Deshae Frost: Compton to Capaholics House, Kai Cenat & DDG + SWAT Acting EP 82 | The Crew Has It
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The speaker shares a journey from early acting roles and struggles with auditions to a successful pivot into full-time streaming. Starting with a brother-sister YouTube channel that gained traction quickly, they built a loyal audience through authenticity and relatable content. A pivotal 25-day subathon solidified their presence, leading to recognition as one of the top Black streamers. Influenced by figures like DDG, they emphasize resilience, authenticity, and long-term investment in content over short-term gains. Travel experiences, like their trip to Jamaica, highlight their dedication to cultural immersion. They now focus entirely on streaming, embracing platforms like Kick for better reach and discoverability, and prioritize real, unfiltered interactions with viewers. The speaker rejects the myth of "cancellation," stating that criticism is often exaggerated or temporary. They view streaming as a deeply personal creative outlet, where humor, vulnerability, and genuine connections drive engagement. Despite early financial struggles, they’ve grown into a trusted figure known for authenticity, humor, and resilience. Their future goals include expanding content depth and collaborating with popular streamers like Six Nine, while maintaining a commitment to real, human connections over scripted performance.
people hate me like bro you've never seen episode of power like i've seen clips and stuff but like
anything this guy's only ever seen clip his baby's gonna be born he's like did you see he goes nah
but i saw clips of it it looked fire bro like we had a bunch of clippers clip the birth of my baby
and that shit went crazy though
last one to the airport buys breakfast
day one day one
but where did you where did you guys first link up the earliest i remember is like uh
like just going to his birthday that's the earliest i remember his birthday party
that's what i remember which one was that my yeah and i was lit i was my i think that was my 23rd i
believe yeah in new york it might have been my 23rd but we we linked up a few times
before that too though we linked up like in atlanta and when you was there in atlanta
yeah atlanta jamaica yes oh no no oh yeah yeah that's like when i first started streaming like
that i was like so do you do stuff with kai i'm trying to get more tapped into the stream world
do you do stuff with kai and or or is that like a separate yeah when i like yeah yeah when i first
started streaming like when i first moved to atlanta i was doing we were doing hella stuff
and then like you know he told me like just like the ins and outs of like streaming stuff like that
and definitely you know he took a break and stuff like that but i mean
i think the last time i've seen him recently i've seen him recently so so you moved to la
yeah first how old were you um i was like 12. oh that young yeah where'd you move from
i moved to uh from seattle washington fire so you moved to la to pursue acting entertainment stuff
yeah i wanted to be an actor and then like social media just kind of just like
took over pretty much so yeah yeah so what did you like you moved out here and then
did you start auditioning did you go to high school yeah i moved out to
la you know from seattle me my mom my sister my brother we just took like a we were getting
evicted from seattle from our place so we just like it let's just go yeah we went out there
started acting and stuff like that and just auditioning you know right you know how the
audition process is so it was like all right like it was that it was good you know what i'm saying
it was just like years it's just like no no and then i got this like show it's called swat oh yeah
yeah i saw that yeah yeah so um i just did that you know they brought me i did one episode they
brought me back for for like a couple years but then youtube my sister wanted me to do a youtube
video so she asked me to do one and i really wasn't with it because like it was just
like i want to be an actor you know i want to be the biggest actor or whatever that's literally me
yeah exactly you know and um i don't know back then i felt like actors wasn't really
like what was this 2016 2017. i just wasn't really with the whole youtube
dude it was one or the other yeah exactly it was like logan paul it was like that was the
only person we looked at it like i don't like you know what i'm saying so after that i'll start doing
it with her and like that just blew up like i think it got to like we got to like a million
subs in like two months or something and it was kind of just like kind of choosing which one yeah
it was crazy and i was what was the content like then that was making it blow up so fast i really
please help us no i think it was just really like stuff they wondered like seeing stuff from me and
my sister like even to this day like it's still like they love that dynamic of just brother sister
like content and so it was just kind of a thing where it was like bro like i see what's working and
so let's just like do it and just like run it run it up and just run it up the mud and um yeah that's
pretty much was it and like i think the first month when i got my first because i was i had
nothing i was poor as like you know you know one episode or whatever bro you're losing that
five thousand dollars seven thousand dollars is nothing like you know and you don't know
the next time you're gonna get something right so when i do the youtube videos with her i think our
first month of like it was like 50 000 like first month on youtube ever and i was like yeah bro like
i gotta do this like i can't yeah so that was the first month that i got my first month on youtube
that was youtube revenue or was that like brand stuff or both no that was youtube revenue like we
didn't have no brands like you know like it was a month you know so it was just posting every day and
you know i was living in crenshaw like broken doors like like door like like like no doorknobs
like jail bars on our windows right it was just like my sister was in a sunroom like she
even had no room it was just like a you know put plants and like that's where she was sleeping
and so it was kind of just like all right we got to make a way we can't rely on this like
going because you know auditioning back
back then it was before kobe you have to look can i cuss yeah yeah oh like you guys know like bro
reading uh scripts and like sides and all that stuff and doing all these things and then going
there and then not even hearing nothing back and driving 45 minutes to santa monica and all these
like that and then and then there's 30 offers out to actors anyways for that role and you lose
your to jacob latimore i lose some to michael like literally like what the you know what i'm saying
like i'm not i'm just saying like that type of things but like um yeah no no definitely like
that's just kind of a situation like for like there's been a couple things that i've auditioned
for never got like i don't know euphoria just all the different type of things remember the world
like all american you know but yeah was there anything that you auditioned for
that you like really wanted um bro it's been so long i don't even know like
i don't even know i'm not gonna there was like this like i remember there was like a
like this like like uh what is dc something like that like with warner they made like a like a tv
show for the titans or something oh yeah yeah yeah and like i was like up like one of the last ones
for this thing called like beast boy and i was like damn like i signed the contract it was like
had a thing at warner bros and the audition and the production and this was made me be like man
this i had the audition uh everything whatever they call me back i go to the um the place
they're like literally telling me like yeah like you most likely got it you go into the room you're
making them laugh all the producers the whole thing is kind of scary and then sign the contract
or whatever and they're just like yeah nah you didn't get it i was like what the who wound up
getting it um some asian dude i forgot some asian dude i don't remember his name but he was in like
some other too like some other thing sometimes it feels better though when like like there's a show
that like they cast uh and it fails no but that too but i don't ever wish that sometimes but like
when they cast someone that's like you're black and like they cast an asian person oh yeah you're
white and they cast a black guy you're like yeah yeah like it was like a kevin hart movie that i
just went in for a bunch and then they cam patterson who i love wound up getting the role
and i was like ah they weren't even looking yeah exactly like they weren't even you know but right
i love to see like people even if my friends get it or something like i love stuff like that you
know what i'm saying for sure do you still audition now or nah nah you're done with acting completely
i yeah pretty much like if i did something like where say like my friends are creating
something or something where they're like yo we're looking for you for this role like
it's just not like okay auditioning and doing these things then yeah i probably would but like
an aspect of like trying to put out like figure out lines and all these things and just being
like at the bottom like no i can't i'm not gonna lie did you hate auditioning um
i i liked it i i'm not i liked it when i like had nothing because it was like
everyone i thought i was gonna get it you know i was like that that that that just like maybe that
you just need one yes you know yeah but you guys like you guys like you guys got that like
for real like they just like yeah we got this we got this we got this when it comes to where like
you have that's what it that's what it's called leverage i don't have no leverage right when you
guys have leverage it's more it's more better and it's more just you can you can you can say no or
or want to go something or you have a better chance
you know what i mean but but i would think now that you have your following you have a little
leverage yeah but who cares like as becoming as being an actor first like bro you do not want to
get a role because you have followers yeah i guess you're right you don't want to be casted as the
