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Dinesh D’Souza Talks Left vs. Right, the Sydney Sweeney Controversy, Gynofascism & More!

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Dinesh D’Souza Talks Left vs. Right, the Sydney Sweeney Controversy, Gynofascism & More!

Dinesh D'Souza offers a critical analysis of modern political discourse, focusing on how the progressive movement sustains itself through narrative control and the suppression of dissent. He argues that key progressive narratives—such as America being a racist society or the Democratic Party being the source of all societal harm—are not just ideological but structurally maintained to prevent accountability. These narratives are built on a foundation of selective truth, where dissenting voices are dismissed or smeared, especially if they challenge dominant narratives about race, identity, or politics. D'Souza illustrates how this process operates in real-world examples: from the dismissal of scientists during the pandemic to the hyperbolic attacks on conservative figures like Shelly Luther or the cake baker. He contends that the left avoids accountability by creating false crises—like the myth of widespread lynching or the "most secure election" claim—while using targeted attacks to intimidate and silence potential critics. The political strategy, he says, is not just about winning arguments but about enforcing ideological dominance through fear, misinformation, and the criminalization of dissent. He further observes a growing "guino fascism" in which activists, often over-educated but under-prepared for real-world challenges, use intellectualized rhetoric to provoke outrage without producing tangible results. Ultimately, D'Souza sees this as a breakdown of shared political goals, where polarization is no longer about policy differences but about the suppression of any independent thought that contradicts the dominant narrative. He emphasizes that true change requires not apology or compliance, but direct confrontation—such as questioning the legitimacy of policies or institutions—and a return to rational, results-driven debate.

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Well, on this episode, Dinesh D'Souza joins me also news with Andrew and we'll do that right after this. Bet online. Hey, it's Adam Corolla from the Adam Corolla show. Football season is here and Bet online is where the action lives, competitive odds, spreads, totals, player props, and same game parlays. Live betting keeps you in it from the opening drive to the final whistle. And when the clock runs out, hundreds of slots, table games, and live dealers while they're waiting. Enjoy the freedom of online gaming where the action moves with you and every moment is yours. Visit Bet online today and discover where the action never stops. Catch anchor man, the legend of Ron Burgundy. Fantastic. The Matrix trilogy. Welcome to the real world. Mean Girls. Side up. Tried to hit. I'm the key in the world. And so much more for showtimes. Press nothing. They're free 24/7. That is so affectionate. On Pluto TV, stream now. Pay never. From Corolla One studios in Glendale, California, this is The Adam Corolla Show. Adam's guest today. Dinesh D'Souza. Plus the news with Andrew Hobson. And now, Adam Corolla. Yeah, get it on. Got to get it on. No choice but to get it on. Mandate to get it on. Thanks, tune in. Let's tell the friend Dinesh D'Souza back after a long layover. But we're glad to talk to Dinesh. Interesting guy. Got a book out. The stones cry out. Not out quite yet. But coming out October 13th. It's a biblical archaeology, prophecy, and the last days. Dinesh, I find a very fascinating guy. It's kind of hard to put you into a category, I guess. But let's just set the table with a little history for you. A born in India, right? Right. I came to America at the age of 17 as an exchange student. I lived in Arizona with four different American families. Very important, because that was my kind of period of really starting to assimilate to American life, living in families. Then I went to Dartmouth, graduated in the early 80s, caught the Reagan bug, came to Washington, DC, and spent 20 years, more than not really, in these think tanks. The American Enterprise Institute, the Hoover Institution, later at Stanford, here in California, wrote a bunch of books. Then about 2012 is when I pivoted into documentary filmmaking. So today, I'm kind of known as an author and filmmaker, and the film stuff is more recent, started about a decade and a half ago. I know there's certain personalities that really bring out the eyeer in the other side, and like progressives and lefties. Some they're a little more agnostic about. Others get their more angry, I feel like Denish D'Souza makes people angry on the other side. Just going back over the last 25 years, there are certain kind of nerves on which the whole progressive movement rests. Yes. So first of all, the idea that America's a racist society. Yes, they love it. They love that, they depend on that. They depend on it. Yes, you know, you're correct in that. I say they love it or they like it, but they depend on it. They need it. And a lot of other things are built on top of it. So, for example, the women's movement is built on top of the civil rights movement. The gay rights movement is piggybacking on top of that, the trans on top of that. So they've got a whole pyramid going. So that's one big theme. The other big theme, which is kind of connected to the race issue, is that the two parties switch sides. This is absolutely critical for them because otherwise, all the most vicious crimes of American history fall squarely on the back of the Democratic Party. Right. So they've got to kind of say, those crimes are now mysteriously transferred to the Republicans. Right. We're the slavery side, and they're the side where the Jim Crow side, where the slavery side Abe Lincoln was one of them, you know, that kind of stuff. That kind of stuff. The 2020 election was, it's a very strange election, right? Because let me just put it this way. Obama got about 68 million votes. And 2012 and 2008, roughly that amount. And then Hillary got about the same. Now, the demographics were different by 2024. So Kamala got about 75 million votes. So this is sort of the top range of the Democratic Party. But in 2020, and only in 2020, Biden got 81 million. So millions of votes, like materialized for Biden and promptly disappear thereafter, right? That's inherently odd. Yes. And so, but the left dug in really early on this, it's the most secure election in history. So that's another runner for them. So I think the problem is my specialty is sort of raw nerve detection. Yes. And I think this is why they're like, this man needs to be, you know, and this is I think why I was prosecuted by the Obama people. Because I don't think they cared about whether I went to jail or not. I think their main thing was, how do we, how do we put a wrecking ball in this guy's career? That was their goal. Well, they must smear anyone who has information or an opinion that battles with their narrative. So what they do, I mean, we all just saw it through COVID. You have a whole bunch of scientists, guys who worked at Berkeley and Stanford and stuff like that. And there's one big fat smear campaign. So what we have to do is, it's essentially like somebody saying, there's a village town cry or something. And he says, something's happening. You know, the volcano's going to go off. And you think to yourself, I don't want the town to panic. I don't want that information. So I'll just say that guy's drunk. And then we won't listen to him. And then I can get on with my agenda. And so there's a version of that that they did, they did it with COVID. They took all the scientists who had all the training. And they just basically called them nutcases and quacks. And then dismiss them. And then we immediately got back to, you know, Joe Rogan was nuts. Anybody on the internet who said something different than what they were saying is nuts. And it's one thing to dismiss a guy who's doing a podcast. But it's another thing to dismiss clinicians who've been at these institutions for 30 years, applying their trade with all the training in the world. But there were all nut jobs, dangerous, and we just moved on to the next thing. And now we just moved on to AI. Anyone who's pro AI is nuts and dangerous. You know, so the first thing they do is they smear the person. And they hate you probably more because the people they hate the most, especially when they're talking about race, are people that they look at as people of color who are competing with their narrative. That's the worst for them. Right. I mean, the worst thing for them is a person of color plus very well informed on these issues because they cannot afford it to be seen that there's more than one narrative. Right. And this is why they've worked so hard to get an almost monopolistic control over, say, the elite universities. Right. When I was a Dartmouth, it wasn't quite like that. There were about a half dozen prominent conservatives in the economics department, on the history department, who would push back. And so we were outnumbered, but it wasn't the case that they had run us off the campus. Right. But by the time my daughter went to generation later, you would have to, you know, go hunting to find a single outspoken conservative. They might have been one or two, but they were hiding under their desk. So the left was successful in moving from seven. And this was the same thing in Hollywood, right. They've moved from domination and imbalance to sort of the ability to hound you out, if they thought that you were making their narrative uncomfortable. Yeah. You know, it's kind of interesting. I had somebody say to me that we're talking about Sweeney, the actress, and she's getting everyone upset over her sexy campaign and all that stuff. And a woman said to me, she just said, they just can't stand a beautiful blonde. And I said, no, that's not why the left is going after her. The left is going after hers because they think she's a Trump voter. Because she's never said anything pro come out. You know, Taylor Swift talks about Kamala. If you, you can get on a list and you don't, you don't even have to put your name out there. All you have to do is not be pro all the crap. Therefore, and you de facto get on onto that list. So they don't hate her and they don't hate the other blonde from the WNBA. Because 'cause they're blonde or beautiful or outspoken or anything. When they start talking about sort of conservative values, they immediately go that person voted for Trump and we're going after that person. And that's what happened with COVID. If you said, "I don't think I should wear a mask," they didn't hear anything about a mask. They heard you're for Trump. And then they would go after you, because otherwise you'd go, "I don't want to wear a mask." And they'd go, "Who cares? I'm wearing a mask." And then they'd get on with their day, but the reason they singled you out one after you is 'cause they heard I'm voting for Trump. - There's a scene in Orwell's 1984 where they're trying to get this guy Winston. They've got him kind of all tied down to admit the