DSA Wins in Florida, Trump Approval Falls to 33%, & NY ISIS Attack Thwarted | PBD #847

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Very rarely there's there's Vinnie reveal things about him that nobody else knows he just said some are you okay if I tell everybody that's fine Vinnie was kicked out of an online university the right the right that's how you get kicked because of harassment what was it or anyone who's like a little bit long story they're still litigating you get kicked out of an online university control all physically you're not where but I took I tried to control all the lead it just wasn't by the way just going to in about three seconds Tom's going to tell us a joke here's the impact I want everybody to be ready for so Tom's wearing a sticker saying I voted just everybody knows Tom voted but it's too late because it was two days ago three days ago that's okay no no no no no no no I I'm from California and I haven't stopped voting at it okay that's a good point it was not a bad joke we got we got that's a that's a four that's a four five I think it's okay for Tom Yes, look we got it just ended a week lots to discuss you know we have John Doyle here with us from the Blase great to have you here with us yeah thank you for having me yes you are team they're like Pat we got to get John on he does a very good job so you got a lot of fans here in a house you missed it Adam was kind of trying to punk a little bit because Adam feels like the old man he misses being 26 27 years old the good old days 30 years ago when Adam was in his 20s I just turned 40 oh let's go yeah yeah so ever let's go through some of the stories that we got all right let's go through some of the stories one story here we have to talk about $25 minimum wage could eliminate five million us jobs economists warns and there's certain states that would get hit by it more than others this army unit think about what a creative way to get people to reenlist for an additional two to six years hey if between August and November you reenlist will give you a four day weekend to play as much grand theft auto six as you want sign me up right now we'll give you four days for six years of your life and already 130 people reenlisted can you imagine like outwean list just to play so they're doing creative stuff over there a democratic socialist one in the great state of Florida people are shell shot how did this girl Angie Dixon scores socialist breakthrough in Trump's Florida that's a great title by Axios Bernie Sanders came on on one of the zooms to kind of endorse and sell her up you know and then all of a sudden he wasn't on it so we'll talk about that Eric Swat was just having a really great time the last couple months all the stories about him are very complimentary and no crime no you know doing anything with the Christine Fang Chinese spy bomb you know but there's additional stories that are coming up that could get very very nasty we'll talk about that Trump's approval rating plummets to new low ahead of critical midterms more work to do that's a fox news headline that I just read to you so we'll address that and then there's something that happened with Trump sounding alarm on crazy around saying regime would use nuclear weapon what ad hesitation a lot of people are saying like why are we why are we going back to this do we want to continue going this direction and Tom's got some thoughts on that and then few other stories this harbor stories a little weird Harvard agrees to pay 53 million dollars after more managers sold body parts like you read that you're like is that a real story that can be a real story it's an absolutely real story but it's a real story okay you can't make sure Sean Duffy warns daughters Harvard corrupts girls like her we'll get into that Sophie Cunningham hints at WNBA commission shake up as she goes after Kathy Engelbert very weird on the way she did it two pox murder trial has taken place and there used to be a rumor back in the days that you know they took his ashes and they rolled it up and they smoked it and I was like yeah but that's a rumor that's just good for hip hop rumor apparently it really did happen okay apparently so what we'll talk about that in a couple different things we keep you detailing detectives as nephew shot two park in 1996 will address that Tom's heavily following the two park case and then aside from that I think we got a couple other stories that we'll try to get this one lady you know we had a research that told us something and I don't even know if that's appropriate to say but he said this and he said there's only one person that looks better in a burger than this in this person being one of them because a white woman becomes a Muslim and she joins ISIS apparently yep and then she goes and gets arrested allegedly plotting New York state capital attack and this is an ABC news story and this is a true story Vinnie and wait till you see what she wore and where she was going to buy her bomb making material your type though you she's so hot I'm not gonna lie she's hot all right and then how do you tell which one Karen Karen Karen bass and Nithya ramen had a moment of an exchange going back and forth and Karen bass and are you sending your your resignation is that what you're doing and it's like she she has the second lowest show rate of showing up and all these other women also have kids you have to see this exchange it's a great exchange and then I found a clip from Pep coach who is one of the greatest coaches of all time someone says the greatest coach of all time he talks about passion in a way to his players where they catch the camera from the bottom of one of his players you got to see this clip it's such a beautiful clip it's emotional but it's such a beautiful clip to show of what it takes to win at the highest level we will show that as well with that being said we are one week away 10 days away from the ball conference if you haven't yet registered this is your last chance team in the back go and play the clip do you know on average how many people you and I meet in 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would destroy millions of jobs and hit booming sunbelt states hardest warned Rebecca packs then researcher uh director at the conservative employment policies institute which projects over five million jobs lost nationwide progressive lawmakers won twenty five dollar floor by twenty thirty one for large employers and elimination of the tip credits some of the top states that are going to be impacted by the twenty five dollar minimum wage include Texas Pennsylvania Florida Ohio Tennessee these states have a massive workforce they are currently abiding by the seven twenty five minimum wage rates so a twenty five dollar minimum wage represents more than tripling the current minimum wage more than a third of projected losses fall on a restaurant hospitality include a one point two million dollar tipped workers one fair wage part of the coalition pushing the floor disagreed we're seeing so many mega voters excited about a twenty five dollar minimum wage said president saarou jai arman the group said one job should be enough to live on called the epi projection inconsistent with decades of minimum wage research cited UC Berkeley economist Michael Reich finding phased increased raises incomes with a literal effect on employment the federal minimum wage sat at seven twenty five since two thousand a night so Tom the argument would be since two thousand and nine that seventeen years till today seven twenty five isn't it time we raise the minimum wage the argument on the other side the libertarian side is let the market decide what does Tom say here's what I say I have two points on this the first is you have to be careful about about the the liberals who are there and the the socialists because in there you you find a code and what the code is is that every job should be a living wage I mean that's what Wang said when he came out and he ran for president we actually had him on the podcast Andrew right Yang Yang that Wang Yang would have white yeah Yang it's not the same thing it's not the Yang Yang Yang sorry um insert bad joke here the um I'm glad you held back yeah I did so they're out there talking about living wage right that everything needs to be a living wage Bernie talks about it um uh. Andrew Wang's brother, Andrew Yang, he talked about it. You know, they've all talked about it. And they're in code. So whenever they bring up minimum wage, they see that as a door to run in and to push that angle. However, the fact that it hasn't risen since a certain amount of time, you know, soon as you open the door, the reason it hasn't risen is because the capitalist and a lot of the people in government, you know, say listen, once you turn that and they give the government a knob to turn, what do they do? They turn it. And so, okay, we raise the minimum wage here and they say they're going to sweep in and the socialist side of the Democratic Party is just going to turn that knob and take it all the way to 25 or 30 because they believe every job is to be a minimum wage job. Well, you know, that's my point. My point is you can't go down that path. And if as soon as you say, isn't it time to change it versus letting the market decide, you've now walked right through the door to have a negotiated discussion on the floor, and Congress about it and guess where you're going to end up. You're going to end up with all the crazies on the left pushing for the living wage as soon as you open the door and say I'm willing to talk to you. - Yeah, so John, you're in your 20s. So a lot of your friends, I'm sure when they're talking about affordability, getting married, having kids, buying a house, maybe this is a good idea. What do you stand as a 20 something year old, 26, 27 year old, should they raise the minimum wage to $25 an hour? - No, absolutely not. You know, I even remembered this conversation during Bernie's first campaign for president when I was 16 or 17, I was taking econ in high school, and I remember thinking, okay, here we go, I'm going to learn all about why minimum wage rising is actually a good thing, and they taught it straight. They were like, look, we may be teaching you candy and economics, but like we still believe that, you know, when you raise the price of labor, you're going to see obviously a decrease in the jobs available because that's just like how it works. And so seeing so many young people still embrace this, even though we are taught this, it's all the other like liberal stuff you learn in public school tells me that obviously whatever's going on with affordability is striking people so much that they're anxious enough to like ignore even what they know to be true about how like minimum wage laws affect the supply of available jobs, and I think that the Trump administration has done a decent job trying to, you know, address these affordability issues with people like JD Vance articulating things like, you know, home ownership, wanting to bring back jobs domestically, but in so far as there is that issue with affordability, if Democrats and Socialists can like exploit that for political gain, they're obviously going to do it every time. - And they seem like they're doing it and making a lot of progress. I mean, you saw a Socialist yesterday when the primary or two days ago in Florida, Adam, your thoughts, the minimum wage, $25. - Well, if you just want to understand how minimum wage works and how math works, take the minimum wage, $25 an hour, times it by two, that means you're making $50,000 a year, okay? So if you want to start everybody out at $50,000, we're going to have a major problem. I know you've told the story, you worked at Hagen Dollars for four bucks an hour, I worked for 10 bucks an hour at one point. At some point, we're going to have to realize if you start everyone at $50, that means that everyone is going to be making $80,000. So you might be saying, that's great, we're all making more money. That means everything's going to cost more. So right now, this is federal minimum wage, just to be clear, right? Right now, it's state minimum wage. I think the highest states are obviously the big blue states, California, New York, Hawaii, it's $17 an hour. But then you have states, like, I think Florida is maybe 12, you have certain states, lower economic states, Mississippi, Alabama, where it's closer to the federal minimum, which is $7 an hour. If you make a federal minimum wage of $25 an hour, that means every single state is going to be basically firing employees left and right, because they can't keep up. So here's the biggest challenge I have. And a time we're basically seeing that AI is going to take over and put unemployment, which is at 4%, which is pretty damn good right now, historically pretty damn low. All of a sudden, AI is going to put people out of the workforce. Now businesses can't pay their employees a reasonable wage. They're going to fire everybody, and there's a major, major challenge with even talking about something like this. Yeah, so you hear different angles with this. Someone to blanket $25 minimum wage across the board for everybody. Some are saying $25 minimum wage if you work for a big company. So not a smaller company. So then they're going to identify, because if you do it blanket across the board for all the big companies, every small company, the big companies are going to sit there and say, absolutely raise the minimum wage to $25. Why do you say that? Because, so let's just say I'm doing $2 billion a year. And I have 80 competitors around me that are smaller than me. I'm the behemoth $2 billion. They're all under $100 million. Or let's just say they're, yeah, let's just say they're under $100 million, between $10 million to $100 million in top line revenue. They collectively do $4 billion a year. But I'm the behemoth guy that's $2 billion a year, okay? They all of a sudden, when I go by products, I can buy 50,000 pieces of this product and he'll sell it to me at $2. He can only buy 5,000 of those products at $6. I'm getting a better discount because I'm buying volume. No problem. So he has a bigger profit margin to be able to afford to pay higher salary. All of a sudden, he goes to $25 an hour. All the other guys that are at a lower money, minimum wage, they go out of business. I don't know what just happened. If you know what happens, these businesses 10 to 100 million that go out of business, that revenue rolls up to who? The $2 billion company, all of a sudden becomes $3.1 billion. They're like, what a freaking great idea. Absolutely raise a minimum wage to $25. We love it, they want that, right? The bigger companies would love seen something like this happen, but they don't realize they're gonna hurt a small business owner. Do I think they need to raise it or not? That's a different conversation to have. By the way, when a lot of people say $7.25, only about 82,000 people got paid $7.25 an hour last year. That's it. Only 82,000 people. And guess what, the average age of those 82,000 people were. - Probably 18-age. - Yeah, and FYI, if you're making $7.25, in your 30 years old, you're the problem. Not the person paying you that. If the value you only bring to the world, by the age of 30 is $7.25, what the hell did you do with 30 years of your life? Now don't get me wrong, I'm not talking about disability, I'm not talking about all. That's not what I'm, when I go to Walmart and I see them having hired certain people that have disabilities, I salute the company every time, because that's respect that they're willing to do that. I'm not talking about the exception. I'm talking about the other 95% that by 30, you're making $7.25, you're part of the problem. Go pick up a book, go take a class, go learn something. There's so many things available for us to find to improve our market value today. And I think a lot of the owners goes on them. I got a message yesterday. Look at this DM, guy sends me a DM. Every time I get these DMs cracks me up. Guy says, hey, can you send me $1,000? You're all, I said, if you send me $5,000 first. He says, very business man of you, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. I said, stop begging and create value instead. Building a fake body count to beg people for money is not only unattractive, but semi criminal. Be useful. He says, what's having a joke, geez. I said, life is not a joke. Stop wasting your life. I mean, this is like a real thing that we got going on. Make yourself useful. Some people say, why do you have a 20 something you're all on the podcast? The number one guy that has the biggest YouTube channels in his 20s. What's his name? Mr. Beast. Nobody cares about age nowadays. They care about value. Nobody does. Yesterday I was doing the, what do you call it when you go to school to meet the kids' teachers? What do they call that? Parent teacher. Parent teacher. What's that? And it's also an open house night to kick off the new year. Okay, so I went to school yesterday. And by the way, I had no idea. We didn't do this in our high school. Our oldest has eight classes. And it's 90 minutes of class. We didn't do 90 minutes of class. It was 50 minutes of class and L.A. Did you experience 90 minutes of class? Or 72. Yeah, so what is