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Did Evan Fall Off? The Future of CboysTV, & Ryan Being A Bad Influence on CJ

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Did Evan Fall Off? The Future of CboysTV, & Ryan Being A Bad Influence on CJ

The transcript blends personal stories of extreme gambling loss with a detailed account of an adventurous elk hunting trip in Colorado. The speaker recounts a 24-hour gambling session where they lost $7,000 despite brief wins, illustrating how quickly online gambling can drain wealth and how addictive it is. This experience contrasts sharply with the physical and mental challenges of elk hunting, where terrain, thick brush, and high-stakes observation make spotting animals nearly impossible. Despite the difficulty, the hunt culminates in a successful bear hunt, which is later repurposed into a rug, highlighting both the thrill and unpredictability of the activity. The narrative also covers a brief but vivid visit to Nashville, where the speaker notes the overwhelming presence of country music and flashy cars, yet finds the experience fragmented and exhausting due to lack of meaningful interaction. A key takeaway is the warning against gambling, with the host emphasizing that such losses are emotionally and financially devastating. Instead, they recommend disciplined alternatives like investing in stable stocks as a safer, more controlled form of excitement. The overarching theme is the contrast between impulsive, high-risk activities—like gambling or unstructured social events—and the deeper satisfaction found in disciplined, intentional experiences such as hunting or mindful investing. These stories collectively serve as a cautionary tale about self-control and the importance of choosing experiences that provide lasting value over fleeting, risky thrills.

