody went into that fridge. And the guy was like, I swear, I saw someone. So they go and look in the walk in fridge and nobody's there, but it's been totally ransacked. There's just shit all over the floors. Which is just, it's one thing for like a ghost to be haunting the area, but to make it worse for everybody is just so annoying. - It sounds like either a, like a pl- - Well, no, 'cause why would it, that's so weird. I wonder why, yeah. Maybe like a disgruntled former employee it sounds like or something? - I guess so. I mean, I guess at least this one's not like shooting the manager, damn. - Right, right, right. - But if I worked somewhere and items were being thrown off the shelves all the time, I'd be so twitchy having to like duck all the time. - Yes, okay. - I'm annoying. Also, they ended up reporting this to the restaurant later and saying just so you know, we didn't destroy your fridge. We saw someone walk in there. We thought we were alone. And the restaurant later said, oh yeah, our employees have been seeing someone walk in and out of that thing for the last 10 years. And it always vanishes before they can find them. - I wonder how long it took before the managers believed the employees weren't actually creating a huge mess all the time. 'Cause it's like, how would you know whether that's just like one employee that you can't figure out? Or if it's like actually a ghost, I don't know. - And I wonder if it ransacks the place every time or like, it's almost like the sick game where you have to catch him just before he runs things. Otherwise, you have to stay late and clean. - Oh God. - So annoying. - It's just untannable. - I feel like in this whole episode, I just keep saying so annoying. But like, I really can't imagine. It just would be awful. I just don't wanna do it. I don't wanna clean anymore than I have to at a Taco Bell. - Don't make me. - Speaking of Taco Bell, that's our last place. - There's a Taco Bell in Worcester, Ohio. - Yeah, go Worcester. - Do you, okay. So you can go there if you'd like to experience a ghost. - There's a college there. And I just met a guy from there, fun fact. - Cool, are you gonna go on a date or what? - No, I was at a solar eclipse retreat. And he was like, I'm from Worcester, Ohio. And I was like, sick. (laughing) It's boring. - Well, that was the extent of the conversation. But I was like, sick, I'm from Ohio too. - That's nice. That was bad. That was like, oh yeah, I forgot about Worcester. Actually, someone from Sarah from our grad program went to Worcester, went to college. - Oh yeah. Yeah, fun fact. - I didn't, I, I'm saying, oh yeah, to like Sarah. I was like, oh, I haven't thought about Sarah in a long time. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, she went there. - Okay, Taco Bell, Worcester, Ohio. The employees there get grabbed by something. - Okay, not good, not good start. - The, apparently when they're closing, they'll hear creepy music at night playing and they can't figure out where it's coming from. - I prefer the turning the music off. - Yep, yeah, please turn it off, yeah. At 10.51 PM, please don't make it worse music. The location, this is like, absolutely just like, probably a rumor, but they say like, it was once a mental hospital and I'm like, a Taco Bell was once a, that's not a very big mental hospital. - A Taco Bell remains a mental hospital, we can all agree. - I feel like, sometimes I feel like, I should be put in a mental hospital, but instead I self-heal by going to Taco Bell. So this is a full circle. - It's really beautiful actually. - Nearby is also a haunted pizza hut. So I don't know if it's a Taco Bell pizza hut combo situation or if they're just really only right next to each other as separate entities. But here people, I was gonna say, let's imagine that I was like, actually they would probably, we'd probably get in some legal trouble. So maybe let's not. - They're too powerful. But you can hear doors open and closed, even though all the doors have been removed from this place. There's no more like, you know, it's an open space. - Weird, it's a Taco Bell. Yeah, you shouldn't hear doors slamming. That's really weird. That would be like, so uncanny valley. - Like right behind you, they're like, what the hell? - You'd be like, why did I feel weird about a door slamming? Then you'd be like, wait a minute, there's no doors in here. - There's also apparitions that walk through the walls. And one manager even saw, they heard something behind them, turned around and there was like a thick mist floating in the air and then vanished before their very eyes. - But that's scary 'cause it's like, how often is that thing behind me? - Right. - I'd be like constantly looking over my shoulder after that. - And why only now did it make a sound or does it never make a sound? And I just happened to hear the sound of something else and caught it this time. - Hey, that's so much worse. - Oh no. - And then all of a sudden it's standing there like, during the headlights 'cause you caught it. - Oh no. - Yuck, the main Taco Bell I'm gonna talk about or this is the final thing I'm talking about is in Twinsburg, Ohio. Have you heard about Twinsburg? - I have, but I don't really know where it is, sorry. - So this is literally listed as the most haunted place in Twinsburg, Ohio. It is this Taco Bell. - What? - I love that. - And this Taco Bell has been nicknamed the most haunted, the most haunted Taco Bell that there is is the one in Twinsburg, Ohio. - Really? Wow, so they're really nailing it. - So it's next to an old cemetery. So a lot of people say that. - Oh, it's up in Cleveland. - Yeah. - Too far away. - It's next to an old cemetery. So people say that this is where, it was actually a part of a burial ground before the land got reclaimed or whatever. But people see apparitions in the kitchen. They'll disappear or in vanish if you look at them for too long or if you