30: Dumbest Teens Ever Laugh at Attempted Murder Charges | Isabelle Valdez & Lois Lippert

How are you going to be in the same one? What do you mean the same one? Same Joe? Yeah. Yeah! Okay, I was in touch with you. I am fine. Is this such a bonding experience? I love this! I think, uh, in my dreams, he told me that he wanted me to kill him. So I think it's only fair. I don't care that he's fine. I don't care if he's with you. I don't know how you would let him go. I want to see how I'm f***ing here. Wait, I did a 6-7 of my homework. 6-7? Joe, I need to fart. Hey everybody. So the case that we're going to be talking about today is one that I knew that I needed to jump on here, share with you, talk through it with you, try to make sense of it, and just figure out what the heck is going on. It is like nothing we've ever seen before. There are some similarities to other cases that we've covered. Cases like Skylar Nice, the Slenderman Stabbings, and very disturbing cases like that. I mean, think very disturbed teenage girls and murderous teens. And that's the route it goes down. But with this case, it really is the newly released body cam footage that makes it so not only unique, but chilling. Wait, do I do a 4? No, they're going to go this way. Now that short video clip that you just saw, without any context, it's enough to confuse anybody, right? If I had no idea about the case that we're talking about today, I would probably see that clip and think, oh, those two knew someone who maybe was a cop. He'd let them in the back of their squad car for a few minutes. They seemed like they're having the time of their life, being like, oh my gosh, this is such a bonding experience. I can't believe we get to go in this ride along. However, I actually know the context of this case. And I know that that is not what that reaction was, you know, stemming from. Because the truth is, that wasn't just a couple of teenage girls having fun. I mean, yes, they were having fun, and they were messing around. But those were two teenage girls who were being accused of a very, very dark crime. One, that you might not expect. And we are going to go through all of it. We have gotten our hands on so much of the footage, which I'm going to play here for you today. We are going to talk through journal entries, notes left behind, sacrifices, all sorts of things. It is highly disturbing, though. So I want to give you a little bit of a warning. Just, you know, be warned, okay? So for those of you who are brand new, check out this channel for the first time. Welcome. My name is Annie Elise. This is Ten To Life, where we talk all things true crime all the time. Hit the like button. Hit the subscribe button. And let's get into it. Now, really quickly before we get into the episode, I do want to share with you. Spring merch is officially here, but quantities are very limited. So you're going to want to snag it now before it sells out. It sold out last time very quickly. And this is the first time we have merged back in for gosh, almost a year now, maybe. To Annie Elise dot com right now, secure your goods and can't wait to see what your favorite is this time. The case we're going to be covering today is out of Seminole County, Florida. Now, on the night of January 22nd, 2026, at around 11.30pm, an anonymous tip came through on the Fortify Florida app. Now, if you aren't familiar with this app, this app is basically, I truly believe it is one of the best apps out there. And I think every county, every school should have it. But it's where you can submit these anonymous tips. It gets passed along to law enforcement and then they are able to follow up and investigate. And this particular tip was warning the Lake Brantley High School officials that they feared that a student at their high school was going to brutally murder another student the following day during school hours on campus. Now, the tipster had mentioned that the person that they were concerned about was someone named Jimmy. And part of the tip reads, quote, he's going to kill someone we know from school by the name of redacted. He stated that he would do it tomorrow. This happened just a couple of hours ago. I have a great suspicion that he would do this as he already had been recently involved with police officers at school about threats that we've been getting toward our school. He knows the people who have made the threats and the cops are also aware of this. He had also told me earlier today that the cops had confiscated his phone as they got another threat. Which apparently was one of the reasons why he wants to do something like this. So obviously this was concerning. And it was something that needed to be looked into, right? I mean, we live in a pretty scary day and age where every threat holds plenty of weight all on its own. But especially when it has something to do with schools and minors being in danger. So the police were able to quickly identify the person that this tipster was concerned about. But it wasn't somebody named Jimmy. It was a 15-year-old girl named Isabelle Valdez. I will say some reports indicate and report that Isabelle is transgender and that Isabelle goes by Jimmy. But most of the reporting does refer to her as Isabelle for now. So that's what I will refer to them as as Isabelle, but the tipster used the name Jimmy. Now like the tipster had mentioned, Isabelle was no stranger to law enforcement. She was already being investigated for making swatting calls to another student on three different occasions. And if you're not familiar with swatting, that's basically if you've ever seen those videos. It's where the FBI will like literally storm your house and put you on the ground and they have guns drawn and it's incredibly scary. And it's a false call saying that somebody's either in danger or poses a threat. And usually it's the FBI and the SWAT team that comes. That's why it's called swatting. And it's it's horrific. It is one of the scariest things ever. And a lot of people do this as pranks. But it got so bad in 2020 that I remember people had to put signs on their door saying I don't have