E1204 - Maks & Peta Talk DWTS, Love Is Blind Premiere, Kelly Clarkson Updates & RHONY

I didn't put on deodorant this morning. I'm starting to stink. So I put some on her. Oh my god. I can't relate. What's going on? Well, yeah, I was in between that's crazy. Yeah. Hey, what's going on, everybody? Welcome to another fantastic episode of the Volphiles Reality recap edition. I'm your host, Nick Joyne by my just really fantastic, incredible joy of my life, wife, Natalie Joy. How are you? I'm doing great. We had our first this morning river crash out. I don't want to go to school. Oh, I want to hear more about the tantrum. So I was so close to being like, just stay home, but she has been out of school. She was on a fall break. And then they were out of school on Monday for the holiday. And it's just been it's been a long couple of days. You know what I'm saying? And so I was like, you got to go to school. But there was a big crash out. Yeah, she woke up a couple of times last night and was kind of crying. She said the cutest thing. She was like, we say like, let's get cozy. You know, when we want to cuddle and she was like, duh, I want to get cozy with you. So then I woke up and I was like, all right, because you know, usually she's really excited about schools, like you excited for school and right off the jump. She's like, no, I want to stay home at my house today. And she was like, it wasn't like, you can change her mind pretty quickly with some kind of gas lighting manipulation. But she was steadfast. And she was like, I don't think it helped that I ran into the room at 7 a.m. and was like, 7 a.m., like, we've got to get ready, we got running late already. And she was like, no. And then from there, it was just downhill. The outfit, the shoes, the hair, all of it was just then I finally to get her in the car. I had to call her teacher. I did. I had to be a liar. I had a car teacher. And I was like, hi, River, like, isn't really feeling like coming to school today and shoot. And then I go, wait, you have a horse in your classroom? Are you? The best part was 30 minutes before that. Natalie would try a version of that, but she didn't have her phone on her. And Natalie goes like this, and River goes, mom, your phone's in the other room. This is bullshit. I mean, she didn't say the bullshit part, but she said everything else. Yeah, she was like, she clocked the shit out. And then it goes, no, she has an earpiece. We're just a bunch of liars. Anyway, welcome, Sierra. Welcome back. How are you? You've been busy booking busy, but welcome back. How are you? Thank you. I'm good. I have a little bit of news. I am hosting a maximum competition. I was just in one past summer. So I'm hosting a culinary passport competition for maximum, which has been awesome. What is that? Culinary passport. So it's for people who consider themselves taste makers, people who love to experience great food, talk about it, share it, recommend it. So, you know, in my Instagram, I like to go to restaurants, do the whole write-up, take the photos, the content. So essentially, it's a competition based around that. And the winner will get 25k, a trip to Italy, and get to go to five Michelin star restaurants. So yeah. Do you get to go no matter what? No, I wish. But honestly, just even that again, being part of the maximum in my, or me, is just huge. So yeah. So you're a taste maker, too though. I have a taste maker. I like to think we are not a taste maker at all. You're too picky. Yeah, I've been to a French restaurant with you. Listen, I was thinking about this this morning when I was making breakfast. I get it. Like I'm particular. I like what I like, but I'm confident when I say that like the things I like, everyone fucks with. Like it's good. That's true. No, you like it. I second that. Yeah. I don't think a lot of things are good in this world. I just, I don't. I don't like it. You know, I'm not one of those people. It's like, it's all great. Like mostly it's not. Yeah, you're not down to like the culinary experience. Mostly it's not. You would be like, yeah, sure. I'll take that, but I want it super modified. Yeah. So it's limited. It's a limited series. It's very defined, but it's all fucking awesome. There you go. I'm going to run every every date restaurant idea. You tell me if it's a good spot or not. I've got a friend in Paris right now that I just recommended that she's going out to a restaurant. In Paris. So you know crazy ball. She's a world traveler. The Kelly Clarkson video is out. We must discuss everyone's discussing. First of all, this is this is great. I just like this. Wait, Mira, are you you're up to date? I know that the Twitter beef and everything. I didn't know that there was a video. What does it fail? Well, shout out Pablo. What's the show? Publatory finds out, but he's now he's investigating LeBron James. And I don't know how I feel about that, but let's just. Why is he? Oh, yeah, because the fanatics helicopter and he's trying to see you doing a cap circumvention run around. I agree, but Pablo just needs to relax. Anyways, so there was this creator who found the security footage from inside the store. And they released it. And so they show that she walks into the store. She looks around. She goes over to a shelf. She picks up something to play with, which there's a bunch of signs all over the store being like pick it up, play with it, touch it, enjoy it, whatever. So she's not breaking any rules there. And then you see her walk up to the bird. She then calls over the sales associate, this man, he comes over. There's a lot of pointing, a lot of pointing back and forth. And then she walks away. And kind of comes back, puts her things out, goes to the door, turns, says a couple more things, walks out. As soon as she walks out, she takes out her phone. And she was in the store for a total of like four minutes, I think. And so that is the extent. Yeah, the whole experience last less than five months. Yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, this felt like a like a whole thing like we had people coming in. At the end, you could see enough of body language where she looks visibly annoyed. And you could tell other people in the store store are noticing there's like a little bit of intensity, a little bit, right? And I bet Kelly Clarks isn't going to put up with any like, well, should or anything that she feels like she's feeling disrespected about. So it probably didn't take much or wasn't going to let it linger if you just like, all right, I'm out. Now he's going to hate this. And all the Kelly Clarks and stands, this, this is, I saw this on X and this to me is the most a like honest take that I feel like makes a lot of sense. If you're a public figure of any kind, do you lose the privilege to complain in general about the finer things in life or the first role of problems, right? That like, you know, at the end of the day, most of us like it to experience. But sometimes even experiencing first role problem, if you get wrong, we want to like, argue about it. We want to stand up for ourselves. If you're a public figure of any kind, is it an abuse of power? Because I think that's the like, the real question is like, I like, like, you tell Kelly felt wronged and I empathize with that like, fucked upness. Okay. What did you read on Twitter? I hear you though, like, is that the trade off? There was a tweet. The best I can tell is that Kelly Clarkson walked into this Brooklyn storm and inquired about a fake bird in between helping a ton of other people. They told her the bird was not for sale. But here's the artist info. He sells them for about $15,000. In the meantime, here's a $2,000 bird they do offer, which Clarkson took to mean. You can't afford our bougie bird that costs as much as a baby grand piano here. This is a pathetic $2,000 knockoff, which I think that's what, yeah. You think this girl like knows what the hell was going on there? No, but I think her point is it's like, we're talking about rich people. And at the end of the day, you have Kelly Clarkson, a celebrity who's obviously done very well for herself. But like the person who can open a store in Brooklyn of a bunch of like random fucking a store of curiosity. It's our curiosity. Definitely most likely comes from money. Like, it's just like, we're talking about a $15,000 piece of wood. And then the knockoff is $2,000, which only rich people could even consider paying $2,000 for like a knockoff bird. Like, yeah. And the point is what's your question? I don't have a question. I just disagree with this. Yeah, no, I knew you would. I understand. But why? Well, also like the owner coming out and being like, Kelly Clarkson has put us in danger. Shut up. Just shut up. Everyone is rushing to your store to see this damn bird. And now your store is packed. What I don't get either where I'm like, if this was part of a music show or whatever for your show, why have the price tag next to the bird that invites people who would want to buy it to inquire about it? If you've ever been to like an art gallery, they'll have the price next to the art, but some things might. For sale. You know, I understand. But it does, it does make sense that it might say not, you know, not for sale. They wouldn't have the price or inquire with it. Yeah, like this is valued at this, but it's actually not for sale. You go into a furniture store and so many of them are like, you think, Oh, there's furniture here. I can take home furniture. And they're like, no, you got to order it online. It's not for sale. They have a whole showroom of furniture. I can't buy with price tags. And it pisses me the fuck off because it's like, I came into my account and you're telling, like, you don't have it. I have to order it. It's in bond with what? I hear that. I hear that. I hear that. That's happened to me when like they bring out like a medium at like Lululem or something, but like the mannequin is wearing the medium. And it's like, yo, just take the shirt off, the fucking mannequin. They're like, can't do that. Well, I can't, well, I can't, but they definitely have price tags, which is the guy left in this day. But, well, I mean, at the same time, you can still buy, you just don't get it the same day. You know, listen, and he's saying that this guy was not for sale with a $15,000 price tag back to it. Thank you. You put a sticker over it. If you don't want to sell the bird, I don't know this guy. I haven't done a background on him. Maybe he has a, a, a, a sad story worthy of the bachelor franchise where he's like, this happened to me. And, but he's almost certainly, again, the person who can open this store with a bunch of friends, like, has money to blow, you know what I'm saying? Like they just, that's not a, but they'll put things in your store of oddities that you don't want people to inquire about to buy. Not that I necessarily am on the side of the shop owner, but just to marry the shop owner. I just feel like we need to have an even argument. He said that a lot of the employees are being like harassed and stuff. And that's where, like online and whatever in their phones are blowing up. They've never had this happen before. And that's where he's saying Kelly Clarkson has put his all in danger. Mary has a slight, listen, mostly, yeah, is mostly the internet is bullshaded. It's a bunch of like people just shouting off. But like we've just gotten to a place where like, I don't know, I don't think there are crazy fucking people out there. But he also was saying that like Kelly Clarkson put his all in danger. It's a gross, abusive misuse of power. It's that vein. He's being very dramatic. But I love that though, like the thing is like it's shut. It's the silliest beef in the world. Yes. It's so funny. To answer to answer Nick's original question, like if this is part of the territory of like what comes to being a celebrity and famous, like, is that the trade off? I low-key think. Yeah. Yeah. No. Listen, there are to rise above that. We have infamously talked about some of our airlines. We were the carons of there for like, first of all, it was just meant to be like a funny anecdote. Like, hey, content. I don't want too many, I guess. I felt whatever. But like when you think about it, yeah, it was like the point of being caring is like we, we all like should happens to us, right? And like we feel wrong. And it might be true. But the end of the day, like big picture, you get the fuck over it. And in that moment, you're not over it. Whatever reaction we have, like these, these are the fucking genes, but the zipper broke whatever that whole like story I told. And like the thing I related to that video is like, I remember just like, again, like I bought a pair of expensive jeans, I had to justify that price. I just wanted quality. The next day, I'm like, it broke. I'm like, can I just get ones that work? And they're like, fuck you. Not exactly. So I felt genuinely wrong, but I'm talking to this guy and I kind of realized this is, I'm making a scene. Like, you know, this is becoming a thing. And it's just like the people around you, like when you make something a thing that's like over something they don't need to care about. Like everyone else is just like, fuck you, you know, like that's human, like that's cool. But I think to take it to the internet where you're aware of your platform and like the weight of your words and how like you can actually influence people and like ruin a small business, like that's when it's like just supposed to take the hype. I just wish that some like comedian or someone could make like a TV show playing a fake version of themself where they are an asshole to everyone around. This is an SNL opportunity. This is going to happen on Saturday. I mean, it's just kind of a curb episode in real life. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure, sure. I just love how like unrelatable it is. Like Kelly Clarkson. So successful. So rich that it's just like, I can't buy they won't let me buy a $15,000 bird. So they suggested a 2000. You're calling me poor. And just like, but the crash out is relatable. The crash out. Yeah. The crash out is cool every now and then like sometimes you got to let all some steam better out than in, but just don't take it to the grand. I want to see it on the gram. I want to see your crash out. I'm obsessed with that. It makes me love Kelly Clarkson more that she was like, you know what? I'm pissed off and you're going to hear that I'm pissed off. Almost certainly. We've all watched pretty woman. We'd love it. Like we all in that moment fantasize. I wonder if one day I'll be like rich enough to walk in one of these stores and look fucking poor and just have someone judge me only for me to be able to go fuck you. I can do that shit. And like, I wonder if like something in her childhood, you know, like her therapist, like her childhood self came out. And in that moment was like, this is kind of awesome. I love it. You know, mistake. Huge. Right? Right. Like we all watched that scene of Julia Roberts and we were like, yes, you icon you like we all wanted to be her. And the best part is no one's asking for anyone to go to jail. And Molly's now on cell for 15 million. I can't live at the store. That's the best part. You know what? No. That's what I love for that. You put the bird on cell for 15 million like real penny like I love it. Another reason I was for sale again. He's almost certainly an apple, baby. Oh, yeah. This is a story. No, she's continuing this for cloud. I think it would have been. It would have ended if you'd have been like, you know what? Yeah. But he saw, he saw. But it's not every day that Kelly Clarkson want to put you on blast. So like, I'm going to take it and run with it. Yeah. I do think if Kelly Clarkson wants to put them on the map, she does have to row with the punches. What are the punches? When you, when you acknowledge someone, you give them access to you. And like, you know, that's part of the, like she opened, she opened the door. She, she answered the DM so to speak, you know, and now this person, like, she opened the Pandora's box of the Brooklyn Audities shop. I think the 15 million is proving Kelly Clarkson's point. Now he's like, now none of you bitches can afford it. It's like that. He's literally like writing it to your point. And what's why you're right is at the end of the day, this is a question of, who would you rather hang out with? Kelly Clarkson. And the answer is 100% Kelly Clarkson. You can't hang out with the mechanical bird. Not Kelly. That's my option. Yeah. No. I want to hear you sing. I don't want to talk to either of you. I have a lot of the, the NEPO baby store owner is not a bad guy to have in your corner though. Not a bad guy to have in the friend group. Like, Kelly could be like, like the main character of the group, but like, have him buddy. He's got balls. He's got balls. Yeah. He's got balls. You kind of need a guy like that in your corner. He'll send back your food for you. He's not, he's not afraid of fight fire with fire. I love you so one. All right. Well, enough about Kelly Clarkson, but we do, we do love this story. Jimmy was at Dancing with the Stars last night. Really fun episode. Obviously works. I did talk about. We have Max and Peter coming up later this episode to hear all their opinions and just really get in the nitty-gritty of the whole Dancing with the Stars experience. We also have a great time just having fun with them talking about their upcoming tour as well as parenting. So I can't wait for you to hear that conversation with Max and Peter. But again, Jimmy was at Dancing with the Stars and had an opportunity to talk to many of the contestants. But Jimmy, to take it away, how was it about your night? Yeah. It was a gas. We got to talk to everybody. Had a lot of fun, but also got to kind of peel back the layers of like the dances specifically. Like everybody had cool things to say specifically as it pertains to our conversation with Max, his little brother Val. It was cool to ask them what they thought about the judges weighing in on how they couldn't really decipher who the Star Wars was, who the Pro was. And we got a cool clip of that. Val was kind of like disrespected by it, but like it was just really cool to just talk to them about their experience with the, was that the salsa or the pasta doble, they just crushed that. Yeah, they did. Here's the clip. The judges said they couldn't tell who the, who the Star was, who the Pro was. And I said, no, no, no, no, no, this is the Pro. This respect. This respect. This is the Pro. There's no questioning in my mind. Trust me. I am learning these dances from scratch every single week, feeling terrified. And somehow he is the amazing Val that he is. The Pro that he is gets me to a place where I feel like I can get out there and do it, but my first day, it's always rough. I'm like, wait, this is a different thing. I'm not used to moving like this. Do you feel like you're starting to separate yourself from the pack? Maybe like it's starting to kind of look that way as an audience. No. I don't know. You mean by that? Don't be tempted. Also, no. Knock on wood. Hold on. I'm Rufia too. Just the tiny, but you know, superstitious over here. But that was, that was, that was funny. We're honestly like super personal. You were trying to start trauma. But do we have so many cool conversations? And then like, speaking of like the trauma, Tatiana and Jan, it was so funny to watch a Tatiana like step in with her PR training the audience, our fans picked up on that as well because the judges were like, are we going to see you bring something strong in the next week? And Jan was just kind of like, we did a salsa that wasn't supposed to be strong. That was jokes and so the clip you're about to watch is him detailing that. Are you going to bring something stronger, powerful into next week? God, the last. What kind of question is that? Honestly, I don't know. I don't know. It's hard to answer questions about next week when you've just finished. And I'm not there yet. Because your whole body, your mind, your spirit, everything is consumed in this one minute moment. So up there, you're like, what is next week? I don't even know what day it is. All I'm thinking about, breathe in, breathe out, you know, I'm tired. What am I going to ever dinner after this? Don't ask me anything, but I'm not there. What a dumb question. I think I'm loving, like, not like them breaking character, but just like seeing who they really are. Like, for whatever reason, like whenever I'm talking to them, it just feels like I'm just talking like one of their homies, like even with Connor Wood, like we were talking about the go-t and he's just like, yeah, I just had some fun back in the dressing room playing with like the makeup team and stuff. So that's not a real go-t? No. You're glued on. You're glued on. You're glued on. We got the clip if you want to see him talk about it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Pull that out. I thought he was like, oh, I'm going to try having a girl this shit out and have some fun with it. Dude, I had the same thought. I thought he was trolling me at first. No. This was glue. I want to ask about the go-t so bad, brother. Give me the inspiration of the go-t. Was it Jacobalority? Dude, come on. No. I'm not even going to, no. I've got stuff to Jacobalority that's just setting myself up for failure. The same reason I want to take a picture right next to Tyler Cameron because it's like give me two people between us, please, that's not fair. The inspiration was I go into the hair and makeup trailer and I see all these unused hairs and I'm like those should go to a safe and loving home on my chin and so I like to take advantage. These people are such professionals and so talented. Do me up. You want to have fun with it? That's incredible. So cute. I love that. I honestly thought I was like, oh, kind of group, I see. Yeah. And then we got, we had a bunch of cool conversations about the dances themselves. To speaking to Tyler, we were talked to him about the super powerful lift that they did and whether they're intentionally leaning into what he's capable of doing, given how athletic and strong he is. But Sharna had something interesting to say about how they're trying to thread that needle of leaning into what he's capable of doing but also show that he's growing as an actual dancer and here's the clip of that. Talk about the preparation. That was an insane lift. Are we trying to lean into like the atrix and like what he's capable of doing? I mean, why not? Because like no one else can do them but also not leaning on them. You know, we only had that one big one and then we had one like really lyrical jazz type of lift. But yeah, like I wanted him to dance his ass off this week and he did but we did have one pretty amazing lift. They did dance or ass off. I love that. Surviving events. I'm so excited for dedication week next week. I think it's going to be so good. I also got to talk to Tyler about like what it meant to him to have Joe Buck call a performance that might not have been the Super Bowl like he dreamed of playing in but just what that was like for him to have Joe Buck announcing nonetheless. You know, I feel that was pretty cool. So I was really cool. Here's thoughts on that. Here's the clip of that. And what was that like having Joe Buck get to call not a game but a dancer performance nonetheless. You know, I thought, you know, my dream was to have him call me on the football field on the grid iron, but you know, on the ballroom floor is also an amazing dream come true. He was incredible. He was hilarious. I mean, the jokes he made and he ricked her walk so you could run like everything was just amazing or crawl. Whatever it is. Yes. You knew like you knew Joe Buck, you know, they he introduced his wife in the beginning of the show. Like guarantee like they're dancing. She was giving them notes and like being like, all right, you got to I guarantee his wife was a big help to his performance. But he was great. I mean, I I didn't have dreams of playing the NFL. I wasn't even at that point, but like Joe Buck as an icon and as an NFL fan, like that would it. That had been so cool to be able to meet him and have him critique his performance. So he wasn't critiquing much and he was like everything's amazing. But still, I don't know what this possible is, but I love to watch it. But I love that. I love that. We're getting an audience reaction and then you know, he was always like bumping everyone to score up a point. I love it. It was great. Yeah, that was dope. But my personal favorite interview, maybe Guillermo was just because it was so sad to see him go and he said something super sweet to the audience about just