two plus two is five. - Right. - And he's reluctant at first, but eventually he goes, "Well, this is too much." He goes, "All right, there you go, two plus two is five." And he thinks, "Well, that's gonna satisfy them." - Right. - But of course it doesn't. Now, why doesn't it? Because they know that inwardly, he doesn't believe it. And so they want to stamp out that inward resistance. I think it's so telling about the left, you think they'd be like, "All right, well, a bunch of these actors who maybe are more moderate or more conservative aren't saying a word about it." Well, that's a win for us because they could be out there preaching the right-wing message, but they're staying silent. But no, that doesn't satisfy them. They're like, "We gotta go hound these people unless they are explicitly on our side, we're not satisfied." - They never say anything, but you always can tell where the ladies of the view are gonna come down on whoever we're talking about, whoever's in the news by sort of how they vote. You know, I'm looking at you, Andrew, but there's a woman, she was a attractive woman. She ran a nail salon or a salon in Texas, and I think she just got one, some sort of house seat or some whatever political thing. This was a woman who was a small business owner, a female small business owner, and she defied the laws and said, "I'm staying, I'm keeping my salon open." And she was a guest on the view, and all the women from the view, who were four women empowerment all attacked her, because she wasn't perceived as a strong woman business owner who was doing what was right for a community, her clients and her employees. She was a potential Trump voter to the women on the view, and that's how they saw her, and that's why they attacked her. They didn't attack her for keeping her salon open, and that's how they work. - Yeah, absolutely. - Shelly Luther, this her name, sorry. - That's right, no, no, I know the case, and look, I mean, the left is even more apoplectic when somebody who is a small fry challenges them. - Yes, they have that. - Because they're like, listen, we can swat really important people and take them out. So for you, little intrepid Texas business owner to take us on, guess what we're gonna do to you right here? And so you've got this giant show, the view, you've got all these people who do this all the time, going up against someone who's not used to the public limelight in the same way. And their idea is, let's terrorize you into submission, and as in the case with Orwell, the target isn't even really her, is it it's, whether it's the masterpiece cake baker or whether the idea is to send a message. - Yes. - We want to discourage anybody else from aspiring to be her, right? - Yes. - We don't want that kind of unspokenness. You've got to recognize our, you need to be in a subordinate position. It's a bit like Islam, you've got to be a dimmy. - Yeah, well, we just do a couple of Charlie Hebdo situations and we'll shut you all up pretty fast. And the word will get out, and you won't talk any shit about Islam because you will get stabbed, beheaded, whatever you. And the masterpiece cake baker thing, I mean, that story is the most insane story of all time. He's literally just a Christian guy who wouldn't bake a cake for a cake couple. - Let's go across the street, you know? - No. - But that thing went to this, it went to the Colorado Supreme Court. And then the heterosexual couple, then I wanted a transition cake. And that poor guy got his life destroyed because he simply said, I'm Christian, this doesn't jive with my beliefs. And I'll be happy to bake you any other kind of cake. And the next thing you know, he's tied up in legal proceedings for the next 10 years. - And the marvel is that you got an ordinary guy running a small cake shop who had that kind of guts. Because that's not normal. The normal guy is going to say, well, listen, you know, I don't want to be sued. It's going to ruin my whole business. - Yes. - I'll just bake the cake. - Yes. - I'll do it under duress, you know, I don't want to do it, but I'll make an accommodation. But this guy is made up of a different cloth. - I agree. - Yeah. - But that's what happened with COVID. Too many people not being this guy. We should have stood up. Every place should have stayed open. Every restaurant in California, when they said, now we're going to cancel outdoor dining. She said, now we're staying open. And they all should have done it. And that's the sad part about the situation we're in is I believe there was a time when we would have done that. And we didn't do that. When knew some shut the beaches, we should all went to the beaches. - Yeah, I think what happened is even going back when I think to the Reagan days, you know, we conservatives. There are certain institutions we distrusted, right? Like the liberal arts colleges, the elite colleges, we distrust certain elements of the media. But we trusted the FBI. We trusted the health authorities. And so there was a lot of difference when these things started, you know, political targeting COVID. We're like, well, I mean, why would a bunch of hospitals and doctors be putting out lies? I mean, that's making sense. So, you know, initially I was kind of on board. I thought, well, Fauci's done this since Reagan. You know, this can't be that ideological. But then you begin to realize the kind of machinations that these guys were doing behind the scenes where Fauci would call up these virologists and basically go, listen, you're on the government goal. We got all these government grants going your way. I need you to write a paper that says the COVID had a natural origin. And then of course, he has a press conference and he holds up the very paper he commissioned. He's already read in advance and he's like, "Oh, a very interesting paper has just come out." - Yeah. - This kind of stuff is, really shows you the depth of where we went into COVID. - What's the difference between that and 52 intelligence experts took a look at Hunter Biden's laptop and think it has all the earmarks of Russian collusion, you know. It's an insane proposition. You go get somebody to write a paper for you with a bunch of experts' names on it and then you hold it up. I mean, if you watch that debate with Biden and Trump and Trump's bringing up China and it's bringing up Russia or whatever and Biden's like 52 experts just told us that this had all, like, first off, you want to talk about election interference? That's election interference. I was always like, and I don't know where you stand on this, but I know this is a subject that's near and dear to your heart. You know, there was a lot of discussion like the dominion boxes, they were hacked or whatever it was. I was like, maybe they were. I'm sure there was a lot of that, but the real election interference was the FBI and the CIA and the 52 people that signed on in the Russian collusion and CNN and everyone else in the big tech, not running the laptop store. That's interference. - Absolutely. - And that one we can substantiate. - Right. I mean, when Jane Fonda said COVID is God's gift to the left, I mean, that statement requires a little bit of dissection, right? I think she meant number one. COVID has wrecked the Trump economy. So, you know, one cheer for that one. Number two, COVID has given us an opportunity to do the kind of social control that we otherwise could only dream of. That's number two. And number three, COVID gives us a way to change all the election rules. So, you know, whether or not the fraud occurred at scale, the opportunity for it was there. Suddenly you have all these mail and drop boxes. You've got all these dubious voter rolls. Nobody's checking signatures. So, look, I'm then to say in the face of that, the hoodspot that is the most secure election in history. I mean, I've never heard a more nonsensical statement in my life. - Well, the most like all that was is it's like somebody, you know, it's your wife accused you of cheating and your answer was, I've never, ever looked at another woman ever in my entire life or even thought of one. You know, you're just going, you can't go, nah, I didn't cheat. That wasn't me. You go, the most that, that was compensation for what they were doing. The most secure election. - I mean, they go to the other extreme. - Well, yes, the most secure election ever, that was just because it wasn't a secure election. They don't, see, they don't, they never do that. They never go. - Look, sure, people that sneak into this country legally, they commit some crimes and some murders and some rapes. Yeah, they do some of that stuff, not all of them obviously, but yeah, some of them do, and we agree, we don't want it, they go, those people pay taxes, they ask for less, they give more statistically, they don't commit any crime, you know, it's like they go hard, always the other. They don't get any benefits, you know, they- - They're the best Americans. - They're the best Americans, they can't even, you sneak into this country from Guatemala and you become better than a family from Nebraska. Now, what they, again, if they can't just go look, I get it, they're not supposed to be here, but they do some jobs that we don't want to do, so they're better, they're better, they do less crime, they pay more, they ask for less. Like, that's what they do with everything. - Yeah, and that's the, and they've done that with the crime statistics, you know, in other words, again, you'd think they'd be like, hey, listen, all right, we admit that most of the jails have a lot of black eyes on them. - Right. - We admit that, you know, even though blacks are 12% of the population, they're far more likely to commit violent crime. Black and white crime is much greater proportionately than white and black crime, they'll never admit any of this. - No. - They go to the, as you say, their formula is white man evil, black man virtuous, and what I find really remarkable, and it's again, a testimony to their audacity, is that they will make a hero of George Floyd. - Oh my God. - In other words, they don't mind taking the worst guy in society with a lengthy record, and they're like, this guy is the new Martin Luther King. Almost as if they're saying like, we dare you, we have the power to make George Floyd into Martin Luther King. - Yeah, it's very interesting. You're right, because like, you could say, you know, you bring up, I always bring up white guy, straight guy, my age where we go, Joey Budafuco, and I'd go, I don't wanna hang out with that guy, I'm not gonna defend that guy. I mean, I don't wanna, I executed, but not a good dude. They're in this weird position where they have to take criminals, violent criminals oftentimes, and turn them into deities. And it's all part of the same thing we're talking about. If you could just be intellectually honest, you'd go, look, George Floyd wasn't paying a lot in taxes. George Floyd was, you know, he did some drugs. He was wandering around, he was probably high. He was trying to hand off a counterfeit bill. So I, it wasn't exactly like he was at work that day, but he doesn't deserve to be killed. They can't do that. They have to turn them, they have to build statues and turn them into saints. And then they have to go desecrate the Charlie Kirk statue and bring that guy down, our Ben Franklin, or whatever it is, because it's kind of a weird all-in thing for them and what they cannot, they cannot have any nuance, they can't have any subtlety. They have to just go cartoon, character, all-in. They'll go cartoon in the good department, Obama, man, that guy, superhero, that guy can do, Obama can do no wrong, Trump is evil. And by the way, Trump's evil, like a cartoon character, 'cause that's what he likes. He likes pain. He likes to see little man suffer. See, he likes fear. It's like, do you guys see everything through the lens of a cartoon? 