Denny Hamlin Just Won Pocono Again, and He’s Got Thoughts

Oh, it went backwards. What are you doing, it's. I pulled the tailor, I pulled the tailor, I pulled the tailor. Some of the. You twist, I know, I'm sure. I'm here myself, I placks a coat it. I shut yourself in the lake, yeah. Oh, confetti. God, Jared. I can't get a haul up. You had one job, man. I mean, I asked you three times, are you ready? The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. I believe that I've been a competitive youth for 20 years. Opinions from tonight's podcast, strictly biased. You're going to hear it from my point of view. I'm a fighter, no you are not. This spoils a victory for Jared Allen. He's got better luck than Rick and Drake to win. I know, you do. Two trophies missing from your collection, a championship, and the most popular driver. Someone told me that their drinking game is when I say, for sure. Yeah, and I've already said it. What's up, guys? Welcome back, soon to the detrimental. That was action detrimental. That if it were a gun, it would definitely be detrimental. Polka, no, we got another visitor. Man, I love it when people make me bets and stuff. So, Trav gets a, for our third winner, Ro gets a Denny Bros sticker. So, my question is, the decal that, no, it's not going to mess the pain up. Are we sure? Yes, I'm sure. Okay. I'm sure. Why are you worried? You just sell the car to a Denny, bro. I mean, I'm worried because it's still my car. Like, I don't want to kill it. You could probably sell that thing for over MSRP right now. Can you put some win stickers too? I mean, I never seen someone so concerned over messing up their Kia. Listen, it's a nice vehicle. I like to keep it beautiful color. Yeah, and the sticker is going to match. Yeah, it's going to fit. Yeah, I just want to make sure that it doesn't ruin the car. So, I will, since I'm going to be gone, I'll be out in San Diego this weekend. Next week you want to come back for a car? Yeah. Oh, okay. I've got a sticker on my backpack just saying, we could go, we could go put this thing on. Do you have the long one? No, no. Yes, I've got the, like, the one that Reddit had. So, we're going to do it. Okay. All right. So, I can do it next week. We can share it and shoot it. We can do something with it. Okay. Pocano, another win for the 11. We're all in one right now. It was a good run. Why is it over? 'Cause it's over. You know, in the media, you were like, oh, it's keep this thing going. 'Cause I need a break. I've been grinding so hard over this last little sprint here like you win one. Aren't you want to go back to back? Aren't you want to win three in a row? Lot of bandwidth taking up. (laughs) Just, we're going to try really hard in San Diego. I'm actually optimistic about San Diego. New y'all are crazy. You think I'm crazy, which you should. But, yeah, I like the track. Super technical. Mark's based, narrow, can't make a whole lot of mistakes. It's going to be a sight. I'm really going to be interested to see like the truck series, very first practice. I think they're probably the first on the track. All three series is there, right? Yeah. That's good. So, yeah, there'll be something to be learned about just watching TV and kind of checking things out. Trucks will be on 12 o'clock on Fridays the first time. Okay. And we're on track Friday too, right? Yeah, five. Yeah, so looking forward to it. Yeah, we've been in the grind of the ovals for a little bit now. We're going to a couple of road courses out west in California. San Diego this week, Sonoma the next. Yeah, just awesome run that we've been on. We definitely won them in different ways and shapes and shapes and fashions. But, you know, I thought that this week, I don't, you know, I don't necessarily know how it looked on TV or how it felt to you guys. But, you know, I didn't think we were dominant. You felt dominant early on. Yeah, I thought we were where we were good. It was essentially the last 10 to 15 laps of a run. I thought the Hendrick cars, don't look now. The Hendrick cars were really fast for the first three quarters of a run. And I was really, I was fast for the last quarter. I think it kind of shows in lap times as well. I probably ran like the, I don't know, like, I don't even think I was in the top five of fastest laps of the race. If you look at Bozzie's tweet, the field actually year over year, I got slower. The field actually came to me this year as far as like the gap from first to fifth. Like, you know, he had me still rank first in speed. Year over year, but the fifth place, it, it had tightened up quite a bit year over year. So it's kind of how I felt, felt like it was. I thought we just, I thought we executed a great race. We qualified well. We executed a great race. And we made the strategy work because we had, you know, because of those restarts. And so that's kind of where it all, how it all came together. And so, so yeah, just a, you know, awesome for me personally. I, you know, I didn't, I didn't think three in a row really mattered until it actually happened. And what, what do you mean it didn't matter? It definitely matters. Like from a stats stamp, like, no one's got care. No one, a year or two from now, like, no one's going to care about three. Sure, sure. So I didn't think it was that significant other than, you know, in the media center, they, the media told me that you're the only person in the top 10 of wins. It's never had a three in a row. I'm like, wow, really, like, that's really hard to freaking do. All those drivers, yeah, three in a row at one point. That's what I mean. Now I get it back in, you know, the petty days and stuff. It was so different back then. And I can understand while that, but still, I guess maybe there's, you know, I guess have to, there's only half of them that really raced in the last 30 years. Is that right? Y'all going to pull up the list. You got to have this shit. Even now you're making, you're making some math, math problems. I'm not. I'm just trying to figure out I, I think it's obviously, I say it's hard to help, but Fredic did it earlier. We did it now. So I don't know what argument I'm making. Bell did it last year. Bell did it. Larson did it in 2021, didn't he? Yeah, here I mean, here's your top 10. Was it's petty, Parsons, Gordon, Allison, Wall Trip, Jimmy, Kale, Dale, you, Kyle? So like, only handful or, yeah, recent, um, so yeah, I mean, I, it's, I mean, it speaks, really, it speaks to how good those guys are that, you know, they're all of them got three in a row at one point. That's, that's crazy. Were you confident going in because it seemed like the squeaky word downplaying it to the Danny Bros? Um, I don't know. It was just a grind this week. I, you know, and maybe it's just I'm nitpicking the car here and there. You know, it's pretty good. I'd normally be pretty happy with this, but I need you to fix this. We fixed that now. Now you screwed up this and it's like, it just was, it just never stopped. And so I don't know, it just felt like a grind this week. And, um, and so I, I certainly wasn't overly confident. And then even in practice, I mean, I can tell you all that's not like we just came dialed the fuck in, you know, we were off in practice. I think I pitted after four laps of practice. I usually never try to do that. Um, but I just did the balance was just so far off. And so we worked on it. That's what you do. Your balance is off. You work on it. Um, and, um, so we, we, we got it better. And then I thought overnight, I thought we got, you know, we got it pretty close. We, you know, I told you overnight, uh, you asked for a rating pre after practice. Yeah. And I said 47 and a half. The reason I said 47 and a half is that the car had speed, even though it didn't have balance. So like, if we could get that last two and a half percent of balance, then I thought that, uh, you know, it was going to be really good. And obviously starting up front. And then overnight, I thought we, We did like a 48% job. So we had a 95 and a half percent car I thought this weekend, which that aligned. I thought that again, there was time, those racing, you know, it was hard as I could race and their cars definitely faster. That's just so surprising that you, I don't know, of your three wins here, that race felt like the most dominant of the three. It just never really felt like it was ever endowed, honestly. What? Yeah, but are you biased that you just think we're going to win? No, I think it's also because the previous two, you had to go to the back. And those were dominant in a different way. But like once you started coming to Larson midway through stage one, and you just stayed up front all day, aside from the start of the race, we did. We had to restart in the teens at one point. Right, but just by strategy, right, cars stay out, cars flip. But you never, you never got stuck there. Every restart after the first start of the race was really good. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I just think, I think the perception probably is that, you know, it's just so much faster everyone else. It's just that's not accurate. No, I don't think, I don't think that's the case. But I think you at Polkano, the way you race, the race, the way the team has to be managed a certain way that that race, it always comes to, there's a few things the race comes down to. First is qualifying, all right, first, you have to have a competent fast car like yet to have, you know, a car in that 45% range when you unload, right? You got to have that first. Then you need to qualify well. Then you need to have good strategy. And then you need to have good restarts. Those that that, you got all that, then you'll, you're going to win eight or nine times around that race track. But it's, um, but that's what, that's what it is. And if you have one of those things that is not right, it's, you're just, it's not, you're not going to be out front when it really matters. So would it be accurate to say that you won this race on Saturday in qualifying? It was helped. It definitely was helped by going out there and qualifying well, no doubt. I mean, it just makes your strategy so much easier because at this track, like if you're having a race from behind, it, it's so difficult to pass there that, you know, if you go and you qualify 25th, um, you're going to need to have a really fast car, if you have a really fast car, what are you doing, qualifying 25th? Then you're going to need to have caught, you're going to need to have cautions fall your way, you're going to have to have great restarts. And then you're going to have to pull some sort of strategy to get you up there. And then you will be at a tire disadvantage to guys like me who are started up front, work our own, you know, work the proper strategy based off of the race distance. And we're not trying to make up anything, right? We're just trying to keep stay up front. We're not trying to gain positions through strategy. We're just trying to maintain. So you're going to be at a tire disadvantage, um, because of the strategy, you have to pull because you didn't qualify well and other things. I thought the two moments for you were one at the end of stage two, you're able to get points and then more cars pitted than Gale had predicted. So I think you came out to start the final stage like 6th and then also that restart when you're on 13th. Right. It was ahead of you, I believe. Ellie, I think might have been up there and you read that restart was the perfect restart for you. Well, it was the same as what it was in Texas. The difference in this race in Texas with like me and Chase Elliott is that chase Ellie got the best of me at the restarts. He was me here at Texas. He went forward on the restarts. I went nowhere. And it was the same way. Chase really didn't go anywhere. This race and so it just kind of, that's what it comes down to is these little moments here and there. But the last five Poceno races, first, first, right, first, second, second, first. I mean, that's, that's dominant. It is, but they were done in different ways. Some of those were really dominant. Some of those I thought we nailed the strategy did a great, I think one time we went really long motor through the field, late in the race, very similar to what Reddick did at the end of the race. So they've been done differently. What's not been done differently is my driving style running around the racetrack. That is what remain consistent at and it just makes speed there. Do you feel like you have an advantage of everybody else when it comes to this track? Is it an unfair advantage? No. Okay. I mean, people talk today like advantages are like unfair. Well, it's because your car's cheated up. Idiots. Well, by the way, we're running the same car for the last few years. The end of the manufacturers have changed their cars. They have their latest and greatest car that they, that they wanted to change over the last 24 months. No, the conditions are different, but we're the same speed we were last year. We ran our lap time, our average lap time was within like a couple of hundreds, actually slower, a little bit slower this year. So I don't know, man. Yeah, the Toyota is in general or you really got to click in right now, but it ain't unfair. We started this race at the same time. Everyone had the same opportunity and this is a product of a lot of hard work from a lot of people to get to this point. This is what we strive for. Every manufacturer wants to go out there and figure out the best way to optimize their cars and engines and all the stuff, but Toyota right now has, it's got it figured out better than the rest of them and it ain't because of an unfair advantage. It's a fair advantage that was earned through hard work. No, I just meant my question about advantages is from the standpoint of winning eight to nine of these Eagles here. It's maybe, I think that there are others that know how to get around Pocono really well. But I don't know, I just have, every time I go there, when I go in to turn one for the very first time, I know exactly what I need to feel out of the car. I know exactly when I need to pick up the throttle, it's just all the things, right? It's just, so is an advantage, maybe. 64 wins now, Travis, we're going for 70. I know. We might hit 70 this year, like the, like, oh, I'm not going to get to Dale like, stop it. We get to, it's sixty four, nobody cares. One year after retirement, nobody will care. So you got 60 or 75, no one cares. 70 sounds pretty cool. I hear you. I hear you. And you got next year. With the Android 250 coming up, did you know that our partners at Bob's Discount Furniture are celebrating America's 250th? With the furniture America has been waiting for for 250 years. That's right. Whether you're upgrading the living room, dining room, bedroom or all the above, Bob's has styles for every room at prices that make sense. You can refresh your whole home and still stay on budget. And listen, if you're like us, race day comfort matters, I know it matters to me. And Bob's has reclining sofas loaded with features, including their signature Bob Opedic cushions. Basically everything you need for a full day of racing without ever leaving your seat. The best part, no gimmicks and no inflated markups, just Bob's everyday low prices, plus they ship fast so you can get your setup ready before the next race weekend. So before we settle in to watch me in the number 11 Bob's Discount Furniture tour to this weekend in the Android 250, stop by Bob's Discount Furniture store or shop online at mybobbs.com. Bob's Discount Furniture celebrating the Android 250 and the America's 250th with the unbelievable values that