any weapons in this house. If you are here for a swatting call, like I'm happy to cooperate because it was becoming so frightening. So apparently Isabelle was already doing this to other students. Which if I've never been swatted, thank God. I think it has to be probably one of the most traumatizing situations to ever go through. Not only as an adult, where I would be terrified now, but especially as a child. So she had done this reportedly to another student on three different occasions. And one of those being the very same day that they were now receiving this tip about her killing another student. So she was busy, needless to say. Now what's interesting about this investigation is that on the night that the police received this tip, they actually went to Isabelle's house and they spoke to her. They asked if she knew or had any contact with the person named in the tip, the person, the tipster claimed that she was going to kill. And her response to both of those questions was no. And actually, Isabelle kind of gaslighted these officers too, kind of like you guys have my phone from the other investigation. So how would I have even been able to contact him? Like what are you talking about? So I don't know, at that point, I guess they just took her word for it. They didn't cancel school the following day, they didn't do any sort of follow up, nothing like that, which up until this point you might be thinking, okay, well why are we even talking about this case? It seems like it's all just a false alarm that this tipster got the wrong name perhaps, the wrong information, they didn't, like, this girl was already being looked into for other stuff like what's going on here. However, it wasn't until the next day on January 23rd when things really started to hit the fan in this case. Because during the school hours, the investigators decided that they still needed to look into Isabelle, so they pulled her out of class, and that is when she started confessing to everything. The investigators asked her if she felt like harming herself or harming others, and her response was yes. Then she did something pretty bold and kind of surprising, in my opinion, she took the lead in the conversation. And she told the investigators that she had a handwritten letter that she was going to give to her parents after murdering this other student. Isabelle also claimed that inside her backpack were multiple different things that were needed to carry out this perfect murder. Knives, gloves, trash bags, wipes, a murderer's kit. And just in case for any reason, these officers thought that maybe she was bluffing or exaggerating. Isabelle opened up her backpack, she grabbed the white trash bag that was inside of it and pulled it out, and she handed it right over to the investigators. And it all it took was one very quick peek inside this bag, and that told the investigators all they needed to know. She wasn't lying about what she had brought with her. All of that kit, those, you know, the weapons, the cleanup, everything was right there in her backpack. So after handing over these weapons and the equipment, Isabelle then proceeded to tell the investigators exactly what she was planning to a tee. Because keep in mind, up until this point, nobody knew that there was even a plan, let alone what it was, just that one of the students at the school was potentially in danger, and that Isabelle was involved. But they didn't know what the exact details of this plan were. So this student, who was the target, is redacted in all of the court documents. I have seen the name out there, but obviously I'm not going to mention that in here. He's a minor, his privacy deserves to be kept that way. So what I will say is what we do know is that he was a male student at Isabelle's school. So Isabelle's plan was to wait in one of the upstairs bathrooms at the school until this student came in alone. She was then going to grab him, throw him into one of the stalls, and stab him to death. And I believe she was even quoted saying she was either going to stab him multiple times in the stomach, or she would slit his throat. But she was, quote, "undecided." Which obviously, the situation is not funny at all, it is highly disturbing, it is highly annoying. But the ignorance in Isabelle's plan and the thought process behind all of it, that is a little bizarre, and not funny, but kind of like what? Because she also claimed that she knew that she was going to be caught. It's not like she was planning this and she had to get away plan and she was going to frame someone or she was going to make it look like an accident. She said she knew that she was going to do this. She knew that she was going to get caught and that afterward her plan was to smoke a cigarette in the bathroom before leaving. She even brought a cigarette and a lighter to school. And so she said, yeah, I just wanted to smoke before being sent off to jail. She also claimed that she had flowers that she was going to bring to his funeral after killing him, which I've heard mixed reports. One being that it was going to be the flowers were going to be brought to his funeral, which if you thought you were going to jail right away, I don't know how you would even attend the funeral. But then I also saw reports that she was bringing flowers to sprinkle on his body in the bathroom stall after she killed him as like some sort of ritual type thing. So I don't know which is exactly the exact truth, but flowers were certainly involved, especially because I don't know what 15 year olds really comprehend that funerals don't take place immediately after a murder. It takes days sometimes weeks, so I don't know how she thought she was going to do that if she was going to jail, but anyway. So Isabel's reasoning for this whole thing, this whole sinister plan of her murdering a classmate is where things start to get even more twisted, though she claimed that this plan was perfect. So apparently she felt like the kid that she was going to kill resembled the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooter, Adam Lanza. But it wasn't because this kid