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deep into the justine skye lore - ep. 20

This week we're joined by singer, songwriter, actress, and longtime friend Justine Skye. From growing up in Brooklyn and navigating the music industry at a young age to building a career on her own terms, Justine opens up about the experiences that shaped her both personally and professionally. We talk about being bullied in school, the lessons she learned from watching her mom work in entertainment, redefining success, and the moment she realized no one was going to build her career for her. Plus, we revisit how we all became friends—including Vic's infamous vibe check.   0:00 Interview with Justine Skye Begins 4:11 The Start of Summer 6:37 The Virgo Mindset 9:50 Why Justine Hates the Hamptons 12:30 Love Island is Our Sport 15:20 Rapid Fire Game 19:30 How We Met & Vic’s Vibe Check 24:54 The Art of the Mute Button 27:46 Growing Up in Brooklyn, School & Being Bullied 32:23 Lessons from Her Mom & Redefining Success 36:05 Understanding the Industry & Building a Team   Baddie 2 Baddie Phoneline: Need advice only a baddie can give? Have some tea to spill or a story to share? Send us a voice note to be featured on the show: https://www.speakpipe.com/Baddie2Baddie   Follow Better Half: https://www.instagram.com/betterhalfpodcast/?hl=en https://www.tiktok.com/@betterhalfpodcast https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61588018913258 https://www.youtube.com/@BetterHalfPodcast   Follow Stas: https://www.instagram.com/staskaranikolaou/?hl=en https://www.tiktok.com/@stassiebaby?lang=en https://www.youtube.com/@Staskaranikolaou   Follow Vic: https://www.instagram.com/victoriavillarroel/?hl=en https://www.tiktok.com/@victoriavillarroell?lang=en https://www.youtube.com/@victoriavillarroel   By submitting a voice message, materials, or story, you understand and agree that your submission may be featured on this podcast. You grant Better Half with Stas & Vic a non-exclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, worldwide license in any and all media to use, edit, publish, and distribute your audio submission and any related name/information in our podcast episodes, videos, and promotional materials across all platforms. You represent and warrant that the content you submit is solely owned and controlled by you, that you have the right to grant this permission, and the permission of no other person is necessary for our use. You acknowledge your voice message, story, and materials shall not defame, disparage, invade the privacy of, portray in a false light, or violate the rights of any person. You will indemnify and hold harmless Better Half and its parent corporation, partners, producers, and talent (including Stas & Vic) from any claims or damages that arise from our use of your submission. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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everyone gets the shoes they want i get great prices and we can cross one more thing off the back to school list that's a parenting win in my book right now it's bogo buy one pair get one half off at famous footwear shop in store to get ten dollars to spend this fall some exclusions apply plus join famous rewards to get their best benefits including free shipping that's the sound of lowe's labor day savings get up to 45 off select major appliances and save up to an additional 100 on select laundry pairs plus get three bags of miracle grow 0.75 cubic foot garden soil for just ten dollars labor day deals are on now at lowe's in store and online bella through 99 while supplies last selection varies by location see lowes.com for more details soil offer excludes alaska and hawaii okay guys hi welcome back today we are joined by our drunk friend i'm kidding i'm kidding today we're joined by our longtime friend one of our favorite people justine sky okay so i am a little bit tipsy we're a little tipsy because you guys made me i made her first of all you were supposed to order dinner like a million times but she didn't we were we it was really the challenge where they like uncomfortable they were just it was really making out no they were like sucking each other's feet it's just too like not even the toes it was like the foot oh like it was in between the toes okay guys i can't it's like i'm drunk and i'm gonna throw up okay anyways let's go back to the takes another sip so most people know her as a singer songwriter actress okay guys i'm gonna throw up okay anyways let's go back to the same answer sometimes we throw some cucumber in there sometimes we'll have white wine oh yeah that's true i almost wanted to do the wine i almost wanted to do the wine but then i was just like when i'm with stas and vick i just got to do the vodka yeah just go for the hard liquor because you're normally a tequila girl i know but you like both reason i do like both like i would never take a vodka shot that just feels like i'm taking like like rubbing alcohol not no not in but it's easier to hide than the tequila shot it is like if you chase it with something oh no but i don't chase my tequila shots oh i just like the smell of tequila like thinking about the smell well that's because like it's our childhood well not our childhood no it is it is our childhood we grew up on that tequila we did we did it's our childhood no we drink enough tequila from 21 to 24 that you should have probably in a lifetime 23rd 23 my 23rd birthday not even no i was mrs cuervo when i was 15 in the island that's what i'm saying i've been drinking when i lived in toronto bego when i learned to drink and play and dance soca at the same time and i was 15 so yeah it was over here 15 that is insane anyways how's your summer been justine has summer actually officially well guys wait summer on it started two days ago what's today oh my god happy summer happy summer happy summer happy summer happy summer happy summer happy summer it's finally summer we're summering but to be