Democrats Accused Of CHEATING AGAIN, NBC Guru LOSES IT ON LIVE TV w/ Chris Barnard

so the other nights the progressive in wisconsin who was pulling double digits ahead of the establishment counterpart lost by about 0.5 percent and immediately everybody's reaction is what is up with these polls el sayed in michigan was up almost in some polls 20 points and then barely won now here's where it gets funny now initially if you guys watched my earlier segment my my editor on this whole thing was yeah the polls have always been wrong they skew heavily towards activists because activists are trying to influence these things so it makes sense except when you look at the 3 a.m footage that started going viral of kornacki on nbc when he's trying to wrap his head around a 3 a.m ballot dump which flipped the election giving it to the establishment and he has no words and he's standing there confused and he's like how do i uh how do i say this and immediately everyone the populist left who wanted the progressive to win and every trump supporter they were laughing because they're like dude can't say on nbc news they stole it now we don't know they actually stole it but the story is apparently there were like nine usb drives containing the election data five of them were incorrect and had to be sent back and checked again and when they were the data was apparently not correct and they were like dude can't say on nbc news they stole it apparently different i guess this is a story it's kind of hard to sift through but it is absolutely fascinating to watch now currently the official discussion which again may still be the case is that guys the polls were just wrong and of course people don't like socialists we've gone over all the polling data over and over again on this show people prefer republicans over dsa dsa has their strong base in certain elections and they have done well but they've also done poorly in some areas in illinois they lost this is wisconsin it's not surprising that she actually didn't do that well because a lot of people were wondering how she was doing well to begin with when she said she wanted to ban thanksgiving and she had a bunch of other weird things like that like she posted something about being balls deep in bourbon i guess is that what i don't know whatever so people are like how is she polling so well we're gonna go we're gonna break this one down we'll rip through this one we'll talk about that and uh the other big news is that one of the heads of the southern poverty law center has been arrested criminally charged for assaulting a woman who was a victim of a for fraud so this is massive and then of course carolyn levitt's stepping down as press secretary that's a bit of a blur but we'll get into that stuff talk about everything before we get started my friends we've got a great sponsor it is pds debt head over to pdsdebt.com slash tim feel like you're working hard but losing money every month pds debt can help minimum payments aren't designed to get you out of debt they're designed to keep you stuck pds debt is 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serious nbc data guru steve kornacki visibly shaken by election night madness in francesca hong race i absolutely love this story so we got a couple things to break down and we'll jump to this one second but this is the story of a man who's been in the rnc for a long time from mediaite as well it's blowing up look at these comments wtf is up with these polls experts flummoxed by stunning 20 point misfire in the wisconsin primary now how is it david marcus says can we stop obeying the polls this is grotesque i have to wonder um you can see this in the polls hong was up 18 22 20 13 11 3 1 8 13 2 she was up in every single poll going back to last year she's been the favorite then when it finally came down to it she loses we've got the we got the results right here david crowley wins by 0.5 of a percent beating her out by just around 3 000 was like 3 900 or so he's visibly shaken okay let's play this clip after all this goes down watch this yeah yeah i i here's the here here's the thing um yeah he's literally i didn't pause it that's crazy i thought i was literally just standing there but i don't have the thing here's let's let's let's look at it we're kind of indefinitely waiting for them to get their act together here and get the stick and bring them back i love going on and we've got folks here who are working yeah really and i don't think we want to you know keep them here to um this could go 90 minutes and it's 90 minutes of me saying have you heard of any other athletes running for congress um i I don't know i don't think i've heard of any other athletes running for congress it's it's such a i i it's like we've i know we've come so far here look at look at the lines crossed out like he doesn't know what milwaukee is doing it's been an unbelievably um interesting and and an intense um night here and and it really is coming down to this one giant you know update in milwaukee but man they they they've been doing it for a long time and they've been doing it for a long time and they've been doing it for a long time and they've been doing it for a long time and they've been doing it for a long time and they've been doing it for a long time and they've been doing it for a long time and they've been doing it for a long time and they've been doing it for a long time and they've been doing it for a long time and we we we waited 90 minutes for them they did this whole procession and then they find out there's nothing on the sticks and and yeah so so this is this is milwaukee voting data right nine usb drives containing the ballots and i think people are saying it's something like 20,000 missing ballots i don't know the exact number five of them were blank and so this dude at nbc is literally like uh Hong was winning. And then all of a sudden she was not winning. It's just my way of saying I'm just trying to say the audience here. So I don't abruptly ending on them just why we're doing this, because they've the audience has been with us for four, six hours in some cases for this moment. That didn't didn't happen. And so, folks, we're going to I think we are going to wrap it here for the reasons where we're here. We're saying here just. OK, you guys get it right. So here's the story. Socialists are furious, says Eric Daugherty. Human error in Milwaukee after midnight causes five USB sticks to not have election results on them. So officials went back and fixed the data, uploaded it, and the socialists then narrowly lost by a few thousand votes. Dude, she was narrowly ahead. Right. I think we actually have this in the in the video here. Right behind him. Eight hundred and fourteen thousand. There was a point in the night where she was ahead a little bit and then something happens. Is our new expected vote for this primary. And he's like, wait, what happened? Yeah. OK, wait, hold on. If we go back a few minutes. Eighty one precincts reporting on their website. Two seventy. Say again. So if you jump back only a couple of minutes before he went nuts. Hong was up or I was tied too close to call. She was slightly ahead for a while. And then you get this. Yeah, there's that. OK, that point. And then you jump ahead. And I don't know. Let's. It's pretty wild. But I want I want to I want to play more from from about the USB sticks. Listen to this from Milwaukee. And the results we uncovered was that five of the sticks had the audit log. downloaded and not the results. It's a human error. These things can happen, so basically what we need to do is go back to the operations center and we're going to download out of those five machines the results and make sure that's not the audit log. So we have the reports printed from the first download. We're going to reprint and start the process so that we can compare those results. We invite you to come join us. Milwaukee Police Department will come with us, too. And so we'll redownload those results and then send them back here to be uploaded. Okay, now it's entirely possible this is, look, it's a primary for the Democrats. So people on the right who are traumatized and angry over elections when Trump loses and things like this are going to be like, yeah, they cheated. Socialists who wanted to win are going to be like, yeah, they cheated. But it's entirely possible they didn't cheat, and it literally is just a single error in, you know, Milwaukee. But I do want to point out one thing. I have a question for you guys. So this was a Milwaukee error. The guy who won. His name is David Crowley. He's a county executive. Anyone want to take a stab at which county he's an executive of? I wonder if it's Milwaukee County. It would be, in fact, Milwaukee County. So the Milwaukee County executive who is running against the Democratic Socialists, who is behind in the polls double digits, had a what some people describe as a fortuitous error in Milwaukee, which, you know, we just don't know what happened to those ballots. And I guess I guess Crowley wins. It's pretty clear that Republicans need to run Democrat elections because Democrats have no idea how to run elections at all. I want to talk about it. Not that not the Republicans are perfect, but the Republicans seem less likely to cheat because I just read real quick. I assure you the narrative is going to come out. The story is going to be they never actually lost the voting data. It was a single blip. That they went, checked it. It was correct. And you're all conspiracy theorists. And trust us. Yeah, they're going to come back and be like, look, there was an error on the sticks. We fixed it. What what's the significance of Milwaukee County? I think this guy being a Milwaukee County guy. That's where it happened. That's where the ballots were missing from. I mean, look, I'm sorry, dude. That's if there was like, OK, if a guy lived in a like on a certain street and then like he was trying to buy a plot of land. A lot of land from another guy and then that guy and like they were pretty contentious and then that guy turned up dead like you got a principal suspect here. You know what I mean? And like mail gets stolen. It's not doesn't implicate the mailman, but a mailman would have a real easy time stealing mail. I think you're supposed to scan it and stuff. What's that? Just not delivering it. You just assume because he's a public servant that he wouldn't do that. I mean, how could you ever do evil if you're serving the public very easily? Apparently, that's why we trust. I mean, oh, wait, there's more videos. Be like, let me let me pull this one up. Are you serious? Yeah. OK, this is great. Listen, so here's what I think. Milwaukee is going to be densely progressive. It's an urban center. There's there's another video. There's so many videos of this guy. And, you know, we don't have all of them. One of them is where the dude stuttering and stammering, trying to figure out how it is that Hong lost, considering he's like, is there like a. Is there some kind of urban center somewhere like is he can't wrap his head around all the counties that should not have given Crowley the win? And it did. Milwaukee is likely heavy progressive. And those five sticks had nothing on him. I mean, look, it's hilarious. It's just in my opinion, it's it's just a hilarious clown show. You know, whether the Democrats are not having primaries or installing their primaries. You know, whether it's the preferred candidate through, I guess, fortuitous circumstances for the the candidate in question. This is this isn't something that's surprising to anybody anymore. And this goes to the fact that or plays into the whole we don't trust people in the system anymore. The the disillusion with government is no law is not just a right wing thing. The left has plenty of people that don't trust the government. And these kind of things break down the trust in our institutions continue. It only gets worse and worse and worse. What's even crazier about this situation is, as you might remember, this is not the first time this has happened in Milwaukee County. It's not the second time it's happened in Milwaukee County. It's the third time in a row, 2020, 2024. And now again, where there's been a human error and each time it was not a machine error. It was a human error. And so in the very best case scenario, it's just sheer like human incompetence in these Democratic run cities, where they're not able to actually do their job. Sure about that. Well, I said very best case scenario. But I mean, look, at the end of the day, to your point, like people have a reason to mistrust government when they see stories like this. And it's it's not going to help yet. I think people are tending now to distrust tech technology in some ways. And like there are some really good technocrats. Here's the question. Here's the question. Would we be mad if they stopped the socialists from winning? I mean, she said before she wanted to abolish Thanksgiving. Do we want her getting anywhere near seats of power? No. I'm of two minds. And those are? Well, first of all, obviously, I want to keep the far left out of positions of influence. But at the same time, seeing as we have Mamdani, we have the socialist mayor in Seattle. If we were to get another person that is a far leftist, you will see clearly the difference between. Normal Republican governors or or politicians and leftist, you're going to see it in New York, you're going to see it in Seattle and you're actually you're already starting to see it in New York that they just they just I just saw something that said that the highest rents now are the highest they've ever been. Six thousand seven hundred dollars, I think, or something like that. Six hundred ninety five dollars, something like that. Average. No, the highest the per month. But still, the point is, you're going if the highest ones go up, all the other ones go up to, you know, it's like. It's. It's not like it's not like it's because of rent control and stuff like that. These policies don't work. And people need to understand that these promises that the far left makes, they can't deliver on them. So part of me doesn't want to see them win. But part of me wants to see them win and fail. So that way, this this experiment is going on with socialist policies. You know, we nip it in the butt. You you you can tell people all. You want that we had the best experiment in Berlin, right from from when the from whatever after the end of World War Two until the wall came down, same population, same people, same history and East Berlin had to build a wall to keep people in the average life expectancy of people in East Berlin versus the people in West Berlin was like three or four years shorter in East Berlin. And then after the wall fell within 10 years, the people. The people of East Berlin, their life expectancy went up to equal with West Berlin. Like you had all of these these clear problems that socialism causes. You didn't have them in West Berlin, but you had them in East Berlin. And and that it was it was undeniable. It's a part of why for almost 20 years after the Soviet Union fell, it was just kind of thought as a given. Socialism doesn't work like there are a few basket case countries or whatever that are still trying it with dictators. But the economic system, the economics of it don't work at all. And now you have people that want to flirt with it again, people that want to try it out again. And I don't want to see a significant battle in the United States, political battle in the United States between the far left and normal people. I want to see that kind of stuff nipped in the bud. Here's my hot take on how Republicans should think about this in competitive places like Wisconsin. It's actually to Republicans interest for these Democrats. They want these Democratic socialist candidates to win in the primary because they're much more easily beatable in the general. Now you have an establishment Democrat who might actually put up a really competitive race against Tom Tiffany. But someone that said, I want to cancel Thanksgiving is going to be much more easy to beat. And so in this particular case, it's so much like when when when the machine like went against Bernie in 2016. Right. Like