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Gambling is probably the quickest way to lose any kind of wealth. You have straight up some kids Just making tiktok saying I fell off. See you in out of the whole line of defense between everybody else in that pair Yeah, I only gambled for 24 hours straight I lost all seven Do you feel like the Cheeto army is switching up on you? Well, what's up boys? Welcome back. Good to be back. Nice to you kind of I missed you a subtle bad grip Do you guys run a pod when I was gone? We did Dave's wasn't the same without you. What did I miss? Give me like a just a spark notes Ken's running an uncrossedables ad Yep We're paying good money for it if the brand manager can line it up. Yeah, we're paying we're paying for him to basically have a Super Bowl ad We did a full deep dive on Evans gambling losses. I thought he was up That's how fast I don't I don't think I was down that bad. I just said I honed it into like if I'm down. It's not that much. Okay. I wouldn't say too much of a deep dive But we honed it in there. It's crazy how much can change in a week. Yeah, tell us about your trip now. Yeah, dude It was awesome. So what two podcasts ago. I had Mentioned that I was going on an elk hunt didn't really know what to expect never got on an elk hunt before it was Way different than any kind of hunting. I've ever done like white tail deer hunting. Not so much more extensive Oh, yeah, so like you're sitting in a stand for white tail, right? You're just waiting for them to come I have nothing wrong. We go home for lunch. Yeah, we're Ryan or Ryan driving home. Yes, exactly But yeah, elk hunting was such a different experience. It's hard to explain to you guys how much work it actually is Where were you at? Colorado like outside of Grand Junction Colorado where Gavin's grandpa lives Looks like you're in the middle of nowhere So we're like staying in this canyon like in this lodge in this canyon, right? And we are hunting on top of the canyon So you would do this gnarly switchback up the side of the mountain like I have experienced gnarly terrain with everything that we do, right? Mm-hmm. So we'll be like dirt biking like in the mountains, right? This switchback which they do every single day to get up to the hunting spot was So insane. I couldn't believe that normal people do it like worse than packs out of no, no, you have to walk it or what? No, you you're in a side-by-side going up it. I actually took a video that first morning, but But uh Okay, well you gotta keep in mind though is like usually when we're going into gnarly situations I'm aware like this is just what you got to do when you're doing this kind of shit, right? Yeah, well going hunting I didn't expect it to be quite like that and Very quickly realized so this is like the side-by-side you're doing the dark going up in the dark. Yep It's like slightly snowing so it's pretty slippery and you're going up a straight-up wall That is pretty much all shale rock with a cliff on each on the left side. Who's driving my guy? The guy is okay So they aren't throwing someone. Yeah, so no, so they do it every day, right? So I guess just like to preface like people go out There was like seven six hunters. Okay, so there's six guides driving. Yeah, okay. Yeah, so like each hunter has a guide So like on this hunt My fiance's family has like been doing it every single year like my Soon-to-be father-in-law is like a huge hunter huge hunter. He's he's been on all these different types of hunts bear sheep elk and uh This is like a hunt that like he started bringing like the family along with so Greta's done it for the last like five years So she's always explained it to me like yeah, it's it's pretty gnarly, but when I thought about it I was like well, it's how gnarly could it be like yeah? She hasn't experienced what you have in terrain That's what I thought yeah, yeah, and then we we get into it. I'm like oh shit. This is like ass puckering like I'm like on edge, right? So we finally get to the top of the ridge and then we hopped in like these Toyota trucks that are like a lot quieter than a side-by-side obviously So you could like sneak around and they should have our little mini golf carts up there Yeah, I told him that way again. So you guys need to be more electric What you do basically though is you get on top of the ridge and there's basically just like a spine that goes down and then there's like smaller ridges off each spine so like the elk will hang out at The bottom of these spines a lot of times and there's brush and trees that is like 10 feet tall So your vantage point at the top of the ridge is looking down the valley and then hopefully you can see them on the other side Right, so if you're on the left side you're looking across the valley to the right side to try and have like a better vantage point But a lot of times they move like to the bottom of it So the whole time you basically get out to this ridge and then you just walk Down this ridge and you're constantly like glassing with binoculars across the valley looking for these elk Are they hard to spot? They're so hard to spot because the you gotta keep in mind like the brush is like 10 feet tall A lot of times they're like color as it yeah Yeah, so like we get out there and like the first morning We're basically just like glassing around so like here's an example video of like looking around You can see all the elk on the side of the hill here. Oh, but that's how far out you are. Oh, okay Super zoomed in, but when you're out like this yet you don't see any are you rocking the new iPhone? No, it's yeah It's really good zoom though. So like all these elk are at you know, they might be like 2000 yards away, but I'd be so bad at that. I can't see the freaking catch up in the fridge. I'd be so bad So it's really difficult to like train your eyes to start looking for it like they send Because they blend into the the hill and then a lot of times you just can't see them because the brush is so thick And so you're glassing around at like the top of the ridge looking at like 2000 yards away And then if you don't see anything You move through another spot or you might hike down the hill glass because it's like all There's so many different like valleys and different ridges where it might look like it's like all flat But then once you get a little bit lower you realize that it's like all like this So if you're right here looking at it you miss them the guides were so so dialed of being able to spot them So we'd like drive at the top of the ridge and one of the guides Kramer I was like if there's elk out here this dude's gonna see you with his naked eye like two miles away Ensuring off like each time we'd be driving along and be like there's a bull. I'm like where? I'm looking through my binoculars and he's like right out there and he's not even looking through his binoculars I'm like so like guys are just so trained to just spot like the color is spot a tiny bit of movement and then they dial in from there So I was with Greta's whole family and like all of her siblings and I got to be a part of like the stock and kill for all of their Elks. Oh cool It started with Greta's like little sister. We start stocking it so we like Walk probably a mile down the ridge and then you walk down the actual hill To try and get within like 500 yards like if you're within 500 yards of the elk like that's considered like A takable shot. Yeah, it's pretty far right 500 yards is an insane shot. Okay, like you would never shoot a white tail deer at 500 yards But out there like you're just shooting like heavier guns and they What are you shooting bigger 300 win Meg? They're bigger targets. Obviously an elk's huge right and it's really difficulty at closer because they're moving They're moving if you're upwind from them. They're gonna smell you they have insane ears They're gonna hear you coming so like if you're within 500 yards, they're like take the shot Are you guys talking out there? You're literally just silently moving around just yeah, you're talking Because you gotta keep in mind like you're a long ways away from them So you're whispering but then once you start like stocking them then you're like whispering you're locked in quieter You're sneaking like getting low and so got to be a part of sounds fun Greta's little sister's bull which was massive She shoots it drops it and then got to be a part of Greta's bull which was massive she drops it and then Greta's brother's bull was crazy too So like to be in a part of all these different bulls before like it was my time So like the whole time we're like looking for like the biggest bull basically Yeah, and each time that we found it Throughout like the five days Greta's siblings were like the people up to get it We were kind of grew punting like me Greta And her two siblings were all together and so it was just kind of like one by one like who's up kind of thing And it gets down to the second to last day Like everyone had pretty much tagged out except for me each not a good look for your first trip No gratitude to bigger bull than you you're not you didn't you or did you not even take a shot didn't have a shot Didn't have like the opportunity got it And so we go out at night and one of the guides is like there's a bear at like 500 yards And I'm like what where I'm looking I'm looking Can't see it and he's like that's a nice bear. I think you should take it. So I had a bear tag and In case you see a bear it's pretty it's a lot cheaper to get a bear tag It's right like if you're elk hunting you're probably not gonna shoot a bear and so we stocked this bear down to like 300 yards to 80 and he's like all right. I get all set up. He's like all right. You got it I'm like dude. I cannot see this bear and he's like all right. It's right here You see this this twig that's leaning over to the left I'm like yeah, and he's like okay. You see the four inch black triangle next to that twig I'm like no he's like right here. He takes a picture of any circles, and I'm like, dude, no. I can't see it. - Crazy. - What the fuck? - And he's like, it's right there, and if you shoot that four-inch triangle, you'll hit the bear, right in the right shoulder. And I was like, all right, I trust you. Like this guy was so dialed. I mean, what's the worst? Well, where's the good happen to you, miss? But hit the dirt. - Yeah, but you don't wanna take a shot that you're not. - That's your gonna hit, yeah. - You're not gonna kill it. - Yeah, it's like inhumane. You know, you wanna, you don't wanna injure any of them. And so I take the shot, and he just goes, I lost him. I'm like, oh, this isn't good. - I don't, I never had it. - I was like, I was like, well, that's not good. It's like quiet for like 20 more seconds, and he's like, I got him. Like, where is he? He's like, all right, you see that pine tree that's lit up with like the top half of it, and then go up three feet up another, and then to the left two feet, and he's in the brush. I'm like, god damn it, more brush, dude, I can't see him. And I have a, I have a scope video. - So you did or didn't hit it the first shot? - We didn't know if I hit it on the first shot, 'cause it got up real quick, but I'll show you the video of it getting up real quick and then describe it to you. - I can probably show it right up and tell the point you pulled the trigger. - Yeah, it's really cool. They can put their phones on the spotting scope, and then record through the spotting scope. - Oh, that's lit. - Kind of a little cheat code. - Obviously, if you're not into hunting, it's probably not as interesting, but I know a lot of the listeners are. It was just a whole new experience that I was excited about, so I hope a lot of people that bear in that too. - Oh, I see him, I see him. - All right, so there's a bear in here. So we're at 300 yards. And yeah, you see that twig that's leaning to the right, right there? Well, there's a little four inch triangle that he was telling me to aim at right there. So I end up taking a shot, and the bear, you can see, hops up, looks at his back, and he's like, what the hell was that? - That is not what I thought the bear, I thought the bear was way further to the left. - Dude, it's definitely hard to see, and you gotta keep in mind, this is a spotting scope, so it's got way more magnification than your scope. - Oh, okay. - I'm like, yep, we lost him, and then he goes, oh, I think I got him again, I think I got him again. How did he spot him? - He's in there now. - Okay. - So you can see his head moving, right? I'm like, dude, I don't see him still. So he's like, all right, see that pine tree, which is in the bottom right corner, up three feet, and to the left two feet, and you see him moving, and I'm like, no, he's like, just stay on him, just stay on him, he's moving around, I think he might be hit, and I think he's gonna start moving here, and so I start watching him, and I'm like, I think I got him, I think I got him, 'cause I'm like to the left of this pine tree right now, and he pops out, this is the first time I see him, and then I take the shot, right as he pops into scope. - Drop his ass, look at that, and now he's down. - Gret is behind me, and she's just watching through her by nose, and she goes, his feet, his feet are in the air, he's rolling down the hill, I can see his butt. (laughing) He's not moving, he's not moving, and then we're like, oh, we got him. So we're like sitting there, and we're celebrating, and he was like, all right, let's go get him. You know, he gave it a little bit of time, and my guy goes, you got more bullets? I was like, yeah, he's like, rack one in the chamber, and I was like, okay, and he was like, be ready. I was like, oh shit, okay. You don't really have to worry about that with white tail or elk, or really any other animals for it to charge you. - Oh shit, but yeah, the bear would. - Yeah. - Makes sense. - Are the guides, at least have a side arm or something? - Usually, yeah. - But you weren't bear hunting, so no. - Oh, yeah. - And, 'cause I asked him that, I was like, you got a gun, and he's like, no, we weren't on this mission. I was like, oh, fuck, okay. All right. So I'm like, finger on the safety, ready to, and like, I'm coming up hunting for rabbits. - Yeah. - Just, man, I was like, shitting my pants, honestly. I didn't see him go down. I didn't see him. - We're kind of the whole line of defense between everybody else in that bear. - Yeah, so I was like, man, I really hope that I got him on that second shot, and we end up like popping out of the brush. Like, you can't see barely at all in front of you, and we pop out of the brush and then he's laying on the ground. I was like, oh, holy shit. It was like more of a thrill walking up to it than the actual experience of like pulling the trigger. - So what do you do with that bear now? - If the bear was like super far out there, you'd probably, you know, you'd quarter and skin it on the hill, 'cause the bear weighed about 300 pounds. So, to pick this bear up and try and get it to a spot that you could get it with a vehicle. - You call it Gavin? - It's a long ways. - He doesn't like manual labor. - Yeah. - Yeah, I don't let you think it up. - I'll do it if I have to. (laughing) - But we got like the side by side within probably 300 yards of it. - Oh, okay. - And we gutted it out on the hill and then tied paracord around its paws and then around its teeth. And one guy held up the head. I was on one of the paws. Another guy was on the other paw, and we ran down the hill. Like it's fast as we could, 'cause we're pulling it through like thick brush the whole time, right? And so we're just like going with momentum of like us falling down the hill. The bear like sliding a little bit and then like the bear would catch a little bit of momentum and like it took one of us out. - Holy shit. - And so one of the guys is riding the bear down the hill as the other two of us are trying to pull him and the bear then like through the bear. - Yeah, 'cause like this thing's like once you get's going, you want to keep it going. So what do you think you're going to do with the bear now? Like mount it? - They are turning it into like a rug. - Sweet. - That'd be really cool. - The bear though, it obviously feeds on young elk. So like. - Yeah, it was a good thing to take out. - They're still to get rid of the bear, 'cause it probably saved 20 elk. - Wow. - So they just ate honey and more red shirts. - Some of them did. - Oh, do you think that bear was? - That bear was like three or four. - So can you eat like bear meat? Is that a thing? - You can, but you want to like cook it through 'cause they carry some disease. - Carnivores. - So are you even like getting that meat? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's really good, it's a little greasy, but you do like 50/50 with beef, it's super good. - Yeah, so the bear was a crazy side quest. - No kidding. Yeah, when you said that picture at like, what came through to us, I think got like two a.m. or something like that, like. - You hunt until dark and it's an hour behind here. And then by the time you're off the mountain and down and you get the bear put away like it's late. So like every night it was super late. And then what time are you getting up, just really early? Five, cheese, lees. - What was you got to get on those ridges before sun comes up? - Yeah, next day I'm still the only one that hasn't shot an elk and it was like all hands on deck to get this dude as elk. - Really? - Well yeah, they were like, you know, all the different guides for like all the different people there, they'd all tagged out. So it was like all guides, hands on deck. - Yeah, I mean it was, you were the man of deck. - And all the help you could get. - Yeah, and so we like spend the whole morning glassing around and you're basically just doing the whole, the whole time you're just like, you're going to a ridge, you're hiking down the ridge, glassing at the other side. If you don't see anything, you go to a different spot, you glass and like that first morning, we had seen this huge bull crest, this hill, probably a mile and a half over, right? 'Cause if you're high enough, you can see forever, especially with these good binoculars. It might look like it's pretty close, but it's really a mile. - And we're like, all right, let's go and chase this guy down, like this is probably our best bet. We height down like two miles down this ridge and the whole thing is downhill. So I'm like, oh, this is gonna suck coming back. - 'Cause you gotta go back up and out. - And we end up like getting down to the spot that we saw it crest the hill. And the dude was just gone, they just vanish. Like you're like, I know it's here, but you can't find it. Which is so frustrating, 'cause again, the brush is so thick, you can just lose them. If they lay down and their antlers just look like twigs, they're just gone. Do you use calls at all? - Yeah. - Yeah, but like, if they're not in rut, it's not effective to like get 'em up and moving, but they did the call like so this bear is sitting there in the brush and my guide is sitting there doing like calls to try and get the bear to like peak his interest to stand up and move around and wasn't doing it. And then he was like, all right, I'm gonna do like a dead rabbit call. So he just like like the most obnoxious noise you've ever heard in your life. You could still see like the bear like move its head. They just like a tired dog. And he was like, I can't believe this thing isn't moving right there. So that's why then we resorted to. Like you obviously try and do as much as you can without taking like a blind shot, but you wouldn't do that with an elk. They wouldn't tell you to take a blind shot like that. But yeah, so we end up walking two miles. We don't find this elk. And at this point, I'm like, damn, I'm really about to be the only dude who did that. Everybody following you around too. I'll let me my worst nightmare. So we hike out sucks. And then we go back out that night. At this point, it's just like somebody's over here. Somebody's over here. Somebody's over there and like everyone's trying to find an elk basically. And they're just not moving. Like they were like, this is like terrible conditions because it's sunny out and it's windy. And they don't move when it's sunny and windy. And it gets down to like the last 30 minutes. And we like bomb across the property to like the other side of the property. And one of my guides was like, there's a big five by six over this hill. Like this is your elk, let's go kill it. And I'm like, at this point had pretty much just chocked it up like, as an elk. Yeah, I'm not getting an elk, but it's all good. I just was like, yeah, it's just not going to happen. 30 minutes. Yeah. And we crest the hill and sure enough, my elk is just at the bottom. of this hill at like 350 yards and uh they're like gets that up gets that up when you're taking shots like that they want to like they call it build a house so like you sit down you get like the the bipod the tripod set up you know on the front of the gun and then they just start shoving as many backpacks like underneath your arms to get you as stable as possible like makes sense if you're not stable taking up for 500 yards shot you know if you're moving around just this much it's feet at that that length or could be yards you know that's that's a long shot so like they want you like as stable as possible which I'd seen like all the other hunters had shots like that and then of course we get into this position they're like you got to shoot from your knees and I'm like oh damn it so I like prop down get a stable as I can and they're like all right you got like minutes left like we don't have time to sit there and watch this thing and try and get in a better position because there was legit like three minutes of shooting time left holy cat they're like if you feel stable take the shot and hit him once he keeps moving like I like hit him just exactly where you want to hit him like right on the lungs hit him he keeps moving I hit him again he keeps moving like these things are so tough holy shit okay the third shot I hit him again and then he goes down like this dude took three shots and he was still moving on a huge gun yeah and so turn around and like the whole crew was with like I was the last one to shoot so like everyone is with at this point and we're just celebrating and everyone's just stoked you know I'm sure everyone was like oh it's probably not going to happen at this point and then there's three minutes left oh that's so sexy on the baza yeah literally a buzzer beater and it was huge so when do you get the meat yeah when do we get the meat that's a good question I don't know because it'll get processed in Colorado and then like shipped here and then you know it's obviously with the rest of the crew that that shot so let's just take up like a full freezer just like a full sprinter man yeah they actually yeah one now kind of fills up a whole freezer if you'd like take all of it so are we gonna get some of this meat or not yeah yeah for sure yeah absolutely here's mine walking through the scope here again I don't think we can show this but that's so dope that the guides pop that was the first pop that's just like they do and then here's the second you know like think that you just have like HD footage of your your hunt here it's pretty amazing yeah so he's looking directly at me I'm right next to him oh yeah oh it's exactly like big buck hunter that's what I was gonna say when he jumped and he kind of hopped up on his legs I was like oh shit dude big buck hunter got it right and then yeah the last one how old did you think this guy was five and how long do I like live if they so you shoot him again while he's down here yeah they'll live to like nine or ten okay so he's like yeah middle middle the road on his life that's so sick what a it was awesome experience dude it was it was so awesome I was hooked at the end of it but I got to be a part of like all the other the hunts with like all the other siblings and I was just like so okay with not shooting one too just because I mean it was such an awesome we already got that bear yeah yeah yeah I was I was like if I don't get one it's okay I definitely don't feel like I got chip on the experience like it was it was so fun but when you're deer hunting they call it buck fever like when when the deer comes out and you get on it hardly things straight you can't think straight you can't hardly breathe your your heart is like pounding like you've never felt it before and it was like that for elk except for like on steroids oh I bet especially with the buildup of five days of hunting into this moment down to the last minute first time you've like scoped up on one to take a shot yeah yeah yeah yeah so yeah it was a hunt of a lifetime okay and like a bowl of a lifetime like so lucky you gonna put it up in your living room or something like that I'm gonna have it euro mounted and then what's a euro mount where it's like the skull and then cool yeah so not like a shoulder mount is when it's like the you know shoulders forward yeah the whole head you know how they make it right is that I think I saw dirty jars the head don't they well it's like different series of bugs and but they dunk it and that's my favorite of it just like dissolves it or they eat it they eat it yeah and then at a certain point yeah you use some chemical and you bleach it it's like the cheapest but that's not the point of it it's like it's a cool yeah I agree like and doing a whole shoulder mount like that's a big thing to have in your living room well that's the thing dude is these these ochers so big you guys I mean it would be if you had it on this wall the nose of the owl could be like right here so yeah I mean it should be a lot to have a skull is a coolest cool way to do it yeah they're just massive animals so was that your fiance's first elker she got in one prior no she's gotten a couple before and uh Greta's was just like so much bigger than mine and mine is so huge massive and Greta's is bigger that's so cool yeah that is sweet that thing is huge how many miles were you hiking on this whole endeavor a lot I don't have exact stats of it but like it was yeah but going to health I don't know how accurate this is I clicked on the health app on my phone once in a middle finger popped up so about 20 that's a lot of that's a lot of steps yeah well hard steps with gear on and everything especially at elevation like that's dang dude it makes me want to do that I I went on an outcome with my dad like when he had cancer so it was really hard but we didn't get an out and we hunted for three and a half days and so you like you know yeah yeah hard it is but it was funny like you you get the two mule deer tags when you get your elk tag or at least we did in Montana it was just funny like at any given moment they're like well I always take the mule deer there you turn one always take the mule deer there man they are dumb mule deer are even dumb or Ryan you be so cooked if I lived in Montana oh you be so cooked actually I need one of those ranch bumpers on the front of my rig yeah yeah you need to full on like a pock elliptic setup on your truck I just put like a skewer on it like for bailin hey you know the hay bails and then I could just grab them and then I could just drive them over to the butcher shop they could just take care of it I'm gonna say the fire pit but but your shop you look something to protect the sides as well dude I was trying to think well I was out there I was like man this would be so fun to get to experience with you guys I was like who would enjoy it Mike you'd obviously enjoy it I don't think Ken would I don't think Ryan would it's not that good with guns but I think CJ you'd actually enjoy it I think I'd like hunting I think you would I think you would really really appreciate just like it's slowing down it's not anything like that crazy but you get like the thrill of it the experience of it great exercise yeah it's great exercise but it's just so fulfilling I've been trying to get into hunting but growing up I was always playing hockey during like hunting season so I just never win got my hunter safety and then by the time I got done with hockey then we were kind of filming videos and you can't really film hunting for YouTube you can but it just doesn't it doesn't work and we can't really do that on our channel so I've just never prioritized it right I'd like to do it though but just like realistically I'd have to take time off and I probably shouldn't start with the elk hunt I'd probably should just start with some basic deer hunting around here yeah so could we not land could we hunt out like fire track yeah you could I mean there's just slugs in this area I think it is a slug area but I'm not positive I don't know but often when you are in all these fields where it could travel along with you once the highest you can set can you set up in the hammer or is that too tall no I think they took there used to be like a 16 foot limit I think like years ago but as far as I know now there isn't at least where I am but we don't have fields either I know the all the fields things are different yeah there might be so it's really good like it's sought after yeah it's good yeah it's good that's cool yeah we'll we'll get a bunch and then you can you know obviously make it with right different stuff yeah but then to a chef something up with it you got to ever make us some bears spaghetti oh yeah that would be good no it isn't yeah yeah they said that too bears spaghetti well the meat's just like a little bit like oily or greasy whatever you want to say but when you use it in like other recipes it's super good like if you just had like a patty of berry might be like ah it's maybe not the greatest but Jen would be all about that she's like that's the thing with hunting is then you know where you got your meat source from it didn't go to you know the store it didn't it wasn't like unless you bring your deer and to have processed with like 900 other deer yeah we've always been kind of scared of doing it like we've never oh that's that's how it works no well they say they don't that's what we're checking after opening we could deer season and the nature's got 150 laying there yeah and they just go well 40 you know 100 pounds of meat to them yeah you never yeah no for sure truly no yeah that's it I always bugged me about my family being cheap growing up is that we did most of the meat processing ourselves hmm so like what's it's a lot of work yeah even the in digging testons on the meat grinder and they have the up in or it's the peak of of shooting the deer and then you know that that's so fun and then cutting it whatever and then you're like skinning it you're still excited and then you're just cutting it in the meat off yeah and I'm like this sucks why do we have to do this I know yeah this is your two cheap my dad my dad still I think he enjoys doing it yeah and I'm like for my this is not fun and we bring it it's usually freezing out too and you're Just try not to cut yourself like the whole time and then usually do they just enjoy it because then my dad got a Dehydrator and then I was like it doesn't end jerky's a lot of work jerky's so much work and and it reminds me of Freakin Sydney's been cooking sourdough friends like jerky they're like give me some of that jerky Given away the jerky is like Yeah, obviously you better appreciate this. Yeah, yeah, jerky is the best my dad goes crazy with the jerky Yeah, you like has to watch it like some you kind of could just put it in the dehydrator for 10 hours But he's in there check in. Oh, this shelf comes off Yeah, yeah, it's a whole process I think that you would really enjoy bow hunting C.J. I think you'd enjoy just shooting a bow because it's similar to golf Where it's hard to get good at and then once you get good at it, it's satisfying Yeah, I've thought about buying a bow just to shoot around in like my yard just for like when I'm bored Yeah, no, I'm golfing so it's like how much time I got C.J. is like fucking Robin Hood out there just sniping squirrels you were good from the deck Hey, we've done it before we've done some stuff. Yeah on the channel. I fall I forget his name I follow some dude on Instagram that does just strictly our archery trick shots. Oh really like yeah I mean he can like shoot clay pigeons fricking behind his back shoot like you know a ring someone throws a ring up And he like shoots the ring into