Dynasty Bench Warfare + Scheme Changes for 2026 - Dynasty Fantasy Football

[music] Welcome to the Fantasy Footmoller's Dynasty Podcast with Borg, Betz and a Baller. Welcome in! This is the month of July. Here on the Fantasy Footmoller's Dynasty Podcast, it's another edition of Borg and Betz. Finally, you hit the wind up there with that intro. That was something, let me tell you what. You must be in a July mood. Something about the calendar turning into July just has you feeling good. You got any big plans for July? July is going to be kind to the Borg and Oony family. We're about to finish baseball, summer baseball. But we're going to the beach, a little family trip to the beach. Love it. Going to Vegas later this month with my wife and I. That's going to be really big and by big, I really think people might question, "Are you guys actually doing Vegas the right way because it's going to be way more chill?" I think that people realize. A sleep by 9.30 every night. I mean, I wouldn't hate it. 10 o'clock if you're being crazy. Yeah, yeah. We're going to put the do not disturb on at like eight and just say, "Hey, don't mess with us." But now we're going to get a trip away and then we actually have some other trips coming up with the family. We're going to LA for a Dodgers game and then Phoenix will be in Phoenix for the live show. Beautiful. Yes. Hey, man. It's coming up. Training camps are what? Three weeks away, which we always get to this time of the year and it feels like training camps are still two months out and you're like, "Dude, it's in three weeks, so it should be great. Any big plans for the fourth?" The fourth is just in the south. You know how they do the fourth. They just. I don't. Actually. Oh, man. Please tell me. It's the whole neighborhood. We have about three or four hundred houses in our neighborhood. Everyone gets together, lots of lawn chairs, a little chaotic with a lot of kids and then our whole neighborhood has a firework show. I'm just picturing the scene from the Sandlot. You're one of your favorites. I thought of that today. Like a good old fashioned summer. You know, get together. Everybody got their lawn chair. Kids are playing baseball. A couple hot dogs. You know, I mean, come on. We can go wrong. So I mean, playing baseball into the light sounds magical. But yeah, I think we are at the point of the summer where the fever of NFL rosters are heating up and I wanted to the task that I did this past week was figure out like which teams constructed their roster a certain way like based on this percentage of the roster was drafted. This percent of the roster was free agents. Undrafted guys. Here's who traded for the most players. Like the jets, 10 percent of the rosters players they traded for. It's kind of unconventional. And then I looked at the Eagles and I was like, "Man, you know what? I hate that your Eagles just based on percentages alone." And then you just see the success they've had in the last decade, really. They've done it the right way. It's always how he's seasoned. I mean, come on. What's funny though is the two biggest things that we remember in fantasy football, if you've been playing long enough, the Nelson Aguil or draft pick, right? Didn't not go well, but there's one other one. And then you definitely know if you've been playing for the last five to six years, Jalen Riger. But still, it is a good example that even the best GMs can swing and miss sometimes. Yeah. If you told me that, "Hey, this team picked multiple players in the first round at wide receiver." And just not even just like, "Hey, they weren't great." Or they didn't get a second contract, like just absolutely whiffed. And then they've made a couple of super bowl appearances and they're right back in the mix. Here, it's interesting. So I did put out a chart just showing which every single team, the Vikings, interestingly enough, who had a lot of turnover the last couple of years, especially GM. They had to turn over this year. They drafted without a GM. The lowest percentage of the roster was players drafted by them, just 26%. And the highest, undrafted free agents. Yes. Which, if you have a high percentage of undrafted free agents, that means that either your roster is weak or you found guys later on that were contributors and that could be a good thing. So I put that out. Just so you can see that online if you want on X, your team roster construction. If you want to see all the rankings that we're going to refer to on this episode, you go to ultimatedraftkit.com or dynasty rankings or rookie startup rankings. And I think that'll be interesting for this episode because we're going to be talking about dynasty benches. We call it dynasty bench warfare because you are at the part of the summer where maneuvering your roster right now, you could stay status quo. You could just say, you know what, I have my team. I'm going to wait. But there are moves that you could make because things will start heating up with training camp news. So we'll talk about benches and the way to go about that highlights of different players. And at the very end, we'll play a little bit of stash or trash bets. I found maybe some of the worst players on a dynasty roster submitted by the foot clan. And I want you to either say, Hey, you can hold on this guy or like laugh at them for having them. I can't wait to learn some names today. Like there. Like, oh, that guy's in the NFL. All right. Cool. Not sure why is on your roster. But we'll get to it. Yeah. That'll be good. The quick question I have for us is which stats or studies have you been incorporating more and more in your process this off season? So in the past, we kind of talked about, I've been adding this statistic. I've been adding, you know, this kind of layer of understanding to the game of football, we try to make sure that when we talk about things on this podcast, we get fantasy lens, but you and I both want to preach like there's a statistical side. There's a film got a side that I'm just going to say I start off as a film guy. And now I'm kind of labeled as a stat guy. And it kind of makes me sad because film was kind of where I got started. But you and I try to bring in both sides. PFF Kyle. Oh, we get. PFF Kyle. PFF Bobby. PFF Zach. I mean, you you and these young play collars, you could be the next one Kyle. What are you doing here on the show? You know, they didn't ask for me. They Bobby slow, I did not ask me to be on his staff. And neither did Zach Robinson, which would have been a very easy commute when he was in Atlanta for me to be a part of that. No, but you know who the dolphins did need this year. Kevin Pizzulo. The past game coordinator for the dolphins, which that's a great transition point to talk about what I was going to say. So, you know, like I think right now when we think about schemes and kind of how it's adjusting what you're thinking about a team and players for fantasy, moving into the upcoming season, perhaps it's more of a thought exercise from like redraft standpoint and more just kind of like do you see this players value gaining or decreasing based off what performance they might have this year because in dynasty, like I'm thinking about teams right now that have the biggest bump because of play collar and scheme. Everybody is hot and bothered for the chargers because of Mike big day, right? And it's like, well, Justin Herbert didn't have like no value last year. Like he obviously was still a highly coveted quarterback and fantasy and for dynasty. And especially super flex. That's not just going to change because the play collar change, like he still has a ton of value even last year and the year before and the year before, right? So perhaps it's more of a a ceiling case that you can paint for players and teams. And maybe what the market is not baking into what could become this year. But I think about that. And like I've said this before on on this show and I think on our DFS embedding show, coaching and scheme in the NFL matter way more than any other sport, right? Way more than baseball, way more than basketball, my opinion way more than hockey. Like you see it every year where teams have been flow when their play collar changes. And I think a great example of that last year was the Eagles, right? I mentioned Kevin Batullo. It's like they're coming off the Super Bowl with Kevin Moore who we've been a huge fan of his scheme, his play place for game, his pace, all those things. And you saw it crater last year that Eagles go to 28th and motion rate, 25th and plaction rate. It's like let's set your team up for success. They weren't doing that. The Titans with a very young quarterback and cam ward inexperienced. How can you make life easy on your quarterback? Let's increase motion. Let's increase plaction. They were 30th in motion rate with a rookie quarterback. It's like let's let's insulate our team and our players with easy buttons. And they they weren't doing that. And so I looked at last year the top play action and the top