DISTURBING Proof the Nephilim are Real

Sometime around 2002, a U.S. Army patrol supposedly disappeared in the mountains of Canada. But when a special forces team went looking for them, they didn't find the Army patrol. They found a cave full of shredded military gear, human bones, and allegedly something waiting inside. According to the story, a 12-15-foot giant with red hair and six fingers and two rows of teeth and a massive spear charged at the team. After taking out the giant, the body was allegedly wrapped in tarps and flown out to none other than Wright Patterson Air Force Base. Today, we call this story "The Giant of Cambahar." And here's where it gets really weird. Ancient Persians have told stories about giants in these very mountains for years. Alexander the Great became connected to giant legends in this same place. And the Bible describes giants with six fingers and six toes. And for more than a century, American newspapers reported giant skeletons being dug up and then mysteriously disappearing. So was Candahar just the perfect wartime legend or did those soldiers truly find something that people have been talking about for thousands of years? This is the story of the giants of Cambahar. So sit back, relax, and welcome to camp. What's up, dude? And welcome back to camp. My name is Mark Gagnon and thank you for joining me in my tent where every single week we explore the most interesting fascinating and controversial stories from all time forever. That is what I do here as I find these crazy rabbit holes and I just can't stop reading about it and I deep dive in me and a few of my friends do some research and we tell to you. This show I consider is like the sports center of conspiracy theories. I don't believe every theory. I don't believe every claim that we discuss, but I am fascinated by all of them nonetheless. And maybe just maybe there's a little thread of truth and all of them. 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But if you're interested in coming to hang with me and the rest of the squad and a beautiful desert that feels like you're on Mars, well, you can join Patreon and more info will be available. There. Now, one last thing. I want to say what's up to my pal, Kreestos. How are you, friend? What's going on, everybody? Kreestos, no time. Because we need to jump into the can of hard giants, all right? This is a fascinating story. This is one of those things that comes out of like, you know, 2000s, you know, military kind of like a rack intervention post 9/11. And there's a bunch of stories that come out of this period of time. Like, I don't know if you remember the Stargate of Iraq, where there was allegedly a portal that was opened up under like a ziggurat. Where like, you know, there's like these, you know, the Ishtar Gate is what people will call it. Where like, you know, they discovered that there was like this portal and aliens were coming out. And that's why America went into. There's all sorts of wild crazy stuff. And I'm fascinated by these claims. And this story feels a little bit like that. So before we can really get into this story, we need to figure out where does this come from. Because this legend of the giant of Candahart doesn't come from a leaked mission report or some type of official declassified file from the Pentagon. It seems I've developed through a series of anonymous military claims that appeared over more than a decade. The earliest version shows up in 2005. That November, a Nephilim researcher named Steve Quail appeared on Coast to Coast AM with George Norrie and told him about an email that he said he had received from a US Air Force officer. Now, according to Quail, the officer claimed that he had seen the body of this enormous humanoid while stationed in Afghanistan. Something roughly like twice the size of a normal human person weighing roughly around 1100 pounds with like this kind of bizarre strange odor. And according to that version, the body was flown to a secret military facility in Europe. And then in 2008, Quail went back on Coast to Coast with George Norrie. And this time, he brought on an anonymous military pilot with him. Now, the pilot claimed that while stationed in Afghanistan, he had personally helped transport the body of a giant that had been shot by the military. And he described it as roughly 12 feet tall, around 1100 pounds. And this time was six fingers on each hand. And this kind of like crude canvas-like shoes that he was wearing. And according to what the pilot said he was told, the body was eventually transferred back to a military base in Ohio, not Europe. And he never publicly identified the base by name, although later versions of the story would connect it to the infamous Wright Patterson base. But even here, we still don't have the full story that everyone knows today. The version that we're talking about doesn't really arrive until 2016 when a filmmaker and Nephilim researcher, L.A. Marzouli, released an interview with an anonymous man known only as Mr. K. This Mr. K wasn't claiming that he had simply seen a body afterwards. He claimed that he had been there, that he had been a part of the military team involved in this very encounter. And his testimony would become the foundation for essentially everything that people now picture when they hear the words, the giant of Kandahar. So the story didn't suddenly appear from one anonymous caller. It kind of formed in layers over time. So Steve Quail was circulating claims about a dead giant in Afghanistan as early as 2005. And then an anonymous pilot added the military transport story in 2008. And then in 2016, Mr. K steps forward, claiming that he could finally explain how the body even got there in the first