will keep both you and your wallet comfortable. I don't know what else I want to talk about in this race. It was, um, did you think at any point where you, I mean, we have a lot to say. Talk about in this race. I don't know what I'm talking about. At any point were you worried about, uh, bell making it, or did you really, not really, not really? Um, you know, I've been in those situations before, not necessarily poking open other tracks where, I mean, you're required to save so much, uh, when they initially told me the gap to him, um, I don't know when it was, it was maybe 13. seconds ahead, 10 seconds ahead. There was about that many laps to go, and I knew that in order to save lots of fuel at that place, you're gonna have to really slow your pace up a lot. So I really wasn't too concerned with Bill. - What about the cars behind you, Byron and Reddick? - A little bit with Byron. He made a really good charge there in stage three, was flat out faster than we were. I was running, you heard the team on the radio telling me to go as far as I could, but. Yeah, I mean, I thought that I was pushing the car and as much as what I felt comfortable pushing it, and yeah, he still was able to gain on us a couple of tents of lap. Once he got within about 10 car lengths or so, it seemed like all the hinder cars in general fell off the last quarter of every run. It wasn't just a Byron thing, it wasn't just a Larsen thing at the very first stage. I noticed it with Elliot when we were racing for the lead. Same thing, they were really fast. I think they've really gotten better on all out speed. It sounds like if you kind of pick apart their interviews a little bit, that they kind of are just going back to basics when it comes to set up. So, I don't think there's any magic wand that we figured out this trick thing or another. It sounds like a set up thing from those guys, where they all said that man, our cars just drove more comfortably this week. And so it seems like they're getting back to basics and it's certainly netting their drivers liking the where their cars were driving. And it showed in speed this week. Yeah, Larsen said that they're getting closer and he was happy with it, post-race. Yeah, and he mentioned that Puccino has been a track where they really have struggled with their balance and but he felt pretty happy with it. So does Hendrick, they got this new body, right? That they haven't quite figured out yet but are getting closer on. Do they have a higher ceiling than Toyota? If they can get there, do we know that? I don't know, we don't know what everyone's optimum performance is. It's an infinite number or a thing. It's a thing we constantly trace. It's as a driver, I'm always, people ask all the time, you ever get bored? No, I am trying to figure out how to make this corner faster than I just made the previous corner. All the while, the track is changing. Rubber laying being down is different. There's traffic in front of me. There's traffic behind me. All these moving elements. Every straightway I'm thinking about what are the elements and how am I going to approach this corner to get around the fastest and most optimum way. And so when I make that corner, right? I got another 30 seconds till I get back to that corner. When now I'm processing, let's just say I'm going down the back straight away, back into turn three again. I'm thinking, how did I approach it last time? What could I do to hit my mark better? Is there a different line I should choose? Have I maxed out what this line is capable of? Should I move to another line to see if there's more speed there? All right, let's go to that other line. We go to the other line. It's showing, it's about a tenth off, but you know what, I didn't hit that corner that great. Let me try that again. You know what I mean? It just constantly had to do that every straightaway. This past, this last weekend, you're doing that every straightaway. Do you know, you know in the car that you don't need the proper lap time? Do you have the lap time in the car? Yeah. And so I can see it. I don't need them to read them to me. So I can see them. And I typically now at a track like Pocano, where you got three corners like that, I usually can identify. And a lot of it is experience. I can identify, let's just say my lap time is a 53 second flat. I'll know which corners I've got room to improve on and which corners that, you know what, I need to figure out a different approach to this corner. And then I'll look at the lap times and I'll say 53, 20, and be like, yeah, you know what? But I hit that corner better. I just didn't put the other two together. Yeah. And once I do that, then it's gonna be a 5290, right? So it's lots and lots goes into this. Are there more combinations at Pocano because of the three corners like at Charlotte, right? Like you, oh, I've just ran a really good turn one. I'll just do that next time. And then turn two maybe okay. But at Pocano, like you could run a really good one, a really good two and really bad three. And it negates everything you accomplished in one and two. Which is why qualifying at Pocano is like, you have to put the three together. Um, I think they asked Tyler Reddick afterwards who was like, you know, ah, man, it just, you're in group two. He's like, yeah, I just didn't run a good lap. I didn't make me drive into the corner and get loose and miss my mark, you know what I mean? So is it harder to run one good lap at Pocano because of these factors and additional corners? It's really hard because you know one bobble. The straightaways are so long you pay that penalty all the way down the straightaway where on a, like it, you know, a short track or whatever. Yeah, you go into another corner in five seconds. You don't go into another corner for 15 seconds at Pocano. So you're just, when you get that bad run through the corner and you have a bobble, if you watch Ross Chastain's turn three and qualifying gets a little loose. He has to catch it. Oh man, it just kills him all the way down the straightaway. And you practice an hour before you qualify. So are you dialing in a line that you're going to run in your qualifying lap in practice or are you kind of have to guess because the track changes? Like I, every time I looked over at you on Saturday, you're looking up at the sky. I'm like, what, what is he looking at? But you're looking at the cloud cover, the sun. Right. And how that affects, it affects track temperature and it affects how deep I drive into the corner. I guess you, you know, you got it right because. Well, I, it was, they got the balance. They got the balance right. That was, that was the key there. We, we fired off in practice. And you know, we, even though we were P2 overall, the balance was off. If we would have qualified that balance, it would have been not good. But, you know, yeah, we were at a, you know, if you, if you look at the, from a track temp perspective, I mean, the last 12 cars of qualifying were at a massive disadvantage versus the cars that went in the middle of qualifying early to mid. They had a far better racetrack to qualify on. Oh, so you're saying the metric actually hurt you this week because you had to qualify later in the, exactly. I mean, do you all want to dig it? You don't want me to go there because I'm kind of ran, right? Yeah, but I have quite, I have like legitimate questions about it. I just see the people up. Jared, what are we talking about? So I am, I'm not entirely sure what we're talking about, but qualified up his, his Twitter this morning to respond to a few tweets about people saying that they don't like the qualifying metric that the qualifying metric is outdated and that we need to switch it. And then maybe it should just be a random draw, right, right? Okay, let's, let's be factual first. The facts are, if you were early in