DON’T GO Camping In Canada. I Have Proof They WON'T Protect You.

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I'm trying to hit 1,000 five-star reviews, and we still have a long ways to go, and so I would really appreciate you helping us out, and okay, let's get into it. On June 9th, 2013, six gunshots ripped through the Harrison Lake campground, two tight bursts of three that snapped everyone out of their summer night routine. One second, it was just campers, cars, and people hanging out by the water, and the next, it was pure panic. Calls started flooding in. A passing car's headlight had been shot out. A family's RV had been hit as well. And so now, everyone's thinking the exact same thing. There's a shooter in the woods. Police pour into the dark woods, expecting to find an armed guy mid-rampage. But when they zero in on where the shots came from, the scene doesn't match the panic whatsoever. There's just a lone truck with a camper parked off in a secluded spot, a campsite that looks like it was abandoned in the middle of the night. And then, the police hear barking from inside the lodge. Officers open it up, and two dogs rush out. Inside the camper, they find an uninflated boat, a life jacket, and personal belongings with one name on them: Ray Salmon. But they didn't find any guns. And even more disturbingly, they didn't find Ray Salmon either. Or at least that's what they claim. But long before chaos and mystery fell over Harrison Lake, a young woman named Daniela entered a bar planning to meet someone very special. It's February of 1981, and as some of you might remember, long before Tinder algorithms decided who we were supposed to date, there was this thing called a blind date. Daniela's friends knew that she wanted to be with someone who was passionate, responsible, and of course, good with his hands. And so, when Raymond, or Ray Salmon, walked through the door, Daniela knew that she had found the one for her. At the time, Ray was a young millwright working in a sugar factory, which meant that he was extremely crafty and strong, and yes, good with his hands. He grew up in the woods as sort of this camper-hunter-fisherman type. By all accounts, Ray and Daniela bonded over their shared love for dogs, for adventures, and specifically for the outdoors. By 1982, they were married, and they began to build their life together in Vancouver, British Columbia. For the next three decades, Ray and Daniela's lives were pretty normal. No one would have guessed that someday they'd be at the center of one of Canada's most disturbing outdoor mysteries. They often took time off work to go camping, and one of Ray's favorite places to visit was Harrison Lake, which is about an hour and a half drive from the city. And by the way, I say that it was Ray's favorite and not Daniela's favorite because Harrison Lake is just kind of a beast of an area. I don't know how else to put it. First of all, the lake itself is freezing cold most of the year, even in the summer. And, you know, it's technically safe to swim in during the warmer months, but danger still lurks at the bottom. And not necessarily from predators, but from giant 500-foot drops that happen out of absolutely nowhere. And as if this wasn't enough, surrounding the lake is miles and miles of rough forested terrain without any cell service whatsoever. It's about as off the grid as you can possibly get, but according to Daniela, Ray always felt more at home in the bush than anywhere else. And honestly, despite the fact that I make all these videos, that's something I can relate to myself. And it's something that Daniela wasn't offended by. You see, Ray was just, he was just an outdoorsy guy. He loved a challenge, and he obsessed over having all the right gear for any situation. In fact, he actually preferred going out there alone, which is something that I can't relate with as much, I mean, I'll do it, but it's not my favorites. And when I say alone, I guess technically he's not completely alone because he always brought his dogs along with him. Their names were Elmer and Bandit. And so while going alone in the wilderness isn't really my favorite way of doing it, I also do understand why people do it. It can be very freeing, assuming nothing goes wrong. But one thing that I don't really understand is why Ray kept going back to Harrison Lake over and over, despite the fact that he had apparently run into a number of sketchy characters there over the years. Now, these stories are largely anecdotal, but apparently in the 1990s and early 2000s, Ray saw multiple drug deals go down in these woods, and he knew to never get involved or break them up. But it was clear to him very early on that Harrison Lake was a place that some people went to when they didn't really want to be watched. And again, allegedly, as the years passed, these sketchy campers would get more and more brazen, and this made it more difficult for Ray to just kind of ignore them, right? In one instance, and again, this is just secondhand information, there was apparently a group of gang members who were shooting semi-automatic rifles late into the night right next to Ray's campsite. And Ray, who was just out there trying to get some sleep, finally hit his breaking point and went over to ask them to, you know, maybe stop shooting their guns. But instead of putting their firearms down, they apparently pointed them at Ray and threatened to rob his campsite if he didn't leave immediately. Which is illegal, obviously, and crazy. Like, if it were me, I would not go back to Harrison Lake ever again after something like that. But Ray would tell these stories to his friends and family almost like they were jokes. And again, he probably was exaggerating a little bit, but clearly at least some sketchy stuff went down. And also, clearly, Ray was not easily scared. He never even reported these things to the police. And I think that speaks to his confidence in his abilities and also his intuition. It really does seem to me that Ray felt like nothing ever truly bad would happen to him in the woods, and that he could always kind of maneuver out of a sketchy situation and ultimately turn it into a future campfire story. But what happened to Ray in June of 2013 wasn't a story that Ray would ever tell. It wasn't a story that Ray ever got to tell. Instead, it would be the police telling it. And, to a lot of people, including some that were very close to Ray, the police's version didn't really make sense. In May of 2013, Ray told Daniela that he would be taking their two dogs, Elmer and Bandit, on a week or so trip to Harrison Lake. He was planning on going just, you know, a few days later, in the early morning, and Daniela was welcome to come, like she always was. But lately, she was kind of excusing herself from most camping trips. She told Ray that she had kind of just outgrown Harrison Lake, and honestly, I don't really blame her. Daniela was at retirement age, and while part of her hesitation was surely because she just wasn't up for these rugged nature trips anymore, I suspect that under the surface, maybe even subconsciously, she almost knew that these trips were because they were becoming less and less safe. I mean, how could you not feel that way after some of the stories that Ray had told her? Before Ray left, Daniela made her husband check that he had all the right gear with him, and at 65 years old, Ray was still able to put together quite the equipment list. Beyond the usual camping stuff, some of the other key things that Ray brought out to Harrison Lake were a life jacket, a first aid kit, a motorized inflatable raft, and several firearms. These are very important things to remember. They're going to come up very soon. Oh, and if you think that bringing more than one gun feels a little extra to you, well, it probably is for most people, but for Ray, this was just business as usual. He was an expert in the wilderness, after all, and he just liked the feeling of knowing that he had all the protection he could possibly need against any possible thing that could go wrong. On May 28, 2013, Ray kissed Daniela goodbye, believing that he would only be gone for about a