The podcast delivers a sharp, satirical yet deeply concerned critique of current political dynamics, particularly around government shutdowns and their real-world impacts on ordinary Americans. Hosts highlight how federal workers and low-income families suffer during shutdowns, with many going without pay or food aid—especially as the Trump administration deliberately withheld SNAP benefits. The discussion challenges the notion that political debates are about moral purity, arguing instead that voting decisions are complex and often driven by single-issue priorities like healthcare or food security. The hosts emphasize that while political discourse often centers on ideological fights, the lived experiences of people—especially those on the margins—demand empathy and practical solutions. They point to systemic issues such as corporate lobbying, inflated healthcare costs, and the misuse of public funds, suggesting that wealth and power are not just concentrated in the hands of billionaires, but are also exploited through institutions like insurance and education. The episode underscores a broader call for accountability: that political leaders must prioritize public welfare over partisan gains. It concludes by advocating for grassroots, community-driven solutions—like food banks and public health initiatives—as more effective and humane than political posturing. Ultimately, the conversation serves as a reminder that real change requires both moral clarity and concrete action, not just rhetoric.
Yep, Charlemagne, the guy Andrew Schulte. We are the brilliant idiots podcast back for another week of brilliant idiot. And this we have any, no, just mid roasts. Just mid roasts, okay good. We on, baby, have a kind of walk on. How you weekend, Ben Man, you week, all that good shit. Good, man. What'd you do this week? Anything fun? I got back up a little stage. Ooh. I'm gonna get enough, like, dude. How'd that feel? A little bit. How'd it feel to get hard again? I feel to get hard again, bro. Feels good to get hard again. Back on, bro. I feel good. I feel good. You didn't know? You got some shit? Got a couple of things. You got some things? Some things. Yeah, I keep posted a chat. What is there to talk about? Like, what do you talk about? I mean, you have to come in on some shit like the life. I think the thing that, like, I think the mistake that sometimes creatives make is that they go, okay, I need to do something like that. When I think that this process is just start talking and then you'll naturally gravitate towards the next thing you want to talk about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So now is the process of just finding what is it that I want to talk about? Yeah. So you're okay. You're trying to figure that out. I'm getting so tired of getting asked about you, bro. Wait, why? What happened? It's just like, I can't get on your head like that. This has never happened before to me in my life. Tell me. I just, this is why. What the fuck? Ask Andrew, bro. Wait, why? What's it? See, I did Melissa for a podcast. Melissa for a podcast. What was she saying? It wasn't a silly question. Melissa, I thought Melissa did a very good interview. Um, but at what point do people not realize? I'm loyal to the soil with my dogs, bro. That's what it is. That's what it is. It's like, yeah, yeah, you not know. It's never happening. Not shows. Not Duval. Like it's just no. It ain't happening. What the fuck do you want me to say, bro? What was she worried about? Um, the age old question of how can you be, uh, friends with somebody who supports Trump? It's interesting. You know, a lot of, um, friendships, relationships, family relationships were severed when, um, when people, when Trump came into, you know, the, the, the public conversation into politics was voted into office now twice. Um, a lot of relationships just kind of fell apart. And Andrew was firmly on that Trump train up until recently. And it's just interesting that it didn't seem to have like any kind of effect on your friendship, you know, especially the fact that he's white and you're black. That's just where we are now. Supports is interesting. Um, but you know, like I always say, you can, like, listen, listen, if you got it, listen, when you voted for somebody, I don't care. And, and if you, if you're willing to challenge the person you voted for, that's all I give a fuck about. Here's, but did she can't vote in America, right? She's not a citizen. I have no idea. I, I think she's from Canada, right? She's from Canada, but we don't know if, yeah, I really don't know. So my feeling on this always is like, if, if you don't vote, that's your right. But you shouldn't really have an opinion on anybody who voted. You can have an opinion on the world. You can say whatever you want. Yeah. You didn't make the difficult decision in voting for somebody, which means you're going to vote for things that you disagree with vehemently because there are other things that you might agree with. Yeah. So, for example, like with, with Kamala, right, like Kamala and Biden could have, like, stopped an ethnic cleansing in Gaza for a year, they had a year to do it. They didn't do it. Am I supposed to go a lot of people held their nose and voted for her anyway, but am I supposed to look at, yeah, I would never look at you, but like I'm, I supposed to look at Melissa if she could vote. And I'm, I supposed to go, so you voted to continue to ethnically cleanse her region. Well, for example, I don't know if she can't vote. So I don't know. She's not from America. So I guess my point is that, like, it's a very easy position to sit in this place where, like, if you don't vote, you judge the decision and you ascribe the worst of intentions to it. Right? Right. Because we, that's all we do is, like, we look at the worst thing that the opposition does. And then we go, well, that must be what they supported, like I supported, there's no purity in politics. I supported Barack Obama. I love, I love Barack, but like, there's things that I think that he did that I would disagree with. He was a, he drove strikes all day every day. So at my point, there's no purity test in politics, bro, that's the answer that I would give to you. It's just like voting for a person. There's this binary, whether you vote for Mamdani or you vote for Cuomo, whatever it is. It's like, it doesn't mean that you're going to support every single thing that one of those people do. You're making a decision, like, what are the things most important to you? There are some people that they vote based on abortion. Most people are single as you voted. Exactly. And that's like, that's the thing that's most important to them. And they might disagree with every other thing, but they got this thing that really matters. That's the, it is what it is. So that's where I would say, like, to, you know, to anybody who would be upset about their certain things, they're like, certain things are really important to me. And I would hope that like, I don't look at other people and be like, you want to continue that thing, like, cleansing a place in like America funding it. Like, I wouldn't ascribe that to you, Alex. Like, I don't think that you want that, but you voted for it. And like, you know what I mean, like, what he's saying is true, because that is also a single issue that made people not vote. But think about that. But think about all of that. That was a big deal for me, foreign wars was a huge deal for me. I don't, I didn't want to just continue funding the murder of people. All the people who were against Trump. And one single issue, regardless of what Trump may have brought to the White House kept them, allowed them from going to the, the, the both of Vice President Kamala. Yeah, that's true. But I believe at the time she was saying she believed in a two-state solution. So that's, yes, to my defense, I would say whatever you want. You say whatever you want. But if you actively doing the thing, wait til I wrote, she wasn't in power. When I run for something one day, I'm just going to show you how to do it. I'm just going to say all everything. Just tell him the truth. I like that. He's a felon, he can't even, I can't run man. I do not think you can. Oh, yeah, you can't fucking Trump is president. What the fuck? He just can't run for president. Mar-a-moz corner, baby. Every 10 years. Up in years I run for Mar-a-moz corner. But Trump, Trump ran his president. He wasn't a felon yet. Mar-a-moz corner. No, saying. I mean, he's not that easy. Just off. 300 votes. Basically. No. People don't realize how few votes take to win. I mean, look it. I'm like, all I take is this many people. Okay. Mar-a-moz corner. I'll be fine. I'll be fine. I'll get $20,000 a year. I was saying, cool it. I didn't made my money. I'm good. What's up? We out here. What's happening? Solomon needs a nap. What is this? Let's check it out. What is this? We haven't done this in a while. What's up with you though? How was your week? Man. Oh, week was great. I went on another college visit. Which one? My daughter's in college visit season. I don't want to say, but I'm going to tell you something, man. Yeah. I ain't never seen no college like this motherfucker, bro. In a good way, in a bad way. Great way. Tell me. No, because if people don't know what I'm talking about, I'll tell you off here. But let me tell you something. This is a college that whatever you spend in is worth it. It was to the point where one of the, because we was on the tour, like, you know, you do the tours. Three. It was like three families. So it was me, my daughter, my wife, another couple and their daughter and another couple and their daughter. And at some point, man, one of the guys looks around and goes, well, when the fuck did they go to class? Like, like, that's the problem. I got all this shit on campus. That's the way. What the fucking classrooms, yo, like, that's the issue, like, God damn. But that's the issue. Like, I was thinking, yo, I'm just sitting there walking around like if I knew that some shit like this existed when I was young. I probably would have wanted to go to college, bro. It's the amount of shit that we had on our campus was crazy. What'd you go? What do you see? Santa Barbara. But you got this. The gym, every sport you could ever imagine access to whatever you could possibly think all for free. And you wonder why you're spending all these money examples of access to just, just any, any sport you could imagine that you could play. There's like an organized version of it. So from beach volleyball, regular basketball, tennis, soccer, I mean, what, what, what, what is, what could you, like, my school is literally on the beach. Like, you looked at the ocean from the classrooms. Okay, give me more. What would you want? Yeah. Is there like, venting? Was there? Oh, I'm sure there was versions of it growing. Yes. I'm sure. Yeah, imagine a luxury resort on a, on a, on a, on a beautiful island. And the resort wants to keep you on the island. So it would have all these fine dining restaurants. And yeah, we just had like mess halls. Yeah. Yeah, I gotta tell you off. It's, I've never seen no shit like this. But this is why I cost $100,000 a year to go to this school. And that's all I care about. After about halfway, I'm like, how much does it cost? Yeah. How much does this shit cost? Yeah. Right? I was like, a time share. They show you all the good stuff first. Oh, my God. And it was, I mean, it's a me like, I mean, they give you like, you pull up and they got, they got the kids' names on Marquis. Yes. That are just visiting like, and why? And then there's, she ain't no playing on balls. She ain't no ball playing. You know what I'm saying? Oh, you just, you really, give me that in the cookies. They gave us these cookies at the end. I told the guy, I said, man, beyond just you, the cookies might have really done it. I had them. I said, tell me what the fuck you got. Where they were crooting your daughter for. This is just you going to go to this school. Drag a little. Visit. Wow. Tell me when, tell me what the fuck you got these chocolate cookies. And he told me. And they only sell them by the bulk.
- And I bought them. - What? - I had to. - What'd you think? - Incredible, even at the house. 'Cause they come in the fucking cookie dough and you bake 'em. - No, my eyes will say it, fuck it. Oh, what's the shit car, oh, this spunk in my ear? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a, that's a, but that's a regular cookie. That's like-- - I never had a regular cookie. - That's subway. - Subway is cookie. - Nah, nah, nah. - That's-- - Yeah, oh. - Subway got the oldest spunk in my ear, yeah. - Subway got the oldest, I used to love subway cookies. - That's why you loved 'em. - Yo, oldest. I don't know who the fuck you are. oldest is no. So, the oldest spunk in my ear is incredible, yo. And you can order 'em by the vote. And they come and you throw some little cookie shit. I never had 'em before, man. And I'm a chocolate chip cookie connoisseur. I never had the oldest spunk in my ear, bro. So y'all been having this shit all the time? I never told me. - We told you, subway. - No, nah, nah, nah, nah, fuck with somebody cookies, but oldest spunk in my ear, chocolate chunk. - Yeah. - Whoa. - Yeah. (laughs) - Whoa. - That's fine. - Whoa, whoa, whoa. - Whoa is right. - Whoa. - Can you tell me why you walked off this CNN election special to go to the best? - I exactly, you know, all these cookies. That's the best. - Did it, what happened? - Here's the thing. Did you notify them you were going around? - Yes, man, listen, this is the thing. They asked me to do the CNN election special on election night. I really can't believe this became a story. But I'm gonna tell you what really pissed me off. It should set star liberal walks off much hype, CNN election special to go to bed. Y'all make up your fucking mind, which y'all want me to be. Okay, my undercover magna are my motherfucking stars. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I don't know if it's because you be with Andrew. Well, first of all, me and Andrew, we know the fuck has for 13 fucking years. Like, what the fuck are y'all talking about? We've been doing this part for 13 years, bro. What the fuck? I'm telling you, people are not used to any nuanced conversation. - No, but now everybody's dick riding us. - But hold it with this thing and then shit. - Now everybody's saying the exact same shit we've been saying for two years, never get crazy. They roasted me last week for simply saying, I think Democrats have lost this shutdown. - Bro, they have no leverage. - And now everybody's saying the exact same thing. Literally, every talking point for the last two years, every single criticism of the DEMS we've had for the last two years is now common knowledge within the Democratic Party. It's common knowledge within the Democratic political pundits. It's the exact same shit we've been saying for two years, which they've been calling me Maga4 and you Maga4. - For the exact same shit. - They don't know what the fuck I am. They're Maga, I'm Libra, I'm a grifter. All I'm simply saying is common fucking shit. I watched this whole shit last week. - Now they gotta pay us. - I'm like, this shit been going on. It's the longest government shutdown in history. I'm like, Republicans have zero reason to budge. They got everything they want in the big, beautiful bill. What, why would they ever make concessions with Democrats? So I'm just like, and I'm looking at all of these federal workers who are calling the radio station, who I'm meeting at the food banks. Imagine being a federal worker. You've never been on those snap or no food aid ever in your life. Now you gotta come down to the food bank to get groceries 'cause you ain't even paid in 40 days. I really think that some people speak from such a position of privilege that they don't know that 67% of the country lives paycheck to paycheck. And when you miss one check, that shows everything fucking off. Literally not getting paid for 40 days could have a person evicted. You know what I mean? People I know that I'm beginning to eviction notices 'cause the landlords don't give a fuck. I don't care about the government shutdown. You're like, "I got bail soon." Give a fuck, yeah. The fucking child care, people literally, I know people that have to take their children out of child care. And you know what pisses me off the most? A lot of you motherfuckers that are saying shit, like holding line, holding line, holding line. Have you done anything to help these federal workers? Have you done anything to help these, you know, these food banks? - My God, right. So I was in the position of they should have held out and literally today I was at the food bank for NYC, giving out and broken down to, I'm broken four federal workers that are out and that alone convinced me. You know what it was talking about? - By the way, hold on, say that again. You said it was for federal workers. - For federal workers. - How long was the line? - Bruh, we were there from 11 to one nonstop. That convinced me. I was like, "Oh, okay." - I went through the airport in (beep) this weekend. I'm going through the fucking security. One of the test agents throws the plastic bin. Right? You can just tell with this frustrated, do it. And one of the other test agents said, "I'm telling you, I don't give a fuck, I'm not getting paid no way. How the fuck can you not feel for these people?" - And people think it's over and they still haven't got paid. - No, they still ain't got paid yet. Now they are getting their back pay, allegedly. They're supposed to be getting their back pay. - Yeah, but it still has to pass through the house and Trump has a sign. So technically we're still in the shutdown. - And when I spoke to somebody-- - And is it going to pass the house? - Mostly. - Yeah, more like. When I spoke to somebody in the Democratic Party about two weeks ago, they said to me verbatim. They said, "Pending a shutdown on any issue around the ACA was a foolish idea." - What? - Because-- - Affordable Care Act. - Affordable Care Act. Because number one, the Republicans got everything they want in the big, beautiful bill, right? And also, you have Republicans who have made whole careers opposing the Affordable Care Act. So why would they all of a sudden flip and do anything in support of it? Like they always fall in line. And if this fuck-o-bomacare is fuck-o-bomacare and it's gonna be fuck-o-bomacare until eternity, until they come out with Trump care or whatever, which will last you. - Bless you. - God damn, what the fuck? - You need some God damn Affordable Care. Fuck you. Where you got snot all in your fucking mustard? God damn. - It's hard, dude. - I feel like I got to wash my hands. That's what I should do with my mother fucking sanitize it, man. That was a COVID scene, bro. - No, I'm getting over. I was sick for like two weeks almost. - God, but at least you got mother fucking health care. Why are you acting like this is my fault? - It's not. (laughing) - Fuck was that a foul. Why are you saying like the fuck you least you got health care? What is it got to do with me? - All I'm saying is, man, it's fucked up that people got to choose between being sick and starving. - Yeah, I know. - We shouldn't even be in that place in America. America should be, the basics should be food, clothing, shelter, health care. That should be the basics for everybody. But sadly, people got to make a choice. And my thing is if Republicans weren't going budging, we knew they weren't. Why keep the government shut down and just cause double triple the suffering? - I think the reason for it is there are more Republican constituents using SNAP. And so eventually, if Dems held out long enough, then Republicans have to hear from their constituents, then it's like, you know, maybe we are forced to budge and give them something so we can know Republicans, you know the Republicans don't give a fuck about? - I understand. - They're constituents. - I understand, but. - 'Cause not only was it a government shut down. Trump went and said, make sure they don't get their SNAP benefits. That's just cruel, bro. - Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what? - There are years worth of funding available for the SNAP program. Our tax dollars that we have already paid to the federal government to facilitate this program and the Trump administration deleted this language from the website this morning. They are hiding the fact that not only is there more than enough funding to pay these benefits that we have already paid our tax dollars into, but that there was contingency language to ensure that even in the event of a government shut down that SNAP would go uninterrupted. The Trump administration and the Republicans supporting him are using food as a political weapon. - He made it, oh, let me look it up. Let me say the right thing, I don't know, I don't know. - So there's like a fund that, like an emergency fund that they have, if a situation like this worked to happen where people, they can still pay the SNAP benefits out and the Trump was like, nah, we're not gonna tap into this fund. - Yes, Supreme Court allowed Trump administration to temporarily withhold some SNAP payments for November. So that's just cruel. On top of everything else that's going on to be like, nah, withhold the SNAP payments, God damn. Like, what the bug? So it's just like, yo, man, for me to get on the air and say that last week, that's just common sense. I'm speaking for the people, the federal workers, I'm speaking for the people I know not getting this. - Okay, so can you break this down for me? So, and then hold on, a week ago, when the Democrats do exactly what I knew they were going to do all along, now people mad at Democrats, which I think is ridiculous because Democrats do a Hail Mary on behalf of the American people. - So yeah, that's fine. - They knew that they had no shot in hell if they did it anyway. - So that's why I wanna break this down. Okay, so this is about passing the big, beautiful bill. - Yes. - Okay, so they're trying to get this big, beautiful bill passed. - No, it's path already. - Okay, so then what is this specific vote about? - They were trying to get the-- - Oh, I'm sorry, not the big bill, sorry. big bills.