place. And this really matters because Quail and Marzouli, they're not like cryptid hunters looking for like bigfoot or some undiscovered species. Their framework comes largely from the Bible. Yeah, from Genesis chapter six, where the sons of God breed with human women and create what they call nephilim. And when these Afghanistan claims emerged, they weren't looking at them as evidence of a new species. They were looking at them through a much older lens. What if the giants of the ancient world never completely disappeared? I mean, if we take the Bible as 100% truth, if the Bible was talking about giants, then certainly giants existed at some point. And perhaps these giants are still around. That is where the thread is coming from. Now, can any of these anonymous military claims be independently verified not right now? I mean, no, they haven't been. But by 2016, the pieces were in place that there was a giant that was in a cave and that the military had supposedly killed it and that someone had supposedly flown the body out of Afghanistan. And now for the first time, a man claiming to have been on the ground when it happened was ready to tell his version of the story. So what did Mr. K actually say? Well, according to the legend, sometime in 2002, during the opening phase of the war in Afghanistan, an American patrol was sent into a remote mountainous region near Kandahar and then all of them disappeared. No radio contact, no extraction, nothing. So of course, a special forces team is then sent into the mountains to figure out what happened to this group of soldiers. And eventually, they reach an isolated cave. And before they go inside, they feel like something is wrong. Because scattered around the entrance is abandoned military equipment, supposedly belonging to missing American soldiers. And then they start finding something more unsettling. They allegedly find bones. So when the team approaches the cave, this massive 12 to 15-foot tall humanoid being comes out. They describe it as having pale skin, covered in reddish hair, and they described it having six fingers on each hand, six toes on each foot, and two rows of teeth. And it had a massive weapon, a giant spear. Now, according to the soldiers who supposedly told the story, the creature immediately charged at them. And before the team can put it down, it drives the spear straight through one of the Americans, a soldier who was sometimes identified in later retelling simply as Dan. Everybody opens fire immediately, and after around 30 seconds of sustained fire, the giant finally collapses. But when the shooting stops, they're standing over something that, in their mind, it shouldn't exist. It's a body that is so massive that there is no way that these guys can carry it down the mountain themselves, which brings us to the part of the story that is maybe the most telling they call it the cleanup. According to the story, a Chinook heavy-lift helicopter comes in under a communications blackout. The body, supposedly weighing somewhere around like 1,300 pounds, gets wrapped in tarps, rigged beneath the aircraft, and then flown to Bagram airfield. it's then loaded into an unmarked transport aircraft and transported to an undisclosed location. But in some of the later tellings of the story, that undisclosed location eventually gets a name. It's the same one that we mentioned earlier, Wright, Patterson, Air Force Base, and Ohio. Now, that's a very important detail because Wright Patterson isn't just a random Air Force Base. It's the home of the National Air and Space Intelligence Center, which is the military's primary center for analyzing foreign air and space technology. Its predecessor was literally called the Foreign Technology Division, and these are the people that were tasked with studying unfamiliar aircraft and weapons and technology recovered or acquired from any of America's enemies. And if you've spent any time deep diving on any type of UFO lore, you've definitely heard of Wright Patterson because, for decades, Wright Patterson has been one of the central locations in the supposed cover-up of recovered craft and alien bodies from, specifically, Roswell and even later, Virginia in Brazil, all of which are famously said to have been hidden in the infamous Hangar 18. Now, does any of that stuff make the story more credible? I mean, not really. If anything, you could even argue the opposite because Wright Patterson is almost like too perfect of a destination. If you're building a modern military legend about the government recovering something that's like larger than life literally, that's the exact place that you would send it. It's like, look, they sent Roswell there. They're obviously going to send the giant that we discovered in Afghanistan there. So, that brings us to the part of the story that's actually maybe the most suspicious. Someone involves, supposedly, gets hit with, like, the strictest classifications and nondisclosure agreements and all that stuff. So, all the mission logs are altered or destroyed. All the surviving soldiers are told that what happened to them actually never happened. And the threat, according to the story, is pretty simple. I mean, hey, if you talk about this giant, we'll kill you. But underneath all the giant stuff, there is a piece of the story grounded in something absolutely real. In early 2002, the United States really was sending soldiers into the mountains of Afghanistan to search and clear out caves. In January of 2002, American forces went into the Zawar-Killy cave complex and they spent days searching and basically destroying the cave. That's the genius of this Kandahar giant story. The frame is entirely believable. I mean, the missing patrol, the