they saw Hillary as the candidate that was more likely to beat the Republican. And so the machine turned against someone like Bernie Sanders. We want we want, I think, these these Democratic socialist candidates to win in the primary because they're much more easily beatable in the general. And so I think it's important for us to win primaries in competitive places because it makes it easier for Republicans to win. Although there's the I think Trump was that they wanted him to be the candidate in 16 because he was going to be easy to beat. I think I think that was their mindset. So you got to be careful sometimes about installing a demon because the demons easier to slay. Sometimes they'll win. That's true. They they they wrote in emails that the DNC that Trump was their Pied Piper candidate that they would help prop him up because he would lead people astray. Like he would be a candidate who can't win and it would fracture. His base, essentially, and did the opposite. It's why I have an outright supported things. I don't I just I love, you know, you know, I want to say this. I think that strategy from Hillary Clinton really shows the how obtuse the Democrats had been on the issue of their own. What's the right word? Reasoning? No, no, no, no. Like troll ability to understand how how much people hate them. Like, is there a word for that? So Hillary's. going, I got an idea. Let's help Trump be the nominee because people will hate him. And it's like, lady, when you stand next to Donald Trump, he looks like a supermodel. You know, you could have taken any one of these other Democratic candidates. They could have put up Tulsi. Bernie would have done way better. But when you stand, it's like Donald Trump on his own, sure, compared to the way politics had been. Some people really liked him. Some people didn't like him. And then, you know, you put Donald Trump on the stage and it's polarizing. A lot of people are going to be like, oh, man, I like what he's saying, but I just don't like how he says it. I don't know if I could vote for a guy like that. Then Hillary, you know, shuffles over and she goes, and they're like, I'm voting Trump. It's like, you know, you do like if you ever if you ever saw like an average woman and you want to make her look better, you get an ugly woman to stand next to her. And then everyone's like, by comparison, she's right. Yeah, they did. She made Trump look so sexy. You know, it's really funny is even in the literal sense. That's true. Yeah. I'm just saying, like, when you look at how awful Hillary is, Trump is both physically attractive and politically attractive. I guess if Bernie had been the candidate, maybe he would have been the Pied Piper like I would have voted for Bernie. I didn't vote in that because I couldn't stand either of those guys at that time. And I didn't understand what Trump I didn't understand a lot of what was going on with like migration and stuff that he'd been talking about. Do you not think in today's politics that that dynamic overwhelmingly favors populist right wingers over left wingers? Because like a lot of the like things that might be seen as slightly unpalatable or slightly crazy that a right winger would say on like migration or whatever else will resonate more with the average voter than someone that says I want to cancel Thanksgiving. Right. Like, I'm not sure it's like an equal dynamic on both the left and the right. No, I think you're right. Like, look, the policies that are populist right nowadays were boilerplate Democrat twenty five years ago. You know, like, Barack Obama said that we need to, you know, deport illegals. Hillary Clinton said that we need to deport it. Deport illegals in the 90s. They were talking about building a wall like these things are not actually radical policies. They're very they're very boilerplate nationalist policies. And people generally think of the Americans want to think of the United States as a country and as as a home to them and their children, their progeny. And they want to think of the United States as generally good. So, like, that's not these aren't aren't some kind of off the wall things like nobody actually like no normal people think, oh, police need to be abolished. Right. You know, nobody thinks that. Right. Like most people are like, no, you probably give the cops a little more money because, you know, I know a couple of cops and they don't make that great money and blah, blah, blah. You know, this is it's it's the brain rot generation. Right. So I go on Instagram and I've been getting I watch a lot of body camera video footage because it's been it's been popping off. Even like, you know, Aspen Gold's been watching a lot of body cam stuff. Everybody is there's no news. And it's like it's like watching cops do that show was that show was fun to watch. But here's the thing. Initially, the body camera stuff that I'm getting sent, it's like I watched a video where a lady cop is walking up to a car and a guy pulls a gun on her and she freaks out. And then there's like she calls for backup and the guy shoots the driver. And you're like, oh, wow, that's crazy. Now I'm getting sent videos where cops are just murdering people. And so you think about what happened to the brain rot generation. And when they go on Instagram and they're in the carousel content machine, they swipe and there's one video where a guy gets pulled over for some like minor infraction. The cop does like a what was it called? Suplex. Yeah. And then when the dude gets up, the cop just drives a gun and shoots him. And so you may have seen this video. It's gone. It was massively viral. Yeah. The guy runs for a while and just collapses and dies. And that cop got in trouble. There's a there's another video where a guy sleeping. You guys see this one. The cops. These guys are at a hotel. They get trespassed. The cops go in and the guy sleeping and he's like hitting him. He's like, wake up. And he's like blasting light in his eyes. And the guy's like out of it. And then he just starts beating out of him. And then the next thing you see is like in the jail. Just like, oh, and it's like his face is covered in blood. Apparently, the guy got in trouble. If you're only ever being sent videos of cops just mercilessly beating people illegally, these people with Internet brain rot literally think cops are going under this. Take a look at what Kathy Griffin posted. You guys see what Kathy Griffin posted? Not lately. Hold this one up for you guys, because it's going to make you it's gonna make you sad. You know, I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm sad by a lot of this stuff. I tweeted it. Let me see if I can find it. It wasn't that long ago of that woman. You do. Well, Griffin, I have watched her career for about 30 years and I appreciate what she did in the early days. I once she pulled a visage of Trump's head out, a bloody stump. I was a little turned off and gave up on her. Did he still look beautiful in the stone? He was hot. It was it was it was an erotic photo, I guess, is the best word I could think to describe. It erotic. And while Tim's pulling that up, I'm trying to pull it up. I can't find it. I don't know why it's not popping up. It's part of this echo chamber of like people seeing the cop videos that gets more and more intense, which is why I had a hard time answering your question about like, do you think people are more into the populace right of the pop? Because I'm in an echo chamber. I don't I can't tell. I don't know how to tell. Do you think your average American sees that and like thinks all cops are bastards? Like, like, no, I'm not sure. Not at first. But if they get bombarded, I think the human mind will get it. So this was August 3rd. And. I love threads. I'm a big threads fan because it's just like a paranoid. It's like going to the asylum. Kathy Griffin wrote, just had a full on panic attack, was on my daily walk and passed two L.A. sheriffs, one with his motorcycle on the sidewalk. I have been harassed and recognized by law enforcement for the last nine years, almost beyond belief. So one of them said to me, well, it's Kathy Griffin. And I started shaking and I almost started crying. But I just waved and said, hey, fellas, could have been nothing. But now. I have this scared feeling that I cannot get rid of. That means you need to do an intestinal cleanse, Kathy. Got a lot of gut bacteria. You need to evacuate. You know what? Maybe making you nervous. All I can tell you is like cortisol is out of control. This is this is threads brain. This is the paranoid delusional state. You want to you want to know? Let me tell you a story. So I was in D.C. last weekend and we went to a restaurant. I forgot what it was called, but it was right next. The convention center had a sneaker convention and I had a wonderful breakfast hanging out with my boy, Brandon. And so I was like, I'm gonna go to the bathroom. Right. This is what you do. You know, I just wanted to use the bathroom, you know. And so I did. And I walked out. There was a there was a cop walking into the bathroom and I held the door for him and he went, thanks. And I was like, yeah, that's literally all that happened. I can imagine how scared you are. And I must have been terrified. Actually, it was he was looking at his gun because I was like, he's probably, you know, it's a good thing you were leaving. I opened the door. I went to the bathroom. I washed my hands. You know, I'm walking out as I'm opening the door to leave. I see a cop walking. So I just hold the door for a second. He goes, thanks. I'm like, you got it, brother. Literally, the world these people live in is horrifying. It's absolutely terrifying. I said liberals have it tough. I can't imagine living this way. I mean, now think about what happens then if you go to Kathy Griffin and you say, should we abolish the police? What do you think she's going to say? You say, yes. Now, here's the thing. Is this is a phobia? Yes. What do you call it? Cop phobia? Yeah, that's probably something else. So phobia. It's one of the two phobia. So authority phobia. She's going to say these poor, innocent men in prison should be released because cops are bad because she's got brain rot. Meanwhile, the dude in jail has got like a toothbrush and is going. And then the guard walks up and he's like, what do you know? I'm practicing my stabbing. It's like, well, Kathy Griffin just got you released and he's like because that's. I stab somebody called capiophobia. What is it? Happy. Happy. Happy. Oh, sure. Yeah. That's what that's what the Internet says. You freaking capi. A.P.I.O. Also like capo, the root word. Happy. Oh, yeah. From the Latin capio, which is arrest and Greek phobos fear. So. Capo is arrest. Oh, fear of arrest. Happy. Oh, happy. Oh, phobia. Without being redundant because I was also scopa phobia. What's that scope of phobia of being watched? Oh, yeah. Oh. Oh. So I'm a scopo file. You love witness me. Yeah. Yeah. I I I think this is media induced psychotic derangement that a lot of people are going through. And maybe that's a redundant thing or an obvious thing to say. A lot of people in the audience probably already believe that or know that. But, you know, no point in not saying acknowledge it when it comes up. A lot of people are living like this, like it's ingrained in what they are right now. And it's not that they're always doomed to live like this, but man, what a terrible way. To be man. That's that's like the crazy thing about leftist victimhood culture. Right. Because you start seeing the things that you've told you are going to be there in the first place. Right. You see that all the time. It's like you're expecting the police to, like, do something bad to you. So you go into like a preemptive psychosis over it. When you can when you're instructed or you're taught to see the world with a with a power dynamic through a power dynamic lens. Right. So the oppressor and the oppressed and you see in every interaction someone is the oppressor and someone is. The oppressed, whether it be the employer and the employee, whether it be a white person as the oppressor and a brown person as the oppressed, the police, as the oppressor and the citizen, as the oppressed. There's a power dynamic. There's a way you can see basically every interaction as a power dynamic. And when you see the oppressor as always evil, right, you see the person in a position of authority as always evil. It starts to F with your mind. I THINK IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. IT REALLY DOES CAUSE ANXIETY. causes uh it causes you know neuroticism and stuff it makes people afraid of just normal interactions and you hear it all the time from people you're a victim in search of a crime or an oppressor like you're looking for it at that point i think that is true and i but i don't think it's only people that have leftist political views because i can see people whether you consider on the right that becomes scared of leftists it's a concept and when you meet what's that that's also insane yeah right because when you meet people face to face people just people like you break through the political bullshit right away when you if you go right i think the difference though is for a lot of leftism is it's like an ingrained ideological thing it's like like the oppressor versus oppressed yeah kind of dynamic so doesn't really exist as much on the right as it does in like that's like left-wing there's this well what was this guy named what no i think i think i think another quote you're gonna say so i'll just so there's this guy named palo frieri that wrote a book called the pedagogy of the oppressed right and this book basically teaches people to see the world through the marxist power dynamic and that book became a big deal in all of the schools of education which are the the schools that teach teachers and so when you teach a generation or two or three of teachers to see the world like this and they pass it on to their students not just in colleges but in regular uh regular grade school right you're teaching kids you know oh look this is the way that the world works the the world is always a power dynamic and when you do that it's not to the people that have been conditioned to see the world like that it's not political it's just the way that they see the world i think the world is a power dynamic but it's way more than that like i was thinking yesterday about how like you know how they say the rich get richer well that you can see that in nature the hunter that succeeds is gonna become a better hunter they're gonna because they're the ones that get the food so they're the ones that have the nutrition to have the energy to hunt again tomorrow so i understand the reality of power dynamic it's natural it's normal like this show is called tim cast tim has the right to shut it down none of us can really complain about i mean complain but like there's a power dynamic everywhere you go you're gonna find them but that doesn't mean that the authorities are evil or bad it does not you can have really good people in power yeah and really and and the problem that i see today is that you know in the trump era we had a large a coalition of people that were distrusting of power the only problem is a good portion of them distrust power no matter what so even after they fought for trump it in the grifters stepped in and said we're gonna just go after this people that distrust power no matter what right so trump finally wins you're like okay he's defeated the deep state largely they're still there and there are people going yeah but now that he has power he's bad and it's like you can't win that way you can't win yeah well i think to the point about like people on the right having that mindset it's a genuinely miserable way to live right like kathy griffin obviously seems like a very miserable individual it's important i think that the people on our side are cautioned against that because if you're going around looking for everything to be offended by or thinking someone's out to get you it's a really depressing way to look at the world and even like in small ways like obviously like we can watch the odyssey and be upset that they like chose a transgender actor to represent a male or