recognize them or acknowledge them at all. Apparently there's four ghosts that people see. There's like a mountain man that people see. Whoa. He's standing in the drive and drive through window which is, can you imagine if you're just trying to order something? Like in the car side or on the employee side. I think the employee side. So you drive up and you think you're getting your food and it's just a random lumberjack there. Because at first I was thinking like you go to the window as the employee and like you open and there's that guy standing there and that's also scary but like they probably see way weirder shit on the other side of that drive through window. So yeah, to see it inside would be terrifying. There's a comedian that Allison's a big fan of Amber Autrey. She's been on tech talk and we went to go see her last week and she had a bit about how she used to work in McDonald's and one time she brought a life-size Barbie in and put it at the drive through window and she was like people didn't even notice they just go I love your eyes. Like they wouldn't even notice. Oh no. Oh no. I would prefer a life-size Barbie over a, no I'd prefer a mountain man over a life-size Barbie that'd be even. Yeah, I've never been okay with a life-size Barbie. The first sleepover I ever went to that she had a life-size Barbie and I didn't sleep the entire night so it was like that thing is gonna move. The shadow is really intense. And the eyes are so creepy in the night. Like they're just like humongous. Even if you turn a life-size Barbie around to face the corner it's somehow even worse now. That's exactly right because I'm like I'll wake up and she'll be turned back around and I know it. There's no doubt in my fucking mind. Yeah. Part of me would say like just like tuck her under the bed so like you don't even have to look at her but then I'd be terrified. I don't know. Something's gonna like hit the bed. Then you can never pee. No, you know she'll get your ankles. Grab your ankles. I don't think so. And you can't put her in the closet because you know she's standing there waiting for you. Yeah, the mom of the girl I was seeing seeing that day or sleeping over at she put it in the closet and I was still like I don't think that's gonna do it for me dog. I think the head's gonna have to wake. The head's gonna have to be buried in the yard first. And I think also I'll never be the same. Sorry. Tell my mom this was a terrible idea and she never should have let me have a sleep over. Oh, it's three. Who's having slippers at three? That's a toughy. That's a toughy. Oh my god. That fucking Barbie scared me so much. There's the mountain man at the drive through window. People also see a military vet but I don't know what he's up to. People just see him. They also see a girl in a white night gown. Love that there's a woman in white still. Sure. She sits at the corner in the dining room at night. I think it's actually a little girl. So she sits at the corner. It's almost as if she's like sitting there while her mom's working a shift or something. There's also a teenage guy that apparently he's in an old school employee outfit. He does not blend in with everybody else. He's in like an older outfit and he still helps clean but there was one time that a guy went up to him and asked for extra hot sauce and the teenager was unresponsive didn't seem to hear him and the customer was like who the hell is this guy and nobody else saw him there. Horrifying. And then people and then people see shadow figures in the halls and then the kitchen in the back area and all that. So anyway, shadow figures in like at work at work really. Yeah, I know. Thank you. Please give me a fucking break. Anyway, that is all the haunted fast food restaurants that I could find. Damn. Which I have already decided I think that the whispering and the shadow figures might be my least favorite. The whispering happened everywhere, which was super. I think what's eerie to me is how many places had a combination of toilets flushing, people getting their names called out, whispering and items lying off the shelf. It seemed to happen at every single location. It does seem to happen when I go to any fast food restaurant. People are calling names, whispering, things are flying around. So I don't know, I guess it's a good place for ghosts to fit in, you know. If you had to haunt a restaurant, which one are you haunting? Cheesecake Factory. Good one. I have no idea of fancy one probably. I want to just see what's going on. Nice. That's a good one. You know, I want to see like the fights and the proposals and the and the nasty bears, the mean people who are paying for expensive steaks. Oh, I want to people wearing bibs who are nasty to the staff. I'm going to have so much fun ruining their day. You know what I mean? Yeah. I agree. I'm going to get in their Lexus and drive home with them and then just be like, I'm going to throw stuff around. You know, it'd be a really fun-- I'll come up with a better plan. You'd be a really funny one to haunt is like dirty dicks in Florida. Oh, yeah. We're a rainforest cafe. Now that's good. But you'd get so over it, wouldn't you? I guess so. But that first day would be great. Yeah, it would be fun. And you have like ever revolving clientele, so that's true. And you could ride the lions? You could like ride a lazy river sort of. Don't get me started. Yeah, that's a good idea actually him. But the sounds, it's just a lot. You'd need like to turn the volume down if you can do that as a ghost, which I assume you can. Yeah, I mean, if you can cut sandwiches with a knife kind of, then flush all the toilets. You can definitely make it quieter. Then what the fuck? You're totally right. I just make it a thunderstorm all the time instead of once every 30 minutes. Oh, wait. That's right. You can then control it. So yeah, we'll just turn down the volume. Yeah, we can do that. It's