bills pass or they were holding out because they wanted the ACA. But this is renewing the budget. Like so every year that they have to vote on the budget or whatever they were trying. What do you mean? Yes. That's what this is about. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. So they kept the government shut down because they were trying, they want to get the ACA, the extensions on the ACA subsidies. Yes. Okay. Sorry. Not in maybe a big beautiful bills pass. But yeah, changes in the big beautiful bill is what affected triggered these other things. Yeah, the subsidies. So what they were trying to do is hold up, they being, I imagine, the Democrats, they were trying to make sure that the ACA subsidies works. Yeah. That the ACA subsidies work. And so what they were doing is holding up the passing of the budget. Yep. Yes. In order to leverage that change that they wanted. Yes. Yes. Which feels benevolent, right? Because it's like, we want to help out these people who are going to see their health care premiums beyond righteous cause because people, people's health care premiums are going to skyrocket. Some people are just going to lose their health care all together. Like it's a, it was, they were on the right side of history. And then can you explain to me why health care is so impacted by this? Why is the government, why is the government subsidizing health care in such a way? Have they, have they always? And not always, but it's just, it's so expensive. Like, health care costs have risen so much that you have to raise premiums for insurance companies to make money. And regular people can't afford this increase. So the government is subsidizing that increase. So I guess what I'm trying to understand is like our insurance companies taking advantage of the fact that the government with a sure bottomless bank account, I'm sure to subsidize. And if they are doing that, how can we effectively keep people on health care? But attack these insurance companies that are essentially like being greedy. That's what I was, I was talking to one of my, I was talking to one of my homies last week, and they were telling me about this procedure that they got to get. And the procedure without insurance is literally like $150,000 in some shit, right? There's some other shot that they got to get that's in the 10s of $10,000. I'm like, yo, this got to be some form of price gadget. There's no way this shit costs this. This is the same thing when it comes to universities for kids. The idea is, if the government is going to back loans, student loans, no matter what, the universities can charge really whatever they want because you need to get a college education if you want to be part of the workforce. And that college education is guaranteed backed by the government. So there is no real incentive to not do it, right? The second somebody might say, and I don't necessarily want this, but like somebody might say, oh, if we just remove this like endless bank account for your degree, for example, you wanted to get a degree in poetry. That's your right. Yeah. But we're not going to give you $300,000 in soon loans to get a degree in poetry because you might not be able to get a job that's going to be able to pay that back. All the sudden, a degree for poetry might come down. There are arguments that will poke holes in this. I'm sure there are negative aspects to it as well. But the idea being, if you prop up whatever the cost of something is, greedy people will find a way to charge more for it so that you will pay for it. Simple as that because you know you will. So there's a part of me here where it's like the insurance companies must be culpable and they must understand that these subsidies will go pay these rates. So they must be spiking rates knowing full well that the government is going to step in and pay because they don't want to leave their people uninsured. I mean, you're right, though. The insurance company's all culpable. That's why you see motherfucking, you know, manjony. Exactly. So is there a version? And again, like I'm ignorant. It's all the stuff. But like, is there a version where, okay, we've passed this. You can get the government workers their food, their pay. I think that you make a great point where there's like a lot of these like privileged rich pricks talking on TikTok and social media that like literally don't know a single person that is a government worker that is working paycheck to paycheck. And they're just like, hold the line. Hold the line. It's like, yeah, that's for you to say you talking to a fucking phone for a living. You know, some of that actually is a job and a family that they rely on that paycheck every single fucking week. And at least I hate when they go, you know, we got to make sacrifice every struggle required sacrifice. Sure. Yeah, you, you first, you first, you first, you sacrifice. I like being a TikTok pundit. I hate that shit. Yeah, I mean, by the way, I understand the logic of it all. I don't, but also to where's the plan? I don't understand logic. If you're going to shut the whole government down, how about have something in place for your constituent? So, so here's no federal workers are going to be impacted. So here's no people that don't get snappable be impacted. How about have something in place? So remember that guy that gave down 130 million, even though that was legal. Yeah, get out 130 million. Where's that for your face? Yeah. So here's the, here's the thing I'm wondering. It's like, why don't you just pass it, right? So these people that work for our government, the people that work in these thankless jobs don't have to suffer in their family so I have to want you to pass it. And then knowing full well that Republicans also don't want their constituents as you said, I think more of them are on the Obamacare and res, oh, sorry, more of them are snapped. So more of them are receiving snap benefits. I don't know where they are with the Obamacare, but like they too are incentivized to make sure that their people have health insurance and that they have food, right? Yeah. So like, why don't you after passing it, then work on a bill that will meet the demands of both parties. It seems like there's going to be a lot of bipartisan support there, no? No, not, not, not in this day and age. And that really? No. You think the Republicans will starve their own people? Yes. Interesting. Just do it. This is not our grandparents Republican. Okay, they just did. Yeah, they just, they just did it. I will say you'll probably see some, well, Republicans have had eight years to come up with their own health care plan and haven't done it yet. Well, are they just in the pockets of big health care? Yes. Well, so we're done. Let's also talk about this. This is the same lobbying shit. It's like everybody wants to talk about APAC all the time. It's like, yeah, talk about APAC, but also talk about these fucking medical lobbies that are doing the same exact thing taking advantage of American people. And he gets what all of those lobbies should have came out of pocket, the fucking pharmaceutical lobbyists, the pro-Israel lobbyists, the real estate lobbyists, oh, dims. I want to shut shit down. Y'all got a dig deep and get what's the money for these motherfucking federal workers and these people that don't have a, that don't have snap benefits. That's actually a fire thing. That's how you could have kept it open, kept that repulsive with the budget. They wouldn't have budged, but you could have at least made an effort and show that you're looking out for your people. You got to have a plan. Everybody talks about going to war. Where's the fucking war plan? Well, when you hate the billionaires, who's going to pay for it? Oh, you want to talk about that? I want to read yours Thursday. As soon as I see this shit going down with the airline, I go, oh, this should be over in a couple of days. There's always corporate interest over the interest of the people. Yeah, because we don't want to have a bad travel holiday season. We want people spending money. This is where they're black. When they're black. When they're black, they start hearing airlines, they're gonna be fucking losing tens of millions of dollars a day. Oh, yo, yo, I don't know what the fuck they is. When they start calling the powers that be like, I'm gonna get this shit fucking right back open. And what happened? They did that over the weekend. Over the fuck. That's quick. Yo, the airline started acting up on Thursday. They stayed the weekend to get that shit right. And that is interesting. Get the fuck out of here. It's always going to be corporate interest over the interest of the people in America until the people motherfucking stand up until we just get the money out of politics. It's very simple. Yeah, that ain't happening. Why not? It could, but it ain't to go into words that people are opening their eyes and they're like creating lists for any politicians that take lobby money. They're not going to both. Well, y'all ain't voting. You're only voting. No, there's gonna be some politicians that run and don't take money from big. I got to see it to believe. I'm not saying that it can't happen. I just got to see it to believe it. I really got to see it to believe. But by the way, that means that it's going to be a billionaire that motherfucking doesn't need the money. That don't need the money. Then you didn't just what then what? Like that's the other tricky thing about the billionaire stuff is like these politicians making billionaires the bad guys, you know, saying that they got to pay their fair share when they know damn well that like billionaires exist outside of the tax code. So it's like you really saying we're gonna tax them. We're gonna get them to pay their fair share. But like you know that the tax code itself doesn't have any way to actually tax them. They're making capital gains money. They're not actually making income. They're taking loans out against their stock. And then they're writing off the interest on the loans, you know, as a loss against whatever money they do make like the tax code didn't plan on their being billionaires. So they don't have a way to like fairly tax. That's funny to shit when you think about it. They're like somebody might have 60 horses. I mean it won't happen. There's no life. God damn. So it's this it's this weird thing where it's like they've become the scapegoats. They've become the bad guys. But there's no actual way where you could tax them the way you want. So you know who you end up taxing? You end up taxing the doctors. You end up taxing the lawyers. You end up taxing all these people. I mean us obviously included on one ag. We're not scape you know, but like you end up taxing all these people that you don't intend to and you tax them more and then the billionaires still don't get tax. But you use them as a boogie man. You use them as the bad guy where it's like why don't you communicate to your constituents that the billionaires exist out of the tax code. The tax code is based on tax taxing income and they don't make income anymore. They've they've so much money that they don't need income and that you have to find a new way to extract wealth from them because all you're doing is putting the burden on that tax on the doctors and the lawyers and entertainers some of us and this group of people is going to pay more
more because this group of people that you've been rallying against isn't gonna change at all. Right? Like, - No, that makes sense. You know, the billionaire thing is so interesting because I don't think billionaires are inherently bad. I don't believe that whole logic above. - What? - Because they're even billionaires. - Charlemagne, they're like net worth. - It's like they got a billion dollars on paper. Like the art assets and stocks and stuff like that. - It stocks. So like the evaluation of your company is, you know, four billion and you own 50% of it. So you have two billion dollars, but like do you have two billion dollars? Like do you actually have it? - I don't know. - Like some of them, yes. - Because you can get loans to have that one. - Yeah. - No, I'm not saying that they don't, but my point is that like, something catastrophic had happened tomorrow and then you have nothing. Where is like. - They can sell their stuff. - But someone got to buy it. - But you always, you know, and it's like who's gonna buy a company that's what they always do when you see them lose a bunch of money as you lose, 'cause like they lost a bunch of stock. - Yeah. - That's what I'm saying. - There are billionaires. There are like the real people who actually have homes and shit worth billions of dollars. Like real estate around the world. Like these families do exist. But what we think of billionaires, a lot of these people that own these like stocks that have skyrocketed 200% over the last like five years, are they? Yes, they are. How are you gonna tax them? Like they're not taking that money out from the stock market. - So I would say or, and I feel that a lot of billionaires are, I wouldn't say necessarily bad people, but they're doing bad things like. - I don't believe that. I don't believe that. - So if you're worth it. - So much like a Bezos or like the Walmart billionaires or whatever, if you're worth that much, that means the company's worth that much. That means you can afford to pay your employees more. - Okay, you're complaining two things. You're right. What I was gonna say prior was, people always say that billionaires have to do bad things to get to where they are. But I do agree that if you have a super multi-billion dollar company, pay your motherfucking workers a livable wage. A livable wage. - If you're actively not doing that. - I agree with that. - I agree with that. If you're a multi-billion dollar company, pay your fucking workers a livable wage. But I don't think that people become billionaires. I don't think people become billionaires just because they did bad things. Some people become billionaires 'cause they created something that became a necessity for people. Like, just Steve Jobs? Did he not deserve to be a billionaire? We can't stop using these motherfuckers right now. - Yeah, yeah. - You know what I'm saying? Like, does Elon Musk not deserve to be a motherfucking? - The issue-- - But the multi-billionaire? - The issue isn't billionaire. Like billionaire is just like this holding term. It's not about billionaire. It's about their people that exist outside of the tax code. And you would rightfully want them to pay their fair share or whatever the fuck it is. - You bet I think that's part of it, but also the practices of those billionaires. I think it kind of, it's fucked up. - Well, well, there's a moral issue. Like, I would imagine if these people are doing things that are illegal, then there would be some sort of justice for it. Now, could they do things, like for example, it is not illegal to pay somebody minimum wage. You would think if you're the most successful company in the world that you would pay your employees even more, but they're not doing something that is illegal, right? Like, you would think that that is the right thing to do and it's a good thing to do and it's a just thing to do, but they're not doing a thing that is illegal. That's what I said, where is like, we know that there's a lot of mom and pop places that like pay people less than that because they're making tips or whatever the fuck I got. So like technically, that's illegal, but they can't afford to do it. So what we're looking at is somebody that has like astronomical wealth and we're like, why aren't you treating people a little better? - Yeah. - And I'm sure those people would be like, well, the fuck I gave away $100 million to solve AIDS. Damn, what do you want me to do? You know, like in their mind, they're like, nobody gives away more money than me. How can these motherfuckers want more than that? And I think we're sitting there probably going, why don't you give that money to the people who work for you so they can feel like they're making more? - I had a woman say that to me, man. And I thought it was so silly. I posted about how, you know, Little Duval provided 35,000 meals in Jacksonville. I posted how Tyler Perry did the 1.4 million organizations that, you know, like food banks for people that don't have some of the benefits, and I did it like a carousel with, you know, the 400,000 plus meals I did in New York. And a woman in the comments said, why don't you just give us that money in our pockets? Nobody wants to go stand in line at a food bank. Like, God damn. - Yeah. - It's like, what the fuck? No, that don't even make no sense. - Yeah. - No, I would rather help provide what a mass amount of people need as opposed to going around giving people cash 'cause the cash, I don't have enough cash. I can use that cash to provide more meals in groceries for people than I could going around just actually handing people cash. If I hand people cash, I might help 10 people. - Listen, there's another food bank, you help 100,000. - There's another thing where it's like I don't, and again, I don't know, but like, if you pay your employees more, your company is less profitable, which I imagine would affect the valuation of your company. - Not in companies like Apple and fucking Apple. - I know, yes it will. - I think it would too. - Amazon? - Yeah. - I think making less profit. - These guys are paying, they're not even paying taxes. You understand what I'm saying? So if they're not even paying taxes. - He makes you a point too, which is like, if Amazon can make it look like they don't make any money, at the end of the year, and maybe profiting isn't important. Again, I don't know. But like, I agree with you. Maybe they feel like I can impact the world in a better way if I'm donating $100 million. But there's also a version where like, a lot of people do that shit as a shield. It's like, if you got billions of dollars, people hate you. So you've got to do some nice shit. Some other fuckers go, all right, listen, we hate 'em 'cause he's rich, but he does, you know, provide this for all these people. And he did try to solve the mosquito disease. - You gotta be a compassionate capitalist. Would you wanna be a billionaire? - No, I have no interest. - I got asked that question recently. Well, I didn't get asked. Somebody introduced me as that. Like I was doing an interview. - Put it this way, it's not a goal. - Yeah, it's not a goal. - It doesn't mean anything to me for me. It's not a goal. - There's a number where like, I don't have to work and I can maintain the lifestyle I really like. And like, that's to me, the goal. - Numbers have never been my goals, yo. - That's good. - It's always wanting to do something. Like, I have goals of things that I want to do. It's never like, I want to be a billionaire. I want to make a hundred million. It's never been that. Now, when you get put in certain positions and you start making certain investments and somebody tells you what you could make, you start thinking like, oh, that, you know what I mean? But it's not like, like, I want it. What's that song? I want to be a billionaire, so fucking bad. I never, that's never been my mindset. But I did an interview recently and somebody introduced me as a future billionaire. And I said, from your mouth to God's is, but then when I thought about it later, I'm like, I would never be a billionaire, probably. - Yeah, that's it. - Because I would, I personally, I like seeing multiple people getting money. So I wouldn't want to hoard all of that wealth. If I got a billion dollars, I want to create like a thousand millionaires in, you know what I mean? And when it comes to, yeah, philanthropy, I'd be giving a lot of it away. Like, you know what I mean? You make sure your kids are good for the future. You know, hopefully their kids can be good off what you, you know, leave for them. But everything else is like, share the wealth, bro. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? Like, I agree. Now don't be, you know, if you got a product that's just making you billions, it's not like, I'm gonna be like, "Oh, no, stop." You know what I mean? No, I don't want it. Like, that's just stupid. But I would still be just an amazing philanthropist. Like, that's shit that fucking Jeff Bezos wife be doing. And that shit is amazing. - What, X-White? - X-White. - Yeah. - Oh my God. Like, giving hundreds of millions of dollars, the HBCU, that's fly. - That's crazy. - Why is it crazy? - That's crazy. - Why is it crazy? - No, it's not. It's just crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. - That massage and you fly. Why is it cool? Yeah, I know it's making it cool. - Nothing massage, she built the company with him. - She did. - That's right. - She was there from like, day one, no bullshit. - That's right. And that's what people don't talk about enough. - And they should. - Yes. - Good woman helped you build a great company. That's why I had to get rid of her because she was given too much fucking money away. Well, you can't build a real company when you've got some lady trying to give hundreds of millions of dollars away. Every single fucking day, she's like, how am I supposed to build this business? How am I supposed to go to the moon when she's trying to give away the rockets? This is going to start to give away a rocket. Every single day, I'm trying to go to the moon. - I know it. - What? - I know it. - I know it. - It's true and you know it's true. - No, when I know it's true. - When I said it, the first thing that pops in your head is massaging it. - Me? - But you didn't say nothing. You let the cocktail mix. - I do like the mix of cogs. - You let the cocktail mix. - I do like to make a little marketing, that's crazy. - That's crazy. - That's crazy. - And then once that shit was ready to go, then I took that shit up, poured it over the ice, gave it to you, you know what I'm saying? - Got you a little drunk, like that girl giving away a hundred millions of dollars. (laughing) - Yo, but listen, that's fly it up. That's fly it, it is our money. And I hope that she gets the appreciation she deserves. - Well, I do think it's a little different because I don't think people see it as her money. I think they see it as her giving away Jeff's money. - I wish I knew her, what's her name? - Look. - That's the first part of getting her to ready this she deserves. Not calling her Jeff Bezos, is why. - And we don't even know her name. - I think it's McKinsey. - I think it's Melissa. - No, I think it's McKinsey. I think it's McKinsey. - Yep, McKinsey Scott.
you know shout out to you Mackenzie she married a teacher in the name divorced no yeah she got remarried yeah then they divorced you got to have I don't think you got to thank him thank you's a lot to teach him one of them HBCU shut the fuck up yeah do me a favor man hey do me a favor hey excuse me South Carolina state is that a yeah Mackenzie what you doing yo I'm gonna talk a lot of state need 20 what's up I've got a lot of state take can you take all my man talk a lot of state need 20 listen but I didn't I even I walked off to stand in but I told them I was leaving is that where this started yes holy shit I told them I was leaving guys like I they knew I was leaving I was only going to be there for hour and then I tagged in Tesla and figure row and I was out look at them trying to podcast well everybody look at that a podcast man I saw I saw something that somebody wrote that was so funny but it's a he said that CNN had a relax set with like arcades and pool tables and stuff but it was like nobody ever got up from the chase and it's true like who's designing this shit where they got to put the arcades in the back like I like do I look like I play arcade yeah there's Ben should pair look like he fucking plays okay you guys are all 100 years old talking about politics why the fuck you got a Capcom game in the background now drinks I'm all four did we all sippin on something I didn't but drink some all four but didn't you sip on something I don't know you know sometimes you gotta sip I didn't want to sip I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know probably could I have to get up in the fucking morning yeah discipline baby discipline shout out the big test the hood whisperer oh man loop test what else we got Alex test you want to pay some bills show so you got these church announcements man yeah you know what I am gonna do I'm gonna do a show up in road islands this not until next year march but they just think tickets are on pre sale right now promo code is Andrew maybe they'll be on sale by the time you see it but yeah let me go look up the exact thing there's a Rhode Island comedy festival and I love Rhode Island yeah Rhode Island school where did you go up there I'll be going to Rhode Island for my daughter's cheerleading competitions I go to Rhode Island probably like once a year March 28th Providence Rhode Island the Providence Performing Arts Center as part of the this Rhode Island comedy festival we did not go to we did not go to Rhode Island last tour one of the most underrated food cities in America really road fucking Island because they got all the the seafood right underrated food so they also got all the Italians hold on it's a biscuit spot I like out there with hold on Rhode Island biscuits I shouted them out to I think I shouted them out here and it was super happy with the name of that spot it's a biscuit place bro fuck I can't remember the name of that is it irregardless it's a biscuit sandwich shot hold on you should go there when you go to biscuits are so good I don't remember the name of it oh no it is there you go yeah airy godless airy godless airy godless bro they got they serve biscuits bro they got like all of these different biscuits sandwich oh yeah this is definitely this spot airy godless 94 coverage discrete Providence Rhode Island very underrated food placement they got these dope ass African restaurants out there yeah Rhode Island I'm telling you Rhode Island is very slept on when it comes to food very nice we're gonna do it that salute the Rhode Island my church announcement oh man what's her a two-chains book the voice in my head is god go pre-ordered at our senior hall book um called our senior go pre-ordered at just hilarious book um tell deft of we pan go pre-ordered at please all courtesy of black friendly publishing Simon and Schuster thank you also share them a kid's tag book man the black family who built America that's available uh everywhere you buy books now too what else we got Alex ooh the email has been released click on this bro this shit is damning house democrats released alleged Jeffrey Epstein emails that reference president Donald Trump can't lie this is the this is the first time in a long time Jeffrey Epstein were probably called Trump the dog that hasn't barked what did that mean oh no you know come I thought the I thought the allegation was that Trump knew about him the why here's the wild thing there's a uh I gotta go get it well he said he said in 2011 in the email Epstein went on to state that an alleged victim spent hours at my house with him he has never once been mentioned what does that fucking mean I don't I don't well give me some cliff notes it's not from shade room give me exclude the shade room give me pull up something I can read what the fuck of going on quickly but I gotta say this has been a great couple of weeks for democrats let's see what they do with it because don't think that it's a coincidence that someone as they agree to the default for a shot the government to rebe reopen this helps me email drops don't think it's the fucking coincidence sorry acted though why would they be sending emails about this shit sometimes you know no I don't think the emails about this but I think that like there was there was an email I think there was sent in 2014 where like Epstein's just saying all the people that are going to be there and I believe in 2009 if I'm not mistaken he was convicted of the uh sex charge with the minor right they just said the Trump administration just held a situation room meeting US lawmakers have released 22,000 pages of documents from Jeffrey Epstein's estate including some of that reference Donald Trump democrats on the house oversight committee released three small free email exchanges before Republicans released a much bigger was that trance trance say it was a tea was a trance a trance what's a trance like a bunch what's that the shit between your ass and your fucking is that like another name for a good no trance is this like I think a bunch of emails one of the three exchanges released by democrats is between Epstein a convicted sex offender who died in 2019 into the sociogen lane Maxwell an email from Epstein to Maxwell in April 2011 reads I want you to realize that that dog that hasn't barked is Trump victim spent hours at my house with him the White House says the unnamed victim referenced is Virginia who fray who free who repeatedly say president Trump was not involved in any wrong doing whatsoever she killed herself recently oh the name of Virginia also appears in an unre- in an unredacted version of the email released in the wider Gooch democrats say the emails crack a blow against the White House FDA cover up while Trump says the democrats are deflecting from how badly they've done on the government shut down don't think to be true guy no this is not good the question is does the american do the american people and I can't believe we're having this conversation did the american people still have the appetite for Epstein I could not fucking believe it there was that famous interview or something like that where Trump was like you guys still care about Epstein and like we were like yeah we all care about Epstein this is the thing that you guys said that you were gonna expose fucking finally and I mean I haven't heard a peep about Epstein this thing gets just get strapped I don't even know if they moved actually do it and here's my theory as to why talk to me here's an email in one of the Gooch's doesn't look like you're prioritizing your schedule very effectively some I think texting or emailing Epstein uh scheduled very effectively how are you going to manage all of this and that this is only week uh so the boss will be in town too I'll be here all week you may get sick of me just sat down on the train so can talk freely is that now what a train yeah uh uh so then here's something that was a response to this girl's question mark careful I will renew an old habit this week teal summers bill burns gordon brown jaglands who's the council of europe and noble chairman mongolia president hardy purie india boris gates jibore sultan dubai i guess coslin harvard leon black woody you're a welcome guess at any also if you think they're interesting people in town everyone here for climate summit clinton security council holy shit I'm on something for the next 30 minutes but I don't know if he's saying all those people he's interacting with or if they will be in town and that person can do it but to me it's like if he's interacting with those people and this is having 2014 when he's already a convicted pedophile why are you still engaging with somebody who's convicted that oh I felt but I feel like this is like a who's who listen but I feel like that for people on the world I feel like that we talked about that on bringing these before like right but he got convicted in oh nine right yeah I think so yes I don't say it so like why was anybody dealing with him after oh nine well yeah why do you have an office in harvard after oh nine that's what I'm saying like like like the shit never made any sense to me you asked a great question do people still have an appetite for Epstein it is it's interesting right because we knew I I said democracy never stop talking about Epstein but the zone got flooded so great son the calm zone got talk to me because I have I have theory something it just got flooded like you got flooded with you know I mean the government shut down definitely definitely flooded the zone you know 40 days of people not getting no paychecks the snap benefits like it was a lot of other things Also, what is the ice ray? Yes, what is the
- The discussion online, let's just be honest. What is the online discussion? Doesn't mean it's the mainstream discussion. Mainstream discussion is a little bit different. It's getting there, it's being pulled in the direction, but what is-- - I don't know, what is it? - The discussion online is right wing. It's the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, you know, they port noise doing a fucking pizza review and some guys yelling some shit at him. Like it's, and then the left wing is Israel, Israel. So it's like, they're almost touching at the tip right here that's the horseshoe theory people talk about, but that is what is dominating the online discord. - Really? - Jews and is online. - Yeah. - Mainstream, I mean like the biggest podcast, like the number on podcasts in the world right now where all people who are gonna specifically be talking harping on those things, like Candice Tucker, like that is the online discussion and it is moved away from Epstein. Epstein was a majority online discussion. Yes, people in the mainstream would talk about it a little bit but it wasn't as active as like-- - It was for a while. - Yes, yes. - Even mainstream it was for a while. - When he got, when he, when he-- - With a firm laugh itself, yeah. - No, no, no, I'm talking about this year. - Oh yeah. - Like it definitely was for a while, especially because everybody was like, "Why aren't they releasing a file, 100 releasing a file?" - When Caspatel changed his tune on, on Rogan, the mainstream picked it up but I think they picked it up as a way to get a win on Trump, right? It's like, yo, you ran on exposing this in Drey and the swamp now looks like you're covering it up. So, but again, to me that's an online discussion. - Yeah, I'm definitely covering it up. - So it's like, for me I'm looking at the online discussion and seems like the obsession right now is either with Jews or Israel online and I'm curious if that has, if there's room there for Epstein. If they can tie Epstein to Israel, 100% there's room. - They did, yo, you ain't see this shit huh? - I know, there was the-- - Everyone. - Oh, I was like, what the fuck, you know what I'm talking about? - He had the spy staying at his house. - What the fuck, yo, who was this guy, yo? - Yeah, so he had the Israeli spy who was working under a Hubert Rock staying at his house. - Yeah, and he helped Israel sell a surveillance state to like an African nation, right? - Yeah, what is this shit, coat d'avis? - Got a coat d'avis. - Leaked email showed a detailed behind talks between coat d'avis and Israel, shepherded by the HUD baroque and Jeffrey Epstein. - Who the fuck was this guy, yo? - Epstein. - Yeah, so he was the ultimate facilitator. That's what I think it is. It's like, this guy knew all the riches and wealthiest people. And then the rich and wealthy want to do business with other rich and wealthy. - This type of shit, bro. - Well, that's-- - You don't let your fucking ecstasy deal a fucking help Israel sell a surveillance video to coat d'avis. - If you're somebody that worked in defense, right? And when you were in government, and now you're out of government, what's your expertise? What's you gonna do for a living? You're not gonna work in insurance. You're gonna work in defense. You low sell that bitch to other countries that need it, right? So who do you do to get connected to those people? Oh, this finance here that for whatever reason has all these connections, I don't know. But it is very damning to look at this thing and be like, why is there a known spy staying at your house and why are you coordinating deals on behalf of a foreign government? Now, what the defense would probably say is, why can't he connect people? Why can't he facilitate things for friends? Are you allowed to have friends in other countries and allowed to do things on their behalf? Is that illegal? Does that mean that you're also a spy? That's what they would say. But this is the type of stuff that's coming out and this is the question that people will have. Will they be interested in this thing? I personally think they should. I would like some fucking justice for these girls. But the internet seems to be so singularly obsessed with one fucking conversation right and left. They just frame it a little differently. The right frames of Israel, sorry, the right frame, left