DWTS Horror Movie Night Deep Dive: Double Elimination + People’s Sexiest Man Alive Revealed

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And like I just need to get like a lot of sixers. I just need to like really dive in on something else. Baseball's over. Like I have some fillies hats, but you know, it's not based. Like it is baseball where World Series are going on. Noah has his 47 brand. I actually just ordered a new 37 Celtics hat. Nice. Nice. Nice. This isn't personally, yeah, they do have some good ones. This is personally my favorite style. Well, 47 brands got to be like the most popular hop company. Yeah, we'll mention the other. No, we're not going to. No, no, no. Actually, they're great hats. But so many of my hats are Eagles hats. And I really also just have a lot of Eagles gear sweaters, sweat shirts, sweat pants, shirts, hats, everything. Jackets. And they're just not going to get, they're just not going to get a lot of use this year. You know, soon we will have chicks in the office. 47 brands. Yes, we're going to. And then I can wear that all the time. Yes. Because this one, and I thought, you know, it's not going to get a lot of use. And when my team is at its lowest, I will still. Yeah, that's when you got to show support. But the sister is wearing this hat despite it's very nice and disaster to watch. Have you been keeping up with the drama between Janet Brown and Jason Tatum? Yes. Have you? Really? Have you seen this? Oh, last night when a friend was talking to me about the Eagles, I was painting Garfield on a pack. Yeah, yeah. So that's where my brain's at right now. That first game in Philly is going to be pretty crazy. Yeah, it is. I also heard about as I was painting Garfield on the pumpkin about the Joe Buck. Troy. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's another big feud going on. And they're announcing together. They're feuding right now. Oh, they're feuding big time because Joe and ESPN did a deal. And they didn't, and they didn't tell Troy about it. Oh, I thought they were both done at the, I thought both their deal. No, they, they wore and they gave Joe a big deal. And then I think basically Troy didn't get a deal yet. And, and then apparently they were like really getting into it like a fight before. And then they had to go on there and like no one knew. But this was like came out. Yeah. So, I totally missed that. But it seemed like Troy was watching the game. Yeah. Professionally. Professionally. It's around the game. They were on the game. You wouldn't know. It's like this show. Like we were just yelling at each other. We were just screaming. The three of us were just screaming our heads up. See, I thought I didn't realize Joe had signed a deal. I thought they're both the, their deals were up at the end of the season. And it was going to be like a big thing around the Super Bowl. Because ABC and ESPN have the Super Bowl this year. That'd be like, ooh, what's happening after? I know. Apparently Joe did something with the ESPN and Troy. A hundred and a million extension. Not bad. Yeah. And Troy didn't know. Wow. He did argument. Yeah. And near confrontation. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I could see Akeman being mad. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. But it seems like after the season. Oh, so it's so, I mean, the drama's even more. So really, it's like, talk about, talk about the Super Bowl being such a big moment for them. It could be their last time. Could be. I said he expected, admitted he expects to part ways. Wow. Yeah. So that could be it. So that was kind of interesting to me. Obviously having no dog in the fight of the game last night. I was just watching those two to see if I sensed any tension. Yeah. They were very professional. You would have never known. That's why they pay one of them the biggest. Yeah. I'm sure Joe Buff was probably the one trying to defuse it. Like, come on. Well, yeah. You're the one that decided that you got a hundred million dollars. Yeah. He's like, Troy, Troy. Troy. Come on. What's the big deal? Come on. Yeah. I bet they'll come to you next. Yeah. Yeah. Just just tell them what I told them. There's a lot of drama with sports and answers. We got that Tom Brady. Yeah. No, I know. I know with Brady. Well, the Victoria Secret stuff. Oh, just personal life. I was like, what's going on with this? The old Tony Romo. Yeah. Tony Romo. Yeah. What's going on with it? The old Tony Romo is that because of his. He got fire. Oh, we got fire after the DIY. That a couple of weeks ago. Like we had a season. They were like, you're not coming back to do the games on. I still never knew what videos were. And videos were real or fake. They were tricky. It was very. It was a lot of speaking of tricky videos. While we're here, I would like to bring up the videos of Tommy Ferry at the amusement park last week. Were those fake or were they real? I have no clue. I only saw one video and that's the one video I sent to you and it was from the sun. So I don't know. Like, would the sun have posted an AI video? I don't know. I almost called you Tommy. No, can you pull up the the. Yeah. So originally I saw this video online and I scrolled quickly past it because I thought it was AI. And then Fran sent it to me and was like, did you see this video? And I was like, wait, I thought that was fake. Is this a real video? And it's seen to have been posted. I don't know. It's posted. It's probably because it's chaos at theme park. He was trying to kiss jigsaw. I see. Yeah. Or is he getting. Like he was drunk. No, he was trying to kiss jigsaw. But look, there was or getting in his face, but right, look, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's up? Yeah. It's even consensual. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. What's going on? It just looked weird all around. It was. And he just looked very drunk, which is not good for somebody that has publicly talked about having a drinking problem. And I think Molly has made it very clear that there was some stipulations to them being back together. Yeah. And it was definitely a big part of his out here kissing jigsaw. The amusement park. Yeah, it doesn't look good. It doesn't look good. Wait, no, I want to go back just because I feel like if people, we may, we may have left people hanging on the Jason Tatum Jalen. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Why don't you just give your synopsis just so we don't leave people that people are going to be like, well, what is the job? Well, I think I quickly forgot. But yeah, what is it? Yeah. Honestly, the quick synopsis would be like, obviously, they played together. They won a championship together. They were teammates for almost 10 years on the Celtics and then they were all the, and then Jason Tatum got hurt last year, he was at all your tours of killings, he was at the whole year. Then Jalen Brown, at the end of the year, they lost to the mix was like, that was my favorite season. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like he won a championship with Jason Tatum and said, that was my favorite year ever playing basketball. Like on, and he's, Jalen Brown is one of these guys like the second of gay men's, he's like live on Twitch. He's a streamer. He's a streamer. And then there was just all this like rumors, but they don't like get along and then they got ready, Jalen Brown, objectively, it seemed like they gave him way for nothing. Yeah, yeah. Like they were like, we just need to get this guy out of here. And then ever since then, he's being like really cryptic or whatever and all these things. And Jason Tatum finally acknowledged being like, hey, I have no beef with him, like in a press conference the other day, like we have such a great history, I wish people would talk about that. So beef, like just want folks on basketball, like love that guy, whatever. And then Jalen Brown was asked about the next day in his own press conference and was so weird and cryptic about it and was like, yeah, we got no beef. We might have mashed potatoes and gravy though. Yeah. And he goes, you know, he's like, he's got a real good PR team over there. So yeah, like it's not beef, but and he said it three different times he goes, you got mashed potatoes and gravy. Is that beef? Yeah, it was really, it's weird, it's a weird dynamic. I don't know if it's just like that classic situation. I feel like sometimes with athletes, they have, when you're always compared to another athlete, you're on the same team, like the one that maybe is considered second, second fiddle has some issues. Like Jalen Brown was always second to Jason Tatum on the team. And I think he like, it might be a little lamb chops and some gravy. Yeah, it might be a little lamb chops and some gravy. What do you mean to just stay ready at all times? I was such a crazy. He's had noted twice. Tatum has a great PR team. Like that didn't seem like a PR thing. Tatum was just like, Hey, like, it just kind of seems like Jason. And he was like, I don't know what the fuck this guy keeps saying. Like it's all fine on my end. Like he needs to, he needs to chill. Yeah, I think the tide is turning on like everyone's kind of being like, I don't know. We don't know what Jalen Brown is talking about. No, we don't know what team is Jalen Brown. He's on the sixers now. LeBron right LeBron's doing great, huh? So far so good. Well, he's like, they're like fourth best player. And you know, that's a great, it's a great starting lineup. But now it's like, you know, they, they don't all play every game. Why don't the three of us go to the six or six game? No, I have no interest in that. I mean, you two can go about a next game. I would gladly had to M.S.C. home of the most world famous arena of the, uh, defeated next now, um, home of the next Harry Styles. Yeah, they go and giggly squad four nights. Yes, pretty happy hanging in the rafters. Yeah, for sure. Got to get that banner up. So, yeah, it's, I mean, because it's huge congrats to that. That is, I'm so hyped for the two of them. That is so cool. That's like John Merrick comes down. He does two shows. Yeah, no, they're doing four nights. And then I saw somebody say that if they do six nights, it would actually be the most spoken word or comedy show ever done because Sebastian did five in a row in a row consecutive nights. So they got it. They got to do. I hate to break it