called ghost powers. And then we can just have the rainstorm. I love that. You know, it'd be really creepy, though, is you know, in the shop, they always have what's your name like Tracy tree, the tree that's always talking. I hate that thing. I hate it. In the middle on plot. In the middle when I everything was like everything silent. And then she just turns on starts talking. It has to be when one employees left cleaning. And then, and then we'll do it like, oh, by the way, we're both there now. And then we'll do it. And then like, they'll be like, guys, this crazy thing happened, but then it'll happen to no one else. Yeah. And then we'll do it one more time to that guy. And then I swear to God. And then we'll just do it to like, well, maybe the girl he has a crush on or something, you know, and then we'll just like, well, he's like, I make so much fun. And we'll make it say things that it is not programmed to say totally. We'll say, Lucy has a crush on you too. That's funny, because I was thinking something more sinister like boo, like, ah, oh god. Well, yeah, that is, that is way. Or like, just evil cackel. No one would believe you. Well, yeah. Well, no one would believe you if it said, lacy also has a crush on you. It'd be like, yeah, bro, whatever. The talking tree told you that lacy has a crush on you. It's like, no, it literally did. Imagine it got so popular that then like actual like paranormal enthusiasts started gathering and like trying to like book investigations there. And everyone's just doing a say on surround a tree, a fake tree. Not a real tree. Like an animatronic tree. That's like really. I mean, it would be the creepiest black and white footed like night night camera vision. Absolutely. It's all her eyes just going back and forth. Oh, it's not. And they blink. It's like, stop that. I will say I just bought a bumper sticker from the reinforced cafe store that says I break for animatronic wildlife. Love her. Now that's really good. I wish I would have absolutely bought that if I had seen that sticker. Okay. Anyway, let's go to the happy hour. I just went through another situation where I organized and decluttered all my clothing. And then for some reason, I told myself now I can go buy more clothes. That's called girl, man. Literally, I broke even. I also bought a new Pokemon card last night. I also went out to a couple fancy dinners. I've been spending my money all over the place. 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It was very precious. One of them was dating a guy who was a triplet and all of them also went to the school together. And then one night in this house, house of like five girls, someone broke in. Two of them ended up surviving, but one of the two that survived literally saw allegedly the killer in an all in black. They made eye contact with each other and he walked off and she just didn't know if it was someone who broke in or someone who was staying and was now leaving in the middle of the night. She ends up running down to her roommate's room who was still alive and the two of them stayed there and not knowing that everyone else in the building had died. And then after that, it gets shaky for me. - Yeah, absolutely no, that was really helpful because I think that's probably like the gist of what most people remember. So the address, which is often referred to by the address, so it's 11-22 King Road. I will say also they've demolished the house since, but it was 2022 and the five friends and mentioned were Kalegan Salvas, Madison, Madison or Maddie Mogen, Zanna Cernodal, Dylan Mortensen and Bethany Funk and Dylan and Bethany were the ones who survived. Dylan is the one who witnessed the intruder and when police eventually arrived, they found the remaining four people killed in the house stabbed to death. And one of them was the triplet that you mentioned, where is my, sorry, June 1st, literally. - It was standing out on my stomach. - In the most morbid way, it was very cute to see a fuzzy little cat, at least, but you know, I'm glad he got his airtime for a moment, but man, his claws. And Zanna Cernodal, her boyfriend, like you mentioned, was Ethan, Ethan Chapin, who was a triplet with siblings, Hunter and Maisie. And last we left off, the families were notified. This is, I mean, the kids were notified or the students were notified, but they were not notified by police. They were notified by getting an alert from the university as they're sitting outside in the driveway for hours, not knowing if anyone inside, like what happened. They didn't know it was a homicide until they got the alert from, it's called a vandal alert from the university. It's all just, it's all just very traumatizing. And then on top of that, while these people are trying to grieve in process and understand what's even going on and get through this, unfortunately, it was similar to the Gabby Petito and some of the other big cases that blew up on TikTok and social media where people were just going, crossing lines and going too far and creating stories, narratives that just damaged people's lives and lost people their jobs and, I mean, really put the people through the ringer. And so Dylan was one of those examples because she saw the intruder but didn't call the police. And like you said, you know, this is not something she understood what was going on. She'd been drinking. It was just like a hazy memory. She thought maybe it was just one of their friends. And she was getting like threatened daily, you know, and so was the other boyfriend. Like these people are just completely like, an onslaught of stuff at them. And so that's kind of where we left. The last thing I believe I said was that they found a knife sheath and they were able to trace that knife sheath, the DNA on it back to someone. - Okay, yes. - And that's where we're gonna begin. So here we go, part two. What the public did not know was that the killer had