motion rate teams in the league. And it's not rocket science. Like a lot of the most prolific fantasy scoring environments have these elements. The 49ers, the Rams, the Saints, the Bears, the Jaguars, the Packers, the Bucks, right? Like the Coltswishane Steak and these are the teams that are kind of doing it in a smart way. And so I just think about I used to only care about, you know, target share and rushing attempts and all those things. And those are obviously the pillar of what fantasy is where it's a volume based game, but just thinking can this player elevate efficiency? Can this team elevate efficiency because of the scheme and surrounding environment? I don't think that we think about that much as much as maybe like, you know, the ball in our first Kyle do, but I think it does have a huge role in kind of thinking about those right tail outcomes. I think the way that you put it is it's not baked in enough of when a play collar comes in, especially on a middling team or a team that is perceived to have issues. Like one of the things that I wrote down is sometimes we look at a team and say, man, they're teams either bad or their offensive line is bad. And we immediately write them off, but we don't bake in the fact that certain schemes can overcome offensive line issues. If you would have looked at where the Seattle Seahawks would have been ranked last year and said, okay, man, this team has a couple of pieces, you know, but we're not quite sure about JSN. Can he be the number one? The biggest issue last year for JSN was he's never really been in two wide receiver sets. Like that was where the conversation kind of stopped and I, and I was one of those people like, okay, I think he's good, but I'm not really sure because I haven't seen it before. And then we also looked at the offensive line play and thought, man, Seattle's a bottom five unit. Just just looking at grades and units across the board. If you would have just looked at that, you would have said, well, this team's going to be rough, but a scheme can kind of overcome and trump some of those issues because they add in things like play action, things like 12 and 13 personnel, which is what the C-Ox were so good at. And Clint Kubiak is in the exact same situation this year, right? Like, okay, the Raiders, they haven't been really good. They probably have a bottom 10 offensive line. It's going to be a cousins in Mendoza and then we don't know who their wide receivers are. So it can be very easy to kind of write off this team and not bake in the fact that Clint Kubiak is kind of maybe one of the best five play callers in the league. And even recently, there was a really cool interview from Sam Darnold where he talked about his time in San Francisco. And he just kind of shared how Kubiak in Shanahan and all these guys like their scheme helped him so much that when he came to Seattle, like any teamed up with Kubiak, it overcame some of the issues that he had earlier in his career. And I think sometimes we don't bake that in for certain players. So I'm looking at Clint Kubiak. I'm looking at David Blau in Washington as another example of like man, their offensive line is not great, but this is a new scheme. And then Declan Doyle in Baltimore is a wild card to me because we've seen the Ravens be really good. Their offensive line has lost a couple of pieces, Senator Tyler Lindervom and then Patrick Gukard at full back and some tight ends. But this is like a Ben Johnson dude so that can also shift things. Yeah, for sure. I'm really glad you brought up the commanders. I think they're one of those teams that when you when you envision Jane Daniels at LSU and you think back to last year and rookie season, every snap that I'm picturing is him in shock. Right? That's what you did. But there's been so much talk right now with David Blau about let's get under Senator Moore. Let's use more play action. Let's use more pre snap motion because Cliff was a shotgun exclusive Terry lines up on the left. Nobody does anything pre snap. Let's just this is the offense that we're going to run it. And so I think it's a great example where it's like in dynasty, Terry McClaurin's value is clearly going down every year. He's getting older. But it's like, man, if you're a contender and you feel like you need you need one more piece of wider receiver, I might be willing to pay a little more on a trade to get Terry McClaurin this year than I would have last year because of the scheme being such an upgrade. I think it could be we know quarterbacks are way more efficient off play action. I think they're going to run a lot more of Jane Daniels. So I'm excited about that example. That's a good one. So yeah, Terry's an interesting trade for candidate. If you're a contender, obviously he's aging. So it'd be a specific team need, but he's one guy that I could see being a really big benefit of that scheme change. I think if I could just condense this conversation into like one thought, just, you know, what we're sharing. And we're just dudes talking ball, you know, just I mean, it's July. That's what we do. I think it really comes down to we, we love statistics and we love being able to point to certain statistics and say, here's a reason why what happened last year will influence what happens this next year. And yet when you introduce a new scheme, you can't really use last year's statistics. Like as like the own, they describe what happened to Kim Ward and the Titans last year. When you and I were like me and Brian Callahan, that dude is not going to last as head coach. Like we were like, we brought that up before the season. And now you bring in Brian Dable to the Titans and you're like, okay, you can use kind of what he did with the giants. You can kind of use Kim Ward skill set, but like there is a variable with this team that we just don't know what they could be. And that's exciting. That's exciting for some of these players in the passing offense, you know, carnal Tate, and Dale Robinson, even Calvin Ridley is a three is like a fun like I know you're probably over Calvin Ridley, but like he can be a three for a team and function with his team gunner helm as a titan like they're a young, exciting team. And I think a new scheme kind of adds that in. So just part of our process and part of your process really in looking at your players is saying, what are the wild card variables that I'm not baking in with the scheme and you'll get to learn the scheme for these teams in July. Like you'd be like, man, they're lining up a lot more in 12 personnel, the Jaguars for instance, or man, they're using a lot more motion where I bet that's going to be a big thing with the with the Eagles, right? Like you're going to get so many reports of like we're finally seeing motion because we didn't see it last year. Yeah, for sure. And there's also been a lot of suggestion that maybe hurts will be under center more this year. Who knows? Philly media loves to debate. Was that hurts not wanting to be under center? Was it a, you know, Patula issue? Like, okay, maybe it's a little bit everything, but but I think that will look a, I mean, the Eagles offense will look vastly different than anything we've seen recently. So that's a good one. The other one that I was just thinking through and I know we got to move on. The Falcons were up there in motion rate last year and obviously new OC and everything in Atlanta. But Zach Robinson is now in Tampa with Baker and it's like you think about the bucks from last year. And they had that amazing season with the M Cohen. Perhaps it was like kind of predictable to see some regression happen. It was a lot of years to touch down. It was outlier the year before. So last year we kind of predicted maybe it comes down. Chris Galman was coming off major injury, et cetera. And it's like, man, I don't know. Maybe if Baker just gets more of that easy button stuff back in the scheme, maybe Baker and the bucks and surprises this year. So there's another one that I'm kind of circling to monitor and train, and training camp. For sure. Yeah. Mike's been talking a lot about God when kind of being undervalued. Yeah. I think it boogas going to be in a better position as a Z wide receiver and in the way that that works. And an interesting team to kind of buy into that there'll be a bit of a bounce back. I did want to give one little shout out here because you know, we're talking about what are we incorporating in our process when I go to the beach. Got a little book here, which I know some people you don't read anymore. Nerd. But it is the bear's complete offensive manual. Oh man. Oh man. What a beechery this is. What is that and where did you get it? Oh man. Give a shout out to Bobby Peters. He does some good stuff. But basically it's basically their entire playbook and what they ran this past year and kind of breaking down different concepts. Because I was just like, I want to just read and I've watched all every bear snap. So every bear's fan out there, which they're allowed