shade for us the social media you know what i'm saying you're a real storyteller storytelling
character where it's you can you got to depict you know what i'm saying you have to be a real
character yeah so when i like when i audition or if i audition like it's not
i'm trying to be a real character and real something you know but yeah but i'm not
technically saying you have to play yourself i'm just saying because you have your following like
you're in a movie especially since the way that the industry is moving like because you're in
because you have your you and you have your following and like you have a movie come out
you're like oh i'm gonna go on the red carpet and promote this movie on stream yeah you have your
your followers who are going to go watch that so like i remember i used to hate on stuff like that
when i didn't have the following and i'm like they're only casting these because yeah and then
i got the millions of followers and i'm like hell yeah but but it doesn't really work like that like
realistically they're not gonna just cast you because you have the phone but you do have i
would say a little more leverage than you probably did before all the social yeah it's not definitely
with new times and things like that but what i really like to do i feel like that that acting
stage was more like um you know i believe in like divine the divine time you know what i'm saying so
like that built me into like doing streaming and youtube and like really streaming for real and
like i feel like i'm a great improv person right so it's like i can do that and i just put it into
my twitch like acting and just like all the characters because my twitch me on twitch is
a character yeah yeah so it's like really that's just i'm just acting pretty much for four hours
straight five hours straight is that how long you stream for every you do every day yeah i try to do
every day but at least like four hours you know that doesn't get exhausting um yeah sometimes but
it's like you know when you're really just sitting there just talking to your chat it's like it's fun
yeah you don't know you don't know what to do like you vibing you're like your chat be funny as hell
depending what type of character the type of person you are you know like they see they see
like your brother you know they see your brother in you so it's like you want to just
you just want to you just chill with them people just vibing it's like you it's like this yeah
yeah like this this is pretty much like a stream like literally pretty much but we're just talking
to each other but people would just be watching yeah so when when the youtube was popping off and
you were making the money when did you a make the decision okay i'm not gonna act anymore i'm gonna
focus full-time on this and then when did it really blow the fuck up yeah um like when i um
yeah i'm that first check i was like yeah i'm okay done wow the first because it was yeah the
first check yeah it was like 50 000 and then like i used that to get out and then um get out of
cringe show and everything so then i started doing more and more and more videos and i was like okay
then i met ddg and then where'd you guys meet i met him on instagram i met him i just damn i didn't
know who ddg was like when i first because i wasn't into youtube i was just watching shows
and movies to like perfect my craft you know and what year was it when you met him um 2019 like
yeah when i first started so i i met
him three months into doing youtube because anything that i want to be like successful in
i'm like i'm a student like i study right so i'm like okay like who is like the person that's like
doing it right now like who's black like whatever i figured he was black he had a sister like me at
that time ddg was running youtube too like yeah yeah like he he was a he had a he had a he has a
brother you know what i'm saying so i have a brother i'm like okay this is kind of i could
kind of study and so i hit him up to do a youtube video he didn't respond unsent that bitch then i
i'm like hey what are you doing tonight on set yeah i'm saying hold on what's the what's the
what's the threshold like how long does it take until you understand this shit
like how much time does she get i'll give it a week a week i'll give it a week and on and then
i'm not a week as long as hell i'll give it like that's two a day or two 24 hours what's so funny
is there's a girl that like i know now that she's super cute we're i was at a party with her the
other uh maybe like a week ago she was like i seen you on sent some dms a couple of times and i'm like
a couple years ago i hate and i'm like you boys so you fucking saw it so you saw it like what now
you want my shit like i hate that shit when they be like like unsending messages wow like what the
fuck yeah you just answered that yeah that's why i message in um disappearing mode but you can't do
that on the first one can you yeah that's why i put a period
he's got it
i didn't do that on the first one can you yeah that's why i put a period
you're gonna expose you're not exposed but you're gonna post me doing a period like what the fuck
i don't see my thing is is like i don't have an ego about dms yeah like a lot of like if a girl
went publicly and was like gianni slid in my dms and i didn't answer i'd be like fucking right i
did like i i'm not like there's a lot of people who would like be i don't give a fuck i'm like
yeah shoot my shot like i don't care yeah nah dead ass i just i don't know girls just be like
so weird i hate that like screenshot and all that thing it's like damn bro like just talk
a normal conversation you know like everything is like clouding and like they just want to say
that this person did that i'm like oh my god yeah yeah um do you have a girlfriend nah i don't i'm
single i wasn't really shit though and you just yeah i was just like it just didn't work out but
like how long ago she's british it was like a couple months ago this brit a british girl her
name is renee type you you and mike on that british way for a little bit you got a british
girl nah not right now i did it in the past but like all right now wait is that the one that is
a twin yes yes oh yeah she's a twin yeah so we was talking for like a couple months or whatever
but she look cool but yeah yeah she was like the british that was my first time ever like dealing
with a british girl it was crazy what was the difference in it you just it's just like brother
actually i don't understand what the fuck they saying yeah you know what i'm saying i'm learning
things like and they're they have like attitude a little bit where not like attitude but like
they're they're very like um i don't know what the word to put it is but they're just
like you know what i mean yeah yeah yeah british girls are very like very like the ones i've met
like they've been like how she is like she's very like just like um like she's like just a girl like
a girl like class like class like i don't know like she just some british girls just be wild
and are are you like uh are you a relationship guy are you a one night stand guy are you just
not really like me like people think i'm a like a one night stand guy but like i really am a lover
boy though like really like whatever i portray on the internet like i get like that's just for like
stuff but really like i'm like a lover boy like you know what i'm saying like i do i do want a
girlfriend but i do be it up it's like happening it's like okay i can't stay it's
michael too yeah like you know what i'm saying like it's like okay i'm in this lover boy stage
and then it's like a couple months in i'm like well you get comfortable you want you want you
always think the grass is greener you want what you don't have yeah you're in a relationship you're
like oh i'm happy i don't want to and i'm i know exactly and it's like i'm easily influenced you
don't try if it's gonna trap me with a dm or a gonna try me once you see me in public
you got me you know what i'm saying most likely you i just gotta i gotta have more willpower
i gotta have more discernment like like no it's hard yeah it is hard it's hard like you're out
and you're like oh my god look at that you know what i mean like i had a girlfriend like for like
five like five years ago during the pandemic and it was and it was around the time that power first
happened and it was everything was like kind of new to me and i it was just it's hard it's hard
yeah exactly and it's like if you're it's the greatest time to be in a relationship was during
the pandemic you can't see nobody right you can't go no places let's just cuddle up be in this
room with our mask on and it you know they're saying there's another there's another
what is it meningitis what's the new one or something like halitosis virus something yeah
i think that's bad breath but um i uh yeah it's hanta virus what is it it's called a hanta hanta
virus and what's happening they're on the cruise ship and people are getting it bro there's some
weird bro they say it supposedly comes from like rodents and all type of and they're
saying it's going to be like bad like a lot of people are saying they're predicting it's going
to be like another another pandemic like like it was a few minutes ago i don't think the world's
going to survive another pandemic no i can't go through another pandemic i'm not going what did
you do during the pandemic just made content bro i was sick as hell like i was just in the crib like
every day because i was in l.a which is the worst place to be like everything was closed you know
everything was so strange but wait so do they was lit
and you had to get a shot remember you had to get a shot i was doing swat yeah and you had to um
get a shot to be on set and all that yeah we did that yeah i did not do that oh i'm not acting no
more you know i did not do that hey hey remember that that that uh piece of paper yeah that
car yeah but i went to new york bought one a fake one of somebody yeah got it i was straight and you
showed this your show yeah i showed the producer yeah like because i mean people are suing now that
like you made me get this thing and yeah hell no i'm not taking that like remember you
had to go to the the set and you had to show them that you had the stamp or whatever i faked that