week, He never gave Daniela an exact return date, but again, after 30 years of marriage, Ray was always home well before the time that Daniela got to worrying. But for the first time in three decades, that was about to change. Over the next week or so, Ray would spend the majority of his time alone, enjoying nature and, of course, enjoying the company of his two dogs. Every time that he left his main campsite, he would take the dogs with him. Despite being in his home, Ray would always be with him. In the 60s, was a super active guy. He was taking long hikes, searching for old gold mines, and fishing pretty much every single day. A couple times during this trip, Ray would even invite his friend, John Miles, to join him out there on an adventure into the woods. And on the last day of this trip, Ray was actually planning to meet John at the shore of Harrison Lake. From there, they would take the inflatable raft out onto the water together. That plan was all set up to happen on the morning of June 10th, 2013. But before we get into the events of that morning, we actually have to zoom in on the night prior, June 9th. Star Wars The Mandalorian and Grogu is now streaming on Disney+. What are you waiting for? Hop on. The must-see galactic adventure comes home on Disney+. This is the way. I like this kid. Always wear your seatbelt. Star Wars The Mandalorian and Grogu. Now streaming on Disney+. Rated PG-13. At first, it was pretty much like any other night on Harrison Lake. It was summertime, and so it was relatively warm out. There was a graduation party with a bunch of college kids hanging out drinking beers along the shore of the lake. There was families camping in RVs and plenty of cars driving in and out of the designated camping area. Again, this is a really remote spot, but on this particular weekend, there was a decent amount of people, at least for Harrison Lake standards. But all the noise of the people and the parties was quickly silenced by six terrifying, unmistakable sounds. And you know what I'm talking about. Gunshots. They rang out in two rounds of three, and they could be heard all throughout the dark woods of Harrison Lake, even across the water. And like I mentioned earlier, people started panicking. A call came in to the local police station that a passing car's headlight had been shot out by one of these bullets. And then another call came in that two bullets struck the side of a family's RV. And so the police swarmed the area, they moved out into the woods, and they thought that they were going to come across someone who was like armed and dangerous. They even closed in on the area that they thought the gunshots were coming from. And this was a secluded part of the forest with what looked like, a truck parked in the middle of it. In their minds, it could have been something truly horrible that they were walking into that night. But as you know, when they arrived at the scene, it wasn't nearly as dramatic as what they imagined, at least not on the surface. It was just this picture. A truck with a camper attached to its back, parked next to a campsite with one chair left out by the unlit fire pit. As the police closed in on the camper, guns drawn, one of them rustled a leaf. They made a little bit too much noise. And that's when they were startled by a brand new sound. Not gunshots, but barking, which came from inside the locked camper connected to the truck. When police opened up the truck, two dogs came out. And it didn't appear that they had been locked in there for all that long. The police then started to look through what else had been left behind in the camper, and they found a life jacket, the uninflated raft slash boat, and several possessions belonging to Ray Salmon. But again, they didn't find any firearms, and Ray was known to have a couple of them with him. And of course, they didn't find Ray himself. So what's going on there? At around 5am the following morning, John Miles, who had heard the report of gunshots at Harrison Lake, tried calling the local police. He was worried about his friend, Ray Salmon, of course. I mean, John knew that Ray was out there camping because they had made plans to raft for that day, and he wanted to make sure that the area was still safe for them to meet up. But when John finally got a hold of the police station, all he got from them was a blunt and shocking piece of information. And that was that Ray Salmon was a missing person. When this news reached Ray's wife, Daniela, later that morning, she actually wasn't that worried about her husband. Which, you know, it sounds kind of crazy, but I guess when you've been married to someone for decades, someone who's an expert in the wilderness, maybe it just takes more than going missing for a couple hours to freak out. Or maybe she was in denial. I don't know. And either way, the search party that was organized clearly was not in denial that something serious was wrong and that Ray was somehow involved, right? From minute one of this investigation, the crew was very heavy duty by any definition. It included members from the police force, as well as members from a highly tactical emergency response team and a full canine unit as well. Some people on this crew were even carrying fully automatic rifles, which feels like a lot for just one single missing person. I told you at the beginning of the video, I've covered a lot of wilderness searches on this channel. And pretty much from the first minute of this search, something was just different. Now, you have to remember that Ray had never proven to be a danger to anyone. And while I'm sure that having a fully armed search team was just done out of an abundance of caution, I don't know. It definitely felt like overkill, no pun intended, because for the first 24 hours, they did not find anything relating to Ray's disappearance. After a full day of searching for Ray, one of the heads of this search crew, Corporal Lee Van Nieuwenhuizen, said that they had zero leads. And separately, he also noted that they could not confirm that the report of gunfire in the area was even linked to Ray's disappearance at all. And there were some other odd details that the initial investigators were picking up as well. Things that stuck out as just not right. You know, for instance, when police told Daniela that Elmer and Bandit, the two dogs, had been found locked in the camper, she was stunned because Ray had never done that ever before. Ray never left camp without the dogs and he would never lock them in there and then wander off somewhere else. The only time he would do something even resembling that would be if there was a bear around. And even then, he wouldn't leave the campsite. He wouldn't abandon the dogs. He would remain at the campsite on lookout. To Daniela, someone else was responsible for locking Elmer and Bandit in the camper. For his part, Corporal Van Nieuwenhuizen suggested two theories as to what could have happened. First, that Ray had been hiking somewhere dangerous and had fallen or been attacked or something. Second, that he had been doing some target practice before accidentally injuring himself. But still, these theories fail to explain why the dogs weren't with him. And as you're going to see, that is a big problem. Oh, and speaking of dogs, remember that elite canine unit I mentioned a minute ago, the one they brought in to help the search? Well, something strange happened with them as well. The canines couldn't pick up a single scent of Ray's despite having plenty of Ray's equipment lying around the camp. And that is very surprising. I mean, these units are trained to pick up scents that are like miles away. And so, what the hell is going on here? It just became increasingly clear that this was going to be a way more complicated search and rescue than anyone had anticipated. And that meant the authorities needed even more support than they already brought. And so now, in addition to the on-foot search team, there was a helicopter scanning the terrain from above, there were ATVs rumbling through the woods, and there were police boats zooming around on the lake. And yet, despite all of this support, they were not finding