Draft Podcast: Explaining Mock Draft V 3.0

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Before the season started, Helprik won that category narrowly, actually over Von Lacki, which was a bit of a surprise to me. But Ryder Helprik has more raw power than Von Lacki, and you're going to have to take on some of the swing and misconcerns. But when you look at the other college hitting options, college position player options in this class, I just feel like Ryder Helprik's profile is pretty compelling because he could also be a plus defender behind the plate. Like analytically this year-- He was performed this 15th of the year. Exactly. --last year, 15 homers this year. Exactly. So I wonder, like, is this a player who, I mean, we're just now getting him into this range. We've had him mostly in the 10 to 20 range, and I even talked to some people who were like, "Oh, yeah, maybe he could slide into the 20s." As I look at these profiles and try and compare and contrast them, it really feels unlikely to me that that many teams are going to pass on a potential above average defender with this sort of offensive impact at Ketcher. We've seen players of this profile go inside the top 10 before, and I don't think that we're going to be able to do that. writer Helvricks' misconcerns or swing and miss issues are that egregious to warrant him sliding too too far in this class. So he's a name that I'm really curious if we continue to hear more in this top end range. To put it in comparison, again, and I'm not trying to scout the stat line, but I am like we're talking about performance in addition to the scouting components of this all. You've got AJ Garossia, you know, in the mock, he's going above Helvrick. And again, one of these is an outfielder who saw it, but like defensive values not going to be the giant calling card for Garossia as much as a catcher, right? Like a catcher who's a good defensive catcher, those are really hard to find. And if you said like, well, who's having a better season, you can argue Garossia at the plates been a little bit better, but they have same basically similar power. You know, it's something where, yeah, I think Helvricks won that it's still it's interesting to see kind of like, I'm with you. So I'm struggling to get like, what is it that I'm missing about what is not liked about him? But there is, it seems like a little bit more skepticism there. Other thing is we kind of get into this muddy, muddy, eight to, well, eight to what? Well, I'm actually curious. Before we get into the middle, I'm curious if you want to circle back to the giants at four, because you talked about this, you tried to explain it. I don't know if the giants themselves have created noise. I kind of framed it that way in the hot sheet, but it's mostly, there has been a lot of noise surrounding the giants and what they might do at four in the wake of their trade with the Guardian sending Patrick Bailey to Cleveland. They got the 29th overall pick and the slot value and bonus pull money that comes with that pick in addition to Matt Wilkinson. And basically as soon as that trade happened, the rumor circuit kicked off and it was like, oh, could Rock Chalowski stay in California and get to the giants? And basically I feel like the last week of my life has been trying to explain why that is so unbelievably unrealistic. Any thoughts on that noise? Should we just move on? - Yeah, let's talk about it for a minute. - I need to dial into it. - Let's not spend a lot of time because again, I don't like-- - Yeah. - I don't know how, even if you were trying, let's say again, let's just be in the world of the completely hypothetical. This is all hypothetical. There's no reporting to this. This is just throwing it out there, right? So let's say that for whatever reason Rock Chalowski wants to go to the giants and there's been some conversation whatever is like I can get more money for the giants than anyone else. Let's just say even, so you have to start there to even have an argument for how he falls to fall, right? The argument for him to fall to fall has to be what it means is you have to put out a number that puts enough fear into teams picking one, two, three that they won't be able to sign you. Because if you say I want slot at one, I don't think that that's gonna be enough to scare, like if I'm the raise at two and it's like, okay, like, cool, great, sounds great to me. We can do this. I know that'll be a draft bonus record, but that's not like, there's teams here, like the raise at two, I will just point out again, have more money to spend than the giants, right? There's no scenario. You could say, now theoretically, you know, it's like if you said like, "Rock Chalowski's a once in a lifetime talent and we're again, and none of this is reporting. This is, I'm just-- - You're laying out the extremes of the situation to like trying to get this as close as possible. - I'm saying to you here, right? We want $14 million. We want to blow away the bonus record effort. - Well, okay, then you start saying that might be a little tough to do, not