frames of Israel, the right frames of Jews. But until they are able to move off of that, like the left pretends to care about, like the mainstream left talks about ice. The mainstream right talks about immigration, right? So it's like, the mainstream media talks about-- It's always a versus. Right, it's like, it's two sides of the same coin, but they're not getting at what the online conversation is. And I'm sure that they're a little concerned to have that online conversation because that shit is radioactive. I think most of these conversations start online. Well, they do. And it takes time for the mainstream to be able to access what's going on there because they've got to look through like 40 different lenses. Like, should we amplify this? Can't you avoid this? No, no, no. I think that's all they do now. Yeah. I don't think nothing, like everything literally starts on social media for the most part. You can be watching television and you'll see a tweet pop up, such as such just tweeted this or such and such just posted this on TikTok. Like, everything is reactionary to social media. Which is dangerous because that's where a lot of the bots live. That's where it's so easy to manipulate conversation. It's so easy to get different things trending and talk about next thing you know, mainstream is taking it and validating it in some way just by even having a conversation about it. This is what we were saying about the Riyadh comedy festival, right? Which is like, for a week, everybody was talking about it. Literally two weeks go by, nothing. Now Mr. Beast is building a water park out there, not a single peep about it. Or not just Mr. Beast. They got the fucking women's basketball league. Oh yeah, yeah. So it's just like, no. Let's stay here for a second. You want to talk about the one with the basketball league? No, I want to talk about people's fake outrage over shit. Well, this is to what you're saying. It's like, and this is the concern. With mainstream media, the concern is that it can all be manipulated by the sponsors of the show or the people who own the mainstream media platforms, right? So if like, you're the pharmaceutical industry and you're sponsoring the show, you're not going to be making any jokes about pharmaceutical companies and you're not going to be making any jokes about, you know, getting people addicted to opioids, right? You're going to be quiet about that. They can put that leverage on. Or if you own the company and you have certain, you know, allegiances, you're going to make sure that those allegiances are taken care of, right? If you own the media company, right? But online, you can also fake the news through bots. You can also fake it through astroturfing, through fake comments. And you can make something feel bigger than it is. You can make it feel like it's an actual real story. When in reality, it's nothing. And nobody actually cares. I want to raise my three beautiful children in Carolina, Dr. Luke and Joaquin. That's time. Stand up. Can you get a podcast? No, that was just, yeah. But one thing that's a little bit strange is that, like you just said online, one side talking about Israel, one side talking about Jews. That conversation is so loud. Why isn't mainstream media talking about? Well, they are. So, but, but they Jews in Israel? Yes. I feel like there. Oh, man, why are you screaming? Yes. I'm seeing it every night as a conversation. They're reacting to it. They're reacting to it, right? So, they're reacting to online conversation. They're reacting to Nick Fuentes on Tucker, right? Like, they're reacting. I thought that all that. They're reacting to Candace. Like, they're reacting to the online conversation, right? But these things start and exist online. And now the mainstream media apparatus is kind of like a reaction channel. It's fascinating to see. That's the perfect, you know, that is a perfect example. Like all of these mainstream networks are like reaction channels, literally, literally. I don't know any news that starts on the news anymore. And they try to frame stories that like, that they would rather talk about, you know? For example, like they would rather, the right would rather, the right, the mainstream right, or the neocons or whatever they are. It's like they would rather the issue be about immigration. So, they frame everything through immigration. This is so bad. Immigration is bad. And listen, we have had horrible immigration policies. I'm not saying that there isn't a justification to criticize for sure, but they need, they try to frame every, they want to frame the housing crisis through immigration, right? Because they don't want to just be like, it's the Jews, right? Like, so they're like, we can't let that happen. And then the left does the exact same thing. They're like, oh, look what they're doing in immigrants. Look what ICE is doing. This is, that's mainstream. But the online conversation, it ain't about that, really. I don't be. A little on the left with ICE. But mostly what I'm seeing is, I thought, would I be online, that's funny how algorithms work. When I'm online, all I see is ICE range. All I see is people capturing ICE range and showing what ICE is doing in all of these different cities all across. - Yeah, I think ICE exists on the left. I think ICE exists as a, as a talking, but no, ICE exists though. - No, no, meaning like, it exists as a talking point and a, and a leverage point against Trump. Like, it is one of those things that if you're trying to show like how dehumanizing Trump is, you go look what his administration is doing. - Shit, they be doing it. - Cray, they be Peppas brain, kids. Like the shit, I've seen them. You saw the guy that caught a seizure. - Yeah. - No, he was holding his infant in his hand. - Not sure. - He's holding his infant in his, I'm like, what is so, like bro, it can't be that serious. - So this is, so this is, listen, it's obviously horrific and fucked up when you see it. What I believe the administration's goal is, and it's not just through ICE, it's also through like blown up the boats from Venezuela. - That shit is great. - His little battleship game that he's been playing. - Yo, what Latino hurt that nigga, yo. - Son. (laughing) - I'm serious, I guess so. We gotta start asking some other questions, yo. What Latino hurt Trump, yo? - Yeah. - So, damn. - So what I think the strategy of the administration is essentially, we have to, we have to make it look too dangerous to even try to come here. So for example, they're, in my opinion, they're actually not trying to make ICE look humane. They actually, when people on the left are posting these videos of how inhumane ICE is, I think it's actually helping the right wing goal. - You know who said that before? - Like, I thought the same thing. And I thought that's why they're giving more funding and increasing the size of ICE because they're gonna have so much turnover by the ICE agents what they have to go through and they're gonna leave. - That's so said before, our president.
Jewish Asian Chris said that way. I'm talking about before Trump even got elected. He was like, it's going to be a show. He was like, it's because it's going to be a show. What they're basically people from wanting to come over here. And what they're basically trying to do is go look how horrible your life is going to be if you come here illegally. So in a way, when people on the left are like showcasing how horrendous this is and they're posting these videos and like, look how inhumane ice is, they're doing the media amplification for the Trump administration. The Trump administration is not going, hey, let's be really delicate and polite. They're like, no, we want to let you know you're not welcome here. And it actually is working right. I think they said like illegal water crossings are down to. I mean, we don't know because people don't raise their hands when they show up, but like they're much less. And I would imagine with the drug cartels thing, it's like, if you keep blowing up the ship at a certain point, the drug cartels either go, we can't risk this in terms of the drug getting caught because it's cost too much money. And then the drivers of the boats go, I'm not getting in the boat. They fucking blow up every single boat. Yeah, but you got to actually blow up drug cartels. Yes, they blowing up fucking fishermen boats. Well, that, that is, that is not true. There's no way. That's what they said. Those boats aren't making it to America. So it's like, if you're going to attack drugs coming into America, attack boats that are actually bringing drugs, bringing the drugs. Like, maybe they're bringing drugs to other places in Latin America, but from where they're leaving, those boats can't make it to America. They don't even make no sense. Well, they're basically, yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's what I'm saying. It's like, it don't make no sense. Do we know that for a fact? Yes, yes. That those boats cannot get, but do we know that those, I would imagine they can maybe refuel on the way or something? This is what I would imagine. Well, they've been debating, now, this is, they've been debating on mainstream news and they've been showing the videos. Yeah, it's like, it's, it's, it's, and they're, they're, it's kind of, it is kind of pointless what they're doing. And Pete, except can't show any real example of what it is that they're doing. So the reasoning for it, what I would say is that those boats, I imagine, are going from like a main place that has all the drugs, and then they disseminate them to a bunch of different places. And then some of those drugs are eventually going to make it to America, make it to other places too. So, maybe this is, and again, it looks like the administration's goal is deterrence. So maybe what they're trying to do is we're going to get it at the source. The second the drugs leave the shores of this place, we're blown it up. So don't even try to get drugs over here. I don't think that's an apple. I like, like, like, like, look at this, like, look at this headline from today, the game change, and they want to just control Venezuela and get to the oil. Like, no, that's a good point. I don't think they want it. That could be the, it could be regime change. New York Times, US military kill six inscrikes on suspected drug boats. This isn't, you're just killing suspected. So this isn't an interesting argument. Like, could they be trying to provoke Venezuela into acting back so that they could go in there and just effectively make the regime change happen? I don't know enough to even be saying about it. Like, either that or just framed them as, look at this bad country. They keep sending drugs that we have. But there's no proof that it's drugs on these boats. We need to change it. Because they got blown up. But you can't do that. But here's the thing, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's not a good point. I mean, that's not a good point. And then they would have a better argument. So listen, they're really, so they, so they, so you're saying for a fact that it is, it is known that there's no fence on these boats and there's some. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. The reader's e. None of us can say for a fact. Listen, listen, listen, listen, I'm a reader to you. The US military killed six people on Sunday and two more strikes on boats suspected of smuggling drugs in the Eastern Pacific Ocean. The Finnish Secretary of Piedex, that's announced on Monday. The latest strikes raised the death toll in the campaign, the 76 people in 19 attacks in the Pacific and the Caribbean seasons early December. And a post on social media, Mr. Hexf cited intelligence and included two short video clips of the bombings of two separate boats that he said were traveling along a known narco trafficking transit route in the Eastern Pacific. One of the boats appeared to be a four, be at full stop with two visible passengers and possibly with an outboard motor raised out of the water. The other was moving at high speed, but in neither case, we've heard this a million times. That Mr. Hexf provide evidence for his claim that the three men aboard each of the two boats were smuggling narcotics. He said the attacks took place in international waters. Every time one of these should happens, they never provide evidence. Okay, but they also haven't provided evidence that. Have you killed them, though? No, they haven't provided evidence that there was no drugs on the boats either. Yeah, come on. Like, that's not enough. All let me reason to attack somebody. Well, let me tell you why people say they're illegal. They say a wide range of specialists in laws governing the use of force have denounced the killings as illegal because the US military has not allowed to intentionally target civilians who pose no threat of imminent violence. Even though the suspected of being criminals, the Trump administration says their strikes are lawful because President Trump has determined the cartels, the United States is in a formal armed conflict with the cartels. What if you just out there fishing? And they just say, "No, that's a drug boat." Do y'all really believe that they're just blowing up fishermen in Venezuela? I think it's possible. Come on, y'all. Yes. This is where you lose the plot. This won't be the first time that the Trump administration has not measured twice the cut. Yeah, but this is where the same guy was using signal. Yeah, but this is where you lose the plot. Man, like, this is what's going to happen. What is the thing? To your point. It's like getting up set at Trump for renovating the White House. Like, there's always people who've never even been in the fucking White House. Well, listen to your point. We can't say that they're not either. I think it would be in the best interests of Hague Seth and the administration to prove that they're successful. That's it. That would be a very smart thing to do. That's the 100% lawful constitutional way of thinking. That's not lawful or constitution. It's definitely lawful because it says illegal. If what you're doing is right now is to accuse of being illegal. No, what I'm saying is, yeah, it's illegal. Like, just because they tell us doesn't make it lawful. Like, if you shoot-- No, they have to. You're both saying the same thing. Yeah, lawful, they have to do it. They have to provide evidence. No, no. Before. The lawful way they would do it before. There's no way that you can do that before. They're just shooting them with drones in the sky. But you're not even supposed to be doing that because these people don't pose any imminent threat. They're just-- You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but that's tomato. Because it's like if you're bringing fentanyl to the country, it's like that isn't imminent. Do you just blow up drug dealers though? I'm not saying that. I'm not arresting. I would do process. That's what I'm saying. No, there's no process. It is crazy. That's the other thing. If you know that somebody is bringing death to your country, you have to give them due process. Like, should we have due process Pearl Harbor? Like, do we go, "Okay, guys, land the plane so we could give you a nice little court date and we could figure out why you were trying to fly planes into Pearl Harbor?" No, you shoot the fucking planes out of the sky once you see that. That's an imminent threat that you know is coming to attack you. Right. That's not a guy in the-- And I'm gonna say, I don't-- Once again, I don't-- This is why these conversations get tricky. Because you like-- All right, if they are smuggling drugs, you think-- Yo, you look out of here. But I don't think you should kill 'em. Why do-- You don't have the death penalty for drug dealers here. Why would we have the death penalty for drug dealers? Because they're not from here. Very point out. Why-- You just say fucking because they're not from here? Yeah, that's crazy. You're gonna bring-- You're gonna bring death to our country and think that you're gonna not die for that? Yeah, sure. You're not bringing death to your bringing drugs. But he's just-- Oh, he's just being okay. No, I don't even-- I don't even-- If-- When that place starts going downhill-- [LAUGHTER] Hey, yo, Shultz is coming to hell. When I-- Listen, it can feel a socket lining. When I was growing up, my daddy had a cousin. Okay, named Rell. Rell was like kind of legally blind. But still with driving shit. And you could hear his truck coming down the road. Nobody tried to stop Rell from driving. It's like, hey, everybody get out the fuck-- Yeah, oh, what? That's it. Like, Shultz gets like, this is like, oh, all right, go. It's somebody's bringing destruction to your country. Don't-- You don't think that-- Oh, you can't say-- This is a marriage. Oh, I got to be-- You got to be specific. Put me in destruction. Got to raise destruction. If there was bitches bringing committee over here, you got to shoot them before they land. You got to blow up that boat, too. A hopeful of committee? No. You're going to let that land on the shores. You're going to bring them into the fucking courthouse and ask them. No. There's something else going on that we're not privy, too. Let's look. [LAUGHTER] There's something going on that we're not privy, too. I'm going to listen to the experts, okay? And I am always leery of people who just don't want to show evidence. No. Because my thing is this, if you ain't doing shit wrong, just show me. Exactly. It ain't that right. It ain't rocket science. If you're not doing anything wrong, then just show me you're not doing anything wrong. It's a regime change and oil. It's just funny to me that there are people that were happy Charlie Kirk got shot because they disagreed on opinions. And they're fighting for due process for people who are driving fentanyl into the fucking country. What the fuck do we live in? Why do we have more humanity for people who are actually profiting off of killing Americans? You shouldn't be like those people. What do I got to do? Don't become what you hate. What do you mean? I hate people trying to kill Americans. You hate people. Try to kill Americans. So if you try to kill a colleague, Charlie Kirk, or if you try to bring fentanyl in here, I hate both of y'all. Yeah, but you don't know of it.