down, but I want them. We need six, we need six. We want to break the record. Fourth one like, yes, instantly. So they could do and I think they could do two more. Yeah, yeah, really it was so bright and they just, they just kept adding. It's so good. Should they try to just do like 26 more in top Harry and top Harry, they should do a residency. Yeah, I'm so happy for them. It's awesome. It is, yeah, it is cool. That is so safe. I've never seen a non sporting or music event. Like I've never seen comedy or I saw Sebastian there. Yeah, I wonder like what it's like in a arena compared to like it. Yeah, I mean, it, uh, basement yard did, oh yeah, basement yard last year, um, sick, so cool. Try to think of, I don't think I have seen it, but it will be epic. Yeah, if you're looking for an intimate show, it'll be a Webster Hall. Yes. And now you're looking for a intimate setting New York City Webster Hall December 10th. Listen, I was, I would have said 1000s a lot of people, but maybe not. Oh, it's awesome. No, it's really incredible. I'm like, I can't wait to see go. We can't get in. We can't get sold out, but I can't wait to see like the pictures and the videos. It's going to be so awesome. I love the teachers they've been doing too. No, I know. Yeah, you know, they can knock Sebastian right off. Yeah, I'm sure they're thinking about it. Maybe, but maybe MSG's already booked and they can't, you know what I mean, right? Right now it's like literally four nights in a row. It is, yes. And I bet you now they're like, okay, now like we have, maybe there's a Rangers camera. Right, like they're okay. We're actually running into like, now we've, now we've hit a bump. Yeah, out of, out of, at a fifth night in a row, for sure. It could be another weekend though, maybe. It could be. Another day, that would be cool. I would like to go, well, the next six years played opening. Get tickets to the Nixon Sixers. Yes, on Banner night. And tickets were 1000s. I would like to see my guy Josh in action. He might, he might, he might, right? Yeah, they're not doing well. Yeah, it's so early. They play some of the games in them. Yeah, but did you see? I think it was only one team has ever. One after going on three or some like weird stat like that to start the season off. Oh, it was like some very niche stat of like the history of teams that started. Oh, and I went three that like only one team has ever. Huh, that is an interesting statistic, but yeah. So anyways, back to the read. Why don't we start talking about, oh, because of my hat. I'm going to get some six shots to throw into the mix too. And also when we get some new hats. But until then, I will show my sports, even though this could be a brown paper bag. What are you going to do now? It's tough, tough, tough to watch Monday night and Filly, you lose like that. Tough to the Cowboys and Barrier's answer and it off five minutes left. Rarely do I do that, but it had to be done in order to save your Monday night. Yeah, you're asleep. Yeah, exactly one all downhill. But no, we're fast approaching Halloween. It's going to be a good rest of the week. Yeah, all right. Let's get into the rest of today's topics. We are talking about Noah Wiley not nominated. He has been appointed. Yes. Sexiest man alive. Jennifer Lawrence announces her new hair care product. G flip and Michelle have split announced on Instagram. We have a dance with the stars or recap. And we've got the popcorn or so and let's get into it. All right. Let's get into the dancing with the stars recap. 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All right, let's get into the dancing with the stars, horror night recap. If you are watching on YouTube, don't mind my funky look right now. I got a shirt in a hat that does not match at all. And really, I just wanted to cover my hair, my bad hair day. It's impossible for you to have a bad hair day. Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. All right. Get into recapping the night, this was spooky Halloween night. I was excited for this. I always love a Halloween night, the theme night, and yeah, there were some, there were some interesting choices being made tonight. Yeah, definitely. But there always is on Halloween night. And I was so excited for this episode also because Shirley Ballas was entering the ballroom. And we know that she is one tough cookie when it comes to giving out scores. Like she tells it how it is. She is tough on ballroom dance. Actually, I saw a few other people say this and I totally agree. I mean, Halloween night always has a bunch of contemporaries and jazz because you can really get so creative like the storytelling and like making something freaky and cool. But when you have Shirley Ballas, the queen of ballroom in the building, it's like how fun what it would have, like it could have been as a viewer. If everyone was doing a ballroom dance and she was just on them. Like she was just like really trying to help them be better and teach them and like actually give genuine ballroom feedback. Because the people who did like in temporary jazz, like things like that. She wasn't as horrid on them when it came to the scores. But the people that were doing like classic ballroom dances or look out because she was not afraid to give out the scores and she started off, it started off strong because Julia Styles won first and she did Nargine Tango and even Ezra in the package was like, look, I'm gonna Amber, like they're doing Architine Tango, like this has got to be crisp, clean, all the things. Shirley's here. She, he seemed like he was definitely pushing her and the dance just didn't work because it felt like she was almost trying to be so intense that it like locked her up and it like became too, like the judges, there wasn't like a lot of fluidity to it. And then it's hard because then you see like Jennid Dewan's or Dine Tango and you're like, well, fuck my life, like yeah, okay. So I thought it was pretty fair that you know, she didn't get the best feedback on this dance. It definitely was not her best dance. No, I agree with that, but when Shirley hit over the four, I was quite excited just because I thought where could this night end up? Where are we headed here? She did like tease a little too, you know, like breaking out the two. There were no twos given out, but that sure would have been just fun to watch. It, it really would have just been so interesting. And I think it maybe if everyone had ballroom, it would have been different, but that, that was tough. And like the whole ballroom went silent. We were, we were not watching live. We had to go home and catch up. However, I think I saw like the first 30 minutes live before I had to leave. I'm like in the bathroom in my robe, like doing my makeup. And I just hear four and I went, I dropped my makeup brush. I went, oh my God, she is not fucking around. No, not at all. And then it was hard because it was followed up by Harry Shum, which was an incredible dance. He got all tens, he killed it. My God was he popping and locking though in the contemporary. I didn't know what contemporary required that. I've, you know, a contemporary is really up for interpretation, which is why I think it is like white, white, the judge, the scores I feel like never really come in to low on a contemporary because it's like, well, you can't really, like the routine is the routine. And you can be like, well, that's the message. And you're like, well, yeah, then that's the right contemporary. I would love to dance at contemporary. I feel like you could just fucking throw your body around and whatever happens happens. You're just like, you just feel, you feel the rhythm in your body. And if somebody feels the rhythm in their body, it is Harry Shum. It is coursing, it is coursing through his veins at all times. Can't do anything but feel the rhythm pumping through his chest at all times, but it was fantastic. It really was. It was such a cool dance. I love Jenna's choreography. I loved that they went back to like the, the heartbeat thing. Like that, so much attention when they did it earlier. And everyone freaked out. And then they kind of like did it again in a different way to end this dance. And I was just like, oh my god, these two. But it was so good. This is Harry's Butter Butter contemporary on Halloween night. It was amazing. He got four tens, totally perfect score. And well-deserved because it was great. There was some clips of, you know, it seems like Carrie Ann's really buried the hatchet with Jenna. And she, there's a video of her in Val sharing a moment and talking very close to one another. And hopefully they're talking it out. Carrie Ann mentioned on Instagram how she would love if there was like, and almost like maybe a refresher course for the pros on like what, what a lift is and assist. What's the difference? When can it be used? When can it be, when it cannot be used? And all the judges and all the pros sort of sit down and talk about it before a season, which is a great idea and they should do that. And Jenna was asked about it after during the press line. And Jenna was like, that's great. I would absolutely love if we could do that because I think that would clear things up for everybody. So they should do that. Tatiana had a pasta doble after this. And this was another one where Shirley came through because she's getting pretty positive feedback. And then Shirley was like, there was nothing about that dance that was possible. And to the naked eye, I'm watching. I'm like, great dance. Wow, look at her, crush this pasta. Everybody else gave her eights, Shirley gave her a four because in Shirley's mind, there was no pasta in there. And you know what helped that dance was the song because that song from sinners is seriously so good. >> So I feel like that helped while watching the dance. Be like, oh, this is a good dance. >> And cool theatrical moment when she pulled that face and he had the exposed like mouth teeth make up on the side of his face, that was sick. >> Yeah, that was really, really cool. I loved the art of this dance, one might say. >> Sure. >> But I don't know about the actual dance itself. I was feeling like Tatiana could have let herself play into it even more. I felt like there were times when she was looking in the camera and there was still a little bit of a smile or like, I'm doing this and we're more like really get into it. >> Yeah, yeah. I'm