bought it for 500 off a in new york that was straight i can't get in trouble nobody got sick
so yeah yeah um he was dead ass getting sick from getting that shot though should be going crazy now
yeah like bro people you're not gonna do nothing to me but yeah hell no i was straight you're not
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i say where it is does your family still live in that building that i lived in what what area was
that in in burbank you know where it is you know where it is you know where it is you know where it
um wait in burbank didn't didn't you live in that we could believe it
oh yeah yeah yeah i lived there for like oh yeah yeah yeah yeah you was there yeah i lived there
yeah my family didn't i did okay do you still you don't live no no no no no i'm sorry i'm in like
the cataholics house like oh oh but i'm gonna get up like if the like i'm might get an apartment
there again i'm not gonna lie it's kind of like fun yeah it's vibes you still there no no i'm not
there anymore but it's like a trap house like it's kind of like it's just always like every apartment
is doing crazy there's like porn stars that live there really oh yeah wait what bro that building
was crazy uh uh there was like got me i might move to l.a that's what i'm saying i've been trying to
get him to move to l.a that's all i needed bro my my home never told me you never told me you had
the p stars in there you're not that's crazy i'm not gonna yeah i definitely i definitely gotta go
back or get an apartment there for sure yeah it was fire but you would stream at that place and
get worried that people like know where you live and i was vlogging i never i never really i did
like four streams just because like yeah i don't know trying things out but um i was more of a like
youtuber there i only started i started streaming 2024 when i was living in that oh five yeah and
then um yeah that's pretty much it like i started doing that in 2024 but i don't really be tripping
like it is what it is bro i just be starting it i don't feel like i'm at no like high snat level
where like people's doxing me and trying my address and things like that but like be having fun bro you
should you do irl streaming too right yeah mostly desktop irel but like yeah i feel like i thrive in
irel because it's like more yeah just things are happening like you know what i'm saying like when
i went to jamaica with him bro i literally went viral in jamaica for getting rejected like they
was not on me that ass and i said it was because i didn't i forgot my chains in america so
he's like russia for my training you know that time yo around that i don't think i don't i don't
think i broke my chains that time either bro like he was getting all the girls or like just i mean
i wonder what's a hilarious story is that when i went to jamaica for the first time during the
pandemic you had to when you landed you had to quarantine yeah um like no exceptions and
i signed a piece of paper when i landed that said if you don't quarantine um and we catch you out
in like in the seven days then or i think at that time might have been two weeks
you're agreeing to hard imprisonment or labor what the fuck and i signed a piece of paper
and i was looking at michael at the airport like before you even left the airport i'm like
michael i don't know like look i don't know if i can do jamaica so that's the king of jamaica but
yeah so then he showed me there was like a picture on the wall of like the the is it a governor or
what is it of the prime minister the prime minister it's like a picture on the wall at
the airport and he goes you see that guy right there and i was like yeah like as i'm signing
the paper he's like go to his instagram literally went to his instagram the guy followed like six
people one of them was michael rainey jr and the other one was powerbook2 ghost i'm like oh
not really he runs jamaica no he really does he took me he took me he took me to uh the hood he
took me to the hood everywhere everywhere i'm like yeah like and i'm like this one i just started
streaming so i just not really knowing what's going on bro we went there like i'm trying
oxtail like kurt like jay making chicken i'm like yeah that was a fun ass day that was a fun
i was like genuinely and that's what i love and that's i'm not gonna lie like i never told him
this but like i'm like yo like i really appreciate this this is what i feel like like i need to do like
just i when i travel somewhere yeah like get into the culture yeah like he started that whole thing
for me of like okay going to a country finding somebody that's good in that country and just
embodying the culture you know and i feel like the jamaican people appreciated that a lot you know
100 and and stuff that i love anywhere and do all this sexy luxurious yeah like already doing
america exactly yeah show the real go to the hood like see what's going on yeah yeah we gotta go
back for show hell yeah now that it's like different like hell yeah yeah because i didn't ever see jamaica
when it was nuts michael we got to go back we should all plan that for sure but i think the
best part about what you do is that you have like as an actor you really don't have um a lot of like
you got to be somewhere you got to be on set for those eight months that you're shooting 12 hours
yeah like you you're the luxury of what you have is like you could literally travel anywhere and
it be work yeah so you could fly to bali and stream you could fly to this place
so do you do that a lot or yeah yeah hell yeah i love traveling i love doing different things
like i have no hobbies because like my work is my hobby right you know what i'm saying like
everyone anywhere i want to go you just all right bro get my cameraman let's just start and just
let's just go you know so that's probably the best thing i love about just like streamings that
there's no limits there's no waking up at certain times it's just bro what do you want to do that
day what do you want to have fun go hang out with your friends let's just let's just start
that and just go right do you have any favorite streams that you remember that you did or
any type of video ideas that like popped off obviously the jamaica one
yeah jamaica one that was really fun um i i'm trying to think like there's so many i did a i
did a subathon that was like like that's the main thing like it was like i streamed for like 25 days
straight without stopping what yeah like my first year of streaming um yeah yeah i like i think that
was like a big that was a big crazy one but like would you ever like leave the room and go anywhere
else or they were with you the whole time like go to the bathroom yeah but like yeah they were
they see me like 98 percent of the time and would you slept they just would yeah yeah they would just
watch me sleep uh watch me sleep so what if you like fart during the night and that's cool you
just you know that's more that's more authentic yeah you could like that yeah so it was crazy but
it was it was fun like i don't know how i did it i'm gonna do another one though at the end of this
year 25 days and then how many subscribers did you get during that 25 days i was the first i
was my first year streaming so i think i got to 20 000. wow and that's solid for a kid yeah yeah
i think yeah yeah uh twitch yeah i uh i think i was like when i ended up at like top 12 times
top 10 black streamers of that month or something like that yeah it was cool if uh do you have any
like goals or stuff like that with streaming or if you wanted to go back to acting and do like a
certain role like do you have goals or even music like do you have any any interest in music nah nah
i really just love streaming bro i'm gonna be one of the biggest streamers like i'm just putting that
all into that like that's really just like something you know when you just like like you
just love something so much like that's what i love bro i'm gonna do that like i'm telling you
i'm gonna be one of the biggest like very soon very soon i just made like a recently like switch
over to kick to like see like how it goes over there because it's more like just different you
know and um how long you been on each other for like three days three days and what's the
difference in the platforms and all that um i'm i'm getting game today yeah not not it's uh was
no ads and also like um well i'm not really doing for the money you do get paid more and stuff like
that but what i'm doing is like it's more like you don't really get banned like you could really be
like like edgy like say certain things but the main reason i'm doing is like because like clips
too like right i feel like before they didn't really have much discoverability but what well
i said this before on my stream but kick has um they bought like all the clippers so like on tick
tockers things like that you don't really see as much twitch i see all kick now exactly everything
even with neon because he did wild out and he was backstage all stuff clipped of me from kick exactly
you don't really see because twitch don't have any like marketing they just like if people clip you on
twitch they just do it out of love you know but kick they bought all the big clip pages instagram
pages twitter pages and like you can only clip kick streamers so that's pretty much what i went
over and like pretty much just i'm gonna see how that go but i have a i have a really good feeling
i have a really good feeling something like crazy is gonna happen so how do you feel about
controversy controversy and like stuff that like do you deal with that well do you look for it like
um yeah i mean because it's hard to control when you just like everything is live bro like yeah
everything is live dude literally last night a lot of that happens last night this is
probably a week later but like when this comes out but my homie ryan powell who he hosts that
pillow talk podcast i don't know if you know who he is clavicular was at his party that he um
That he did there was a big fight where like a bunch of people jumped someone and the clavicular was going up to all the
Porn stars and being like mad disrespectful to him and now there's a million things about just shitting on him and it's like he didn't
Even know what was happening
So like he's now controversial in this because of clavicular like do you thrive in those situations?
