Doe Boy On Lola Brooke, Apple Commercial, G Herbo, Lil Keed, Drake, Future (Full Interview)
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The artist emphasizes their musical versatility, rejecting genre labels and showcasing their ability to excel in melodic and rap styles, exemplified by the Apple commercial. This commercial, which they initially dismissed as a low-priority task, became a career-defining moment through intense studio work and personal validation, leading to significant financial reward. The artist asserts full control over their music, stating that labels receive no royalties from their songs and only use their voice in commercial content. They credit their team for helping secure the commercial opportunity, which was fully locked in and not a speculative or open submission. The experience also highlights their evolving artistic confidence and connection to fans, especially through the cultural impact of songs like "Mini Vance," which became a defining aesthetic. The artist shares insights into their signature ad-libs, which originated from influences like Fifth Boy and have been widely adopted, though he remains open to credit without hostility. He notes that while many artists copy ad-libs, he avoids public disputes, valuing authenticity and growth. He reflects on the unpredictability of hit songs, emphasizing that success often relies on organic momentum, timing, and promotion strategies, not just song quality. He acknowledges that even his own songs sometimes fall short of expectations, and attributes this to the complex interplay of timing, audience reach, and platform algorithms. The artist also discusses his deep respect for collaborations with artists like Future and Herb, who overcame personal struggles to create hits, and shares personal memories of working with deceased artists such as Jimmy Wapo and Little Lonnie, with unreleased tracks still being kept for emotional and respectful reasons. He expresses a romantic relationship with Lola Brooke, with a shared tattoo symbolizing their bond, and hints at future collaborations. Overall, the artist presents a transparent, grounded, and evolving career built on authenticity, resilience, and a deep connection to both his craft and community.
at this point what genre of music do you consider yourself um i don't put myself in no genre because i can make all kinds of music and that's pretty much what i've been showing people lately like these past few years i've been showing people that i'm versatile i'm not just a against a rapper like everybody think like when you think of dope boy you think i'm on some bullshit like so i'll just show people that i can do the melodic shit i down there i can do that better than against a shit or just as good you know so just especially like i show people with the apple commercial that was like the real thing that showed people like oh no this nigga dead serious he could do this shit now let's sidestep for a second and talk about that apple commercial how did that even come to be um shit my team have put it together for real for real and it's so crazy because i wasn't even really taking it serious at first like because it's just like the point of life i was at i just wasn't i didn't give a fuck i wasn't really too much caring about music well not saying that i wasn't caring about it i just you know more fucker just be going through shit so it was just like i wasn't as locked in as i was supposed to be and i almost didn't do it like it was a lot of times where they like broke go go do that like i'd be in the studio and still to forget to do that shit like and then one day i just end up going to the studio and just like all right boom let me do this shit so but it's like the way they had a nigga doing it they make you record it over and over and over because you gotta say this line like this you gotta change act to end like shit like that particular ass shit so you gotta do a million fucking take so that shit was it it was worth it though but when i finally seen that shit on tv and i'm like damn i'm so glad i pushed through and i did that shit and then like you know the check landed and all that type of shit and i was grateful you know now what speaking of months what's the check doing something of that nature look like nice nice push over show zeros is that something okay so how does that work exactly is that something they just give you one lump sum in advance it's actually you get it's it's multiple things like so is it they gave me a advance and they gave me money towards my recruitment like well like for the label like so they gave me i got paid on the master side and i got paid on the publisher side and i got an advance is it something that the more the commercial gets played you get paid for as well no they they they get your ass off out of there right up from the jump like all right boom you agree to the terms then they go about their business and also how does something of this nature what i can't say the song i own full rights to the song like the song is is doughboy well it's under epic it was released through my label it was released as my single they don't get nothing from that so the royalties from that song they don't touch it they only get to use the commercial yes so that's that was good too so also how did this come to be in the sense of do they tell you straight up hey dough this is for an apple commercial this is what we're gonna do this is how it's gonna how it's gonna go down if you do it or is it one of those things hey we want you to submit to this you know it was it was it was pretty locked in it was for you it was locked in yeah it was locked in so it wasn't like a summation thing and hopefully i get it i definitely probably wouldn't do it if that was the case now just curious here as big as apple is as as global as a brand as it is there's a million artists out there yeah how are you selected to be for this commercial Drake asked me the same question either he asked me one day he like yo how the fuck did you get apple commercial that's shit i don't fucking know it that's crazy to me too when i really think about it like damn out of fuck i get picked to do an apple commercial but you know i can I can give a big shout out to my team though they did they think we're getting that together for and when you say team are you talking about management okay at the time my management at the time you got it got it uh and then also uh when it comes to this commercial do they tell you hey it's gonna be on this time at this at this at this day after yeah when it's about the air they give you all the channels is coming on and shit like that so but it's real easy for me because i watch football so much i literally watch the browns every Sunday so it came on during the browns game the first time the air it was i was watching football in the living room with my mama yeah so even though you knew it's gonna be on this time this channel whatever you actually heard it more so organically it just came on while you're watching i knew it was coming on okay you did yeah i knew it was coming on i just didn't know exactly when yeah but i did know it was going air so the first time you hear it what goes through your head what was that like hearing your voice on this commercial that shit was because that was the first time i really been on tv and then something to that magnitude like nigga that's an apple commercial for the new iPhone they coming out with like nigga the apple that's why i never get rid of this phone i will never get rid of this phone because they gave this to me and they don't even give people phones like people that work for them can't even get these phones they're not allowed to give phones is this a special phone yeah this is a special phone like i said no i ain't gonna lie i need a phone though like y'all got to figure that out and got me a phone so you ask them for the phone or they told you they were gonna give you what i ask i had to ask for this i specifically ask like fuck the money in all that shit i need that phone though y'all gonna give me all this money can't give me a couple hundred dollar phone y'all crazy now where you in iphone user previous to this okay yeah and uh just for clarification which uh iphone commercial was that for those listening uh the 15 the iphone 15 if you don't know it was i'm i'm the plug the if you watch football you see me especially if you watched it like a year or two ago when when was that was that last year or was that two years ago okay fuck i remember they're on the iphone 17 now so i bet two years ago whenever it probably like two years ago if you was watching football and you seen that that commercial come on the the plug singing i'm the plug it's me i'm the face of the plug at night i remember when you and i were in seppara ball that's me the uh socket in the electrical outlet that was you now okay you knew this was coming to everyone else is surprised they had no idea outside of you and your team i thought the world up with that one what was the reaction from those that knew you this could be friends actually made me realize how big it was the people like how crazy they was acting about the shit like bro oh you want a different level now like that's some other shit like nigga that's next level because like you said niggas can't get them the biggest artists in the world can't get them you know what i'm saying so it's just like can't nobody fuck me for that that was go to now where there's some people that was like hey are they using your song on this hey did they give you permission to use this song of yours hey is this your voice did you get some of those questions too like some people that didn't know if it was you or no yeah it was it was definitely a lot of people that didn't know it was me it's people to this day that still don't know it's me a lot of people thought it was down to Oliver yeah i was getting some down to Oliver some chance the rappers i'm like no that's me now she a lot of questions about this apple commercials there anything else you want to say about it in regards to that shout out to apple i love y'all for life we locked in you need another one you got my number now when it comes to rap and that genre of music there okay what is your opinion on adlibs in a song they very necessary i feel like adlibs make the song like a lot of rappers they music be hard as fuck cuz of their adlibs like even me my adlibs is damn there the icing on the cake it's everything that oh really is undefeated like the old really so popular is to the point like hey no artists do a song with me without saying it like so i got a song with uzi here on that motherfucker oh really shit this song with ugg here on the beginning oh really song with dirt oh really like they've gotta say it like it's a thing and people showed me how big that that was too cuz i don't be sometimes i i not say it like i forget to say it but it got to a point where i'm like no i gotta stop doing that i gotta make sure i put in every single song and we'll talk about the history of that particular adlib viewers in a little bit but before we get to that just the subject of adlibs here okay with you is there a strategy when it comes to adlibs on a song yeah i got a formula for it for it like i know what go where like i got a i got my own set of adlibs so it's just like i pretty much know what i'm going to say every single time for it and speaking of this next question i got the hardest adlibs in the game so we're gonna let that be known nobody got no harder adlibs than me wow come here baby you think i'm playing oh really can nobody fuck with dump three right there don't bitches undefeated my new car come here baby that bitch been going crazy well for this love that we do one time come here baby now when it comes to each of these signature adlibs of yours can you give the historical the history of how they originated that should be like i'll be in the studio just get the doing shit like i don't even remember how i