with you on that. I felt like the eights were a little high. My guess was maybe sevens and then whatever Shirley was going to do, but she, I do just love watching her and Yann's partnership. We talk about that every week. They're so fun. Jenna and Val are back in the ballroom reunited for this Argentine tango that was just un-fucking believable. >> Yeah. >> Like my job was on the floor. Her legs, her hips, the movement was so gorgeous. And call me Derek Huff because I did not see that mistake. Like I, the dance finished and I went tens. And only when they showed the replay like in slow-mo, I was like, oh, fuck, she stepped on her dress. But when I was watching it, I did not catch that at all. >> I'm with you. I think I was just mesmerized by the dance itself. And also they came back with a bang. And they needed to because, you know, Val probably saw everyone being like, wow, Jenna was so great with Alan. >> All right, well, we need to come back hard this week. And they really did. It was incredible. >> Yes. And you know what? I'm going to defend Val a little bit in the, because they're getting, they're getting criticism again for like the end moment when he's like, no, I had her neck. And they were like, why is this going on for so long? They're like, this is going on for way longer that needs to be. I think, and I saw people say this as well. I think he maybe had some sort of like blood, fake blood capsule. Because you kind of see him take something out of his mouth afterwards. So I think maybe it was supposed to like explode on Jenna's neck to look like she really got bit and was like becoming a zombie. And I don't think it worked. And I think that's what happened. >> That would make a ton of sense. Because you're right, everybody, everybody keeps talking about they're like, why was Val knowing that Jenna's neck froze? Be entirely too long. >> Yeah, like really chewing down like this. >> Yeah, no, that would make a ton of sense. That really would have added a whole other element to the end there. That would have been fun. >> Yeah, definitely. And Derek did give her a 10 because he didn't see the mistake. So 10 in my book and everybody else gave it a 9. Just really fantastic. Connor. Connor would yell, son of a gun. >> That was. >> King of contemporary, they're calling him. >> And he and Riley did such a cool contemporary. >> I love this. I think that this was Riley's best choreography of her career. >> Yeah, just everything about it. >> It was such a story. And Connor is really like a great actor. Like I think comedians and people that are on social media and do like skits and jokes and things like that. Like they're so good at it. And it really shown in this dance. I was so impressed by his storytelling. He really took on the character. It felt like they said, felt like watching a mini movie. Like it really was a complete story, which was so cool. >> It really was cool. And I was roped in the entire time because you just wanted to know what happened next in a dance, which is so interesting. So that's how you can tell how great of a job they did storytelling and the choreography and Connor. When he did Subbersol on the couch, I said, oh my God, like I just don't fall off, but he did a really great job. And I was so happy that he did so well, especially in night like this where you can really, and this is what I mean with Connor. He was able to really put himself into this and let himself get into character. And I think that's what makes these theme nights even better. >> Yeah, that's why Halloween night is one of the best because you just really, especially when their every person is sort of a, it's an ode to a scary movie, a horror movie. And you can sort of like do a retelling. And that's when I love contemporary the most because like contemporary to me too is the storytelling is like, what message are you trying to come across and do you deliver? And they did that so well. Karen and Derek gave tens and I thought Connor was going to pass out in the sky box. I was so excited for him, Shirley gave him an eight and Bruno a nine, just great scores. He must be so thrilled to have this sort of like, not even a redemption moment, just like a great character arc like you're just, it's only getting better. >> Yeah, that's a play on the night as well, but yeah, getting an eight from Shirley on this is huge as well. >> Definitely. I also laughed at Derek make, I laughed, I'm sorry, I laughed at Derek making the Jennifer Lawrence joke. I was like, I saw you backstage, you paid me no mind. >> Listen, if Derek is going to make, if one thing's going to happen, it's Derek making a corny joke. Two things are for sure on dates with the stars, Harry, Shum, Poppin and Lockin and Derek Hoff making corny jokes. >> And Derek, yeah, really trying to like see what are the kids saying online these days? >> Yes, exactly. Anything to fit in. >> I am also so chronically online when it comes to the show. And there is, she goes back coach Jackie, she is on TikTok and the dance with the stars recaps that Jackie does are amazing. Jackie has always had this running beef with Derek and Derek has played into it. He comments on the videos, he does all this and Jackie was in the ballroom. So there were so many great videos from behind the scenes that they made together and Jackie always hates when Derek slides in, when Elfonso is talking, so I was like stop doing that. And there was such a funny moment where he did it, but she was right next to him so she could get up. like push him back. So it's like, for the chronically online, there was a lot of good, got a little good moments last night that you were like, damn, you know what, the paid off, watching all these videos. And yeah, that is funny, actually. I didn't know that, but that's very funny. Yeah, it was really good. And the reviews were so fun. Like it really, and even her review from last night was so funny, because she was like, you may think, we squash the beef. But then Derek had to say, point those biscuits and why you have to say that? So it was very, very funny. Ezra was after Connor. I felt so bad because he is clearly in pain. He's dealing with some pain with the, you know, the end of his leg. And God, I can't, like, just looking at it, like it looked so fucking painful, like kind of blistering. And he was like, anytime I put any pressure on it, it's like a sharp pain. I thought, oh my God, good for you for powering through this right now, his, his body is not used to having the prosthetic on so much. I think he, like, he's like, when I'm home, I, you know, I'm chill and I don't have it on. And right now, I'm just working so much, which is so hard. The dance was still obviously so cool. And he'd got an eight and three nines, which was also, you know, they did a jazz, right? Was in contemporary. I think it was a jazz. And you could just always count on Daniela to do great things on Halloween night. Oh, yeah. This, I look forward to Daniela's choreography every single Halloween. Yeah. And the special effects, like, kind of, you know, the visible man making him look like he was appearing, disappearing, very, very, very cool. Um, Jackson, I was in my, I'm also cracking myself up because I wrote down notes as I was watching last night. And you know, we had, we had some drinks. Uh, at the event we were at and I didn't write anything down for Jackson except for not good to go home after contemporary is bad. Oh, well, you, well, you had a point there. You had a point and I just read it back to myself and I went, what the fuck am I talking about? And who am I talking about? I was talking about Jackson. A point was being made that it's got to suck to go home after contemporary, uh, because I think a lot of times maybe you get some of your higher scores on a contemporary, which Jackson did. Two, uh, nine, nine, eight, nine, which is very high. Just one of the banana was growing on me because I actually liked this dance. This dance was really cool. I, I really liked this dance a lot. I thought he did a great job. This makeup fit him well. Um, I, this was the right character for him to play. They were like, all right, smiley pants. We're making you the Joker. Yeah, it was perfect. And I really enjoyed this dance. I did too. And I, the whole time I'm watching him like, this is really good. This is really good. I don't, I, and I felt bad because truly in my mind, I thought, I don't know if this is enough to save him. But he deserves another week after that performance. Like to me, and this is where save would come in. Yes. To me, that was worth another week. Um, and the dedication of the character or the whole thing really, really good. Tyler was next that I, something about like, when you really know the person and then they get into those costumes and you're just like, oh my god, I was having a hard time with that wig. I think it was just bad makeup and hair on him. Like it kind of felt like they just threw it on him and said, yeah, whatever. Like hit, he by far had the worst makeup and hair and costume of the night. Right. Right. And it really wasn't particularly close. It's like, I, it looked like everyone else like they really tried to like really. Yeah. It, you know, make it real. Whereas his, they were like, all right, this is a joke. Like they, like, it looked way more joky than like real costume, if that makes sense. Which I, yes, which I think is unfortunately just because of the movie that they were referencing is just really old. And I think that kind of came into play. It's like looking at that Dracula character and then looking at this, like it is not just, it's just not the best costume period. Like it's so, uh, there's so many, so many other ways to do Dracula. It's like do vampire. But it was because that is what that Dracula character looks like in that movie that came out very long time ago. Yeah. It just wasn't good makeup. It was hard and the wig was terrible. Yeah. And I think it's, it was, it was very hard to be one of the few to do ballroom in front of Shirley ballast because not everyone was doing it. So I think the people that were and then they saw the low scores could have been even more discouraging. He, Dansevanie's waltz. Shirley did say she appreciated the acting. She said she saw the character. Kariah and said she didn't see the character. So they disagreed on, they disagreed on that. Like it was funny because I felt like Shirley was trying to like say something nice. And Kariah just had to be like, well, actually I completely disagree. I don't see the character at all. Yeah. Kariah was like, sorry, your highness. Like, I don't agree. And I was like, Oh, I listen. I, you know, makes for more interesting TV when this should happens. Yeah. Yeah. It was really, Kariah was like, I have to make sure I say I did not like this acting and character. And she, it was almost like, I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight unless I say this. Yeah. Yeah. No, definitely. Um, Tyler was very disappointed with his scores. He's getting some criticism for that as well up in the sky box. I just, I feel bad because Tyler is an athlete. And I think you know, he is. I think you know that like when you perform badly, you lose the game. Like you lose, right? So I think he was like, shit, my scores are bad. Like, I'm out. Like, I'm going to get sent home. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The way that you just said that really made me laugh, though, he is, he's an athlete. Um, no, I mean, I think that the online criticism of how he acted in that moment, um, is an overreaction because people are like a red flag. How does he act at home? And it's like, well, I don't know. Tate's not handing out fives to him. Well, about the tourists he's doing around the house. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Um, he just looked disappointed in himself. Yeah. People are saying he walked off. I don't think he walked off as much as it. Like, he just kind of was over. He like walked off screen. I don't know if he like completely walked. I don't know. But he kind of said he thought like the set, like he thought they were off camera. Like he thought, like, it was over. Yeah. I thought, yeah, it kind of looked like he was just like walking off camera, but not like walking out of this sky box. I just think the discipline was there because he knew he was like, if this, if these scores are bad, I'm going home. Like, that's what we saw. Like I think he was like, I'm sure he built up all week after a dedication night after all the hype. Like, I think he was like, I need to really perform or else I'm screwed. And then I think when he heard the feedback, he was just pissed because he didn't live up to what he wanted to. And it's super normal and okay to be disappointed in yourself. You know what I mean? Um, and I think Sharna knows how much he loves and respects her. And I think he wanted to do right by her as well. Because I see people talking about like, that's so rude to do to Sharna. And it's like, well, you guys, like we don't know their relationship. Like I'm sure Sharna has also been in position where she's been upset with something before. So totally. I think it's quite the jump and overreaction over this. Yeah. What else? Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Definitely. So there are people just always look at myself. I was looking for something at this point. Like, oh, my voice cracked. Sorry. My balls dropped. Um, at this point, I think it was time for for Tyler and Jackson to go. Yeah. Like looking at the rest of the competition, it wasn't like a jaw dropping elimination. Yeah. I mean, I'm not, I, we have more to discuss. I'm not overly impressed with Julia Stiles either. No, sure. And I thought that maybe she could have went. Yeah. Um, but I think those three couple are probably my bottom. Like in terms of dancers. Yeah. I would have thought that maybe Julia would have to win. Yeah. No, I hear you. Um, Amber did a stunning Artisan Tango to the black swan. You got that music. It was theatrical. It was gorgeous. Nine's across the board. Just beautiful stuff. Like she is just surgical with her precision. It's the ice skater and her, you know, and it comes out in all the dances, loved posh's choreography on this. I just rarely have too many notes on Amber because it's really gorgeous every time. Yeah. I think it's we're kind of getting the same thing each week at this point, but that doesn't mean they're bad. They're great dancers. I'm just, I just haven't, I'm not like holy shit because I feel like I've been holy shit since the beginning. Yeah. And that's great. So it's good. She's so good. Yeah. Moira closed the nights. The pressure was on for Mark, you know, getting judged by his mom and all these things. Nothing he's not used to. And surely actually ended up giving them the lowest score of any of the judges. But I really enjoyed this dance. I felt more lean into the character more like become more theatrical. Like she was joking that she really like loved the makeup and like loved being scary and all these things. And she totally leaned into it. I wrote more great actually theatrical. That was my name. I'm with you. I also think great actually theatrical. I thought she was fantastic hauntingly beautiful because she is so gorgeous that I think Derek was saying it like so seductive but scary. And you're just almost staring into her eyes. She already has beautiful eyes, but this whole makeup and the costume. I thought this is one of my favorites that Mora and Mark have done. I really loved this one. Yeah, I agree. I was it's cool to see her do other things and get better at them because it's like we've seen the ballroom stuff and she has been great. And this is seeing her do other things that's really cool and she's getting better, which is always great to see. It was a double elimination. Like we already said Tyler and Jackson went home. I yeah, I could have I agree with you that I thought maybe Julia was going to be in the in the mix here solely on dance. Yeah, I thought Jackson may be saved himself another week with his performance because it was by far the best performance he's done whole season. I agree. I definitely thought this week could have been a Julia and Tyler elimination. Yeah. And Jackson getting by on this week because you're right. This was his best dance. I really, really enjoyed it. I'm bummed for Emma. Yeah. I want Emma to really you know go far. She's so talented. So that ties into it as well. But yeah, now at this point is it's it's real competition that we're getting to. And it's it's going to be tough. And I think the final four is going to be just a husband and wife battle on both ends. Like I I'm seeing a a Val and Jenna verse Pasha and Daniela. Yeah, I could totally see that too. I just hope Ezra is able to make it to that point. Like I hope right. Dealing with any sort of injury or pain doesn't take a toll on him being able to like really compete. That's that's a that's a worry. But at this point like it really is where the competition gets so steep and you're so sad to see anybody go because they have really gotten so good and great performances. Like I'm truly so happy for Tyler. I think he should be so proud of himself for how far he made it and his dedication and the work he's put in and I think seeing Sharna back in the ballroom has been so fun. I'm so glad she's been back. They were like we thought they were such a great partnership. And it's hard because I think you really do you leave and you miss it and it's hard and I'm going to miss watching them and supporting them and rooting for them. But they should really be so proud of everything they did. It was so great. Absolutely. Really should be so proud and obviously you're bummed that you get sent home. But to make it this far is incredible in itself. Next week is Disney night. It'll be on Monday night because of the midterm elections on Tuesday. So Monday night instead. Yep. We'll post some online reactions because we will be traveling for our tour. So there will be no dancing with the stars recap on the podcast next week. Yes, sadly, we are going to miss it, which sucks because I fucking love Disney night. Yeah, maybe we'll we'll just put out some some clips on our own and and some social stuff to get some stuff out there just for be back wise because that they're going to have that Disney night ends at the Arevo is going to be a guest judge, which you know, like it's going to be amazing. I'm so excited for that. And I love Disney night. So I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, cannot wait. And yeah, we will definitely post like social reactions. 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Yeah, it's just immediately jumped just to have it to have it up there because I will say probably at least the last 10 years it's been like cool. And it's usually an older gentleman. Yeah, it's definitely old but no, but someone who's a little more seasoned. Oh, well, last year was Jonathan Bailey. Yeah. Jonathan Bailey was really a good one. Patrick Dempsey. Chris has been talking to me too. I forgot about that one. Paul Rudd. Michael Jordan was. Oh, yeah. That and see. Michael B Jordan is like a yeah. You know, I mean, not like a cool. Oh, look, Michael B Jordan's like a yeah. Yeah, this one is a is your like, yeah, and then yeah, yeah. And then Chris happens is also like a yeah. No, there was a tweet that was like whoever like picks them like they woke up for like a few years and then went back to sleep. Like for like 2018 to 2019 or to 2020, I guess John Legend's like you just out, but that's you just out. Yeah. Yeah. Blake Sheldon was a no. Rock is a no. I think 2015 and on now we're we're like in good territory. Yeah, David Beckham, 2015 is a yeah. Yeah. Cause then there was like a lot of repeats. Chris where is he. Yeah. Despite that. He's not being a great picture. Yeah, that's not really. That's crazy. Chris, I'm sorry. But I mean, that's a while ago. Adam Levine in 2013. Channing Tatum 2012. Like Bradley Cooper was. It's all. Yeah. Ryan Riles. It's taken on. It feels like it's taken on a little bit of a different form where like the nostalgia factor is there. And I think that people also keeps that in mind with their audience. You know, I'm sure they have the demographic and the numbers of who still get in the magazines sent to their door. And they're like, well, let's make sure those ladies are excited about sexiest man alive. Right. I did see some people guessing it was going to be Kyle Chandler. Oh, that would have been a good one too. I think that's a good guess. That would have been a good one too. But no, Wiley more current with pop culture. Yeah. Like right now because of the pit. And and trending up like people are obsessed with him. And they have been for a long