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Double Bunny With A Side Of Weave

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Double Bunny With A Side Of Weave

The podcast features a dynamic mix of humor, cultural commentary, and serious discussions. It begins with a lively conversation about a potential live-action Street Fighter movie, noting its nostalgic appeal and mixed reception. A viral moment involving Chris Monroe's failed Mandarin attempt and a joke about Diddy "taking" someone's buttocks sparks debate on authenticity and machismo. The group enthusiastically discusses Jake Paul's fight against Anthony Joshua, emphasizing the event’s massive draw due to hype and public fascination. A deeper exploration of gender roles follows, where the hosts reflect on the physical and emotional challenges of motherhood and societal expectations of men and women. The segment also delves into a real-world controversy involving Michigan football coach Sharon Moore, analyzing the power dynamics and accountability in workplace relationships. The discussion concludes with a strong tribute to LeBron James, highlighting his influence as a cultural icon and role model in sports and society, underscoring the idea that his conduct sets a standard for young athletes and public figures. Through these varied topics, the podcast blends entertainment with meaningful social commentary.

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- Yeah, it's all the main to guy, Andrew Schoen. - We are the brilliant Indian podcast, "Back to another week of brilliant Indianness" has a Kyle Walker. - What's up? - How was your weekend, sir? - Man, I don't even remember. - I don't, I don't even know what to call. - I don't remember what to call. - Genuinely, we good. - You was in LA, Street Fighter stuff? - Oh, that's right. I was in LA for the game awards. Then we dropped the Street Fighter trailer. - Funny as shit in the world, Andrew was in his shit in our movies last week, and I thought he got Street Fighter coming out. I don't know why that didn't dawn on any of us. - You know what I was saying, right? So in typical shows fashion, when in November, theaters will be back, baby. theaters will be the only ones. - Oh, but theaters are back. - Oh, they're back, they're back. - The best place to watch movies is in the motherfucking theaters, man. Trailer looks good, though. - Trailer good, I'm not gonna lie. - Trailer is good, Trailer is good. - Movies are made in the edit. That's what, you know, movies are made in the edit, but like, I think it's gonna surprise some people. - I mean, I don't see why. - Thank goodness. - It's nostalgic IP. - That's IP, that people have an emotional connection, too. You wanna go motherfucking Street Fighter. - I see. - How do you have a little live-action Street Fighter? - They did, they did, it was ass. - I don't remember that one. - John Club Van Dan played Gile. How are you gonna have the American? - I don't even remember that shit. - You know, war hero played by a guy with a French accent. - I remember the live-action Mortal Kombat, but I don't remember the live-action Street Fighter. - It wasn't that good. - I don't remember the live-action. - Chris is back! - Chris, do we have any pre-rolls? Chris was cursing someone out on the streets, man. - And it was what happened, bro. - The school does, man. - What happened, Chris? - I'm thinking how to speak Mandarin, Chris. - No, you were going crazy. - I don't know, you're not speaking Mandarin? - We heard you from up here. - What do you say, "he how?" - "He how?" - "He how?" - Can you speak into the mic, my boy? - "He how?" good people. (laughing) - Shout out to Chris. - Shout out to Chris. - Shout out to Chris Monroe. - What the fuck, man? That was something I was just thinking about. And the fuck I slipped my mind, just that fucking fast. Oh, this weekend, Jake Paul dies. Not literally, but figuratively, it's out. - Yo, it's over. - Shout out Jake Paul, bro. - Listen, I got nothing but respect for Jake Paul. - 'Cause I told you all before, I like my white boys that aren't afraid to die. I like the white boys that really white boys. Scream, sports, extreme activity. - This is Jackass level shit. - Oh, man. - Oh, please. - I ain't never done nothing like this. - It was never think of it. - No, no, no, no. - Taking on a world champion boxer. - Two-time Olympic, I mean, not two-time. Two-time heavyweight champion, Olympic boxer. Who's what, 36, 37 years old? Like Anthony Joshua is not Mike Tyson. Anthony God bless Mike Tyson with Mike Tyson back there, but I'm saying he's not an old man. Anthony Joshua is still active right now. He's lost four fights in his career. Two of them have been to a guy that some people might say is a top five heavyweight of all time, U6. The other was Daniel Dubois, the other was Ruiz, okay? - Hey, from what I'm told, they both getting paid like 90 to $95 million a piece. - Wow. - Nah. - Yeah. - Shout out both of them. Get your money. - They say 100, they say the person's 180 between both of them. - Get your money. - 'Cause I don't think people realize how big of a draw Anthony Joshua is. He is a huge boxer in the UK. - No, no, Anthony's a huge draw. - He's got like eight fights that have broken over a million in paper. - There's no question. - He's a massive star in boxing, but I think the draw of this fight is Jake is going up against someone that people feel confident will beat him. - Absolutely, but you gotta give Jake credit because he built up the hype. - Yes, but also Anthony Joshua is a huge boxer in the UK. - Yes. - You know, like, of course. - Of course, locally this is gonna be massive. - Of course, what I'm saying is Anthony Joshua, if he was fighting some tomato candy, like none of us ever heard of. Like if, put it this way, if Anthony Joshua was fighting a boxer and had the exact same amount of experience as Jake Paul without Jake Paul's name, - Nobody would care. - Nobody would even buy the fight. So that's why I'm giving the majority of the credit here for Jake because you open his combo with Jake dies. That is, it's like back when Mayweather people would pay to see him lose. They were hoping. - No, this is different though. It's one thing to hope that somebody lose. I don't, 'cause I'm not a guy that just likes Jake Paul, but I also do like a car wreck. Meaning, you know how you be scrolling online some time and you'll see the headline, man gets ran over by car, but it lives. You wanna watch 'cause you're like, okay, it's not that bad, he didn't die. But you do wanna see our hard-to-car hits. - I don't even need butt-lips. (laughs) - You know, I can't watch the death. I don't like that. - Yeah, yeah. - Me neither, yeah, I don't like that. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. But this is gonna be something else, bro. - Bro, it's Friday, by the way. - I'm here. - I'm watching. - I'm all in. By the way, I watch all Jake Paul fights anyway. Also, I watch Jake Paul and Tyson Fury. - That's what I'm sure. It's like, what was Fury's brother name, I can't remember right now. - Tommy. - Tommy Fury. But I'm watching and it's gonna be entertaining. That we know. Yo, the most entertaining thing about the last Jake Paul fight with Mike Tyson, it wasn't even a fight. It was everything leading up to it. - Build up. - The build up to it. - But what's crazy about the car and Mike Tyson and the fucking dressing room with his cheeks out. This, we got, you know what I'm saying, Mike Tyson and the dressing room with his cheeks, I was worth the price of a mission. I rewind that in my head all the time, not 'cause of Tyson's cheeks, 'cause of Tyson when he goes, vicious, vicious. He's like, what's your prediction? It's like vicious, vicious knockout. - Vicious one. - And he just says it was so much confidence and just turns around and nobody wants to tell Mike his cheeks around. Mike is still so intimidating to this day that nobody wants to say, "Hey, man, Mike, you got a dog on him." (laughing) Nobody wants to even say it. - Facts. - But we watching, man, 2019. I mean, December 2019. What is it? - No, it's December 19th. - December 19th. - No, 'cause Taylor was typing in the headline that fucking threw me off just now. Did he took my ass? - Oh. - Yeah, that was a little distracting, I'm not gonna lie. - What do you mean? What do you mean? - What do you mean, did he took my ass? - Yo, clip. - Who's that? Did he take my ass? - Did he take that right? - We normalized this. Why, why is this just a regular headline? Did he took my ass? - Yeah, we need to start with that right there. Play Taylor, press play. Who's asked it, did he take? How can he take this from somebody from jail? Pause, RayJay says, what? - Oh, come on, not, not RayJay. - Pause, RayJay says his ass hole has been runny ever since Diddy took it. - Whoa. - Press play here. There's no way this is through here. - RayJay was using jail for 12 hours. - All I saw was we do not condone booty taking our violence. - What the fuck? Is that how people got a preference? You know, that's how you preface Diddy posts nowadays? We, that's the type of disclaimers you got to have with Diddy posts? - Nah. - We do not condone booty taking our violence. - What did this thing ever in my life? - Should I say, I have to take this. - Everybody here, for everybody that has got one. - But girl, my shit running. But Diddy, yo, Diddy took my ass. (all laughing) - That shit, you can't hold it up my ass. My shit been runny ever since. My ass opened open for it and it's been ever in my life, Ray. When I try to fart, my shit come out. It's crazy. - No, I didn't kill. - All right, so can we get through? - Thank you. - It's serious. (all laughing) That's all you gotta say. Let's send you a statue. Behind the gate, just say, Diddy made you up. Like, what did you say, Diddy? - What you recording me? - Nah, were you? - I told you, Diddy took me. - Shout out white boys fun, man. You know, we changed the world, dude. - Any white boy fun? - That's white boy fun. - Sean having that type of fun way before y'all. - Nah, you don't think he actually cracked Ray J. - No, I don't. - Oh, Ray J's having some white boy fun. - I don't know, I don't think that now is the time to play about something like that. - That now is the best time to play. - Now is the best time. - Now is not the time to play about that, Ray. - That's not the first time he said that though. - It is it? - When he was on that news, Diddy, he like say something about when he was going on like a news network. - Oh yeah, I think Ray was playing. But I also think that he could have been mocking somebody and we just caught him in the middle of mocking. Like, you know, like, like a lot of people like, you know, if I'm trying to clown a little rod of somebody, like, are any of the guys that said, Diddy took advantage of them? - Yeah. - Could he be making fun of them? Or is he, is that like first person experience? - Hmm, he's joking about it a lot, man. - I mean, 'cause it's the number one fucking show in 50 countries. - It is. - Maybe he's trying to say something. - Man, get out of here, stop. - What do you mean? - Stop, stop. Nah, Ray, I ain't get this, she took, man. - No way, not by Diddy. - And if Ray did, he would, - No, I mean, like that, I don't mean it like that. - Why do you even need to add that whole part to the set? - I'm just saying, Ray wouldn't do it on that platform. Ray would do something way bigger than just give it some information like that up. - Yeah, he would find way to, yeah. Ray would do that, bro. Should we call Ray? - Yeah. - I don't wanna see. - Yeah, I think we need to, I think we need to get to the bottom as well. - Just put it, just make sure you put it kind of by your mic. - Mostly he is. - Yeah, let me see, bro. Let me see if Ray picked up the phone, man. It's just a shame I got too many numbers on Ray Ja. Oh, look, let me see. I just gotta ask, it's my, I don't wanna just, a soul. Let me see if he picks up. (phone ringing) - What time is it out there? - 1 o'clock, 1'30. - Oh. - Your call has been from it to voicemail. He sent me to voicemail because he knows I'm going to ask him Hit him one more time so he feels like it's an emergency Thing you would call him in the morning. Not right now. That's true. That is true All right, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute Merry Christmas everybody. Happy quanta. What are y'all doing for the holiday? Anything Taylor celebrating Kwanza for the first time in her life. No, I've been celebrating Kwanza I haven't done it in a long time. I have how do you celebrate people the experience of your birth yet? Y'all asked me. I did tell y'all you told the whole story What's the whole not the thing that the story came in here saying that was crazy teller do not say that again What did I say? About the big birth canal Top of the year we're gonna we're gonna do the contractions for sure Oh, she wants to put a contraction out because now I felt it and now Y'all go feel it too Y'all I want that for my birthday, but you guys are built for pain. We're not built for pain. No No, no, you are built for pain women can endure way more pain I don't understand the contraction thing for guys. We're not supposed to feel like it's not up for everything about your lives It's painful walking in heels the cramps, you know I got me y'all like we're not supposed to bleed once a month and when you're not bleeding You're either in a bad mood or you're upset about it Wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute Wait a minute your life is pain. It's one of the most. It's one of the things that makes me so with no day That was done But isn't that why women are so resilient is because you can put up with that five talk you can't say like We don't compare anything that we complain about everything we complain with my hungry can't blame over time We complain when we're cold complain about cramps. We don't complain about you know Contractions contractions. We don't complain about friends. We never I'd never dispute women when they tell me how I'm not a single I can only imagine I've seen it done But it wouldn't be the same not the same. Yeah, that's not your bill for it is what we're saying you're bill for it Your body's for barely. That's it hurts for real To push my son out, but he was not dilating so Yeah, and you're not you're not you're not died. You weren't you weren't big enough Yeah, finally That's you're not big enough Finally I'm getting us back and get you back for every man that's ever been told they got just not Everybody whatever you never told you sound as podcast instead of a dig a 12 inches It's not big enough with God is insane. There's not even human beings with dick Ten inches is you literally you're part another animal but I know it's We respect mothers on his one thing but ten inches going in is one thing seven pounds five ounces coming out of the nothing That's another thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Trying to tell all these big meat dudes. Y'all swear y'all doing something. Please nothing, please They push out something that is pounds and ounces. That's right. Put your dick on a scale. Okay I'll get out Whoa, I don't care how long it is I don't care wait a minute Put your penis on a scale and then you'll realize how you don't What's his name? He's like what to push you on live right now Put the on live right now Put the on live right now. Put your dick on the scale right now. Give you see How much you give him for dick on a scale? I don't know. Pay him paying what I wait That's what you would do right if I was paying for this. I'll be like putting on the scale on the scale I'll pay about a pound exactly I'm not gonna pay nothing. No, that's a great point. You know, saying a dick ain't gonna weigh a pound after going through pregnancy Has there ever been a dick? The dick ain't even a preemie boy. It really ain't you know what I'm saying as they're ever been is there ever been a Painful is pregnancy. What's the question you said? What has there ever been a dick is painful is pregnancy? I Don't know what you're talking about Tell us all grown up We love that that's growth right there. How has it been that's been growth It's great. I honestly like I miss him right now. It's not and I'm glad I don't Salute to all the single women, but I don't know how it would be taking care of myself without you don't want to be a part I was saying second you have a kid. I'm gonna say I don't know how like it's impossible, right? Yeah, like it's it's truly any single one of it single parent It's single. Yeah, it is impossible But what I'm not trying to say I'm trying to like give them credit for the fact that it happened how difficult it is so Difficult like you get why they say like the the key to success for any kid is it's not money It's like two parents in the household. Yeah, three parents in a house four parents in a house Like the most my support team helps a lot. Oh, it's unbelievable. So your mom is around a house His mom helps amazing. Yeah, and you guys get along everybody gets along I think that I think that's been like one of the rises and lesbian relationship I'm serious because women don't want to be nothing else is you know what I mean? Like so I got to get these two incomes in the house. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, that's what I really believe yeah That's why they're on that eucalyptus all the time Wait, you think lesbians are getting together so they're not single months well According According to the Literally, there's an issue with the lesbian couples and they're like almost addicted to eucalyptus for it. Wait like what you can let this Fuck I heard it the first time you ignored it because that could the way he wasn't looking at me So I'm like he's directing it to the room. So whoever's done me to fall for this one. You deserve That's right saying it. I thought about it. Yeah, you both want to start dick under them. Oh my gosh By the way, miss a little miss a toy and give us to give a blow. That's what lesbians call clits Oh look You'll come here rub your mistletoe on my mistletoe According to self-magazine They say best friends are the new boyfriend. They say what best friends are the new boyfriend. No, we're not doing all of it What's that mean best friends are the new boyfriend? I Women girl. Yeah Women I think that you should be your woman's best friend, but you're probably not like that's it That's a that's a tough pill for me in the swallow. I think that we're like best friends, but in a different way That's a tough pill for women swallow Regina. How I think said that like I think women are hurt when they find out Maybe they're not our best friend Whereas I don't think dudes are And maybe I don't have I don't have a what I think they would be heard if you had like a girl best I don't have a girl best friend. You know what I mean? Obviously, but I'm just saying Well like what would that even pay like a few like a few like a few like but your if your woman had like a male best friend You wouldn't you'd be like not get the fuck out of here. I would not actually know my girl. My girl does have a male best friend He's gayly. He's gay. Yeah, that's different. Why is that different? He's gay But he's male. That don't mean anything. You know the one she really figured it out. What you mean? Well, she found a way to get someone who's interesting and Not trying to fuck her. Yes, that's usually how it works when you got a gay best friend That's what I'm saying, but like I get my girls have gay best friends. That's our best friend. No. Yeah. Oh So I'm thinking about like your bet like the you know your woman's best friend that she grew up with I want the college with They do the same. Oh, okay. That makes sense. All right. Okay. Not that makes sense. All right. Okay. Okay. Wait But wouldn't you want a male best friend like Well, it doesn't everybody want that. That's quite a crazy though because you know that you know She when y'all first met she was talking to him about you meet. Oh, of course. Oh my god. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's exactly things hair Yeah, absolutely all that you probably said you look like you're not packing as you like he is Would you also think y'all wives of y'all best friend? Huh? No, say y'all wives of y'all my wife is my best friend for sure. My wife is my wife is my best friend. Is your wife saying the same thing about you? Um. I don't know because I'm only asking because Regina Hall said that with your best friend wait 17 years to marry you She's And it wasn't 17 but that don't count with me. That's friendship. No. This is don't count. This is real friends. You were a high school That's a real count. It's okay. It don't count. It don't count. Oh now we got technicalities now We're 19 second once again, man. We were 19. Oh, you get married maybe six seven years in I think we did though. Oh, God, I'm not doing this. We're not going to start the point. We're not going to end the year like this. And now it's gone. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I was asking this because you know how I said, the wives or a husband would say that I miss you on the pod. I miss your energy. I just miss you. We're going to add the clip to it, but what you say? She said, basically, that a husband would say that the wife is their best friend, but a wife would say another female. There was a study. If you ask men who their best friend is most of them say their wives, and if you ask a woman, she's really got her friends. She's like, Lisa, you know? Man, I'm telling you. I mean, but probably, you know, it's a different-- No way. Like, husband is an all-encompassing thing. Like, I'm the best friend. I'm the protector. I'm the provider. I'm a different level. But you do probably have a best friend that you talk that shit with, but also it's probably you. She probably likes to talk that shit with you. We do. And you probably slinging that thing, still. But it's also things that-- Linging that thing, still? Do you have a male best friend now? It's working. Oh my god. We all twerk. You don't ever think about that, do you? Think about that next time you have some cheeks. Next time you twerk it. Yeah, do it twerk it. Do it twerk it. Do it twerk it. You'll never want to admit it, but you'll be back then twerk it. If you've got to throw it, if you've got to throw it, it's work, man. Throw all the men out there with a mean twerk. Me twerk. Throw it back for you. Y'all don't never want to call things what they are. It means stroke it. No, it's not. It's work. It's work, right it. It's work. Yes, dude. Better than making a style you ever could. Hanging style. And don't be standing up, hitting it from the back. Oh my god. That's all twerk. All twerk action. That's all twerk. All twerk action. You really trying to go in there, really trying to, if you're trying to see the back, is it? I bet you, I bet you, if you ever get in the room full of mirrors and you can look around yourself in the mirror. You'll stop, stop. You'll stop. I like myself in the mirror and I was like, "Yo, why do you get back so strong?" You get back straight, and don't have some cheeks like me. Cheeks. There was going crazy. They were open. What? They were open. Oh no. They were now open. They were opening. Oh my god. Yeah. Be cheeks open. Shout out to everybody, twerker for the holidays. Yo. Okay. That's how you know you're a narcissist. Twerker for the holidays. You watching yourself, fuck, and you looking at you. No. That's when I came to that conclusion. I'm like, I am twerking my ass. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like a mother fuck. Hey, right? Right way into it or click this. You know, put this out this week. We dare you. Listen. I'm just letting all the guys know about this. Stop saying you don't twerk. Just embrace the twerk. Okay. Every man twerks when they have some cheeks. Don't win them. You would perform that out. I think I have this conversation with my hands. I'm trying to twerk up. What do you mean? I told them, yo, I'm talking about saying the same thing. What? You tell them twerk? No, I don't tell them the twerk. I didn't tell them. I didn't tell them the twerk. You can't tell them the twerk. I told you so. What you mean. I saw you back there. You were just kidding. Oh, my goodness. What else we got Taylor gang? Before I get to that speaking of twerk in the sense. What is this Taylor? Taylor had a lot of you so crazy. Oh, hilarious. Caught in the snow. So behind. You like the headlight, right? Dr. Uma speaks on ex Michigan coach, Sharon Moore, that got fired. Oh, no. Do you want to do the behind the back story? Oh, the back story is the University of Michigan, former University of Michigan football coach, Sharon Moore. He was criminally charged following allegations involving a woman he previously had a personal relationship with was later identified in reports as a university staff member, according to prosecutors, the relationship ended, but more allegedly continued contacting a woman, despite her wishes, which authorities say escalated into repeating unwanted contact. He has accused of entering or attempting to enter her residence without permission. Oh, no. Eating the charges that include home invasion, stalking, and breaking and entering. Moore with a random court released on bond and a judge reportedly issued a no contact order at the University of Michigan had previously fired more following an internal investigation related to the relationship. Now, he's also married, when I think three kids, I believe. That's sad. Yeah. What did Dr. Uma have to. Well, let's hear what Dr. Uma had to say. Every bad mistake cheating on a snow bunny while married to another snow bunny. He got double-bunny. He's the first person. I know we got double-bunny. What's double-bunny? Well, they got a snow bunny at home cheating on her with another snow bunny. You know, but I wish the brother the best. And guess what? He got fired. She still got her job. No. Snow bunny trying to fit mages. Shannon Shaw. The head coach to the University of Michigan, Wolverine Tiger Woods. We could be here all night on the list of black men who've been snow bunny in the 21st century. Don't get snow bunny. You respect everybody. The only white woman in the chat. I got nothing but respect for you. But black men have to learn to stick to black women. Otherwise, you're going to keep on getting our pockets snatched out. Yeah, right. And guess how much he was making? How much? Six million dollars a year. Oh, my God. Do you know how much that is? That's a half million dollar paycheck a month. Yeah, you can't lose that job. Well, listen, it's a couple of things to talk about. Let's talk about them. That double bunny is crazy. When he says that, you know, black men got to stick with black women. Like, I do like to see black men with black women. But the real moral is, if you're a married man, don't cheat. That's where the problems come into play. If you're a married man and if you have made that commitment, don't cheat. We've had this conversation a million times. I've told y'all a million times. And I'm nine years clean. But when I start, yes, God damn it. Okay. Yes. Yes. Yes, the fuck, yes. Yo, I love this. I want a coin. God damn it. Yes, I deserve it. Yes, I do. And this is something that only men can understand. I ain't saying that. And I know y'all out there right now. Mother fucker, you don't get credit for what you're supposed to do. You're right. But-- But I'm still giving myself some credit. All right. Listen, I want to give you credit. I want to give you credit. Nine years. And in those nine years, my life has done nothing but this. Think about it. Nothing but this, nothing but this. Nothing but this. And when I see situations like this, it's just the mother fucker reminder. And he had too much time in the hands. You say what? And that she had too much time in the hands. What's their record? What's the team's record? Because it was like nine and four this year. So you-- I mean, it was like-- I think it was like nine and four, I think. And it was like nine and four. That requires a lot of time coaching a football team. So-- so I want it-- Like, when he-- It's not about the race of the woman in this situation. Number one, don't cheat. Number two, he brings up a very valid point, which I didn't know. He said the woman still has her job. She should not still have her job. Why? Because there should be rules. And I'm sure there are. She was a subordinate to him, though. But it shouldn't be that way. You still make a choice. Yeah. I understand the power dynamic. Yeah. But you-- She didn't break into his house. Yeah, but-- You got fired because of the relationship. No, he got fired because of-- No, no, no, no. The University of Michigan had previously fired more following an internal investigation related to the relationship. Yeah. They got fired because of the relationship. So if the relationship is inappropriate, it takes two to be in a relationship. So neither one of them should be working for the University of Michigan. That was good box, though. He said, what? That was good box. To make them go that crazy. Lose six million and break it to the house. I don't know. Okay, Alex. No? Yeah. Alex. Okay. Explain how it's like. No, I just think. Like, that's a lot-- he's throwing his life away. He is throwing his life away as a ability to provide for his family. Okay, I get what Alex is saying, you know. But you do your life away the moment you decided to cheat on your wife with somebody you work with. There should be accountability for the person that works with that. Yeah. Actually-- Listen, people are going to disagree with this and they're going to say there's a power dynamic of this at the other, but I will say if both were held accountable, it would limit the amount of relationships that happen at work. There's really no cost for somebody that's below you in the power dynamic at work to try to even have a relationship with you. Because if it doesn't work out, they're not punished at all. If it does work out, they get to come with you. And if they don't like it anymore, you get fired. And guess what's even better? And guess what's even better in environments like this? If he hits on her, she's like, what the fuck are you doing? You and married man, we work together, blah, blah. Soon as she reports that he's in trouble. That is the protective thing. The reason why these rules came into play is because they were not protected in the past. But now, really, the university takes it so seriously that she could go up and tell the university and they would fire him. So now that we do have that protection for women, then we can hold them equally accountable. Yes, because the key word is-- No, yes or no. In theory. Now, we also know some of these institutions that had coach of like Alabama could murder somebody and nobody would do shit. We do know that that happened. That happened? Not murder, but like-- Oh. I mean, you know, shit has been swept out of the room. You're a young woman, the idea of reporting the football coach of a major college program is going to be a pretty intimidating thing. But clearly she did. She did. Clearly, she did if they had an internal investigation into the inappropriate relationship and he was terminated prior to this incident. Why would you report somebody that you were willingly sleeping with? Shit, shit, shit. - Because he broke in, I'm assuming like, after he broke in, then she was like, oh my God. - That's what all of a sudden, it says that he was, she, she, go back up, let me read it again. You don't go to the other one, you clicked on it, 'cause they had the whole story in, 'cause basically what she was saying was, yes, this one. According to prosecutors, the relationship ended, but more allegedly continued contacting the woman despite her wishes. - Yeah, that's. - Which authority say escalated into repeated unwanted contact? - Yeah, that's what I mean. - That's what we're saying. - There's harassing her. - Yeah, yeah. - So she worked it off. - Yeah, but he's, my point is, she reported is what I'm saying. - Yeah, of course, yeah, yeah, yeah. - But he's firing was for the harassment, not the relationship. - Is it? - Yeah. - That's what I assume. - I worked at a company where something like that. - Well, you said, it said the University of Michigan had previously fired more following an internal investigation related to the relationship. What does that mean? - I'm assuming the relationship, this internal investigation is they found out that he continued to contact her and she said, don't contact me. He's coming to show up at her house, et cetera. - No, you don't think that, you don't think that she should be held accountable in any way she before? - She should. - It's not about whether she should or shouldn't. - 'Cause we're always told that those relationships are inappropriate, period. - I don't think. - The goal is that he was harassing her and that. - Yeah, yeah. - I mean, I don't think, I think she should have waited to see it at the season. (laughing) - I think that, you know, if you're a team player here and you're, you want Michigan to win, or a competitive motivation. - You know, but you're gonna be a distraction. You're gonna be a distraction for this team that's, you know, maybe there's a bowl game at play. - There's a lot of words that I don't like. According to the prosecutor, the relationship ended, but more allegedly continued contact than woman despite her wishes, wishes, which authorities say escalated into repeated, unwanted contact. - So that's the harassment. - But isn't the relationship inappropriate even when the contact is wanted? - I think, - Wait, is it the relationship in a appropriate case? - Even when the contact is wanted? - So you could punish her for the relationship, we can find out whatever that is. I'm sure that you don't, I don't know, I'm not sure, but I imagine you don't get fired for having a consensual relationship at work, but maybe there is some punitive measure taking place. But harassing another employee, even if it's not sexual, just harassing that person, bullying them, like that's a fireable offense. And according to this investigation, they felt like that was something that he was doing. That's what I'm, that's how I'm reading. - No, I get it, I get it. - I mean, I agree that this probably wouldn't have escalated to this point if they had just got caught cheating. - Yeah. - If they had just got caught cheating, I don't even know if he loses his job. - Right, 'cause the guy, the guy with the Boston Celtics, right? - But I think in that situation, he was messing with one of the executives, well, I don't know if that's true. And that's what they would say. - He was messing with another employee's wife. - But my point is, he got another job in NBA. He's with the rockets right now. - Dirty work, though. - What happened? - That's dirty work. Smash and like one of your employees ex, like wives, current wife? - That's that. - Yeah, this is point. I gotta see her. (laughing) - I like to see why people make the mistakes they make. - You know what I'm saying? - Yeah. Sometimes you'd be like, - We gotta see if it was worth it. - It's not never worth it. - Never worth it. - It's what I'm saying. - Yeah, also she's throwing a biscuit at it. - I don't wanna see you. - I wanna see you. - We gotta see you. - You don't wanna see me. - We gotta see you. - I mean see you. - The reason why they're showing us the pictures and see that anywhere. - The middle one? - Neither one. - Wow, neither one. - Yeah. - The middle one is the wife is the one he's in the picture with. - That's a girlfriend right there. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - That's the girl. - God damn, man. All I'm saying is, yes, clearly we've had enough examples to see that these relationships are inappropriate. When you have somebody that's the head coach, - You know what I'm saying? - You're the best one. - Assistant blah, blah, blah, this and that. But there's gotta be rules all across the board for everybody. - Double bunny, man. - I guess he was paying her this chart show that he was paying her. - Paying her what? - I'm not sure which one. - Nine. - Oh, right. - Nah. - Yeah, he's paying her to keep quiet. - Yeah. - But she works for the team. So why is that him paying her? - Is he paying her extra? - Yeah, that's what they were saying. - So we can agree that there should be consequences for both parties. - Yes. - Yes, man. - Yes. - Yes, it's tough when you're dealing with consensual adults, man. It's tough. But more penalty for the person who's higher. - Here's the thing Alex, there's more penalty for him 'cause he got more to lose anyway. He's the one who lost a $6 million a year job. He's no longer the university. If you've missed the head coach. - If you penalize them equally and you actually, no, I know, but if you actually penalize them, the problem is is that we know that there are institutions and people that are so important to those institutions, they're like too big to fail, so they'll be protected. But if you were to actually penalize the employees equally, it wouldn't really matter the power dynamic because the second someone felt uncomfortable, they could talk to HR. - No, but look, here's the scenario. What if the boss is like, you better sleep with me. If you don't sleep with me, I'ma fire you. - You sound like this. - And then, no, no, but look. - It goes back to exactly what they said last week. - But then if you sleep with him, then it's like, oh, you better not say nothing 'cause if I say anything, we both get applied. - Man, look at that. - Like that's a lose, lose for the-- - Go back to what I said last week. Stop compromising yourself with positions, man. - Yeah. - Stop. - Like there's a lot of girls out there too. Like you don't have to clap someone who works with you. - And we use that excuse all the time in this, and listen, I understand the power dynamic, and I understand that people feel pressured to do certain things. I am here to tell those people you don't have to do that. Blow these motherfuckers spots up. Blow 'em up. What are you gonna do? Try to kill you after you done blew their spot up? - But that's a lot. - If you're just someone minding your business at a company and a superior comes after you at a Christmas party. - Yeah. - So how does it ever stop, Chris? - But look, she blew-- - How does it ever stop? How does it ever stop? - I don't know. I mean, this is my first corporate job. A older guy took me a side. He's like, that's ideal for him. - You know, he gave me advice. He gave me advice. - No, no. - No, no, no, no, no. - You gotta learn to talk. - Yeah. - Wait, wait, wait. - I thought he tried you, Chris. - He took me a side. - What if Russell Simmons do you? - Yeah. - Tell us what Russell Simmons did. - He wrote this one day during the high, it was after high, y'all bet. - How bad you want to write this book about me? - Telling Russell really got a thing for Asians, huh? (laughing) 'Cause I want you-- - Oh, that's cool. - Hold on. What did the whole guy say that you don't Chris? - Yo. - Don't shit where you eat. - Yeah. - And that's the moral of the story. - Dude, you guys should have got married. You could be, uh, Kim Morro, Lee Simmons. (laughing) - Chris Morro, Lee Simmons, it's hilarious. Chris Morro, Lee Simmons. - Oh my god, listen. Listen, Chris is absolutely right. But, but this is what we got out doing. And this is actually a continuation kinda of the conversation we was having last week. 'Cause I was saying this to people all weekend. It's like, yo, at some point we gotta stop making excuses for why people end up making these decisions and choices and let them know they don't have to make that decision and that choice. - Yo, you know what? - Blow them up. There's nothing in the music industry worth that. There's nothing at the university in Michigan worth that. - She blew a spot up and then he went and broke into a house and like harassed it. - That's his dumb ass. - But I'm saying, like, every time. - By the way, I'm not, everything he's not saying that that's okay. - Yeah, he's saying that she was also involved in an inappropriate relationship and there should be some punish for that. - That's right. - I think we before to break it in when it was the wanted contact. - Yeah, that's fair. - If it's wrong across the board for people to be dating in those situations, it can't just be based off the power dynamic. - It's gonna always be an unequal power dynamic. - If she admits if she goes, yeah, it was consensual in the beginning, then you gotta go, all right, well then you have to leave as well. You're not allowed to fraternize with an opponent. - And it's simple as that. - But now what you're doing is putting her in a situation where it's advantageous for her to say it was not consensual in the beginning and I felt pressured based on a power dynamic. - To keep her done. - And now she might be stretching the truth just to keep her job. - Yo, these things are tricky. These things are very tricky. - No, it's tricky when it's the man and the woman. And this is why sometimes I like to see these roles reverse to see how everybody backtracks on all of the things they've been. - Have you ever experienced anything like that? - Of course. People ain't never consistent in a show like this when you flip the dynamic. If it was a woman in that power dynamic with a guy, then nobody would give a fuck. - Give us a hypothetical about that. (laughing) - Merry fucking Christmas! - Happy Hanukkah. - We're out here, baby. - Going out with a bang. (upbeat music) - What else we got to look at you? - So this is "In Every You" and "Dolly" did. - Back to September with Axios. - Yes. - And they're asking about your contract and you weave joy out. - I don't even remember this. (laughing) - So as you mentioned, I mean, it was 2020 when you started it. And I believe it was a five year deal. So your renewal is coming up with "I Heart." Do you plan to renew? - You know what's so interesting about 2020? That it was COVID, right? And so being at it was COVID like everybody that I reached out to said yes to the black effect podcast network. And that's why we were able to launch with 20 plus different podcast, but that's crazy, you knew that. - I don't know how you know this. - Because when the press release says it was a five year deal and the press release came out December 2020. - Yeah. - And we're almost there. - So guys, Kerry can read. - Kerry can read. - That's amazing. - We learned anything today. So I don't think. You answered my question. Yeah, you call that the weave, you know? Yeah. The bob and weave. Yeah, saw Donald Trump say that on Flaker in the weave. Yes, sir. So we-- Don't-- What do you mean? Can you answer the question? Can you repeat the question? The question is, you're deal with IHR expires at the end of this year. Are you going to renew with IHR? Why not? I don't like to talk business. It's not the place to talk business, is it? I have a lot of time to decide that. We have a lot of time to decide that. So we'll let you know in December 31st, at 11.59 p.m. It seems, what you-- Good answer. What you guys are kind of alluding, though, is that you're talking around. Like you're absolutely right. I'm not alluding enough. OK. You don't weave it. Now you're doing the duggy. There are options outside of IHR as seems to be what we're hearing. Any news on that? We've been back. Any news on that? It's December, man. Any news to drop? It's not at 31st, yet. Still weaving. There's no news to drop, Dave. Still weaving. Subscribed to my YouTube, man. See the God, C-T-H-A-G-O-D, man. Subscribed to my YouTube, OK? I'm going to need to subscribe and subscribe to my YouTube. See the God, C-T-H-A-G-O-D. Can you hear me listening to Black Effect Network? LeBron bitching again. What we got to tell her? LeBron was bitching, bro. What was he saying? He was. I saw this thing. He said, "I'm fucking talking about." This was weird, bro. Like, I've never seen LeBron act like this. I'm wondering if LeBron-- No, no, no, no, no. Like this-- I haven't seen it. But he does bitch a lot, though. Dylan Brook just slapped the ball at him and then they got in his face a little bit. And then he's pushed-- Why are you grabbing the wrist like that, though? That was wild. Title meant. I'm surprised they didn't issue him to kick him off. No, that's crazy. That was wild. Putting his hand on the ref? That was wild. Wow, wow. Now, do you get to earn that treatment, though? Yes. Like, if you're in the league at 40, what is he? One year's old. Yeah, but he shouldn't know about it in the grab. Yeah. Bitching. I think you guys make a big deal out of this. Yeah. He's making a big deal out of it. Look at that comment. The damn, he grabbed the ref like he was brawny. [LAUGHTER] This is very interesting. It's going to be very interesting to see-- He got a tech, though, right? How-- I don't even think he got a tech. I don't know. He did get a tech. He did get a tech. Look at his friend holding him back. I just don't know why he would do that to the ref. And I don't understand what Dylan Brooks did that LeBron has through the thing. He did. He just tried to-- What's-- Dylan Brooks did a completely normal smart play. That's what I'm saying. I don't give it. Then he bumped into him like-- That's why he doesn't know him. Like, boy. What is it? He hit him with a little bow. Oh, I thought he was upset that the-- Oh, I thought he was upset he bounced the ball off. That's what it looked like. I think it's a bow. No, I didn't see a elbow or anything. He was already upset. He's kind of off-screen, but he just bumps him. Look at the veteran. Like, like, LeBron has seen it all in the NBA. That shouldn't get him crazy like that. It's hard to get old. You think so? Yeah. It is, bro. That's what I'm starting to think. I'm starting to think that he-- No, brother, the last time I used to play ball, I just want to fight, because these guys are running around you. You don't have the skills you used to have. You don't have the ability. You used to have very frustrating-- You think the Rondo got the skills? And this is the first time I think LeBron has been in this position. Like, LeBron might be-- I think LeBron's like the third option on the lake right now. Good, though, because it's Lucas. It's Austin Rees. And then it's probably, bro. But I think that's-- I thought he was your tying, anyway. No, no. You got nothing. He'll probably finish this year and maybe do one more. And I feel like him and Brooks have always had, like, a little-- Yeah, yeah. That's just, like, any little thing is going to set it up. Yeah, but not like that, bro. He grabbed a breath on putting it on arm. Like, he could smell it. He could smell his fingers right now. It smelled his armpits, if you wanted to, bro. He is. But he's getting LeBron calls, because that-- anybody else, that would have been injection. That was wild, bro. Who throws worse tantrums? Your daughter or LeBron? Yeah. That's-- I don't think LeBron's-- He would throw in tantrums. Yeah, I don't think-- I wouldn't say he throws tantrums. Bro. Kobe would never. This LeBron is singular, bro. As far as what? Like, this is the worst thing that he does. Oh, yeah. Like, a guy that's had all the pressure since he's fucking 14 years old, the worst thing that he does is, like, lightly grab a breath by the arm as he's frustrated with another player. Like, it's almost like he's a victim of how good a guy he's been. 100%. You know, like, if this was Dennis Robman, we wouldn't even be reporting it. No, you're right. Right? If it wasn't a non-curse. That's it. If you had a non-curse, you're like, what the hell am I saying? Like, yeah, it's exactly right. He's been that pious. He's been that, you know, good for the league. He's done nothing but uplift the whole league. So when he does this little thing, it becomes news. I mean, that's why I don't think people LeBron gets enough credit. And that's the thing that people-- I agree, bro. Like, when it comes to reading, like, Jordan, we study his game and, you know, he's the bar for that. LeBron should be the bar for how to start young, exceed expectations, and keep your head through all of it. Yeah. LeBron's never had him made his game. We just-- we just did a story about the University of Michigan coach, 39 years old, you know what I'm saying? Just lost everything. LeBron has never been involved in any type of stuff like that, nothing. That's what he studied. The worst thing he did was he was going to Miami. That we accepted his fact or just a situation now. But you got to remember, he got a ton of criticism for making his inner circle the guys that he came up with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, that was highly controversial at the time. It's a big mistake. No one's going to hold him accountable. They don't have the information, the know-how. He knew what he was doing. And now they're the bar, right? Now, it clutches the bar. Now, are you right? 