E1199 - Wendi McLendon-Covey Talks Housewives, Warner Bros VS Chris Harrison, RHOSLC & RHOC

(upbeat music) - What's going on everybody? Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Vafal's Reality Recap Edition. I'm your host Nick Join by my wonderful gorgeous sexy wife, Natalie. That, it's just us right now. We got Susie coming up later this episode. It's a wonderful guest, very excited for you guys to listen to her. Wendy McLendon Covey is with us. You know her from St. Dennis Medical. You also brought her from the Goldbergs, Reno 911, Bridesmaids, a very talented, funny actress. She is with us to talk all things about her career, but she's also a massive reality TV in housewives fans. So we're very excited to have Wendy later this episode. Lots to get into, but I wanted to start with very devastating news. Gypsy Rose, you know her, everyone knows who she is, you know her from the show as well, but her partner Ken sadly passed away last, I think, Thursday. She quickly came out with a statement, which I think we have, but like my first fear was like, oh no, what are people going to say? Obviously Gypsy was involved in the murder of her mother, served time for that. Lots of thoughts and feelings around Gypsy Rose, but you know, we had the opportunity to interview Ken Gypsy when they were expecting their daughter Aurora. And it's just really just devastating to see this happen, but she put out a statement and honestly, it made me even more sad about the situation. She wrote, I don't know if it was intentional or not. He was not in a good state of mind lately. I'm in disbelief. I can't think I've screamed until my throat burns, candered an unimaginable level of public scrutiny and relentless cyberbullying across social media platforms. The cruelty directed toward him was something no human beings should have to endure. I believe the tremendous weight of that scrutiny and harassment had a profound impact on him. And I hope his passing serves as a reminder that there is a real person behind every screen, every headline and every comment. He was an amazing father and a man who was deeply loved. He will forever be my soulmate and my red string, a connection that time, distance and even death can never erase. Above all, Ken loved our daughter Aurora. She is a beautiful reflection of his enduring spirit. And through her, a part of him will always remain with us. I will make sure she grows up knowing how deeply her father loved her and who he was beyond which strangers on the internet chose to say about him. There are no words that can express the depth of this loss. I ask for privacy and compassion for our daughter, our families and everyone grieving Ken during this incredibly painful time who will be deeply missed forever loved and never forgotten. Yeah, I mean, you know, again, I didn't really know what to expect from what she would say. I mean, we all know that obviously a lot of people had thoughts and feelings about Gypsy and everything surrounding her. And we talked a little bit with Ken and Gypsy about this when we had them on the show about just the scrutiny that they face, and obviously he faces someone who's chosen to be with Gypsy who, you know, has the past that she has. We hear about this all the time about how the internet and internet bullying and how it can affect kids and things like that, but it's just so sad. And obviously they have a young daughter. I'm definitely sending all our love and thoughts and prayers to their daughter and their families. Yeah, it's terrible. And I hope I, you know, I hope people will be kind and not do the whole like true crime thing, which people sometimes too often do. But, you know, just echoing what Natalie said, just sending all our love in this very difficult time. It was really sad. I mean, it's weird to think that we had someone on this show that's no longer with us. Yeah, it's really devastating. We're, we're to transition from something that's so hard, but we'll do our best. I don't know if many of you have seen or heard, but Chris Harrison, former bachelor host, is coming out with his own new reality TV show. Do we know if he's like the executive producer, is he just the host? He is an executive producer and host. He's an executive producer and host. Well, apparently the good people at Warner Brothers sent the Chris or whoever, you know, Fox, Fox nation, Fox nation, a ceased and desist, which is a little funny and kind of meaningless. Because like, yeah, they definitely can make the show. I don't know what the Warner Brothers thought they would do. And also, it just seems like they're just promoting it now in a weird way, which is funny. Because it kind of reminded me way back when my dear friends Ashley and Jared wanted to do like a bachelor spin-off, like a little reality TV show. We did a YouTube series where it was like Ashley and Jared and Jade and Tanner. I tagged along a little bit and we did this like YouTube series and they called it The Rose Buds, which I didn't love the name to begin with. But when we dropped that episode, they also sent us a cease and desist because they thought that was, you know, I guess too close to, I guess, whatever they were doing because we had the Rose Bud name in it. So they changed the name, whatever. But apparently like the Bachelor of Franchise owns the word Rose or something like that. And while I'm not necessarily in the business of celebrating or promoting Chris Harrison, it is kind of funny that the Bachelor of Franchise, which is not even on the air. And I don't know what's happening with the Bachelor of Franchise, but like I don't know why they're going out of the way to promote a project that Chris Harrison is doing. - It's also like, looks like such a low budget production and like it just doesn't look good. - Also what is Fox Nation? - No idea. But it's like, yeah, it's like, definitely not gonna be a good show. So Bachelor didn't need to do this. Like it wasn't gonna perform numbers. - No doubt, yeah. - But like no doubt the people at Fox Nation are ones who are making this public, right? - Probably. - The cease and desist because they want us, everyone talking about it, they want it in their headline. They want you to think that the Bachelor of Franchise is afraid of the success that Chris Harrison might have. But they sadly played it into his hands. I don't know. I still wanna figure out what they're gonna do with the next Bachelor of Franchise because I've heard that they're planning on making one early next year, but I don't know what they're gonna do in terms of finding their lead. - Well when Warner Brothers sent the cease and desist, they flagged three similarities, one being obviously the red roses. They say Warner Brothers says that the roses are one of the Bachelor's most recognizable and central symbols. The second is the mansion, according to Warner Brothers, a preview image for the vowel features a mansion that appears designed to resemble the iconic Bachelor mansion. And third, the screenshots, Warner Brothers included side-by-side stills from the vowels trailer and past seasons of the Bachelor as examples of what it claims was copied. - Yeah, but it's so vague, basically a flower in a house. First of all, the Bachelor mansion is not a mansion, it's a house. - Okay, but also like if Chris Harrison, their previous host is who got fired and obviously has a bad taste in his mouth with that show, tries to do the only thing he knows how to do which is host that show on a different platform, it is very similar. - Of course it's gonna be similar, but like how are they gonna, you know, a lot of shows like mimic and copy and things like the Bachelor does. Bachelor and Paradise tried to copy Love Island this past season, you know, with some of the stuff that they were doing. - I guess, but I guess I see where Warner Brothers is coming from. We're like, if you're not gonna get away with this one, Chris. - But he is though, you know what I'm saying? It's just a season assist. It's basically a threat. If you go forward with this, we're gonna sue you, which I don't think they have much of a case. And I'm sure the Foxes lawyers anticipated this when they were promoting it and making the show. And certainly the Warner Brothers people want to protect their IP, but it just seems like a silly, you know, Chris has proven to be petty over the years since being fired from the Bachelor franchise. And then sending him in this team or whatever, Foxes this season assist seems to plan into their hands of trying to get that buzz. - Yeah, I guess we'll see. - How was the field trip today, by the way? - Everyone on her first field trip today. And her whole class was there. Obviously they were like parents, bring your kids. Like we're not in charge of them. We are gonna do a class hay ride at 1045. So be there for that. It was so cute. It was like literally Rivers, Heaven. There were goats, horses, cows, pigs, alpacas, donkeys, miniature horses that you could pet, feed. All of the other kids were like, you know, nervous or I don't know, skeptical of the animals. River was just like walking right up with her little flat hand feeding all of the animals and kissing them and petting them and she just had so much fun. And then there was, which I've never seen this before. It was the most wild thing ever. There was like a massive bird