left the knife sheath behind next to Maddie in her bed. This was a critical mistake. Investigators collected DNA from a button on the sheath and they used forensic genealogy to follow its path. At the same time, they were also searching for a vehicle of interest, a white Hyundai Elantra. They requested assistance from other authorities. You can also see like there's black and white footage of this car speeding off in the middle of the night and that's where they saw the Hyundai Elantra. That's why they're looking for this car. They requested assistance from other authorities locating any white Hyundai Elantra made between 2011 and 2013. But this was not public knowledge. It was just amongst police authorities throughout the states. The vehicle had been captured on surveillance footage driving slowly near the King Roadhouse before the murders and then like booking it after the murders. So they were like, well, this is highly suspicious, obviously. And as these two searches are kind of going on, investigators identify a possible partial match to the DNA on the sheath. And it belonged to a man in Pennsylvania. Now, not him, but his son, 28-year-old Brian Coburger, owned a white Hyundai Elantra. So that's a nice little crossover. That car had actually already been pulled over about a day after the police had put out this note about the car. But his was in a 2011 to 2013 model. So they just like didn't report it. Turns out it was a different year. But that was actually his car he had been pulled over. Oh, okay, good. Isn't that by any like bananas? I just, there's also body cam footage of him getting pulled over and you're just seeing him like, oh, what's wrong officer? And it's like, you know the sigh of relief that came out of him when he got to get away with it? Like the way that he must have pissed his fucking pants, right? Like, got away with it. And the way that he must have thought he was such a bad ass after where he makes me want to just-- It's just like added to part of his bragging for a while, I bet. Totally. Ugh, what a fucking creep. So they didn't end up reporting it. But it is wild because they do have the body cam footage of like them getting pulled over. And it's like, why are you even speeding anyway after like-- Like, truly, if you come out of crime, you've got to wait with it. Why on earth are you ever testing those waters again? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Brian turns out Brian Coburger, that's-- he's become like the boogie man in a lot of places. Like I've talked to people who say like their young kids are terrified of this guy. Really? Because yeah, because it was like hit, first of all, his face, like he has one of those like stairs where you're like, oh, I don't look him up. Brian with a Y-K-O-H, like he looks like he wants to hurt women because he doesn't want to hurt women. That's his whole thing. Yeah, the second you look at him, you know that he-- And the way he poses, the way he like smirks and looks like a fucking-- He has a really-- Really? I don't know what the right word is, but-- Or like his penetrating eyes, like-- It's like his forehead is like so ridged in front of his eyes that his eyes look shadowed and dark all the time. Yes, he has dark eyes, yeah. Unlike every level of that word. Yeah, I agree. Wow. This fucking guy, I mean, he's just a creep on every level. He was a PhD criminology student-- Of course. --and TA, a teaching assistant at Washington State University in Pullman, Washington. And Pullman and Moscow are both university towns. They share the border, Washington, Idaho border, and they're less than 10 miles away apart. So it's like a 15-minute drive. They're basically the same town. Like if you're in one, you're like 10, 15 minutes from the other. So essentially, he attends and works at Washington State, which is like 15 minutes down the road. Got it. Ryan did his undergraduate degree back in his home state, Pennsylvania, where he focused on criminal psychology. I mean, really, it's like-- Like, it's just many more fucking obvious. He was intensely interested in what thoughts and feelings people experienced while they were actively committing crimes. Ew. So was this part of his fucking PhD research to test it out for himself? Right. No, it was more like his PhD shit was research for himself for his own experience, which is like-- Disgusting. It's just sick. So what he would do is he would conduct these surveys, but they were like-- sometimes he just did them just to find out. It wasn't necessarily for school. He would post on Reddit, like, hi, I'm a student at whatever. And I am conducting a graduate survey. And then he would ask these really weird specific questions, like, how did you pick your victim? Like, he would send these to people. He would post them in subreddits for former convicts, or what, I mean, like, where people were pet experience being imprisoned for some violent crime. And he would look for people who had raped hurt women, killed women, and then have them fill out these surveys of like, what were you feeling, and like, what did your body go through, and like, what-- And it's like, what the fuck do you-- Like, he was fixated on-- He was fully fixated on what this experience would be like. And he would also want to plan it. So he would ask, like, were you charged? Were you convicted? Did you leave evidence? Like, he was also trying to literally get research for his own life, like, on how to do something like this. So Brian's father had recently flown to Washington and driven home to Pennsylvania with Brian for winter break. And along the way, Brian, like I said, was stopped by authorities and captured twice on body cam footage. And he-- I figured-- I thought he'd got pulled over once. I'm sorry. He got pulled over twice on their drive from-- Oh, my god. Like, get us together. From Washington's state to fucking Pennsylvania and his dad's in the car and