E1210 - Guillermo Talks DWTS, Love Is Blind w/ Erika, The Stanford Prison Experiment
1h 14m 43s
The episode blends personal storytelling with deep reflections on relationships, parenting, and life transitions. Nick and Jimmy share heartfelt memories of bonding through life challenges, including surviving in LA, caring for pets, and forming emotional connections through shared love of the Milwaukee Brewers’ baseball games. A central theme is the importance of unity in parenting, illustrated through the Stanford Prison Experiment as a metaphor for how competing authority figures—like parents—can erode trust and create conflict in children’s lives. The discussion extends to real-life parenting challenges, such as maintaining consistency and avoiding favoritism. Erica from *Love Is Blind* opens up about her journey post-divorce, emphasizing how transparency about her past helped her build confidence and emotional resilience in new relationships. The show highlights the tension between career ambitions—like Blake’s boat lifestyle—and personal stability, revealing deep-seated fears of losing control. The hosts also examine how reality TV distorts emotional truths, often amplifying drama through editing. Finally, Guillermo’s story underscores how unexpected opportunities can lead to personal growth, from dancing to wellness habits, illustrating how small moments of joy and connection—like getting a manicure or enjoying a massage—can transform one’s sense of self and well-being. The episode concludes with a celebration of resilience, authenticity, and the quiet power of shared experiences.
What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Volphiles Reality Recap Edition. I'm your host, Nick, joined by my wonderful, amazing wife and sidekick. Sidekick. Haven't heard that term in a long time. You don't like that? You don't like my partner. It's giving now. It's giving that in Robin's, my sidekick. The phone. That's what I thought of it. Sidekick. Okay. The phone sidekick. Oh, a little sidekick. Mermaid man and barnacle boy. We also have Jimmy and Susie with us. The household, everyone's here. You guys have a great weekend. What'd you guys do? First, hallelujah festivities in the LA for your boy and they're already a bit much. Are you sleeping on the floor still, Jimmy? No, I'm on a mattress. Now we're good. We're good. Jimmy, you could have stayed on my couch. Where are my cats? I can't leave them. I mean, I'm allergic, but you could have brought them for a night. We're good. We're good. Drive you back and you can feed them and I don't know. You did that on the floor. Oh, my God. Well, I had I had a rug that was like the floor. Jimmy. Oh, my God. We cuddle. Hey, sometimes when you go through like shit like that, you go through the mud with somebody, you build that bond. So me and my cats are even closer now. I will, you know what? I will say when I first moved to LA, I slipped on a mattress on the floor for a while and my neighbor saw me because I had like these big windows and he he was French and he came by and he was like, oh, it's so romantic. You moved to Los Angeles. You sleep in the floor and I was like struggling. I was like, yeah, Valentina. I am. It is romantic. And I do look back fondly. So this is that's good. Yeah. Did you order Chinese food? Of course. It was take out like every night. I didn't have anything. I didn't have any like anything to cook. So yeah. Air one out that ass. I need the rewards program. Oh my God. This is an expensive place you could go. Yeah, it's putting a hole in my pockets, but it's so good. The black and the so kind. Oh my God. And the magazine is unruly. Are you like just discovering, Air One right now? No, I had the well, I had the the Hayley Bieber smoothie when I first came out here. I didn't know it was like this viral thing. It was like food, coffee, groceries. It was all these cool little things. I like it. Air One. You thought it was just smoothies. Yeah, I thought it was just the smoothies. Also, like the area where Air One is like in Studio City, I could just kill hours there of people watching. Sportsman's Lodge, baby. Yeah. This is beautiful people. Some baddies walk through. Including me. Hey, I'm in that room now. Keep an eye out for soon. Keep an eye out. I get lunch there sometimes if anyone's hot, single and rich. Listen to me. And rich. Just I love it. I love it. Yeah, how are y'all doing? Looks cold up there. Nick, you got to be up. You got to be up. We're doing great. I'm thriving. My brewers or when you're, well, when we're recording this, they're up two games to none. By the time you guys are listening, this tonight's game will happen. Okay. A lot of people are saying, I don't know. People might be saying, who cares about baseball? That might be true. And then people might say, who cares about the brewers and the Tampa Bay Rays? Because they're small markets. But I will say, the highest rated world series in the past 13 years. Is it really? Wow. No wish. The Mizorowski effect. Who is your team's grown up, Jimmy? Cubs and socks. Just Chicago teams. You die hard? No. Like when they won the World Series one, when the Cubs won the World Series in 2016, skip school, went downtown for the parade. Yeah, did all of that. But if the socks, I wouldn't just describe like the brewers. They're social media team. They put out like every time they win a series, they put like a, they make like a movie, like five minutes long. That's awesome. Highlights. Every time I watch it, I cry. I may now watch it. And I was blubbering next to her like watching. What's crazy? What's crazy about the brewers being good in baseball is because it's usually like the teams that can spend the most win the most. It's not like NFL or NBA where there's a salary cap like in baseball. Like if you got the most bread, you're usually going to show up in the world. Yeah. And there's like a, they're, they're fighting right now. There's a whole debate over it. But like it is, it's fighting the MLB and the union. There might be a lot of lack of that. We're getting, we're nerding out. That's too much nerd for the show. Mizorowski. It's just, it's so, I'm just like so happy for the city of Milwaukee. And it's true. This feels like this would never happen. And like the kid in me is like. All right. Hold on. Feeling so alive. I'll just want an NBA championship though. With y'all. It's not the same. I don't know if it was forever ago. It was a few years ago. But bulls haven't won shit. The brewers in baseball like Milwaukee's a baseball town. And they always have been a baseball town. And like I grew up listening like, you know, I think about baseball. It's the one sport where like like you could listen to a game on the radio. And it's almost just as good as watching it. Like you, if you are like on a campfire and you're camping and you had a baseball game to listen to, it's like it is, there's something about that being a pastime. And I just want to say, now they ask me this question over the weekend. I thought I was interesting because I was kind of in my thoughts and feelings about like we're in Vancouver. And I'm so sad. I can't be in the city of Milwaukee right now because like it is home. And when the city, the city loves its teams. And the city is so alive right now. And like everyone's just happy. Everyone's written for their team. It's just like it's like a magical place to be. And over the week. And then I goes, what about like, you know, we're have our kids. We're love them. They're great. We're, you know, they're the iris held her bottle by ourself for the first time last night. That's such a monumental moment, right? So beautiful. But now it was like, first of all, Iris held her bottle for the first time. And we're like, oh my gosh, look at Iris. She's holding her bottle. And then we look down and dove is holding her own. Now it goes to me over the weekend. She's like, what like, what is one thing you kind of miss about our old life? Like just not having kids? That wasn't my question. What was the question? It was something like that. No, my question. Maybe you heard me wrong. And that's why you answered the way you did. I was confused why you answered that way. I was projecting. I know I said, where do you feel it the most that we have three kids? Oh, the same thing. Well, because and so she asked me on a weekend where I'm thinking, I like, my team for the first time in my life is in the world series. And there's a good chance they will never make it again. And all I want to be right now is in the city of Milwaukee going to these games. And I want to bring my hot partner, you know, like when before we got married and before we had kids, I would have been like, all right, hot girlfriend, wife, whatever. Let's go to my hometown. We'll go lots of the bars and I'm going to take you out to dinner and we're going to live it up and we're going to show you my city and it'd be great. And we're going to have a bunch of sacks and we're going to watch sports and it'd be great. And now it's like, I hope I can catch the game. You know, like I got to put the twins down. You know, it's like, it's just you have so much more responsibility. And before it was like, you could just drop things at, you know, at a whim and just go experience. And like it is, it's really hidden to me at a time where it's just like, I would love nothing more to do that. And I just, I can't right now. And I'm so grateful I can't because of what I have that's bringing me and keeping me here. I will say though, even though I can't like go to the games and I'm not like with my buddies and everything, the beginning of last year, like I was always been like a baseball fan, but not just it's hard to keep up when you don't live in the same city and it's those 162 games. But I was like, I want to watch the Brewers. And I went and like bought the package so I can watch him. And now he was like, she enjoyed watching the games with me, not to know like a sports fan, like sort of way, but like is like a someone who enjoyed watching their partner enjoy the games. And it became something we did. And we would play the, we put the games on almost every night. Usually in the background, well, we're cooking dinner or whatever. So it is kind of even though I'm with here in like Vancouver, it's like a nice full circle moment. Like that, like something I get to share with my wife, you know, because she supported me over the past couple of years, like watching all these games. So it is kind of poetic that I am here with my wife watching my Brewers. That's sweet, you guys. So thanks. I'm just so excited. I like, I just can't believe this is happening. I literally can't believe that they're on the verge of maybe winning the World Series. And it's just like, I'm trying to cherish this because I don't think it's ever going to happen. It's true for those small market teams. Like you don't know if you're ever going to get back, that's why the Thunder or like the whole city, it was crazy in Oklahoma City because the Thunder have a chance. You're in and you're out right now in small markets. And I just love the way the city comes alive. The people, like it's like it really, the, it just makes you feel proud to be where you're from. You know, I hope my future partner can, you know, get down with that the same way, because I want to be the person that's obnoxiously like sitting courtsided every Chicago Bulls game when I get older. Well, I don't get to go to every game, Jim. You got to pick your spots. You know what I'm saying? You got to be. Oh, fuck, that's right. All right. We try to watch. Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, no kids that got to get your chores done. Yeah, you got to get your chores done. But like Nick does still have to go down and pick up the Uber Eats food from the lobby, because I won't be going down there. I already got my sweat pants on and I don't have shoes on. You know, so he might have to miss a couple of pitches. Hey, that's a nice easy, easily accomplishable task, though, that you can get Ronnie points for. Yeah, it's a bounce. I went and got the Uber Eats boom. You got to get the whatever. When we're not watching the brewers dominate in the world series, we started watching this like Stanford prison experiment. What is the actual name of it? It's called the news, Stanford prison experiment, which is funny because like basically all of reality TV, the bachelor's social, you know, love is blind. Anytime we've ever