trying to bring tranquility. - If they were trying to bring, I'd hope, I would celebrate them. - Well, here's the thing. I don't think-- - They might. - I know, I know. - Here's the thing. I don't think Charlie Kirk should have been killed, but, you know, his rhetoric, and I don't think that the people in these boats should be killed if they are illegally, or if they're smuggling drugs, right? But here's the thing. The only difference is, and I was about to say the only difference is one person committed to crime. Both of these people are allegedly committing crimes. If we believe the specialist, both, they're all crime. This stuff is not supposed to happen. - So what is the punishment for somebody trying to bring fentanyl into the country? - I would think you just run down on them and fucking arrest them. Don't they got what's the shit in the water? Don't they have a police-- - Water police. (laughing) - Coast guard. - Coast guard. - Yeah. - I would think, I don't know, I don't know. - We gotta put them, we gotta put them in jail here. - You lock them up. - So we gotta use taxpayer dollars and put them in jail here. - 'Cause you wanna know where the drugs are coming from? - Yeah. - Say again? - What do you wanna know where the drugs are coming from? - We know, we tracked the boat. - We don't know the drugs on the boat. - I think we know. - I don't think they know, bro. That's the whole point, that's what Laura said. - No, we gotta show how we know, but maybe the problem-- - That's all we say in shows, God damn it. - Well, that's all we say. - Well, we can't give away our intelligence. - Oh, thank you for coming. - Yo, we can't give away our intelligence. - It's on signal. - I guarantee you, you probably change the WhatsApp by now. People are probably gonna watch that by now. Just go to peach signal or WhatsApp and you'll know exactly what's going on. - I'm telling you, man, just let them play battleship. - No, we don't wanna play battleship. - The president of the United States of America should be able to play battleship if he wants. - Shout out to Chris Jenner. - Shout out to Chris Jenner, 70 years old. Click on this picture, man. - Yeah. - Click on Chris J. I thought this was Kim. - Yeah. - Whoever, whoever, whoever, whoever's doing her thing. - Yo, how come the Kardashians don't get a little bit naughty romance though? - 'Cause they pipes for it. They know how they got it. - You mean that Chris Jenner can look like, your Chris Jenner look like she has been bathing in baby blood. - But here's the thing. They did the thing that we accused you of looming out of. - What? - Took Dick to be famous. - Yeah, but that was in the beginning stages. - What I'm saying is, but they've been famous since the beginning stages. Like if you're part of the Illuminati, Charlotte, I mean, they try to give gay rumors and say that you took Dick to be part of the Illuminati, right? - Yeah. - Okay. We know that they did that. There's no rumor. There's a video that we watch. - That was getting stages. - I know what I'm trying to say is, that's what you got her King Magazine in a reality show. - That's where it starts. - But when you start aging backwards, when you start looking-- - Benjamin, 30 at 70? - Yeah, I mean, she looks fantastic. - That's when you start putting the pieces of the baby on the pizza. - Yo, with-- (laughing) - With trying to tell you, that's the mother shit going on. - With all due respect, Ken, can we just with all due respect for a second right now is with all due respect? I got it. What do you think it looks like down there? - I don't wanna have it. - With all due respect. - I don't wanna have it down there. - It's with all due respect. - I've never even thought about it. - It's with, if we were to have it with all due respect. - They have bridubination down there? - I know. There's a world where it looks, there's a world where it looks, it looks like a bunch of Epstein emails came through. - Okay, that's stupid. All right. - Cool. (laughing) - I said, I mean, I don't know, bro, because y'all don't wanna deal with the reality of the situation. - Who is y'all? - Y'all. - 'Cause whatever's down there, made Bruce running 100 y'all dash to another gentleman. (laughing) - Or he loved this so much he won one for himself. - Damn. - Ooh. - I would tap you up, but you fucking puts not all of that down. - God, damn. - It's a good guy. - Chris. - Chris. - That doesn't look so good. - That's one, that's cold. - It's different. - That's what happens when you look at the bright side of things. I'm always so negative. - Now you gotta look at the bright side. - That was the bright side. - Yeah, if you look at, if you look at the thing with some optimism. - Optimism. - What the fucking pussy is half fucked. - Wait a minute. - I don't really know where you're going, man. I feel like we're back in the Venezuelan discussion. - Yeah, but. - You're right. - You're pushing. - With all the viewers back. - The matter was set on the bunches. - As long as you're right. - Chris is so fire. - That's a great point. - It may Bruce Wontwen. - We always talk about the influence of Kim. Nobody's more influential than Chris. - It's a matriarch. - She turned her husband into her wife. - That's the matriarch. - That's the thing. - Her vagina is so fantastic. - That literally the greatest male athlete in the world at one point in time. - Respectfully. Respectfully. - I wanna say this to you. - Eat it respectfully. When I think about what Andrew is saying, just from a scientific perspective. - And also from a respectful perspective. - Yeah, a scientific respectful perspective. I think about what Andrew is saying. If there was some rejuvenation, right? Then it got to look brand new. If you are Bruce, you're looking at it like, "Oh, I can go get one of those made too." - Yep. - Damn. - It's possible hope. - Damn. - Hope. - Damn. - She was selling hope, man. - Damn. - Bruce got him a little paracobama. - Yeah. - What? - Hope. - Oh, I get what you're saying. I pick up, I see what he doing. You know what matter, we just part. - What did you think of it, man? - You got the dark lips. (laughing) - Oh, okay. - Speaking of new renovations. - I don't know. - Say it. - What else we got? What else we got? - Yeah, we can talk about Renault's. - If there's one thing you were just gonna let Trump do and not complain about it, is it not just a real estate renovation? Like if you think, I know we have to be angry at every single thing Trump does. Like I know that's people's identity. - I think the real estate renovation bothers people for a couple of reasons. When you have, people not receive a snap benefits. When you have federal workers not working. But you're watching him throw these lavish parties and you know, do renovations with $230 million. - But the government's not paying for $230 million. - Allegiate, give Argentina $20 billion. - I agree with you, the timing is crazy. - I agree with time. Okay, but like why would you believe that he's spending his own money? - Remove, it's not his own. I think it was like he got donors or whatever like that. But it doesn't matter, the point that I'm trying to say is like, remove timing, just the act. I know there are people that's their whole identity no matter what he does. They have to say it's the worst thing in the world. I get it, you can make a lot of money doing that. I get it. - I understand. - I get what you say. - I understand. There's an online persona that people are, is very profitable and that's what they have to do for the next three years or whatever. I get it. If there was one job, even if you hate Trump, if there's one drop that you could just go, you know what, I'm not gonna be outraged about this thing that he's doing as president. One job, not negotiating peace, not negotiating a big beautiful bill, not negotiating or blowing up fucking battleship. Not any that, just if there was one thing that you go, you know what, okay, I think Trump will be able to do this. Would it not be renovating a piece of real estate? - No, because it's not renovating, it's demolishing. And I think people will love demolishing. - Not the demolishing. - They took the whole, no, did you see the pictures? - Yes, it's a little section. Bro, when they, - What did he talk about? - They're adding, they're adding. - No, that a whole way. - He said he was crazy. - He said he wasn't. - Oh wait, this is the algorithm. He don't know, he might be serious. - Nah, I'm dead serious. - Bro, look it up. They demolished the whole thing. - They're using the pieces of the ships. - Okay. - They're recycling the ships. - They're recycling the battleships. - I think that people look at, they look at the White House's sacred. And they don't want to see that happen. - Well, the motherfuckers that work at the White House, that I've spoken to are like, that shit is ass. It needs to be upgraded. When we ever, we throw a dinner in a vent, we got to put tents outside because there's no room inside to do these things. You need more space. - I don't, listen, I don't fucking know. I just know people don't like to see sacred institutions torn down like this. But I don't even know if it's about the rent. I don't think it's about the demolishing as much as it's about where the money is. - This is the point that I'm trying to make. It's like, people wanna make sure that's not taxpayer dollars. - I get it, I get it. - And once again, he won't show evidence and prove that it's not taxpayer dollars. - But this is my issue with people. It's like, when you cry wolf about every single thing, it removes the sting, the value, the authenticity of your legitimate criticisms. When you cry about the East Wing, how many of y'all even knew there was an East Wing to the White House? - That was the West Wing. - Is it the West Wing or East Wing? - I thought that the White House had just the White House. I didn't know there was wings. We stayed right across the street from it. I didn't even know there was wings. So the point is when people make this, yeah, that's the one that he's renovating. So when people get up in arms about this, in the same way that they're up in arms about the Epstein emails, which is a legitimate criticism, a legitimate concern, it actually takes away a little bit of, to me, like, I go, do you even care about that? - Well, no, let's go. - Or do you just care about hating on this guy. - But do we know why? - Do we know why people are upset? - Because it's him! If he does not, I was green, you could have been like, wow.