cage that you can go into. They give you these like sticks with seeds stuck to them and you just hold the sticks out. And all of these birds just come and like land on you and eat the stick. They were, I was like covered in birds. And River, they landed on her a few times but she wanted to pet them as soon as they landed on her so they'd fly away. But it was, she thought it was the coolest thing ever and it was so fun. - I don't wanna buy a bird. - I don't wanna buy a bird either. - That's like the worst pet that I have. I feel like I'm sorry, bird people. And then we did a class hay ride and then there was like one of those big potato sacks, like slides, you know, where you said enough potato sack and then you, it's like two or pipe. I don't know what it's made out of plastic or something. We did that a million times. And then we got to pick her own pumpkin and I got her an apple cider slushie and it was so good. - Apple cider slushie. - It was delicious. It was so good and we drove home and that was it but she had so much fun. - Did you meet any of her friends? - I did. I met two of her friends, I think, [BLANK_AUDIO] and their parents and met their parents. Very sweet, very cool. Exchange some numbers. Talked about some play dates, all the fun things. But it's so interesting because they acted like they had no idea who they were. Like River, River did not, and her friends, like they did not talk to each other. - What do you mean? - They did not talk to each other. - How do you know they were friends? - Because her teacher was like, oh, and here's her friend, whatever. And I was like, oh my gosh, she talks about, you know, to her mom. Like she talks about her all the time. She's like, oh my gosh, she talks about River all the time. And I'm like, River, look, like there's your friend. He was like, and then their kid didn't say anything to River. I was like, are you all sure your real friends? I don't know, they're just, were shy when the parents were around. - Maybe they were distracted by the animals. - Maybe they were. - I'm very interested, yeah, because any of these people could think we could be friends with? - Yeah, I think we could be friends. I only met the moms, but, and I was honestly shocked. It was all parents there. I was certain that there was going to be just, 'cause it's on a Friday, Friday morning. I'm like, usually kids are in school. I was certain I was going to meet all of the nannies and babysitters, but I met every parent. It was like there. And majority of them also have had. - How many are in a class? - 14. - And like, because River doesn't go every day, is every, do some of the kids go every day? - Yeah, so there's like, some kids are five days a week, some kids are three days a week, and then some kids are two days a week, two days a week. Two days a week, there's, you know? So it's like, she met a really cute little girl who sat beside us on the hay ride. And her teacher was like, yeah, she's in my class too, but she's on the Tuesdays and Thursdays. And I was like, oh my gosh. So they don't even like know that they exist. Yeah, next time you're gonna have to come. - Any of the both parents come? - Yeah, there was a lot of people there, with the dads. Some women were like, I asked my husband to come and he said, absolutely not. (laughing) Okay. - I had to work. - No, I know, you did. And River, they gave you a little like admission where it spans, like little plastic or something. - Yeah, she didn't wanna take it off. - No, she thinks it's the coolest thing ever. She's like, I have my bracelet and matches in my mind. Mine's orange. - What I've heard too bad, she's certain that she wanted to take, keep it on. - Yeah, I'm curious to know how long that's gonna last. - I think we'll last for a hundred years. - No, I know, but how long until she just forgets about it and I can rip it off in the bathtub. Like I do her bandage. - Hmm, you know? - Yeah. - That's true. - Well, to get into more fun and exciting things, our first guest is coming up. Wendy McLinden Covey is with us again. Dennis Medical season three comes out November 2nd, but she was also on the hit show The Goldbergs. She's from Reno 911. She was in Bridesmaid. She's absolutely hilarious and a big Bravo fan. So we talk with her about all that fun stuff and so much more. And she's up next and then coming out of Wendy, we'll get into some real housewives of Salt Lake City as well and then wrap things up from there. Wendy, welcome to the show. - Thank you so much for having me. - I'm so excited to have you. We're all big fans of you. I wanted to say, do you remember meeting me like 12 years ago, 13 years ago at the up front, the ABC up front, I was the bachelor at the time and you came up to me. You were very nice and you made me feel quite at home. Anyways, it was a long time ago. I remember just because like, you know, at the time, I was like, I was the bachelor. I didn't know much about obviously this whole space and it was like people like you and all these like really cool people at ABC. And I remember being really nervous and you just came, I forgot what you said, but you came up to me and you were very gracious and nice. - Oh, that's so nice. - Hello again, it's good to see you. - But for the audience at home, the up fronts are like where you pimp out your new shows. - Yeah, yeah. - You shouldn't say pimp, but that's what they're doing. - Yeah, they bring in like all the talent, you know, of the network. - And it almost feels like speaking of petting zoo, like everybody kind of walks past you and it kind of inspects you. (laughing) - Root all over. - And you shake hands and say hello to the advertisers and whatever, it's all very odd. - Yeah. - And you know, if you're not in the world, it just feels like why am I doing this? This is so stupid. - Yeah, and I really was it in the world, but it was like for me, I was just like, oh, all these, like I know all these people, I recognize all these people and it was this kind of, but I was kind of a fish off of water and I was excited to meet you, so I'll hear them. - Well, look at you now, you're king of the world. - Hardly, but you know, it's funny, 'cause I remember, I don't know who, I don't know who I was talking to. I was like standing by myself at like some table, just kind of like, I don't know what I do next, and kind of taking it all in. And one of the, one of the talents at ABC was like, you know, because I'm sure for you, you've done it a million times, I'm sure it's kind of a grind. And they were kind of like, yeah, isn't this thing kind of, you know, kind of lame? And I'm like, I don't know, man, this is pretty cool for me. I just, I had this kind of self-awareness that I like, I'll probably never as the ABC, the bash that there be, as recognizable. Like, I don't know where my career is gonna go from here, I don't know if I'm ever gonna do anything in this space. So I just, I remember like, really taking it in, just because I was like, I may never be invited to something like this again. I've never been to an upfront again, so there was that, but yeah, it was a memorable moment, so thanks for being a part of it. Yeah, oh my goodness, thanks for remembering that. Well, I'm gonna, that's awesome. It's kind of night, when you're like, treat somebody, obviously we should all treat everybody very well, but when you go out of your way to like make somebody feel comfortable, who doesn't, and then it comes back 12 years later, like, hey, like, you really were that person, it's like, that's kind of some good karma coming back, you know, shout out to you, I'll, I receive it. Yeah, thank you. You've obviously had like a really, like, well, first of all, long and fantastic career. And I just say long, just because I feel like in this business, it's, that's the hardest thing is to stick around, right? Sometimes people have luck with a moment, but you've been able to obviously to keep this career going. What do you think it is, I guess, about what you've been able to do that has allowed you to stay busy and working in this space for as long as you have? Well, you're asking a good question, and it's something I think about all the time. Like, wow, how did I get so lucky? Because, like, it's tough right now, especially. And one thing I think is that I listen and I pay attention and I know my place. So I don't try to sell myself as something that no one is ever gonna buy. You know what I mean? I'm a character actress. So I stay in that lane. And I think I have a good picker of projects, you know? And I work my ass off. That's another thing. While other people might say, oh, I made all this money, I'm gonna go on vacation or I'm gonna take some time off. I don't take time off. I do not take time off. So there you go. You often play on the Goldbergs, for example. Like, you've played a mom a few times with roles and you play it so well, these kind of quirky moms. And I think you were quoted by saying, like, you played all these moms and like, it's almost been like, kind of like the confirmation that you yourself didn't wanna have kids with your husband. I'm just curious, there's someone who's chosen not to have kids. How is it that you play a mom as well as you do? 