E495 Triple Trampoline Entendres and Juniper Hauntings

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But it's nocd.com to schedule a free call and learn more. Do you have a drink? I do, I do. Thank you for asking. Otherwise, this all falls apart. Otherwise, what are we even doing here? I even have my cowboy lap desk. Oh, I still have TikTok open under my butt. Cool. It's been open for. What's the video? Show. Tell us the video. What's your algorithm out right now? It's so embarrassing. Tell us. It's called a little confidence boost for you. But I'm learning about the goddess Enanna and Ishtar, which actually that's why it's paused on TikTok because I was Googling Ishtar and I went down a rabbit hole about Ishtar and then I was like, oh, I'm going to pray to Ishtar. So I let some incense and pray to Ishtar and then I was like, oh, we have to record. So that's how that all happened. Great. Do you not do collections on like save folders of stuff on TikTok? I do all the time. But I think I was just like in the midst of the TikTok and I like start Googling it. And then I was like, oh, I want to light some incense. I mean, the ADHD thing is very strong today. Big news on my phone front. I got a new case. I've literally become a 50 year old woman. - Show me. - Show me. - Show me. - Show me. - This is the seller. - Okay. - Wait a minute. - It's the necklace purse thing. (laughing) I can't stop myself. (laughing) It's a no. - What? - If you don't know about these, I think every mother in the world probably has one. But seeing them on like, I saw them for a day on my TikTok ads and I was like, no, I'm not interested. - I am, it's literally. - I guess so. - I mean, it looks like I'm carrying a little purse but like, but I never put my, I have to put my phone in a pocket. I can just drop it out of my hands. It just hangs there. And then when I'm ready, it's going. - Okay, I mean, I do that but I have this. - Okay. That's just the bracelet version, so the necklace version, nice. - Yeah, it's kind of just like I hang it on my arm. - What's the look at that? - Like a clutch. Oh, look at this angry birthday guy. I love this case so much. - Beautiful. - I just felt it in my bones and it's just every, I could see Leona impersonating that pretty good. - She was so excited when I picked the case 'cause I did not pick it for her and I took it home and she was like, I like that. - Maybe like, I've passed the test. - I mean, it reminds me of Brumpy Cat, so. - It is like, but like in like a cute chic version, you know? - Yeah, modern. My mom would call that more funky, funky grumpy cat. - All right, well now I, listen, now you're talking like a six-year-old woman, so please put it out. - I'm telling you, you know what? You laugh, but she's really useful. And also, by the way. - I'm happy for you. Where did you get the case? - I just like online or like at the store. - No, I thought I'd find one online. I ended up finding this. I couldn't tell you the name now. It was one of those funky phone boutique little places where you got the cases. - Oh, geez. Wow, so you really went eclectic. - You know, but I feel like-- - You tried them on before. That's why I'm asking. Was it a fitting room? - No, I actively wanted a phone. I know this is like, in 10 years this will be laughable but everyone's all about this color right now. The forest green. - Somebody clip this. - Well, hang on. - For the future, so I can just hate myself. - Hello. - Do we need more reasons? - By the way, I just threw it away. I just threw it my phone away. - I didn't have to worry about it. - Yeah, it looks like it hit you right in the stomach though when it rebounded on that sort of thing. - No, but do you guys try? - Please stop. - You like that? - Do you like what's happening? - No, I don't think that's a good idea. You look like Steve Irwin, but not. - It's really, I don't even know what you could mean by that. - Well, it's like you look like you have either a lanyard or some sort of like leash device. - No. - I wish they made like some like a cooler strap I could look like an adventurer or something. - Hey dude, they do. I promise you. - You mean I don't need this like slightly bedazzled cord? - They make everything. What are you talking about? I wish they made a cooler strap for fun. - You can't. - Love work. - Maybe not at the funky boutique you went to, but I was just saying. - Did you buy like a henna shirt also while you were there? - No, I was saying. - A life is good. - Twitter, perhaps. - Man, that's funky for men on vacation as a life is good shirt. They eat those up our Tommy Bahamas. - Or divorce dads who buy them for you as a tourist gift. - Absolutely. - And they go on business trips with their new girlfriend. That's where I got most of mine. - This is from the Bahamas, which is cool though. - Really? What did it say? Life is good. (laughing) - How did you know? - By the way, fun fact, life wasn't not good. (laughing) - Well, and that's why we drink, right? - Life was not good for anybody. - Do you want to tell people why life is not good for you this week? Why do you drink? - Oh, absolutely. I would love to. I'm drinking my vitamin water as you know. My favorite, and the pink is my favorite flavor, but it's caffeinated, so I have to be careful. - What's the pink flavor? - Kiwi strawberry, focus. - Damn. - Okay, it's obviously not. But yeah, so today I drink because we are about halfway through the last week of summer break, and it's like sad and exciting, because it's like, oh, do you think, so this next year, she'll be going into kindergarten. - Still preschool, she's like right at the cutoff age. So she, it's like a few days within her birthday, but it's like a better fit anyway. She's like with kids closer to her age, but she'll preschool, yeah. - Does she still do the thing where I'm only asking, 'cause it's top news in Alison Stanley's group chat right now, but Alison's niece is going into preschool for the first time this week, and there's a lot of tears. It has, is Leona no longer crying when you leave? She, like, all chill? - Well, she's a double Libra, so like, she's a social butterfly. Her whole thing is like, I just wanna see my friends, which is great, but sometimes I'm her friend, and she's like, I just wanna see my friend mom, 'cause we have so many things to do, and I'm like, it is like six a.m., [BLANK_AUDIO] whatever, you know, whatever the case may be or like it's time for school, I know I'm your friend or whatever, but you have other friends that are more your size. Um, I think on some of you on size, I say to her, that's a very funny person. Thank you so much. What the fuck? I hope that was not a person. Carl, I can't do this. No, what are you talking about? Okay, the roofers are here and I just saw this massive thing like fall from above a tree past my window and hit the ground, but I nobody's yelling or screaming. So I think it must have been just their supplies. Yeah. It was a huge like rucksack size thing or person size thing. What are they chopping down? Maybe it was a part of that. They're not chopping anything. They're just trying to repair the roof and they've been trying to repair the roof and then that tornado came through and I had to scream at them to get off the effing ladder because this ladder was still up to the third floor and this like tornado winds were coming through a tree landed on a car outside my house and smashed it like it was an insane. I'll tell I'll tell it in in the group chat, um, Christine. Literally, we had been recording that day and you said, oh, like a storm's coming through where it's kind of rainy right now. It was like, I love this weather. And then like the next home alone, the very next thing I see is Christine taking a picture in the storm cellar. It's like pitch black and looking up into like the real actual house like like here's hiding in like a pin and then we're sneaking over that scary haunted fucking spot. You never even want to be in. You were standing in there. Must have been bad if you were down there. By the way, I was home alone. So I was opening the trap door and I kept screaming like, I'm an independent woman. Because I'm like, the trap door is like this side. I mean, it's like eight feet. It's huge. It's like a huge, maybe not eight. Yeah, it's pretty big. You have to like really sometimes take two people and then you have to prop it up with this huge like plank. I mean, it's insane. And so I was like, here Katie, Katie. They're just standing there. And meanwhile, like trees are literally coming down like three people. You hear a glass shattering. It was crazy. And our power went out for like until the next afternoon, like it was out for like 24 hours, which was really horrible. You know, it's there's worse things in this world I know. But man, it's been, and that was, yeah, that feels like 10 years ago now. But so they're back from their trip. And now Leon is home and she's back with her friend mom. And I'm back with my friend, Leon. We have a lot of fun. Today, the trampoline was out. And she was like that little, the mini kids one. And like, she was just jumping on the trampoline and the living room for like two hours. I mean, bothering me the whole time. So it wasn't like a peaceful two hours. But I was like, how do you move so much for so long? Like I just do the energy. I mean, I don't, I'm also like a very like, I need a lot of rest. I'm very sick. I don't want that. I agree. A thousand percent. She's like trampoline park, then the zoo, then the aquarium, then the museum, then the. I don't even think I want that much energy. Like that, that's too much. It's like my bones hurt just thinking about it. I don't, yeah, I, I want more energy than what I have, but I don't need that. My mom's like that, I guess. But like, I'm not like that. I'm like, I'm like, let me just lay here. I fucking love just laying here. But I know one day she'll get there, right? Because she's like four and I'm like, she has so much energy. She's a kid. She has like so much excitement about things, you know? But like, I can't wait for when she's a little older. We can, because we do have those moments where we're both just kind of like chilling. And I'm like, yeah, my god, it's happening. And then like five minutes later, it's kind of the magic is shattered. But the illusion is shattered when she's like, where's my. Jesus. Yeah, I feel like you eventually one day she'll not be asking you for Jesus. That's not true. I've seen you ask your mom for Jesus. I'll be asking her for Jesus. Like while you're up, girl, we'll be asking each other for Jesus, which is really the most beautiful type of relationship, you know? Yeah, I don't know when it started for me, but I remember lying on the couch and just watching TV specifically at Law and Order Sphere with my mom. And I remember thinking, this is so nice. I never really want to do anything else ever again. So it clicks eventually. That's so beautiful. I like, I can't wait for that. And I know that that's my future, because we are already really annoyingly like in sync about things. It's funny. You mentioned that by the way, the not that I'm not like trying to do anything, but my algorithm, I think, is trying to thrust it upon me, is trying to sell me a trampoline. And I thought you were going to say, have a kid. And I was like, whoa, no, no, trampoline is hilarious. Well, they're calling them, uh, this is clearly like a, a, a diet culture situation where we're not calling a trampoline every video on my phone keeps calling it a rebounder. And I'm like, okay, girl, it's a trampoline. Oh, I've seen that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just a little one you put in in your house, I guess. But yeah, like a fitness one. They are not selling you well, because every time I see someone jumping on one of those things, I'm like, yeah, that looks exhausting. Like I'm like, why would I do that? Yeah, that's not the fun of a trampoline. The fun is like bouncing on your butt and like playing popcorn playing on it and looking, playing popcorn, like pretending it's like good duck duck goose, pretending, um, pretend someone going under the trampoline, um, looking at constellations and bats. Like there's so many other things that a rebounder's not going to give you. And that's why it's called a rebounder, I think. I think so. I just not as fulfilling as the original. I'm sure it means something like rebounding on your journey or some shit like that. No, no, no, it's because it's bouncy, but we're not going to talk about that. I think it's double and sort of like a rebound. I think it's a triple imponder really. I think so too. Well, I mean, it's funny that you mentioned like all the things that you can do on a trampoline and you literally listed just looking at the sky. That's something just like not moving on it is mostly what I want to do on it. Like again, I see a trampoline. My first thought is how can I be horizontal on this? So like I'm yet precisely hopefully the algorithm moves away. Making your hair stand up on end like again, there's so many things you can do that are not vertically moving, you know? God, speaking my language. I know, right? I mean, as you'll know, notice if you're watching this on YouTube, I am in my bedroom and I'm in my bed because these roofers that may or may not still be with us have been, have been, um, using my office as like that. I'm supposed to say like the escape hatch. I mean, it's like a window. They're just using the window, but they climb out like, I mean, I'm telling you, this is like really high off the ground. So