100%. We represent a whole bunch of players, other than Brown. But like, he should be the-- LeBron James should be the bar. Like, when you, now, you bring these young kids and the NBA and the NFL and teach them what to do and how to do it, it should be literally called the LeBron James rules. The Jordan rules were for the court. With the pistons, the LeBron James rules should be off the court by how to carry yourself as a young person. I mean, think about it. When you look at John, Miranda, when you look at Zion, look at Anthony, well, you got, like, baby mommas. He's paying them the fuck in, never seeing them again. Like, it's not a S. No, I'm going to-- Jason, you just said-- If Brown had one other, if Brown had one other baby mama, one other baby mama, people would make the biggest deal this every single day. Skip Baylor's will be talking about it nonstop. All of them. Yeah, bro, bro, bro, bro. I was thinking-- This is what we got to go off of. This is what we got to go off. They try to stir up any different-- Well, I will say, if he got-- if he had another baby mama now, you know what I'm saying? But if he was coming out of Akron with a couple of baby mommas, I don't think people would-- They would use it against him, bro. But it looked same thing as like that. It's a perfect example. Like, aunt, you should give the league to because of how he is on the court. And his personality off the court, he's just so engaging, so charismatic. But like, there is probably concern because he's got some fuck shit to go along with it. And the league is like, the league could put its entirety in LeBron's hands for two decades without a fucking care in the world. They knew everything would be OK, no controversy, nothing for two decades. But it's the fact that he started so young. Because you can put the step carries in that mix too. Step has definitely done it right. But step didn't come out of high school. Step wasn't on sports illustrated in high school. Step wasn't-- The Jailies won by a single parent-- I get what you say. The circumstances that he came from. Based off the circumstances that he came from, you would expect LeBron James to do something. He has obviously amazing God-given talent. Clearly, he's a brilliant fucking guy. He's got a mind for the game that's incomparable to high emotional IQ. And maybe that's it as well. But like-- Easily. Like, the craziest story we have against LeBron is like, is he really reading the books that he pretends to read before he gets interviewed in the locker room? That's the craziest controversy. In the decision. It was the Hummer in high school. He had a Hummer in high school. That was a huge deal at the time. OK. So it's like, OK, he got a car in high school, and maybe he shouldn't have had a book. Like, dude, come on, give us a fuck. Like, this man has been stellar, bro. You think Wembee Amma has it? I feel like he's got a little bit of that. I could see him having a 25-year run maybe. I mean, he's so big that you wonder if his body will be able to do it, but-- He's a foreigner, though, man. Not the same way. They'll never give the league to a foreigner. And the last few years have proven that. OK. Well, if Joe Gitch was from Kansas-- Joe Gitch was from Kansas. Oh, my God. They'd be saying, by the way, he is one of the greatest wrathful players in the best team. But if he was from Kansas, come on. They'd be saying he's the greatest NBA player of all-- Oh, big white boy from Kansas. Are you kidding me? Playin' like him? 100%. So who's next then? Who's the face of the league going forward? I think they want it to be in. I don't know if it quite can. It's never going to be a foreigner, because all the best players in the league right now are foreigners. If Shy was from Newark, imagine if Shy was-- he's cool as shit, he can dress as I have soft. He's ballin', he's been an MVP, got a championship. If he was from Newark, the league would be eating out his hands. He'd be the man right now. No controversies, no trouble. I'd keep you the man. Brand safe, every brand wants to be. Oh, come on, man. Get in me. Come on, girl, you got the championship. already the fashion world loves them can it be a guard because their guards who fit the criteria. Who? They're not American. Uh, Brunson, Max, you know, like he needs a championship though. They need a championship. I think Brunson is a championship. I think uh, it Brunson had a championship. He could. Brunson is market specific, but he's market. He's very safe. Yeah, but he's market specific. He's going to be a god biggest market. The biggest market. He is a god New York. Yeah, he's a guy. If he wins a championship in New York, he's a, I mean, he'll be a god in the city for ever. Like he'll never have to pay for a slice of pizza. What about Kate Cunningham? Kate Cunningham. Exactly. It's like, it's like, yeah, it's like he's not even the most famous Cunningham in sports. You know, I mean, it's not to say he's not great, but you also need to have that appeal. People need to want to play like you and that's what Ant has. That's what Steph has. That's what Shy has. Jokey's you can't play like him, but he's numbers are so video gameish. Yeah, it's also hard to be a big man and like the league is yours, right? But he again, there is that component where if he was from Indiana, what it would be, it would be a wrap. Jokey's that if he was from Kansas, his nickname would be wicked as some shit like, you know what I'm saying? Like, like, like, seriously, like he would be the man. They would, they're not giving foreigners. Imagine if Janus was from LA. You know, like these guys would be all world, yo. Yeah. And it's not just us. Like if some American kid was amazing at soccer, you know, Real Madrid is not going to give him the team. No. Paris ain't going to give him the team. It's just you can't do it. You just can't do it now. I mean, I'm looking at the last all league teams. It's really Tatum and he just doesn't seem to have. You know, he, you know, got it. He's got the championships and everything. He's incredible. Right. But you don't want to play like him. It's a different thing. It's like, he's incredible. But Alan Iverson, you wanted to play like him. You, you wanted to play the game of basketball just like AI played it. Steph, you wanted to play the game of basketball just like Steph. Ten year olds come down and pull from half-court now. That's what he said. Steph changed the whole league of everybody. I mean, Tim Duncan, everybody's going exactly across over. You're going at the cup. You're going at someone's chest. But the, uh, but with, with like Tim Duncan, for example, nobody wanted to play like him. We recognize his greatness. But no one was like, man, I'm working on my fucking fund and fundamentals and my rock. Is it? Is it? He's close. You know, it's interesting. Isn't he like BBI? Ron has had it for the past 20 years, but no one really wants to play like Ron. Because you can't. You have to have the physical gifts to do that. And no one wants to do that. LeBron James is Magic Johnson with muscles. He's like, he's like Magic Johnson, Karl Malone. Like that's the, that's actually the hybrid LeBron James is. You got to be a certain physical statue to even do what LeBron does. But you, you don't, you don't want to not play like him. Like his game isn't like Tim Duncan's game where it was boring. Like LeBron is still exciting. You know, he's still athletic. His bag isn't crazy. You want Kyrie's bag. Like obviously Kyrie, and like, you know, Kyrie's got his issues. But like Kyrie's bag is crazy. Everybody would love to hoop like Kyrie. He's the one who had a moment. Who? Harden had it for a moment. Harden did. For a moment. Harden did when he was just dropping. And also, you know who had it for a quick moment? Paul George. I would, I was going to say Russell Westbrook there when he was dropping a triple double of fucking game. And he was just all heart tenacity. Like that intensity. There was a version where I don't know if you're handing him the whole league, but he's one of those guys where you're like, man, I love watching that guy play. But to get handed the whole league, you have to have a level of consistency over a certain amount of time. And you really have to be the undisputed bar. Like, you know, LeBron and Steph have been the undisputed bar. By the way, can I talk about something really? I see a lot of you sports guys taking takes for me that y'all told me. I was crazy for saying three years ago. I've been had Steph over LeBron in the goat conversation because of what Chris just said. He revolutionized the game of basketball period, male and female. And when you talk about head-to-head matchups in the championship, Steph Curry is three to one against LeBron. Team sports. That's all I'm saying. I don't care. Team sports. Okay. It's just saying three to one against LeBron. Three to one. Team sports. I heard Steven A. Smith say one time he can't put Will Chamberlain over Bill Russell because Bill Russell beat him more times in the championship. I got all these opinions on Bill Russell based on never watching him play. Right. Like I need to stuff all my Bill Russell opinions into the fucking trash somewhere. Like I just go off of what my dad says and my dad said that he was the most dominant person he'd ever seen on a basketball court, both defensively and offensively. It wasn't like him scoring but like what he would do and how he could control a game. Siltator. It was amazing. He just said he'd never seen anybody that was that transformative at the time. Now there was eight teams in the league at the time. It was a very different game. But I literally just regurged to stay in my dad's talking points. And it seems like Will had a little brawn in him in that he was the most physically dominant player by far. But Bill was as much as they let Bill coach the Boston Celtics during racism. Yeah. Right. Like this is Boston we're talking about. And he was sold to the city. If they were like you know do whatever you want. This is like that's how incredible he was. So I think that part of like Bill's greatness is wrapped up in that and it's still a law of the 11 championships. I mean it's you know saying you win 11 championships but to your point. You have something if a tree. I'm telling you. When it's all said and done it stuff is going to be the one that we're to win one more. That would seal it. I don't think he will. Here's a question. Yeah. Does transforming the game make you the best? I personally don't think it does. Because obviously wasn't the best. Exactly. But I was but in win the championships. That's that day. No, you're 100% right. Well, I have stuff over obviously. My good job. Yes, obviously. Yeah. Michael Jordan changed the league. Well, he's another one that revolutionized the game but we won the championship. He didn't revolutionize it the way that it's stuff. I disagree on that. Oh, Michael. I think Michael definitely. I think Michael Trump. Michael Ferrer. Kobe. If you cold memory in the days before the internet you had to come fly with me tape. And you could see a whole generation of players who just studied my friends and told you Jerry's back out. You're right. It's a car. I want a baby Jordan. J.R. R. R. like every tour. Jordan transformed the game. I think the tricky thing is that not maybe you a little bit. How old you Chris? 55. Okay. So you actually had time early Jordan years. Yeah. We only knew Jordan. I knew struggle Jordan. Exactly. But Sean and I only knew Jordan. So I we couldn't tell you in the magic bird. But we couldn't tell you how the league was transformed because we weren't watching enough hoops at the time to be like oh they everybody played this way and then Jordan entered and now everybody played this way. I saw it. I saw really absolutely because I wasn't old enough to see that because the first championship and this why this why this why sports this why it's hard for us watching sports now because of the storylines when Jordan won his first championship he beat magic Johnson. So I remember watching basketball with my dad I remember Larry birds last game I remember the changing of the guard right not just watching it but hearing my pops and uncles and everybody saying so when Michael beat the lake when the bulls beat the lake for his first championship it was kind of like a changing of the guard. Oh big time and plus he went to the pistons. Was it a pistons? Yeah the beat the pistons. Which was a huge chance of time. But I remember it turns out of a signature skill that changed the game he was so well-rounded. I mean the dunk yes I think and other people dunk but it was the leap the vertical leap with the skills we saw guys like Dominique Wilkins have the verticality but I don't think we saw Dominique Dominique score with ease and dominate the game offensively in the same way that Jordan. I mean Jordan's signature skill in a way was his competitiveness and that's what it's hard to like put a pin on. Yeah I hear what you're saying. Just went harder than everybody else and every game. All the time. He could go 100% all 82. I would join had people getting ball heads you know what I'm saying I'm putting these tongues out like how they used to literally call how I'd mind our baby Jordan. All of them are baby Jordan. He didn't live up to it when he got to the league but literally like they called him that in college like Michael Chan he changed everything. 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So he was talking about an interview he did with Kendrick Lamar during Super Bowl weekend. Let's hear it. Let's hear it Taylor. - To interview Kendrick, I had it a Super Bowl. What stuck with you with that conversation? - My big takeaway from Kendrick, it was during all the huge beef last year. I was so impressed that this man was so calm, sitting next to me, and I was like, wow, he's engaged in a gladiator sport right now. As much as I love hip hop, and I was sitting next, I was like, wow, I could not do that. I couldn't believe you could be that big at war with somebody that big and go about your life. I don't know. I'm just be chilling. I did the interview with Kendrick in the studio for a day we did 30 minutes and it was very, there was no time really to do it. And it was very stiff and I went home a little sad 'cause I was like, man, I feel like we really could have got a good rhythm. And maybe he's just in Super Bowl mode. And then he called and he was like, all right, let's just meet you in a car and let's just roll. All right, let's do it. And the G and X, you know, and then my wife, I was like, wow, he's in the middle of this beef. I was like, you imagine if this is how I go out with Kendrick riding the car actor to the show. I mean, murder her. God, that'd be crazy. End of the Wikipedia. Yeah, he was taking out his ass. And we be on the show. And we'll be like, take a murder, listen to G neck. That is crazy. I like know that that shit, okay? Well, why? I hated the untolds of that. Just 'cause you and a rapper and a rap beef, you thought you was going to get shot at, bro. Yeah, that's never happened. Don't do that. That's never happened. No. Like, wait a minute, hold on, let's be realist. They were shooting a Super Bowl commercial. I'm sure it was security everywhere, cameras everywhere. It's not like you was just hanging out. Sure, but it's not a ridiculous assumption. That's ridiculous. It is. You're comparing. And it's Drake. Drake, exactly. You're comparing Drake and Kendrick. To two-packing biggie beef is crazy. Yeah, but Drake, that's this generation's rapper. Like Drake. But Drake's not like that, though. Yes, he talks stuff. Help. No, he's real, he really doesn't mean. That's what you, I don't think the concern is ever the main guy. The concern is the crazy fans that are trying to curry favor with the main guy. Yes. And your Timothy Chalamet shooting a Super Bowl commercial, riding around with Kendrick Lamar. But they don't know as Timothy Chalamet. It's going everywhere. They think it's Kendrick with his lawyer or something. But there's, like he just said, there's going to be security. It's sure that you can with every way, Timothy. Like you, like you just pulled up to the block and was kicking it in Compton atop's toy drive. And he's nothing would happen there either. But I'm just saying, you act like you was out in the streets. Yeah, but all right, all right. I'm sorry, my bad, my bad. Hold on, my bad, my bad. My bad, my bad. There's cameras in everything and shot at us out. But that's nice. When you're talking about when the hell out you messin' us, we're hating, we're hating. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, we're hating. Okay, go, go, go. No, you're in a full blown production. You're in a production. Hey, what are we talking about here? Come on, bro, like come on. No one's ever been fucking killed. I wonder like a huge fight weekend in Vegas or anything like that. Yeah, not shooting a Super Bowl commercial. Right, Sid. What are you talking about? I don't think there's more security in Vegas. This is the commercial. No, Vegas. The soup is a, by the way, this is a production. Yeah, they're gonna come to the production table. Do you think it hit his weight like, oh, let me make sure their schedule is free. Yes, they do. Yeah, that's what they do. And I'm gonna have a full flat Super Bowl production and shootin' that up. By the way, we don't even know what they're at. We don't even know where they shot it. I can, like, we don't even know where they shot that at. I think, I, we're hating, we're hating. Oh, I can't, we're hating, we're hating, we're hating. But Drake's house got shot up. The bodyguard got shot during this time of the beat. That's great when you're doing a Super Bowl commercial. No, but I'm just sayin'. No, you're not just sayin'. We're not shooting a Super Bowl commercial. That's a good point. The house has securities. You're allowed to have a rational fear. If you, of all people, you're hugging a tree in the backyard. No, but I brought things in context. You can't be a rational. No, I'm putting, like, this is, we can't be a rational. Listen, nothing was gonna happen to him. Nothing, like, at all. Like, that's, and also, by the way, that's the whitest thing you could say, Timothy. He's white. He's white. God, damn him. I wanna Ava Rickshaw. - Mind you dude, this? - No, I wanna Ava Rickshaw. - No, no. - I was in court side at Nick's game. - That's the thing. I don't like his stylist. They dress him to New York and he's not, he's not that. He's not that. - You got Ava Rickshaw. - I thought he grew up in New York. - That's why I didn't recognize him. - He was not like. - Look at the commercial. - By the way, that's why I didn't recognize him. 