whatever or a black woman to be helen of troy whatever but that shouldn't necessarily prevent you from also like seeing the broader story or enjoying the movie as a whole and fixating on those small little things i think it's just one of the reasons why a lot of people on the left are so miserable because it becomes this victimhood mentality right if you fight back against it it tends to win a lot of times like if you try and struggle against evil evil consumes it lives rent free in your head at the end of the day and and like accepting it that it's part of reality even though it's goofy or if you think it's whatever that thing is that you don't like just it's it's a goofy part of reality but i'm better show them instead of complaining about how bad that is just show them how good you are like be the beacon that people will turn to look at that's i think what that's where i'm thinking after what you said yeah i mean i i get what you're saying um but if you look at uh polls and stuff like that of just overall happiness people on the left are generally less happy than people on the right it's because they have this worldview like if you're constantly looking for who's oppressing you what you're you're putting you're taking and i've talked about this a lot in the past couple past couple weeks but if you if you feel like people are constantly oppressing you you have the mindset that the world happens to you you don't have you don't happen to the world you don't have agency someone else is causing all of the problems in your life and you're look that means you'll look to someone else to solve them if you have a mindset of agency where you can go out and do things you're going to happen to the world not that the world happens to you not that other people uh you know create your circumstances you create your own circumstances you're going to live a happier life overall because you will feel like you that you taking action in the world is going to produce a better result for you than sitting by and saying well i can't do this because you know someone's gonna take it away or i can't do that because someone's just gonna gonna you know screw it up for me or if i try to do this it's just gonna get messed up so oh you know and he just hurt you turn into like you know team bum out and i you know it's much better to be on team good times where you're like you know what let's go do this let's go try this i i think we can do it and if we mess it up so what man we can try again you know or we'll learn something from messing it up it's it's fine to mess up it's fine to to make mistakes let's go out and and and you know give it our all and and we'll learn something and next time we'll be better that's team good times if you're on team bum out oh you know what's the point of trying you know life's happening to you you're not setting the tone exactly and and that kind of that kind of eight that kind of attitude of agency is a big part of why people feel better about themselves and about their lives people on the right tend to feel better about themselves and their lives than people on the left you know what you got to do you got to make an x account and a threads account and on x just be like hardcore maga and on the on threads be just anti-trump and just be the funniest thing in the world because it'll work well then you can also take screen screenshots of yourself your threads account put them on to x and complain about on yourself and then take i mean literally like ian has an ian crossing on threads where he's just like trump is bad and then actually he's like you know trump is trying his hardest because they've like i'm just on threads right now and it's completely bifurcated people have isolated each other on threads it's just endless left trump is evil he's a fascist these people are just plum crazy right on x it's all very moderate to right threads is nuts i'm curious your take on like obviously the like elon takes over x or twitter calls it x and free speeches back all that kind of stuff but also because of that bifurcation it feels like some of the more like substantive dialogue that used to happen is no longer happening agreed like you have the same experience uh well i mean it's largely true take a look at the krasensteins and and pull up their thread and it's like they just gave up yeah they they they post just uh it's like boomer memes at this point right where they'll it'll be a video of trump walking out of a helicopter and they're like how could he do it and you're like they're not even trying anymore and it's true so it's like most of them had this moment where they're like i'm out of x like it's it's insufferable i'm gonna go somewhere else and then they literally to your point just gave up yeah i think threads well they're on threads i i go on threads all the time i love it it's just like it didn't count it's it's pure nuts i don't i have it i hardly ever look at it yeah i made one and i can't delete it now so it's oh you're stuck with it it's integrated into your i love it i love it i love it i love it i love it when i see like on threads or instagram and the the boomers fall for the ai stuff and it's just listen man i'm telling you the ai stuff i i saw i i've i've seen more than enough videos where it's like a gen z dude reacting to what is clearly ai and it's got a million views and all the comments are like whoa and then you'll see one halfway down the comments being like guys it's ai but nobody cares did you see anthropic said they're gonna start watermarking their text honestly i like that idea so that any text created you have an invisible watermark on yeah and then eventually i think there'll be that'll there'll be tech out there to bypass it but it's kind of cool yeah um i mean i think with ai it's gonna be this is a little bit of a tangent there's gonna be the it's gonna segment into three different entities one of them is gonna be the human is gonna stay human then there's gonna be the ai that becomes a sentient entity an invasive species that is here with us and like dangerous and then there's gonna be people that merge with ai and become a borg creature to combat the ai thing and then uh it's like we kind of have a duty of this generation people that are actually aware of it to to bind with the machine before some evil sycophants like sick people do it and take over and become the most dominant evil creature on in the universe like that's it's a horrible i don't want to bind with a machine but it's the same i mean we're doing it right now we're using a camera to talk to half a million people that are like in real time we're interfacing with your brain this is like you know this is quasi tech technique uh what quasi technique the nice thing about english is you can make words by adding he needs a chip implant it was english german somebody reset me you're thinking of german not english as long as you use a hyphen you know you're good at a really high level to your point that's also like the reason we want the u.s to win the ai race to not like the chinese communist party because like they will use it for reasons that we clearly do not want and their their moral qualms about like using it on humans or whatever else is just they non-existent it's like a layer on the cake of talking about social media induced psychosis like what kathy griffin's going through this It's a whole other. You guys want to go into the deep underbelly? Oh, every day. Yes. Let's talk about bobblehead girl. Did you guys see the story of bobblehead girl? She's not real. She's not real? Bobblehead woman behind Trump in Oval Office explains why she kept holding her stomach. Jamie Franklin, who went viral for nodding her head along and holding her stomach behind Trump, says she's pregnant, not a zapper. Let me play this video for you first. So here's the video of the woman. At the NIH, what we've done is we have established the Autism Data Science Initiative, which started almost a year, actually more than a year ago, where we funded a dozen and more major research teams to answer the question of what is the cause of autism. Donald Trump was reported. Well, we don't need whatever that is, but everyone's saying that she's a robot. So let me pull up this year post from Threads. Cosmos Connector says, So the scarf is to hide the fact this person is wearing a mask, and they wanted to make sure we couldn't see that it's not connected to the neck. Hair is a wig, too. You know, I gotta say, it does kind of look like a mask. Yeah. The more I look at it, it actually does. Wow. I don't want to burst anyone's bubble here, but I have actually met her. Yeah, but. Real life. Maybe that was still a robot. No, no, no. Hold on, hold on. See, this is. You're playing games. Bro, you're playing games. The point is. The point is. You see the story about Usher hiring a body double? Yeah. No. I did. Oh, come on, guys. Oh. Come on. Give it to me. See, all I do is read the news all day, every day. I read hundreds of articles. I did it for like an hour today, and I was thinking about it. Usher responds after viral concert footage sparks body double claims. Bro, why not? He's got two bodies? This may blow your mind. Guys, did you know that the Blue Man Group, it's actually a bunch of different people? Yeah. No way. Really? Yep. Did you not know that? I was kidding. I know, I know. I had a friend. Don't they appear on stage at the same time? So initially, it was three guys. Then they started. They were like, anyone can put on latex and paint and be a Blue Man. So they franchised, basically, so you could do their shows. It's brilliant. Yes. If you're Usher, and you're like, yo, just hire a guy and pay him like 10K per show to be me. Oh, and then he's going to do backing tracks of his voice? I mean, he could have been playing another show. No, not even that. Bro, you could easily find a lookalike who can sing. And if you put it in the terms of the ticket purchase, they can't really sue you. No, they can't sue either way, because Usher is a brand, and the performance is there. And how are you going to prove the guy on stage that you see a tiny little dude on stage? So my point is, you may have met her, but maybe she hired a body double because she had a prior engagement and needed the appearance. I'm telling you, man, you watch the expos over in China, like the robot expos. And they have robots that look similar. Word is, she has a belly button zapper to wake him up. I think she posted that she's pregnant. So the other conspiracy theory is that she's got a button that she's pressing to shock Trump awake. On her belly button? Because he's sleeping. Like a BSG. That's Hassan, actually, in a robot costume. Hassan and his dog. I saw a tweet that said, I'm pregnant, LOL, and it was her or whatever. But maybe. Maybe it was her. Maybe it was just a person claiming to be her. I'm so confused by the media these days. Wait, so if she's a robot, what do we think? She's like a US robot or some other country place or there? No, no, no, no, no. She's not a robot. That's so silly. She's a lizard person. She's wearing the mask, you know, doing lizard person stuff. I think it's funny, too, though, because you can actually see her neck. It's funny. I honestly just think it's a low-res camera and a lot of makeup. And a lot of makeup. And it's just because, like, she's expressionless. I'm not trying to be a dick, but she's just not really emoting. There was a moment when you first pulled this up where I was like, oh, my God, does Trump have, like, a robot guard? And obviously, I know he doesn't. But thinking about the first president that will have be flanked by two robots as his guard, his personal guard, how did we get here? It's because a dude had a robot next to him in the Oval Office one day. We should start a robot armed guard service company called Praetoria. That's a good name. Bring it back. And then the president can have some Praetorian guards. Oh, yeah. We know how that went. Aren't they basically working on those, like, exoskeletal things for the military? Yeah, they've had those for a long time. A long time. Yeah, but the problem with that is, let me do this. You ever watch the show Venture Brothers? Yeah, I love that show. You've never seen it? So Venture Brothers was a parody of Johnny Quest, basically, but a bunch of other comic book elements. So it was parodying, like, a lot of the comic book stuff. And so, you know, I don't even remember the guy's name. It's been so long since I've seen the show. The grandpa? The main guy. Venture. Dr. Venture. Two kids, yeah, Dr. Venture. So he's, like, a scientist, and he's got a bunch of crazy stuff. One of the bad guys has a henchman. He's a comic book nerd, a fat guy. He shows up to a yard sale for Dr. Venture with all these crazy gadgets and gizmos. And he finds a lightsaber. And he's like, oh, my God. And he's, like, swinging it on. He's like, I have to get it. And then he's like, how much for the lightsaber or for the laser sword or whatever? And Dr. Venture's like, oh, I don't know. I made it for the army, but they said we don't sword fight anymore. That was one of the best jokes because a lightsaber is a stupid weapon. Like, it's just stupid. But it's sci-fi fantasy, and people are like, how cool would it be if you have a lightsaber? It's like, dude, a gangbanger, a 12-year-old kid with a gun is going to beat you with a lightsaber. Lightsaber doesn't do anything. It's cool that it can. So the point is, exoskeleton suits are the same thing. Why am I going to build a suit for a guy when I can get a $50 drone with a kilo of C4 and just fly it through the air and blow you up? Those things, I think they're for. You can get a kilo of C4? No, I'm saying. Right now, the mechanical, the bio, what are they called, the mech suits that dudes get in are more for lifting, exosuits for lifting, like being like construction dudes on site. They're like lifting. But why when you can just have a forklift? See, this is the thing. You know, the U.S. military was trying to build jetpacks. The idea was, I think this is like the 50s. I can't remember what year it was. But they were like, hey, you know, like, what if our dudes could fly? Like, we'd win every war if we had jetpacks. Rocket man. So they built jetpacks. And the problem is the fuel burn off is so quick. I think the best they ever did, even to this day, is like 30 minutes. So back then, they got it to like five minutes of flight time. And they're like, you got this ridiculous rig. You're going to fly for like five minutes. And then what? Dump it? That's ridiculous. And so they built a platform you stand on. And it would float up. Actually, let me see if I can find this. Flying U.S. military platform. Let me see if I can find the video. What years were these around? Yeah, I got it. It's called the Hiller VZ-1 Pawnee. And so, you know what they finally figured out? The 1955 hoverboard. Check this out. The United States Navy reveals the closest thing yet to a magic carpet. It's called the flying platform. The safety lines keep it close to the ground as the pilot demonstrates how he steers, merely by shifting his weight in the direction he wants to go. Still in research, it may yet become an Austin 7 of the air. Two small engines drive two propellers rotating in opposite directions underneath the flying platform. Taking off in untethered flight, it rises on the blast of air sucked in through holes in the top of the platform and driven down by the propeller thrust. In California, where it was built, the flying platform hovers only a few feet from the Earth like a power-driven pogo stick. So, you want to know why they never used those things? Because they're death machines? Helicopters. Oh, yeah. They were like, why don't we just do helicopters and then we can transport a handful of dudes and those things will fly. Those things can store fuel and fly for a long time. So, jetpacks were just not realistic. To this day, people dream of having jetpacks. And they've made more efficient ones where you've got the arm pieces and you can lift off and stabilize, but they're still generally inefficient. There are people who, have you seen those wingsuits that have engines? And they look like they're people attached to little planes. Just inefficient. It