'Cause it's like you find the essence of the middle America kind of mom that people laugh with. And all the quirks of motherhood. As someone who didn't do it herself, how is it that you play one so well? Like you would think that you have your own army of kids, but-- - Well, I have a really good mom myself. - Okay. - But she was kind of a cook as well. And I love her so much. She lives three miles from me. But I always found her hilarious. And if I ever did have kids, I would be just as overbearing as my mom was. Overbearing and religious. So that's how I was raised. But she was so funny and still is so funny to me that look, all any good mother does is act first and apologize later. You are there to keep your kids safe. - Alive, yeah. - And demand excellence from everyone around you when it comes to your kid. And so that's just right for comedy, you know? So yeah, but I knew from an early age that I did not want children because I resented being given baby dolls as a kid. - What did you want? - Well, it just saddled me with a bunch of work. - Yeah, no literally. - What did I want? I wanted high heels and makeup and also a dump truck. Like I wanted to do things. I did not want to change diapers. That was not my jam. I just wanted to be a glamorous truck driver or champion disco dancer. - Period. There's a trend right now on social media that's like, as a little girl, I didn't want to play house or do my fake marriage. Instead, I was like playing diva and I was the rock star. And it's like, and then it speaks to what their career is right now. And I'm like, that's literally you. You should do that trend. - Exactly, or pippy long stocking. That was my favorite hero of fiction. Growing up was pippy long stocking. She had superhuman strength, her own horse, a chest full of coins, and no parental supervision. - I know, that's right. - That's our girl. - What's not to love, you know. - Do you have a favorite role you've played or do you kind of have a affinity for all of them? - I have an affinity for all of them, but I sure did love playing Beverly Goldberg. And I loved playing live. is on rules of engagement who was like this crazy cat lady neighbor who was very unlovable but always like looking for looking for love and never finding it because no one was good enough but she was such a disaster it was very fun love that yeah what is it about those characters that you're like fond of what is the thing um I love playing my inner thoughts love okay okay I guess that's the best way to say it like a safe space yeah I love playing weirdos I don't need to be the lead as long as I can have the laughs you know what I mean absolutely when you're like doing a scene can you feel it like when you've stolen a scene the set of speak where you're like you know like you said like as a character actor you know like sometimes you're not the lead but like you know we have so many favorite character actors when like they do a scene they're really taking over can you tell that's happening in the moment or do you have kind of way to the final cut you can tell in the moment like if the guy's holding the boom mic start laughing or have to turn their head away or excuse themselves yeah that's a good that's a good sign that's my dream feeling yeah like if I could go to bed feeling that way every night I would be like yeah that's a good day oh gosh I love that yeah I love that on St. Dennis I just love our sound department because when they start laughing it's like yes yeah nailed it got him I love it that's awesome there's an iconic internet clip the traffic stop that I've seen for so long I did not my team was like oh she she's the cop in that one I didn't like I've watched redone 911 I've seen it's been around for a while but I guess for whatever reason I didn't put two and two together that is one of the funniest clips on the internet period and period because like when it first came out like that with the beauty of it is everyone thought it was real yes they did and that is disturbing right that is very upsetting and the fact that it's still circulating 24 years later yeah you'll still pop up yeah still send it to me someone sent it to me the other day and said you should parody this and I said you're kidding right no well that is me wow oh I didn't know that wait that's crazy but yeah like it keeps getting sent to me like I've never seen it but also that speaks to like kind of what comedy is in least in my mind like comedy a lot of it is just like making recreating reality oh yeah and and like laughing at what is already true and already exists so the fact that it's circulating and people believe that it's real I think that just speaks to like how good that was like how well done it the right I mean was that written or was a lot of improv no all of Reno was improv yeah his I'm like so I'm so obsessed I'm like I'm just I'm so glad it turned out well because sometimes those things don't yeah but that's what that turned out pretty well and Cedric Yarborough was the cowboy so the cop on Reno that was the cowboy and I don't think a lot of people understand that like we always did double rolls wait oh my gosh yeah he was the guy in the same skit dancing yeah the dancing cowboy like we are so dumb as people potter beret because he's a dancer too you know he had a musical theater background and he can do that makes sense he's full service this is why theater kids are the best like oh yeah we get made fun of growing up but then when you become an adult like we're well-rounded honey yes exactly because you never know when you're gonna need to break out into song you never know when you're gonna need a costume and we have them in our trunk I was about to say I have got a whole I've got two whole bins of them of course I do have a collection of wigs you just don't know good for you I can see that that's good parenting and you did groundlings for like nine years is that right I let's see I started there in 1997 got into the company in 2001 and stayed till 2009 yeah yeah yeah wow yeah that's really cool and do you feel like that and that was before Reno or was that during that was I got Reno right as I got into the company okay yeah right as I was about to give up oh that's right okay yeah we've done some research I'm curious like that is my it's my favorite story to hear from people when they're like I was on the cusp of going home or leaving a layer whatever the thing is like changing my career and through our research we found out that was like right when you were kind of like tapping out on acting and then you got Reno 911 yeah can you talk us through like what that feeling was like and why you were ready to give up and then that redemption yeah I had been taking class at the groundlings and working in the Sunday company and you know for those who don't know at the groundlings they have a main company but they have a Sunday company which is like the farm team so you're you're writing all the time and doing a show every Sunday and trying out material but they vote on you and you either go up or you say goodbye so I had just gotten in but I didn't have an agent I didn't have well I had a manager who was you know useless but I was just spinning my wheels and I would go to the theater and I'm I'm listening to my friends talk about different auditions that they went on or jobs that they booked and I'm like I'm not even getting the chance yeah maybe I'm too old at 32 you know maybe I should just pack it in but I at least have this I at least got into the company I'll never stop doing this I can't my life is too fun now that I have this but maybe it's time to pack it in well someone scouted me at a show brought me in for Reno and the rest is history but no one knew what that was gonna be it's just a basic cable show no one thought it was and it didn't pay any money I you know I was still working my real job okay work that until yeah I was editing a social work journal on the campus of Cal State Long Beach which I kept until I got the goldbergs but anyway wow yeah so all through Reno all through lots of other things how common is that with other actors in your space is that more like something that's part of common the people don't talk about or were you fairly unique in that because I feel like a lot of people don't like to to do both yeah a lot of people don't like to do both but you have to do both if you want to pay your bills you know and I I like eating and having my rent paid so and I wasn't gonna put that all on my husband to support all this nonsense because what if it never went anywhere so yeah I kept my job for a long time and that's called being a responsible adult and it was weird though because I would go into work and drop off what I was doing and people are like are you want to show are you famous cop yeah talk about humble yeah and I was like yeah I do I look I just had a 20 hour a week job it was part time I could do it anywhere why would I give that up that's stupid but anyway yeah so I did that for a while and other other actors have done it there's no shame in it you should definitely not be ashamed to no it's actually super like it's cool to hear about like Susie said it's like it really it's inspiring honestly yeah you know I'm always looking for like you know when you're you know someone who has employees you're what's the thing that kind of separates people and that kind of willingness to do it like you do what you have to do type of thing yeah yeah and it makes