the target I could shoot like an apple off Ken's head or something Yeah, maybe give you a few years of training before we let's go try it after this Just kidding. Yeah, Ryan and I we went to Nashville. Oh, yeah, Nashville for a wedding the opposite of a relaxing weekend in the mountains did I look Hactic you guys break it in for me. Oh, yeah, you're going this weekend. Have yeah, but like a little warning technically Monday each each spot I'm curious what you're gonna think of Nashville Evan. I don't want to spoil it though. I don't want to I feel like you're not going to know what I'm getting into Do you I think you're gonna think Nashville is a Seaward Cheeto you can't say Cheeto anymore. No, we can I think you're gonna think it's pretty Cheeto. I hope you have fun It's like everything that you hate I know Yeah, okay, you guys need to get back to yours But either way it's from my girlfriend's birthday. She really wants to go. She's stoked about it I'm stoked to like go have a good time with her. Yeah, it's it's and I've never been there so everything that you love And the only thing to do there is your favorite activity drinking so it's like it's this balance where I think you're gonna Be very conflicted because you're gonna be like I should be having the time of my life But my brain hurts because of all the country music, but yeah, and it's but everything I stand for Hating is what represents this entire experience. You will which is which is being country like the country music And every single bar that you go into is 17 floors of country music. Yeah, they have like a bunch of artists that You guys are stressing me out cuz I've heard everyone knows a country. I mean, there's other stuff It's fewer and far between isn't it if you're on Broadway really anywhere There's always some artists singing a cover of a big song, but I like everywhere It's just and it's really loud. They always have it crank. Yeah, that's what I've heard some people complain It's almost too loud if you're just gonna like you can't even talk loud and then I saw you guys made it up to some rooftop And they're just blowing the speakers with EDM, which I don't know if you love yeah, I don't know if you love the EDM either But that kind of seems to be the two directions either get country or country remix into EDM It's really packed to like I'm in the same boat as you like Alex she loves Nashville But when I was there I was singing to myself like the only thing to do here is drink all the bars are literally the same They're jam-packed solar solar plane country music and I really don't know anyone here So it's like why are we just sitting here just fucking crammed in screaming at each other? Yeah, I can't even tell the floor of us went out and we're like what are we doing Standing in this crowded bar where neither of us can even talk to each other cuz it's so loud You're just standing around you have to wait so long for a drink. I mean you I'm sure you can find a spot that's not but like also it was fun like Nashville is a nice place Like it's got nice weather a city safe. You're better. Yeah, I'm really really good food really good food I think if you just if you're really drunk you'll have fun, but like I'd like to try my run out of mechanical bull There's gotta be a few of those are there is but you're gonna have to stand in line behind a bunch of girls on bachelor at parties Every corner The one thing I'll say is people compare it to Vegas the like it's just like Las Vegas. It's not like well Yeah, there's no gambling. Yeah, Las Vegas there seems to be more activities to do in my opinion. There's a million things You could go to Vegas and not drink and still have an awesome time You can't do that in Nashville the only thing you can really do in Nashville is go to a bar or I guess you can go to a nice restaurant There is nice restaurant so I will say that and we went to a really good one Ryan myself and are two women She'll not be named I just wasn't gonna go through all the names Supposedly that that was like the nicest is that one of the nicest restaurants I guess it was really hard to get into a laundromade the reservation. I shit you not six weeks ago When we decided we were going to the run might be so yeah And we the only reservation that we could get was at like nine 15 p.m What was his take house? Yeah, apparently Travis and Taylor were there the weekend before yeah, Travis Kelsey Patrick my homes Kane brown and then all their spouses see Taylor Swift and but get this so we're pulling up. We walk to the place And I see yeah, we're walking up and I see Blue Ferrari that's wrapped kind of Cheeto wrap. I'm not gonna lie, but it was wrapped but I was like damn sick That's a sick Ferrari and then I see an R8 pulling up and it was Wisland's old filmer Keller And then I see a hurricane perform on a backing in and it's a convertible I look in his cane brown and one of those boys. Oh, he's got a sick hurricane. Yeah And then it's Matt black and then there's a Matt black SVJ backing in and then there's a yellow Lamborghini years back in I'm like holy fuck these are some sick as far as yeah, they literally like hop out and Go walking in to eat at the same place that we were going to but uh Yeah, it was kind of cool having Kane brown whip up in front of us. Yeah, is there a lot of cool cars there a lot of g-wagans Dude, there's a ton of g-wagans. I've heard that. I've heard that. It's like the yeah the vehicle of choice for natural So shit ton of g-wagans but those were easily the coolest cars we've seen and I will say I'm not a big fan of yellow cars That yellow yours was sick. Well, if I was gonna get a yours, I'd get a yellow one really it was pretty just was it wide body? No, it just was sick dude. It was just sick. I don't know. I'd normally wouldn't think that but I could see you rip in even a yellow hurricane I'd love a yellow Huracom Bunch of carbon fiber all over it. Yeah, pretty sick. I think the Lambo yellow is just right for Or a yellow as opposed to the Corvette, you know But it was fun because I was like that was fun. We we walked or well, I guess yeah the whole weekend was fun Seed and I had a good time, but uh like go out walking into that restaurant and like seeing all those cars out front I was like damn dude. I wish we had a cool place like obviously we have zorps. That's the job You pull up pull like any better than that Imagine doing the rip down Broadway shooting flames out of your fucking car and then you pull up Curbside to the restaurant. They're all sitting out in front And then you eat dinner at a really sick restaurant and then you get to hop in them and go home Like it actually seems like a fun drive. Yeah, you hit some sweet Nashville roads as opposed to Cormorant that's covered in p-rock and you just avoid deer on the way home and then you know, that's it That's so sweet Dude, I think about that like even when we were in not even crazy at all But when we were in Appleton, it was like so fun. We like got to drive down. Yeah, I'll have her cars I'm like do all wrong the restaurant. It's such a different vibe That would make owning a cool car way more fun Like the thing about owning a cool car and Cormorant You're driving the same roads that are super lame There's p-rock shit everywhere and then uh, yeah half the time it's raining and you don't have anywhere to go Yeah, it's kind of a lot too like in front of like most people around here Just driving normal rags and you're just whipping up and like yeah, it's kind of it's pretty easy She's just kind of so much but also if you love cars What else are you gonna do which is why we do exactly like there's no other reason We're not driving on the flex. Yeah, no one really sees them fun No one really sees them like if you lived in a big city a lot of people would be seeing you like if we were buying it to flex like You know like we're just ripping them around like there's like 10 people here at CM But uh, no, I will say I had more fun this Nashville trip than last one It was just like I don't know it's just fun Maybe it's because of what we were doing less standing around in the bar like Alex and I and Ryan and Alonja are like We would like go and do different things and so I don't know it was more things to do than just like literally stand at the bar the whole time We only did that probably what you are. I got asked and what did you do because like I swear three minutes ago You just said there's nothing to do but go stand in an overly loud Nothing so I'll tell you what we did nothing like Alex went out of it. Evan got his excitement back up Oh, so there is a chance We sat by the pool for two days like for pretty much the majority of the day and it was hot We went out to eat Alex went shopping and I trailed behind her I worked out every day in the morning And then we went to a wedding and then we also went to a wedding party thing the night before a bachelor party or not the groom's dinner. So like, you guys got invited to the groom's dinner? No, we weren't invited to the groom's dinner. Oh, you just went, we showed up at the end. That was an after party. Okay. Okay, I guess that was an after party. I was going to say, damn, anyone was invited. Oh, yeah. But no, it was fun. It was a great wedding. It was a fun time. But probably the most legendary part was a long tonight. We're just kind of bar hopping on the last night because we're like, fuck it. We're here. You know, let's just go out for a little bit after the wedding. And we'll maybe meet up with the wedding party when they're done with the reception. Anyway, we walk into totally random bar, never been into it before. And I look to my left. And there is one of our friends that lives around here, Tad, Tadahooji. And he's leading the swag surfing dance to the whole packed bar. Like one of our, none of our parts were not even the slightest clue what the hell the swag surfing is. Is it the one we ran into in Key West? No, I don't think so. He's like, he was someone seeing karaoke in New York. That was Jaylin. Oh, yeah. That's right. Either way, running into people that we know in random places. Can you describe this swag surf? Because I've heard you say this whole full time. Yeah, cities. They're like super popular. They're the football team. That was in swag surf. I don't know. It's like a dance. You get a little wider stance and you go like this. And then the whole crowd does it back to you. And then there's a rap song that we can't play. I do to copy right reasons. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But anyway, he's just doing that. He's like running the entire crowd with karaoke. I was like holy shit with the mic. Yeah. Did he have like a residency on this karaoke? I don't know. It seemed like he was kind of the man. So I walked in, got another one after swag surf. He did. Yeah. Oh shit. Okay. All right. So he was the man. He wasn't just up there just hitting one song and it just happened to be no. The time that you walked in. Like he was up there doing his thing. Yeah. Yeah. He was he had the truth. And he's a real he's a realtor. He's not a he's not doing music. Exactly. Yeah. You got to try what I did when I went to Nashville. You just got to find some musician buddies and then go party in their basement while they jam. Yeah. Mike had a completely different Nashville experience. I'm not saying that that is actually what you should do. But it was it was one of my trips there was before I was 21. It was with Jake and Cody. But like that actually is fun. There's so many musicians. It'd be like running into Rick Duff and I'm be like, yeah, I mean, come back to the basement with a smoke cigarettes and and that's why I was just going to describe it. Like you took the words. I was going to smoke cigarettes and jam. So one of the things that Ryan and I did actually it was Ryan got me on online gambling. So I don't do that in Tennessee. No, you can't. No, we had a VPN sports betting is legal there. I don't think they have any casinos though. No, anyway, as we're doing this online casino, just to keep it short, Ryan's like, yeah, I've been playing this. I'm up 1500 bucks. Well, he sends us a screenshot and goes pretty sure I just found an infinite money hack. Yeah, infinite money glitz dude. Literally in the 11 second screen recording, I made $1,200. It was amazing. I did see that, Ryan. I didn't have a single lick of FOMO of you guys being in Nashville the entire time. I was watching your stories and I was honestly watching like, damn, I'm glad I'm not there because it's just not I don't know. I just didn't have that much fun last time we went. And then I saw that you sending a screenshot of you gambling. And I was like, Oh my god, this is not good. I need to put my phone down before I download this app. I use Ryan's promo code and I and I start losing my future of children's college education. It's been taking everything I have not. I was going to run this is so bad for me to see. It is bad. You really shouldn't have because it turned me into a different human being. So I start planning this. I only gambled for 24 hours on my phone straight. I mean it'd be like, we had to get up at like 4.30 on Sunday morning to go to the airport. So I'm ripping on the toilet, ripping blackjack waiting for Alex to walk out the room. Anyways, I ran $100 up to $7,000. $6,900 profit. And then and then I'm such a sicko. I lost all $7,000. And and I put $1,000 back in and lost too. That's exactly what I would do. Yeah. No, it was so bad. It was so bad. How bad of a losing heater. Well, I started putting a lot of money in it. So like, you know, I was very slowly working my way up and down. And I would throw out the day of travel. I was up and I would be like 6,000. I'd maybe go to four and then I'd get back up six years. Well, I was getting pretty big hands. But yeah, it's so easy when I'm sick to my stomach and disgusted with myself to do that. And that's when I realized I'm like, I can't have this. And of course, my immediate thought is, why don't I just put two grand in and throw it in on one hand? And I could get back up. And and the thing is, what happens when you lose that? And what happens? And like realistically, eventually, you should hit but also it's an online casino. You can't trust these things. Like it's not like they got the cards right in front of you. It was so easy to play, so addicting. And you could literally play it like this so quick. Like we're standing in line at Chipotle. I start fucking playing. It was so bad. It was so bad. But, you know, at the end of the day, I lost $1,000. Whatever. I could have had $7,000. The thing is is when do you stop? And I should have just stopped because I was a 700 X is a pretty good point. 