anything having to do with Ray. No footprints, no blood, no gear, nothing. Well, that is until finally, after three long and disappointing days of extensive searching, they discovered something that was maybe a clue to finding Ray. And I say maybe, but it's not. Maybe because it's just not at all what you'd expect to find. On June 13th, which was the fourth full day of scouring Harrison Lake for any sign of Ray, the helicopter team saw something that looked out of place. They were searching the shoreline of the lake when someone spotted a secluded beach and something shiny sticking out from the surface. As they flew down to try and get a better look, they realized that it was a bunch of balloons tangled up in a tree about a fourth of Ray's campsite. Now, through all my research, I couldn't find out what type of balloons these were. And so they could have been emergency survival balloons used to send out SOS signals, but it's also not likely that Ray would have had these in his kit. I mean, they're just not a popular thing to carry. I've never heard of anyone carrying these. And so more likely, these were probably just some party balloons, perhaps left over from those kids who were hanging out in the woods. But just a coincidental find by the helicopter crew, they got extremely lucky because right below the balloons was the first real clue to solving this mystery. When the ground team reached the secluded beach near Ray's campsite, they were stunned by what they found. Literally right under where those balloons were positioned, they found Ray's backpack. It was just sitting there on the beach with almost like the balloons were marking its location. And this was the first real breakthrough that they had made in almost four days of searching. And it also wasn't the only one. Sitting there on the shore, they also found Ray's shoes, his socks, and his pants. And most shockingly, just a few feet down the shore, they found the piece of evidence that everyone had been wondering about. They found Ray's rifle, as well as several shell casings. This is where the case breaks wide open, because the streak of luck actually continued on for the search crew. Later that very same day, yet another discovery was made. They found Ray's pistol, which was lying in a meadow in a completely different area. Almost as if he had left it there in a hurry, or maybe it was taken from him by someone else. This was a huge dump of evidence, all happening in just the course of a few hours. They basically went from zero to a hundred in terms of what they had on this case. And if you're like me, or you're invested in finding Ray Salmon, you're probably thinking like, okay, keep going. Keep searching for clues. I mean, we finally have some momentum here. Maybe the dogs could have finally gotten a scent from Ray's newly found backpack or his clothing, and taken searchers deeper into the woods. The trail felt like it was hotter than ever. Well, folks, this is exactly when things started to get messy. Hi there, I am fully charged and here to tell you, Toy Story 5 is now on Disney+. It's been too long, cowboy. Woody, Buzz, and Jesse are back for a brand new adventure with some seriously cool new tech. What? Holy butterscotch! You said it, Jesse. So, save your batteries and watch the global phenomenon at home. And the best part? It's perfect for the whole family. Power up your movie night and watch Disney and Pixar's Toy Story 5, now streaming on Disney+, rated PG. Years after all of this went down, a search and rescue team member named, Adam Palmer, went on record to say that just after they had made these first huge discoveries, one corporal on the police's search team, who Adam didn't identify by name, instructed them not to search further in the woods. He had been told by his superior officer that the area was now unsearchable, and that the police were already putting together an official statement as to what they believed happened to Ray Salmon. And this is just. weird. Like, I just gotta say, I mean, it's kind of fishy to call off the search right after you made your biggest discoveries, but still haven't actually found the missing person. They didn't even give the dogs a chance to build a new scent trail. I don't know. It just feels like they were rushing to try to close this investigation before they had even completed the search. And look, I'm not going to pretend that I know why this happened. All I'm saying is that the police's decisions didn't really match the moment. And so, the story that the police had now crafted was that Ray injured himself or experienced some medical emergency while at that secluded beach. And it's important to know that this beach was kind of surrounded by tall rocks that would have been very difficult to scale. And so, terrified that he couldn't get himself back to camp on his own, he tried everything he could think of to get the attention of someone else nearby. And so, Ray fired six gunshots at light sources he saw off in the distance, three of them at a car driving by, and three of them at some RVs near a neighboring campsite. But no help ever came to Ray. And so, eventually, he took off his socks, his shoes, and his pants, and he attempted to swim back to his campsite. And I guess he must have decided to keep his shirt on while swimming. Like, he took everything else off but left the shirt. And I say that because they never found the shirt at the beach. And anyways, if you remember what I told you about Harrison Lake, it's quite large and it's freezing cold, even in the summertime. And also, the water levels can go from being ankle high to hundreds of feet deep very quickly. And so, the police concluded their story that while swimming back to his campsite, Ray drowned. And thus, from that point on, all efforts would be focused on a search for Ray's body in the water. They would end the search in the woods completely. When the police called Daniela to tell her about the items they had found, and then to tell her the drowning story, she was, at first, devastated, obviously. But, before she could recognize what the police said happened to Ray, she was starting to get all these questions. While the story that the police landed on explains the beach discoveries, kind of, it doesn't explain why the dogs were left behind, or why they found Ray's pistol in a completely different area. Daniela, obviously, knew her husband better than anyone else, certainly better than the police did. And she knew that Ray would never leave his pistol, sitting out in the wilderness unattended. She also knew that Ray would have never gone down to that beach without the dogs, or without his life jacket, for that matter. Remember, they found that in Ray's camper as well. And most importantly, she knew that Ray most definitely would not have tried to swim in a freezing cold lake at night. I mean, if he was really trapped on that beach, he would have known to wait until daylight, where he could then flag down a passing boat. You know, someone would have found him. So she's wrestling with all these strange questions, but there was also only so much that she could do at this point. I mean, she kind of had to just take the police's word for what they were doing with the investigation. This was right in the middle of it, after all. And so Daniela was just trying to juggle all of this weird information with all of the emotions that her husband may not be coming home, ever. After a few more days of searching on Harrison Lake, the weather flipped a switch, bringing in heavy rains. And when this happened, Daniela knew that it was only a matter of time until the police's search would be called off for good. And so Daniela now faced this new reality that Ray would not be coming home. And my goodness, I can't imagine how hard that would be. I mean, in her eyes, this could have never happened to someone like Ray. I mean, Ray had been doing this for years and years. He knew Harrison Lake like the back of his hand. I mean, what are the chances that he would die out there without her? Daniela had to break the news to Ray's brother, who was named Robert, and then to all of Ray's friends, which included John Miles, which