Do you look for do you try and get away now?
I don't try to look for it
But it'd be finding me like like first from my first time beating Michael till now
I probably don't got canceled like ten times from what I didn't you from what just
Well, I first met Michael. I was never cancer. I've never got cancer before
No, I'm saying like from the time from the time span like cuz in like the year like from the time span from like those
Three years, but we got canceled like tens. I really tried to but just hella different shit, though
But like I don't know it's just hella controversial but like I try not to look for it. There's just never stick though
You always you yeah. Yeah, it's so weird like like even even but one thing
I fuck with Michael too cuz I during those times like the big times like he's always texting me like yo
Like keep your head up. I'm like just certain things like but it was my first time happening
I was like sick as fuck. I was depressed
I was sad and he was like bro keep your head up like this you're gonna pass over just just little things
You know just to keep you can cut this if you don't want to talk about it
But I'm curious what like stuff that happened that made people not I I mean
It's like like like it was like fights and stuff for like nah, just like just like wild situations, bro
just like wild situations where like shit was just like blown out of proportion or just like lies mixed with like like clips where it's like
Okay, like it was just like a lot of shit, bro
I think I think that also your luxury is I mean even me and Theo had this conversation where?
like he doesn't need Hollywood for anything so
He you can't be oh the podcast person. Yeah, the comedian. Yeah, he's funny
I produced this podcast like almost seven eight years ago at this point
Yeah
I don't know the guest booking and everything but um
He doesn't need Hollywood and neither do you so you can't really get canceled because you are your own entity
Yeah, yeah, and I think like just with that situation
It's like people know my heart bro
Like for sure if like if somebody really really felt some type of way like anything like that like or no type person
It's like okay like that was bad, but like people know my heart and the thing is like you have to keep going, bro
You can't just get canceled or like people and cancellation is not even real like bro
Like it's just a group people who never fucked with you
Yeah
Who just now oh now it's just them their time to expand and really just amplify it exactly people are just
Tick tocks girls guys just want to say something so they can get viewers and all this stuff if it's the hot topic
You know what I'm saying?
so it's really just that bro if you just keep going like one thing I pride in is like I might either the best streamer or
the best fucking
Best-looking guy or anything, but one thing I know is I'm a funny-ass motherfucker. That's the one thing I know
So it's like as long as I just keep doing that and I know I put out good content
So it's you keep doing that then everything else would just come together as it goes and I really believe in just you know
I'm a child of God, and you know I make mistakes and things happen
But who are you to judge only God can judge me at the end of this time?
You know 100% what do you think makes the best streamer?
I think you know often does it yeah authenticity
I feel like that like when you're authentic and once you like kind of just like you start going fake and stuff people can see
that but once you're real and people fuck with you and and they see what what who you are as a person and
They're gonna ride with you no matter what you do right or wrong
They're gonna ride with you no matter what so I try to be authentic though the whole time
You know it is a character like it's just but it's still same me just amplify
You know cuz I'm really a quiet person like for real off camera
Is there anything that you do to get better at streaming off stream or it's just kind of like you get better as you do
It um, I watch a lot of tick-tock just start the ideas
I try to watch movies and TV shows and try to do things like that and right now
I'm in the process of just like trying to put like bigger projects like money behind be in my stream
So like real big money into my stream so it could just be like amplified and and just leave like a kind of like a legacy
You feel what I'm saying? Yeah, DDG came out. He said he lost like hundreds of thousands of dollars
Yeah on oh you're talking about are you my ball? Oh, yeah, was it the dating show that he did? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, not I mean, that's the most what's the most bread you spend on the
project or like
Content like campaign time shit my uh, it was my sub-a-thon. It's probably like a hundred hundred fifty
Thousand or some shit like that. That was the most but that's bad though
It's like to where I'm at right now
I should be spending like, you know certain like more and better shit cuz it's like I was two years ago
You know what I'm saying? But it was 25, but that was your first year streaming too. So spending that bad
Yeah, exactly. That is yeah. It was that it was good. Yeah, that was it
That was a risk and I was a risks. I don't know how to it was the day after Kai shit
It was like it was a um, because his shit in this
His shit ended November 30th or 31st, whatever the last day November is
Am I sure?
It started December 1st, so it was kind of like a I bet you know niggas was trying to hate
But that shit was the biggest shit right after it was the biggest show right after that and it kind of just came kind of
Catapulted me and to be able doing that
but now I'm trying to just like really spin the bag and just put it all into my content because if you really think about
it the people who spend like put all their money into their content and
The biggest mr. Beast. Yeah, I told me he literally puts all his money into his content
I'm sure speed does you know what I'm saying?
So like when you when you do
That they see it you don't want to just make these millions of dollars and like just yeah mediocre
You don't wanna be average
So, uh, did you get any great advice from like Kai or DDG or mr. Beast or anyone like that that like gave you good?
Advice. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I never met mr. Beast or talk to mr. Beast
But like I yeah DDG just always well
I've learned from DDG just always just to stick through like just cuz you know
He's they always try to hate farm him and everything so just sticking through like I see these literally every day
So just he'll he'll talk to me and just tell me to keep
Pushing through and just certain scenarios and just relate to me about it and just telling me just like all this shit is fake, bro
All this shit is fake, bro
People who didn't like you never liked you from the beginning and they don't give a fuck, you know
And he told me he was like bro, like if you died today right now, bro, sad fact is some people gonna laugh
You know what I'm saying? So it's like why the fuck would you care? Why the fuck would you care what they saying anyways?
You know what I'm saying?
