E1197 - DWTS Behind The Scenes, Daniella Monet, Team Moms: Baseball w/ The Scoffone's & RHONY

(upbeat music) - What's going on everybody? Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Val Files Reality Recap Edition. I'm your host Nick Joyne, by the household and my wonderful wife. - Oh, it's forgotten me. - I didn't forget you, but I was just trying to mix it up. We got Jimmy and Susie in house as well. - How is everyone doing fresh off a very exciting night of dancing with the stars? - Very exciting, not a dancing star. Nick's also wearing his Madonna shirt. - I am wearing my Madonna shirt. Susie wasn't here. - Oh, there we go. - Okay. - I noticed it's not cropped. It's not cropped, but it is truly vintage 'cause you can smell the attic on it in the best possible way. - Does Natalie agree that it's the best possible way? - I haven't gotten-- - Well, we haven't, we haven't washed yet. It truly is vintage. 'Cause there are some people who try to make vintage t-shirts and sell it off as vintage, and it's just like they just screen printed it. - Totally. - It's a fantastic t-shirt. It is a little croppy, a little short. - It's short. - Now we're talking, make it breezy. - I think it was a great pair of slacks, you know, kind of like a baggy fit on the bottom. A little tighter t-shirt on top. - You have a couple rave bracelets. Maybe a bandana. - Oh wow. - Now we're getting crazy. - Maybe a fedora. - A fedora. - A fedora. (laughs) - Hey, we're not shading fedoras. I picked up on those at New York Fashion Week. - Oh, okay. - We have a jam-packed episode. It's locked and loaded full of dancing with the stars content. We have Daniella Monet returning to the Vowel files. Daniella was one of my first guests when we started the show way back when, and she was a big bachelor fan back in the day, and she came on recapping some bachelor episodes with us. - She's one of the OG stars from Victoria's. - Trina. - Trina Vega, and she is reprising her role in the new Hollywood arts that is coming out on Netflix October 15th. - She's also a big dancing with the stars fan, and we'll be joining us to break down last night's episode. Jimmy and Susie were in the audience, and also got a chance to interview many of the cast following the performances. So we're excited to hear some of the interviews that Jimmy and Susie obtained during last night's episode. Which ones were you most excited to talk to you guys? - I couldn't wait to talk to Guillermo just because I grew up watching him go into the NBA all-star game and stuff. So that was just cool to kick it with him and talk ball honestly backstage. - That's awesome. - But it was like so surreal. Thank you so much, honestly, just for the opportunity. Like, I feel like I just hit flow state, and I was just like going, not even like digesting what was happening, just like talking with everybody. Then afterwards I was like, what the fuck just happened? That was so cool. - Yeah, it always feels like that, and I don't wanna ever take it for granted, 'cause it really is so special. Guillermo was a highlight for me too, and I had like a very parasocial moment backstage where he walked through sort of like where the press is, like where the stars don't go, but he just like walked through very casually, like not above anybody, just kind of sat in our area, and it was just so genuine and sweet, and I literally wanted to call out his name like Guillermo. - Right, Guillermo, Brody. - Yeah, I felt like I could give him a hug. That's how parasocial it felt, where I was like, wait, I know you, but you don't know me. - It felt like that with everybody. - They were also like just cool, and we got way more time to talk with them than we anticipated, like again, if Mora wasn't first, probably would have found a way to shoot my shot in there, if I knew it as much time as we did, but. - We'll be back. - Yeah, facts. - You gonna crush him Mora, Jimmy? - Man, I might have to come with another, or not another, but a comparable Botega bag. - Oh, Botega's neck. - And that was Rob Broder. - No, he got a Burkin. - Burkin, okay, then. - But take it, be sure you. - Yeah, I support him. - Was there some chemistry between Victoria yesterday, Jimmy? I couldn't tell. - Man, you tell me because she ain't following me back. - But she knew. - Did I misread that? - Did you follow her? Victoria Follett? - What? - You talking about some hit my line, okay? - Okay. - We'll make sure you get a follow back, Jimmy. - Listen, I don't want you to force it. I don't want you to force the vibes. I want her to follow me. - She might not have seen it. She's a very popular girl, getting lots of follow throughout the day. She might, and she's one of those who doesn't check. She doesn't look. - Okay, yeah, let me check my side. - Maybe send her a DM. - We bag back, okay. I will say though, at Dancing with the Stars, we did pose the question we posed yesterday on the show regarding can you bring ice coffee to a job interview? Highly polarizing question. - Yes, it is. - And say the least. - I have, I feel like my conclusion about that was that if you are in a creative industry, if you're in the arts, slash if you are a star, what are they gonna say? You know what I mean? Everybody that came through that was, not everybody, but a lot of people were like, yeah, or they were like, I've never been to a job interview, so I think so. And it just made me realize I'm like, yeah, if you're creative, you get to do what you want. - But there were a lot of nose. It was like that's unprofessional. - Yeah, for sure. - To which I responded with, I think it's manufactured for. - I feel like you have to acknowledge it if you bring it in. It's a prop, like why you bring it in. - Yeah, what you got in there? What's your go-to coffee? - I just think like it depends on the job so much. Like if I'm expected to be business, casual, or above in my dress, I don't know that I should bring an ice coffee. - Look, I keep it in the office. - Well, like he said, yes, you better be on time. 'Cause if you're late, everyone's gonna be like, oh. - You had to stop and get a coffee. - You had to stop and get that coffee, didn't you? - Exactly, oh my gosh, it's so true. - But your priorities lie. We also have the scophones this episode following Daniela Monet, one of the couples from Team Moms, the new show on Paramount Plus produced by Kim Kardashian, a show that's all about the intense culture that is kids in sports. And I'm very excited to talk to those scophones about, the couple that got their 16 year old daughter, a Porsche, because they wanted to even out how much they spent on their kids. - The mother who called another little boy, little bitch. - Yeah. - Anyways, it's like I was just joking around. - Not like that. - I got so many questions just about the culture of youth athletics and how intense it is. I'm very excited to talk to scophones. So that is following Daniela Monet. It's a jam packed episode. Did you guys see that clip of Tom Cruise, who approached some, I don't know if she was a fan, I don't know. But this young lady was doom-scrolling. And I guess the internet was bringing her down. And I guess Tom Cruise noticed our thought she looked sad and came up to her and did a little mental health check on this young lady. - Wait, the internet, how did the internet know she was doom-scrolling? - I just mean she was doom-scrolling. And I guess she looked sad. - Yeah, she was crouched over on her phone and he thought she was maybe crying or in distress and he just checked in on her and she goes, "Oh, sorry, just doom-scrolling." - Where were they? - She was in the back kind of BTS of like a work environment. So maybe she was a server or something. It was like, how did Tom Cruise see her in the back of a restaurant? - He's very fascinating with people. - He was just passing by, it was like an open door. Celebrities, they're just like us. - Celebrities, they just wander through the kitchen at restaurants. (laughing) - Tom Cruise is one of those people who feels like he's not real. Like he shouldn't be walking this earth. - He's a skin walker or like a scroll from Marvel. - We saw Brad Pitt at a restaurant in LA. I saw him just on a glance. - He almost walked in on Natalie in the bathroom. - Unfortunately, I had the door locked. - I wish so. - I wish he had. - That queer post dissolving of the filler. - Oh. - I don't know. - I don't know. - You didn't stare and figure it out? - No. - Honestly, like he just walked past and it was like in the back, the side of my, I didn't even go to a good look, but I felt his aura and I was like, was that Brad Pitt? I didn't even go, I don't even feel like I could say that I really saw him in person. It was like a flash, but then we realized it was, in fact, Brad Pitt. - Can you imagine if I hadn't have locked the bathroom door and he would have walked in while I was like touching up my lip gloss? - Oh my gosh. - How iconic would that have been? I hate to say it, but it would have been kind of a meet cute. I hate to say it, but I kind of like, I think it would be beautiful. (laughing) - I'm sorry, Nick. - No, I didn't know that I might understand. - Yeah, Nick could be cool about it. - Yeah, that would be cool. - Is that a fair hall pass, Brad Pitt? - Are we going full hall pass? - Wait, in the bathroom, it's like, we're talking about a meet cute here. (laughing) - Love it. - Yeah. - I mean, if you want to watch me. - Do I get to watch? - I don't know. (laughing) - Well, I love the chair. (laughing) - And then Nick wants to go next after a few lives. - I think I would allow a hall pass for Brad Pitt or like Michael B. Jordan. - Is that your, who are your man crushes, Jimmy? - Yeah, Justin Bieber, Michael B. Jordan. - Yeah, Brad Pitt, specifically when he played Troy. - It's like there's some people that if your husband and/or wife was given the opportunity or the chance, like, is it really right for you to not let them, you know? - Who do I get to? - Yeah. - I think you want. - Yeah, how's it gonna say? - Who would you want? - I don't know. - I don't know who he wants. - What's the equal trade off here? - Deska Alba. - Me Hail, yeah. - Deska Alba's a good one. - Nick's like a Eva Longoria. - An Althecruz. - Do a Laetva. - Eva Longoria. - Who would yours be? - I don't know. - You got to know. - I don't really have family crushes. - That's a good answer. - Yeah, that's a good answer. - We applaud them. - But I was a one person and one person. - It's only funny when the girls say it. I'm like, oh, well, mine is. - I ain't gonna fall for that fucking trap. - Exactly. - But I just rattle off like five names over here. - You know, we're not the same, you know? I guess that's just, there are definitely some. from stereotypes that we believe in. - Like what? - Yeah. - Like it's just not the same to joke about that stuff. - Did you joke about what? - I don't know, like a hall pass. - Yeah, I don't know. - I don't care, we can joke about a hall pass. I know you're actually not gonna go fuck Penalty Cruz, so like. - No, I don't know. - You're just saying like we can talk about it, you know? I don't believe it'll actually happen, unless it does. - No, I told you about one celebrity, like not even a celebrity crush and then she followed me and then Natalie would be like, "Is that your girlfriend? Is that your girlfriend?" - Oh, that was, yeah. - That's okay, that was okay. - I was like, "Oh, that's your girlfriend." - It's your girlfriend. - I totally get it. 