214. Did Trump Just Have His Worst Night In Politics?

Trump just had the most disastrous night in politics. I mean, he's got more losses in 2026 than all of the other election years combined. Even more Trump-backed contenders just lost their primaries, and his record at picking winning candidates this year is at his personal worst. So, are the Republicans finally done with Trump? And is Pete Hanks' wife really running the Department of War? After another chaotic revelation, we discuss how worried we should be about rampant cronism at the top of the U.S. military. This episode is brought to you by Yitoro. A tariff of spending plan, a regulatory change, it can all start just as the first line of a speech, but it sets in motion things that can reach far beyond Washington an unfold for years to come. That's right, Caddy. Mark has moved on expectations, not just events, investors are constantly weighing what a decision could mean for companies sectors and the wider economy. So Yitoro is an investing platform where you can access a wide range of markets and explore how political and economic developments can affect them. You can also learn from the global community of investors and see how people around the world are interpreting the same news. Welcome to the rest's politics, U.S. with Andy Scaramucci. Caddy is up in Scotland having a great vacation and today I am joined by a dear friend Ben Micellus, fellow Long Islander, now living out in L.A. He's the co-founder and host of the news network Midas Touch, which I have been a guest on your show by the way and I absolutely love your show, but you're out with a new book then and the title of the book is WTF America. Love that title, the way out of this hell and back to democracy and you've written it with your brother Johnny, who are the hosts of a number one podcast in the U.S. Midas Touch. Welcome to the show. What's going on with Trump right now? Is it cracking? Is the vessel cracking finally? He's at a 33% approval rating. He's the greatest president in the world. He's running a hot economy. Some people say, man, that he's better than George Washington and he's better. He's better than Abraham Lincoln. You know, I see my t-shirts today, Ben Dranken. Is Trump drunk on his own self-image bed? I think that the American people are all saying WTF right now and the American people are looking at their lives and they're asking very basic questions, which is, did Donald Trump do the things he said he was going to do? He made a lot of promises which we should all have known that this guy is a liar. The past was prelude to what he was going to do. We tried to warn not just of his business failings but of his moral character failings and that he's a both from a pathological, from a historical, from every perspective, a loser and he is showing those characteristics. What he's able to do is in elections, often one-on-one situations, use a combination of the media, his lies, the outrageousness to kind of distract from the day to day. And, you know, we are where we are. We're not going to, you know, relitigate that aspect of it, but I think the American people are looking. And the example I give in the book is the algae always comes back. I talk about how Trump wants to paint the reflecting pool blue. He says it's all going to be great. That's all you got to do. It's the perfect metaphor. You can say you're going to paint a blue and it's going to look beautiful, but the algae comes back and the American people are not just seeing the algae. They're seeing toxic algae here in abroad, never-ending wars. They're seeing Trump deliver and everything. And people are just pissed, man. And then when he and the people around him are telling most Americans who are struggling that their life is great, that this is the golden age and they're doing amazing. People don't like being gasoline. So I think we're in a moment right now that transcends even the day-to-day gamified politics that Trump wants to be in. And people are just saying my family is really hurting right now, man. And this ain't good. Ben, you talk about the trying to warn people. And you and I did a lot of shows in 2020 to discuss it. And by the way, you got me in trouble with Kevin McCarthy, right? Because I said, look at Kevin McCarthy, he's aging like grandpa monster. And do Kevin McCarthy's in trouble with Kevin McCarthy, though. So yeah, I mean, he was complaining to Aleister Campbell at Davos, Switzerland that I was picking on him on the podcast support guy, right? I mean, he's like, he's like, a pilot, you got to be able to take it, right? I've been rolled in broken glass. I don't care. I mean, what a big baby. But, but these guys, I want to start with Kevin. And I want to go to Ted Cruz, grandpa monster. I don't want to go to all of these characters that still stay tight with Trump. And what about the 33% of the people that are still supporting him? Give me in your mind's eye. Why? Why are they still doing that? And I could read the economic record. I'm going to go through these races. Okay. Trump had some big losses on Tuesday. This is totally different from 2018, 2024. I want to go over these with you. Trump back candidates and Wyoming and Florida lost the Republican primary voters have now rejected 10 Trump endorsed candidates. Listen, I think this is the beginning of the end for him. I'd like to get your take on it as well. But this is very different, Ben. It just feels very different. 