it you know just yeah it's it's it's very honorable did you ever mention that like when you were in in auditions in terms of like trying to separate yourself it was it always just like you know let the town speak for itself I never mentioned it okay there's no reason to yeah you know but there were times when I was in my dressing room editing manuscripts are on a press tour and I'd come home or come back to my hotel and edit manuscripts and the great thing about that job is because it was about social work it was very humbling and very much like yeah this is what's important you get to play in Lala land but these are people doing real things and actually helping world they're not spoiled brats like you are but anyway so it was I'm glad I got to do that but then the journal eventually folded and it made sense how did you meet your husband we met at Golden West College in Huntington Beach and we were in a communications class like interpersonal communication oh interesting yeah so it was like one of those required classes that you had to take yeah and we were like the bad kids in the class because we just couldn't stop passing notes and making each other laugh but you know we've been communicating interpersonally for 33 years yeah worked out yeah great class is he funny like you he's so much funnier really he's such a love bug oh yeah when you met him where you always like hey I want to be an actor and I want to try my hand entertainment? Yes. Was he super supportive of that or was he like, well, no one ever makes it? He was the only one who was supportive. So I didn't really get going in earnest until I got married and left my parents' house. Because I stayed there, you guys. I didn't leave home until 26. He saved on that rent. Which is saving up just as nerdy as can be. But that's what I'd, yeah, I never moved back. Yeah, there you go. Never asked for money. There you go. Did he ever kind of help you develop some characters? I know you develop. Yes. Deputy Clementine and Steve at the Groundlings. Did he help with that at all? Greg helped me learn all my lines, helped me write, like not write, but like I would try things out on him and he'd say that was not funny at all. You know, or you could have had a better show. But this really worked. Like, he was very honest and I love that. Yeah. I love that. I'll take it from him because he has only good, how do I want to say it? Good intentions. Yeah, he's not there to be in competition. He's there truly to be helpful. Yeah. So yeah, I love him. I would have nothing if he didn't believe in me. Do you guys love a bit together? Like do you guys ever like have like a stick? You know, I don't think so. But you know what? You ask a good question. Maybe we do little things and I'm not. We're so into it that we don't even realize we do it. Well, I was in, I'm like pulling from experience here where I'm like my favorite relationships, their ones were like, we're always doing a bit. You know, like there's always just like the joke keeps going. You're in character. And I'm like, who am I anymore? I'm talking about myself. Yeah, I've lost myself in like the best way, you know? You know what? Yes. I guess we do do that. Yeah. But it's just reality now. Yeah. Yeah. We don't even notice it. And we're kind of in the era of reboots. Everyone's trying to like think about what's the next one to reboot. If you could have reboot or reprise any role that you've played in the past, which one do you think it would be? I think anything I've played in the past, it's, it's too soon to reboot. Even Reno? We did a Reno reboot. And I don't think enough people know about. Really? Because we did it during COVID. But do you remember when Quibi was a thing? Yes. For like two days. And they were, yeah, they were buying everything. Well, we got to do a reboot because of that. So I think all those newer episodes live on the Roku channel. Yeah. Or Paramount. We knocked out two more movies. Whoa. Oh, I love that look. Nobody knows about this. Yes. Yeah. It's a wonderful heist, which is a Christmas themed movie. And Reno 9-1-1, the hunt for QAnon. Are you sure? Which took place on a cruise? I cannot believe. Okay. Like we have to, household, we have to watch it. The hunt for that, I mean, the hunt for QAnon, that must have been so, so rich in content, which, yes, which we filmed on the very haunted Queen Mary during the shutdown. Like, what? This is blowing my mind. How long was that shoot? Did you? Oh, it was two weeks. Okay. Okay. But yes, we did. Yes, we did experience something. And believe me, I'm as woo-woo as they come. And I took my ass around that ship. I'm just like, come and get me, come and get me. Come and get me. I'm here. Yeah. The only place I felt something was in the engine room. I felt like, get out, get out now. But it was a very eerie place to be because no one had been there for so long. And the air was completely still no ventilation in certain places. And it was, it was just eerie to walk through it. And then there was a time we were filming next to a big staircase. And there are these mirrors on either side of the staircase on the first landing. Okay. You can picture that. And someone kept saying, can everyone clear out? We need to get this shot. And there was someone standing. You could see a figure in the mirror. Are you serious? After asking over and over, whoever's in the mirror, you got to move. They ran up there to see who it was. And there was no one there. Come on. What? This happened. This happened. Were they recording? Yes, they were. And do they have the, I did see the footage. I said, please, let me see that. Yeah. Can you see it? I don't know if those ghosts have heard of improv. Okay. What did he or she or they look like? I don't know. It's just a figure. Okay. But anyway, that's why also it's a funny movie. That's the takeaway here. It can be very, very funny movie. That's that's his. That was it was so fun. Oh my god. So yeah, we did that reboot. Okay. Now, do we need a third? Maybe. I think we're all down for it. But I don't know who would pay for such a thing. I would literally fund the whole thing. Yeah, but I said it here first. I don't. It's going to be low budget. Yeah, that's all right. That's all in my account. But I will fund it. Who have been your favorite people to work with? Do you think either at the groundlings? It could be performers or writers or just like co-stars in general. Oh, I've been so lucky. Yeah. I have been so lucky. Look, my whole Reno family, my whole Goldberg's family cast and crew. That was a magical experience. St. Dennis, we have the sweetest crew in existence. And they've all been together through like Superstore, American Auto and St. Dennis. Like, this is a tight crew that's been together 10 years now. I've been really lucky. I can't say that I've had a lot of bad experiences. They've mostly been good. That's amazing. Knock on wood. Yeah, you know. Well, you're also a big housewife fan. Are you not? Oh, I'll keep you here till tomorrow. Great. Yeah. I have many feelings. Have you ever before we get to your feelings about housewives? I'm very excited to hear. Have you in any of your roles? Have you pulled from any character study watching housewives? Because obviously they're so rich and, you know, Rita from Bridesmaids. I was going to say that. I was just going to say. Oh my gosh. Yes. Rita from Bridesmaid. Is there a particular housewife or is it a combination? No, it's a combination of just the general malaise of, oh, I've got it all and I am exhausted. Well, what do you do for a living? Nothing. Yeah. What do you do? What's up with your kids? They are driving me nuts. They're not even in the room. You know, just just I'm here and I'm meant for so much more if only someone would knock on the door and offer me something. It's so good. It's so good. Especially now that I've gotten into housewives working here. Which franchise did you get your start on? Orange County. Because I live down there. I'm like the last ditch exit before Orange County. Okay. It's where I live in Long Beach. Have you met any of them? Oh, yeah. Because I've done watch what happens live like 13 times or something. So I've met a bunch of them. I've met Vicki, Alexis, Kyle, Durrinda. No, not Durrinda. Do you eat? Margaret. Yeah, I've met a bunch of them and you know, everybody's so much different in real life when you meet them and they're not in that environment. Everybody's so sweet. But they know how to play the game now. They really do. Back in the early days. I felt like it was so much more genuine and not as produced. Do you feel that way? I don't know. Yeah, no. I mean, yeah, 100%. It was, you know, now with the way people cover the show and the podcast like ours and the blogs who cover it, it just becomes such an industry, so to speak. Yeah. Yeah. And now that the universe has really taken off, there's so much like fascination with behind the scenes. So you, I think with that, it kind of peels back some of the mystery of it. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, 100%. I think they were just, I think housewives back in the day were less afraid of like what audiences members would say because fans are so engaged now. Sometimes it feels like, right? Like they're almost reading about themselves online and that changes their behavior, you know on the TV. 100%. Yeah. Yeah. And seeing yourself on camera makes you want to go and fix things. Yeah. So they're all very polished looking now. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But it's just a far cry from how it started because again, no one thought that this was going to go on for 20 years, right? Haven't they been on for 20 years? 20 out of celebrating 20 years. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, who knew that this would spawn so many franchises and podcasts and wrap up shows and break down shows? Like even, even then, themselves. I mean, at first they had to blog. I don't know that they do that anymore, but don't they all have a podcast? And have to do the after show things. Bravo, Khan and all that is such an industry, right? It's such a universe. Before we get to your thoughts in OC, how are you feeling? Are you watching Roni? Are you keeping up with that? I am. What do you think of the new season versus, you know, they're, you know, the old, the first reboot. Now this is like a reboot of a reboot. What are you? How are you feeling? So this cast is not jelling for me. Okay. Yeah. There's some that I feel would be better suited with other casts. Maybe, but I, there's just something clunky about this combination of people that's not doing it for me. Okay. You know, it makes me miss Ramona and Sonia. Are you going to watch Golden Life? What's Golden Life? Is there another one? So yes, they're like it, though. You was only so many hours. So it's technically not part of the bravo universe, but Dorinda, Kelly, some of the, Lewand, some of the OGs of Roni has said, well, you know, you don't want us back. We're going to go do our own thing and Palm Beach, Palm Beach, Florida. That's where it's going to be located. And they're kind of being kind of reprising. They're roll of housewives, but they're not going to be housewives because it's not part of the housewives franchise, but it's also like E. It's kind of like it feels like they're kind of competing with Roni, but maybe not. But people are very excited about it. Well, I got to say that sounds more interesting than the current iteration of Roni. Are you liking Vicki back? Okay. Here's what I want for Vicki. I want Vicki to go back to Don. Yeah. Do what you have to do, Vicki, but nail that down. That's who you were meant to be with. And I want her to go back to the Midwest because I think she would be so much happier there. Yeah. That's what I think scale down. Be happy. Move to the Midwest. Cotto is, is not for you. You've made it work somewhat, but you seem so unhappy, Vicki. And you're working so hard. Stop. She does kind of have that Midwest grind to her. Is she originally from the Midwest? I thought she was from Illinois. I think I remember hearing that, but I think they're looking. She wants to go back there. I do want her to get back with Don. Just go live a nice casserole filled life. Yeah. In the beginning of the season when she was from Chicago. She's from Chicago. Yeah. Chicago. Chicago's awesome. Go get some devil dogs and no peace. Yeah. You want that to hear someone who like, you know, left their partner and speak. So like, you don't really hear a lot of people talk about regret of divorce. Yeah. Yeah. Which I really appreciate her opening up about because you usually just don't hear stuff like that. But yeah, you're kind of like, well, what's stopping you? You know, like go back. Fall on your sword and say, I messed up Don. I will spend the rest of my life making it up to you. You sweet, sweet angel of a man. That's what I wanted to do. Because this Vicki is so sad. She's got aches and pains. She's mad all the time. Possibly brain damage. Possibly. Yeah. Oh, boy. Have any of you done those scans? I have. Have you? I haven't. I know I should. My friend, Joe, a mobily, found a brain tumor. They found a brain tumor. Oh, yeah. Whoa. Oh, my God, saved his life. Did you find anything? Nothing crazy. Just that I've got some sludge in my gallbladder that I need to clean up my diet a little bit. Sludge in your gallbladder. I said, that's the most unattractive thing I've really ever heard about myself. I'm like, that's worse than really any dig anyone's ever said at me. You got sludge in your gallbladder, bitch. Literally. I was like. I do the stupid thing where it's like, if I don't go to the doctor, then I don't have it. And if I do go to the doctor, I'm worried that I will have it. I am the same way. Yeah. And I have a great doctor. He's so great. I can't get in to see him until February. So maybe I should just go get a scan. That's what I did. Yeah. Healthcare's a scam. I've been branding about it all week. Listen, I'm right there with you. It's so frustrating. Yeah, yeah. I'm supposed to get a colonoscopy. It's really divulging a lot here, guys, but they can't get me until March. Like, what is that? What is that? So, but yeah, like a year or two years ago, I did my pernevo scan. And I was having mental health crisis because that's what I do. And couldn't get in to see a doctor. Like, it was just the wait time was so crazy. And pernevo reached out. I did it. And I learned a lot about my body in general. That was really a concerning thing, like besides a hernated desk, but you know, that was the only thing I was like, okay, I need to like, do better. But you find everything out all at once. You don't have to go and say, all right, can I get a note to go here? Okay, great. Then I got to make an appointment. I go there. They say, no, we didn't get that note. Okay. So then I got to go back. Get another note. No, wait for this test. No, just scan me. Just look at everything. Look at all my gizzards at once. Why are we not doing this? Why is everyone not doing this? It should be standard practice. Yeah. Because it's a scam. You inspired me. You should do it. It is a scam. It's all a scam. But can't it all be a scam at once in one convenient location? Yes. Exactly. I learned how much of a scam it was when I sold medical equipment for work. What? That'll do it. Yeah, the dirty little secret is the government actually sets the prices for the private insurance. They all follow Medicare. They have these things called CPT codes. That's what your doctor's bill. When you go in and they check you out and whatever, there's just a code for everything. Then Medicaid and Medicare set those prices. It's all bullshit. I used to sell back braces. You could buy probably the same back brace how it wall grinds for 30 bucks. But if you got it from a doctor, a doctor would then be able to build the insurance. Then the insurance would pay that doctor $1,100 for that same back brace. That's why healthcare costs are so inflated. Because the insurance companies in the government and they're all in cahoots together. My job was to teach doctors how to basically bill patients and bill for what is insured. That's why a lot of doctors, they make money through insurance. Then sometimes the good doctors will. It's like, "Oh, you don't have the insurance, well, this will only be like 30 bucks." But if it's through your insurance, it'll be $1,200. It's crazy. Oh, it's so infuriating. Okay. Okay. Now I'm hot. Yeah. I am mad. I'm with you. Okay. When are we going to have the home colonoscopy kit? Because I don't like people rooting around in my knick-knacks. I want to do it myself. Yeah. I'll watch a YouTube video. I don't. I'm afraid people are going to be taking pictures. Yes. Well, here's the thing. Please don't knock me out and then fiddle with my pooper. You know what? This is like. I don't want to sound vain when I say this. But go on. Like, you're in a safe space. It's just us. Okay. Yeah. And everyone else listening. But I'm like, okay, this is. I'm really divulging a lot. I have to get a colonoscopy. Okay. And I'm like. And I was on reality TV for a brief moment in time. Sometimes people. Sometimes people recognize me. Yeah. What are the odds? I'm knocked out on my belly. Uh-huh. There's a lot of nurses and a lot of people in healthcare watch the vashlor. Oh my god. You look like vashlor. Literally what they did with John Rivers. They took pictures of her when she was. When she was out. Oh my god. Yeah. Oh yeah. See? That's the thing. It's because it's happened. It's terrifying. Like, it is literally worse. I don't care. Stick a. Stick a tube up my butt. I don't care. Everyone check your phone at the door. And nobody talk about this. Yes. Like, I know hippas a thing, but I know you girls like the chat. Like, I know. What have we seen on TikTok? Yeah. Exactly. Doctors and nurses dancing around. You know, and then there was that one women's clinic where they were making fun of. Yes. Yeah. No, exactly. We should probably take this above the waist, but it's all that to say. Let's all get scans. Yeah. As a family. And somebody come out with an at-home colonoscopy kit. And we will can. And don't tell me that in Switzerland, they don't have that. You know, they do. In some European country where they are way more highly evolved than we are, they're doing their own colonoscopies. Do you think they would try to do an at-home colonoscopy kit in St. Dennis Medical? I bet Joyce would try to formulate that. In fact, you've just inspired me. Wow. I'm going to pitch that to the writers. Oh my gosh. Honestly, higher Mary. She's an incredibly comedic. She's a good ideas person. She's incredible. And like the Chicago shirt, she's wearing it. Yeah, it's been did she. She's beautiful. Who did. Did anyone inspire you for that role? Because at Beyoncé, kind of gives a little Michael Scott in the office energy? You know, I've heard that, but that's okay. I took that a lot of her mannerisms from a boss I used to have. Okay. I used to work at this terrible little hotel. near Disneyland and my boss, God help her, she tried so hard, but she worked hard, not smart. And she was always coming up with these asinine ideas for things. But her heart was in a good place and she was a good boss and she cared about us. But she, nothing she did made any sense. There was always a much easier way to do things and she just couldn't find it. But she had these brainstorms of you know what we're going to do. I'm going to make Christmas presents for all our clients. I'm going to make them myself. And what I'm going to do is I'm going to get malt balls and I'm going to call it reindeer poop and I'm going to put them in a bundle and give them out to our clients. I love her. No one wants that. I love her. Here's some reindeer poop. That is not a professional. That's what you do when you come stand and throw them at us. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, bless her heart. She's no longer with us. But I took a lot of her work, ethic and kind of I'm going to Jolly everybody out of the fact that they have to work overtime. I'm going to give you pizza. That's much better than earning money. You know, are there any other characters you've developed, either from real people or not, that you would like die to play in a future show or movie? Oh wow. Yeah. Oh gosh, there's so many. Okay, so one character I played on a short lived show I was on in 2007 called Love Spring International. It was a completely improvised show about an online dating service in the valley that would not go online. I say an online dating service. There were a video dating service like from the 80s, but they just never made the transition. We are going to stay on VHS for the rest of our lives. We will not, we don't need the computer. So I played a woman who was a, who was a matchmaker, who herself had been dating a married man for several decades. And her own life was so terrible, you would not want this woman trying to find out for you. But it was me, Jane Lynch, Sam Pancake, Jack Plotnick, it was like a lot of good people in it and only ran 13 episodes, but it was really fun. But I would like to resurrect that character again. I mean, it's kind of the perfect time to bring that back too. It's like with like dating apps and nobody likes that. Having a VHS company, everyone's a VHS with the past. Yeah, I'd say that at this point, obsessed to go back to tape. It's like, are you looking for an old soul? Someone who doesn't know technology. Well, we have the person for you. Yeah, I'd sign up swipe left, press rewinds. That's more efficient. What are you enjoying? Not enjoying Carmella's a new addition to the OCcast? Carmella's very interesting, but I couldn't care less about her boyfriend and the fact that he cheated six years ago or whatever it is. We can stop bringing that up. But I do like her. I want to learn more about her business and she's just as pretty as can be. I do want to hear more about her past. That is like her marriage. But I like the way she stands up to people. Yeah. No, like the playboy of it all. The wrestling. Yeah, all that stuff. But yeah, she's interesting. I thought personally she might. She reminds me of someone that might be in the Miami cast. But then after watching Ultimate Girls Trip, I changed my mind on that because then I was like, oh, wait. No, no, she's not. And that Ultimate Girls Trip gives me Agito. So why can't I stop? Why am I watching it? I was going to ask how you liked it this season. I scream at the television. Okay. Why are you doing another white party? Yeah. How many costumes are you people expected to buy? It's insane. Yeah. Because again, they're not theater kids like us. Yeah. There's isn't like when we do it. Yeah. It's like, it's organic. It's a situation. We already own it. Yeah, about Luanne's 35 minute, type five. Oh, oh, that was so tough. She's a theater kid. That was so tough. And yeah, Luanne, we sure didn't see it going that way. Did we? The, the countess. But bless her heart. You know, she's playing the bongos on stage and people are paying. Bless her heart. Yeah, she's getting it done. Always in the front of the picture. Yeah. Yes, she is. Because someone who knows how TV is made. And we had it in this most recent episode of OC. One of my favorite things to laugh at with housewives is when they have the parties on Bravo. Because it's always like eight people. Because they can't get enough of extras. Yeah. They don't want to like, they, you know, they have the drama. And it's always like this. Right. It always looks like the most pathetic party you've ever gone to. Which is so like because they're always in formal wear. Yeah. In the backyard. And you can feel the emptiness of these parties. And then you have, and then you just like, you can tell like, all right, fake dance for five minutes while we, we, we will, we get this beat. Yes. Dance with no music. Yeah. Because we've all heard that's what happened. Yeah. The copy. See that we've seen behind the curtain. And now we don't watch it the same. So now when I see a conflict, I'm like, okay, some producer told Alexa to storm out. Oh, yeah. We had John Janssen also this episode. What? If you're like, he, that man must love to be just like, love a ritual, a humiliation ritual. Because like, the man's never been talked about positively on that show. He's always the butt of the joke. He should like, he shows up in this tuxedo. And then you have Shannon being like, yeah, I had a rent a tuxedo for him. And like, what true or not true, he just sounds and looks like such a loser. And I'm like, why are you? Why are you still showing up to these things? Like, are you? Are you? I really think he's one of those guys who like is a housewife hopper. You know, like, he's just trying to, he's just trying to get famous and be on TV and the closest thing you can do that is to snag a housewife. That is how it's coming across. Yeah. I just don't get why he's would want to, why would he want to do that? Like, what? What, what's percolating underneath that he wants to bring forth? Like, it can't be an acting career. Does he have an invention or does he just want some brand deals so he can? I don't know. I don't know. But yeah, he is working from the Slade smiley handbook. Just keep showing up. He really does. You know, just keep showing up. Yeah. Are you, are you, are you not watching Salt Lake? Are you not into that one? I never got into Salt Lake. Really? Yeah. Why? I mean, I'm sure people must have told you it's good. It's been resistant to it. Well, it's good. But I mean, aren't they all the same? No, I don't know. I don't know. There's something in the, maybe it's the salt in the lake. There's something in these women's brains that like, I mean, you watch the Gen Shaw lore of it alone. You watch her get arrested by the FBI on camera. And that's not the craziest thing that happens. You know, well, now you've peaked my interest. See, for a long time, I didn't watch any of them. I took like a six year break to cleanse my mind. Now I'm off the wagon and just, you know, like I said, screaming at the television. When I have my own problems, I should be focusing on. But, yeah, I did get into the Rhode Island ones. You did. And I've been watching those Mormon wives. You have sweet Lord in heaven, sweet Lord, baby, Jesus. And they have an OCEO coming as well. Do we need that? Do we need it? I guess someone thinks it depends on who you ask. Yeah. Have you been keeping up with the Mormon wives? I sure have because, you know, I think it was Whitney on one of the first episodes. She said, yeah, we're expected to get married really young. We don't know our bodies. We don't know anything about sex because no one teaches us anything. And we aren't supposed to be having it. And then we're supposed to pop out a bunch of kids. Well, yeah, that is, that's what it's looking like. But you, it seems like you're all like divorce is not a problem. Yeah, totally because some of them are pretty young and have an aren't on their second or third marriage. So that's an interesting contrast. I wonder what the Church of LDS thinks about those shows. Like, do they feel like, okay, you're really, I don't know what you're doing here. You're making us look like we're insane. But I think as a viewer, as someone who didn't know much about the Mormon lifestyle, like drinking dark cola is a problem, but you can swing. I don't know. Well, I don't think I don't even get the dark cola. - That's the problem. - They can drink coffee 'cause of caffeine. - Yeah. - Yeah. - But like drink all the soda you can possibly handle. - Yeah. - And depending on, you know, which kind of, or how Mormon you are, sometimes ice coffee's okay. Because it's not a hot drink. It's something about it being a hot beverage. - The devil's temperature. - It is the devil's temperature. - And I have to say, when I drink a latte, I get evil. - Yeah. - I want you to feel the sin and your body, you know. - I want to sin