'Cause if you say the wrong name, you can't watch. No more movies when I was, no, no, no, no. - Your girlfriend has a, your girlfriend has a new movie. You're gonna go watch it? It's like, okay. - Right, I noticed you're not doom scrolling during this movie. - One time I said I was a fan. - Literally. It's like when, like when boobies come on the screen and you like look over at your man, like how hard are you looking right now, the screen? - Yeah, me and Monix, like Sidney Sweeney's new ad is such, it's so good. We love it. It's a living and powering. Okay, of course you like it. You horny freak. - I just think she is. - Can we actually play the clip for, you know, research purposes? - Research. - I just wanna watch the commercial again. I just wanna make sure I know what we're talking about here. - I respect her. - Oh, that's right. - Actually, I human. - Of course you do. You're her audience. - Thank you. - Exactly. - I mean, honestly, after watching Roni last night, the, I didn't realize Martha Stewart. - She's all over this season. - It has such a tongue on her. - Oh, oh. - Goodness gracious. - Yeah. - Honestly, Martha Stewart. - I don't know how she was coming. - Martha Stewart's your help us. - If I said I hooked up with my Martha Stewart, I think that would give me some serious aura. - That would be the coolest shit ever. - That would be-- - That would be the coolest shit ever. That would bring a ice coffee to a job interview. - Mostly because, like, on the, on the chance that she enjoyed the experience, she is the ultimate critic. And if Martha was like, - Ooh, that's true. - He's really good in bed. - What if she said, like, obviously-- - It's a, obviously you are, but what if she said you weren't? - It's a risk I'm willing to take. - Really? - Yeah. - I'm about to imagine how I feel. Now I have Martha Stewart being like, yeah, Natalie Joy's husband is bad in bed. - Again, I'm willing to take that risk. - That's a guy who's confident in his game right there. - 'Cause you know you won't be? (laughs) - Yay, well, Martha. - Speaking of confident, guys, Doug Mason, Taylor Frankie Paul's Bachelor at Finalist has moved on. He's released a very kind statement. He said, "I've officially moved on. "This is me saying I'm going that way." Meaning, another way. It was in my past and now I'm focusing on my future. What do we think about this? - I'm honestly sad for all those men. It's, I really thought they were gonna air that season. And like, knowing what they went through and knowing that, like, no one will ever see it. And there's this kind of, Doug got done filming. Again, don't know what his mental health state was being in a relationship. It's awful, very difficult. But like, they no doubt had a lot of fun fantasizing about what this experience would bring them and all that fun stuff. And then just absolutely nothing happened. - And then did we ever find out if Taylor told him that she cheated on him with Dakota? Like, we didn't see that in season five, did we? - I don't think it was filmed, but he definitely found out. - Yeah. - Obviously. Maybe through the show, maybe in private, but I can see if she did. - I personally feel like these guys should be compensated because when you want the bachelor, you don't get paid anything, not even a stipend. And that's a lot of time to give up. And it is a trade-in. Like, to me, when I went on the show, I was like, well, if I'm here for one night, then like, okay, I'll go home and go back to work and or whatever. But like, if I was there for two months, it's like, I like came out and was like, I am broke. And it's kind of a sacrifice. It's like, I don't know, I feel like they should be compensated for their time. - That would probably be the right thing to do. The kind of the catch-22 is, I'm sure there are probably people on the internet being like, oh, you should sue them and you should get like all the guys together for some kind of class action lawsuit. But like, I, or it's been off. - They could, but like, they would never work in this industry again. So is it really worth it on the, like, to burn that bridge? It's just, you know. And how much would they pay them, you know? - It wouldn't be worth it, yeah, like what? There's no. - Yeah. That's the thing is I'm like, it should be something, I hate to say silly, but I'm like, 500 a week, like whatever the standard, like, I don't know, production. There's gotta be some sort of like standard. I just wish, I just, for them, I'm like, that would just be such a bummer. So like, I mean, it's like just nobody is tough. - Nobody knows who any of them are, you know? Which is like, we hear Doug Mason, like, okay, that's probably the most notable name because he's the one who won. But like the rest of them, we probably would have had our favorites and have known them and they would have been getting brand deals or club appearances. - If someone would have been the next bachelor. - Yeah. - Don't know what's gonna go on there. Well, before we get to Dan Yella, don't forget the Valfauss Plus is available and add free for all you Valfa listeners out there. And if you do sign up, you will enjoy what you get because we dive deep in all your favorite topics with our reality recap deep dives where we really break down all your favorite shows. We also just break down life and questions and we wax poetic about the things that are bothering us. This week we'll dive deep into the shows that we haven't talked about that are rockin' and rolling like special forces, Lindsey Clancy's lawyers out there making more of a mess on stuff. And I'm sure you guys all have a lot of opinions and we do too and we'll dive deep into all that. Plus, we'll probably get into some more conversations about the secret lives of Mormon wives O.C. style. Well, what we're excited about that and so much more so to sign up, just go to Valfauss.com. And like I said, all your episodes of Valfauss plus are add free. So, decide up, just go to Valfauss.com. You'll be glad that you did. Well, Danielle Monet is here and she is ready to talk about dance with the stars. We also have the trailer of the secret lives of Mormon wives O.C. And that is out. So excited to check that out. Danielle is also a fan of the secret lives franchise. So we'll get her take on the O.C. women as well as talk about everything going on in her life and she's up next. Danielle, welcome to the show. Oh, welcome back, actually. Oh, thanks. Thanks for having me. Do you remember being on here the first time? Oh my gosh, you guys are so freshly postpartum. My brain is like, I think I just associated from that whole era. Like I remember nothing from that period of time. Yeah, I just remember trying really hard to like integrate back into real life and like, you know, pretending, you know, just sitting there thinking nobody knows that I'm just like lactating and they've got a baby in the other room. Oh, thanks for letting him come by the way. It was on here by the way. It was he was born on your birthday. I remember that because it was just your birthday. Oh my gosh. Really? September 28th? Yeah. What the gosh. We have the same birthday. What's your sign? Libra. Yeah, Libra. Yeah, what did you do for your son's birthday? Did you have a big party? We didn't. I'm not good at those. I fail in the party department for the kids. But we just did like a nice, my son is obsessed with dinner parties. He is a seven year old who wants a nice dinner party. It's awesome. Asks for one on the reg. So of course for his birthday, we tend to just lean into a nice dinner party and he gets dressed up. So take your order. He has a whole thing. What is he wearing? What is he wearing? He's got a name card on his seat. What is he wearing? He'll like check it off. He wears like a little three-piece suit. Oh my gosh. He's like, serve the wine and-- Oh, you know, he'll serve the body. Yeah, he'll bring the plates, the bread, the butter. Like, he'll take your order. I'm going to need to see photo. I need to see photo. If you asked him for a proper tip, maybe. Jimmy, did you ever have an error in your life where you had to suit up on a regular basis? I mean, actually in high school for basketball games, you had to come to school with your shirt tie. That was the extent of it. Oh, that's cute. Yeah, I enjoyed it. In corporate America, I used to wear a full suit every day for work. Wow. I kind of miss having a reason to wear a suit. You guys, I'm not going to lie. I worked at a Hibachi girl, and I had to wear a chef's coat. Wait, wait, I'll not actually do the Hibachi. I didn't do the Hibachi, but I had to wear like a chef's out. Like, we had to wear like a chef fit. With top hat and shit. I didn't wear the hat. It was just like a high collar like crossover. It was a nice Japanese-- like, it was like a steakhouse sushi Hibachi. Wow. Yeah. It really wasn't, but now it is. You know, because I'm like doing well for myself. It was a negative war at the moment. Yeah. My little sister came for like her high school prom dinner. I had to serve them. That's why he said that, because we just said that to the kids recently. We were like, all this like hoopla around how you're going to spend your kids' birthday. I'm like, I used to go to Benny Hanna's. It would be like one dinner, and that was it. And it was a big to do. And why was it always Hibachi? It really was. I don't know how much you sit. Because there's like, in her team, and it's like kids are just like, it is. Because yeah, there's a volcano onion. Yeah. They're throwing eggs. Yeah. Catch it in their head. Yeah. I used to just want a bouncy house. That's all everyone's my birthday. That's fun. Did you ever get one? Oh, yeah. Oh, nice. Okay. I got River. So for her second birthday, I thought we were going to have a party here at the house. And then we ended up going through an ice storm and lost power for two weeks. So the party did not happen. We ended up just taking a trip. But I bought her this bounce house because I was like, oh, this will be so fun for like kids to jump on. We'll put it in the backyard, whatever. And obviously never used it. And then randomly one day, like recently, I was like, oh, my gosh, we have this bounce house. We should blow it up. And now it is like the everything, everything, bounce house, house, house, so simple, so simple and pure. Yeah. We told our kids recently, well, I think it maybe was a couple of birthdays ago when they the wear with all was like, listen, we can do a party. We can do it. We can serve all your friends. It's super stimulating, like trying to like deter them. And then I'm like, or however old your turning, we can travel to a place that far. So whether it's car or plane, you can choose where you want to go. And so we almost got suckered into that this year. But my husband has something wrong with his sciatica. So traveling was kind of out of the question. But geo is fine because he was happy with the dinner party. But now I'm thinking next year it's going to be like, you know, Hawaii or Japan. I don't know. So like hours of travel, basically to their age. So yeah, hours. Yeah. That's great. So we gotta catch that. Yeah. Next year. We're going to Dubai. Yeah. What if they choose a place that's like really far, really expensive? How are we? Are we just going? You're like, listen, I mean, hopefully we can just like stick to it. I figured like, you know, how far can you go? Right. There's only so many places in the world. And also like, I guess that's our trip. Like that's a big experience for us. And we kind of have to plan ahead accordingly. Or they could choose a dinner party or another dinner party. I love how he's serving the dinner party. He's not like attending the party. He wants to work. He wants to. I don't know what it is. He's like, here's your table. It's a whole bit. Yeah. So to answer your question. It's been a long time since I've seen you guys when you went from being this big to now serving everyone. Well, before we get into all things dancing with the stars and some reality TV, you are reprising your infamous, not infamous. Is infamous a good word or a bad word? I think it's bad, right? Is it bad? I don't know. I said infamy yesterday. I think you can go either way. You're reprising your iconic legend. Legendary Trina Vega. It's called Hollywood Arts. Yes, Hollywood Arts. I love so much. I'm stoked, dude. It's a wild, you know, kind of full circle moment for me. I took a lot of time off from acting. And so to come back and sort of have sort of like a dream, dream little role, obviously, and also just have such like a fun. I'm big on alignment. And I also feel like it all kind of just fell into place the way it was supposed to. And here we are doing the most with this one, doing my big one. Like, did you ever think when victorious ended? Did you ever think that you would play this role again? Did that ever cross your mind? No, yeah. No, not me. You know, I don't know if this is good or bad, but I feel like there's a part of me that has a little bit of like an imposter syndrome when I look back at victorious a little bit because I was several years older than everyone else. And I was almost like the butt of the joke. I always felt like I was like the Lucille ball of the cast, which I'm all I'm fine with because I love her. And that's kind of like what I gravitate towards. But also it just felt like it was them and then me. So it's wild to be here. And now, you know, the only one back essentially is a series regular. That's really crazy. Have you kept in touch with that cast much? Yeah, we've kept in touch. I would say out of everything I've worked on, the victorious cast is unique in that like there's an ongoing chat, you know, and like it's not as active that everyone's like very busy and very famous. But no, there's like a really cool bond that I don't know that you could repeat. I kind of feel a little bit of that with the Hollywood Arts cast because there's the lore of victorious. And so they watched it and they know the feelings are just like it's so mutual amongst them. They're so excited to be a part of something like this. And for any performer who grew up, you know, wanting to be on a show or like a Nick or Disney show or wanted to sing or dance, it's all of that in one. And so they just are amp to be there. And it feels like we have this kismet energy like off the jump. Wow, so amazing. Yeah. How old is your daughter? She's five and a half. Has she watched victorious or not? Yes, actually before the summer before I started filming Hollywood Arts, I let them sit and watch some episodes because they had never they did