2026. I feel like this whole thing is crumbling. And of course, I want to talk about Darlene Graham as well, who I don't think she could find Taiwan. And if a globe was spinning, she couldn't pointer her finger at Taiwan. Well, that's what Hannity said to her in the cleanup interview to saying that that was no one knows where Taiwan actually is on a map. It's like, I need to, but that's the cleanup on un Fox. Look, if you look at the type of candidates, Donald Trump was endorsing in Florida too. I mean, you had the Louth, right? The carpet bagger from Illinois and she lost. You had Corey Mills, who's background and personal issues are very similar to Trump may know a thing or two about that. But it's loyalty and weirdness to the mega cult. And I think people right now are sick and tired of people running the the 2024 playbook, which I was sick and tired of way before then. But people are sick and tired of, all right, you're doing the culture war thing. We're talking about Sophie Cunningham on WNBA. Okay, look, look, look, you told me you were going to make my life better and that things were going to be more affordable. And I'm here in Florida and my property taxes are through the roof. Sure, there's no state income tax here, but I'm getting taxed every other possible way here, you know, in this very regressive system I have in Florida and it's crushing me and I can't get insurance and utilities are incredibly expensive and I can survive right now. And I'm struggling out here and y'all are talking about some Sophie Cunningham being fouled and somehow this is why I should vote for you and I and then take what's happening in Florida and then also take a data point from Pennsylvania's house state house district 12 where a Democrat overperformed in the special there in a plus 18 Trump district and that's one 19 points in favor of the Democrat. And that's what we're seeing nationwide. Frankly, for the past 12 months to maybe even a little bit longer in these special elections that have been held, we're seeing Democratic candidates over perform plus 12 to plus 18. And so if that lines up, if that's special election result and what we're seeing then in Florida with this rejection because what the rejection shows you is that the mega bases in turning out the Trump endorsement isn't really there. So if you have the enthusiasm that we see in Pennsylvania house district 12 with the lack of enthusiasm we see in Florida, to me, I'm a simple guy Anthony. So I look at those kind of data points and say more than even what these polls are telling me those two factors tell me that this can be a type of wave coming in this midterm that we really haven't seen before. Then of course, there's historical precedent when you have an unpopular president or anybody in power, the other party has usually a strong midterm, but this is, I mean, in terms of Trump with independence, Trump with his own base on a lot of issues now as well. You know, I think that this is a sign of things to come. And it goes with my thesis, though, that the American people are looking at these things, actually even not so much through a political lens. It's why the Trump mega attacks and Florida and elsewhere on other people by labeling them isn't really having the same sting it used to. People are just saying, okay, look, I need health care. Like, I need health care. I can't see a doctor right now. Like, I need to see a doctor and my decision can't be, am I going to get a baloney and cheese sandwich for my kid? Or am I going to be able to see my physician? So, you can talk about all this W-W-I-Dark about. You told me you were going to fix that. And this is why I'm looking. Yeah, it's anti-Trump and it's anti-incumbency. And I think this is also a sign that that when it falls Ben, like everyone's, oh, he's impervious and this that and the other thing. But when it falls, it's terrible. And someone's not going to tell him this, but they should tell him this is, hey, you know, your combined losses already match all the previous years put together. No one's going to tell him that Ben, but somebody should tell him that because the gig is up. I mean, that's really my opinion of it. We'll have to see. You know, Katty and I are going to be traveling into five or six cities in October, right before the midterms doing some live shows. And I predict he's going to be in a hell storm of negativity by the time that we get there. But if you look at it historically, I mean, you saw the Pew poll. Trump is the least popular since 1953. And, you know, basically Nixon at Nixon's resignation and Trump right now are the same, but to our UK audience to our international audience, they'll still say, but how the hell is 33% I'm an American citizen living in New York. I'm saying it, you know, I think Trump support comes from economic anxiety. I think Trump's support comes from you elites didn't care about me. And now I've got this angry man acting as my avatar. He's the avatar of my anger. And so even though he's a flawed guy, I'm going to stay with him. And by the way, I probably shouldn't even be admitting this on on our podcast, but I have family members living out in blue collar long Island. You know, you grew up on Long Island. You know, I've got some of my cousins are clamming. Some of them are cutting deli meat, making pizzas. They sell like Trump. You know, you saw the Bruce Blakeman rally on Long Island at the police academy. I was revolted by it, but you know, that's the group of people that are still with him. I want to switch gears to Alex Vindman for a second because Alex Vindman ran and he lost by 12. And of course, just to remind everybody who was Alex Vindman, he was a whistleblower in Trump one. He is the one that filed the whistleblower