like getting outside your comfort zone. But when we talk to Amber, who is just crushing it in her own right about who Amber is, what she had to say about that was was really cool. She's just trying to embody like a side of her that she never got to experience or live out as a child. So here's the clip of that. I want to hear about Amber. Amber. Talks about Amber. Amber was one I thought he said Emma last week and that's why I was confused. I was like, oh me, me. And so that was just, I was surprised. And yeah, that was just me going at it and having a great time. It's the version of me that does go out to a club because the actual version of me stays home and please imagine gathering and like chills at home and does dance, you know, rehearsal. And so it was just this version of me that got to really just enjoy like a party. She's awesome. Yeah, she's also fantastic. Oh, yeah. The split. It's just such a competitive competition that like you're almost like, oh, just another, you know, like Ezra, I think was the last to dance last night. And you know, there were so many great performances. You're like, that must be it. And then Ezra comes out. It's like, it's so highly competitive. It's incredible. And then this clip of Guillermo, like anybody who faces anxiety or nerves or just is always a little nervous about just stepping outside of their comfort zone and taking that risk. Guillermo was like a physical embodiment of that on this show. So watching him go home was a little sad, but he left us with a nice message for everybody to see. So what would you say to anybody that's maybe fearful about taking that next step or just stepping outside of their comfort zone? Listen, don't be afraid. Don't be afraid. I know you comfort zone. Don't worry. Don't think of that. You got to go. If you got to do an exercise, just do it. Don't even think about it. Just go for it and do it. Not that. Just fucking do it. Just do it. Just Nike. Literally, just Nike. Just fucking do it. He's such a delight, Guillermo. I'm really sad to see him go. I really thought he was going to go much further. I had some, it's just so fun washing those two. Like, he was, I would say there was like four or five dancers where they got done. And I clapped just because I enjoyed it so much and he was definitely one of them. I loved how, I loved his crowd involvement, like the fan interaction, like he's always constantly hyping up the crowd, like getting everybody going. So even though I did put money on Cal Supreme to go home, it was sad to see him go. Well, Jimmy, thanks for repping the vile files at Dancing with the Stars and bringing us that great content. I hope you had a lot of fun. No, I was a guest. Thanks for sending me out there. All right. We have Max and Pita, two of the icons, OGs of Dance with the Stars that share their thoughts about last night's episode. So they also have a great tour coming up that we're very excited to hear and talk about as well as turn. I didn't, I wasn't expecting talking about parenting, but we have so much fun catching up with my dear friends, Max and Pita. I danced with Pita way back when I was on Dance with the Stars and we have remained friends ever since. So it's always great catching up. But then we have so much fun and they are coming up next. But before we do it, just want to remind you that vile files plus is rockin and rolling. Just add free for all of you people who want to, you know, who don't appreciate that sort of thing. You can get ad free episodes of all vile files content plus we have all the great content like our reality recap deep dives or pop extra episodes and our update specials of all your favorite updates from your favorite ass Nick collars. We love to get granular, get nitty-gritty will obviously be getting into Dancing with the Stars some more all your housewives episodes. So if you're looking for more great vile files content, just go to vile files dot com to sign up. You'll be glad that you did. And then following Max and Pita will get into episode one of Love is Blind Boston. It seems like it's going to be a good season. We'll talk about the cast, the first episode set up this season. We'll end by talking about the recent episode of the real housewives of New York. But up next, it's our friends Max and Pita. Max and Pita welcome back to the show. Thank you. Thanks for having me. So proper. So proper. So excited. How are you guys? How you doing? We're good. We're good. I've now like getting up at 4.30 to be in the gym by 5. It's the only time that I have by myself without children and with no work. So I'm, it was my first time today. So I'm a little bit, you know, tired. I'm OK. Wow. She is back. She does back at it. We waited till we announced the tour. Yeah. But not Pita's back. Now she's back. See, if I had that moment, I think I would just stay in bed. So props to you, Pita. Yeah. I've thought about because like I have not been working out as much as I used to or I want to be. And I'm like, OK, I should start doing that. And it's like, where do you find the time? And I'm like, I think the, like, I'd have to wake up super early. And I would be really proud of myself if I could do that. But I just don't, I don't think it's in the cards. I just, I, I debated it for what a year I've been saying, like, I need to do it before the kids wake up because there's no other time. And I, I kid you not. It was 12 months. And I'm just like, fuck it, I need to go do it right now, like there's no other time right now. And then you step my alarm and I got straight up this morning. I didn't even like, it was time. What is Max doing when you get up? Soaring. Sleeping. Max is on the, Max is the one getting up with the kids. Yeah. Because she's not, she's the worst person to get up for the babies. Why? I, as they see her, the reaction is because they don't let me go. And they all start going nuts. When they see me, I open the door and they go, shit, go to bed. And they all lie down. And they all lie down and they all lie down. They all lie down, they all lie down, they all lie down, they all lie down, they all lie down. I get to sleep because when she wakes up, I wake up, the whole house wakes up. It's fair. It's only fair that you're in it together, right? Like, except when I wake up, then it's like last night I, Nick was going to take River to go to bed and she was like, no, I want mommy to. And like started crying. So I was like, okay, fine, I will. So I was like, okay. I go give Daddy Huck and Kiss tonight. And she went over there, gave him this week, and then we got distracted. And then I was like, okay, okay, time to go. Okay, go give Daddy Huck and Kiss tonight. She was like, I already did. And I was like, oh shit. (laughing) Oh my God. - Yeah, no, I mean, I get it every night. Rio, three-year-old, he's our middle kid. He's very much just like, I want mom in bed right now. - Mm-hmm. - And I have to go and hide in my bedroom bathroom. So before he tells him he has to go to sleep because if I, there, it's a nightmare. - The nightmare. - And so now we're preempted for like 40 minutes. Okay, Rio, one more minute, and we're in bed. And we start like early enough. But by the time we have to go, it's like, look, I've been saying this for like an hour already. (laughing) But our nine-year-old, I mean, there's a matter where they wake up or not. It's like, whether they grow up, he, like, can kiss a child, go to bed, good night. We're gizzin' on the kiss. Okay, good night, Papa, my mom. And then he like, walks away, goes. - Yeah. - And he goes like, like, to her, like, and he's just been doing it for nine years. - Every night, nine years, I'm there. He doesn't go to sleep without me, like, being there, tucking in the covers around his body, and he's just the best. - He's just, they're just using her. And they just use, when she's not in the house, it is a, she has no idea what her kids are like. (laughing) That's, I got all mothers. You don't know what river is like when you're not in house. It's a different river. I promise you that. (laughing) We're having a, she's like, oh my God, he's hysterical, walking out today to the kindergarten, to pre-care, whatever you guys call her. (laughing) She's like, you're so mean, you're so mean. Ah, we go around the corner. He starts out. - Papa, I won the five monkey song. Smile in the face, no emotion, happiness. - There's a little shin back. - And she has no idea. She thinks that it was made in Christ. And like, I'm gonna shove him in a chunk of a car and then drop him off at the kindergarten. - Yeah, like river, she's two and a half. And she, you can tell, her wheels are spinning with like, she's full of shit already. - Yeah. - Yeah. - It's very smart. - It's really adorable. The worst part is, is when you're so mad, but they're so fucking cute at the same time. And you're just like, oh, here. - Yeah, you just have to turn away giggle and come back to it. - The last thing I'll say about that subject is that we're in a different situation. You guys are in a lot more trouble than we are. - No, and we're feeling it lately. - We have three boys. The our troubles are very obvious that there's no like hidden agenda here. They just like, in your face and you have to deal with it as it comes. I feel like girls will sit back and will contemplate. And you will be in just these things. - I'm scared. I'm not, I don't have those. - That's what I heard. - Peter, I've been training for years. My whole life has been built for this moment. - Okay. - I love it. I know you're gonna be fine. - I've surrounded myself with women for like the past, not on however, you know. And like I think, you know, I'm up for the challenge. But it's a, - It's a wild ride. - It's a wild ride. Enough about us though. But you guys obviously announced your tour. That's all very, first of all, very exciting. - We just trying to get away from the house, get in the bathroom, just leave. And we wanna do the tour. Fuck it. Let's do it. - We're going to Europe. - It's really exciting. I mean, you know, it's the US tour and we're gonna be ending in Toronto sitting down for a week there. So it's 40 plus cities. And we just last night, like hand picked all the dances from around the world. They're from all over Poland, Germany, Italy. Like we have some of the best of the best bullroom dances that are gonna be on this cast. So it's so exciting. - Obviously a lot of work goes into it, but I am fascinated. Like I wouldn't even know how to get this thing off the ground. Like what is I guess, what, you're like, hey, let's do a tour. And it's like, great, what's the next step after you're both like, fuck it. Let's get crazy. - I think you can answer that. - I've had a fantastic, you know, a lot of there. Quite a few experiences of pre-production. And it's been, you know, the one thing I've never forget a bucket. I can shout them out. Jared that runs and owns 20 plus years of faculty, which produces dance and starts tours all of their IP. And he's very good. And he's somebody who taught me, he's like, I remember he did our first Max and Valtu and he's like, so I'm about to ride this type of check. And he said the number. I'll never forget that number. It was a big ass number. He's like, why do I want to do that? Let's sell me on the tour. And so we had to-- - You're definitely not to sell people first. - But the second, the first, after that, once you have somebody who's putting up the money, it's creative direction. And it's what the show is about. What will the audience walk out with and say, here, this is what I bought the ticket for? And they go, and I'm getting goosebumps because that's what our I card has always been on the promise over the liver. You're gonna pay same average ticket price. You're not gonna-- this isn't Taylor Swift, whatever. But when you're gonna walk out, you're gonna be like, holy shit. I didn't think this was gonna be that. And that's what we want to come out with. I'm gonna say, one more time. But I've said it the last time too. I was like, this is the last time I'm doing it. - We've done a few tours. I mean, we've done dance with the styles tours. We've done, he's done Max and Valt. We did a Max, Valt, Peter tour. We were gonna do the Max, Valt, Peter, Jenna tour, but then the pandemic hit right when we were promoting it in New York City. - You would have been a fantastic. - It would have been a great tour, yeah. - There's always the chance. - Of course. - Yeah. - But this is an incredible opportunity. Burn the Floor is a fantastic brand. The idea here is what people, so for them to connect the dots. The original Burn the Floor cast was 2009. I joined it as a star on Broadway. And that cast included the Shauna, the Sasha, the Peter, a couple of other people that came out of it, the Emma Slater, - Autumn. - Yeah. - A lot of people. - A lot of people. - There were a few people that came and left. - Ten Revealed the Ollicop. - Ten Revealed the Ollicop, your boy. I'm just saying, there was like a whole lot, about nine people of that cast that came through with that production that ended up your favorite, Bologn dancers. And so that's the key here is that we're bringing a whole fresh group of people that are globally, already experienced and are super talented. And we just want to give it, in the world where we right now sort of consolidated all of the volume dancing to come out of one direction. I think we just want to give it something else. And here's this. - I think it's perfect, too, because they're going to be intimate theaters. It's not going to be a six, 7,000 seat theater. They're going to be intimate theaters where you can really like see us on stage and feel our presence and like see some sweat. And maybe get some sweat on you're in the first 10 rows. You know what I mean? It's going to be really, really great like that. - Hot. - Max, you're about my age. Is it is, how are you? - Are you like two? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You've never been hotter, if I may say so. You know how I feel about you. But like, you know, it does get tougher and with kids. And like I said, like I said, I would love to be my wife would love me to have larger arms, you know, but like we can't make everyone happy. Like how are you prepping for this dance? And like, how do you keep up? - Yeah, 46 and 40. - It's not what you're going to keep up. I've started this six months ago. I was like, hey, babe, we've got to get back in the gym. Hey, babe, but she's like-- - I'll be like, I'll do it when I'm ready. And now I'm-- - No, she's ready. - Listen, to answer your question, I'm in it. Five days a week of some sort. When I'm at home, I'm doing stuff. Whether it's, whether right now I'm getting my mom involved and then I want to let her go. This is my last sort of problem with this. Well, because I brought her to this Taekwondo thing, you know, like-- - Okay. - Vince in insanity or whatever it is. And I'm freaking doing it with her twice a week. - I literally did. - They don't do this bunch of women. And it's me getting the bag and I love it. I love it. I sweat my, you know, what off? And I'm getting my cardio. And then through the other times a week I lift heavy things. And I'm saying like, you just got to be in it. I've never left. I never stopped, I never slowed down. - So you're better than me. - Yeah. - It is basically what you're trying to say. - That's some things, Nick. Not a podcast thing. That's not like for tape, but at a key-- - It's awesome. Arms are his forte and they are big. (laughing) - It's funny to say arms because I always tell him I'm like-- - She said it. - I like big arms, so-- - I was like, say no more fam. This one we were single in the club. I should've listened. - Oh my gosh. He had his different approach. She's like, I like big arms. He's like, say no more fam. I'm like, I like big arms. And you're like, well, you know what I'm doing? - You all have big arms. - Vince is so nice. - You say I like big arms. And he's like, let me work myself up to a 40 and wake up. I'm just trying not to have a heart attack these days. - No, I get that. Yeah, you guys are busy. - That's why you gotta go to the gym. - You know, two-shay, two-shay, you got me there. No excuses, you know what I mean? - Wait, is Shy still dancing? I feel like last time we talked to him in classes, is he still doing it? - He is, yes. It's funny you asked that because when we moved to Florida, his dance partner's family actually moved with us. like two months later, they picked up, moved everything, found an apartment like, you know, couple of streets away, and they're back dancing here with a new coach here. We also have like a studio here as well, which was very convenient where we moved to. So he's still dancing and he's getting ready for his second competition. That's, that's incredible. Now is that just like an amazing coincidence or is it like, you know, obviously like ballroom dancing, you hear about like in a such an early age, it can be hyper competitive. But like, that sounds like he's pretty awesome and pretty serious about dancing, you know, like, or you know what I'm saying? Like, no, you're shaking your head. But like, is it like, but is this partnership at that early of an age that intimate and that important or is it just like an amazing coincidence? It is important for sure, because you don't switch partners. You stay with that partner and compete for as long as it does get very competitive with the parents and all this stuff. I'm an unexperienced competitive world dancer. What do you mean? It's a fantastic ballerina for her to ankle, became ballroom dancer, and we all kind of like, we have seats ceilings about it. I grew up in a company that started competing. She has no idea. You know, I had 11 partners before. I know that. I'm saying you don't switch. You switch as much as you want. Yeah, you're doing something like a dude, Max. You sound like a dirty, dirty fuck boy. You can have as many as you want. It doesn't matter. Peter's like, there will only be one. It's monogamous. It's all the time. Yeah, it happens all the time. You outgrow them there. I'll grow you. Yeah, but I suck so much that kept taking my partners away. So I went through five before age of 10 because like with without me knowing. Because you were bad? Yeah, it was not very good. And they were like taking my, my, the girls would just go through me and into a better pastures. And I think it was not until like maybe 10, which is about shy days now, that I was like, I actually like this girl. And it was like a month in. I'm, this is it. I'm going to give it an effort. And then they took her away. And I got so sad. And now I remember, now I think it's what's happening with shy. We, you know, he's nine now. He's got a girl partner. So the girl partnership thing situation is happening. He thinks it's his girlfriend. I'm trying to keep him on like keep your options open. You went to school. He's literally told him keep your option. So I was like, what are you saying? I'm like, don't get married too soon. I'm saying factures things that need to be said at least. But it's that. And now we just sort of stand by mold. We're watching him develop. And so do we stay? And we definitely aren't those parents that push or anything. We let the teacher do the job. And we just sit back and watch. Well, and I'm also like making sure teacher knows that we watching and we know that, you know, that I know that you know, whatever you know too. I love you guys. I love you guys. And after the week and we had with the twins, like you guys, like hearing you talk about it is like it makes me excited about our, our daughter is getting older and just like all this fun stuff that you guys get. I did speaking of you being a ballerina. When did you start Peter? I started when I was four. So I did from four to like 16 only classical ballet with a Russian. Very different teacher. And then yeah, I mean, yeah, of course, it's different. No, I'm just saying like so for people that know dance and dance and dance and dance. She did something that's Japanese and I did something that's apples. No, no, carry in reminds us every episode that, you know, can't do that. Yeah. Yeah, that was funny. She reminds us of a lot of things. Oh, well, now that there is she brought a ballet river started ballet yesterday. Oh my god. Yay. She started ballet. I didn't realize that I was going to have to participate in the ballet. But I guess it makes sense for two and a half year olds. They're like, and mom's also blow up your bubble. And I'm like, oh, okay. They're about to get Nick. You think you're staying out of this? You're the victim in this. You're about to know I was a cameraman. No, no, no, no, he was there. He got there. I'm just saying the system is set up against Paris. This is what we came for. This white shy. We're like no competition. Thank you. Tennis. They already asked me like, do you want him to? Because he's playing tennis with high school kids. He's swimming with like a group older than him. And they're all like, hey, so we have sweet meat. I'm like, nope, go away. Hey, we have tennis come dope. Nope, nope, not today. How about the ballroom thing that we're going to talk about this later? I'm doing that, you know, what is that movie about Ciri? The Venus sisters, you know, with their dad was like, it's competitive sports. That's what I'm doing. I'm like, I don't want him to know what we knew. He doesn't need to know just yet. You're like, you're keeping it fun. I just don't want, I don't want, and now you see like internet allows now. Everybody knows everything. So everybody's, what's number one parents complaint is the weekends. You lose time. You miss out on, you know, shy and I go fishing on the side of this. Like, we just love fishing and I'm not a fisherman and neither is he. But we just do the action. Bro, there's no time for that. If he's right now in an activity like a baseball, all his friends on weekends, they're not home. Yeah, no, I mean, like, we have the lake house and it's like, I want, you know, we put so much of our love and energy into it to like build it to a place where we want our kids to enjoy, right? Like, we've already are like, okay, they have, you know, and yeah, like, I think about that a lot once they get involved and stuff and to fuck, you know, when are we going to find out? Especially if they really love it too. You run with it. If it's their passion that you keep it going, I mean, I was dancing six days a week every day of my life. Yeah, but I'm, I'm going to run with what he's passionate. So just feel like this, this setup here is like you pay for this, you pay for this and you pay for these sort of experiences. But the experience is like, why, why does a nine year old have to travel across states to go play things? I don't know. I'm okay with it. I don't have a problem. Like, I think it's good to be a little competitive every now and again and learn how to lose. I just missed out on, you know, most weekends, let's say my competitive circuit was back when I was a youth, you know, competitive. Like, what do you think weekends a year? It's such a balance, right? I mean, that's the thing. It's, it's a balance and you got to figure it out. Kind of jump in that question regarding like, uh, dance at a young age because like, I grew up playing basketball and it's at nowadays it, you have to be able to keep up like financially in order for your kids to pursue basketball. That's his passion. Is, is dance like super difficult to keep up with, like, as far as you have to take pay for play almost, like with trainers and coaches, is it like a lot that goes into that? I mean, one of the most expensive sports you can be in. Really? Damn. I'll have to pat us on the back like my family. We are sort of known in ballroom world in terms of competitive accolades, call it that, not with a pat in the back, but that's what Val and I did. I coached Val, I coached bunch of, you know, students, you know, for two national titles, world representative, world champions. Val is a two-time world champion. I'm going to take that with a pride because that's what you said. Of effort and we did not have the money. We didn't have the funds. We were not the family that was funded like that. Usually a couple is a boy and a girl whose parents are paying for the couple, you know. Usually one parent's rich. One parent has to finance the whole thing. And so we notorious, the trapezoid, the trapezoid, the trapezoid, you never have any money for this. But it's funny, you ask that right now. It was one of the biggest competitions in the world just finished in England. There was an oil out with whole writing center of London. And I was watching it right now, all these sort of finalists and finals and a lot of snippets. And I keep seeing this. And isn't that crazy? I've been 20 years removed from that world. And I'm looking at this fine, I'm like, wow, that's really expensive couple. It's big business. Yeah. That's really, that's for each couple in the finale. Yeah. Aside from talent had spent a lot of money to be. Look, I'm talking when I started back in the day when I was 17, I think when I got my first boring dress, it was $1,000 back of them. In 2002, I think now one Latin dress is what, $5,000, $6,000. And you don't wear it again. You sell it afterwards. Yeah. And a boring dress. The long dresses. Guys, they are insane. And lessons are like $400 for 45 minutes. 