bunch on social media. They're passionate. I've watched every single bear snap and I've watched every single Caleb snap. I feel like two or three times. And I was like, man, what did Ben Johnson is such a smart play caller? The Andre Swift, like, look like an all pro running back at times in this scheme. Even Kyle and unguy seventh round running back. So I was just like going back through and just looking at the scheme because people are going to copy Ben Johnson. Like that's what's going to happen over the next couple of years. He has a little bit of variation from like the Shanahan, Imitate system. So I mean, come on, bats. Who wouldn't want 500 pages of Chicago bears? Two thousand twenty five plays at the beach. I am excited to learn from you when you get back about that. And specifically, I'm interested to kind of take this like to the next level. If you say this is kind of what I've learned and this is what I saw, Declan Doyle in Baltimore. That's fascinating to me as well because you think about the Ravens. We've had Harbohl there for so many years in Todd Munkin and I love Munkin. But I think that team will just look so different and we might be like a week one or two. Like, whoa, this is not the team we know. So once you figure, figure that out after reading your book on the beach, Kyle, your toast is in the sand. Can you give us the TLDR? Yeah, I can do that. I can give you the clip notes version. I do think when we get in season, we do a segment on this podcast. We do a weekly film rewind. We go through and talk about what we watch on film. But I do think with Dynasty, it is a great moment to zoom out and talk about these players from not just a value standpoint of like, you know, here's who I could trade, but just talking ball and being able to zoom out and do that stuff. So if you want more of that, I feel like there's room for us to talk more and more of just scheme and that type of stuff. That conversation excites you. Feel free to reach out contact at penisfootballag.com or make sure you DM bets and I let's say quick break and we'll talk about Dynasty benches. All right. Before we get into the segment, I just want to remind us that Dynasty benches are more important than I think we realized. I look at my roster right now and when I send it to people just to show off, I'm like, okay, here's my starting roster. Like, here's what I got. Here's my four stud wide receivers on this team and it looks really, really good. And then I remind myself every single year that there are dudes that I either forgot were on my team and then you get to like week 13 or 14, like, oh my gosh, bam night. Save me. Like, do you know, bam night have three top 20 weeks in a row. It was like week 12, 13 and 14 last year. Honestly, you could have asked me that and I would have never guessed. You could have given me 20 guesses. I would have never would have gotten that. I was looking at just players at the running back position because I think that's where we get a lot of bench guys that feel like, oh, can I cut this guy? And then you come back later and it's like, oh, come on, you by now, you really needed him last year for a stretch. Yeah. And it was really valuable or even somebody that you wouldn't have cut, but like Ramondray would have been a player that once Trevo got drafted, you're like, oh, well, I guess this guy's not going to be valuable. You stuck my bench now for the next three years. Yeah. It's just reminding yourself that we need benches that are resilient that like help us as the season goes on. So we talked last week about you don't have enough running backs in your roster. We did some roster reviews every single year, every single person needs more running backs on the roster. So we'll talk about some of those. review some bench strategy. So let's go for it. It's not as deep bench for fair. All right, Betts. What I want you to do too is we'll find from the foot clan who the nastiest players are on their bench. But I want you to also pull up one of your teams and just find me just a dirty, dirty player player that you're like, I got you. Like you're almost ashamed to bring them up on the show that people hear it. And they're like, gosh, man, Betts doesn't know ball because he has this dude, like Jalen Polk, for instance, get ready. I'll find an nasty for you. Don't worry. Okay. So we're going to talk about dynasty benches go through running backs, wider sewers and tightens and a couple different players at each position that we're kind of highlighting. But I did want to remind people that this is the time of year that it's really easy to kind of not do anything. There's not much action right now. At the beginning of July before training camps, but I did run an article last year called five steps. So you don't fart around this summer, dynasty bench strategy. So that sounds like a summer read. Yeah. I don't know how many words it is, but I feel like I don't know if it's a beach read, might be a pool read. Okay. That's fine. Okay. So we're going to talk about some different players and really with a bench, you're trying to build out depth for your team, but also like find lottery tickets that you know can hit. And one of the ways that we do that is we talk about gathering a range of outcomes for players. So looking at certain guys like, come on, you've I doubt and say to yourself, man, this is a really bad rookie year. You could have gone in your team and say they drafted a Mary and Hampton. He doesn't matter. But you also could have looked throughout the summer and said, if there's a direct backup, it could have been him or don't forget. Najee Harris was on that roster this past year. And then he had his incident. So you're gathering a range of outcomes for certain players and then you're also. You need to clean your house of the dusty guys that really you don't need. So the guy we always bring up and I feel almost bad at this point that he's been our punching bag over the years. It's Van Javersen. He's like the perfect example of a player that makes NFL rosters. He will probably have more routes run than you think. And yet at the end of the day, Van Javersen is not really helping you at all. So you're trying to figure out like on your roster are there guys like that that you can either move on from or at the very bottom. So like Jahan Dotson has been one of those guys the last like two years that set the very end of my bench in the back of my mind. He still has first round draft capital. And yet I couldn't cut him for a long time. Now he's a falcon. And I definitely can't cut him. I did actually cut him the other day. Good. That's therapeutic. Okay. Yeah. So did you find somebody who's like really dirty on your team? I mean, I've got a couple. They're not the worst because you can see why they were rostered. The nastiest one that I could find is Antonio Gibson. Oh, man. Which according to sleeper, he's only on 10% of rosters. So I am in the top 10% of the world. They're all trying to get to do Gibson. Is that just to tell everybody in your league that you're holding somebody that was once a back-to-back RB1? That's right. Never forget. I wish Michael's on the show. I wish corporate cared about our show. If Michael's here, he would, he would stand with me and solitude. One of the things that you can do also is with young white receivers, it's very easy to hold onto them and just hope that one day they break out. But there are certain markers every single year that you have to look at and be like, okay, is this guy behind me eight ball? And is this situation getting worse? So we brought up last episode about like Pat Bryant, Kyle Williams and Isaac Tesslaw. I'm not telling you to cut those guys, but you do have to have them in your mind as saying, despite them being young and getting third round draft capital, their marks through the first year in Yards, Per Out Run and Target, Per Out Run are like very, very low. Like compared to all the third run wide receivers, Kyle Williams at 12% targets Per Out Run 1.24 yards per Out Run. Like that's a red flag that at the end of your bench, you might be hoping for him to break out. He seemed like, what could you cut Kyle Williams? Probably. Yeah, I mean, it's like last year, you couldn't cut on the field, no disrespect to Mac Holland's, but I couldn't get on the field over Mac Holland's and a bunch of replacement level talent, right? A wide receiver for a team that was going to the Super Bowl. And now it's like, okay, AJ Brown's here. So and Romeo Dubs. So yeah, you probably could. Yeah, you can go through that process if you want. And like Jack Besh, we joke about him all the time because he's, we were Besh boys. We've always loved him. And yet the reality is he struggled to get on the field and a really thin roster. His second round draft capital is still like kind of staying with us, but 1.26 yards per Out Run. I have a little doc right now where it kind of shows after the first year, if somebody has a red flag based on their profile, their time and just