all the footage. And they're like, what's wrong, officer? Twice, he got pulled over. And twice. He wanted to have the-- Do you know what it was for? It was for tailgating. I really get pulled over twice for tailgating within a matter of days is crazy well. I imagine he had a lot of pent up rage So he was probably it was probably showing up in his road rage. Yeah But also like you're right. It was either road rage and he was not hiding his anxiety about what he'd done well Yeah, or he like really just didn't fucking Karen was I Know I mean, it was like I don't know either. I don't know either I wouldn't I guess there's no way to know but it's just like yeah, the fact that they like ran his record and it was like He just got pulled over twice since the murders like on his way home from Basically committing the murders. It's just wild crazy so I can't imagine pick your dad up at the airport after you've done something like that and be like okay now Let's drive home for Christmas. I can't imagine being that dad realizing I was in the car with a fucking murderer Like that you create. It's your. I mean. Yeah, oh my god. It's the dad's fall But it's like it's it's not but it's like that realization to feel like you're in the car with someone you trust the most And it's actually somebody should trust at least. It's crazy. Oh Or someone you just didn't know at all, you know Okay, so He was warned twice to slow down and stop following other vehicles so closely While staying in Pennsylvania investigators had like clocked him at this point So they started staking out his house and they watched him do all sorts of weird shit at his house like he Was like wearing gloves and like doing all these weird. He's just so weird fucking dude While he was staying in Pennsylvania They were sticking out his home and they collected his father's DNA from garbage outside and when his father came back as a partial match They were like, okay, well now we're pretty confident that Brian's our guy The probable cause affidavit for Brian's arrest also detailed Brian's cell phone data the night of the murders He had left his university housing in Washington that night headed from Pullman in the direction of Moscow and there's no reason for him to have done this His phone stopped reporting to the network at 247 a.m. Which investigators claim is consistent with it like He has a PhD. Oh, sorry, sorry Jack. Oh Wait a minute. Sorry. I think the universe sent you that sneeze on purpose because I wanted to say that the day this episode comes out It's Jack's birthday. Happy birthday Jack. I'm ready Jack and I keep meaning to say and I keep forgetting and then you sneezed and said sorry Jack and I went oh, wait So thank you for doing that happy birthday Jack. I appreciate you. Sorry about all the and Trauma you have to listen to every week. I know man. You really go through it. So thank you for everything you do. We appreciate you We'll text you also, but I don't know. I just saw it on the calendar and I was like fun. Okay so Did it it uh? His phone stopped like this guy He he thinks he's so smart, right, but then he drives there and then turns his phone on airplane mode On the way there. It's like why would you turn it on airplane mode before you left the house dumbass? Yeah, turn the whole phone off. What are you talking about tracks you all the way there? It tracks you on the way there and then you turn it off idiot. Okay, so Just I can't so he turns off the phone at 2.47 a.m At 4.48 a.m Shortly after the murders says about like a two-hour almost exactly window. Yeah, his phone reconnects to the to the network Instead of taking the direct route, so he's still in Moscow when he turns his phone on and like what do you think is gonna happen for those two hours? Like I don't understand and and also like this It's telling but I mean it sounds like For two hours. He was Invading their home, right? It could be but he could have been hyping himself up He could have been watching video like who knows what he was doing, you know what I mean? And like so I was gonna say what the hell was he doing for two hours because this feels like a well I mean, and I also like to stab four people to death is like also a very Yes would be yeah, probably a long incident, but I don't know how much of it was like him just like And and we don't like okay. We'll get to him. So So his phone reconnects instead of taking the direct route from Moscow back to Pullman He diverts south taking a long route through residential neighborhoods and small farm communities So he just takes like a weird route home At 5.30 he returns home, but at 9 a.m His phone data reports that he returned to the motherfucking crime scene I'm not surprised, but I am I didn't I know he feel it feels like something In his MO and I don't know why but doesn't it totally though like for researchers so good because he thinks he's so good He thinks he's too good. That's what these people think that they're too good to get caught You know what I mean that they're owed something So he at 9 a.m. His cell phone data reported that he briefly returned to King Street and this is before the police were ever called So that's wild extra weird. Yeah, so he thought maybe He wanted to check if hadn't come yet, so maybe he just thought like maybe I should go check and make sure everyone's dead before there's witnesses or something No, I think it's that thing that they say where like they return to check if anyone's found out and then like Usually police are there and it's like oh you've returned to the scene of the crime to see and you're too nosy, you know, but like I feel like he Must have gone there seen nothing and been like probably thrilled because nobody's called the police You know like there's no caution tape like Like he feels like oh, he's probably at least farther away from it than If there were already police swarming the place. Yeah, it's just sick. So