talked about these shows, we've always referenced the Stanford prison experiment because that is essentially what these these shows are all kind of rooted in, right? Yeah. But they're recreating this actual experiment that was that famously happened in the 70s. I think everyone knows about the Stanford prison experiment at this point. But it was a famous experiment that happened at Stanford University where this professor got a bunch of students and they made half of them and made half of them guards. And it was supposed to happen over two weeks and they had to shut it down in a few days because they immersed themselves so much in these roles that it got out of control. And basically it was an experiment of how quickly people will adapt to a controlled environment and kind of become their environment, you know, or like nature versus nurture type of experiment. It's ironic though, beginning you're watching the Netflix show, they talk about how the original experiment was actually kind of manipulated by the, I think the professor or whoever the guy was running it and I'm watching it and I'm like, oh, so like that's like that sounds like a reality TV producer, you know, like, you know, in a sense, so then it's like it's funny how the Stanford prison experiment, or you find out originally actually operated more like a reality TV show. And here now you have years later, a reality TV show trying to recreate an experiment, interesting, which is kind of meta in a way. But when you're watching it, you're kind of like, well, how is it? How much of this is actually an experiment versus because a true experiment has no, like it's all everything's controlled. It doesn't have people manipulating situations because like that changes the authenticity of how things play out. Like on this experiment, they're deliberately casting people like crazy Larry, former inmate. Yeah, who spoiler alert, he like quits in the first couple days because he's like, you know it, I've been to prison, he was hoping to get a guard role, he was like, let me get a little revenge. I've seen the other side. I'm curious if you guys got to the part where they, I think I've seen episode two. We started watching episode two. Okay, me too. I'm like halfway through. I'm pretty sure they got to, they do this like this raid. Did you guys see that part? Oh, no, we haven't. Okay, see this is where it starts to feel like it's not control, a control group. So I'm like, I actually am curious if people really just like succumb to whatever role they're given. But I'm like, you guys are giving very specific directions that are influencing the project in a negative way. And also the people that are taking this too serious are the ones that ruin it. I always think of everything through the lens of sports. It's just what I know. And in basketball, when you have these teams that have their identity because the coach is assigned these roles, like you're, we're playing through you. You're our glue guy. You box out, you rebound. That's really all you do. You set screens. And those teams end up performing the best usually. And I remember at Ohio State, like when it was, we kind of decided like who our captain was going to be, he took on like this whole persona and ego that came with it. And truly just because like it was just one day, the next, we saw the work he put in. But like coach said, you're our captain now. And in that moment, like they're in there, like from that day forward, he just became this new kind of person. Hmm. What's interesting to me is that there's, so there's two like main guys, I guess that are, have two interesting perspectives. And I feel both of them. So one of them, and I don't know their names because they go by their inmate numbers. And I also don't remember the numbers. But there's one guy who's like, I am going to show my son that like following authority, like regardless if you agree with the authority or what, like you, you know, you follow authority. And that's like how you, you know, authority's still authority. I think he said. Yeah. And then there's the other guy who's like this history teacher and he's like, I want to show my students that like you can push, like the level of power, like that's, you know, you don't have to conform and you don't have to, you know, and so it's so interesting to watch this guy be like, let's just like stop listening to what they, let's just stop doing what they tell us to do and like see what happens. And the rest of them who are kind of like, I don't know, I guess we were just like, sure. Yeah. Yes, guard. And it's like so many of the, I appreciate the history teacher being like, I want to push these boundaries because I do feel like it's 14 days. They know it's 14 days. They know that they can say the word pineapple and they can be taken out of the experiment. But it's like, I feel like so many of them would just probably skate by because they all seem like such nice people. And no one wants to like ruffle the feather, you know, yeah, like no one wants to be the dick. And it's supposed to be an experiment, right, to see how people behave. But now that they know they're doing it on camera, they're doing it for their, that's nothing, right? Yeah. Or they're doing it for their kids. And it's not true. Right. And it's a little bit, uh, it was hard. Yeah. And it's hard to feel like they're staying through the experiment sometimes. I thought what was interesting thinking about how it relates to this our real life because you have the night shift and the day shift of guards and you have completely different vibes. The one, I think the night shift is like the guy who's, who just, you know, called himself enough. I was like, I'm a fun boss. You know, I'm the fun parent, you know, I love it is going on. I loved it. I hated that. I loved it. The real like, I don't know if he's like a real correction or officer, or if he just like works at the prison or something, but he's like, I have never seen this. Yeah. Like, yeah. He's crazy. But what I thought was the most interesting about it, regardless of whether you're good disagree or, you know, what style you prefer. But like from a parenting standpoint, I'm watching this because I just, something I appreciated my parents about my parents so much is that they were always like a united front. And that's the thing we would get the most in trouble if we try to pit our parents against each other, right? Or say, well, mom said this when, you know, or something like that. And you know, we're early in our parenting journey, now and I. And so we talk about this stuff all the time about just trying to, you know, being on the same page. And like when we don't agree, when do we have those conversations? Because we're also just kind of figuring this shit out as we go. And you see how quickly these two positions of authorities, right? You get the night shift and the day shift. And then being have completely different styles and you can tell they want to, they both care about like the inmates listening to them. Yeah. They quickly are competing with each other in a way that so quickly the inmates notice. And then they use that against the guards, you know, in conflict. And it was just like, it's just, it just like demonstrated just how important it is for parents and just how quickly kids can pick up on, like parents just trying to like almost curry favorite their kids, like God forbid, you know, especially with parents who have to separate, you know, and you're, and you're co parenting and like, you know, one time the kid goes to mom's house for a couple days, then dad's house and just the challenge of co parenting when you have parents competing for the kids affection rather than focusing on like making sure that the kids listen and they do their lessons in that you are a united front. It's just like that demonstration of how like detrimental like competing two people, two positions of authority when they're competing, how like destructive it can be, I thought it was so fascinating. Just like how quickly it was so obvious to the inmates and how they like, didn't respect them for it. I also thought the, I actually preferred how the night, like the night officers handled most situations, but I thought they set them up for failure. And it also reminded me of a metaphor for parenting when, you know, a lot of people are like, oh, I want to be cool with my kids and it's like, yeah, but kids need structure and they need like authority. I have a great relationship with my parents always did always felt friendly to them, but also they were like the authority where I felt like the night shifters, they didn't enforce the rules. They didn't even like tell them all the rules. So then when the day shift showed up, which is like real life, which is like going to college or getting a job when you're held responsible and like held accountable for rules and authority, it's like kids who go to college and they're like, I've never respected authority in my life and like, why do I have to do what you tell me? Like I've never done that before. So they set them up for failure. And then the date team was like, they were assholes on top of the fact that the inmates had no idea what they were meant to do. So I was like, damn, this is really just like a metaphor of life. It was so crazy. Yeah. That part of the show is very fascinating just to see how people respond to how, you know, being told what to do or, you know, because yeah, we want our kids to respect authority. Like we want our kids to listen to other parents on the playground. You know, I want my kids to listen to their coaches. I want other adults if our kids are acting up to, you know, respectfully, you know, and that's a challenge these days because you don't necessarily see that with every parent. It's so interesting. We were at the park here in Vancouver yesterday and we're with like some, a friend of ours who also has one of their sons and we weren't paying attention to everything that was happening. But all of a sudden, the little boy that we were with, like starts crying and like freaking out and we were like, oh no, like what happened? And then this dad comes up to Nick and I and he's like, I'm so sorry. Like he was throwing a stick and I told him like not to throw the stick. I just want you to know like that's why he's crying. And it was like, you know, I appreciated like him coming to us like that and like telling us what happened. But it's like, I think at the end of the day, I just embarrassed the kid but like more than anything. But it's like, yeah, like in those situations, you know, you know, you're like, thank you. Yeah. We were like, no, that was smart. Yeah. He should not be throwing a stick at the park. Yeah.