they keep climbing in and out of it. And I was like, I will not be able to focus on a single thing if I'm watching this. They won't be able to. They'll be walking past a live podcast. They'll be they'll be like, we actually didn't consent to being part of this recording you're doing. And I'm be like, you're right. They're just listening to like horrible traumas and true crime. And every time they walk by you get a little louder with like, and then he broke into the house, but then he got stabbed and like, they just let them know where they are. I've seen that many of the guy like people walking past me when I'm leaving my friend of voice note. And it's like, yeah, but then, um, they swat, like, yeah, her head wasn't actually attacked. And then he goes like, oh, hi, how are you? And then I was like, hi, how are you? I love that it's a universal experience at this point. I think it must be. Well, so, so wait, why do you drink? Do we answer that? Oh, yeah, it's the last week of summer break. So it's like, we're literally like pulling out all the stops as in like jump on the trampoline inside for like, we're just trying to get all the energy out. So, um, she's currently a some other activity, but it's crank or two. So I'm here in bed doing what I like to do. Um, so you know, it's kind of like give and take with this last week of summer break. I do have a countdown on my phone. I have to admit. Good for you. I would kill the first day of school because it does make life a bit easier when it comes to working and scheduling. But otherwise, we're having a lot of fun. And I just love her being four. It's so much fun. Like I just, it's like crafting and like, she just dances and was like, makes puts on shows. And it's just fun, you know. Well, you say like her being four, but guess what happens very soon? What's that? She turns five. Oh, I know. Crazy. A friend last night was like, it was talking, we were like, her birthday dinner and she said to her other friend, like, oh, Christine has an almost five-year-old. And I went, don't say that. Slow down. Yeah, five is crazy. But my friend is, baby, is turning one on Lyona's birthday. They have the same birthday. Fun. And so she was like, well, she's almost one. And I was like, yeah, but like give me a few more minutes with four, you know, almost five is almost five is there's something about five that feels like such a milestone. Kindergarten, doesn't it? Yeah, it's like you're totally out of your baby ears. But Lyona has a calendar now. It's Hello Kitty theme for some reason. I don't, she loves it. It's just pink of purple and glittery. And she has, she's so excited for October because the first day is her birthday. The last day is Halloween. And she's like, and everything else is in between. And I was like, you get it. You fucking get it. And I love this. You did seemingly plan a be like to have a baby right at the beginning of spooky season. I manifested also her due date was October 1st. So I manifested that manifested. You were so punctual. What can I say? Well, this is the first time I'm punctual to much of anything. But she's pretty punctual, I guess. You can say good for her. Good for her. Um, well, why do you drink? Oh, why do I drink? Or did you give, I'm like, trying to remember in the maze of, I know we're lost already, but I don't remember where we were before this. I don't remember what either. She's probably were lost. I drink, I drink a little, a little black tea with some sugar. Nice. Yummy, yummy, sugar. Um, I got, is it a hot or ice? It's iced. Uh, I had to get it, get it from the bean today. So, um, oh, and I, oh, that, good ice, the good, good, bubble ice, yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm. And, uh, I really had a coffee bean. I really highlight the sugar in this because census and iced tea and it stayed, it began. It's never had a time for the sugar to melt in it when it was hot in the me come iced tea. So it's a lot of granules at the bottom and now I'm have to play the game where I like kind of go bobbing for apples with the straw, you know what I'm saying? I loathe that game, but then when I'm actually drinking it, I'm like, "Ooh, it comes with sugar." Lizzy, yeah. Like a horse. You know, like I hate this because I know I'll become kind of a horse in a moment, maybe why I hate it, because I'm like, "I'm about to have a good time." And I kind of wish I could control myself, but then I'm like, "Now I'm just drinking clumps of sugar." You know? I understand. No, but I do. I also get the horse experience. I'm like, "This isn't that bad. Now that I'm doing it." Like I get it. Until I run out of sugar and then I'm like, "Well, what is this drink you've been for?" Yeah. And then you're like, "What? Ew. Why?" I know. Just put a big sugar in my cup. Um, why I drink. I'm trying to think, I'm trying to think, "Well, there's a good reason I drink, Alison's parents are in town, and they are, I'm not allowed to know anything, so I can't give any details even if I wanted to, but as you all recall, we have a spookyzy in our house, or it's always been tentatively called the spookyzy, and we've made really no contributions to the decoration of the spookyzy, except for our secret passageway bookcase. Which, like, already speaks for its, I mean, what do you call that, the centerpiece? Like, what's the main attraction in a room, like the, well, the "Peace Day" resistance? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I know about the bookcase, I'm the one that put that in, so far, I know all of the way. Oh, we're doing it. I know the entrance of the room because of the bookcase, but I don't know anything past that. I've always had the door closed, and Alison had all these ideas, and I was like, I don't want to know a thing. I just want to be surprised when you figure out everything you want to do. And I guess her plans were very elaborate, and so, uh, mom and dad, the architects, uh, have stopped by across the country, and are, they're at Home Depot right now, and they're buying all sorts of wood, and I don't know what's going to happen there. Writing! Is someone filming a TikTok that I can watch, and then we can all watch her now? I wish. I love a home Renault. When every time Alison does something really creative, uh, in her personal free time, I'm like, you've got to be filming all this stuff, but she doesn't do it. I don't know what's-- She does their TikTok, though. They're awesome. She does it for her, her, for her woodworking business. Oh, but just for other stuff. For other stuff. Yeah. Like, she's decorating the whole room. I hope she's filming it. But I don't know. Also, she's so good at like, the editing too. I'm always like, how do you like hop on these trends and stuff? I don't know. She's a good one. Yeah. But I know there's a fireplace in there because I got the fireplace. It was actually originally for out here, but then we realized nothing makes it spookier than if you've got a nice little cobblestone fireplace, so certainly not. That's involved. And everywhere I look, there's just scraps of paper with like measurements and dimensions and like-- Whoa! You're so excited! I don't know what's-- What's going to happen to her. Pro pros, people like they're like, that's their whole bag, right? Yeah. And what's, yeah. Sidebar too. We're officially going to be starting our addition to the house soon, so-- It's exciting! Which they also designed. That was their-- Man, that-- I mean, I know that like, it seemed like a while, but that feels like it's going pretty good. Like, going quick. You've got a lot of work going on with the house. We've been hesitant about whether or not we should start the project. Right. So now, now we're deciding that we're just going to commit and-- Exciting. Get it going, so. Anyway, a lot of house stuff going on over here. But that's why I-- That's why I'm-- That's why I want to look at your astrology chart. I'm going to look at your astrology chart during the Appi Hour to see what the solar eclipse right now is hitting for you to see if it's-- Sure. It's Virgo season right now, right? And I'm part Virgo. Does that mean anything? Isn't it Leo season, my friend, still? Yeah. I don't know. And it's definitely still Leo season. Virgo and Leo will never know when it starts and ends. And I always football. Oh. Hello. Leo's in August. Think about it. The sun. They're just fucking-- When's Virgo? Oh, September. 9/11. Oh, fuck. That's how I do it. Sorry, Virgo. And I'll never forget it again. Do you know why? Three people in our-- in my close life, our Virgos and all the birthdays are on 9/11. So I'm like, well, sorry. That's how I'm going to remember it for now. Yeah. But I have an August Virgo in my life. So I always-- And that's where I get to totally-- I don't understand that. That parts to me, you're still kind of a Leo. So I don't get it. That's like, may jeopardize. I'm like, what are we doing? Get in June. Get over here. Please. I've never met you before. I don't understand that. Anyway. And yeah, probably because they avoid us on the street. But anyway. But yes, that'd be a great, yeah, be hours to look up what's going on. Let's look at your bird chart. I'm curious to see-- so yeah, we're not in Virgo season. Let's be very clear about that. We're in Leo season still, because Leo's are going to care about that actively. And Virgos are going to love that I said that they're just 9/11. Never forget. I'm learning more. I'm learning more. I will never forget. Yeah. I help. Okay. Want to tell me a story? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I actually don't want to tell you a story. Instead, I want to tell you some bullet points I got from an article I read. And I thought, oh, I'm just going to cover this. That's usually-- That's usually-- Okay. That's usually what's happening anyway. So-- Yeah, but usually I use many, many articles and all this stuff to create a story. This is no story. No story. No story. Oh, okay. Got you. Got you. I stumbled upon, in my free time, a listicle, and I went, well, I'm just going to breathe this listicle for-- I love it. So this is very easy. It's not a quickie, because after the one list school, I was like, well, let me see how many of these I can-- It sort of feels like-- It feels like early in that's why we drink vibes sometimes. Like-- Love that. Where we were like, what's interesting? You know? I'm very glad you said that, because I was worried that this was a silly thing to do. But today, my therapist said, oh, Jonestown, and I said, oh, that was my first ever podcast episode was on Jonestown. And then she was like, oh my god, I did a grad school project on Jonestown, and I was like, we're both really excited right now about Jonestown movie, maybe we need to change the tone. I saw a conversation. I still always think, what was it? It was never drinking the coolest. It was-- Like, I said, it was flavoring, and she said, and it was grape, and I was like, girl, no, you're-- No, you're on the therapist. You get me. You're on the same page. Listen, it takes two very abnormal people to understand one another. I think-- I've had that with-- yeah, a couple people. And the Jonestown thing is a good threshold test for that. So-- Absolutely. You passed on episode 1. You're a fresh lift. Yes. So I tried to never think about my liver before. For a variety of reasons, we can all guess. But recently, I've learned how much it does for us. It filters unwanted elements, supports digestion, helps with energy. And we usually don't think about it until something's wrong. But when dose became a sponsor, I was like, well, I need to look into this because I take this kind of stuff seriously. So I've been taking it for a while now, and I feel better. So I'm like, hell yeah, it works. It's clinically-backed liver health. It's a liquid supplement, so you can take it in a daily two-hour shot. And it tastes like fresh squeezed orange juice. That's very delicious. Awesome. I was very excited that turmeric was involved. She's a big turmeric relief. Yep. You're going to reduce sluggishness. You're going to get rid of those midday crashes. You're going to support your metabolism and even aid in your daily digestion. It has been awesome. Those has got real results. They did. This is my favorite part. They did two double-blind placebo-controlled studies showing that it has impact on liver enzyme levels. And I'm like, hell yeah. Why am I testing it? I'm amazed. It works. Ready to give your liver the support it deserves. Well, so this is, I don't even know how to title it, I'm just going to call it. This is a smattering of haunted fast food restaurants. Very silly. This is cool. You have quite a few to get through, but they're all very short. I think each of them are like a sentence or two because I'm sad as the kids say. Thank you. Well, as my mom says, this is going to get funky, so what happened today? I feel like I'm the one. Yeah. I don't know what's going on. I'm the one referencing TikToks and like. I know. I don't know what I got. Well, I got this. You have a phone-landered and all my life changed. It's really because my mom has a favorite type of restaurant she goes to, well, Alison's family is in town. We're going to a lot of restaurants and I've been saying, like, oh, I take my mom here when she's in town and because she loves to call things funky. If she really loves it and wants to go, it's a funky restaurant. Oh, because it's like, it's like hip and cool. Yeah. Well, that's her. Anything that looks like boutique and modern and it's playing like some sort of like weird like DJP music. Yes. Yes. And