this 90 minute thing? I'm not used to. Anyways, so they do a class every other day. So you have four classes every day, but it's 90 minutes. Then another four classes the next day. It's 90 minutes. And they kind of rotate and they call it a orange day, whatever they give it. They give it different colors. Yeah, so I want to met the teachers yesterday and one teacher who was the history teacher. He's like, listen, the book I have here, your kids are going to be bored out of their minds. They're not going to like this book. Me and Jen look at each other. We're like this. You have any idea that Tiko reads that book for hobby. And he's in love with the book that they give him. He's going to love this history class. I came out at the end. I'm like, I freaking love these teachers. It was the idea of learning. We were to one lady with some Siberia said, I learned English in Siberia. I came to the States. I've been a professor for 22 years. She's got a YouTube channel with 22 hundred subscribers. You got to get obsessed with learning. You got to get excited about this phase of what you need to do. Last clip, I'll show you before we get to the next article is the following. Can you play that clip of coach Peppa Guardelia? You know, which one it is that I said, I want you to watch this here. And by the way, this applies to all of us. This is not just, you know, sports. Who's this guy? Peppa Guardelia is known. Guardiola is known as some people would call him the greatest coach of all time. This guy is coach Messi. He's coached the greatest one. He's soccer coach. Dude, this guy is bored. Let me tell you legend. We were trying to get him out of all to this year of not, if not last year. We invited him both times and both times yet again. Or else we would have had him out the vault. The mindset this guy has and what he's done. He's loved, admired and respected. Look what he says yesterday. Go for it. I'm fucking divorced for the most beautiful woman in your body is my wife. My ex-wife. I love her. Unbelievable. But we lost the passion. For many reasons, we lost the passion. I love her. Yeah, absolutely. She loved me yet. Did you play football? Did you play? Or something inside? What is a passion? In your life. What am I going to do? Do it with passion. I don't want to play. I want passion with passion. Did you not get to this podcast? This is why people love, love playing for this guy. Love and a passion thing applies in your business, in your marriage, in parenting, in your health, in your study, in a student, in faith, in every aspect of your life. So the minimum which are, in as luck, we want you to make $100 an hour. We want to help you make $1,000 an hour. We want you to get past the $25 an hour concept. So, but unfortunately, they're having these steps of conversations that's $25 minimum wage. You need to go out there and learn and earn it. You need to do your part to get to a point like that. Tom, I'll give you the final thoughts that I'm going to do. - Give it the final point. We're talking about $25 minimum wage. It was a $15 minimum wage here. We're talking about 2019. And that's what Bloomberg talked about. Forbes magazine wrote about it at that time and HR executive wrote about it at that time. The pace of adoption of kiosks in fast food accelerated 3x starting in 2019. Wanna know why? Because the fast food industry said, and I'm reading the quote, we need to make the minimum wage impact on us irrelevant. Otherwise, we will die and will not be able even to operate our franchises. So, they went to kiosks and went to automated kitchens, AI power drive-thrues, which we're recently discussed. All of that was on the doc in 2019, and they have been chasing it. And it's been eliminating jobs for teenagers because they've had it. So, when you're talking about the big company, the big company has got the money, like McDonald's, all the franchises, to go invest in these systems and guess what? It'll eliminate jobs. - Yeah, and again, we'll see what's gonna happen with this. I don't think this conversation's gonna go away. You said when he were 16 years old, a story came out. You guys remember Bernie Sanders, I wish it raised a minimum wage to $15, and then he realized he was paying his interns $13 an hour and that story came out and it ended very, very quickly. Let's go to the next story. So now, John said something. He said, "The socialist are exploiting "what's going on with affordability." And I'm gonna come to you first on this next story. In Florida, on Tuesday, Angie Dixon, Democratic Socialist, on Tuesday, primary in Florida. The question now, AP says, "Is can she win in November?" Democratic Socialist, Angie Dixon, one on a primary in Florida, let me go to the side of the other. Voters nominated, state representative, Angie Dixon, a Democratic Socialist over Alex Vindman, the moderate former national security office central to Trump's first impeachment and a shock upset she faces, faces a long shot challenge to Republican Senator Ashley Moody, appointed by Governor Ron DeSantis, after Marco Rubio became Secretary of State, Vindman raised about $16 million and spent $9 million. Nixon raised just shy of $1 million. So, the establishment Democrat raises $16 million. Nixon, the socialist raises $1 million. 16 to 1 and she beats the favorite of 16 to 1. Skip broadcast ads and targeted voters on social media. Back by influence, like children's education, Ms. Rachel and Representative Rashida Talib, and Ilhan Amar represent. Nixon ran a strong campaign I will be standing by her side in the fight against Ashley Moody. Vindman said after conceding, Trump gloated on true social. The most gratifying loss last night was that a real, treasonous, creep, Alexander Vindman, to a radical level lunatic, adding Vindman should be prosecuted. The defeat fits a pattern, impeachment era like figures. Al Green, Dan Goldman and Shree, Thunder, all lost primaries to the progressive this year. Still Nixon was weakest in South Florida's, large Latino community where left flank congressional candidates lost to moderate Tuesday. So, Jon, why do you think these democratic socialists running up against the establishment Democrats are winning? I think that progressive voters, they don't have confidence in the ability of like the establishment Democrat party to stop Republicans. I mean, they tried literally everything they could to stop Trump and MAGA. He still somehow manages to win the election again in 2024. And so now their anxieties are giving them a kind of permission to install, I think, further left more radical socialist type candidates because if the typical, you know, Joe Biden type Democrats, even though he's become extremely radical, can't deliver the utopia the way that they were promising to, then they're going to outsource that to people who maybe are a bit more radical in their rhetoric. They become very dangerous when they feel like they're back is against the wall. You know, they typically politically become much more radical on the street level, they become much more radical. And it's the job of the conservative to bring about some kind of order in society and give Americans a standard of living that makes them feel like, okay, this is working. And we don't have to entertain these other solutions which are the same. - Is there something to worry about? Like, what school did you go to? What college you go to? - University of Michigan. - How many liberals were there? Is it a 70, 30 liberal? Is that a fair breakdown? - Ann Arbor Michigan is famously one of the most liberal cities in the country. - Okay, so that was how long ago did you graduate? Four years ago, five years ago? - I'm actually there right now. - Oh, you're there right now. - Okay, when you're on campus, you're talking to, you're in a classroom. You're seeing them make the argument on the other side. What are you hearing? It's not fair. Is it a victimhood language? Is it the corporations are making too much money? Is it billionaires are getting too rich, trillionaires? What is the criticism? - To be honest with you, it's not as radical as I thought. I think that by the time kids arrive at college, they already have this stuff programmed into them. I was shocked actually, whether it's an econ class, or I'm in the class as mandatory class called race and ethnic relations you have to take. And it's everything you would expect. The level of disinterest from the average student shocked me. I thought everybody would be there, handing out miles, little red book or something, but nobody really cared. And so what that tells me. - Seriously? What the-- - This is Ad Michigan. This is a real school. - Which by the way, you just had to rest there from students who were there who were radical because they were threatening, or actually they were planning acts of terrorism against Zionist professors because they viewed them to be like insufficiently committed to the pro-Palestine cause or something. So this is like a school that is actively breeding radicals, but for some reason the median student isn't quite picking up on it, which tells me it's not so much college. It's like by the time you're there, your brain is already molded, if by the time you walk out of like a public high school in America, you already believe this stuff, like it's pretty much over for you, I think. And I want to get into that here in a minute time. Your thoughts on this. So give us a breakdown. You follow these polls very closely. - Yep. - Yeah, go through the whole thing. Byron Donald's Angie Dixon. What should people be looking for? - So Byron Donald's is basically, you're going to be a done deal for governor, unless something comes out on Donald's. Take a look at what happened in Kalshi. And by the way, this Kalshi prediction market. This is not a poll. This is the odds of success. Remember, that's how prediction works. So there's not a poll out there that's 93/7 on all the voters. What Kalshi has pulled here, take a look at what happened when she won. The odds for the Dems actually went down. In other words, the odds of success went down because of Nixon, the DSA candidate versus the other. Rubio consistently won 53/54/57. You know what those are? That's what Rubio got on his Senate. So the Rubio Senate train has been very consistent. He's been very handily winning his elections. Moody was his, he approved the choice. He liked the choice. And the governor DeSantis appointed her to the short term because Rubio became Secretary of State. So what you have right now, it looks like Moody, unless something very odd happens, is going to handily carry this at about 55/45, unless something weird happens. Because if you take a look at Florida, there's the law and order of Florida. And then there's the retired Florida. And the funny thing is, there are the Democrats that voted for Trump in 2020. Are the, excuse me, yes, 2020 Democrats that we look at in Florida, those are going to be with Ashley Moody because they want nothing to do with Nixon's policies. They're the what you call, remember what a Clinton column, the Blue Dog Democrats, that used to walk-- Oh, the Blue Dog. Remember that? The Democrats used to walk the other side. And so that's what's going on with her. She appears more radical. And the core dems do not like it. Moody should carry this. And Donald's, it's almost like he's running uncontested because he is also up against candidate that is just, when the broader debates happen and the things come out, it's not going to play well. I want to know what position his opponent is actually going to take. Who's the opponent? Donald's opponent. Oh, gotcha. Well, Donald's opponent as in the Democratic opponent. You know, you know, I have to really say this. And I'm going to continue saying this. Donald's is probably going to end up being a governor here. But the more guys like Donald's, avoid debates with guys like Fishback. You know what you do? The only reason he didn't want to do the debate isn't because of Collins or because of Renner. He didn't want to face Fishback. When you don't face guys like that, you know what I would do if I'm a Nick Fuentes? You know what I would do? And all the other guys, guess what I would do? You know what an easy layup you're giving me to say one thing. What's that one thing? He's afraid. They're scared. They're scared. And what does that do? You give the base of the younger guys to say I knew the establishment Republicans are scared. versus just debate the flipping topics and sit down. You are indirectly becoming the establishment of, I don't need to do it, I'm above you. That's exactly what the young people that are becoming groipers are going to a different direction are turned off by. Yeah, I'm too above this. We can't be doing that. We need to have this guy. You know when a lot of people say, why do you have such and such person on? Why do you have such and such person? Why do you sit down with this person? A week before I had Candace and Andrew Wilson on, I sat down with Ben Shapiro. And by the way, you know what the podcast went right after Ben Shapiro and Candace and Andrew Wilson, it was Joe Weapon. You know all that, the level of controversy and what it goes on. I think the conservative party, those that are the traditional Republicans need to look at it as let me talk to these guys to get in front of the young men to give a better argument instead of dodging those conversations. Let me get in front of them and have the conversation and say, hey, here's what I think you ought to consider doing something. Here's what a different approach to take because they're not going away. And FYI, they're just going to get bigger. This idea of they're going to be gone non-existent in a Euro to your delusional. You're delusional. You're buying your own hype. Yes, they were at dinner. Yes, they are tonight. What were two days But we're at dinner and I said something to Vinnie I said Vinnie, you know what's the one thing about life that nobody realizes? He says what I said no one is untouchable Even the movie of untouchable that was about who Alcapon Capone was touchable touched name me somebody That's not untouchable. Go ahead Mama Raleigh touchable. Who's untouchable? Jesus Christ taught murdered so still so the idea of We are, you know, we are ahead and we got this and we got that. That is a very very problematic strategy to take that's a temporary Strategy because you're avoiding the conflict when you avoid the conflict. There's a sect of Younger men sometimes, you know what guys want you know when sometimes we had one of our employees yesterday We had an issue with I sat down with her afterwards and I said hey What what's bothering you and she just opened up and I said so what don't and she we just went back in from one of my favorite employees And it wasn't an issue with me was an issue by the way the issue was so flip and small It was ridiculous and then I said is that it? Yeah, I said let me ask you is it on me? Or is it on you to bring that up? I guess it's on me to bring it up Well, I can't read your mind to bring it up and then we I said are we good good? We got a message that we figured it out. We have to time you know what people want my old my old son You know what he wants to do every now and I get home. Yes, what he wants to do every now and I get home He just wants to give him 20 minutes of just letting him feel to route Everything's on his mind Every night I have to hear about jujitsu kaisa. I have to hear about you know What happened in a scary movie horror movie and let me tell you in Western society and AP human geography I didn't even know what human geography AP was. I'm sitting in the class. I'm like, hey babe I'm gonna act like I know what I'm talking. What the hell is human geography letter on AP? Yeah, because when you say AP to me, I'm thinking why is this kid taking human geography of AP Armenian power? Why are they doing Armenian power human geography teaching Armenian gangster? I don't think in sheds is that's a good idea No, that was your major, right? What's your major? I'll pause. I'll come to you. So you've been a Florida your entire life. Yeah minus this Moment you lived in Addison Beach, but watching what's going on right now with a socialist like Dixon Come up. There's a do anything to you. You're like this is just noise. Nothing's gonna happen Total noise and I'll tell you why right now what's happening is you talked about establishment and that's something you're talking about And then you have these sort of anti-establishment candidates. You have to understand. There's levels to this thing There's a difference of this thing and I'll touch on Byron in a second The DSA has taken over the Democratic Party. I want to be super clear on that They've taken over they've done the Trojan horse thing and on the on the magazine of things You've had the Groiper America only crew. Try to do the exact same thing and do you want to know what happened to them? They got universally rejected by the party now at the same time I agree that they're not going anywhere and if you don't address those issues. Yep It could only fester and get longer and I'm not calling them a cancer I'm saying when you have a cancer you have to cut it out immediately or it will spread and what's happening in a Democratic party It has spread and I