45 minutes. Is the travel all over the world? That you have to lie to go to around the world. Yeah, around the world. When I was in my later and result professional days, we have an 11 grand slam competition circuit. I did 10 of them. You had to do, you know, to be that type of ranked couple in the world. I did another, like, you know, maybe 10 ranked events in the US. And to save money, it would be me and my partner sitting and rhinestoneing it the night before the competition. So to save money on that, you know, part of it. Wow. There's a movie here. Can I produce this movie? The Tremorsky brother. Like I'm already approached, already talks, rags from riches. Like in this, like, we love a good dance movie, the competition. You know, we need a new dance movie to come out. We do. And it, you know, two, two brothers, you know, like, and we'll definitely, like, however bad it was for you, we'll make it 10 times worse, right? Like, you guys have 10 times worse, 100 times worse. We want the streets. We're looking places. On the streets and the alleys, like, doing crime to survive. You got to dance your way out of - Beautiful, let's do it. - That's your way out of jail. - Let's do it, guys. Let's produce the shit out of that. - And you're competing against all these elite, elite rich asshole kids, and they're just kind of bullies, and then you go, you know, and then it ends, and dance. Yeah, oh my God, like. - Guys, whatever you think it is, it is. Like the, the vile competitiveness that you get from some of the women and like slashing up the costumes and like this and that. - Somebody putting people called me fat when I was there. I wasn't really fat. I wasn't super skinny either, but like I was told that I was big-boned, and I needed to be the best if I wanted to stand out, like, I need to like, go to the gym, like, baby, it was everything. - Crazy. - I know there are people who listen to the show or tapped into the Hollywood scene, probably some very talented writers and producers of TV and movies, like let's get on this. Like I do want a little bit of credit. - Let's just, let's do it. - Listen, I'm gonna reveal the thing that I think, you know, is already my anyway, but, you know, I like, I'm very fond of, so I got into acting a little bit. Now, I'm not gonna say anything yet. There's no, there's no accolades this yet, but I love it. I really do. I appreciate the art form and I love the TV behind it. - So you're playing yourself in this movie, okay, period. - No, no, no, no, but I'm saying like in the process, people have, I've had these conversations non-stop. I'm a huge fan of Celeste Stallone for his whole situation with Rocky. And I identify with that type of really character that to everybody who thinks of boxing movie, it's, to me, it's a movie with boxing in it. You know, in the same way, that's the dance movie that I will write, and it's already sort of like coming out, is the movie with dance in it. It's not, you know, gonna be a cha-cha. It's gonna be with cha-cha rightfully present it. But the last thing I'll say, you know that favorite guy of yours that's on Dancing with the Stars right now, killing it, Val, this is a true story. His first dance shoes in United States were somebody's hand-downs. They were like, hey, by the way, this new school that we just joined two weeks into immigration with none of us spoke English. And we came in and we're sneakers. And this boy was like the mother of this boy that owned the studio, like, oh, here, you know, he's not using these anymore. He won his first comp and these shoes. He danced in these shoes until his food grew out of it. They were not dance shoes. They were like stiff and stuff. But it's true story. You can ask Val on the carpet tomorrow, he'll tell you. That's how we came up. - That's incredible, man. - Yeah, there's such a great story here. I really hope you make this a real thing. - So, before we move on to talking about last night's Dancing with the Stars, where can people, we'll obviously put it in our show description, the link in the bow for tickets, but where else can people go to get tickets for the tour? - BentheFloor.com, so. - Burn the floor.com. - Yes, that's what it goes. - There are a lot of theaters, well, a lot of theaters have announced. Some haven't gone into ticket sales yet. And I believe that some have already sold 80 plus percent of their tickets. - Yeah, that's exciting. - I'm just saying, that's what we heard. - We want to come to a show. - Can you please? - Yeah. - What did you guys think about last night? - I loved it 'cause Donald Driver was there. I won with him, he was my second partner. So, I love the whole Super Bowl theme. I actually think, for me, the music was awesome because the music choices that they had were tremendous. They were bangers, they were all winners. - Because they were all half-time pieces. So, I really enjoyed the entire show. I loved it. - Yeah. - Maybe you can't tell us, but who are y'all voting for? Val? You know? We don't really vote. - We don't vote. Val gets pissed when we say that. - Yeah. I've never voted for me. - That's a little crazy. That's a little crazy. - I try to influence, I try to influence many. - Yes. So, I feel like I'm making a big impact by. - I will admit that I have to be reminded by my wife to vote for Tyler, which, by the way, thank you, Colchee. - Yeah, thanks. - Wait, so what did you do better? How did you do it? What did you better? - Colchee was, you know, that she's not going home. - Yeah, he was on the top of people who thought he was going home. And I bet against that. - I grabbed Guillermo to go home when he was at 90%. I came up too. Yeah, drink some jimbo. Let's go. - Yeah. - I was shocked. I did not see Guillermo going home. I said it. I'm gonna call you too. I said it. - I thought somebody else was not enough for sure. - I thought it was gonna be Jackson. - Jackson. - I honestly, I said last night watching Guillermo and Whitney. I'm like, they can make the finals. They're so entertaining. Like Whitney, like God bless her. She's looks incredible. She's pregnant. And she says, she had that one caramel. She looked at the caramel. And now that I was like, damn. Really? We got it. And he's so fun. I honestly was shocked, Guillermo went home. - Yeah. - But I'm still, I think still there's a blueprint to this. And the one who did it best with that type of partner. And I'm not comparing, but I'm just, but hear me out. The category of Guillermo as a celebrity on this, who starts, falls into the same categories like Tommy Trong. And Tommy Trong, and this one, I mean, every dance was literally half a step if any of that. - What? No, it wasn't. He did two steps, maybe. - He was 76, by the way. - Damn it? - It was, and I got him to the semi-final. - semi-final, they did, right? - Not letting him into the final. Like, it wasn't even, anyway, sorry. - I just don't have a fantastic job. - I felt like Guillermo did a great dance to keep him keeping on, but. - So much of this to your point, Max, is the performance. And like, when I watch, I pay attention to the facial expressions, because like, I was like, not, I was not good at it. And like, I love watching Val to your point. Like, you know, I think what, you know, watching you and watching Val, like, there's a masculinity that you guys bring to the dance floor. - I'm gonna give you a compliment. - I think, I think, I think, this Nick right here, what a whooped ass of the Nick that was there. - Probably, yeah, you know, I'm 10 years older. - I'm just saying, like, what you have now, even, even maybe not more dance or less, I'm just saying, like, but that Nick right here, is the type of character that would do well I think in the show. And I think, I think Tyler's doing well too. I think because of that, because you guys just, you needed a little bit more time. - I was like, I was like, I was so, yeah. You were so, like, I felt like you were a little overwhelmed at times. - 100%. - And you may be masked behind, like, I was uncomfortable, but just, like, I think it came at you a little bit. - I mean, you didn't do that either. - No. - You were right in the middle. You were in the middle of the path. - It was on it, Natalie hadn't watched it and her and Victoria, like, put it on all my dances, like, I don't like, six months ago. And I had literally never seen 'em, because it was like, and honestly, watching it back, I was like, it was better than I thought. - Yeah, yeah. - But I've been, like, counting Tyler. I'm like, just, like, you'll learn to step. Like, Sean was great, but, like, just perform, man. And he did such a good job, I thought, last night. Like, really, just, he really-- - I thought I was the best at it. - Yeah, it was so much fun him and Sean now. Like, just the whole thing, it was, like, it was great. - Jenna Dewan kept saying she wanted OG Val back. What, what do you think that meant? - I love OG Val. - What is OG Val? - Well, for me, I love OG dancing with the stylons as a whole, you know? I've always said, like, I want to bring back more of the drama, you know, I feel like it's so vanilla. You know, I just need a little spice in the judging. I need a little bit more spice in the packages. I think also, you know, there are so many couples that we don't get to see enough of the rehearsal footage as we would have done, you know, years ago. I feel like it's not extended enough. And I really want to see more of the couples, like, working and working out the differences and working out the struggles and stuff like that. But OG Val is back in the day. OG Val was just, like, do it again, do it again, do it again. You know, he was right. He was like, you know, I mean, I don't know what she references. I think, I think I would say that a lot of dancing with the stars became, like, when you franchise a one-off, right, you kind of, like, you take it from what this one thing was and you try to systemize everything, right? You need systems. You need to say, I don't, cake shop, right? This was a one-off cake stores. Everybody loved it. It was amazing. Now, let's see how we can do that 100,000 times and then create a chain of that. And I feel like dancing with the stars slowly somehow, kind of mold sometimes through these types of times. I feel like Mark is producing fantastic content, Mark Ballas. But he's always done this. I feel like Val is producing great Val content, but Val was fantastic when he was hungry and he was putting in things that weren't dancing with the stars. Now, I feel like a lot of people are doing dancing with the stars ending, dancing with the stars beginning, dancing with the star set of steps. And I feel like I would love for a bigger variety, a more, you know, original content, if you will. I think maybe that's what anybody that says, "Oh, bring back OG, whatever." You know, bring back OG, I don't know, LeBron James. He did more stuff than he does now. I feel like, I don't know, maybe that's the reference, but that's what I'm missing. I'm missing when it was unpredictability. And right now, it's a bit predictable and to even the fans I'm noticing, they're like, "Oh, that's the Chacha." It's not such thing as chacha ending, why do we feel like these are the, you know, ways that we have to finish the anger? That's just my, I am curious, like that move, um, where you like kind of hug each other and spin around, I don't know. I guess I got some rules. Okay, so that's like, that is a, that has to be an Asamba, if you're gonna do Asamba, that has to be an Asamba. No, it doesn't have to be, but it is a good technique, but, but if it is, the why it gets so much, oh my god, that is because that's a really fucking hard thing to teach. Are you crazy? You got four days to learn the whole thing to begin with. You're gonna waste time on this extremely difficult