people to get that. Yeah, that matters. And you just don't see you don't see that as much. There's a lot, I feel like there's a lot of parents these days are like no one tells my kid what to do about me. Well, it was like in teen moms or teen moms when the one thing got pulled for he was damn your thrown in no hitter or something. Oh, no, this was in I think a different, oh, this is in the lanterns. So this is so different. I was watching. But like the dad was basically like he pulled my kid like he got mad at the coach because the kid disrespected his coach being like don't pull me on the middle of throwing a no hitter. And the dad doubled down on it like no, you're allowed to get mad at authority if you're throwing a no hitter. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. You're still a kid, man. But also it's just like it just shows everyone's perspective is so different. You know what I mean? And like and there's not necessarily a writer wrong. There's like a my way that I think is right. But you know, it's like you that's that's like that's freedom. That's living in this country. You know, it's crazy. 100%. Well, we have a jam packed episode lined up for you today. We have Erica from love is blind to update us on her journey with Blake and all your burning questions that you have for her. Like what was she gonna pack on the boat? All those questions that you are dying to hear from Erica. We got the answers and she is coming up shortly. And then we have a very exciting interview. I'm so excited. I feel honor to have him. Guillermo from Jimmy came alive also from dancing with the stars comes into our studio, sits in her couch and has a great conversation with us. He's such a fascinating man with an incredible story. And he brings laughter, enjoy to everyone who gets to meet him and listen to him. And we have Guillermo coming up shortly to talk about his life, experience working with Jimmy dancing with the stars all of the above. It was such a fun conversation to have Guillermo. And I'm very excited for you guys to listen to that conversation coming up shortly. But right now it's time for love is blind. We got Erica coming up next. We'll talk a little bit about all the shenanigans that happened in the most recent batch of love is blind. And then following that will have Guillermo for a fasting conversation. I hope you all enjoy. But right now it's Erica from love is blind. Erica, welcome to the show. Hi. Thank you so much for having me. Very excited. How I guess let's just start. How is your love is blind journey been now that we're kind of halfway through airing it. It's always like a very prickly process for all you guys. And fans, fans will fan. So overall, how has it been? Overall, it's been a really exciting adventure and really fun to kind of watch it back. Some things you remember as is. Other things give you a little bit more of a surprise when you see. But overall, very grateful for the experience so far. What's kind of given you that surprise? I think one thing that I've known about myself and I've kind of seen it come to light through like my career and work is like whenever I'm in like a new environment or new situation, I'm sort of like an observer. I kind of like take a step back. I'm like looking at things, really listening. And there's, it might not look like a lot is going on here, but so much is going on up here. And I think it's making me come across maybe a bit more stoic or quiet than I would think I am in real life. But I'm hopeful that in the next few episodes, you start to see me come out of my shell a little bit. Be a little bit more playful and fun. So it's kind of surprised me to see like really how truly quiet I look on the outside. I don't think you look that quiet. I think it's tough being on TV. And I think when you go on there, obviously it's hard not to look at comments. And I don't know what you've seen. But it's I think it's easy to see some rando make some random criticize it and hone in on that. I think I think you talk a lot. It's great. Try not to pay too much mind to the comments. You know, it's good. It's easy to get wrapped up, but I try to limit my screen time to keep my mental health in check. Yeah. At the end of the day, it only matters what my mom thinks. Which is true, but we are going to ask you some questions at the internet. A big question a lot of people are having obviously when it comes to you and Blake, right, was this idea about how much do you accept and listen to what that person is trying to tell you about what their life is and what they're going to bring the table and how much you guys can change. I feel like the audience and we're all kind of watching it is seeing from both ends you and Blake, right? Like here you are. Like you're moving in. You're like, I'm going to make this play so great that he's never going to want to leave. And he's just like every day. It's just like, can I tell you this? Can I have a new pitch about this boat? And it's like, we fucking get it. You're on a fucking boat. Anyways, but you're both kind of like it does seem, I think, to the audience that you're neither of you are like hearing that the other person like, Blake is like, no, I'm literally, I'm, I am going to leave as soon as we get done. I'm going to go sailing forever. And you're like, I don't know if I ever want to touch water. I'm kidding. But like, so walk me through just like, again, as so much as we see in these shows, are we missing anything? What really happened in the pods? And I guess like what's what what's reality versus how it's coming across and what have you learned about like how you dated and how you listened in that pods versus what you're seeing? When you're watching the pods, things are very like expedited. There's obviously thousands of hours of footage that's captured and you get, you know, maybe seven minutes to see it kind of all come together. One thing that was so interesting about Blake and I like, we didn't even talk about our careers until like four or five dates in. We had so many like, and I'll call it the invisible string theory where like, we were living in San Diego at the same time. We both have a family and home space in Wisconsin. We were in Barcelona at the same time. He opened a distillery. I opened a combutery. Like, there was just so many things that we were talking about. We're like, his career was not the first thing that we touched. But a lot of the gals in the lounge were talking about a fisherman or a captain. And I didn't even know that that was Blake like straight out of the gate. And I really do feel like I got to fall in love a bit with like, Blake outside of his career, which was like a really interesting, you know, experience. But also, he was able to tell me about his career on his own time. And we started to like, peel that onion back. I would say like, in the middle of the, of the pa dating, time frame, I feel like we tried to prioritize like, love over logistics. Like, I'm a, I'm a very like logical person. I'm a realist. Like, I've had to operate, you know, my life, especially the last five years that way. And I just wanted to let myself fall a little bit. Like, let's just have fun. Like, let's just feel it. Like, can I still even feel it? Like, I've been single for like five years, you know? And so I just let like, the sparkle and the romance of things like manifest. And I feel like I'm maybe getting a little bit of slack from the internet for like, maybe living in the clouds a little bit. But it was a lot of fun. This is Erica. I appreciate you saying that. I before I met my wife at that feeling of, well, I ever feel it was so relatable. I think a lot of us, as we get older in life, you know, and I talk about this a lot when we're younger and we date and we don't know what like, you know, we've never really felt anything before. You're like, this is great. I love you. Like, I've never felt butterflies. And then you date for a while and life happens and maybe you, you know, have a few heart breaks and like, you just get a little, not necessarily jaded. But like, you know, you become a little bit more pragmatic about love. And then you have this period of dating where you're like, you're so like looking for the red flags, looking for the green flags, right? And it's really hard to let yourself go in dating. And I remember for the longest time being like, I think I'm just going to pick someone because if it wasn't like reality TV or just, you know, like, I was so, it was really hard for me to like fall. And I think that's a feeling that's so relatable for people in like, especially in their 30s who are dating who've experienced a little bit of life. And to do this type of show, it makes all the sense in the world that you wanted to let yourself go and just kind of feel. So thank you for saying that. For sure. In terms of the Blake talking about the boat, it's, it's kind of getting to the point. I'm a little exhausted. I know. That is that editing or was he just as obnoxious about pitching his life? Is it, you know, at first it was like what handsome guy, what it sounds so fun. And it almost feels like every scene that he's in, he's talking about his lifestyle. But maybe that's just like the show. Yeah. I mean, as the like time progresses, it becomes like a bigger elephant in the room. So if you think it's a lot now, like, it's just, it's the gravity of the situation. I do think we did talk more about compromise on camera than perhaps has shown. You know, doing half the year in St. Thomas, doing, you know, three or four months in New England in the summer, everyone loves a New England summer. And then having a few like European vacations, like, I could see like a pathway to compromise. There's ultimately actions that have to be taken in a compromise. So talking about it and doing it is like an entirely, you know, different situation. But was he obnoxious about it? I wouldn't say obnoxious personally, but it was the elephant.