honest i feel like i'm really exhausted already i mean we've been like summer's just well you're about to be touring which we'll get into i know yeah i am so that's why i think i feel like i want everyone else's summer to be over because i'm gonna be on the road yeah on the road again but it's gonna be exciting yeah of course it is i haven't performed in like years yeah we need to get it done to get into that we're gonna get into it we're gonna dive deep yeah deep into the justin skyler lore skyler guys this is probably the most unserious like what i don't think it's gonna be really hard for us to be serious with justine because if you guys don't know me well me and justine together is like a lethal combo it is double just like justine brings out an energy of me and vic where it's like we are crazy or our craziest self with you no i was we are why do you think that i don't know but we were somewhere the other night where were we oh i think when we were at living room oh no i think it was before that i don't know we go we're it's a lot but we were somewhere and i was talking to someone and i was just we were like away from each other the whole night we weren't like actually like hanging we were in the same space but we weren't hanging out with each other and i was like me and stas really can't be near each other like it's it's okay that she's over there because like if we actually like lock in we're gonna be like in the same space but we weren't hanging out with each other like where it's like for the night it's over for everyone yeah it is it's over for everyone i have witnessed it many times if it always escapes if i go out with two of them i will always most likely leave them at a certain time and i will most likely wake up and find them together at stas's house and find my friends which is when i know it was a late night and then i know they'll work they'll wake up and facetime me and give me all the details yeah that's usually how it goes but but you're like queen of like leaving the room and then you're like okay i'm gonna leave the room and then you're like okay i'm gonna leave the room and then you're like okay i'm gonna leave the room queen i mean earlier like three no yes it just depends i love to be out but my i just feel embarrassed coming in so late with my boyfriend sometimes it just depends i play it i balance it yeah right anyways it's not about me this episode yeah let's go back to justine okay so it's carter's birthday you guys happy birthday carter are you a big birthday person justine no i actually wasn't you know that one birthday that we did that you kind of like did with me which one at that oh yeah that was like the first time that i didn't cry on my birthday really i don't want to cry now but it was like but it was like from like laughing no it was like that was because i get emotional on my birthday because i feel like I don't know. I feel like when it's your birthday, you expect people to love you so much. Yeah. And then every little thing that doesn't go your way, you get like a bit emotional about because you're just like, God, like on my birthday, too. Well, I think you have like an idea of how you want your day to go. And then when it doesn't and you have that high expectation of it. So I never liked to like throw parties for my birthday or anything. Also, because so many of my friends have like birthdays around my birthday. So it's just like, damn, like everyone's either tired because of this person's birthday the day before or like whatever. And so that birthday, like Stas made me feel so special. What birthday was this? You left early. Where was it? Under this? Yeah. Under 1-0? Yeah. Is that when I got my cyst removed? Oh, yeah. You did have to leave. You guys, I had surgery. Like I couldn't drink. And that weird guy was talking to me. I don't know if you guys remember that weird. Oh, my God. And he tried to follow you out when Carter was harassing. And I was like, guys, I think there's like a hair. There is. I can see it. Oh, my God. I love supervision. I saw the hair like stuck on her eyelash. Why didn't you tell me? It wasn't bothering you. She liked it. It was tickling her. You're just going to have the whole video. Every comment. You know, she has a hair on her. I don't think anyone's going to be able to see it. I like have the vision through your glasses. OK. But yeah. So that birthday was very special. And it honestly got me. It got me excited for my birthdays. Like after that, after that, I felt like really amazing about my birthday because I stopped expecting so much from people. And then just like even if there's like that Ibiza birthday when I turned 30, which was like normally you're like 30. Like this is a big, big shebang. I was like, I just want to be in Ibiza, which is like my favorite place. And there was like 15 people at my birthday party. And for some reason we had like the whole spot and we just like had a DJ. We were just. Going crazy. The 15 of us. And then we went to we went to high and saw Black Coffee DJ. And I was in the DJ booth. So fun. That's so fun. And Julius was in the DJ booth. And I was like, Julius, if you're here, then who's watching Beyonce? Who's Julius? Beyonce's bodyguard. I didn't understand until she mentioned Beyonce. If you're here, then who's watching me? Like, sorry if I just exposed you, but like who was watching me? He couldn't miss Black Coffee. Right. He couldn't. No, but he has to have fun too. He has to have fun too. Is Black Coffee always at Ibiza? He has like a residency there or something? Because we've seen him there in Ibiza. Yeah, we have. In Ibiza. In Ibiza. Ibiza. I think that. Yeah. I mean, I feel like all the big DJs like that's like. The. That's like. The spot. Yeah. That's like DJ heaven. You guys are going to go to the Hamptons soon, aren't you ladies? We are. I hate the Hamptons. You do? I had so much fun when I went. Me too. We had fun. I mean, I don't know. I'm also like from New York. I'm from New York, guys. We