resembled a murderer and she wanted to wipe him out because of what Adam did and what Adam did was so evil and, you know, he resembles him, he's got to be eliminated as well, it wasn't like that at all. In fact, you could argue that she, not even argue, you could say that she liked that he looked like Adam, that he resembled him. Because the truth was she admired Adam so much so that she believed that the voices in her head were telling her the truth when they allegedly told her that if she sacrificed the student that she was planning on killing, that she and the real Adam would create a blood pact and he would be brought back to life. Pretty bizarre stuff, right? And this is where I say it's kind of giving the Slenderman aspect a little bit here because if you remember the Morgan Geyser and Pay-N and the Slenderman stabbings, it was Slenderman's a fictitious character where Adam is obviously real. But these two girls were trying to appease Slenderman, this haunted like tall, super skinny, like scary figure, I think he like lives in the woods or the cemeteries and has like a castle or whatever. And they thought that by sacrificing their friend, it would be, you know, offering up something to Slenderman so they would be safe and also be able to live in his palace or whatever. So this is why I keep using that word very disturbed and disturbing because she truly thought that she could bring Adam back from the dead and that they would then have a blood bond and be connected. And what is also so bizarre with that, that I just want to say, Isabel is 15 years old, right? So when Sandy Hook happened, that was in the early 2010s, she would have been in diapers more than likely. I haven't done the exact math, but very, very young, so it's not like this is someone that she witnessed all of, you know, his doings and not that that would make it any better. That would actually arguably, I don't even know if that would make it work, so it would make it still very bad. But like, it's not like this happened within her lifetime. I mean, yes, but you know what I mean? It's not like where for us, when we, well, I don't know how old you are watching this, but for me, when 9/11 happened, I was in high school. So I was old enough to comprehend and understand what was happening to where it's not like she knew all of that. This is someone she would have had to learn about in her history books or someone she would have had to research. That's like me making a drawback to like the 40s or something like that and becoming so hyper fixated on a monster from back in that time period that right now I'm like, okay, you know, I'm going to sacrifice someone and I'm going to bring that person back from the dead and we're going to have a blood bond. It's like, what? What? Like, what's going on here? So after giving all this information, Isabel just sat there looking completely unbothered and honestly even a little bored, which you would have thought that she was just waiting to go to lunch or something, have break, go out with her friends, but she just seemed bored as all hell. Thank you. Hey, Brady, do you know our backels? No. You guys need a turn out there more? Sorry, no, I'm sorry. Do you have a back? Yeah, you do have me a favorite, you're best staying up with your hands behind your back. It's going to be just a little bit okay. Move. You start pushing your arms, your hands will get real tight out. Like I said, just do your hands too much. You all right? Yeah. You need me a loosen one? Which one? It's okay, it's just, I got it. Like, so good with that other thing. Now before the police took Isabel away, she told them one very last important detail. She had told her best friend, 14-year-old Lois Lippert, everything. Her exact plan, who she was going to kill, why she was going to kill him, how she was going to kill him. In fact, she even handed over a phone that she claimed was Lois's, which I guess it was an extra phone that Lois had loaned her because remember, the investigators had taken hers for all the swatting things. And she told the investigators, you know, go ahead, text Lois and tell her that I've been caught. Which the nerve of this kid alone is insane. I mean, that's not how things work. You can't just instruct the police officers on what to do and how to do it when you're the one being arrested. Have they explained what's going on? You've come up with the other one. So, unfortunately, you are in the arrest. You're being charged with attempted first degree murder. And that's premeditated. You've got to be transported to jail. And then you'll be able to get in contact with your parents. But we are going to call your parents. I'll let them know what's going on. Now, because of Lois's knowledge and involvement in not only knowing about the crime but also lending Isabel her phone, she was also on the hook for this attempted murder as well. She was actually being interviewed and handcuffed in a separate room at the exact same time that Isabel was. Because think about it, even if she was not going to go into the bathroom stall with Isabel and do the stabbing herself, she not only had knowledge of it and didn't report it, but she also gave her a phone to help her follow through with her plan and then notify her when she was done. She was an accessory. That was the true. And that's where it also starts to give not only the slender man thing again, but Skylar Nice. If you're familiar with that case where the two girls got together and they wanted to have this bond with one another. And I say bond, that's a very important word here because we're going to get to that shortly. They wanted to bond with one another and kill their friend and they even had said like we're going to go on three and we're going to what did they say? Like we're going to go ballistic on her and it is one of the most god awful crimes that I have ever heard of. And anytime you hear of these like adolescent girls who have so much hatred in them and danger and sinister thoughts, it's truly unnerving. So my point being that Lois knew all about this and did nothing to notify authorities to stop Isabel to try