is another thing that I can't even imagine having to do. But she's calling all these people, and they're talking about what happened. And as she started telling the story to them, or at least telling them, or at least the police's version of the story, she quickly realized that the people who knew Ray the best were grasping onto some of the same exact questions and doubts that she had. They were also confused. And frankly, they weren't convinced. For example, about those gunshots. Ray's brother, and also some of Ray's hunting friends, told Daniela that anyone who spends enough time hunting in the wilderness knows that three gunshots in secession is a classic distress signal. These SOS gunshots are always aimed in a safe direction. And it's just weird because everyone knew Ray was this expert outdoorsman. I just don't think that he would have intentionally shot towards anyone, right? I mean, if he knew this distress signal, he would have known to shoot in a safe direction. He would never have shot towards a moving car or an occupied campsite. Like, that doesn't make sense. The story that the police had offered Daniela, just had a lot of holes in it. Not only in the logic, but also in knowing who Ray was and what he would and would not have done. And so now, the question wasn't just, "What the hell happened to Ray?" But it was, "What the hell was happening during that crazy search effort?" And Daniela was on a mission to find out. Flash forward to July 17th, about a month after her first search concluded. A new boat was in the water at Harrison Lake. This one belonging to Jean and Sandy Ralston. Now, the Ralstons are sort of like celebrities in the search and rescue community. They're a retired couple from Idaho who specialize in searching for underwater victims. They had a combination of the best sonar equipment at the time, as well as a natural knack for the work itself. Desperate people like Daniela Salmon turned to the Ralstons when their search efforts failed. And this is because the Ralstons have a shocking success rate in finding missing bodies. Just three weeks earlier, in fact, they had recovered the body of a man named Sid Neville, who was located almost 600 feet underwater. But now, it was Ray's brother Robert and, of course, Daniela, who stood on the shoreline waiting for the Ralstons to unearth a miracle. And by the way, when they were waiting, they were accompanied, of course, by his beloved dogs, Elmer and Bandit. Ray's loved ones would pace back and forth, emotionally draining themselves every time that the Ralstons boat raced towards another potential find in the water. But, day after day, they would come back with the same report. A lot of boulders and logs that look like bodies, but zero trace of Ray Salmon. But picture this: every day that the Ralstons went out for another search, summer activities around Harrison Lake kind of went on as normal. normal. No heightened police activity. I mean, you literally had kids swimming in the lake right near where they were looking for Ray's body and college kids throwing huge parties right near the beach where they had found Ray's backpack, which kind of just strikes me as strange. Like if the police had taken this investigation so seriously at the start with, you know, armed SWAT teams and helicopters and a canine unit, it just is weird that everyone in charge of Harrison Lake suddenly decided to just pretend like it didn't happen. I'm probably reading too much into this. I don't know. Daniela and Robert tried to quiet the noise as best they could, and they prayed for the Ralstons to find something, anything to keep their hopes up. But after weeks of searching, the Ralstons drove their boat back to the shore one final time and officially told Daniela and Robert that they were dumbfounded. With all the resources they had thrown at this case, the Ralstons expected to at least find something, you know, maybe a piece of equipment, Ray's shirt, I don't know, anything, right? But they had found nothing. And so now everyone's mind began to turn to more far-fetched, even darker theories. They searched this lake so heavily, but they didn't find anything at all. And so what if the police's story was wrong and Ray's body wasn't even in the lake? Everyone who was wondering this now looks to Daniela for her next move. And by all accounts, Daniela. Daniela was kind of paralyzed with grief. I mean, she didn't know what to do next. And this just breaks my heart, man. Daniela had no relief of finding her husband's body, no relief of a plausible or believable story, and certainly no relief of closure in this tragedy. Remember, nothing bad, like truly bad, had ever happened to Ray in the hundreds of times he went out into the wilderness. And now Daniela had to get comfortable, or as comfortable as you possibly can, with the idea that she would never see her husband again, dead or alive. But still, a lot of people felt like something was still off here. Like either the police were flat out wrong in their theory, or even that they were lying. I don't know. People that were close to Ray just couldn't accept the idea that he had locked the dogs in the camper, left them there, and then never came back. And so, for a third time, despite having police forces, canine units, government-trained search teams, and private underwater specialists, the question remained, what the hell happened to Ray? And for years, this case went cold. But this just didn't sit right with Daniela. She asked the local police for any more information that they could possibly share, but they told her that it was basically a dead end. And so she then filed a request to the Canadian government to get the official report from the search effort for Ray. But when she did this, maybe one of the stranger updates in this entire story came back. The report that she received had many blacked out redacted paragraphs. Which, you know, it's not unheard of when the government releases reports like this to, you know, redact a bunch of stuff. But my question is, what about this case specifically needed to be redacted? I mean, according to the police themselves, this was just the case of a man who drowned in a lake. Like they didn't do anything wrong. They didn't do anything wrong. And it makes me wonder, is it possible that there actually was some foul play here? Now, a couple small details have stood out to me more than others. And I think they're important to highlight here. And so earlier in the video, you might've missed it. I told you that Ray wasn't just spending the week at Harrison Lake hiking and fishing, but he was also looking for a way to get to the lake. And so I'm going to abandon gold mines. Now the area around Harrison Lake has a lot of precious minerals like quartz and of course gold. In the 1800s, there were active mines full of treasures. And there's even one legend of slumax gold, which many Canadians believe is hidden away somewhere in the region. Ray was most definitely not alone in his interest with these, these mines and legends. And so is it possible that he found something that he shouldn't have, whether an abandoned mine or an old prospector stash of gold, and he had to be, you know, taken care of because of this. And look, that would have to be an insane coverup. And it's probably not even worth speculating any further, but I don't know, even in 2025, some abandoned gold mines are being found, discovered still in the mountains, not that far from Harrison Lake. And the amount of wealth that one person might find in these mines or one of these hidden gold piles, well, it would be monumental. But again, that is wild speculation. It's almost certainly not true. And I'm definitely not accusing anyone of anything here. All I'm saying is that when you stack all of the anomalies in this case, the official story that the police told really starts to feel less like an explanation and more like a way to end the conversation. And when you have these kinds of details that stick out from the rest of the logic, well, they really do matter. Especially when a case is as wide open as Ray's. And another detail is, of course, those run-ins that Ray had with strange