'Cause that's how they shape everything. - Yeah, I mean, and it's global, you know, look at this Jason R. Day case, where you have this, first of all, there are plenty of black guys in America in Great Britain, if they were trying to find some guy, and maybe he's not the smartest, but nevertheless, he's a perfectly competent academic, we're gonna bring him into Cambridge, we're gonna give him a chair. No, they're gonna find some guy who's like a plagiarist, who's made up his entire life story, who's evidently autistic, who talks like a fifth grader. Okay, we're gonna make this guy, we're gonna put him in the Isaac Newton chair at Cambridge. It's like, we're defying all of England to say that he's not the sort of African answer to Newton, and everybody's like, actually, he's not, you know? And so then when you speak out, it's like, how dare you speak out, you're the villain, and so this sort of mild mannered academic who points all this out goes, really guys? He becomes the bad guy. - Yeah, I mean, you know, 10 minutes ago, they wanted Michael Avanati to run for president. - That's right, if you heard about that one. - First off, you know what I wanna say, do you ever get tired of being wrong? Do you ever, does it ever, do you ever hit your saturation level for what you can be wrong about? You just go from Russian collusion, right to COVID, right to Michael Avanati, right to George Floyd. Like, do you have any capacity? You know, oh, now we got a lynching problem in this country. There are people being lynched, so we need a bill. It's an interesting process, though, that they do. So it's a kind of a, once the last time you beat your wife, kind of question, it's like, we need a bill. We need an anti-lynching bill. We do? Why, you're foreign lynching? No, I'm saying, isn't that a crime already? No, we need a specific anti-lynching bill. Why, well, once we get this bill across, it'll suggest that we have a huge problem with lynching so much so that we need this bill. And then they lay it all out. They push it all out there. And then, like somebody tweeted me today, they were like, hey, AOC and Presley, we got the guy who lynched a person, he's a black dude, and all the other ones were suicide. And I just tweeted back, they're on to the next lie. They put it out there, and then they just move on to the next thing. And then it kind of like spreads around a little and people go, yeah, I guess we do. Well, there's a lynching situation going on. And their memories aren't really good enough to separate, you know, Trump said, and Jack Bleach, right? And they just good people on both sides. It just laid out, it's kind of smart. They just kind of lay it out there and move on. Yeah, it's the, do you remember how excited they were when there was that Bubba Wallace incident? Oh, there's a garage opener, you know. But the moment they got the word nuisance to their head, they were off to the races. Right. And as you say, it doesn't matter when the thing is totally discredited. There's no accountability, no apology. They just moved to the next one. Yes. And when they move, what they realize, I think it's kind of like this. I think it's like this. Sorry, getting back to you being a wife, Peter. It's like, if I said, look, Dinesh Asusa, I have to have some legislation. It's called Dinesh Asusa stops beating his wife. We got a real issue here, people. And then I get a bunch of people to tweet about it. Bubba, blah. And then at some point, you go, there's no evidence for this, show me the evidence. And then I go, we're going to get the FBI to investigate Dinesh beating his wife. And then an FBI comes up six months later, they got nothing, nothing conclusive. Dinesh never goes to prison or anything. But I got it out there enough. And I said it enough to people with short attention spans that 10 years from now, if I said to someone, you remember Dinesh Asusa, a handful of people go, that guy beat his wife, right? And I'd go, good, my job's done. Yeah. Now I'm going to move on to the next guy. I would say that the current quote Dinesh Asusa is the Lindsay Clancy Holdout juror, because they're like, listen, even though we probably can't put the genie back in the bottle, we can't somehow exonerate Lindsay Clancy, we need to punish this guy, right? It doesn't matter that he's this black guy, he's this Haitian guy, he's Catholic, he's conservative. That's actually four strikes against-- Oh, yeah. So far from diminishing their appetite, they become more aggressive, and they want, again, their idea is to send a message to every other potential juror. Don't be like this guy. Right. But I think that the folks have gotten the new playbook, and what I'm saying is this. The playbook, for 25 years ago, if you had a publicist, and they would say, the views ganging up on you, or this group's coming after you, or that politician coming under, then your publicist would say, let's have a presser just apologize, just apologize, and then we'll just turn the page. We'll just get up there, say something. You could go, but I never said that, or I didn't mean that, or they misinterpreted that, and they go, let's just get you apologizing, tell you didn't mean to hurt anybody, and we'll move on. And that used to be the playbook. Now, the playbook is Cash Patel, who's being holding front of Congress, and he ain't on the defense. He's on the offense. - Yep, Hexeth, you know, - All of them. - My son-in-law, Brandon Gill. - Brandon Gill. - Get lost. - It's a perfect example of that. You know, he's on the offense. Now, he's got the ball, so he kind of is on the offense. I'm saying these guys are getting hauled in front of these people. And instead of back paddling or like you misunderstood or that was out of context, they just go right. They go, look, the way to beat my Tyson is not just, it's not to stay away from my Tyson. It's the rush toward Mike Tyson. You know, a Vanderholy field beat Mike Tyson because he said, I'm coming to you, bro. You don't have to look for me. The guys who were worried about getting hit by Mike Tyson all got knocked out in the first round. So no more apologies, move toward them. And it works because it shuts them up. And once you declare yourself a person who doesn't apologize, they don't go after you. Like think how much here's a thought, here's a little mind game. They hate Joe Rogan. They all hate Joe Rogan. They never asked him to apologize. In the past, if they hated you, they demanded an apology every 10 minutes, there'd be a new apology demanded. They would demand, they demand Bill Maher apologized. They demand, I apologize, they demand Tucker Carlson or whoever the person is, they would demand that Stephen Miller, he needs he owes us an apology. They don't do it anymore because apology comes in the form of fuck you. I'm not apologizing and they hate it. It drives them nuts. This I think is one of the most revolutionary aspects of Trump because I think that he put that, he put that fighting spirit back in the Republican party post Reagan, the Republicans had lapsed into sort of Bushism. And Bushism, you know, again, Bushism, I'm using generically here. It includes McCain. It includes Romney. I think of how quick those guys would have been to apologize. The Obama had even slightly hinted that McCain was a racist, McCain would be doing, you know, you know, and binders. Yeah, I know. And it's the only, the only way to remedy any of this, whether we call a misogynist or racist or homophobic, because you just go shut up, you're racist, shut up. Not, I have black friends, you know, that's, that's not the way to do it. Because by the way, they don't really think you're racist. All they're doing is getting you on the ropes. And here's the proof of it because if they accuse you of being a racist, a true racist would take it as a compliment, right? If you're a true racist and proud of it, you'd be like, Oh, wow, thank you. That's like, you know, that's like accusing me of being Indian and I'm like, yeah, sure. The accusation of racist is based on the assumption you're not a racist. And therefore, you will, back away, you'll grubble, you'll give examples of how you're not. And then they've kind of got you where they want you. Find that Dawson or Andrew, wherever Andrew is. Find Cash Patel getting into it with Adam Schiff, because it's, it's awesome. It's the new world order. It's the only way this is going to work. But I would argue we didn't need to end up here, but you guys kept calling us guys racist and misogynist and we hated immigrants and we hated children and we wanted them to starve and, you know, blah, blah, blah. They started with all this stuff. We sat around for 20 years trying to manage it. Is that a sort of, how do we deal with? I'm being called a racist. I need to write them a letter saying, I'm not a racist, you know, like that, and then Trump figured it out. Although I, I told Tucker Carlson 10 years ago when he's like, when is this going to end? I go, it's going to end when we just, you just punch back. There's no more apologies. Apologies, don't not work. Why would an apology work if they didn't think you did what you did in the first place and didn't care? You know what I mean? Like here's, here's the whole thing. I'm going to call you an arsonist. You're not an arsonist and I don't think you're an arsonist. So you apologize. I don't care. I don't think you started the fire. I'm just going to move on to the next thing. I'll call you a pedophile next, you know? Why would an apology, apology would work. Apology works in a relationship. Let's say there's a marriage and the woman goes, you know, I was expecting you and the couples were here and you showed up an hour late and then you'd go, I'm so sorry. You're right. I was distracted. It's never going to happen again. And then your wife can go, okay, I feel better about it. But what if the, what if the couple was never there and you were never late? Like, does she want an apology for the thing you did that she doesn't think you did? Okay. So here I think you're touching on something much broader and more profound and it's this. I think it's that in the Reagan era, we assumed that the Democrats and the Republicans were like that couple. Yes. We assumed that the country had shared goals. Yes. And we disagreed about the means. Yes. We assumed that if the left said something ridiculous, it's because they didn't understand. We need to explain to them how a free market works or why social security would work better if it were privatized or why the Soviet Union is dangerous. So in other words, this was sort of like an argument among friends in which both sides are trying to sort of make the other one see the light. We all, but we all have, you know, I want to send my kid to public school because he's got to grow up in the real world. And yeah, there's going to be a couple bullies there. But you want him to go to a private school. The wife does. So we can get a world class education. But we both want the kid to come out with the best result from high school. Exactly. Exactly. And if you went around by a large asking Democrats, do you think that America, would you like America to be a prosperous society? Would you like America to be an example to the world? Would you like to have law and order? 