team sent to find them, the cave search, all of that maps into real operations that are really happening. I mean, anytime there's, you know, patrolmen that are lost, special forces goes in to try to extract them. All of this in Iran just recently, that there was a downed Air Force pilot and they sent in special forces to go extract them off a mountain. But when you add a giant into the mix, people start obviously asking questions. So instead of trying to prove if the story is real, we can do something here that's maybe more useful. Ask yourself why this specific story, in this specific place, hit as hard as it did around like 330 BC. This guy named Alexander the Great, you probably heard of him. He was marching east through a region that the ancient world called Arakosia. And this is an old Persian province in the modern Kandahar region. And this is really the first weird connection to this whole story. Later sources describe a city called Alexandria in Arakosia. And they supposedly founded or refounded this city during Alexander's conquest. And for a long time, people have connected that city with ancient Kandahar. Now we can't say with certainty that Alexander the Great personally stood there and drew a line of the dirt and founded the city that became Kandahar. But we can say that Alexander marched through this exact region. And that later tradition permanently connected Arakosia and Kandahar with Alexander the Great. Fun fact, there's even a claim that the name Kandahar itself is a worn-down version of Exander, which is the Persian and Arabic version of Alexander, Kandahar, Exander. You can kind of hear the connection. And maybe it's not true. Scholars have proposed a bunch of different origins for that name, including a possible connection to the ancient kingdom of Kandahar, but even that isn't proven. So the Exander, Alexander connection is kind of like folk etymology. But the fact that people made the connection at all tells you something about how people generally perceive this region. So for centuries, this part of the world has been attached to the memory of Alexander the Great moving east into the unknown, conquering unknown lands. But Alexander didn't just leave behind history. He also left behind, I mean, entire mythology. It's called the Alexander Romance. This is a massive collection of legendary stories about Alexander that spread across the ancient and medieval world, eventually appearing in Greek and Latin and Persian and Arabic and Ethiopian and dozens of other traditions. And the farther these stories traveled, the less Alexander was just a Macedonian general, you know, kind of conquest in the world. And he started to look more like Odysseus, more like a character out of mythology. So the legendary version of Alexander, I mean, he journeys into impossible lands. And he encounters monstrous races and gigantic creatures, and he searches for the edges of the world. And in some later traditions of these legends, he reaches a mountain passage and constructs this massive barrier to imprison these terrifying people who eventually became identified as Gog and Magog. Yes, the very same Gog and Magog from the Bible, or as my Muslim friends would call it Yuz and Mejouj. So when someone tells you, like, you know, Alexander fought giants in the caves of Candahar, we're kind of connecting two separate things. There's no surviving battlefield report from Alexander saying, like, we reach Candahar and we kill giants. That's not, like, verified history. It's sort of the merging of Alexander's real campaign through the east, going through this region with legends and monster stories that accumulated around his mystique many centuries later. Hey guys, we're going to take a break real quick because this episode is sponsored by Brunt Workwear. 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The word could come to mean like demon, but it could also mean monster or ogre or in some translations literally a giant. And when Persian literature actually describes these things, the similarities are a little weird. So ancient Persian, Zor asterion legend around these giants. They describe massive humanoid beings covered in thick hair. They have huge teeth, some have monstrous hands or even claws or like abnormal bodies. And some of them eat humans. Some of the great Persian epic, the Shana-me. Heroes reportedly traveled into remote and dangerous landscapes to actually fight these beings. And one of the most famous stories is of the white Deev, a creature living in this almost inaccessible mountain stronghold surrounded by other creatures or demons until the hero Rossim goes in and kills it. Now here is an important distinction. I'm not saying ancient Persians wrote down the giant of Kandahar story 2,000 years ago. That's technically not true. There's no ancient text describing a 13 foot tall red haired creature with six fingers standing outside a cave near Kandahar. But there is something fascinating happening right here because centuries before American soldiers supposedly encountered a gigantic man eating giant in the mountains of Afghanistan, the cultures surrounding this exact part of the world, this exact region are already telling stories about gigantic, hairy, man eating giant monsters living on the outskirts of civilization. And then Alexander comes through, Alexander himself becomes surrounded by these same stories about giants and monstrous races and then eventually all of these traditions get layered onto top of the same exact landscape. So by the time the giant of Kandahar's story appears in the 21st century on coast to coast I am, it doesn't arrive just in a vacuum. It lands on top of more than 2,000 years of monster and giant mythology about