people around the lake. It's possible that something bloody went down, which could explain why those gunshots weren't aimed in a safe direction, but instead towards cars and campers. But then, I mean, you have to think that there would have been some trace of violent activity beyond just the gunshots. There wasn't even a drop of blood everywhere, at least as far as I'm aware. And according to Ray's brother, Robert, Ray was smart enough not to get involved with these sketchy people. Now, there's one more element that I want to tell you about. And this is one that I almost didn't even include because it sounded just too out there, even for this channel. But I don't know, we're already speculating. So in 2022, there was a project called Missing 411, the UFO Connection. And of course, it was by the David Politis. In this project, they covered Ray's disappearance with interviews from a lot of people we've already talked about, right? Adam Palmer from Search and Rescue, the guy raising protocol questions, John Miles, again, Ray's friend that he was supposed to meet to go rafting that morning that he disappeared, Gene Ralston, the underwater specialist, and most importantly, Ray's wife, Daniela. And according to Daniela, the documentary's version lines up with what I've included, which I haven't told you about yet. Daniela takes it all the way back to 1990 at Fire Lake in Quebec. And it's there that apparently she and Ray were camping and they saw this bright light rip across the lake. Now, Daniela thought it might be loggers, but Ray was adamant that this could not be true. There were no roads around and this light was way brighter than any vehicle's headlights. The light then starts doing some weird stuff. Twisting, turning. It's totally silent. It was almost like it was scanning the shoreline for 10 minutes straight. And look, no disrespect to any of you guys out there. I've never really talked about aliens on this channel because it's just not my thing, not my vibe. However, this story is so wide open and baffling that, I mean, I at least had to acknowledge this angle, right? Especially when you stack it with other odd details that people point to. Like an old 1960 report in the Harrison Lake region about a cylindrical UFO. Also the fact that Fire Lake was tied to a major gold operation. The fact that the dogs never got a cent off of Ray's camp. And the even bigger one, the fact that there was no blood, no struggle, no sign of a fight. Almost like Ray was just gone in an instant. I don't know. I don't know if that's the case, but I don't know if that's the case, but I don't know if that's the case, but I don't know if that's the case, but I don't know if that's the case, but I don't know if that's the case, but I don't know if that's the case, but I don't know if that's the case, but I don't know if that's the case, but I don't know if that's the case, but I don't know if that's the case. And you're welcome to watch it and make up your own mind. For me, it just seems like if the police's drowning story is so clear, then why does the paperwork of the report read like a classified state secret with a bunch of stuff redacted? And I'm asking that genuinely. I definitely might just be missing something here. I don't work in law enforcement after all. While to my knowledge, there are no official investigations planned for the future. I do hope that anyone going to Harrison Lake keeps this story in mind because it's possible that you might pick up a piece of evidence that the canines, the police, or even the Canadian government might have missed or may have ignored all those years ago. All right, so that was dark, but this next story is probably even darker somehow. So be sure to hit the follow button if you haven't done so already. I can see the data, so I know that many of you haven't yet. And okay, let's get into it. On a very normal late spring day in 2019, four thru-hikers made their way down the Appalachian Trail. Their thoughts were almost certainly filled with the typical things that long-distance hikers think about. I'm talking things like, where's the next water source? Where should we camp tonight? And perhaps most importantly, what should we eat when we reach town and have our next hot meal? Everything about this day checked out. Everything was normal until the group encountered this man right here. Now, these four hikers had walked over 500 miles up to this point, and they had most certainly encountered quite a bit of characters, if you know what I mean. However, this particular man was much different than some random, eccentric stranger that they encountered in the woods. This man was dangerous, and by this point in time, he was well-known, even infamous, among the Appalachian Trail community. While walking along the trail, this man had exhibited every red flag in the book, and by this point, pretty much every single hiker along the trail had been warned to stay far away from him. The four hikers who now stood before this man knew exactly who he was. This disturbed man was known by the trail name, Sovereign. But with that said, and unbeknownst to the four hikers who were now watching him play his guitar and ramble about, this man, was about to become known by a much more sinister name. That name would be the Appalachian Trail Killer. The group left this man behind, and they continued down the trail. But, this man would soon follow in their footsteps, and then, later that night, while the tired hikers hunkered down in their tents, this deranged man, he would strike, and he would send shockwaves that were felt throughout the Appalachian Trail from Georgia, all the way up to Maine. This is the story of James Jordan, the Appalachian Trail Killer. Star Wars: The Mandalorian and Grogu is now streaming on Disney+. "What are you waiting for? Hop on!" The must-see galactic adventure comes home on Disney+. "This is the way. Our only chance is to work together." "I like this kid!" "Man!" "Always wear your seatbelt." Star Wars: The Mandalorian and Grogu, now streaming on Disney+. Rated PG-13. So, as my regular viewers know at this point, I threw a hike to the Appalachian Trail in 2018. I talk about it all the time, I'm very proud of it. And because of this, I was in a bunch of AT-related Facebook groups that I just never left after my thru-hike, and so the following spring, when the 2019 hikers began making their way north, I vividly remember seeing discussion after discussion about this dangerous hiker who was on the trail. There were tons of reports about him threatening other hikers, I mean, so many people were talking about this, they were posting photos of him, and he was just acting very unstable and very, very sketchy. I remember following all of this stuff, I remember, kind of, hearing this, and then, hearing about the story developing in real time, and then one morning, I woke up, I opened Facebook, I'm, like, I still remember this very vividly, I opened Facebook to see tons of posts about how this dangerous man, this dangerous hiker, had finally carried out the ultimate act of violence. It had only been about seven months since I had finished my thru-hike, not even a full year, and so, when this news broke, it just, it just tore my heart apart, honestly. I mean, the Appalachian Trail is a place that had brought me so much joy, it was the inspiration for why I even started this YouTube channel in the first place, and it just, yeah, it just broke my heart that this very special place to me was also the same place where such a heinous crime was carried out. I honestly put off covering this particular story for a long time, I mean, I've gotten tons of requests about it. Even though I wasn't involved with it, obviously, just the timing and everything, you know, fresh off my thru-hike, it just, it just made me feel so terrible, and so yeah, I've put off covering it, but I have a reason for finally telling this story now, which is something I'm gonna get into at the very end of the video, so please watch until the end. With that said, let me introduce you to a man named Ronald Sanchez Jr. Ronald Sanchez Jr. was a native of Garden Grove, California, and he would go on to