would say that maybe 50% let's say of the Democratic Party is now DSA There was a cancer growing in the after Charlie Kirk, especially was killed by Tyler Robinson allegedly The cancer started growing and the Maga establishment as weird as that sounds like now because they weren't the establishment 10 years ago Said no, no, no, no, no, we're not doing this nonsense. Let me give you some evidence. Dan Bilzerian Anti-Maga anti-Trump got smoked by allegedly not a great candidate Randy Fein you talk about fishback fishback got smoked And the reason that Byron Donald's in my opinion didn't want to debate him because he wasn't respectful He was genuinely racist Anti-Semitic and a just a hot air candidate Talented but did not have did not have the goods to actually deliver and the voters showed them the last thing Hang on, no, no, no, no, no, stay right there stay right there stay right there stay right there on this one That position is arrogant Whether you're right or wrong is a different story the guy got 14% 12% he got a hundred 40,000 But how much how much is a vote that he got fishback got 177 renner got 145 J Collins got 426 177,000 people voted for this guy why Florida why I'm not I'm not dismissing that this is I'm saying that he was rejected though It doesn't it wasn't close so then what you do is like for instance How do I feel about Nick Fuentes? What is my thoughts about Nick Fuentes? I'm not gonna put words well very talented Debater is very comfortable you saying whatever. I've said behind closed doors or in you said I'm not I you said he's if he's very good Speaker debater. He know he's smarter than I bring him here and talk to him. Well, you're a different breed of person It's not the point. You'll have a conversation like we are like this is a part right now with the conservatives have to sit there and listen to people What are you upset about? Half the time when you're running a company your job is to host the town hall and say what are you not happy with? It can we do some but what's your one rule when somebody comes on the podcast until you actually disrespect them You will be respectful until they disrespect you if someone's disrespecting you to your face Would you actually debate that first by the way if if I respect is a big thing you're right It is and that's why I said to Nick and he came he was very respectful But I also had the other guy from what was a young guy Thomas Russo and he was like even further than when Nick is that I mean, he's not even like but you know what I want to know why they're upset about it And and you know what a part of me understanding this is my country. I'm white. I'm a nationalist you came here You took jobs away from others. Okay, fair. That's a good argument that you're making. Let's see where the leak is there Or maybe there's a leak in my argument, but to me if you go into UFC if you go into boxing if you go into politics And you're worried about getting offended get the hell out of the business. I didn't say I didn't say offended this respected Wait, how many times a day this Trump get this respected You're in the big boy arena body. Don't get into this business. This is a nasty business go go go Roll and find clips about there's a guy that 90% of videos he does is about me I mean, I've had girls that were crazy, but I've never had any man be disinfatuated by me Yeah, but it's free market. Yeah, go make the clips like you so to me a part of it is as a part of it is If you're in the game if you're going into politics to debate. I'm not in that space I'm not raising my insane. I want to go But if you're raising your hand to say you're going to be the governor of a state You have to be willing to talk to the other guys short term. There won't be impact watch the impact in ten years Watch the impact in ten years. I agree and look what I'm saying Well, ultimately what I'm saying is this the the the democratic party like Republican fighting is actually at an all-time high right now It since since Trump because of the Charlie Kirk thing Yeah, and because of the allegations and made-up stories regarding the the assassination and a lot of it stemmed from that and then it's which stemmed from Israel But what what I'm ultimately saying is this the Democratic party not only are they not rejecting the DSA They're embracing it. Yeah Ilhan Omar mom Donnie. I'll say Ed from Michigan out there That's the new face of the party your right the Republican party is basically said hey Dan Bilzerian hey James fishback. Hey Oliver Oliver Larkin. Hey Thomas Massey. You're no longer welcome here You do have valid arguments, which we can discuss, but you as a candidate you got to go Yeah, and and by the way, there's a there's a difference like James worked hard I'm not saying he's not talent. I think Dan didn't Dan tried to use his massive follow-in to win But James did the work I agree so so you got to give Dan Bilzerian was the laziest candidate I've ever seen in my life Listen James and I may not be on the same page with policies, but I respect the hell out of the way that he works Yeah, he controls and he does his thing and and and the American and the Florida You know, you know what you know what the voters were like. Yeah, you know what? You know what Nick said on the podcast, and I think even made this comments a few weeks ago He says if there's one thing about Charlie Nobody worked like he did I asked him a question I said what compliment can you give to Charlie says dude? I can't work like he does is I respect the hell out of his work ethic So you you got to know long term there are some young cats that are willing to work their asses off and they're going to Exploit your arrogance and entitled attitude The way competition works the moment you get entitled Irrigant and you start thinking like oh, I already got this. You're gonna get your ass handed to you I agree capitalism capitalism has no sympathy for you and it could care less how old you are with skin color Yeah, how rich you are how wealthy or it could care like I've even following what Nick is saying about Charlie these days No, he's been very complimentary of Charlie. He'll always add look We didn't get along. We were not friends. I wouldn't see it either. I but Compliment compliment compliment compliment compliment compliment. Yeah, and all the fake fake stories out there Don't add up. I'm getting credit for that and with this with this whole thing I think that the bigger picture is this DSA thing because think about it everybody Chuck Schumer's backing Adam all this You know, Vindman but by the you guys remember who Alexander Vindman is from Ukraine Lieutenant Colonel he was behind the whole Russia collusion hoax freaking impeachment Yeah, uh didn't want to out the whistleblower who didn't have first hand of the call that they tried to imp you want to talk about the Deep State operative. I love what Trump said about him. Think about that $16 million guys didn't do not she had $975,000 and she won and this again goes back on the Democrats You guys have the deep state people with all the money and everything but nobody wants them and this goes the blame of the Democrats They're going after this DSA nonsense path and on a national level. We haven't seen anything nationally yet This is all just local Governorship having wait until 2028 when a. O. C. freezing her eggs now she's single everything. I want to see what on the national level. If all that hate. I'm going to say this to you, Vinny. Yeah. The best thing going on with Republicans right now is the fact that socialists are beating Democrats. There's nothing better than that happening. Amen. If the Republicans, we did it. We talked about Kuznos the other day where Kuznos went from zero to 5,000 and then all of them, they lost it all. They're down to 132 different stores and subway crush them and they got 40,000 stores. And at one point, everybody would go to Kuznos and Mesquite Check-in, you know the broccoli cheese it was about. But you know what happened to them? Even though they were served. Hey, guess what? Kuznos, I know you want to take out subway. We're going to give you a wild card. You want to believe what happened. What? The face of the guy subway, Jared, just got caught. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Underage kids. Yeah. That was like the greatest layup in Kuznos dropped the Ethan ball. Yeah. And they went bankrupt in 2014. How nobody has any clue how this happens. But the Republicans are being handed a beautiful layup. If you don't have a solution for guys his age on what to do with affordability and it's just lip service. If you don't have solution for his age, socialists have a shot at winning. You can't get arrogant and entitled. I agree. I want to go to story to John right now. So John, the Duffy, Shandhafi clip and compost their wife, his wife, um, story comes up about them talking about their daughter going to Harvard. And I'm going to come to you with this one here. This was viral all over the place. Go forward guys. To Harvard. Yeah. Well, me and mom can say no. Catholicism to us is everything. It's the basis of our marriage. It's the basis of our family. So I'm nervous about the idea of Paloma going to Harvard. We spend a lot of time nurturing and providing formation for our kids, giving them an environment where they are steeped in faith and values. And so the idea of dropping her off at a place that would undermine that or try to undo all those things makes me worried. And again, I don't want them to get one viewpoint. I want them to get a lot of different viewpoints. But I don't want them fed only one viewpoint this contrary to the way my kids were raised. So I think my problem is we have thought about how we raised you and how hard we've worked to, I think, raise what is a remarkable young girl. If I send you there, I think what happens is they have professionalized, figuring out how they can take good young girls like you and I think corrupt their minds. You don't have to believe what I believe. You don't have to have the political viewpoints that I have. But I do think it's important that you make those choices for yourself and you have a fair representation of what they are. And I don't think the Harvard's of the world give you that kind of well-rounded picture. So you're in University of Michigan right now, okay. Do you agree with them? Should they be this worried about sending their daughter to Harvard? No, I disagree. And this may be controversial, but I think that oftentimes these things can be solved by maybe having more involved parents. I think that, you know, if you do a good enough job raising your kid, you send them off to some school where they're going to teach them things that are liberal or immoral. Kids, it's going to run off them like water on a raincoat. And frankly, they don't even rely so much on the information. They rely more on the moralizing. So again, I'm shocked. I mean, these classes expecting them to tell me about how like evil the founding fathers are. And we read these primary texts from before the country was even established. They talk about how the founding fathers were very skeptical of democracy, very skeptical of giving the franchise to people who didn't own land. So they had all of these attitudes. They were very anti-democratic and there was never any so therefore they're evil. Like they counted on the incumbent moralizing of the students like going into it, thinking, oh, that's scary. There was no challenges to and so this is wrong because obviously XYZ, they're giving you the information accurately and they're counting on the cultural programming to make you interpret it in a way that's already negative. And if you do a good enough job, I think in the household, you can send your kid anywhere and now they go to Harvard, they now have a degree from an Ivy League school and they're going to be able to use that to benefit themselves to do something great. And there's the risk I guess that they become a little crazy. But again, you know, there are playing some of the best actually most conservative, most effective people are right now working at, I think the college Republicans at Harvard, like very smart guys. And so there is debate. There is that kind of stuff going on. I think that sometimes parents are just maybe a little bit too relaxed and then they give their kid freedom for the first time. They come back to Thanksgiving dinner and all of a sudden someone tried to teach them something for the first time in their lives. And so it resonated with them and it's like, where were you? You know, were you sitting down with your kids asking them about what they're learning at school, taking them to church? Or did you just kind of sit at the lazy boy and then for the first time in your kid's life, someone tried to connect with them and all of a sudden it worked and you're like blaming the college? I think that's misguided. Very good feedback. What did your parents do when you were about to go to college? How did they shape your mindset from 14 to 18 then off to college? I was always expected that I was going to go to school and then I decided I wanted to kind of go work for myself and do social media and content creation. They'll tell the story now that they supported that decision. That is not true. When I told them I dropped out, they were both very up because my dad, you know, he built his own business and I thought that he would understand. They're both conservative. Yes. Yes. And they did not. They did not support it. And my dad though, he has the integrity to acknowledge that now. My mom not so much. I was always your biggest cheerleader. So funny. We love your mom and dad. He just, he's joking with you, but maybe he's not. So, okay, Tom, what would you say? You know, you guys, your daughter, Bayley had 1560 on her SATs at a 1600 high GPA, capable of going to any school. What decision did you guys make you and your wife? Well, we were talking to her early on about, you know, liberal colleges and she was on the board for golf scholarship at Georgetown. But as she chose her major and then said, you know, I really have discovered that if you go play golf at Georgetown, they want you to get a polyside degree or take something that doesn't have a lot of rigor to it so you can dedicate yourself to the scholarship they're giving you to play golf. And so there was that whole mechanism of the student athlete. But we were, I was a little concerned about, you know, the liberal side of it. And we looked at it and I said, you know, my daughter is strong and she's going to be able to roll through it. But I didn't want her to go study just liberal arts at an Ivy League school. We looked at Wharton and we looked at their balance program because Wharton has an undergrad program. It's not just a grad school at Penn. And ultimately, she said when she settled on her major, then we started looking at the schools and she selected where she selected, which was, you know, 42% conservative moderate. It's like only about 5-10% conservative and about 29% moderate. This is rice and everything else is liberal or very liberal. So, but you said about water off your back, Bailey is strong. And Bailey is not. Were you worried though? Were you worried that even they could get somebody to like Bailey? I was, yeah, you're always worried, but what percent of you worried? I've never been worried about Bailey. Yeah. I wasn't worried, but I was, I recognized the influence is going to be there and I was like, okay, how many trips can I make? What can I do? How can I stay close as a family? How do you keep the dialogue? Because they live incredibly busy lives. Yeah. So ultimately, her major and where she selected worked out really well, but we had a lot of conversations about this. And we also had a lot of conversation about what we would see on campus with the, with the cancel culture and what was happening at that time. Remember, remember what year this is? She's a junior now. So what was going on three years ago? Sure. Yeah, there was a, you know what? Don't be Jewish on campus. Was more of a worry than, than don't be conservative on campus because there were, you know, Jewish. You wouldn't you became Jewish? No, no, no, no, I'm talking about you. I didn't think she would do it. I'm so excited for Adam of all people. You shouldn't be joking. Jewish students at Columbia were being actively persecuted with fears of physical harm walking across campus in New York City and the United States of America, right? Adam's self hating you. Okay, well, I mean, let's talk to you to me. You know, when I talk to the kids and we talk about what college to go to, Martin, our job is to shape their mindset when we took him to, he went to y'all for three weeks at a camp and the person that signed him in was a transgender. When he's getting his ideas, he's just looking, he's like, what's going on? I said, buddy, I prepped you. It's gonna be a little weird, man. You're going to all go a complete different environment. And he was 13 years old and he's kind of like, hey, you need a little bit of that friction to come back in process, come back in process, come back. One of the great things about a sales leader, if you, you know, I love sales anybody that's in the sales business, I think if salespeople stop