not know what I did. And the concept of mom like leaving to work was like so foreign. I had to like introduce the idea of like me leaving them. And so I said, well, mom was on a show. And they kind of had an idea of what they had heard of victorious and they had heard of Trina because they went to a summer camp. My son went to a summer camp. And the counselors like blew my cover. They were like, oh my gosh. And my someone looked at me like with four eyes. Like, who are you? What is this? And I was like, well, there's music. And so I like introduced the soundtrack for some like victorious was like there's songs on Spotify. Like we listen to Spotify. So I started with that. And then they like realized later on when I told them, okay, we're going to watch the show. They were like, this is a whole universe. And they loved it. And so it helped me like ease them into the idea of me going to like create something that was similar. And it gave them context. And so yeah, that helped. Can I ask how it came about? Like did they approach you? And they're like, hey, we have this idea, but we want to make sure you're on board. Yeah. So when I decided to come back to work, I got this great manager and I met with hallmark. My hallmark was like my dream because I was like, you know what? I was on Nickelodeon for decades. It felt I want to be a part of like a family that kind of like does the same thing a little bit. Like I'm looking for some job security here in that family friendly space. And hallmark seemed to tick that box. So I was actually doing a hallmark movie. My first job back, my first job away from the kids, like feeling all the feels I was walking around Vancouver one weekend, like missing everyone, just kind of in awe of like what is going on. And I get a call believe it or not it from Jake Farrow, who was one of our writers on victorious. And he goes, hey, I got this idea. And I wanted to run it by you. Like it's called Hollywood Arts. You would come back as a teacher, like kind of like gave me the short run of it. And I remember thinking like this is why this is kind of a lot. And also thinking like I've been in this business long enough to know that a lot of these ideas are simply just ideas. Yeah. And we can go on pitch. We can go to and it's just a whole worker. And like we'll see, right? Yeah. So I thought with the idea of it being so big and so like congruent to victorious. And there'd been so many years that like people wanted a reboot. Like there's just no chance that this would happen. Loan behold. We dove right in. I ended up reading the script and loving it. And it was within like the next like two years or so that it came to fruition, you know, over and then Netflix picked it up, which is yeah. That had been exciting because of in terms of all the streamers and all the options out there, you know, Netflix. They're the behemoth, right? And it's obviously it's a competitive landscape even in the Netflix universe. But like that must have felt really good to have a streamer like Netflix believe in this project. Yeah. That one really threw me. Yes. You know, I had been on Nickelodeon for several years. And Nickelodeon at the time and that time in the world had some like we could go great ratings. Like when you look at ratings now, we're like, whoa, I remember one day we got the ratings for victorious. And they were like more than American Idol, more than Super Bowl. Like we were just like what is happening? And this is Nickelodeon. This is just like a cable channel. So it was a different world. And I'm still wrapping my head around what it means to be in this whole streaming universe. But of course, Netflix in my mind is it just feels like home, you know, and I get it because during like I don't know like 2020, 2021, I think victorious came out on Netflix. And so a lot of people that watched victorious recently in the last like five years know it as being like a Netflix show. So there's such a strong fandom there and such a strong audience. So like the comp was good enough for Netflix to go, well, yeah, like we'll we'll do this, you know, do you feel like you caught the bug again? Like now that you got back into acting, like do you want to continue in that world? Yeah, you know, it's cool. It's like it's such a different stage because I played a kid for so long. And even though when I stepped away, I was in my early 30s, I came back and it feels like for the first time I'm playing an adult. And so now it almost feels like an entirely new career for me. And I'm loving it. Like a second one. Yeah, I was like, wait a second. Yeah, I have to like check myself sometimes. I'm like, am I an adult? Yeah, I am. I can do this. You did grow up like on TV. Yeah. And I mean, now you got kids, you ever think about like them falling in the same kind of footsteps? Yeah, I think about it once on a while. I'm kind of on the fence of just, I just like keeping them, I didn't have like a normal childhood in that sense. And I would love for them to like experience more of that. But again, I don't know. I turned out okay for the most part. Like I'm so grateful for the journey that I've been on. So I'm definitely not going to get in the way of it if they're like super passionate about the idea of going into, you know, this business. But at the same time, I'm also like totally cool if they just wanted to like do their thing. Love. Yeah. Yeah. Is this show for adults? Like is it for like the nostalgia of people who watch Victoria's or is it for like the next generation of people who want like a family-friendly show? I would say primarily it's for the next generation. Okay. Which is awesome because I'm a mom. And I'm like, the fact that I'm creating a show that my kids and their friends are going to watch and it's going to be their thing. Insane. I'm so grateful. So cool. And we have quite possibly some of the best writers ever. So you can watch it. And it's very funny. Like it's elevated. There's a lot of Easter eggs. The humor, I, you know, I care about that. So like making sure that it kind of like works for everyone is there too. Love. I'll be tuning in with my knees and nothing. Well, super exciting. Well, it comes out like October 14th. Is that correct? 15th. Yeah. - 15th. - 15th, yeah. - On Netflix, so be sure to check it out. Mark your calendars. - You can put it on watch next. - Put it on your list on Netflix. Do you still find time in your very busy schedule not you're working and now you have your two jobs as a mom and back at working as an actor? You still find time to watch your trash reality TV. (laughs) - Yeah dude, that's pretty much all I watch like him. (laughs) I'm indeed over here. - Love it. - I hear you're a big fan of the Secret Lives franchise. - Yes, I'm caught up on that one. Yes, yes, Tuesday stuff. - Are we excited about the OC cast because they just launched their new trailer for the upcoming season? - I saw that. I am, I am. Actually, I just met Avery Woods, I did her podcast, and I didn't know that she was gonna be on this show. So when I saw the trailer, I was like, okay girl, I think it's gonna be great. I mean, it's an interesting cast. - Interesting cast. - Okay, I'm glad I got a loan. I was like, hold on. First of all, I know where some of these girls live. So I'm like, OC is like what, an umbrella? Like, a lot of them are like L.A., slash like moving to L.A., but they're in OC. - I think they just had to like call it that. - I think so too. - No, I mean, I know one of them like lives near me, so I can use the trailer. - Well, we have the trailer, let's play it, and maybe we can all react to it. - That looks good. - I just am like, how did they cross over? - Yeah. - You know, like I buy that the Mormon wives are originally in Utah, like they're kind of all in that same world, that feels like a bubble that I can like understand, but this one feels like Bobby really threw me. - Bobby threw me too. - Bobby threw me. I think, sorry, but I'm concerned that like her bit is like going too far. Like, she's definitely playing a bit. She's acknowledged the bit. - Do you think she's gonna be still doing the bit on this show? - Yes, there's all like nothing. Everything's my bad, babe. I don't, it's a, I think she's taking a little too far already. - Interesting. - Well, that'll be the biggest question with the show is like, how does it, I think to your point, Danielle, how do they gel together? You know what I'm saying? Like with secret lives of Mormon wives, like I guess the OG, it was all about mom talk. It like, is mom talk even gonna be a conversation? - I hope not. - I can't do another like will mom talk to me? - No. - Yeah, we've had enough. - Nevertheless, that was like what brought them together, right, and it made sense it was believable. - I think we needed that because it was a first season. I don't think we need, you know, now it's just like, okay, now this is the Mormon wives of OC. And it's like, we don't need a like, how were they all connected type thing? It's, I feel like I'm just having fun. - For better, for worse, like the, who they are, their personality, they're so authentically themselves. And like this whole character that Bobby seems to be playing is what's throwing me a little bit. - I wonder if the bit played out in the trailer because we saw that there. But I wonder if when we rolled the cameras, like maybe she'll, maybe she'll let us in a little bit. - Man, I hope so because just yeah, I hope so. - Yeah, I do too. - All the stuff on the internet, the football ads, the press runs, like she's just like, been almost like method acting this whole time. - Yeah, I wanna hear about like her, her real story because like, she would love to see the real Bobby. - Would love to. - Didn't it unravel a little? - Well yeah, that's the thing. She came out, she played this bit. She, we didn't know much about her. She, I think had one child and she was married in this relationship and then she became famous. She was like interviewing Drake and Bed. And the next thing you know, she was like, she got divorced and then there was a lot of speculation, a lot of rumors about like why her and her husband got divorced. I wanna hear her talk about that, you know? I wanna hear her talk about. - Yeah, I'm glad we're tracking the same points. - Yeah, it's like how her, she became famous and how, you know, who's the real Bobby? - That'd be a good show. - Who's the real Bobby? - Did her fame play a role in the downfall of her marriage? Is that over there, other reasons that like people just don't know about, like that would be really fascinating. I hope they dive into that. - I do think she's fascinating. She's talked about how she basically went and got a ton of like filler at one point. - Oh yeah. - And then the internet just like ripped into her and they're like, you're getting divorced. You got all this filler, which like, first of all, people can leave their judgments at home. But people were so mean to her about it. And she's like, no, you guys are right. Like, I'm struggling with my self-esteem. Like she basically came out and was like, yeah, I'm having a hard time with this and then dissolved a lot of her filler and stuff. So I actually do think she's a very interesting person and if she gives us the insight that we wanna see, like I think she really gave like Hollywood, you know, like took a toll on me and I thought I needed to do all of this to like fit in and be one with Hollywood. - I mean, she was called an industry plant at one point. Like-- - Oh, that's right, yeah. - Right, like she, it was like this overnight-- - She's not a nowhere. - Yeah, it was this overnight success-- - And had crazy interviews. - Yeah. - And then the rest of the cast, what, who amongst the rest of the cast has some of the biggest lore? - I think Aspen Ovard, for sure, Danielle, do you-- - She's the gen reflect. - She's the one with all the cute kids, the beautiful kids? - Yes, she's, well, she doesn't show her kids anymore. She had like, she was like very big on YouTube. She was married, she was married at a really young age and then she filed for divorce the same day she gave birth to her last child. And everyone was like, whoa, like what in the world happened here? And then she got on TikTok and started making these like, story times, but not telling anyone what happened, but basically being like, there was the secret that was behind my back for so long. Very, very cryptic. Nobody knows what's going on. And she's come out and said, like, yeah, I talk about it on the show for the first time. So to hear like what this secret was that her husband, she's like, everyone knew but me, it's like, and then, you know, she's clarified, it wasn't an affair, it wasn't like certain things. So it's like, well, what in the world could it be? - I'm curious that like, it hasn't leaked in some way. You know what the internet being the way that it is? I'm shocked that we're gonna have to hear about it on the show. - I know. - That just shows you like how close-lipped she's been about like whoever