time. And I feel like yes, because of the pit and he's winning all the awards and he's at the award shows and he's got his hot wife and all the good all the good stuff where you're like, yeah, that's it's an acceptable choice. Yeah, I'm not you know what I'm saying? Yeah, exactly. But I'm not personally screaming jumping for Joy about Noah Wiley right we're not like it's like yeah, but I know that there are some women out there that are like Oh, yeah, yeah, Wiley I haven't seen those. I've seen only negative I think you're on a negative part of the internet a lot of times All topics like no matter what we're talking about he's always Positive he does not come up on his time. I don't think so. I don't think it is only negative and people I'm actually like oh like all right sure, but the reaction this morning. I was like my god It was like they picked a devil to be Performer it just feels like everything no one is satisfied on the internet these days Everyone has another choice like everyone's like well, why didn't you pick my choice and my choice? Was not Noah Wiley or not Jay-Z and And those people are very loud and then the people Because realistically like I we're not bothered by a Noah Wiley pick, but we're not like immediately retweeting it like Not bothered congrats Like the people that are retweeting are like what the fuck? I'm posting on our Instagram story. I'm indifferent about this. Yeah, you're like congrats. Noah Wiley happy for you Yeah, it's literally good for him, but no, I mean, and I feel the same way about Jay-Z like I'm actually excited for a Jay-Z halftime that is not the opinion that has been widespread across the internet the Responsibility Jay-Z has actually really blown my mind to the point where it has pushed me To being more excited for him because I'm like, well come on guys. What it is Jay-Z like what's I'm just confused at like Does Jay-Z not get the same respect anymore that he's Jay-Z in terms of music? I don't know. Maybe people are just like they want a genre mix up. But last year wasn't genre mix up. Yeah, but if you look at the last There's been two like hip-hop before this in the last It's been like every other year for the last five years. Maybe is that is that possible? Well, it was the the LA one Kendrick and then Kendrick, but I don't think before that was there ever or another rap half time That I don't think I can remember I think we need to see a less because I'm not 100% sure, but we didn't even remember Justin We didn't remember Justin Timberlake and a man am I still holding out? Hope that he comes out now. Yeah so bad bunny Kendrick Lamar Usher Rihanna. Yeah Talked to that was the LA one the weekend But before that it was like yeah, no before that. I mean five. Just like lady got got cold plate Katie Perry Bruno Mars Yeah, I'll say can you also tell me when Jay-Z took over running 2019? I believe that you have time show. Yeah 2019 2019 so Realistically if you were to look at the ones that he has done There has definitely been more hip-hop in rap since he's been doing it 2019 more hip-hop, you know, yeah But I feel like the weekend of Rihanna and Usher are all people that could have done it at any point. It's definitely definitely Kendrick Kendrick had such a big year. I don't even like Think that was that crazy even though I think that's still the most highly watched half-time show of all time Kendrick Kendrick's Yeah, hmm. Yeah, that was a massive year for Kendrick I I'm excited about Jay-Z. I really don't care what anyone says. I'm I'm More so on that side of like because now so it seems so many people are complaining about it that I I'm like well I never like what is Jay-Z need a little on me to fit you know, I'm like give him a chance Right like It's the chicks in the office to get on him. Be like billion You guys have all made me go to the side of like come on everyone Let's give Jay-Z a chance. Is it really that bad? I feel like you guys are more telling me about the reaction No more than I couldn't believe every single graphic on every single Instagram post that went up like whether it was R's or e-news or people are like any pop culture news source posting like Jay-Z confirms Half-time show it was like boo all the commas were like tomato tomato boo. No one wants this It was crazy. You know what I want this. I I want this Nobody wants this season four which is just real wants this But I mean that's impressive. I'm looking at the top half-time shows Kendrick Lamar is number one above Michael Jackson Wow, and then it goes Michael Jackson usher bad bunny Rihanna That's sick Well Michael Jackson in 1993 That's kind of yeah, that's crazy He was so he what you said Kendrick oh We're talking about Michael Jackson. No, no, I was I was not at the Michael Jackson Your mom's no stomach nope Yeah, technically, but no, no she wasn't pregnant with you yet. Yeah. She got pregnant in December It would have been February 93. I'm thinking February 94. Yeah. Yeah How's that one? I remember I remember a Michael tick that giant My mom wasn't and my mom wasn't very there. No, I was like Paul McCartney say he remembers being born It's like me. What's that's what is your first memory? Um, I don't fully know because my first memory that I can really think back to is Off the top of my head the one the first one that came to my brain um I had a disease called HSP when I was three years old and It was Christmas eve and I couldn't walk So me my cousins played doctor and I was the patient I guess that's If you had that's a haunting first memory a lot of my first memories are from when I was yeah sick. Yeah Um, because it went on way longer than it would have if the doctors could figure out what was wrong with me right right But they thought I had leukemia Because they couldn't figure out what was wrong with me so it lasted way longer and I was in the hospital every week And I was put on like very heavy like Saroid medication and would wake up in the middle night with with night terrors Screaming my head off and so my siblings were actually afraid of me. Yeah And that kind of like makes sense as to why they wanted nothing to do with me for a little bit They may have thought they had like the exercises. Yeah, it wasn't an exercise situation at all I just might was having a reaction to my having night terrors. Yeah, that's so that's my first memories really Well, I don't really know how like Like I think Up and like what I actually remember versus what I have Pictures and videos of yeah, because the videos I'm like Oh, yeah, I remember that but like actually having A memory weirdly enough. I do have I have a very vivid memory of being in the cafeteria at a summer camp Before kindergarten so I was like four mm-hmm and I was with two other girls and I remember like the um Italian Isis that we got a camp and the chocolate milk In the cartons. Yeah, hell yeah, and that was like part of our treats at camp. Mm-hmm And then I remember yeah, that's like that's I actually can I actually can visualize that and you can almost taste it Yes, I can visualize it and see it um And yeah, that's probably that's got to be probably one of the earliest For anything before that I think is Is gone mm-hmm besides like I have seen videos and stuff. Yeah, I've seen videos of my first birthday party But I don't remember it. Yeah, right. I've like seen videos of like my baptism party. Yeah, but it's not there No, it is not like I'm like I can't hear the The tools as I'm being pulled out of my mother It's like pomegranate was like I could hear like I can hear like the the What do they call it like the four sets? No, that's crazy pull me out. That's crazy Well, maybe that's why he's so talented because like right. He's just some magical here. There's some special gift It says the average age for a person's earliest memory is traditionally estimated at three to three and a half years old The newer research success some might actually go to two and a half years old. Yeah, that makes sense That definitely makes sense. It's around there. It's like we're at all. We're all we're all comes back to you Mm-hmm. So Yeah, but Take me back to me before yeah, not me. I was sick. Yeah I'd my my whole my whole from head to toe. I was covered in bruises The pictures are and videos are it's kind of sad actually. I've seen some of those pictures. They're sad Look at you know Baby look at how much you overcome. Yeah, when my I had like really bad sensory issues And my parents always used to blame this disease. And I was like, I don't think, I don't know if that's the reason why. Like when I like couldn't touch napkins or throw pillows, like I genuinely like, they were like, it had to have been 'cause you had this. - Feels like it's a pretty good default to throw that out of for anything. - They're like, 'cause it's also one that is not, I don't like, I don't know, one that's common knowledge. - And if you book out. - So you could really throw out some symptoms of that and people will be like, what the hell is that? - I was like, they don't know. - Because also if you look it up, like it'll tell you like it's gone in three weeks and like whatever, but mine lasted for like a full year because they couldn't figure out what was wrong. And also, almost like a misdiagnosis. - Yeah, they were just like, yeah, my parents were like, we. - I mean it wasn't misdiagnosis. - They were like told we, you have leukemia, we went home, we were like, we're, you know, it was very sad. But I'm crazy pivot, but it does, you know, like you're just trying to advocate not having an ass. - Yes. - Oh my God, we didn't talk about this. - It is so crazy. - So crazy. I feel so bad for her. - That is so awful. If you guys didn't see this, Christina Applegate has been public about her battle with MS for, I mean, it's been a long time, I feel like at least. - Yeah. - 60 years maybe? - Maybe, I was gonna say somewhere. And she's been doing a podcast with James Siggler who has MS as well. And she revealed that- - Oh, that's a good podcast name. - Yes. - Messy, but it's like MS. - Yeah. - But revealed that she has been misdiagnosed. And it wasn't, it's not MS. - I feel so bad for her because she was told and they were like, congrats, you don't have MS. And she was like, I didn't take that as like a good thing because I now don't know what's wrong with me. And then also feeling guilt that she feels like she has presented herself as a poster