in the room for a very long time, yeah. What was like your biggest fear about his career? Was it him being gone for so long? Was it him? Like, you know, he kinda said like, there's children and strings. Like, was that part of it? What was it? - Yeah, I think like, and I talk about this when we're at my house is like, I would have never asked Blake like, bring your duffle bag, drop it at the front door here, and then you can never leave again. Like, that to him is probably the most terrifying, restrictive thing to hear. And so, for someone like me who loves routine, loves my career, has loved the life that I built to say, okay, leave Connecticut and be 100% on a boat, which is so normal for him. It's so radically unknown to me. And so while on one end, living in Connecticut would feel like totally restrictive to Blake, me living on a boat would feel so untethered, right? Like, I've recreated myself post-diverse and created like relationships and systems and things that helped me stay safe and confident and successful. And so I think understanding the balance between the two, you know, you have to crawl, walk and run. And it felt like mentally committing to 100% on a boat was going straight to sprint. And that was scary in the moment, for sure. - Can I ask real quick, Erica, what would be the perfect compromise in your eyes? - Well, the situation I described, I would totally subscribe to. Like, being on an island for, you know, winter, like a New England winter, to me, is definitely something doable. I've always thought about sort of like a snow bird lifestyle is what they call it in New England. I've actually done it myself. I've packed up a bag and gone for the winter down to Savannah and lived on my own. - That's where I'm from. - Yeah. - Yeah. - It's such a sweet, romantic, charming space. - It really is, oh, that's so sweet. - Yeah, and it's warm in the winter. (laughing) - But I've relocated before, after college, I moved to San Diego, I lived there for 10 years on my own. I came back, I relocated by myself across the country. Like, I'm not afraid to like go and explore. It's just, the risks I take are very calculated. It's very methodical. Like, you're planning a move that's very systematic. And this, not just reality TV, perhaps in general, but it's very overwhelming. It's in your face, it's all consuming. And that can be pretty just overwhelming to try to think about. - I mean, he also was like, no, Amazon. Don't even think about if you need a tweezer. You can't order it babe. (laughing) - I have a question 'cause we talked to Benita last week, I think, and she mentioned something about him saying, like, you know, I'd be away for six months or I forget how much the timeline was. But we all in the room were kinda like, wait, that feels different than what he was saying to Erica. As far as like, you can come with me. - Yeah. - Can you clarify what the rules really are? Can you go on the yacht with them? Or would you, like, how does that work? I don't really know. I'm like, it doesn't seem real that you could like, just board the yacht with wherever, with whoever, like owns the yacht. - Yeah, so I think there's all different boats. There's all different circumstances. He's doing charters. He's doing transfers where you, you know, bring up a bow from point A to point B. He did tell me that there would be instances where I could just come aboard, go for the journey and some that I couldn't, which is totally fine. But I think he committed a mix of those to me. Whereas it sounded like you might have told Benita no to all, but I'm not really sure. I only know my experience from it, yeah. - Gotcha. - How did it feel? I mean, like, obviously, Benita and you both seem wonderful. You also seem very different. And obviously, a lot of people are noticing that difference. But, you know, listen, we all like different types of people. Did you feel any certain type of way once kind of realizing A that Blake was, you know, also moving things along with Benita and, you know, and given that you guys personality differences, how much, how much did that matter to you? - I think it's really interesting to watch it play back. You kind of see like a Nejas fill my beans a little bit, which I didn't know happened. So that was a very interesting scene to watch. - How did you feel about that? - A Nejas, man. - I know I was actually really disappointed because it's my business. And I was very intentionally guarded in the lounge. I tried not to listen to the other women's, you know, stories, perspectives. Like, I really wanted to create my own journey. And I took it really seriously. So I was a bit disappointed that she had done that and post that conversation. The tides in the lounge really did change. You know, it gets a little competitive. It gets a little exclusive. Are you sitting with the same people, talking to the same people? And that was kind of sad. It felt like, you know, maybe a little too high school for me. But, you know, Benita at the end of the day is like a really great woman. You know, her and I have had a chance to like connect, you know, post all this filming. And she's a really awesome person. And, you know, she's apologized. She has said, you know, she wasn't sure what to do with all of these big feelings and emotions and environment that she had never been exposed to before. And obviously I can relate, I was there too. So, nothing but the best for Benita. But yeah, I mean, in the moment, like, you're trying to figure a lot out in a really short amount of time. Well, watching it back, what about how, you know, you got to see how Blake talked about you versus Benita almost in a sense where he was like, Benita is probably a rocket using his words as to say you might not be. How did you feel hearing that back? - I mean, I was also really like careful about not disclosing how I looked. I just, I really wanted to take it, I'm a rule follower, obviously, like. And Benita did share a bit about what she looks like. She cheated. - Blake asked me, like, well, I know what she looks like. I want to know. And I'm like, well, if you really want to know, then we'll see each other at some reveals. - Benita was like, I'm five, nine. I have dark hair. Have you seen it now, Benita? - I have body hair. - Pretty much like that, but like hot, you know? - Yeah, but no, I held that close to the vest. And I think we're both pleasantly surprised, which is a good thing. - So, everyone wondering, is a animal communicator worth the money? - Absolutely. The DMs are overflowing. - Please explain. - Please explain the process. - Yes, tell us everything. - She is a wonderful, wonderful human. One thing that I've like done over the course of a few years, every time there was like a major life event happening, I've called her to like share the details with the dogs and kind of get their feedback on like, what's about to come? - Oh, you're so cute. I've seen some amazing videos about this, like I don't know. I don't know if I believe it, but I've seen some cool videos. - For the naysayers, the skeptics out there. Fuck 'em or like, what am I missing? - I've done a lot worse with like 60 bucks. So, like, let's just figure it out, yeah. - Same. - They ever said like, no, we don't want to move. - No, Blake, yes, Blake. - No, like when we're moving across the country, I wanted them to know like, we're in the car for 10 days. You know, going through a divorce, now it's just me, like you guys have to be really good. Like, are you okay? Do you like the new house? Like, what can I do to make you more comfortable? - And what have their answer's been? - I'm hungry. - They are. They're always hungry. Yeah, like, but I've asked them when we're traveling, you know, Lily's a very anxious pup. She's, you know, she's a street dog essentially. 10 days in the car is a lot for her. She's not like a big car gal. So I asked her, I was like, would you like medication to make it easier? Like, this is what it's gonna look like. And she's like, I'm gonna protect you. She's like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna get all the, she said rats. So I'm like, we're not staying in any hotel, honey, with rats, like, you don't have to. - The rats! - Put your guard down. - She's like, I've seen Lady in the trail. (laughing) I've seen this film before. - I'm fascinated right now. I need to meet this lady for my cats. I'm also wondering though, like, you say you function off like logic and reason, except for when it comes to not say this is logical, but when it comes to the dogs, like, how do you know? How do you know? - Well, that's a maybe back to like falling a little bit, right? Like, you gotta leave a little romance, little room for like magic. - Little whimsy, okay. - Yeah, come on. I can't be like, too buttoned up. - Oh my gosh, that's so fun. I love that. (laughing) - At any point, if this person was like, your dog wants you to bet $10,000 on the Yankees, and then you did, and then you lost, like, is it all on you? Like, is this what would have no responsibility for the message that she is sharing? - I'm still in control, you know? - So like, so you can disagree with the pets. You're just like, you know what? Not today. - They're your kids. - Yeah. - We like, no popsicles today. - No rats. - No rats.