this exact place. And then Christianity gives the creature a completely different name. Christianity calls it the Nephilim. Now, like I mentioned earlier, Genesis obviously talks about the sons of God coming down and mating with human women and creating the Nephilim, which many people interpret as giants. But that's not the only place. Because in 2 Samuel 21, Israel fights a group of giant warriors connected to Rafa and the Philistine city of Gath, the same city associated with Goliath, the same Goliath that fights with David. The passage names giants like Ishbi Benab and Saf, but there's one giant who's only described by his physical features. And the verse says verbatim. And there was yet a battle in Gath where there was a man of great stature that had on every hand six fingers and on every foot six toes, four and 20 in number, and he also was born to the giant. And then even in 1 Chronicles chapter 20 verse six, the passage names the giants of Sapai and Lami who actually is the brother of Goliath. But the giant with six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot shows up again in the exact same way only as a description, which is weird because it's almost the exact same detail that we find in the Candahar story, six fingers and six toes. But technically, he's not called a Nephilim. And this is where modern Nephilim lore starts blending with different biblical traditions. So you have the Nephilim of Genesis and in the book of Numbers. And then you have the Anachim, descendants of Anach, including Ahiman, Shashai and Talmai and Hebron. And then the Raphaim giants of Gath, including Goliath, Ishbi Benab, Saf, Lami, and that unnamed six fingered six-toed warrior thing. So the Candahar giant is kind of a collage. The Nephilim gives the identity and the rooting that this is a thing that happened because of sort of something going wrong within God's law, the sons of man breeding with human women. And then the giants of Gath give these six fingers in the six toes. And then later giant folklore gives red hair and teeth. And then the Persian divestories give the giant monster lurking in the mountains of Candahar. So either all these traditions preserve pieces of the same ancient phenomena or somebody knew exactly which pieces to stitch together to create the perfect war story. So if giants are real and the military really hauled one out of Afghanistan, well, then the next question is like, well, where's the giant? Where's the giant right now? And this is where the Candahar story plugs into a much older American mystery. Because long before anyone was talking about the giant of Candahar, newspapers across the United States were reporting the discovery of giant human skeleton. Perhaps the earliest most notable story is an 1897. The New York Times ran a story out of Maple Creek, Wisconsin, claiming a burial mound had been open containing the skeleton of a man measuring more than nine feet tall. But not only that, he had this enormous skull and copper artifacts buried beside him. But other newspapers published similar stories throughout the 19th and 20th century. I mean, you see stories of seven foot skeletons, eight foot skeletons, massive skull, strange teeth, bones pulled from ancient burial mounds. And sometimes the story ends exactly where you would expect. The remains were sent away. They were put in a museum or a university or sent to an institution to be studied further. And then decades later, no one seems to know where they went. Now, the newspaper report isn't the same thing as having the bones sitting like on the table right here. Some of those reports absolutely could have been exaggerated or mismeasured or just been straight up hoaxes. But here's where the story gets really weird because it wasn't only newspapers reporting these unusually large skeletons. The Smithsonian's own 19th century archaeological work also contained them. In the 1880s, an organization associated with the Smithsonian called the Bureau of Ethnology. They launched a massive investigation of the ancient burial mound spread across the Eastern United States. And in one of the published reports, there are several descriptions of unusually large human remains. In multiple mounds, the team recorded unusually large skeletons measuring more than seven feet tall. So yeah, by today's standards, that doesn't seem like an insanely impossible thing, especially when you just watch the NBA. You're like, yeah, there's like three guys in the court right now that are taller than seven feet. But when you're talking about a civilization that lived centuries ago, didn't have the same resources available that we do now, the same access to nutrition or protein, it does raise some questions. But the most famous case came from a mound in West Virginia. Deep inside a timber burial vault, investigators discovered a skeleton that they described as being unusually large size and measured to be around seven feet, six inches and 19 inches between the shoulder sockets. Now, the burial itself was amazing. The body had been apparently wrapped in bark and there were six heavy copper bracelets on each wrist, a copper ornament on the chest, plates of mica, hematite tools, and multiple black flint spearheads, including three plates directly in each hand. Now, obviously, seven foot six is not, you know, the 13 foot monster from Kandahar, but there's still a remarkable discovery to find this massive human being, specifically for the time. And more importantly, it means something that gets lost in the whole story and it kind of gets reduced to like, oh, people on the internet are inventing giant skeletons. They're not. I mean, sometimes they are, but not always, because people have been reporting these things