comparing them. He has two out of three red flags when you have three red flags, you are just done zo to me. Like you are just, you are done. So he has two where like Kyle Williams has two as well. And Matthew Golden has one after this first year. He already had one coming in to me, but now he's like, has like a second strike. And that just kind of me just, I'm just kind of keeping a ticker of like, man, these guys are building something that's not that great. And then when you get to year two, you have certain guys that like, cannot come back. For instance, Germain Burton. Yep. Roman Wilson. It's over Malachi Corley never happened. Jalen Polk. That's over. Like, is he still on the Saints roster? I believe so. I believe he is. I don't know if he makes the team, but I think he is at least there for now. What's funny about Jack Besh, Kyle, you were talking about, you know, I can come feel it as a water seeker. We know Kubiak loves those multiple tight and sets has Mr. Besh considered a potential move back to tight and because he did start his college career at the tight end. He's my I don't hate that. He just happens to be on the roster that has the most stacked tight in room in the league. I know Michael Mayer is good. I know. So yeah, sadly, it's, it's not going to happen for best. And then like one more example of this, if you're like coming through your team, I don't think I would cut this guy. But dear Lord, Xavier Legett has dude. Okay. On my list, he had two out of three red flags coming in to the league. And we talked about him at length that year that he came out. And it's like, I remember Jason being like, this will not work. But, but man, it's enticing, right? Cause he's an athletic beast. He dominated his family year, but it's like these guys that have one year of college production, you know, 23 years old or whatever it was. It's, this just is not the group you want. And I think after a couple of years, we know the answer because not just his peripherals being terrible, but you follow their moves. They said, it's not good enough. We need to know how to make a million. It's not good enough. We have to sign jail and cook for an extension. We have to draft Chris Brazil. So they're telling us. Yeah. I think if you needed to cut him, I think it's really hard to cut a first round wide receiver. And I use that in air quotes because he was the last pick for a team that traded up for him that can sensously probably shouldn't have been a first drum pick. And his draft capital is like the thing that's counting the most for him. If we're honest, yeah. So you can go about that if you want to go through your wide receivers. Like when we talked about roster reviews last week, like this is a another way for you to comb through your bench and basically like ask yourself, like, okay, what am I actually hoping for with Xavier? And I think it's like cutting a player is mostly due to like fear of like, I am so scared of him going off on somebody else's team. I wouldn't be worried about that. I'm not either, but I'm saying that's the, that's part of the process of cutting a player like Johan Dotson. When I cut him the other day, I was like, I feel like it would count double because I drafted him. He was a first round wide receiver. And he's now in the Falcons. I mean, dude, they don't have wide receiver depth. You tell me a little to a to Johan Dotson for all the money. Come on. It wouldn't be the worst thing. Let's go through a couple of positions and talk about your benches. And you and I can give some caveats to certain players. So let's start at running back. Name a running back to you that is a valuable bench player that has stand alone value for 2026. Yeah, this is, it's hard to find like deep names in dynasty that have stand alone value. So these are not going to surprise you. But I think both Pittsburgh running backs were not really sure how the touches are going to get distributed this year between Jellim Warren and Rico Dattle are both guys that, if I'm a contender, because they're, they're not the youngest obviously. But if you're looking for an RB three RB four for your squad and your contender and you need some depth, I think both of those guys, whether it's in a startup, if you haven't done one yet, or in a trade, are not going to cost you much. And I think there's a really good chance both guys have flex value type weeks throughout the entire season. But then there's also that what if one guy gets hurt, contingent upside that then it really unlocks your dynasty roster as a contender. So I think both Warren and Dattle are interesting. Again, this is like a, I'm a top 14. My league, I need an RB three RB four, you know, send a late second form, that's everything. Yeah, it'll be interesting how they handle carries inside the five last year. Warren had 14 carries and only turned those into four touchdowns. So that was a 29% success rate. That was on the lower end of running backs. While Rico on the Panthers, eight carries turned into six touchdowns. And And that can be a little bit of noise because it's a small sample size, but Rico kind of profiles as the back inside the five. He has the relationship with Mike McCarthy. I think Rico, like could you see a scenario where Rico does the same thing he did to Chubo, where he ends up being the lead guy at some point. I think it's possible. But the thing is, which remember Aaron Rogers at this point is going to trust. He loves him. Jalen Warren. That's what I mean. He trusts Jalen Warren. Whoever's not going to get him laid out by defense events. So if Warren is the guy that Rogers says, I want him on there on past downs and we've talked about that on other shows. We think the Steelers will be a little more pass heavy than people realize. Then I could think Warren might play too much to like unlock Rico Dotto. But like I said, there's a chance you get the goal line role through. Go Dotto. And if Kenny Gimel's usage is in some way, repeatable. I don't think it is because it was outlier. But if it's somewhere repeatable, just saying like Aaron Rogers will check it down a lot. The player than to me that most likely will see that as Jalen Warren. So you can make an argument for both guys, which is why I think they're both wrong. Like the flex type play situation. Then it locked in RB 2. The running back I wrote down is Kenneth Gainwell. And I like I just want players like this that have a pass catching profile with an opportunity to have these have an extended run. Like we saw that last year. It's a different offense. But we talked earlier about Zach Robinson, the amount of motion that could be added into the offense and just the variable of I'm not expecting Baker may feel everybody to be status quote like they were the final. I don't know eight weeks of the season. It was painful to watch the Buccaneers just slowly but surely kind of bleed out. I mean, so many injuries. Yeah, it was bad. So Kenneth Gainwell, I feel like is a valuable player that if he was my RB 4 on my roster, I would be very excited to feel like I had the depth that I think you can flex Kenneth Gainwell in week one. Possibly. I mean, yeah, probably. But get definitely gets a boost in PPR. I find it tough to see a player like this. Getting much beyond what we saw last year, which was like 90% top. Yeah, I don't think it's going to increase his targets at all. I just think you need to be realistic about what you're getting with this player. And that's why these guys are on the discussion for your bench, right? These are not the guys you're starting on. Last year Kenneth Gainwell's role, the way it played out was unbelievable. Obviously, that's going to come down. But yeah, just just talking through like this guy will have weeks where you can plug him in by weeks, injuries, that type of thing. You can plug him in as a flex player, especially in PPR. He'll get a boost. All right. Let's talk about some young insurance running backs that you could have on your bench that you want to highlight because I wrote down Nicholas Singleton. If you think about his value from end of season to him getting hurt and senior bowl, it's just plummeted to the point of like, okay, this guy's hurt. And the sentiment was like, this is going to kill his draft capital. And it did. And yet his value has only gone up because of the landing spot. We know that Tony Pollard and Taj A Spears are not under contract for 2027. So I feel like he's one of those guys that you would be very excited if you would have got him in, say, the second or third round of your rookie draft in a week overall class. So normally I feel like he would have been the third round pick in rookie drafts. But I would be excited if you had him as your RB five and you're just saying, I'm going to wait and see where this goes. And maybe a year from now they draft his replacement. And he's not good. But he has his skillset. We know he can catch the ball. So Nicholas Singleton is a guy I would be excited as a young insurance back. Yeah. Makes sense. Just to kind