to talk her out of it. So she was just as equally on the hook. So after cuffing both of them, the investigators decided that they needed to get them both back to the station for multiple different reasons. I mean obviously they needed to get them away from the school, even if they were cuffed. But they also had to now get them to the station. They needed to call their parents, they needed to start putting them through the loop, doing everything they needed to do. So that is when we see Isabel and Lois together for the first time. They're being escorted out of the high school together. And again, neither one of them are panicking. They aren't sobbing, they aren't telling the officers, you know, you got it all wrong. We're innocent. Like we weren't really going to actually go through with it. They just have their chins held high and they couldn't seem to care less. I don't think so, we got that. Dennis, could you start going? Yeah, come on. Try to search right now. Yes, please. Okay. What's going on? I'm going to have to swim in. Oh, see. I need to work in. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm going to have to go to the next one. Okay. I'm going to go to the next one. Okay. Okay. All right. All right. [BLANK_AUDIO] Check on you real quick. [BLANK_AUDIO] Do you have anything hidden on you that may have been messed? [BLANK_AUDIO] Once we at least get him in the car, we'll be back to get their bags. [BLANK_AUDIO] Checking the bags is up in the air. Both of them, you guys can go for it. Okay. So they don't need their book bags. [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] Now, I don't know that you all caught what was said in the beginning of that clip, because the officer whose body can we just watched was behind everyone. However, you can hear the girls giggling and laughing about something. And I'm going to show you another body cam, this time from one of the officers who was a bit closer. Take a listen. [BLANK_AUDIO] You can easily, very easily hear them saying hi to one another, hey to one another, and like talking. But what I'm more stuck on is that at least to me, it definitely sounds like they are talking about kissing someone. And I can't tell if it's Isabel and it's her saying we're going to kiss them or something like that referring to the officers who have them handcuffed, or maybe if Lois is saying something about them being best friends. And then Isabel said like we're going to kiss then like referring to one another. But there was something weird about this exchange, at least to me. I don't know, guys, I honestly don't know. All I know is they are being arrested for attempted murder. And I'm hearing the word kiss very clearly followed by giggles. Like this is one of the funniest things to have ever happened to them. So I'm definitely curious to know what you guys think you hear. Maybe I'm completely wrong and I'm hearing something totally different. So feel free to comment below and let me know what you think Isabel was saying and if she was saying something different. Now what's crazy is this all might seem. We haven't even gotten to the crazy parts yet. Now for whatever reason, the officers decided to transport Lois and Isabel in the back of the same cop car. And this was a major mistake. Not because they tried to make a run for it or tried to escape or tried to pull a latisha stalk and chuck a monster can at somebody's head, but because it gave them the time to laugh about the whole thing together even more. As soon as Lois gets in the car, they start laughing about how the cops were going to go through the victim's phone. And for whatever reason, the two of them, they just thought that it was hilarious. There was only one moment that they didn't find so funny during this whole car ride. And that is when Lois told Isabel, who had snitched on them as they called it. That's a funny now. Was it? I'm going to be arrested too. What? I told them he knew. He didn't report me. I told him already. He did a tip. There was a tip. There was a tip showing. Just here. So I'm going to put some of the tip. Why wouldn't you tell the police that you put the tip though? Huh? The police did a tip though. Because these anonymous tip. But I was just assuming he was by the writing. Yeah. Just like it was? Yeah. Oh my f***. Got a noise, shouldn't have taught him. Because he was like, oh, can you please tell me? I can't sleep till I f***. God. Yeah, I got sure the tip and it was like, uh, my friend, uh, 15-year-old, uh, he goes by Jimmy, is going to be playing to f***. Yeah, and it was like, I don't really remember their real name, but I think it was. It was spelled wrong too. God. It's just such a f***. Snitch. That's what I mean. Who I thought when I saw it. Tip. Tip. But that moment of seriousness, it didn't last long at all. Maybe a minute, maybe at most. And then they went right back to laughing together and talking about the whole experience of getting arrested together. Like it was some kind of pretend game and that they would get to go back home that evening and get back to life as usual. I don't know if they didn't realize the severity of it or if they just didn't care about the severity of it. They're cold in that room. I know. Dude, they had me sitting there because I was so. Dude, they took away my chocolate. No! I was able to eat, like, a part of it, like, a part of the big bar. Oh, okay. But it was not safe. Well, yeah, really. Damn it. I wanted to come back to second period, so I could have, like, nibbled off somewhere here. It was like. It was, like, rainbow. Dude, they pulled up the security camera and stuff. I was like, "You're in the camera and stuff." And I go, "This is all I have." "This is all I have." Yeah. It was the first time I've ever seen this. I was actually. I wanted to see so many more. I was like, "Whoa, look! I'm on the camera, man." Yeah, so cold. I was like, "Damn." I forget the things just, like, videos. Yeah, like that. I like the lyrics. Yeah. Like the lyrics. Hey. Hey. Hey. Truthfully, my opinion. I don't think they have any remorse for the situation at all. For what they were going to