there's like a marquee light. Oh, my god. She loses her mind. Oh, marquee light. And so we went to home in Los Helios, which literally it says there's no place like home and home is written in marquee lights. Oh, I remember. Yeah. Back in 10 years ago, that was like the spot for a photo, a little photo op. And in the restaurant, there's a tree in the middle of the restaurant. It's super fun. It's very funky. And so anyway, it became this thing while the whole time Allison's families here every time we got like, we're gauging if the restaurant's funky. Like Linda approved. Oh, happy home is home still there. Yeah, we went yesterday. Oh, you okay. Okay. I didn't know how recent though. I fucking love that place. That's a great place. It was walking distance from your old place. Your old old place. Yes, it was. We used to go there all the time. Yeah. it was very good it was still very yummy um is alcove gone i feel like alcove must have closed i was on the same screen i don't i i probably because i haven't seen it in a while but now home has a side restaurant or like they expanded and it's a bar and it's called guest house oh cute oh my guest house i love that yeah it's funky so it's so funny and that alson's bob was trying to like get in on the funky joke but like i don't think she knew yet that it meant like yeah she was like this food tastes funky and i went okay well it smells funky in here yeah anyway so here we go this these are some fast food restaurants and again because they're not like hundred-year-old castles there's not a lot of history to these i'm really just giving you kind of bullet points like this listicle that's what i want okay that's what i want um do you have a favorite fast food restaurant while we're here i'm gonna have to make small talk with you because this is gonna go quick uh sure do let me think i well it's hard because i don't really um what do we usually order i love culverse sure like i love a cheese curd but then what did we order when we were oh sonic i love sonic oh i do love sonic we did a lot of sonic in our day i think sonic is like maybe my fave um i love talk about a tube but i know there's the the current Taylor Farms nonsense happening or whatever but yeah yeah i uh i love talk about i mean i'm surprised you didn't mention uh old reliable every morning fucking McDonald's breakfast on the road i think i'm traumatized about that maybe we probably had McDonald's breakfast 300 times together on this on our fucking portion literally like i can't imagine that would ever be my favorite right now in this time of my life maybe when i'm 80 and i forgot about it i'm like um that sounds good there were days but there were times when we were on the road and and i'd be like karsik and eva be karsik and hungover and i'd be hung i literally like in the drive three we haven't even ordered yet and we're groaning about how we don't want to fucking eat this and we're like we don't eat it we don't want to go to where we're going we don't want to be alive but there's nothing else open and we gotta get to the airport and basically three siblings in the car um eva's the middle child trying to make everybody happy gorgeous like uh the only exciting time was the Canadian mick pulae incident oh yes uh we were at the border and eva picked up a chicken nugget she just said i just kept saying every this a chicken nugget and we were all that's right we kept saying mick pulae and so she finally picked up a chicken nugget to get in on the joke and she was driving us through a Canadian border she turns around she goes is this a chicken nugget and we all kind of like pause and we were like yes she was trying to say is this a mick pulae but she just said is this a chicken nugget and we were like are you okay what what happened here yeah there there was not um there needed to be more crossover understanding i think because i really i i was so jazzed to try and like donalds in another location and they had mick pulae's mick chickens and but it was in french so uh every time there was chicken we said mick pulae she was not really grasped we get right away she got there she just she just said it wrong is this a chicken nugget we were all like yeah that's literally a chicken yeah and she's like that's not what i was even trying to yeah it was very silly um but so i do i like a mick donalds every now i love a snack wrap but like i'm really trying not to eat meat anymore like kind of makes my tummy and i just not into it really try not to eat meat anymore so like chicken just is not it anymore for me so i like i've kind of moved away from McDonald's there's not much there that's like like at least i talk about and stuff you can get like potatoes beans cheese you know walk stuff that's like not meat uh yeah i talk about you gotta be and see a bacon and cheese burrito or bacon sorry bean and cheese burrito yes exactly like bean and rice cheese yeah good stuff or a bunch of wrap with like potatoes oh my god my old boss Renee was obsessed with the bnc's every every chance she could get she would she would have a bnc in her in her purse i think okay but not me too that does sound relatable yeah she was a she was a hoot what it came to talk about um okay mick donalds there's four different locations we're going to talk about i lied there's three one i think is going to be next week's story because it felt like there was a little more pun intended made to this so hey so the three that i'm going to talk about there's one in quero Texas and uh it used to be a gas station when it was a gas station two deaths happened here there was a little boy i'm so sorry everybody that was i'm so sorry everybody accidentally ran over by his mom i'm so sorry everybody oh my god it was in the 60s and i think he just got in he was either in front of the car behind the car and she didn't know just lost sight of him for a second the second death was um when it was a gas station i guess they also had the mechanical car lifts so they could lift the car up and maybe do some under under the car stuff and a mechanic who worked there oh no accidentally got crushed by one of the lifts and this is weird but i guess in that same 24 hour period the cops were actually looking for him to arrest him because allegedly he killed his own six year old daughter what is going on a lot of children stuff oh yeah i don't love that so at this one location before was the mcdonalds two little kids were somehow tragically killed or involved in somehow died and yes tragic circumstance seems like so now this mcdonalds is apparently very haunted one of the main things that happens is the toilets flush themselves which i guess if you're a kid stuck on the sucking property you're gonna keep just flush and toilets are doing something silly see what goes down see what floats and uh also the walk in fridges turn themselves off from the inside oh i don't like that i don't like that at all and you have to go in and look oh no no i really don't like when the fridge uh turns off and then all of a sudden i can't have my food because now it's all that's gonna say that it's suddenly all bad yeah that's not good either that has to be such a logistical nightmare for the manager um agreed then also just general weird sounds is what happens there and that's the end of that mcdonalds that's how quick this is gonna go i love this so but i thought i've never covered this so i ought to do it so this mcdonalds is in i i de bel ok ok and no you de bel i know um there's a little girl who is seen going into the men's bathroom before opening hours i guess multiple times uh it's always around five a.m and a little girl is always seen going in there and not coming out which is seary yeah it's strange she's also blamed for the toilets flushing them aselves all at once very weird that's happening at two mcdonalds all at once is weird yes she didn't have enough hands for that how do you do that i don't like that that feels also very moaning mortal yeah well i guess we just gave her an nickname but that's also that's just in the women's bathroom so she's seen going into the men's bathroom but in the women's bathroom all at once flushed themselves i mean but like you said maybe there's just multiple people doing this prank or whatever because if there's how many corporeal i mean i don't know i guess it as a ghost you can maybe just not you can just get touch four things at once i don't know and you know what's crazy is the fact that we still think well they must be physically touching the handles like they must right to numb i'm like that's probably not even how that works mentally just go okay everyone flush and they just just not mentally just or a psychicly yeah or a sometimes i feel like that happens when i'm in a public bathroom and it flushes for no fucking reason when i'm still sitting on it and i'm like oh and then you feel the weird wet breeze hit your butt oh get oh my god and you're like now i've never been dirty or my life i'm just saying they're going i am in this moment i'm just saying they're like i need like make it stop make it stop and i don't know if you recall or evil would recall but when i was on the road i really have a problem with public restrooms but sometimes you gotta go and so everywhere we went i carried a little lice all spray and like wet wipes and stuff and i was like this so it's gonna be as clean as if possibly can't before i'm sitting down if i have to sit on it wow and uh then all of a sudden that weird like backwash toilet spray would hit me in the button like this as hell this is like the exact opposite of everything i just prepped anywhere you just have to lice all your butt now sorry i have i have to it happens um it happens also the restaurant will sometimes feel very cold i don't know where the employees say that the computer will turn itself on after they've turned it off for the night um and in the women's bathroom they hear a lot of laughter when the store is closing so there's just plain neopets in there on that computer just giggle in yeah um another McDonald's in Vancouver this one really gets me going and i like this one this is probably where we got that fucking mikpoula i'm saying it like that on purpose i'm sorry the mikpoula mikpoula the mikpoula where even so is this a chicken nugget that may have been perfect because we were in Vancouver so it could be well you're gonna see in a second why that why it what if we went to this McDonald's it's on it that's cool you're saying a lot we probably didn't hang on hang on a second okay like how many are there in Vancouver only one right well yeah so this McDonald's was only open free year in 1986. Okay so like it could have been and it was they opened it for Vancouver's expo expo 86 which I think it's funny because 86 is like a dining slang right like 86 the food. I think I thought you did oh is that a dining thing I thought it was just you 86 something means you get rid of it I didn't know is dining dining related oh yeah it's a it's in diners that you with like 86 of me all that's where it came from I think oh okay bin big on diner lingo in the middle of this so do you know what uh uh well what's yeah what oh we'll do it's already yappy hour do you know the line from Emperors New Groove where he does like the I don't know what you're talking about two two yeah I just watched that movie again recently I watch it in times of high stress and I've watched a lot recently I'm like trying to memorize that little like two slinger whatever whatever yeah anyway I forget what the phrase for eggs is I think but I think it's Jack and Jill on a raft and Reckham which means uh scrambled eggs on toast like I love this this is like peak content thank you I look I'm not kidding I really do have a list that like when I'm bored I just memorize like a new one when I promise you I believe you so maybe for yappy hour we'll do a birth chart thing and I'll read some of my diner that thing goes and we'll make you guess what they are uh fun that's fun that's fun that's fun so the uh this oh I'm so stupid Expo 86 it's because it was 1986 I'm literally such a super person well I knew that I didn't understand why you were worse but I'm so perplex oh okay I really just wanted to make leaps and bounds I guess so for this Expo McDonald spent nine million dollars on essentially a bail ship and try to turn it into a floating McDonald's oh that's what we're doing and it got the nickname the McBarge which is a hysterical yeah not a good name but no you know what it is when you hear it and within that same year it closed the whole point was for it to be like this big floating restaurant in the ocean and which I have seen that work as in lakes and rivers sometimes people have a floating hot dot yeah that's a ten out of ten uh those just think of the hooters and newport which has them the boating the boat dock that just closed oh I don't know about that you do I would just use it we'd use the hooters dock to get on the boat fun and they closed I have thought about just like leaving this life behind and opening a hot dog cart on the river that it feels like he probably makes millions especially fourth of July weekend forget it yeah I think that would be like where we'd find you you know if like everything went topsy-turvy and like in the in the zombie apocalypse version of this story we would eventually find you like selling hot dogs I think so and I'm not offended by that at all that feels like that feels right I'll like yeah and you'd be a multi-millionaire probably imagine you have a little tugboat on the lake and you just sell ice cream you came