of see what shakes out. It's so important to look ahead to the next season for contracts and he's the only real guy under contract. So if Taj A Spears and Pollard are not it for next year, at least there's a world you can dream on where it's like maybe he's the guy. So we'll see. I also threw out Dylan Samson. It's the guy that I don't think anybody talked about anywhere on any show for like a year. But if you recall last year, the Browns doubled up by taking Juddkins and Dylan Samson. And I think Samson's ability and the NFL in like role as far as what could he could be. It certainly kept obviously with Juddkins there who presumably is looking good coming off of his injury and all those things. But I just think about a contingent play that if you are looking for a player that I think can play in the league and have a couple spot fillings. I think Dylan Samson could do that. Maybe if Juddkins is just not 100% coming off this injury or if he haven't forbid he gets another one. So the Browns are obviously a team that nobody is projecting for a ton of touchdowns and that sort of thing. But just thinking about like who is a cheap player I could add to my bench that nobody cares about right now that hey, we looked up in week six and Juddkins has a hamstring injury. Like your plug and a minute is an RB two. So I think he's interesting. And there were some fans of his coming out of Tennessee just a year ago. I mean, that just delights my heart. He is on my bench in Dino, Jr. And he had a couple of little brief moments. There's some inefficiencies running the football, but yeah, I definitely think his skill set. He's also super young man. Like he came to league super young. He's not even 22 yet. So yeah, I would be very happy if I had Dylan Samson as like RB five or six. I mean on my team, he has to be like RB four just because it's so bad at running back. But still you've actually named so far two running backs that are on my Dino, Jr. roster, Rico Dattel and Dylan Samson. There you go. So it sounds like I have a really good bench on this team. It sounds like that's that's what I'm that's what I'm here. Well, Rico Dattel has to be a starter right now because that's how bad the running back situation is for this team. Maybe you should trade Rico Dattel and plan for next year. Dude, I don't know man. I keep going back and forth. I feel like my rebuild has gone a little faster than I thought and running back to the one position that I feel behind. I think everybody feels that way. Yeah, but mine's even like I mean, Dattel is my RB one. I clean the house. I cleaned house and then last year I tried so hard to trade Rico Dattel. I don't know if anybody else is out there, but like during that run of a couple weeks in Carolina where he's just crushing them like sweet. I have a valuable asset. I can trade this player and people are like, here's a third. I was like, come on. Let's let's figure out a deal and everyone's just stone walling me. Whatever. All right, one more running back category is a lottery ticket running back. So we talked about insurance like we know this guy is the backup. This is I don't know what this player is, but he has a skill set that I think is untapped and who knows what they are a year from now. I put Demon Clayborne, which is the Vikings rookie running back. His value also plummeted after the draft because he ended up being a day three pick that no one really cares about. I liked him in the pre draft process and I hate using this comparison, but it's like when I watched Bucky film a couple years ago, I'm like, this guy's small, but I think he's explosive and between the tackles better than what we think. I think Clayborne is very similar. He just had a lot of boom bus moments in our comparison in the dynasty pass. I called him the La Croix version of James Cook. So I don't know if that's kind. I don't know if that's mean, but a year from now, we don't know what Jones Aaron Jones or Jordan Mason are. I think Clayborne eventually could have something down the stretch where they get a look at him. He's definitely a player that I have my eye on. If he gets no run at the beginning of the year, I almost like that in the sense of I could trade for him or add him in a package deal as a throw-in if I'm a rebuilding team. I think the way that they've talked about him and this makes sense given his overall profile and build is more of a special team's contributor right away, which is the expectation. Like you're saying, just if late in the year, they want to get a look at him. It's like, okay, maybe he could and like you said, it's not going to cost anything. So as a lottery ticket, I don't hate it. I threw out a couple of backs from last year's rookie class that did literally nothing. And I'm talking about maybe Jane Blue. We'll see. Some questions about maturity and off the field. They say he's got a 180 in his attitude. His attitude was that bad that he had a 180. Turned it all the way around. Not wearing Louis Vuitton cleats this time around. So that's a good thing. But just maybe they want to get some touches for him. We'll see whatever again, has the past catching pedigree. So in PPR, make some sense. We'll see. And then I also thought is DJ Giddens, the RB2 behind Jonathan Taylor because in some backfields, you know for sure who the RB2 is. And even in Dynasty, that guy will have at least some small amount of value in the event the starter goes down. If Jonathan Taylor gets injured, we don't. Like is it Seth McGowan who was around seven pick is a DJ Giddens? There's really nobody else on the step chart. So there's a chance Giddens is on your waiver wire. And it's like man, he at least has the ability to potentially kind of step in if Jonathan Taylor goes down. So he'd be my bet for this role if that happens. So again, if he's on your waiver wire, maybe just throw him on and you got a lottery ticket. I have no memory of DJ Giddens from last year. And then I also feel I realized that I wrote his blurb in the old. Ultimate draft kit. So I was like, what did I write about him? I said, the former fifth round draft pick could be the presumed backup to Jonathan Taylor. However, we confess that his rookie season does not give us a ton of information as he touched the ball 26 total times and was active in three total games from week eight on. Not a lot. There's nothing statistically to argue for this player. I just looked at the duck chart and said, huh, nobody cares about RB2, but obviously Taylor is projected for a ton of work. What happens if he gets injured? Yeah, I, his dynasty outlook. I just, I, it's so funny. You and I write so much that we forget. But his dynasty outlook, I said, if Taylor were to go down, he could vault into being an every down guy, but there were. that remains mere speculation. In the words of Cosmo Kramer, giddy up, DJ nailed it. I put a sign felt reference. I don't know why, but yeah, I love looking at those type of back fields because it's like Jonathan Taylor and nobody else. And yet we talked about this last year, the Colts, and maybe this next year, like we got to figure out, like we still don't know what this team is beyond this year. With Shane Stuykin, we don't know what this team is. Yes, they brought Daniel Jones back. That still feels like a mystery. Josh Downs is in a contract here. It's still like a fragile team, I feel like. Like it wouldn't shock me if they ended up third or fourth in the division. That would be surprised by that at all. No. All right, let's move to wide receivers. I want you to name a veteran wide receiver that's on somebody's bench that you feel like has a more defined role than what people realize. Or at least maybe they could be a better contributor than what people think because as a veteran, they're like, ah, I know what this player is and they're old. Yeah, I'm gonna go with Rashid Shaheed for this answer. That's a fun one. And like obviously last year when he got traded to Seattle, we all were like, oh, what a great fit with Sam Darnold on the deep ball Rashid Shaheed's got all that speed. And I just wonder like if he didn't have enough time to kind of mesh in and earn that role as the wide receiver too, because there was plenty of weeks where Cooper Cup was running more routes than Shaheed. And obviously Shaheed was unbelievable in the return game. It was a huge difference maker for that team in that role. But it wasn't that long ago on the Saints that we were talking about him as like a really fun upside flex play because of his ability to catch the long touchdowns and develop as a legit wide receiver. He had some pretty efficient yards for that run seasons as well when he first came into the league on more limited samples. But I just think this is a player who we all think of him as the return specialist. He's just a gadget guy because that's what we saw in Seattle last year after the trade. But he was running all the routes in New Orleans. And I think there's a chance with Cooper Cup just another year older, they signed Shaheed to