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I think that something changed in America in the Obama era. I won't say he's entirely responsible for it, but I think he is mostly responsible. And it's the gangsterization of the Democratic Party. And it is a breakdown of an agreement upon goals. So that now I think that explaining, for example, to Mom Donnie why government run grocery stores are a bad idea isn't going to get anywhere. He's not interested in hearing that answer. No. He's actually not interested in what is the most efficient way to run a grocery store. No. That's not his motive at all. So this has created a new politics in America in which, and when people talk about polarization, this is actually what they mean that we no longer agree upon even goals. Yeah. And neither side really even wants to persuade the other side in part because the other side is not open to persuasion. Right. I would argue that if the other side produced results, I would be much more apt to listen. If they said, look, in Seattle, in Portland, we started this clean needle exchange and we made, we took possession of heroin from a misdemeanor to just a citation at a parking ticket. And that was eight years ago. And let me show you a graph. We've cleaned up this city quite a bit. Many of the businesses business owners, the small business owners in the Portland area are thanking us. He used to be a problem with people doing drugs. If they produced results, right, if they said, now, look, we're not going to scrape these homeless people off the streets and Los Angeles and put them into a mandatory rehab. We have, we've, we've done away with the camping laws. We're letting them live on their own terms in the park and when, and I went and the people who used the park, they're enjoying it. Many of the kids are enjoying it. They're having a good time. Someone's dog got lost, homeless guy found it, brought it back to the owner. If their policies produced results, I, I would go, well, that one, that one does work. Yes, school choice, bad idea, big public schools with lots of union members. That produces the kind of test scores that we want. If it produced things, or you know, if you just want, look, we're going to get rid of standardized testing. We're getting rid of the SATs. If a thousand college professors all penned a letter saying, these people are now more prepared and doing a better job in my classroom, then I would go, well, I guess, I guess their idea is working here. Yeah. I mean, I think about it. It doesn't work. You, you want to get rid of nuclear and put up windmills. Okay, 20 years later, did the windmills produce more than the nuclear produce? And the answer is, no, Germany's back. They got to go back on Russian oil. I'd go, well, then I'm right. I mean, have you ever seen a TV program where the host goes, listen, we're going to introduce who to 10 guys who have all committed, you know, violent crimes, burglaries, hold up, hold ups and so on. This one guy killed a guy. And we, we're very leaning with them. We let them out. And guess what? This guy is an hour real estate agent. This guy's a schoolteacher and they're all productive. The reason you never see that show is, think of it in a big country, you still can't produce those 10 guys. Right. And then you go, they go, well, we'd like to defund the police. Listen, to be fair, if the technique was working and, you know, I was like a former carpenter people all day just went, hey, don't do it this way, do it this way. This cleaner's faster, you get a straighter cut. I go, let me see what you got. They go do it that way and I'd go, oh, yeah, that's a good way to do it. That's a better than the way I've been doing it. So I was just doing it because, by the way, because I'm working, I'm living. I want, I want less criminals. I want less homeless. I want less drug addicts. I want less crime. I want higher test scores at schools. I want the inner city to rise up and get a world class educate. I want all this stuff. I want it to, it's your techniques, your modalities don't yield results. My wife and I travel a lot of the time and we go in, we're in a city, you know, Chattanooga Tennessee. We'll look around. We're like, wow, this place is really beautiful. We're like, we don't see a single homeless guy under the, you know, the highway and all these cute little shops, coffee shops, people are walking around even in the later evening, then my wife goes Republican city. Sure. In other words, the, the result is noticeable. Now, there aren't that many Republican cities, but the ones that there are look very different than Democratic cities. I mean, the whole vibe is different. I agree. So with that in mind, and since presumably we all want the clean safe city, we can stroll at night. Now I think there is just oppositional defiance now. And I think there's a, what I call guino fascism. I think there's just a lot of women and they're angry and they're just going to fight in whatever it is. If Trump said up is down and down is up or left is right, they just go fuck you. I fuck off. I don't care what you want. You want to honor the, you know, you want to start a law over some innocent girl that was killed on a subway train or something. Fuck you. We're not doing it. How about we stand for all the victims of a, nah, we're not standing like there's a female oppositional defiance disorder that's not limited to females, but it is, it runs strong in them. And it's just fuck you. I'm not going along with anything. And whatever it is you want, we're going to get the opposite. I mean, you could set your watch on the squat. You know what they're going to be for and what they're going to be against. And they're going to be against every single thing that's normal that you want, everything that's rational as you want, anything you want, it could, it could be Palestine. It could be a domestic issue. It doesn't matter what it is. I know where they're going to be. They're going to be the opposite. They're never going to be like Federman. You know, they're never going to go, well, I vote Democrat, but I do agree. We need a stiff border or like a, you're not going to get any of that just pure oppositional defiance. Yeah. I think a related phenomenon which goes hand in hand with that. I was watching a, I think I even see span, I don't know what it was, a meeting of the Oakland City Council. You know, and I look at these guys and I go, you look like a bunch of like assistant tutors at Oakland State, you know, your, so this is a, this is an aspiring elite. Yes. They can't run anything, they don't care about it, but they know that Oakland is got a lot of real estate. It's got a lot of tall buildings. They don't actually, I don't think care if people leave Oakland. They don't even care if Oakland becomes a bit of a carcass because their thinking is, we will rule the carcass and feast off of the carcass and it's going to last a pretty long time. And that's much better than anything else we could be doing with our lives. In other words, what I'm getting at is I think in our society, America has been run by and large by an entrepreneurial class of innovators, wealth builders, Elon Musk types. And on the other side, you've got, you know, you've got these disgruntled activists, some of them are professors, some of them are attorneys, some of them are NGO types, community organizers, Allah, Obama, and they're talented in their own way, but they're not talented in building anything. No. They're talented in the art of stimulating resentment. They know how to work a crowd. They know how to say, how did that guy get where he is and how come you're not in his place? They specialize in this kind of stuff. And this is what's driving the politics of socialism. I agree. They're all cut out of the same cloth. They sort of overeducated, but sort of underprepared for real life. There's lots of, you know, lots of degrees and stuff, but sort of useless, you know, if you're a Chicano studies major, you're not going to make a whole lot of money when you get out of college. So they're sort of overprepared. They also had something sold to them, like the most, the people that have the most college experience are the ones who are going to be the most successful. Meanwhile, there's plumbers and electricians that they went to high school with that are doing a lot better than they are. They end up having to take sort of the kind of jobs you might take in high school, working at Starbucks or something like that, just sort of entry level stuff. They're kind of fed up with the system that's not working for them as they perceive it. As they made the wrong choices early on, they're like pseudo intellectuals. They know all the verbiage, they can talk their way out of anything. They're great when they're talking, but nothing ever comes out the other end. There's never any bottom line for them. They never had to make payroll. They've just never had to run anything. They've kind of intellectualized their life, and it's almost like back to the Mike Tyson thing. There's Mike Tyson, and he's just pounding away on the heavy bag 24/7. I'm sitting around intellectualizing why I can beat him, why I'm better, why I'm better. I've trained, I went to a boxing academy, we didn't work out, but we studied all the other boxers, I've read many textbooks on boxers, I had some guest lecturer come in, Larry Holmes came in and did a guest lecture and stuff, and then they stand up, they go now I'm prepared to fight Mike Tyson. It's like you're not prepared to do anything because you've never done anything, and then they get in, and they get elected, and they start implementing stuff, but they don't implement it like a small business owner would implement it, they implement it like a college professor who had tenure would implement it, which is I can never be fired, and then it all turns to shit, and then they go into some sort of mode where they actually start hiding things and not releasing things, and now they've essentially become corrupt politicians at that point. Yeah, and it's remarkable to see the practice play out, I mean, here's, you know, I come back to the Lindsay Clancy jury, the black juror goes, well, let's figure out if she's criminally responsible, did she kill her kids, did she mean to do it, right? That's what we're here to talk about, and then you listen to this juror who's been giving interview. She goes, well, we were hoping to start a conversation, right? Is that your job as a juror to start a national conversation, but see, I think for her, it is, because the way she's looking at it, she's thinking, I'm a superior individual, unlike