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Disembodiment | Banu Bargu on Death Acts, Dignity, and Refusal

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Disembodiment | Banu Bargu on Death Acts, Dignity, and Refusal

The transcript features a podcast episode that mixes commercial advertisements with a philosophical discussion of Ivan Ilyin's work on evil and coercion. The host begins by promoting a hearing check service and then addresses the insertion of political ads, advising listeners to skip them or subscribe to ad-free versions of the show. The core of the episode is a reading of Chapter Seven of Ilyin's book, which examines physical coercion and suppression as methods of influence. The analysis distinguishes between legitimate punishment for correction (e.g., spanking a child or boot camp discipline) and tyrannical violence that serves selfish interests. The host connects these ideas to Plato's Republic, arguing that inner freedom must be actively cultivated through self-discipline and loving assistance, not coercion. He criticizes modern prison systems for nonviolent crimes, advocating for alternatives like house arrest or forced community service. The discussion also explores the concept of autonomy versus negative freedom, warning against manipulation by media and fantasies. The host references historical figures like Ronald Reagan and Thomas Jefferson to highlight cultural differences in understanding freedom. Despite interruptions by a second ad for fiber broadband, the philosophical thread continues, emphasizing the need for determined minorities to guide spiritual and moral development in society.

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You can subscribe through Substack, which is my preferred one because with both of those you get an RSS feed, only Patreon and only Substack give you an RSS feed. There's also links to my website, Gumroad and Subscribe Star, where you will get the audio files that you can download and listen to or you can stream in most cases through those locations as well. So if you want to avoid the ads, consider supporting the show. If not, just know none of these ads get any endorsement from me, skip by them, do what you need to do. I appreciate all of you head on over to pecanjohniceshow.com. You can get the show early and add free over there if not. Here's the show. I want to welcome everyone back to our reading of Honor Resistency Evil by Forest by Ivan Eline. I think this is episode number nine, Dr. Johnson. How are you doing? I think the episode with Thomas went extremely well. For those of you who haven't seen it or listened to it, we have completely contrasting personality. I think that actually works. It's dialectical. I know there's been a lot of positive comments about it. He's a great guy. He's a very different, just a general persona. It's so different for me that I like how it goes. We'll be doing it again soon too. Yeah. That's episode 1377 of my podcast, the pecanjohniceshow for those who just tune in to see the episodes that Dr. Johnson and I do with readings. So yeah, that went well. A lot of good comments. It just went public yesterday. So I'm sure there's going to be more comments. Like I said, we're going to be doing it again soon. So everybody buckle up. This is going to be a lot of fun. All right. We are picking up on chapter seven here about power and evil. And I will I'll do the first paragraph and then you can go back over the words here that I am not going to pronounce. Oh, yeah, yeah. If anything in brackets, that's for me. You don't have to go through it. Okay. Apparently, physical coercion and suppression as a means of influence have three aspects of that may seem irrational. First, an appeal to human will is such, apart from evidence and love. Second, an influence on another's will, regardless of its consent and perhaps even contrary to it. And third, an influence on another's will through the body of the one being coerced. Indeed, all three aspects are inherent in this method of influence and not separately, but in a mutually fused manner. Physical coercion and suppression appeal not to reason and love, but act upon the body of the one being coerced, contrary to their consent. It is precisely this combination of all three features that often produces an impression on sentimental souls that evokes indignation, protest and a rejection of this outrageous violence. I include, once in a while, the original Russian for what I think might be controversial words. That can be translated in a million different ways. Most mostly for our Russian speakers who I guarantee you are better at this than I am. But at this point in the story, he's putting it very nicely here, but acting on the body of the one being coerced, contrary to their consent, that's exactly the issue. And it is that combination that creates, not just in the mungentestoyans, but even today, people have gotten so soft that even spanking is considered outrageous in some circles. I guarantee you if there is a study out there between how kids who are spanked and those who weren't turned out, we know what the result is going to be. Absolutely not what the result is going to be. I was spanked, I remember it vaguely. My kids were spanked. But as I said before, you only do that to correct their behavior, not because you're irritated. And that's the issue for Aristotle's political science. That's the difference between a tyrant and a monarch. There was between an oligarch and an aristocrat. The main difference is that the one serves the common good and the other serves their own interests. An oligarchy that we live under in the US is secretive and they have no problem with using violence. They also have no problem with using pacifists and they don't like a war, which they did in Vietnam. pacifism got a new lease on life during Vietnam because the big issue was draft of ferns. I think we don't have that anymore. Although there's always talk about it. And then these are some of the same people who