tomorrow, the world would stop. But great sales leaders, you know what they do with rookie salespeople? Here's what they do. You go and run three appointments today. At the end of the night, a great sales leader will make the phone call to you at 10 o'clock and we'll say, walk me through what happened in the appointments today. What objections did they give you? How did you overcome it? What did you say? Where did you get stuck? Let's roleplay. You be them. I'll be, I'll be the salesperson. You be the customer. And you roleplay. So when the kids go through something, how was your day? What happened? What came up? Here's what they said. What do you, so what was your response? What did you get stuck on? This is what that one of the guys said this. And what do you think about that? Because they told me in the history that George Washington was a slave owner and how do you feel about that? What a, so you need to have that follow-up. If you don't have that conversation with them, they could get lost. Adam, what do you do with your seven kids? I went in my seven kids. Well, I agree with our friend John here. Listen, if you, you go to Harvard, if you've worked your tail off in high school, and you've done so well for yourself, and you get admitted to Harvard, you go to Harvard. But if you're that father, you have that conversation, hey, I want you to prepare for this. There's multiple levels with this. By the way, we're talking about Sean Duffy, who was the current transportation secretary, I believe. Who was the former, Pete Buttigieg, Pete Buttigieg. Where did Buttigieg go to college to Harvard? So there's some Some stuff going on there behind the scenes. Meanwhile I looked up where Sean Delphi went into a small private Catholic school in Minnesota. So there's some there's some behind the scenes there But here I'll tell you a story you talked about Jewish kids going to Harvard. You know my friend Keith. Yes, he's got an FU right stud Absolute stud of a kid six four Built like I like just an absolute stud. I said you're Jewish You're a stud you go to Harvard. How's Antoni Semitism on campus? He goes yeah, it sucks Nobody's messing with me though, bro. I'll kick their ass. I go. What do you mean? He goes liberal weirdos? Think I'm scared of these guys. I was like oh, I didn't think about that. He goes Don't take ten of them to mess with me. I was like wow look at that He goes let me tell you the upside of Harvard. You have no idea who you're gonna meet here He goes it's the best of the best of the best from around the world. I have billionaire son friends I got investor friends. He goes as soon as I graduate boom. I'm making millions He goes you're not gonna liberal indoctrinate me or have me a hate being or like not proud being Jewish I'm gonna show it to the gangster max is I don't know probably 21. Now. It's not magic It's just no you know it keeps nephew. Oh nephew. I haven't met him Yeah, but when you go you know you say you are the sum of the five people you hang out with the most I've met some of his friends absolute studs. He goes it's bad, but it don't get Don't get fooled By some some of the stuff that's going on here. Yeah, you can become who you want to become all right You can get into Harvard. You go to Harvard. Just don't go woke. You go broke. Okay. All right So having said that let's get into the next story next round when he get into is What's going on with you guys following what what people are saying nowadays with this Lindsey Clancy story or you got I'm sure your phone was ready. Vinnie is as it's left in 40 When I bring it up and John, I know you have something to say about it. People are mad like you don't know and she's this and it was the husband And I'm like well you what the hell are you? Let's go through some of this stuff because Candace also commented on this I want to play that clip as well And I'm going to get some of your thoughts on where people are I with this so to do a quick recap She asks her husband to leave He leaves one by one by one with a gym. What do you call it? Well work out band work out band Yeah, she she ends up take killing her eight month old her three-year-old and a five-year-old if I'm getting it wrong Correct me there and then she was on a bunch of SSR you know SSRI's medication prior to that even went to a mental hospital Then they released her saying she's okay. Yeah, she's gonna be fine and yes She's got some stuff, but she's dealing with but she's gonna be okay. They let her go then she comes back this happens now People are protesting women are protesting outside saying it's not her fault and she tried to kill herself Like when the husband walked in pat next lit. She tried to kill her. She jumped off the house She's got a second she tried to jump out the second story of her house, and so they're filming themselves hanging out of windows Yeah, you know, let's play some of the clips. Let's play some of the clips and I want to come to you guys So here's one. I'm gonna play three or four clips. So this is one of the clips go for it What's going on here? These are people supporting her thousands of women that are supporting her yeah Okay, right outside so they're supporting her to say it's not her fault and she kind of went through it Okay, can we go to that one one of the white lives of somebody that's Describe in what happens and why it's not her fault you know one of the clips Go ahead Like the system failed her the system failed her I don't know if I'll be in hell make her feel any better Just wanted to support Lindsay and just say it could be you know one of my sister in laws It could be one of my best friends and it could be me. So just here to support we are hearing her We see that you're capable of killing three kids and I really do believe that she went into a state outside Coses Glanty's supporters call her attorney Kevin Reddington a champion of women's rights Is she aware of this support and what does she think of this support? I'm gonna go in and see her right now. I'm sure this she is and if she isn't she won't be what do you think about she's so beat up and just so Sad this will really help her out I think tell her we love her the crowd of about two to 300 people lined the road as Lindsay Clancy was brought into the courthouse. Okay, so I hope can you pause it and then if you I think you guys sent Clip from Candace if you want to play that as well and here's Candace's position go for it I made my thoughts clear on this the moment that she Was arrested the moment that it made the news Lindsay Clancy is obviously not guilty. There are a fleet of doctors who should be imprisoned for what they put her on I regularly speak out against big pharma They get away with murder all the time and in this case they are getting away with the murder of Really the her three children, but also completely destroyed her life when Lindsay Clancy in my opinion is not guilty She was put into a an intentional psychosis When she probably just needed to give her kids away for a weekend to get better But they constantly give you these drugs that do not make things better and the cocktail of ten pharmaceuticals that she was on is absolute madness Absolute madness. I mean you can pause it and then go to the last one with this lady and then We'll get into it go for the one that you guys are telling me you want to show I haven't seen this one So no, no the one you just texted me the one you just texted me that's her on the bottom right guys This one you just literally you just texted me to say this is the one you want to play Is that the one or is it a different one? Clancy a Massachusetts mother of three strangled her three kids to death in her basement with exercise bands They were five three and eight months old her trial is this week She's being charged with first-degree murder in the question is whether or not she was undergoing a psychotic You can pause right here. So John. Where's your position now with this? So on one end a lot of these women that are following saying it's not her fault It's the doctor's fault. You know, they medicated her We're trying to find a solution for this and then some are saying wait a minute This she just killed her three kids. What do you mean it's not her fault? What's your position? Yeah, I don't know if this has been your guys experience But in my experience, I tend to find that women struggle with accountability sometimes And so I think that you know it makes sense that they would all want to take to the streets and say that they sympathize with her because they could see themselves doing that Which if you're a mother that's kind of a disturbing thing to to say if you have children You know putting that idea into their mind that like you perhaps could have had a bad day and killed them But I think she's obviously guilty I think that everything people are trying to do here is absolve her of guilt by saying it's the system's fault Which the subtext of that is it's like the male dominated system or something all of the doctors who wrote her Those prescriptions were female doctors. She was also doctor shopping specifically for medications like all the doctors They gave it to her female doctor. Yeah, she was so not really she was going out of her way to get these medications And then she was also getting them I believe from if not all like primarily female doctors and people who are in psychosis You can see bodycam footage of this they try to fight police officers if she were actually in like a psychotic episode She would have not waited for her husband to leave she wouldn't have commanded him believe She would have tried to take on her entire family and then also to you mentioned she tried to commit suicide I don't know if I buy that I think that maybe she murdered her three children and then she got into a situation where she realized what she had done And she felt remorse because the cuts that she'd made on herself had stopped bleeding by the time the husband came back The way that she'd like cut her neck wasn't like that bad and even the medication she took was found to be at like Sustainable levels in her system. So her attempt to cut herself and her attempt to overdose on drugs Doesn't seem to be indicative of someone who clearly is able to take life It seemed like she was kind of doing a half measure or something perhaps to justify this. I was just psychotic I didn't mean to because she knew at that point that was her only legal defense Vinnie so okay, and I I agree with John to a certain extent and and I want everybody to understand this and we all know this mental Illness is real and I'm not a woman so I don't know but post pardon psychosis depression All that is real and mothers who are suffering they obviously deserve compassion treatment and help but compassion And you know how we are about accountability cannot mean you abandon that you cannot abandon accountability and this is what bothers me Pat about the Whole situation heard the fence says post-partum psychosis explains how a loving mother could strangle three of her children But guess what millions and millions of people around the world suffer from mental illness Millions hear voices they have horrific thoughts. They never murder anyone. Okay, and they're on all all types of drugs Okay, milk mental illness cannot automatically erase your moral responsibility and Pat in our search to find out Lindsay and what happened in this or that you know who we can't find out about forget about are those three kids, okay? That's who you do stop all this nonsense Korra Dawson and Talon, okay for four minutes She's strangling one and the other ones are sitting there watching mommy I understand all the guys I get it I get it and we have friends here that have wives and they've been through and they have family members Do not forget about these three freaking kids that had the worst Last moments on this earth in their life, okay? They should be alive They should be able to grow up go to school fall in love and have families of their own, okay? Those lives matter All right, so we can have compassion for this mental illness without excusing evil We can show mercy without abandon injustice and whatever explanation ultimately comes out in this courtroom Okay, it should never erase what happened to these three innocent children put all that nonsense aside God rest their souls because I know where they are right now, but don't forget about them That's what I have to say about that Amen to that. I don't need to say anything more than that the just the prayers to the grandparents the friends the family the other little kids are at school That went to classes, you know went to kindergarten with the older one Then he's not there anymore and they got to explain that to these little kids of what happened to their little friends Yeah, Vinnie God bless you amen There are three things going on here and all three of them, you know are of the deep concern number one Postpartum is real and the person people that are out there trying to raise attention for postpartum so it can be treated properly or out there using this as a flag. Second thing, SSRIs and the pharmaceutical industry that is out there that wants to invent new drugs for profit, that's what they do. They're out there and there's a group out there saying wait a minute, the pharmaceutical industry, the SSRIs and the cocktails are being inappropriately prescribed and it's creating problems here. There's that camp. And then there's the camp that is like, you know, was she competent to stand trial or not? Or was she insane? We go through immense amount of testing in this country before we grant the insanity defense. And so, you know, was she insane? Was she not insane? Is she capable of standing trial? She's accountable. But the other two camps, I believe that the postpartum people mean well and they're trying to raise awareness for it, but they're using this case as a flag. See, we told you, and then you have the people over there that are the doctors should be in prison. And by the way, that's the Candice Camp. The Candice Camp is, look at what these physicians were prescribing, look at the drugs they're using, look at the cocktail that's out there, the doctors should be in prison. That's their camp. And so, this has become this big lasagna pattern where everything's kind of mixed together. It's is she insane or not? Do you believe postpartum? Yes. Do you got to get treatment and you got to get investment for that to help? And then it's the cocktail being in it. Not a perfectly administered camp. I actually think Candice has a point here. And I'll explain why. This is not a black and white issue. This is not guilty, innocent. There's a lot of nuance here. And I didn't think that I would even go deep on the story, but I did. What I realized is that the postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis are not the same thing at all. Depression, anxiety, sadness, all the fears that come with that, all that kind of stuff. Psychosis, it's like you're taking crazy pills. There's voices in your head. There were voices in her head telling you kill your kids. There's voices doing this. Now, where I think Candice has a point, look, I'll just come out and say I think Candice is dead wrong about Charlie, dead wrong. On this, she has a point. With this cocktail of drugs, this lady was on Kalatapin, Azada bin, Adada bin, Azanix. And the doctors are prescribing this. And knowing that she is on all these pills, what could go wrong with a person who's clinically depressed or has psychosis with all these pills? What could possibly happen? What we found out would happen? Three of her kids are dead. So the doctors are going to have some accountability here. That's all good with that. Now, here's where I'll land this plane. Do I think that she's going to be convicted of first degree murder? I don't think so. Will it be manslaughter or kid slaughter? I think so. But Adam, that mental, I'm sorry, but that mental illness, you can't erase what she did, Adam. And this is all I'm going to say for the last time. Imagine being eight months, three years old and five. I don't know the order of how she killed them. And you're watching mommy. I don't care. I'm with you. You're killing. And so accountability, Adam, there's so many people out there that are batshit crazy every day that hear stuff. They don't go through with it. You won simple question. Yeah. And I think it's something this Pat would do. What percentage do you think this was her willfully doing this? And what percentage was it the drugs? I think it was, I think it was a, like he said, the greatest cocktail. I don't know percentage, which is in your opinion. This is all just opinion. I say, say what percentage? What's her doing at what percentage was caused because of taking the drugs? 