for over a century and federal researchers were genuinely excavating thousands of ancient burials across the country. I mean, the Smithsonian today acknowledges that its collection contains more than 30,000 sets of human remains. Roughly half of them are Native American. And that's essentially the historical basis for like, the Smithsonian has giants like hidden in their vaults conspiracy. The idea says that whenever unusually large remains appear, the Smithsonian quietly collects them, removes them from public view, and eventually they get destroyed or they bury the evidence in their vaults because giants for them don't fit the acceptance story of North American history. Now, can we prove that theory? Now, there's no verified order saying like, hey, destroy all the giant skeletons. There's no inventory showing like, hey, here's the secret warehouse filled with nine foot humans. But the weird thing with this part of the story isn't that the whole thing's fabricated. The weird part is that there really was an enormous 19th century mound excavation program. There really were human remains that were being collected and there were old reports of skeletons exceeding seven feet. I mean, going back hundreds or even thousands of years, which is very unusual. And there really are newspaper archives filled with claims of even larger ones that the New York Times of all publications ran. But the question of what happened to every individual set of bones in these stories is way harder to answer. I mean, you have thousands upon thousands of human remains passing through institutional collections and you have modern military legend where another impossible body is supposedly recovered and then never heard from again. That's the connection Candahar believers make because the giant of Candahar for them isn't the beginning of the cover up. It's just the latest version of the cover up. It's just the latest giant to disappear into this archive that gets buried up. And the last piece of this story is the man who supposedly watched all of it happen. So remember, the strongest version of the Candahar giant legend leans on a small number of alleged insiders. Mr. K plus various unnamed contractors and operators whose testimony supposedly brought the 2002 event into public view over the following years. The Department of Defense position, I mean, they just say it never happened. It's just flat denial. There's no record, no casualty, no engagement, matching that description in Candahar province in that timeframe. Now, people who believe in this story, they say, yeah, of course the military in the Department of Defense or Department of War, like they're gonna deny it because that's what they do. And that's what compartmentalization is for. Modern militaries do run programs that are so tightly walled off that, you know, people that are too desolate have no idea what the other person's working on. So the official record showing nothing is exactly what a real cover up and a total fabrication would both look like. It's a little bit of like a Kafka trap, you know? It's like, hey, military, you got giants and they're like, no, and it's like, that's what the military with giants would say. And so that's, unfortunately, the honest, frustrating heart of the whole story that the denial from the government doesn't settle anything and neither does the testimony. I mean, in this case, like on one hand, you have a handful of anonymous claims about this crazy, crazy story. And then you have a government that says nothing ever happened and with no physical object anywhere in the middle, it's kind of hard to break the tie. I mean, you compare this story with, you know, a case like the recent government UAP file release where you can actually pull up a document on a federal website and then just read it yourself. The Kandahar giant story doesn't really have anything like that. It has never produced a single artifact that you can independently examine anywhere. So when you strip it down, here's basically what you're left with. Every piece surrounding the giant of Kandahar has something real underneath it, right? Like the mountains are real, the caves are real. The ancient giant traditions are real. The newspaper reports of giants are real. The Smithsonian excavations are real and the military operations in Afghanistan were obviously very real. Now the question is whether somewhere inside of all of this, the giant is real too. Because that's the one piece that we can't know for certain and it is the most interesting piece. So maybe the soldiers really did encounter something in these mountains that shouldn't have existed. And what happened afterwards was exactly what people claim. Like hey, the body was wrapped up, flown out, buried somewhere inside the military system, to be seen again. Or maybe somebody took the leave in the cave story and the giants of the Bible and the monster stories around the Alexander the Great Legend and the lost skeletons of these American newspapers and the very real secrecy and violence of the war in Afghanistan. And of course, I mean, the total secrecy of the US government in general and stitched them into a perfect story. And that my friends is the story of the giants of Kandahar. I mean, this is one of those I remember reading about. Again, I brought up the the rock stargate earlier. It's like on the one hand so fun. Like if I saw a movie about this, how have they made a movie about this? There's no way. I feel like I would have seen it. I'll look into it. But if they did, it's like the perfect movie. It's like, hey, we're going here to like fight the enemy and then I'll suddenly discover a way worse enemy, a way more terrifying enemy. Also, I feel bad for the giant