this black guy, and I have a chance. this, this jury service is my unique opportunity to have an impact on the world. All the stuff I learned in women's studies course at college, I can now implement, we can start a conversation. So that's, so they're missing the point of why you're there, missing the point of what a jury is there to do. And ironically, they're accusing the black guy of not being a good juror. Yeah, there was a, the Adam Schiff tape, sorry, with the cash cartel, I alluded to it and we, of course, got going in different directions, but it's, it's great. And if you want to know what the new world order is, this is it. Well, to believe that, do you think they're stupid? No, I think the American people believe the truth that I'm not in the weeds on the everyday movements in the weeds, what I am doing is protecting this country, providing historic reform and combating the weaponization of intelligence by the likes of you. And we have cowardly proven you to be a lot in Russia, gay, in January, you were the biggest fraud to ever sit in the United States, standing here disgraced to this institution and an utter coward. I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised to continue to lie from your perch and put on a show so you can go raise money for your charade. You are a political buffoon at best. Well, you can take, take it to the bank and FBI is protecting this country and control the state and the FBI to the California. But all you care about is a child sex predator that was prosecuted by a prior administration and the Obama Justice Department and the Biden Justice Department did squat. And what did President Trump do? Bring new charges courageously. And what have we done? You said I'm the most transparent FBI director in history. 33,000 pages of information to you. I challenge you to say anything credibly to the truth. Go ahead and run to the cameras where you want to go now. That's it. That's the only way to do it because all shift does is lie. He lied all the way through Russian collusion and there's no consequences. He's just moving on to whatever the next lie. This go right or COVID or I don't know, AI now or Trump something. It's just going to go right to it. You just got to push it back on their face. Totally. And you know, the thing about Brandon Gild is that he's in the shift position, right? Yes. So typically the Republicans who are in that position, they have the five minutes, they have the 10 minutes and they will use it to blow the eight. They'll they'll ask, they'll be, oh, let me make it clear. My position is this. My position is that whereas Brandon doesn't do any of that. His position is, let's use this time for socratic surgical you know, dissection. No, he's, I'm a big fan of his. I spoke to him at the RNC for a while backstage, or not backstage, but in the green room area, whatever. I have nice conversation with him, played many of his clips on this show. And I agree with you that the point can be driven home in a much more effective way when you, you're not shouting it, but also asking questions. And, and I believe the best way to get it things, whatever you're talking about is, is asked questions. I always give the example where I used to have a guy who shared the shop with me and he left the air compressor on in the back like all weekend. And I got here and I realized it'd been running all weekend, you know, and I said, I said, Donnie, I think you've left the air compressor on all weekend. And he goes, I didn't, I didn't turn it on. I didn't, I go, but did you use it on Friday? And he goes, yeah, I used it. And he said, but you didn't leave it on? No, I shot it. I go, hmm, you think somebody broke in, you know, over the weekend and maybe turned it on and then just left, I don't know. Huh, we should look around and see if somebody may have snuck in and turn, was there anyone else here with you? No. So I think, I think you're writing the script for the sequel to my cousin Vinnie. All right. So what he does, I didn't start yelling at him, I have to pay for that electrician, you're such an idiot. I just kept asking questions. And Gil keeps asking questions and it's super effective. Yeah. A year ago, Dartmouth, we had this witty kid who was part of our little conservative gang. We're all going into the dining hall. And there's a pompous leftist sitting at the, on a desk. And he goes, he goes, you, you need to donate your meal punch. And then we go, why? And he goes, it was for some ox fam or one of these things, you know, he goes, because there are millions of starving people in Asia or in Africa. And my friend goes, name two, dead silence. You know, I mean, obviously it was a bit of a stunt. But what my point was, when you press these guys, and the point here is not just that he can't name two, the point is that he has this, the left has this abstract attachment to humanity. Yes. But they don't care about particular people. No, not, not at all. They care, I'll tell you, I'll tell you why. Maybe because I'd learn this because I come from these people. My grandmother was this way. What they, here's what their goal is. Their goal is for you to think of them as a very good person and possibly superior to you. And for them, not to do anything that would make them a good person, such as volunteer a bunch of their time or money or anything else. And so it's, you can see it in the micro, which is my grandmother would talk all the time about, you know, the indigenous people and how they need more and these people suffer. But it's in these large sweeping, it's sort of a global climate change kind of way, you know, to mean like I don't really feel like composting, but I can talk about globally things, you know, and she would always talk about the people, the brown people, the indigenous people, the people that need the help and stuff like that. But if she ever had somebody working for her that was a brown person, you know, a gardener or a maid or something like that, she pulled me aside. Like, since she did like a Filipino caretaker and she's like, I'm giving, she's already getting $15 an hour, but she says she wants 18. I'm not going to do that, you know, and I go like, I go, well, here's a way for you to actually help someone that you speak of, but that person has a name and that person wants a check and that's not their business. Their business is some sort of global all children should have a seat at the table, but I'm not going to go down and volunteer and help anybody or do anything. And they never actually did anything for anybody else, but they always had these broad proclamations that made them better than you. And so when you say, they go, I believe all children need a seat at the table and you go, all right, what we need is we need families and the dad has to, if they stay intact and dad has to, oh, so you got a problem with children, you know, now they're better than you again, because they made the proclamation. The proclamation was no, no emissions, no, no carbon, no fuel. We get rid of all of that. Everyone gets a seat at the table, world class education for everyone and everyone needs world class healthcare. Now their work is done and they go back and watch Jeopardy and they're better than you. I was at Amherst a few years ago and this kid is talking about, you know, the plight of the underrepresented minorities. And so I go, listen, you think that Amherst is a racist institution. You think that minorities are underrepresented and whites are overrepresented unjustly. I go, you're white. Tomorrow morning, why don't you walk into the registrar's office and tell them that you're going to withdraw from Amherst? And you are going to do so on the condition that your seat is given to an underrepresented minority. And he goes, whoa, I'm not going to do that. I go, well, look, you're the one who's telling me the system is rigged in your favor and against that. That's not my opinion. That's your opinion. Right. And so applying your own logic, you don't really deserve to be here. And you have a remedy available to you that doesn't require you to change the mind of mankind or even change the mind of an institution. You can simply implement your principles in your own individual specific case. This is literally starting everything with a land acknowledgement. This is, this is what they do. This is what they do. Now, I wouldn't start it because A, it's, it's pompous and arrogant. But B, if you're not giving the land back, then I don't know what the, I don't know what the proclamation is about. It does not change the plight of the indigenous people whatsoever. But you start with a land acknowledgement. which I believe to them feels they get some sense of satiation from it. They have a sense, it's an interesting concept I've been thinking about for a while. They actually think they did something with the land acknowledgement. Now, all we did is waste 45 seconds of everyone's day because nothing's coming out the other end. Whatever tribe was mentioned, you're not one millimeter closer to anything successful because of this land acknowledgement. And it was the same around here, but across the country, when Elon Musk came out with Doge and Trump and all that stuff and everyone out here with a Tesla had to put a bumper sticker on the car saying they got this before Elon went crazy and they're disavowing. They all disavowed. They basically put a thing that said, yes, I have a Tesla, but don't blame me. I hate Elon Musk. Well, my thing is go turn your Tesla in. You have a three year lease, your year and a half into it, turn it in early. It's gonna be some cost associated with that, but you can surely do that. And then go get yourself a Chevy Volt or whatever, or Toyota Tursell. I go get another car. Give your Tesla to your nephew who voted for Trump. And then you go get yourself a prize. No, not gonna do that, don't wanna do that. That's going to cost money. I will, however, get a bumper sticker. - Yeah, I mean, imagine of all the liberal billionaires who advocate higher taxes were to say, you know what, we think that the tax rate should be hypothetically not 38 or 39, but let's say 60. And so for the next five years, just set a good example for the country, we're gonna pay 60. We're gonna show that we can be done. - Right. - And then maybe the rest of you will go, hey, it's working for these guys, maybe we should do it too. But so why don't they go ahead of the curve and do that? None of it, I've never heard of a single one to say, all right, I owe a higher tax burden according to me. Again, this is not being imposed on him, he's advocating for it. - Rokana is putting golf courses in his kids' names and doing all the shit that any rich family would do to try to save a little taxes and incorporating this and LLC that, I mean, it's insane. Now, the only difference, I think, between you and I and the land acknowledgement people is I acknowledge, I'm not giving this land back to the Iroquois, so I'm not gonna say they deserve the land. And I'm not gonna lecture you about the Iroquois 'cause I'm not doing it. - Right. - I'm not turning in my Prius and I'm not paying 70% in taxes, so I'm gonna shut up about it. - Yeah, and talk about it, nonstop and do none of it. - And conversely, if we thought