just, it makes no sense. You're going to, it has to be disposable. It just doesn't make any sense. It's super lightweight, too. It's got to be lightweight. It's got to be lightweight to be effective. If you could make a suit that could compress down into like a backpack and used a kind of fuel cell that was very energy dense, maybe solid state batteries are now in the works. They're very energy dense. Maybe we'll get there. But to the point about exosuits, it's just, why? Well, I like them because they're compact. Because you can fold them up, put them in the back of a truck, and then if the truck breaks down, a guy can get out, suit up, and lift the truck out of the mud, potentially. I think that's the idea, is that they're portable. There's probably some like, like, you know, when the SEALs go in to like extract like a high-value target. Ukraine just deployed exoskeletons on the front line. No, they actually did this. We have these. If you lose the suit, dog. Not in the Defense Expo. In combat. Suit's more valuable than the soul. Okay, so this is fake. Gets to a point where. I like that movie a lot. Will it somehow. Let's just jump ahead. So I want to point this out, right? So we actually own these. I forgot what they're called. We have like four pairs of these. Four pairs of these. Yeah. They attach to your thighs. You have them here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're downstairs. What are we waiting for? We've already made videos with them. We sit down during the show. We don't have to walk around. When you. I'm wearing them right now. So like, it centers the pressure on your like hips. Yeah. And when you lift your leg, it's got an algorithm that, like a miniature AI, that the actuators lift your leg for you. So it reduces the amount of muscle use when you're walking by like 15 to 20%. Wow. I think the funniest thing is we filmed a skate video with it and we were like let's try skateboarding with these things it just doesn't do anything because skateboarders you don't go forward you go sideways so your legs are like this you go leg sideways and you jump and i was like bro what if this helps you jump and like you could skate better it didn't it's just worse uh it just doesn't do anything it just does nothing yeah you know i'd be worried about landing falling and landing your back whatever the company hit us up and they were like yo did it work did it make skateboarding easier and i was like nah i wish i could say yes because it'd be so cool we do commercials for you but nah nah um what i will say is this actually doesn't make sense these things do work they're actually fairly incredible and uh i forgot what they're called because we we got them a year ago we haven't downstairs if you guys had to pick and get like these cybernetic hypershell hypershell like surgically implanted and we know where these are they're downstairs somewhere i thought i saw them like lying on the ramp or something like that but yeah so for hiking that they're actually they actually do work when you walk you're like holy crap like it walks for you basically in sci-fi in starcraft i don't even have to play starcraft tycus is one of the characters who he's a he's a criminal so one of their punishments is you can either die spend your life in prison or we're gonna put you permanently inside of a mech suit and so they surgically implant him into the mech suit and he's that's his life is now he's in a mech suit and then like x-com dudes get mech suits that are like bad asses but then you get dudes that are mutants that are like genetically altered so like one guy might be able to run super far because he's got mechanical legs but the other guy's just genetically it's more about to not need oxygen look a big part of at least infantry kind of stuff like not really special forces stuff but infantry stuff it's just carrying heavy shit up mountains because you're you're bait like if you can get a position a higher position than your opponents you have an advantage it's harder to shoot up than it is to shoot down so you're carrying heavy machine guns you know 20 pounds plus all the ammo plus all your gear you're carrying 100 pounds up a mountain that was one of the things that that they talked about it and it's one of the hardest things about being in afghanistan afghanistan is if you're in the mountainous regions you're basically just carrying heavy shit up the mountain all the time and so you put those things on and they can help it help make it easier because you get up to the top of the mountain and then you get attacked you know you got a bunch of dudes that are sucking wind because air's thinner it was hard to get all crap up there you got to run around trying to get a defensive position and blah blah blah blah so those those kind of things will actually make it easier for you to get stuff where you need to get it carrying your gear it's not about making you superhuman and being able to like leap tall buildings or anything or run super fast it's about making the making it easier to carry a load reducing fatigue reducing like a battery or something or is it just it's got removable batteries so uh i mean they're downstairs i just don't feel like running down the ground i don't want to get them i just don't know where they are uh you can check the kitchen they might be in the kitchen if not they might be by the door are they in a box man i don't know gander is anybody here you can ask were they expensive yeah there's several thousand dollars yeah so like the uh we got the ultra high end one it's two grand each did they send these to you or did you buy no no i mean yeah yeah that is expensive but i mean you're looking at the the gear that a just a normal infantryman carries now like you're looking at a kevlar helmet that's like two grand your pvs 14 night vision that's just a single monocle that's three grand the mistake what they need to do the reason why this is limited is like it does help it does reduce exertion on your thighs but if they extended down to your feet and they had platforms where you like you stood on it yeah it actually reduced the weight of like your carry weight that would be massive that means if you're carrying a large backpack and the backpack mounts to the back of the brace which is then supported on the ground it's going to remove a hundred pounds of weight off your back yeah then when you start walking you're still carrying a portion of the weight but it's going to reduce your carry weight by a large percentage so that's cool but uh you know for war it's funny to see that ukrainians are using these things because it probably is good for long you know hikes it's going to be good these things matter you know soldiers march on their bellies but i think what they're doing with drones is just more effective yeah to be fair a drone can't occupy a street corner though so have you guys seen the video the footage of all the fiber optic cables all over the forest like spider webs no they control easy they control the drone and they're not going to be able to drones through fiber optic cables really thin ones because the uh the wireless ones were getting jammed up they're using jammers blast them out of the sky that's crazy isn't it like draped almost like they got toilet paper like webs all over the trees dude it's crazy wow yeah man the world that we live in should we talk about uh the doj we got this story from politico ex-southern poverty law center official charged in broader criminal case against group lawyer says heidi byrich a political extremism expert yeah who served at the law center as the law center's chief financial officer was named an indictment unsealed wednesday is this the lady who was giving money to her white supremacist husband it was a boyfriend boyfriend yeah like a million bucks or something i think it was more than no these people are swindlers i'm not surprised she looks like that you know the sad the sad thing is i shouldn't say the sad thing but like the funny thing is they have this they have this ethos of there's no truth but power right in their mind they're like so they can steal whatever they want because all that matters is you just you exert your power the problem is that's a pogo i didn't want to come back empty handed so i got this i just brought this to show off are you gonna show us so you could you go up the mountain like with one of these no it's also filthy so keep that thing away from me get out of here kellen did say check um let's see where he said did he really ask if you could go up the mountain with that shells by the door to the warehouse that's what i said yeah it says by door by the door look there's like black there's like black briefcases you might find it in there or a box you know uh but yeah the point is these people believe there's no there's no there's no truth but power and so they're like so i can steal right the problem is they're too stupid to get away with it you know yeah i mean the the you know the the whole like uh the whole woke two woke one was crazy thing that that you're talking about um i think that actually speaks to what what tim was talking just mentioned the whole there is no truth but power right like they're not looking to change any of their actual you know the things that they want they're just looking to change the narrative surrounding them so they want they say oh woke one was bad but woke two you know woke one was kind of crazy and we went a little overboard they haven't changed any of the policies that they're talking about they're still going to be calling them out they're still going to be calling everyone racist what have they changed nothing not a single thing they're still for defunding the police yeah there is not a policy that they have actually said we don't support that anymore you know you know my only problem with this story they did not arrest more people yeah i mean it would be cool if they were arrested i don't know she's been arrested she's been charged they say that she's 59 years old of palm springs wire fraud conspiracy conspiracy to submit false statements to a federally insured bank yeah they made what did they what did they did one of their one of their organizations their their proxies was called the cia yeah center intelligence or something it was something like that yeah it was like a same acronym yeah here's the black playing thing about it right because splc was using donor money that they were funneling to the kkk and other things and so like you're you're a citizen that thinks they're like supporting an organization that's fighting against racism and the kkk and stuff like that and you like you find out that your very dollars are the ones going to the thing it's supposed to go against like keeping the dream alive i know i know it's like like who is involved with the kkk these days except for the people being funded by these programs there just wasn't enough racism to act to go around so they have to create it they had you know they they went and they said all these other things all these things are are racist dog whistles and these are racist symbols and you know the okay sign is a racist symbol because of a troll from from 4chan um there were people that were saying you know there are people still saying that the jerusalem cross is a white supremacist symbol like this is the jerusalem cross it's it's it's on the floor of the chapel that uh i think that not chapel the the church that joe biden there's a picture of joe biden in the church with it with the jerusalem cross on the floor like this is not in any way a racist white supremacist symbol but they need to prove to convince people right that the things that were you know 15 minutes ago were totally normal they need to convince people that these are actually now racist symbols so that way you can give us more money so that way we can go and find more racist symbols and it's it's just a uh you know it it's just a never-ending circle of or never-ending cycle of them basically finessing money out of people that want to feel virtuous that that's you want to make sure that they're like we hate racism even though the united states is one of the least racist countries on earth we hate racism so we're going to give you more money they get you give them money they go and find more racism and then they say look we found all this racism you got to give us more money it's just a you know a cycle of finessing people no luck no look body armor but no chainsaw a bunch of cool stuff down there but no i didn't find it i'm disappointed there's so many things to look through i was like this chainsaw looks cool this body armor is amazing what are these thoughts splc funding the kkk what what did new news break about it yeah she was the person in charge of the splc was arrested Or at least indicted, I think. Charged. Charged, there you go. The charge is inevitable if they're really, like what were they, were they illegally funding the KKK? That's the name, I guess. Well, you know, they were taking donations to fight racism and they were giving it to racist organizations. Freakish, that's like the Antifa window repair people. They go break windows at night and then the next day they show up to fix your windows. Yeah. I was just telling him it's just a cycle. They convince people that don't want to be thought of as racist, that think racism is the worst thing in the world. They convince those people that there's a bunch of racism out there and that the SPLC is going to expose it. They convince them to give them money. They take the money. They go and they give it to racists and they give it to organizations that are allegedly racist or whatever. And then they say to the people, look, there's all these other racist people that we found. Give us more money. And it's just a never-ending cycle. It's a never-ending cycle. Didn't they find that SPLC was also funding the Charlottesville stuff that happened? It's just like such a convenient narrative, especially now that the bottom is kind of falling out and most of the political violence we're seeing in the U.S. is by ostensibly left-wing groups and individuals. And being able to point back like, oh, well, actually look at these far-right racist extremists doing these things that actually turn out to be funded by the very leftists that are perpetrating a lot of the other violence. It's kind of nuts. It wouldn't surprise me to find that the liberal economic order has been. Confunding insurgent, fear-based campaigns with the KKK, with other race-based groups, with any kind of power dynamics they can find that they would get in there, put their finger on the scale, and freak people out and just terrify the American people because that's the way. The only way to overthrow the United States is from within. It's the only way. The military is too strong. So it would not shock me at all to find out that big money, USAID money, has been pouring through these guys to keep this tumult rolling in the U.S. as we. Yeah. kind of move towards a new world order. Right. It kind of reminds me of this story. I don't know if you guys saw this a few years ago, but the Kremlin was funding these green activist groups in Germany to advocate against nuclear power and natural gas. And especially nuclear, obviously, is like the greenest source of energy possible. Yeah. They were directly funneling them money so that Germany would shut down all of their reactors and then rely on Russia for natural gas. And it's like. One of the things that you see is like, whether it's Russia in that case or the left in this. In this particular case, it's like your opponents are often so much more prepared and actually like creative about the ways that they're going to screw you than you think you are, than you think they are. And so you got to be so much more vigilant than we are. And I think being able to trace this stuff, that's one of the things I think the Trump administration is doing so well right now is like you need a certain minimum level of ruthlessness in going after these people. And I think there's always been this like mindset of like, ah, nah, they wouldn't do that. Like, that's too crazy. Like the left funding the KKK? Nah, that would never happen. And then like literally it is happening. Like being able