complaint about Trump. He was on the call. And he heard Trump saying to President Zelensky from Ukraine, hey, what do you got corruption wise on Joe Biden? Which was interesting and good political instincts by Trump because he knew Biden was going to be the one that was going to knock him off. And that's why he hates Biden so much. But this is a guy who I read his book. I had him on my podcast. He's an honorable guy. The anti-Trump identity in that district, however, had no purchasing power bent. So what's your reaction to that being anti-Trump is not enough. And I think that was and is misconception. That was also true for George Conway. It's going to be true for everybody because the American people are saying, what are you doing for me? How are you fighting for me? Yeah, it's got to be more than anti-Trump right now. You have to be for the people and you have to be speaking to the people. Yeah, you have to be in their communities. You have to be listening to what the people are saying. I think listening is a very important thing that is often overlooked by politicians because people are telling you, as you said before, what their economic angst is. They're explaining to you very clearly the things that are going on. And I don't look at it as well, this type of candidate identifies as this group of liberal or this group of whatever. I just think the common denominator that we're going to see because I don't think people on the ground say, oh, are you this type of liberal? Are you this type of progressive? Or are you this type of concern? They're just saying, what are you doing to fight for me and deliver for me? And are you actually listening to me? And do you come off as authentic and fighting for me? And that's the type of candidate that is winning and in these elections, in these primaries, who's with the communities. I think what Trump is able to do in a bad way because he's a con artist is he can see people's economic fears and their fears. And he says, I'm going to fix it yet he is the person creating and driving those very early. It's how he knows about it. He's making it worse. You're bringing up such a good point. And I'm going to take you back a little. I was with Jeb Bush in 2016. And Jeb is a new Hampshire. We have 10 people in the room. I think five of them are family members and three of them are staffers. And there's maybe two people that walked into the room. It was a rough day. And Jeb says, I'm going to raise your taxes. I'm going to tell you the truth. I'm going to tell you what we need to do to solve this fiscal cliff. I'm then fast forward. I'm on the Trump campaign. We have 10,000 people, an overflow room. And Trump says I'm going to balance the budget in four years. We want the lie. Ben is the point. And Bush was telling people the truth. He couldn't get the people in the room. Trump was telling them the lie and they were bringing the red mega hats. I want to talk about Dorelene Graham. She's a pointed senator. She's Lindsey Graham's sister. She's in a debate in a runoff against Ralph Northam. They ask her a question about Taiwan. And she says, it's not my thing. You think a Democrat get away with that? You think Fox News would have allowed for that? I mean, it'd be like me getting on and you said, hey, Ben, we're going to talk a little bit. And I go, you know, Anthony, talking's not really my thing. I'm not really doing podcast and co-hosted. I'm more of a solo guy today. Okay. I'm like, well, you're co-hosting with me. Like your job as a United States senator is to do these things. And if you don't want to do these things, that's okay. There's a lot of Americans who don't understand why we should support Taiwan. The threat that China may be posing, the broader geopolitical ramifications, why Donald Trump removing the USS George Washington is a incredibly dangerous thing not to have a supercarrier in the Pacific. Why actually South Korea helped us with joint drills? Why the security umbrella in the Middle East relates to the security umbrella in South Asia? I go, that's fine. But you're running for the United States Senate. And my broader point with all of these positions is you don't need to become a public servant if you don't want to do this job. It's fine. There's lots of other things. And that's perfectly okay. But don't become a United States senator. If you don't know or you're not going to educate yourself in the most basic facts, but I'll tell you Ralph Norman or whatever his, his answer, he confidently answered the question. Let's just say he answered it after her with a degree of confidence, but truly was his answer better than her. I know she gets a lot of attention because she has no clue what she's talking about. But in many ways, his answer was more dangerous. Think about it. Who do you, who's better? He goes, this is Donald Trump's peace through strength that we are deterring China right now more than ever by what we're doing in Iran. That was Ralph's response. And I'm like, what the, I get that you've delivered it with a confidence, but your takeaway from Iran right now is that China's afraid of us. And that's why they're not invading Taiwan. How could you possibly evaluate the world of what's actually gone on in Iran, the what's happening with the mecca packed? How a security umbrella is forming with China running the Middle East and how with Kim Jong Un and China and Russia emboldened with the bricks block on the ascendancy and then go in response to Darlene. Donald Trump's made us much stronger in Asia, really like when Donald Trump threatened the trade war and China in two seconds said, yeah, we'll