want females in combat roles, but they have a huge problem with physical violence as a matter of discipline. Well, it just gets more and more complicated as time goes on. Using the word influence here is a very nice diplomatic way of talking about it. We're forcing someone to do something using violence for their own good. However, physical violence, while truly encompassing all three of these elements, does not necessarily become an evil act. This is its essential difference from violence and it is precisely to this extent and only to this extent that is a subject to spiritual and moral acceptance. Indeed, human spirituality consists in the fact that he himself autonomously seeks desires and has in mind objective perfection, educating himself to this vision and creativity. It is precisely in this nature and in this breath that man's inner freedom is sacred and its external manifestations inviolable. It is precisely in this direction that the focus of the spiritual eye on perfection sanctifies the power of inner freedom and imbues a person's external actions with the significance of a spiritual event. It is precisely the power of inner freedom that shapes the personality of a spiritually perceptive person and then their external behavior requires no suppression and tolerates no coercion. In the earlier platonic dialogues you have this issue coming up and it sounds very much counterintuitive at first and Socrates, I mean I'm paraphrasing obviously Socrates says a rational man wants and seeks out punishment for his evil deeds because he wants to improve. It's in his interest that he gets sent to prison or whipped or whatever whatever or what was the case. This is a part of his own improvement. So you know this is and you know at more acceptance this is you know this is the entire issue here and a man you know again using the platonic idea man can't really in this especially today in this world cannot expect to be rational and lead both a rational and spiritual life without being punished especially as a young man. Not necessarily because you're you'll whip at 19 you know but something like you know boot camp you know always starting off at the bottom being told that you're dispensable. The reason why I wouldn't want to be yelling again for anything that's a part of being and you should seek that out you should want that you should enjoy that and of course you had many heateness fighting playtale on that issue in some of the earlier dialogues so when someone is being punished there's only one person that's benefiting and that's the one who is being punished. 99 Activation for you applies available only with gomo mobile for full-tees and seas see gomo.ai. Notice the change in your hearing well then get a hearing check from specs avers. Oh not sure where to start well we're very flexible book one online on the phone on your launch break on Saturdays on the same day if you're lucky. Oh you only miss the odd word but what are the odd words you're missing are nice ones like love you are important ones like doc. Oh to expensive is it hmm all right we like you we'll do it for nothing for free hearing checks should have gone to specs avers gomo is going fiber broadband you heard that right just 29.99 a month for life Ireland only price for life fiber broadband no price hikes no price spikes just 29.99 a month for life but this offer won't be around forever so go to gomo.ai and lock in 29.99 a month for life today subject to availability 30-day contract 49.99 activation fee applies available only with gomo mobile for full-tees and seas see gomo.ai more over as long as the power of spiritual volitional self-governances intact within a person an error invisible content requires neither suppression nor coercion but rather solitary or collaborative correction as long as the volitional focus of the eye on perfection is intact within a person the weakness of autonomous self-determination requires neither suppression nor coercion but loving assistance in the efforts of self-development this is why I'm of the opinion that nonviolent crimes should never be punished with prison especially you know state prison here in the US you know the the hardcore stuff why I think things like house arrest make the most sense if anything you know what was a medieval conception of criminal law well mostly we relied on fines from minor crimes you had to work for the guy to make up for it if you couldn't you know you're talking about it down an individual to talk about families family had to cough up this kind of money or for serious crimes you're executed we talked about this with salt and eats and there wasn't a prison system in the Russia Empire until the left forced it on them in the very late 19th century and even then it was never quite a penal system like we have that we have today here he's talking about a weak world a weak world man and this again it's it's platonic connection here is clear you know play do what up sorry hey go was a playtinus to some extent um I've always been play do when I read play do my whole world change when I was 17 whenever it was um talking like this that free will is something that has to be fought for you're born only with the potential for freedom normally we just give into whatever passion is the strongest you know hunger sexual whatever it is that's irrational no society can function that way so that goes right back to it's a platonic conception here so weak will person who knows what's right and and just can't do it violence would be completely inappropriate there prison actually would be counterproductive because my god you know if they weren't if they were in violent before they'll be violent now you know I always thought with people like I think I said this before I remember uh Bernie made off he should have been forced to teach economics and of course they should take all this money you know pay people's uh mortgage is off whatever it is but to be teaching you know this is what I did not that you should do it but this is how