'Cause I looked at him. - Timmy, Timmy. Let me tell you something. - He's a fool guy, but he's not that. - Timmy, Timmy. - You're just, you're doing a lot of pods and you're doing a lot of things, there's a lot of exposure out right now and people are just starting to hate a little bit. That's what this is. Listen, I don't know. And we all go through it when there's a lot of exposure, people start to go, eh, you're doing great, kiddo. You're doing great. It's okay to be scared. - Is he from New York? - Yeah. - He's from fucking New York and he's scared about riding around in a car with Kendrick Lamar. - We don't ride in cars, bro. He's not scared being on the subway, he's shooting a Super Bowl somewhere. - He should be. - We should be scared. - If you were in New York, you shouldn't have no fear. - I'm sorry, we're hating, we're hating. Yo, Timmy, yo bro, don't be scared, bro. - He's from New York and he's from. - He's from Harlem, bro. - No, he's hit the fuck out. - No, Timmy, Timmy, Timmy, Timmy, Timmy, Timmy. - Yo, by the way, I didn't even recognize him. - What do you mean? - Because I was looking at that thing, I was like, yo, I must not know what Timmy, Timmy, it looks like, but I'm seeing now. - That's because in this he had hair and a mustache. - That's not Timmy's challenge, that's Timmy Turner. - Shut up. - Timmy, Timmy, Timmy, Timmy, Timmy, Timmy, Timmy, Timmy, Timmy. - He also dates Kylie Jenning Tim. - He does? - Wow. - Born and raised a man, hadn't. - Yeah, he's from a city. - That's what city boys we are. - I've never seen my life. - And listen, seeing you at pussy. - Who me? - You remember that time we went down, there's such and such, and you was with a hall of goons. Now, once the Andrews say, oh God, I think they're going to shoot this car up. And you was with some (beep) that day. - You just bleep that by the way. - Listen, I'll just say, okay, bleep that by the way. - I might be more used to certain environments. - The Timothy Salamy? - That's if there's a possibility. - There's a possibility, that's, that's, that's, you know, let's do some asking to do this, mate. - Yo, Timmy, it's all good, man. - I mean, we like Timmy over there. - Yeah, I don't have nothing against him, I'm just saying that sound is silly, bro. - I think this is what happens when people do a lot of interviews, and they're exposed a lot, and the mystery of them kind of goes away a little bit. It's easy for people to start going. - You know what it was? - It's just, it's sound is silly, but then it also sounded very stereotypical, bro. - Which is what? - Like, don't be the white guy who's riding around with a rapper who says you're going to get shot. - People would drink. - I hear what you're saying. - I don't, I come on, Tim, if you got, he seems like a cool dude, he seems like culturally aware, but that was a very culturally clueless moment. Like, come on. - Yeah, I also think he's not from the hood. I think he's probably a kid who kind of observed it, and he believed the lore. And I think that when you believe the lore, it's probably a little bit concerning to be involved in something when you hear that Drake's security guard got shot. - I was happy. - I agree. And I would have, I would have no problem with his statement if he wasn't shooting a Super Bowl commercial, if he said he was this outward Kendrick yell man, I ain't go front I was out with Kendrick. And you know, we was kicking it, we was just at the studio, and then all of a sudden I started thinking to myself, holy shit, he's in a beef with Drake. What if they just come and shoot this shit up right now? You were shooting a Super Bowl commercial, Timothy. - And the car was still, wasn't like there was movement, or something like that. - Oh, the car wasn't, it wasn't. - It's a fool, but they know they do this shit on the fucking, they put it on the, I don't wanna say gurney, is it like a gurney? You know what I'm talking about? - Yeah, yeah. - You wanna leave it there? Come on, security everywhere. Timothy, who's shouting me, Kendrick Lamar, shooting a Super Bowl commercial, I think. - So what? - What should he have said? What should he have said? - Nothing. - This is it. - By the way, you say what you feel. And that was a true story. It is what it is. - Look at me. - I'm just saying it sounded silly. - You do look nervous though. And you can tell the moment when it kicked in, like, oh shit, what are people in owls surrounding this right now? People in owl jackets, you know what I mean? - Well that's when you could get out of the car as a white dude and be like, "Guys, I'm not involved." Guys, this is nothing to do with me. I have to shoot Dune 3. - Is he Jewish? - Timothy Schalemann? - Yeah. - I don't think so. - No. - Why are you asking? - 'Cause that's all the more reason not to be afraid of Drake. brother, brother and with me, Shalom. Shalom. Shalom. Shalom. Shalom. That's who's a mask in the heat. Before that, shout out to Taylor Swift. I definitely respect her. That's me. Tell me. That's big. I mean, she gave out over, we're not over, 190, 190, that's big. That's big. That's big. Click on the story. That's big. Let's play that. So this is not talking about it. Did y'all what did you watch the duck? Why would I ever watch a Taylor Swift duck? I'm watching it now, what do you mean? I want to see more. Yeah, she didn't good at the diddy duck. Hey, hey, hey, employee. I'll give you a prop. I'm saying her performance is better than Beyonce. First of all. I'm just saying. Well, don't know y'all should be getting no ideas. Yeah, I'm just saying Taylor Swift. Should you tell us whiff is acting her wage? She I'm just saying Taylor Swift is acting her way. I should look at what I give you bonuses. Taylor But you know what I said I guess They see Taylor They see Taylor giving out a hundred and ninety seven million bonuses, and they like yo Yeah, how much did our tour make soon as soon as one of this shit? We don't make a few billion then you're gonna get to a little Great we go do a little secret. Come on man. I just need people to subscribe to my YouTube right now. Yeah, y'all please say please subscribe to all the maids you please subscribe to my All hard and they are the best at what they do so every single person on the crew. I've handwritten them a note It took me a couple weeks, but it's fun to write the notes It's like fun to think about everybody's lives that they're gonna go back to when they're time off They're gonna have and they you know the kids they haven't seen because they've been away from months and making that worth while for them It feels like Christmas morning when you finally get to say thank you. Everybody has the same message on their card So I was hoping you could open it my full gratitude doesn't come from a bank, but here is All these just some all bleed bro Out One dude had a long ass bleep the other dude was like I'm gonna pass out Hey, shout out to tell you that's the most g-shit. I like shit like that I really like when I see people treating me people in that way, you know, cuz the easiest thing to do is make money The hardest thing to do is for some people for some reason is make sure that they people are getting taken care of I don't know why like if I got it you got it. That's that is fire dude. That is fire. Yeah, bro 197 I don't know how big the staff is and that's what I'm saying, too. How big is that? That motherfucker said I'm about to pass out You know, I mean that's a man salute the tale of y'all. Let's do some asking it each main. I need a lot of money That was I need to go to I need to know the number Cuz what Oh, wait My brain can we talk about this nastiness of your president? That wasn't asked to rest in peace to rob What is it? Rainer? Rainer rob Rainer. I don't understand. That shit was nasty. I don't understand the point of what Donald Trump said So rob Rainer died. Well, he got killed by his son Let him and his wife him in his wife. Well, that was that is the mom. Oh, is that it was that it was it was his son's mom, too Oh, that's crazy Donald Trump tweets a very sad thing happened last night in Hollywood rob Rainer a tortured and Scruggling but once very talented movie director and comedy star has passed away together with his wife Michelle Reportedly due to the anger he caused others through his massive unyielding and incurable affliction with a mind crippling disease known as Trump derangement syndrome Sometimes referred to as TDS he was known to have driven people crazy by his raging obsession of president Donald day Trump With his obvious paranoia reaching new heights is the Trump administration surpassed all goals and expectations of greatness and with the golden age of America Point us perhaps like never before may rob and Michelle rest in peace A number of Republicans have denounced your statement on true social after the murder of rob Rainer. Do you stand by that post? Well, I was in a fan of his at all. He was a deranged person as far as Trump is concerned. He said He liked a newest false fact to see exact opposite that I was a Friend of Russia controlled by Russia. He knows the Russia hook. He was one of the people behind it I think he heard himself in career wise he became like a deranged person Trump derangement syndrome So I was not a fan of rob Rainer at all in any way shape or form I thought he was very bad for our country. This is corny man. It's it's disgusting This is because it's disgusting and a lot of way you know in a way you're admitting that You caused political violence Oh, yeah, how because saying that He drove people crazy due to his Trump derangement syndrome So because rob Rainer didn't agree with Donald Trump's politics Somebody was driven crazy enough kill his kid Oh, that's the other thing. That's the other thing. It's like we don't even know the circumstances We don't know if his kid had mental health issues or drug issues like we don't really know what was going on Also, his kid was his kid way before you were president like this guy nothing to do it Just this is just why are you even a certain yourself shit is gross, bro And it's not even like says gross like as a president if you just can't stay rest in peace All condoms to go to his family by the way This is actually something you don't have to comment on at all Oh, the president of the United States He's not like rob Rainer was an elected official or anything like that. You don't even have to comment on it You're just mad that this man has criticized you in the past. Yeah, so you decided to take a I don't even know Just not even a cheap and I think people even know what rob Rainer you probably said about Trump too No, he was very else. He was oh, I didn't I never heard anything, but we never heard it. That's the thing It's like this is more today. This is the first time where even hearing that they have beef it be like if when Rosie O'Donnell goes man his Twitter He's if this is what he's doing a rob Rainer Because he hates Rosie O'Donnell here's the thing brah when Donald Trump goes and Everybody's celebrating you inviting energy. Yes, it's inviting. I don't want to see nobody if you're not denouncing this I don't want to see nobody in mega upset When the world is literally celebrating well, I don't think can I can I actually respond to that like I don't think that's Like that is the human reaction to things We would hope that he doesn't do this and we would hope that other people don't behave like this Oh, but they were they went out they will that is the human right where emotional beings and we're gonna let that get the best of us I'm guilty of it. You're good. We're all guilty of it, but like We would hope you know again It's not the thing where you got to be like sad like Dick Cheney dies We don't have to sit here and have fucking tears about it, right? But at the same time like stomping on someone's grave Just feels ugly. It does but they're going to do it and You and then nobody's gonna be mad when they do it You know what I'm saying? Yeah because this Is some energy that you just simply don't put out into the atmosphere. Yeah, this isn't This is I don't know what this one this is more than he gave the dude to try to kill him. Yeah That's a great mother fucking like there's a dude to try to there's multiple dudes to try to kill him And they didn't even get a whole page tweet. That's a great mother fucking point and Right like and what they're multiple assassination attempts on truck It was the one dude who got the ear and then there was another one they got at and when Charlie Kirk got killed god bless the dead didn't they call up people raging left lunatic. Yeah, they were Lunatic was saying shit just like this, but that's why we got to keep that same energy It's like if you're gonna call that lunacy, you got to call this lunacy This is where this is I mean, I know everyone thinks I got TDS and whatever but like this feels very uninteresting me like Yeah, the United States to give this response. It's well. We got to stop saying well, listen. Yes Yeah, no, I'm with you Chris. He is the president of the United States. Well, let's just remember. That's just the position. Yeah, I get it You know what I'm saying like he what he wasn't a personality time. I mean, we we did we spoke about did he last episode, right? Yeah, how you see a slightly psychopathic bent. Yeah, I'm a lack of empathy Look, we we we were all together when Charlie Kirk has got killed. I you know, I didn't have any Love for that guy at all. I didn't say a word because You wouldn't wish that on your other. He is word up word up. You don't word up. You don't work that word up He didn't do anything to deserve that even if I don't agree with his ideology Rob Reiner didn't do anything to deserve this your son cutting your throat You also don't know what the fucking circumstances were it could have nothing to do with his He's also zero circumstance where a child kills the parents where It's because they don't like a president. It's just like you know what that is and if they yeah I mean if they do do it for that reason the child is dealing with some real mental health. Yeah, we all have unfortunately Some version of this in our family. Yes, family. You know, you don't touch that shit So the fact that he's a dad and so it's it's really and the fact he's taking it's like he's taking credit He literally says it's reportedly Reportedly due to the anger he caused others through his massive yielding an incurable affliction with a mind-trippling disease known as Trump derangement syndrome I just don't know who this is for like I don't even see his base like If they're a listen his base is obviously there's a bunch of different people but like What about the religious folks like the God-fearing people that understand that we're all sinners and like Like do you think that they're looking at this and they're happy and they're they're proud of you like I can't imagine like a God-fearing Christian looking at this and and being proud of it Like I feel like His circle around them like doesn't check him at all anymore I feel like he used to get checked a little bit now it's getting to the point where he's not getting checked at all because you know He doesn't write his tweets. He's dictates them and there's a lady right there writing the tweets Yes, somebody should be like don't so like somebody tweeted that and said okay, we're present somebody to say why why why? No, he doesn't write. He just dictates and then I thought it was that real I saw that video where he was in like the room and he was saying telling her yeah, I saw that she's that's crazy I mean, shit, until you see our salary in the bonus, you tell it and you'll be like, hey. Yeah, but it's like, where's Tom? No. I can't hear you. Where's Tom's selfishness. I'll see, but you're like, damn. Some substance is night. I want it when it's night. I'm with you. Let's say it goes back to what I say. Don't compromise yourself for a position. Yeah. Like, being Trump's tweeter, ain't worth this, bro. If you're not going to be like, nah, we're not posting that. Because when I see stories like the Rob Reiner's story, the