to like ruthlessly. Ruthlessly expose that, I think, is just like absolutely critical. I'm looking it up now, but you know, Vladimir Lenin, the guy who led the Bolshevik revolution of USSR, spent a lot of time in Germany. And people, I believe, I remember learning that he was like sent by the, like instructed by the Germans, funded by the Germans to go back to Russia and do this thing. I just want to confirm that that's true. But he spent a lot of time in Germany before he was exiled from Russia. And then he spent time in Germany and they got him fired up and sent him back or he went back. I mean, it's the same way that the Cubans trained all these operatives across South America and then like literally trained them to infiltrate governments, including the U.S. governments. Like there's 100% Cuban spies within the U.S. government. These are people just been trained and we've never like been strong enough to actually try and like uncover this. We're just too naive. Yeah, yeah. Lenin was in exile and was sent back to Russia by the Germans in 1917, essentially to overthrow the Russian empire. It worked. They deliberately permitted Lenin, this is the German government, and a group of Russian revolutionaries to cross Germany by train. Bro, this has been happening since the dawn of man. It's a false flag operation. If you're funding what you're, say you're up against, you're, I guess they call it false flag because it's literally they're waving a flag. You're flying a fake flag. Right, but in this, so it's a hyperbolic or metaphoric false flag, but it's ancient technique to fund your enemy and then say, hey, look, there's an enemy joining. Almost like a Trojan horse, you know? Yeah, kind of. Kind of? Well, the Trojan horse was, we snuck inside their base, but this is, I mean, it's a way to get people to attack from within. Right. Oh, man, I'm on high alert against it right now. Against the Trojan horse? Yeah, against these kinds of behaviors with the media telling us to think things and credit scores. Yeah. Think of all the ways they manipulate us with numbers and entertainment. Well, I mean. Credit scores are fake. Yeah, so that's like the social, it's one step away from a social credit score. It is a social credit score. Credit scores don't track credit worthiness. It tracks whether or not you are in debt. So in order to have a good credit score, being rich doesn't guarantee you have a good credit score. Having a lot of debt that you maintain gives you a good credit score. So you could make $50,000 a year, have 10 credit cards, and you're paying the minimum on each of them. Good credit score. Yeah, they want you to be in debt, which is crazy. That's the false flag. That's the Trojan. Like, you think the economics, the people at the top would want you to not be in debt so that the economy could be healthy, but they want you to maintain debt and interest payments so that they can keep siphoning off the interest and then keep you, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, look, you're definitely buying a credit score, right? If you have a, so you, but the point of it is, isn't just do you pay your, pay debt off? Is it, it's can you manage your debt? Right, if you take on debt, can you manage? But it's, do you have a lot of debt? And do you pay, do you pay it regularly? If you have little debt, you have a bad credit score. And you know what bothers me when I go to make my payments? Because I have no debt. Right, well, I mean, yeah. There's an option for payoff balance in total. I'm like, why don't they let me leave? That's bad for your credit score. No, you want to leave money in the credit card, which is stupid. We need, you know what we need to do? That should be illegal. So New York actually has a funny human rights thing that I was reading about earlier today that you can't discriminate employment based on credit score. based on credit score. So jobs used to run your credit to see if you had a good score and then New York City made it illegal. I don't know if I agree with that, maybe. But it certainly shouldn't be allowed that your credit score can be impacted negatively by paying your debts. Yeah. You need to overhaul the credit scoring system and it should literally just be the more debt you have, the worse score you're in. The worst, the more debt you have, the worst, worse your score is. Debt to income ratio. Yeah, I think that, I think it's a little too simple that way. Because your debt to income, if you have like a lot of income and you have some debt, it's not a problem. And also, I do think that you're, you know, if you can make, if you're not, if you're making payments. I disagree. The idea that, the idea that billionaires can take out a $10 million loan and then, and then use that loan at a lower interest rate than the interest rate generated from their bank accounts and from their stock. Yeah, bad credit score. Okay, that, okay, that's. You have $10 million in debt, your credit score is zero. Yeah, I'm talking about for like the average person because there's, you know, there's only billionaires in the country. But the issue is, the reason why it never works is because let's say Elon Musk took out a $10 million loan against his stock, putting his credit score to zero, won't matter. Elon Musk walks into a place and says, I want to buy it. They're going to say, done. Yeah. Because, because he's got so much assets. Because they know who he is. Yeah, yeah. But the idea that a working class guy says, I think it's a bad idea to have credit cards. You should only spend what you earn. So they give him a bad credit score. They give him a bad credit score and now he can't get a loan for a house? It is, that's heinous. He's got no debt. He's going to be fine. He's got a good job. He can prove his income. What's the credit score? Get three credit cards and put a little bit of debt on all of them and then just pay off the minimum and keep debt on three credit cards. So I don't know how much interest I've paid over the decades, but like what a stupid system. Well, you're paying, you're buying your credit score is what it ends up being. Yeah, I'm paying to play their game. Yes. But don't you only pay the interest if you go in arrears, like you're not paying it on time? You got to pay at least your statement balance. Right. And there's a monthly interest accrual. If you don't, if you have a balance, it'll give you like 6%. I mean, really, you want to keep your credit card below, like the way they say it is they want, you want to keep your credit card below like 25% of whatever your max is. So if you got like 10 grand, you'd put $1,000 on there, keep it on there, pay, you know, pay a little bit, put something on it, pay a little bit, keep it below $2,000. That way they're getting their little, you know, cut of your income and that will be, you know, that'll go, that'll make your credit score go up. To iterate, the reason I brought up credit scores is because this is an instance of like the SPLC funding the KKK. These people are supposed to oversee our economy and yet they're intentionally instructing people to go into debt, which is the stupidest technique to make a good economy. Well, I mean, debt isn't inherently always bad, right? Like debt is, you can use debt to, you know, to start a business, to do things, to buy a house. So it's not inherently always bad. Getting too much debt, yes, that's bad. And you can, people can very easily get in over their heads. The credit card company is giving an 18-year-old a $15,000, $20,000 credit limit. That's almost predatory in my opinion. But like just the concept of debt, in my opinion, like it's not always bad. Like there are times where debt is, you know, it can be a good thing. Yeah, you could take a loan and then invest it in some product and then triple your money and then pay back the loan with the use of debt. Companies use loans to pay, to pay for, you know, a lot of things. If you have to invest a million, dollars into a company right you take a loan out for the million for a million and a half because you've got people that you have to pay that are on top of whatever your cost for the building is and you'll use that kind of debt to cover your your payroll and stuff like that but because businesses don't just automatically start producing money you'll use that that leeway that the debt gives you until your business starts actually producing revenue and that's a normal thing you know what do you guys think of things like loan sharks right like short-term 30-day loans but that's predatory really high pawn shops predatory yeah the problem with that is it's a guaranteed cycle of destruction for the individual yeah if you are in need of a quick loan at a high interest rate you ain't paying that loan back yep yeah so like payday loans are a terrible thing yeah yeah like you're backlogged and it's going to keep backlogging and then eventually you're going to implode should we bear with you uh i don't i don't know if i know enough about uh the the uh economics of short-term loans to advocate for a banning of it i might be open to that because like usury was i mean i think it was punishable by death at points of history because that's like charging what's that in the old testament yeah in the old testament charging exorbitant interest on loans basically and the christians were like we're not going to do it anymore in the in the bible the jews were charging exorbitant interest rates in the in the it was like an ethos of christianity was like it's not ethical to do that so it is interest rates are a good thing in the loan and like 100 interest rate no no no no one ever said that i mean that's bad business my point is what if they're desperate you know i've got i i work really hard and i trade a bunch of uh you know birdhouses and end up getting a bunch of gold and i'm like wow i finally have all this gold you come to me and say i have a really good idea for better birdhouses but i just don't have the gold right now and it's going to take me a year to get it i say wait wait hold on what if i give you 10 gold pieces but you pay me back 11 that's interesting but that's i think that's not usury 10 interest is reasonable 100 would be like i'm pretty sure usury is just any interest on a loan yeah i mean so so like the the what in lending money at extremely high or unfair interest okay i understand there's like a specific like form of usury that's like exploitative which i don't think your example obviously right no okay then i then i agree with you credit cards shouldn't be 25 30 like that's crazy but like the and i don't think the fed should be setting interest rates either like i don't think the fed should be setting interest rates like i think that should be some uh a that's something the market should do because all an interest rate is is the cost of money it's just another price right you go to the store you'll get the price of bread that's how much the bread costs you go down the street maybe the bread's a little cheaper you you get about you know you'll get an e of a general equilibrium in an area like a certain you know era like in a state or in a town or whatever most of your bread is going to be about the same most of your eggs are going to be the same if they're the same quality right so interest rates are just another price it's just information this is how much it's worth me giving you money that i already have you have to pay me like you need to price and risk right like that's that's the main thing um yeah i think there comes a point where it's so exploitative that there probably needs to be some intervention there yep on average like the economy would implode if you can charge interest for yeah the things that you do because nobody would lend money to anyone and then and any anytime you give the government which the federal reserve is part of the part of the government you know the way that the way that it operates even though it's technically not um anytime you give that kind of power to manipulate interest rates to decide what the interest rate should be you're giving them uh the ability to basically fix a price and you know generally you don't want the government setting prices for things because the market does a better job than the government does if there was a government can't do it yeah if it was like an automated system that automatically changed and shifted based on whatever the market economics it wouldn't be it wouldn't fire hose that opens and closes on its own no it would be just it would be just like any other price so like prices aren't set by like no one it's not a command there's no no government agency saying this has to be this much and this has to be that much if a business says we're going to sell this bread for five bucks and the business down the street says i will sell that bread for three bucks because i can you know cover the cost and cover my expenses for significantly less than this store does and then this store doesn't sell that bread the same thing with money if this bank is saying we'll lend you interest at we'll lend you a hundred thousand dollars at ten percent interest and then there's a a bank down the street that says i'll lend you that same money for seven percent interest that's the same kind of price but the problem is when the federal reserve loans the money to the banks it's only one choice that's why i'm saying that the fed shouldn't be deciding what the interest rate is who would decide the feds in the market well the fed the fed shouldn't be in that business at all you don't think the federal reserve should be accruing interest no i agree with you no it there should the market should decide what the price of money is not the federal reserve let's jump to the story from the independent desperate u.s sailors trying to jump overboard on extended middle east deployment families say yikes concerns have been raised about conditions on board the u.s's abraham lincoln with claims of food shortages and sailors mental health struggles this story's been ongoing for some time we've we've heard that there's been potential sabotage because they just keep them on this deployment they say the aircraft carrier crewed by about 5 000 has been deployed since november 21st but more lately has been supporting u.s military operations in the war with iran the deployment has been expected to end in may but has been extended with no current return date annabelle loma the wife of a sailor serving on the on the abraham lincoln told the publication her husband is now on medical hold after trying to jump from the carrier he's scared he thinks he'll get a dishonorable discharge and just because he was burnt out his 13-year-old career is ruined just like that she said she's trying to put on a happy face for her children maria rodriguez another sailor's wife says that her husband prevented another man from jumping overboard rodriguez told the military times her husband held the shipmate's arm and hauled them onto the deck with three other sailors eventually running to help i suppose the question is uh this ongoing conflict with iran it's not going well and i don't you know we've talked about the the the overt intention seems to be the closure of the strait of hormuz to cut china off from their energy but this has no end in sight and just keeping this carrier out there with these dudes and extended deployment ain't gonna work no so what's the end result of this do we end up burning out what little we have we're running out of precision missiles trump says no we've got ammo it's fine but it doesn't seem like we're winning this the question is why uh we're not winning because the the the people or the the irgc isn't going to give in to just air you know the the kind of airstrikes they've been doing i've heard people talking about that after the f-15 got shot down trump got kind of cold feet because he doesn't want that kind of he doesn't want to lose anybody anybody if he can if he can avoid he doesn't want to lose any any serviceman right and so now they're not running the same kind of strikes you haven't heard about sorties over iran in in ages and ages you know i think it's been a couple months they're doing you know cruise missiles if they do strikes or they're doing stuff like that but you're