motion where a person in front has to actually go backwards into the person that's behind, although we're both moving forward, it's like rubbing your stomach and patting your head. Yeah, you have to, yeah, and you have to, and you, and you acknowledge that only when it's done right. Um, and, um, yeah, and I feel like I want more of those type of elements. It's hard. People don't realize I love when athletes, you know, what was the biggest push for dancing with the stars early in the day was Emmett Smith. And this gentleman is still there. And actually, I love that I have Emmett in my phone. I have, and this might claim to fame from the stars. I got a trophy and a wife and I have Emmett Smith is my phone. But, you know, that he's the one who said it, like, guys, this athletes, whoever you are. This is not as easy as it's not easy at all. I got to, I got to go dance for the last night. I got to talk to your brother, who by the way is just hilarious. Like, off camera is just a great guy. But it was funny. Like, you talk about you want to have that hunger. Like, he definitely still has that, like, chip on his shoulder because I brought up how the judges were like, we couldn't tell who the stars versus the pro is. And he was like disrespectful. I just like, he still got that fire in him. No, I love that. I will say that, like, watching Jenna, and obviously she has a dancing background. But like, when you watch them, I said the finale last night, like, that's how I, when I was hoping to go and dance for the stars, when I was on dance for the stars, you kind of imagine, like, what if I got to do this? And when you watch Jenna and Val, you're like, that's, if I got this opportunity, that's how I would. That's how I want to look. That's how I want to come across, you know, like, and it's so, you're so locked in. It's, it's really fantastic. Well, I think I'm, it's, it's, well, they're, they're insane. They're incredible. I was so looking forward to the Pasadoplay last night and they nailed it. The scores were perfect. I agreed with everything they said. Jenna is a force. She's, she's like, the dream partner. If you could dream up anybody to be with, it's somebody that can dance, obviously, you know, yeah. No, she's doing amazing. But I think it's also like, they need to do this as somebody brought it up. And one of those chat groups yesterday, I think, Bramble, Calcio, whatever. And then they were like, you know, like, I don't understand. But Tyler got an eight, you know, and, and, and Harry got an eight. I'm like, guys, we're the season 35. This is not the same eight, you know, and, and so that's the, that's the understanding. Here's that Jenna is not going to be judged the way you're going to judge Guillermo. It's not even close. Yeah. And so for them, like, they're the, I don't know, you know, you want to bring us up with, with Jenna and Harry getting, you know, schooled with a Samba, I feel like because they were pointing at the fact that it looked like he had easy movement and, you know, with, within what he was comfortable with, because Harry's a dancer. He's amazing. He's incredible. He's a, he's incredible, guys. I'm telling you, in what he did. But he, it looked like he had a bit of a, like, rough time doing the Samba action in a way that's easy and, and very light and kind of clear. It was like, and now this, and that's what they've noticed, which is what they didn't notice in Jenna's performance. When Jenna and Val Dance, it was like, like, what you said, which one is a pro because the her, her quality of movement was on a different level, and it didn't show up that it was hard for her to even know what the Samba is a week ago, right? And so that's what separates, then, you know, those two because I thought, I thought Harry and Jenna are on the same level, and I feel like this is going to start putting, going to the point where it might not be the same level, you know, and it might not be equal couples. And I don't know, but I'm hoping that the next dance, Harry and Jenna are going to blow the roof of this joint because this guy is one of the most talented humans you'll ever see on the floor. Yeah. I'm curious what would have been Y'all's reaction had you gotten the feedback that Carrie and gave, Jenna, about the lift. Actually, it was funny because when I heard what she said about, like, nobody can lift the person. I kind of, I agreed with Jenna in the fact that, like, oh, oh, so even if it's not me, he can't be lifted either. I think that maybe that would have been confusing for me too. It's going to get the side of the way and then I'll shut up and then you answered politically correct. I didn't understand what Carrie and Seth and, uh, answer your question. Number one, you know how my reaction would have been because it's documented. It's out there. You could just Google me and reacting to Carrie and, but I have to, like, come on, man. She then goes and starts reading of the rulebook, but then that same rulebook that's applicable in ballroom to lifts is only applicable to a couple dancing in a couple. You're not talking about a bunch of extra background dances running out. And this is a group routine where now three other people that aren't the couple are doing the lifting. Oh God. There's just no three other people in the rulebook. The point here is that Carrie and just get some consistency. A lift is a lift when a partner lifted his partner and it, the foot went out. Two inches and now you get to call it because that's what you're there for. But if you're going to have a troop run out and throw someone in the air, it's not a lift. That's a dancing with the stars, you know, creative direction. And you should complain to the creative director. That's a good point because I, so I got the same thing when he, when he did the backflip. I'm like, is that not a lift? I don't know. His both of his feet went up in the air. That's not a lift. I mean, a lift is anything two feet off the ground. That's what you read out the rulebook now. In this particular case, it's not a lift because it's not a word, a lift. It's a word that's applicable to ballroom dancing. That's the lift we're talking about, not a general concept of being lifted of the floor. To answer your other question, I thought Jenna, our Jenna was the, the best, most consummate professional that I never was in these particular situations. And in fairness to carry out my question to you is, is like, is she under pressure to play a certain type of role as a judge? Because to your point, like, how do we mix, mix it up? How do we get the fans engaged? Is she sometimes do you think leaning into some things in the spirit of getting, honestly, these types of reactions so that we can like get activated, want to vote, support the people we want or, or no, or is it just like that's what she thinks and that's what she's saying? It's my opinion as I think it's both. I think everyone plays their role, Bruno plays his, Derek plays his and she definitely has that role. She's the lift police and always has been. And I think she leans into it because the booing starts, people start talking online and it's blowing up again. It's everywhere this morning. So she likes lifts or she hates lifts. She likes lifts. When you're meant to be doing lifts like in the salsa contemporary, um, three style. She must think it's like cheating. She knows that you love it. She knows you're obsessed with it and she's like, doesn't want, she doesn't want like a lazy choreography, I guess, because she knows you can wild the audience with a cool lift. Maybe. I back to differ specifically in particular case yesterday and specifically when it applies to Harry and Janna, I agreed with a lot of what she said. She said, "Samba content." She said, "Samba content wasn't enough and I agreed because instead of, you know, doing a samba, he filled it in with usher." They gave her too much of a nod to his type of movement and movement quality and which is Harry's high card is that type of movement quality. But samba didn't play out and I think that's why Karen should have ended to give it a lift situation. Come on. First of all, then give them a seven. Take the points, deduct something. Why did you bring this up? If you only didn't do anything about it, that's my problem with this. I'm so glad I asked you. I love you guys. Wait, I have one last question. Did you feel like Tatiana got the shortened of the stick with her dance and with that song? I felt like Squabble Up was a hard. You know what? I loved that dance. I thought she did a really good juicy salsa. I did not think that was a bad salsa at all. I think that Yarn and her put on a really good. I think that was her best dance and her entire season. That was great. I loved it. I've just seen some chatter on the internet. That feels like a really hard song to salsa too and she got the shortened of the stick with that song. It was more mellow of a song. Salsa is usually upbeat and super fast, frisky. But this was more of a chill one, same with Tyler and Shana just got the same sort of mellow salsa song, more groovy, so to speak, and they got pinched. for it too. They were just like, oh, we wanted more energy out of Thailand. And it's like, well, the song is all brewery and booty. So, Kim Kardashian did salsa to Baby God back. That was a difficult song. It was a difficult dance. I would love to hear your thoughts on Ezra. Obviously he's crushing it and doing so well. But just like from your perspective as professionals, just articulate just how special what he's able to do is given like, you know, his his limitations with his leg, but he's crushing it so beautifully. Like, tell us about that. I keep jumping up with excitement every time he comes on. I'm like, Max, stop cooking. Get watch right now. Get to the end of the sofa. Stand up here with me. We need to see this every single week. I am just blown away by his sheer ease of movement with one leg. I can't believe his hip rotation. They must work on it for hours on end or he's just naturally gifted, but his arms, his everything. I don't even look at his at his leg. I don't. I see a fully trained beautiful dancer that is so competent and so good. And he has the wow factor blows my mind every single week. Again, I'm going to keep bringing up my examples because it makes sense to me, but I remember I got, I'm not my partner for that season was Aaron Andrews. And I was like, we're winning. You know, this is great. He's great enough. I'm just going to look great, we've taken it down. And then we're meeting other other couples and it's Nicole Scharzenger with their, like great. And then with me, you know, and then it's Evan Leicicic who was a solo, win Olympic champion in in figures, ice skating, dancing. And I'm like, okay, we may not make the final. So it's like you went from this is it to maybe this is not. And I think that that's also the season is very tough. You have Val and Jenna, we talked about it. You can't fault for anything. This is going to be like, you know, it's insane to watch. There's nothing to talk about. Yeah, Harry and Jenna, they're going to figure this out. He's going to blow your mind with a freestyle that you've never seen in your life or whatever else they have coming up until then. And then you have this guy and I've already seen Shana with Noah Galloway who had, who was missing an arm in a leg and it blew our mind and he was doing half of what this kid is doing. We've also seen, you know, Amy party when I somehow won with Meryl and Derek was with Amy, Amy had was a double MPT also was incredible dancers and put on absurd performances. So to watch this guy do this, yesterday, if he watched that dance back when they wrote down the stairs and the first day he does is like a some kind of assemble. That was and his whole body action moving. And I'm like, bro, he has none of the body part to do that with. So we're blown away. Yeah. Daniel is great and she will throw elements at him. Yeah. Yeah. No, they're insane to watch. They're a force. Yeah, it's so much fun. I love you guys. Thanks for taking the time. This is so much fun catching up. I can't wait to come see you on Burn the Floor Tour. We're so excited. Yeah, please. Everyone, go get tickets. Link is in our show description. It's always great catching up with you guys. Come back soon. It's a loving you guys perspective on parenting and dancing with the stars. Thanks for having