because it's an actual technical reason. Why do people combination of things? - Okay. - So some people upset that hey, you're destroying the White House without getting permission to go to the Shredded White House. Some people are saying you're using taxpayer dollars and others are saying that money was donated to him by a lot of people and what are these people gonna get out of donating the money, like pay for play type of situations, and the government shut down and you're spending money to forward. - Well, yes, you know what I'm talking about? - Alex is in Rome, but let's be more technical with it. Like I said before, the historic preservation of it, right? Like the East Wing was built in phases since 1902, with major expansion in 1942, people feel like it's a part of the historic White House complex. Critics say this isn't just a renovation, but a dramatic alteration of a national symbol raising the question, is this our building or just the presidents? Now, this is why people really upset. The lack of transparency in oversight. - Yo, can I just tell you something? That, no, no, no, no, this is a great point. And I think that this is like a really important point in terms of American politics. Transparency should be paramount in American politics. But no Republican will take Democrat seriously if Democrats talk about corruption without talking about Nancy Pelosi. - What are you talking about? - I'm just telling you, if you cry about corruption with the Trump administration or any other Republicans, but you never said shit to the speaker at a house for decades while she made hundreds of millions of dollars on $175,000 a year salary, if you never said one thing about it, and now all of a sudden you're like, oh, let's track Trump's crypto, which we should. We should track Trump's crypto. But if you never said a single thing while the leader of your party robbed American's blinds, Rob is a hard term, but definitely insider trading. - Insider trading, like a motherfucker. While people are going to jail for that shit, right? She's making hundreds of millions of dollars off of it. If you never said a single thing about it, it's very hard to take the criticism seriously. - Well, how do we do that? - Criticism is coming from Democrats. This is oversight and historic review commissions. Either we're not fully interpreted. - No Republicans are there involved. - No, no Republicans. - You don't know Republicans, give 'em fuck about this. - No, no, no. But these are people who are, if you're supposed, if you wanna make renovations like this, you're supposed to talk to these people. - Yeah, yeah, I know. - And he didn't, he don't talk to anybody. Listen, and I'm not saying that that's what they want. - And they want to know who is donating. What are the strings? Some people worry about conflicts and interests. Many donors may do goodnight with the federal government. - Like to say, can I just say? Everything is the same person that took a plane for a $400 million plane. - Can I just say everything you're saying is so legitimate and an amazing criticism. I think that it's like, these are really important things, and we should make sure the people in power will not use their power to enrich themselves or bypass certain systems that we have to limit people's power, right? - What? - I agree with all this shit. But you can't get private funding for something. - I don't know about that one exactly, but I'm with you. - You should've walked them through. - Sure, I guess my point is it's very difficult for people to take that criticism seriously. If that same criticism isn't willing to be applied to the leaders of the own party. It just seems like partisan bullshit. It just seems like how can we knock down the opposition? Because if right in front of your face you're seeing the exact same problem. - But why are we so quick to blame the other side as opposed to just saying there are commissions that provide these checks and balances that whatever reason Trump always do. - Why do I try over? - Why do I trust you with politics? - I don't know. - Me neither. - No, no, no, no, no. - But like for me, you're somebody that has the courage to call out your own party. Even if that's not favorable, even if it's not popular, even if you're, you're gonna be completely maligned for it. - I'm with you. - Because you will call it right from wrong. I like to think that I'm the same in that way. Like I just call out right from wrong. If I see it, I believe it. What I'm trying to tell you, I'm not saying that this shouldn't be called out. What I'm saying is it's easy to ignore. Like Republicans just ignore the shit. 'Cause they're like, "Oh, now you're upset." But when Pelosi is getting hundreds of millions dollars for herself, you know, say shit. - But NASA did get a lot of smoke for, this is the exact same thing. People want the transparency. They wanna make sure that people are going through the checks and balances. - Let's smoke. - And when they find out they-- - She free, right? - When they find it. - But so it's Trump. - When they find out that you're not going through these checks and balances, yes, people have the right to raise hell. And I really think that the private funding-- - I think so too, by the way. - I hope you understand my answer. - Which is like, I think these legitimate criticisms. I think the private funding is the most important thing. Because, man, if you're taking all of these gifts, you're taking these planes. If fucking private funders are building shit in the West Wing. - What are they getting in there? - What are they getting in return? - Guys, guys, guys. I, we're all in the same picture. I think we all know that. Like, I am agreeing with you in terms of all this stuff. All this stuff, it should be concerned. You should be concerned about like the transactional nature, naturally, because if there's transactional nature, you're gonna expect something. So, I 100% get that. What I find really refreshing though is when Republicans are willing to call out Republican shit, damns are willing to call out damn shit. And I think that an important part in the discourse in like being able to like communicate ideally once again, is that both parties will at least acknowledge their own shortcomings. And a beautiful thing that's happening right now, I think, with Democrats, is like they're starting to do it. Yes, how can Republicans can't acknowledge from shortcomings? - Well, I think you've seen it happen. Like fucking marginally terror green is all the sudden. - I don't trust it. - Okay, fair, fair, fair, fair. You don't have to trust it. - But what is happening? - That's the flanker on the football field. - Sure, the decoy. - She might be, but what is happening? She's kind of like to come in incredibly popular figure. - Right, crazy. - Why is the left still accepting of these individuals? - It's not about accepting. She has utility. It's like you, you, I know what you're saying. - Yeah, that's all it is. It's like, it's more effective when somebody from the other team is criticizing that team. - It's like how to write uses my soundbites. - Yeah, exactly that, exactly, right? It's like any time we're critical of Democrats on a pod, the right is gonna clip and they're gonna post it on Twitter. - 'Cause they made up our minds and I'm a liberal star. - Right, right. And it's like, so yeah. So yeah, that's what I would say. But what I would say is there's something incredibly refreshing. Like one of the things that makes Bernie so appealing is Bernie had been calling out his own party for fucking decades. So also when you start to trust him. You go, wait a minute. This guy's gonna call it like it is. And then we know the people that just tow the party line. And while it might feel good to hear them like rebuke a talking point and you might feel satisfied because like that's how you feel and he's gonna give you an argument for it. You don't really trust that that's how he feels. A person that is unique to themselves is gonna have opinions on both sides. - That's a great point because that's the reason I don't trust Marjorie Telegreen. 'Cause I've been watching. And I'm not saying people can't change their mind and I think people should change their mind. And I'm actually probably being a hypocrite because I am a person that says, hey man, if somebody sees that something is wrong, acknowledge that is wrong, right? Like if you keep going down the path that you know is wrong, but you're not telling everybody is wrong, you're fake to me. - So to watch her do what she's doing now, even though I don't trust it, that is what you're actually supposed to do. - Yeah. - This is still a good thing. - It's still a good thing. But like this is what I thought, you had Shapiro, I think, on the breakfast club. You caught out a great thing. You're like, you're against reparations for black people, but like Jews got reparations after the Holocaust. - I don't remember if that was Shapiro. - No, Ben Shapiro, not Josh. - Oh. - Yeah, and then he gave some kind of answer that he was kind of not even acknowledging it. But like recently I think he was on like the trigger nonmetry podcast or something like that. And he was like, yeah, if you can't afford to live in a place, then you got to move. Like that's just what it is. And I don't think Ben has bad intent when he does these things. But I don't think he realizes that like oftentimes he holds like America to higher standards than he holds Israel for example, right? Because it's like, you're gonna tell Americans that can't afford to live in New York City that they should go move and look for opportunity somewhere else. But like if you can't afford your own wars, then maybe you shouldn't fight them, right? So like you have, if what I think that people get frustrated is like you got to keep that same energy. - A point. - If you are for government assistance, if you're for government support, if you're for government aid, for Israel, then you should at least be understanding of government support, government aid for the American people. And I don't think he's doing this with bad intent. Like I'm actually trying to give him the best read possible here. But I think it's hard for people to see past their own personal issues. - Sometimes yes. And I'm sure that's like very near and dear to him. So I do have respect for that. But at the same time like somebody watching it is gonna go wait a minute. We can give billions upon billions of dollars for this thing over here. But when someone is saying we need to make a city more affordable, you're saying, not is what it is, like this is the system. You got to move somewhere else and look for opportunity. They're gonna naturally go, whoa, this feels hypocritical. He might have a great argument for it. And that's fair. But the feeling people are gonna have he goes, that guy's a hypocrite and it looks like he's prioritizing this one thing over this thing. And that's something he should think about when he's communicating. - And my problem is I can see where everybody's coming from. I completely understand what Bishop Piro is saying. Cause I saw many people, especially during COVID, they was like, I'm getting the fuck out of New York. Right. This shit is too expensive. I gotta stay in this cramped ass apartment. I can't leave. Matt, people took the dash down south, right? And I can also see where Andrew was coming from. And Andrew's like, yo, if you a country that can't afford to fight your own war, then maybe you shouldn't be fighting them. I see it all. And that's my problem. Or we start to go, hey, you know what? It's okay to want to help people here. And it's okay to want to help people. - I see that side too. - But we don't go, this is the only one that we help. And this is what we don't. Our conservative values don't go out there.
the window when it comes to helping foreign nations. - You know sometimes and we didn't help here first before we helped. - Well, I think that's what a lot of Americans are feeling right now which they should. Like this is, you know, you gotta help home. Like I care about Americans more than I care about anybody else. - Do you know sometimes when you're having conversations with people and I really mean this whole argument? It is very rare when a person is just completely. I'm talking about if you just take a step back, leave all your personal biases and just be objective and actually just listen to a person, you can almost understand where everybody is coming from. But then you gotta make a decision on, okay, and understand what you're coming from. But which one of these ideas is going to benefit the most, the most of us. I think that's what a lot of people do nowadays. It's either one or two things. You either have your own personal biases, you're not being objective, you're not listening, you don't give a fuck. Whatever this person says is wrong because they're not on what you want, they're not on whatever side you're rapping. They're against what you're against, so you just dismiss them. But most of the time when you're listening to good, you're listening to ideas, you're gonna take the best idea that you think can help the most people. That's what I think we gotta start knowing. - I think, I think you're under some right. I think we try to do that. It's just sometimes, I think like, I think that's what Mamdani is at least trying to do. He's like, "Hey, we're gonna do these things "and these things are gonna help." I think what often happens in reality is that sometimes the good ideas don't lead to the outcome. Sometimes good ideas do lead to outcomes, that's awesome. But sometimes good ideas don't lead to outcomes you want. The number one thing that's gonna change affordability of rent in New York City is just building more apartments. It's not freezing rent, it's not doing anything else but building more apartments. Freezing rent is gonna skyrocket rent on the apartments there are in what's called the free market. It's, when he freezes the rent, people who have not rent controlled or rent stabilized apartments are gonna go way higher and it's become way more unaffordable. The only thing that will stop it is if we build more apartments and in order to do that, you have to do rezoning and every mayor promises they're gonna do it and no mayor does it. If Mamdani comes in, rezones reduces. - Explain what you mean by rezoning. - So there are certain places that are like not zoned to be built in. And this is a long process. You have to get approval from Albany for these, like they might be zoned for office, they might be zoned for nothing at all. - Every toe, I give you just that. - Or there might be certain buildings that like within the neighborhood, there are certain people that go, "Hey, we don't want to tall building our neighborhood." We like the fact that it's all lower buildings in the neighborhood. Well, now you have to fight that very powerful neighborhood alliance. - And don't think they'd not, 'cause that's the same type of people that voted not to have a casino in Times Square. - Exactly. - But it didn't matter who. - And also like I have empathy for those people. It's like they spent probably their whole life savings on a home in this beautiful little brown zone community. And you're gonna come in and then for years, erect some giant skyscraper that's gonna completely train, like change what that neighborhood is. Like I also have empathy for them, right? But it's gonna require a mayor who comes in and deregulates, changes the building laws, 'cause right now like developers, if they could make money developing, they would develop, right? But they can't. So you have to change those laws that make it not profitable, and you gotta let them fucking develop. And that will change it. But until a mayor comes in and does that, and hopefully it's my donny, but nothing is gonna change with affordability in terms of housing. It's just not. - So you're saying that his idea to freeze is not the best idea. - His idea to freeze is not the best idea. I think it's the most catchy in the same way build a wall is catchy, right? - Yeah, yeah, that's a catch. - Building a wall is not gonna stop illegal immigration. You know, it probably will. These horrific videos you see with ICE. But build a wall sounds better, marketing-wise, then going, hey, we're gonna see, we're gonna have ICE agents do like, completely dehumanizing things to people and throw 'em in the back of cars and kick 'em out. Like you can't really run on that. - And freezing the rent does help a group of people, a large group of people that who are in rent-stabilized apartment, they know for at least for one or two years, my rent's not gonna go up because my salary's not going totally, what I would just say to that, it does also hurt the people that are in the free market. - Yeah, but what I would say to that is like, we have freeze the rent before. I think it blows you to twice. - I don't know what that should know. - Yeah, so it's like, yeah, and I think it gave them relief, but it unfortunately didn't like have a long-term solve of the housing crisis. And like, that's what I'm, again, I'm knock on wood, like currently like unaffected by these things. So my interest in this is just wanting people to live in an awesome city, the most amazing city in history and be able to afford to live here, and I have to move back to where they're from. I want people to have that opportunity, right? So what actually allows that is more apartments. - Yeah. - This is a bandit. The freeze is a bandit. - And I just feel little solutions are good, even if it's not gonna be the main thing that fixes everything, if you do a bunch of good little things, that's also how. - If they're leading to your ultimate goal. - Exactly. - I also think it like, it showcases the sentiment, which is like, I wanna do something to help you. - Exactly. - And I think like when people want help, that means a lot, even if it doesn't solve it in the long term. It means a lot when somebody that's in a position of power goes, here's help. - Yeah. - And I get it. - Yeah. - Let's do some asking idiots, Alex, will we have some bills? - All right, let's do some asking idiots, Alex. Alex Media, Alex Media. - Oh, man, Higgy 30 said, is using the word sassy, a low-key slur from dropping the F word. It is. - You think? - And I didn't realize how much sassy hurt people and tell this week, we did a topping on Breakfast Club. We asked people to call in, tell us what your trigger word. And this guy said, he hates when his girl calls him sassy. - Yeah, yeah. - No, that's crazy for your girl to call you. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Oh, crazy. - His girl thinks he get. - That's my point, you know what I'm saying, it's sassy. But even if you're not gay, if you're doing something that just sassy, like sassy is almost like teenage girl, like not even teenage girl, like a 10-year-old, like you're not even sassy with your parents, you know what I mean? - You know what it is. - What? - You calling him gay? - Yeah. - She's calling him gay. - I mean, I'm not disagreeing with Higgy 30. It is a low-key slur from dropping the F word, but you've also got to remember what sassy means. Let's look up the definition of this. If your girl is calling you it, it is damn. - Yeah, that's crazy. - Dependent of what air she is, she's just gonna call you. - Son, that is worse. - Well, that's the worst. - Sassy means lively. Sassy means lively, bold, and full of spirit, cheeky. Cheeky might be worse than sassy, bro. Don't call me fucking cheeky. - No. - You're from London, you could say cheeky, that's fine. - No, I don't call me cheeky, bro. I mean, you're looking at my cheeks, bro. - Yeah, that's what I feel like. It's fucking me cheeky. - Sassy is crazy. - So if you got a fat ass as a man and a guy calls you cheeky, you all gonna spit your cheeky. - They know it's jaded like that. - Did they, the gay dudes looking at strangers with a fat ass the same way we look at hot lesbians. - I'm sure, I'm sure. I got a whole new theory about, it's really just a waste. Huh. What's your name, their waste? - The hot lesbians or-- - Oh, I thought you meant like the-- - Guys with the fat ass. - Like, you're built with this big old donkey ass, but a guy can't get behind it and throw your head into a dashboard. - We're not girls like to grab the ass too. - When they hit me. - When you hit me. - And when you want to top it him then you reach back and grab your cheekies. - No, I know ass, that's why you don't-- - I got more ass than you. - No, that's not true. - I do have more ass than you 100%. Don't let me get the glutes out. - It's not even close, bro. - I don't know, Charlotte, you might have lost it. - No, you don't have-- - I don't know how to do that. - If you wanna see it, just say you wanna see it. - Yeah, you stay right at me. - I wanna see it. - Stay right at me. - I wanna see it. - Stay right at me. - 100% I got fat at me. - You stay right at me. - You can get me close. Come on, bro. Come on, man. And I got on baggy shit. My shit's still-- - Look at these excuses. - Checked up. - You don't feel it. You don't feel it out, bro. You really not feeling it out? - I don't feel it in it. - Oh, bro. You wanna see me twerk, huh? - I know what that means. I was trying to get it to do more. You like the guy in the script club holding a bunch of ones in the hand like nah, shorty, nah, you giving me a going head, two head, nah, I know what this is. Also, I got a whole theory about men, right? - Yeah. - Men should not care if other people, other men are gay. It should not bother you in any way, shape or form, but it's not that it bothers them. I feel like any man that is wondering if another man is gay, he wants to know for his own personal benefit. He wants to fuck. It's just like when you see a pretty girl and you like, you know, is she single? You're inquiring. Well, don't inquire about my sexuality. You inquiring about my sexuality. That means you might want to fuck. - What if he's like talking to your girl a little bit too much? Then if you want to know, it's just like, oh okay, it's fine. - Huh, say that again? - Like, say if a guy-- - Say if a guy-- - Say if a guy-- - No, I'm just saying. - I said I'm first. - Okay, look at it. - What's that laugh about? - I'm just saying, you can't make up a situation. And I would say that would be a situation where you would want to know. If a guy's like, say talking to your girl too much, and then you're like, oh, I see what you saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I see what you say. I thought you meant like the guy was talking to your girl inquiring about you. - No, no. - 'Cause he thinks you gay. - No. - So he wanted to know if you all want to have a three-cellent. - No way. - Man, you came up with a whole 'nother scenario. - 'Cause it's not as though personal.