So this shit is fake like just just live who you are as a person you go through your bumps your you you've grown up on the
I've grown up on the interests. I was 12 years old. It's kind of Instagram videos and all different type of things
You're bound to mess up. You're bound to fuck up
So it's kind of that cause you know always just like certain things like just teaching me just certain things with streaming and just like
even like I said putting your money into your your content and all different type of things and
Teaching me just like just the ground the grounds levels of being a streamer and just wanting to just to be the best and just
Those roads, you know
Do you have any plans for any streams coming up or anything like big picture you have that like oh this is
Is gonna be sick or this is like a goal of mine to do
Yeah, I'm doing it
Um, I'm doing the stream like I did one before but like I'm pissing up the stream with me six nine and like his name's
Dean and a B. They're like really popular stuff. Yo
They got the internet in a chokehold
That's what I'm saying. Exactly like they're funny as hell. So we're all gonna do a stream
Real soon real soon. So is that and I'm yeah, I'm gonna do another sub-a-thon 25 days at the end of this year
And yeah, pretty much dude six nine is hilarious
He's funny as hell. Are you man? Yeah
Yeah
Now you go like that there that's what I'm saying, like they're on everybody's phone there they're on kick
You know I'm saying so what's going on is kick is pushing the fuck out of them, right?
They're hella funny, you know, so that's what's going on
And um, yeah, that's that's pretty much what I was saying like six nine. I met him. I did his first stream
I did his first stream. He was only I think I think I was probably the first dreamer he was on besides like a K on some
like
guest starship
but a Kate
academics, um set that up for me in six nine because I did a stream where I went to Vegas and I snitched on my
Bro and went to jail because you smoke a weed in Vegas. And so the next thing I came on
We snitch on your brother. You're real the brother. No, no, no a Catholic brother like my group
I like they pulled up like they police pulled up on Vegas
I don't know you can see you couldn't smoke in public and they thought they came up to me that that had a blunt
But he had the blunt and I pointed at him and they got him
Did you get hated for that? Yeah, but fuck it like, you know what I'm saying?
Like they already knew they like when they realized it was him. I pointed at him. So it took them to jail flight the night and shit like but I'm like saying like he a rapper or shit like that
It's just more credit, you know, I'm a civilian
So I don't want to do none of that, you know me but but in like I can't last in jail
I'm five five, bro. Like what the fuck?
I'm basically a bitch at that point. Like when I go to jail, I'm a bitch and I don't got time
I don't got time to do any of that. So I got to be my best behavior, but
When I go to when I when I yeah pulled up next stream was six nine dreads
Like I was a six nine cuz I was snitching and shit just playing that's hilarious and then academics
Showed six nine and he was like yo, what the fuck like what the fuck hell not like whatever
He was like I fucked his bitch six. I was like I fuck this bitch that I don't mind you. It wasn't my bitch
It was just a bitch. I was on stream. Yeah, I was like fuck that. That's not my bitch. Let's do a stream
Like what the fuck?
And then I flew to uh, Florida and did this dream that shit like that shit was everywhere
I think that's had like 20,000 people in there or something like yeah, it was it was it was it was one for the books
But he's a funny ass guy. He's a funny ass guy. He's a yeah, he's he's funny, bro
I fuck with him. What type of stuff do you consume like movies and and rat and like, you know music rappers?
like who do you like I'm always curious because like
People who are tapped in especially like streamers and and you know
The new wave youtubers like I'm curious what?
People are watching and what they like. Yeah, um me I really just like I don't know movies and stuff
I'm trying to watch different shit or TV shows, but like I just like scary movies. That's bad for like streaming for all
I'm not going to lie because it's like everything is just scary or whatever.
But there's no like creativity to be like, yo, I want to do this for a stream.
But I love like just scary movies and stuff like that.
But like I just watch, I really watch clips.
I try to watch streamers, like streams.
I don't watch YouTube videos for real.
But yeah, music, I listen to the main artists like really, I'm not really like really cultured
in like the really music aspects, Drake, you know what I'm saying?
My favorite two artists are Drake and Lil Yachty.
So those are the things.
Did you listen to the new album yet?
Yeah, I've been listening to this.
I fuck with it.
I like it.
I listen to the other two albums.
I listen to the main one though.
That's the one I've been playing.
The Iceman one.
He dropped three albums.
Three albums in one night is crazy.
I know it's going to take a year.
But this is what happens.
Drake drops an album.
Everyone says it sucks.
Six months later, they go, oh, it's actually pretty fire.
And then two years later, they're like, it's a legendary album.
Yeah, because I didn't like CLB when it first came out.
I thought that was going to be like hella rappy and shit.
I wanted it to be like that.
But now I look at it, I'm like, that shit fires.
Of course.
Same thing with fucking views.
I didn't know.
I didn't understand that.
I didn't fuck with that.
But then I was fucking 15, 14 when that came out.
Now I'm older.
I'm like, oh, shit.
My bitch did me wrong too.
I fuck with that.
I fuck with that.
Yeah, I feel like, especially three albums, it's going to be two, three years.
And you'll be like, oh, these are hits.
It takes so long to consume that.
Because you could like-
And then once you start hearing it in the clubs and the parties and shit too.
Yeah, when you start hearing the clubs, we're all followers.
Yeah, we're all followers.
When we see something in the club and seeing the shit, you're like, oh, yeah.
It's the first listen.
Everybody want to hate on the best.
Yeah, of course.
First listen.
But when your shit matures and marinates-
What's the craziest thing that's ever happened during a stream or while you were streaming
or when you were a part of one?
Bro, so many different things, bro.
I'm not tapped in.
See, I got to get more tapped in because I genuinely don't know, which is why I wanted
you on.
Because I love having people on that I'm like, I want to know.
I can't have people on the podcast that I've watched them on podcasts and I know everything
about them because I'm like, I'm just going to be asking the same question.
I'm just going to be asking the same question that everyone else has.
I'm genuinely curious.
Like, what's some crazy shit that happened?
Bro, there's so much shit, bro.
Literally, like, I remember, like, I got, like, head from my girlfriend on a stream
on accident.
Like, yeah, like, from DDG.
DD, like, I cut my stream off and DDG left his stream on my stream.
So, like, but I was with my girl.
So, like, when you do that, I didn't know he, he didn't tell me he put his, his camera
on my camera, like, connected to my stream.
He didn't tell me.
So, when I woke up in the morning, you know what I'm saying, I was with my girl.
So, I'm, like, vibing.
And my stream's off and his shit was on.
All night?
On me.
Yeah, like, on, in my room.
So, I didn't know that.
And so, then I get a text from, like, like, I get a text from one of my friends.
They're, like, why are you getting head on, on, on stream?
I'm, like, what?
My stream's off.
Like, what?
They're, like, go DDG stream.
Bro, go to his shit, bro.
I was so fucking sick.
I was sick as hell.
But, like, you can't see nothing, though.
You can't see nothing.
It's just, like, you know, just us in the bed or whatever and shit.
Thank God you're only getting head.
Imagine, like, you're getting your head.
I'm, like, like.
Damn, God.
Imagine that, dude.
Imagine.
Nah, nah.
I would definitely have to get off the internet for sure.
That'd be crazy.
I'm not even kidding.
Not a couple week break.
He'll be back.
There's no coming back from that shit.
There's no coming back.
Nah, that's crazy.
Wait, so what was the reaction?
And do you get, like, banned from that stuff?
Like, what's their repercussions?
Nah, he got a, um, he got a warning.