70, 30. She was, she's the one that did it. Most part of the party. I'm with the 30. It's mostly her. Yeah. Mostly that the pressure 30% to do this. I see it kind of inversely. Well, and again, I don't know what that is. That's your opinion. How many people take SSRIs? Can you pull up how many people take SSRIs? Oh, believe me. I'm not going to defend the over-medicated community. No, what I'm saying to you is how many people take the basic way to do the math on this is how many people in US take SSRIs? But can I give you one more please? Yeah, of course. How many people take this many SSRIs? How many people are taking 10 pills at a time? But I heard she was, but she wasn't taking all 14 in her all 10. She was prescribed all these things. She was dosing them herself too. So she wasn't taking all of them that she was prescribed. And also, I'm pretty sure when you get these prescriptions, you have to answer the doctors. Are you taking any other medication? So maybe they were over prescribing. She could have lied. But then is that not her fault? She chose to then lie. But then I agree with that. So I think that you know. And by the way, just when a few things, husband was well off. He made good money working from home. Family was supportive. Had access to Nanny, allegedly, all these things that are in place that she's going through this. And you know, you're like, this is the one thing that is probably nobody is in more pain right now. Of course, the three kids, they're no longer with us. Imagine being the husband. And what are you replaying? You know what you're replaying? Why did I leave her alone with the kids? - Non-stop. - If you know your wife or anybody in the family is dealing with something like this, imagine it's like, why did I leave? He's going to, by the way, he's going to replay that for the rest of his life. - And I'm not even putting this out there. There's a chance he might be on suicide watcher. Now, are you kidding me? Your entire life was evaporated. - So in a 20 minute run to the convenience store? - Yeah, I don't know. I mean, when you get issues like this that happen, you have to be very careful to not put the onus on the individual. Because if you don't put the onus on the individual, other people will look at us and be inspired to say, well, I did, and it was a my fault. It was because of what you gave me. - For sure. - You have to be very, very careful with messaging of what some people can take this in. You know, it's like, why did I walk out of the movie Joker? Because the Joker's a killing the capitalist. You become a hero and then Luigi Manjone. He becomes a hero and look what he's got going on today. He's like, yeah, I did kill the guy. I'm telling you, I did kill the guy. What are you going to do about it? I did. Here's what I did. Yeah, Manjone. Well, defending him. - And no, but you think Luigi's going to be the last one doing that? - No way. - Watch what's going to happen next few years. Watch what's going to happen next few years. So you just got to be careful with the messaging and how you're allowing people to have an alibi. I lost a friend and I went to the dentist I kept giving him Vicodin. And the guy that was selling him the Vicodin. I went up to that kid. I know his name till today. And he would buy this from the dentist at $4 a pop. He would buy the Vicodin from. And he sold it to my guy. And my guy took it and he passed away. Took 50 pills of Vicodin one night and he was done. And I took the Vicodin and I took the Vicodin out of his hands in the back of a shaky restaurant in Glendale. That visualization never goes away. So I also put, you know, a fair amount of responsibility on these doctors and what they're doing on the sign. A lot of these guys need to lose their licenses. That's incredible. There's a lot of these people that are doing that. They need to, there needs to be examples made of these guys losing their license. - That's essentially what Candles are saying, though. - That part I'm with, but we have to make sure we're measure to put the onus on the individual and not have an out because somebody else will step up and say, that's why I did that and do it. It was a my fault. It was a my fault. So we just, we have to be very, this is a very, very sensitive topic that we're going through. Okay, let's go to next story. Next story I want to get into is a story of Sophie Cunningham. Okay, so Sophie Cunningham hints at WNB Commissioner shake up as she goes after Kathy Engelbert. If you guys got the clip in the back, if you want to get that prepared, I'll read the story and then we'll go to the clip. Indiana FIFA Guard, Sophie Cunningham, suggested WNB Commissioner Kathy Engelbert's job could be open up for this season. Let me know if you guys found that clip on X. There's a clip on this on X. If you want to find it, you do, you do have a person in power who is bold, who is confident, who wants to be the best for the players and not maybe for themselves all the time. Cunningham told USA Today, so I do feel like as a whole, that could be a position that's maybe open at the end of the year, but that's not my call. Let me read that one more time. I do feel like as a whole, that could be a position that's maybe open at the end of the year. What are you talking about? Demi's the Commissioner of Persistions may be open at the end of the year she added. Kathy Engelbert's done a lot of good things, but with where our league is trying to go, I feel like you just want someone who also wants that. That's up to the NBA Commissioner Adam Silver at the end of the day. Sophie Cunningham is calling out directly saying, Adam, at the end of the day, you're the top press. You got to make a decision. Silver was non-committal at NBA Summer League in mid-July. I think Kathy continues to do a strong job building that league, while noting we'll have ongoing discussions about the future looks like. He praised the tremendous progress under Engelbert, including contentious, March, CBA, and six expansion teams to the 2030. Engelbert has drawn fire over player relationship on social justice handling with Minnesota, link star, Nefisha, Collier, also voicing this pleasure time. Why is this so important that a superstar like Kate and Clark is the superstar, but nobody is getting more voice and hurt on our opinions than Sophie. Katie, maybe the superstar, Sophie's the voice. Spokesperson for a lot of these people that don't have the courage to say it. Why is this so important time? Because I think there's one word about Cunningham's position, authentic. And the second word I put under there is fair. She's been authentic and fair. She's not been bombastic. And people are seeing the authenticity. Even Caitlin Clark has kind of stepped back from some things that she could have showed us head, or taken a position on, and she want to be non-committal. Where Sophie Cunningham is not. And she's like, hey, this is here. [BLANK_AUDIO] statement by Sophie Cunningham is very, very clear. And by the way, what's even more clear is, Pat, you understand it as a leader. Adam Silver has been non-committal. And you know why he can be non-committal? You know what the expiration date on Angler's contract is? - Who's contract? - Kathy. - What? - December 31st, 2026. He doesn't have to say anything. He can let it roll out. Her contract's up at the end of the year. He doesn't have to get into a media fire storm. He can get to the end of the year. He can decide what they're going to do. Put somebody else there. And so, and by the way, I don't blame him. But to your point on her, she's authentic and non-bombastic, Pat. And that's why people-- - I know very little about the WNBA. - I thought for sure, you're like a die-hug of the event. - Bro, the biggest sport in the world. - Wait a minute, where are you at? - Where are you at? - I just, but I was thinking about this the other day. And it's almost as if this was a plan, Tom. Like an attempt to bring some attention to a sport. Yes, they're making the money, but it's just unwatchable. Look at the attention, guys. This is, I think, with the fourth week, we're talking about it. We have so many issues that we talk about. They're bringing this. They're doing that. Transgenders this, all this type of situation. I think this might be a perfect, like a real, purposeful, ploy to bring people and eyeballs and everything. And you know what? I wouldn't be surprised if they actually let some biological men come on that core, because at least it would make it watchable. I tried, I'm not even joking. I tried to watch a couple of minutes. And just watching, what's her name? Reese, what's her name? - Angel Reese. - Angel Reese laying it's such. - Some people call this, she's like the Jordan of-- - Yeah, the Jordan, I think it was Aries Spears. He said something like she looked like a baby giraffe trying to stand like, you know, they can't even move. I think it's all a play because it's unwatchable. But it's like, the attention that they're trying to get is unbelievable. I respect Sophie Cunningham because time, what's the word that you said? - Authentic and fair. - And there's two words too. I'm gonna add on top of that. Common sense. If you have male genitalia and you were born a male, this all started. Go try to play in the NBA. That's your job, okay? Go for that. And this is unbelievable that none of them, 'cause they're in this umbrella. But you know the Democrats always say, we have a big tent, we have a big tent. This LGBTQ tent, they can't go against the grain. They can't go against it. And I think it's absolutely ridiculous. - Well, it's not about Kathy. They got to make a decision and Pat pointed it out last time when we were talking about this. - Believe it. - If they got together and said they couldn't figure out what a woman was, they couldn't figure it out. Wait a minute, tennis chose one way. The USOC doping committee chose one way. The international IOC chose one way. All of these organizations, WTA, chose one way. They've all chosen something, right? And they're not all unified. They've made a decision about trans or trans athletes with things, they've all decided. Whereas the WNBA goes in a room and they figure out nothing in eight hours of debate. And it's like, guess what? You make a statement here and Pat made a prediction. Pat's prediction on the AOC was pretty good. His prediction is, you know what? I wouldn't be surprised if all of a sudden for, if they take a stand one way or the other, what was it you said Pat, you wouldn't be surprised. - If there's men playing. - That suddenly have to retire. - I've got to worry about that they have to retire. A sudden retirement. So. - I have a different perspective. - Go ahead. Follow the money here, guys. Do you know what the average W-A-NBA salary was last year? 80,000. - Yeah, this is before the Katelyn Clark, before the Katelyn Clark, what do you think it is? - Contracts. - 125. It's almost a half a million dollars. - Oh, damn. - These women are making money now. Okay, here we go. - For a layup last year. - So there's a lot of money coming in here. So follow the money, guys, for a second. Now, the average length of a sports career is three to five years. So get the money when you can, ladies, 'cause some of these ladies are gonna be absolute nobody's with a couple million bucks in their pocket. Let me tell you why I think Sophie coming in is brilliant. 'Cause she says, look, I'm a decent player. I'm better looking than I am at, than I have skills. She's looking at people like Riley Gain, she's looking at people at Sage Steel and goes, what am I gonna do in five years when I'm done with basketball? I could do whatever the hell I wanna do. I'm gonna create a market for myself. I wanna be a congresswoman, boom. I wanna start a business, boom. Who's not gonna invest in Sophie Cummding and his podcast? We would. So what I think is she's looking at the lay of the market and goes, just keep doing this. She's gonna end up making tens of millions dollars, not even from basketball. Now, let me give some unsolicited advice to any other pretty black girl in the WMBA. Be different. Don't follow the crowd. Go be a pretty black girl in the WMBA and say, you know what? I agree with Sophie. No dudes in the league, no chicks with dicks. And let's, and watch how many people follow this person. These women, for a very short period of time, are in an incredible position to make an actual difference. For themselves, or possibly the league, you know I feel about the WMBA. Garbage product, garbage in, garbage out. But for the black girl who wants to be the new Sophie coming in, it's for yours for the take. Let's see if they have the balls. But you're not saying that her initial, so I think Sophie's genuine and she's authentic that she started this whole. Oh, 100% genuine saying you're saying keep going because you're not, you can capitalize on it. I think that she might have not been a big picture thinker, but now she has to be. There's too much money on the line and too much opportunity for someone. Let's go to next story. Next story is a weird story. Well, you know, this whole Grand Theft Auto 6 is about to come out and it's going a little bit crazy out there. Army unit offers four-day pass. They call it a Danza. To play Grand Theft Auto 6 as re-enlistment incentive. This is a CBS news. What a crazy story, but I love this story. An Army battalion at four-store churches, often I think that's an AIT base, is often active duty soldiers. A four-day pass to play Grand Theft Auto 6 as a re-enlistment incentive time to the game's November 19th release. 20 soldiers in a ninth brigade engineer battalion part of the third infantry division have already chosen it about 130 are eligible. Soldiers must re-enlist for two to six years between August 1st. And November 14th, the idea was a unique incentive program that connects to what soldiers are interested in. Lieutenant Colonel Angel Tomco, a third infantry division spokesperson said the incentive isn't service wide, but could expand the game set in a fictional Miami with the series first female lead, follows 2013 GTA 5. The Army's courtship of gamers isn't new. After missing its recruiting goal in 2018, the service launched in eSports team around Call of Duty, Fortnight and Legal Legends and send recruiters to gaming conventions. In 2019, Major General Frank Muth gave a then overseen recruiting command said gaming skills overlap with Army jobs. It's the decision making, it's the ability to take in a lot of information quickly. And to be able to make a decision, it's about teamwork. Vinnie, would this have convinced you to stay in the airport? - No, but listen. - Would that have worked for you? - No, but you know what? - Vinnie might go back in now. - I remember the day, 'cause I was in during 9/11. They did stop loss because I was supposed to get out when 9/11 happened and the Bush administration basically does this thing called stop loss where they're like, we can't afford to lose anybody. You guys are staying. I tried to stay basically, not against my will, but I was like, America, I'm staying as a New Yorker. But when it was done, there was no wake up call. There was it, no, I just was at my desk in a Colonel Comspat, they give me a contract. They go, hey, Oshana, six years, $60,000 bonus. Take it, take it or leave it. And I'm not, you can remember, I was kicking butt in the Air Force. And I don't know what it was. I didn't talk to my mom, nothing. I just went, you know what, sir, I think I'm gonna go to Hollywood and chase my dream of being an actor. And they were like, what'd you say? Like what? And then I got under investigation. He's smoking weed and all that stuff. But this is actually, it's kind of genius, Pat. It's actually pretty good because they're saying, like, hey, give us two years of your life. We'll give you a long weekend for GTA. But my thing is, they better at least go in the game for free. Are you not gonna throw in the game? Do they get to keep the damn game? But I mean, listen, the numbers are down for the freaking enlistment, anything. Anything to get people to join? How many people already joined Pat? How many people? At of 130 eligible people, I think four people joined. - That's what we need. I heard it was, I heard it was 20. - Okay, so then let's change it. - It wouldn't, it wouldn't make me. - What if it was a pound of weed instead of the 60,000? - Tom would do it. - Tom is, what do you mean? - What do you mean, Tom? - Tom's like, over it. - Cram is plenty for that. - Tom would have re-enlisted for the rest of his life. - Well, Brigadier General elsewhere, but probably still be a good guy. - Position on this. - Those are the guys you want. You want the killers. You want the guys who were into the violent video games. We've waited 15 years for this game, I think. So they may even take the contract, go back for six years and come back and GTA VI might not even be out yet. They might go into like decade two of developing that game. And I heard they leaked it or something, which maybe that's like some kind of foreign operation, seeing that this could be such a successful program for the US military. They're like, we're just going to leak it so anyone can play it. You lose your recruitment. - I mean, listen, it's the hottest thing in town. Everybody's waiting for this. It's the biggest release ever. Few billion dollars already committed to the game. They raised the prices on it. They got different options on what things you can do with it. Tom, how do you see this story? - So there's a couple of angles to this. And what people need to see is very slowly, but very steadily, the pilot in the airplane is being replaced by the pilot with the joystick that's in, what was that? Until Tom Dashel closed it. Elseworth Air Force Base in the South Dakota, where they