that, again, the raise can do it. They have 19 million in their bonus pool. But at one, the White Sox have 17.5 million. They could do that, but they would probably be reluctant to. You would have to like, at the end of the day, even still, if you're at one or two, the only downside of this is, it would hold the rest of your class hostage up to the signing period, right? Because if you're trying to, again, again, to map out the 5% scenario of this, it would have to be, okay, a team of above them is too afraid to pick him because they know this is going to go right down to the line, you know, wire. We actually think it's a bluff. We think that if we offer him 11.35, which would be the bonus record with full slot value at one, again, in this hypothetical world, you think that he's going to eventually say yes, but at the same time, as you drafted the rest of your draft, it would become much more difficult to do because if you don't sign him, you lose that slot value, right? So if you are thinking, again, this becomes so easier if you think you're going to sign a slot. If you think you're going to sign him for, the whole deal is if we're going to sign him for a million under slot, then it really does become a little bit of holding your draft hostage because the player is that you want to sign with that extra million. You can't sign unless you sign the guy at the top. But I'll just go back to, if you're the raise it to, if you're the twins at three and somehow Rock Chalazki's on the board, I promise you, I know that the twins are kind of in a situation right now with kind of a just promoted GM and all this, but like the twins are actually, the twins are actually one of the most interesting teams for this because I believe the twins are one of two organizations that routinely does not go into that 5% overage. So frequent BAA listeners will know every team can go 5% over their bonus pool and there are no penalties outside of paying a bit more tax on that overage. The almost every team regularly dips into that and pushes close to the full 5% if they can. If they don't, it's mostly just like, okay, some guys signed for a little bit less than we were expecting or the math. We gave ourselves some leeway, but the twins routinely will not go into that. So that maybe is, it's funny that they're just, the number three team in this scenario. But again, White Talks raised twins all could offer bonus record deals for slot value and they could all afford to go well over that if they wanted to and it basically would come down to, do you genuinely think that Rock Chalazki would pass on a bonus record to not sign with you and go back to school because he didn't make it to giants? - Let me throw another way up. If again, this is like, so this is in the weird scenario where somehow he doesn't go on and I would say also, for if you're the White Talks, if Rock Chalazki doesn't, if you say we're gonna save money on the bonus, not save money as far as spending, but save money to spend elsewhere and we're gonna take Radiant Emerson at two, at one instead of two. And then Rock Chalazki goes out and is JJ Weatherholt, let's just say in a couple of years, you're running a real risk there as a front office because your fan base is gonna be like, well, this is-- - Well, this is-- - Two things here that came up with this, as I was just talking to people around the industry and trying to lay out like what's most likely here. But I do think that element of, hey, it is far more risky to not take Rock Chalazki for an organization for the people who are making these decisions because if you take Rock Chalazki and it doesn't work out, you're not gonna get a lot of criticism for that pick. No, but everyone thinks Rock Chalazki is the no-brainer option. He's the clear number one guy, he's been that for a year. If you take someone not named Rock Chalazki and it doesn't pan out, you're gonna get crucified by your fan base, by everyone else in the industry, it will require a lot of confidence in your processes and confidence in your job security potentially to do that. And I think that is an element that, however much you want to weight it into the decision-making process, is going to be a factor here. And I talk with multiple people who are decision makers picking the other top of the draft, who agreed with this. The other factor that maybe is just worth mentioning because it does impact how creating savings might work, playing players off of one another to get a better deal, Rock Chalazki, Grady Emerson and Jacob Lombard are all wrapped by the same agency. So it's not a scenario. And again, I'm not saying that the white talks are going in here trying to get the best deal they can get. I don't believe that to be the case, but if they wanted to do that, it would be incredibly difficult to do so because the agency is not gonna play their own players against one another, they're gonna try and create the best deals for each one that they can. So that also adds even more of a challenge to get over this hurdle. - And I just want to add the last piece on this is like with the