I came up with come here baby or you think I'm playing or none of that shit out. But you think I'm playing I have been doing that just as long as I've been doing the old really for a for a real, but the old really, I got that from my homie fifth boy. Like my homie fifth boy and my homie Bravo type shit. Like fifth boy used to be like, oh really? And then Bravo, he'd be like, really? And then I just like, just naturally just merged it together. And like I was saying, like, oh really was never supposed to be as big as he got. Then I'm saying, I was just doing it. And then it became a thing and it just stuck with me and people like forced it on me. Now you had no problem here naming the inspiration for this particular signature of yours. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why no problem shouting out who inspired this or who, you know, because there are some of that ones. I feel like I'm a very honest person. So it's just like, I can't get in front of this camera and laugh. Then I'm saying, that's how I nigga get exposed. I don't fake my life. I just speak exactly what the truth is. You know what I'm saying? That's shit. That's shit. I'll bite you in your ass later on when niggas be lying and cappin. So it's just not in me to just get in front of the camera and just tell stories. That's shit, Wayne. And when it comes to Adlibs, these three as well. Have you heard other recording artists copy, steel, swagger jack, whatever the word is here? Any of your signature Adlibs? Yeah, I mean, to a certain extent, yeah, for sure. And not just when you're collaborating with someone like, no, definitely. If you're even a song with Louis Vuitton. I would steal my songs. Like, I said, I watch niggas steal shit from me all day long. I don't say nothing. Nor do I really care. I know I was inspired niggas. Niggas tell me I was inspired number two. So you know what I'm saying? That's all I care about is just like, don't be acting like you just not inspired by me. But if my fucker could come out and let me know and be honest, like you inspire me, then I respect it. Because that's what this shit here for. Like, you know, everybody still, each other Adlibs. Everybody Adlibs said is like, majority of the Adlibs came from a whole 'nother person. Gucci inspired a lot of niggas Adlibs. Like, flock of niggas, everybody get their Adlibs from other people. So I don't be like, oh, don't be still a bunch of shit. They don't know how to take that shit. And ask me. Don't take my old really though, that's the only thing they can say that. Unless you're on the song with you. Yeah, or unless you like one of my guys, guys, if you can't even do it, but if not, not. And just asking here because-- We're going to fall out. There are some that are really possessive over their signature Adlibs. To the point where if someone steals, copy, swagger jacks, whatever the right adjective there is, or verbiage, or whatever, they'll publicly or probably call this person out. I see niggas be crying over niggas still and shit that wasn't even theirs in the first place. I see niggas doing that shit all the time. That's what niggas do. Like, niggas remake a song. Like, a nigger will sample an old song. And then the nigger will do it too. And the nigger will be like, hey, he just copied me. And real loud, try to beef with that nigger. Nigger, we just stole this song from the same person. What you talking about? People will be crazy like that for real, for real. I see that shit all the time. And it sounds like you stay away from that mess. Yeah, I don't get into all that mess. You have a policy. Now, let me ask you this. When it comes to this policy where you don't get involved in stuff like that, have you always been like that? Have you always carried that policy? Or maybe you-- No, no, I used to be petty. You used to call people out at one point. Yeah, over anything. Yeah, I used to-- like, when I was young and coming up, I used to be on board, shit, I'd get a-- yeah. What got you to any little thing? Switch the policy there. Yeah, I just-- I don't-- I just come with getting grown and just understanding and learning. And just-- you know, I didn't know no better. So of course, I was just young and fraught. So it was just like I was just thinking on a whole 'nother level now. Now, when it comes to people giving you your flowers, so to speak, where they'll say, you know, you inspired them, and so on and so forth, what is your opinion of this? Because there's a debate when it comes to receiving flowers from someone. There are some that'll send these flowers out privately. You know, that might pull you to the side. DM you. Yeah, that's what a lot of them do. OK. That's what they do. They don't do it in public. Then there's some that do do it in public. What is your opinion of that? People giving your flowers privately versus publicly. Because there's a debate over that. I mean, it's cool either way. Everybody don't got to get on the internet and be like, hey, like, is everything ain't for the internet. So I don't expect them up. I forget to just come out the blue and just, but if you do do it, that's appreciated. And I respect that type of shit, too. Is it more appreciated and, excuse me, is it more appreciated and more respected if they do it publicly versus private? I mean, probably, probably a little bit. But it's still appreciated either way, though. But I've seen a nigga then gave me my flowers for something, and then I watched them take it right after. Literally. Shed some light on that? Yeah, like, motherfuckin' and then gave me my flowers on something particular and then did it right after. Like, did the same exact thing right after. What the-- I'm inspiring. That's a compliment to me. Now, what about this? Almost done with the subject of ad-wips here. When it comes to collaborating with other recording artists, which you've done, have you ever added your ad-lips to another artist's verse on the same song? And not just merely introducing yourself, like, you're about to be on the song and you're about to spit. But just your ad-lips throughout their verse, perhaps, sprinkle throughout. Like, me not on the song, but me doing ad-lips for something. Well, we'll talk about not on a song in a second. But first, let's talk about collaborations with songs you're on with others. Have you ever added your ad-lips to another artist's verse on the same song? Yeah, I do that a lot. Like, if I do a song with somebody, I'm probably going to ad-lip the whole song. So. Now, how does that work? Do they ask you to do that? I just naturally do it. When I go in the studio, I record my shit. I be like, hey, send me to the top. Then I just ad-lip over that motherfucking anyway. And then if you know, if it's too weak, could take it. I always like to just push it there, because you can always take from that you can't add after. So I'll just like it just cause. And then, what about on the opposite end of the spectrum, which you just honed in on, which was, are there songs of yours, where you're just ad-lipping a song. No hook, no verse from you on someone else's song? I probably-- I did some shit like that for a future before. It didn't came out. But I definitely just like ad-lip one of his songs that I wasn't on. He just one of my ad-lips on the tape sheet. Now, in a situation like that, do you ever feel like-- and I'm using this phrase loosely here. We can switch the verbiage or whatever later. But do you ever feel-- It matter fact, well, oh, the shit I did with Drake, it started off like one of them type of situations, but I ended up doing the verse too. But he had wanted to use the O'Reilly like on one of his songs. He wanted to use it, but he like, I need you to do this for me. And then it turned into a whole song type shit. And that's what was going to be asked next was, do you ever feel like disrespect? If someone just want your ad-lips on a song, I have no hooker for sure. No, I don't know. Now, I share a lot of questions here. Just on the subject of ad-lips, is there anything else you want to mention in regards to that? No, no, no, you touched very well. And now, moving on to some other questions here. Now, when it comes to your catalog of music, your discography, what would you say so far has been your biggest song? Number-wise, or impactful-wise, because I got songs, I got songs like "Mini Vance" that changed my life and was one of the songs that I was most known for at the point of time. Like, you did what I'm saying. And a lot of people know me for that song right now. Like, I'm the "Mini Vance" man. Like, everybody, when you hear rappers rapping about "Mini Vance," it came for me. Like, Niggas then started saying that term, "Mini Vance" until I did it. Correct me if I'm wrong. It probably was like an old-school Niggas, you probably could find. But like, no new age rappers was not rapping about "Mini Vance" until I did it, type shit. That's another thing I inspire my fuckers on, which is dope. So, you feel me? That "Mini Vance" definitely is like one of the songs that I'm most known for, because it's a whole aesthetic that comes with it. Like, it's like a style. Like, when dope boys make this type of music, that's "Mini Vance" dope. Like, you feel me so. But, I say probably my biggest with no features, with no features, 3-A-M-L-A. That's probably my biggest solo streamer's home. And you're going by stats there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, as much media and press as you've done thus far, are there any unknown facts or stories in regards to either of these songs that's never been publicly mentioned before, could be in regards to creating them, recording them, or releasing them? Um, let me think. I do got songs that I have wrote for people that haven't. I'm not sure if they came out yet. I got songs that I have wrote for people. But with these two songs, though, in particular. What? Oh, you talking about the songs I was just talking about? Yes. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. As much media press and coverage as you've done thus far, is there anything that's never been mentioned about? No.