deprive you of rare arts. And Donald Trump was like, please, please let me, can I visit you? What can I do for you? You did the same thing with Canada this week. He linked on that day. He needs the aluminum and easy electricity. Before we go to the break, is this a blip for Trump? This disintegration of his influence? Or is this the beginning of a downward spiral? Look, the nations in a downward spiral because of him. And the question. I'm talking about his political influence. We both agree on the downward spiral of a contribute that we have to fix. The short answer is yes, but how do we get out of this? Because the next step is blame. That's where this goes. So yes, it is in the gutter, it is in the gutter, but when we have to be prepared for step two, which is now in the fallout, he blames everybody, and how do we make sure that we don't fall for this crap again of, oh, it's this person's fault. I was so close to fixing it. I was going to do it. There's a trillion dollar infrastructure that's been built media wise. And I say that because it's in the compounding aggregate of what's been built since the 60s. That's going to pump in not just in America. We talk about in the book internationally that these forces of authoritarianism are back on the rise. And there's going to be a view to try to keep propping them up because let's be honest. While there are people who are doing well, there's a small group of people who are close to him, who have made a lot of money and who are in those inner circles, who are there when Trump's creating the dips that he's buying. There are people with a lot of money who have made more money while most people suffer. Yeah, no question. He's calling out crypto tokens and stocks from the Roosevelt rumor, the White House, I mean, never seen anything like it. All right, we're going to take it break. And we come back with Ben Macellis. We're going to talk about Pete Hexx White, the general clonies him that's going on. And whether or not the Hexx, the family Hexx are they endangering the Department of Defense? Welcome back to the rest of politics, US, with me, Anthony Scaramucci, Caddy's on vacation in Scotland. God bless her. And Ben Macellis is joining us, filling in for Caddy K. We'll have him back. It's okay. It's like hard to replace Caddy there, Anthony. You do a great. I'm a little surprised at the LA glam, though. I mean, you're looking pretty terrific. Okay. I got it. I got it. I got to get into it. Looking at you, I got to get in the gym when the podcast is over going to do 20 pushups just to reinvigorate myself. But good news when you're a private company. No one knows the makeup budget that goes into this in the morning. They were. My audience would tell me, Ben, you've been wearing these are new glasses, which took me two years to get. You wear these scratched glasses that look foggy. And what are you doing? I hear it. I hear it all, but I wear t-shirts. I want to talk to people like the right here in my living room, and I'm sitting here in my t-shirt. That was my idea. But anyway, Pete Hex's wife, Jennifer, is a former Fox news producer. So I guess sets her major qualification to have our national security secrets and to be part of the strategic planning of what's going on at the Department of Defense at the Pentagon. But New York Times dropped the bomb. And I really hope they applaud them for their reporting, Ben. We learned an in depth and in detail how much cronyism is going on in the administration, but specifically in the Pentagon. She took a new role. She's chair of the president's military spouse commission. Okay. It's an unpaid position aimed at improving the lives of military families. And now she's been overstepping. She's involved in staffing interviews, sitting in on military meetings with British allies, and even pushing through the Pentagon's controversial barring of reporters. And listen, I think people do know this because I've mentioned it on the podcast, but it's worth repeating. I was a member, I'm still a member, but it was on the board of the business executives or national security for a period of time. I've traveled to Afghanistan and Iraq with our troops. We have a swath of generals that have either resigned in protest or they've been kicked out and fired by Trump and Hexeth. And my friends that are in the military community tell me this is done existential damage to the ethos of the Department of Defense. And it would probably take 20 years to rebuild this because if you've got a 55 year old who's got another 10 years to go, he quits because he's had enough. It's going to take 20 years to get the 35 year old lieutenant colonel up to speed on everything that the general knows. But what do you think of this Hexeth story? And what do you think of the cronism that's going on in the administration? I think the Hexeth story with his wife is part of a broader story as you alluded to with the destruction of America's ability to lead in a post world to architecture that the United States created, which makes the betrayal feel extra worse to our allies or former allies. Whether you like the post world or to architecture or not, it was created by the United States. We were the leaders of it and we were also the beneficiaries of it, and we brought all of these countries along with us in it. Again, there's a lot to critique. We can do shows and books purely on America's excursions that were awful and catastrophic, whether it was the war in Iraq or what happened in Afghanistan after its central mission was abandoned. But that was the architecture. And so to so callously abandoned