that extension this off season that we would say, oh, he's actually running as the wide receiver too. And Cooper Cup got relegated because he's just a veteran at this point. So Rashid Shaheed, again, it's going to be boom bust, of course. But just thinking about the way it ran out for JSM last year, it's hard to have an offense function that way where there really isn't a legit second option. So if we just say JSM might regress a little bit, where do those targets go? I think Rashid Shaheed could be the answer, especially because we do have a new play call here. I like that. And I don't think that they resigned him to a major extension to be a special team's ace only. Right. Deep ball guy only where you can put him in motion and do lots of other things. So I like that call as somebody on your bench. Hopefully he's like your wide receiver five or six. You're not counting on Rashid Shaheed, but I think there could be a boost this year. I wrote down the non-Egg Bukka wide receivers because I feel like Egg Bukka might be one of the most talked about players for the second off season in a row. I looked at our show notes of the main ballers. He is the most talked about wide receiver, this entire off season. It's like him and Brian Thomas Jr. I have been the dudes because of how bad the end of the year was. But if you look at the fallout from Egg Bukka, it's like Evans and San Francisco, I think is undervalued in your league. And then Godwin who we mentioned earlier, I feel like is also somebody that's lost in the mix that it would not shock me if Chris Godwin, who was coming off an injury, kind of like seen as like, oh, he's old and dusty. Like he could see 120 targets this year. And nobody wants him in dynasty. So I'm not telling you go trade for Chris Godwin. I'm telling you, if he's on your roster, like don't discredit him, I think he will become a flex player for your team. And obviously the biggest question on Chris Godwin is just, where is he at health wise at this stage of his career? It wasn't that long ago that we talked about that he was unbelievable. I remember when he had the ankle fracture dislocation, that season he was like a league winning player until the injury happened. End of game against the Ravens. He was on my team. Monday night football. Yeah, that hurt. And so the question is like, what does he have left at this point? But because his cost is nothing, basically he's just on your bench for free or if you are a contender and there's some positive camp reports and you wanna throw like a third to get him, like I think a third might get it done at this point, where the risk is so low, I'm willing to find out. And it's because they kind of have talked up Ted Hurst and Jellemick Millen as like their ex-receiver and the way that I'm viewing that, if you think about the Zach Robinson thing, we talked about some pre-snap motion, kind of just a more creative offense. Like could we get more of those easy targets for Gbuka and for Godwin? I think those are gonna be the volume players in the offense in the past game. So I really like this call. I've warmed up to him as a player that might be more important to fantasy than we realize with the caveat of like, of course, we're gonna learn pretty quickly, like what he has left in the tank, but if he has anything left because of his cost, he could definitely be a player that helps you. - Yeah, he could add him to you on this thing, we're like the first half. He's like a great example. - He's a valuable player that nobody wants 'cause he's older and I'm not saying like you're gonna trade him away and get value, but like you get a run with him. That's like not every single player has to be traded away in dynasty to extract value. If Chris Godwin ends up being the wide receiver, I don't know, 18 for the first like six weeks of the season. It's like, for sure. - Oh sweet, just just hold onto that. Let's take a quick break and we'll be back. (upbeat music) All right, this is a fun category for your dynasty benches. It's called the Young and the Hopeful at Wide Receiver. And last year I wanna give you a little shout out. I went back to our doc. You highlighted Jeylen Coker as a player that, you know, coming into the second year, you're like, "Hey, I don't know what he is. I don't know fully, but I feel like there's a little glimmer there." So, little hat tip to you and Jeylen Coker. Who do you have for this year? - All right, well, if that's the sign of what is the expectation to hit on this player, if you drafted this guy last year, you'll be excited that my answer is Matthew Golden. - What a funny year for both of us. Talking about Matthew Golden on this podcast positively. - I know, and the more than I think through the angle here, it's just, I think the routes that are available to him are going to be so obvious. Like, we'll be back in the third week of the season. We're like, he's running 87% of the routes. Like, obviously, right? Because we have Christian Watts on one side. You have Jaden Reed. And I'm a Jaden Reed believer. I've kind of liked him a lot ever since he came into the league. But at some point with the player, you kind of have to be realistic and say, it's probably not gonna be a player that they put in two Irish-ever sets at a high frequency. I think it's gonna be Matthew Golden and Christian Watts. And so last year where the cost to get him in a rookie draft was higher than I wanted, I just, I wasn't interested. Now we're at a point in, you know, where it's like, I don't know if you're gonna start up or something or you wanna throw like a second from a 2028 class or something just to see, I don't mind that. So I'm at least hopeful that he has the scheme and quarterback play around him that we could have some spike weeks from Matthew Golden. I do think it's gonna be frustrating just from a consistency standpoint. With Tucker Kraft looking healthy and Christian Watts in and Josh Jacobs in the wrong game and those things. But I do think at least we should leave the light on for Matthew Golden one more year. If he flops this year, then I think we can put it to bed but they're giving him every opportunity. Just to give you some metrics, looking at every first round wide receiver of the last decade and what they did, what they averaged in target throughout run in Yards Pro and if you're a first round wide receiver, you should probably hit 20%. That's like, that's kind of the benchmark of like you've hit the 50th percentile. Yards Pro outrun is around 1.70. He was below both. So 17% target throughout run, 1.46 Yards Pro outrun but I brought it up a couple of weeks ago where I went back and rewatched a lot of his targets and a lot of his stuff, especially in the slot. When they moved in the slot, good things happened. When they moved Christian Watts in the slot, good things happen. So I think that's gonna be interesting the way that they find the receiver that kind of moves in and out. I did wanna bring up, 'cause I gotta bring up Christian Watts and sat that just be smirches him. Okay, you're such a hater. Christian Wattson's routes through four years in his career. In 2022, it was $259 next year, $275, $273, and $244. The dude has never run 300 routes in a season. How is that possible? Sounds like 2026 is the year. I hope so. I hope he stays healthy. Like I'm rooting for Christian Watts in the play. No, you're not. No, you're not. It would make Kyle so happy if Christian Wattson disappoints this year. He would not be happier. 'Cause all the whole time, the whole time, the whole season. Mike was excited, I'm excited. Everybody's like, oh, Christian Wattson's a fun, mid-round pick and read draft. I gotta be the only reason, man. I hope he fails. You're such a hater, Kyle. It's okay to have fun, dude. You know that, right? Do I let my hair down? Yeah. You're going to Vegas? Let your hair down. Come on. I just don't, I just think people lost their minds when you got an extension. And then we get the contract details. I did bring that up. I know. You were so happy about the Closha Kier thing. I haven't seen Kyle smile that much in years, everybody. Okay. And Kyle found out that Christian Watts had got less guaranteed money than Closha Kier. And he has been beaming year to year for weeks. It is the, it's my, you know that it's my personality that when everybody runs through something, I'm like, okay, so what are we not seeing here? Let's take a step back. We get all this headline. Everybody's looking at the headlines of what Tom Palacere, whoever puts out there from the agent. And then we actually get the contract. It's like, oh, next year this team could move on. That's, we need to deal with that. We can't just put our heads in the sand. Whatever it is. Okay. All right. I think Jeremy Bernard Gurmy is an interesting player because we think the Steelers will throw it. more this year might my car. He loves three wide receiver sets. So I think he's going to be he's going to be on the field of ton because they've cleaned house from all the other dudes