qualifying, most weeks, most weeks, it is a disadvantage to be, let's call it in the first, certainly the first 10 cars. Now, there's some weeks where the tracks, track will continue to get better as the session goes on. You know, the session's nearly an hour long. So, and when we qualify at, you know, 435 o'clock at a given racetrack, and it ends at 630, of course, it's going to cool down and the track's going to get cleaner. And so why is it, why is it not good to go out early? There's the main reason is the rubber on the racetrack. So we just came off the racetrack. So group B, the second group had just gone out there, been practicing for, do we qualify, practice for 20 or 25 minutes, 25, I think, whatever it is. So we're out there and we're running race runs, right? So we're more than likely when that session ends, we had just completed a long run. So that rubber, like you see it dover on the racetrack, it's really, really black, that is on the racetrack. It's just invisible to the TV. You can't really see it when it's on, when it's on asphalt, not as much. So what happens is those first few cars when they go out there on their new tires, they're picking up. So the rubber that is being, that has laid from that practice session on the racetrack, it is sitting there. And those tires, when they start to get a little bit of heat in them, will start to pick up the race rubber from practice. And so it takes about 10 cars. I mean, that's a, that's a conservative number. But I think it's about 10 cars, to at that point. the racetracks is as clean as it's gonna get. It's not, you know, it might get faster because of temp, but it's not gonna get faster because of the rubber on the racetrack. So what's going on is you got that disadvantage of you gotta go, you gotta, you gotta go out early. Well, why do you have to go out early? - Your car now that's cleaning off the track and cleaning off the racetrack, that's correct. So we're never gonna go back to group qualifying. Like that's, that people in each other's way, no, that will never happen. So you can forget that. - So someone has to go first. Someone has to go first. So as do we wanna make it, should it be random? Is that sports? Is that, should we just see the NCAA tournament randomly or should we do it to where the best teams play, the worst teams and the playoffs is the same way. You have seating for a reason. So randomness is not good for sports because I try to give the example is that, well, what if someone, Brad Kysowski's on the bubble, we're going to dover as the regular season finale. You think it's fair for Brad Kysowski to draw the number 36 pill and he, or the number one pill and he has to go out first. No, it should be, he had ample time throughout the season to accumulate points wherever he is in points. That's 30% of the metric. And then it's 50% of where you are, or it's 70% of where you finish last week. So I think what Kelly and Toby are saying is that, oh, you just, you finish bad one week and you have to race the next week with your arm type on your back. And I, I just, I don't, I don't get that because you should be able to overcome it. Like you never should get stuck in group one. You work your way out, just that, you know, if you get stuck in group a week after week after week, it's because you're not high enough in points. That's a, that's a big sample size. It's because you've got bad finishes week after week after week. It's, that's, you know, maybe you have bad luck one week but it's, maybe you have it two weeks in a row. But it's like, we're in week 15 right now. If you're 25th in points and ain't cause of bad luck. - Yep. - It's because you're just not good enough and you gotta get better. And my argument is that the track from group a to group b, there's 25 minutes between the two. The race is three and a half hours long. What do you think changes more? The track at the beginning of the race and the end of the race are group a to group b in practice. Like you gotta be versatile, man. You gotta stop making excuses about, well, we didn't get the same track. And come on, man. We're in professional sports. Like you gotta be able to adapt a little bit better. Yes, you might not be P1 on the charts because maybe group b is faster this week. But the track is, it's just, I've been in group a, I deem the information just as useful as I do when I run in group b. I'm gonna be in group b more than likely it's no more. Like, it's different 'cause it's group qualifying there but it's, I think it's just more people wanting handouts and excuses, people making excuses of their performance and they, we just can't get out of this. I just don't believe that. I believe that if you're stuck there, it's because you're a bottom 18 team week in week out and you finish bottom 18 the previous week. That's just, and so someone has to go first. Are you gonna penalize the guys that are going out there and tops in the points and tops in the wins and let them draw the number one pill? Like, that's just unlucky. Brad keselowski, if he draws the number one pill for the final regular season race and he's on the bubble by zero, that's (beep) no, there should be some sort of way to determine the qualifying order and it's determined by the sample size. Now, could you argue, where you're at in points way just as evenly as you're finished last week? Sure, let's do that, that's fine, but you can't randomness is not sports. You know, do you know how much handouts we've given in the sports through lucky dogs? I mean, up until this year, playoffs, resets, all the crap, wave arounds, lucky dogs, double file restarts, overtime finished. All of it is to help the people that are behind. They used to just draw the green flag and let that (beep) go all the way to the checkered and people will win by laps and laps and laps. Come on, man, you got to get better. Do any active drivers-- That's my rant on that. Do any active drivers support changing it? 'Cause I feel like it's a lot of people like media or fans, but are there any active drivers who are like, yes, this is unfair? I would think you would find a few that certainly would deem that it's unfair. I'm not disputing that going out in the top 10 is a disadvantage, I just laid the facts out. It is a disadvantage. But how did you get there? It's my question. Right? - Yeah. - I'm with you. Like, if this was for-- - How did you get there? If you're in the top 10 of going out, you were really (beep) point and you had a really (beep) finish last week. - I mean, Bubba's a good example of this, right? Had an abysmal may. I don't remember where he went out to qualify at Michigan, but it had to not been good. And then finished well at Michigan, went out two spots ahead of you and qualifying here at Pocano, crashed on his qualifying lap, finished outside the top 20. Now he's probably gonna have a poor qualifying starts last year, but he had a poor one dug out of it, qualifying in the back with you this weekend and then obviously what happened happened. But you can dig out of it. - There's, right. It's not like he's stuck in Group A forever. When you had the bad finish, if you have a bad finish, you can pretty much count on you're gonna be in Group A. But that doesn't dictate your bad finish of that week. And I think that that's what the race teams are, some teams are saying is that, oh, we finished bad this week because we were in Group A in practice. Like, I don't believe that. I think that is, no. You have enough time in the race to work your way to the front. If you're good enough, if your team is good enough, you have enough time to work yourself into a good finish to get yourself out of that group. But if you're not good enough, then you're just looking for any help you can get. - Hey everybody, it's Neil Jr., guess what, we are coming to San Diego. We got two live shows for you. Friday the 19th, there's Dirty Mo Live, presented by the US Navy. We will be on the NASCAR experience stage at 10.45 local time. Ryan Blaney will be the headliner. So that should be a lot of fun. They don't Saturday the 20th, we're doing a live broadcast of the Delgent or Download, presented by Arby's and the US Navy. 