twins, right? So let's say in some weird world, Rock Chalazki is still on the board at three. I will tell you right now, the flip side of what you just talked about with the white socks, the lowest risk failed signing of all time is the twins at three drafting Rock Chalazki, the fan base basically that day, which is a pretty angry fan base a lot of the time I feel like these days. But that fan base is gonna be like, I can't believe we got Rock Chalazki. The press conference that night, if they say like, "Can you have a deal in line?" It's like, we don't know yet, but we plan to offer a very competitive offer, we hope to sign in whatever. In the worst case scenario, and Rock Chalazki does not sign for you at three, and you get picked for for next year, I do not see there being one ounce of blowback from anyone watching that at the fan base level or anything where it's like, you blew this by not signing Rock. Like they would be like, you were very wise to take that chance. It didn't work out whatever, they'll go back in the draft next year and we're gonna have a massive bulldozer's bull next year. - Cool. - That's not a down, like, that's where it's like, it's just if the giants were picking two, and they got this, then it would be like, oh, this is gonna be interesting, because then it will would be like, okay, if they have the largest bonus pool, is there a number that the white socks won't be willing to go, maybe the giants would or whatever. - Yeah. - It's just hard to imagine getting to four. So that's our summary of the very top of this, but we're not gonna stop at the top. We're gonna keep going, there's a lot to dive into in the middle of this round of this mock graph 3.0 and we'll do that right off its quick break. - Kratty, real simple, man. And when you're looking for the best seats available, where are you headed, big dog? - Seeky, super easy, 'cause they give us everything you need. You can look at all that, you can look at where you're gonna be sitting. I gotta sit at a certain spot. I wanna be able to see a whole field. I don't need to be close to the field. Gotta be a little higher out of the sun. I'm bougie that way. - Of course you are. And guess what, you have a big family and so do I. So you have to decide right away, you gotta do something quick. This is real simple. It's affordable and it's fantastic for a big family like yours and mine. To get seats available as soon as possible. Oh no, yeah, you need a code, I got that for you too. You can use code territory 10 for 10% off your next set of tickets at Seeky. That's 10% of any tickets with promo code territory 10. Make sure you click the link in the description to download the app and have the code automatically added to your account so you can use it later. With over 35 million downloads, Seeky is the number one rated ticketing app. Thank you Seeky. So Carlos, we're back and we got kind of down to that 8, 9, 10 range. I kind of want to start. This is going to seem backwards, but I want to start in kind of the 20 range because I feel like that you get down to 19, 21, 23, 24. Like the thing that stands out about this, you have like on the mock drive right now, we have Derek Couriel going to the Guardians of 19. We have Justin Lebron going to the Padres at 21. We have Mason Edwards going to the Cubs at 23. He got Logan Redman going to the Mariners at 24. And there's other guys we could talk Ace Reese to the Met at 27. I bring Liam Peterson to the Astros at 28. I bring all these up because these are almost across the board. Mason Edwards is not. That's a, that's a rising guy. But a lot of these guys are guys who, at some point this season, and I just see even as you wrote up in the mock, most of the names we just mentioned there, if someone took one of those guys at 10, 11, we wouldn't be like, "Florid Shock stunned." That's, that's what I just wanted to lay out. Like you can kind of kick it to you is how much variance I have beholder uncertainty there is where it does feel like if you are picking eight and you are picking 22, I don't feel like you have that comfort level that the guy you pick at eight is a lot better than the guy you could pick at 22. That exact sentiment has been expressed to me directly by teams picking in these ranges. Teams at the top of that range may be a little bit disappointed that that's the case and teams picking at the back with extra picks kind of thinking, "Hey, however this winds up, we're gonna get a talent comparable to a back of the top 10 talent." So depending on where you're at, let's see if they're positive or negative, but in terms of projecting the first round, it does lead to a lot of uncertainty and it also means that if you're tracking kind of the movement of players in our mock drafts throughout the spring, players are, it's framed as like players rising and falling but I don't really believe there's as much of that consistent tracking as much as it's just like, "Hey, there are teams in this range 10 to 15 on the board who are interested in these profiles." After this range, teams are interested in other profiles