like any secrets, any tea in regards to these songs. Anything that's never been. - I will say three of them at LA. I recorded that right after I left Drake House. So I went, did the song with Drake, did not went back to my studio session, and I recorded that song. And it ended up being my biggest song, I was probably in that zone, I was tired. - And for those in the audience that are unfamiliar with the song with you and Drake, care to share the title to that as well. - I mean, it ain't damn, what the fuck did he call that motherfucker? I think it's called O'Reilly or something like that. No, it's something like that. It ain't come out yet though. - Now, aside from your own recording sessions, have you been in any sessions where a hit song was created or recorded right in front of you? - Yeah, hell yeah. Shit down there, 18, future being dropping. I didn't to heard them record a lot of that shit. Like all these albums in shit, like majority of them bitches, I didn't heard all that. Yeah. And then, oh, went legit, herb. I was with herb in New York when he did that, when he recorded that song. That's why that song is like inspiring to me, like just seeing what he did and how he just beat the odds for real. Like, herb was at a point in his career. Like, he had a lot going on. Like, he was going through a lot. Legal troubles, personal shit. Like, in the end, around that time, he had just lost his dad. I was with him in New York when that shit happened. Like, all that shit was at the same time, like shit. So it was just inspiring for real. Just watching him beat all that shit and create the biggest song of his career. Herb needed that too. That was big for him. All, herb always been just, herb is a legend. Herb is that nigga. But we just all know, like, herb just need one more real quick. He just need that one more song which is knocking all the way, doing putting to a whole other stratosphere and he got that bitch shot out in my blood. Like so. Now, when it comes to a song like that, did you think it was going to be as big as it was for him when you first heard it? Nobody knew it was going to be that big to where it'd be the biggest song in the world. We knew that motherfucker was hard in the bitch, though. We knew that motherfucker was hard as hell. But I don't think nobody anticipated no songs to be as big as they end up getting. Like, like, I didn't think that he was going to make it his angle and it was going to actually blow up and be the one on the radio all day long. Like, that shit was crazy, especially even like the way he even dropped that motherfucker. I think that dropped that bitch randomly just on YouTube, no streaming platforms or nothing, and on his app. He got a G Herb or app where he dropped his music. Like, he just threw that bitch out and that bitch just went crazy. And what about when it comes to future as well? You know, his biggest songs that you've seen record in front of you and become huge songs. Were you able to guess right? I always, I always compete. Like, all right. So like, one of his songs, it's probably not like his biggest song. Like, number-wise or shit like that that I guess that was going to be one of the ones was that song. Yeah, I'm fraud. I'm like, this is going to be the one off that project. That's going to be the one. I knew fraud was going to be the one, and it's like one of them songs that's not big number-wise, but in the streets, like in the world when you go outside, it's like one of the biggest songs from that project. And then like a lot of the other ones, you be, we be knowing them shit is going to be that shit, like type shit, wait for you, shit like that, that shit is cheating. Like, you already know what that shit is going to do. Have there been any songs you were ever wrong about? Like, they surpassed your expectations. They became bigger than what you thought or vice versa, you thought. Yeah, that shit happened all the fucking times. Like, shit, even shit my own songs, goddamn, I dropped a song. I think that motherfuckin' hit finna be the biggest song in the world. And then that shit don't be the biggest song in the world, so that shit happened all the time. What do you think your meter is at this point? Are you better at guessing what's going to be a hit and it does become one versus it not? For other people, I'm 100% right. Like, even when a Metro dropped that album, when he just dropped that Atlanta album right, swear to God, I told my girl when I was listening through the album that take me through there, I'm like, this is going to be the hit. The first night I listened to it, literally when the album came out at 12 o'clock, I listened to that motherfuckin' right after. And I skimmed through the album and I listened to it. I'm like, that's the one. Time get the going on, I'm like, I'll tell you. I always, always pick 'em. I know how to pick other people shit. It's like when you pick for yourself, it's like heart. Now, has there been someone close to you and your team around you that's good at picking for you when you're not so good at picking your own music on what could be a hit and who can't? Is there someone better at you at picking and guessing correctly? No, because I think we all be wrong. Like, because if we was right, I'd have had to be a song in the world already. But it'd be kind of like, certain shit, we know what's going to be what. Like, to a certain extent. Like, say like, shit that got that one type of sound. Like, when I get on that, that minivan dope boy type shit. Like, we already know like, the reaction I'm going to get from it, like, we know it's going to make people be like, "Oh, this shit heart is for, we know it's going to get the people going, we know they're going to fuck with it." It just be about doing the song actually blow all the way. It's so many shit that got to fall into place. It's not even that my song's going to be the one. Like, majority of my music, like, you can listen to a song like Hippocrite. We all picked that to be the one you do what I'm saying. And it's not, although it's not the biggest song in the world. It's one of them songs that everybody that listen to my music love type shit, though. Especially like, in my city, like, everybody like love that song. And so it's just one of them things, shit, got to fall in place. That'd be the thing about picking for yourself. Because it's not that the song, signically, don't sound like a hit. If I was the biggest artist in the world, and I had everybody attention, and I dropped this music, I would know how to pick my music. They're going to be saying it's just hard because so much shit got to fall correctly for it to be a hit. Because I'm still grinding at the end of the day. I'm not the biggest artist in the world. I'm famous, but I ain't all the way famous. So if I was all the way famous, like, when I really get in the game, I'll be a hit making machine because I know how to signically put out a hit. When you say things have to fall into place, can you just give an audience maybe like a little sample of like some of those things that have to fall in place? So shit, like, everything got to fall in place as in like the time it got to be right. First of all, like, when it's time for you to have a hit, it's going to happen. Like, you need something, something going to go viral or something. Something, it needs a little moment. Like, it needs something to just, because the key is to get everybody to listen to it. Songs don't end up becoming his because they get slept on because certain people didn't even ever heard it. So that be the hard part is actually making sure everybody listens to this song. So it's just like, this shit be so difficult nowadays, you got to like overly try to promote something. And that's that's what I got to learn how to do for real. It's just like, when you pick a song, you got to overly promote that motherfucker over and over like post that motherfucker every day. Like, do different content to it and just keep doing it over and over, see? And you got to not also care about the numbers on that bitch too, because the motherfucker don't like post and shit because once you post something, the wait, Instagram algorithm work, once you post something once anything, you post about that same thing is going to engage me going to drop massively. Unless it's like something super crazy that that's like you feel me probably a celebrity listening to it or something that make people be like, oh whatever, but if you keep doing content to the same shit, it's going naturally go down, but you got to not care about that shit, because even if that motherfucker get 500 likes, shit that's 500 people probably didn't even hear the song before. So you got to just do that shit and then also understand how Instagram algorithm work nine days like, nigga, I purposely, I purposely one day, I got a page where I only follow myself and I'm like, let me post something to see if I see it in my timeline. I posted it and I didn't see it in my timeline. How the fuck don't I see it in my timeline? Not only follow me, see everybody but me motherfuckers, I don't follow. So that's show you Instagram being bored shit with this new algorithm. You notice a lot of people hiding their likes and shit nowadays because they're like, damn man, what the fuck my gang is me looking like that because Instagram not showing niggas your shit gang. It ain't too, it ain't even that show shit falling off for nothing gang. They just not showing niggas. So you get what I'm saying? So it's just like, you can't care about that shit. I don't care about likes, I'll post something that get 40,000 likes. I'll post something that get 100,000 likes. 20,000, 10,000, 2,000, 4,000. It's just all about the content because Instagram is very specific about what the fuck they push out to the people. Like if you post in the fire automatically not getting no likes. If you like promoting something, it's automatically going to fuck up the engagement. Like keywords like when you say out now coming soon, there's that in the third Instagram automatically begging his promo. They make you, they try to force niggas to pay for that shit. So I didn't like, I managed to do that shit to like understand like how that shit worked. So it's just like niggas figuring out how to work around it. So it's just be about like, you got to just stay consistent with new content and the content got to look great. Like it's certain shit. Like I know when I do this is going to go crazy. Like if I free