that they had a point, we would sit him down, we'd bring in the tribal chiefs or something and we'd say, all right, well, listen, we think there is an injustice here, let's negotiate. But the left doesn't do that. Their whole point is to preserve, they need to preserve the structure of victimization. They can't let that go away. This can never be settled. - No. - It is ongoing and also find it striking that they never have an end point, right? If you were to say to a liberal, all right, listen, in what society would you be a conservative? In other words, you think the tax rates too low. All right, it's too low at 38. If it were 45, would you be like, okay, we did it, we got it done, now we're content. Or would you be pushing for 50? - They can never give you that point. - No, but you're right, if you're having the DNC convention in some auditorium and you're doing your land acknowledgement, if I was doing a land acknowledgement, I would say, look, let's just say this, 5,000-seat auditorium and bands played every weekend and it generates X amount of income every year. Let's break off 15% of that and give it to the people who settled this land originally. Because I mean, now we're moving towards something, they may say I want 30%, but at least there's something and I can go, I'm putting my money where my mouth is. I'm bringing up this tribe, I'm saying they're unjustly removed from this land. We now have a 5,000-seat venue where their land used to be. So let's break off a piece and give it to them. And at least, and I would watch that and I'd go, okay, at least that's something they're doing. They never do anything, they're never going to a penny. - Exactly, and you'd also say something like, hey, listen, wouldn't it be great if that money could go into a scholarship fund or an entrepreneurial fund? So you guys can own teams and run businesses and create new stuff. To me, one of the problems with this whole Casino lottery business is like, that's the one industry we want all the American Indians to go into. It's like, okay, listen, we think like gambling is going to be their future. Wow, so that's not doing them any favors in terms of building a self-sufficient society at all. - Totally agree. Well, I don't know. They act like reparations to black people are going to help black people. That's an insane prospect. I would argue it'd be wildly damaging to just take folks who weren't used to making money who didn't run businesses, who didn't know anything about finance and just drop off two million bucks cash. That'd be a disaster. They would hurt the black community. By the way, I was money, the remedy for everything for them. I was just drop off cash. How about dignity? How about work? How about ethics? - Well, it's so corrosive about all this is that, you know, when it's hard to say no, right? Imagine someone who came up to me when I was 17 years old, I came to America and they were to say India has been the victim of hundreds of years of British colonialism. So we propose, from here on out, to send you a $5,000 check every month as reparations. I'd be like, what sounds pretty good to me? Why? Because I'm not going to think, you know what, this is going to damage my work ethic. This is going to make me lazy. It's going to actually stifle me in the long run. But because I'm 17 and I'm starting out in life and I don't have any family here, I don't have any credit, I'd be like, I'll take the cash. So it's corrupted. - Everyone would take the cash. - Completely corrupting. By the way, Rokana's two minor children hold trust stakes in three private Ohio golf clubs, everyone. That sounds like a poor guy, don't it? Anyway, yes, I don't think they understand that not only giving people money or anything for free is not only doesn't help them, it hobbles them and hurts them in the long run and they're not factoring in human motivation whatsoever. And their biggest problem with everyone of their policies is not factoring in human motivation. - Exactly. The, to me, the great power of America is the power to be the architect of your own destiny, to be in the driver's seat of your own life. And when I think about America, I mean, I have seen and experienced the sort of prosperity or abundance of it, but I think most importantly, I say that the kind of unusual trajectory of my career, I mean, these think tanks, which are kinda like universities without students, I'm authoring books on a wide range of topics from biblical archeology to history, to politics. I'm making films that are in the theaters. I mean, where else could I do this? You know, so the, what America has given me most is the chance to create a life that would be impossible pretty much anywhere else. And that is a much bigger deal than handing me a monthly check. A good note to exit on. My best friend, Dinesh D'Souza. I'll see you in another 14 years. - Maybe we should do an occasional phone call to keep up the, you know, the, the proximity. - Well, maybe I'd call you up and I'd just put, put Gila on the line. See there? The book, The Stones Cry Out. It'll be available October 13th. Dinesh, come back anytime. 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And I'd just come home and my kids would be eating cookie butter like out of the jar and I'd go, I don't want this and then eventually what people tell you is they go, you got to throw away all the food that she buys, all the shitty cereal and stuff. You just come home, you throw it away and then you cut her credit card and have and I'm like, okay, but that's really, how about you just don't do this thing that I pay for that I ask you for. Yeah. How about that? How about the person I say on a Monday, flip the lid down on the moist palate thing or it'll dry out? How about they just do it? Or there's that part where you go, you need to discipline them like, yeah, or they could just do the thing that we talked about just that I pay for that or we could cut the credit card in half and I could have a fit and I could get a garbage bag and throw away all the food I paid for. Or there's an alternative, Andrew, they could just do some of the things I asked them to do repeatedly. So I'm trying to turn lights off when I leave rooms now. Oh, Andrew. You know, Andrew is, he's a light lever on her and a non-mug rinser and I expected more of him, but not since we went out of town together, I followed him around and shut his bathroom light off every time I know I just drink coffee a lot. But I don't rinse out the mug. That's wasted energy. I'm just, even when you're going to sleep, that mug is, you're not a mug rinser, not a mug rinser and you are a light lever, but look, you come from privilege. I get it. His parents are both doctors, I'm a hoidy, toyty main line kid. That's right. I get it. I learned something. All right. What did you get? Did you get your underpants I brought back over those years? Those were mine. Yeah, thank you. Those are good. I'm just a light lever on her, coffee rinser guy, leaving my underwear everywhere. He's a panty dropper. Shit, dude, when I'm with you in my car, I guess then why forget it? Underpants down. Watchin' movies from the early 80s, damn. Yeah. I'm in the mood. All right. What do we got in the news? All right. Well, we've got that boardwalk hit and run suspect, you know that chase video you showed me yesterday. Yes. I'm, I'm never, it's not, it's not the hit and run. Hold on a sec. Oh, look at that. Look at how fast he was going. This guy was haulin' assin' a Tesla down a boardwalk. Look at this guy. She's good for her. Just jump right out of the way. I mean, now, at the angle looks like it was eight inches from her. It could have been a foot and a half, but either way, yeah, so the guy, but the part I was enamored by is the guy who's chasing, I don't know why I'm jealous of people who say what they're thinking out loud repeatedly. Oh, we've got that video as well. That's my favorite. That's my favorite. That's my favorite. My favorite video is the dude who chases her. Yeah, watch this one, check it. We gotta get this. Let's get the sound. Get this. Startin' the big ant. Yeah. I like the picture on this end of it, yeah. Sorry, just startin' the top. Start it. From the top with the sound. There we go. Yo, get him, get him. Get this (beep) I broke. Get this (beep) with the (beep) is your problem. (beep) Yo, let me go to the camera please. What the (beep) is your problem? You're tryin' to (beep) I don't even think this is the one I saved. 'Cause the one I saved has a longer lead in or the guy just chases him for a long period of time. All right, let's do this one. Here we go. Yo, get him, get him, get this (beep) guy, bro. Bro, get this (beep) guy, bro. Get this (beep) guy, bro. What the (beep) is this guy's problem, bro? Yeah. This camera works amazing too. And guy, bro. What the fuck is your fucking issue, dog? Get the fuck on the ground, bitch. What the fuck on the ground? What the fuck is your problem, bitch? All right, pause the part. I wish I was that animated about anything. First off, the use of bro nine times before they caught up to him. The, the, I mean obviously he's incensed, but the funny thing is the words part and that he's yelling at everyone else to take the guy down. But he catches him, he takes him down, let's keep it going. It's good. What the fuck? Yo, let me go to hell, but I'm pleased. What the fuck is your problem? You're trying to fucking kill people? No. Fuck it, stay down. What the fuck is crazy? You're fucking crazy, dude. I'm sorry, bro. All right. What the fuck am I? Okay, first off. He's wearing a shirt that says fuck around and find out. So I guess that lady could have found out. Also, it's a lot of like, I'm just a crazy person. So I'm just going to fucking turn a car into a weapon. I'm sure nothing will happen to this guy. Probably has a nice long wrap sheet. That's the story. He does. Oh, what do you know? I didn't know anything about that. I just love the guy screaming, what's your fucking problem, bro? Over and over again. He is the male version of my favorite female who's on the airplane. And the Marshalls have been arguing with the guy to get off the plane for 45 minutes. And then they, at some point, grab him and start dragging. They go, what's going on? They just yell it into the sky as loud as they can. What is going on? By the way, if a dog could talk, that's what dogs would do. They would yell what's going on. Normal people know exactly what's going on. You have to be dumb to verbalize what's in your head. That way dumb people verbalize everything that's in their head. And they'll do what they do what kids do. Like they'll go, you shouldn't sit in that chair 'cause you're so fat that you could break that chair. They're like, I know that's in your head, but you don't have to verbalize it. But kids do it and dumb people do it. Yeah, everybody in love on the spectrum, they say they say the quiet part out. Right, that's what we love about them. Them and Dr. Drew. What's happening to all the things on the screen? Oh, there you go. Oh, it's burnt rattles. It's burnt rattles on the screen. All right. All right, well, let's keep watching the video. He goes for it. All right. No, fucking stay down. You're fucking crazy. All right. We agreed he's crazy. No, dude. You fucking stay on the ground. No. No. No. Oh, no. He's like a bass and sound. No. Oh, no. No. No. No. No. Yeah, we got it, bro. What the fuck is this guy's problem? You almost killed me, dog. No. Come on, dog. I don't care. I do not care. I do not give a fuck. I do not care. No, you're staying to fuck down. Stay to fuck down. Bro, someone help me, bro. Someone stay on this guy. Someone. Someone stay to fuck on this guy, bro. No, I'm not doing that thing. What the fuck is your issue? I don't give a fuck, bro. I lost my mind, bro. You almost killed, like, 80 fucking thousand people. What the fuck is your mind, bro? Pretty pretty number there. You're like the same. Hold on. This guy almost took out a college football at Capacity Stadium, bro, with that Tesla. I feel like people would have got to move their seats eventually, if you were to get-- At the first 10,000, he mowed down with the Tesla at College Park. I think that would have moved. This is like real life. point break. Dude, this is Keanu. - Bro, you almost took out like 80,000 people, bro. - Bro, you killed people. You got to go down, man. Anyway, this piece of shit won Antonio. Well, go down the guy for catching him. But this piece of shit won Antonio Gonzaba. 