I was like, what is a guy asking your girl about you? - That would be a time where you inquired. - But they wouldn't ask your girl, they didn't ask weasies. Weasies told me that before. That guy that wanted, you look mad sassy when you did that just now. Why'd you do that? Why'd you do that? And like, he was like, what? You can't see that. You can't see that. No, weasies told, we said that, you know, there'd be guys that'd be trying to hit on you and they always come to her and ask, like, yo, is Alex really? And she'd be like, no, he's not. Shut up, Shawn. - I'm not making this up. - Who whatever. - We didn't ever told you this? - Next question. - You want me to call him? - Is that hard to believe? - Yeah, in the country anyway. - What do you mean? - Like you, if the nail polish should fashion forward. - Oh, I look good. - I think that's respectful. - I can understand it. - Yeah. - That's more respectful than like, if that come into you, you know what I'm saying? Like, he's not assuming, he's just like, yo, is that? - Yeah, I'm sure it can happen, but that's not a thing that happens. - That's not a thing that happens. - You know, he's making it seem like-- - You don't think one gay guy is ever like two in your life? - No, I'm saying that's a thing that could have happened. Maybe one, but he's making it seem like that's a regular. - So if it happened once, you don't think it could happen twice? - Yeah, no. - You should never assume somebody is gay. You make a ass out of yourself when you assume somebody is gay. And when you assume somebody's gay, that means you want to ask. So you're making a ass out of yourself and that means you want to ask. - 'Cause assume is ask you me. - That's what you get exactly. Ask you me, ask you me. - That's what he was trying to say. - Ask you me. - Meaning, that is, that's how I got to write that one, Doc. 'Cause I'm saying that at least five more times this week. You got to understand, bro. Fragile maggot, ask you me, finding just new ways. - Gems. - Finding Gems. - This ain't it? - Yeah. - Woo. - All right. - If laughter burns calories, should comedians be considered personal trainers? Oh, I like this one whole Jojo Bussik, whatever the fuck. What do you think about this show? - No, it doesn't burn calories. Lots of dust burn calories. - I mean, like, not enough. 'Cause fat people are always the most giggly. - That's not true. (laughing) Fat people don't truly find anything funny. 'Cause they always know that they did joke. - Oh, interesting. - That's right. - That's right. - So they're fake laughing. - That's right. - Fake laughing doesn't burn calories. - Are they become comedians? - Ooh. Are they become comedians? Are hardcore rappers? - It's the truth. - It's the truth. Call 'em shun, undiscord '94 says, "What's your advice on how you can help your postpartum wife?" You just gotta be there for all my brother. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, there's nothing you can do. It is just a biological thing that happens. And you just gotta wait. - Hey, you just gotta wait. - No, tell 'em, get back to suck it. - Shut up. (laughing) - You gotta suck out. - You gotta suck out your depression. You gotta suck it out. - You gotta get it out and you gotta beat it for her when she's going. - One way to get rid of depression. - No. - No. - No. - You gotta slurp it out. - You get it for your wife. - Oh, find somebody that can help you with meal prep. - 100%. - 100%. - I gotta meal. - You gotta move it. - Then let's move it in your sister's grandma. - You're gonna feel so much better. - Have a night nurse. You're gonna four of these things. You know, get somebody that can help you. - Luckily, head is free. - The child. - Luckily, head costs nothing. - And it'll make her feel so good and so happy. - Spell. - Help your post-partum type. - Just spell. - Watch as you can. - Nut for her. - You owe her that. - No. - No. - No. - LewisBee.co says, "Why do people so easily embrace evil "when it's hidden behind a cross and call itself Christian?" - Got it. - Whoa. - God damn. - What is that? - Oh, that's not a person. - Yeah, what evil? - What evil is Christianity? - No, the Christian websites have been posting so much of our content. - No. - Yes, they'd be tagging me on Instagram 'cause they swear that I don't believe in God or Jesus. - Well, just tell 'em right now. - They know, I'm 100% believe in God or Jesus. I think we had a good conversation with Pastor Todd 'cause one of the things I saw go viral was our conversation about. You do have that Muslim guy on your neck. - Love 'em. - Love to have a lot of my homies. But it was a conversation. By the way, they believe in Jesus too. But it was a conversation about. - They'd be saying that shit. - They do it. - They believe he existed, he did exist. But they don't believe. - Believe what though? - They believe he was a prophet. - Yeah. - But believe it was a prophet is different than believing. - Somebody got mad because I said Jesus was a messenger. He was. It says it in the Bible. - He was a prophet. He was the son of God. - We hear that a lot. We're Muslims like here. We also respect when we believe in Jesus. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you don't believe Jesus is the one. He is the king. And that is what Christians believe. He is the king of kings. Jesus don't believe that though. - Say again. - Jesus don't want you to believe that. - Jesus don't want you to believe that though. - All right, here we go. Clip it. Clip it. We're back on the Christian blog. - I pulled up the scripture. - What do you mean? - What do you mean? - Jesus is the Lord and Savior. - Yeah. - Oh Lord. - You just said. - No, you did? - This is debated amongst theologians. Like whether Jesus believed that he was the son of God. But the Christians believed that he did. And that's the message that he was preaching. - Jesus says the most important commandment is this. Here, oh, Israel, the Lord, our God, the Lord is one. So this is Jesus affirming the central Jewish belief. There is only one God, no other God beside him. This is the eternal life that they know you the only true God. In Jesus Christ whom you have sent as John 17, three. This is Jesus that Jesus said. The Father is the only true God. Jesus denies having independent divine power. John 5.30, I can do nothing by myself. He points everything back to the Father's authority. Jesus says God is greater than him. John 14, 28, the Father is greater than I. Again reinforcing God's supremacy. Jesus says to worship and serve God alone. Matthew 14, worship the Lord your God and serve Him only. I don't know why that's what he is God. That's where it gets confusing. - The Holy Trinity, my boy. - I know, I talked the path that taught about it, but even the way I hear a lot of people describe it a lot of different ways and I don't know. I just believe in God and I believe in Jesus and I believe in all prophets and messages that have been sent here to get us back to the Word of God. - Even the ones after Jesus? - Yes. Well that's an issue. Christians are gonna have an issue with that one. - With prophets? - With after Jesus prophets. - They believe in the ones before. - So that's a question. What do you call, what do you call pastors and stuff now who preach to try to get us back to the prophets? What are they, messengers? - They're pastors. - I don't know, bro. - I don't know, what's the prophet? - It's a messenger from God. God is speaking through them. - How do we know God ain't speaking through Bishop TD Jakes? Like what makes us think? How do we know God didn't speak through Farrakhan? - We don't know. - How's it I'm saying? What do we, why can't those people be considered prophets? - We don't know. - That is the faith. Faith is what we. - Faith is not knowing. - Did the prophets say that God is talking through me right now? - It's a good question. - They got messengers just from God. Yeah, they definitely got messengers just from God. - Yeah, they got messengers just from God. But the one that went viral for us was. And I shouldn't have said BS, I'm not gonna lie. We was having a conversation about Jesus and you was talking about the forgiveness aspect. And I said, that's that BS. But I wasn't talking about Jesus. I was just talking about the mentality that humans have, like we almost have unlimited sins. And that's what I was talking to pastor Mike Todd about, you know, on the breakfast club. Because I feel like if you know, apology, if I feel like the best apology is change behavior, then the best form of repentance has to be change behavior as well. So I don't want to live my life. Like I can just sin, sin, sin and pray for forgiveness. I would rather live my life the way Jesus did and strive to be the best version of myself in not sin. - I think that that's an amazing way to live life. And I think that people would say that's a Christian way to live life. - That's all. - Yeah. - But for whatever reason, people took that and was like, I hope he repents before he goes to hell. I hope, I'm like, God damn. Like, I don't know. - What? - This I don't, I really don't know. That's a, the real part about it is, this is what I really was thinking to myself. Man, y'all are very brutal on these Christian pages. I want y'all to be Christian. And I did leave one comment 'cause I'm like this, I like discussions like this. This is a smart discussion. It's about religion. But when I left the comment, there was people in my comments telling me, I'm the worst person ever. I'm going to hell blah, blah, blah. This and that, you know, I've listened to you for years. Well, I probably shouldn't if you're a Christian. (laughing) That's the only one. Well, I'm just like, God, this place is a, this is a very judgmental space. - There is a, we had Tim Tebow on Flaker. - No. You know about the show beforehand? - Yeah. - He's still a Christian? - Yeah. - Yeah, I don't think we converted it. - Dang. - But no, no. We had him on and he did the most fire shit, man. We were talking about, like, I was bringing up Aaron Hernandez a little bit 'cause you know, they went to Florida together. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And he got like a little emotional talking about. Like, there's multiple times that everybody gets like emotional, but and he starts to kind of defend Aaron. Now, Aaron has done some like heinous shit, okay? - Yeah, yeah.