not hearing about b2s you're not hearing about raiders going over you're not hearing about uh any kind of significant strikes at all and i think that a lot of it has to do with the fact that trump got cold feet after the f-15 pilot got shot down there was there was obviously it was a great rescue mission and that they managed to get him out and and there were no casualties and on the american side for that and that was a really ballsy raid to do but if if trump doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to put people in harm's way anymore because of the fact that i think like 15 or or so people have passed have died just from iran strikes it's not going to be solved like they're not going to get the irgc out of power by just lobbing a couple missiles that are in yeah i mean i think this is essentially unwinnable just because the there's a huge asymmetry of pain tolerance right like the iranians are able to like take a lot right and irgc doesn't really care what's what happens to a lot of people and they're willing to just do whatever it takes to stay in power we've got like sailors jumping overboard and that like the the the pressure on trump and like the accountability to the american people is just a completely different political context and in which iranians are operating so it's kind of a lose-lose situation from that perspective yeah i mean look the the u.s has plenty of uh jdams right they've got plenty of dumb bombs they can put guidance packages on them right but they're using long-range cruise missiles and that's what iranians are doing and they're using long-range cruise missiles and that's what iranians are doing and these are expensive weapons that you know take a lot of time to produce they're they're not like you can just go ahead and and start pumping them out they they just don't have the capacity to do that and it's part of the reason why i say that we should be making the things that we need here in the united states we shouldn't be outsourcing chips we shouldn't be outsourcing anything to other countries we should have the infrastructure in the united states to produce all of the stuff that we need weapons that we need and the things that that are high tech that that we have to outsource to other countries we should move those industries here to the u.s but if if the government or if the the administration doesn't have the nerve to continue the kind of sorties they did in the beginning then it's going to be a stalemate and i think trump's just looking for a way out now and i think the straight at hormuz is probably the the sticking point like he wants the straight open because the saudis are concerned about it and stuff and iran doesn't have any reason to make a deal with the u.s as long as the u.s isn't applying significant pressure and by significant pressure i mean sorties over iran dropping bombs but look after the whole debacle with that girl school that that the u.s allegedly struck i don't think that the administration has the the the desire to keep up the the sorties the kind of uh sortie tempo that would actually put pressure on the irgc it resembles a siege in fact you might call it a siege like a middle middle a siege from the middle ages where you surround a city cut them off from incoming water and food so you starve the population they eventually surrender both parties of the siege suffer the sieging army sits out there and gets dysentery and waits and waits and waits and gets sicker and sicker and wants to go home and the people in the city starve slowly until one of them gives up but in this instance we're not cutting off their food and water we have like a half-hearted siege in the water area of iraq of iran that's not a real siege it was it was poorly planned hurriedly executed initiated by the israelis and it's like i i think they'll look at it as the greatest american military blunder no it's pretty horrible what was worse iraq yeah we won in iraq iraq we own iraq now it's a puppet state yeah but it cost how many lives to do trillions of dollars seven completely how long stabilized 11 years and seven trillion but i mean this is an unwinnable we've we've cut off the head of a fervent beast it's no we killed the the wife and and father of the the leader of the country like this is okay so in the future you there could be considerable changes that would make this the greatest blunder but this right now as of right now it's just it's a bad policy blunder it's not nearly as damaging as iraq was i don't even think there's a it's not nearly it's not nearly as damaging as iraq was it's not nearly it's not nearly as damaging as iraq was it's not nearly as damaging as iraq was it's not nearly as damaging as iraq was it's not nearly as damaging as iraq was it's not nearly as damaging as iraq was it's not nearly it's not nearly as damaging as vietnam was vietnam is probably the vietnam or iraq too are probably the worst blunders i mean as of right now okay you know i hope it's vietnam will be go down as the worst american blunder i hope you know but this is like an unwinnable i don't even know it wasn't even started by our military it's so bad that we're there it's it's it's winnable it's just they're not willing to do what you need to do to win a war like that right they're gonna execute seven million i think the iranians posted out hey if the americans decide to use nukes on any city in iraq every american military base will be there's no need to use nuclear weapons right but they were saying that and then the next day trump's like hey iran the irgc has nothing they're useless they have no they'll all bark no bite i'm paraphrasing so like you're getting two extremes from both governments the propaganda is just vapid at this point i don't believe either of them it's they don't have a military goal i don't know what the goal of the campaign is to get them to surrender and it's like closing the strait of hormuz yeah but you would need to take their leadership out to accomplish that no they've had the straight form was closed for months yeah so right now the estimate all the straight in just for just for context the estimate of deaths in iranian of iranians um range from 3500 to 6000 um so that yeah that's bad obviously that's bad but you know iraq had you know up to half a million a million people died because the iraq war wasn't americans i have no idea how many vietnamese died so this is bad but like this is not this doesn't approach iraq or vietnam it doesn't even it's not even in the ballpark to be fair we both look at both those wars in hindsight as well they were 10-year campaigns we just this just started eight months ago yeah i mean like one of the biggest criticisms that republicans had of our handling of the ukraine war right was that there's there's no clear plan for usa there's no clear plan for u.s involvement to have a war with iraq and they're not going to have a war with helping an end to the war i feel like it's kind of a repeat of that here it's like we launch this thing and there's like no clear end in sight there's no clear understanding what the actual plan is like what is a winning scenario we don't know and so like the very thing that our side was criticizing the biden administration for is kind of the same trap we walked into and then trump's between a rock and a hard place right because he like doesn't want to do what it would take to actually win a war like that but also he doesn't want to be known as the president that backed down from the iranians in a war that he started right so i i don't really know where where he goes with this especially with the midterms coming up but it sure doesn't look pretty no because if a troop if the soldiers are considering mutinying and diving off the aircraft carrier which by the way is kind of insane like we haven't really talked about that but like jumping off an aircraft carrier into what to die yeah you're also like why why like i can understand being frustrated like all that kind of stuff but why like why not just stay put like why would you be jumping off an aircraft carrier maybe he had a psychotic break like the troops in these positions have got it because they've been deployed for for like a year now and they're yeah but she's saying it's a 13-year career and like sitting on an aircraft carrier that was the reason he jumped over like that seems maybe it's the psychology of what they've been doing to the iranians which is like why are we even here if they if they get an inkling that the israelis started it and now they're stuck there like that would be just destructive for morale on the boat i would imagine um and they're they're going home in may and now it's july are they not rotating these guys at all august sounds like they're not that's that seems to be the issue yeah they need to bring that is crazy as well i mean look and you know the thing is there the u.s has i think 11 carrier strike groups the abraham lincoln doesn't have to stay there indefinitely they can send another strike group out you know um so i'm not exactly sure why the lincoln has stayed there for as long as it has um but yeah if if morale is getting that low it's time to to you know relieve that that carrier and get another carrier the problem is if you relieve them then that just shows the next round of troops that go over there if we make a scene they're going to relieve us too and you can't let that happen in the military i don't think that that is actually i mean the russians would shoot dudes that try to turn around they to the front you go like there's no other way than forward yeah but i mean that's the going to the front versus being on an aircraft carrier are very different scenarios right if they're telling you go into the meat grinder in the trenches that's different than you're going to be on a carrier where you're significantly less likely to die right like all the people that have been all the americans that have been killed they've been killed on foreign bases i i don't think anyone's been killed actually shot down i don't think anyone died being shot down over iran there's a couple uh aircraft that have been shot down but um all the people that have died have died in drone strikes from iran if i understand correctly they were on u.s bases in the in the region nobody on a ship has died uh the aircraft carriers are very well defended it's not the same thing being on an aircraft carrier in in the uh you know in the in the gulf or whatever is not the same as going to the the trenches in ukraine sure it's not a desperate situation not the same if they were to relieve these guys and then we sent out another round of dudes and then those guys after time go through the same thing and their deployment gets extended and then they do the same thing you have a hard choice to make as a commander like you can't keep giving into your troops i mean i don't understand why there's not just like a clear rotation schedule where you tell them you're going to be here for six months and then the other guys come in like it just doesn't that doesn't seem like rocket science i think the hardest part for these guys is probably like there's no end in sight we don't know where we're going when we're going to go home so like just put a clear end line and then when the next people come in they know okay six months from now we're going home again yeah i mean it there should be you know like i said i mean the u.s has 11 i think carrier strike groups i'm not i think it's 11 but you know the the it shouldn't be a situation where they're being their deployments being extended they should be being extended and they should be just you know send another carrier out there send another strike group and bring the one that's there back you know especially if morale morale is becoming a problem right maybe it was an oversight you know probably not but being benevolent maybe the military command it's an oversight and they meant to bring these guys back and they probably not but maybe and i have immense amount of empathy for these dudes stuck out there right the u.s has 11 nuclear-powered super carries and acts of service we got big breaking news from earlier today defense in charlie kirk's killing say should not get the dental death penalty he hit the intended target yeah this is absolutely fascinating because they uh released one of their filings today finally we get to see what their defense is arguing and uh they actually argued that he should not be eligible uh robinson should not be eligible for the death penalty because he intended to only kill charlie kirk and successfully did he was unaware that there were minors present and there was no risk to anyone else so kenoko uh kenoko of the great says nowhere in it do his lawyers argue that robinson is innocent that there was another shooter that charlie wasn't shot that the microphone exploded that the rooftop guy wasn't involved that the recovered 30 at six was never fired that the confession messages were fake instead robinson's own lawyers write that his message to his roommate and his partner indicate mr robinson intention to kill charlie kirk they quote him saying he had the opportunity to take out charlie and he did their primary ask is to strike the sole aggravating factor that robinson knowingly created a great risk of death to a person other than charlie without it the death penalty comes off the table they are basically only fighting for one thing to prevent the death penalty and i think it's because the evidence is pretty dang solid now there there is a i believe that there is a potential for conspiracy here and it is because several individuals went online and it seemed and seemed to have foreknowledge of the assassination several vehicles were seen in front of their house these people have not been identified there were discord messages i think that was an issue or messages from some chat i've heard these things were never clarified so why would would just ask this simple question citing the great Alex Jones, Kibono, which means who benefits? Who benefits from the death of Charlie Kirk? Does the right? No. Does Israel? No. The establishment machine does, who is being accused of stealing the election in Wisconsin. They would benefit from Charlie's death. So if you want to believe in a conspiracy, my question is, why run with all of the wackaloon disproven nonsense, or at the very least, impossible to prove nonsense, instead of the deep state killed him? Yeah, it's very possible Tyler Robinson was used or influenced by darker powers. Elaborate. Like people in the Discord chats may have been CIA operatives. I don't know. May have been. May have been government. Or it could just be the leftists kill people. And look, there was hubris and complacency. Now I'm going to say, don't know for sure, but I certainly think it's interesting. The defense is basically saying, look, he did it, but he didn't do what you're accusing him of, so he should not get the death penalty. Where are all the conspirators? Oh, I'm sorry. This proves it. This proves. Well, hold on. Hold on a minute. Candace was arguing that Robinson was a patsy, that he wasn't even there, right? Well, his defense is saying he was. Why? Why not be like, nope, he wasn't there, and we have proof he's a patsy? Why don't they just play her show and be like, look at the evidence? Yeah, I think if you really care about what's going on, you turn down the social media influencers and turn up the courtroom scene and listen to the lawyers. I mean, that's where the evidence is. So apparently, Phil, did you read about the type of 386 round that was used? I didn't. No, I think it was just a standard full metal jacket, right? It wasn't a soft point, I don't think. No, I believe it was a specific round. Let me see if I can find the. I'll have to pull it up. In the preliminary hearings, they made reference to the specific type of round that was used. I don't want to say too much, but we got more information on this. What I will say is that Chris Martinson responds, it's simply as close to impossible as one can imagine that the kill shot was a 386 from the Losey building roof. That's just physics. I have no idea why you're so intent on proving guilt before evidence, but I have my suspicions. Kanekoa says there