and so the players who we had initially in that 10 to 15 spot whether they're really model heavy kind of profiles that that model teams like or whether they're really toolsy that the model teams maybe want to avoid in the traditional scouting teams are more inclined to take. I do think that and also I think we talked about this a lot throughout the spring, there's just huge variance in how one team thinks with like AJ Grossi who we mentioned, I think is a great example of this. I've heard that AJ Grossi has been scouted by all the teams in the back of the top 10 pretty seriously and then I've also heard from some teams who wouldn't take him in the first round period. And I think there are a lot of players like that in this draft, Justin Lebron, maybe the pinnacle example of this. There are a few potential landing spots still for him inside the top 10, but then you also look at his performance what he's done this year, what he's done for the last three years and understandably there are some teams that just think there's too much hit to a risk and they're not gonna take him. And so placing Justin Lebron has been one of the biggest challenges in the draft and also sorting out this call, like the college players in this class feel almost more unsettled than the high school crop, which is strange to say, but I do think it's true because there are a group of high school players starting with Joe Rojas, Trevor Condon, Jared Grindlinger, all those guys, I feel pretty comfortable about them going somewhere in the middle of the first round. That's not the case for the college players but for the college players, it really is a weekly, are you posting who's performing down the stretch? And I think that does matter with this year's group. - We have Logan Redmond right now, 24 to the mirrors and you lay out in the explainer and that's why it's again very useful to go to baseball America.com. - To read, reading and so on. - To read this because again, one thing I'll say about this is, is when this draft rolls around, right? Again, I get it, people look at Mox and they're like, okay, dude, you get the pick right, right? Justin Lebron's a perfect example of this. You just laid out whatever you put Justin Lebron in your final mock, the error bars, the very picks of variance. - He's like literally 25 picks. So if you mention him for a team at eight, but you don't put him there or nine, and then he goes eight, you can be like, oh, no, we absolutely heard that that was a possibility. We also know that there's a possibility. And by the way, the other part of this is, is there's the bonus component of this too. If you are Justin Lebron representatives and a team in the top 10 is willing to pick you and they're saying, but you're gonna take a haircut at this spot. That haircut looks really good potentially because the haircut at eight, the haircut at nine, the haircut at 10 is better than the slot as you get to like 22. - Well, I think that is an excellent point to make and maybe hammer home as we close out here. I do think the way this draft is unfolded this year is gonna lend itself towards teams all over the place hunting bargains because if you don't view separation with where you're, it's essentially like trading back in the draft that's what it's like in other classes. But if you don't think your player, the top player on your board if you're picking 10 is much different than player 15, you're gonna be hunting for deals because you wanna create savings with an equivalent talent with your first pick, push that towards players you like later on, get a bigger bulkier mortality class overall. I think that is gonna become a huge factor, whether that's with college players who have maybe not performed to the level that they expected themselves to, whether that's with high school players that are just the more typical undercloth, kind of bonus pool manipulation plays with high school hitters. I think that could be the case with this entire group of high school pitchers that could be the case. Every year we talk about how our teams are hunting deals as we approach the draft, but especially this year, I think that could create a lot of chaos and variance through the board because teams will 100% be trying to find those deals. - The Logan Redmond, like we just laid out, the variance in the error bars on him right now are so wide because Logan Redmond is not pitching at this moment. Now, if Logan Redmond, who UCLA has said, no, again, I could go into a whole thing about how, if you are UCLA, they have every incentive right now with the seating committee coming, the rankings and national seats and all that. There is no upside, again, please understand, pure speculation here, not reporting, I'm not saying Logan Redmond's heart, he's not gonna pitch again this year. I'm saying, if that was the case though, UCLA has no incentive to actually spell that out because that might be the difference between them being the number one national seat did not. We have seen this in multiple college tournament seatings that we saw it in football a couple years ago where