and he's dead. - God bless you, dude. - But like, he's done something. It's very easy to just be able to make fun of him, point of finger at a bad person, whatever. And like Tim, like saw the humanity in this person, like what he endured in his life that led him to these fucked up decisions that he made. - Absolutely. - And like it was a beautiful moment of like what I imagine, we would hope to uphold with Christianity, which is like seeing good in someone, even though they've done bad, right? And that, and it was like, and saying that out loud on a podcast, you would get scrutinized. Like defending Aaron Hernandez to a certain extent. He wasn't defending what he did, but he was like, I feel really bad about what he went through, that led to this and I wish I could have done more to help him. - Yeah, I don't think it's the defense. I think that. - I thought it was brave. If you are a person who can see past your own ego, if you're a person who's done any kind of work on themselves, if you're a person that is really spiritual, like a Tim Tebow is, you can always see what led a person to do what it is that they've done, not excusing their behavior. You're not trying to justify their behavior. You're just telling us, I can see how he ended up being that individual, right? And you do wish you could have intervened. By the way, we act like that doesn't happen all the time. To like the young criminal. Like when a young person does something really heinous, people be like, man, I wish I wouldn't intervene. Like, y'all, I didn't know that this was happening to him at home. I didn't know he was having issues with his mom or his mom was on drugs. I didn't know he didn't have a father growing up. Like, you start going back in a person's life, seeing all the mistakes that they made and wishing you could have intervened. - So, I mean, yeah. I don't see the problem. - No, there's no problem. I think it's beautiful. It's like, if there is one aspect of Christianity that I wish we could like put into the water in America a little bit now. Let me probably the world, but like, especially in America where everybody's so siloed and isolated and like we're constantly seeing the most radical version of everyone and dehumanizing them and not trying to get in touch with the better nature of who they are, seeing them as an actual person with feelings, family, love, compassion, right? Like, you were talking about the Melissa thing earlier. Like, I think that she's missing some Christianity. Like, she's missing this idea that people are not perfect and we have to do our best to love them and we have to be our best to love each other and see humanity and see God in every single person who is a sinner. And if you should do a podcast. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's like, if for me, I would go, that would be an amazing thing to insert into the discourse here in America. It would be an amazing thing to insert into every like political pundit. It would be an amazing thing to insert. If we saw a little bit more humanity in each other, we had a little bit more Christianity in the water. I think that this would be a much more pleasant place to at least disagree with one of these. - You know, I'm gonna say the point that Shultz is making, that's what you said. - That don't get placed. - You're right. - I think the point Shultz is making is a good point because it goes back to like, you know, you can't tell me something about a person I actually know. So Tim Teebo saw things in Aaron that we never saw. And I'm not, that don't, once again, it don't as few as anything that Aaron did. He just saw a different version of him that actually existed. I don't know if that's the best example though. - No, it's the most extreme example. And him being able to maintain his faith within the most extreme example was the most impressive to me. 'Cause it's very easy to do it with like a misunderstood pundit or like a misunderstood like guy from the neighborhood. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's different when you know it's somebody who has murdered people. - Yeah, 'cause if everything they said about Shultz was true. And he was putting on clan robes at night. - I would be genuinely shocked. It would be a genuine shock to me. And everybody would be saying, "No, we how did you not stand?" But I'm like, I'm like, I knew him for real. I thought I knew him. - Yeah. - Right? You wouldn't be shocked, I would be shocked. If I'd be shocked, but everybody else, it wouldn't be. But I bet you. - Hopefully not everybody else. Like hopefully, hopefully, it's just like people caught up in these algorithms and like- - Like if you found out I was really gay. - Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked. - All right, man, how do you maintain? (laughing) - But that is the shit that like, it's like when I hear the same things about like you being like some super liberal and stuff like that. And I'm like, "Oh, wow, you don't really know Sharla." - Yeah, you got a bag of hat. I seen him wear it when we were just on the beach killing him. (laughing) - And you know, dude, I like this. When you don't underscore a blue underscore it says, "How do you maintain the amount of relationships you've created throughout your career?" By just being a solid person. - Yeah. By treating people the way that you want to be treated, man. I can't talk behind nobody's back. If I got an issue with anybody that I actually genuinely care about, we're gonna have a conversation about it. I see too much fake shit that I'm not with. And I'm not with, please, I promise y'all. There's some of y'all, y'all have no idea how much y'all on my shit list. And you on my shit list because I always tell Andrew things. I say, yo, whenever somebody takes a shot at you, watch who rides, which set individual. - Yeah. - 'Cause that person was just always waiting on a reason to hate on you. And there's some individual, man, that I know been hating for a while. And I've just been watching, like, I see them leave little comments here. - Yeah. - You know, repost people talking shit about me. And I'm like, this guy, he's always texting me. Or this person's always calling me. But then when I see the person have a conversation with him, they like, oh, I don't even run my Instagram. - Yo. - Hey, what? - This is, it's so funny when like, they act shocked. You know, like, they're so unaware of their behavior. Or maybe they think that you are unaware, like, you're not seeing things. - That's what I think. - 'Cause I see everything. So I think people think that I don't see shit. And then when I act in kinds, they're like, when, how the hell did this happen? And then I have to remind them that they might have fired a little shot first. They might have showed disloyalty first. Because I'll never be the one to do that. - Never. - Everyone. Like, there's few stand-up people in this business, but I would say that we are stand-up individuals. - Listen, I've had the same friends for years. I promise you, man, if you see a person not around me, no more, it's because of some fuck shit that, you know, they was up to, they was up to, you know what I mean? And they were playing me. Like, and I, that's it. I love and value my relationships. But especially the ones that have been around for a long time, you know what I mean? 'Cause that shit, I mean, you know how much shit we done been through together? Like, I don't care about when you with me when shit is cool. Man, when the fucking storm is coming, you know what I mean? Like, that's when you learn true colors. And there's a lot, but by the way, there's a lot of people that have done that that I've never really considered friends anyway. Like, I'm talking about like in the industry. Like, not a person with shit, but like in the industry. There's a couple people I see being fuck motherfuckers. And I'm like, I never really considered them a friend anyway. - Yeah, I don't really care about them, you know what I'm saying? - But it's nice to know because it's like, okay, well, I was treating you as a friends and a colleague. Even though we weren't homies, I was like, I thought that we had that. But once I see you act like a fuck, I don't really gotta, I don't really have to treat you in that way, I have to defend you. I don't gotta, like, something wants to talk shit about you, I'm not, all right, let it rip. - Yeah, listen, I gotta, I got a person right now who I still love, we had a, it wasn't, I wouldn't even, 'cause it was such a minor thing. Like, I mean, when I say it was so small, it was literally just like a miscommunication while we were actually on the phone. I was thinking I was doing something that was helping the individual. But they didn't like how I did it. And all they had to do with some of you idea, I wasn't feeling that. Cool, but that person took that opportunity to be like, all right, yo, let me get off the phone, whatever, whatever. I ain't spoke to the person since. But then since that time, I've seen this individual leave comments, right? Shitting on us and shitting on me. And I'm just like, I love you, like, and always have loved you. But clearly, - Love ain't there. - Love it, well, it wasn't the same, 'cause I would, even, I would never do that. You still to this day, I would never do anything like that. - Some people are only loyal to opportunity. - That could be true too, but you would think otherwise when it's 20 plus year relationships. - Oh, 100%, but sometimes it's like, if they don't see any more opportunity there, that loyalty goes away and then they could start acting the way. Again, I don't know. It's like, I got the same friends since I was in fucking high school. My manager, my first friend in college, - Doh. Like, Jamil, Jamil? Jamil's my first friend in high school. He's doing all our partnerships. You know, Alex and I started doing this shit together. Like, so all the people I've carried through my life from like my real friends. If I see people in the industry and like, they only kind of really got industry friends, I'm not knocking it immediately, but there's a part of me that goes, oh, maybe all these people are tools for your success. - That's true, like that's true. - And that's okay too. Like, if you had that type of ambition, you wanna go through things like that, that's fine. I would rather build things with the homies and like, there's gonna be peaks. There's gonna be values that we're gonna endure all that shit together, but I know in the long run, we're gonna, it's a stock market, baby. It's like, you know, knock on wood. - We're going up. - I think that's the coolest shit in the world. I know where I got, you know, long-term friends that I work with and do business with too, but like, you know, guys, like my guy Frost, you know, like my cousin Kentay, like my boy Booby, like, you know, Drell, God bless the dead. But I, like, there's a, I wish, like, they could be running around with me every day, you know what I mean? It's a little different, like, I happen to be born and raised in a city where people come for their careers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean? So it's like if that was Charleston, I'm sure there will be a lot of people that you would build them legally regularly. I'd be begging to be in New York and not have anybody around me. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Let's do one more Alex and get about a hell. Oh, I love this question. Alexa Grin says revive any celebrity back from the day. Who would be in why? Oh, I got too many, man, I couldn't, I couldn't do on you. Who do a top five go? Epstein, right? Revive any, he wasn't a celebrity and revive any celebrity back from the dead. Who would it be and why? Revive any celebrity back from the dead. He's saying celebrities. So I'm thinking this is not politician. Yeah, or a leader. Religious figures are people in entertainment celebrity nipsy hustle because he was a good great brother. When he was alive, I would always say he's a rapper that people can look up to literally and figuratively because he was, you know, so tall. But you know, sometimes you get to see what a person represented when they die because we like to give people flowers when they're gone, but when, but when he didn't necessarily get that the way he should have when he was alive. But I just think he would, he would do so much for us as a culture right now if he was here. So nipsy hustle, selfishly, the notorious B.I.G. Just because those first two albums were so great, ready to die and life after death that double album was so good and all his features and stuff and so good. His short rap career was so good. I just wanted to see how he would have walked. Like we saw how did he, I mean, not did he how big he evolved, I mean, how big he, how whole evolved with the music. I just want to see what Biggie's four, fifth album would sound like we didn't get a blueprint from Biggie. Yeah. Imagine what Biggie's like magnum opus would have sounded like that one that out and that defines him. Like I don't feel like ready. I mean, ready to die and life after death to find him because he's no longer here. But if he would have stayed alive, whoa, so nipsy, Biggie, Biggie, John Rivers, John Rivers, because John Rivers did not give a fuck, can you imagine what the John Rivers podcast would sound like? Oh my God. Can you imagine what the John Rivers podcast would sound like? Yes. It's a wild girl. Um, George Carlin. Because I know we're not supposed to use the word profit, a lot of things George Carlin said back then. Sure. That absolutely came true. So I would love to see what he sees for the future now. Sure. Um, and my fifth, who would my fifth be, oh this is tough. My fifth probably, my fifth would probably be two pop and it would be two pop for the same exact reasons as the nipsy, because everybody has these conversations about what two pop would have evolved into right now, not even just on some entertainment thing. Just what he would have all involved involved into as a, you know, person in life. I would have, I would have loved to see that. That's good list, man. Sure. So everybody dead. You already told you about the boat. She's like, what would I want alive, um, Patrice O'Neal, greatest comic ever. That would be awesome, especially during like censorship time, especially just all of it would just be absolutely fantastic. Um, just celebrities, entertainers, I'm trying to think like, it was some of the died young that you're like, man, we didn't get enough of that. Oh, is that a celebrity or is that, okay, yeah, Kobe for sure, Kobe, man, look, that's she was so tragic, right, like I bring him in, uh, GG back, yeah, yeah, yeah, Kobe would be fantastic. Michael Jackson. I wanted to see what he was going to do that last tour run. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's so crazy. I know it's going to sound really crazy. I'm glad they're doing the Michael Jackson biopic, they used to give Michael so much hell. I don't feel like they deserve Michael. Michael used to get so much hell while he was here and while he was alive, you know, I don't think that this, this, this dimension deserved like Michael Jackson, you know, I really don't the way they picked them apart, you know, like like this guy, he probably hadn't, he probably hadn't no peace. He probably didn't get peace until after he transitioned. Yeah. Like, I don't, I don't know. I don't know if I would do that to Mike. Like you. I feel like in today's era, we would have dug a little bit more into what they were accusing him of. And I think no. They would have destroyed Michael. Or I think the people who were trying to destroy him with the record labels and the hows that be. By the way, I don't disagree with you. I, I, I don't, I say that all the time when you have these conversations, by the way, you was trying to buy him. You see, Michael Jackson is the only celebrity I really truly believe they experienced these around. Yes. Yeah. They wanted to get him out of here for a number of reasons. A lot of it had to do with that publishing at a young, like, I, yeah, Michael's the only one that I'm really like, yeah, they had a very valid reason to try to get him out of here. It's for all that to be clear before while he's still alive. And I think people would have dug deep and found that. I think Michael going to be, I mean, to me, he's already been like very redeemed in death. I think it's, I think we really know that a lot of, most of those, all of those accusations against him was some bullshit. They do got investigated by the FBI for 17 years. Yeah. Some people still believe. I don't believe any. I think that the rumors are still around, but they have less thing. So like, I think in-depth, sometimes the focus is just on the music and how the music made us feel like in-depth, sometimes the focus is on art. He's got a biopic coming out. They got MJ on Broadway. Yeah. Ain't nobody out there protesting that shit. So. And when this biopic drop, I don't want to see none of y'all fake won't people get online and try to stir up no shit because I'll be the first person saying suck my dick and I'm gonna suck my dick, he he he. After I do it. Okay. Fuck you. Beat it. As always. Ooh, I ain't even trying that shit. That's hard. As always. As always. That's always. That was the one. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're burned, you absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple of idiots, you don't know shit, you're right, too, is to burn the death podcast. Thank you for listening. Be.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The podcast features a sharp, humorous roast of political discourse, highlighting how both parties criticize each other while ignoring the real suffering of federal workers and food-insecure families.
A central argument is that political disagreements are often rooted in ideological binaries, but real-world consequences—like government shutdowns and food bank lines—demand empathy and practical solutions.
The hosts criticize the Republican administration for withholding SNAP benefits during a shutdown, calling it a deliberate political weapon that deepens inequality and harms vulnerable populations.
They argue that political elites often fail to grasp the lived experiences of people on the front lines, especially those working in government jobs or relying on food assistance.
The discussion reveals a broader critique of lobbying power, corporate interests, and the lack of transparency in how wealth and influence shape policy.
A key insight is that billionaires are not inherently bad, but their wealth and practices—especially in health care and education—must be held accountable to ensure fairness and equity.
The hosts emphasize that true progress requires bipartisan action, not just partisan posturing, and that policies should serve the public, not just corporate or political agendas.
The episode ends with a focus on grassroots movements, like food bank efforts and community-based solutions, as an alternative to the endless political rhetoric.
Summary:
The podcast delivers a sharp, satirical yet deeply concerned critique of current political dynamics, particularly around government shutdowns and their real-world impacts on ordinary Americans. Hosts highlight how federal workers and low-income families suffer during shutdowns, with many going without pay or food aid—especially as the Trump administration deliberately withheld SNAP benefits. The discussion challenges the notion that political debates are about moral purity, arguing instead that voting decisions are complex and often driven by single-issue priorities like healthcare or food security.
The hosts emphasize that while political discourse often centers on ideological fights, the lived experiences of people—especially those on the margins—demand empathy and practical solutions. They point to systemic issues such as corporate lobbying, inflated healthcare costs, and the misuse of public funds, suggesting that wealth and power are not just concentrated in the hands of billionaires, but are also exploited through institutions like insurance and education. The episode underscores a broader call for accountability: that political leaders must prioritize public welfare over partisan gains.
It concludes by advocating for grassroots, community-driven solutions—like food banks and public health initiatives—as more effective and humane than political posturing. Ultimately, the conversation serves as a reminder that real change requires both moral clarity and concrete action, not just rhetoric.
FAQs
The host argued that the shutdown caused severe hardship for federal workers who went without pay for 40 days and had to rely on food banks. He emphasized that many of these workers live paycheck to paycheck and that the shutdown, especially with SNAP benefits withheld, disproportionately harms vulnerable populations.
The host believes that voters shouldn't judge politicians solely based on their party affiliation or past positions. He argues that people vote based on specific issues, and supporting a candidate doesn't mean they endorse every policy, making political judgment more nuanced than simple loyalty.
The host explains that he doesn't view political loyalty as binary. He points out that Democrats have consistently advocated for federal workers and social welfare, and that the shutdown and SNAP cuts were politically motivated, not just policy disagreements.
The host believes insurance companies may raise premiums knowing the government subsidizes health care, creating a system where companies profit from high costs. He sees this as exploitative and suggests better pricing and regulation are needed.
The host believes billionaires aren't inherently bad and that wealth can be used for good. He praises philanthropy that directly helps communities, like a major donation to food banks, and argues that true wealth should be shared to benefit society, not hoarded.
The host noted that online discussions about Epstein have shifted toward focus on Jewish or Israeli politics, especially in right-wing circles. He sees this as a rebranding of the narrative, reducing the original concern about Epstein to a political issue rather than a serious accountability matter.
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