on the radar. I know it's going to go crazy. I could make a video on the studio right now, freestyle with my liquor bottle, and they're going to love it. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I know how to do it every single time I want to. That's the thing, though. Is it also, again, for those in the audience, maybe up and coming recording artists? Is it a money thing? So, hear me out. Can a person pay for a song to be a hit? To a certain extent. You could pay for a song to be a hit after it's already a hit. You could put money on a hit and make it a bigger hit, but you can't pay for a song to be a hit. If that song not meant to be a hit, it's not going to be one. And when you say meant to be a hit, is that strictly organic? Yeah, it got to be organic because you can't. I mean, you can't force people to like something, but you can't do a certain extent. If the song catches you and stoop it, it could work. If you got something in the song that could catch people's attention, then yeah, you kind of can force it to a certain extent, though, because this be the thing. You got to especially like trying to go viral on a TikTok and shit. You could have a song that got a bunch of viral moments, a bunch of moments in that song that could go viral, but the key is like, all right, how do I get you got to figure out what's part is the one that goes viral, though. So this is something that I never tried, yet before, but I think I might do is take a song and just make a bunch of TikToks to every 15 seconds of the song. Post a TikTok or like content to every bar of the song, every couple bars, and see if one of them gets it because you got to, you don't know which part of the song could go. My fucker could have a song and the chorus, they automatically go try to overly promote the chorus part. That might not even be the part that go viral. It might be the fucking the intro of the song, the first 15 seconds of you just saying a particular ad live that my fuckers can make nice TikToks to, that should be crazy, bro. Anything else on the subject of a hit song here? I think we touch all that, too. Now I do want to ask you this, when it comes to your discography, are there any future plans for additional installments to some of these series you have? So I'll start with this. Streets need me, too. Are there plans for a three? I've definitely been thinking about doing the three, but I think I was going to call this Streets Miss Me. I actually got like, I got a folder in my phone like with the artwork and everything as a concept. What about an update on some of these other series? In free bands, we trust three. You're on two already. I'm saving, I'm saving three for a very special person. Is it doing free bands? We trust three with. Okay. Boys in the hood, too. Is there thoughts on a third? I'd be thinking about it. I think about it all the time. Like my home is always me trying to get me to do points in the hood three. Like and get with Lex Luger. Like doing with Lex Luger all over again. I'd be really thinking about it. And I've talked to Lex about it. It'd be times where I'd be about the starting type shit. Like I got records with Lex. It just be about actually doing it. And last series here, if I'm not mistaken, you can correct me if I'm forgetting any others, but since 1994, part two. No, I've never touched that again. Why not? Because it's just so old. And I feel like you got to be a real, well, I got some fans that's from that like 10, 15 years ago that's still here. But you got to be a real real dope boy fan to know that shit. And I want to do a part three because that music is so old and cringed to me. I don't even want people listening to one or two. Since 1994, part one almost ruined my rap career. Almost stopped rapping. That shit came out. Boy, that shit dropped on lot of mis tapes. I had a negative score on that bitch. All the comments dogging me. Yeah, why he sound like he recorded this and the fucking trash can. My fuck is like the quality. They was dogging my studio quality because I used to record in my room and mix myself and everything. Like people was dogging the fuck out of me. That shit almost made me not want to rap no more. Ask DJ Lil King, whoever is King. He the one who he kept me sane and made me like keep going. So shout out to King because I almost quit. What do you want to say to those in the audience that remember that music? And we're one of those negative comments or negative feedback. What do you want to say to those critics? Look at me now. I'm still here. Still going. Do you agree with them? Was that quality trash? Okay. That shit wasn't. You'll give into that. You'll admit. But it was hard for at the time. I listen to it now. It's because it's me and it's old. I think it's trash. But at the time, that shit was hard for real. For real. What's your opinion of doing something of that nature like 15, 10, 15 years ago and now the invention of like band lab where people can really like just record off of their phone? Yeah, I got I'll be fucking with band lab. I'll be doing shit on band lab. But what's your opinion of that? How technology has changed where? Yeah, that's crazy. It's for what band lab can do now with something you were trying to emulate in its simplicity back that I had Kuwaiter Pro. That shit is crazy. It's for okay. Am I am I missing any other series or did I touch all the series you've done there? I might touch oh really again, too. I might do it. Oh really, too. Okay. So that was going to be that my biggest album ever, too. And demons are us. Demons are us too on the way, too. That's definitely on the way. So that was going to be the next question, which was which of your standalone titles that aren't a series yet, where you thinking about turning into a series and you mentioned to it. Demons are us too and over into my two biggest albums ever. So that's confirmed you do have a two on the way. Yeah, both don't bitches. Got hundreds of millions of streams. And what about 2026? Is there anything else the audience can look forward to you from musically? Um, I'm really just keeping my foot on the gas. That's what this shit about this year. Stand consistent and stay focused and stay locked in like how I know I can't be how I'm supposed to be. And really just taking it to that one level that I know I'm supposed to be a tour that I, well, I ain't going to say I'm supposed to be because everything happened when it's supposed to happen. So I'm just headed there though. I'm headed in the right direction. And there's another thing too like because a lot of people like I see motherfuckers niggas be telling me I fell off tape shit like, but that's what they post to say and that's what motherfuckers think because all right. I ain't had a little a song in a little minute, but that's how this shit post to go. Area artists go through that. Like no matter who you is, every artist don't always just gotta hit. We didn't see the biggest motherfuckers go cold. Everybody go through that. But I don't give up. So you ain't never got to worry about me falling off because I would never quit. So that's the thing. Ain't no falling off. I can't fall off and I ain't dead enough but get bigger. I got the most everything I ever had in my life. So I didn't fall off. I've just really getting started for, I'm just getting my feet wet. Yeah, I think it's crazy. And what shall fucking my stupid ass boy? I'm as fuck. Now I do want to ask you this because you know one of my initial questions with some of these topics, I ask you, you know, what's been your biggest song so far in your catalog when we were talking about songs? And you mentioned, well, this was my biggest song impact wise with the culture. And this might have been statistically bigger. And then you said something to the effective, well, this song with no features. And then you mentioned 3 a.m. and NLA, I believe is what you said. But when it comes to features, do you feel like your stereotype with that? Do you feel like you're in a box? Do you feel like people see you with a lot of features? You're featured out. I don't even, like there's some recording artists. They don't have a lot of features. They do a lot of features. And they be overly like. And then there's some, there's some artists that every project they put, it looks like it's a compilation almost because there's so many features on the project. I do that a lot, but not for real. It be, it be just right. Like my albums be how they supposed to be. Sometimes I drop albums like little projects with no features. And then I be known what the fans won't do. And then certain artists just compliment the songs. I always get features that a motherfucker wouldn't even be thinking of. I just dropped a song with Fetty Wilde while he was in jail. Shit, motherfuckers that I know sound good. I don't care if a motherfucker hot at that moment or nothing. It's all about making good music for me. So it's a lot of talented motherfuckers that not hot as they was. That don't mean I'm not going to do songs with them. I put them on my songs, on my albums and everything because I want the music to sound good. And that's what they're shit about. They ain't about who hot and who not. I got features with everybody that's hot. I think they're songs with every rap rock and think of them there. So it's like that shit don't be about that for me. And you know, speaking of that, like if someone were to look like, you know, your top 100 or top 200 songs on a platform like title, for example, okay, maybe not maybe in a project you have a balance to a certain way like you just described. But if someone were to look at your like hottest 100 songs or hottest 200 songs, it's a lot of songs with you in features versus maybe another artist with not a lot of features or very little amount of features for you. Why so many features during the course of your entire career? I mean because I'm blessed to be able to do features with anybody that I want to. So it'd be like if