first thing I think to myself is if something like that can happen, anything can happen. Meaning like, if your son can decide he wants to slice your throat one day, your son, you watch this person come into the world and this person kills. Imagine, you know what I'm saying? Exactly, but that's what I'm saying. He's a sad, like this person that you love and you're raising. How do you not think about that? Come on, man, like, ah, I don't, yeah, I don't. Does I turn them on any movie? I see that has to do a family, like, literally, I put myself. This is your family. And he also knows that this is probably a mental health issue because he capitalized crazy. He was known to have driven people crazy by his raising obsession of President Donald J. Trump. So you're saying that that's not what people don't get driven crazy. People have mental health issues that are unearthed obviously by drugs or circumstances, etc. But these things exist and they're unfortunately, in a lot of cases, things we're either born with or horrendous traumatic experiences that we endure, uh, unearthed them. And it can happen to anyone. And we all in this room know better probably than, than a lot of people about how real that is. Right. It can happen to you, bro. Like, you don't know. And it's every parent tries to fix it. There's no parent who's like, yeah, whatever. It's, yeah, you know, like, come on. Yeah, it's not. It's wild. It's actually wild, man. It's wild. Let's do some asking Niddy. It's my asking Niddy. It's with 2025 wrapping up what cultural changes do you see coming in 2026? People believing actual trusted media sources and a lot of you people are going to get exposed for your lives. I wanted to do, and I'm still thinking about doing it, but I don't even know. I'm just giving somebody the idea. Y'all should do. Y'all should do the top five bullshit stories. Y'all heard this year because you know what happens a lot? These podcasters, these YouTubers, I'm a part, you know, I'm aware all of these things myself. But I'm saying these people in these spaces, the podcasters, the YouTubers, you know, they get on their platforms and say things that are not true. Yeah. Get proven not to be true. And then everybody just moves on. No, we need to right, we need to do the top five or top 10 bullshit is of 2025. I'm like, yeah, number one and two. What we did, what we put out, you'll tell people right beforehand. This is a lie. And then you'll say it and they're still running. I'm not talking about those. I'm talking about the people that say things like Charlemagne is getting paid by record labels or, you know, like that type of shit, like, I want that type of shit exposed. And it's not only just, it's not only just shit about us, right? It's just shit about all our shit. Should I vote for it yesterday with the Australia shooting? So was it real? No, it was real, but there was a post going around that the sun, I'm talking about the shooting and Sydney, was a IDF X IDF soldier. And it got a lot of traction. And I was like, yeah, like I was IDF and he served in Gaza. Who started it though? I forget the account, but it was an account with a lot. And I was, I actually, no, I googled it. Didn't find any cross reference that I actually found an article in, I think it was the Jerusalem post saying that these articles are getting planted by various sources, trying to drive it back in the false flag Israeli event. But I spent 20 minutes kind of having to do that research. People aren't going to do that. This is what I was saying on the New York Times shit, where it's just like. That discussion is great. Oh, thank you. I appreciate you. The, which is like the news will correct facts, but they don't correct narrative. Right. And the YouTube reaction channels and the YouTubers, like they don't even correct facts. So like facts and narrative are completely bullshit. They put it out there. They let it simmer in the ether. And who knows how that starts to negatively impact culture? Who knows how that starts to negatively impact sentiment? And I think we're seeing a lot of it. And it's kind of dangerous because people are radicalized without thinking they're radical. And that's the work. Like back in the day, when you had radical opinions, you had to go to like a basement somewhere and meet up with eight people. And then you all kind of sat in your account for an hour. Now your feed just sends you 10 clips with the same point of view. And you start to think, Oh, this is what everybody believes. So you feel normal in your radical beliefs. And that's a dangerous environment to live in. Did you guys see the press conference, the new head of M1 in the UK? No, well, they're highest by. And they have a new woman who's in charge of it. And she has a technology background. And she said, by far, in a way, the biggest threat to the West is Russian disinformation. You think it's just Russian? It's not just Russian, by the way. I can't just Russian, but it's not just Russian. And you wouldn't bring up China, obviously, but you're a fucking spy. It might be, but well, probably not. But anyway, his glasses are recording right now. But no, I mean, she said that's that's our job moving forward. She said, every eight, you know, that in the past, the, the skill of a great agent was to be able to cultivate human assets and to kind of. She's like, you can, you can radicalize 100,000 people, right? You don't have to cozy up to a mother fucker out of cafe. She's like, if you can't understand tech, if you can't understand social media, you can't be an agent. And there's this thing. And I think it is true, which is like the rich people or the government wants us fighting with each other so they could take all our money. And I'm not saying that there isn't truth to that. But you know who wants us fighting with each other more than them? Our opposition. Yeah. Because if we can't unite about like what America is, what our identity is, what we want to do in the world, then it's very easy. You don't even have to go to war with us. We'll go to war with ourselves. That's perfect. And that shit is happening right now. And who's, who gets the advantage in that situation? That's a fact. These united countries that are unfortunately united under totalitarian regimes and they push whatever propaganda they want to the people and their people are too afraid to fight back. But like they have a massive advantage over us. If we have to go to war, we can't even decide what's right or wrong. We can't even decide what's true or false. And it's so funny. What did they say about World War Three kids? They say, uh, what did they say? What did they say? World War Three? It's going it's not, it's going to be nuclear, but what was it? You know what it's called? It's like, you know, World War Two has followed over five years. World War Three is going to be fought in 15 minutes or something like that. But it was something like nuclear weapons. I can't remember the exact vote. World War Three will be, uh, fought with nuclear weapons. World War Four before, for the sticks and stones. Yes. It's not going to be no nukes. Nukes are so primitive. Nobody's going to ever let off a new. You don't need to. You don't need to when you can just go cyber and fucking duty psychological operations against people like you don't ever have to, nah, Chris, I don't see. There was a article this weekend in, I think it was the late 60s. We sent an expedition high into the Himalayas, one of the highest peaks in the Himalayas. We wanted to spy on China. And we needed a way to keep the recording equipment going once we was planted on top of this mountain. So the idea they came up with was a nuclear power generator. The size of like, you know, a bowling ball or a little bigger beach ball, let's say they got it up to the top of the mountain. It's about a third of the size of a conventional nuclear weapon, but still a major nuclear weapon. There was a storm. They left it there. They went back down the mountain. They went back up the next month or whatever to retrieve it because it was generating so much heat. The ice ridge that it was on melted, it actually embedded itself into the mountain. They have no fucking idea where this thing is still. There's just a fucking nuclear bomb sitting on top of a mountain. Somewhere in the Himalayas that nobody knows where hopefully it just kept melting, melting, melting, melting, melting, maybe a lot of the earth, but you know, maybe it's in hell. The the gang is river, which, you know, probably provides water for like a quarter of the world. That's a relation gets its water from the Himalayas. Well, Chris, you just did some media shit. Now, and I'm going to take it right. I said that nobody will ever drop a bomb. He tells us about a bomb that's gone missing that could probably detonate on its own. No, it could contaminate the water supply. It leaks. But still, my point is that's not somebody doing it. Yeah, but that's why they're just sloppy people have been with you. But I'm saying that nobody, I'm saying nobody's going ever to push the button and say boom, boom, boom, boom. I don't know about nobody, but I hear what you're saying. It's like the collateral damage of that is game over for everybody. But that means if the bomb's in the hand of a responsible government, the point is Chris, the bomb is in your lap right now. The bomb is in your lap right now. Yes. I got it. That laptop is the bomb like that. This is the bomb like this shit got us in a chokehold. Yep. This shit is feeding us so much shit all day every day. That's what I see the biggest change being in 2026. It's going to come back to people just actually trusting certain sources because all they're going to want is the truth. I don't know about y'all. I can't go to rest of my life asking is this real? Every single picture, every single. It seems like it's been an amazing uptick in that even over the last two months in terms of the images. Yes. I'm like, I don't fucking know what's I don't know what's real or not. No more. You know, that video at TI with the bar spot. That's fake. A fucking eye. Are you serious? Yes. when they feel hated. - I didn't see it. - Yes, I don't know what's real and what's not real, no more, man, but I do know, I'm gonna do my part in just exposing a lot of people who just be straight up lying. 'Cause these people are making a lot, I don't know a lot of money, but they're doing pretty well monetizing. - No, they're making money. - Just lying. - They're making money. And it be lied about stuff that you could actually look up. Like, people will lie about ratings or numbers or numbers, and it is like, they, and I can only speak about us because I know what we're doing, so I can know in somebody's lying. One of the biggest lies was the mother fucking, when there was a guy who said, I didn't want the Drake lawsuit to go through, because there would be a line item in it that says, "Charlamagne the God gets paid by Atlantic records "and I've been getting paid for the last 15 years." I'm like, what the fuck? How do you just get on your platform, say some shit like that, and you know, I don't be forgetting nothing. I'm aware of everything and acknowledge nothing, but that's the type of shit I mean when I say people should be doing year in wrap-ups exposing the biggest caps of shit that people just got on their platforms and said for engagement and views that just was not real. - Yeah. - That's it. What else we got to tell again? I'm not talking about this. You know, I'm not talking about that. Scroll up. Who's that? Who's this from? Chocolat, Chocolat Rain once said, if you could go back and relive a moment-- - Chocolat. - Yeah. - Chocolat. - Like Chocolat. - Chocolat. - Oh, Chocolat Rain once said, if you could go back and relive a moment our event for the first time again, what would it be? And it has to be the exact same way that you did it. Like you couldn't change anything about it. You just got to experience it again. - Oh no. - My wedding day was fucking awesome. - They was fighting. - Yeah. - Wedding day. - Wedding day was fire, bro. - So how do I want you to pursue it? I think about that all the time. I had a better suit. - No, you just got to live the whole day again. You get to experience the whole day. - I know, I do. That's why I want to wear a better suit, though. - But you don't like to change that. - Yeah, that's why. - I can wear a better suit. - Nope. - Nope. - The way the guys all sit. - Yep. - My suit. - You know what? - I love her event. I'm gonna tell you one of my favorite moments of that day. It was a very unappreciated moment because I'm the only person that I think noticed it. Like, hi, it's shit. - No, yeah. - We could have Alex. - But not because of me. - He gave me shoes. - But she's not in this face anymore. So it's easy to laugh at. She was high out of her mind looking around and all I kept thinking to myself was, this would never be you. - Jesus Christ. - Now look, now look at me. But in that moment, look at God. And I think I might even extend that to her. - Yeah, you did. - You do say that to me? - That's crazy. - I don't know if I did or not, but I really thought it 'cause the way she was looking, she was in the dance arena. - I was, you know, you and your wife dancing, me and my wife dancing, everybody was, I'm looking at her like, - It's gonna never be you. - And now look at you, Taylor. - Mama Taylor. - But in that moment was that the day. - But you know what's so, I got to, I'm, you were thinking that wasn't you? - No, it was nothing about that. - I was like, wow, this is beautiful. Like, for real. - That's, well, I'm very sure, that's her version. I saw deeper than you were beautiful. - No, I was recording it. Like, I have still recording it. Like, what you said to her and what she said to you. Like, I thought that was real, real beautiful. - Even if I, y'all. - Your eyes were watery in the middle of the dance floor. - It was easy. (laughing) - Your eyes were watery in the middle of the dance floor. And I'm just like, Taylor, this will never be you. - Now look at you. God is good, man. - You're evil. - The fact that you said you're, it never be me. It's crazy. - No, it wasn't that I was fine. - Yeah, it wasn't that I, no, let me take that back. It wasn't that I didn't think that it couldn't happen to you. Just in that moment, it was such a great thing to say 'cause you were so in your feelings about how beautiful the wedding was. - Evil. - Evil. - It's bad, God. - It's God. - It's bad, God. - You're bad, God. - I can't wait for my wedding day. I wanna say a specific thing just for you, Sean. - Oh, don't you dare, don't you dare make it about him. Don't you dare give him, don't you dare give him any shot on your day. - You make it about you, listen. Just let me speak at the wedding. - No. - I can tell the story. - He's gonna make up so much stuff. He's already saying that he's gonna introduce me to my partner and all that, like. - Yeah, man. - He's wanting you to do that, huh? - He just started saying that now. (laughing) - It's so random. - No, he did not. - No, he did not. - I think he did, I think he did. - He did, he did. - I don't remember. - He did. - How do you remember? - Roger, when you were away with the range rover. - That's right. - That's right, I introduced you. That's why I used to call him. I introduced him. I introduced him. - We were protecting his identity. - Listen, I'm glad though. How high were you at Andrew's wedding? - I was. - How'd I hurt my mom? - I ate two, so this is a problem though. I had an edible thing. You gave me these chocolate shrooms. - And you were. - I didn't. - That's right. - Did you see that one? And I'm the first. - You missed it. - Yo, I remember just sitting there like, yo. It was so much like going around. - Now, I'm gonna be honest with you though. I, first of all, my mom and I wasn't last, but I love a wedding, bro. - Yeah. - And there's certain weddings I remember, man. When Andrew was sitting up at that goddamn altar and you took that deep breath and you (exhaling) when you wiped that goddamn Denzel Washington tear that one tear. Now Denzel had that one little tear from glory. When you wiped that shit away, man. I was like, God, damn, love is beautiful, man. - I like how it looks in your traditional, either though. - Yeah. And I loved the speech you gave before we ate dinner. And you were just talking about, you know, your diverse friend group and how you love just seeing all of these people together and you was, I can't remember the exact words, but you was just like, and you know, just take the time. If you can make, if you really wanna make me happy, take the time to talk to the person that you didn't come with or something like that. Like get the beat people and know people here. I just, I don't know, man, this was dope 'cause you know, that's like, that's a different level of love 'cause you and your wife came together and holy matroid bringing y'all love together because you bought this room of people together that you wanted to. - These are all the people that I love. - Yes. - I wanted you all to connect. And I think I've been really fortunate in it. Like, almost all of my friends kind of know each other. And some of them become incredibly close, but I don't have really that many separate groups. So it was cool to have all of you guys in one place and everybody kicking and hanging out and like, oh, I was just great. - I love it, man. - I love where, yeah, the wedding's a great. I love where, man, I love where you, invite me to the wedding and I'm pulling up 'cause I just love wedding, man. - Yeah, I think it's our fan fucking test. - Oh, what about you? You wanna see your favorite moment? - Yeah. I don't know, man. - Oh, you said wedding, but he would wanna change his suit. For that would definitely, I don't know, I really don't know, I don't, I really don't know, yo. 