39, he pled not guilty on Wednesday. And he stole the Tesla and seriously injured a 25 year old woman during a police chase. He phases up 24 years and eight months in state prison if convicted on all charges. We'll see what happens. - Did they have a bunch of priors? - Sure did. Here we are. He had auto theft before this, burglary, assault with a deadly weapon and attempted kidnapping. - I gotta go attempted kidnapping. That should be-- - That's enough. - That's enough, yeah. - We have tons and tons of these fucking criminals from these Latin countries who just come here and we just fucking revolving door them. And yeah, everything is good until he then grabs a Tesla and starts running over people on the boardwalk. Like, they do this thing all the time where they're like, you wanted to get kick this guy out of the country. He wasn't a criminal, he wasn't. Yeah, I know, but tomorrow's a new day. Everybody? - Yeah. - I don't know. Why are the Democrats fighting for this guy? That's-- - I just don't know. - Like, if you're a bartender and you serve somebody and then they fucking plow into a sidewalk and kill somebody, then you get arrested. But if you're a judge and you let some dude walk, - If you get busted, you know, if you're Martha Stewart, I don't care inside or trading. If you embezzled pyramid scheme, what have you? If you tried to like, abduct a kid, but it didn't work out, that's enough. - You're gone. - You tried, bye. - You thought it'd be a good idea. - All right, what else? - Well, I had to check with Dawson before we started this because he was talking about fraud the other day and I just wanted to make sure we weren't covering this again. There's just that much fraud happening in California. - I would be surprised if there was something other than fraud. - Nope, just everywhere. - It's just what it is. - I don't even expect there to not be fraud these days. - Guess where this fraud took place, at what sort of venue, what sort of offering? - Something with homeless, something with kids. - There we go kids, daycare, San Diego. It's a federal authorities charged a dozen people this Tuesday for fraudulently collecting more than 10 million in government child care payments in Southern California. - I don't, okay. I'm not sure. I know a lot of the child kid daycare stuff is fraud. Why are we paying for daycare? Why are we paying for it at all? That's your kid. You figure it to fuck out. I mean, I'm rich. I figured out what to do with my kids. But when I was poor, my family figured out what to do with their kids, that meaning me and my sister. I don't know why everything needs to be provided by the government. You had kids, fucking figure it out. And then also, you do understand that every single time the government gets involved, fraud, bump drafts them right in the front door. Like there's no such thing as like the government needs to be involved with elderly care, with home, whatever, with kids, whatever the government feeding the, whatever USAID, like whatever the government gets involved with fraud is its shadow. - It's right there. - Well, it's the easiest mark because it's not like they have to fucking balance their books. And who's your constituency? It's like the teacher's union's going, my kid used to say it's all time. We would be off for Easter. They'd be off for like two weeks, right? And then inevitably on a Sunday night, I'd go, well, back to the salt mine tomorrow, and they'd go, we don't have school tomorrow. And I'd go, wait a minute. We just had two weeks off for Easter. Easter was the last weekend, it's Monday. No, no, they have a pupil free day on Monday, and then we, and I'm like, oh, the people in charge of the schedule don't want to be there either, but they want to get paid. - Yeah, man, everybody wants to work from home. - And their constituency are kids who don't want to be there. - We can work with that. - Who's fucking complaining? So you can do whatever you want when your constituency is kids are homeless people because they never complain. They don't even know where to go. - Yes. - Well, we have a video of this. - No, just a lot of, just some interesting facts here. - Boy, I got a video. - Who would say, oh, is this, there we go. We do have it. - As agents from Homeland Security, the IRS, and other law enforcement partners, all carried out criminal search war and throughout San Diego County. - Women, why? - These suspects are accused of lying for years about how many kids they were taking care of in order to get federal funds. This month's long investigation required surveillance, where investigators say they watched, as no children went into the facilities. And in some cases, no licensed providers were present during the hours that they build for. The six men and six women arrested are each accused of stealing. - Oh, I'm positive there. Caesar, Yakub, Zahiyah, Rab, Dazomba, Turkey-Yaya, Modafa, Al-Fababa, Mazda. There's not one guy named Sam Perkins in their Mohammed Salem, whatever, Maryam, Omar. It's all a bunch of fucking third world fucking people that just come here to rip. I mean, Dawson, you wanna try these names out? Now listen everybody. - What guy's name is Kidamine? - This isn't, you understand. - I know, Kidamine. - I'm a Kidamine. - I'm a Gullah Hamman. - We didn't say, let's go stake out the Muslim brotherhood who are providing daycare. This is just a daycare group. This is just, you wanna try, you wanna try those first names? - Caesar, Yakub, Zahiyah, Dowdzai. Just try the first names. - Okay. - Turkey-Yaya, Mazin, Mohammed, Mauryam, Katera, Ketam, Iram-Mula, Iram-Mula, Ikramula, Zetun, Abdul Rahman, and Fociya. - Yeah, all right. I don't know, maybe people shouldn't be in this country, perhaps. Everything about that? Is that a thing? Do we have to protect all these people? Yes, they're from low trust nations and they come here and it's fucking easy. We'll get free money. - So again. - Why would they do anything other than this? That's what I'm saying. I'd be shocked and surprised if these people engage in other activities when this is the easiest way to make money. - Well, it's all connected because I don't know if you saw this, but LA Housing, this was in the New York Post, it just got an F, 100 out of 100, the last for affordability for buying a house. And it's all because it's all, like all it is, it's just everyone's getting ripped off by the government. It's fucking impossible. It's getting tougher and tougher to live here by the day and you pay a fuckload of taxes and you just get ripped off. - Yes, all I want to say to everyone on the left is LA is what happens when you guys get your way all the time. Do you like the result? And if the answer is no, we don't like the result, then maybe you're on the wrong side. Maybe you're backing the wrong people. Maybe you're voting the wrong way. If the end result is a bad result and LA is an example, I mean, it's a pretty easy formula. People go, what would a city be like if Democrats just had majority rule all the time? And the answer is it would be like LA. Okay, but you don't want to live in LA. No, I want to move. Why? Oh, I can't afford a house school system sucks and it's dangerous and it's dirty. Okay, so maybe the Democratic direction, maybe that's not the best direction to go. Is anyone putting those two thoughts together? Where would you like to move? Well, Denish says he went to Chattanooga, Tennessee and it's a Republican place and it was all clean and everything. Oh, well, maybe they have some thoughts or some abilities to do things that work better than this. Yeah, well, speaking of leaders in government, California, and best friends, they got your other best friend, Gavin Newsom. Oh, by the way, San Francisco, San Diego, Stockton, all California, all in the bottom 10 of Los Angeles. But anyway, Gavin Newsom, good dude. Yeah, great dude. Anyway, I gotta really, this is a good video. You need to check this out. He's, I don't know what the fuck he's saying here, but maybe you can figure it out. He, what you're saying no longer means anything to people on the left. He's talking about capitalism, democracy, democratized capitalism. Right, but Kamala Harris doesn't say anything and she almost, she got half the votes, you know, marginally half the votes in the country and never said a thing. Does that bother some? All right, here we go. This issue around democracy and the issue of around democratizing our economy, to me are the same issue. And it's foundational to moment. Capitalism as we know it. And I'm not arguing for nostalgia. And I'm not arguing for socialism. But I'm not arguing for capitalism as we know it. It's just not working. This issue around democracy. He's not arguing for anything. All right. But let me say this. I don't know how much more there is to go. Here's the deal. Capitalism is not working for lazy fat fox who don't want a fucking work. It doesn't work for them. I'll tell you what works for. Motivated campers. People that fucking show up early and stay late. People do the right thing. People who delay gratification. The people who act like people used to act when you wanted shit. When I met Jimmy Kimmel, he was 26 years old. Capitalism worked real good for Jimmy Kimmel. But Jimmy Kimmel was also showing up at the radio station at 345 in the morning, staying late, producing the crisper sound, and doing a whole bunch of shit. He wasn't getting paid to do. But it worked out real good for Jimmy. And don't give me the, oh, he's touched by God or he's blessed or whatever. Yeah. He's got a good sense of humor. I know a lot of guys with a good sense of humor. Capitalism did not work for them. Capitalism worked for him because he busted his ass. Capitalism worked for me because I worked every fucking weekend and worked for free. So it does work. It doesn't work for the new lazy fat fox that you guys are producing. No, it doesn't work for them. Why would it work for them? Their plan is lots of me days, lots of personal days, showing up when I need to show up, leaving