Florida State was undefeated, but they lost their quarterback. And because they knew he was out for the years, like nope, you don't make it into the playoff. We've seen it in basketball where it's like, yes, I know that they had the resume to do it, but look what happens since they're lost their star player, they're not nearly as good. I'm not saying that he's, I'm saying like if Logan Redmond doesn't pitch the rest of the year, obviously I would say where you have him at 24, it might be even the aggressive side potentially. At the same time, if Logan Redmond comes back and pitches throughout the entirety of the postseason and leads UCLA to Omaha and has a ret louder or a Paul schemes like, you know, or a gauge wood like effort in Omaha. - Yeah, a gauge wood in Kansas. - 24 is way too low, you know, like for where he'll be. But we just don't know right now. Like that's a guy where it's like, yes, we are in May, but who knows what's going to actually, like on the field happen and how that's going to affect this? Like if we were talking five weeks ago, which we were about Tegan Coons, it'd have been like, yeah, I mean, I don't think that he's been as disappointing as maybe it's being made out to be. We're coming off of a week where Tegan Coons looks like is this guy going to end up being the number two guy in this class from the college pitching side? - The college pitching really has been like, okay, whose turn is it this week? That's really how it's felt a lot, the last several weeks. weeks and I imagine for for everything all the reasons you just laid out there, I think it continue to be the case moving forward because Cam Fluke, if he comes back and starts pitching well, he could easily be, oh, Cam Fluke, he will put him right in that right now. He's not. Exactly. So it's going to come down to health. It's going to come down to performances down the stretch. It's going to come down to who shoves in the big outings when all the scouting he is in to watch you for conference tournaments into regionals. It's going to be fascinating to track and we'll try and keep you guys up to date with with everything that's going on and how the board is shaking out as we move up to the draft. This is 3.0. I think we tend to get to six or seven total. The frequency will be increasing here as we get a little bit closer. So there are a pain to do. There are struggle to do. I want to express just the amount of uncertainty that does come once we get outside of the top 10. But we are talking to as many people as we can and trying to put together a best forecast for the first round. So that's the useful thing to lay out here. Right? Like the mock draft. I get it. That's why we're saying you need to read the reporting that is in there is more important in a lot of cases than name, right? Because you're laying out that right now there are like there are so many players that you have a special when we get into the 20s on this list, the 30s on this list where you're like, this guy could end up being a second pick guy for a team with a lot of bonus pool. Right? Or he could be a first pick guy for a team picking higher but with low bonus pool. And the thing with a lot of that is we're talking about guys where it's like, okay, if you. We just laid it out. You said like there's a lot of almost like trading down this happened. Right? Like if you are picking at the top 10, especially the back of that top 10 and you're like, there's no one here who like we are absolutely shopping for the best combination of talent and deal we can find because we think that there are 10 guys who aren't that different as far as how we line them up our board. Well, part of that where the second part of that very much is and we've got a supplemental first round pick or we pick very high in the second round or whatever like the way you laid it out to bring it back to the giants like, okay, yeah, Rochelowski not getting the four. But if you get a Logan Schmidt with that pick that you just picked up, you've now, if you say, well, what do you, I mean, like lay that out for someone like if you are the giants and in this scenario as you lay it out. So for they get lumbar right? And so which is a top of the draft talent that is not that you've gone cheap or anything like that. We just said is 100% in that top tier. But they now have money to spend and at 29, they're landing another guy who's really another not just first round talent, but clear first round talent, right? Yeah, Logan Schmidt as a guy who I think has real landing spots anywhere in the 10 to 30 range. And so if you're getting a guy and Jacob Lombard who has some of the biggest pure upside in this class overall and then you're pairing that with a top three high school pitcher in the class in Logan Schmidt. I mean, Jerohoss, Brody Bimila seemed to be ahead of him in terms of lukting a pitching, but I really don't think the talent gap between those two is significant to Logan Schmidt. He's been tremendous all spring. He throws hard. He's done a nice job improving his secondaries. I think this is a you're basically picking up