she's told has just not told us all because there's been tons of theories and tons of like guessing what it could be, but she's never confirmed. It's never like had proof of anything that has come out. So it'll be interesting to see what plays out on the show. - Danielle, what are your thoughts on the OG secret lives of Mormon lives? Do you feel like it's over? Do you feel like they should pick things back up? What are your thoughts on the original franchise? - I mean, on a human level, I think they all should maybe just take a break. You know, the consumer in me, the viewer is like, they probably want everyone to keep rolling the cameras. They probably want, you know, to tell their side of the story and that's the landscape they know how to do it best other than, you know, on TikTok. So I just, I don't have like a definitive answer for you because it's been so, it's gotten so weird and kind of like a little icky towards the end that I think, yeah, I just probably would rather them just take a break and let's focus on a new show. - Yeah, I don't feel like how there's really any way forward. I get, you know, Mikaela has left, has left, and Taylor Frankie Paul has now left. I guess if they bring in new girls kind of like Real Housewives style, that would really be the only way that it would move forward. But I just, yeah, I feel like this OC one is going to be so good and so big that it's kind of going to take the place. - I'm really curious how Jen Affleck integrates with the rest of this group. - That one, yes. I love how in her package, it's like, and I was born in North California. (laughing) I was like, wait, what are you just trying to rebrand you? Which I get it, like that's your opportunity to like, state, I am a California girl, right? - But I am wondering how that all came to be. I'm guessing this decision was made before all the fallout with the original show. But I got to imagine many of the women from the original cast are probably fairly envious of Jen now because there's a lot of questions with the original franchise and now Jen's kind of like, can look in a rear-of-room mirror and be like, I'm done with that. I got this new show that everyone's excited about. But it does sound like there's some really big personalities in this cast and I'm curious how Jen will fit in with it. - I do feel like Jen deserves it. Like, I don't feel like she ever fit in with the Salt Lake City group. I felt like she never really had like her girls and her, you know, it's like Michaela and Macy were always like the best of friends. There was a time when like Jesse and Demi were the best of friends. It's, and I just don't ever feel like Jen had her girl. And so I do feel like she finally deserves like her. And I think they'll probably think she is like the coolest because she's done this before. This isn't her first radio. - Maybe. - Yeah, you know. - You think we're gonna get Zach? - Yeah. - That's why you didn't continue that? - For sure. Yeah, I'll be curious how that plays out. - Yeah. - 'Cause she's pregnant now and TBD on the marriage, I guess. - Certainly a lot of Jews with this show. So when does it come out? - September. - September. - Oh, sorry, November 14th. - November 14th, yeah, I think it was, is that right? - I think it was November 14th. - It says November 12th on who we were. - Oh, we were on November 12th. - November 12th. - November 12th. Well, dancing with the stars was last night and another fantastic episode, some great performances. I was pretty shocked to see Taylor Hanson be the one that goes home. I thought, you know, after the first two weeks he was gonna go far. - I did too. Also the fan base. I'm like, where are his people? Like, Hanson lovers are crazy. - Yeah, really not about dancing with the stars? - I guess not. - I was really surprised. - I wasn't surprised either. - I was a Hanson girly, and I thought his performance was made. - Did you vote? - I did vote, but I didn't vote for him. - Oh, who'd you vote for? - We got a message on my school's thread that we got a vote for Tyler, 'cause Sharna's one of the moms at our school. And so I was like, all right, you got it. That was an easy one. I was a Giata fan because I just did a movie that Giata produced, and so I was like rooting for her, and then I switched gears. So now there's always someone to root for. - Did you guys see the video from Brian Austin Green, the one that he posted that people are talking about? - No. - Yeah, I saw this. - So he posted this video, and basically he was just like, "Yo, I'm having a bad day. I'm here at the movies alone, I'm alone, I'm alone, I'm alone, I'm alone, I'm alone." In that same video, did he say he was like-- - I think that video since been deleted. - He did not delete it, but it's up. But he did not say that quote that people were talking about in the video. He just said he was the only at the movies. - In the most dramatic fashion possible. - Yeah. - Yeah, so I mean, you can debate whether he, you know, maybe it was a little bit of an overshare, but the way people are, and then similarly, we have Haley Steinfeld and Josh Allen, big time quarterback in the NFL, also recently had their first child. He's in the midst of the NFL season. It just started like three weeks ago. If you took, you know, they've been playing, you know, the NFL is in the early stages of its season. And obviously there's a lot of dedication that goes into both Dancing with the Stars and being an NFL player. Haley posted this video different, but similar basically talking about like the challenges that Josh is off playing football, and she's like, there's a lot on her plate. And the way the internet is responded to very different responses. But both kind of, I guess, siding with the ladies, because Brian now is being like, there was an article written that he's like an narcissist, like ruining Sharna's experience. And then now Josh Allen's also being called the deadbeat dad. - Sees can't win, they cannot win. - Not really. - I just, like, maybe it was a bit of an overshare for Brian, but like, I kind of almost took it as like, how much, you know, being with his wife Sharna, like, means to him and how much she probably does on a day-to-day basis. And now that Sharna is off doing Dancing with the Stars, it's probably hitting him pretty hard. And as opposed to like, I didn't take it as if like him trying to criticize Sharna being on Dancing with the Stars, but just like, hey, I'm having a bad day missing my wife, but the internet did not-- - Yeah, he's not like, y'all don't vote, don't text Tyler, you know, I need my wife back at home. Everyone vote for Guillermo. And then like, yeah, now Josh Allen's being called the deadbeat dad because like his wife was just like, it's just a little hard to be alone. It was just kind of fascinating the way the internet responded to both of those. - The internet always wants authenticity and people to be real and to show like what it's really like. And then when people actually do, they take it and they run with it in a way that, at least for me, makes me feel like, well, I'm never sharing with you guys again. Because unless someone's exclusively coming out and saying, you know, he's a nut, like if it's coming from Sharna or something like that, it's like, okay, she's calling him a narcissist. We'll listen to her because she's experiencing it firsthand. But when people draw conclusions like that that are truly, I don't wanna say dangerous, but I'm like, that's a really disgusting thing to label somebody. When yeah, maybe it was a little bit of an overshare. Maybe that's, it's kind of giving like someone on Facebook who's like sharing too much of their personal life or whatever, but because there's a spotlight on these people, it's like being blown out of proportion and I'm like, the internet just, I'm like, if you want people to be authentic and real, then don't draw those conclusions. - It's like, yeah, it's just like, again, maybe he didn't like stick the landing when it comes to his video, but he was being kind of open and vulnerable about just like what this experience is. I was there for night one, Brian brought his, I don't know if it's the whole family, but he was there with the kids supporting Sharna, like they seemed very much in love, you know, and a very happy couple. It's just, he did apologize for being a distraction though. - Yeah, but probably mostly just because of how people reacted to the video, yeah. That became the distraction, not so much, you know, what like his feelings on the situation. I don't know, it's, it's a, but to your point Susie, it's just like, well, fuck, man, I'm never gonna be honest again. But I also think like in, in Haley's sense, like, she doesn't have anything to apologize for, because again, it's just like this is the situation, this is the reality of being the wife of the best quarterback in the NFL. Like, I'm not, I feel like there should be no apology on honestly either front. - Yeah, and I think she's one of the most interesting, like women in general, I'm like, she's so, like she's, she brings so much to the table when it comes to like her career and just being on social media and then marrying her husband, I'm like, there's so much interest there, and I'm like, you guys are literally, she's never gonna share with you all again. She's never gonna open up again. - And here we had this like super, like superstar, hyper talented actress, musician, performer, and she's just being so real, like, and, you know, they have all the means in the world, but, you know, she clearly is an active parent, she's involved, and like it's such a real thing to talk about. Listen, like we, like we feel the effects when one of us has something else going on, you know, when you are a team raising a family together and the other person has something else going on, it does make it harder, and it does make you appreciate how important it is to be a team. And I kind of feel like both of those videos in different ways, like is ultimately what they were trying to express. - Yeah, Danielle, how do you and your husband kind of attack that now that you're back doing Hollywood arts? - We do the best we can, I relate to this a lot. My first experience away was really hard, and I remember it falling around Easter, and it was like the first time like I had to be away from my family, I couldn't fly back. I was really upset about it. And now it's interesting because my husband, I don't think ever realize that he would just have to eventually sign up to just be a full hands-on dad while I'm gone for weeks and weeks and weeks at a time, which is crazy. The crazy thing is is I think he knows how to support me, and it could still be hard, and those both can play at the same time. And vice versa, like I think about this often, like he travels once in a while for work, and I definitely understand how that feels. It's like, whoa, I don't know how people do this. Like single parents are actual superheroes, but it's just the kind of the way that it works when you're in a relationship and you have a family, like you just do whatever is best for the family unit. And if it means that I have to go to work for a period of time, and he has to step up, that's the world we're living in, and we just know that there's really no other out. We don't have, you know, sure could we have help, yes, but like we just never have in that way. So like our kids know us, and we feel lucky that we get to show up for them when we, you know, one of us needs to be away for some reason. We just do the best we can. And fortunately, yeah, we've been able to juggle it, and I just feel really grateful that I have someone like him because I don't think it would be as easy for me to be excitable and get to go to work and show up 100% myself. If I knew I didn't have like a solid rock, like holding it down. - That's awesome. - That's so true. - Well, speaking of Sharna, she is back to her OG Sharna Red hairstyle. She had that when you were on, right? - Yeah, that was like her. - I wonder why she like waited this long to go back. Maybe just like give it, maybe-- - You know what's gonna idea she had and, you know, make a moment, make it a moment. - We had a cool convo with them. - Yeah. - She was a guy that had some cool questions. - I feel like when talking to them, you can just tell how much they admire each other and Tyler was just so supportive. - He also said Nick LeBron would be the best player to go from NBA to the NFL. - That's probably true. - He didn't say he's the best basketball player of all time. - No, I did not. - Okay. - Okay, we've got the clip ready if you guys are ready. - If you could tell one thing to the world about your partner, what would it be? Something maybe they don't know or something that you've found endearing. That the OG Sharna is back and I'm so proud of her finding her old self again. And she is just lighting up this whole competition. Just like her swagger. I just feel like we're getting like that. She could be an incredible mother and the OG Sharna Red