he's just getting off on all this. It's like it's just horrid So all of his cell phone data was also supplemented with security footage because a lot of the Buildings around some of them have like security cameras that captured his car at the King Roadhouse immediately before and after the murders like You're on camera buddy Finally the DNA evidence on the sheath with which matched Brian was enough for authorities to arrest him And on December 29th the victim's families were notified that a suspect was in custody In the following day December 30th 47 days after the murders the police announced that an arrest had been made Once Brian's identity became public harassment of the victim's friends and family continued People began making fan accounts for Brian and like fake social media accounts someone with a fake Brian profile message one of the friends Josie And said hey, it's Brian. Sorry about the bitches laughing emoji. What the fuck is wrong with people? What is wrong with people sick Like sit taunting Can you imagine all your friends being murdered and then someone reaching opportunity to be the murderer and going sorry about those bitches. Fuck like for what? It's your life your values straight, but dude like get your fucking values straight. I see a lot of Idiots on on TikTok because one of my big things on my algorithm is constantly like people responding to like people being Right like the commentary and like insensitive and there's like a lot of people these days On the right who think it's funny like it's like like a game to them To dress up as ice agents just to torment everybody like to oh, yeah, and I've seen that I've been seeing a lot of videos of people being like when it But it's like it's that same mentality of like I love seeing you suffer or like I just want to I just want to make things worse for you when you're all ready at your Yeah, it's just bullying because hurt people hurt people right like like fucking bullying How can you have such a complete lack of empathy like why like what do you have no self-worth? It's incredible to just not be able to even To not to know that it's gonna hurt someone's feelings and that's the motivator to do it and not to not do it. 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No, yeah They really have like good quality ingredients too So it's like you actually feel like you're eating a really nutritious meal You're gonna love hungry root as much as we do For a limited time get 40% off your first order plus get a free item in every box for life Go to hungryroot.com/drink and use code drink That's hungryroot.com/drink code drink to give 40% of your first box and a free item of your choice for life So essentially everyone wanted to know why Brian now had targeted the king road house And there was all this speculation about like what you know, did you know any of them like it didn't seem like There was any connection between him and these people which is also really wild because it was such a violent gruesome like yeah like did he write it to them on campus or something like it was like did they have a falling out like does he know any of them um there was speculation that he you know wanted to kill young women because he was a member of the in cell community um involved Terry celibate for those who don't know um men who believe they are being denied sex against their will and that sex is being had by like a small number of men um and that they're not part of it and uh they should be entitled to it in what in whatever way they can um so after he was arrested members of online in cell message boards start making posts like praising Brian and being like yeah he got them back you know like uh an FBI agent involved with the case said we never saw evidence that shows Brian coberger is part of the in cell movement but the theory persisted and you'll see why because women who knew Brian you can't hide this shit came forward and described him as making them deeply uncomfortable um a student at Washington state university had previously accused Brian of being aggressive toward her and following her to her car more than once but the university police didn't pass her reports to the city police because according to them nothing that occurred rose to the level of a crime oh good however he was ultimately fired from his teaching assistant position because his behavior had gotten so out of control and for poor performance so while awaiting trial Brian's defense team argued that it would take them much longer than they'd been given to go through all the evidence available and build an adequate death because at this point he was facing a death sentence for all four murders his defense requested more trial or time in the trial was postponed indefinitely as the rest of Moscow and the University of Idaho tried to move forward residents of king road felt haunted by this house's history like for example one of the friends or siblings at the fraternity house their window faced the king roadhouse so every single day they had to look out and see like where their brother was killed. Ava could see the police tape still up more than a year later like there was still pieces of tape like it's still it was still just like a traumatic thing to have to look at every day um people were also of course coming into film and like make tick talks about it and stay in front of it and take a photo I mean you know it was like a tourist thing too um finally like I said earlier the University decided to have it torn down uh Zana and Kayleigh's families actually opposed the destruction of the building but the University president said it's a grim reminder of the heinous act that took place there while we appreciate the emotional connection some family members of the victims may have to this house it is time for its removal and to allow the collective healing of our community to continue um however the family said it was not