do, for the time that the investigators invested into solving the case, none of that. But not only that, they also don't seem to just take it very seriously at all. And just wait until you hear what they have to say next. [Music] Right, a school shooter, at least. It would be a prison for life. Yeah. At least I'm not a school shooter. We'd be in prison for life, for sure. Like, what? What? You don't realize that first-degree murder, if they had succeeded in killing their victim, would also end the same way? Gosh! Gosh! Ow! I'm overmade. Ow. These are lucky, more comfortable breaths. This man will make it hurt. Gotta keep him still. He's like, "What the f*** is this face still?" Oh, God. These are more comfortable than the last car I was in. Please, Carl. I was, I had my things behind my back, but I had to have a really bad f***. I had to, like, go into, like, crazy visions to feel comfortable. And he was an hour long car ride. Dude, last time, they only had, they didn't even put me in handcuffs. They just took me, and they let me take my stuff too. I was able to take, like, to my mobile, to use my flash and my phone. Oh. But then they took my phone away. They took all my stuff away. 'Cause I was like, "You can't have this in there." So I was like, "Okay, whatever." I don't think I had anything on me, but I got my shirt tucked in away. 'Cause I think I went off to sleep a little bit, or how? And I guess that wasn't allowed. Ooh. Yeah. Friscuous. Then they start joking about the relationship that they will have in prison together. Like two people in trouble for the same crime would be allowed to be all buddy-buddy together in prison. Which, for this, it's almost like maybe they were watching oranges the new black, and they thought that they would have, like, a great friendship, best friendship, even maybe who knows relationship in prison together. But that's obviously not the reality. We're going to become one of those lesbian couples, and you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And you could be the [bleep] Yes, okay. Hey, this is my [bleep] stay away. Yeah. Will you try to look good for your mug shot? [laughs] Oh, [bleep] Am I going to get a mug shot? Well, we're going to jail, what do you mean? Oh, yeah, that's cool. But I was going to do my makeup this morning for the mug shot, but I couldn't find anything. I'm glad I looked too bad today. I look horrible. It's over and don't worry, you don't need to, I'm, sorry, you're the *******, just a matter if you look at it. Hey, at least they're gonna see, they weren't gonna see me somewhere or another in the mug shot. You're not supposed to spread a story around the TCC though. Hey! Oh, these are too ******* floated, I couldn't. You're not gonna see the photos. Then Isabel brings up the note that she wrote to her parents and she asks Lois if she wrote a note to her parents as well. She's probably gonna be, like, you gotta be totally, but you can't, I wrote him a note and I was like, yeah, I'm not gonna go to you for my actions. I don't feel good to you for my actions, but I feel good to you and you're gonna feel as long as you're a ***** here. You know, I should at least try. But I did write a note to my parents and they're like, you're right one. You know, they said they'd be able to contact my parents when we get to meet them. I even talked to her and she said, I don't even know if my parents know what's going on. They don't, they haven't found my name at least yet. I'm also gonna be yelling at me for the phone. What are you gonna do? What are you trying to *****? I think my mom's gonna be okay. So let's just all take a second really quickly to go over this note because I actually have the note that Isabel wrote right here. Isabel writes, "Dear mama and papa, I'm sorry for what I'm gonna do. Hopefully we'll find this paper. I want you guys to know that none of it is your fault or anyone else's in that matter. I chose to do this by myself, for myself and Adam Lanza. They told me that Adam would come back to speak to me if I did this for him. Adam Lanza wanted it. I think it's a fair and beautiful sense of devotion on my behalf. I love Adam Lanza. We're soulmates, just waiting to be reunited once more. I want you guys to know that you were the most perfect parents ever. I'm sorry I could not be a better child. I've known that there's been something wrong with me since I was a little kid. I just never showed it and I'm sorry. I was never really shy. I just hated people and I was aware of how disgusting everyone is. Being forced to talk was torture. I pretended to be a socialite to make you guys happy because I loved seeing you guys happy. It was one of the only things that made me happy. Over the years, I've just lost control over myself and my emotions. Whenever I told someone I hated you guys, it was a pure lie. I'm sorry for hurting you and I deserve what's coming for me as I am also disgusting, cruel and useless. I need a pretty loaded note, right? Now obviously this letter is a very different side of Isabel, especially from the version of her in the cop car saying that she doesn't actually "give a fuck" about being in trouble or what she was going to do. And I find it interesting too that she has not empathy for her parents but care for her parents say I love you. You were always the best parents. I'm sorry I couldn't be better. I loved seeing you happy to where it shows that she is capable of genuine positive emotions. It's not like she's just this kid who's dark behind the eyes as completely dark as no like hair or regard or love for anyone. I think that she does, which makes this again even more disturbing. So anyway, back to this dreadful car ride, unlike anything I've ever witnessed in my life before. In those, I was a bit like car kindness, and I was like, another pretty car kindness. Of course, not that dangerous. But I was like, "Do they have me going out to the bathroom?" And they had this lady sent me in the stall and they had like two other people in the stall? No, none. Yeah, one of them sent me in the stall. I love it too, where else I waited. You think I'm going to