ran the B2s, was the first place supposedly that they had remote drones. pilots. So these were kids with exceptional eyesight, handicap ordination, and twitch that were actually piloting drones remotely. So you had hyperskilled gamers being recruited. Look at this. FAA hires 2,000 gamers, air traffic controllers. And the Army has also developed an eSports team. You know, they have those eSports teams. They go that and they sit there and for those big gamer chairs and compete with each other. The Army is an eSports team. So there's a couple of things going on. One is the reality is people are going to be calling in sec on that day. The second reality, some day somewhere G's looking maybe best day to get Taiwan is right here. You know, in the launch of GTA where the world's distracted. But the third thing is the military, there they are. There's the military eSports team is they're recruiting gamers and they're below their quota. And so to show some, to show a little bit of, you know, empathy and connection with gamers, I think it's a smart move by the military. And by the way, we need the to enlist people with gamer skills because that's the people are going to be flying drones in the future as they become even more sophisticated. Yeah, I think the incentive is too small. I think you're right. They got to give the game. They got to give was it Xbox or the PlayStation? Which one is it on? GTA, I think it should be for both games. Okay. It's got to be both the big guy. They got to give all of if they offered you 60K in what you're 0102, if they offered you 60K at that time, they gave me a GI bill of $26,500. If they offered that then, yes. And you just are giving me a four day weekend. It's got to be more than that. It's got to be like, we'll buy you a ticket to go to the national tournament, whatever that's going on. And, you know, a system, both Xbox and PlayStation and the game's science. It's got to be, it's got to be something a little bit juicier, but apparently it's now 20 people that have really listed. But that shows you how desperate people. That means people are not joining the military. Our enlistment numbers. Yeah. Like as much as that we're being tough and it's the Department of War and stuff, people aren't aren't joining anymore. And the guys at the end of the day, we need soldiers. I understand the robotic stuff and the AI and the drones and all that stuff. But you still need people. And that was a great story. Think about it. People that are playing a air traffic control video game. The government's going after them and going, hey, listen, you didn't crash any planes during your 10 hour freaking game. We're going to hire you. And apparently they filled up 96% of the recruitment got high. What was it? 94% of its hiring because of a video game. So go on. Look, I'm going to stay in my lane. I didn't, I didn't serve. I mean, you're wearing a military jacket. So listen, man, yeah, salute you. I got massive respect for our military. When we were at the UFC at the White House, I know we had a great time, guys. Amazing. The military, the servicemen and women, they got more respect in the fighters. I got massive respect for these guys. I want to understand how it works though, Pat. You get recruited. You're in for how many years they try to bring you back in. They try to incentivize you for the laymen out there, which is 99% of us walk me through how it works. This is how you get recruited. This is how much time you have to serve. This is how they try to recruit you. These are the incentives. This is the annual. I'm reenlistment. I'll just regularly know how many times I've heard the name Lieutenant Colonel Peacocks. You kid me, that David, reenlist or in this walk me through the whole list. They start in high school. They come to school and they talk to you. Hey, you would be great. You know, man, it's such a great experience. Women love men in uniform. They're literally that's what they say. Hey, hey, hey, hey, you. They're their cat calling. I mean, they're very, they're very good. So you were like, saw me. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the guy that got me, Jesus Garrett got me at 14 years old and I didn't get in until I was 17 years old. He kept saying, but David, I'm telling you, this school stuff's not for you. You would do very good in a military. You'd have a very good career. And then eventually it happened, but reenlist, reenlist they start six months before your ETS. So what's your, what does that mean? I don't know much. So let's just say your ETS is coming out where you're getting out. ETS is your leaving the military. You're, you're, uh, can you pull out what ETS stands for? I think it's made a time of service service. Yeah, it's the ETS expiration term of service. So you're about to get out when your ETS sink. And then they'll start saying, what do you want to do? So maybe you'll ask, I want a different M.O.S. I want a different job. I want to go to a different base. First time around, they'll tell you what base would you like to play? Oh, yeah. For the dream sheet, Pat, you're never getting your base. And then when you say, Hey, Jesus, I tell you, tell me I'm going to Germany. Yeah. I mean, I really fought hard for you. But you got Kentucky. I said, you know, how many Middle Easters aren't Kentucky? Jesus, I got to say, now I'm going to give you Kentucky. I'm so sorry. But eventually on your second in listen, they'll give you whatever you want. So second time, you get to ask where you want to go. Okay. How many years are the enlistments for two or two late entry is two and a half years, longest could be six, some could be eight, but it's generally two to six years. So then, you know, I said, no, I'm getting out. But let me tell you what I did fine. And I almost didn't want to show this. But if you guys know, this is going viral all over the internet, an old picture of Tom. What? An old picture of Tom. If you want to pull it up in the military, you have this one. You're an 80 in military. Tom. That gave you weren't Pat. So this is Tom and Tom didn't want to see it. Listen, he didn't want to show him. Listen, David. See, he's wearing a uniform, sir. So you can make your favorite noise right now. If you want, can you, can you see Tom looks like a general, right? Except with the, with the, with the what he called, he's gone. Yeah. So listen, I could see Tom getting into a press conference right now. Listen, we've eliminated the enemy right here. The foreign combatants have had no chance. You know that video we did when they said, you know, who's more likely to bail you out of jail? Who's more likely to do this? Yeah. Who's like who's fired more people? Everybody went on Tom said, right? We're going to do one for the podcast. Okay. And we're going to see what the crew is going to say here because people really need to know who Tom really is. Yeah. Okay. Can we do that? I don't think people really know that and we'll do that here soon. But anyways, okay. Now this is me, the congressional hearing I was asking Senator, we need to ship 14 million of these to China along with some Bob Marley tape. Yeah, but play that clip real quick. Watch this clip. 14 million something of you is go ahead. So, again, who's more likely to talk your era for an hour? We've got to win at something. Who's more likely to be late to their own team meeting? Come on. I'll start. No, that's already sitting there. Who drops more f-bombs? Everybody. Really? Really? Oh, really? Really? I don't know. I didn't realize they're patitives. Lowkey, Tom. New guy. Lowkey. Who's more likely to email you at two in the morning? Five in the morning. I don't even, I text you late, but not even. Who's more likely to yell at you in the morning and then take you out for lunch in the afternoon? Who's fired more people? Tom. Oh, shit. Who's more likely to talk your era for an hour? That was actually really fun. You know, it was fun about this is you got to kind of reflect on yourself and just laugh. Yeah, you have to if you lose the ability to do that, you lose that. Here's what you have to realize when they Mario comes to me. Mars, like Pat, I said, a meeting with Tom, Tom was telling me how to fire somebody. We're in Dallas. What did Tom say? He says, dude, Tom is ice cold away. Firespeople. How was it? He says, this is not working out. Today's your last day. Thank you for your. It's like money ball. Hey, listen, you've been traded. Well, let me tell you something, Tom. You've done a good job of rubbing off that Mario. That guy is ice cold. So then Mario's like, Mario to fire me. Yes. So Mario, Mario goes in and Mario's like, this is not working out. You need to pack your stuff. And I said, how was it? This is off at first. I was so nervous that that's Tom. So you remember that movie with George Clooney, who goes and he's always firing people in his teach and this girl had a fight. You ever seen that movie? Anyways, it was a scene. That was Tom. Tom teaching Mario how to fire people. Okay. Before we get into the next story, I want you to watch this clip because there's some stuff that's happening with future looks bright shoes. And after this, we're going to get into the story of Trump's approval rating and a story about Iran and what he thinks is going to happen. Go for it. When we set out to create a shoe that blends comfort, function and luxury, we had the choice to make it fast. 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Trump previously hit 33% in December of 2017 or first term low. Meanwhile 80% of respondents said they expect the war in Iran will go on for an extended period of time. The war began in February and was explained to Americans as a mission to wipe out Iran's nuclear weapons program Iranian attempts to assert dominance over the state of Hormuz has complicated matters. One-fifth of world's oil traverses the straight and the effect are felt at the Trump since the war began national gas prices average has jumped from under three dollars to over four dollars according to AAA data. The numbers land weeks ahead of critical midterm elections with Republicans openly acknowledging there's more work to do time. So there's a couple things going on here and number one Americans are very fatigued about the war very fatigued. There was a period of okay I hope this is over quick just like Venezuela then there was this period of whoa what are we getting into and then we went back and forth where the market would move on one sentence and move the other way on another sentence. Then what happened is it took three days of sentences to move the market because the market suddenly was becoming resilient and almost insulated to what was going on and guess what that had a waterfall effect on the economy and when people talk about the economy when a citizen talks about the economy here's what they mean they mean they usually mean fuel and groceries they'll they'll attribute cost of fuel and groceries to the whole economy so it's citizens really meaning my economy and the government and the the president's approval rating is handcuffed to economy more than any other thing outside of a spike issue a spike issue is 9/11 terrible terrible massive interruption or cataclysmic and so right now people are still feeling the gas at the pump and they're also starting to feel you know you know some fatigue on the war and our our prices ever going to be and that is leading to strong economic headwinds on the president and the word we've been talking about for six months and I was affordability and so that's where they are and right now I'm going to teach you something you're going to think I'm talking drugs but I'm not you know what the crack spread is the crack spread we just did a whole marijuana now you're doing crack tom no if you google it the crack spread is the difference between a barrel of oil and the cost of refining it the crack spread is hit $100 so transportation and refining cost on top of the barrel of oil have are now over a hundred it wasn't this way early in the in because refineries are running at capacity because the refineries there's two refineries remember valero refinery that was shut down in California it's making a difference that's 5% of the U.S. refining cost and so it's all of this crack spread at a hundred gas doesn't look like it's coming down under the the price it is right now which is frustrating motorists they see that as their economy their economy is our perception of the president and the president's approval rating is down take a look at this chart the chart is showing it going down it's because once the war started enduring it didn't go back you know you and I'm only looking at the the war itself from January and you see the big drop right there before April see that path yeah of course won't right over April that was in March when it was like okay I thought this was supposed to be quick and out Maduro goes to jail I thought we were doing something similar when we when we went in and destroyed that quote destroyed the nuclear places in Iran and out hey we destroyed stuff all of sudden this is extending and it's having a really bad impact on the president's approval rating yeah and remember too Trump was the guy who was supposed to alleviate the fatigue that Americans were feeling about these wars in the Middle East I mean this is the guy who 10 years ago got up on the debate stage and told Jeb Bush that the Iraq war was a big fat mistake and Republican voters didn't know that you were allowed to say that like in the 2000s your level of commitment to the Republican cause was demonstrated by your vocal like support for these wars in the Middle East and so Trump gets up there and is supposed to be a repudiation of this and so now like you're saying you know we get back in Americans are like okay we can tacitly accept this but it keeps going on and on and since it began his approval rating hasn't cracked 40 again you know it was up there in a while for the 40s but it was still trending down still not bad for a president in this stage in his term but really what started to actually decrease it was when Americans started seeing for the first time those videos of the mass deportations and now I was looking at the polling too and it shows that how Americans are viewing the immigration issue as shifted from being like way way way way in support of how Republicans want to handle it versus Democrats something like a 40 point difference now it's basically neck and neck which tells me that you know Americans are starting to see like what that actually looks like and they're kind of souring on it like it it's now 50/50 in terms of how they would like to see Democrats versus Republicans handle the immigration issue and so Trump you know insofar as he's able to execute on that that's just going to like hurt him more as people are seeing what they're paying for at the pump they're seeing more videos of like people just getting deported like this is not going to look good for him you're very learned on this I was reading yesterday that right now the only issue that Republicans have a clear lead on his crime all of the other traditional Republican issues on economy and the border and everything are suddenly slacking as America loses confidence over the summer is it and here's my question we have what two years left until you know the presidential election in November but is there enough time to turn this around because affordability I mean think about it because if affordability is going to stay the same this war is going to stay the same the mass deportation of all these illegals which is helping with this freaking affordability because these people are living places they're getting paid we're giving them all this freaking money yeah it's because my thing is this it's life after Trump yeah as much as Gavin and all these people keep going on Trump but Trump he's going to be gone he's going to be out and I think whoever's going to be attached to him as a Republican you know nominee this is just going to bleed to them and then we keep here in the socialist rise their attitudes and be like look at these the Republicans forever wars you can't afford anything vote for us we're going to give you everything for free and that's what I'm worried about because I don't see do you see that this war is not going to stop this is the war that everybody said this is going to be that even Charlie Kirk God rest his soul he said the last thing we want is to get into a war it's going to be a quagmire in Iran and look where we are right now there's no end in sight yeah but you're right and it's not about the presidential election which is in two years we are exactly two and a half months to midterms exactly 75 days midterms yes so so the big so the big that's a very good question to ask and we can have that conversation but Tom a couple things to be looking at is on the market the S&P dropped from 78 to 7600 not a big number let's just say it's at 7650 and then you saw Besson said they're going to double down the amount of long term treasury the 10 year and 30 years that they're going to buy from whatever 224 billion starting september to november and with the hopes of that may be measuring off and you know getting the economy to be a little bit more stable are you seeing that that behavior got the