honorably serve the United States as an army combat agent. He served as a combat engineer during the Iraq War. Now, folks, from what I've gathered, he was in it when it comes to the war. I mean, he saw friends in his unit die, he himself suffered physical injuries, and again, from what I've gathered, those injuries paled in comparison to the mental injuries that he suffered upon his return home to the United States. What I'm talking about, of course, as you probably predicted, is PTSD. As Ronald tried to escape from the United States, as Ronald tried to escape from the United States, as Ronald tried to escape from the United States, as Ronald tried to escape from the United States, as Ronald tried to escape from the United States, as Ronald tried to escape adjust to normal life back home, he found himself unable to leave his apartment for days at a time. He would be frightened by loud noises and he would even go as far as purposely avoiding human interaction. I mean, to the point where he would only go out for food and supplies at night when there was far less people in the stores and far less people around. Eventually, however, after a lot of hard work, a lot of therapy and physical exercise, Ronald Sanchez Jr., well, he began to recover. And one activity in particular that began to bring him a lot of joy was hiking. He started out with just short day hikes, you know, meetups. It was kind of a way to make new friends, but that eventually turned into a very ambitious goal, which was to thru-hike the Appalachian Trail. Ronald saw this and he was like, as a new opportunity to heal from his PTSD. And by the early spring of 2019, he found himself standing on Springer Mountain, which is the southern terminus of the Appalachian Trail. So that's our introduction to Ronald Sanchez Jr. And so next I need to introduce another man to this story. And this is a man that would eventually cross paths with Ronald with disastrous and evil results. So let's get right into it. James Jordan's childhood was just plagued with tragedy and struggle. His father OD'ed and died when James was only six years old. And his mother reportedly struggled very hard with alcoholism. James would unfortunately follow in his parents' footsteps when it came to substance abuse. And he began drinking and smoking marijuana from a very young age, far too young to be doing any of that stuff. And he was a very young man. And these habits would result in his first brush with the law, which occurred at age 13 when he was arrested for auto burglary. Flash forward to age 16, and James's mother moved his family from their home of Cape Cod, Massachusetts, to a town that I actually know very well because it's really close to where I grew up. This town is Winooski, Vermont. After moving to Winooski, James Jordan's problems only grew worse as he was frequently heard yelling at his friends and family about his mother through the walls of their apartment. Obviously, he was extremely troubled. He would just wander around town at night. He would sell marijuana. And on at least one occasion, he did something that was just an extreme red flag. According to some research I did, James was out one night. He was with a friend. And as the pair walked by a pond, James reportedly stomped a frog to death. And then he was able to get out of the car. And he was able to get out of the car. And he like ripped it up using a knife. And I want you to remember, he was only in high school at this time. And it's been well documented that torturing and abusing animals like this is an early warning sign that an individual may someday become violent towards other humans. A little bit of a spoiler for you there. Eventually, James Jordan would end up being kicked out of his mother's apartment. He would go on to essentially just live as a vagabond, you know, selling drugs to get by. And it's also during this time that he became more and more delusional, for the lack of a better word. He was clearly suffering from some very serious mental health issues. So now we're going to flash forward to age 22. At this point, James was arrested for drug possession. And he would ultimately end up at the University of Vermont Medical Center, another place I know very well. I have a lot of friends that work there. He would end up there so that his mental fitness could be improved. And he would end up in a hospital. And he would end up in a hospital and be evaluated. But unfortunately, this wouldn't make any difference. And it didn't take long before James Jordan was back on the streets, growing ever more paranoid with each passing day. As an example of this, well, James thought that the government was like trying to get him for some reason. He refused to take medication to help his mental state. And eventually he wound up in Florida, of all places, where he would go on to get arrested numerous times for very various petty offenses. But around this same time and through his travels, James Jordan apparently found at least a little bit of joy for the first time in his life. This is going to sound really cliche, but this is the truth. James Jordan started to spend some time in nature. This certainly didn't stop his delusions, but he apparently enjoyed being in nature so much that by April of 2019, he found himself on the Appalachian Trail with a pit bull by his side. And within just a few short weeks of this, well, he would cross paths with Ronald Sanchez Jr. So back to Ronald for a moment. His Appalachian Trail through hike didn't really start out the way that he wanted to. He completed the first 100 miles of the AT, which is an accomplishment that's worth celebrating, but he soon found that his body just wasn't adjusting to the trail as easily as he would have liked. And this is something that's very, very common. I've seen a lot of people do this, but it's not something that's very, very common. And I've seen it on both of my long through hikes. So he stopped for a little bit. He rested. I think it was for a few weeks. And then he found himself back on the trail. He found himself heading north and he was now going by the trail name Stronghold. This trail name had actually been given to him by some of his fellow hikers when they learned about his time serving the US in Iraq. Pretty badass trail name, I do have to say. So Stronghold made some pretty good progress on the trail at this point. And he made it to the town of Damascus, Virginia. Damascus is just shy of the 500 mile marker on the trail, which again is a massive achievement. But despite all of the progress that he had made up to this point, he was feeling lonely. Spending hours and hours by himself day in and day out was starting to take a toll on him. And so he quit and he returned to his home in Oklahoma. When he went home, he thought that was it. He thought his Appalachian Trail dream was over. But after he had a few days to reflect, a few days in the comfort of his own house, he realized that he still had more to give. He felt as though getting off the AT was actually a mistake. And so before heading back to the trail, he spent some time with his therapist. He went on a few warmup day hikes, and then he traveled back to Damascus to continue hiking north. By the time that he got back on the trail, it was now early May of 2019. When Stronghold resumed his hike, he would have heard these warnings about a troubled hiker named Sovereign. He probably saw these warnings before he even returned back to Damascus. Now Sovereign was the trail name of James Jordan. And although James Jordan had only been on the Appalachian Trail for a few short weeks, he had caused enough trouble that just about every person on the AT knew to look out for him. Hell, like I mentioned earlier, even people like myself that weren't even on the trail had heard tons of stories about him. And so he decided to go back to Damascus. And so he went on a few warmup days, and then he traveled back to Damascus. And so he traveled back to Damascus. And so he had a lot of fun about this guy. Warnings and photos of him had been plastered all over social media. And these photos were soon rounded out by a brand new mugshot of James Jordan. James Jordan's