today. Don't knock it till you try it. Yeah. I am curious. And this I know you have to get going. I really appreciate taking the time, Erica. Back to a little bit more. I'm not serious. But like, you are open about obviously having being divorced. And I'm just curious, you know, obviously moving on from divorce is always a challenge for anyone. But like, what has been able to come on the show? Love is blind. What was that like having gone through a divorce? And it was it in any way helpful or therapeutic to do it. Yeah. I think at first like post divorce, it's new waters to navigate. And like, you're not really sure how like the dating community is going to receive that. I kind of thought that it was going to be like a black mark sort of speak on my dating resume. Like, okay, so like you just didn't make it work or like what happened? There's all these questions. And one thing that I sort of like started to get a little bit more comfortable with is that it might actually be a leg up, right? Like, I've met someone in the past that I thought was worth the commitment. It takes strength to realize that perhaps that's not the case. It takes strength to walk away. It takes strength to rebuild. And I think like it's it's made me who I am today. I think it works in my favor a bit. Yeah, like Nick and Vanessa kind of say that when we're all in the lounge, you know, prepared to go in is like in the real world dating, like when do you bring it up, you know, date five, date six, but in the pods, it's like day one, like pull the bandaid off. Like, this is it, you know? And it did give me more confidence to speak about it a bit earlier in the process. That's great. Well, I don't know if if you and Blake end up together, but I do have to say, at I think when y'all were in Mexico and he was talking to all the other guys and the way he spoke about you group of women, like made me feel so proud that he was your partner. The way he just was like, we all got Jim Stone women. Like, these are, this is a great group. Like, we really all knocked it out of the park. I just think that like shows to his character and it does seem like you really did find a really great connection. And I do hope that y'all hopefully he doesn't disappoint us. You know, you're going to say that back to episodes will come out and he'll be like, I hope not. Fingers crossed. He's on his best behavior. Oh, I know. The teaser, you know, look, he was like, okay, he's got a little to go, sassy. The teaser is teasing for sure. But yeah, like those little moments that are captured that I wasn't a part of and you get to watch them replay. Like, I don't know, it's just all part of the DNA of it. It was really gratifying to hear. And he is not wrong. The group of women on the show is next level, the highest caliber, you know, lawyers, orthodontist, VPs, like you name that we have it on the show. And I'm really proud to be part of such a group of incredible women. Oh, it's awesome. Well, Erica, I appreciate you taking the time. Best to lock the rest away. We're very excited to see how it all unfolds, but really appreciate you sharing a little bit about your journey with us today. So good to see y'all. Thank you so much. Thanks, Erica. Thanks, Erica. Appreciate you. All right. Well, I think we've covered most of the Lovis blind discourse. I'm sure we'll get into more tomorrow because we also have Wilson from Lovis blind joining us tomorrow. But up next, we have the man himself Guillermo. We were sad to see him leave dancing with the stars, but we were very excited to have Guillermo come into our studio and chat with us about his experience. Obviously his story and all the cool things he's doing with Jimmy on Jimmy Kimmel live. He is up next. Guillermo, welcome to the show. Thank you so much. I'm excited to be here. Oh, well, we're so excited. We're honored to have you, man. Well, first of all, can just congratulations on dancing with the stars. And I know that you left last week. But first of all, I was shocked. You were dancing that and I thought you were going to the finals. But I was so entertained by you. It was so fun. I thought you brought humor and brevity to the show. And I think you're already missed on dancing with the stars. That's why everybody tells me that I make a lot of people like, you know, like happy. They were like laughing everything. I bought like, I brought comedy to the show. I was dancing for the people. You know, I was like, it's a competition, but I was having fun. That's it for the people. And dancing is hard. It's not easy. You know, it's hard. Oh, it's so hard. I had the opportunity to do it years ago. And I was like, you know, I'm athletic. I want to do this. And I really wanted to go on and crush it. And whatever week it was, everyone Peter was trying to teach me was like, this feels impossible. You just feel so you feel clumsy and like whoever you are. Because if you don't know how to do these moves, it's it's so difficult. Yeah, it's so crazy. It's like they tell you, okay, you got to go quick, quick, slow. And then I was doing it. And now I was looking down and I went and it goes, no, you got to look up. There was that's going to be cameras everywhere. You got a smile. You got to be happy enjoying everything. I was like, wow, I got to calm the steps. I got to look happy. Enjoy it's hard. And then I have to move my body. It's real hard. It's one of the hardest things I ever done in my life. A lot of moving parts. Who's who's idea was it for you to go on dancing with the stars? Was it was it Jimmy's or did like someone in ABC your wives? Did you want to do it? You know what they asked me like like three, three years ago. They've been asking me for three or four years. And I always say, no, it's a lot of work. When I see them, it's a lot of work. It's a lot of and this time I'm like Jimmy say, I think you should do it. And then I talked to my wife. I said, what do you think? I said, listen, you just do it. It might help you to lose weight. She goes, it might help you to lose weight. And also you can teach me how to dance. And I go, you know what? You know what? Let's do it. I'm not going to lose anything. And I thought that I will be gone on the first week. I said, one week is enough for me. And that rehearsal, you did it before rehearsal takes three hours, four hours. It's a lot of work. You don't have life. You got it's a commitment. But but a lot of fun. It was great. It was good. That's awesome, man. That's awesome. You have such a fascinating story. I mean, you're just we see you on billboards next to Jimmy. You know, you are, you've become the fit one of the faces of Jimmy came alive. And it's such an incredible story. I know a lot of people are familiar with the fact that you were a part-time security guard with, you know, for Jimmy, you know, for the people who haven't heard, how did this all happen? Like you've become a comedic genius. It's like we love you. You're a household name, but you also come from a past where like, you know, this is not, it sounds like this wasn't like in the plans for you. You know what? Not at all. I think I was, I've been a bless. And it was lucky. And it was a good time. You know, I was, I was in the parking lot one day. It was raining. And I was, I told the announcer, Dickie, I said, Dickie, can I stay in your car? It was leaking. And the guard shaking the little office. It was leaking. So I stay in the car and I fall asleep. And then he told Jimmy, and Jimmy, the next, the next day, I guess, Jimmy told the writers, I mean, I want to put him in the show. And then the writer said, yeah, he's funny. He's good. He's a nice guy. And then I, I never thought I was going to be in TV and everything. And then I, I did my first bed. I was like, I was so nervous. And then I did the second one and the third one. And then after they asked me like, Ed, listen, you should be working for us and everything. I was like, oh my god. All right. I was like, wow, this is a dream come true. Like, this is, this, you know, it's never happened all the time. I go, like, this is like in the movie, you know what? And I, I'm blessed. And I think God that I took the job, you know, it was, it was real good. When did it, when did it, like, click for you that like, I don't know if you ever felt like imposter syndrome or anything. But like, when did you feel like, wow, like, I'm kind of cozy in this space now. I'm secure with this career that I've kind of just like fell in my lap almost. You know what? The first year, like in 2003, I think I got comfortable, like in December when I was like, wow, you know what? I can do this. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm happy. I'm enjoying it. I'm making good money. I'm like, I can buy good presents for my family, for my mom, my wife, my, you know, like, I think, I think I like it. It's good and everything, you know? When I checked cleared. Yeah. I was like, wow, this check is good and everything is good. And the best thing is like, a lot of people may follow me because I was like, before I start working on the show, I swear, God, this is a true story. I didn't know what was a gluten-free, organic, all that things. I didn't know that. And now, like, everyone in the show is like, I don't know if I'm allowed to say this, but I'm one of the, I think I'm the only spanning in the show. In like 2020, people and everyone is like, oh, yeah, let's go get a, let's go get a green juice. Let's go get a, let's go get a, like, let's go get grab lunch. Oh, yeah. And they're like counting the calories and they're like, oh, yeah, oh, yeah. Look, this bread is gluten-free. And I'm like, what the hell is gluten-free? Have they put you on a Pilates yet? In marcha? No, not yet. I didn't know. Everybody's usually, everybody's like, you should do Pilates too. Yeah. I'm like, oh, get you. Do it. It's real hard. I see people are like, you got to be flexible. You got to be like a good shape to do it. And in marcha, my wife drinks marcha, I haven't tried it. But now you know what's so funny? Now when I go get a drink, this is crazy. I go like, yeah, I can't help, I'll try latte with soy milk please. I'm like, what the hell? I'm like, I used to drink black coffee and now I'm like, I'm drinking a