is evidence, lots of it, stronger evidence than many successful murder convictions. You're ignoring it. Probably because you've been telling everyone it's impossible that Tyler Robinson shot Charlie Kirk with a 386 from the Losey building roof because you made YouTube videos of yourself shooting pork shoulders. He then says, I'm just telling you the physics. If that's not your thing, that's okay. Not everybody had a proper education. Also, steel-framed buildings don't fall at free fall speeds for 2.25 seconds either, just saying. And Kanekoa responds, it looks like you had the wrong. A bit of humility would help. Try not declaring something impossible when you don't have all the data. Are you still pushing the lie about. I'm pushing the lie about Robinson's Discord confession. Can you at least admit you got that wrong? Were you able to find the type of bullet used? It says that it was the round alleged to have been used to kill Charlie Kirk with a 386 Springfield caliber cartridge from a bolt-action rifle. Investigators recovered a Mauser Model 98 rifle chambered for this high-powered ammunition, which contained one spent round and three unfired rounds engraved with messages. Audio forensics confirmed the use of a single supersonic bullet consistent with a high-powered rifle rather than a handgun. I don't think you're reading the court stuff. No, no, I'm just looking at what the AI produced. There was, in the hearing where they showed the bullet, there was an argument that was made. I'm not going to get into what I don't know. Remington Core Lock, that's what I thought it was. Okay. Soft point hunting ammunition, 150 grain jacket soft point load, typical big gang hunting ammunition designed to expand and mushroom an impact for energy transfer as opposed to full metal jacket. The recovered bullet fragment was deformed and damaged to 30. Let me just pull this up. I thought it was a Core Lock, but I wasn't entirely sure, so I don't want to just say things unless we pulled it up. But let me see if we can pull this up specifically. I think they actually. Do they have it here? The Mauser Model. I don't know if this is the right source. No, I think this is the wrong link. Wait. Oh, okay. Phoenix ammunition posted. Oh, okay. The. Post on X, the bullet shown in court today was a Remington Core Lock soft point round specifically designed to deform, slow down, and prevent an exit wound. Yeah. Phoenix ammunition makes bullets. Wow. Yeah. So, again, this came out in the. So, the thing is, every time this stuff comes out, the Kirk'spiracy people just move on and ignore it, like they never brought it up. So, real. Just real quick, Chris Martinson being like, 30-06 can't go through, or it's going to over-penetrate. Then you find out in court, it was a Core Lock soft point Remington designed not to have an exit wound. And you're like, okay. Yeah, Chris, I think he's a good faith actor that has had bad information, because I've seen him do extremely articulate down to the number with COVID. He was super, super right on with COVID and very vocal about it. So, it's very possible that he's just working with bad info. I mean, personally, I know him. He's been on the show, but. This has been. Phoenix ammunition says it's been the most easily debunked claim of their entire web of lies. And it's really mind-blowing, considering that it's exactly what you would choose for an assassination. But, yeah, definitely keep getting all your information from the DEI hire and the Portland pizza boy. I'm sure they know more about this than I do. We've hit Phoenix on the show several times. He's actually gifted us bullets. The Phoenix ammunition. So, he made. What he gifted us were these subsonic competition 9mm rounds. So, they're slow. Bro, listen, I do what I do. I've always done what I've done, because I can't stand when people lie. That's it. From the Covington kids back in the day, before IRL existed, I was like, y'all are lying. And even conservatives. To Chauvin, to the McMichaels and the Ahmaud Arbery case, are you lying? And these conspiracy people with these big channels have been lying the whole time. But you know what? The conspiracy people, the rank and file, the believers, cannot live in a world without threat and fear of a machine. And when the machine was largely defeated by Trump, they've given you the new one. And they lied to you the whole time. So, I was in. One of our security guys that we hired was a former SEAL team sniper. He literally said to me, he's like, it's like a week after it happened. He's like, the moment I saw that video, I was like, that's a 30 out of 6. And I was like, really? And this is before the conspiracy theories. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, man, I wish my wife was filming me when I said it. Because I, you know, I could have been like, boom, I know what this is. Then within like two weeks, they were like, there's no way it's a 30 out of 6. Exploding microphone or some other nonsense. Now, Robinson, who has been described as a patsy by Candace Owens, his defense team is saying, no, he did it. Just don't give him the death penalty. Why doesn't he just come out and be like, no, he's a patsy and we can prove it. Candace has the evidence. I don't know how they're going to reconcile this. They're just going to make things up again. You know, this is what I'll say this. Not that I need to tell Andrew Wilson this, but he's going to do this debate with Candace Owens. She's just going to make stuff up. That's it. You can't win a debate with someone who's intent on lying the whole time. Because when you can make things up, the other person cannot fact check because it is fabricated. And you can't prepare for a fabricated statement. The only outcome is going to be if the person who makes it up is going to be like, you are unprepared if you can't talk about die sign and demon goggles. Oh, speaking of, I have those right here. Indeed. So Andrew's going to need to know exactly what happened in order to confront people that throw lies. Because if you know the truth, lies don't affect you. That's incorrect. They affect you. They just don't change you. Nope. You're incorrect, Ian. What do you mean? Why? You don't know the basic rules? Of debate? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give it to me, Tim. They call it ARC 73. You're not familiar? No. You made something up. You literally think- Caught me on my back feet. That's my point. What are you supposed to say to something I just randomly make up that's not possible to fact check? Right. I could only say that's not true. And I can say, and my response to that is everybody watching knows it's true and you look like a moron right now. And you're going to need real time fact checking, I guess. No, you can't. It's impossible. No, that's facts. Because watch, tell me you want, you fact check and I'll be like, well, unfortunately for you guys, my source is in the government. And if you think I'm going to name my source and get to put in prison, you're insane. But I'm telling you, it's a fact. And if you're not, there's no way you win against someone who's intent on making things up. So in the scenario where the debate's happening, like what's, what's, what's the strategy you should take then? Like at the top, just be like, this is the, this is the playbook and I'm going to call it out every time I see it. And just like in real time, call out every single time. So the first thing I would say is the intention of online blood sports is not to prove a point. It's to build brand value. So for instance, we've had, we, we, we, we don't do blood sports on this show. The some, the few times we had liberals on and it went like got nuts and we're yelling at each other. They become viral clips. I get millions of views and we know it. We don't intentionally chase after that. If we have on a, you know, so it's funny because the other day a clip of me, there's a clip of me and Brian Shapiro yelling at each other and I called him a retard. And someone put a Joe Rogan in the front where Joe, Joe goes, no way. He called him what? And and then it cuts to this show of me and Brian debating which Joe never reacted to it's fake when we do these things it's a rallying cry for the people let me put it like this in in all things political blood sports not debate uh street violence the intention is to strike at a symbol which a group of people believes oppresses them so what you typically get with online blood sports is not a functional debate because debate is boring debate would be I wait for Ian to finish his point and then I say I have a rebuttal to point the first point that you made I'd like to respond your second point Mr. Poole you have 30 seconds exactly boring nobody wants to watch it blood sports is how can I make a layman who's watching feel vindicated so you'll notice a lot of these things in blood sports laughing for no reason because laughter it's like a laugh track right so when Ian says something like you're not allowed to laugh you're not allowed to laugh you're not allowed to laugh I don't I've never heard of this way talking about instead of responding I bust out laughing ridicule that's a tag exactly it's wow you are so unprepared for this insult ad hominem all of these things that don't fly in debate so you got to understand that going into a conversation uh Andrew and Candace the actual goal here is not the facts it's going to be and I and Andrew's really good at this can he present in such a way that the layman passively observing feels he has the upper hand and Andrew is good at this however Candace is either an excellent liar or a true believer I don't think she's a true believer I think she's an excellent liar in which case she will be able to say things quickly and with high wit because she has it where Andrew is going to be between a rock and a hard place so quite literally if in a blood sports I said to Ian tell me about fragmentation of you don't know this how you thought you were going to come into a debate without even google search I wonder if they'll interrupt each other too yeah I wonder yeah all fake well they have a moderator pbd but moderators don't work on blood sports it's just fake so we've talked about this quite a bit too uh because we do the culture war stuff right moderation is not real you know what a moderator can do mute the microphone but when you say please please let's have a point and they'll just keep going it's just not real so I think everyone should expect it's gonna think they're doing it what Friday oh good debate pbd I heard pbd is going to be moderating it or whatever 300,000 is that what it is Andrew Wilson raised $300,000 well no he paid it up front and now he's trying to raise that money back so I will give a shout out to Andrew Wilson because I think this is important for him to strike at this to the best of his ability and he's got to give send go up where he's trying to basically make that he apparently he fronted the money of his own his own personal money and it's great why was there money involved in this I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know because Candace kept refusing he was like 30,000 50 to her yeah and she kept saying no and finally he said 300 he said yes wow that's wild yeah everyone on Rogan's show and yeah yeah and apparently apparently Rogan offered to moderate but Candace said no oh that would have been awesome I I I don't know how much I believe it she posted a one-sided shot a screenshot of her saying like insulting Andrew and then saying she won't do it but uh if if if you know if I have a debate with someone I'm it's it's it's not gonna be blood sports and we also don't invite people on here for the purpose of screaming at each other when we had Brian Shapiro on here last time and people don't like what he has to say and they because he's a he's a he's a he's got Trump derangement syndrome uh I argued with him and I mostly just laughed and tried to make it you know silly and uh then Phil and him were insulting each other and we're like I I'm not interested in playing this fake thing I'll give you another example right like when Lauren Southern and and Kyla Turner and I were like I'm not interested in playing this fake thing I'll give you another example right like when Lauren Southern and and Kyla Turner tried making a fake beef I'm not playing that game not interested guys Kyle Kyle we had dinner in Vegas for two hours we all hung out we were laughing everyone was friends then she tweets that when Lauren tried to confront me I ran and I'm like okay uh don't talk to me ever again I'm not I'm not doing this I'm just I'm a 40 year old man I just had a kid I'm thinking about family I'm not I'm not a child who wants to do whatever this blood sports stuff when I was young and ambitious and willing to throw my my integrity to the side to become famous and rich I would say anything to get clicks and like I I'd rather if we're in a debate about an idea if I'm wrong I'd rather find that out even if it looks like I'm an idiot you're right I'd rather that that gets shown to the people that you're right right it's not good for my brand maybe it is in the long run but it's not good for my pocketbook in the immediate I want you to subscribe to my channel subscribe to me the one thing I will say too is there's a I'm not gonna I'm not gonna start a beef by naming a handful of people but there are some liberals what they do is they will set up fake debates and it'll be a they'll do a phone call or a zoom with someone you can't see and then they'll have a debate with this person for the intention of actually generating clips for both the left and the right so again not naming who these people are but the idea is this you get a friend an actor you plan out your talking points that way you get an own and they get an own the point is however you want the right wing to spam blast the video of your face as the as the other guy on the phone is the right goes we want to get this guy on our show and it builds your profile on the right then the videos you post are you arguing with the MAGA guy and the MAGA guy can't answer the question and then you laugh but you never see who the guy is why because fake it's online blood sports for the for the purpose of generating clips I had a question in this segment about the death penalty do you guys think this guy should if he did it which it seems like he did should he get the death penalty yes yeah I'm the same for a handful of reasons but I think the aggravating factors such as there's a crowd of people there's students there's kids like it is a fact that he created a tremendous risk to everybody the argument that because he only shot Charlie he didn't create a risk to anybody else is wrong because the risk to everybody else was the aftermath potential stampedes panic running one could have crossed out a gun and start shooting in defense and hit somebody else and initially they thought a guy in the crowd jumped up and shot Charlie so what if someone pulled a gun and said that guy screamed he did it what if someone pulled out a gun and started shooting and hit bison so yes and also political assassinations of this nature we have to be as extreme as possible and I'm going to stress this too I'm I'm against the death penalty in general same for for the reason of a system that has a institutionalized mechanism of execution kills innocent people yeah as for the argument to the system we live in what I'm saying is he qualifies for the death penalty under the current laws that we have that being said as well I'm going to stress this too I get people going Tim should you argue against it if you oppose the death penalty uh no my point is I don't go out and protest in the street waving flags I don't care that much I'm just saying I lean towards it's probably bad that Kamala Harris got to decide who lives and dies you know and there are people like that however it's not something I'm so I feel so strongly about that I'm going to protest or call for moratoriums or anything like that but the life of David Gill is a great movie and it's a shame that Kevin Spacey is a weirdo it is you guys see them movie no you gotta see that why the life of David Gill hey don't don't spoil anything but it's good and and