America's leadership, and we've seen it now across the world. And it's beginning, it's emanating in DC and in the surrounding areas in the Pentagon by bringing in someone like Hexeth, who was someone who couldn't run one of the big flags in addition to all his personal failings and the very serious allegations against Hexeth. He couldn't run a non-profit for veterans, and he was pushed out. And it was a very small non-profit for veterans, I might say. If you can't lead that leadership character, you should not be leading. Why? Because character is pralue. So it's not a shocker that somebody like that. And I think it was maybe former president Obama who said, "When you're put in positions that are big, it accentuates your qualities." And so we're seeing that destructiveness writ large. And one of the problems that you hit on is this cronyism of people who make him feel good, whether it's Jennifer for Trump, whether it's Natalie, you know, or whoever, at the expense of experts. What's Hexeth doing? Bring it in the Jennifer's, who's he firing? People like Randy George, or star, Army Chief of Staff. Really good guy. Randy and Randy's wife were known in the military community as just about the most popular, well-liked, beloved people. That's why you got fired, by the way. That's why he got fired. You know, you have General Donnie you, well-liked, well-loved. The last man in Afghanistan is what he's known as. He wasn't even involved in the extraction. He was there to help people afterwards because that was the kind of guy, you know, he was. Lieutenant General Costanz in Europe, CQ Brown, Jr. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, who Trump promoted during his first term, Biden did as well, but Hexeth and Trump have been getting rid of black generals and female leadership within the military because they're black and they're female is what many people, including me, and my opinion suspect is the reason for it. Now, how is this impact in us abroad? To your point, this is having a completely harmful impact in the worst types of ways. We hear about emphasizing, if you sign up to be a service member, you get early access to Grand Thezer's Story, Grand Theft Auto, Access 6. And meanwhile, Donald Trump's like, you know what I don't like? Electromagnetic launchers for the F-35s and the, what do you mean you don't like it? The Navy likes it. What do you mean you don't like it? I want steam. I want you, you want steam. What do you mean you? What the hell is that even mean? Yeah. I want a steam catapult at battleships. He wants battleships, coal-fired battleships. I like battleships between 1920 to 1940. I like the aesthetic. I want to get, I don't like stealth. He says, I don't like stealth. They fired failing over that because, you know, the back reporting on John Phalan, the former secretary of the Navy that they fired, he wanted to go out and have multiple bids on the ships and Trump was telling them, no, no, you're going to go give no bid contracts on my buddies. And so Phalan was like, OK, well, I can't do that because that's actually breaking the law. So they fired him. But there's another detail in here that I think a lot of people, no ones catching this in the reporting. And it was very subtly put into the New York Times. And that is the shaperoning. It turns out that Jennifer Hegseth has a shaperone.com, right? Come to Jennifer Hebseth. She'll travel with you and stop you from drinking and prevent you from your bad behavior. And I think this is something that I think we need to be thinking about with Hegseth. He's such a flawed guy and he's a heavy drinker. Everybody knows that about him. Apparently, he's cleaned up his act. I hope he has. But this is something for me. I don't understand how the Congress never steps in on stuff like this with any type of reprimand or oversight or shining a spotlight. It took the New York Times to pulled this out. And by the way, Jennifer's job when she got to the panic hump was to kick out all the reporters. You're down to a very thin group of reporters that are pro Trump or pro hexeth that are in the room with them now. And so I give a lot of credit to the New York Times for digging this stuff out because people are so pissed off. They they went at the times and said, Hey, man, this is the stuff that's going on inside the building. But I have a very dear friend who is a West Point graduate, has helped West Point and the American military for four decades. He is crying. He is brokenhearted at the damage to the ethos, the culture. You mentioned the security umbrella. Trump doesn't even understand the security umbrella. You know, the exercises off of South Korea are not just for South Korea. They're also for Japan. Okay, the stuff going on in Taiwan, there's a nexus between Japan, South Korea and Taiwan. It's not in its isolation that we do these things. And yet, when you when you speak to Trump or you listen to Trump talk about it, he's very myopic in terms of how he thinks about it. Well, look what South Korea did. And we'll talk about the hexeth this what South Korea's president do. Issued a response and said, that's actually great news for us because we think that we need to move beyond the United States at this point as well. Then you had him also announced that he'd be meeting the South Korean president with Wang Yi, China's foreign minister. And okay, we're gonna meet with China. Appreciate it. We understand where this future security umbrella is going. We get it. See you later. And if you want to see how Canada's responded as well and how a lot of the nations in the world are