But they knew it was, like, an accident.
Yeah.
It was, like, my stream was off.
His stream was on.
But he got, he got a, uh, a warning.
You couldn't see nothing, literally.
You couldn't see no body parts or anything.
So it was kind of.
Was your girl pissed?
The girl?
Yeah, she was, like, what the fuck?
Like, she was sick as hell.
Like, oh, my God.
I knew I shouldn't have hanged out with these streamers.
I know that.
But, like, she knew it was an accident.
She, I told her, like, everything.
And she, I told her, like, my stream was off and everything.
But it was just a simple mistake.
It was cool.
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I know you're maybe friends with him, but I feel like Adrian Broner looks kind of like a crackhead now.
You say he looks like a crackhead?
Yeah.
Wait, why are you saying that?
I don't know.
He just looked like, he looked so sharp when he was boxing.
Maybe it's because he retired, but he looks like kind of fucked up.
Yeah, I feel like, I feel like, you know, people lose it and gain it and things like that.
But, you know, a lot of shit, you know, when you're the best and shit like that, sometimes people fall short because of all the distractions, the girls, like, you know, like the alcohol.
Because he drinks a lot.
He drinks a lot.
I think maybe that's what it is.
Yeah, he just drinks a lot.
So, he's older.
But, like, he found a new lane of just like, because, bro, it's hard.
Once you, like, lose it, like, and you're at the top and you, the worst thing to happen.
Missing somebody is for them to get it all and then lose it.
Yeah, lose it all.
I'd rather never get it.
Yeah.
Because you'll never know what it feels like.
But when you get it all and you lose it, you have, you know, that feeling, you know what it's like for everybody to love you and thrive for you.
So, I feel like he just, like, he's finding a new lane.
He's finding a new lane with streaming.
And Dean has helped him out.
And they're, like, they're going crazy.
I feel like he'll really prosper and kind of just, like, he can make money and go crazy, you know.
So, I think he's going to really succeed if he stays focused.
So, what's his, like, what kind of content does he do?
I'd be saying, like, just content.
I'd be saying, like, just clips of him and Dean, like, just, like, out partying and just, like, he's just, like, a comical guy, bro.
It's just, like, a duo thing.
And it's always AB tripping out and then Dean got to be the one to cop him down and shit.
Yeah, exactly.
That shit is so funny, bro.
Like, you always want to fight Dean, bro.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, if he had a party, if he get too drunk, he'd be like, yo, yo, you tripping, bro.
We got to go.
He's like, he said, nigga, I ain't going nowhere.
He'd be wilding, bro.
That shit is so funny, though.
It's okay.
It's just some black shit.
You'll see on your TikTok or something like that.
I need more black shit.
Yeah, you just need more black shit in your time.
Did you watch the Kevin Hart roast?
I've seen some clips or stuff like that.
Was it funny?
I mean, I loved it.
Really?
I thought it was great.
I love Shane Gillis.
Like, do you watch a lot of stand-up?
I used to.
I don't know who Shane Gillis is, though.
He was the one that hosted it.
So, essentially, Shane did get successfully canceled, but then not really.
So, Shane, he's the shortest running SNL cast member.
He was on Saturday Night Live for, I think, what was it, Mike?
12 hours?
12 hours.
He got cast on SNL, posted at like 8 o'clock at night.
The next morning, he had gotten fired without even doing an episode or anything
because someone combed through his podcast and he said something racist about Asian people.
I don't know specifically what he said.
Got fired, and then now he's legitimately the biggest comedian in the world.
Like, three or four years later, was just like selling out arenas, doing crazy.
Didn't go through the machine of Hollywood, and now he just blew up.
So, he hosted it with the roast of Kevin Hart.
But I went to the Tom Brady roast, and I felt like, look, I think Kevin Hart is top three comedians of all time.
Like, the GOAT.
But I think that it was just a watered-down version of what the Tom Brady was.
Did you see that one?
No, I didn't see the Tom Brady.
You should watch that.
Yeah, I probably got to watch them.
And I think it would help you for a lot of, like, because you're, you know, you got to be funny.
It, like, lets you see, kind of, like. Like, the formula of, like, roasting people, and being funny, and this and that.
And those rooms are so tight.
Yeah, I used to do stand-up.
That's what I first, before acting and everything, I did stand-up.
No way, where?
I did stand-up to be an actor.
I did acting to be famous, and I fucking started, ended up doing social media.
Wait, where did you do stand-up?
Just, like, the Laugh Factory, like, comedy, like, all them places in LA and stuff like that.
All the places I just did it.
But I was, like, I had to sneak to get in, and they had to get me on there and then leave.
Because I was, what, 12, 13 at the time.
You were doing stand-up at 12?
Yeah.
Oh, my.
That's a good break to say that my birthday at the Laugh Factory, you got to pull up.
Are you going to be here May 27th?
May 27th?
I think so, yeah, yeah.
In LA, at the Laugh Factory.
Mike's going to be there.
Everyone from Power's going to be there.
It's going to be lit as fuck.
You're doing stand-up?
I did stand-up last night for the first time.
Oh.
And it crushed.
And we, I just did it in a room with people who don't know me and know my co-host who's, like, doing it with me.
And we were roasting each other.
And they loved it.
And they didn't even know who either of us were.
So, I think it's going to do really well.
That's fire.
But 100 tickets only to the listeners of the podcast.
No one else.