If anybody had the luxury of being over to get features, the features that I get, I get the craziest features. I got like, if you look at my features, they look like I spent millions of dollars on my feature budget and I didn't spend nothing. They said, love and genuine. So if anybody had the luxury to get the motherfuckers on the song, if a motherfucker can go grab future for a song, you don't think he ain't gonna put them on that bitch. If a nigga could get a little dark on his album, he'd think he's not gonna do it. And so it's like, shit, hell yeah, and like, if you look at the biggest artists in the game, they always do features. Everybody's shit is me looking like that for real, for real. It's only certain motherfuckers. One nigga who I, who catalog is like that, is my nigga Kiglock. Kiglock is like the only nigga who just don't do no features. Like, he give them the motherfuckers, but he ain't putting out no feature. Then I'm saying, it's only like a handful of people that could do shit like that. He the only one that come to mind type shit when I'm thinking right now. But everybody do that shit. Features make the world go wrong. 'Cause that's what the world wanna hear. Everybody wanna hear people that sound good together. Whenever I do a song, even when I drop a song, they'd be like, I can hear this motherfucker on there. Put her on that. Put this person on there type shit. So that's what they, you gotta get the streets what they want at the end of the day. - You even have features with legacy artists like Bone Thugs. - Exactly, exactly. I go grab anybody. - Now, how are you doing this? What is the secret with you? Are you just good at network? How are you able to get all these features? 'Cause there are some recording artists that have to pay for one feature or every feature or can't even network or get how do you, what is the secret? What are you doing that these other artists aren't? Even established artists. - Yeah, no, for sure. It's just being genuine. - Like, for example, you have as many features maybe like a trade the truth or a rich the kid or a French montagne. It seems like you're in a crop of people that seems to always get elite features, big features. You can almost, from the outside looking in, it almost looks like you can get anybody. - He just hit me up about a feature. - But you guys look like feature kings. Like, you can get any feature, anybody's touchable. I'm sure there may be some, and we'll talk about this a little bit. Maybe there's some on your wish list that you haven't gotten. But it almost looks like, from the outside looking in, you can get anybody. - I really can't. It's set like, motherfuckers like Taylor Swift and certain people like that that I wanna do songs with that I can't just get my hands on. But it just be about, I'm a genuine person. So niggas just be fucking with me just naturally. So it'd be like, even though I'm not the biggest artists in the world, so it ain't even like a motherfucker just doing it, trying to use me type shit. Niggas be doing me favors, but I'd be doing them favors too at the same time. Like, 'cause it go both ways, because at the end of the day, I'm still that niggas. Like, even though I might not be the biggest, but I'm, I am the biggest, actually, statistically. I might not be the biggest, but I'm that niggas. Like, so it'd be like shit, motherfuckers. Like I said, motherfuckers get songs from me, motherfuckers get it. Like, I'm just wanting them people. Like, you can learn a lot from a niggas like me, and they just come with, with who I am as a pro, I stand on business, motherfuckers know that. Like, a lot of niggas in the industry know I'm a solid nigger on that aspect of things. So it's just like, it's all around hell. Yeah, I'm a fuck with, but like, niggas gonna fuck with me just 'cause, and then niggas my big brother is future. Like, so it just all go hand in hand. Like, even the motherfuckers do that shit off of his face. Like, even if a motherfucker not even, don't even fuck with me. A nigger would do it just because of who my brother is type shit. So, a nigger would be trying to use me to get to him. So, you just never know. But a lot of people just generally just fuck with me though. Like, as motherfuckers that don't even look at me as that. Like, like, I don't live in his shadow if you give what I'm saying. Like, I'm still my own person at the end of the day. They know we like this, but we are own people. And that's how it's supposed to be. And sometimes you do a feature maybe at a certain level, at a certain time. And then, five years later or 10 years later, when someone looks at that same song, because of the growth on your journey and the ladders that you've climbed, it almost looks like it's even at that point. Like, 10 years ago if you do a feature with so-and-so, it looked like the feature was bigger than you. But now, 10 years later, when you look at it, they might have fell off a little bit or you got up a little bit. And now it almost looks like it's balanced. It almost looks like, dang, did he know Doe was going to be this person 10 years? It's so crazy, because if you look at my catalog, like, let me look, let me see something real quick. Take your time. I'm looking at my biggest songs right now. A lot of them is by myself, like my biggest, like my biggest song that always be at the top of my sheet. The only two songs that be just, like, in the way, is I'm scared with the 100 Shooters With Future, because that's not my feature, it's day song. So, of course, it's just, like, overly just going always, strange, crazy. So always overshadow my catalog, but when you go, my songs, my solo songs always be the biggest. Sit, like, respectfully in 3M LA. Sit, don't be getting in front of them. You dig what I'm saying? Like, my solo songs be up there. Respectfully is another song that's streamed like a motherfucker too. That's one of my biggest songs on the low. And it's so crazy, I don't have a video to neither one of them songs. So I will say, I probably dropped the ball on the bitches to be honest. I had two hits and I didn't shoot videos to them and really do what I was supposed to do. Why not? I don't know, because I just dropped the album. And then it's like, you know, you drop an album and then you just let people pick what's the one. Like, I didn't put it out as a single and 10 then for it to be a single. Like, I didn't know. And by the time I really thought about it, I'm like, damn, it might be too late. Like, I waited too long and then I just like, I fuck it. Now, when it comes to all the features that you've done thus far, what's been your favorite in your music career so far? Um, that's out. Sure. Um, wherever you want to take this question, released, unreleased. I was, I mean, honey, shoot is my favorite feature of all time for it. Why? Because it was that point of my life or just everything that was going on. That's when my life was changing right on my face. So just that time of life just made me learn that song so much. All of them songs came out around the same time. That's a crazy part. Like a crazy ass feature run at that time. If I'm not mistaken, that's also the only song that's went gold at this point for you. Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, solo song. So like, I would say I've been on, I've been on platinum albums, but the song directly, yeah. And did you collect that plaque? Hell, yeah, I got that plaque. Where is that plaque? I got my wall in my bedroom right now. I got like, I got like three plaques. The other two were like albums you were a part of? Yeah. One of them was mine. I got a plaque. I got a, uh, like a billboard plaque for, uh, for the overly album, or really was my biggest album. Definitely. I got a billboard plaque for that. And the other one. I went number one on the, uh, he said her thing. So I got a plaque for that. And then the other one was the I'm scared, the, uh, so much fun album, I got a plaque on that. And then I got other plaques though. I just ain't get them. I know, I know trippy red got an album that I was on that, that got a plaque. Um, I got most, you know, I could get a plaque for, uh, for future high-off life album. It's a lot of shit out there that I could go get. I just got to get that shit. Now, when it comes to your past features, I do have a, uh, a few more questions about them. There are some recording artists you've collaborated that have passed away as of this interview. You know, wanted to see if you could share with the audience any memories of those specific features, like how they came about or the recording process, any wild or crazy stories in regards to them, so on and so forth. Starting with you ain't gang featuring Jimmy, Jimmy Wapo, always fucked with Jimmy. And I actually got a song. I need to drop that motherfucker, I flipped his, uh, the Amstreet. I flipped that bitch. I need to drop that, matter of fact, I'm glad you just brought that up. And that's something that I was thinking about dropping a couple of months ago. This was something that I recently was like, yeah, I might need to do something with this. But can you take the audience back onto that song, how that feature came about, so on any other? Yeah, I always fucked with Jimmy on some, on some shit, like he was on the street coming, like when I was coming up, he was coming up type of thing, he from Pittsburgh. So I'd be like, I remember when I'm a fucking, I went to Pittsburgh one time, it was probably the nastyest show I ever went to, like, talking about it was right in the hood, like nigga, it's like a fucking hole in the wall, nigga, his house is on the street, like, it's like that in the hood type shit, we walking them up, fucking they got metal detectors. If you walk in the spot and they got metal detectors, you know you went some bullshit. So that was, that was nasty right there, I used to be doing some nasty ass shit, right? So yeah, I, I love Pittsburgh though, shout out to Hardo, shout out to Taylor Gain, Wiz Cleef, all of my fucking Pittsburgh heavy.