to me how do you not make money from that yeah you'd be and then you just hire someone to sell it for you so you can just oh okay I nice came from your own business and just watch the watch the world go by zipper critter dot american dream okay so it only lasted a year it eventually capsized last year which that's the slowest sinking of a mick barge I've ever heard of you mean like it was just slowly thinking or it just finally literally closed in 1986 and just sat there and then capsized in sank but I guess before it capsized there was like a good 20 years where you could just somehow get on it and go look around and explore I mean it was abandoned and so it wasn't actually haunted but it looked like it should be haunted I I want to go on that yeah well now you cannot it is she's gone but she's scuba diving the fourth location is what I'm gonna talk about next week so I'm not gonna say anything about that yet but now we're on to pizza hut oh thank god pizza hut there's one in New York in center reach New York apparently they've actually had investigators go into this pizza hut which must have been the most fun investigation in the entire world seriously the team did get footage of a spirit in the women's bathroom and but other than that well one of the reasons I went into the bathrooms was because before this was a pizza hut it was a jack in the box and a man died in there in the bathroom when it was a jack in the box so that's why they were looking in the bathrooms people here whispering in the stalls horrifying people here pots and pans throw themselves off the shelves they feel cold spots and this was a funny quote I got from I think Huffington Post it said google maps says that the location is closed but Huff Post successfully got a pizza hut employee on the phone when calling their delivery line that said Huff Post may have been talking to a Huff Ghost oh I was like well that's clever now that's worth reading okay so and I did so this is another pizza hut this is in Glendale Arizona and people here crying babies they hear children's voices the faucets go on and off by themselves a little girl has seen playing under the tables it seems like it's a portal rather than like an incident happened or did an incident happen I do think it's interesting that most things are happening in the bathroom where there's several mirrors oh mirrors I didn't even think of that I was like toilets could be portals I guess and he sort of sewer lines or I don't know but but yeah that makes sense to the mirrors oh and then people in there doing like who knows what you know at public in public bathrooms like spraying their own butts with lice all and sickos like that it could be anything it could be anything I shiver it that thought I shiver when the lice all hits my tushy yeah I go oh yeah same ditto oh my god items fly off the shelves and this has been witnessed by multiple employees this isn't just one person talking about it this is across the board former employees have said that place is fucking haunted and one of them actually thought that the building used to be a mortuary before it was a pizza hut which is crazy yeah I mean that would make sense too if if it wasn't a portal it's either a portal or her mortuary and that's it yeah okay so that's it for pizza hut now we're on to Burger King there's only one Burger King that I'm talking about and it's in a West Palm Beach oh there was a janitor who twice saw the apparition of a man who it was such a full-bodied apparition he didn't even think it he thought it was a living person yeah and he saw a man after closing trying to steal money from Burger King and he like robbing the place I guess so yeah it's it's stealing stealing money it could have just been his money like trying to pick pocket him or something I'm not too sure but well robbing someone robbing someone so they he saw this young man trying to steal money in the restaurant and then tried to chase him out of the building but before he could get him out of the building the man would vanish and this happened twice to the same janitor oh my god and he's like this time yeah I was like you again come on the second time it feels personal it doesn't what's gonna happen the third time he's not gonna chase him right well after the second time he quit so I guess there was no third time he quit he was like fuck this I'm getting robbed by a ghost I mean I don't blame him you're right I 100 percent don't blame him I kind of I would stick around a third time be like well he's gonna come back and I'm not gonna chase him I just want to see what he does I would maybe quit and then just come back for lunch and see if I showed up again you know like I'd be like I'll just come back to like observe good point all right at least put like suggest a security camera gets put up you know in 1999 the director of operations was asked if this place was haunted and said if I had to guess I would say that the kitchen is inhabited by a spirit that cannot pass to the other side until everyone in Palm Beach County stops by the store to buy a whopper value meal okay yuck promotion I mean okay guy you could have just said no I don't think it's haunted or yes come see our ghost he had to use the opportunity and you know that speaking of promotions this is not this Burger King I think it was across all all Burger Kings in 2022 for Halloween they came up with such a good promotion I'm very I think it was so good um they have like a Burger King app and in the app to promote their ghost pepper whopper they put an EMF detector in their app for you to go ghost hunting while you eat their ghost pepper Walker no that's a clever little idea that was I was like now that's genius no we're talking I never thought I'd download a fast food app yeah but I I think I'm going to have the Chipotle app and the McDonald's app who am I kidding oh I've always wanted one of those Chipotle black cards you know about those I don't even know no they have like a like a VIP thing kind of well so it's a um I don't know I've heard about different cards is like a Chipotle black card a Chipotle celebrity card there's a Chipotle lifetime card they might all be the same card with different names I don't want that you want that I loved Chipotle I know so do I but it sounds depressing well apparently they only only like a hundred have been given out ever and those people you get like literally a lifetime of free burritos why would those people are already probably billionaires so it's like who cares that hurts my feelings like they I wonder I want a free burrito let's let's let's yeah people who a lot of people want a free burrito you know I think actually I'd argue everyone wants a free burrito I don't know I I would like the opportunity to have a free burrito every single day I wouldn't use it like that but I'd like to say I have um but then a pair - Apparently there was one guy who used it like crazy when he got, when he found out he had freech pulley for life. He was like, "Everyone come to Chipotle blah blah blah, and he bought all these, all like so much Chipotle, but he didn't realize that the stipulation was like, it's the price on that card is like the equivalent of a burrito a day." And he accidentally maxed out his lifetime card in like a year. And I'm like, "Whoopsies." - People like, "Come on, like how much?" You can't, you're, you're really leaning, like you're leaning into it so far that it's gonna become, you're gonna type cast yourself as like that Chipotle guy, you know? - True. - He already has. - He already has, but I still, you know, I just want a lifetime card to something, damn. - You just want a lifetime card. - I know, you want a lifetime. I went time one, a lifetime supply of Jimmy Neuchon bubble gum, which was pretty cool. But then they sent it all at once. - You're saying this 10 years in? Are you fucking kidding me? - I've absolutely talked about this on the podcast. - Tell me again. - I'll tell you again. The year was 2001. - Uh-huh. - I had discovered the magic of online sweepstakes. I won them all the time. Actually, I'm just in realizing this today because I was just talking to my childhood friend about how much shit we manifested because we didn't, we would call it hexing. And we didn't under, like we were just like it works. Like we would like hex people to have crushes back on. But it would always, like it would often misfire. But we were like, we would manifest like snow days, weather, like we would manifest it constantly. And we would do like little spells and rituals. And now I'm like, oh, we were just actively doing witchcraft all the time, which makes sense. But so Selene and I were like doing all these things and I just started winning all these sweepstakes 'cause I was like, I would like to, I want to win them and I would just start winning them. And I won a signed jump five CD. I won a pogo stick, a lifetime supply of Jimmy Neutron, Bubblegum, that one was the most random. And then I wouldn't share it with anyone. Like they sent it all at once and I didn't share a single piece and then like we had to throw it all away 'cause it was like, how, what was I gonna do? Eat a year, or a lifetime, no, it was a year supply. Sorry, that's crazy. It was a year supply, not a lifetime supply. But still, they sent it all at once. So I got 12 months worth of Jimmy Neutron bubblegum like in boxes shipped to my house. I have to look up what it looks like. What was like, the brand was like bubblegum. It was like Nickelodeon, I think. Nickelodeon and it was in a Nickelodeon magazine. Jimmy Neutron, I'm quite confident. Oh my God, I, there's only a picture of him floating in gum. Oh my God. And it was like, and it was that terrible fruit. I remember it's, 'cause I started eating a lot of it. It's fruit chunks? No, it wasn't fruit chunks. Or I don't think so. It was like, it was a bubblegum. So how? So this, I'll find a picture. Favorite fact about you. I will. I guess I just never thought about it because I was like, I guess I was the only one entering these things. I don't know. But like, I would win them. Oh, and then I won a telescope lens. But that was also the day that I accident. Oh, I won a TV. But then one day when I was doing it, when I won the telescope lens, it was out of science. No, no, like an astronomy convention. And I, there was this bright light and I was being like annoying. And I was a projector light and I walked in front of it and I was trying to like make my friend laugh. And so I was like, oh, and I like stumbled backwards. And suddenly this old man starts screaming. And I'm like, what about, have I killed him? No. I bumped his display of his microscopic moon rock. Oh my God. And it fell. Oh my God. Microscopic. And it was under a microscope. Like people were like lining up to look into it. I knocked it off the thing. I would never go. I would, I would everyone started gathering around. He was freaking out, freaking out. And my friend's dad was like, well, if we get a magnet and the guy's like, they're all magnetic. Because he had fallen on these other like rocks. And we were like, her dad was like, we're going to go. And so that was the day I never got my telescope lens. Because we had to leave early. Because of the microscope at moon rock. As an adult, I would also be so mad at it. I like it. I felt terrible. I still feel terrible. I literally, he was like, my life's work. Like he was losing it. And I was like, I got to go. Oh no. Oh my God. Oh my God. I've won a lot of random things. But again, they misfire a lot. So. But okay. As someone who has worked in Nickelodeon studios in Burbank, California, which I manifested also. Yeah. Insane. The ultimate sweepstakes that you could have won for me. I know. And then I was like, okay, I'm leaving. There has to be the person. There has to be a person that that was in charge of sweepstakes and kept picking your fucking name and going like, this goddamn kid again, they were all different sources. I have one where I would go kids sweepstakes.com, which literally is how I probably would have gotten kidnapped. And then I would type in like kids sweepstakes and just like scroll and find like 17 magazine is doing a sweepstakes, you know, and I'd like enter that. The lip smackers always had really good sweepstakes. I think they just wanted all of our information right as right when young age of 10. I was already giving everyone selling my data. Wow. It's a big brother, you know, and I, and here I am, I don't even know how we got here. I'm so proud of it. So you never mentioned that Jimmy Neutron thing to me or I would have, I really can't believe it. Yeah. Is this new to everybody? I'm shocked if it's new to everybody, but maybe, maybe, maybe it just got old, maybe so in my life. She's sandy or something. 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And the owners were a husband and wife and on a Friday the 13th, they ended up getting in a nasty crash and died. No, no. Now that it's a subway, people see a woman who they think is the wife of that store. Standing behind the register, looking really mad, apparently not smelling very good. I don't know what that means. Jeez. But apparently she still calls employees names when they're alone. People have seen items through themselves off the shelves. Beapers will go off for no reason. And the sandwiches that gets that are still sitting on the counter, cut themselves. Okay. Yuck, a ghost is such my sandwich, but also I would like to see that. But did they touch it? Or did they use a knife? And if they used a knife, now a ghost is a knife. And if a ghost doesn't have a knife, then what did they do? Like, like, their psychically powers again? They're aura powers, you know? I don't know. You're really on top of that. Quantum powers? It's like sandwich. Slice sandwich, you know? I don't know. Maybe exact same thought of like, why are we holding serrated knives as guns? It's a knife. Right. Where's the knife? Is it? Or are we manifesting the serial knife? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know about all of this, frankly. But I do get it. Like, if you were one day or working in your Harley-Davidson shops, you know, you don't necessarily know you've died or whatever happens in these scenarios. And then suddenly you're like, what the hell is going on? It smells like a subway and a sandwich shop in here. This is my Harley-Davidson story. Like, that would be so demoralizing. And it'd be pissed that I'm still working. It's not even my company. And they're my business anymore. And I'm still somehow employed. I'm still stuck here. Yeah. And like, no wonder it smells bad. I mean, you're in a subway. I don't know that like-- Good smell like that. Maybe they just say she smells bad to like cover up for the rest of the subway smells. No offense. Just like the deli meat sitting out all day. She's just a lot of meats and cheeses and stuff. There's also a subway in Ireland that certainly deserves more time than what I'm about to give it. But I did. The article was really one-sense long. And I was like, this cannot possibly be the whole story. But the store manager swears. This is a quote. The building is from the 1600s and we the staff believe that there's a ghost on the third floor. Apparently, it's so haunted that the staff has literally put a sign up in the window that says, "Wege of words and sances are not allowed to be performed in this shop. Haunt your own house." Haunt your own house. This is our house. This subway is our house. I just love it. Like, it must be bad for you to even say that. And we just gloss right over it. Stop. I feel like, well, okay. I was going to say, well, they're not the ones haunting it. But I guess you are. Because if you're bringing a Wege of word in there, you're wriling it up, creating more of a haunting than there was before you brought a Wege of word in. 100%. Okay, so now we've got RB's. This is in Colorado Springs, Colorado. In the 1990s, apparently the manager there fired someone and in retaliation, she shot him. Oh my God. Whoopsies. That's not good. Um, apparently now late at night, you can still hear the arguing in the parking lot. Oh, geez. Also, there are whispers in the lobby when the place is empty and they're closing up. Items, of course, movie on their own. A woman is seen walking through the kitchen and out the back door, end quote. So I assume that's like right before the shooting happened. Uh, people who are opening the store have heard their names called and they also will find chairs strewn about, um, that you would think like, oh, the people who closed us night should have put the chairs up. Why are their chairs everywhere? And the closers will say we put the chairs up so they move themselves in the middle of the night. I hate that. Or did they just reappear? That's why I'm so freaked out by that. Like does the camera cut out when that happens or does it show the moving or do they just appear? Oh my God. Um, in Hawaii, there's a Starbucks that, uh, apparently when they play music and night while they're closing, uh, every single night at exactly 10.51 PM, the music will cut itself off 10.51 PM every single night. It doesn't, it doesn't matter if they try a different song or anything, the music just always stops at that time. Damn. If you said it's almost 11, get the fuck out. Um, there's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like let's just cut to the chase. Please wrap it up. There's also a ghost that one employee swore that they'd seen for like a year. Like every time they're on their shift, there was this random other person that was always wearing khakis. They were very tall. And they did not know who this person was. They were like, they just thought it was like some awkward coworker they never spoke to just some awkward coworker. And, right. But I guess they knew that like nobody else was seeing this fucking person. So they were like, I swear I'm seeing this ghost walk by every now and then I swear like, like they're probably saying like, who's the guy in the khakis and everyone's like, we don't know and you're like the guy in the khakis. Yeah. Oh, that's horrible. It's like so gaslighting. Eventually another employee started seeing the same apparition. Oh, it's always a matter of time. And when the two of those employees got together and finally started talking about it and saying I've seen him too, the computer system went fucking crazy. Like a start like everything started glitching in the restaurant. As I'm like, don't fucking talk to me. Um, or like you've seen me. You know too much. Yeah. I've seen you. So there is a Domino's pizza in Boyton Beach, Florida, where I guess if you're a brunette, the ghost does not care for you, and I'll throw shit at you. But if you're a blonde, it'll like stroke your hair. Awesome. If you're a redhead, I don't fucking know. And if you're bald, just get out of there. Just stay away. Go to Burger King instead. There's a Papa John's and see more Indiana where apparently people see the ghost of a man wearing a blue uniform. And you also hear knocking on the walls as if it's coming from the business next door, but that business is vacant. Yeah. Empty building. Yuck. There's a dairy queen in San Anthony, Minnesota where you hear children laughing again. Things are falling off to the shelves again. Your name gets called out again. And the POS system, this is the creepiest one of the steric queen. The POS system will print out orders that nobody's put in. Now that's annoying. That would really suck. I feel like as it goes, I'd be like, I don't know how to make this clearer to you, but I need you to make me a fucking ice cream right now. I'm stuck in dairy queen. Please make me this exact Sunday. And no one's paying attention. They're just throwing it in the trash. Yes. Uh, yes. It's like how hard is it to get? Trying to think of what, what are, where are we? Dairy queen. They do the blizzards. The blizzard. Yeah. Oh, God. I fucking love a blizzard. So good. You know what they have there? They make a mean hot fudge. You put that hot fudge on anything that they sell. You're gonna have. It is so good. Oh, like a ganache. Oh, God, dang it. Dairy queen, are you listening? Uh, I knew my mom and I were cut from the same cloth when every Friday she would let me go to dairy queen. And we would make the same sounds while we ate dairy queen. We just, we both just go, Oh, just like mimic each other. Yeah. Oh, many me. Um, okay. So now we've got two more places we've got the combination KFC Taco Bell Pizza Hut, of course. And of course that's on it in Coronado, California. Um, I guess there was like something broken in their restaurant. So they had a team come out and do repairs. But while they were there, someone said, I thought we were the only ones left in the, in the restaurant who just went to the fridge. Someone just went to the fridge. What is with the, oh, because of people working there, former employees and stuff. And so the other employees were like, there's nobody here, nobody went into that fridge. And the guy was like, I swear, I saw someone. So they go and look in the walk in fridge and nobody's there. But it's been totally ransacked. There's just shit all over the floors, which is just, it's one thing for like a ghost to be haunting the area. But to make it worse for everybody is just so annoying. Like, it sounds like either like a, well, no, because why would it? That's so weird. I wonder why. Yeah. Maybe like, uh, disgruntled former employee. It sounds like or something. I guess so. I mean, I guess at least this one's not like shooting the manager. Damn. Right. Right. Right. Right. But if I worked somewhere and items were being thrown off the shelves all the time, I'd be so twitchy having to like duck all the time. Yes. Okay. I'm knowing. Also, they ended up reporting this to the restaurant later and saying, just so you know, we didn't destroy your fridge. We swear we saw someone walk in there. We thought we were alone. And the restaurant later said, oh, yeah, our employees have been seeing someone walk in and out of that thing for the last 10 years. And it always vanishes before they can find them. Well, I wonder how long it took before the managers, like believe the employees weren't actually creating a huge mess all the time. Because it's like, how would you know whether that's just like one employee that you can't figure out? Or if it's like actually a ghost, I don't know. And I wonder if it ransacks the place every time or like, it's almost like the sick game where you have to catch him just before he runs things. Otherwise, you have to stay late and clean. Oh god. So annoying. Yeah. It's just untannable. I feel like in this whole episode, I just keep saying so annoying. But like, I really can't imagine. It just would be awful. I just don't want to do it. I don't want to clean any more than I have to at a Taco Bell. Don't make me. Speaking of Taco Bell, that's our last place. There's a Taco Bell in Worcester, Ohio. Yeah. Go Worcester. Do you okay? So you can go there if you'd like to experience a ghost. There's a college there. And I just made a guy from there. Fun fact. Cool. Are you going to go on a date or what? No, I was at a solar Clipster treat. And he was like, I'm from Worcester, Ohio. And I was like, sick. That's boring. That was the extent of the conversation. But I was like, sick. I'm from Ohio too. That's nice. That was bad. That was like, Oh, yeah, I forgot about Worcester. Actually, someone from Sarah from our grad program went to Worcester, went to college. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Fun fact. I didn't, I, I'm saying, Oh, yeah, to like Sarah. I was like, Oh, I haven't thought about Sarah in a long time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She went there. Okay. Taco Bell, Worcester, Ohio. The employees there get grabbed by something. Okay. Not good. Not good. Start. The apparently, when they're closing, they'll hear creepy music at night playing and they can't figure out where it's coming from. I prefer the turning the music off. Yep. Yeah. Please turn it off. Yeah. At 10.51 PM, please don't make it worse music. The location, this is like absolutely just like probably a rumor. But they say like it was once a mental hospital. And I'm like, Taco Bell was once a month. That's not a very big mental hospital. It a Taco Bell remains a mental hospital. We can all agree. I feel like sometimes I feel like I should be put in a mental hospital. But instead, I self heal by going to Taco Bell. So this is a full circle. It gets really beautiful, actually. Nearby is also a haunted pizza hut. So I don't know if it's a Taco Bell pizza hut combo situation, or if they're just really only right next to each other as separate entities. But here people, I was going to say, let's imagine that I was like, actually, they would probably, we'd probably get some legal trouble. So maybe let's not. They're too powerful. But you can hear doors open and close, even though all the doors have been removed from this place. There's no more like, like, you know, it's an open space. That's weird. It's a Taco Bell. Yeah. You shouldn't hear doors slamming. That's really weird. That would be like so uncanny valley. You'd be like, what the hell? You'd be like, why did I feel weird about a door slamming? Then you'd be like, wait a minute, there's no doors in here. There's also apparitions that walk through the walls. And one manager even saw, they heard something behind them turned around. There was like a thick mist floating in the air and then vanished before their very eyes. But that's scary because it's like, how often is that thing behind me? Right. I'd be like, constantly looking over my shoulder after that. And why only now did it make a sound or does it never make a sound? And I just happened to hear the sound of something else and caught it this time. Hey, that's so much worse. Oh, no. And then all of a sudden, it's standing there like, during the headlights, because you caught it. Oh, no. Yuck. The main Taco Bell, I'm going to talk about, or this is the final thing I'm talking about, is in Twinsburg, Ohio. Have you heard about Twinsburg? I have, but I don't really know where it is. Sorry. So this is literally listed as the most haunted place in Twinsburg, Ohio. It is this Taco Bell. What? I love that. And this Taco Bell has been nicknamed the most haunted, the most haunted Taco Bell that there is is the one in Twinsburg, Ohio. Really? Wow. So they're really nailing it. So it's next to an old cemetery. So a lot of people say, what's up in Cleveland? Yeah. Too far away. it's next to an old cemetery so people say that this is where it was actually a part of a burial ground before the land got reclaimed or whatever. But people see apparitions in the kitchen. They'll disappear or in vanish if you look at them for too long or if you recognize them or acknowledge them at all. Apparently there's four ghosts that people see. There's like a mountain man that people see. Whoa! He's standing in the drive-through window which is can you imagine if you're just trying to order something? Like in the car side or on the employee side? I think the employee side