the system works how it should work now it shouldn't work he obviously was a highly intelligent person saying you're sitting at box over there doesn't make any sense the only time that prison matters and works is if you have as it says here as if you have someone who really wants to change you know drug addicts have to go through withdrawal and prison which I can't imagine it's got to be the worst thing um drugs are available in prison obviously but takes a lot of time and you get to go into debt and there's all these terrible things that can happen to and it functions very much as a mental ward I mean there's there's mental health parts of prisons um which from what I've heard are terrifying um but you know the the medication there's always you know med calls and everything else most of these guys do have all of these only kind of problems how many of them are just weak willed and who went along with somebody else that person might not benefit from violent um the loving assistance in their efforts of self development loving in this case means non-violence loving in in this case means you know building them up using methods um to encourage them to have a backbone and especially for white males that's almost a crisis today well black males no problem they have self esteemed way beyond their their their contribution to society white males as we know with the suicide rate they have how are immensely depressed or taught to hate themselves do hate themselves and so many of them uh need this kind of treatment um because it's just a matter of weakness and brainwashing you know this is what we do we take someone who is brainwashed send me brainwashed and we slowly bring them out of it here's what's going on here here's the truth of the matter you start off with something small and then you get bigger and bigger and bigger you know you can't just talk about the Holocaust didn't happen you know the first day but you slowly bring them out of it that's what he's talking about here but he's also talking about the will of the person who's coming out of it you know it's a it's a good one but just can't stop giving in to its drawings you know i i'll say this here now and i've said it before um satan is incapable of creating anything so he can only manipulate that which has already been created one of the ways he does this is through fantasy our fantasy it could be you know i'm going to be a billionaire i'm gonna get the hot girl i'm gonna go whatever it is and even if they get it it's never as good as i think it's gonna be because their fantasies are so ridiculous and that's what motivates people who don't understand how to control their passions they're using reason in the completely incorrect way satan functions through giving an image to us is that actually it's right in in Plato's public. On the public's Republic, it has the captive people who are sitting there with a fire behind them and almost like puppets being in the background. That's their reality. They've never seen the sun, they've never seen anything like that. And even they get very philosophical about it all. It's not real, but they don't know that. The person goes out and sees the sun for the first time and is terrified by it. It's so bright, and then he goes back, he tells people about it, what are they going to say? You're out of your mind. It doesn't exist. It's wrong with you. That's straight out of the Republic. That images are used by demonic forces. In the playlist case, it was just talking about oligarchs, but images, fantasies are used to motivate people. These fantasies are totally a product of their imagination. They don't necessarily get them, but even if they do, it's never anything what they thought it would be. In the meantime, they become a rotten person because they've done anything. The grass is always greener on the other side. You realize when it's over, I probably shouldn't have done this. Fandacies are just that. This is how Satan functions, dealing with human beings. Today, he has a news media. He has a beyond their conception centuries ago, anyone's conception centuries ago to create a whole brand new set of images that's now systematized. In other words, you have what would have been a very good person, a very good man who is just used to all this, does not want to leave it. No one wants to leave the cave. Life is, no one wants to be the first one to say, "Okay, I'm screwed, you guys. It's too costly." I know historians that I have convinced of the myth of the so-called Holocaust of the Jews. That sacred event that only affected the Jews. But when they go and they teach, or they never never talk like it, they have to have a double mind, they have to have cognitive dissonance there. They just cost too damn much. But this is our job. Exactly what he's talking about here. Loving assistance in the efforts of self-development. We know that there are certain people we're never going to be able to reach. Not in a billion years. Okay, let them go. But always remember, history is made by determined and fanatical minorities, not masses of people. However, if a person uses their freedom for evil deeds, abusing their freedom and thereby distorting their spirituality, then their personality finds itself in a profound internal split. On the one hand, their freedom potentially remains undiminished, somewhere in its unfulfilled depths. It retains the ability to turn its eye towards spiritual perfection and embark on the path of self-restraint and self-governance. And only specific thought, testifying to the presence of absolute villainy can force one to completely disregard this possibility. On the other hand, it turns out that the powers of their soul are actually consumed by wicked aspirations. Their spiritual eyes closed or blinded. Their passions and actions breathe hostility and disunity. It was a big controversy. I don't know what year it was when Ronald Reagan said that there is no word for freedom in Russia. And I think he got, you know, properly blasted for it by the