us. Thank you. Love you. It's great to catch up with you guys. I love you guys. Okay. Let's take care. Bye. Bye. Bye. I love them. That was so much fun. We're on a bargain for way more than I bargained for. It's great. It's great. It's great. My best my best acting I've ever done was with Max. What we were doing? It was at the end of the season of dancing with the stars and you know, they got around you know, you have let you know, you start with like 16 couples or whatever than you're down to four and they still need to do our episode, you know, so you get more packages, you get more like they bring people back to do like dances and stuff like that. And so like, you know, I love Max and Pita and during the season like, you know, he's a good looking fun guy and I just like leaned into it like your husband's so hot and I would just kept talking about Max to Pita throughout the season. This whole package and we it was like me and Max like I was like talking about it's on YouTube. It's hilarious. It was it was so much fun. Anyways. I love it. I love it. All right. Well, love is blind. Boston is it's back number 11 for love is blind. I only hope that average age of attraction can have a half of that success. So shout out to the love is blind cast. But I just want to start by talking about the guy who who said that horoscopes are satanic. If you're a guy and you say astrology is satanic, I think you have to secretly hate women. Absolutely. Who else is that targeted towards you? It's so like right. It's like satanic. Come on. All right. Sounds like a Scorpio behavior. I haven't heard. It sounds like somebody who got his heart broken by a girl who was in this job. Yeah. Yeah. No women. Yeah. Yeah. She's a way. She reminded me of I remember I have this Vivian memory. God bless my grandma a very religious woman. And you know, old school. And you know, maybe not as enlightened as you know, whatever. I remember being like five years old in the car and and her telling me that Prince, one of the greatest musicians of all time worship the devil. Yes. And I was like, really? Are you sure? I don't I don't feel like he does. Okay. Tipper Gore. She said, I don't trust anybody that turns themselves into a symbol. She said the filthy 15. Anyway, that's not like the yeah, it just what all satanic? Come on, bro. That's crazy. How are we feeling about Bonita? She's cheating. She's a hundred percent cheating. She's cheating. Ask all the questions possible to let everyone know. She's hot. Autogenic. Also in real life. I take really good photos, but I also look at them real life. I don't have blonde hair. I'm Albanian. My father looks like she's alone. Like, girl, just break through the wall and show him your face at this point. Love is blind. Cheater, cheater. So is she going to give like disqualified? Is that how it's worked? I'm also obsessed with the way that they're editing her and her being like, I haven't stopped thinking about you. I think I'm in love with you. I could fall in love with you, but I don't trust you. How could I trust you? Can we talk about how I could trust you? I think I'm in love with you also, by the way. And I haven't stopped thinking about you. You're at my top. Am I at your top? It's like. Meanwhile, he fucking hates her. Funny. He hates her. Do you think she's painting an accurate depiction of herself though? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I do. Like, you think she's photogenic by your standards? Yeah. Is she hot? Of course. Yeah. She's beautiful. But like, even when he was like Rachel, and she was like, don't ever call me another woman. He's like, no, no, it was like a joke. I knew I know it was you. I'm sorry. Do you think it was joking? Yeah. On the strict program, I could say. Man feared for his life at that moment. And I think he hates her. I do think he like, I think his confusion comes with like, he, I don't think he's ever been complimented by a woman who she clearly, she is, she is articulating how beautiful she thinks she is. And she's like, I haven't stopped thinking about you. And she's like, I'm obsessed with you. And he, he, you see it in his facial expressions, at least in the edit of like moments of like rolling his eyes. And then she's like, but you're like, so I'm just obsessed with you. It's like, I think maybe we can do this. You know what it always gets like a little sexual. And it's like, okay, that's for sure. It's starting getting mad where he was like, oh, at night time, Maurice, when I'm bad, and I'm going to make you, but not too much to get you too excited. I'm like, all right, get the course. I'm out of here. What did you guys think about having the ocean as a non-negotiable? Is that something that's possible? Oh, I thought that was so funny when she was, he was like, I'm a yacht captain. She's like, oh, I'm afraid of large bodies of water, but I like a pool. Like, girly, that's not the same thing. That is not the same thing. No, you're going to be, you're going to be in a jaws movie with this man. You need to be prepared for that. So, I mean, as the question is, like, is he, who's more ridiculous him and her, him and her kind of thing? I, my question is, is Nick, you're the king of knowing non-gotiables and what those are, is the ocean. I think it's a non-negotiable for him. Absolutely. Listen, it's a unique lifestyle, but it's clearly a passion of his. And I think he can definitely find someone who shares that passion. I mean, even him pitching it, being like, you could, if you work remote, you can come with me because it's been a month in Italy and then Bob around here and then, like, even him pitching it, it sounds dreamy. You know what he reminded me of? Or he didn't remind me of him, but he made me remember him. Who is the guy, who is the guy, who is the nomad from last season? Alex. Alex. And just the vibe, the difference between this guy, painting a picture of his lifestyle. And like, Alex is, like, made up, like, delusion. Like, what's his name? The sailor. Blake Blake. So, like, Blake, maybe he's bullshitting, but it seems like this is like a real thing. It's a lifestyle. He's cultivated for himself and hopes to share it with someone else. It sounds pretty fucking cool. Maybe not for everyone, but like, it just reminded me of Alex and just how fucking crazy he was as a character. You know, and how incomplete of a person. And how like, he has so much to figure out. And the last show he should be on is a show that's like, I figured it all out, but I'm ready for marriage. It's fucking crazy. Yeah. But you'll ever live on a ship. But I wouldn't. But for like a period of time, it could be fun for the rest of my life. No, thanks. I'm like Erica, where I'm like, out when we were talking in the past. and he was like, "Hey, if you wanna go to Italy, "just pick up your computer and go." And she was like, "You know what? "I can't pick up my computer for a month at a time." And you know what? I would do it. 100% I would live on a yacht for a month or two. - A month or two was cool, but I feel like living is like longer than a month or two. - I feel like that's a follow-up question that needs to happen though, is like, "Hey, do you have a permanent address "along with this yachting captain stuff?" - He did kind of make it seem though, because if he could be gone for like a month at a time and whatnot, so I'm like, it doesn't really seem like he's in the place to settle down fully. Like, he's not doing yacht charters for the day in whatever area they settle down. He's like, "Well, I'll still be going to Italy," which I'm like, "I do think it's kind of a red flag "for somebody looking for a marriage." - Do we buy the Taylor Swift stick? - Can I tell you that I didn't know that that was an "ic" for me, but it was an outdated, multiple time. Yeah, I was like, if you need to tell me about the law, and I told you that I'm a fan, and you're going into like, "Well, these three songs are, "I'm like, no, immediate, immediate, no. "I'm closing the book." - Because you think it's performative? - He's 100% research this coming on the show. - Yeah, I was like, "What do all women love?" Taylor Swift. - There we go. - They're gonna love me for this take. - He's like, "Tell me some lore." - There was two guys that were very adamant about being fans of Taylor Swift. - Well, there was the one guy that seemed a bit genuine 'cause he just really loved songwriting and loved the phrase. - No, he loved even that handwriting, but he named off her two most famous songs, Shake It Off and Bad Blood. It's like, you just search her name on Apple Music. It's like, if you like Taylor Swift's songwriting, bring in some folklore, bring in some everyone. Don't give us the pop hit. - Be a normal guy. - What do you want me to do? That's my shit. - Okay, okay, I'm sorry, but I'm still gonna cut like where I'm like, and maybe I'm the problem and I'm okay with admitting that. But I'm just like, it was giving me Brendan Frazier in bedazzled. Like I cry at dolphins and sunsets and it was just going a little too far for me where I was just like, "Fuckin, chin up, bud, come on." Like we're just like songwriting and sunsets and crying and I love to be held and I love to be the little spoon. I was like, "We're doing too much, let me find that out "on my own while we're cuddling." - Oh, okay. - I just, there's like, be a normal guy who likes Taylor Swift in some of her songs. And then when it comes up, you're like, "Yeah, no, I'm totally a fan. "I respect your career." Like, you know, they're all doing styles of, you know, styles of Bob, we love it. But like, yeah, like, I'm maybe-- - Style also, like basic. Like, you know what I mean? - No, I know, but I'm not, I'm not, I don't, I don't, I don't call, I don't define myself as like a massive, I'm a fan. - Okay, but for the girls in the room, - Wait, what is that? - Sorry. - 'Cause like, this is actually to me. (laughing) This is giving to me the male version of like, pick me, where it was just like, I'm not like all the other guys. I like to cry, and I love Taylor Swift. And it's just like, we're doing too much. Okay, don't tell me all the reasons why you're soft, why you're different from any other guy that I've ever been. I'm gonna love you. I will cry with you. Like, I don't need all that. I've got my girlfriends for that. Literally. Sorry. - It is the year I'm thankful. - I was trapped in my grand now. I was just told I'm going-- - Beautiful, you're right. Here's my question. What's a bigger, pick me, behavior, red flag. If someone throws out that they love like, bad blood, Taylor Swift, or if someone gives you like a deep cut, like, new romantic. - Yeah, when you're like, I love the soft stuff, come on. - I don't know. - All of it has become-- - Or there are other songwriters. - That's why he said, well, why is this the range and why is it specific? I get, it's Taylor Swift getting a cut of this season. - Okay, what's happening? - But what's worse, somebody saying they love Taylor Swift or a guy being like, yeah, no, I love Clareo. - I don't know who that is, but like, - Almost, they actually love Taylor Swift. - Watching them may have been like, every one of her shows. - And by all means, your person is in there. It was just too much for me. - No, it's the fact that he started the conversation. He did the homework. He had it ready to go. He did the research. He's like, I'm going to use this shit. Are you okay with Taylor Swift? - Definitely told his boys, too. Definitely told his boys, they're going to love me for this. - And it would be one thing to eat this up. - One thing if she was like, oh my God, yes, love her. Went to a show. Love the ares toward, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh. But she was like, yeah, like, you know, I'm a big fan. - No, not really. And he was like, great. Cracks the knuckles and opens up the textbook. And I'm just like, no, this is how we're going to connect. - Wait, low key, I feel you because girls do be trying as shit when it comes to basketball sometimes. And I'm like, yeah, I got to do all this right now. - You know what I mean? Show me your fan during the season. - I mean, now I would do it as a bit. But when we were first sort of dating, she would go on Twitter and text me like, takes as hers. - Really? - And she'd be like. - Like I would search hashtag Packers when the Packers were planned. And then I would send him like like tweets