that didn't matter on the roster. And he's versatile. I keep played a lot in the slot now. I will say he was not as efficient as we wanted him to be for being Alabama's top wide receiver. We also kind of hold it against him. At least I do from watching a lot of Alabama football of man. There's been a lot of good wide receivers that have come through Alabama and he would not be on the top 15 list at all. He's Kyle dude. There's been a lot of new wide receivers man. But you're right. I mean, you're right. For for context, just if if you miss some of the offseason discussion on Jamie Bernard, he was a career 1.9 zero yards per run player in the NFL. That's a pretty decent mark. It's actually a really good mark in college. When we're thinking about the 0.1% of guys that translate and become fantasy stars in the league, that number is incredibly low. So I have question marks on him. But I think the way that we framed it in in spring before the NFL draft happened and all those things is like this is a pretty high floor player. You can do a lot of things, but he's not like a Lee and any one thing. And so I'm hopeful that this is the right scheme for him. But the tricky thing is like at best, he's probably third in targets. But there's a world that exists where he's like fifth in targets this year. Yeah. And so it I don't see a high season with him. But I think like you said, just young and helpful. Maybe he can develop into a flux play for us. That's kind of what I'm envisioning for Brown. All right. A couple more categories here before we play a little game. Name somebody at White receiver that is young and you're just saying, Hey, it's not happened. And for instance, last year we brought up Malachi Corley and it's like, Hey, you can cut this guy and he ended up on a different roster on the Browns. Yeah. We already talked about Zebra again. He would be one for me. I'm also going to go with Keon Coleman. Oh, that one hurts. Yeah. Just the Shakira extension and obviously trading for DJ Moore. It's hard to see it, man. It's it like I think I would still hold on to Keon Coleman. And I think you can. But there is a real world where like the bills don't hold on to him. And the bills just be like, we're done. Because Brandon Bean though, he like, he doesn't want to be proven wrong. And he's pointing the finger at everybody else. But he is one of those GM's that's like, I will go down with this ship. I was not my favorite moments of the entire off season was the was like the post last year meeting and they held the press conference. And it was like to be fair, you know, that wasn't his pick. Keon wasn't it wasn't his pick. It's like, dude, you cannot say that. That is that is really good adulting by the way. I've just like imagine like telling your kids. I think about this with mine. It's like, Hey, all you need to do is just blame shift, man. That'll make your problem go away for sure. Wasn't me. It was him. That's just that's so weak from an NFL billion dollar organization. I cannot believe they did that man. Um, I'm not a kid. I said it last week, I think Kyle Williams, you can move on from Pat Brian. I think you can hold, but I don't really see a scenario where things really shake out too well. I think for this year, it's obviously tough. But I will say like this Coral and Sutton is getting up there in age. Dude, his contract, though, says that this guy's still going to be on the team. I know, but it's like, man, just if over time he kind of gets phased out, I could see Pat Brian kind of feeling that that role. He just I would hold him personally. Just such weird players, Kyle Williams, Pat Bryant, Isaac Tesla, over overdraft in the NFL from what we thought they would be. Yeah. And this isn't like a we're dunking on the, but like through one year, you can kind of like paint the picture of like, okay, this doesn't feel like a meaningful NFL player. But Pat Brian, I think you can hold on. Let's go to Titans. Last year, my little tutu, does that. I brought up a rendez-gadston in the off season. It's like, Hey, here's a young Titan that I'm going to roll the dice on. And I have him in a couple of leagues and it gained a ton of value. Now, a year later, it's like, okay, well, the ceiling might not be there this next year with Charlie Kohler and David and Joku, but definitely an interesting player. I wrote down for a young Titan that we're waiting on is Eli Raridan or Raridan. If you want to call him that. Dude is humongous. And a year from now, Hunter Henry will probably not be on the roster. He's 66245 and people will love this. He has a basketball background. That is everything. People are, people are scooping him up. I mean, hopefully you got him in your rookie drafts. I like that call. I'm not sure if you mentioned this Hunter Henry, finally your under contract. I did. Okay. Love that way to go bets for paying attention. I have two names and one that I actually just thought of when you were talking about Raridan, who I'm going to throw out last, it's very spicy. Terrence Ferguson is a guy that was a second round pick last year. And the category is this we're waiting for him. It might be the case that we see more Colby Parkinson that you then you like this year. Maybe they give Tyler Higby the veteran you've been in our team for a long time. Open the season, you're running more routes. Okay. Okay. But like I think Terrence Ferguson, there's a world that exists where you don't even have to wait that long. He could be just sitting there and nobody saw it coming where he is the guy that leads the Titan room and routes. And yes, they will run a lot of 13 and 12 personnel and they will frustrate you because they will have some Davis Allen out there and all those guys. But just if there's a past catching Titan to really take the leap, I think it's going to be Terrence Ferguson. He has the athletic profile and quietly, I mentioned this on the DFS and betting show last week in weeks 14 to 17. They kind of started to flip it where it was Colby Parkinson all year. And then slowly we saw Terrence Ferguson snaps jump from 64 to 78 to 76%. And then he gets injured in week 17 with the hamstring injury. Only played about half the snaps before getting injured and then misses, you know, week 18 and then in the playoffs. You're not going to put a rookie out there coming off an injury who wasn't involved in the install for the week and all those things in your biggest games of the season. So I think there was a little signal last year of like, maybe this guy is is the answer of the future. So I think Terrence Ferguson is super interesting. But obviously people drafted him. I think like in the second round last year, so it's not going to be a free thing. But if you've got him, hold on and see the other name that I thought of and this guy is likely on your waiver wire is Eric all junior. Okay. Bengals who you mentioned the reason I made the connection to because the ACL injury type thing from rarid and this is a player who has multiple ACL injuries in his background. He basically has not played in the NFL because of that. But there's a lot of positive coach speak on him coming out of that camp and, you know, Mike Gisicki is good for his role as kind of this big slot receiver. But like they kind of need a legit inline tight and I think there's a chance Eric all could be that again. Nobody should be surprised that this doesn't work, but I think he's interesting. They've talked them up quite a bit. A tight end veteran that's in a new role or new location is kind of our final category here. And I just I'll keep talking about Chica Conco till he's out of the league. But as a tight you got it. Oh, man. If I was ready, come on. Man, I love some Chica Conco. And I have enjoyed kind of following David blouse scheme. This whole off season because the way that Terry McClure and talked about it, Jane Dano's talked about it and chick the other day said he's going to quote unquote be unleashed. I know all of that is hype, but at least with the contract and the location and the vacated targets here. I think there's room for him. So if he was my tight end to I feel pretty good about it. Interesting. Yeah. The the name that I threw down probably is not going to get anybody excited. I don't even know if people want to give a third for him. Yeah. It's Pat for our myth. We talked about the Steelers quite a bit actually on this show, but thinking about the pass rate and how it could change this year and the scheme could change this year. We're only one season removed removed removed from this guy leading the team in receptions. And obviously nobody's projecting that, but he was a tight in 10 in 2024 for fantasy. John Smith was on this team last year. Like we kind of forget that, right? And so if we see less of the Arthur Smith tight end rotation stuff. Could Pat for our myth come back up to 70% of the snaps and be a guy that's kind of a mostly every down player. I wouldn't be surprised by that. They did pay during a Washington. So he'll have a role. But