early, showing up late and never doing anything extra and never working a weekend. Then no, no. Capitalism doesn't work and it's not going to work for those people. It works fine for the show up early and often and fight to keep your job people. That's who we used to have and that's why it used to work. It's not the system that doesn't work. It's the lazy fat entitled fox that are engaging in the system that aren't participating correctly in the system. So fuck off, Gavin. Hey, Adam, you played at the Kennedy Center recently. Yes. Two sold out glorious show. Wow. On a weekend. On a weekend. I was working yet another weekend. Ask me how many fucking weekends in a row? I have worked. Hey, Adam, how many weekends in a row? At least on seven. Nice. At least. Go ahead. Well, anyway, what was it like there at the Kennedy Center? It was good. It was a good crowd. It was a fun crowd. It was sold out. Like I said, did two shows and they like it because I will tell you if you go to the place, the towns that love you the most are the ones that are the bluest and the most dominated by leftists because then when you bring your ass into that town, it's like a speak easy. Yeah. They have built up, they have a real appetite for you because they're starving. Yeah. Well, what was the venue like? The venue was nice-ish, worked fine, almost died walking home in the snow, but other than that, it was good. Okay. We have some internet sluice. There was a photo of Donald Trump in Air Force One and they zoomed in. It's on our Twitter, Chuck. It's in a like tweet towards the top and you can kind of see. He's looking at something. I don't know if you can read that. Says Kennedy Center and then demolished. So that. That's. I mean, the roof wasn't leaking when I was there. Everything was up. It was sort of well-kept. I really didn't notice anything. I did not tour the entire grounds. I played. I don't know. I played like a five or six hundred room theater that was an ancillary theater. I think they have multiple theaters there. You know, backstage, walking the halls, green room, blah, blah, blah. Everything was clean. Everything was nice. Everything was orderly. I was completely fine with it. And I don't know if that's Photoshopped or whatever. No, evidently, that's not Photoshopped. Also, I'm not sure if Trump is the kind of guy who's like, I want plans to see what would happen if we were to demolish the Kennedy Center. What would that look like? If he's one of those guys, just put that in front of my face and then throws it out and doesn't actually go through with it. Well, he. The dudes are builder. And, you know, they need a ballroom. So he's going to build a ballroom. That's how builders think. Now, Karen Bass wants to go to Ghana because she's not a builder. It's a kind of a. You know, people are like dogs, you know? Some dogs hunt. Some dogs lay around. Some dogs are water dogs. Some dogs root foxes out of hedges. Like, we just. Los Angeles got a bunch of fucking dogs that don't hunt. Yeah. And they're in charge. And so that's the problem. Well, anyway, people are kind of losing their shit over whether or not he's actually going to demolish it, including another one of your best friends. We'll be Goldberg. This is great. By the way, is there something sacred about the Kennedy Center or whatever? The reflecting pond or pool or whatever it is? I mean, can we fix things? Can we update things? Can we modernize things? Does it really make a difference to anyone? Does anybody truly care about the ballroom? Who says they care about the ballroom? Does anybody? By the way, what do you do? Let's think where they go. Like, uh, that's not all going to be privately funded. That's taxpayer. We just gave away $10 billion to fucking NGOs and homeless people. It's just fucking bought Range Rovers and built cabins in Maui. Is it really that concerned over every nickel and every dime and where it goes? We got a fucking railroad going nowhere. All we do is waste money. Yeah, no one gives a shit. No one gives a shit anymore. We should. I want all of this insanity to stop. I'm sick of it. Yeah, sick of it. I'm sick of it. You know, look, the Republicans are sick of it. Democrats are sick of it. Independence are sick of it. I want to get back. Listen, you cannot have the Kennedy Center, man. It's not yours. It's never yours. You know, fix the war. Yeah. Forget the buildings. Fix the war. Fix the economy. Fix the economy. Stop trying to move stuff out of museums and stop it. We just pay attention to the American people. Can you just do? Yeah, I know. They're going to put a fucking mannequin with a gimp ball in its mouth and the Smithsonian. And then you go, let's get that out of there. Like, why are you messing with everything? Yeah, because you messed with everything. That's why we're messing with everything. I love that I love that will be Goldberg cannot form thoughts or sentences. I think we should use because I know it would stop swore and stop messing with the walls and stop with things. I don't feel like she closed the loop there as opposed to the Sydney Swini thing. That was pretty rough. Same out the loop. Find me a clip of Steve O talking and then find and let's re here because I think I think loopy and Steve O may have been separated at birth because if you listen to just the beginning of this, it's just like if you play the first 20 seconds of whoopee, just listen, first 10 seconds. Here we go. I'm sick of it. Yeah, sick of it. I'm sick of it. Just think Steve O next time. Now, Steve O's actually a lot funnier than whoopee. You know, the guy who sticks crocheting needles through his nut sack is a lot funnier than whoopee Goldberg. But I never noticed that before. That is that Steve O. played one more time at the beginning. Let's hear it. Democrats. I'm sick of it. Yeah, sick of it. I'm sick of it. All right. Now all we need is a clip of Steve O saying I want all this insanity to stop. I'm sick of it. I'm sick of it. And if you can't find that, you're fine. My favorites were ketamine, cocaine, nitrosoxide, PCP, of course marijuana, alcohol. Oh, I love Xanax so much. Valium. Wait a minute. Let's just got to do with the Kennedy Center. Chuck, you're fired. I want to see sister act with Steve O now. That'd be fun. That's a fun reboot. Mash it up, Dawson. All right. This Thursday, Burbank flappers going to be there doing show. I think Dawson's doing some stand up there too. I think Rudy's there to Casper doing a couple shows on October 2nd Wyoming at the Realtto theater. That's a good time. Let's see. Two shows Casper Realtto 9 p.m. Must be an earlier show in a later show. No two shows are happening at 9 p.m. I'll take the same time. 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Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Dinesh D'Souza, a filmmaker and author, critiques the progressive movement’s reliance on narratives about racism, the two-party political shift, and the manipulation of public discourse.
  2. He argues that left-wing groups systematically smear dissenting voices—especially those of color or conservatives—by labeling them as racists or Trump supporters, effectively silencing opposition and enforcing ideological conformity.
  3. D'Souza highlights the inconsistency in claims about election integrity, such as the assertion that the 2020 election was the "most secure" in history, while pointing to the absence of evidence and the political strategy behind such statements.

Summary:

Dinesh D'Souza offers a critical analysis of modern political discourse, focusing on how the progressive movement sustains itself through narrative control and the suppression of dissent. He argues that key progressive narratives—such as America being a racist society or the Democratic Party being the source of all societal harm—are not just ideological but structurally maintained to prevent accountability. These narratives are built on a foundation of selective truth, where dissenting voices are dismissed or smeared, especially if they challenge dominant narratives about race, identity, or politics.

D'Souza illustrates how this process operates in real-world examples: from the dismissal of scientists during the pandemic to the hyperbolic attacks on conservative figures like Shelly Luther or the cake baker. He contends that the left avoids accountability by creating false crises—like the myth of widespread lynching or the "most secure election" claim—while using targeted attacks to intimidate and silence potential critics. The political strategy, he says, is not just about winning arguments but about enforcing ideological dominance through fear, misinformation, and the criminalization of dissent.

He further observes a growing "guino fascism" in which activists, often over-educated but under-prepared for real-world challenges, use intellectualized rhetoric to provoke outrage without producing tangible results. Ultimately, D'Souza sees this as a breakdown of shared political goals, where polarization is no longer about policy differences but about the suppression of any independent thought that contradicts the dominant narrative. He emphasizes that true change requires not apology or compliance, but direct confrontation—such as questioning the legitimacy of policies or institutions—and a return to rational, results-driven debate.

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Dinesh D'Souza was born in India and moved to the U.S. at 17. He lived with four American families, studied at Dartmouth, and worked for over 20 years in think tanks like the American Enterprise Institute and Stanford. Around 2012, he transitioned into documentary filmmaking, which is now a significant part of his public profile.

He argues that the progressive movement depends on narratives like systemic racism, the idea that the Democratic Party is responsible for historical crimes, and the belief that the 2020 election was the most secure in history—despite anomalies in voting numbers. These narratives are central to their ideological structure.

He claims the left smears critics by labeling them as 'nutcases' or 'quacks,' especially when their views challenge established narratives. This is done to discredit experts and silence opposition, often targeting individuals of color or those with conservative views who are seen as threats to their narrative.

He notes that the left attacks individuals who challenge their views—like a Texas business owner who kept her salon open—because they are seen as potential Trump voters. The criticism is not about business practices but about political beliefs, aiming to intimidate others from taking similar stands.

He criticizes the left for transforming George Floyd into a symbol of civil rights despite Floyd having a criminal record and not being a victim of systemic injustice. He sees this as a deliberate act to create a 'cartoon' narrative, stripping nuance and replacing reality with ideological symbolism.

He argues that the left has moved away from demanding apologies and now actively targets critics by declaring them 'racist' or 'misogynist' without accountability. This strategy is effective because it shuts down dialogue and creates a culture of fear and oppositional defiance.

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