70 X. My that's insane. I got never had such a run. And ultimately, I didn't lose it all in one streak. You know, it was like I was kind of up and down up and down. And yeah, you just paid a thousand bucks for entertainment for the weekend. I was like 24. I don't know why, but like getting 7G's off of a thousand is like amazing. Getting 7G's off of a hundred. I can't believe I just. What? Why didn't that that's that's a crazy. I didn't even know what happened. I told myself if it gets below five, I got a walk. Yeah. And I just kept going. Oh, let's see. What happened? You're a sick. Oh, I didn't mean to sound excited that you like lost that. I was just excited to know that you did the exact same thing that I would. You should not. Oh, my God. We are way too. It's so easy to just load up gambling is probably the quickest way to lose any kind of wealth you have. Like straight up. Holy shit, CJ. I mean, I love gambling. I had no idea. I'm so disappointed myself for doing that. I'm so disappointed myself because it's like, look, what the fuck, dude? What? Like what, what are you doing? And you just lose self control. I can see why they have these sites banned. And I think they should stay banned. Oh, well, let's just relax now. I think they should stay banned. Dude, it was so bad. And like, it was just not good. And you you actually do have a slight bit of self control. Oh, yeah. I've great. Well, I can see, no, I've seen them play Blackjack. So, yeah, I guess that is the thing. You've been able to quit drinking. You've been able to eat clean. You've been able to have discipline to work out. You still lost all of that money in a matter of an hour, right? So think about the people that don't have that left side of their brain that says, maybe slow it down a little bit. Like my buddy sitting up behind this table over. I lost that seven K and probably 10 minutes. Oh, yeah. Oh, no, I was in the dollar hand 200, 500. No, I was doing like 250 hand average, but you had to get up to like, yeah, I think I had a thousand or maybe a 1500 dollar hand I lost, maybe two. Anyway, no, dude, it was in between half time of a football game. Because of course, I sit there and I play prize picks. Yeah, you had a night and draft games. I'm sitting there. And I was like, I'm going to do this. So it was 15 minutes. Like I lost it so quick, so quick. It was disgusting. I didn't know what the fuck happened. I mean, that's like the YouTuber Togi. I just watched his video last week where he won $5.5 million with Steve will do it. And then I was watching a snap story yesterday. And he said, I am beyond broke. I have these mortgages. I have employees and expenses that add up to like 180 grand a month. And I don't have a single dollar to my name. I was like, God, how did he lose? He does say what's it? Two million dollars in the last week. He did it. Some of it on purpose, which is also, I think twice is insane. He's like, I got to get back to broke so I can start up Schemeland and then start making money. How do you lose on purpose? He gave his money away. He gave it all his $80,000 to the IRS. But instead, he just gave cars watches and money away so that he could. Yeah. I mean, that was one thing I thought about too, as I was like, dude, Steve is like in the whole, Steve will do it. And like the whole pretty bad. As you see on his thing, like how he owes the casino a million, he owes this guy a hundred thousand because they're always taking loans. So I'm like, dude, it's just like, what are you really doing? It gets it's and the thing is, is those guys get paid to refer you to use those sites. So like the fact that they're blowing through that as well is crazy. But Ryan, you can pull up how much I wagered because I use Ryan's referral code. Yeah. Thank you. I want you guys to see this. I do want to say that you 100 grand. You earned me $16.74. Should I say the total amount wagered? Yes. Say the total amount wagered because if you had per se done this in Vegas, the hotels would be calling you saying, we're going to put you on a plane and you come back this weekend. Yeah. Total wagered $83,722. I did that in 24 hours. No. No. I kept checking it. I quit gambling and I just kept checking it because I kept watching it just jump astronomically. CJ, what did you do? But I only I worked 100 up to a seven, but you know, it changes as it fluctuates. So like, it's not saying I spent 86, but like, you know, if I did a $500 hand and I lost that and then I did a $1,000 hand, I won that right there would be a $1,500. That's why I'm terrified to look at my little players card at the casino. You know, you might only burn $500, but through the ups and downs, you might have done $20,000 through the slot machine at night, just to lose 500. Did you delete the app? It's not app, but no, I got it off my phone. I'm just dover it. I'm over it. Do you want to borrow it? Oh, I keep thinking to myself. I'm like, I could just do one big hand swing and possibly do it. So that's what I obviously, like you just said, like a lot of them might not be real. I am entertained by some of the ones I see on Instagram where they do these huge ones. They're like, I'm going to come in. I'm going to play three hands and if I win whatever, I'm going to walk out with this car. I don't know if that's real or not, but if it is, it's like kind of cool. You should do it. I know. You should. I think it's like, I don't think we could do it. And also kind of back to what you said about, like, Steve being super down. It's real. It's real. Let's do it up once in a while, though. The thing is, it's just love saying it's like, when do you stop? I think, oh, yeah, this is where I was going with this. Evan. So then I started thinking about you because I'm like, dude, this guy spends more time gambling or in a casino than anyone and is just crazy. How quickly you can delete money and really have nothing to show for it. So I started thinking my stock market, like my brokerage account, I check that 50 times a day and sometimes it's okay, whatever, maybe sorry, I'm just like that. I check it a shit time. Check it a shit time. Sometimes up a lot and other times it's down a lot. It's constantly changing and that is almost the same thing as gambling because you're up, you're down. Ultimately, as long as you're buying, tried and true staple stocks, you're going to win in the long run. But I think you should just start, like, even if it's like a portion of your gambling fund, put it into this, like, I'll even help you tell you just like some basic stocks, Amazon, Google, Tesla, Netflix, whatever. Just these basic stocks and you'll still get the same thrill kind of, it's much tamer of a thrill. But it goes up and goes down. I'll see that and it goes up and goes down. I'll see that and it goes down. It actually is a good idea. It is. And I get your jollies from that. You do. And I do get the jollies from it. It's not close to gambling on your phone, thousands of dollars is insane. That's a rush. That's what's crazy too is like, even if I go to the casino by my house, like for Blackjack, it's like table max is like a hundred bucks. Just bad though, because then you can't catch it back up. Well, yeah. It is. That's bad. You don't want table max is like, yeah, but if you're gambling five dollars a hand, it takes a little bit to get to a hundred if anyone that's just like, oh, it's for entertainment. It's kind of bullshit because you do want to go win. But you can go play Blackjack for five to twenty dollars a hand with a couple hundred bucks and have some beers with your friends and it's not quite as devastating. And then even with like the slot machines, it's not like Vegas with the high limit rooms where you can be spinning like hundreds of dollars of spin on a slot machine like max spins like ten bucks. So I feel like how impulsive I am. It's nice to have those slight restrains, those guard, yeah, but you get on the phone. I mean, the sky's the limit on that is, I don't think there is no impact. And I think I would do exactly what you said, like, well, you lose the one hundred. Now it's two of them. Two is a four. Now the four is an eight. Before you know it, you're selling the farm to try to break even. Yeah, it's bad deal. God, you guys are degenerates. I think like with the stocks though, like I always get that little bit of dopamine hit. Like right. It feels good. Yeah, it feels good. It's so fun. You know that you have a 401k, right? I guess. I signed a paper for. Let me try to pull that. No, I can put more money into that. Can I? Yeah, but you do have investments, just do the stocks, but I was going to say, I mean, he has invested. Yeah, you already have enough forced upon him. Yeah, we for your own good. Yeah, we actually made you have to do that. No, I got the option. I did max. You did. You did have the option. Yeah. You can't be forced into. As much as we asked, as much as we asked the, you know, the guys that set it up for our company, we said, can you make this mandatory for certain employees? And they were like, well, no, can we tell them it is? Yeah. But seriously, last thing I'll say, you would get some of that dopamine hit from just checking your stocks. You'll go up. You'll go down. It's kind of just like gambling, except you're more than likely winning the long run. It was like a year ago, Ryan kind of helped me get going on Robinhood, I think. Yeah. I just asked a few extra too many questions. I didn't have access to the information. Oh, damn. I never got it. Damn it. I don't know if it was, they probably need some tax numbers, some shit. Yeah. Robinhood's like, they needed one thing I didn't have. So Robinhood is like the most gamified version of buying stocks. You can possibly. Yeah. I think when you press buy, it like gives little sparkles. Oh, god. Like it. And I was ready for the experience. I actually remember when I was setting up this account, I was sitting in a hot tub drinking a beer, being like, I'm getting into the stock market right now. I'm going to start investing. Seriously. Yeah, that makes me bumble. We didn't do it, dude. I should stuff like 60%, because stock just keep going up. Because I just have a couple stocks. I'll never go down. On Venmo, there's like, you have like six options to buy shitty crypto in Venmo. So I've done that. And I'm like, doubled my money on that stuff, but it's not much. If you think that maybe the stock market's a little too safe and you want to be more edgy with your. I do like edgings. Exactly. I think you could get into crypto and have that same feeling. And I honestly, I think it'd be as good of an investment. Fun thing about crypto is especially the market's open 24 hours a day. Yeah. So you can do it late at night. One time Ben was trading penny stock or penny cryptos and paid for his dinner. Yeah. Ben and I were trading. It's fun. Shit stocks. Shit coins. Yeah. And we bought dinner that night. We did. Shit coins. I'm glad. I'm glad. Because I was going to say to Ryan just said the stocks always go up. They do. I know a lot of you know this, but like you're going to lose gambling in the long run. You're going to lose. Yeah. No one's ever beat the casino. I'm talking. Yeah. I'm talking like Steve, to CJ, to me, you're going to lose and the stock market, you're not. All right. Decent stocks. I'm saying over time. And that's why you should sign up for money, Mike's financial advising. I would never. I'm not a lying sack of shit like Thai Lopez, yeah, Thai Lopez is not a financial advisor, but yeah, he's something he's got Lamborghini's and books in his garage. Who the hell listen to Thai Lopez in the first place is my question. Fucking radio shack was like this guy is going to be our saving grace. You don't know what Thai Lopez I got Lamborghini in my garage from reading all these. No, that guy knowledge guy. He just got hit with like a hundred and twelve million dollar Ponzi scheme, call it. We're telling all these businesses that we're failing that all right. I'm going to take you from brick and mortar to online presence, turn your business around. And then we'll obviously all reap the benefits, sold it to a bunch of different investors. Like radio shack. That's why a radio shack doesn't exist anymore. Radio shack. It wouldn't have been. Has radio shack existed and wins the last time it existed. I don't know. Five years ago. He did it with a couple different companies, maybe pull it up, but he was basically, you know, selling a class set like to other people as well. Yeah, but this thing was like selling it to investors and then robin Pete to pay Paul kind of deal, which is a classic ponzi scheme. And you don't want to get mixed up with P or Paul. Maybe we should start a Ponzi scheme. What do you think we'd do? Cheeto coin. Nope, that's just a coin. Cheeto coin. So the other day actually I was sitting in my sauna with shredades. That's a really sweaty sauna, my god, that guy sweats a normal life. What's he look like in a sauna, does he melt? Does he actually spray out of him? He was like a sprinkler, so it was crazy. Yeah, it was crazy. Just ripping that down. He drinks it. It was crazy. But anyway, I don't know how we got on the topic of it, but he was like, what do you think the best investment is right now? And I was like, honestly, everyone should buy Bitcoin. And he was like, why, what's up with Bitcoin? And I was like, do you know anything about crypto or Bitcoin? And he was like, no, not at all. And so then I proceeded to do it in a novel. Of course he had. Of course he had. Do you think Bitcoin was around the 80s? No, it was not. It was not a concern to him. But I then went down the rabbit hole of trying to get shredades to start investing his money and different things like crypto or even stocks, I was like, I think you should buy some stocks too. He was like, okay, I was like, do you have any money? Anywhere else besides for three weeks? And he was like, no, why would I do that? And I was like, okay, because it was shortly after he was telling me how up he is on his three wheeler investments. Oh, yeah, that's right. I'm glad that you brought up saying the Bitcoin thing because I was on the phone with our insurance agent. He actually lives in Texas and he said, yeah, Ben changed my life a few years ago, because you said it's more of a risk to not own Bitcoin and he said, you know what? He went, downloaded the app, started investing, has obviously done very well over the last few years. And then now is actually working on a few different projects within cryptocurrency now. So he's that's awesome. He said that he was like, I got to give Ben credit like you guys affected his life in a positive way. That's dope. That is awesome to him. He's awesome. I won't name it up. Great. And also not to be the dead horse here, but I set it from the start. I think NFTs are truly the dumbest thing ever made. I like the idea. [BLANK_AUDIO] Like that one sixty nine million dollar NFT that's not worth 10 K. That's all say on that. That is all say on that. Evan gets into one of the first podcasts I was on with you guys. You guys were on and on and on. You guys are, yeah, explaining them to me and I can imagine you gave it no less than one fuck. Yeah. You should have listened. No, it's a good thing. I didn't. Oh, it was NFTs. Yeah, NFTs. And I don't think you guys were recommending them. I think you might just ask me what my stance was at that point. So Evan, when does your your Cheeto crypto project? I do like the sound of a Cheeto. That's where this was going. Shred AIDS goes, you can just make a digital currency and it's all kind of based off of hype. Why don't we make a meme coin and I was just like you stop right there. Yeah, it's stop right there. We are not doing that. We're way too late in the game. Yeah, be that dumb. Shred coin. Yeah, Shred coin. Also, how many people ripped off their followers doing that shit? We're not doing it. And we actually have the opportunity to like a few different where they're like, we'll do this this coin or we'll do this. And we're like, we ain't doing that. Like how they're like, oh, it's going to be worth more. Like, how is this going to be worth more someday? There's no way like we're not doing that. And we didn't. And now there's creators. I have, I think they've came down on for that. And they've gotten in trouble. Hot tour. Hot tour. Yeah, she's, she's infamous for it. I think Logan Paul had a jam up. Yeah. So anyway, if you see Shred Aid start promoting meme coins, don't buy. That'd be so awkward. Am I by one just in case? No, I shouldn't say that. I don't want to. It's more of a risk not to own Shred Aid coin. Shred Aid coins are going to be actual coins. They're not going to be. That's pretty funny. Actually, that's actually hilarious. It's a gold coin that has a three-wheeler on it is the Shred Aid coin. And the other side is his face going like this. Bro, that's actually a good idea. So Evan, have you seen the TikToks? Yep. What are your thoughts on them? I don't know. I think that some kids just found out they're going to catch a bunch of views making TikTok saying I fell off. I'd agree with that. I think that they're all bunch of sheep and they're hopping on train. And there's no truth to it? I don't think so at all. Do you feel like the Cheeto Army is switching up on you? No. That would be good, Differ. I think they switched up real quick. You don't think that there's still loyalty in the Cheeto Army? No, I do think there is. The Cheeto Army is much as shrink tremendously. That's so sure, but maybe. I think they switch up quick. They're a bunch of bandwagoners. But so for anyone who doesn't know. Careful, you're coming at this Cheeto Army here. So for anyone who doesn't know. I used to think, ah, maybe you don't want to go out the Cheeto Army. It didn't work out too well for Dalton. Now I'm wondering where their loyalty lies. Yeah, it's not kidding. So anyway, Dalton's