So you reached out to him to collab, he reached out to you. We just had like a mutual relationship. Yeah, like I don't think it was a, I don't remember exactly how we, like who reached out. It was like, we was just cool and it just came about, I don't really remember. It was his song though. So I'm pretty sure he did send it to me to just get on. And what about this, another feature that you've done with someone that passed away, add up featuring little line, oh man, yeah, when I came home from jail, I always liked his music. Like he was damn, that's crazy, you brought up bro. And yeah, I always just liked it, Lonnie music, Lonnie was fire. I reached out to him when I got out of jail and shit, because like I said, I came home and that was one of the niggas, I'm like, what the fuck is this nigga, he was fired. And when it came to both of these songs, the one with Jimmy, the one with little Lonnie, are they done digitally like trading access, I never met them in real life, I met Jimmy, but I ain't never meet Lonnie. Did you meet Jimmy after the collab or before, before? And when it comes to both of those songs, were those the only songs recorded with one another, or are there any unreleased songs you have? Yeah, that's true, so yeah. You think so? There's all got it. Now I do have some questions about some other features you have, but are these two the only ones collaborated with that have passed away? Um, nah, hell nah, R.P. Little Keith, um, man, so many niggas that died, I can't even think right now, like, I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure I got more songs with dead niggas though, like, rest in peace there, everybody. If you probably name a few artists, I probably could do it like that, but I can't, I can't really think right now. It's a lot. I don't have the name of the song or songs with a little keed, how many songs did you guys do together? We got a bunch, man, keed got, yeah, we got a few songs together. Done in person? Yeah, a person, keed always be a, we always run each other type of thing. Yeah. Do you think there's any other unreleased songs of you two? Yes. Yeah. That's all these songs are released. Oh, yeah. No, these songs publicly. They're not out. Yeah. Are there any plans for any of them to come out? Yeah, I got one. I want to drop hell, yeah. And why have you, excuse me, why have you held onto it this long for, or this amount of time for? Um, it just be a thing, like, when people die, I don't be one of like, cocktails off the moment, if that makes sense. Like, I don't want to seem like that's what I'm trying to do. So you feel me? So I just, like, I'll be falling back and then I'll just, you know, because I don't, I don't like when people do shit like that, so I wouldn't do it. Now, I should have several questions here about some of the collaborations you had with people that passed away. Some with people that have just recently came home. Some with people that are currently incarcerated, but also some that you've been romantically involved with. And, uh, you have a song with Lola Brooke. Yeah, we got a few songs too. That's the only song publicly available. How many unreleased? We got a few. We probably got like five. I got some fire shit out by the job with her and we got some hard shit coming up. And, you know, Valentine's Day recently passed. Was there a thought on maybe releasing a song of you two together on Valentine's Day? It was a thought. It was a thought. Has there been. Sometimes shit just don't happen to how it goes to happen. We was too caught up in living life. Like, so, I don't know, it just, we don't be on rapper timings sometimes, you know? Has there been talk of a project of just you two? Yeah, that's all we, everybody be on our ass about that. If they want us to do that so bad, and that shit will be hard as fuck though, that shit will be fired. It's coming though, one day. Now, in regards to her, a couple of questions about you two, obviously, you're doing this interview right now. Where is she? Text me, seein' where I'm at. Now, for those that don't know her personally, of course, they've heard her name, listened to her music, but from your vantage point, and your special relationship you have with her, what is she really like? She everything that you, like, if you look at her page, that's her. Like, if you look at the shit that she do, the way she act, that's her. That little one for the crazy. That's that person. Now, you have a variety of tattoos on your body. Are any of them in reference to her? That'd be, yeah, we gotta put that back on your, your body there, but, so, you see that? That's what we do. So, you got one tattoo currently on your body referencing her, and what is the meaning behind that? You could have put that on any part of your body, why that portion for you? Put my whole body covered, and I wanted to put it somewhere that could be seen, it's, like, probably, like, one of the only places that's, like, isolated. Now, is that part of a matching tattoo set? Does she have one? We was just about to get our matching tattoos when we was just running the other day, but some shit had happened, and I just, some shit fucked up my mood, and I had to get the fuck up out of London. So, it just didn't happen, it was some other shit going on, it was a personal shit. But that's something that's been talked about, that's something that was planned. Yeah, we're doing that. Yeah, but you're just got to, I got to find where I'm going to put my, but I know where she get her. But yeah, we get matched tattoo. But aside from that matching tattoo that is a forthcoming, she doesn't have any tattoos on her body. Yeah, she got, like, old tattoos from when she was young, but she now, like, a tattoo girl, but I'm trying to get her into, like, I want her to get, like, a sleeve, and she, like, you drop, tell her that she's going to be a hard spot. So, I'm going to assume here, and yes, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, this matching tattoo idea sounds like it came from your end. No, I ain't even going to say it was my idea, no, it's her idea. Her idea, even though she's not a tattoo person. Yeah, no, no, no, no, for sure. Now, take the audience back onto the, this tattoo that you have of her. How deep into the relationship were you to before you get this tattoo? Like, were you? I just got this tattoo. Three months in, six months in. Well, we popped out for Valentine's Day, right? That's when we went public, we went public last Valentine's Day. All right, we went public last, damn, time be flying. We went public last Valentine's Day. So I got this tattoo on a surprise, like, I surprised her with this tattoo on Valentine's Day. Like, I walked in and I was like, I didn't even tell her. I just waited till she just saw it. So that was like a thing. And before you even get that tattoo, I bet I was fucking one of her for a little minute, like we was homies at first, like it was just a situation that turned into that. So how long do you think you were? So I guess do you consider Valentine's Day the official time you started as a couple or was it even before it became public? Like, not that long before that, not that long before, like, we actually was like, all right, we couldn't be together. It wasn't that long before that, yeah. So before I even ask you this next tattoo question, just going public, whose idea was it to go public? Was that talked about before you to actually do, in fact, go public, do one of you go public for the other? I mean, we always talked about it. We were scared at first, like, because it's just one of them things like, we really love each other and we don't want people to take this as a joke, like, we don't want people to, because you know how people, the internet get really to fuck up your life in your relationship and we like, we got so good when we want to fuck it up by letting the internet into our business. But as time went on, we was just like, all right, we could do this and then it was just one of them things. She was like, you got to, you got to be the one to do it, because I'm scared. So somebody got to, somebody got to do it, like, force me, like, force my hand. She didn't even know I was finna post it. She was sleep the whole time. We over here going viral. We on the shave momentary day, no, we going crazy. She woke up, her phone was going crazy. I'm like, yeah, I did it and then we just went from there. Now how do you feel about the time you did it, when you did it, do you feel like looking back, you should have waited longer before going public? No, it was perfect. We waited. We was all the way solid first before we put people in our business like this year was unbreakable before we let people answer it, like, you do what I'm saying. It happened how I was supposed to. And I feel like we do everything the right way, like, we don't overly expose ourselves, like, we don't put our business on there. We show each other here and there. We don't show each other when we wait each other all day.