and that fire and all that. I'm just so honored and proud of her that she is able to just excel at both. For this heart, it's hard. Every minute that you are not at home, you're away from your little one. And so I take every minute I get with her. And I'm very before it, but she balances everything. And she does everything so well. And I'm just OG Sharna's back. And I'm just so proud that she can do both so well. - Doing both, it's so impressive. - Thank you. - And what would you say about Tyler? - I don't think people, well I didn't know Tyler on the Bachelor Red, but something that surprised me was the emotional depth and maturity that he has. This man has lived a life and experiences and he's so much more grown beyond his use. He gives me advice at the same time. He's like the little brother I didn't know I could have, but he gives me advice and helps me through things too. And I just, I love that about him. I think people see the way he looks and don't expect that to be that depth to him, but he truly has it in spades. - Tyler more than a Mimbo. - Yes he is. (laughing) - I thought that judges scores for Tyler and Sharna bullshit. A five. A little. So much fun too. And then when they gave him those like flat ass scores, I was like, oh, that was brutal first of all the Jive is one of the hardest dances especially for the male celebrities because like you have to have light feet, you know, yeah, like spunky. Yeah, Tyler's a big guy. It's just like really hard to do. And I thought he did a great job. I thought it was one of his like best dance like of the three dances. It seemed I thought I thought it was his best performance given the difficulty of the jive. I think you could tell how hard he was like working at it and like how much he really cared and wanted to do good. Yeah, but I yeah, but it also looked like he was having a lot of fun with the dance. Yeah. And maybe that's why I was so distracted by like whatever technicalities he couldn't like hit and that was the judges scored him that way, but like, you know, it looked fun. I mean, the judges really do great on a curve. You could tell that China and Tyler thought they were going home. That's why I think I got that text. Yeah. It's like alert your friends family. I thought it was interesting when they were doing the elimination last night. Julie Ann was like, this is not necessarily the bottom three. And she pointed that out. And I don't feel like she said that the past two weeks. She said that with Tyler. They did say that with Tyler. It's down at the bottom three. But it's as hard to like, I think everyone just thinks that's the bottom three. And even when you are a competitor, and you are like one of, you know, listed as not necessarily the vinyl, but not necessarily listed at the bottom three, but like you are one of the final three before the elimination. It really makes you nervous. But like, I think it's smart for them to do that because if they didn't do that, then it would be the same. It would be, you know, Harry Ezra and it would be the same people that they called being safe every time. No, I'm glad they do it that way. I also think it does help votes in terms of motivating people to like, you know, if they're worried about their, their team and their couple potentially going home, I think it does amp it up. But we get like, the fire under their ass. It does make you really, really nervous. Wait, Danielle, who is your favorite dance of the night? Um, gosh, good question. I feel like right off the jump, like I turned the show off and I looked at my phone. And it was like a lot of Jenna Dewan's dance was popping up for me. And they were really pushing it. I, I think it was incredible. And I think like, I really enjoyed watching hers. I really enjoyed Ezra's. I think what I struggle with sometimes is when I see like, these people that have some sense of dance background or even ice skating. My goodness, that dance was so incredible. It was so beautiful. But like, that's what she does. Yeah. So it's like, it's so impressive when you see someone like Tyler show up over and over again and, you know, give it everything he can because he doesn't have like the substantial dance background or, you know, it's just a totally new thing. So I think there's a lot of good dances. I'm always impressed when I see someone who doesn't have the dance background show up. Well, speaking of Ezra's, what, what, what, what, what wows me about Ezra is that, you know, like looking at Tyler and say Connor, right? They're both doing great. They're both improving. But there's like, there's moments of clunkiness, right? Like I, when I was on it, you definitely saw that clunkiness when I danced with Ezra. You know, he obviously has this disability, you know, but like, there is a fluidness about his dance and a crispness that like is, it looks like he has a dancing background and he doesn't and it makes it's like, and it looks so crisp and so great. Like I, there's something about it that is so different than the rest of the performances. We also got a chance to talk to Ezra and we talked to him about his disability and what it means to him to be putting gone for the community, what it means to him to kind of just be championing the disability and not looking at it as something that can hold you back. And here's the clip that we're talking about. Between you, Beatrice from Love Island, she's a gold medalist in the Apparplegic Olympics. And I don't know if you're familiar with Emmanuel Hansel, the Vision One basketball player with one arm playing for the Santa Cruz Warriors, the G.L.E. team. Legend. Any words to that community? No, it's, it's a real privilege to get to see so many other people with disabilities, pursuing things that matter to them, seeing them also help change perceptions. I got a lot a lot of love for Beatrice. That's a dear friend of mine. I've known her for so long. I was watching the season supporting her and to get love from her back is amazing. And then Emmanuel, he's a legend. I've watched that guy's videos on Instagram for years. He's a basketball player. He's missing his entire arm. He is a hooper. He is a beast. And it's, I mean, I got a lot of love and respect for both of them. So it's, it's, it's awesome to see what they're doing. We watched the show with the kids and they had questions. And so we, we read up on him and we were just blown away by his story. And I feel so lucky to be able to watch them and also share the story with my kids and give more perspective. The way he shows up is so inspiration and so cool. And again, like, with Mora, right? Like she just looks like she knows how to dance. And I would put Ezra in that same category of like, I honestly have such high expectations now of him because of the way he's as low. It's this different watching like Tyler Lovell. He's doing great. He's in performing. But like Ezra, there's a, there's something about the Christmas that is so cool to see. He gave a lot of credit to his partner for her, her ability to like adjust choreography to accommodate for the things he can and can't do. And it was fascinating to hear that. And how like when you watch their performance, you would never think they had to like tweak certain things because he's just crushing. Yeah. And speaking of Mora, we actually have a clip of her as well. We were chatting with her because we, I mean, the show is so aspirational. You watch it and you're just like, oh, like, it's amazing to see people accomplishing things and going through like trials and tribulations, just like that. And so we wanted to ask her like for all the women out there who are afraid to try something. What's her advice? You've spoken about how you get nervous before going on stage. What advice would you give women who are afraid to try something new? But they want to do it anyways. What would you tell them? I would say just do it because like when you're scared of something and then you do it, like that is the most incredible feeling in the world. And like every week I'm scared. And I do it. And then I have this amazing feeling afterwards. And I'm like so proud of myself. And the more you do it, the less terrifying it becomes, right? Like last week before Chacha was a scary moment for you, I'm using this content. And today, yeah, you were nervous, you were scared, but I could feel like you were sitting in. Yeah, I settled in and I actually really got to enjoy the dance like I was in the moment. I wasn't like, 10th stop and freaking out. It was so good. I love that advice. I know. I'm such a believer of reps. Like, yeah. The older I've gotten, the more I've realized, wow, there's certain things in my life that I can like show up to and I don't have nerves. And working with the younger cast and Hollywood arts, like there was different things that I would do that I noticed. Like, this is just purely because I'm old. Because I've got more reps under my belt. Like, I promise you guys, like you just got to have more reps. And then things just become easier. And like anytime you do something you're nervous about or scared about and you do it again, you just proved yourself more and more than it's so possible. And just gets easier and easier. When I was on special forces, Boate Miller, Olympic gold medalist was on my season. And he said something that really stuck with me that when when more I talked, it reminded me of this. But he was like, there's a difference between being scared and knowing that you're in danger. And and and you know, because obviously, special forces were doing all these scary things. But like, obviously, we were all very safe. There was all like the safety teams and we had the harnesses and things like that. And then certainly an element of risk. But like, when he talked about that, it was very helpful because like, just kind of visualizing like, I'm safe. This is scary. But I'm safe. And nothing actually bad is going to happen. So like that kind of gives you a permission to say, fuck it. Kind of what Mara said. And just like go and do it. And just thinking about that was so helpful to me when Boate said that. And it reminded me what Mara said. Just because like, I think so often when we're nervous and we're scared, there's this feeling of danger. Like even that danger could be like, Oh, I might feel embarrassed. There's a live audience and things like that. But actually recognizing, like, I'm not actually in danger. What's the worst that could happen? You know, I might try something. The audience isn't going to boom me. They're going to support me. And like, that kind of gives you permission to say, fuck it and go for it is something that was really helpful when Boate brought that up when I was on special forces. And it was kind of cool to see Mara kind of echo the same thing. Yeah. When we left, I echo the same thing too. I was like, I was nervous to even do what we just did. And then immediately after, it's like, I'm so fucking glad we did. I'm so glad like I showed up for this. Like, it's so rewarding. You know, Mara and Mark were our first people. And we were kind of still getting set up. Like, it happened so quick. And my hand was literally like shaking with the microphone because I was nervous. And I'm like, Oh my gosh, they're sending us like the two of the biggest stars that are known to dance with the stars. And they send them over. And my hand was literally shaking. So as she's saying that I'm like, you got this, you got this. You're listening to her. Well, you guys dress shit. Before we let you go, Danielle, what's your prediction for who do you think they're the finalists are going to be? Um, okay. Let me think about this. Um, I would say absolutely Ezra. Um, probably Mara because she's just been a fan favorite from the beginning. And I feel like she's not getting too many notes. Like just it looks effortless. When Carrie Ann said, if all of you are looking at form, this is how you do it and looked at like the rest of the stars, I was like, Oh, I know. Okay. And her frame, like, I mean, just hearing frame so many times it was like a drinking game was like everyone's talking about frame here. It was beautiful like I even not knowing anything about dance you just see that she's got something so I think her and I just think I do enjoy watching Jenna. I think that like even though she does have a dance background I like that they're being a little more critical with the way that she's approaching this process and how ballroom is new so I think we'll see an arc there which I think people will like I actually I agree with that three I think it's a that's a strong that's a strong prediction nothing Harry Shum is too good to win genuinely. No I mean he's again when he he opened up his dance and he did some kind of body roll I was like that's incredible like I mean it's really it's so it is so cool I mean he could easily be a finalist I don't know there's something about Jenna and Val dancing that is just it's so hot it's it's fun to watch that dance specifically was hot it was so good on theme like