it's all my friends everyone i love and then there's going to be a hundred people from who
watch the podcast that are going to be there and show support so link in bio for those tickets
all right that's going to be lit but yeah pull up dude it's good you could you know we're having
we're having a good time so everyone's going to be there but yeah uh that's nuts do you remember
what your uh material was about about being a being a kid just like getting fucked up by your
parents like for their personal reasons and shit and like getting whoopings and shit but like
not for because you did bad because they fucking laid on the rent and all different type of shit
just like a little shit like kid shit like that did you like doing it if you do remember or no
yeah it was cool but it was just a lot of work like shit like i didn't realize comedians be
doing this shit for 20 years and just like nothing like nothing comes in i'm like hell
nah so i think comedy might be the long the thing that takes the longest yeah i know guys who are
doing the same jokes for six seven years still perfecting i'm like oh my god yeah like hell no
i can't you know what i'm saying so i was just like
fuck this shit
i'm gonna just go to social media bro and just do that so that's pretty much how it was like
you know and i just watched stand-up comedians i love kevin hart i think he's i'm out on my shit
after him you know what i'm saying like i am so i think he's really he's really successful with
that and just adapting to he's tuned in with the streamers he knows who the streamers are and that's
what i feel like it is once you like adapt and you can you can you can reach back down and be like
okay like let me see what the new shit is that's how you stay relevant that's how you stay get
longevity same thing with jerry yeah did you uh ever work with him or did you work with him
a normal job no i never got i never got a chance to because um yeah i never really did i think
youtube took off around like 17 16 yeah 17 17 17 so yeah it was kind of if you had to work a
regular job what would it be yeah that's actually a great question if you weren't doing this what
do you think you'd be doing i wanted to work at uh champs bro like a footlocker store because
they got all the hoes but i was like 16 15 they had all the hoes and shit like that but like
that's what i really wanted to do like work there so that's the only way i could do it
only memory i had of like wanting to work a job like have y'all worked the job before oh yeah
no mike you haven't you you've been acting since nah this was in a italian movie at eight
years old you've seen that clip i i i remember bring it up and i it came up and stuff like that
i seen it like you know so i was like damn like that crazy yeah it's a crazy cup yeah i did uh
i did the normal the catering the working at a restaurant i worked for uh customer service
for a dog food company trying to think of other that i did but it's funny because you you say that
the comedians of like six years they're working on i think i i was working at a restaurant
and catering for maybe two years when i first moved to la two and a half at most and it felt
like 10 years i couldn't imagine the six years doing that i'm like yeah i don't know it's
crazy how did y'all feel like the question both of y'all like because like you know i got some
like whatever like the feeling of getting a regular like a uh episode was just
like oh my mind blowing after just like no so when y'all got that because like did the show
up after you guys were on it or was it blown up straight from the jump but like my real question
is like how did that feel like just getting that call like yes and like what was like the switch
of like damn this is the hottest ever like when did y'all know like damn okay
mike i think you should start with that because mike was on the original power
way before me okay so mike i think you should answer that one first uh i would say like season
like the end of season two towards the beginning of like season three
is when like i realized like yo this is about is actually starting to go crazy because
the first season um i could walk around and just be chilling and then like towards the end of second
season damn near like every day they're like yo you look like people weren't certain about it but
they're like yo you look like tarik you look like tarik baba i used to be able to to deny it at that
point and then like once it was like season three and then um the show just got like huge as
they also um they also like made my role bigger in the storyline too like i started getting my own
storyline in the show at that time and then like people like were just 100 certain it was me every
time they see me like oh yeah youtube from power and i couldn't deny it at that point so that's
when i really realized it was like damn this show was actually like a like a hit show and then mental
yeah yeah feel me i see i would say season three so that was like what year is that like
that's like 2015 or 16 or something like that yeah that's like 2015 2016. so that's when i knew like
hitting and then like obviously the end of season three to going into season four and five that's
when like my role became like huge and that's when i started having to come and set a lot earlier
being on set a lot longer and like damn like i'm actually working on this show like for real for
real now so and then obviously the spin-offs came and that's when it was just like it was over with
yeah it was yeah i feel like for you mike it was so gradual which is kind of a gift
because it's scary to just the next day be like like i don't know do you know that show heated
really did you see the stuff about it it's like the gay hockey show but um those it it's a show
about two hockey players that are like playing professional hockey and they're gay but like
the show was like a crave canada show yeah so like no one cared about it and then
just the next day they're the biggest stars on the planet so like that's scary and i i feel
like michael got really lucky because it was like he was on power the show wasn't anything and then
season two it got popular but he still had a small role and then he got more
and more and then the spin-off happened like i i felt like it was kind of a blessing for you
michael do you feel that way or do you just you not really think about it i think i think it was
a blessing because like i was able to learn a lot like building up to you know where it ended up you
know what i'm saying like if i feel like if it was just to go from like obviously like a phenomenon
show from season one and then me having to you know become like basically the face of the show
after like two three years i kind of wouldn't have had like the same you know the same mindset that i
had when i when i had to like really step into it and really become like you know like like the
quarterback in those shoes yeah so i think yeah it's definitely a blessing like just learning
i had like five years five six years to learn and then after those five six years like it was
the spin-off so i was just like bet like let me just try to use whatever i learned from these
five years and just put on the spin-off yeah it's been a blessing yeah i joined a hit show
so i felt like it i was like you joined when it was already popular yeah i i got on power season 5.
you ever seen the show i'm not gonna lie i've never seen yeah but like but like bro the thing
with me bro like i got to like i can bro i get so much hate for what not watching shows that are like
me my this is my thing when it sees it already has like now michael's never watched anything
other than mukbangs like this guy's never seen anything but wait dude i i said things
i i like people hate me like bro you've never seen an episode of power like i've seen clips and stuff
anything this guy's only ever seen clips his baby's gonna be born he's like did you see he goes
nah but i saw clips of it it looked fire bro like we had a bunch of clippers clip the birth of my
baby and that went crazy though when there's multiple seasons of a show that i haven't watched
i just don't like to start from the beginning like like people hate because i've never seen an
episode of snowfall before yeah you know what i'm saying there's a little slow i will say but i'm
saying like you know it's like i don't know just like sin through other and everything like if
somebody told me yo like this get lit start at season three right now it gets me so angry
they're like oh wait till wait for the last episode you're like i gotta watch 38 hours
you know what i'm saying it aggravates me to no end so i'm like what the like i'm not
gonna just wait or anything like that but like i don't know like i feel like that was just
fine like i i gotta i gotta definitely watch and i gotta watch the power i gotta watch snowfall
but i can say this when when it was like a i do remember when i was younger like 2014 2015 or was
i don't know but it was like power and empire i was watching empire i chose empire because at one
point they were they were yeah yeah the empire just went to like it was like ass and
then i don't know what the happened but yeah yeah that's pretty much how that pretty much
has happened bro but i got i gotta tap in i gotta tell you i must say if you start watching power
it starts off od like it's no like it's no like rolling into like i think that's why i did
so well rip dude yeah the first act the first episode is straight action not even the first
episode the first 15 seconds really from the jump i will say like i didn't watch an episode of power
until after i did all my stuff on the original before the spin-off and i didn't know much because
i was just trying to make money to like what i was hopping on this show and then i did this movie i'm
just trying to survive like i was getting paid no money so i watched all six seasons after i was
done or five seasons because season six hadn't come out and i'm like i watched it in like a week
and a half i'm like this is fire i'm like i'm on this hell yeah sometimes you do something
and you're like you know you start watching the show yeah but power was like i mean it's
entertaining i think that's why it's so popular is because it's not slow yeah there's no slow moments
like every episode's a banger but also it's kind of hard now because now you're on season 10 or
whatever we did and people are like oh it's unrealistic and you're like okay well we're
like 10 yeah 10 years in like especially relate this to street
streaming you can't do something nuts for a stream and then all of a sudden go backwards and start
doing less you kind of have to like go bigger and bigger right that's why i feel also feel like
it's off track but i feel like that's why i feel like kai's kind of like been taking distance because