market to react positively or the markets like yet that's not going to make a difference the market went out one night had some beers over Monday night football in the next morning it's slid right back in other words I'm joking a little bit but I'm not the market had a little celebratory moment when Besson was basically reducing supply of bonds if you want to think of it that way to prop up price and what happened is the market came back a day later and combination I think ppi came out producer price index and they shook off the the impact by Besson and it it moved and everybody was like whoa Besson was supposed to be that's the bigger problem if if the economy goes in that direction and they're paying a price with because right now the economy is mainly hurting cool who's the economy mainly hurting the lower middle income the average guy which by the way say that again case right if it hurts them you need those guys from midterms vote you're going to feel it and so the last thing you want if i'm trump the last thing you want is the following you do not want to go into your last two years with the midterms of your candidate losing because then that means in 2028 the tweet and the endorsement of magma may not mean a lot so then people will start eating their own they'll start attacking their own and so you you know they'll start distancing well you know I think the president went a little bit too far you know I do like some of the stuff that he did but I don't support the way he handled Iran and and then legacy is hitting and then you're going to see trump attacking everyone of those candidates even though he's not going to be involved I don't know if that makes sense or not so jd decides to take that position it's like oh man now now the left is going to be like awesome we have civil war the president went after pens and now the president's going after jd if he went after pens you don't think he's going who is pens today so you have to realize jd has to play a very he has to maneuver in a very interesting way and the president has to make sure he maintains his power his war his endorsement and that's what he's dealing with and then alas but not least it's it this is it for him this is a legacy you got two years left on your contract that's it and then after that you're an ex president you're not you're not all the other stuff is you know you're just going and you don't speak and you're doing different kind of things but he's got two years to clean this up does he have enough time or not we will see if the war continues That is going to be a massive, massive conversation that they're going to be having. You know what question I would want to ask the president if I sat down with him. You know what I want to ask him right now is say before the war starts and there's a room of conversations. Would you have approved killing, you know, Khamenei, were you for that or was that Israel? Is it you that wanted to kill everybody, the family, the wife, everybody? What the answer to that question leads to his sequence and being at a whack. I don't know if that makes sense. If you're in the room and the generals tell you, Tom, hey, we got it. It's going to be like Venezuela. Trust us. It's going to be good. And you're having to call with Israel. And then Israel goes and takes out Khamenei. If you do, you're prolonging the war because now you're forcing everybody to be fully committed. I want to know if that was his decision or if that was BB's decision and that was and that was after, right? But that that the answer to that question is so important on many levels. It is so important on so many levels because you know, it says they killed them. He kept saying they killed them. They killed them. Not we killed them. They killed them. If it happened, then that needs to be explained to the market because maybe the, like, when you do that right now, you're so into deep that if you don't do anything to Iran now, the America's going to get hit 5, 10, 15, 20, 30. It's going to happen. It's just a delayed response to you killing the guys, father, wife, and mother, whatever. You killed everybody in his life. And nobody even knows if the guys alive or not, if Pezeshkyan is meeting with them in an underground place that you can't even open up and you're hearing somebody and it's so dark. It's like, yeah, I met him. Did you really? Is the guy really alive? What happened? So you've created so much vengeance that they had you, you're, you're in too deep. So I don't think he was the guy that called the shots and killed and culminated. I don't think so. I think he likes to kill number 2's and 3's. He killed got some sole money. I think he knows not to kill number 1's. I think whoever killed number 1 is somebody that wants it to be longer because they wanted to be done. You kind of got me into it. It's like, dude, why'd you kill him? You ever seen the movie as a town? I don't know if it's town where one guy kills the guy said, what did you do that for? Now we are all going. Like, the plan wasn't. I don't know if it was them. They're robbing a bank. Yeah. This is a lot of heat. Well, heat. When they killed the guy that's talking about the town. No, like, dude, I can even go to the Jeremy Ren that scene. He's in the car. You killed the kids. I'm not blown up the kid. There's kids in the car. Scarface. Scarface. Yeah, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing it to the kid. And then that's when it's like, you crossed the line. So even somebody like me that was more knowing what IRGC's about that the world would be a better place without them. Even I said a week before, I think killing the Prime Minister, it's a permanent war. If you kill the Prime Minister, if you kill the Supreme Leader, you have to take out the entire regime. I agree. I agree, confident you can deliver. So to me, it's a little bit of a, you know, it's a little bit of a, you know, tough situation he's in himself. You take out Soleimani, you can get the number one to talk. That's the point. Yes. Exactly. So you don't. Well, that didn't really work out like that one. Well, for that, I told it wasn't talking after you took out Soleimani. Well, you made us, when you made, but that outcome then wasn't nuclear. It was a very different thing you're doing. Correct. There at the Qasam Soleimani was a very different thing. Now, it's such a binary solution, there is no mid memorandum of understanding. You have two choices right now, either they're going to look at you like this and here's how the negotiation goes. Okay. Yeah. Memorandum understanding. Okay. We control the hormones. You do this and we will not do anything with nuclear. Okay. Okay. Alright, he's out. Alright, guys. Let's go. Let's go back in a week of president's going to come and then there's going to be an attack on U.S. or military bases. You think they. You think these fanatical people are just about money? They're not about money. When you do business with people that are about money, what's honest about it? It's transactional. Try. You're going to make money. I'm going to make money. They're going to make money. Let's move on. This is not just about money. This is fanatical. Vengeance. Revenge. It's a very different ideology that these guys have. Okay. What I want to do is compare and contrast Trump's approach to Obama's approach. Whether it's Iran or whether it's even approval ratings right now because what Obama was doing, you could argue that Trump did the exact opposite. Obama was doing the. I'm so sorry for being America. Let's all be friends. Let's all be nice. And the fanaticals were like, yeah, we're still going to kill you, buddy. So Trump, I think, just recognized like you're not going to negotiate with these people. We've been kicking the can down the road for 45 years. I don't think so. I don't. You think Trump called the shots to kill Kamenei? I don't know. I don't want to speculate. I want you to speculate. But I want you to speculate. Look, do I think that Trump is in charge, yes. I think he ultimately made the decision. He may have been influenced by people who didn't have his best interest at heart, but I think he still made that call, yeah. You think he made the call to kill Kamenei? Ultimately, yeah. See, I don't believe that. There is no pattern showing that's how he does business. And going off of what you said, he always said. But he already bombed him on multiple times. No, nothing about this. They have a story. And he makes a great point because you said one word. You said, we, when Trump kills somebody, he goes, I killed him. I killed what. You know what? I don't think so. Maybe that's a conversation. A bar? A bar about daddy. I can see him having that conversation with you. I don't think. By the way, just so you guys know, Michael Cohen just interviewed Trump because during the podcast, when I interviewed Michael Cohen, he got emotional and I said, and I said, I think the interview will happen. And I shared that with a few people who was right before an event that we had. Michael Cohen just sat down in front of Trump and interviewed him, like on an interview. He called in. He called in. And nobody ever thought this was going to happen. And even Trump said it. It's unfair what they did to you. Of course, what they did to me. So meaning, I don't care if I ask the question or somebody else asked the question, whoever's watching this, whoever's sitting down, I want to know who called the shots to kill Kamenei because that changes everything from me. I don't think he called the shots. I'm not even going to speculate. Can I get to the point about the approval ratings? Yeah. I actually think that Trump is more stable than Obama. Let me explain. Obama came in and do you know what is, how high is the approval rating? 83. It was 70%. 70%. Who had 81 or 83? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It was Bush after. I think W. W. The week after. Obama got up 69, 70%. Okay. Do you know his lowest approval rating was in the mid 30s, 36, 37? That plummeted 30 plus percent points. Trump came in. He was a 45 percent guy at best. Trump never hit 50. I'm talking on his best day. So Trump is hovering around 40, whether you like him or not. So now he's hovering in the mid 30s, ish 34. Trump is what he is. We know what he is. The reality is Trump is who he is. He does what he does. Take it or leave it. Juck's supposing that with Obama, everyone thought Obama was black Jesus. But the time he left office is like, so what do Obama do exactly? Nobody. He made it healthcare or expensive. What's your point though? What's your point? And he made the White House gay. Are you making it comparing him to Obama? That's all that you can do. Obama will never be in the discussion as one of the greatest presidents of all time. Well, according to who? No, no, no. No, no. You're talking about getting stuff done. Obama. Trump runs circles around. Obama and Trump. Obama's not in the league of Trump as a leader. It's not even close. But that's your opinion. A lot of people. Not different. No, no, no. Obama was. I'm with you. I'm with you. Obama was a, a Obama leader's weaker in front of our people. And Obama was too much of a conformist and people pleaser, and he wanted everybody like, no, Obama. He's so talented. But sell that story. That's a different story though. Those are different things. Yeah. I think the comparison of Trump to him, I think the, the part that Trump deep down, and I don't even know. Trump wants people, there's a, there's an element of my opinion. There's an element of Trump of after him, he wants people to know. He was different. His impact is permanent. It's never going away. That's a good thing in a bad thing. Because you have to also know that eventually when your legacy comes and you move on, he sets something in an interview, he says, you know, people forget all this stuff you did for them. All these people, I made their shows up, but you know what, that's how life is. He sets something like this about 18 months ago, and, and that's good that he's getting in that phase of knowing everybody kind of moves on, and they go to the next thing. And you, that's a very hard thing to accept for a lot of people. This is why a lot of athletes that end up their, their career getting the divorce immediately, like bodybuilders, athletes, you know, Brady, you know, Michael. It's not easy. It's very, very hard because you went from being a face of everything. But I think he needs to, and I don't think this is fully 5% chance of this happening. He needs to really realize that post him could be extremely chaotic if he doesn't hand it off the right way, because I think he went here, he's here. So the only thing back from this is what, here, and I think he needs to go here. here for two goals here. So I don't know. We can go all the way here, but if you're going to go all the way here, you better finish the job. You know what they say? You never go full. Yeah. No, no, no, I don't know if I'm making sense. Maybe I'm not doing a good job. No, no, no, you are pendulum swing. You are, but Obama side, no, no, what I'm saying is the amount of influence he has in the Republican party is not the same as what Obama had in the Democratic party. Maybe at one point, he did, but you don't think it's more. No, no, it is a way more. Yeah, it is not even close. This guy's a worker, bro. This is a proof of ratings within. This guy's a worker. This is a, this is an 80 year old that will do laps by around 25 year olds. This is an anomaly. This is a very unique case study that you're looking at, but he needs to think about the future of America because the enemy is real. That's that's and if you don't realize that the enemy is real and you just say, well, it's your job. You guys handle it. I think you know, it's like when you're running the baton, what did he call that race where you have to hand over the baton? What happens if you drop the baton? Who's the racist? Oh, I think that a handoff needs to be very delicate. I actually hand off the Biden to Kamala disaster. Yeah, but Biden's not a leader. Biden, nobody ever will look at Biden as a leader. Trump's a leader. I'm very looking great. No, it's a, it's a, he raised $4 million for his life. It's not, it's a different story. There is no right. So do we want to do a couple of last words before we wrap up? Do you want to go to this arrest that happened, Vinnie? There's women arrested for allegedly plotting New York State Capitol attack. She looks very friendly. I mean, just a regular American woman that when you see this, if you guys want to play this clip here, this is on the notes that you have. You have it. It's on the denim page six if you want to go to it. So FBI arrested woman Wednesday. Who do you have it? Is this it? Go for it. Thank you. Breaking moments ago, the FBI says it disrupted a potential ISIS-inspired terror plot in New York. The agency tells Fox they've arrested a 35 year old Albany woman accused of plotting to bomb the state capital and kill lawmakers. According to a criminal complaint, Jessica Bowie pledged allegiance to ISIS and allegedly planned to hide a bomb inside a door-dash bag, hoping to strike while state senators will meet it. She looks at a Kathy Hogan expected to see the next hour where we could get more information about all of this. Do you have a video? Oh, there's some photos of her. There's some show. Look it. Look, can you just please take a second, guys, and look at what this moron. I'm sorry, Jessica, Jessica, and you have a photo of her. Show her, show her outside because Muslim lady, right? Well, she's a what. She's what, but she wasn't. Look at this is, this is, and again, I've said this before, white liberal. This is not a transit. This is not a dude. That's a woman. She, that's a girl from beginning to. Yes. Okay. I'm actually not joking. That's not a man. She's actually. No, no, she's actually a girl. She's freaking fled to Syria. Make a great power forward. That's right. Keep going. Like bottom. And this is my point. I know you want to say, I can't wait to see her. What you have to say, this is the problem with these white board liberal women that have nothing to do. Bro, they have nothing to do. They're so bored out of their minds. There's no men. There's no nothing because they hate us. They have to do. They have to get on causes, BLM. Get in front of Ix. Do all this. And to be a freaking terrorist and go kind of go back to what she was dressed up as at home depot. She's dressed up like this at home depot buying bomb making material. Excuse me. Where are the detonators? Yeah. You might as well dress up like Dracula and go into a blood bank and say, I like to make it withdrawal. You are the dumbest person ever, but this is showed you. Look at how dumb she is. She changed her name to Aisha, which, you know, that's Mohammed, the prophet's nine year old wife after he freaking, you know, hooked up with her when she was six years old. And she sets, she texted stuff like this, praise me to Allah for September 11th. This is a white woman from here. When I migrate, I will poison these infidels. Blowing cuffees, brains out is beautiful. I want to destroy as much. These are all quotes. I want to destroy as much as the building as possible and kill senators when they're in meetings. And she wanted to go to