be able to fuck? I got scared to ask her to back them. I love this song to go. I only wouldn't like twice because they searched me every time and they made me take measures and get socks off. I'm gliving and asking them to get along and do all that. And then again, we see the two of them talking about prison. And also the way that they think it's all going to go down, which no doubt they have to be influenced from the movies and TV shows. Like I said earlier, this situation and what they are being arrested for is so serious, obviously. But the way that they're talking about their mug shots even in this next clip, it kind of made me laugh from shock more than anything else. Watch. "You gonna bend over and cough for me?" "Bend over and cough for you." "Yeah, that's what works." "What would they do at it?" "Yeah, they look at your ass." "See if anything comes out." "I don't know. I haven't gone to jail." "Oh, I don't know. I haven't gone to jail." "Did I ask my mom to do it last night?" "And she was like, 'No. Mom, if you did what I was doing, you would've done it for me to be honest. Look, I'm pretty for my next shot." "Yeah. God." "I got my hair before him." These clips, to me, genuinely feel like a bad SNL skit or something because there is no way that people actually are thinking and acting like that. There has got to be no way. And honestly, this next clip is now also where I still have to get a little bit pissed off. I'm not going to lie. Because these two freaking brats aren't taking any of it seriously. Like, you can threaten and plan to murder someone and all will be well. Lois even goes on and is bragging about how she's not that involved and how she's going to be out in no time. Which isn't at all true. First of all, I mean, Lois didn't just know about the murder that Isabelle was planning to execute. She also, in addition to giving her the phone and not reporting it, she also reportedly helped sharpen the 12-inch blade that was going to be used on the student. So, to me, that is just as bad as being the one to stab him. And that's something that she eventually even admitted to out loud in this car ride. Just idiotic and we love to see it. We love to see dumb criminals, but here we go. The audacity that these two have is truly insane. I'm probably not going to lie. My involvement is not now. I'll be out before you. I probably not even get life to go to the office. My friends are going to get me. That's not what I can do. Mike. Yeah, but. Young lady, what's your name? Which one? Isabelle Wildlitz. Isabelle Wildlitz. Lower slipper. Dude, I should've got my diagnosis before this. I've been talking about bad things. Yeah, you know what? I should've said something. I should've got it before it. Then I would have some sort of thing to clean up. These two kids don't have a clue about the real world. They don't have a clue about the consequences. But trust me, they're about to find out real soon. Especially, since this entire debriefing conversation is on camera. Which take a listen to what Isabelle says. Remember, the girl who had just claimed that she was hearing voices telling her to kill in order to bring back Adam. Dude, I thought I was going to get some. like word. That's why I was so excited about everything. I think I would be so jolly about what I was going to do. Yeah, I was kind of asking you, they were worried that you were going to get a psych ward. I know. But I should've told them all this s---. Like, they. Okay, so I was there and then they were asking me about the sweating incident that happened. And um. I was. I started crying because I thought she was going to feel bad. Like, instead of me to a psych ward because I was like. I thought I was hurting someone. Yeah, I thought I was hurting this boy. And then they saw through my s---. I mean, their defense teams don't stand a chance after these videos. So now we've heard about the plan. We had heard about the letters. And in this clip that you're about to watch next, Lois and Isabelle start talking about drawings. And I'll let you listen to what they have to say before explaining what those drawings are a little bit more because I think it's important to have the context. And then they put out the bag for the backpack. I had to tell them everything that was inside. They didn't know, um, they also saw the drawings. Oh, yeah, I told them, I told them about that. I told them like, "Yeah, I did some weird drawings." I didn't actually tell the full thing to like, 10/30, I think. Yeah, they made me tell everything that was in the drawings. Oh, look, can you remind me of the drawings? Let me just know what they went through. Did they come out? They were like, "This is really good!" Yeah, they said, "You're quite the audience." And I was like, "No, that's my friend Lois's." These drawings, done by Lois, were supposed to depict the victim and Isabelle. Some of the pictures showed Isabelle grabbing him. Some showed him on the ground, next to Isabelle, bleeding out. Some were almost even sexual in nature. Which my biggest question in all of this is, how freaking long is this drive to the police station from the school? I mean, the way that these two are just like cutting it up and telling on themselves, more and more, giving more and more details by the minute, if I were the cops. I would just keep. driving in circles. I would just keep going. I keep spilling. Keep spilling. Like, we want to know everything. Keep going. Hey, my sister goes to therapy over here. Oh, really? Yeah. Hey, my mom's going to see the police car. She's going to be like, damn. And then when I call her, hey, my mom's going to be a police car. You see me? I'm there with you. I don't. Oh, I'm so sad. It's falling off. I'm stuck in the sweaty. Um. Proof? Oh, are we sick? Are we going to get out of that? Hey. Oh, this is much quite comfortable. So as they get closer to the station, neither one of them is getting more nervous about what's about to happen. They aren't anxious about what their parents will think or how much time they're going to spend in prison, nothing like that. Instead, they just talk about how they