by the Democrat. Most common word that comes up is of course, "Faborda." That's what, you know, general freedom. Of "Tonamiya" it actually comes from, you know, some version of autonomy. That's normally, it can be applied to individuals, but mostly its countries and regions. Volnostia is a taking liberties. Sometimes it's a negative thing. You're doing things you shouldn't. You're taking liberties in a negative way. It's a vistamus. It's another one. That means independence. Normally, these other words are used for groups of people, not individuals. So, when you come across, so we have freedom and autonomy, which people confuse all the time, Russian has the one main word. And if you use another word, you have to explain why you're using it. Because they're not often used when you're talking about individuals. Remember, the way we talk about freedom is a purely negative concept. And Hagel talks about this at great length. It's simply a negation. We can do what we please and have no one tell us, tell us no. That's all it is. That's what 95% of the people think freedom is. However, autonomy is a very different story. That's the free will. That's the will. It takes a lot of work to bring out. That's the will that is not being manipulated or harmed either from our internal passions or external forces. Thomas Jefferson and many other, especially the anti-federalists, talk about the human as the core of any Republican system. Why? Because the human had enough, he had enough land to function. He wasn't a huge landowner, but he wasn't destitute. He didn't work for anybody. Jefferson really said, if you work for somebody else, I'm not sure how you can really be a free man. That's the, that's the economic version of autonomy. You generally speaking don't answer to anybody. Or you don't have to answer to anybody. However, you do live in a society and the representatives were supposed to come from this group, fairly small group of them, rotating people every two years. In Congress, that's the best, in the lower house, of course. That's the best chance anyone ever has for or representation. So autonomy and humanry, these are very similar, very similar ideas. You know, in the worst part is when people, especially women tend to this, believe something, usually something liberal, who, because it is fashionable to do so. And we see this in the immigrant, the immigration rallies, pro-immigration rallies in Europe are almost exclusively female, almost, almost. And Antifa, as I said many times before in America, is about 60% female, maybe more now. I know this from street experience. And that's important to bring up anyone. At Spek's Avers, our two-for-one glasses offer gives you amazing value and choice. By one pair of seeing everyday things like kettles, sausages, dishwashers, and hats, etc. And you can also get a pair of sunglasses for seeing things like the peach. Sorry, must have dropped off there. Right, here we go. By one pair of everyday glasses at the lower 95 euro and get some prescription sunglasses for your second pair with standard single-vision lenses to the same prescription, terms and conditions apply, see and store for details for play. They realize not their spirituality, but rather their anti-spirituality and their inherent power of loving your acceptance is distorted and destructive. Logic does not govern her will, loves does not saturate him. He lives and acts not as a spiritually free master of his soul and his behavior, but as a helpless slave to his evil desires and mental mechanisms. He becomes neither what he is potentially called to be nor can he become what he is in her unrealized inmost being. His personality consists of a deadening spirit and intensely living anti-spirituality from fading love, cold, indifferent cynicism, and burning anger. I can't help but think of addiction when I read this paragraph. When I translate the parts of it, that's the first thing that popped into my head. I grew up with it. Thank God I never fell into it. Thank God Almighty. But I grew up with it. And the alcoholic, when he's justifying himself, becomes a genius. The mental gymnastics are almost admirable. They come up with to justify their behavior. They're masters at deflection. Certainly masters at deflection. And you do a two kind of thing. I question whether or not the intervention is really a positive thing because all it does is make them make them defensive. But searching, you know, whether it be a fantasy that you can't get rid of or an addiction, there's lots of addictions out there. A pornography is one of the worst and most destructive ones. I tell you, anyone who out there who's addicted to pornography, listen to me. I never got into it. Thank God Almighty in heaven. One of the reason is because I read about the business. Read about what they do to those girls. There are former directors, former financiers who have written books. I came across the pink cross foundation when it used to rest you. But no one does this voluntarily. Rescue, usually females, and on the program and the tortures. They hate what they do. They are physically broken. Most of them can't have sex anymore. Most of them can't have kids. You know, the person who ran the pink cross foundation once, porn actress briefly, and she said more than once, I saw the whole colon laying on the ground. Of course, you had to go to the ER, but this is what happened when you read about this industry and what they do. In fact, these Jews don't give a damn. They do to these otherwise beautiful 18-year-olds. Well, you will have a very tough time watching pornography ever again. It does that it's short circuits to fantasy. You want to believe that they're into this kind of thing. Oh, I'm just a sexual person. It's all lies. When Bella Donna broke down on Diane Sawyer, she wasn't supposed to, but she did. Explaining what they make us do. It broke the fantasy that most men have. Whether it really worked or not, I don't know, but that was part of her. The fact that, I said before, Jameson