the White House and she was trying to at some point kill the president. You know how she was recruited by this. This is probably some guy message her, but this is what I want people to understand. This is real. If you don't think that there are actual, this, she's, she's the worst. Why would you start with all that? Seriously, vocal has, has found a way to work with Manani. Okay. Why would you start with Albany? Albany is actually helping. Yeah. No, exactly. So you see, I think that proves normal rational. I think that's hurt. Let me read the comment. I played you pledge allegiance to ice converted to Islam five years ago. Yeah. The fact that by itself, obviously, no connection to terrorism, but she did may have 2026 FBI investigators identified online accounts linked to Boey expressing support for terrorism. She allegedly praised 9/11 like what he just talked about. She formed pledged allegiance to ISIS. Around July 16, things moved from ideology towards operational planning. According to complain Boey began communicating over an encrypted platform with the confidential FBI source whom she believed was an ISIS facilitator. She allegedly initiated the request for help. Complaints says she expressed a desire to conduct a major attack and sought assistance learning about explosive the FBI source introduced her to additional confidential sources. Boey apparently believed these people could help her facilitate ISIS inspired plan. Her alleged target became the New York State Capitol and she allegedly wanted to leave America and go to ISIS control territory. By the way, when she did an interview with them, this is what one of the Craig Tirmoli special agent in charge of FBI's Albany office said, make no mistake about it. Miss Boey alleged plot was serious. It was dangerous and it was foiled. Now, this is what she told them Miss Boey allegedly said, there is no helping me. You guys know enough. I'm going to prison for the rest of my life. Material support is up to 20 years in prison. I already googled it. John, were you at with this? I really hope that these people stay this dumb because if they become more intelligent, it can really get dangerous. And no one remembers this, but there was a period in American history in the late 1960s, early 1970s, where we had something like three or five bombings every day in this country, being executed by these like leftist terrorist groups, like the weather underground. And now you never hear about this stuff. And in fact, a lot of the people who were coordinating this at the time went on to go teach at like prestigious universities. So instead of like their terrorists going to jail, like we had with J6, that terrorist attack or so they call it, those people got like prestigious jobs at universities, think things in this nature. So this is kind of what we were talking about earlier, like whenever the left feels like it's back is against the wall. It gets pretty agitated, pretty scary with what these people are capable of. So I hope that they stay this stupid because we've seen what it looks like when they're intelligent, better coordinated. And it gets very violent very quickly. It's actually very good perspective. I agree with you there. What was really crazy in California and you're bringing it up is and it shows you how some when Patty Hearst was kidnapped, they wanted to get money from her, her family's fortune. Anybody know the story? So Patty Hearst? Yeah, Patty Hearst was kidnapped. You know who was her lawyer? Efflee Bailey. Yep. And they, she was the granddaughter of like William Randolph Hearst. And so she was converted. She was convinced and converted to join the Symbianese Liberation Army, whatever that was. And then they said, now we need money. We don't have any finances. So we're going to go knock over a bank. And they all went into a bank wearing braze and no disguise. There it is. Symbianese Liberation Army. I remember it right. And so they go in there to do that. This is during the 70s. This is during the 70s where you'd have a bomb in a mailbox blows up. You know the mailboxes at the side of the street. You have a bomb in a mailbox blows up. You had all these things going on. And I think what's now is with online, there's more take a look at what the FBI did. How many of the FBI guys have to be out there? And you know what they're using? You don't want to hear about it. Palantir. Listening. They're on encrypted platforms. They're on discord. And they're looking for this stuff. And this is where you see in the name of safety that it works. And they find these things. Hey, there's person over here, a person over there. The millions and millions and millions of calls going on. Somehow they filtered it, sniffed it out, jumped in, did tricking her. Yeah, the summer sniffing. So Eric Swalwell, the issue he has got illegal donations from suspected Chinese spy bombshell memo show. So what's the story with Eric Swalwell, Vinnie? I know you're following. What happened there? What Fang Fang? Yeah, what happened? What's the recent story with her? Fang Fang or bang Fang? That was a three. All right. So let me just do the whole unpack it. I have it right. Where is he? Are you following this story with Swalwell? Yeah. He went to an airport yesterday and he took his phone in his laptop. And they said, we're still investigating you this time. We want this for evidence on the sexual assault trial. And he apparently stood there in an airport and had to surrender them, correct? Yeah. Well, he was, well, first of all, he was allowing a suspected Chinese. I know we make fun of her operative. She got access to his political operation, recommend in turn. Pat, she was recommending in terms to get close to members of Congress. Okay. And then Congress should, I think if, I don't know if you guys think Congress should have background checks for anybody, anybody working in or around you, especially if the time you, you don't know, they just hire interns and they just show up. You want Chang Lee is a nice kid from San Francisco. Yeah, exactly. Like how many times are we going to see China connected to people at the highest levels? Like, we already know. Look at the pattern, Tom. Hunter Biden and his family dealings with Chinese money. China spa, they send the spy balloons over the country for four, for four years during Biden. And they were like, no, don't shoot it down. Let it go. Let it do reconnaissance. Get to the edge of the water. And then they would shoot it down. All the stuff that we found out of them buying, buying land next to our freaking military bases, especially Mount Strobe Air Force base, Montana, where I was station, which was a nuclear base, then you have Xi Jinping, he shows up the San Francisco. They kick all the homeless people out because they want to make it look good for a leader who is our enemy. - All in Twa, I was back yard. - All in his backyard. On top of all the intellectual property that they stole, China stealing our property, fentanyl, all that stuff, and a little virus that came out of China called COVID. At what point, like, she was in there, she was using him. They were probably, hey, with all the frickin' blackmail stuff, who knows what she was doing? He's obviously, we've seen him on camera with the girl on the hotel bed and all that stuff. Who knows what she had, what she was using against him, what access, and what type of secret, or whatever, he was on the House Intelligence Committee. It doesn't get more serious than that. So this bothers me, and again, this is China, again, at work. I know Trump says, yeah, well, we have spies too, that are over there. They are way more infiltrated in our frickin' government. And again, Tom, COVID came out, and there's still zero accountability. I don't care where it came from. - Wait a minute, there may not be zero, because what happened here? Didn't they also search his home or something? - They searched his home on Sunday, but he wasn't home, and then they tracked him, and went to the airport, and then they found him there. So I think there's some accountability coming to him, don't you think? - Well, Tom, until I see handcuffs, handcuffs, and then going to jail, just like all the perp walks they did under the Trump administration, from Roger Stone to everybody, I want to see a Democrat go to jail, have any of them, meaning accountability for the actual crime that they did. Not the bogus stuff that they did with Trump. Show me somebody, have you, who has gone the jail for a Democrat so far? Who, who was that one Congressman time that had gold or Egyptian gold or? Oh, Jerry Nadler. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no before, illegal to get kicked out. I wanted no new wars, I wanted cheaper gas, I wanted all that, and I wanted accountability. We are now down to two years. Call me, okay, he got indicted, the shells were waiting. Is anybody gonna go to jail? Is anybody gonna go to prison? Do you think? - Probably not in this administration now. - It's frustrating. I want something, we want, like you gotta give it to us. We voted for it, we were getting, I was in California. - What do you say? - Probably not in this administration. - I mean, we've tried to do stuff, and judges will throw it out, or they'll find technicalities. It's tough to use existing law to go after these people, and they're very talented at maneuvering to exploit the system. And so I'm with you, like I would like to see justice, but unfortunately it's just not being delivered, 'cause when they're in power, they can do it so much easier, like with the J6 investigation. They can basically push a button and have the largest DOJ investigation in history, 'cause existing law can be manipulated such that, people walking through the capital are equivalent to domestic terrorists or something, so they're just far better at playing the game. They've got the pieces where they need to be, and so when we're in power, it's like we're trying to cold start an engine that was never meant to run for us. - So the fact that they have, so like right now, if the DOJ, FBI, everybody wants to go after these people, and actually throw the book at them, all these Biden appointed, or Obama appointed judges are in there, and they just go, no, I think that it could be done, but we need to work with a longer timeline, and we're not gonna have that longer timeline if we don't solve the baseline issues, like you're talking about with gas prices, affordability, because a lot of times, people do favors politically for the base, and I think there's a good story to be told, actually, with maybe like Victor Orban's Hungary, where it's like this is a guy who got in there, and he was supposed to be, you know, the real socially conservative, and so he's doing a lot of favors for maybe the more socially conservative people in Hungary, but he was failing to maintain like a basic economic standard, and so the voters punished him for that, and you're gonna see a similar thing in America, if we don't correct course, where it's like, yeah, you know, we've got the funny tweets, we've got the edits, we could maybe even, if we have the time, give you mass arrests of like corrupt politicians, but the voters aren't gonna reward that, because it's like, dude, honestly, like, I may be appreciate that, I'm a conservative guy, but if I'm still paying $4 at the pump, buy, I'm gonna go vote for a Democrat, and you can't blame them for doing that, you know, it's like you say, people experience the economy through grocery prices and gas prices, and no matter what, they're gonna assume the man in the White House is responsible for both of those things, even if inflation's better, we're still dealing with the hangover from the Biden-Air inflation, doesn't matter. Explain that to the average voter, do you think they care? Probably not. - Let me ask you a question, John. What is your position with youth influencers in the political space, the Hassan Pikers, the Fuentes, the Sisson, and I would also put, there's one other guy to put in that camp as well, there's what is the other one I'm missing out? There's one other name, but anyways, what do you think about what's going on with the younger influencers, both on the left and the right? - I think that the left does a better job at it than the right does. I think the left is very much trying to drag their party in a productive political direction. You see like a Hassan Pikers showing face to these events trying to be something of a kingmaker. The right is much more selfish. We try to do this in a way that's capturing market share, competing with each other. It's become, I'll put it this way. We used to talk a lot about ideas and having discourse open dialogue. In the past couple of years, everything has become much more about like, well, who are you getting paid by? Who's paying you to say that? Casting tar on people such that their integrity is called into question. And it's like, if I don't think you have integrity, well then there's nothing for us to talk about because I don't believe that you believe anything you're saying. And so it's caused that kind of like civil war dynamic that the left is loving, which is why when we saw like the first shots of this a year or so ago, already there were articles in the Washington Post, the Atlantic, New York Times telling everybody, there's a civil war don't get too sad because Trump is president. There's a civil war. This is all gonna be divided and it's not gonna be successful. It's not gonna have longevity. So the left loves this. They're far better at playing the political game than people on the right, especially their influence. How much do you think that the right has suffered because someone like Charlie Kirk is no longer here? I literally could not think of a worse thing to happen. He was the second most important figure for conservatives aside from Trump himself. I mean, nobody could reach people, let alone young people the way Charlie Kirk could, which is why I mean, everyone talks about who stood to benefit the most. The left probably stood to benefit the most, which is why millions of them celebrated it. I mean, normal Americans who are maybe a political saw their liberal friends and coworkers and relatives celebrate this and they're like, what the, I just saw this guy debating people on Instagram. Why are you celebrating his death? So it's almost like they understood how important he was more than a lot of conservatives. I remember when I was 18, 19, I was like, Charlie Kirk says this and I think that this is the right way. I was trying to like outflank him from the right. Now I realize how important this guy was. You know, it's not always about being the most right guy in the room. It's about building coalitions, working. How do we move the ball down the field? And clearly nobody could do that like Charlie Kirk. Who are you seeing doing that right now? Who's building coalitions right now? I think Trump and Vance are trying to hold something together, but it's extremely difficult because, you know, Charlie was the guy who could reward people for playing the game. Hey, you play the ball. You do what you're supposed to do. You can come to my event. You can speak will give you rewards for good behavior. Now absent that incentive structure, it's a knife fight. Everyone just wants to. It's about me. It's about me. You're lying. And everyone goes viral casting, you know, arrows at each other. So it's extremely unproductive. Interesting. And also, you know, the, I mean, we've said it before. We'll say it again, the famous quote when you're young. If you're not a liberal, you have no heart. So there's a lot of young people that are liberal. I was liberal growing up. And then you have to realize that truth and facts are not on your side. But what Charlie did, not only just reward the influencers, he would show up to your college campus. He would show up. He would have events. So he would put himself out there. What the left is better at doing is organizing and showing up. So, I mean, the famous Thomas Soul Story, he's like, I was a Marxist. Why? Because the Marxist would come on campus and teach me. And then eventually, you know, facts showed up and he ended up becoming obviously an economic conservative and one of the greatest thinkers of our life. I think after Charlie, the right needs to sort of take a step back and say, Trump's not going to be here forever. We can't all just wait for Trump to come to our town, to do a rally, who's going to show up in your area, in your town, in your college, and step up and teach, and help young people understand if you go too far left, everything's over in this country. - Yeah, okay. All right, great conversations today. John Doyle, he has a YouTube channel called John Doyle for 166,000 subs, Go support him. He's at the Blaze. They do a great job over there. We're big fans of a Glenn Beck. We love Glenn Beck. And the Blaze, Glenn, to me, his hands down the best teacher. This, you know, space has had ever. Nobody taught better when they would get on the screen and I would teach him. He was the best at the best. So, you're working with one of the best in a marketplace. With that being said, gang, have a great weekend. We will do this again on Monday. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye-bye-bye. [BLANK_AUDIO]