hot tick. He was just in his cave doing nothing for thousands of years alone, ostensibly. No one else around. He's the last of his race still living in these mountains where he's inhabited them. He's indigenous to these mountains. Like as a vocal liberal ally of the indigenous peoples, he is the indigenous that's living in a cave, mining his own business, doing what he does. All of a sudden these patrol guys show up. He eats them. One, he's hungry. Two, they're trying to probably attack them. And then more special forces got show up. And he's like, oh my goodness, I got to take these guys out too. Valley and Lee tries to kill one of the spear and then they kill him. After 30 seconds of gunfire, mind you. I mean, he was taking some spray. So if this giant is real, justice for the giant of Candahar, let's get that slogan going. This guy is completely misunderstood. Imagine a guy like Wendy, just being shot at. That's what I'm saying. Like that's the thing. If Wendy existed in Persia in like 500, he would be a giant. I mean, he's a giant now. Yeah. So like that part is not crazy to me. Now, as far as like the, you know, remains that were actually discovered in America, like seven foot six is tall, very tall, but not impossible. And people are like, yeah, the average has gone up. I get it. But like, like LeBron James is very tall. Wembee super tall. Like Wembee probably had a good dive. But think about how many like American basketball players that grew up like just eating like ego waffles and gummy bears all day and still grew to be like seven foot eight. Probably a sum of them. Bam out of bio. How tall is he? He's seven, one, seven, one. Like where'd he grow up? I know he went to Kansas for college. I don't know what his home life was like, but I can't imagine he's eating like, you know, just raw protein every single day from the ages of like two to 15. You know what I mean? Like correction. Bam out of bio six, nine. Dang, dude, I got short. I got short, dude. Also, there's a adventure documentary called colossal fallen angels and the giant of Ken the har. 2025. Fine. I'll watch it on the Roku channel. All right. I'll check it out. Now, I'm just like, okay. So they've discovered remains. The remains are pretty tall. Again, not for sure, giants, but like they're tall. That's really cool. But it's like sick. I love that. But it's not like super compelling me that they're full on giants. Now, you get into the biblical account with the Nephilim as a Christian. I'm like, all right. There's something going on. Maybe maybe it's a metaphor. Maybe that's like, you know, a flower interpretation is an ancient text that kind of gets translated over time and the context is sort of lost. Maybe this is sort of a symbolic thing. I don't know exactly. But I'm like, as far as my ranking of this, I'm like, "Kenhar giants" is an all-time story, an amazing legend. But it's difficult for me to fully substantiate, you know, without seeing any type of evidence or even getting some type of first-hand account from someone, even if it's anonymous about what happened, you know. If I could actually talk to someone and be like, "What's going on? Show me a credential." Then I'd be a little bit more compelled. But for now, I want it to be true. But my skepticism is getting the best of it. Also, they only have one extra finger than us. That's fine. One extra toe. Yeah, you're like, "Dude, that's giant." Having an extra finger. Which I've seen some people that actually have that. But it's not useful. No, it is. Oh, really? I saw a guy recently posted on Reddit where he's like, "Yeah, I have six fingers." The greatest place for all the truth in the world. Reddit. Awesome, right? I mean, I'm assuming it's true. I mean, he did like a whole Q&A. This is like years ago, like, pre-AI. And he had another appendage that was like functional. Which is kind of sick. Maybe annoying because like gloves don't work. And like, there's certain things where you're like, "These scissors are like just so annoying." But kind of cool if you can just like, be like, "Yeah, check it out." People would think you're AI in every picture they take. You should be a great piano player. You would think, right? Yeah. Get it to work. Now, that's just my take on Canar. What do you think, Reasters? Are you compelled? Are you fully a believer of the giants of Canar? I think the fact that it's very conservative. The number of fingers, only two rows of teeth, only seven foot six, it's kind of believable. Keep in mind, that's a biblical account as well. So you're leaning on something there that the dude listening is like, as a Christian, you know what I mean? You kind of got to roll with it. Yeah. So I don't know. I'm like, if, let me say, maybe at some point, giants are possible. Maybe. But what was discovered in Canar and allegedly flown to Wright Patterson Air Force Base, I'm gonna say it was not a giant until I see more evidence. That's just my take. What do you think, dude? Comment below. Please, I would love to know your thoughts. If you if you were on this operation, I'm sorry for denying your truth. But please, I mean, let me know. Shoot me a DM on Instagram, write to me, write me an email or just comment below YouTube Spotify. I read all the comments. Even if I don't get back to you, someone else will and will be productive for the conversation. Just be nice about it. Okay. And if there's anything about the story of this legend that I miss, please let me know. Like, drop a comment. Maybe I'm completely missing the points. And if that's the case, I will absolutely redo this episode with more factual information. If you can supply it, I am not immune to the truth. 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