hates the porn consumer, or especially people who watch her dance. I hate you because there's a market for this. No one there. So these kind of things are part of the means of breaking the connection to fantasy, breaking the connection to addiction. It's just a very powerful example. It's destroying manhood in this country right now. And also any other kind of addiction where this is all you really care about. Drug addicts and alcoholics are true. Not just people who like to drink a lot. I'm not talking about that. Talking about people who really kind of have to. This is all they think about 24 hours a day. And they all destroy whatever they have to destroy to make sure that they get access to whatever they want. And that's to a great extent in Germany where he wrote in Russia. Not Russia did end up having something like this later. This is written in, well, he's a real work. This is like in 25. His sexual revolution was imposed on Russia at this point. And because of the insanity, easy divorce, subortion, all that, they had to stop it. So it's a Soviets have to stop it. It is too radical. Then you realize how seriously bad it is. What we take for granted. So it's very important. Addiction occurs to otherwise decent and intelligent people. And it turns them into something that they're not. Sometimes I wonder about those who make their profession addiction counselors. I roll my eyes a lot with them. But just because of my experience in the matter. But none of them. No matter how intelligent they might be, how much money they might have. Logic doesn't govern any aspect of their will. There is no love. Whatever love there is is this torrent destructive as he says. He is a materialist. Whether he wants to be or not, a helpless slave to evil desires and mental mechanisms. That is the victory for demons. Demons love that. Meaning someone who had the potential of free will, which his spirit has to be. It can't be material. Or else it wouldn't be free. So it's the spiritual element and blocking it. Destroying it. That is how they give the finger to God all the time. And it's in a liberal society. That's what you're going to get. And we are saturated with it in this country. So many of you listening know exactly what I'm talking about. It is precisely the dual nature of his personality that poses the task of coercion to other spiritually healthy people. It is already clear that anyone who resists such activity by such a person is fighting not the spirit, but an anti-spirituality and is opposing not love, but shameless malice. Their energy is directed not against a villain's unrealized, deadening, innermost self, but against the realizing element that possesses the soul and saturates their external actions. From the very beginning it is undeniable that the malicious persons appealed to water, not only does not preclude a parallel appeal to their self-evidence and love, but on the contrary often makes it possible for the first time. For the malice-filled person, until he curbs his obsession with his will, is incapable of heating a persuasive voice and the rays of someone else's love only blind and irritate his frenzy. I note here for those of you who are listening and can't see it, I don't know what the reference to water, you know, the easiest word, "vogue" you in this case, "vogue" it normally. I triple-checked it. I don't know what he's talking about. He never mentions it again. I'm missing something, so the appeal to water, I can't translate it any other way, and I don't know what he means. But this paragraph is just a continuation of what we've been talking about. The addict who is forced to stop in the beginning is only being a malice-filled person, and he even used the word obsession. But those who are addicted, obsessed, they are incapable of heating the persuasive voice, as he says here. And even worse, that any love, like something like saying intervention, something like that, just makes them angry or angry. So it's coercion necessary here. I think this is a person by person case, but one of the good things about going to prison is that generally speaking, your normal guy can't get drugs there. Some guys can, but generally speaking, they can't get drugs there. They have to detox. And that might be the one real positive thing that comes out of their experience. That you're nonviolent, that's nonviolent drug addict, it's caught with some on them. You have to detox in prison. That's got to be horrible, especially with something like everyone. That's got to be horrible, but it's what we would call tough love here. That would simply be blatant physical coercion, leading to your suffering, but with a proper end in mind. He cannot curb his obsession with his passions without the assistance of someone else's compulsion and restraint. The more complete the villainous soul in its irrationality, the weaker are those spiritual organs capable of heating spiritual vision and being moved by love. For the passions that overwhelm it in their intensity and ceaseless exhaustion, consume precisely those very powers and faculties of the soul in whose transformed and ennobled action, love, and self-evident truth flourish. The villain could love, if he had not channeled the entire force of love into the pleasurable flow of cynical, hateful torment. The villain could see God in the heavens, the power of goodness and conscience, the beauty of the earth and the freedom of man. If all his powers of vision had not been lost in evil cunning and it calculated twisting intrigue, he who stops his eruption of ballast, whoever cuts off this outward flowing stream, faces the soul in a state of external impasse, a fruitless accumulation of internal energy and its inevitable burnout in restless and gnawing suffering. Well, this is some excellent prose here. This is most certainly not what you especially older machine translations would come up with. He's referring to a decent man. Thank you. to a man who otherwise would be a benefit to society. The man who is dimly aware