I was like this is selling the theme and then it just yeah I don't know honestly Val helped me with my nerves I told Susie like I showed up and like I was like backstage or whatever like not really sure where to be and he came up to me and was like I used to watch a year ago how state and I was like holy shit like well maybe I do belong somewhere around here that's cool block it for a second that's great that's really cool that's great yeah he's a great guy and he's just such an exceptional dancer he's probably one of my favorite pros to watch now that now that Max is not on anymore the at family is incredible Dingella it's always great to catch up with you please don't take seven years to come back well the show is Hollywood arts it's out October 15th on Netflix be sure to check it out it's always great to catch up with you thanks for chatting with us come back soon oh thanks for having me appreciate it guys next time we'll be with you in person promise yes we'd love that K a welcome the scophones AJ and Nina how are you guys doing good we're doing good yeah it's been a crazy week but we're doing good I imagine I am so fascinated with this show as a as a new dad as a you know an athlete when I was a kid and and very highly competitive I am very fascinated with this this world that is it seems like like a culture of like highly can highly competitive parents so I guess how did you guys get started in this whole thing and I am just curious like what was your kind of level of self awareness of how people and other parents kind of perceive this type of culture when it comes to youth sports oh God what was our so this is the thing I feel like people aren't like I see all these comments on the internet and they're like we don't do that on the sideline though that's not on our team and you're lying you're completely lying like we the drama is on every sideline in every sport across America it's really changed I agree when I was younger I played sports competitively and you attended play whatever season it that was and now all these competitive sports are year round and it's turned into a way of life it's not just parents dropping off kids at practice picking them up when it's done and going to games when they can now it's just literally a huge commitment in a way of life and it's not just baseball well yeah and with that you have like passion right like you're you're investing so much into your time your money your child and then your passion about something and then it starts to get a little emotional and here we are I'm curious AJ because you mentioned obviously your childhood like mine was different do you feel like the way you sports has changed to be so highly competitive do you feel like this that's an ultimately a positive thing for you sports or is it just like it is what it is so we just kind of had to buy in you know I have mixed emotions about it I think that for kids that love one sport only and they get to play it full time that's great for them but it really does make you commit to a sport at a really young age so you're not really able to to try them out for as long as we were when we were younger so I'd say that's the the take from it but the give to it is that these kids are so good at a young age as well good player so this show is produced by Kim Kardashian I think it's a genius just thought of a show I mean I don't I'm surprised it hasn't happened before how were y'all approached for the show so we weren't supposed to be on the show we were not supposed to be on the show so originally Kim K came up with the idea her team started to do some research across America and they landed on a family the Taylor family who's in the show because jet was really competitive in baseball Joey coach damn they were in the Little League World series and there were some ESPN videos so Kim's team reached out to the Taylor family and then from there they maybe suggested other families and then casting obviously started interviewing we were just supposed to be like supporting cast and then of course and then you call someone a bitch a little bit of drama with me bring her in the hottest mom and everyone is precise yeah so that's how that's how that all went down I think the show needed someone to say what everybody was thinking because if she's thinking that she's saying it better or worse 100% I mean AJ I feel like you kind of have a little bit that in you as well I mean there was like when all of y'all met up for the barbecue and they're kind of coming at you Nina AJ you're like listen if y'all are just jealous that y'all don't have the hottest wife just say that like I yeah I have like a longer fuse and I think that Nina loves to speak for herself however I I know like the signs when I need to maybe step in when it gets to a certain level totally you're good at that so did you get a chance to meet Kim Kardashian or not yet we have not met Kim that is I mean she's I mean look at her she's like in another country every other day so we hear from our team I think they're all really happy with the show it's really exciting so yeah I'm curious about that that sort of like fire pit scene as a viewer watching it yeah it did feel like a lot of the other dads were making comments about like how hot you were or like oh well you teach my wife how to dress like that and I think that there is when it comes to like sports cultures and times it's like oh boys will be boys but as a viewer I was like this is like to me quite an appropriate if I were their wife I would say something I would be like maybe let's not talk about how she's dressing and maybe let's not compare her to me like I would not like those comments if I were them because I just feel like it's disrespectful towards you and to them did you feel that way when it was happening um there was so much happening in that scene and and none of it was scripted it was all true like raw emotion and I did feel like I was getting like daggers thrown at every angle across that fire pit yeah so I don't think in the moment I realized exactly what was being said because I was just so caught off guard by all of it I think now watching it back yeah I'm a little disappointed because I can never in a million years imagine my husband saying something like that and if he did there would be some really big conversations um but a lot of people are feeling that same way I'm getting a lot of comments about it and messages about it and I don't know I guess it's just sad as a society it's 2026 and this is where we're at like let a girl feel confident let her wear what she wants to wear like teacher boys to be respectful teacher husbands to be respectful and not have this like I know I know in the in the show I said slut shaming because I feel like it kind of was a little bit that's kind of how I felt watching it too it's like they kept kind of coming at you for like oh you're teaching these young horny boys and like you're wearing work out clothes and it's like well why don't you teach your sons how exactly be around women and treat women like maybe exactly let's do that instead of telling me what I should wear yeah and that only fans comment was something that really like struck a nerve with me that was like that was just disrespectful and everyone kept telling me you should be like if you should take it as a compliment I'm like this is not it's not a compliment in any way shape or form especially to my son that was something he did not like so totally to me now but my son the most so that's someone's mom you talking about in the little bitch comments dimmed from the only fans comment right yeah again like editing at its finest there's so much more to that like story but yeah it was it was originally started from the only fans comment and Rocco was hearing it and hearing it and hearing it and you know he just had enough and tried to stand up for me and yeah that's kind of how that went down listen I respect him I'll say when I first like when they introduced you saying the little bitch I was like oh like I would obviously hate if someone said that to my kid and then when you explained it and you were like he was bullying my son like then it reminded me of how much of like a mother bear I am and I'll be at the park and if some kid is mean to my daughter I'm stepping and I'm like, you're mean, where's your mom? - Yeah, it's like, I know. And I think that like it doesn't it doesn't stop because we have a 16 year old daughter too And even she comes down from school and there's like drama and I'm like getting in the car We're going over there. I got like stop my stuff because I can't like but the mama bear will not quit Also the families and the coaches are so involved beyond the level of professionalism that is probably like expected when it comes to This industry like it like everyone was saying it Oh, it's it's more than just like a team. It's and it's different than a family So yeah, you made the little bitch comment But like there's a lot of comments being made that are not entirely professional and Not only just to the adults but to the kids. Yeah, if I if I got called a little bitch at practice. That was a good day Guys I was I kind of used to be like Rocco in a sense like basketball was my life So watching this show. It's fascinating, but it's also like difficult for me It's like honestly a little triggering, but like I wonder like do y'all wrestle with like You know pushing your your kid like pushing Rocco to be great versus Just being parents like I how do you guys navigate that I think we just take it one year at a time You you have parents that'll be talking when kids are 14 years old about College or professional level and there's already so much pressure these boys put on themselves That they don't need anything added we take it one year at a time Hopefully at a certain point Rocco will be starting on a varsity team And then we can start looking at if he's good enough for college and then if he's excelling at that level We could just keep it going and hopefully just support his dream For as long as possible And then ultimately just make sure that it's something that he wants and we're not trying to vicariously live Yeah, through our son because it's something we want him to want I think that's the most important part and I will say like we are we commute probably over communicate with our kids As a family we kind of let them into like all types of information. So With Rocco, it's just constant check-ins like the minute he comes to us and he's like hey mom dad I'm burnt out like we're cool. We're done. We're walking away from it Yeah, I got chills hearing that that's good to hear because that that was kind of piggybacking off of Jimmy's question I imagine Like there is a lot of purge you know the assumption is there's a lot of parents projecting their dreams onto their kids It's like I made it close and now my kid has to make it a step further You guys seem like you have a pretty healthy balance of you know again just letting your kid kind of dictate You know supporting their dreams Are there a lot of other parents where you see like A 14 year old like Thinking that they're the only end goal is to be a pro you know or like how much How much you know because like I'm a big believer like raising my daughters I want them to believe that anything's possible I want them to be able to chase their dreams if they're willing to work at it and and know what it takes But they do have to realize that like it is a chain like you know less than one percent of these people make it And I feel like in in these hyper competitive teams it almost feels like there's an expectation or like Hey, I'm gonna go pro someday what happens if I don't make it and all of some of the kids 18 and he realizes Yeah, you're good, but like you're not you're not good enough Which is gonna be totally okay Overall, but do you feel like a lot of parents aren't doing that in these types of leagues And how do you guys deal with that when it comes to kids talking to each other about their Their dreams and their plans and making sure that they have a realistic outlook on on what this all is Yeah, I think that definitely especially at a school like LPA The pressure is there a lot more than you would see like a normal in a normal club So as parents as AJ and I like it is sad to us to see some of these kids We do feel like a lot of you know the parents are living by carelessly through their children Um, and like you said Nick. I mean the chances are so low. I mean we're just kind of We struggle with it because We come from like at an addiction like we come from families of like you know not to get too deep, but like You know, we we have another layer to it that we always think about in the back of our head Now if we put too much pressure on Rocco is Rocco gonna feel like he failed us or he failed himself Yeah, that's always something that like plays in the back of our head So we as parents just try to encourage it and let them have fun and like communicate with it Because but we want him to get