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Check them out on shop.dirtymomedia.com. - Let's talk about a guy and an incident during this race who, again, I believe was the guy who's been in Group A for majority of the season, but lately here has been running really well in that Zane Smith. - Yep. - Yeah, I was racing Zane and, man, he, when I heard him get back into the gas off the turn two, I immediately started looking left 'cause I was like, oh, man, he's gonna have to come up the racetrack as much throttle he's put in the car. I'm, you know, he just tried everything he could to stay off of his right there and end up wrecking himself. But yeah, it was, I mean, even if he ran into the side of me and said, oh, well, he's still gonna end up on the inside wall because he's gonna ricochet off my door. So he just put himself in a bad spot there. And that was a bummer for him. Such as youth. - I think he understands the importance of the restarts, but at that time, he was somewhat up front already, right? And so maybe a little bit. I mean, he's typically one of the more aggressive guys on restarts, high risk, high reward type of driver on restarts. - Did it all stem from that move to go three wide? He had that run coming down the straightaway there, went three wide to the inside of you. Did this all stem from that? Did it start there? - Yeah, I think I was the inside of Blaney. And when two cars run side by side of Pocono, it just creates a big hole for that third car that's approaching. And Zane's thinking at that point, I'm just gonna get two for one here. It's hard enough to pass. I can go grab two right here, but it's a move that gets made commonly. It just need to make it work. - Backtracking a little bit here, Travis has got it on the sheet that when you did pass, Larson, Casey Mears was a part of the situation. What did you see there? - Yeah, Kyle just guessed wrong on where Casey was going to be. You know, that's part of the cat and mouse game that you have when you have two liters battling in your approaching lap cars is the leaders constantly trying to guess where the car in front is going to go before he gets there. And I think that what he had probably saw was that the 62 was running low on the previous couple corners. And then when we got to him, Casey was probably trying to do the right thing and give Larson the bottom because Larson was running the bottom. So he moved up high to, I'm giving Casey's benefit out here, moved up high to give Larson his lane, but Larson probably more than likely thought, well, he had been running low, so I need to go around him on the high side here. So they both were thinking the same thing at the same time. He got caught in Casey's wake and then that let me get by. - Yeah, lap traffic. - Yeah, I mean, it's a big factor here at Pokemon. It takes a long time to get to it, but if you have a long-grain flag run, it's a part of it. - We had another big wreck in stage two, did you see this? - Well, stage one, shout out to art. - Stage one. - Yeah, oh, I'm sorry, you're right. Sorry. - Stage two. - I won stage one. - Yeah, I thought you were just about to shout out yourself or it wouldn't. - No, I was not, I was not. - Stage one, shout out me. - No. - I was gonna give a stage two shout out. - Okay, stage two shout out, go ahead. - To our favorite dishwasher, Todd Gillan. - We don't have this post-moloon show on the show the way. Do we want to add that? - Shout out to his wife as well, who has to put up with him listening. - Yeah, every Monday evening. - Thank you. - Did I earn their, let me thank you, but. - Yeah, man. - Well, you know, we appreciate it. - Yeah. - But, stage win for Todd Gillan, it's great, right? I know. - Plus, plus, plus. - So what were you saying about stage two? - The wreck. - This is the Austin Hill one. - Yeah. - This was the Austin Hill, Josh Barry and SVG. - It was, I mean, Austin Hill just came up too high. I don't know how else to, so. - I think SVG and Josh Barry were playing grab ass with each other. If you look, if you rewind the tape a few laps, like these guys were, somebody put somebody in a bad spot. Next thing you know, the other one's run the other guy up high. And then Austin Hill was like, all right, well, I'm just gonna go low and pass the both of y'all. I think what Austin probably thought is that their momentum had slowed so much that he was gonna be able to clear on the exit. But he wasn't, he wasn't clear. And if you listen to Derek at spotter, he never called him clear. But slight miscalculation on Austin's part and certainly watered up some there. Joey Logano got in it. Bubba. Bubba was in it. Noah Gregson was in it. - Brad thought Bubba did something, but Brad, I don't got the worst end of it, right? - Yeah. - But watch the video, I didn't like. - I didn't see the whole Brad Bubba. - Brad said that Bubba got into Logano, but watching it, I don't see it. - I don't have to, I'm gonna have to look at it. But yeah, I didn't see that. All I saw was the tail end of the thing. Bubba spinning in the tail end and I think somebody like hit the left side of his car, but it didn't sound like there was any damage from it. But anyway. - Yeah. - A nice save by Bubba, I think. - I don't know anything about driving. - Yeah, I didn't think he hit anything major, but yeah, it's just a squeeze play by Austin Hill. Squeeze SVG, up it in a berry. - Yeah, that's, that's broken up for you. - The next thing we have here on the sheet is when you came over the radio and said something feels much. Something feels funny. Your mom immediately called bulls**t in this in the bus, by the way. - What do you mean? You came over the radio, it would've been in stage two, right? Or was it in stage three? - I think it was stage two. And you said, be ready something, it was right before a green flag, pit stop. - Okay. - Be ready something feels off. - Yep, I remember. - And then all of a sudden you like set a fast lap or something and your mom goes, they didn't even ask him what feels off. She's like, there's nothing wrong. - So I think what it was is the sealer that was coming up in the racetrack and so I hit a clump of that. And he said that when they pulled the tires off, there was like a huge chunk of rubber inside the left rear wheel. So that makes the tire off balance, which makes it have less grip because it felt like to me that I was looser. And so I just, yeah, it just jarged me there for a minute. - Your mom knew it wasn't a big deal. She said they didn't even diagnose the issue here. - She just ignored me. - Yeah, just ignored him. - She thought it was part of the strategy. You know, like maybe you can tell the other drivers then he's got an issue here. - Right. - You guys should pay her something. What else here, Travis? - Well, stage three, right? So we got through stage two. One of our favorite listeners, Todd, won that. Stage three then just turned out to be like strategy. It was strategy. It's pretty much that's a standard polcano race. - Well, it really helped you was that restart. You're like, tell Brisco he's got to stay on me. - That shout out to Chase Brisco. No doubt, pushed me all the way into turn one. That was a key moment. Y'all want to know, I made a big mistake though. You couldn't see it on TV. I actually, I downshifted. Like, I'm on the front. I'm on the front. So I was running restarts. I'd go in and turn one and keep it in fourth gear all the way around the corner. I just, my brain said, oh, I'm going in and turn one. Downshift. I went from fourth to