I'm trying to laugh at all. So I'm like, oh, what the hell is that? - He's dairy free. - Yeah, but I'm like, it's a blessing. I'm like, oh my God, you know, thank God, you know, it's good, it's thank God, you know. - What was that conversation like with your wife when you first told her? - Oh, you know what, okay, so when I told my wife, I say, honey, I still remember, that's a good question. I still remember, and I say, honey, you know what, they offered me this to be in the job. In the show, everything. And she goes, oh, well, what do you think? I say, I wanna, I wanna do it. And she goes, but are you sure you're gonna be good? Are you sure like, you know, like, look at you, you're like, overweight, you know what I mean? Like, he a little bit overweight. Maybe they're looking for like, I go like, I know you're funny and everything. I said, honey, listen, I'm gonna do it. I don't lose, I don't lose anything. I do it, and it doesn't work. I get paid, and that's it. And I have some operator. Yeah, and then, but then my wife, when she start like, like, see, I go like, oh wow, this is good to you. Do you, are great, I say, yeah, thank God. Yeah, and then when I start like, okay, listen, now we're gonna go, now we're gonna go get a manicure and I'll put it here together. Like, oh my God. There's gotta be parts where you're starting to enjoy though. Those little like, I don't know, the finer things are, I don't know, those little bougie things. I started liking it too. Actually, yeah, and what ways have working for Jimmy made you like a little LA soft in ways that maybe you weren't before? You know what, the first time we went to go get a manicure period together, I was like, I was like, wow. I was like, hey, my toes never looked this good before. And my nails, and the lady goes, do you want coloring your nails? And I go like, what? I see you want, you know, like, Brian, like to try. You know, and I was like, a little bit, I was like, and my wife said, yeah, do it. I said, okay, I do it. And I'm like, hey, I like this life. It's getting comfortable. Like, in paper? Yeah. Like, getting pampering. You tired, and I'm like, oh, you're relaxed. And then I, and then the like a week after, my wife said, we should go get a massage. I want a massage. I was like, oh, wow, this is awesome. No, it's been, it's been great. You know, thank God it's been great. Now, like, we need to watch movies on, like, on cable. And like, cable. I was like, wow, on pay-per-view on the man. And I was like, wow, this is awesome. This is great. So sick. Yeah, this is fantastic. Guillermo, you mentioned before when you left Dancing with the SARS that had you made it to dedication that you would have dedicated that night to Jimmy. That would have been obviously fun to see it. I'm sure you guys would have made us laugh while also like tearing on our hard strings. But I'm just curious, like, just what hasn't meant to you that, you know, Jimmy gave you this opportunity. And you guys obviously have become close over the years, not only colleagues, but friends. I had, you know, long time ago, I had a brief moment with Jimmy when I did a bit with him for ABC The Bachelor. And he was more than anyone I met in that experience. He like took me aside and really made me feel like a person because he was just trying to give me, he was like, he like took my mic off. And he's like, you don't have to get married. You know, he was like telling me like, you like don't let Hollywood ruin your life. And you know, at the time I was thinking, I know, I know Jimmy, but he didn't know who I was and he knew the pressures. And it was just so obvious that he just cared about me as a human being and he had never met me. Anyways, I'm just curious like, obviously, I'm sure you've felt that effects of Jimmy over the years. And could you just speak on your relationship that you've developed with him? You know what, Jimmy is the best. He always like, if I have questions as Jimmy and everything, he's always told me, you know, like be, be, stay the way you are, be humble, be nice, you know, be respect people and everything and always be like, be careful, you know, you're blessed. So, you know, always be nice with people. And he's great, he's fantastic. And about the dedication I would like, yeah, you know what, if I pass next week is one of his favorite musician is Hugh Lewis in the news. And I say, oh, yeah, we pass, we're gonna dance tango, tango and we are gonna dedicate to Jimmy. And I told Whitney, I say, and we should dance the power of love, you know, with Hugh Lewis in the news. As a power of love, that's good. And I was like, when they announced, the couple that is going home and they announced my name, like, oh my God, I feel like, oh my God, I feel bad, you know, but talk to Jimmy and she said, I'm proud of you. You did it, you did a good job. You make so many people happy. So many people was like watching the show to see you and everything. And you just being yourself makes a lot of people great. - Can I pitch you an idea to pitch to Jimmy? - Yeah. - Not that like they need any ideas. But what if you were Whitney on an upcoming episode where Jimmy came alive, you do your dedication, you dance for Jimmy to the power of love. Maybe even Hughie Lewis can come out and do a cameo. - You know what, I'm gonna tell them, I said listen, I'm gonna tell them that you told me that I did everything and hopefully we do it and we do it, we're gonna give you credit for that. - I don't even need the credit, but I think it would be hilarious. And I think Whitney would be amazing. - Whitney, obviously we love her. We've had her on the show before. She's such a delight. What was it like to dance with Whitney through this experience? - You know what, Whitney was great because when I met her, we were practicing dancing and everything and she, and she just looked at me and I said, Whitney, I know what you're thinking. I know it's gonna think a lot of work. It's gonna be hard, but it's gonna be a lot of work. And then after like a couple days, three days, she told me, listen, you rehearsal, you practicing, everything made me laughs every time we rehearse. So we, you know, it's fun doing dancing with you. You know, it's fun, it's great, you know what I mean? I'll like, thank you Whitney, and like, I'm trying my best to learn, but she was great. She's fantastic. - I thought you got her, she posted like the gift that you got her post dancing. Did you, who helped you pick that out? Or did you do it all by yourself? - That was my wife, because my wife said, you know what, I got to pick her, I gave her her because she's been so nice. And she was the perfect partner that I could have because she put everything together, like, like with Dance the Pina colada, she say, what do you want to write? And you belly and I say, well, I'm dancing for the people, you know what I mean? Let's do it. - Coconut. - Yeah, the coconut, yeah, that was her idea. And I go like, that was her idea. And I go, okay, when I put in my belly, dancing for the people go, yeah, sure, that's great. So she was, she was, she was fantastic. - Are you aware, like, it seems like you are like, you're conscientious of like, you're, we call it aura. Like, are you aware of that? Like, I remember even just being in the room with you, the first, whatever, those weeks where that we got to interview the, the stars of the show. And like, you have a gravity to you. Are you aware of that? Like, when you walk around rooms? - I, I realize that, like, wherever I go, like, people like, I just say, hi guys, and everybody, how you doing here? But, you know, like, because I just been, been myself, you know, like, you know, I've been nice with everybody talking everything. And people love to be around me and everything. And I've been getting a lot of texts. Like, I got a text from Connor, Esra, and Harry, Tyler, it told me, dude, dancing with the stars, not the same without you, we miss you. And every day, let's have, let's do lunch together. And I think we're gonna do, I think we're gonna have a lunch this weekend. - That's awesome. - Yeah. - It's so fun. You're on salsa brand, Guillermo Salsa. What made you wanna do that? - Salsa is simple, you know, it's nothing too hard. Like, for business, something, it's easy also to put, to sell it in the stores and everything. And I say, you know what? This salsa can be, it can be a good business. When, when I, I pass away, this business can be for my son and my wife, you know? And it's, and so far, Guillermo Salsa is the best. You can buy it, you can try it, it's so good. - It's spicy, how spicy? - But we have it, we have a median, mile and spicy. - That's what I'm talking about. - Yeah, we have it. So in case, you know, like, in case some people don't eat the spicy, you know, like, you know? - Ain't habanero in there? - Yeah, we put habanero in there. - Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. - Yeah, we put habanero and it's good. It's real good. You should guys, you should try it. - Was it intentionally to be like a pun with the dance with the stars, like the salsa dance? - You know what? That one, yes, hit the spot because when they, they told me, "Oh, we launched the salsa in January and everything." And when they told me, "Oh, you wanna do dancing with the stars?" And I'm like, "You don't wanna, all right, this time I do it." And then with the salsa and everybody's like, "Oh, Guillermo Salsa, you gotta dance salsa "in dancing with the stars." And you can talk about your own salsa too. - It makes sense, like the salsa, the salsa pairing. - Yeah. - I was at a restaurant in LA called Taco Lina last night. It was my first tacos in LA as a LA resident. Do you have any, like, local spots I need to hit? - Oh, you want. - Our Mexican food out here is crazy. - I go to Casa Vega, they have great margaritas too. - Okay, where, okay, where, yeah. - What's the Mexican restaurant we were like next to? - Casa Vega, he was just talking about that. - Not also Casa Vega, but the one, you know, on Beverly, it's right by word dance with the star. - Esquela. - Esquela. - Esquela. - Oh, yeah, Esquela is good too, yeah. It's real good. - Why are the margaritas good? Is there like a lot of tequila in it or? - They do have a lot of tequila and they make, like, they make mango margaritas, strawberry, any kind of margaritas you want. Oh my God. There are, you like Moscow?