trouble started in mid-April when he allegedly threatened multiple hikers with a shovel at a trail shelter known as Jerry's Cabin, which is right on the North Carolina-Tennessee border. These hikers had reported the incident to the police, which prompted the sheriff of Unicoi County, Tennessee, to say, quote, we knew there was trouble down here with this boy. What really got my attention was that one of the hikers said he told them, quote, it's going to be a bad day for hikers on the trail, which is obviously a huge red flag. And there were also rumors floating around that James Jordan may have been carrying a machete, which again, another huge red flag. Now, the sheriff was initially unable to locate James Jordan after these reports came in, but only a day or two later, authorities in North Carolina, because the trail actually straddles the state line through this area, authorities in North Carolina were able to make contact with him. And yet, despite his threats, despite all these red flags, the authorities let him walk free. And the reason for this is because they didn't really have any solid evidence that he had committed a crime. And he also didn't have any pending warrants for his arrest. But then on April 21st, James Jordan was spotted at a trailhead, apparently asking hikers for the password that he needed to like enter the trail. This strange and bizarre behavior was once again reported on social media. I remember following all this stuff in real time. It's so crazy to me. And then the next day, April 22nd, James Jordan was finally arrested after getting into a verbal altercation with some other hikers. When he was arrested, James Jordan was found to be in possession of a fake ID, marijuana, and probably most disturbingly, a very large hunting knife. He was finally brought into custody, but unfortunately he wouldn't remain there for very long. So I think some of you might have some things to say about this next part of the story in the comment section. And so I'm going to try to tread carefully here. But none of the hikers who had been threatened or assaulted by James Jordan were willing to go to court to testify. And I'm speculating here 100%, but I imagine that the reason for this was because they were out there to hike the trail. They didn't have cars or transportation. They were on a very strict schedule and having to remain in the area off trail in hotels would get very expensive. And it would also just be a giant logistical nightmare that would have huge impacts on their hike. Again, that's speculation. But just putting myself in their shoes, I feel like honestly, I wouldn't have wanted to remain in the area to testify. And so with that said, in hindsight, I do think it's fair to say that these hikers should have made that sacrifice in order to help put James Jordan behind bars. But again, I hope I explained that well. You can at least kind of understand why they didn't, right? And of course, hindsight is 20-20. I'm sure they would have done this if they knew what would go on to happen later. And so please just go easy on these people. Again, I probably would have done the same thing as them if I was in their shoes, and I knew what they knew at the time. Because nobody was willing to testify against him in court, James Jordan was only charged for the drugs and for the fake ID, which are two minor offenses, and he was released very quickly. He was ordered to stay away from the Appalachian Trail, but predictably, he didn't listen to that order. He pretty much immediately went back to the AT and when he did, all of the reports of his erratic and threatening behavior picked right back up where they had left off. Because of all the attention and all the chatter about him, a very well-meaning trail angel decided to step up and find a solution that would get James Jordan off the Appalachian Trail. Now, if you're not familiar with this, a trail angel is a person who supports hikers on their journey, often giving them rides into town or providing them with fresh food at road crossings. And so, on May 2nd, 2019, a trail angel named Odie encountered James Jordan at a trailhead, and of course, he instantly recognized him from all of the warnings that had been posted on social media. Odie knew that he had to do something in this moment, and so he actually invited James Jordan to dinner, and surprisingly, James accepted. So, they drive into town together, and over the course of this meal, James told Odie that he had some relatives that lived away from the Appalachian Trail in Maryland. Odie was very quick-thinking. I actually met him on my through-hike very briefly. He's a super smart, very quick-thinking guy, and so he saw this as an opportunity to get James off the trail, and Odie asked James if he would be interested in a free bus ticket to Maryland to where his relatives lived. James Jordan apparently appreciated this, and so by the next morning, the two of them traveled to Johnson City, and James boarded a bus. I think we should all appreciate Odie's efforts here. He knew that James Jordan was dangerous, but he still took him in, and he drove him and his dog, for that matter, his pit bull, nearly 100 miles off-trail to the bus station. That's quite risky and very admirable of Odie to do. I remember hearing about this at the time, and I honestly felt very relieved that this man, who had been causing so much trouble on the AT, was finally off the trail for good. I also remember many folks in the Appalachian Trail community celebrating this, but unfortunately, the threat that James Jordan posed to other hikers was not yet over. In fact, as much as it pains me to say this, it was really just beginning. Now, it's unclear to me exactly why James Jordan was so what happened here, but allegedly James Jordan only traveled one stop on the bus, and then him and his pit bull got off. He then, somehow, again, I have no idea how, made his way back to the Appalachian Trail, and predictably, the reports of him harassing hikers picked right back up. Ronald Sanchez Jr. and James Jordan would meet for the first time along the trail on May 10th while hiking through the George Washington and Jefferson National Forest in Virginia. Ronald, or Stronghold, was accompanied by three other hikers at this point, and when the group encountered James Jordan, it appeared that he was up to his usual tricks. He was reportedly singing and playing his guitar and just acting bizarre. He acted, quote, disturbed and unstable. Stronghold and his companions quickly left James Jordan behind, and they continued hiking north for a few miles until they eventually decided to stop and make camp for the evening. And then, after darkness fell, when all of the hikers were in their tents for the night trying to sleep, James Jordan appeared yet again. Except this time, he was acting even more erratic and violent than he ever had before. This is just an absolute nightmare scenario. While the hikers were trying to sleep, James Jordan threatened to, quote, And so, obviously, with this threat, the hikers were wide awake, and they made the very wise decision to pack up their gear and to hike on to a different campsite, even though it was now in the early morning hours of May 11th, like 1 or 2 a.m. However, my backpacker viewers will know this. Packing up your gear, it's not a quick process. Even the fastest people, it's going to take a few minutes at the very least. And, you know, it's not a quick process. It's not a quick while they were packing up all their gear. James Jordan came at the hikers with a knife. In reaction to this, two of the hikers ran off into the dark woods, and James Jordan chased them. However, they were thankfully able to outrun him, and they were able to hide. And so, at this point, James Jordan gave up on the chase. He turned around, and he went back to the campsite, and he zeroed in on Sanchez and a female hiker who was there with him. Sanchez, or Stronghold, he stepped up, and he did what he had been trained to do in the army, which was defend his life and defend the life of the innocent hiker that he was with. He also sent out an SOS call from his phone, alerting the authorities for the very