third. You couldn't see it on TV because I still cleared John Hunter. But I downshifted this thing, like in the rev limiter because I went to the wrong gear. - Could you blow the car up that way? - Yeah. - And that's why I thought. Yeah, it's not like the old days that they got a lot more protections now, but the valve springs certainly took a beating. - Remember that race in Vegas where you had a kick ass car and then downshifted and blew the whole thing up? - Oh, that was one of the fastest cars I'd ever had. It was the first next gen Vegas race. And yes, I just was so used from going second to third in a H pattern and the first year in the next year and you got to keep pulling it back if you want to shift. So I went, and boom, boom, boom. I mean, it just exploded the car. - Dang, so we were this close to the King's Hawaiian curse continuing. - Yes. Damn, it's over now. - It's over now. - It's over now. - Once you win. - Once. - Yeah, it's curses me. - When do we have bobs on an oval? - I don't know. - What do we got the next few weeks? We got Yahoo and bobs next week. Yahoo, Sonoma. - So bobs the San Diego? - Yeah. - Do we have bobs for Richmond? That's the next curse we got to. - If we do, let's bring, have them bring some furniture over to the campsite. - Oh yeah. - Definitely, that's a good idea. - I don't know. I'm gonna give them a good run this weekend. San Diego, I just, I don't know. I feel good about San Diego. - Everyone's up in the year about this weekend. - Before we move to San Diego, what tastes better? A beer or a jello shot? - The jello shot was pretty money. I didn't think about it until after I was like, y'all didn't poison this, did you? - I had people text them to me immediately. What is he doing? - Yeah, not, I was, I was just in the moment. Was it round vodka, what were we working with? - I don't know, it tasted like vodka, but it didn't have much in it. It didn't have, the beer, I'm starting to like the post-race beer. It's not bad. Like, I'm not a beer tasting. - You're not a beer guy, period. - I'm not, I'm not a drinker period, but I just feel as though beer, I've just never acquired a taste for it, but it's starting to taste pretty damn good after these races. - What kind of beer they got in there? - I don't know. - We're not at that level yet, Reeve Day. - No, I wouldn't have a clue. So, anyway, stage three, it kind of went as planned. We got the good restart. Once we were able to control, I tried to run as fast as I could. I didn't actually have that big of a lead when the pit stops started. 45 chose a good long. That was a great strategy for him. And we were just kind of hanging on there at the end. We were able to hold off to 24 and the others, but yeah, it's just the long runs really helped me no doubt this weekend. That was a big benefit at the end of the race as well when the 24 was coming on strong. - What would we make of legacy? - Yeah, definitely you can't deny over the last few weeks that they've got a lot better with their speed, with their cars. And I think this is to be predicted. They've been on their own island for a while with Toyota, just kind of doing their own thing. They did buy into some of the services that JGR provides, but that hadn't shown a ton of fruit either. And so I think there's probably a combination of things going on. I think that generally they're just getting better as an organization. They haven't been Toyota that long. And they're now getting back to a lot of these racetracks for the second and third time and fourth time. And you just start building a notebook. And so I certainly think that they're seeing the fruits of a lot of hard work. And I know they've changed so much personnel around that place over the last few years and whatnot. So it's good to see them running well. And those guys up the front. - Yeah, and there's been some upper management competition moves recently, right? So how much of that plays a role? - Yeah, I don't know. I'm not in the walls, so it's really hard for me to say. But they're not involved in your guys. They're not involved in any meetings that you're in. It's more just information, share. - Right. Yeah, I mean, they were certainly not pretenders this last weekend. Eric Jones does not race this way. - No, they were legit speed. And it seems like the really the long run is where Eric Jones seems to be really, really quick. - Is he in the top 16 now? Should we just take a look at these points standoffs? Yeah, Eric Jones, 15th. Tied with Austin Cindrick on the cut line. - What's your deal, man? You've been slightly running a brand new notepad and I just forgot to grab one. - All right, well, after Sonoma. - All right. It's like Brad's outside. Okay, you did have two, you know, all three cars in. Now they only got one in. - Brad moved down to 17th. He's four points out behind Austin Cindrick. - So what's making it tough to, unlike like the Leganos and like Chastain, like how far is Chastain out? I keep thinking he's, he's at 294. He's about 60 points out. I mean, that's enough time. I don't know why I'm still a believer that the one car is gonna get good enough to make it happen. - Okay, but here they have weeks where, man, it's just like Michigan, holy moly. - I mean, this is a team that's really struggling in qualifying. - Every week, trackouts is posted in their beautiful qualifying graphic. It's P29, P301, P301, P301, P301. - And I see that like my algorithm will feed me that as well. - Yeah. - And it's like, it's like they were, it's like following Stuart Haas in their last few years, right? The fans are all up in their mentions as soon as they post that graphic. - Yes, that's why you're seeing it. - Here's the tough part for these guys that are outside like, who do you knock out? - Well, that's art. So my point, I was trying to get into, was that Eric Jones is now a new player in the bubble, right? So like, I don't know that those guys were planning on Eric Jones making a fun. And so now he's gotten in there and can they keep this going? That could displace somebody else. And so, I don't know, man. SVG can really cement himself as a contender here in these next two weeks. Because he's not far from the bubble, but you know, we're going to two road courses. - What is he, is he 10 above right now? - No, he's six above. - All right, let's see. SVG post Sonoma will be X above the cut line. - I think I have my guess. - I'm gonna say, are we doing a number or is like a greater than or less than situation? - What is he gonna be to the bubble? - He's six right now. - Greater than this, or you just want me to tell you a number. - Greater than what the bubble is. - I think he's at least 35 points up. - Oh, more. - Way more. - Way more? - So it's 72. - You get 55 for just winning the race now. The wins. - Yeah, I guess. - Yeah. My, my, my, my, - I don't think this is, I know I'm crazy on D. - I'm not, I'm crazy. - Maybe I'm crazy. - I think he's gonna be 68 ahead. - I said 72, so, then clearly I'm crazy. - 68, you really thought about this. - Well, I mean, like on the spot, it's not like I slept on it last night. (laughing) - Just why not pick a round number? - So then can he hang on from there? - He can hang on from there. - Well, he's gonna have a good metric. - Yeah. - He's gonna get out later in qualifying. - It's made then. - The season's made. - You got two super speedways also. - So that. - Oh, that's a, that's a fact. He should be fine. I think he's gonna be okay then. If he can get, if he can get to that number with nine or eight to go. I mean, you're not gonna feel comfortable, but it's, you know, I think he's got decent enough overall performance. But man, he's also getting into a lot of wrecks here lately, or in incidences that he doesn't need to. - Yeah, I think it's gonna be key on whether or not any of these bubble guys can stay consistent. I feel