this pick and I mean, it kind of makes sense. You get you pick 29. They have multiple first round picks. You wind up with multiple first round talents. But without this trade, you're you're if you're the giants, you're probably never sniffing Logan Schmidt because he's probably going to go in between their first and second round picks. I think that is just the much more likely scenario of how the giants are going to create value with this trade in this draft. So that was just one potential scenario. Okay. Couple more like to get it back to the, you know, said we're going through all. Yeah. Before we wrap up, there were the other thing that we're going to look at is there are a couple of these. There are college guys who could go at the back of this, you know, into that 30 to 40 range who are still really hard to line up and we'll do that after this one more break. So Carlos, we get to the very back of this list, the 30s. There are guys in this list who I feel like are still very hard to line up. Jared Avicula at Georgia Tech is kind of a, I would say, performance over tools, skills over tools kind of guy. He's hitting 432. It's hard to hit 432 in his seat. You know, he doesn't strike out. At the same time, he's not particularly physical. He's not particularly like, you're not like, he's not a second base for you like, well, he's playing second base, but you know, really side of mech over to short in pro ball kind of thing. I feel like though, when I look at see him at like pick 37 in the mock, I feel like that's like getting a guy like that like where you got Rocky's at 37, getting him. Getting for the Dodgers, you have Dodgers getting Eric Becker, who you kind of throw in that same group too. Eric Becker was a guy coming into the year, was thought to be very much a potential first run pick. Right. Tools are not that, you know, loud there either. You know, you got Daniel Jackson also going to the Rockies. Like the Rockies have a lot of picks back here. I feel like those are three guys who all are for different reasons kind of maybe Avicula and Jackson more than Becker. I think kind of know a little bit that Becker is kind of, but is Avicula like this here range of outcomes guy or is it something where the lack of tools probably means he's going to be that that 30 to 40 range guy? No, I've definitely heard that that he could go inside the first round and in the back of the first round. And I think that when you're looking around at the just lack of college hit tools in this classes in an area where he has a clear advantage on on most players, if you wanted to say that Jared Avicula had the best pure hit tool in this college class. I think that is a defensible take to have. And if you believe that, you think, okay, well, he maybe isn't the most toolsy player in the world, but he's a college middle and filter. We think he's going to play a premium defensive position. We think he can play that position fine. He's not going to have a ton of power. But if you look around at the the hitters that do have power in this class, there's just a lot of hit concerns, hit risks. And if you're a team that just does not want to take on hit risk with your first run pick, if you want to feel safe and comfortable that you're getting a player who's going to be productive, I think Jared Avicula at a certain stage becomes really appealing. I think generally he could easily go inside the 20s. And I think that's probably also the case with Daniel Jackson. Maybe have a little bit more tools there, different profile entirely, but these are two college performers who just because we have them right outside of the 30s does not mean I can't envision the scenario where they're going higher. I really think it's the case for for everyone that we have. Maybe outside of Luke Williams, I think Luke Williams at number 32, the Cardinals is more of like, hey, I want to kind of associate Luke Williams with the Cardinals. They have a ton of picks as well. They could get creative in how they order their players, kind of like the braze did a year ago with overslaw and underslott deals. Luke Williams maybe would be a little bit surprising. But every other player that's mentioned here in the 30s, including the college guys folding in the high school guys, we've got players like Aiden Ruiz, shortstop at a New York to the Yankees. Maybe the 100 eats who you've in your right up, you say like, it's not crazy to think the 100 eats could go significantly higher than that. No, it was even the case where like I had 100 eats in this 30s range on my board and I was like, man, like, I feel like this is too low and I'm asking around like, hey, should I have 100 eats higher at this stage? And some people like, yeah, you should. Other people are like, no, like given his medical questions like that's there. So I just feel like this maybe is just reiterating the variance of this class as a whole. I don't think it's stops at 30. I think it's expanded down maybe into the 40s. There are even players that are not on this mock. Bo Lawrence is maybe the most obvious one in South Carolina. I think