first time that something very bad was going down along the Appalachian Trail. An altercation took place, and tragically, this altercation ended with Ronald Sanchez Jr. being stabbed to death. James Jordan's rampage didn't end here, either. After he took down Sanchez, he turned his attention to this female hiker who then took off running like the other hikers had earlier. This time, however, James Jordan wasn't outran, and he caught up to the female hiker who threw her hands up and tried to surrender, trying to save her life. Folks, James Jordan showed zero mercy. When the hiker threw her arms up, he began stabbing her until she fell down to the ground and pretended to play dead. Thankfully, James Jordan fell for this, and after she fell down, he returned back to the campsite in order to locate his pit bull. So this next part of the story is just absolutely incredible. In a testament to her strength and her will to survive, this female hiker got up, and then she ran down the trail in search of help and in search of rescue. She ended up encountering a pair of hikers who were camped nearby, and they joined her on the pitch black six-mile hike out of the wilderness. And I just want to sit in this for a second. Six miles. She's just been stabbed. She's bleeding. She was just so strong that after all of this, she was still able to hike six miles at night. In order to reach safety. Folks, that's just straight up badass. There's pretty much no other way to describe it. This female hiker was transported to the nearest hospital, and thankfully, she would survive. We're actually going to come back to her at the end of the story. But as I mentioned, Ronald Sanchez Jr. would not survive. By pure random chance, this healing journey that he had set out on on the Appalachian Trail, would end up costing him his life, which it's honestly painful to say out loud. Again, as someone who just loves the AT so much. James Jordan would end up grabbing his dog and then kind of just stumbling around the trail in the dark. Around 4 a.m., he noticed yet another pair of hikers asleep in their tent, and he yelled at them that he needed their flashlight. This was very scary and confusing to the hikers, who I'm sure were sound asleep in their tent, and they obliged. But thankfully, they didn't get out of the tent and further entertain the violent man. They just unzipped it a little bit, and they handed him the flashlight, no questions asked. Thank God that's all they did, because if they had gotten out, then it's very likely that they too would have become victims. After the authorities received Ronald Sanchez Jr.'s SOS call, they dispatched to the trail, and they made the six-mile hike into the area using Sanchez's GPS as their target destination. They didn't really know exactly what had happened, but just after 6 a.m., they stumbled into the campsite-turned-murder scene and immediately noticed a stray pit bull kind of just wandering around the forest. They followed this dog, and it led them straight to James Jordan, who was very scarily still standing right next to the tent of the hikers who had given him the flashlight a few hours earlier. He was covered in blood, and thankfully, he was arrested, without resistance, I might add. And shortly after this, the officers found Ronald Sanchez Jr.'s body, and they also found the knife that had been used to kill him. James Jordan was marched out of the woods in handcuffs, finally ending his reign of terror on the Appalachian Trail. The legal proceedings that followed James Jordan's arrest are honestly a bit messy, especially because they weren't sure whether or not he was actually mentally fit to stand trial. In fact, that was the exact ruling by a U.S. District Court judge. But this decision was later reversed, and James Jordan was in fact charged with murder and assault. However, long story short when it comes to this, in the spring of 2021, after some delays and yet even more of a mess because of COVID and all the court systems getting backed up, ultimately, James Jordan was ruled not guilty by reason of insanity, and he was committed to a psychiatric institution where he is supposed to remain until he won't create a quote substantial risk of injury to another human being. As far as I can tell, James Jordan has not yet been released as of the making of this video. And honestly, this is just my opinion, but I sure hope he doesn't get released anytime soon. And it is worth mentioning that at the time of this video, James Jordan was not released as of the making of this ruling. Jordan's lawyers released a statement saying that he is now quote deeply remorseful for the profound sorrow that he has caused and that quote he regrets that his lifelong battle with mental illness ultimately resulted in this trauma and loss for innocent hikers and their families. Folks, this doesn't mark the end of our story. Four months after the attack, the female hiker who had been stabbed and then made her way out again, just absolutely incredible. This female hiker made her way up Mount Katahdin in Maine, which is the northern terminus of the Appalachian Trail. She initially, you know, while she was in the hospital, wanted to get back on trail when she was ready and continue her through hike. But she ended up just needing more time to recover. She obviously suffered some very, very severe injuries. But then four months later, she still needed some closure. And she figured that climbing Katahdin with some of the friends that she had made on the trail. Would be a symbolic way to move past the horrific events that she had lived through while she was in Virginia. She made her way up to the summit of Mount Katahdin. And then she actually continued on past the summit and tackled a very difficult trail known as the Knife's Edge. It's kind of a staple in Baxter State Park, a staple on Mount Katahdin. And so she was able to get the full Katahdin experience. I really hope that by climbing Katahdin and standing at the northern terminus of the trail, she was able to get some closure. But from what I've read, it apparently made her kind of internalize just how much she had been, you know, unjustly robbed of her Appalachian Trail through hike experience. And so because of this, she decided to give the Appalachian Trail another shot in 2020. Though I wasn't able to find out if she ever actually did this. And I'm assuming that's because of the craziness that ensued in 2020. Not very many people through hike that year, obviously because of COVID. And again, I'm just assuming this, But if that's the case, then that's just so terrible her. She was robbed of her experience in 2019 in such a horrific way and then she wasn't even able to hike in 2020. I mean, just absolutely terrible to put it mildly. This female hiker was later quoted in an Outside Magazine article making a very important point that I want all of you to hear in the conclusion of this story. She said, quote, I am statistically more likely to die in a car crash than I am on the trail. It's just pretty bad luck, a complete fluke that I got stabbed. And referring to her plans to hike the trail again in 2020, she said, quote, I wasn't scared the first time and I won't be scared the second time. And even if I was scared, are you really going to let a little fear stop you from what you want to do in life? In my opinion, she's absolutely right. Every single year, millions and millions of people hike on the Appalachian Trail. I've said this before. It's far safer to be on the AT than it is to walk down any city. It's far safer to be on the trail than it is to walk down any city. Which is something that we all do without even thinking twice about it. I really, really hope that you can admire this hiker's resilience. And I hope that you can believe her when she still advocates for people to hike the AT. Please show some love to her and to Ronald Sanchez Jr. in the comment section. It always warms my heart, guys, when I see how supportive you all are to the victims that I talk about in this story. So such a sad story. And I appreciate all of you tuning in and watching me tell it. Thank you so much for watching. I'll see you next time. Rated PG.