it's like yeah yo he's done everything in the world lebron james cut his air you had a
million subs like what you can't just come to desktop and just chill so it's like i feel that
aspect of just like you got to go bigger and bigger and better but uh yeah i definitely got
tuned into that that's yeah what is kai doing right now he's taking a break yeah i think
he's like taking a break like you know working on his clothes like i know just as much as everybody
else just like seeing things you know so it's like i feel like when he comes back that's
shit gonna be crazy yeah he's doing the dave chappelle he's just you know he did that like
after chappelle's show chappelle just disappeared and then came back but i think it's smart right
like actually this is a good question for you because as an actor sometimes and and michael too
like sometimes you don't want to be overexposed but you have a like if you have a podcast especially
the way the industry is going like um there's social media there's tiktok do you feel like
overexposed like but you hire people to clip stuff for you and make it exposed so like how
do you balance that or you just not care you're like i want to be seen as much as possible yeah
i don't well i don't hire clippers it just be clear but i i um i love yeah i don't care i love
to be overexposed like you know i love the good the bad you know what i'm saying just whatever but
um yeah certain things like that i remember back like just like i know the actors like the
mysterious mystique like you know what i'm saying but i feel like now it's like bro people don't
give a fuck about that shit no more at all like all that mysterious mystique is over with like
you know what i'm saying like you gotta show your person like it just it just depends what you want
out of it you know what i'm saying like depending what you want out of this like i don't care like
i'm an open book you can know anything about me like my dick is small it is what it is so i just
like we've all been there brother like i'm being honest like you know what i'm oh you're small too
dude it's average brother yeah my average average yeah but you're black it should be bigger but
michael's jamaican though so like probably 10 or some you know but that's so funny he got he got
he got head on stream the girl like really wasn't even moving her head no she wasn't that's what i'm
saying so it kind of you get you get you get just like you could just either that's why she's either
giving me head or just laying in my lap or something like that or fucking got something
in her teeth trying to get it out or something but that's fucking hilarious that's pretty much
yeah like you know i'm an open book i really don't care like i expose myself like anything
about me but i feel like that's where authenticity comes in it's like we we know this is what we're
like he don't care like he just really just he's just himself bro so i fuck with that i dude i love
that so much this was such a fucking awesome episode um yeah i'll have one more question
i have one more yeah keep going mike keep going like when like when did you start feeling like
when did you realize your dick was small
when did you like when did you start feeling like like a celebrity like when did you start
feeling like a like a like a star streamer like what like what was your first experience that like
you feel like oh shit i'm i'm like i'm him like low-key like man like what was your first
experience i bro you know and like i talked to dj about this i i never had that feeling of that
shit because like but i'd be like bro like bro i wish like i can't wait till i get there or whatever
that nigga would tell me bro like stop being fucking humble nigga you act like niggas don't
know you like niggas know you like i want like i think i ran on the stage on coachella like with
uh it was like a performance of controller or something like that like um with don toller
and i was scared he was gonna throw me off i was like drunk i was like i'm gonna just run up there
he's like you're not i just ran up there and that shit and he was like you know he like shouted me
out he's like shout out to shea i'm like what the fuck you know who i am so it's always just like a
thing like chris brown or just like anybody like i really never know i've seen i've seen um you can
in your chat you can you can type in usernames and your see who watches you and i think i like
i was just typing in people and stuff like that and i typed in drake's name it was like three
hours and 40 minutes i was like what the fuck really yeah like like i'm like
bro i don't know i'm always surprised bro but i feel like once you like you know once you like
get soaked up into it that's when it's just you get comfortable right and then that's also when
it it feels like it's not exciting anymore yeah exactly i've seen a lot of people lose their
sparkle yeah exactly because oh i'm this i'm supposed to get in i'm supposed to have this
whatever nah bro like you gotta grind i want to be the best you need my fame the best or if i'm
one of the best i don't know but i do have confidence in just knowing that i can be there
and i will be there right you know so i mean dude that's all it is i i'm
a huge believer in manifestation like if you think it's gonna happen it's gonna happen yeah
like that's just kind of like you gotta you gotta yeah your shit is gonna grow don't worry
it's manifest now i'm telling you now i appreciate you wait what's gonna grow
oh uh i was like are you talking are you talking about his dick or the streams now i'm i'm kind of
lost wait no fuck the fuck the subathons dude you gotta do a grow-a-thon brother let's fuck
nah i might i might give me a ddl though i'm not gonna lie they can do that i heard about it
i'd rather i'd rather get a big
dick than be taller so yeah i'm about to choose one it would be hell yeah what the fuck imagine
being tall with a little dick that's worse it's like when he's when you're small it's like okay
yeah we can kind of expect you know yeah but yeah i'm i'm being this bitch sweatpants no draws
real soon we got the shade in the building he's got a ddl on the way hopefully prize
can sponsor that um then it was probably the most raunchy fucking
was this the most raunchy fucking uh podcast no we've had some crazy ones i think i think we've
had some some we ain't had nobody to talk about getting a ddl though that's a first that's it
yeah that's definitely a first for sure uh mike you want to give us one listen man we got my
boy the shade frost the crew has it and you have it appreciate the crew has it and you had i feel
like we didn't even introduce him at the beginning we keep doing this where we want to start talking
to people and we don't introduce him and the fans are like we just chopped it up bro you know yeah
yeah it's just like we're just talking to people and we don't introduce him and the fans are like
it's real as i think this is probably my favorite podcast i've been on hell yeah fuck yeah fuck all
the other podcasts you've been on uh at the shade frost on instagram yeah yeah i had to shave frost
instagram kick twitch everything yeah hell yeah go follow my boy uh yeah we appreciate it guys
we love you thanks for pulling up and uh the crew has it and you have it baby
last one to the airport by breakfast
day one day one
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The speaker transitioned from acting to full-time streaming after earning early YouTube revenue from a brother-sister content series.
Early streaming experiences, including a 25-day subathon, helped build a strong audience and solidified their presence in the streaming community.
They gained significant credibility and authenticity by being transparent and unapologetically themselves, even during controversial moments.
Key influences like DDG emphasized resilience, authenticity, and investing in content over chasing fame or quick money.
The speaker has no plans to return to acting, focusing instead on streaming as a lifelong passion and creative outlet.
They frequently travel to immerse in different cultures, with memorable experiences like their trip to Jamaica.
Streaming platforms like Kick have become central to their growth due to better discoverability and content amplification.
The speaker values authenticity, humor, and real-life connections over polished performance, believing these traits build loyal, engaged audiences.
Summary:
The speaker shares a journey from early acting roles and struggles with auditions to a successful pivot into full-time streaming. Starting with a brother-sister YouTube channel that gained traction quickly, they built a loyal audience through authenticity and relatable content. A pivotal 25-day subathon solidified their presence, leading to recognition as one of the top Black streamers.
Influenced by figures like DDG, they emphasize resilience, authenticity, and long-term investment in content over short-term gains. Travel experiences, like their trip to Jamaica, highlight their dedication to cultural immersion. They now focus entirely on streaming, embracing platforms like Kick for better reach and discoverability, and prioritize real, unfiltered interactions with viewers.
The speaker rejects the myth of "cancellation," stating that criticism is often exaggerated or temporary. They view streaming as a deeply personal creative outlet, where humor, vulnerability, and genuine connections drive engagement. Despite early financial struggles, they’ve grown into a trusted figure known for authenticity, humor, and resilience.
Their future goals include expanding content depth and collaborating with popular streamers like Six Nine, while maintaining a commitment to real, human connections over scripted performance.
FAQs
I started streaming in 2024. I was inspired after building a YouTube channel with my sister, where the authentic brother-sister dynamic and consistent content helped it grow rapidly.
I’ve moved on from acting completely. While I’ve auditioned for roles like 'Beast Boy' in a DC show, I never got the part and now focus entirely on streaming and content creation.
My first major milestone was a 25-day subathon that helped me grow to 20,000 subscribers and reach the top 10 among Black streamers that month.
I don’t seek controversy and stay authentic. I believe people who genuinely hate on you don’t truly know you, and staying true to myself keeps my audience loyal.
I draw inspiration from scary movies, music by Drake and Lil Yachty, and watching other streamers. I also enjoy real-life experiences, like traveling to Jamaica, to bring authenticity to my streams.
Yes, I once got head on a stream when DDG accidentally connected his camera to mine. It caused an emotional reaction, and he received a warning—though it was an accident and not intentional.
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