like that's just what we're seeing right now, is it? Anyone around the body can stay consistent. - Nope. - Yeah, you look at it, he finished 31st yesterday, 30th before last week and the previous was 5/11/19. Like, he just got to avoid those 30th places. But man, this new point system is, it's great. Heads and shoulders better than what it was last year. - Hey everybody, it's Dylan Hart Jr. and there is no better way to support Denny Hamlin than wearing actions detrimental gear at the racetrack. You can also flip him the bird, or head on over to shop.dirtymomedia.com to see what we have. Let's talk about the top. - 19 back. - What do you need to be? - There's a good run. - What do you need to be leaving Sonoma to have a shot? - Ooh. - With two super speedways. Which, y'all know the number one point score on super speedways is, right? - Tyler. - Retic. - Yeah. - To feel like I can make a run. I don't only got a few tracks to do it. The other is, you know, we got the coin flips of the, I'm so tainted by super speedways. - You'll have Chicago, you'll have Northwok Sparrow, you'll have ND, Iowa, Richmond, New Hampshire, your other one. - He's better than me at Iowa, or has been. And he tested there. I don't know. We're gonna have to keep him close. 50. You think he could get 50 away from you in these next three weeks? - Yeah. Yeah. Now the only, what yours? - Here's the only thing. - Here's the only thing for him to hold on, hold on. Typically on row courses, the points are spread out a little bit more. So you don't usually have massive point days and a good finish. - Right. - 'Cause it's so hard. - Right. - So I don't know. I think I need to be 50 to feel like I, maybe then can go win one or two more before the playoffs. You get that 50 back through the bonuses [BLANK_AUDIO] - Yeah, it's still gonna be really hard, yo. I'm telling you, this is a, you're not gonna just finish first every week of Wednesday. Just like, this is not real life for him. - I mean, what's your outlook for Redicat at San Diego? - My expectations is top five, top five, top five. - You think? - Yeah, yeah. - I think he's one of the top three or four roadcourse racers. - I don't think that's disputed, is it? - But how much of a wild card do you think San Diego is going to be in general? - Not when you're up front and ain't no wild card. Back there where I'm gonna be running. (beep) - Wild card. - Where's the stack up guy? - I mean, you got a poll on a street course though. - I got three polls in a row on roadcourses a few years ago. - Right. - So what are we talking about? - Maybe we'll turn back to clock this week. I listen, I know, listen, for my fans, I know it seems like I'm giving up one. I'm not, but I just, at this point in my career, I'm telling you, my bandwidth is better spent. Focusing on tracks that we have a great shot to win at and going ahead and winning at 'em, using that resource and that time to win at 'em versus going to a road course and working my guts out to joke, get five positions better. The math doesn't math that way. I just, it's. - We support it. - I only have so much capacity and I just, I don't have the capacity to work on my road course game at this point in my career, nor do I want to. So I'm just gonna go get my good finishes, like I hope to go get. We just, the Denny Rose can take a couple weeks off. Just, you know, take it easy. We got a good gap to third now. It's not like, you know what I mean? Like, everyone just relax. We got no, not much to gain, not much to lose. We're okay. We just, we need this little summer stretch to take a breath, reset, focus on the net, focus on the run to the playoffs after that. Take two weeks off, then we go in Chicago where you tested and are back off and running again. - Witt Smith, 518 wants to know what's a win, what's the goal for the road courses? - Top 15s. - Top 15s. - I think that, you know, that's good enough damage control for me. No, I'm not expecting to go out there around 30th. Like, that's unacceptable. But yeah, I mean, I'm gonna leave those tracks thinking, I mean, where have I been in the road courses this year? 10th and 15th. So like, okay. It's just, it's not our standard of expecting to go to the track and win. - I think, I think of 10th, 15th place finish is we're gonna put you in a great spot heading into Atlanta in the playoffs. That's my hunch. - But then we're gonna have to get lucky, right? Is that, don't get caught up in the wreck. - Not everyone's got to get lucky. - Everyone, you're right. - But it's not like you're starting from scratch. It's not like, well, who gets lucky or unlucky? You are a retic. It's, no, no, well, if you're behind, you have to get lucky and he has to get unlucky. So it's not, you know, it's not totally straight off. - Yeah, unless you win. - When you're behind. - Unless you win, you're gonna be, usually by a spotter, too. So it really doesn't get you much. You have to win to get the true, like, win. - I just don't think if you're Rambo in the 45 team, you don't want this 11 team to catch you. - They've gone quiet. - Just leave 'em alone. - There's no, they got no text the other day. - Leave 'em alone. - We're not, we're not, no. - What else we got here? - Oh, Michael. He's, that helped motivate you in the off season. - Yeah, I mean, you know, he just, he was more speaking to the general crowd. He wasn't necessarily speaking to me. He wasn't challenging me, but I saw it as a challenge. You know, for context for those don't know. He just, you know, he dressed the team in the off season. We talked, you know, as ownership, we wanted to talk to 2311 about what our expectations were, where we want to see our team, you know, how we expect our guys to work together, all those things. And yeah, it was just, you know, I think we were, I don't know the full context. I don't remember exactly how it got brought up. It might have been talking about like adversity. Like, you know, these races never go as planned. Like, so what now what? You know, what's your next best move, right? And so I forget the context, but he just brought up myself and it was, you know, it was right after all the bad stuff that had happened. And he's like, yeah, yeah, I'm interested to see what Denny does and how he were, you know, what does he do from, from last year? And you know, does he, does he respond? Or he does he fold up 10 or something like that? And, you know, so at that point, I'm just back in the room. Okay. It's, you know, sometimes things like that is what, all you need to fuel you. Yeah, but it's, you know, I, I've got a fuel inside of me anyway. I'm a competitor, right? I love to compete, no matter what it is. So it feels good. Yeah, it just still feels like there's just a little, the dial has been turned up a little bit this year. The last eight weeks have been pretty, pretty phenomenal. Yeah, it's been a, one of the best runs, certainly I've ever had. Do you think it's, you and Kale just finally, like is it? I like, I have a theory that I think you guys finally like, have like clicked. I don't know the things really have changed much. I, you know, we interact the same is we have last year to this year. I mean, this really goes back to the starting at the playoffs of last year. You know, if you look at the results there, like this started long ago. And do we need to talk about the earlier races in the season that we definitely should have won? So this is not, I don't think this is just a last month thing. It's been like this for, for a minute. So, and it's, in my mind, it started last year. Like that, that, just seemed like that Vegas race was the moment that unlocked something else. Yeah, I mean, you know your stats this year, they're, they're pretty, and pretty insane. Well, and they are, and how about this? I'm not leading the standings that the 45 team, it doesn't get, I know that