about like. - When you would steal it as your own take? - No, no, no, I would text me. I would see the tweet of some guy being like, oh, love should have thrown that, that-- - That real technical. - Like real technical shit. And I text it to Nick being like, I feel the same way. And he'd be like, what? How did you know, you know? - I think this is happening to me like right now in a joke world 'cause he's my fan of Steve's quarterback in this girl. He knows this, she sent me Joe Burrow tweets. - Oh my God. - Yeah, no, yeah, she's going on the internet and she's taking-- - Oh, fuck yeah. - She is. - Interested. - It's like, I feel like the best thing in relationships is when somebody is passionate about something you're not and then they get to explain the thing they love to you, right? And it's like if you actually like someone, it was like someone should want you to talk about Joe Burrow to them because they just like hearing you talk about things you like, they don't have to care about Joe Burrow. - Yeah. - You know? - They care 'cause I care. - Yeah. - And I only watch his baseball with me like a loving wife and she-- - Okay, I was gonna say I feel like you lose that with your married because I was gonna be like, I feel like every time Nick tries to talk about things he loves, Madden, or like, I don't know, goes on his brand. - I'm so bad right now. I'm so bad right now. - Did I see her, like, she dies, like, and I'll be like, yeah, okay, you don't care. - I feel like, y'all will appreciate this. My mom didn't grow up at basketball fan, but because of my dad and my brothers, she was kind of just forced to start watching and consume a basketball. And now that, like, we're all out of the house, my dad wants to not watch basketball when it's on. He wants to just watch TV. And my mom's like obsessed with all now. She's like, the tables have completely flipped. - Yeah, because you are sharing, like, yeah. I mean, Natalie, to her credit, genuinely knows that, like, I love the Brewers. I love the Packers. And while she's not a massive fan of those franchise, she makes it a family event. And it's like, we share that moment. It's on the background. And like, I really appreciate it. And it's the best. And I do feel like we're connecting in a way that's like, she's making that effort. And I thank you. - Yeah, I love you. - But by my logic, Natalie's eventually going to be like a seasoned ticket holder for the Brewers. - Exactly. - Maybe. - Next thing we can just go to a movie and she's like, it's Game Baby. - No Brewers are playing. - Yeah, they played an high pick. - People are on a game. - Well, they will have played last night. Well, anyways, the season looks good. We're excited to get into it next week. We'll cover the episodes. Eventually get to talk to some cast. We're excited to, I think it's gonna be a great season. Well, let's round things up with Roni. - I need to know how Sierra's feeling about Si. - Yeah, how I get to that, Si. - I'm not feeling I'm gonna be on an island alone, but I'm team Si. - I am too. - I know how to feeling. I knew when I walked in here, I was like, I have a feeling everyone's gonna be team Aaron. - No. - Absolutely not. - I'm with you. - Aaron's literally shown in the first episode saying, "I don't talk about you, Jessel," while she's sitting around talking about Jessel all the time. You don't think that Aaron went and talked to a bunch of people about size separation. And it got back to Si. - I hear you on that, but what about don't, don't everybody talk to everybody? Don't, isn't that just gossip? Like the girl's just going. - Again. - We're gonna talk here and then we're gonna go talk about what we talked about over there. But even Daisy, who clearly is having issues with Si, had said, "No, Si is not talking to everyone about that." So that was something that really was personal to Si. That Aaron was going around just like, blabber mouthing. What did she say? Your lips are flapping so much. - Oh my God. - You're creeping everybody's information. - That was so good. - I have the exact quote, and I do feel like it needs to be read for her beta, because it's so good. - It's so good. - I'm sorry, the way that Si's brain works, I'm just, - Abe must be fucking the shit out of your mouth because your lips are so goddamn loose, you're queuing everybody's business. - Like jarring. - Bars. - Like I'm sorry, that's like to me like between Si and Jussle, like these are the type of people I want to see as housewives. I want to see somebody who stands 10 toes down on what they believe they will call anybody out, but hey, I'll go to dinner with you too. I'm filming the next scene. It's a job. And for Jussle, I love somebody who is so delusional, but consistent. I don't want somebody that's like, oh, maybe I'm an airhead when it comes down to did I talk shit or did I not. No, I want someone that's like, Tribeca's an up and coming city or burrow because I just moved to New York and I know nothing. Like that's the kind of delusion I want with my housewives or I want, I'll get into confrontation with you, but I'm also gonna do a fucking job and I can move on and that's what Si does. - I do know that Aaron was lying because Si being like you, I talked to Jena and Jena was like, yeah, Aaron told somebody and that person told me. And then Aaron just kept saying, I didn't tell Jena, I never talked to Jena. I didn't tell Jena, it's like, no, we know. You told somebody and they told Jena, but she just kept sticking with the I never told Jena. It's like because that is your only truth in this story. Thank you. - Yes, 100%. That's what I said where I was like, we've watched Aaron do it so many multiple seasons, but especially as I said in the first episode when she pretty much told Jussle you're non-portant enough, I don't talk about you. And then the editor smashed cut too, her talking to ultimate girls trip, talking to anybody in every season, just talking shit about somebody that she claims to be friends with and then be like, I don't understand why you're so angry with me. - Do you think Sy was leaning into much about the Epstein stuff in an unfair way? - Um, honestly again, I think that's some serious shit and she is a mother and I feel and Carol's not. So I do feel like for Sy to be like, hey, you were involved with some shady, [BLANK_AUDIO] that I did some absolutely abhorrent, terrible things. I need to know how closely related you are. - That's a really good point. - I did think it was bananas that Haley tried to relate. (laughing) Okay, first of all, again, another great freaking housewife addition, the delusion. I love her so much. And then the way that she can just get triggered in an instant, she's like, what do you mean? I'm always bringing it up. It's like, baby, yes, you are. Like, I love her so much. So, no, I'm like-- - Daisy being headhooked. - Daisy has no idea who John and Kate are. (laughing) As they shoot it. - I don't know who John and Kate are. - Yeah, because you weren't around for TLC for 18 years of bliss, okay? Like, it's-- - No, I wish I would have known peace like that. - My favorite thing, too, was last episode, Daisy talking shit with Aaron, being like, Martha Stewart would look down on that place. Get some fucking FaceTime with Martha Stewart. She's like, oh my god, I wish I was out there. - I wish I was out there. (laughing) - I'm just like, yeah, y'all just talk shit because you're bitter and you're jealous. But I was like, this cast of New York Housewives, absolutely shoved-kiss, obsessed. The new one, Erica, love her when she was like, I'm gonna comfort her because I like her, but I also don't want her to sue me. So real for that, you know? (laughing) And then you have Si having her challenger's moment, popping a knee during tipsy tennis. - I hear you on Jessal, like, I got it such a saucepuff for Jessal later. - I think she, like, I don't think she's intentionally anything, like I just think she just exists. She says shit, doesn't realize how it comes off. - When she got clacked for calling out Erin for accusing Erin of the scam or like the insurance fraud. She was like, I didn't say it was a scam. I said it was a surest fraud. Like, not realizing that there's synonymous. - Yeah. - It's so funny. - That's just hard, that's what it's all about. - She stood on it, like, she stood on it. - And exactly, she's not sitting at my favorite moment of that when Erin was calling them out. And she goes, oh, and she wasn't a part of it. She didn't mention herself. And I was like, oh, stay, stay forever. - So good. - Also, when Si hurting her ankle, and like, she's kind of laughing about it. And then, all of it, she's crying all of a sudden. And now it's like this whole big dramatic thing. And you have Daisy being like, do you need to be airlifted? We need her to be airlifted. - And then Erin just sitting in the corner. - To it, I know. - Oh, I watched it with my fiance. And he literally goes, I don't care what happened between the two of them. That was psychotic. To just sit there staring, not blinking as somebody got injured. That you're like, friends with not friends, I don't know. - I don't know. - It was like-- - Not to be fair, yeah. - She just kind of like stumbled. It wasn't like she got like a three-failer. - Hi, you know, too many curtains in the kitchen. Erin was like, you know, someone's got this. I'm gonna, I'm gonna doctor. What can I do here? - You can't sit there and tell me that you care about the friendship or that your feelings are hurting all of these things. I'm sorry, even if like if I get into a fight with Natalie, she fucking falls in trips. I'm not gonna sit there and look back and just stare. But Erin had just cut her foot on all that glass and no one went to check on her besides Erica. - True. - Well, well, yes. But also, I'm like, again, Erin is not somebody who can stay after getting into some confrontation. So of course you make the big announcement. I'm gonna leave. I'm the, and now I, okay, and fuck everybody. And it's just like a parallel. - But I think if she would have checked on her, that would have been performative. Like I think-- - Because I'm not gonna be the one. - No, to decide the one I got. - I mean you say my Erin to check on. - I think that would have been like, I think that would have been performative if she would have checked in on her. - I guess, yeah, I'm like to me. I'm like, there's a little bit difference of getting a cut and then like, I don't know, busting a knee. - Jimmy as an athlete, do you think Si was flopping or do you think she was really hurt? - Like, I probably not a good person for this part because like I've been through like traumatic sports injuries. So like anytime I see somebody like crying over like a little like bump or something, I'm like, bro, get the fuck up. Like, so unless like she actually tore her ACL, I don't really have much sympathy. - I will say, I've dislocated both knees and it definitely put me on the ground for a minute. And the first time I was pissed, like when I went in an ambulance and then they just fucking straightened out my leg and we're like, all right, here's some drugs and walk it off. Once I started doing it, not like I was popping my knee out all the time, but like once it started happening outside I was just like, all right, here we go. But like, once you know you know, but I'm like, if that was the first time that's happened to her, then I'm like, that's exactly what I look like. They put my freaking leg in a cardboard box like with the knee cap out. So I rode in the ambulance for 30 minutes when all I had to do was this. I was like, yeah, the rubs had turned on it after a while. You just learned the rubs and fucking drugs. - You just walked it off. - That's great. Yeah, it's a giving season. It's really, really good. - It's a great season. - Right now we're in the prime of house wise. We got Potomac, we got Roni, we got OC, we got Salt Lake cities, like outside of Rhode Island, it's for the best. - Oh, I'm so happy right now. - Anyway, that will do it for today's episode. Thank you to our guest Max and Peter. Make sure to go check out their tour in a city near you. Always good to hang out with you. Jimmy, thanks for reping us at Dancing with the Stars and getting those great conversations from the cast of Dancing with the Stars. We appreciate you guys. We'll be back next week. Until then, have a good one. (upbeat music)