just an emotional connection that they thought the house should remain intact throughout the trial because there might be evidence inside it and I was like it's not a terrible point it's actually I think a very good point um but in the end there would be no trial because on July 2nd 2025 Brian accepted a deal he pleaded guilty on all four counts I know a first degree murder and one count of burglary in order to remove the death sentence he instead accepted four consecutive life sentences without parole ten years for the burglary and waived his rights to future appeals uh the Gonzales family felt very ambushed by the deal saying in a statement they vaguely mentioned a possible plea on friday without seeking our input and presented the plea on sunday for wonderful young people lost their lives yet the victims families were treated as opponents from the outset we weren't even called about the plea we received an email with a letter attached that's how the prosecutors office treats murder victims families I mean I'd he late I was gonna say I feel like from the very beginning they were not prioritized I mean even all the way down to like they're standing right there at the crime scene and had to find out through a text with everybody else who's going on who lived in the house we're not being told what was going on yeah it was it was not handled well they deserve to know before the public knows I absolutely agree like this is all just botched really um he so Brian later attempted to re-can his decision and request a trial and it was like too late bro yeah you can't that's not how this works you studied this didn't you not well I don't know I HD not well exactly I will forever just want to ask and why the fuck he was even studying this unless it was like no it was just for his own like yeah it was it was what he was interested in yeah that's I wonder if he ever had intentions not I wonder if he ever had intentions of studying that stuff to try to like be interested in it for for a better reason or if he only ever want if he only ever got into it because he knew he was gonna do something bad no no so that's a really interesting point because I do remember some of the highlighted quotes from his online posts and journal entries or whatever you call them and forum posts he would say things like I just feel nothing like can someone help me understand why like I why I feel nothing like he was basically describing a lot of like psychopathy sociopathy like these traits and I think just like he was like I don't feel empathy like you know like he was clearly trying to understand it so I think that was part of it too is like trying to understand why he had this urge yeah yeah I don't know that heness and and some of the posts were like I think I'll do something bad one day but I don't know like I don't know it was just kind of like he was trying to figure himself out through all this and then had clearly made up his mind that he was that it was women's yeah well I mean I don't know there was there and I I would say he at least is heavily leaning towards and sell communities but it reminds me a lot of they share like him so yeah they sure like him what that's worth it reminds me a lot of the there was a another masculine shooting at this was years ago at San Bernardino at their university where a guy in the in-sell community shot up a sorority house because he thought the women deserved because they wouldn't look at him or give away a chance like so this isn't the worst time it's even happened no no of course not yeah it's really dark it's really dark um gives me the chivers yeah so in the wake of all of this um many of course continue to ask why he would do such a thing um into these people and like you know just make any sort of sense of it um there's lots of docky series that dive into the psychology his life history trying to find some explanation now this is chilling admins from a Facebook group that was dedicated to discussing the case with over 200,000 members believe that Brian was secretly a member of the group I'm sure due to alarming and suspicious comments that one particular member would leave throughout the investigation and it was like maybe they knew something you know and hinting at it like this guy's just sort of fucking baby I'm sure um whether or not he was arrested the account just got deleted so they were like he was absolutely in those groups he would love to see people finally giving him a pat on the back or something totally like discussing him yeah yeah um Skyborgman who directed a Netflix documentary about the murder set of Brian I think his silence is a way of attempting to keep the spotlight focused on him which is an interesting angle like he's being so quiet because he's not he's just like let them talk you know but he also I think can't uh shut up for that long I'm sure he'll say something dumb soon um Emily Brandt says that Brian is a loser and nobody should be talking about him at all and I love that um hey man instead she wishes people remember her friends lives and that they would remember them right after so many people got so much wrong and I love Emily for that she said they were not what happened to them who they are as people is so much more than the Idaho for their friend Phoebe McGrath said in a documentary interview I think that the world has made their idea of who Kayley Maddie Zanna and Ethan were so I think it's important to still emphasize like who they were as friends who they were as people they aren't just these victims so those who knew Ethan remember him as outgoing kind funny someone who's made who made everyone's lives better in the 20 years he lived 20 years old um throughout his entire life he and his siblings were barely apart for more than 12 hours at any time his father Jim said I don't have any regrets whatsoever I know that he lived the very best his mother Stacy said I would imagine there's parents