so you drive up and you think you're getting your food and it's just a random lumberjack there. Because at first I was thinking like you go to the window as the employee and like you open and there's that guy standing there and that's also scary but like they probably see way weirder shit on the other side of that drive-through window so yeah to see it inside would be terrifying. There's a comedian that Allison's a big fan of Amber Autrey. She's been on tech talk and we went to go see her last week and she had a bit about how she used to work in McDonald's and one time she brought a life-size Barbie in and put it at the drive-through window and she was like people didn't even notice they just go I love your eyes. Like they wouldn't even notice. Oh no. Oh no. I would prefer a life-size Barbie over a no I'd prefer a mountain man over a life-size Barbie that'd be even. Yeah I'm I've never been okay with a life-size Barbie. The first sleepover I ever went to that she had a life-size Barbie and I didn't sleep the entire night so it was like that thing is gonna move. The shadow is really and the eyes are so creepy in the night. Like they're just like humongous. Even if you turn a life-size Barbie around a face the corner it's somehow even worse now. It's that's exactly right because I'm like I'll wake I'll wake up and she'll be turned back around and I know it. There's no doubt in my fucking mind. Yeah. Part of me would say like just like tuck her under the bed so like you don't even have to look at her but then I'd be terrified on like something's gonna like hit the bed. And then you can never pee. No you know. She'll get your ankles. Grab your ankles. I don't think so. And you can't put her in the closet because you know she's just standing there waiting for you. Yeah the mom of the girl I was seeing seeing that day or sleeping over at she put it in the closet and I was still like I don't think that's gonna do it for me dog. I think I'm gonna stay. The head's gonna have to wake. The head's gonna have to be buried in the yard first. And I think also I'll never be the same sorry. Tell my mom this was a terrible idea and she never should have let me head out of the sleep over. Oh it's three. Who's having slippers at three? That's a Tuffy. That's a Tuffy. Oh my god. That fucking Barbie scared me so much. There's the mountain man at the drive-through window. People also see a military vet but I don't know what he's up to. People just see him. They also see a girl in a white night gown. Love that there's a woman in white still. Sure. She sits at the corner in the dining room at night. I think it's actually a little girl. So she sits at the corner. It's almost as if she's like sitting there while her mom's working a shift or something. There's also a teenage guy that apparently he's in an old school employee outfit. He does not blend in with everybody else. He's in like an older outfit and he still helps clean but there was one time that a guy went up to him and asked for extra hot sauce and the teenager was unresponsive didn't seem to hear him. And the customer was like who the hell is this guy and nobody else saw him there. Yeah, horrifying. And then people and then people see shadow figures in the halls and then the kitchen and the back area and all that so. Anyway, shadow figures and like at work at work really. Yeah, no thank you. Please give me a fucking break. Anyway, that is all the haunted fast food restaurants that I could find. Which I have already decided I think that the whispering and the shadow figures might be my least favorite. The whispering happened everywhere which was super. I think what's eerie to me is how many places had a combination of toilets flushing people getting their names called out whispering and items lying off the shelf. It seemed to happen at every single location. It does seem to happen when I go to any fast food restaurant. People are calling names whispering things are flying around. So I don't know, I guess it's a good place for ghost to fit in, you know. If you had to haunt a restaurant, which one are you haunting? Cheesecake Factory. Good one. I have no idea a fancy one probably. I want to just see what's going on. Nice. That's a good one. You know, I want to see like the fights and the proposals and the and the nasty bears. The mean people who like are paying for expensive steaks. Oh, I want to people wearing bibs like who are nasty to the staff. I'm going to like have I'm going to have so much fun ruining their day. You know what I mean? Yeah. I agree. Like I'm going to get in their Lexus and drive home with them and then just be like, I'm going to like, I'm going to like throw stuff around. You know, be a really fun. I'll come up with a better plan. You'd be a really funny one to haunt is like dirty dicks in Florida. Oh, yeah. Rainforest cafe. Now that's good. But you'd get so over it, wouldn't you? I guess so. But that first day would be great. Yeah, it would be fun. And you have like ever revolving clientele. So that's true. And you could ride the lions? You could like ride a lazy river sort of don't get me started. Yeah, that's a good idea. Actually, I'm with the sounds. It's just so loud you'd need like to turn the volume down if you can do that as a ghost, which I assume you can. Yeah. I mean, if you can cut sandwiches with a knife kind of then flush all the toilets, you can definitely make it quieter. Then what the fuck? You're totally right. I just make it a thunderstorm all the time instead of once every 30 minutes. Oh, wait, that's right. You can then control it. So yeah, we'll just turn down the volume. Yeah, we can do that. It's called ghost powers. And then we can just have a little brainstorm. I love that. You know, it'd be really creepy, though, is you know, in the shop, they always have what's your name like Tracy tree, the tree that's always talking. I hate that thing. I hate it. In the middle on plot. In the middle, that I was like everything silent. And then she just turns on starts talking. It has to be when one employees left cleaning. And then, and then we'll do it like, oh, by the way, we're both there now. And then we'll do it. And then like, they'll be like, guys, this crazy thing happened, but then it'll happen to no one else. Yeah, and then we'll do it one more time to that guy. And then I swear to God. And then we'll just do it to like, well, maybe the girl he has a crush on or something, you know, and then we'll just like, we'll be just like, I make so much fun. And we'll make it say things that it is not program to say. Totally. We'll say, Lacey has a crush on you too. That's funny because I was thinking something more sinister, like boo, like, ah, oh God. Well, yeah, that is that is way. Or like just evil cackel. No one would believe you. Well, yeah. Well, no one would believe you if it said Lacey also has a crush on you. It'd be like, yeah, bro, whatever. The talking tree told you that Lacey has a crush on you. It's like, no, it literally did. Imagine it got so popular that then like actual like paranormal enthusiasts started gathering and like trying to like book investigations there. And everyone just doing a say on surround a tree, a fake tree. Not a real tree, like an animatronic tree. That's like really, I mean, it would be the creepiest black and white footage like night night camera vision. Absolutely. It's all her eyes just going back and forth. Oh, it's not. And they blink. It's like stop that. I will say I just bought a bumper sticker from the reinforced cafe store that says, I break for animatronic wildlife. Love her. Now that's really. I wish I would have absolutely bought that if I'd seen that sticker. Okay. 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And I was able to use them to cancel it for me. And it was amazing. It was like my my hero, my superhero. I really feel like it has made me feel just so at ease knowing that like there isn't any behind the scenes payments that I don't know about anymore. Yes. So true. Rocket money is a personal finance app that helps find and cancel on one of subscriptions monitors. You're spending and helps lower your bills so you can grow your savings. So let rocket money help you reach your financial goals faster. Join at rocket money.com/drink. That's rocket money.com/drink. Rocket money.com/drink. Hello, hello. I'm back here for part two of our story. The University of Idaho murders. If you have not listened to part one, you really got to because all of the details of the crime itself and the discovery and so on. And the description of all the people in everything involved in the story. Just the whole first office story. You just got to know. I know you're going to probably do just like a quick little synopsis. Yeah. Okay. Because I was going to say I. Oh no. Wait. I do remember a lot of this all of a sudden. It just came flooding back. My memory is that there was a house of girls who all went to school together. They were all very very close. It was very precious. One of them was dating a guy who was a triplet and all of them also went to the school together. Mm-hmm. And then one night, in this house of like five girls, someone broke in, two of them ended up surviving, but one of the two that survived, literally saw allegedly the killer in all in black. They made eye contact with each other and he walked off and she just didn't know if it was someone who broke in or someone who was staying and was now leaving in the middle of the night. She ends up running down to her roommate, room who was so alive and the two of them stayed there not knowing that everyone else in the building had died and then after that, it gets shaky for me. - Yeah, absolutely, no, that was really helpful because I think that's probably like the gist of what most people remember. So the address, which is often referred to by the address, so it's 1122 King Road. I will say also they've demolished the house since. But it was 2022 and the five friends and mentioned were Kaley Gonzalez, Madison, Madison or Maddie Mogen, Zanna Cernodal, Dylan Mortensen and Bethany Funk and Dylan and Bethany were the ones who survived. Dylan is the one who was, who witnessed the intruder and when police eventually arrived, they found the remaining four people killed in the house stabbed to death. And one of them was the triplet that you mentioned. Why are is my, sorry, June 1st literally. - It was standing on my stomach. - In the most morbid way, it was very cute to see a fuzzy little cat at least be. - I know, I'm glad he got his air time for a moment, but man, his claws. And Zanna Cernodal, her boyfriend, like you mentioned, was Ethan Chapin, who was a triplet with siblings, Hunter and Maisie. And last we left off, the families were notified. This is, I mean, the kids were notified or the students were notified, but they were not notified by police. They were notified by getting an alert from the university as they're sitting outside in the driveway for hours, not knowing if anyone inside, like what happened. They didn't know it was a homicide until they got the alert from, it's called a vandal alert from the university. It's all just, it's all just very traumatizing. And then on top of that, while these people are trying to grieve and process and understand what's even going on and get through this, unfortunately, it was similar to the Gabby Petito and some of the other big cases that blew up on TikTok and social media where people were just going crossing lines and going too far and creating stories, narratives that just damaged people's lives and lost people their jobs. And I mean, really put the people through the ringer. And so Dylan was one of those examples because she saw the intruder but didn't call the police. And like you said, you know, this is not something she understood what was going on. She had been drinking. It was just like a hazy memory. She thought maybe it was just one of their friends. And she was getting like threatened daily, you know, and so was the other boyfriend. Like these people are just completely like an onslaught of stuff at them. And so that's kind of where we left. The last thing I believe I said was that they found a knife sheath and they were able to trace that knife sheath, the DNA on it back to someone. - Okay, yes. - And that's where we're going to begin. So here we go, part two. What the public did not know was that the killer had left the knife sheath behind next to Maddie in her bed. This was a critical mistake. Investigators collected DNA from a button on the sheath and they used forensic genealogy to follow its path. At the same time, they were also searching for a vehicle of interest, a white Hyundai Alontera. They requested assistance from other authorities. You can also see there's black and white footage of this car speeding off in the middle of the night. And that's where they saw the Hyundai Alontera. That's why they're looking for this car. They requested assistance from other authorities locating any white Hyundai Alontera made between 2011 and 2013. But this was not public knowledge. It was just amongst police authorities throughout the states. The vehicle had been captured on surveillance footage driving slowly near the King Roadhouse before the murders and then like booking it after the murder. So they were like, well, this is highly suspicious, obviously. And as these two searches are kind of going on, investigators identify a possible partial match to the DNA on the sheath. And it belonged to a man in Pennsylvania. Now not him, but his son, 28-year-old Brian Coburger, owned a white Hyundai Alontera. So that's a nice little crossover. That car had actually already been pulled over about a day after the police had put out this note about the car, but his was in a 2011 to 2013 model. So they just like didn't report it. Turns out it was a different year. But that was actually his car he had been pulled over. Oh, okay, good. Isn't that by any like bananas? I just there's also body cam footage of him getting pulled over and you're just seeing him like, oh, what's wrong officer? And it's like, you know the sigh of relief that came out of him when he got to get away with it. Like the way that he must have pissed his fucking pants, right? Yeah. Like, thought away with it. And the way that he must have thought he was such a bad ass afterward makes me want to just like, added to part of his bragging for a while, I bet. Totally. Ugh, what a fucking creep. So they didn't end up reporting it, but it is wild because they do have the body cam footage of like them getting pulled over. And it's like, why are you even speeding anyway after like, like truly, if you come in a crime, I got away with it. Why on earth are you ever testing those waters again? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Brian turns out Brian co burger that's, he's become like, the boogey man in a lot of places. Like I've talked to people who say like, their young kids are terrified of this guy. Really? Because yeah, because it was like hit, first of all, his face, like he has one of those like stairs where you were like, oh, I don't look him up, Brian with a Y KOH. Like he looks like he wants to hurt women because he does want to hurt women, that's his whole thing. Yeah, the second you look at him, you know that he, the way he poses, the way he like smirks and looks like a fucking, he has a really, I don't know what the right word is, but like his penetrating eyes, like his, it's like his forehead is like so ridged in front of his eyes, that his eyes look shadowed and dark all the time. Yes, he has dark eyes, yeah, on like every level of that word. Yeah, I agree. Wow. So this fucking guy, I mean, he's just a creep on every level. He was a PhD criminology student. Of course. And TA, a teaching assistant at Washington State University in Pullman, Washington. And Pullman and Moscow are both university towns. They share the border, Washington, Idaho border, and they're less than 10 miles away apart. So it's like a 15 minute drive. They're basically the same town. You know, like if you're in one, you're like 10, 15 minutes from the other. So essentially, he attends and works at Washington State, which is like 15 minutes down the road. Got it. Ryan did his undergraduate degree back in his home state, Pennsylvania, where he focused on criminal psychology. I mean, really, it's like, it's just meant to be more fucking obvious. He was intensely interested in what thoughts and feelings people experienced while they were actively committing crimes. Ew. So was this part of his like fucking PhD research to like, test it out for himself? Right, right? Like, no, it was more like his PhD shit was like research for himself, for his own experience, which is like, it's just sick. So what he would do is he would conduct these surveys, but they were like, sometimes he just did them like, just to find out, like it wasn't necessarily for school, he would like post on Reddit, like, hi, I'm a student at whatever. And I am conducting a graduate survey. And then he would ask these really weird specific questions, like, how did you pick your victim? Like, he would send these to people. He would post them in like subreddits for like former convicts or what, you know what I mean? Like, like where people were had experience being imprisoned for some violent crime. And he would look for people who had raped hurt women, killed women, and then have them fill out these surveys of like, what were you feeling? And like, what did your body go through? And like what, and it's like, what the fuck do you like fixated on like, you have the experience fixated on what this experience would be like. And he would like also, though, want to plan it. So he would ask like, where you charge, where you convicted, did you leave evidence? Like, he was also trying to literally get research for his own life, like on how to do something like this. So Ryan's father had recently flown to Washington and driven home to Pennsylvania with Brian for winter break. And along the way, Brian, like I said, was stopped by authorities and captured twice on body cam footage. And he, I forgot, I thought he'd got pulled over once. I'm sorry, he got pulled over twice on their drive from. - Oh my God. - Like get us together. - From Washington state to fucking Pennsylvania and his dad's in the car and all the footage. And they're like, what's wrong officer? Twice he got pulled over and twice he like wanted He wanted to have that you know what it was for it was for for tailgating. I Really to get pulled over twice for tailgating within a matter of days is crazy Well, I imagine he had a lot of pent-up rage so he was probably it was probably showing up in his road rage. Yeah But also like you're right. It was either road rage and he was not hiding his anxiety about what he'd done well Yeah, or he like really just didn't fucking Karen was I Know I mean, it was like I don't know either. I don't know either. I wouldn't I guess there's no way to know But it's just like yeah, the fact that they like ran his record and it was like he just got pulled over twice since the murders like on his way home from Basically committing the murders. It's just wild crazy so I can't imagine pick your dad up at the airport after you've done something like that and be like okay Now let's drive home for Christmas. I can't imagine being that dad realizing I was in the car with a fucking murderer Like that you create. It's your I mean. Yeah, oh my god. It's the dad's fall But it's like it's it's not but it's like that realization to feel like you're in the car with someone you trust the most And it's actually somebody should trust at least. It's crazy. Oh Or someone you just didn't know at all, you know Okay, so He was worn twice to slow down and stop following other vehicles so closely While staying in Pennsylvania investigators had like clocked him at this point So they started staking out his house and they watched him do all sorts of weird shit at his house like He was like wearing gloves and like doing all these weird he's just so weird fucking dude While he was staying in Pennsylvania They were sticking out his home and they collected his father's DNA from garbage outside and when his father came back as a partial match They were like, okay, well now we're pretty confident that Brian's our guy The probable cause affidavit for Brian's rest also detailed Brian's cell phone data the night of the murders He had left his university housing in Washington that night headed from Pullman in the direction of Moscow and there's no reason for him to have done this His phone stopped reporting to the network at 247 a.m. Which investigators claim is consistent with it like He has a PhD. Oh, sorry, sorry Jack. Oh Wait a minute. Sorry. I think the universe sent you that sneeze on purpose because I wanted to say that the day this episode comes out It's Jack's birthday happy birthday Jack And I keep meaning to say and I keep forgetting and then you sneezed and said sorry Jack and I went oh, wait So thank you for doing that happy birthday Jack. I appreciate you. Sorry about all the and Trauma you have to listen to every week. I know man. You really go through it. So thank you for everything you do. We appreciate you We'll text you also, but I don't know. I just saw it on the calendar. I was like fun. Okay so Did it it it it his phone stopped like this guy? He he thinks he's so smart, right? But then he drives there and then turns his phone on airplane mode On the way there. It's like why would you turn it on airplane mode before you left the house dumbass? Yeah, turn the whole phone off. tracks you all the way there it tracks you on the way there and then you turn it off idiot. Okay, so Just I can't so he turns off the phone at 2.47 a.m At 4.48 a.m Shortly after the murders so this is about like a two hour almost exactly window Yeah, his phone reconnects to the to the network Instead of taking the direct route so he's still in Moscow when he turns his phone on and like what do you think is gonna happen for those two hours? Like I don't understand and and also like this It's telling but I mean it sounds like for two hours. He was Invading their home, right? It could be but he could have been hyping himself up He could have been watching video like who knows what he was doing, you know what I mean? And like cuz I was gonna say what the hell was he doing for two hours because this feels like well I mean and I also like to stab four people to death is like also a very Yes would be probably a long incident, but I don't know How much of it was like him just like and and we don't like okay, we'll get to him So his phone reconnects instead of taking the direct route from Moscow back to Pullman He divert south taking a long route through residential neighborhoods and small farm communities So he just takes like a weird route home At 5.30 he returns home, but at 9 a.m His phone data reports that he returned to the motherfucking crime scene I'm not surprised, but I am I didn't I Know he feel it feels like something In his MO and I don't know why but doesn't it totally though like for researchers so good because he thinks he's so good He thinks he's too good. That's what these people think that they're too good to get caught You know what I mean that they're owed something So he at 9 a.m. His cell phone data reported that he briefly returned to King Street and this is before the police were ever called So that's wild extra weird. Yeah, so he thought maybe he wanted to check if hadn't come yet So maybe he just thought like maybe I should go check and make sure everyone's dead before there's witnesses or something No, I think it's that thing that they say where like they returned to check if anyone's found out and then like Usually police are there and it's like oh you've returned to the scene of the crime to see and You're too nosy, you know, but like I feel like he Must have gone there seen nothing and been like Probably thrilled because nobody's called the police. Mm-hmm, you know like there's no caution tape like with it Like he feels like oh, he's probably at least farther away from it than If there were already police swarming the place. Yeah, it's just sick. So he's just getting off on all this. It's like it's just horrid So all of his cell phone data was also supplemented with security footage because a lot of the Buildings around some of them have like security cameras that captured his car at the King Roadhouse Immediately before and after the murders like you're on camera, buddy Finally the DNA evidence on the sheath with which matched Brian was enough for authorities to arrest him and On December 29th the victim's families were notified that a suspect was in custody and the following day December 30th 47 days after the murders the police announced that an arrest had been made Once Brian's identity became public harassment of the victim's friends and family continued People began making fan accounts for Brian and like Fake social media accounts someone with a fake Brian profile message one of the friends, Josie and said hey It's Brian. Sorry about the bitches laughing emoji. What the fuck is wrong with people what is wrong with people sick Like sick taunting. Can you imagine all your friends being murdered and then someone reaching opportunity to be the murderer and going Sorry about those bitches. Are you fuck you kidding me fuck like for what? It's insane your values straight, but I dude like get your fucking value straight. 