Bo Lawrence is going to be really hard to sign out of college. But I also think he's being scouted in a range where I don't know exactly what this number is, but there are teams all throughout the back half of the first round that are scouting him really heavily for their first pick. So there's just a huge collection of players that have a large range. Okay, last question I'll ask you then kind of summarise this. I feel like that this is a 100% draft where it's like, okay, if you said where do you want to be in this draft? I feel world picking one or two. That's the first part because I do feel like that we have a very clear top two who are considered top talents. But more than that, like if you don't have that, which not a lot of teams have that, it's better to have like three picks in the 20 to 45 range than it is to have a pick in the eight to 10 range. Is that fair? Yeah, I think if you specifically say the eight to 10 range, once you get there, I'd rather have the volume for all the reasons we mentioned. I think for me, it's top three. Like if I can get Chalowski or Emerson or Lackie, and maybe I could even expand it out to the top five or six because I do think that top tier has separated themselves. Yeah, once once you're outside of that range, you probably do just want more picks, more bonus full money. So you can take more shots at a lot of these guys who are difficult to separate. I think that's probably fair. Cardinals, being are pretty good drafting situations. - Again, they said Rocky's pick back to back. - Rocky's picking at 10 and then what is it, 36 and 7? - 37 and 38. - 37 and 8, yeah. I think they could be in a good situation there. - The raise of, they're back at 33 after picking at two so they can do a little bit of both of this. He said pirates have a lot of picks. There are some teams that kind of fit that. And that's, but that is a perfect way to wrap this up on the baseball America draft podcast for this week. We're getting closer, still two months old. I mean, we say we're getting closer. - It's just been elevated to old draft where it's like, we're getting to conference tournament time and like, it might feel like it drags on for some people or it's getting fat. It always feels like it's like, it's imminent because there's so much we have to do before then. So it does speed up for me. So I'm grateful for the time, even though the timing is still kind of annoying. I will never forget being at the ACC tournament and I guess it would have been 2018, I think it was. And where there was like, oh, there are five catchers here who could go high. And Will Smith kind of like earned himself a good bit of money that week because he really did look like the best. But he was kind of coming from further off, right? He wasn't Zach Collins, you know, or, you know, he wasn't, there were a couple other guys. Like there were multiple first round pick catchers in that but Will Smith kind of moved himself up. It was a great reminder to me of like, this is like really an important time coming up from a draft perspective because if you, if you can really do something that stands out in the next few weeks, it has a little bit more resonance than if you did it in February or March. - Yep. - These are pressure pack situations in games that really matter and with a whole lot of people. Like there will be a lot of people in Charlotte, the ACC tournament, there will be a lot of people in Alabama, you know, at Hoover, you know, covering the, a lot of scouts will be there for the SEC tournament. A lot of these tournaments, but I would say those are the two where even more than most, there will be like wall to wall like decision makers because you can see a lot of first, second, third round talents in one spot. It's a very efficient way to do it. Even if there are always generally does seem to be a lightning delay or two, especially in the SEC. - That's true. - That pushes a game to like two in the morning or whatever. But that was our draft podcast. Thank you again for joining us. Please do, you know, leave comments. I, again, we love the comments. I've been prun respond to as many as I can on the YouTube channel, but also we appreciate all of our podcast listeners as well. And obviously check out all the content over at baseballamerica.com. So much is going on right now. So much we have, we have a new updated top 100. With the new number one now, we've, and we keep adding players. We've added some notable names and some notable rising prospects to the top 100. We have, as you're listening to this, we are finishing up updating our top 30s for all 30 organizations. Those will roll out next week as we record this. So the week of, you know, the week of conference tournament play in the draft for college conference tournament play. And we are working on updating, we are working on writing reports to get to 500 for this year's draft, but also Carlos and the team is busy at work on updating our 27 and 28 lists as well. So much stuff going on at baseballamerica.com. Thank you again for joining us for Carlos. I'm JJ. So long, everybody.