just thinking about like a veteran that's boring that the role change might look different that we look up and we're like, oh, I plugged him into my lineup four times this year as a starter. I wouldn't be surprised by that with Pat for our myth. So I think he's interesting, especially was on your bench. He's still not even 28 years old yet. So he's still in that window where it could happen for fantasy. All right, before we wrap up, let's play a little game. Stash or trash. All right, we play a lot of games. The fans football is one of my favorite parts. And sometimes we play a game called can't cut that guy. And that is a fun game that is also a fun bit. If people don't realize where we basically give the case of why you can't cut a player. But let's be honest, you can probably cut them. This is actually like, let's just go through and we'll go through what people have listed as their nastiest players on their dynasty bench. And you basically just say without the bit part just like, Hey, you can stash them or trash them. But like, I feel like we're going to get a lot of trash here. Oh, I asked for nasty players. Like, let's, let's see it. Let's see the trash. I do have to bring up as our first one. The other day, I feel like I need just like 21 guns salute like Mike Wright dropped trail ants in our main ballers dynasty week. He finally did. I mean, just when you think you know, guy, just when you think you know a guy, he does this. He said to himself, I I have to have a Mari Di Mercato. I have to have him and finally let go of Traylant. Now if you're in a Super Flex League, be honest. In a Super Flex League, would you keep Traylant? - You could. I mean, it's sick stuff because you're hoping for Justin Herbert injury. - You're a sick individual if you're doing it. - I hope Herbert has an unbelievable season. I hope he's incredible. But could you imagine the scenario where Justin Herbert misses like two months of the year, you know, has a high ankle sprain or whatever, and Mike's like, dude, I've been holding him for four years. This was my chance. Could you imagine? Oh man, Mike, come on, bro. - I almost hate that you brought that up in the ether and the public that Justin Herbert could get hurt, just because of how much I love Justin Herbert. But man, that fear alone in a Super Flex League, we just let me, I would probably just hold on to Traylant. I mean, I'm holding on to like Anthony Richardson. So what's the difference? - Am I right? That's a great point. What is the difference? - All right, let me just listen players. You can listen players too. Will Shipley. - You can cut that guy. - I think you can too. Olli Gordon. I mean, we don't really know who the RB2 is in Miami. - It's, that one's a tough one where you go. I mean, you can keep him if you have the space. I don't like cutting running backs, but it also could be Jalen Wright. And you could be getting the backup on possibly the worst offence league of H&W down. Yes. Possibly might not be strong enough. Likely the worst offence in the league if that happened. All right, give me a couple of names. This one is interesting. Somebody threw out Trade Benson. - Gosh. - I found a trade where I traded away a first round pick Tray Benson and something else to get Jordan Love in a Super Flex. This is like a year ago. - Nice. - Yeah, and it looks great now because Trade Benson feels like nothing, but at the time, it felt like I was giving up a valuable depth piece at running back, but I needed some help at the quarterback position. I think I would, I think I would still hold on. - This is kind of sick of stuff, but I'm just, I'm just thinking through the Cardinals Dept chart. Are they gonna keep, well, maybe obviously they're keeping Jeremy Love. Are they gonna keep Jeremy Love, Tyler Alger, Trade Benson and James Colner? 'Cause if you don't play special teams, which they're not gonna put Alger or Jeremy Love in that role, what's the point of keeping four running backs like that? - Hey. - So if one of those guys is cut, could they be a Jaguar's landing spot? Maybe the Lions had somebody next to Pichekko? - Yeah, I can see. - I'm just dreaming here, Kyle. Come on. - No, I get it. Don't forget that they resigned BAM night for some reason. Just just because-- - I think he does play special teams, actually. - Yeah, and they have Corey Kiner, who's also a special team's guy that somebody mentioned that Corey Kiner is on their dynasty roster. I cannot, I mean, you must have a 50 man roster. - Good help. - Dude, that's some sick stuff there. Corey Kiner can be cut just 'cause, just 'cause, I really have seen this one show up a bunch, but Cooper Cup is like on the fringe for some people. - Yeah, he's, this is like the definition of a roster clogger, right? 'Cause like, let's be honest, if you're starting Cooper Cup on any capacity on a regular basis, your team is probably not very good. But at the same time, by week or injuries and you need a wide receiver three, it's possible he catches four balls and one of them is a touchdown. I don't think it's the craziest thing, but if you wanted to drop him for a rookie that you could dream on, I wouldn't be, I wouldn't hate on that. - I have Cooper Cup on our Diner Junior roster. And I'm-- - And you're a tender with Rico Dada as your RB1. - That's right. Now he's like my wide receiver six, but I've moved him into my flex just to see how it'd feel to have Cooper Cup in the flex. - How it feels. - Not as cool as I thought. 'Cause I was like, man, this guy's gonna, really go off for my team. What about, I'm seeing a lot of the Cowboys Backfield, film off of, Malik Davis, Jaden Blue. Are you just holding on to all three of those guys? - I think I would until we get to camp and kind of figure out what the team thinks of these guys. - All right, what about Isaiah Bond and Cedric Tillman, Brown's wide receivers? Isaiah Bond is kind of interesting. - Right, like-- - You see the headline the other day? - But he's had the most targets. - Well-- - You can't, or whatever. - Do you see what he did to his body? - No. - He added 15 pounds of muscle, which I'm like, how the heck do you do that, brother? - You cannot cut that guy. I mean, he is chiseled now in all seriousness. Like, if they happen to phase Jerry Jodi out or he's a trade candidate, and like they wanna run their three wide receivers set of Denzel Vosten and Casey Concepcion and Bond, it's possible. - Of course, you're thinking about a player that maybe you put your lineup like twice or for the next two seasons. So, if you wanna cut him, you can. But I think he's an interesting hold. Obviously, he's still very young. - All right, hit me with a couple more. - All right, I see Christian Kirk. - I would not cut Christian Kirk, although, if your team is stacked, like he's not like gonna be super valuable. - Okay. - I see Kendra Miller. - You can cut Kendra Miller. What could have been, what could have been, trade-long birx? - Cool. - Let's just put it this way. If you drafted trade-long birx and you just wanna remember what it was like to draft him at probably 104, 105, you can do that. Like, there were people that drafted him ahead of like Garrett Wilson or Chris Olave, which is hilarious to think about now. But now you can cut trade-long birx. - Okay, let's finish with this one. We did talk a lot of Steelers today. Caleb Johnson. - Cool, that's a good one to end on. If I, so people were taking Caleb Johnson at 108, 109 in their rookie drafts, we talked about how that was probably the RJ Harvey Caleb Johnson dilemma of 2025, who could forget? I think with the scheme change, which will bring us back to the very beginning of this episode. There is at least some variables that we can work with to say, I don't fully know what he can be. I think the Rico Dattle with Mike McCarthy connection is probably something that's weighing, but I would not want to cut him. - An honor of Jason. - You can't cut that guy. I mean, come on, it's Caleb Johnson, dude. Hey, fresh start, new coach, who knows? Next year at this time, the answer will probably be definitively yes, but for right now, I'm at least being hopeful. Hold on for one more year. - His UDK blurred starts, "Should we just act like 2025 "never happened at all?" It was just train rap. - He was inactive in seven games and failed to have a single rush attempt gain 10 yards. It was bad. It was incredible. It was historically bad, but I think if you have the space, if not and you want to see him go off never in the UFL, you could do that. - Nothing wrong with the UFL Kyle. Okay, Keem Butler, remember him? Legend in the UFL. - And now he is an NFL contract. - That's right. - So I don't hate it at all. That's gonna do it for this episode of Vince Footballers Dynasty podcast. Make sure you check out all of our rankings for Vince Footballers.com and check out our YouTube. We'll talk to you later. - Goodbye. (upbeat music) - Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty podcast. 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