got some followers. It doesn't mean the Cheeto Army has switched up. So to fill in the listener, if I happen to go on TikTok, which I don't really spend much time on TikTok, but when I do go on TikTok, there seems to be this trend going around saying that Evan has fallen off. Although I disagree that you have not fallen off, but there's this trend going around saying that you have just because you didn't hit that one jump. And then of course, when I just feel it out, not even attempting to hit it, I ride over the jump. That gets plastered in there and then just spread. Oh, Evan fell off. Look at him. I was like, damn, this is probably going to like come through on camera that he just can't ride a dirt bike anymore. And then when he got chopped up that way intentionally, though, like, well, yeah, it was more of just like I drive the gap jump. It was like, and then it's like, oh, he doesn't hit the gap jump. Yeah, it was more of just a joke of just like Evan isn't on a bike. And then they just took it and ran with it. And I think it was more of kids seeing that they could get some views off of just saying that. And then it just kind of spread like wildfire. And I've noticed it with like other things too. It's when we finally like says, we'll like crack a joke. And then everyone else thinks that they're like, I can crack that joke now too. Yeah. So I think that it did just get like blown out of proportion. And I think that there's one person that is really like leading the charge of loving every second of it. And that's Dalton. Evan's our scientist. I did find out after these were coming up that Dalton posted a video like on TikTok like months ago where he chops it where I'm on the stark for like 30 seconds and tip over. And then he edits it and he's like, whatever, you guys know of it. I'm talking about. I don't. I've seen it. Yeah, he's making himself better. He's around the garage a whole bunch. It's like, oh, yeah. It did get out of hand. Lowchase and so hard. He's grabbing on to anything you can. I think that one, the loyalty of the Cheeto Army is pretty fluid of where it's loyalty lies. But two, it's like everybody loves a good comeback story. And this is your opportunity to just capitalize on that. And then the Cheeto Army is going to be like, we knew he was still able to ride a dirt bike. He can still do it. I never doubted it for a second. And when those are probably still the kids that were like posting that shit or like liking it. But I think that this is your opportunity to gain the loyalty back. I think they're still there. But also just like this, yeah, a lot of Cloud Chase and the delusions like bringing Spenny into it. Okay. So Spenny did a lot of dirt bike in that video. And then Evan didn't. And everyone's like, damn, watching Spenny take Evan's place. So, so, so to real man. And I'm like, I mean, why is it professional? And then I'm like, and then there was like, so, you know, I love reading the comments that are very sane. Very like they're like, no, y'all are like so crazy. Like, Spenny's just a bro. He's in the videos. And Evan's not going anywhere. And I like, you know, respond to it. And I'm like, true, that's that's how it is, bro. Like it's not that deep. Yeah, I agree. I think it got out of hand. And kids found out that they could make a TikTok just of like the worst stupidest little video of like just their like dirt bike just slowly panning across it. And then they put some like text on there like Evan fell off. And then it just gets like 60K likes on TikTok. Well, dude, it is like the plus minus two because like I kind of set like this summer, we all got memberships at the golf course. And how many days a week did we end up playing golf where it's like last year, maybe I would have went and rode bike, which maybe that is pretty lame. I didn't go ride dirt bike and I played golf instead. But I'd like one of the funnest summers ever playing golf with the boys. Yeah, we did have a lot of fun on the golf course. And also like I in a weird way felt fortunate that like none of that was coming at me because Evan and I both didn't ride big bikes for legitimately three and a half months. All summer like we went out like one time this ring, which is a damn shame. And then when we filmed that vid. Yeah. The only reason I was excelling slightly in that vid was because I went out in practice because I was scared. The jumps were bigger and I knew that I had to go out in practice and then and you just didn't have that opportunity the two days before it. People get super weird about us not continuing to do the exact same thing that we did five years ago. And they're like, oh, they're switching up. Like they even say that about just like the channel in general when like, I don't know if the viewer really realizes, but like we're not going to just do the exact same thing every single video. And like we have like evolved and grown. And the channel is much bigger than just like riding dirt bikes now where we do so many things. We do always it's always been like that, but we we do so many different things and we've just evolved and we have to to continue to make better videos. It would the whole thing would decline rapidly if we did the exact same thing and never evolved and never changed. I mean, you can see the people that are in our same will say niche rate of price say that. I'll say it. He hasn't grown and adapted at the same rate and same with Tyler Monty and dirt bikes didn't change, didn't grow and adapt. People are like, oh, they they've changed. They're not who they used to be. Well, no shit. Yeah. I don't know if the majority of people say that. I think there's just this group of people that just complain and there's that we'll say these TikTok kids. They just sit there and complain on there because that can get views and likes and stir up the pot. But the thing is, is that if we did the same thing, if we just only made the same video or we only made writing videos, they'd be like, man, they're running out of videos, they're running out of ideas. Like they'll always stand on the side of complaints. Yeah, that's just the moral and I don't think all of our subs are. I think there's just a group that is just bunch of little wine little bitches. It's allowed minority. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but it's not the majority. So when I see those TikToks about Evan, I know who they are. Yeah, if you just click the same account, it's like some little kid. It's the same people like that. So like I haven't really thought too deep into it and I know Evan doesn't give a shit. I know he doesn't give a shit one bit. I think like a lot of people are curious to what we do think about that or what Evan thinks about that. And everyone I tell him like, oh yeah, Evan doesn't give a single fuck. I think he cares about like those kids that are saying he can't, he's falling out because he can't. Any one of the kids that made one of those TikToks, I'd line up with them on the track right now let's see like what's run wheelie back let's hit a few jumps like even Dalton the other day he said we should go race and even Spenny goes Dalton no you can't do not even for fun I couldn't piggyback on any of that because like Evan could smoke me video I didn't perform very well but at the end of the day I think I still know how to ride a bike and I don't I don't let a couple 10 works get under my skin yep and we're working on a video right now for you to prove all those little tick tockers wrong and I mean and that's the extreme side like we definitely like we read all the comments that we are physically able to and like we love constructive criticism nobody loves hate yeah no and I do want to always like have my finger on the pulse of like what people are saying what what people want to see or you know to a certain degree right because I think if you lose touch with that yeah then you lose touch with reality but yes but yeah I just now that I'm just like a few tick tocks now that Mike got married wonder how long they'll keep making video yeah and I'm like bro and then I use I'm like do you guys see clearest he's like happily married two kids now and just crushing it I'm like what does that even mean they're just trying to find something to be down about you know like they're trying to find some like you know whatever but and it's that same group yeah totally agree yeah I was reading through the comments in the pod we've been trying to make them you know we've been going a little bit longer and someone commented too long and then I was like God someone is still upset with us like you can make it longer now it's too long you make it shorter it's too short you make it too funny there's not enough seriousness we're getting out that there was one two that was like yo only 37 minutes for the reckless golf six video I'm like it's the longest reckless golf video by far it's longer than some of them combined yeah I heard Roman at would say when he got the most hate he was popping the most in his channel's history it's just and so he said in the moment it was like oh man I'm getting all this hate but then looking back at it is of course I was getting hate I was gaining a ton of subscribers I you know bunch of new people were watching I was getting put in front of so many more people who was I to think that certain people weren't gonna like me and I think that is just something to take into consideration of like there is hundreds of thousands of people on TikTok that know who these kids are talking about solely by saying the name Evan it's pretty impressive how many people in this world are named Evan and yet somebody just says the name Evan and hundreds of thousands of people know exactly who you are right so it's like these people are just they switch up their loyalty and if they're willing to switch up that easy they're probably the same people that are gonna come back yeah 100% yeah I still for the record don't think it's the Cheeto Army switching up it's just people they're just here in louder complainers and but that's the thing too is I get what you're saying there because there's always been people that don't like you they've just never had a voice they've just never had a megaphone for it and so they're able to capitalize on a moment like this it's the same thing with people that don't like Dolten when we never said anything about him or we never you know gave him that voice you didn't get any hate but you didn't also have anyone caring about him like with I shouldn't say that but I should you know yeah not that nobody didn't care about him but I'm saying like his parents with with when a lot of people care about you you're also gonna have haters so it's like it's like the give and take you were seeing all the the Cheeto AI Cheeto memes on Dalton's now you're seeing them on Evans but you got to keep in mind you mean they're on like Greta's Alondra's Sydney's Alex's there on everybody's like the Cheeto Army just fires those things to everybody Cheeto memes honestly I find hilarious I think the Cheeto Army switched up I think you have a very small portion remaining but I think that they'll come back that's that's cap I think that I think you have a small portion remaining I think you're gonna have such a successful training week I think everyone is going to come back I agree 100% I agree they're all gonna come back just look at what you've already done so far it's so much progress yeah four minutes on the treadmill and recto Chevy yeah exactly great start good you were sweating you were and we had you bench pressing I did a couple squats that's the sweatiest thing I've ever seen you I'm happy about that honestly Ken's clearly never been in the sauna with this fella he's in their spitting bars at 210 degrees oh god I will say this though Dalton is going to be heartbroken come Thursday night when he sees the tides back to normal and that doesn't mean you should just start reheating or hating on Dalton no no no no but he's been getting off on Evan's hate and it's gonna just be back to just loving him I think and Dalton's gonna cry himself to sleep has never really made a man's I feel like the amends were made just for the money at that point oh I was at the lodge this weekend at Elkamp and this girl that was like 17 was a huge fan I came around the corner and she started crying wow she was like I never thought that I would meet you in the middle of nowhere Colorado my boyfriend is going to melt when like she was freaking out right and so I was just like asking you know how long you been watching Greta's like who's your favorite and like saying all this and then she goes I love the Dalton and Evan beef and I was like you do and she's like I think it's so funny like their dynamic and I was like oh yeah it's it's like so real like we cut half of the shit cuz it's like them like saying gnarly things to each other that we can't put on the internet and then you also don't see when they do get along and she's like I just think that that dynamic is is hilarious and I love that you guys show that I was like oh that's cool I'm always interested to hear you know what people like about certain vids or certain dynamics in it and that one was pretty funny but we'll see if the ties my turn back I think they're going on a percent I might put a bet out seven to the she to the tone of seven grand back to Evan he is probably starting to get a call she back going C.J. has got like an ideas board of how he can be the forefront of the next TikTok trend about Evan's back on top yeah I can see them now Evan's back I some of y'all were just hating stuff like that I just was cracking the hell up about the like on TikTok the search bar was always like Evan's fall off clip and people were like trying to find the clip of you like physically falling off which obviously doesn't exist him falling off the bike yeah yeah like him falling off the bike and that's that I was gonna just take one you guys have been asking us to talk about that on the podcast so we did there we go yeah let's go eat lunch thanks for watching guys don't forget to like and subscribe also we're getting close to five million on YouTube so that you're going to go into a better help add right there from oh god yeah 40,000 away from five minutes of a party at that yeah what are we doing for that we actually have to figure that out and we're actually running out of time I think we do it here but I'm I think that's a brilliant idea but like what else break chairs oh yeah we just run back the one million party but for five do it bigger chairs I'm inviting Ben crashes a three-wheeler into the couch let's go big meet up the next day bring big camera to smash a whiteboard bring all of our parents there and they're still gonna be disappointed like cook us food and cakes and then we just chuck it across the rooms and then make them clean it up in the morning yeah that was crazy that was crazy they're gonna be like man they just never learn we do go do something good for it because it's gonna like five is more of a monument or than six or seven yeah so it's like you hit five and then the next time we throw one will be ten yeah and I mean well throw one for all of them but the other ones can just be like parties that's five five can't just be a party five is just like you invite everyone it seemed like such a blur from one million like I don't really remember hitting two three or four well bro it's like I remember when I made like the the two million hoodie design and then all of a sudden boom we're rolling up on five which one did we do like on the ice where we did the minothots was that two or three is one that was one yeah that was one why you want to run it back drop some comments down below maybe give us some good I just I really think we got to just have our families all of our friends anyone that's ever helped us along the way they pull up and it's just a good old shop party and I kind of be lit maybe we'll invite one one fan I'll be really calm down below yeah if it was like a giveaway or we just randomly picked one subscriber I don't know it'd be cool though all right we got a lot to think about yeah we got a little bit of time but if you made it to this point in the podcast appreciate you subscribe if you're new we drop podcasts every Tuesday we'll see you next week