an education. We want him to go to college. That's really important to us But yeah, I mean there's a lot of families inside and outside of LPA where it's like Holy cow. Yeah, it's good. It's eye-opening. It's it's intense. It's eye-opening Honestly, it's it to me. It's sad sometimes. I'm like oh should we call CPS? I don't know like It's a little bit sad. It is it it turns into a job at way too young of an age for some of these kids And if you play for long enough, it's gonna turn to that eventually So let's just try to keep it as fun for as long as possible. Yeah And do you feel like you guys are like with these schools these leagues being so competitive like what how What is the appetite to hear parents like you saying hey? This is supposed to be fun. I feel like that might not be well-received with some of the coaches or other parents who are taking it so Serious definitely there's definitely different approaches and You see parents that want kids at my son's age play through injuries and and like stuff like that that or don't tell the coach or hurt Yeah, I could never imagine having that outlook However, like to each their own and you can't save the world and you gotta just like let everybody figure it out On their own and if there's a kids that I see their friends with Rocco I could have any talks with and and give them any moral support or confidence boost. I'm always doing that Yeah, but I will say the coaches at LPA all have some sort of background right they all made it For one reason or another and they're not in the big leagues anymore a lot of them injuries a lot of them just weren't good enough I think now that they're out of it they you know if if Rocco misses a day They're like, yeah, cool. No worries. Not a big deal like they're not putting So it's the parents that put the pressure more so than the coaches. I think like an LPA The thing about LPA that I love and that I kind of want to like schools like LPA and like you know programs that Operate like professional clubs that I kind of want to defend that I feel like you guys might hopefully agree with like Yes, you want to keep it fun But the thing about LPA in schools like LPA is they teach you the process and you fall in love with the process like dedicating yourself To this craft and that becomes the fun and you don't invest in the wins and losses because as long as you fall in love and dedicate to the process That LPA teaches you when you commit the results take care of themselves. That's beautiful Yeah, that's a good point what LPA is so great about and you take these you might not be learning like Pre-calc at the same rate as other kids maybe but like you're learning life lessons way faster Well, and my friend and I were just talking about this. Yeah, straight like It's not only the baseball It's teaching you like you said life lessons like they have to be on time if they're not on time They're running sprints. They have schoolwork I mean they have expectations that they have to follow in order to get to like play baseball or train And it sets them up for like you're gonna have to show up to a job on time You're gonna have people that you know expect you to kind of complete a task. Yeah, so it's more It's just it's beyond baseball too for us than LPA. Yeah, and she said I would that's great answer and then it also Does prepare those kids that are good enough players for the next level It prepares them for that type of work you have to put in on a daily basis that you'll be doing at the next level How much shit are you guys getting for the Porsche Oh my god Yeah I cringed a little bit when she said that there's there's a reason why we did that and it's because She's a really good student. She on her old AP she wants to be a doctor love and She's she's you know, we we we will always reward like Goals like life goals. She's killing it. She's doing good and let me tell you Nick your kids are young But when you go to buy that first car It's not much difference between the used Honda or the used Porsche okay my difference you mean price Yes Well, it's funny when I have to bring something to my daughter at school It's not the only Porsche on the parking lot. Let me just say that these days. It's it's like keeping up with the Joneses out here Yeah, is that I mean as as parents is that a lot of pressure, you know like obviously like we feel lucky for the life That we'd be able to built for ourselves, but like I you know me and Ali both grew up Poor but like yeah, like we my parents got by certainly different childhoods and like you know my parents struggling financially is really Helped me have the work ethic and the perspective that I have I'm just you know give us some advice because our all our daughters are very young How do you do that because like yeah, I get that you want to like keep up with the Joneses and you know comparison is such a challenge when it comes to young kids, but like how do you deal with those choices of trying to like Teach your kids lessons, but you know not making them feel left out amongst You know, maybe like a very affluent group of parents. I think that's actually a really hard question to answer And I don't know that we really genuinely have figured that one out yet. I mean It is hard to keep up, A.J. and I come from very different backgrounds. I come from probably more so your background, he comes more from like enough fluent background. But we also have been on our own for 20 years. We've kind of hustled and done our own thing together. And so I think what we instill in our children, especially with like LPA and staff and with school, is you got to hustle, you got to figure it out. Like you could never stop the grind if you want the nice things in life. And that's just, would you say? I mean, but it is hard. It is hard, especially in Scottsdale and a Scottsdale world, to kind of not get sucked into the fake. Would you say? I mean, being honest. And I probably have been guilty of a time or two, obviously, about my daughter at Porsche. But I think that it's kind of, there has to be some sort of balance. And I think just trying to stay true to who we are and genuine to who we are. Again, like communicating with the kids. Would you say? I think, yeah. And it is a fine line. I don't know that we have it figured out. Like Nina said, sometimes we feel like there's spoiled. What are we doing? We create a monster and the next day you're spoiling them. So I don't know. But I do feel like we have two amazing children with really good hearts. Yeah. So have we been perfect and got everything right, no way. But I'm really happy with the result. And we just try to keep really close to our kids to make sure they're grounded. And they know what it takes to be successful and whatever they choose to do in life. And be respectful. I think that's our biggest thing in the house is like being respectful. Can I ask, what is the yearly financial commitment for having your kid in LPA? You know, it's funny. Yesterday, I think I was telling you, I don't even want to know what we spent on the kids. I don't even want to know. So sometimes you just live one day at a time and just survive. Ask AJ where he banks. He probably couldn't tell you that either. It's expensive. You know, I want to say right now we've joined a while back. And I think that the prices are going up. I want to say it's around 30,000 right now. I'm not sure exactly what the numbers are. But with that being said, and I would encourage everybody to if it like we're not over the top by spending that because club baseball, club football, club fees are expensive. Yeah. And if you want to get competitive, you then have to find an agility coach or you have to find a pitching coach and then you have to find a nutritionist and then you have to find a hitting coach. And when you factor in all of the things that you're spending and you combine it into one, I mean, maybe we're spending a little bit more, but it's not much more. And that's how we were able to like justify it. I grew up in the world of basketball where like it's, it is a bit of pay for play. Like you got to be able to have a pay for a rebounder and a trainer and stuff like that. But at the end of the day, like, like Hooper's got a hoop. You just got to go out and play basketball. In baseball, you need, you need pictures and out. Like can you just, I mean, you could throw the ball around, but like you probably do have to pay for every little type of coach in baseball. You can't just roll a ball out and hoop. Oh, no, you're paying for ever. And then you're paying for the equipment, right? Because you need a pitching glove and you need an outfield glove and you need an infield glove and you need a bat and you need a wood bat. And I mean, it's just like the list goes on and on and on. LPA provides all of that and one when I was in baseball and I played what I thought what I thought was a competitive league. My parents couldn't afford batting gloves and I had to use another kid's bat. I still have the team and batting average in home runs. So that part used to do that too. It's like, do you want the 34 32? The 34 30 because we have one of each. And the boys would just share him and I lived in that same kind of world. We were lucky enough a couple of years ago to take Rocco to the Dominican Republic and he got to really see like baseball on that level. Yeah. And I think that was eye opening for us because he was playing with kids. I think Rocco like really like cherishes that too because he was playing with kids that had no shoes and we're rolling out. Yeah. You know, and so I mean, yes, you could buy all the most fancy equipment in the world, but at the end of the day, talent's going to override all of it, you know. What is like the, are you guys like every weekend? Like are all your weekends year round accounted for in terms of like, you're playing so many games and I'm assuming you're on the road constantly. Like I have a friend his boys are in hockey. They're like two years apart. They're really good. It's a competitive league. Him and his wife literally like every weekend. They're in a different she takes one boy, he takes another and like, it's like they never see each other on the weekends. Each other, yeah, there was even there was I was saying this. There was an affair with the one of the couples, right? Because like you had mom go, you know, a different dad. And it's like you're spending all this time with these families. And it must be I don't know, kind of weird. Because you know, it gets really intimate at times, right? Like do you we've heard of that? I've heard of that many of times. Okay. I think that for us, we only have Rocco. Like we don't have another boy. So we're fortunate that we get to just kind of devote our time to him, both of us. And yeah, I mean, it's it's a lot. It's it's every weekend. It's every other weekend. It's guest playing. It's traveling. It's going out of state. But again, he's happy and we're just supporting something he loves. So how do you like, how do you not want to be there on the sidelines? Yeah, and it's hard to keep up with all of it sometimes. And then you run across a dad that's just getting out of it or maybe a few years out of it. And he tells me just enjoy this moment. You know, this is the best time of your life. So you got to try to enjoy it as it comes because it'll last a certain amount of time. And then you'll have your weekends back to yourself. And you'll miss that craziness probably. No, that's it. That's a good point. Before we let you go, what's the biggest misconception about this lifestyle that you guys have chosen for your family versus some of the criticisms that you guys hear about this kind of very intense culture? Good for it. I miss conception. I mean, I think we're just getting a lot of hate because we're in spot-stale. I think the misconception is I've heard people say that like, oh, where are the little siblings running around? Why aren't their hairs just in a ponytail? We have a bog bag and like those are there that the hairs in ponytails and the little siblings for those that have them are there. Yeah, I think I think the misconception maybe for us personally is that because we send our son to LPA that we're not real baseball parents, right? We're just like paying this like lifestyle, but we are. I mean, we're about five in the morning for those games. We haven't showered in two days. All of these kids that are on the show are the feral second siblings. So we just don't have younger kids. You're also hands-on too though, right? Like you're up with Pilates. Yeah, I mean, I'm in LPA a lot with the boys. And you know, I think that would be the misconception is that we do work as hard as all the other baseball moms out there, baseball dads, and we're just on TV for everyone to see it, really. Yeah, how do you guys prepare your kids for being on TV? Again, lots of communication. I will say Paramount was great. They had us talk to some doctors or constantly talking to doctors throughout filming. So even before the camera