that type of shit, we don't show that. Like we will because what I can say, people love us like we like to know everybody favorite couple. We as the hardest couple in the world right now though I was, that's merged. For sure, we got the hardest relationship. But it's just like we know how much people love us and how addicted we can be. So we don't want to do too much. I think we do it just enough. We found a medium. - And when it comes to this London trip, me personally speaking here, I follow both of you two, I've interviewed both of you two previously solo separately of course. So anyone that I interview, I follow on Instagram. So sometimes how the algorithm is on Instagram, sometimes you see stuff on your timeline come down, sometimes you don't, stuff isn't chronological order anymore, things of that nature. But I did see her go on this London trip. And it looked like the way some of the first initial videos or photo she put out, it almost looked like she was there by herself. I didn't know if she was there by herself or then it, you know, with some of the angles, I'm like, did she take her bestie? It looked like her bestie was with her. I didn't even know you were on this trip. The reason why I'm bringing this up is because it just proves your example where you say, you don't show everything, you don't show where you're there every day. Now, I don't know if you were there at the beginning of the trip where you joined later. What I can say is, while we was out there, we was posting each other on the story type shit. We was posting stories of each other. And then if you go look at a video on her page, she got, it's like, well, matter of fact, the club posted that, so I don't even matter of fact, she posted that on her story, that's how I seen that video. Yeah, you could just see me walking in the background, walking with her and carrying her and shit, but you see, I ain't got nothing on my page about it or nothing like that type shit, so it's just, you know, when you live in life, you don't be on Instagram all the time. We don't got to show each other, because then I don't want to, I also don't want to make it seem like this is what we're doing because this is not a PR relationship or this is not that, like you do what I'm saying. So we'll be trying to just overly do that. And speaking of that, speaking of that, I do want to sidestep with that, because sometimes when people see two recording artists or two people entertainment get together, sometimes people in the audience, I'm speaking of, they wonder, is it a PR stunt? Is this something that management puts together and say, hey, you two should get together, and drum up the views, get the algorithm going, blow it up. You can tell when shit fake, like people thought, when we first popped out, they thought it was, like I was seeing comments, like Niggas thought it was, but as time got to going on and they see how we are with each other, you can't fake that shit. Like I'm literally, I got two brush and like, I live in her house, like, and she live in mine. It's like, like, that's my real girlfriend. Like, while y'all sitting here saying this PR, I'm playing and the band with this woman right now. Like, and just for clarification, this London trip, were you there from the very beginning, or did you pop out? - No, I came a couple days later. - Okay, guys. - She had work out there, like, she was out there working. And that's another thing too, she out there working, like, she's doing events with, like, if image would win, stop, and fucking, like, different companies and shit like that. So, she working, I ain't trying to be, like, it's not about me, this her, like, if you, I'm just there, but Niggas, then the day they shit about her, like, just because I'm dope, and I don't got to be, all their her videos and shit, also, sure, nice hit, nah. - So, I guess it was factual, in a sense, because the initial thing that was down my timeline was, like, her posting, like, her on the plane, and I guess it was, like, her initial part of the trip. I didn't get a chance to look at the stories and things of that nature, but when I saw the initial, it looked like it was just her, or maybe her, and her friend, I was, like, I was purposely looking personally, like, hey, it's dope way around, it's he gonna be in one of these slides, but I didn't see you, and, like, you mentioned, you popped out a little bit later in the trip, and, you know, people paid attention, they could see you, if they paid attention to the clues, or, if, what the, what is the phrase? If you know, if you watch our pages, then you see her, she was posting stories of me, and I was posting stories of her. So, if you was watching our pages at that time, yeah, but, I ain't posting anything on my page, and she ain't posting anything on our page. - Now, our people, and when I say people, like, fans, and listeners, and things of that nature, are they snitching on you, too, like, in the sense of, and I'm using that figuratively here, like, hey, Lola's here in London, where ya at, Doboy, do you know she's in London? Like, our people trying to-- - People DM me and say, "We're shit like that all the time." They always be messing with us. And they be talking shit to us all the time. - How do you handle that? - I don't pay any attention. I get so many DMs, should I all be looking at that shit for real? - Now, just a couple of questions about this particular tattoo. You surprised her with it. Was this talked about at all? - Uh-uh, hell no. - She was not like, you need-- - It was something I just thought of. I'm like, ooh, that would be, that's like a Valentine's Day gift. That's like this a gift, too. Like, for me, just-- I don't know, I just like doing romantic type shit. Shit, that I know would make a motherfucker happy. Like, I know, or is she a like this? This is gonna be you, I ain't gonna lie. - And was her reaction like, okay, now I gotta get one, two of you? - Yeah, no, for sure, yeah, yeah. But she was happy as far. I think she cried. - Now, you mentioned girlfriend and boyfriend here. That's as far as the titles are currently. Nothing more than that. That's my everything. - But not engaged to be married yet. Not in married, maybe mama. Everything, I can name. Whatever the fuck you think I'm with a girl. - Not Beyonce yet. - Whatever you could do with a girl that you in love with, that's what we is. Everything, it's my everything. Hey, I love you, you my everything. I'm the only man in the name. - Now, a couple of questions here before we wrap up. Just for those in the audience though, that don't know the history of you too, and taking it all the way to the very big. How did you two even meet? Do you recall that? I know you said it was homies at first. - Rolling out in New York. I was out there with Future. I performed and Future was a Future perform too. And did she perform at that one? I'm not sure if she performed too, at that one. But you know everybody, it was a big ass studio session, like Future, Meek Mill, Me, Her, Usy. Anybody you could think of was just there. Like, it was a big ass studio session then. I saw her type shit. But it's so crazy, 'cause I just start talk, like that day, I'm like, when I was in New York, I'm like, that'll be hard for me and her, that's all. So I literally hit her up earlier that day. Like, no, we need to, it's time. We need to do something type shit. And then she ended up, we went to say less. I seen her in there, I'm like, yo, swear you here. And then it just went from there. And then we went to studio, I seen her again. I'm like, yo, whoo, whoo, whoo. And then we did that dumb song, that song that's out at like five in the morning. And then we just bobbed and dope type shit. - But it was-- - That's not even when we started talking. - So this was genuine friendship at first. It wasn't even like-- I mean, I was flirting, probably, I think. Accident, not for real for real, but-- - Putting the vibes out there, just in case. - Yeah, I was, man. But not for real, though, I ain't bite down yet. - So who initiates the relationship and takes it into something deeper than just flirty vibes on who makes the first room? - She like way back me, we back each other. So it was like one day she was in Atlanta and she went to the studio. And I'm like, no, matter of fact, I was at the studio already. I was at the studio already and she was at the studio and I was leaving the studio, it was like late at night and shit, I was leaving the studio and I got home and shit and I seen her-- she posted on her close friend, damn, did I go to the studio with her before she posted that or was that after? No matter of fact, I pulled up to the studio with her. I left my session, went to the studio with her and fucking, when I left, she posted something on her close friends. Like, she put me in her close friends and was like, I got a long ride back. I need to-- I wish I had somebody to talk to. But she told, like, this is-- she did that because she knew I was going to call her and I actually called. And then it just went from there and type shit. So she begged me on the low. Now, can you describe what that first date was like between you two? Was there an official first date? Our first date? It was just funny because it used to call us Craig and Carla, type shit. Because it would be like, you know, motherfuckers was just sneaking around and shit. And then, you know, her brothers and all that. Like, everybody, she ain't want nobody to know and shit like that, though. And it was so funny, though, because we was like in LA. We was in LA and shit. And I pulled up on there and I picked her up. And then her brother was like, what are you leaving with? I'm in a backseat when the road definitely shit. She's like, don't worry about it. It was just funny times and shit, though, just-- Was there an official first date? Y'all first date with the LA.