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Gambling can rapidly deplete wealth, as demonstrated by a 24-hour session where the speaker lost $7,000 despite initial gains.
  2. The speaker shares a personal experience of online gambling, highlighting how addictive and fast-paced these platforms are, leading to significant financial loss.
  3. A hunting trip with friends in Colorado reveals the physical and mental challenges of elk hunting, including treacherous terrain, thick brush, and the difficulty of spotting animals.
  4. The hunt culminates in successfully shooting a bear, which is later turned into a rug, illustrating the adventurous and unpredictable nature of the experience.
  5. The speaker emphasizes the thrill of hunting but contrasts it with the emotional and financial risks of gambling.
  6. A Nashville trip is described as a mix of enjoyable experiences—great food, a vibrant car culture, and a surprise encounter with friends dancing—though overshadowed by loud, repetitive country music.
  7. The episode critiques the lack of meaningful activities in Nashville, emphasizing the contrast between the city’s energy and the speaker’s preference for structured, fulfilling experiences.
  8. The host urges caution against online gambling, advocating for discipline and alternative forms of entertainment like investing in stable stocks for a more sustainable thrill.

Summary:

The transcript blends personal stories of extreme gambling loss with a detailed account of an adventurous elk hunting trip in Colorado. The speaker recounts a 24-hour gambling session where they lost $7,000 despite brief wins, illustrating how quickly online gambling can drain wealth and how addictive it is. This experience contrasts sharply with the physical and mental challenges of elk hunting, where terrain, thick brush, and high-stakes observation make spotting animals nearly impossible.