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There was speculation that he, you know, wanted to kill young women because he was a member of the in-sell community, um, involuntary celibate for those who don't know, um, men who believe they are being denied sex against their will, and that sex is being had by, like, a small number of men, um, and that they're not part of it and, uh, they should be entitled to it in what, in whatever way they can. Um, so after he was, um, arrested, members of online in-sell message boards start making posts like praising Brian and being like, yeah, he got them back, you know, like, uh, an FBI agent involved with the case said, we never saw evidence that shows Brian Cobra is part of the in-sell movement, but the theory persisted and you'll see why. Because women who knew Brian, you can't hide this shit, came forward and described him as making them deeply uncomfortable. Um, a student at Washington State University had previously accused Brian of being aggressive toward her and following her to her car more than once. Um, but the university police didn't pass her reports to the city police because, according to them, nothing that occurred rose to the level of a crime. Oh, good. However, he was ultimately fired from his teaching assistant position because his behavior had gotten so out of control and for poor performance. So while awaiting trial, Brian's defense team argued that it would take them much longer than they'd been given to go through all the evidence available and build an adequate death because at this point, he was facing, uh, death sentence for all four murders. His defense requested more trial or time in the trial was postponed indefinitely. As the rest of Moscow and the University of Idaho tried to move forward, residents of King Road felt haunted by this house's history. Like, for example, one of the friends or siblings at the fraternity house, their window faced the King Road house, so every single day they had to look out and see like where their brother was killed. Ava could see the police tape still up more than a year later, like there was still pieces of tape, like it's still it was still just like a traumatic thing to have to look at every day. People were also, of course, coming into film it and like make tick talks about it and stay in front of it and take photo. I mean, you know, it was like a tourist thing too. Yeah. Finally, like I said earlier, the University decided to have it torn down. Uh, Zana and Kayleigh's families actually opposed the destruction of the building, but the University president said it's a grim reminder of the heinous act that took place there. While we appreciate the emotional connection, some family members of the victims may have to this house, it is time for its removal and to allow the collective healing of our community to continue. However, the family said it was not just an emotional connection that they thought the house should remain intact throughout the trial because there might be evidence inside it. And I was like, it's not a terrible point. It's actually, I think, a very good point. That's a good point too. But in the end, there would be no trial because on July 2nd, 2025, Brian accepted a deal. He pleaded guilty on all four counts. I know a first degree murder and one count of burglary in order to remove the death sentence. He instead accepted four consecutive life sentences without parole 10 years for the burglary and waived his rights to future appeals. Uh, the Gonzales family felt very ambushed by the deal, saying in a statement, they vaguely mentioned a possible plea on Friday without seeking our input and presented the plea on Sunday for wonderful young people lost their lives. Yet the victims families were treated as opponents from the outset. We weren't even called about the plea. We received an email with a letter attached. That's how the prosecutor's office treats murder victims families. I mean, I hate late. I was going to say, I feel like from the very beginning, they were not prioritized. I mean, even all the way down to like, they're standing right there at the crime scene and had to find out through a text with everybody else going off. The two people who lived in the house were not being told what was going on. Yeah. It was, it was not handled well. Are they? They deserve to know before the public knows. I absolutely agree. Like, this is all just botched really. Um, he, so Brian later attempted to re-can his decision and request a trial. And it was like too late, bro. Yeah, you can't. That's not how this works. You studied this, didn't you? Not well. I don't know. I HD not well. Exactly. I will forever just want to ask him why the fuck he was even studying this unless it was like, no, it was just for his own like, it was, it was what he was interested in. Yeah. That's, I wonder if he ever had intentions. Not, I wonder if he ever had intentions of studying that stuff to try to like be interested in it for, for a better reason, or if he only ever want, if he only ever got into it because he knew he was going to do something bad. No, no. So that's a really interesting point because I do remember some of the highlighted quotes from his online posts and, and journal entries or whatever you call them. And forum posts, he would say things like, I just feel nothing. Like, can someone help me understand why, like, why I feel nothing? Like, he was basically describing a lot of like psychopathy, sociopathy, like, these traits. I think just like, he was like, I don't feel empathy. Like, you know, like, he was clearly trying to understand it. So I think that was part of it too, is like trying to understand why he had this urge. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know that he nested and, and some of the posts were like, I think I'll do something bad one day, but I don't know, like, I don't know. It was just kind of like, he was trying to figure himself out through all this and then had clearly made up his mind that he was, that it was women's. Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't know. There it was there. And I, I, I would say he at least is heavily leaning towards and sell communities. But it reminds me a lot of they share like him. So yeah, they sure like him and what that's worth. It reminds me a lot of the, there was a, another mass school shooting at, um, this was years ago at San Bernardino at their university, where a guy in the in cell community shot up a sorority house because he thought the women deserved because they wouldn't look at him or give it a chance. Like, so this isn't the worst time has even happened. No, no, of course not. Yeah, it's really dark. It's really dark. Um, it gives me the chivers. Yeah. So in the wake of all of this, um, many, of course, continue to ask why he would do such a thing, um, into these people and like, you know, just make any sort of sense of it. Um, there's lots of docky series that dive into the psychology, his life history, trying to find some explanation. Now, this is chilling. Admin's from a Facebook group that was dedicated to discussing the case with over 200,000 members believe that Brian was secretly a member of the group. I'm sure. Due to alarming and suspicious comments that one particular member would leave throughout the investigation. And it was like, maybe they knew something, you know, and hinting at it. Like, this guy's just a fucking baby. I'm sure, um, whether or not he was arrested, the account just got deleted. So they were like, hmm, he was absolutely in those groups. He would love to see people finally giving him a pat on the back or something or totally like discussing him. Yeah. Yeah. Um, Skyborgman who directed Netflix documentary about the murder set of Brian, I think his silence is a way of attempting to keep the spotlight focused on him, which is an interesting angle. Like he's being so quiet because he's not, he's just like, let them talk, you know, but he also, I think, can't, uh, shut up for that long. I'm sure he'll say something dumb soon. Um, Emily Brant says that Brian is a loser and nobody should be talking about him at all. And I love that. Um, hey, man. Instead, she wishes people remember her friends' lives and that they would remember them right after so many people got so much wrong. And I love them, Emily, for that. She said they were not what happened to them, who they are as people is so much more than the Idaho for their friend Phoebe McGrath said in a documentary interview, I think that the world has made their idea of who Kaley Maddie's Anna and Ethan were. So I think it's important to still emphasize like who they were as friends, who they were as people. They aren't just these victims. So those who knew Ethan remember him as outgoing, kind, funny, someone who's made, who made everyone's lives better in the 20 years, he looked 20 years old. Mm hmm. Throughout his entire life, he and his siblings were barely apart for more than 12 hours at any time. His father Jim said, I don't have any regrets whatsoever. I know that he lived the very best. His mother Stacy said, I would imagine there's parents in the similar situation that would look back and think, oh, you know, maybe I should have worked half time. We can't come up with one thing we would change in our life. Maddie's mother Karen kept Maddie's room at home in tact to spend time in so she can feel close to her daughter. She said she is very little room in her heart for anger and just remembers what a loving and happy person Maddie was. Mm hmm. Um, Karen said that when Maddie was a baby, she decided she never wanted her to know one moment of sadness. So she never let her cry. Jesus. And she said she just all she wanted was to make her feel confident and loved. Another friend named DJ said he would remember all the dances Maddie would make up and those would those were going all over TikTok. Like when the murder, the news of the murders came out, those went viral, of course. But she was known for having her laptop on hand to play music for everyone. Um, meanwhile, Stephen Christie and Salva's founded a nonprofit and Kaylee's honor. Um, the foundation is called murder has a name. And here is the mission statement. We are committed to expanding access to advance forensic DNA technology, investigative resources, and critical case funding so that victims are never forgotten and families are not left without options. Through innovation, advocacy and action, we work to ensure that every case has the opportunity to be reexamined. Every name is honored and every path to justice is pursued. Every victim has a name. Every family deserves answers. Every case deserves a chance to be solved. So they're like trying to really get into this forensic genealogy thing and make that more accessible and open for people going through similar experiences. Yeah, Christy said of the organization. I was at the point in time that I did not feel like I was going to be able to live life. I am not going to be able to continue living, not knowing, and to think that there are families that do. So because she found out, right, who the killer was, but she's like, I couldn't imagine. I can't imagine being one of the families who didn't get answers and still waiting. And like she said, it was hell for those 47 days. And 47 seconds feels like eternity, right? Exactly. So it's like to go on even longer. She was like, I don't know how anyone does that. And she said, it's just about trying to give families answers. And I just find that awesome. Murder has a name is the name of the organization if anyone wants to look it up. In honor of Maddie and Zana, Ashlyn couch co-founded a scholarship fund and nonprofit. It's called Made with Kindness Foundation. And she says, the endless laughter and crazy times with them are memories I'll never forget. The Made with Kindness Scholarship Fund will give us the opportunity to help support the lives of college students. So it's basically just a college scholarship, which is really neat. And Ethan also has a scholarship program founded in his honor called Ethan's Smile Scholarships. He was known for his big grin. And it is just really, it's just how something good comes out of every one of these cases is beyond me because sometimes I can't fathom how. But yeah, that's, that's, that's the, that's the story. Wow. Wow. I think the craziest part still is that he didn't even really have a relationship to any of them. He just, yeah, he just saw them. He just, it makes me believe that he's done this before. I can't imagine my first crack out of the box. I'm going to go into a house full of like seven people. And yeah, but you know, he's been like planning this in his head for years. And he thought it was going to be this like flawless execution and that he was going to be able to do it again and again. You know, it's like, I think such a fucking grand spectacle of a murder. Like there's no way he would have gotten away with that if he had killed like four. Maybe, I mean, you could be right. Maybe and also like, I didn't even get into the details because they would have just taken forever. But some of the stuff and citations he got for being a creep to women and like some of the shit he would say about women on the internet, like it was dieable. It was that he could have probably, I mean, because one of the boyfriends was there and maybe he didn't expect the boyfriend to be there or something. Yeah. And he just felt like, well, I can overpower any woman because they're just dumb female or something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think he must have either like spotted that it was, he must have probably, I mean, it's 15 minutes, 20 minutes from his home or whatever. He'd probably just drove around there all the time and was just clocking. He must have been like, like scouting or something like, like, like, that's what I guess. But I don't know. There's no way he just like jackpot hit a house full of girls, you know. I'm sure he just like was scoping around and like, I do love when they think they're the fucking smartest person in the room. And then you can, especially like, you can't even remember the fucking knife sheath. Like, at what point did he go fuck, which makes me think maybe that's why he went back. He was like, I should have. Oh, do I go back in there? Do I just am? I didn't even think of that. I, at some point, he went where the fuck is the knife sheath and then realized the bomb car is like, it doesn't matter because your car is already been spotted twice now on the camera. So if you, if he had gone back, yeah, anyway, what the fucker? Well, he's gonna talk soon. He's way too full of himself. He's already talking in his cell for sure. He wants attention and a book deal and a nonsense. I mean, whatever. They all do or I'm sure he wants to be like someone that they interview for future criminology textbooks or something. Yeah, he won't. Yeah, exactly. And like, sicko. All right. I gotta go on a scream and let me downstairs. I can hear my friend's home, my friend Lyona's home. Right. Well, now that you're friend's home, I hope the two of you have a great play date. Thank you so much. We'll all talk to you next week. And it sounds good. That's why we drink.