all over the place. - Wow. - Well, apparently the LDS latte, ring it in. And again, St. Dennis comes out on November 2nd. Anyway. (laughing) - Yeah. - Well, the LDS Church says that the show is a sensationalized and accurate portrayal that does not reflect typical active members or the core principles of their faith. - Good comedy. - So it seems they're not super into it. - Wow. - Interesting. - Yes, it's interesting. - It's a fact that they made a statement is amazing though. - Yeah. - Imagine, you know, like imagine doing a show and like a Pope's like, you know what? No. This is not who we are. - Right, yeah. It happened to Madonna and it's happened to the Mormons. To have religious institutions frustrated. So good company. - Good company. - Well, technically that's not a statement. It was just a consensus of the members in the church. - Well, how did we-- - Never mind. - Who, what do you mean it was it? Like who pulled all the members of the church? - Church. - Oh, you know there's a message board out there somewhere. - It's just what people are saying. - Yeah, it's on line. - They're all the Mormons. - Okay. - And they're getting not read it under assumed names and talking trash. - Oh man. - Exactly. - Oh, go ahead. - Oh, no. I actually lost my thought. Go on. - I was just thinking to your point, the divorce not being an issue. I do find it interesting. It's like they believe their body is a temple, but it's very surface level in the sense that they're like, your body is a temple. You must protect it and treat it right and, you know, maintain this image at all costs including plastic surgery, if it risks your health. They're like, that's us, lips, everything, like your body is a temple, but only based on what it looks like. You know? - That's interesting. Yeah. - My body is a temple. So, all are welcome. - Yeah. (laughs) - Come on in and worship. - No, there's a lot of loopholes in there. - I love loopholes. - I love a loopholes. - You know, America runs on loopholes. - This is true. I think if I were a Mormon, I would be in that loophole category, not just swinging, I don't think, but like, other, I'd be drinking the ice coffee. - Oh, yeah. - Flagrantly drinking the ice coffee. - Yeah. - Exactly. - And, oh, even. - Oh. - Yeah. - You know, on this season, this current season, Whitney is saying, you know, well, I'm doing Chicago on Broadway. Will I ever go back to mom talk? - No! No, you will not. - And you shouldn't. - You escaped it. - Yeah. - You got to be on Broadway. Go in that direction. - Mm-hmm. - I don't want to hear about this mom talk anymore. That's not why we're watching at this point. - Right. - That was your point of entry, but we don't care about your little dancing in sweatsuits, matching sweatsuits. - They don't really do that much anymore. I mean, every once in a while, I'm sure they do like a TikTok trend, but like the whole, the whole, like, to Wendy's point, the whole, like, mom talk thing. Because that's not really still going on. - I think they've all gone in different directions. - Yeah. - Haven't they? I mean, and listen, enterprising ladies, good for you. You made something. - Yeah, absolutely. - You built something. That's not, that's impressive that it got as far as it did. But my God, like, why is that a question? No, you're not going back. - Mm-hmm. - Those girls treated you like crap. - Mm-hmm. - Yeah. - Period. - Anyway. - And she's on Broadway now. Or was on Broadway. - I think she's going back. - To just in time, or what is it that Bobby Darren musical? - That's so cool. - Anyway, good for her. I've never been on Broadway, but so well. - Oh, that was my next question. Was that something you'd want to do? - Yes, it is. Something I'd want to do. - Well, let's get you on. - But I have no Neenie leaks. - Let's get you on. - I have no Whitney, what's her phrase? - Love it. - For Reese. - Oh. - Who's it? Reese Weaver. - (laughs) - Do you sing? - Ish. - That's enough. - That's enough. - That'll get you there, honey. - Sing talk with the best of 'em. - Yeah. - I feel like a lot of the reality TV people who have been on Bravo are like in Sing-ish, so. - Yeah, listen. Bring it down here and I can make something happen. - I heard a little of the Broadway at the end of that. (laughs) - I heard a little of it. - It's more than I can do. (laughs) - Would you ever do the musical cats because of your love for cats? - Oh, you have eight. - You have eight. - Correct. - Which I love. - Now we're back down to settle. - Oh no, I'm sorry. - We had a, someone crossed the rainbow bridge a couple weeks ago. - Lesson. - What was your question? - Oh, would I ever do cats? (laughs) - Oh, I don't think that'll ever be an issue. I don't think anyone is gonna-- - No, no, no. - But I would do, you know what I wanted to. I want to play more Tisha Adams on Broadway if they bring that back. - Could that be fun? - I love the Adams family. So much. - Mm. - That would be your dream Gomez to your Morticia. - Mm. - Ooh. Oh, that, I'm gonna-- - You know what? - Seedrick, you are, bro. - Okay. - I would love to do a musical with Seedrick. He is such a good singer, by the way, and he's really funny. - So we're bringing back Reno again. (laughs) - Again. (laughs) - And then we're gonna parlay that. - He would be an amazing Gomez. - And to an Adams family Broadway reboot. - You know what? I'm really glad I came here today because we are just putting things out into the universe. - So we're gonna fix our medical system. - Yeah. - We're gonna be in charge of our own colon polyps. - We're gonna poop at home. - All right. - Yes. Only at home. - Never anywhere else. - Yes. - We're gonna get scanned. We're gonna all get on Broadway by any means necessary. - And we may-- - Yeah. - What else did we-- What else are we gonna do? - We're casting shows. - The casting shows. - We're bringing the online dating show. - You know what? The name of this podcast needs to be called the vile think tank. - Think vile think tank. - Because this is where good ideas are generated. - We came up with an episode for St. Dennis Medical. - Yes. - Yes, you did. - Yes, you did. - The at-home medical kit. - Thank you. - Don't forget about that, Wendy. - Thank you all. - I won't forget. - Please come back. - Yeah, if you make that happen, please come back and-- - I will look straight at the camera while filming and say. - Yes. - Wendy, this has been so much fun before we let you go. Give us one more just housewife hot take. Either something you hope to see in the upcoming episodes that you're watching or maybe like a casting idea of a housewife you wanna come back or maybe someone who like a former actor, actress out there, maybe Aula like a Denise Richards. So you like, you know, maybe they could make it as a housewife. - I would like Jennifer Tilly to be promoted to-- - Yes. - Full-time housewife. She is so entertaining. I love watching her. I think there needs to be a real housewives of New Orleans. Also, there should be a real housewives of Nashville. I don't know why they haven't gotten on that. That seems like a no-brainer. - It does seem like a no-brainer. - Yeah, you know. - And a lot of people in entertainment in Nashville wanting to stay on TV. I think there are conversations happening, to be honest, in that department. - Well, I can't wait to do that. - They're casting women who, it's like, well, if you all came together and made a show, they could call this housewives. And I feel like that's, I know some people who know some people who have been doing some casting in the Nashville area. Maybe it'll happen. And are they actual housewives? Because we've kind of lost that. - Many of them are not. - A lot of them are not. - Many of them are the ones I'm aware of are, many of them are not. - 'Cause I like to see how the husbands react. - Wendy, this has been so much fun. - Yeah, thank you for having me. - Please come back. - It's so fun. - I'll do it. - Wait, how many litter boxes do you have? - Let's see, we have seven kitties, which means we have nine boxes. - Oh, yeah. - That's lovely. - I was expecting, I don't know, I don't know, cats. - Like three. - I'm allergic. - Yeah, I was expecting a lot. - No, you should always have more than. - It's beautiful. - Like one, at least one more than cats that you have. - Okay. - That's good to know. - And PS, does that mean everything makes it in to the box? No, it doesn't. She has her work cut out for herself. - Are you sensitive to the cat lady, moniker? - Oh, I just lean straight into it. Why hide it. - You are who we are. - I'm always covered in cat hair, and I can't fight. I can't deny my natural instincts. You know, I'm too old. Do you have any litter robots? - We have tried that, and they did not like that at all. They did not trust it. They're like, I am not, it was like me with a colonoscopy. No, thank you. Not near my nethers. - Wendy, thanks again for coming. The St. Denis Medical, it is out November 2nd. - Yes, November 2nd, on NBC, next day on PC. - Streaming on PC. - Catch up with all previous seasons on PCOQ or on Netflix. - Oh, okay. - Okay, you have the option now. - Yeah, okay. - Wendy, it was so great to have you. It was an honor. I appreciate you taking the time. - Thank you, thanks for having me. - It was so much fun. Thanks for coming. - All right, thank you. - Bye bye. - Well, I'm sorry