that it doesn't have to be like this, he doesn't think he has any choice. This is the man who has to shoot a pair of one not to get high because he can't get high anymore, but just so he doesn't go into an awful detox state. That's when it's really awful. But Dave Mustaine from Megadeff, I think he said 17 times in the in rehab. He died twice, heroin. You know, Black Sabbath had a song about every drug. The one negative song, however they had, was against heroin. Of course, you know, meth, I don't know if meth really exists back then, but he's going to, you know, he doesn't even know that in the Weimar State in Germany, this stuff is actually going to matter in terms of physical addiction. This stuff is going to develop for the very first time. I think the Jews who run that, run that society. This was written in, you know, this written in 1925. He was probably in the middle of it or in the at least in the beginning of it. Around him, he's seeing this occurring that in a healthy society would be just the most bizarre and outrageous kind of behavior. For us, it's normal. For us to stay today. And eventually though, I mean, the big question is how long does it take for even the potential for free will to be destroyed? Is that possible? The ability for the man to not be able to see any natural law outside of him anymore? Is that possible? I'm not sure. But if it is possible and you come across such a person, you really can't do anything with him. If you really, the free will is gone and he just follows these terrible fantasy, whatever they might be, you unless they're socially beneficial, like patch atoms, you have this vision of yourself as helping a kid as a doctor. Okay. All right. But that's what we're talking about here. Then of course, there's a question as to why, let's say we're talking about drug addicts or porn-reverative, what do you need that in the first place? What led to this even, what did you say I need to break my normal consciousness? I don't even want it anymore. And this ceaseless exhaustion, he says here, and it consumes those very powers and faculties of the soul that normally would have love and truth. Now they're perverted. It's like a hijacking. Hijacks them and forces them to do the bidding of demons. It's fantasies. The way that the fantasies are, how demons communicate. And they can't create anything. So the closest they could come is to have us think of things that don't exist and can never exist. That short-termism, short-term thinking, all of this you find unmasked in a knowledge-arkey. And, you know, Elyan actually is writing at a time where this is beginning in Germany. And he's witnessing it around him. Of course, he spoke German without an accent. And he lived there for a long time. But this is, you know, this is what started then, we know now as a day-to-day, normal aspect of life. And what you do with people who possibly could never see free will again, I don't know. But certainly they have to be coerced violently. However, when he addresses the villain's will, he encounters not a healthy inner force capable of self-compulsion and self-restraint. But a shattered, corrupted, and restless lust. If this is will, then it is blind, not guiding, but obsessed, not choosing, but burdened, and if it is dominant, then under the sway of malicious passions. This is a will that knows no restraint and has no desire to know it and, moreover, is so internally motivated that the force of psychic compulsion, coming from without, from without, proves impudent and ineffective. However, it is still a will, revealing and objectifying itself in the flow of external actions, indeed, that provide it with vital satisfaction. To insist that external pressure on this will is permissible only with its prior consent is something only a spiritually and psychologically naive person can do. For only that evil, for only spiritual naive, naive, or a naivety can revere the autonomy of evil lust, and only psychological naivety can allow that evil lust would consent to external interference to priving it of its pleasures. Tolstoy lived in a genuinely healthy society. Talking about, you know, not needing to fight evil with violence, he wasn't thinking of people like that. And he couldn't figure out that if his anarchist agenda was, I were actually put in a motion that this sort of person is going to be everywhere. It's not just going to be people reading Plato and being irrational and freezing me. It's going to be, you know, what would happen if the, I used to say when I had a Facebook account, to women, friends, female friends of mine who were against the cops after 2020, you know, all that nonsense. And I said, you know, if the state were to collapse, if the comfort would disappear, you would be the sex slave of the, of the local oligarch drug dealer. Because that's what happens when states go away. It's not freedom. It's just a strong man takeover. You know, with the drug dealers or whoever, but, but those, you know, with the most arrogance, with the most money, with the most weapons. Now, what they're going to do to you, they're going to turn you into, you know, and what do they think is going to happen? I couldn't get over the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the police thing, which, of course, was totally, we don't actually believe that. That was promoted by the, by the regime. After they had completely made up an entirely false story about what happened in Minnesota. But, um, it's, you know, Tulsoi is looking at, you know, the Russian air, aristocracy and the very pleasant peasants on his, on his farm. He's not talking about, you know, he had no act, he didn't really talk that. I had no access to this. And you go to downtown Philadelphia and you see the addicts, an entire street. See it on YouTube sometimes. Of people simply just laying there, laying in, in weird positions, the, the meth, meth addicts, especially, it doesn't work in this case. Not everyone is rational. Enarchism implies that everyone is capable of