I like Ms. Cod too. You like the, what's a cut of heel? - Cut of heel, yeah. - Yeah, that was my favorite. - Oh, cut of heel, yeah. - Oh my gosh. - Every time I, we go out dinner with the family, my wife, all of a cut of heel is, and she goes, you wanna try it, and it's so good. - They're the best, oh my goodness. - It's like a Martinez press, you know? - Yeah, it's like a espresso martini, but if it was born in Mexico. - Yeah, Guillermo, what was your favorite dance that you did during your time on Dancing with the Stars? - Oh, boy, I think my favorite one was the pinia colara. That one, that was great. That was like, I think that was my favorite one. That was good when I, I think I did real good, and I show everybody who I'm dancing for, and that's it for the people. And that one, I nailed it, I did good. Also, the last one too, salsa. The last one, when I, they sent me home, that was real good too. That one, I nailed it, I did have a hard time learning, but the samba was hard, samba was real hard. - You talk a lot about how you're dancing for the people. What do you hope the people take away from watching you dance? - When I dance, I say, so people can see that it's not, of course, you gotta take a serious, but also you gotta have fun with it, and you gotta enjoy, you know what I mean? It's like you drop. Like if you have a job, you have an interview, you gotta love doing this, you know what I mean? And that's what I like. You know what I'm gonna go in, of course, I gotta smile or throw a kiss to the audience, you know, go in like this and everything, and the people were like, they were amazing, they felt like that I was trying hard. I was maybe another best dancer, but I was trying hard, and I was doing my best, you know what I mean? - You clearly had to step outside of your comfort zone and expose yourself to a new art form that's like could be kind of vulnerable. So as a fan, just watching, it's inspiring. It's encouraging to want to just like take that risk, and like you said, when I interviewed you, just do it. - You know what, just do it. I was like, it's hard because every part of my body hurt, it was crazy that my legs, my shoulder, my back, but you know what, I did it, I have fun. I'm glad I said, you know what, I'm glad I did it, and they want me to, they want me like to go back and do something for them and everything. I was like, yeah, sure, I'll do it, you know what I mean? - Yeah, you got to. So I became familiar with you. I came up as a basketball player. I played Ohio State, played professionally overseas, and you went viral in the basketball community when you started chasing around LeBron at NBA All-Star. - Oh my God, you know what? The first time LeBron James made it to the final, I wanted to talk to him, you know? I would say, hey, LeBron, how are you, how you doing? Can I talk to you, can I interview you? And he'd look at me and he'd go, no man, you're going to make fun of me. I said, I'm not going to make fun of you. I just, I'm going to ask a couple questions, you know what I mean? Like, he was like avoiding you. - Yeah, he was avoiding me until now, he doesn't talk to me, you know? (laughing) - No, why does he not talk to you? - He goes, listen, you're going to make fun of me, man. LeBron, I'm just going to ask a question. So what is the question? I said, LeBron, when you take a shower, do you wash your legs? (laughing) You know what I mean? - I mean, maybe he doesn't want to be asked about if he washes his legs or not. - Yeah, Roy, you've obviously like, you know, your story's so great because you come from these humble beginnings, but like as far as your job, you get to hang out and engage with some of the biggest celebrities in the world. You've had Taylor Swift stroke your mustache. You've got some kiss, Meghan Fox, Andy Garcia, like was your doppelganger when it was the IHA Jimmy Kimmel episode, which is Andy Garcia, a very handsome man, was playing you. What has been some of the cooler moments that you've had to experience that like, you're like, I can't believe I'm doing this. - You know what, I love sports. So when I met Kobe Bryant, and I was like, I was like, it was that NBA media day, it was the finals. And they closed, they were, they were done, but Kobe Bryant was over there. I say, hey, Kobe's over there. We missed Kobe. He goes, oh no, he was busy doing interviews. And I say, Kobe, how you doing? And his bodyguards told me he's done, he's done. We finished. And Kobe Bryant said, yeah, Guillermo, come over here. Let him through. I want to talk to him. And I say, Kobe, I love you, man. I say, he was so nice, Kobe Bryant was so nice. The same thing when I met Tom Brady, when I met Tom Brady, I was like, oh my God, the goat. I was like, Tom Brady, oh my God. You're the best Tom Brady. We follow you. And everyone's like, he's not gonna talk to you. Guillermo was going on. And then I made, I had a pillow with, I make up like this one, look. But I had his face here and my face here. So I said, Tom, can you sign my pillow please? And he's signing, and he goes, what do you want me to put? I said, love for Guillermo, I said, love for Guillermo. And at the time, Tom Brady, now I can go to bed with you every night. [LAUGHTER] It was nice too. And also meeting Charlize Taren. When we do the red carpet at the Oscars, and she gave me a kiss, I was like, oh my God. She's so nice, she's so sweet. Did your wife get jealous, I don't know? No, my wife's like, my wife's like, I told her, listen, honey, if I'm gonna, I'm gonna be, if I'm gonna shoot on you, it will be with Charlize Taren. That's your hall pass. Or Tom Brady. Or Tom Brady, yeah, Tom Brady, yeah. But I said, Charlize Taren, Beyonce, Escalade Johansson, Halle Berry. These are great hall passes. Yeah. Just that's a lot of less. That's a lot of less. Basically, every beautiful celebrity you've had a chance to meet. Yeah, exactly. And actually, all of them, all of them being so nice with me, they're always so nice with me. They're great. And go like, oh, no, yeah, we want a time. Hey, Guillermo, you got tequila. And go, yeah, sure, they're great with me, yeah. I can't tell you this with pet your mustache. You know what, tell us it was so nice with me. She was good and everything, and I like, very nice. I like her a lot. She's good. I love how you're not too cool. You still fan girl out, and you're just like the rest of us, you know? You know what? I think that's what people, the celebrities, and that's what people love, because I just beat myself. Like, I'm a regular guy. I just beat myself, have fun. Enjoying every time I go to sleep, you know? I go like, I pray, and I say, thank you God, this has been like, it's a big blessing. Thank you, and I always been like, nice with people, you know what I mean? I'm assuming like most of your life, you've always been someone that has made people laugh, because you have such a, you know, it seems like such an ease to be funny, you're witty. I don't know. Have you seen, have you seen this recent viral video of Conan on Subway Text, and this woman comes in and just starts like rifting and guess ending with Conan O'Brien in a way that like, is if they were like a comedic duo for years. And clearly, this woman is just like so naturally funny. Like, did you have to work on it? Or is this like, you just always had the gift? No, you know what? Thank God I always have to give. Since I was a little kid. And my grandma always say, you're always funny, because when it was, every time it was my grandma's birthday, I would dance for her, you know, I was a little kid. I was in like 10, 11, 12. I would dance for my grandma and I would like, I would give her like, you know, like, imagine my mic, you know, I would take my shirt and hear grandma and everything. And my grandma would be like, oh my God, I used to funny you the best. And I always tell like jokes and everything. And being around people, I would like always make people laugh, you know? How did you meet your wife? She'd read my mind. Oh, so my wife, I met her in Mexico when we were kids, but we didn't, we didn't date anything like that. And then when I saw her here again, I would like, you know what? I think I'm gonna go, I'm gonna ask her out, you know? And I did. And the first time when I would like, I would like, wow, I was like, I don't think it, I don't think it is working. You know, like, she was like so serious and everything. And then before there was no cell phones, there was not like, we had a patient, we had a beeper before, and she will come in the beeper and everything and she say, you want to go to the movies? I say, oh, good. That was in 2000 and 2000. And we started dating in 2000. We got married in 2001 and until now, you know, we're happy, we have a wonderful son who's 14 and it's been great. - True love. - So you knew each other when you all were kids and then you met again, like you knew each other in Mexico and then you met again in America? - Yeah, I saw her here again. And that's what like, you know, when we were little kids, I used to know who she was, but we never like, hang around, we never like, we're not like friends, you know what I mean, until here. - Wow. - That's crazy. - That is crazy. - I love story. - And what's 26 years later or something like that? What's kept your marriage is successful as it has been? - You want me to be honest? - Please. - Women always try. - Yes, they are. - Yes, they are. - They always try, they're the best. Women are the best that bust you around, that bust you around, but it's for good because they love you and they take care of you. You know what I mean, keep going.