media is talking about us right now. Rightfully so we've been winning. But do you know how ridiculous us, you know, a five or a seven average finishes in the cup series? Like, and how hard that is to do? I mean, the 45, it ain't like he's like running like sh*t and that's how we've caught on. It's just, he's still running in the top five to top 10 every single week, like every week when he didn't get wrecked. So, they're on just as a historical run as what we are. Yeah, and I thought going into this because like, okay, Reddit qualified 16th and maybe he's going to struggle to, to get up there and in the top five and f*cking more laps. He may make, he may have caught you. Yeah. Do you have any statement for the New York Knicks fans? To the fans? Well, they were coming after you on Twitter and wanted to know. Yeah, the fans can piss off. I'm happy for the team, I like the team. I like the guys on the team. Love the personalities, Brunson's. I don't know, is he an underdog? Yes, 'cause he's so short. Yeah. He's short, he's like six three, right? Yeah. (laughing) It's okay. He's NBA short. Right, but it's just, these games, man, you saw, you just, you saw it coming every time in the third quarter, even when they were up 12 and the four. Like, you just saw it coming. And it's like they have, they can't stop this guy. They can't stop him. So, I don't know, it was deserving. I don't think it's just, experience matters, right? I don't, is anyone disputing talent wise that the spurs were better? No. I mean, they were, they led for 70% of the entire series. They just couldn't quite close it out. And yes, they made some bad decisions down the stretches. But the Nick's experienced, man. And sometimes you just, you got that alligator blood, man, just, that's what the Nick's had. And they just never gave up. And so, awesome for them. Was it 53 years or something? Yeah. That's incredible. So awesome job by the Knicks. I'm not a fan of the Knicks, but I appreciate the run that they went on. And exciting games. - Oh, great, great TV. - Yep, great support. - Yep. Off-track news, Josh Berry out at Woodbrothers next year and Jesse Love in question mark. - Question mark. - Where did you reach, is that, that's a name that's been floating? - Okay, I'm like, but what's your district make that assumption? - That's why the question mark is there. - Oh, it's your question, I didn't write that. - I did. - Technically, Travis is the question mark. But what do you make of Josh Berry out? - I don't know, he's a fellow short track guy, you know, I'm a Josh Berry fan in general. I don't know, I mean, hopefully you can find an opportunity. But it's just, you're, the Woodbrothers, I just don't know. Like, listen, it's, it's Penske's team. They put most, I think they put most of their development people on the 21 car. Because, you know, that is their, that's their pathway to a house car, right? That's, that's, I think that's the way it works. I apologize if I'm wrong in that. But I think that 21 team is mostly developmental people to get ready to go into their main three cars. Woodbrothers owns the charter. Woodbrothers, does their social accounts? But I don't, I don't know how much the Woodbrothers do beyond that, I could, again, I'm very uninformed. But Penske is struggling, and you have a development team on a struggling team. My next question would be, what do you expect? So, I don't know, it just seems like the last, three or four drivers they've had is, it's not paying out good, right? So, not really sure. I don't know how to explain it, but the performance is bad. Let's be factual. Performance is bad. But you're with an organization that is, it's apparent that it's struggling with speed. And you have what you would, I would think, is the fourth best of that struggling team. I just think that the bar is gonna be pretty low. So, who goes in that car? I have no idea. I do not know about that. I haven't heard, I mean, I've heard rumors, but I've heard lots of rumors that have turned out to not be true. So, it's not for me to speculate. Is Jesse Loves ready? I think Jesse Loves is good enough. I do. I've seen him drive enough in a cup car with his little experiences he has. I've seen enough technique wise to say, yes. Is that Jesse Loves could go race cop and be competitive? Would that be a good situation? That's the next question. Let's just pretend he had that opportunity. Yeah. I don't know. I'd have to think about that, but I'd have to ask a lot of questions if I'm Jesse Loves or I'm Jesse Loves team. And I hate that we're putting it out there that he's the guy, like, because somebody else might be on the customer signing this thing. Let's just remove Jesse Loves from the equation and just top-exfinity prospect. Okay. Is that a good situation? His team, I'm asking lots of questions about who's on the car? Where do they come from? I need to know what my other opportunities are. I need to kick around some other tires. There's lots of things. But odds are, if a ride's open, it's open for a reason. And not always. But the big ones are gonna have a point. It's because someone's retiring, but like, if someone's, you're taking a spot that the driver's been letting go, like, it's for a reason. Like, the likelihood of a rally driver moving up and being put in a premier car is low. Yeah, at this day and age, absolutely. You're correct on that. But it is interesting that this sport is unlike the other stick-and-ball sports. You're not forced to go play quarterback for the Jets. You can wait around a little bit. That's good. That's good. I gotta wrap up. I have other stuff to do. I just wanted to talk about, real quick, just now, Guy. Man. I tell you what, he must have a hell of a cheater up car, too. He's locked himself in the chase. Breaking news, just now, Guy has made the Xfinity chase. He's 250 ahead. 250 out. I mean, he's kicking ass. You know, he's beating the competition. It's clear that the junior-versport's cars, in my mind, are a little above than the JGR cars. But I mean, Sam Mayer had a great run, man. I thought he was just good as Justin, if not better, at the end of that race, and just didn't quite have the restart, you know, that he needed, didn't get the push, like, you know, he needed. And so, again, he didn't really, I thought he did a good job in his interview. You know, not throwing his teammate under the bus, understanding that everyone's got to race their own race to try to win. I thought Sam Mayer really went, you know, came a long way when his interviews over the last few years by being respectful. And to me, I was more impressed with this performance than his actual finish. I got a review here from Manatee. Back in August, 2019, I went to Bristol and saw Danny Wynn and beat his favorite driver. I cussed so damn much, I couldn't stand him. Seven years later, I truly enjoy seeing DH beat down. He's giving the field every single week. It was a good run. Kick the feet up. Kick the feet up. Enjoy your-- if you want to-- if you got long, you've got to cut the grass on your ass to go do some stuff. Take some time. Take some time, you know? Maybe check in on NASCAR app. How's he doing? I tune in for stage three to see what kind of-- what's going on? Head to San Diego next week. Catch all the action on Prime. Prime's been doing such a good job in their production. And oh my gosh. Thank you NASCAR and Prime for moving that race up to ours. We'd be racing right now, because they would not have gotten to the end of stage two. Had they not moved it up that two hours. We'd be racing frickin' Monday morning. And that's a bad week for that. And it felt so good. And the hell everybody was there. Just thank you to NASCAR for moving that race up. It was fantastic. More 1 p.m. starts. All together. Break. [MUSIC PLAYING] Check out Dirtymo Media on Instagram, Facebook, X, and TikTok.