you had to miss Wendy. - No, heartbroken that I missed it. - Now he was on that field trip and didn't make it back in time. But she was so great. Like I said, she didn't remember, but I met her a long time ago. And she was so nice to me. And it was exciting to have her on all these years later. Unfortunately, even though she's a big Bravo fan, she doesn't watch Salt Lake City. So here we are breaking down the last episode. - If you learn nothing from this episode, you need to learn that like color contexts are not it. I don't know what Angie was doing, but it just goes to show like that. - It had to have been a stylist thing. Like you, these would be so slay. You have to wear these and like, - Do you think we're gonna get all season long? We're gonna get this look? - They'll use that one interview that I'm sure last year. - Throughout the season. - Yeah, throughout the season. - It did not look good. - It is never look good on anyone. It looks so unnatural. It looks so crazy. One time I had a friend of mine who dated this guy and he had the most insane blue eyes. Like they were like captivating. They were just so crazy. One day she was doing his laundry and found the contacts in his pants pocket. And she was like, what the fuck is this? And he had brown eyes. - And she didn't know. - She had no idea. And turns out he had been just faking this whole time with his colored contact lenses. - Well, yeah. I had a friend who's a girl with piercing colored blue eyes. I don't know if it's blue or green. And she was deadly realized that she was definitely wearing contacts and lying about it. But like, I don't know what angel like, it 'cause it went back and forth between the ITMs and then like these scenes. And like she's got beautiful brown eyes. I mean, she's a beautiful woman. And like these colored contacts just made her look kind of spooky. - No, she did look spooky. She was kind of playing in Halloween. - Yeah, I just like, oh my God, just what a teaching moment for everyone. Maybe that's what she was trying to do. It's like a cautionary tale to her daughter or something. - Also, she really carried on the two's first thing the entire episode. - I love this new housewife. Her intro in the Harley was pretty iconic. And she's rich, which I love. I told everyone I've been like a Lisa Barlow apologist, but this episode was a tougher one to support because like she's definitely lying about the Oscars invite. - What do you mean? You've been invited to the Oscars? - No, I haven't. Like literally when I was the Bachelor, I was like hoping like, you know, I had some pull as the Bachelor and I reached out literally to Rob Mills. And I was like, if there's any chance, you can get me into the Oscars. And he's like, I'll try and never happened. I mean, yeah, the Oscars is like, it's the Oscars. I don't, they're not just inviting-- - But you've been to like, what? You've been to the Golden Globes. You've been to the-- - I've been to the Golden Globes. It's not the same as the Oscars, but like I also, I had a front, I like snuck in, I won, I worked the Golden Globes one year and the other year I essentially snuck in because I had a friend like running, working for the Golden Globes. And I got to like, yeah, I was not invited that way. - He found his way in. - But like, they don't think they put out, I don't think they just invite random people to the Oscars. - Well, she's friends with Ben Affleck. So maybe like Ben's in her and invite. - I guess. I just think, I don't know why she makes up stories like that. I don't know, it's, I definitely think she's lying instead of his other. Do you think you're a smothering parent? Like Meredith, or like Seth thinks Meredith is? - Uh, do you think I'm a smothering parent? - No, but-- - Why does it have a question mark on it? - Because you might have the potential. - Okay, explain. - Well, I think Rivers two, our kids are too young to really know, you know? Because right now she's so reliant on us. But like when she starts being more and more independent and wanting to like, I don't know, like go play with friends and where you're not gonna, you know, I don't know. How old do you feel like you're gonna let her-- - I'm surprised I let her go to preschool. (laughs) So I feel like that's pretty good. That's a pretty good start. - Yeah. I think you have the awareness not to be one. I think your instincts are to maybe-- - I mean, I always want us to be obsessed with each other. And like the second that she's like, mom's not cool and I'm gonna go hang out with my friends, I will be heartbroken. - When do you think that happens? - I don't know, probably sooner than I hope. I would think like 13, but it's probably gonna be like nine. We're something crazy. - It's gonna suck. - I just got my hair cut today and the couple who was cutting my hair, the husband was cutting my hair and then his wife was like, hanging out with us. And they were, they have a nine-year-old daughter and they were talking about like Halloween and what to dress up as. And they were like, oh, what are you all gonna do? And I was like, I hate Halloween. I don't like to dress up, it's so stupid. But obviously for my daughter, we'll dress her up. She was like, oh, why don't you be Wednesday Adams for Halloween. And she was like, we think it would be so cool. Like we would be the mom and he'd be the dad and she'd be Wednesday and she was like, because y'all think it's cool, it's so stupid. At nine years old, being like y'all think it's cool. So it's gotta be dumb. - That's heartbreaking. - I know, it's gonna come so fast. - What would you do if some of the airport came up to you and said, you're not wearing green, can I pinch you? - Honestly, they need to go to jail for that. That was so unfor-- - That was brutal. - That was unbelievable. What was she doing? - I would feel so violated. I'd be like, please don't ever-- - She didn't even wait for a response. - And she's like, I'm gonna put this on TikTok. - Is that a thing? I've never heard of that. You dress up green and just-- - No, no, no, no, if you don't wear green, you're gonna get pinched. - Never heard of that. - Really? - No. I didn't know that was a thing. - Really? On St. Patrick's Day, if you don't wear green, I'll say Patrick's Day, you get pinched. It's like a leprechaun. - Yeah, you know that, for real? - I've never had someone try to pinch me. - Did you always wear green? - Never. - Oh. - Rarely. - Well, I do like green, but I've often not wore green on St. Patrick's Day. I mean, I love Brittany, but I was-- Meredith was 100% right in that moment. They call her obnoxious. - Yeah, she was definitely being obnoxious, brutal. - I just couldn't have met. I would just be like, no, absolutely not. - Yeah. - No, thank you. Please don't touch me. - And weren't two of them in wheelchairs? Like-- - Yeah, she picked on the elderly. She didn't even get their response times a little slower, you know? - Yeah. - She's like, you're not wearing green, can I pinch you? Also, like, why do they go to San Francisco for St. Patrick's Day? St. Patrick's Day, San Francisco is not one of the cities when you say St. Patrick's Day. I think that's where I wanna be for that holiday. - I think Savannah Georgia is the best place to be on St. Patrick's Day. - I wouldn't have thought that either. They have a big one. - I think we're on the list of one of the best parades for St. Patrick's Day. - Really? - Chicago in Milwaukee, Boston. Is San Francisco, like, am I just not aware? Is it like a known thing in San Francisco to have a big St. Patrick's Day thing? - It says the signature annual event draws tens of thousands of spectators and features over 100 floats. - Like in Milwaukee, all the bars stay open 24 hours on St. Patrick's Day and people will start St. Patrick's Day at like 6 a.m. - Oh, we would-- - People are taking off work. It's like a holiday in Milwaukee. - Same for Savannah. You have to get down to like, pitch your tent on the side of where like the parade runs through. I'd like 5 a.m. or you don't get your spot. - It's hard as cities go. What are, is there a list of the biggest St. Patrick's Day festivals in terms of cities? - It says New York 'cause they have a ton of marchers and they have like a parade along Fifth Avenue. Obviously, Chicago 'cause they do the river green there and have a parade on Michigan Avenue. - Is Milwaukee on this list? - Is Savannah on the list? - Yes, Savannah's on the list. - Yeah. - It don't seem a lot. - That's criminal. - Yeah. - I know. - We die our found green. - It's very chic. - That's criminal. We just drink in Milwaukee. - There's nothing to die green there. - There's a river. - No. - Is it already green? - Probably. - Okay. - More brown. - Beautiful. - No. They don't have much of a parade. Again, it's just, it's just drinking. - Oh, yes, you know, Savannah has like a legit parade. It's like a whole, no, it's so fun. - You've been to it? - Oh my god, yeah. - Okay. - It's like a, it's the thing to do in Savannah. - And apparently, San Francisco. - Wait, I know where we're spending St. Patrick's Day next year, Savannah. - Milwaukee. - Well, that will do it for today's episode. Thank you to our guest, Wendy McLean and Covey. And thank you all of you for listening. We'll see you back on Thursday. Bye-bye. - Bye. - See you. - Bye. - Bye. (laughs) (upbeat music)