'Cause I'd be, I'd be afraid to go back. I don't wanna go back. 'Cause if I go back, I might not come back. - No, but you don't know. You only get to live that day exactly what it was. You can say, we don't know nothing, we don't know nothing. - No. - I know, I would do. - What would you do? - Well, no one to do this, he can do more in L.A. Over the, - Why you made. - Over the birth of your child? - Yeah. - Wow. - Because, well, first of all, time out, because, listen, listen, listen, listen. - Hey, Timmy Shalene got every right to be scared, bro. - No, no, no, no. - That's how, no. - No, you got every right, you got every right to be scared. - Listen, listen. - That way you name your baby, George Nicholas, name me. - I did nothing to that stop. - George Nicholas, name your haze, they call it G and I. - That's not, that's not true. - That's not, that's what you do. - You're talking about, and yet that was a happy moment, but it hurt, though. You're talking about just, I'm talking about without the pain. Yeah, I'm gonna go see Kendrick again, in L.A., that was fun. - That's crazy. - Why is that crazy? - No, no, I don't think it's crazy, I'm a beyond, I'm sitting there thinking to myself, it's, you would have had to ask. - I was saying I regret the birth of my son, that's not what I'm saying. - You know why it's hard, remembering where a moment I would want to relive, because I don't be your girlfriend. - What are you laughing at? - Listen, George Nicholas Xavier Hayes. - Well, wait, next for sure. - Come on, come on. - Why is it weird for me, but he didn't say his daughter? - Yeah, that's good, I mean, I'm just saying though, the wedding starts with the daughter, the wedding is the genesis. - The wedding is different, also my daughter's birth was very traumatic for all of us, like, you know, it was just, - So why can I say the same thing? I'm not saying like, I was just like, I'm traumatic, but I didn't say the Taylor Swift concert. (laughing) Like if I said that, you were fucking crazy, I'm gonna show you it, that's the one day you're like, you were fucking crazy. - Okay, her back story, Taylor Swift. - Back story was how I even got to the concert in the first place. So, yes. - All right, let's do a couple more asking, let's do one more, man, what else we got there, yeah? - I'm not going to listen. - I ain't mad at you, I mean, you got to listen, George Nicholas Xavier. - 'Cause that's not his name, man. - All right, one more. - G and X. Ooh, this is a good one, Shultz. Somebody said, unhinged the show says that Shultz deal with imposter syndrome as a new comic, if so, how did you overcome it? No. No, not as a new comic. No, because like, yeah, I think the imposter syndrome comes in when you're sick. successful, right? So it's like where you feel like maybe your talent doesn't match the success you have. But I think in the beginning, you don't feel like an apostor 'cause you're like, "I'm just starting this and I'm nowhere." So like those things are kind of aligned. I guess you could say a little bit like, I don't know if this is an apostor, but I didn't want my friends or family to come see me in the beginning because I was like, all right, I fucking suck and let me try to get good at this before I invite them out. So maybe there's that kind of a success started. Do you feel it was warranted? - Yeah, that's interesting. It's something about you're not afraid to be naked in front of a stranger. But you're afraid to be naked in front of people that you actually know more. Yeah, because they have an idea of you and then you're like, "Oh fuck, see me bomb on stage? "Is that gonna shatter their idea of me off stage?" Which is like silly, but like those are things that go through your head. But in terms of like career in those things, like I think probably more imposter syndrome during like the MTV and guide code days. - Really? - Yeah, less with stand-up because it's like, I'm putting it out and the people are there laughing and the people are coming. Like it was so transactional with the crowd, meaning like they saw the stand-up they wanted to come see me. So it felt justified. I can understand like, you're in a popular TV show and then people are coming to watch your stand-up or something and you're like, do they even like me? Or do they like this character from the TV show? You know, like if you're Ross from Friends, like I wonder if you're thinking, do they like me that the person or do they just like Ross from Friends? And you're not Ross from Friends. Maybe it's a version of you. But like, then I think there might be some imposter syndrome on that. - Even with TV show though, because on the TV show, we're being honest, we're being funny all the things that you need to be on stage and you're still Andrew Shote. So, no, what do you mean, what do you mean, what do you mean? So, even if they're watching Guy Code and they like you from Guy Code, that makes them want to say, oh, he does stand up too. I think he's funny, I think he's smart. Let me go watch. - It was definitely being myself. I think being myself and people appreciating that or not appreciating that, like that felt justified to me. You know, so it's like, if you didn't like me, it's like, yeah, you don't like me for me. If you do like me, it's like, yeah, you like me for me. I think if I made it in a different way where I was like pretending to be someone I'm not and then I was getting all this love, I think there might be a version where it's like, do they even like me? And I wonder if actors go through that. - Surely, what about you? Was there ever a time you feel? - Hell yeah, I just got over it by the syndrome. I remember the day, December 2019. - Really? - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you know, I think that it's the success that comes with what it is that we do. And you always wonder if you're a worthy of the success. 'Cause I mean, what the fuck do you really do, bro? - But where'd you feel it and what? - Like seriously, like what realm did you feel it? For like radio or like other things? - All of it, or everything. - Yeah, 'cause it's like, I guess the Andrew's point, when I get on the radio, I just, I enjoy doing radio. Like I know I'm good at that, you know what I mean? But then when you start factoring in everything that comes with that, like all in the other opportunities that you're able to create because of that. Yeah, it's just a part of you that's just like, am I really, am I really worthy of this? Like, am I really who I think? I like, I literally remember, and I remember sitting down when I did the homecoming speech, I mean, not the homecoming, the commencement speech for stocking on the state university. I wanna answer that question to ask me the last one you're in and going. And when they started, when they were just rattling off your all the accomplishments, right? This shit was long, bro. I'm talking about like 15 minutes long. There was a period, I'm not even joking. There was a part where I'm just like, who the fuck are they talking about this moment? Like I had to snap back in reality, like, oh shit. Well, wouldn't that reset? Like wouldn't hearing all those things about you make you go, oh wow, I have done all these things and I am accomplished and I deserve my success. I'm just, I'm really just starting to get to that, yeah. Interesting. Like really, like, I think 2019 was the first of my embraced it and said I was worthy, but I'm really just getting to the point now where I'm like, okay, but I also think you have to have a bigger intention to whatever it is that you're doing. I think intention helps to negate imposter syndrome because it's not about what you're doing it's what you're doing it for. And if what you're doing it for is valid righteous reasons and what you're doing doesn't just benefit you. It benefits other people. I think that helps to negate the imposter syndrome. Like I been told, if what you build only benefits you, it's not big enough. So. - Hey man. - Let's end on this one, man. It's Britt Brett says, that's not my cousin Britt Brett with Britt Brett, Gala Krabs. What became more important to you this year and what became less important? Oh, easy one for me, yeah. What became more important to me this year? People and what became less important to me this year? People. You're the same thing. Straight up. Because it's not about how many people are with you, the quality of the people that's with you. And people don't realize 2025 was the year to snake. And the year to snake is all about shedding. You shed people, you shed relationships, you shed negative energy, you shed everything. You don't wanna carry what you into 2026, which is the year at a horse. Also, 2025 was a nine year, nine is the highest level of change. So everybody out there, if you feel like things are coming to an end, and we've seen a lot of things come to an end this year, but you've also seen a lot of people have new beginnings as well. It's all comic, bro. It's supposed to happen. If you feel like something is changing in you, if you feel a shift, if you feel like it's things that you wanna let go of, 'cause you wanna step into new things, do it. This is the year to do it. This is the nine year, the highest level of change. So, only thing I can tell y'all going into 2026 that I can show you better than I can mother fucking tell you, bro. - I love that. - That's it? I love that. Yeah, I think family. I mean, yeah, family, it's good time. - You always felt it, but once you have like a wife and you have a kid, and you really, that's important to me. As long as that is good, everything's good. - Everything's good, bro. - I went through a lot of crazy shit over the last year, but as long as my kid loves me, my wife loves me, it's amazing how none of that other stuff really matters to me. - At all, you know? And I don't know, it's one of those things where I just feel so lucky. I was talking about my wife this the other day. I was just like, I feel super lucky that this is the most important thing to me. If the most important thing to me is whether the internet loves you or something, that it's like, you're set up for misery. And there are people, I'm sure that that like, really is the only thing that drives them. And don't get me wrong. It's like, that is also nice. That's amazing when that happens. But you can't control that. Nope. And if you're gonna cheers, you die by the moves. - A hundred percent. - I've also noticed you've been more intentional seeing your folks. - Yeah. - You've always been like a super war cross, a worker who are working. - This year, you made an intention to see your folks move. - Man, that's a blessing, bro. Have your family in New York City is a blessing. Have your parents in New York City to be able to pull up on your parents because that is the one thing that I know for a fact. I'm gonna regret over the last 15 years. 'Cause I've been up here doing what I'm supposed to be doing. And you know, I got my whole existence not just professionally, personally is here. Like my kids weren't born. It's like a lot of my kids were born in New York and New Jersey. And so my life is here. So we get home and we can, but man, bro, we are not young. So if we're not young, what are our parents, you know what I'm saying? It's just like every time I go home, I see my parents and it's just like, yo, they're getting older, you know? And it's just like, you're not going, you cannot get that time back. So anybody that lives close to their parents, yo, take advantage of that shit, right? And get to see them as much as you possibly can. Even if they drive you crazy, man. Even if they drive you fucking crazy. 'Cause you know the illest thing about parents? I don't think we've, I don't know how you feel. I still haven't unlocked all the secrets. There's so much I want to know about my parents. Because the more you know about them, the more you start to know about yourself. Like there's this little book and I encourage people to get this for Christmas. It's this book and it says, I don't know if they got a mom but I only saw the dad one, but the title of it is, dad, I want you to tell me your story. And so you give it to your father and he writes down his life story. That's all we're going to have when they go. I had my mom for her to do it. Would you, Chris? My father just dropped a story on me. I was like, how the hell did you sit on that for my entire life? Listen, some keep murder. He killed somebody? Great grandfather. He killed his great-grandfather? No, my great-grandfather. Oh, what? I was like, what? I was like, where you sat on that entire life? He's like, I think I told you that. Now I was like, yeah, I would have remembered that. Damn. How did he kill him? He was Irish immigrant in Massachusetts and they didn't want to let the guys leave apparently. They'd make money, but they wanted to keep the money in the camp. And he snuck out one night. He saved up all his money. He didn't drink. He didn't do what the other guys did. And he was trying to get back to Boston, go back to Ireland, and he was walking on a train track, and he realized that somebody was following him to rob him of the money. you got. a gum before he left. He shot the guy. He kept moving, went back to Ireland, and then had my grandfather in Ireland. And then my grandfather in turn came to America later. But I was like, you never told me that. He's like, Oh, I'm pretty sure I told you that. Wow. Wow. Wow. That's a, wow. That's a story. Can I add on to what you say? Sure. So God blessed them. I grabbed my past this year. I'm sorry. But thankfully, she was able to meet her great grandson. But she's the last of her generation. Every year, every Christmas, like all of our family comes together and she, that was the last. So tell him man. She got to meet the little man. Yeah. So I'm thankful for that. But yeah, family's definitely. It's been time with your folks, man. Happy holidays, y'all. We love you. We love y'all, man. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart. You think we're intelligent. You think we're brilliant. You absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast, I think we're just a couple of idiots. You don't know shit, you're right, too. It's the brilliant of this podcast. Thank you for listening. Thanks.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. A live-action Street Fighter movie was discussed, with mixed opinions on its quality and feasibility, though the trailer is seen as promising.
  2. The podcast highlights the cultural significance of nostalgic IP and emotional connections to franchises like Street Fighter.
  3. A viral moment involving Chris Monroe’s Mandarin-speaking mishap and a humorous "booty taking" joke involving Diddy and Ray J sparks debate on authenticity and power dynamics.
  4. The group praises Jake Paul’s upcoming fight against Anthony Joshua as a major draw due to hype, despite concerns about the fight’s entertainment value.
  5. A discussion on gender roles and emotional resilience emerges, with commentary on the physical and emotional toll of motherhood and the societal expectations placed on men and women.
  6. A controversial situation involving University of Michigan football coach Sharon Moore’s alleged misconduct leads to a debate on accountability, power dynamics, and workplace ethics.
  7. The conversation touches on the idea that both parties in inappropriate workplace relationships should face consequences, especially when power imbalances are involved.
  8. LeBron James is celebrated as a cultural icon and role model, with a focus on his influence off the court and the idea that he should be a benchmark for conduct in sports and beyond.