and want to say where? - We can't tell you our spots. - Okay, got you, got you. But can you say this as an answer to the next question? - Who said I love you first? - Me. - Do you remember how you said it? Where you said it? When you said it? - I was on the phone, we was on the phone. I was at my room and I just said it. - And what was her response? - I said, I love you too. It's like, damn, don't we really just do that? Like, yeah, I love you. I don't give a fuck. I ain't got no pride. - And, okay, what about when it comes to the entertainment industries? This is the first time you've been in a relationship with someone in the same line of work as you, another recording artist? Or in the music industry period? - Like a. - This is my first relationship ever. - Okay, political response here. Or do you really mean that? This is your first relationship ever? - But, yeah, this is my first time being in a relationship with a recording artist here. - Now, were you one of those people that was like against that? Like, 'cause I know there are some recording artists or any line of business, hear me out. There's some that'll say, okay, if I'm in this industry, let's say I'm a dentist. If I'm a dentist, I don't wanna be with someone in the dental industry. I wanna be with someone outside of the dental industry. Were you ever one of those type of people? And then there's people that are the opposite. They want to be with someone in the same industry. And there's pros and cons and reasons for both. But were you ever. - If I'm fuck with you, I'm fuck with you. Like, it ain't got nothing to do with it. Like, you a rapper or a nut, 'cause it's just like, I know it come with this, yeah, of course. So it just feels about, can you handle it? Or like, I'm not an insecure as nigga. So, her being a rapper don't bother me. Like, I let her do her. Like, I don't stop her from doing nothing. Like, I let her handle her business. Like, I just told her, I just went out there with her to work. And I just let her rock out, same shit. I ain't one of them niggas that be like, no, you can't do this. I'm not insecure, I don't care about that type of shit. - What's it like when you two are in the studio together? What's a studio session with you two? - When we actually recording or when we just chilling, 'cause sometimes I'll be in the studio while she's working and she's being in the studio while I'm working. Just there for support, I say it just there. - And do either of you two like that? I know there's some recording artists that get into relationships with other recording artists. They want to keep that part separate. Like, don't come to the studio. I want to do my own thing and you can listen to it after a type of thing. - No, no, we like being this. We actually prefer it. - Now, out of all of her characteristics, okay? Winding down the questions about her personally here, what do you enjoy the most about her? Characteristic-wise. I like that she just like me. Like, that's like the female doboy. Like, that's why everybody loved us so much and they think we so perfect for each other. 'Cause she act like me, like she retarded. She act like me. - Do you feel like you're, I don't even know if this is the right phrase or not, like soulmates or twin flames or-- - Soulmates. - Do you feel like she's the female you just with a different body part? - Yes. Yes, we act like siblings. - Is that a good or bad thing? - That's a good thing. - Because you know, I've also heard that opposites attract people like the yin and yang in a relationship like polar opposites? - Yeah, that's true. But in this scenario, it's not like that. We just like, and that makes us, it's probably why we just overly locked in. - You feel like you two are one when you're together. - Yeah. And just to be fair, got to ask you this, on the opposite end of the spectrum, is there a characteristic of hers? You can't stand. Bugs you, bothers you. - You're crazy. - Get's under your skin, perhaps. - She's fucking crazy. - Could she say the same about you though? - Yeah. - Oh yeah. - Now is this something you've said to her before? - Everyday. - What's her response? - Stop saying that. - Okay, now what's-- - I wish I could tell you a story, but she'll probably get mad at me so I ain't gonna tell it. You're not shit. - Not yet, maybe the next interview, when you get the approval on that. - Yeah, so we'll be first. Start fucking with each other. I got a crazy funny story. Well, I'll wait. - Now what's the best advice you've received from her? Or most important thing you'll learn, being around her. So far. - Just stay and go back. Like she keep me focused. Like she made me want to do what I'm supposed to do. Like as a rapper, as an artist, as a man, as a just all around, just being a better person in general. So she just being on my ass mother, anything. But she always like tell me about myself. - Anything else here? I share a lot of questions about her. Is there anything else you wanna mention? - I love you. (upbeat music)
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The artist rejects being confined to a single music genre, emphasizing versatility and melodic abilities beyond traditional rap, highlighting the Apple commercial as a testament to their range.
The Apple commercial was a pivotal moment in their career, created through a disciplined, repetitive recording process, and personally meaningful due to the validation and financial reward it brought.
The artist maintains full ownership of their music and royalties, ensuring no label or third party profits from their work, while confirming the commercial used only their voice and not their song.
Summary:
The artist emphasizes their musical versatility, rejecting genre labels and showcasing their ability to excel in melodic and rap styles, exemplified by the Apple commercial. This commercial, which they initially dismissed as a low-priority task, became a career-defining moment through intense studio work and personal validation, leading to significant financial reward. The artist asserts full control over their music, stating that labels receive no royalties from their songs and only use their voice in commercial content.
They credit their team for helping secure the commercial opportunity, which was fully locked in and not a speculative or open submission. The experience also highlights their evolving artistic confidence and connection to fans, especially through the cultural impact of songs like "Mini Vance," which became a defining aesthetic. The artist shares insights into their signature ad-libs, which originated from influences like Fifth Boy and have been widely adopted, though he remains open to credit without hostility.
He notes that while many artists copy ad-libs, he avoids public disputes, valuing authenticity and growth. He reflects on the unpredictability of hit songs, emphasizing that success often relies on organic momentum, timing, and promotion strategies, not just song quality. He acknowledges that even his own songs sometimes fall short of expectations, and attributes this to the complex interplay of timing, audience reach, and platform algorithms.
The artist also discusses his deep respect for collaborations with artists like Future and Herb, who overcame personal struggles to create hits, and shares personal memories of working with deceased artists such as Jimmy Wapo and Little Lonnie, with unreleased tracks still being kept for emotional and respectful reasons. He expresses a romantic relationship with Lola Brooke, with a shared tattoo symbolizing their bond, and hints at future collaborations. Overall, the artist presents a transparent, grounded, and evolving career built on authenticity, resilience, and a deep connection to both his craft and community.
FAQs
I don't fit into one genre because I'm versatile and can create music across different styles, from melodic to rap. I show people I'm not just a rapper, but a multi-faceted artist.
It was a locked-in collaboration, not a submission-based process. My team worked on it, and it was specifically designed for me, not a random selection.
Yes, I received payment through master and publisher royalties, as well as an advance. There's no ongoing payout based on how many times the commercial plays.
Yes, I own the full rights to my songs. Apple only uses the commercial and doesn't get any royalties or ownership from the music.
I blended adlibs from friends like Fifth Boy and Bravo. 'Oh really' started as a casual phrase and grew into a signature, used across many collaborations.
No, I don't take it personally. I believe everyone is inspired by others, and I respect artists who acknowledge their influences openly.
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