started rolling, we had had lots of meetings with this doctor. And then check-ins, I mean, we just heard from him. He was like, "Hey, we need to have our check-in." So I think that is probably-- Yeah, just having conversations with the kids and letting them know. Also with Nina and I, that no matter how you portray yourself or they portray you, you're going to have people that have something bad to say. So just try to be yourself, take the good and the bad. But just be your true self and try to represent our family. I think I have to give AJ credit on that one because I did freak out like the first week of filming. And I actually quit. I was like, "I can't do this. I want nothing to do with this." Spoken like a true reality TV star, the-- Yeah, I was not. I was literally like, "This is not for me." And AJ was in my corner. He was like, "Baby, you just got to go out there and be yourself. Just be who you are. People are going to hate you. People are going to love you. But just don't be disingenuous." And I think because of that, we're happy with the way we came across. I'm proud of you. And I know that like she was saying that we weren't supposed to be on the show. Then we were going to be on the show. And it's like, "Oh, we're on the show so that we can attack someone." Like everybody's attacking my wife. But she saw it through and I'm really proud of her. Oh, man. Yeah. Well, every show needs a villain. And usually the villain's one of the biggest stars. So thank you. Hopefully next season we can find someone else. You're not like a villain villain. But in the in the reality TV space, it's actually a compliment. Because like we, you need to be entertained. And it's a very entertaining show. Yeah, I'm learning that. I'm learning that. Like, Jett and Striker, when they were born, I feel like they got named because their parents were like, they have to be professional baseball players. That's funny. Striker, definitely. We're good friends with the football team. Striker, definitely. I think Scott definitely was like, "Woo!" Like you're, yeah. I named him Striker, Jett. With a wife. Yeah, they're cool. Yeah, they're a cool family. But Striker, definitely. What did you say? Yeah, Scott probably sent Striker's baby shoes to Cooper's town already. Cooper's town, yo. What a throwback. Overall, do you feel like this show has brought the families together or has it created some. of vision amongst the parents with a little of both for sure. I think like, you know, some of the girls that were not like for me in the beginning have ended up being some of my best friends. And then I think you can probably tell some of the families that there are some friction with their continues to be a little bit of friction with. But again, that's also club sports. It's just you're not going to be friends with everyone on the sidelines. So you you figure it out, you know? Is it hard? I mean, like, listen, as we get older, we become, we're supposed to be more mature. But like, listen, everyone loves drama. Is it hard not to like give in to like the high school drama of it all with the parents kind of like, you know, fighting over caddy things, because like, you know, we're. A hundred percent. Yeah. Especially for someone like me. Because I'm like, who? What? Who are we fighting? Let me put my hair up in like. Especially for someone like me, not so much for him. He's like cool, he's cool, calm, collected. We're a good little balance, but yeah, I mean, and we have a lot, I mean, it's definitely hard not to get caught up, especially if it's someone that you care about or someone you're trying to defend. Well, it's a fun show, guys. I appreciate you guys taking the time and talking with us about this very fascinating culture. Yeah. Yeah. It's fun. Thank you so much. Yeah. It's best to luck. Are you any any conversations about a season two yet? Or is it too early to ask? Too early to ask. But everyone can go and stream in on Paramount Plus right now and maybe we'll get a chance that season too. All right. Well, Adrian, you know, we appreciate your time. Best of luck to Rocco in his baseball career, hopefully, I'm a big baseball fan. So it will, it will be cool if one of these boys make it to the pro and I can feel like I saw his origin story. All right. And best of luck to you guys and your children. We appreciate it. We appreciate it. Take care, guys. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Best in any conversation. Genuinely it is hard for me to watch that show because it does provoke emotions in, you know, past. I don't even know if you would call it trauma, but just like nostalgia that like, I just think about all the time. Like I know I am who I am because of what youth sports like programmed in me. You know. So it's cool to hear them talk about it though. Like I feel like they get it though. After talking to them with them, I feel like a lot less judgmental, but it's so easy to judge obviously like when it comes to parenting, everyone's judging everyone and obviously the space is like, it's so unique and there's just so many different opportunities to criticize parents in terms of like how they pour themselves into their kids, but they do seem to have a healthy perspective. Yeah. I love that they check in so much like I love that they continuously check in and I love that they brought up how like we want to make sure that he's not just doing this to make us proud. Because that was huge for me, I felt like for a while I was just trying to make my dad proud. And like if I played bad, like it was less about like me playing bad and more about like my dad couldn't get on my ass for this, you know. Yeah. I'm also I was encouraging to see that the network is heavily concerned about like the kids mental health and they have it sounds like a lot of psychologists or you know therapists checking in with the families and the kids so that that is good to see. The wrap things up, we have the Roni episode that was this week and the pace of the show keeps taking off and in a good way. Haley is she's an incredible housewife. She is she's crazy crazy. Like there's fun. Crazy and there's goofy crazy and then there's just like crazy crazy where like I just don't think she's all of it. She's she I just don't know if I could do like I don't know if I could work with her in a reality space because I don't she's so unpredictable. You can count on her pulling up all some roller blades, you can count on that. Yeah. She would absolutely nuts, which it was just like I don't know. I mean she's fun to watch, but like I just don't know how the rest I feel like the rest of the women are don't know what to expect from her. I honestly want to give Aaron credit for the way she like didn't allow Haley to just like do her thing. Now we're going to figure this out, like I'm going to you're not just going to ignore me like you got problems like we're going to figure this out and they figured it out. Aaron's a pro pro. Yeah. We also had side with that was a very touching moment obviously very sad talking about the passing of her mom, but just want to kind of give her flowers for just being able to talk so openly about such a vulnerable topic and just incredibly sad because obviously there was a lot of we knew about, you know, obviously, you know, a little bit of her family history, but I don't think we knew totally what was going on with her mom. And obviously she opened up about it this episode and just kind of a devastating conversation. But just want to acknowledge what size shared and again, these are the moments in reality TV that are, you know, are real, you know, and when these women really open up about these personal struggles, they they open up and allow people to criticize and critique and it must be very difficult to do so just want to acknowledge what she was willing to share. And just just a sad story, but it seemed like it helped her to get it out and talk about it. Yeah. She also had a lot to say on this episode too. She was kind of calling people out a little bit. She called what she called unsolicited vice giver, who'd you say that to? Daisy. Daisy. Yeah. I don't know how I would handle that one. From Daisy's perspective. Yeah. Yeah. It's hard because I feel like that's in friendships when you're like, isn't it just you've got to ask, do you want to just vent right now or do you want like actionable advice? Cause I think that what you do, like you kind of, you chime in. Yeah, you chime in. That's true. I feel like no one actually ever asked that question though. Yeah. You know, like it's like, sounds so good in theory, but everyone is always just like giving advice because listening feels like you're not being helpful, you know? Right. Maybe it's more on the person who's venting to be like, I actually just need you to listen right now. Yeah. And honestly, just to like sit in this with me. Daisy only pays $300 of rent. How do we feel about that? What's the lowest amount of rent you have ever paid? Definitely no. Not that. Not that. No worries. I don't believe that. No. There's no way. I almost don't believe it either. I've been paid $300 in rent since my sophomore year of college when I had two other roommates in 1990. Yeah. Cause you're splitting it. Yeah. Yeah. Is she like a storage unit, maybe not even not in New York? And she can't be. She's gotta be what? You're age. I mean, how old is Daisy? Like it's not like she's had this apartment for the last 60 years, like because even rent controlled, there's an amount that it can go up. It's just like has to correlate with inflation, right? So I'm like, to an extent, it's going to be raised. It's just going to be within the market. She inherited the apartment from her husband who's lived there forever. How old is her husband? He also has got to be around the same age. There's no way he, I mean, when, when, let's, let's ask, when was the last time New York City apartments were $300 to rent? Great depression. The 1930s. Well, he's 57, so a typical market rate apartment in New York City last rented for an average of $300 a month during the late 1960s to very early 1970s. Wow. I'll actually check. I'll actually check. I'll actually check. That checks out. He's 57 years old. Oh, that's why we don't embark. Oh, if he's 57 years old, he was born in the seven, eight, seventies. Yeah. Maybe he's been in this apartment his whole life. He got in this apartment. He was two years old. Yeah, maybe his mom and dad were renting it and then in the family, does, does rent control change when you switch the name on the apartment? Like it can't still be in his parents' names, that would be crazy. Yeah. That's the thing is even with the rent control, it would have to go up a little bit like over all this time. Do we think the popcorn ceilings had anything to do with the lower rent? Justice for the popcorn ceilings, man. No, no justice for the popcorn ceilings. No, no. They're so calm. They're so calm. They're so calm. They're so calm. But it is so calm. It's not awesome. But I would never think to comment on that. That's why I got to love this show. It's everywhere. The thing that this would be a talking point, let alone something to like really like be mad about. Right. Well, they take their first trip next week. So things maybe hopefully we'll start, where are they going? Some island. Some beach. I got a free weekend. I mean, this is a free javes. I would love to do that. So once I'm like figure out where they're going and try to like cross paths, they're going to Erica's Island for his Erica's Island. Erica Hammond's private island. I don't know. - Oh my God. - Ooh, okay. - I have it, I live. - How do I find out people's like shoot schedules, like mid production, so I could just like, photo bomb their shows? - I might be seen on the next season of the secret lives more than why I'm so see, I was at a party. So keep an eye out. - Oh wait, wait. Wait, aren't y'all filming age of attraction soon? - Jimmy shows up. - Jimmy shows up. - I'm my book hotel room nearby. - Be careful, we might cast you. - Yeah. - Only if it's for bomb dating up. - What seal does one of you ever dated, Jimmy? - You say dating though, and I, 'cause-- - What's the only one you ever slept with? - Like late thirties. I don't know what her actual age is, but-- - Can we petition to get Jimmy on the show? I actually think he would be great. - Age of attraction? - Yeah. - We could probably make that work. - I think you should do it. - I consider it for sure. - Like would you seriously consider dating an older woman, like a 38 to 45, like not older, but older for you, you know? - Oh, for a little summer fleeing, I would think I'd be down, but I don't know if I can commit long term to it. - Okay, maybe not then. - I'd have to think about that. - Yeah. - Well, that will do it for today's episode. Thank you to our gassoscafones and Danielle Monet. We appreciate it. Appreciate them and we appreciate all of you. We will be back next week for another jam packed week until then have a good one We'll see you then bye bye