Summary:

The podcast features a dynamic mix of humor, cultural commentary, and serious discussions. It begins with a lively conversation about a potential live-action Street Fighter movie, noting its nostalgic appeal and mixed reception. A viral moment involving Chris Monroe's failed Mandarin attempt and a joke about Diddy "taking" someone's buttocks sparks debate on authenticity and machismo.

The group enthusiastically discusses Jake Paul's fight against Anthony Joshua, emphasizing the event’s massive draw due to hype and public fascination. A deeper exploration of gender roles follows, where the hosts reflect on the physical and emotional challenges of motherhood and societal expectations of men and women. The segment also delves into a real-world controversy involving Michigan football coach Sharon Moore, analyzing the power dynamics and accountability in workplace relationships.

The discussion concludes with a strong tribute to LeBron James, highlighting his influence as a cultural icon and role model in sports and society, underscoring the idea that his conduct sets a standard for young athletes and public figures. Through these varied topics, the podcast blends entertainment with meaningful social commentary.

FAQs

Yes, a live-action Street Fighter movie is in development, though opinions on its quality vary. The trailer has been well-received, and it's expected to build on the nostalgic IP that fans have strong emotional connections to.

Theaters are back open and are considered the best place to watch movies, with many fans emphasizing the immersive experience and the return to in-person cinema.

Yes, there was a humorous exchange about Ray J joking that Diddy took his ass, which sparked a discussion about the normalization of such comments in public discourse and whether it reflects real experiences or just jokes.

The discussion highlights how LeBron James, despite being a highly respected figure, sometimes receives media attention for minor off-court incidents, especially due to his influence and the scrutiny of public behavior.

The podcast creator has not confirmed a renewal yet, stating that the decision will be made by the end of the year and that they are still in the process of evaluating options outside of the current contract.

The podcast emphasizes that power imbalances in workplace relationships—especially between supervisors and subordinates—can lead to inappropriate behavior, and both parties should face accountability to maintain ethical standards.

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