in the similar situation that would look back and think oh you know maybe I should have worked half time we can't come up with one thing we would change in our life Maddie's mother Karen kept Maddie's room at home intact to spend time in so she can feel close to her daughter she said she is very little room in her heart for anger and just remembers what a loving and happy person Maddie was um Karen said that when Maddie was a baby she decided she never wanted her to know one moment of sadness so she never let her cry Jesus and she said she'd just all she wanted was to make her feel confident and loved another friend named DJ said he would remember all the dances Maddie would make up and those would those were going all over TikTok like when the murder the news of the murders came out those went viral of course um but she was known for having her laptop on hand to play music for everyone um meanwhile Stephen Christie and Salva's founded a non-profit and Kaley's honor um the foundation is called murder has a name and here is the mission statement we are committed to expanding access to advanced forensic DNA technology investigative resources and critical. So that victims are never forgotten and families are not left without options through innovation advocacy and action we work to ensure that every case has the opportunity to be reexamined every name is honored and every path to justice is pursued every victim has a name every family deserves answers every case deserves a chance to be solved so they're like trying to really get into this forensic genealogy thing and make that more accessible and open for people going through similar experiences. Yeah, Christie said of of the organization I was at the point in time that I did not feel like I was going to be able to live life I am not going to be able to continue living not knowing and to think that there are families that do so because she found out right who the killer was but she's like I couldn't imagine I can't imagine being one of the families who. Didn't get answers and still waiting waiting and like she said it was hell for those 47 days and 47 seconds feels like eternity right exactly so it's like to go on even longer she was like I don't know how anyone does that and she said it's just about trying to give families answers and I just find that awesome. Murder has a name is the name of the organization if anyone wants to look it up in honor of Maddie and Zana Ashland couch co founded a scholarship fund and nonprofit it's called made with kindness foundation and she says the endless laughter and crazy times with them our memories i'll never forget the made with kindness scholarship fund will give us the opportunity to help support the lives of college students so it's basically just a college scholarship which is really neat. Yeah and Ethan also has a scholarship program founded in his honor called Ethan's smile scholarships he was known for his big grin wow and it is just really it's just how something good comes out of every one of these cases is beyond me because sometimes I can't fathom how but yeah that's that's that's the story wow. Wow I think the craziest part still is that he didn't even really have a relationship to any of them he just it yeah he just saw them he just it makes me believe that he's done this before I can't imagine my first crack out of the box i'm going to go into a house full of like seven people and yeah but you know he's been like planning this in his head for years and he thought it was going to be this like flawless execution and that he was going to be able to do it. And that he was going to be able to do it again and again you know it's like I think such a fucking grand spectacle of a murder like there's no way he would have gotten away with that if he had killed like four maybe I mean you could be right maybe and also like I didn't even get into the details because they were just taking forever but some of the stuff and citations he got for being a creep to women and like some of the shit he would say about women on the internet like it was. Diable it was that he could have probably I mean because one of the boyfriends was there and I maybe he didn't expect the boyfriend to be there something and he just like well I can overpower any woman because they're just dumb female or some shit like that yeah yeah yeah I think he must have either like spotted that it was he must have probably drew I mean it's 15 minutes 20 minutes from his home or whatever you probably just drove around there all the time and was just. Clock and he must have been like like scouting or something like right like that's what I guess but I don't know there's no way he just like jackpot hit a house full of girls you know i'm sure he just like was scoping around and like I do love when they think they're the fucking smartest person in the room and then you can't even remember the fucking knife sheath like at what point did he go fuck which makes me think maybe that's why he went back he was like I should. Do I go back in there do I just am I didn't even think of that I got at some point he went where the fuck is the knife sheath and then realized the bomb car is like it doesn't matter because your cars are even spotted twice now on the cameras you idiot so if you. If he had gone back yeah anyway. What a fucker well he's gonna talk soon he he's way too full of himself talking to sell for sure he wants attention and a book deal in a nonsense I mean whatever they all do or I'm sure he wants to be like someone that they interview for future criminology textbooks or something yeah he won't yeah exactly like. Sick go you all right I gotta go on a screaming at me downstairs I can hear gone my friends home my friend Lyona's home right right well now that you're friends home I hope the two of you have a great play date and we'll all talk to you next week and. Sounds good that's why we drink.