trial of MS with Jamie Lynn but actually doesn't have it. And she feels guilty. - Messy, it's so conflicting. - It's so hard to deal with that, it's so bad. - You probably have related to so many other people and have had discussions with so many people about- - Right. - And it's not her fault about it. - Yeah. - That she must feel guilt, but it's not her fault. - It's not her fault at all, so it's terrible. - It's so sad and I was- - It's so scary. - Really hope they figure out what's wrong with her because she's having all these terrible issues and she could barely walk at certain points and she was in the hospital for a while and that's how they figured it out. So- - It was an MS, which is crazy. - Really, really crazy. Well anyways, what's your first memory? - It's hard, I feel like I have flashes like in my head. - Yeah, yeah. - Like I remember certain things. I remember in elementary school like the last day of school everyone would sit on like, you know like if you stand up on it and then you sit on the top of the seat. - Yeah. - And like everyone would be like like the last day of school like out the window. But I guess how old was that? - Seven. - I mean, that's kind of what it was. That's kind of what it was like. - Yeah, definitely elementary school. I remember things pretty clearly. But I think I remember like moments from even earlier, like it must have been like- - Like now I think about my nephew and I'm like- - Isn't it crazy that you're like, he's not gonna remember any of that? - Well, now he's a little over two and a half. So I'm like- - So now it starts. - Is he, yeah, I think he'll remember certain things which would be awesome if he can look back and be like, "Oh, I mean, I really did this." - Well, I think he's probably made a moment so like- - Well, if it's like more of a general like, he remembers like, "Oh, I like her." Like I trust her. But he's not gonna be like, "Remember when we did that thing, like a couple of years ago, you know?" - Yeah, like, right. Like I'm gonna have to tell him about the memories. - Yeah. - That I have to make. - It's like the first day. You should play a movie of like, everything you've done for it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah. I have memories of like our school holiday concert. Like we did a holiday concert before Christmas and the younger grades would always sing holiday lights, which I don't know if that was in other areas or if this is a very niche reference, but we would all have flashlights and they'd put like a colored film on the top of the flashlights so people had different colors. And then we'd all stand up on the bleachers and he's saying holiday lights, shine and so bright. Oh, what a sight this joyous season. And then you up, down, up, down. And our music teacher, you always get so bad, Matt, 'cause we would sing the up and down and up and down. She was like, yeah, I'm supposed to sing that, but we always sang that part too. That's really in my hands. - That is really great. - And like we did that starting in kindergarten. - Yeah, I remember holiday shows like that, but not that specific song. - Yeah, I've never really heard that song. - No. - Brought up in other places. So I don't know if that has any reach. - No. - I remember being dressed as like a cutie little snow angel at one point. - Yeah, cute. - I remember I played the monkey in our like, I don't even know what you would call it theater. Like we were all like animals. Like, for whatever we were putting on, that was the monkey. - That's like in love actually when, when I'm a Thomas's kids, like, I'm the, what is it, lobster? Something like that. - Yeah. - Kind of crustacean. - And he's like, I didn't know there was a lobster. - He's like, there's a lobster. - Oh yeah. - Yeah. - What a good movie. - Yeah, yeah, that's a classic. 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Your guess is as good as mine. It's spelled M-E-S. I'm assuming a play on-- Mass? Mass. Mass-C hair. Yep. Now, I mean, listen, if we're being honest, like, it just is Jennifer Lawrence, so you just don't want to say anything bad. No, and-- Because she seems so funny and I want-- Well, I like her a lot. Yeah, I love her. And like, she seems to be giving everybody attention these days. I mean, she commented on pages post. She commented on Connor Wood. Like, who knows? Who knows? Say something. I don't know. Well, what I think we don't have anything to say right now. What do you walk by her? And you didn't know? Well, it's she would have walked by us. And she noticed that she walked by-- She walked by. She knew Connor. Never just objectively way cooler than if we walked by her. Maybe she knows you and she walked by you, and you would go-- No, yeah. You never know, but I'm going to have to wait and see what this product's all about. Because I didn't know that she was so passionate about hair care. And so I'm interested to learn more. I didn't either, but you know what? She is someone that has great hair, in my opinion. And it's sort of like she does that-- [BLANK_AUDIO] when she does that kind of like Blake Lively. Look, she has better hair than Blake Lively. - You think? People think Blake Lively, objectively Blake Lively has great hair. Personally, I think Blake Lively just looks like she does in brush her hair. - I think she does. - I think she does her hair. Like when Blake Lively and does the full Hollywood glamour, she's got great hair. She prefers a messy look for certain times, but when it's done, it's pretty good. It's pretty good hair. - Yeah. - I don't know about a bangs person, to be honest. This picture. - I think for Lawrence has great hair. - She does have great hair. - I have never been, I understand that people think Blake Lively has great hair. I have personally never thought like, wow, Blake Lively's hair. - Hmm, really? - Yeah. That's, hey, you know, when your hair looks like yours. - No, I'm not being picky because of my own hair at all. I just, and I'm not even just trying, I'm not trying to pile on Blake Lively. Like, this isn't what this is about. - No. - And I'm not even trying to compare these two hair, but if I'm looking at a picture of Jennifer Lawrence's hair next to Blake Lively's hair, like, Blake Lively's hair is better. - I guess I haven't really seen-- - She put up a poll. - No. - No, why don't I compare their hair? - No. - That's not nice to compare. - I just go back to Blake, I'm looking at Blake Lively. I just like, she has a lot of hair. - Yes. - I think that's just where it, like, she has a lot of hair. - To me, having great hair also means having a lot of hair. - Yeah, she has a lot of hair. - As someone who doesn't have a lot of hair, I look at stars and think they have a lot of hair. - She has a lot of hair and it could be great. - Yeah. - She has a potential. - She has, but I think she is potential to have great hair. - And a lot of times it is great. - Like, she just does that. - Sometimes I just don't like the way she styles it. - The tassled look. Jennifer Lawrence's hair care line is called MASS and it is pronounced MASS, just by being spelled M-E-S. - Can we see pictures of Jennifer Lawrence's hair? - And it launches with a trio of products, a repair mask, a volume missed, and a re-styling serum. - Jennifer Lawrence has a very beautiful hair too. - She's got nice hair. - She always has beautiful hair. - No, she knows. It looks like an every picture. - This one right there that is new. - Why are you so upset about that? - No, I just didn't realize that. - I feel like she's-- - Oh my God. - She has a bang. - Has she always had a bang? (laughing) - Oh no, yeah, there you go. - Yeah, she has nice hair. - So this is from a Yahoo article. If Lawrence's foreign to beauty feels like it came from LaField, that's understandable. The Oscar-winning actress has never been the type to share her beauty, Holy Grails, the way Healey Bieber did before launching Road. And Lawrence only just joined Instagram in September. Now obviously that makes a whole lot of sense on why she finally joined Instagram. Plus, unlike Blake Lively, funny to imagine Blake Lively, she's ever made her hair her signature. But when you think about it, a hair brand makes sense. She does have some pretty luscious locks that she does. And over the years, she's been blonde, blonde, brunette, platinum. She even sported a famous pixie cut though that big chop might have not entirely been her call. That was when she had to cut her hair for hunger games. According to a press release, Messes is inspired by Lawrence's year spent in glam and the time and effort that go into maintaining great hair. The guiding philosophy is what the brand calls unbothered beauty. An approach built on multitasking formulas that work smarter last longer and give people their time back. So I guess it's sort of a play on like, hey, you want your hair to look great, but you don't have to use 18,000 products. Here's three that have multiple different uses. That'll help you have great hair. I'm guessing that that's sort of where the messaging is. We got a repair mask, a serum, and a mist. The mist is $34. Searms $44 and the mask is $52. So how does that compare to normal? I would say it's definitely like in the range of a, like a mid-range hair brand. Like something that I would, I feel like what I'm looking for stuff at Sephora, they're comparable prices. Probably mid to high, because no, definitely mid to high. You know, that's pretty pricey for a volume mist. And a, but if you're looking for, you know, yeah. Like I'm just thinking of some of the stuff that I use from some of the brands that I really love. And you're like, my way Leven Conditioner is I think around $33. Yeah, and that is priceier. Yeah, for sure. Leven Conditioner. Yeah. That stuff smells so good. The way stuff that does smell really good. I really like the overnight repair serum from Crown Affair. I use that and that's $58. Yeah, and that's like a good night, you know. And if you're, 'cause then if you go into like the carostasis and all that, that's expensive, that's high. Yeah. So this is definitely somewhere in the mid to high. Mid to high, in the mid to high range. For someone who really like, I just didn't think that this is a path. She would have, like if you would get, told me six months ago, I think I'd pick Jennifer Lawrence as like last of someone who would release a celebrity, yeah, beauty brand of some sorts. For sure. Yeah, but she did decide to partner with her name is Jezmina Igonovic. Igonovic. She's the founder and CEO of Biotech Beauty Company, Arkea. If you're familiar with Future Society, that's her brand, Future Society is already, is a brand that she wears, and I actually just heard about Future Society recently. So they're seeing how that will translate to a hair care line. She's saying she's not doing it to get rich. This wouldn't be a smart move. If her only goal was to get rich. Yeah, I think that's pretty fair in a space that feels. She said a smarter exit plan would be signing up for a big franchise. Yeah, true. She's not wrong about that. Which she kind of was in a big franchise, you know, and it's still growing. But it's saying like if she right now in her career, she wanted to just make bang on something. She could just do a superhero movie and not a hair product and then call it a day. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. Well, I'm interested. Definitely will check it out. And packaging, she's passionate about it. The packaging is cute. She's going on a card, Addy. Yeah. Oh, is she? I couldn't tell that was her or I mean, I couldn't help her. But I thought maybe it was going to be a mechanic race. Oh, right. It was like a noun set as her. I don't know. I saw that it was announced, but it wasn't called her daddy announcing it, but it was like Jennifer Lawrence. It's like the pop craves of the world. We're like, Jennifer Lawrence is going on a card, Addy. But it was like the bow and arrow thing. I feel like that was pretty. No, that was clear. I just thought maybe that like it was like a, ooh, hype up to people think it's Jennifer Lawrence, but there's a whole new Hunger Games movie coming out, you know? Right, then it's somebody else. But with her hair product launching, I guess that would make sense. That would absolutely make sense. Well, love Jennifer Lawrence. And I'm rooting, rooting for this hair product to be great. Totally. I wonder if we'll have some new hair products. I'm intrigued by the volume missed because my God, am I always looking for some extra volume? Yeah, volume miss is actually not something I've ever really heard of. Yeah, that's something that feels unique to me and something that I would actually try. Yeah, she said she wanted volume that felt soft and touchable, but also lasted longer than a day. So rather than piling on hold, this mist targets would actually deflate your roots oil build up. Still, it isn't your typical dry shampoo, root lifting styling agents paired with the brand's ARC5 technology and Mediterranean micro algae to keep excess oil in check. In check, that sounds like something I could use. So maybe, I'll do it a little test. Maybe, I do love trying new things. We shall find out. Last topic, this was announced on Instagram yesterday. Creshell put out a video and she was tearful. Yeah. And she began to explain that her and G-Flip have called it quits. Yeah. And they've been together for four years. And that's it. And it kind of seemed like from the video that this was G-Flip ending in not Creshell. 'Cause Creshell was like I am in love with G-Flip. Yeah. But at the same time, I don't know. Like the way she was also talking is just like sometimes things just aren't meant to sometimes what you think is gonna last forever, doesn't. That doesn't mean it's necessarily like a bad time of your life. You know, it's like you're gonna appreciate the time. Oh, I took it as she's trying to convince herself that she's gonna be okay in that G-Flip I made it with her. Damn. And it was interesting that she did a full like video. And G-Flip just like that. Like did a two sentence thing on Instagram. And Creshell did say that she was like this feels deeper to me than just you know putting up an Instagram story that we broke up or something that she wanted to hear it. Yeah. From her also kind of sounded like a public facing couple is not a relationship is not something that she would ever want to do again. Mm-hmm. It was very sad because she put up the video and there was like no caption, no nothing. So you really had to play it to hear. What what she was saying. And I just had initially saw the comments of people being like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. And just hope, you know, hope she's okay and all these things. And that that made me so sad because I see another one that I thought they seemed pretty solid. Yeah. And Creshell seems from what I see people say. like, uh, just to really. sweet him being. Yeah, we've never met her. I think we have. He's been passing. I want to say maybe it like a people's choice. I think we have. We did have her ex-husband on just a long time ago. Long time ago. That was pre-selling Sunset, it was even on TV, I think. Yeah, I wasn't yet. Yeah. But I did feel bad watching that video. She seemed very, very upset. And I had the same thought too because I feel like there's so many people that we know that we're flooding her comments with just like how much they love her and what the best of her. And that makes me feel same because I trust that those people all feel that way. Yeah. So I thought that's awful. That's so sad. And it's just that seems like maybe a breakup that came out of left field. There could have been so many reasons. So we don't and we really don't know. But I had to make kind of hard because I bet I feel chief lip likes to spend a lot of time in Australia. Yeah, I don't really. I wasn't. I didn't know like really the ins and outs of their relationship too well. Yeah. Yeah, just seemed like from the outside. But that's how it always seems. Yeah. It seemed like I if I had to make a guess that this wasn't Michelle's doing just from what I took. I could definitely see that. Yeah. All right, that wraps up the topics. Sometimes choosing what to watch is less about what you want to watch and more about what mood are we in? Maybe you want to laugh until you cry. Maybe you want edge of your seat drama. Maybe you want to escape reality entirely. And I love that Amazon Prime lets you follow the feeling beyond the screen. You could find the shows, movies and sports that give you exactly the vibe you're craving on Prime video. I just want something I can get completely lost in. And I'm definitely ordering some popcorn because that's part of the experience. I've been watching drama on Prime and it's been perfect. And obviously I'm ordering snacks go with it. Because when you're curating your night, you shouldn't have to settle for just watching the feeling. You can actually live it. All right, let's get into the popcorner. We're taking your hot takes your voicemails your opinions. Noah, play the first voice now. Hey, chef. I know you guys definitely heard about this. But the news show on who called the mob coming out. The cast is incredible. I can't wait for especially our our Gordon Xavier Joe July to be on that show. And then we have Maria from the bachelor's franchise. We have Demi. There's a bunch of other notable people in it, but as long as you guys have seen it, I just thought it was a pretty good time. I immediately have to give you guys a call. That was a very funny looking and very predictable for us to say, Joe, Judas to be on in the best way. Gorgas. I love you too. Imagine they were like, all right, Joe, you're you're free to go on the mob. Yeah. And it's like, well, they do film, they did film in Italy. So he could be there. He could go on to the mom. But no, Joe, Joe, Gorgas, which is confusing is it's like they're treason, Joe, right, sister, brother, sister, Judas, but haven't watched the mob yet. But we will definitely definitely going to tune in. I think there's only one episode out right now. Yeah. And it just came out this week. So I'm really excited to see it. The cast is great. And I think that if they do it right, it could be, you know, traders ask, because I think that's the whole that was the whole point. Right. Anyway, I'm doing a show like this and Parker Posey hosting it is so fun. Yeah. Yeah. So fun. And they really did find like a very, it was it's a good cast the characters for sure. A lot of Italians. Yes. Which I said should, you know, you know, it should be, there's just a should be a prerequisite that it's like X amount of Italians and then they find out if they're going to, if they're going to film it in Italy and like do the whole thing and the mob and the whole thing, like you got to get some Italian pass it to the Italians. So we will, we will definitely be tuning in. I am excited to see this just haven't watched yet. Yeah. But we will, because I think it's also week to week. So yeah, did you see that Indie Cohen was asked if he would ever do traders? And he was like, no, I would get voted off immediately. I feel like he would be fun to be on traders. I don't know why he would be voted off immediately. Probably just because he is like a big name. I don't know about that. I just think he's close to like all the house. And maybe because I think what, the people that know just because he works like in the business, he would know every, I think he would know like who everybody is. You might want to keep production. Yeah, but you might want to keep him around then. Yeah. Like if he can read people because I feel like Andy can read people. Yeah. Yeah. Hi guys. Hi, Ria Noah and Fran. This is Tammy from Chicago and my hot take is that I miss the original survivor, the OG survivor. Like back when they would let them go into cardiac arrest. Back when they would drop them in the middle of like China, a field in China, and they would just have like twigs to build a shelter. I miss when I was in my head. They used to be there for 39 days. And now it's 22. That's not even a fucking month. It used to be over a month. These people are winps. They're door. I can't. I like when they have to sit in the rain. A conventional downpour for like 30 days, right? That when people had to survive on survivor, I think we should bring it back. I think we need to stop light. Come on. Thank you. That's my take. I hope you guys have a great day. And I love you show. I love her. She's a Sarah. So funny. Bring back surviving on survivor. That seems to be what she thinks. Here's the thing. It is still very hard to survive on that island. Yeah. In the way that they're playing. I didn't know that they cut it down by so many days. They did. They cut it down. Was the cardiac arresting true? I can't remember like a specific moment. I might be blanking, but like there are many times where people had to like leave because they got hurt or medical or medical. But they wouldn't make them stay. Yeah. They took them off the island. Yeah. I'm sure you always have that option. There's always an option to leave if you really want. This says I just looked at it. It says no one has suffered cardiac. Oh, on the US version. I guess on on different. Yeah, but there have been times where people have had to leave because of injuries on the French version. Oh, yeah. Like shit. That's what you want to bring back. Yeah. Like I was like, oh, okay. And then I was like, no, no, no, we don't want anyone getting it seriously ill or hurt. So they obviously got to remember they want to keep doing the show. So that happens. The show's over. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, I don't have a strong opinion on this. Like, yeah. Would you ever do it or no? No. I've been asked and not by survivor. I have been asked. You have? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I wouldn't because of the elements. I have no interest. But you would want it. But it's like, I'm saying because like you would do traders, but you wouldn't do. Yes. Yeah. Because of the elements earthwinden fire. I would not want to be out there trying to survive. No. I have heard that it is really fun and have been told from somebody who did it. Like no, you you should. But I still don't have interest. She can't sleep without a heating bath. That's not true. All right. The elements would be hard. I need a fan. Yeah. Like the I would also never do a survivor. Not in a second. Like that, I have zero interest zero and even spending five seconds in a place where it could be raining on me and I'm out in the open. But you're either a survivor of special forces. Survivor. Special forces. Really? That's like going out of your way to put yourself in uncomfortable situations, I feel like. Because like survivor, you could be the person who kind of just hangs back. And this isn't a good method. But you could be the person that hangs back and lets everyone else like build the shelter or whatever. You'll probably get voted off pretty soon. But you could go with that method. The special forces you actually have to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And and survivors like a game. Like you know, the challenges you do, you're like doing a game. You know, wow, you win. There's a way more of a mental aspect to your survivor. I'm like, a special force is like you're just pushing yourself to limits. Also, special forces. You can stay on the show and fail every mission. Like you cannot, like you don't necessarily like you could be bad at every single thing that you do. But not leave. I would much prefer to do so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think I would still do special forces. I do sometimes think about like the camaraderie that would come with being on the survivor. Like right? It's yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is true. I've just like, we're all on sleep outside together. But then when it becomes a when it when it becomes like a single person game. Yeah. And you're not on team anymore. And then you're literally. All right. Next one. Okay. So this is not pop culture related. But one thing I never have understood is when you're you have reservations and they won't see you at the full parties there. Like do missing out on opportunity to actually earn more money. Like I'm on waiting for a friend to show up. I'm gonna be drinking. I'm gonna be ordering a martini glass of wine, maybe a bottle of wine, and like most likely that friend is gonna show up. We're gonna have the full party. We're even at the person didn't come and say, "Oh, hey, this is our full party now. They're still gonna see you." So, like, it's so bizarre. I mean, and also, like, if you're in a small restaurant, like, then you're just crowding the space. And, and I've just never understood it. And I'm always polite in time. I'm like, "Okay, well, wait, but also, I mean, it feverishly takes the friend. Like, where are you?" But, yeah, it's just it's very strange. I don't know why they do that. So, in granted, I've never worked in a restaurant, and I'm old now. But, yeah, so maybe someone can like me if they do have restaurant experience, but I just, I truly don't get it. Okay, you guys are awesome. Bye. I'm with you. You know, I, I wonder what, I don't know what the full reasoning of that is. It's like just that the meal. Here's things. I think it's also a lot easier for the people at the restaurant to manage the tables whenever, when things are ordered at the same time. Like, yeah, I do understand the drinks logic, but let's say you sit down at your table, you're waiting for two people. They're really late. You decide to order food. But then, like, now all the foods coming out at different times, because then when the new people come in, they're also ordering food. So, maybe like from that standpoint, yeah, I don't really get it either. And I'm with you. You actually bring up a solid point. Like, yeah, when there are times that I am seated at the table, waiting for someone to show up, I do order it for sure. Yeah. For sure. And like, but if you're waiting, you probably go to the bar anyway. Like, before you're seated, you're like, all right, I'll have it turned to the bar. But now, if there's a lot, if there's no room, you're kind of just standing, that kind of becomes like an inconvenience. I did see a very funny, my friend sent it. That was very funny, like a TikTok of what it's like now trying to like eat at restaurants in. I'm not going to be able to find it now, obviously, to eat at restaurants in New York City. It's just like you walk into a restaurant and they're like, oh, like you could sit at the bar, but there's actually no bar. It's like it's just like, you know, yeah, that's, oh, I found it. Hold on. Yeah, we don't really accept reservations. We don't really accept walk-ins. You're not going to ever be able to eat here. You can't really see a party of five in this building ever at all. You can call ahead and in three weeks, we still won't be able to see your party of five. Yeah, we might have two or three about 20 to 30 minutes. It will be occupied with a party, but you're more than welcome just kind of sitting there, and snack off their plates, like a little ratwood. If they found like a pile of garbage outside, and yeah, the bar is first come for serve, there's no bar. So you won't be able to do that. This is so so. This guy David made this video for some POV. You're trying to dine out near so many New York City restaurants. That couldn't be more accurate these days. No, really. It's quite impossible to walk in anywhere. It's you the the the spontaneous like walk around and let's stumble into a restaurant. Quite literally is impossible now in New York City. It is and we must sound so annoying when we're talking about like going out to dinner and having reservations to this place. That place, but you literally can't you there. Yes, there are mind you. There are definitely restaurants that you can walk into and grab a seat. Yeah. But there's a Saturday night now on a Saturday night for a restaurant that is not even like a want to say like a high profile like everyone's waiting about it. It is still extremely hard. It's really hard. And then the ones that like do everyone wants to try because you're so excited about new restaurants in New York City. They make it really really hard to get into. It's like it's and then it isn't and you walk in the whole, you know, you need the whole party. Yeah, they said time. If you're there for one more minute over your set hour and a half like they're rushing you out of there. Yeah, it's like really they're shuffling and you in and out of those places. Yeah. Yeah. But they are very good. So it's hard. Yep. Yep. Yep. All right. Let's see one more. Hi, Ryan Fran, a big fan of the show. I'm just wondering your thoughts on the new fourth-wing casting and Millio and Esther. I've seen a lot of discourse. People saying they love it. People saying they hate it. I personally don't really understand why people are so up in arms. I think they're both cast great, but would want to hear what you guys think. Thank you. I love it. I think it's an awesome casting. I think that the like book talk world has been kind of ruined by the amount of like AI casting that's done and they draw up these visions of these characters that just don't exist. Like they make them so unrealistic. Like just this literally like an AI man that you're like, well, that that person isn't a real person. Like why are we comparing this guy who's a real human to this picture that people are drawn up in their in their minds? It's not a real person. Like we're not going to get we're not going to get close to that. And my god, do we get pretty damn close because this guy's a smoke show. He's so hot. So I don't know what I don't know what people were getting all riled up. And it's like the littlest things they get upset about. They're like looking up, looking up their heights and being like, well, he's not tall enough. Like in the book, it's just she's looking up at him. Like he's not going to be tall enough. Let's let's think of a little movie magic guys. Like we've made some pretty short men in Hollywood look tall for a very long time. They'll figure it out. Like they'll make it work where where it'll the the like they'll figure it all out and they'll look good. And I really do like the casting and then the girl who she's also Esther was in. Fuck what's the prime show we really liked? We were liars. Oh, we were liars. We were liars. Really good in that. I think she's great. I think you know, you got to you got to hold the vision. She was so good and we were liars. So I could totally see it. So I like it. I don't find the need to complain. Like you're just never going to please everyone when it comes to those like fantasy world castings because people have these visions that are just not real people. So it's that's it's just not going to be attainable. Right. Yeah. I don't know anything about the characters. So trusting your opinion on this. Yeah. Yeah. This will be big when this is all coming out and such. All right. 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