responding, they saw how the so-called security umbrella worked in the Middle East where the United States can't even feed our own troops aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln. You know, our logistics is so bad. Our bases didn't have the interceptors, does don't have the fads to stop Iran from striking it. So right now it's just a matter for most countries and our military generals and admirals know this. The rest of the world just wants to know it ain't easy to disentangle post-World War II architecture. So even someone like Trump, it's hard to break it so quickly, but he did a good job breaking it in a bad way year one. And now we're really seeing it disintegrate. Now I like to think about this just in terms of, again, leadership, you know, as Americans or as people watching and listening in the UK or wherever you're from. If you think about the World Cup, don't you want the best players out on the field? I mean, that shouldn't be what's their political view and what's this? Don't you want the best people playing the game? We've taken out all of the top players and we've thrown in people who are like JV, but if you put a JV team against the World Cup team, the World Cup team, even if they're not the best World Cup team is going to destroy the JV team. So if you put the United States against Iran and you give the US the best weapons, Iran develops a very clear strategy while Donald Trump's posting AI memes and firing the Secretary of Navy, the Army Chief of Staff, during the middle of the freaking war, also that Donald Trump and Netanyahu started, but you have this going on. And Iran has a plan that Trump was warned about too by people he got rid of. Here's what they're going to do with the straight of her moves. Here's what they're going to do with Bob El Mandab. Here's how they're going to utilize the Houthis and Hisbola and the and this group in that group. Here's their succession plan. You can decapitate 20 of them or 30 of them, but these are the guys that are going to step in and replace them. And you have the Iranian Foreign Minister now literally giving speeches explaining that we as a middle power, a self acknowledged middle power, we we bled out the munitions of the American military and and something that's also under reported. And you know this, Ben, their first missile strikes were into our naval supply depots. Okay, so they wiped out our naval supply depots and now you've got these these men and women on these aircraft carriers, they can't get supplied. We're running supplies from Diego Garcia, which is literally 2,200 miles away from the where the combat zone is immediately hit by rain, the fifth fleet, which is where a lot of it comes out of. And then we pretended like they didn't do that. Well, we had no reporters in the rooms of Hexeth was saying we're annihilating them. Trump said that we've annihilated them, but they're still controlling things. Where do we strike? We struck Manab and slaughtered, and this is related. We slaughtered 168 little girls in an elementary school, which Trump and Hexeth show no remorse for. And while that gets a lot of attention, we also slaughtered 17 little girls playing volleyball in Lamar and we tested a new Pentagon pellet weapon that explodes above and shoots shrapnel and killed 16 to 17 little girl volleyball players who were at a gym, which is still being, you know, which is no. New York Times did a report on what went down and analyzed it. It breaks, it breaks my heart. And honestly, it's stuff like this that you and I know about that breaks my heart. But here's the thing Anthony to when you talk about the Hexeth and this is what pains me is that I see a freaking loser, like a loser of a human being. Somehow these losers were able to kind of capture a narrative about redefining the winner in the United, not internationally, but in the US. The rest of the world's like, y'all became a bunch of freaking loser. Like, how did this happen? And we need to really get out of this mess. And for me, I watch this behavior and I'm just like, I'm mortified. I'm humiliated by what this country has become, not as a Democrat or an independent or this or that. But as someone who goes, this guy is, what he's talking about doing testosterone injections in the military with his wife. And he's talking about, they're getting rid of the drone prog. The story this morning was that our military is getting rid of general Randy George's drone program where we were studying what Ukraine was doing in order to have a first rate drone warfare capability because the new guy Hexeth says has a back-to-basics approach like it's Boshino in World War II. What are we doing? It's crazy. It's crazy. Back to basics, man. Back to basics. I'm talking to him. Trump loves it though. I mean, Ben, he loves the look of Pete Hexeth. You know, he loves the look, you know. And that's what it is. It's about central casting. Well, talk about central casting. You're an amazing podcast host. Where can people find you with the Midas Touch? You're out in Spotify. You're on Apple. Wherever you get your podcast. And the title of your book is WTF. And it's coming out in October. And I got to tell you, Ben, you're a dear friend. And I've had a lot of fun with you on your show. And I'm really happy that you came on my and Caddy's show. I miss Caddy over me, but, you know, whatever next time. Caddy will be back next week. But if you can't wait to see or sign up and listen to the full series of JD Nance, all episodes are out now. Go to theressesPoliticsUS.com to sign up. Goodbye. We'll see you next week. Have a great weekend.