should have killed the kid in the morning so that the investigators didn't intercept them before they could get the job done. That is what they cared about. I said that in the morning. Yeah. No, no, no. He was right there. I was following behind him. No, they came back. I told them like, you know, important stuff. And then they came back and they were like, I'm getting really pissed off. You're not telling me everything. I was like, I just went, I didn't even, I just totally remember. So I had to sit there for like a few minutes, like just try and remember every [bleep] and every [bleep] little detail. And I was like, oh, there are these images of Anna Manza. And I should, dude, I had to, I like to forget what to say halfway through my interview. This was also me for the most of the interview. Yeah. Well, actually, like how many of you with me being just like, silent and not doing anything? Because I was hoping like, I'm just going on to, you know, the writer remains silent. But look, he didn't, that didn't really work. I know, because like, with, oh, they're going to use it against me. Hey, why are you trying to do this little boy? Um, sorry. You're not a little boy. He's older than you. Who is that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. He's older than you. He's not some little boy. They can't use, they can't say. It's the little boy. He's older boy. He's older boy. He's older boy. He's a bearding man. He's a beard. Oh, but yeah, I think, uh, in my dreams, he told me that he wanted me to kill him. No. Yeah. Oh, my god. I almost laughed. I almost beat myself. Oh. Dude, um, when they were interviewing me for the swatting, they could not say this dude, um, this dude, (beep) who loved Diddy, and they could not say Diddy, I love. (laughs) And I felt so bad because I was like, this is nothing to laugh about, but I kept on fucking laughing. And I kept on saying 6/7. Oh, I love my 6/7. Dude, because they were talking about, like, my grade. And stuff. Like, when they first started. And we were like, yeah, it was this. It's 6/7th grade. Wait, I did a 6/7th when I went back. 6/7th? (laughs) Yo, stop it. Here we have it. (laughs) I need to cough. (laughs) You cough on me? Um, you weirdo. I couldn't need to fart. (laughs) Dude, I needed to take this (beep) over there. And like, I was so embarrassed because they kept on coming into the salt with me. And when I sat down, I felt like I had (beep) and I felt like it was gonna come out. Because I had diarrhea. So heavy. (laughs) Uh. Hold my stuff, my seat, please. (laughs) Say, we get them. They're cleaning it up. Oh, nothing. (laughs) We got them in the bathroom. We get them in the bathroom. Now, regardless of the things that they should have done, they say that they're just glad to be there together. To, back to that word, bond together if nothing else. That it's a bonding experience. (beep) (beep) They're okay. Thank you. (laughs) It was such a bonding experience. I love this. Now by now, you must be thinking, you know, wow, these girls are dumb. Dumber than dirt, especially since everything that they are saying is being recorded. But don't worry. At least one of them has thought things through. Lois, apparently, had been contemplating what she was going to do if she ever was recorded in an interrogation room. Take a listen. Did I have to be in a room where they have to record me or something? I'm gonna, I'm going to pull out my (beep) or that I'd see people. (laughs) That's what I was thinking. If you had to start doing that and stuff, just doing the audio recording. I was like, I'm going to pull out my (beep) (beep) But that is, what's that thing called? Public. Public, and probably like, and he's seen, or what is it called in decency? I don't know. I was supposed to be a forensic evidence, please. Please, I wanted to be a police officer. Please. (beep) I told them that. I was going to tell them that yesterday because I was going to say, oh yeah, I'm doing that and stuff because I'm gonna be a police officer. Um, no, sorry. Okay. Dude, I really thought I was going home today. Why? Well, I didn't think I was going home, but I at least thought, oh yeah, I'm going to the psych ward. I thought I was going home. I was, I was gonna, I was asking real quick. Hey, you wanna come home? (laughs) I said maybe I'm sick of visiting you. Oh yeah, I should. Ah, bro, do you think this mom is gonna lie to me? Oh, no way, she finds out you're a Jew. (laughs) My family is probably gonna even visit me. Awesome. Yeah, let me (beep) care. I'll visit you, okay? I'll visit you. I'll visit you. When I'm out. Before you. Hey, babe, you're not gonna be out before me. How would I get a longer sentence from you? Finally, after what felt like an eternity, even more for me, they made it to the police station. Oh, good, I need to go to the bathroom. I'm gonna let you pee pee. Dude, I need to do the bathroom. I'm gonna piss myself. I'm gonna get the guy to take that up. Um, my mom's just right here. (laughs) They're going to the same place. Yeah. I did not expect her to let us go in the same far. (beep) No, complain. Yeah, complain. Oh. It's so much better than just having to stare off in the distance and think of all your regrets. Oh, mom, please. I do feel bad for my mama. Does the only person that feel bad for you? I do. I feel bad for your mama, too. Not for what happened to him, but that I'm gonna be gone. He's probably gonna be so worried. Yeah. We're not. We're never sitting with that again, my mom. I know. Oh, yeah. Hey, it's gonna be a yummy. I should have never worn that army shirt. Hey, no. (screams) (beep) Yo. I shouldn't have torn it here. God. I wonder what kind of top of that tower. We did a little kiss. Yes. Oh. Oh. It's so much. Whoa. What? I need to pee. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. I'm going to hit you. You can't hit me. Come here. Come here. Come here. Come here. Come here. Come here. Come here. Come here. Let's start. I messed with that kiss myself. We're laughing anymore. Yuck. After getting booked, I'm sure that reality started sinking in, at least a little bit, which I would have paid such good money to see their reactions after that, to see them going from giddy and happy and bonding to like, oh shit, we're not going home tonight. I don't get to go home and watch Pokemon or whatever they watch, you know, like, I would have loved to see that aha moment. So both Isabel and Lois were charged with attempted first degree murder and possession of a weapon on school property. Now this was all toward the end of January. Now more recently in March, they both had hearings where the prosecution argued that they were both a danger to society and that they shouldn't be let out on bond to wait for their trial. Apparently, Lois's parents spoke with the hearing and they tried their hardest to get Lois home to wait for her trial date. They even claimed that they would watch her very strictly, which is hard for me to believe, given where she ended up. I mean, it doesn't seem like things were ever very strict in that house. But her dad argued that the work computer that he kept at their house was also locked down and that he couldn't even access basic websites on it. So that that should show how strict things were going to be as if that was going to be the one thing that got the court to let her come home. Fortunately, their pleas were drowned out by both Isabel and Lois who continue to show no remorse as they now spoke out at the hearing. Just like when they were in the back of that cop car, one of them said she didn't feel guilty of her actions, and the other said that the only person she felt sympathy for was for her mom. The reports didn't indicate who said what though. Both girls pleaded not guilty, and as you can imagine, their families wouldn't give the press any comments when they were leaving the hearing. So that's where we are right now, and I'm sure that it will still be a while until we see either one of them go to trial, but I honestly can't wait. Not only so, that this poor kid who almost was killed by them gets justice, but also because of how cocky they were. I hope that they get the maximum sentence truly, and I hope that they finally have that moment of realization where you can't just do things in life with no consequences, right? I've been saying more and more. I don't know what the motivation is. I don't know if Isabel truly was mentally disturbed and thought that she really could bring Adam back from the dead, or if it's this whole new wave of things that we've been seeing over the last three years, where these young kids, their frontal lobe isn't fully formed. They see people going viral, they see murderers, and it's almost as though they want the notoriety more than they can even rationalize what's happening in their mind and realize how wrong it is. And obviously even though they're minors, they know right from wrong, I think every kid does to some degree, but I think that's also where the conversation gets complicated of should they be tried as an adult, a minor, because they aren't fully developed in their brain and all that. But my point being there has been such an up to in teen violence, teen on teen violence at that. And actually I take that out, not just teen on teen violence, even like teen on their parent violence, and not because everybody's trying to go viral, but there is something where this whole like social media element is weaved in to where it's like either they don't realize the severity of what they're planning and what they sometimes, many times execute, or they don't care because they feel like the notoriety that they're going to receive trumps all of that, which is why they're cocky and boastful and not remorseful and have the big ego throw back to aid in food. She remember him. He has been convicted and tried as an adult in the death of and murder, sorry, in the murder of his classmate Tristan Bailey, stabbed her over 114 times, and while he was in the back of the cop car, he hadn't been arrested yet. They were taking for questioning. He took his phone and he was snapchatting, selfie is being like, "Ah, Tristan, I'm in the back of a cop car right now, like, duh, duh, duh, duh." And there's been so many cases like that where it's like they don't realize now's not the time to be like cocky and egotistical and on social media. I don't know. I don't know what is going on, but there's certainly, I don't think it's just that we're exposed to it more now. I know when I was younger, when I was a teen, there was never this much adolescent violence. And it wasn't just because now we're seeing it and we're more privy to it and true crime is more mainstream in terms of consumption. There really was not that much like this, so I have to believe that it somehow is involving that piece of it, the virality of it or the notoriety that gets involved or that they think that they will receive from it, because they see true crime kind of glamorized in a way. There's always a new Netflix stock dropping, a new Hulu series. There's all of these things that's in your feed and it's almost like even if they don't outright say that that's their motivation, they want that. I don't know. I need to get a psychologist in here. I'm like, really pick their brain on that. Maybe that's what I'm going to do because I need to get my mind right in understanding why there is so much violence with kids between the ages of 12 and 16. I know those are pivotal years, but like to do something this diabolical, that is insane. So I will definitely keep you posted as more information comes out in this case. Make sure hit the subscribe button if you haven't yet. We have done the FOIAs. We are talking with people involved in the case. There is a lot more coming out, but because there are everybody involved in this case as a minor, the two girls and the victim, it's difficult to get a lot of it. So we're getting in like drips and drabs. So as I have more, I will certainly come back on here and share it with you. So make sure that you're subscribed. Now really quickly before you go, I want to give you one last reminder. Spring Merch has officially landed. Go to anilease.com. 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