Despite the difficulty, the hunt culminates in a successful bear hunt, which is later repurposed into a rug, highlighting both the thrill and unpredictability of the activity. The narrative also covers a brief but vivid visit to Nashville, where the speaker notes the overwhelming presence of country music and flashy cars, yet finds the experience fragmented and exhausting due to lack of meaningful interaction. A key takeaway is the warning against gambling, with the host emphasizing that such losses are emotionally and financially devastating.

Instead, they recommend disciplined alternatives like investing in stable stocks as a safer, more controlled form of excitement. The overarching theme is the contrast between impulsive, high-risk activities—like gambling or unstructured social events—and the deeper satisfaction found in disciplined, intentional experiences such as hunting or mindful investing. These stories collectively serve as a cautionary tale about self-control and the importance of choosing experiences that provide lasting value over fleeting, risky thrills.

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Gambling is described as the quickest way to lose wealth, and the speaker emphasizes how easily people can lose large sums of money in a short time, often due to addictive patterns and lack of self-control.

The speaker lost $7,000 in a single 24-hour session, having started with $100 and eventually losing all their winnings despite briefly being up to $6,900.

The speaker admitted to playing online casino games for 24 hours straight, often losing money in quick, unpredictable streaks, and expressed regret and shame over the experience.

The speaker noted that online gambling is highly addictive, lacks transparency, and can lead to rapid financial loss, making it dangerous even when done for entertainment.

The speaker recommends investing in basic stocks like Amazon, Google, or Tesla as a safer, more controlled way to experience the thrill of financial ups and downs without risking large amounts of money.

The speaker sees online gambling as more dangerous due to its accessibility, speed, and addictive nature, while suggesting that low-stakes, in-person games like Blackjack with small bets are less damaging.

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