like apparently I got like bad ratings like bad reviews it's my favorite movies is David Gill a real guy no it's uh uh just watch it I agree with you I think that the death penalty is warranted if this is real because if you don't execute the perpetrator you will see more like it's it's like a green a yellow light instead of a red light like you want to flash the red light here people stop don't do this again this is why you don't have to put on the red light you don't have to you don't have to sell your body in the night no you don't have to Roxanne I bit I bit hard I've been singing a lot of foreigner lately I love foreigner bro sing right now bro dude foreigners good waiting for a girl like you oh head games oh god cold as ice yeah double vision double vision it's the jam cold as ice is the one you know it's called jukebox hero 2 I know man wow foreigner so good the very best let's just all take a moment talk about how great foreigner is about to come out and talk about how great foreigner is about to come out and talk about how great a rock band is that's my my instagram algorithm is rock bands from the 70s foreigner let's uh let's put your music speaking of instagram algorithms do you remember when the el sayid guy was like oh man like every other picture on my algorithm is like a woman in a bikini or something like that like this is so bad and everyone's like you know you're you like curate your own algorithm but they're wrong they're all wrong because what he said was you spend too much time what he said was I have three staffers who handle my my instagram for me and you spend too much time what he said was you spend too much time what he said was you spend too much time is like some only fans model the algorithm is awful he was literally making the point that his staffers are looking at this yeah and but people are blaming him for it and then additionally uh the meta algorithm is it is it is believed and maybe I don't know the fine tunings of their algorithm about 20 of the content is randomly selected because they're trying to experiment on what you would want to watch more of so if somebody just watches videos of like you know they watch old colombo clips on instagram and they watch them for about a minute even though they're three minute long they're not going to watch them for a minute they're going to watch them for a minute videos instagram's going to go is there something he will watch for longer than a minute so they start randomly throwing in weird things to see if you will and sure enough they eventually stick something then you'll get a guy being like why is every like you'll see a picture of some woman in a bikini and you'll stop to like what is this like why is it my feed boom they got you they're going to show you more of it now everything you're getting for me it's ping pong videos oh and I hate ping pong brutal and I don't watch them is it like robots they did finally stop no did you tell them they didn't stop though they did stop they did they there was a period where every other video was table tennis and I don't watch it I don't know anything about it I don't know the terms for it it, I don't know what the paddle. I don't even know the word for the thing to hit the thing with. And it just spams me, this stuff. The ball. Yeah. It made me so angry. That's weird, dude. I wonder if it's because you're a skateboarder and they just targeted athletes to get you Ping pong? No, it's because they're experimenting with their stupid BS. And it's no longer, is it about what you clicked like on? Now it's about how long it stays on your, they know how long it stays on your. I started getting a bunch of Sopranos clips. Yeah, yeah. I do too. I got The Office. My Instagram is all parenting, or my the band's Instagram, all that remains, Instagram page is just all parenting stuff. They've been sending me a lot of dead baby stuff. Dead baby stuff? Yeah. What kind of dead baby stuff? So there are videos that start off like a good family video and you'll see like a little kid picking up a block and then putting you know, the block in the square hole and the parent going like, yay. So you'll watch, you're like, oh, this is cute. And then all of a sudden it shows a picture, like it'll flash to like a picture of the kid. And then the voice goes, just, and that was the last time I saw my child before they were killed. And then the next three minutes or two minutes is them being like, my child is dead, and every day I'm in pain. And I'm like, ah! And then I'm like, stop showing me this. That's horrific. Yep. If that's true, that's deep state. They're out to get you. What is that? It's because people watch it. Oh, because one day you left it on for too long to see like, what is this garbage? No, because like I said, the first minute is a little kid doing something normal, like riding on a skateboard. And then the next two minutes is the parent explaining how their child is dead and how they're suffering. That's how you hack the algorithm. I hope the developers at Instagram are listening. Yes, there's many tricks in it, including loop videos. I block any channel that's a loop video. You know what a loop video is? It'll start with like, this is the craziest cheeseburger you'll ever see. Then they'll explain it, and then they'll be like, and with two pounds of beef, that's why the. That's how it ends. Like it just stops? That's why. No, because it loops. Because the first line is, this is the craziest. Oh, I see. It tricks people into watching it over and over again. Oh. They should ban those videos. That should be a violation of the rules on Instagram, because it pisses people off to be tricked into watching the video longer than normal, and it's gaming the algorithm to get more views and more traction, and Instagram lets it happen. Oh. We gotta go to your Rumble Rants and tip a chance to smash the like button, share the show with everyone in your life, including your grandfather, your cousins. Your dog. Your dog. Oh, yeah. Look at that. El Jefe Lopez says, I'm just gonna call that F-Democrats. We get the point. Ian, as usual, opening his retarded mouth to prove he is retarded. Thank you so much. Rude. I'm here to slow things down. It's not untrue. Ryu Bakura says, People like Kathy aren't afraid of police. They play this game because rich white liberals crave victim status. It's why you have white liberals feeling the need to walk around with a passport because of ICE. The prison of hoity-toity well. Yep. Mizumori says, A drone with C4 can't occupy a street corner. Correct. And I did say that right afterwards. That's why you need people. Human beings. To be fair, an optimist bot can occupy a street corner. It's true. That's changing the face of warfare. Mitho says, Ian out here forgetting about dreadnoughts. Praise the god, emperor and the omnisia. Oh, got some Warhammer up in this. We're talking. Thinker for Alive says, SPLC in Montgomery, Alabama has a jury trial on October 5th. This is the case regarding. spending money on the field agents marching with torches they hired, which Sleepy Joe said he ran for pres. Yep. Correct. Stormbaugh says, I visited Moscow in 93 and walked by Lennon's corpse in the Red Square. Lennon wanted to ask Ian, what are you. What are you when you are when you aren't? Well, other than me. Hmm. Katoth Swiss says, Hong got 2020'd. Are you alive when you aren't? You're dead. Yep. Is that a question that Lennon asked people or something? No, it was. Forced name changes. I disagree on payday loans. I use them to buy things I can't finance. I do not use them because I'm desperate. I use them because it's convenient. If you're desperate, they will. I don't know what that emoji is. Something you. My way works out okay. No, I. It makes sense. It's better than financing. You're sort of financing, but then when the check just comes in, it just hits them and then, you know, you pay a little bit extra to be able to buy something, you know? Shlippy says, you guys excited for tomorrow? NFA is basically dead outside of destructive devices and machine guns. There are caveats with this so incredibly based. Did you guys. Did you see that. Was it the GOA said that they're going to start selling suppressors without going through the NFA? They're selling them to two members of Congress in the district. Look, there's. In D.C.? No, no, in the. Oh, I was going to be like, whoa! In the district of Texas that this was found. Look, there's a lot of stuff that still needs to get worked. It is very unadvisable to just build your own can tomorrow or go and buy an oil filter and drill a 22 hole in it. That is not a good idea at all. If this is going to stick, the ATF is going to have to work out a bunch of stuff. So, hopefully it does stick. I mean, it's only a couple hours now. It doesn't look like the DOJ is going to try to appeal. It looks like the D.C. is actually going to happen, but Congress sent a letter to the Department of Justice saying, look, this was the intent when we took the tax away. Do not appeal. Really? Yeah, a bunch of Congress people, Riley was one of them, signed a letter. Riley's based. Riley's awesome. Signed a letter. They sent it to the Department of Justice clarifying that when they took the tax out of the big, beautiful bill, the intent was to get rid of, to take silencers, SBRs, SBRs, and any other weapons off the NFA. That was the point of it. So, because without the whole, for the people that don't know, the NFA, you have to pay a tax. The argument has always been that this isn't about registering. This is about making sure that the tax is paid. So, you have to have the stamp to prove that you pay the tax. This isn't about registration. And when you take the taxing power away, there's no constitutional authority for Congress to do this. So, there was no, the case in question, there was no two Second Amendment finding. It was all about the taxing power. The point of getting rid of the tax was to take those things off the NFA. The DOJ has not filed an appeal. Tonight at midnight is when the, is when the, um, when this is supposed to take effect. But that doesn't mean that all of the kinks have been worked out. You're not going to be able to go into a shop tomorrow and be like, I'm buying a suppressor. Brendan Herrera, and I forget who else, they're actually doing the sale. They talk to lawyers. They're doing it because they're in Congress. They're, they've got some insulate, well, Brian's going, uh, Brendan's going to be in Congress. They've got some insulation here. So, so that's technically correct because he won the primary and he's in a, he's in our district. So, it's like he's the guy. But, yeah. And then, this is the thing. It's going to be very difficult, if not impossible, to go after them for doing this. And then once they do, it's going to set a sort of precedent. Yep. And, and, look, it, it does look like the DOJ is going to, is going to say, you know, we're not going to appeal. That means the ATF is going to have to write new rules, right? There's all kinds of stuff. They're going to get rid of Form 1s, Form 4s. You're probably going to end up having to do a 4473, which is the same piece of paper that you, you have to fill out when you actually buy any other firearm. There's going to be, there's going to be a lot of questions. Hopefully the ATF will, will come in, well, you know, when you wake up tomorrow morning or sometime during the day tomorrow, the ATF is going to say, okay, in light of the fact that the DOJ has not appealed this, the ruling of the court stands, here is what the future looks like for these NFA items. I am going to have suppressors on every single gun. It's a great idea to be honest with you. A suppressor necklace. Can you, you can own a suppressor before this? What about, what about, what about foregrip? Six. You just can't put them on? So, what'll happen is, any short barrel rifle will be taken off the NFA, so it'll be treated just like any other rifle. No way. That's what the press is great, but SBRs, let's go! I mean, like, so that means all the worrying about, you know, do you, the length of it, do you have a forward grip, or do you have an angled grip, or what have you, all that stuff goes away. Rifles will be treated the same across the board, so it'll be a situation of you want to buy a rifle, it doesn't matter if it's a ten and a half inch, eleven and a half inch. What about a sawed-off? Sawed-off would be perfectly fine. Because short barrel shotguns will be off. So, again, this is, you don't want to rush out. You want to let the ATF actually give some guidance. They have to change the rules, and they have to clarify what's going to happen. But, it does look like, you know, we've got two hours left until midnight here, it's three hours left until midnight in the specific district where this happened, in the jurisdiction where this actual exhibit was in Texas, so it's central time. Don't rush out. You don't want to break the law and end up screwing yourself. Yeah, but they're going to drag their feet on rules, you know that, right? I don't know, because the ATF director right now is really, really good, and this is the craziest sentence that's ever come out of my mouth. You know, I feel like they're going to be on it, but maybe we can make some phone calls and be like, guys, can you get this moving forward? Because I want to get some SBRs. Yeah, part of the thing that people are saying was an issue before is Pam Bondi was not actually good on these issues. The new AG is pretty good on this stuff. There's rumors that there's been some some arguing in the doj the old guard versus the new guys the new ag is pretty pro 2a and by pretty pro 2a it looks like he's going to say look congress you know what i'm just really excited to do is to you know uh put some stocks on my pistols yeah you know what what i'm excited about is if this goes away i don't have to worry about driving home with an sbr and worry about like driving through uh you know new york or driving through jersey or whatever it's just a rifle if it's locked up i'm fine no worries right now if you if you take an sbr to a different state you actually have to send paperwork to the atf they have to send back an approval because your sbr sbss uh any other weapons those are limited to the state that you're in if you if you like silencers for some reason you can take them over state lines but rifles and and short barrel shotguns you can take one over state lines silencers what okay silencer suppressor oh suppressor okay oh oh yeah that's just some liberal term that's not relevant we're gonna go so we're just as quickly say i asked chachi pg to make me a picture of an sbr and it said it's not allowed because it violates their guardrails yeah we're gonna go to the uncensored portion of the show at rumble.com slash timcast irl so smash that like button share the show with everyone you've ever met in your life follow me on x and instagram at timcast sir would you want to shout anything out no thanks for having me fellas this was uh this was fascinating and uh i think it's to your point about candace owens and whatnot i think we need to figure out how to do a better job on the right of keeping some of these kooks out so yeah do better individuals you do your best that will keep the the the refuse out you're a pillar of light people will look you're like a lighthouse in the dark so shine so bright people can see you i'm ian crossland follow me on the internet at ian crossland follow me on youtube x instagram everywhere else at ian crossland happy to be here phil labonte where can people follow you on the internet i'm on twitter basically the only place i am at chris barnard dl i am phil that remains on twix you can check out my patreon that's also phil that remains the band is all that remains you can check us out on apple music amazon music pandora youtube spotify and deezer don't forget the left lane is for crime carter i'm carter banks you can follow me at carter banks on x at carter banks official on instagram and check out our record label at trash house records on youtube and we'll see you all over at rumble.com slash timcast irl right now thanks for hanging out we'll see you all over at rumble.com slash timcast irl right now thanks for hanging out