being rational or is rational. And only has to happen is the state will disappear, everyone will be free and productive. And I guess, you know, some people will clean the toilets and, uh, uh, work in the stores. These people have no idea of the, what goes into the division of labor, what creates a civilization. But what Elin is talking about here, and what he's, you know, he's dedicated his career to what I have. And you have the war against liberalism. Because liberalism creates this personality. And it creates the personality that, that has citizens saying, you know, you can't really punish these people, you can't really hurt these people, you can't spank or kid, you know, um, and it gets worse and worse as time goes on. And, um, it's, it's, uh, it's, it's an absolute outrage. And it's what postmodern capitalism has become, uh, under a worldwide oligarchic system. And, uh, now of course, Elin couldn't possibly have known what was going to happen. But he was witnessing it starting. This is somebody who is dead. You've seen people with dead eyes, a thousand, you know, um, a thousand-yard stare, the people are dead inside. What do you do with these people? Um, Tolstoy completely ignored this sort of person. No, if the state were to fall tomorrow, it would become an oligarchic. It would just become a, we're groups of strong men, take over, and people ran to them for protection. That's what happened when the Western Roman Empire fell. That's what happened on the state, totally collapsed in Russia, you know, that Jewish oligarchic. I don't know what thing, you know, it's so ridiculously naive and he uses that word here. And he's talking about Tolstoy here in, in, in particular. And sometimes, well, actually all the time, I don't think there can be a consistent anarchist. I think this is just a negation. There are war with things that they hate, and it's just very emotional. Attack on anyone with power. But consistently, I don't think they're well aware, educated people are well aware of what would happen. Tell story was living in his own little dream world. And it shows in his writings. Therefore, one should not be blinded or embarrassed by this. The evil doer, of course, disagrees with this out of ballast, and this is natural. For evil would not be evil, but a good-natured weakness if it tolerated resistance, but the resistor, compelling and thwarting, outwardly striking the active evil lust of the evil doer, must appeal to his potential to spirituality and the confidence that this spiritual will, insofar as it is still alive, is on his side. The autonomy of the villain would only be scared if it remained the manifestation of the spirit and malice and in evil deeds, but in reality it is the manifestation of anti-spirituality. And its essence is no longer in autonomy and not in self-control, but in lawlessness and self-indulgence. Finally, all this compelling and suppressive resistance does not at all become a manifestation of evil or an evil deed because it is transmitted to a person through the medium of his body. When you have weak willed, especially in our society, weak willed white people. Educated, weak willed white people go along because their wife wants them to do it, but the system wants them to do it. That's just death. It's future death. And they're not necessarily evil. They're just too weak to do anything about it. There's a difference, he says, in the first sentence, between someone who is evil and someone who is just, what does he say, a good nature weakling. So this is more of the same here. Actively outwardly striking the active evil lust of the evil door must appeal to his potential spirituality. In the confidence, spiritual will, in so far as it is still alive, is on his side. People know exactly what I mean. He's talking about approaching somebody who is in serious trouble. Otherwise, otherwise, his intelligent person, trying to appeal to that side of him. He seems to suggest here that he does believe that the potential for free will can be destroyed. And that means this guy has had careening towards his own destruction in one way, either death or prison. In so far as it is still alive on the side. Remember, liberalism deals with freedom, purely negative content. Christian point of view is the ascetic point of view, that is autonomy. Allowing your reason to flourish because you have fought a war against your own passions, let alone against evil door with around you. And that isn't a set of life. There's no getting around it. This is why people who want to do that today are in such trouble. As we all know, how difficult it is to be the one who comes in and says, "You're all rotten people. You're either weak or you're evil." Well, this is exactly what the precisely, what the prophets did in the Old Testament. And the prophets, except for a one, were murdered. Well, in Jeremiah with Thonin to a sewer, I guess. I think they saw Isaiah in half. He was of the upper classes. That's what they did. They came and they told the truth. Some nobody comes into the assembly and tells the truth. And it freaks the amount of such, because they know he's right. It freaks the amount of such an extent that they have to get rid of him that way. And so those who are in the midst of fighting this, we're not talking about autonomy here. You're talking about, or some people say liberty in autonomy are very similar. Freedom in the way that Americans use the term is just as negative, "I could do whatever the hell I want," which isn't true. Whatever the regime tells you to do, whatever the latest fashion is. It's not whatever the hell you want. And when you meet someone like this, it's very hard. It's hard to convince them otherwise. And sometimes you realize that it simply can't be done, even with violence. He's switching to a more concentrated attention on the body right now. I think this may be a good place to cut it. What do you think? I agree. I thought that as well. Totally agree. All righty. Everyone go over to the show notes, go over to