And then I and then I learn the smartest and we're the dumbest for sure. Yeah. And then one thing That you want to be you want to make women happy They love chopping if you buy take take them to chop in by her shoes and everything They would be happy with you all the time. You know what I mean That is so true. Yeah, mom. You're the smartest man alive. I have to say I say Honey, we're going on more. Okay, honey Yeah, we're gonna do this. Okay, you know, all right. I just say yeah sure whatever you want Just go with the flow. Yeah, just go with the flow and you know, and be be happy You know, I mean happy wife happy life attitude gratitude. Yeah It's right But while you were dancing with the stars you were also doing Jimmy came alive and he was also filming in Brooklyn Like what what did that schedule look like and I imagine that must got that must have gotten pretty exhausting Wow listen So that time we went to Brooklyn. It was the time. It was that week that we we had to dance Samba and I told Whitney I said Whitney Because she told me somebody's real hard Guillermo somebody's real hard. You got to move you feet fast. It's quick quick quick and I was like listen We're going to Brooklyn and you have picked a dance that is slow that is easy You know what I and she picked somebody and you I was so tired that week. I was very tired The first rehearsal that I did with a camera blocking I Forgot all the steps I Forgot all the steps and she goes what what's going on? I say Whitney I don't remember the steps. She goes you tired, right? I go like yeah I was tired the day I wake up at 3 in the morning just thinking I was like, okay Right, right and my wife would like go back to sleep. I say honey. I cannot sleep We have like come camera blocking today, and she just go like can you go or sleep in the living room? Please, and I go like so I went to the living room I was so tired and I was like and when I got to the studio come first camera blocking I forgot everything and I was like oh my god So I asked the director I say oh can you give me five minutes and she goes and he goes. Yeah And Whitney said remember this we got it and we did our like practice for 10 minutes and then I went back I I didn't do too good, but you know, it was better than the third time I did I did okay, but when it was life I I did it. You know, I had a I took an energy drink. I took a coke. I was like I got to do this I was falling asleep. I was so tired. I got to do this and and and I did it but but it was so hard It's the hardest job I ever done. Do you think Jimmy should do dancing at the stars? I think she should do it, but I don't think he's gonna be good He's not a good dancer. He's a great guy. You're a better dancer than Jimmy. Yes, by far And I'm not good. I'm not good, but by far I bet that's a thing Dancing is hard. You know if dancing is real hard. It was such a humbling experience and You made it so much fun. Guillermo, we could chat with you all day, but I know you're a busy guy So I want to be respectful of your time, but it's been such a pleasure to have you. Thanks for honoring us by being a guest of the Vol files and Sorry, you couldn't be in the room, but it's it's such an honor to have you on and you were such a great addition of this season of Dancing with the Stars and just keep doing what you're doing and thanks for being So funny and entertaining, but also just like a great example of no matter where you go You can you never have to change who you are. So I appreciate you buddy Thank you very much guys anytime anytime guys. Thank you so much. It's been nice for you. Thank you. Guillermo. Thank you But I was great hearing all about your salsa. Where can people find it? Where can they go to order it? You can buy it in raw. You can buy it in Coast School. You can buy it at S.E.M. Target Yeah, we worldwide maybe Alright, he's going big Little by little to try a Guillermo. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thanks buddy. Thank you Alright, everyone. Thank you. Take care Well, that will do it for today's episode. Thank you to all our guests Erica from Love is Blind in Guillermo from Jimmy Kimmel Live We appreciate them. We appreciate all of you for listening. We'll see you back tomorrow. Bye-bye You
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The hosts reflect on personal life changes, like moving to LA and forming deeper bonds with pets and family through shared hardships.
Nick and Jimmy share a growing connection through watching the Milwaukee Brewers’ baseball games, turning it into a meaningful shared ritual despite distance.
The Stanford Prison Experiment episode is analyzed as a metaphor for parenting, illustrating how competing authority figures can damage children’s trust and create conflict.
The hosts discuss how real-life parenting dynamics mirror the experiment, emphasizing the importance of unity, consistency, and avoiding power struggles between caregivers.
Erica from *Love Is Blind* shares her journey, highlighting how her openness about divorce helped her build confidence and emotional strength in new relationships.
A major tension in the pods involves Blake’s emphasis on a boat lifestyle versus Erica’s need for routine and stability, revealing underlying fears of loss of control.
The hosts explore how reality TV often exaggerates emotional dynamics, with moments of intimacy and conflict being edited to create dramatic tension.
Guillermo’s story from *Dancing with the Stars* showcases how unexpected opportunities led to personal growth, including learning about wellness, comfort, and self-worth.
Summary:
The episode blends personal storytelling with deep reflections on relationships, parenting, and life transitions. Nick and Jimmy share heartfelt memories of bonding through life challenges, including surviving in LA, caring for pets, and forming emotional connections through shared love of the Milwaukee Brewers’ baseball games. A central theme is the importance of unity in parenting, illustrated through the Stanford Prison Experiment as a metaphor for how competing authority figures—like parents—can erode trust and create conflict in children’s lives.
The discussion extends to real-life parenting challenges, such as maintaining consistency and avoiding favoritism. Erica from *Love Is Blind* opens up about her journey post-divorce, emphasizing how transparency about her past helped her build confidence and emotional resilience in new relationships. The show highlights the tension between career ambitions—like Blake’s boat lifestyle—and personal stability, revealing deep-seated fears of losing control.
The hosts also examine how reality TV distorts emotional truths, often amplifying drama through editing. Finally, Guillermo’s story underscores how unexpected opportunities can lead to personal growth, from dancing to wellness habits, illustrating how small moments of joy and connection—like getting a manicure or enjoying a massage—can transform one’s sense of self and well-being. The episode concludes with a celebration of resilience, authenticity, and the quiet power of shared experiences.
FAQs
Guillermo was initially asked to join the show by Jimmy, who saw his humor and potential. After a chance encounter during a security shift, Jimmy proposed him for the show, and Guillermo agreed after discussing it with his wife, who supported the idea.
Guillermo was nervous and unsure at first, thinking it was a lot of work and not something he’d succeed at. He didn’t expect to become a household name or have a long-term career in entertainment.
Guillermo learned about trends like gluten-free diets, Pilates, and green juices, which were unfamiliar to him before. He found these concepts surprising and eventually embraced them, even adopting new habits like drinking soy milk and trying a massage.
His wife was initially concerned about his weight and whether he’d be good at the job, but after seeing his confidence and enthusiasm, she became supportive and even suggested they try new experiences like manicures and massages.
Jimmy provided emotional support and guidance, encouraging Guillermo to stay true to himself. He emphasized being humble, kind, and respectful, and affirmed that Guillermo was blessed to have the opportunity.
It helped Guillermo become more confident, enjoy a more relaxed lifestyle, and develop new hobbies like pampering himself with massages and manicures, which he previously didn’t consider.
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