the descriptions on the video, donate to Dr. Johnson's work, buy his books, buy his latest book on Ukraine, and reach out to him, join Patreon. Do what you got to do, just support his work, and keep him unemployed. That's what you want, right? Yeah, well, in a sense. We don't have real jobs, and yet we work what 12 hours a day. My ex-father in law used to say, he didn't understand. A lot of people don't understand. I don't punch a clock. It doesn't mean I'm not working. Our job is of essential and critical importance. And unfortunately, I'm not independently wealthy. I need the occasional donation from our friends to keep going to remain autonomous. And I've been able to do it so far without having to get another job. Oh, I can't even say that without getting ahead. Because you know, thanks for doing that. You're stuck within the system, and you never go back again. Yeah. Yeah, somehow I don't see you picture you back in groceries. It doesn't seem like that would be something out of a really weird, kind of British skit show kind of thing. Let me tell you a brief story before we go. After my freshman year in college, I got a job at Jenkinsons Pavilion, which is down the Jersey Shore in Point Pleasant, where I live. And somehow these guys thought it'd be a good waiter. They were mistaken. One of the things, the problems with the new, they had onings and whenever it would rain, the water would collect. And someone needed to push the water up and out. You know, you see, you know, how it was just, it was just hang there. I know. I know exactly what you're talking about. Do you know what I'm saying? So I went and I got a poll, not a person, an actual poll. And I did it in a couple of places. Third place I did, it went, there was a whole family there with kids crashing down onto them. The place erupted and laughter. I walked away, didn't ever look back. The kid thought it was part of the whole show. The kid thought it was great. I was sure, right? This is what happens. The whole thing was everything. The place went everywhere. I never look back. I never look back. I just said, keep on walking. And I eventually had to deal with it. I got fired, but I was rehired as a bus boy. And that's what I did for part of that summer, 1990. I didn't give a damn. You know, the kids, if the kids didn't love it, it would be different story. The kids absolutely were laughing. Saying, this is so great. It's starting already. It's amazing. They had fun. That's great. Alright, man. I'll talk to you in a couple of days. Thank you, Dr. Johnson. Alright, my friends. See you then. Bye-bye. [MUSIC PLAYING]

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  1. The transcript begins with an ad for Specsavers promoting free hearing checks, followed by a podcast host addressing inserted political ads and urging listeners to skip them or support the show ad-free via Patreon or Substack.
  2. The main content is a reading and discussion of Ivan Ilyin's "On Resistance to Evil by Force," focusing on chapter seven about power and evil. It analyzes physical coercion vs. spiritual influence, arguing that violence is only acceptable when it serves the common good and the individual's self-improvement.
  3. The discussion connects Platonic and Aristotelian ideas, emphasizing that inner freedom and autonomy require cultivation through discipline and punishment for correction, not revenge. The host criticizes modern prison systems for nonviolent crimes and endorses nonviolent correction.
  4. The host links these philosophical concepts to contemporary issues, such as weak-willed individuals, the role of fantasy and media in manipulation, and the distinction between negative freedom (doing as one pleases) and positive autonomy (self-governance).
  5. A second ad for Gomo fiber broadband interrupts the discussion, which then resumes with further commentary on spiritual development and the dangers of societal brainwashing, including references to historical revisionism and the Holocaust.

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The transcript features a podcast episode that mixes commercial advertisements with a philosophical discussion of Ivan Ilyin's work on evil and coercion. The host begins by promoting a hearing check service and then addresses the insertion of political ads, advising listeners to skip them or subscribe to ad-free versions of the show. The core of the episode is a reading of Chapter Seven of Ilyin's book, which examines physical coercion and suppression as methods of influence.

, spanking a child or boot camp discipline) and tyrannical violence that serves selfish interests. The host connects these ideas to Plato's Republic, arguing that inner freedom must be actively cultivated through self-discipline and loving assistance, not coercion. He criticizes modern prison systems for nonviolent crimes, advocating for alternatives like house arrest or forced community service.

The discussion also explores the concept of autonomy versus negative freedom, warning against manipulation by media and fantasies. The host references historical figures like Ronald Reagan and Thomas Jefferson to highlight cultural differences in understanding freedom. Despite interruptions by a second ad for fiber broadband, the philosophical thread continues, emphasizing the need for determined minorities to guide spiritual and moral development in society.

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A tyrant serves their own interests, while a monarch serves the common good.

Prison is counterproductive for nonviolent offenders, as it can make them more violent; alternatives like house arrest or fines are more appropriate.

Russian has multiple words for freedom, like 'svoboda' for general freedom and 'volnost' for taking liberties, but they are often used for groups rather than individuals.

Fantasy, manipulated by demonic forces, creates unrealistic desires that never satisfy, leading people to become corrupt.

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