couldn't wait to leave. We like. We're dying to leave. But yeah. I feel like when we have too much fun somewhere, we're like, we want to go home. We're ready to leave. Yeah. Okay. So why? Well, I think it's like because I'm from New York as well too. So it's not like that exciting to me. Right. I prefer Martha's Vineyard over. I've never been. Like, it's kind of like this. It's like the same vibe, but there's more of like community, I guess, there. I feel like the Hamptons is very bougie. And it's very like, if you don't have like a bajillion dollar house, like there's this and that. There is like a. But also, I guess just like there's no service out there for one. So that really pisses me off. Because like, yeah, there's no phone service and there's just nothing to do. And like, it's just a bit stale. You're not like super excited about it. I think you're like no shade. But you go to like that one place. What is it? The Shore Club or something? The. We went. We went. And we. I mean, I did have a time. We had a blast. Crazy fun. No, I had fun there, too. So much fun. But that's because like Cajun Auto was DJing. So like. Surf Club or something. Oh, Surf Club. Oh, gosh. Surf Lodge. They have it in Aspen. Yeah, the Aspen. Yes. We got there. Yeah. The three of us. Surf. No. Shore Club. Anyway, it's just also like the last time I was there, I had a very traumatic experience because like there was like a demonic house. What? That everyone was in. What? And I was just like, who the fuck's demonic house is this? Were you in it? Yeah. And like I was like, OK, I'm like, I'm just going to go to sleep. Like because like it was just like a late night and I was like, I need to go to sleep because I can't like drive back right now. And how did you get home? Because there's no. Because was there Uber? What the fuck? No, I drove. I drove there, but I was like, it's really late. Like, yeah, I shouldn't like drive back right now, whatever. So I was like going to sleep and there was like a code on the door and the code on the door was 666. And I was like, I have to get out of here immediately. Like, I don't care what's going on. Drink a black coffee. Shout out black coffee. And then I drove home. I was like, I'm up. I'm stuck. And I got to go. I'm up. I'm stuck. And I got to go. We should start saying that. OK, well, you guys will have fun, though, anyways. No, we're going to have FOMO. Have FOMO. Yeah, we're going to have fun. FOMO is for me. Little bubbles in there. Yeah, FOMO. Well, you're going to go to a wedding. I'm going to have fun. You were supposed to come with us, but I would have. We're going to have fun because it's me and Stas and Carter. It's going to be so fun. You guys are going to have fun. Yeah, we're fun. 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Justine, we rented out a sports bar yesterday. no we just are so like like i've just been very very happy lately we're so so blessed so like so blessed to just have so many amazing friends who do such amazing things so shout out pedro he has so many different things and establishments that he's opening so it's like it's not open yet but we got to just be like hey we were like a test run yeah we're like a test run we're just like it's called thick men's it's called thick fake months thick man thickies and it's a sports bar it's a sports bar and so it's not open yet but you know we got like i went the other day to watch like one of the games for the world cup and i was like wait pedro like this is a vibe we need to watch love island genius justine costa omor like invite the girl like this is our sport because like i don't exactly like it's our sport that's our sport like i felt how guys felt no watching sports games at the sports bar last night i mean i was going crazy screaming doing like yeah yeah this is the best thing we've ever done that was great guys tomorrow night heads will turn kisses will happen and we have cocktails we have french fries we have pizza we have tacos and we're watching we're watching it was just like it was such good community getting out of their seats and screaming and just running like it was so much i drove home and i felt healed no i felt i felt so i felt so good pedro kept calling me being like wait did everyone have fun like he texted me like please come back i know it was so good i felt so good pedro kept calling me being like wait did everyone he's perfect i know i think he's just like in a place where he's like really happy like that his friends get to enjoy like all of the child but it's so fun that we're gonna have all these cool places to make la fun again because la yeah la needs like some fun it does like the only fun place out here is living room right yeah and it's really fun it's really fun it's too much fun actually i got my text of who's djing this week who's djing also what day what day are you going i'm here this weekend bitch oops we're going up anyways we have a game for you yeah we do oh to break the ice okay this is gonna be rapid fire or actually rapid answers whatever whatever you whatever you feel okay let's go i'm gonna kick it off la or new york city new york city duh favorite go-to comfort food chicken wings dream venue to play whoa she's so cute she teleported she did a different dimension in the future because i'm looking around at all the venues dream uh red rocks amphitheater is that in arizona yeah oh i just get that that is crazy i was expecting her to be like what like that's like a sexy venue really okay it's just like iconic manifest i don't know if like my kind of music would bring me there but like who knows never say never never say never um what's justine's favorite justine song oh i mean i change this all the time i guess right now it would be air candy what's your hardest song to sing vocally you know what because i haven't i haven't like performed any oh i know this is rapid fire no it's actually it's fine but i haven't um really performed this project yet like i haven't performed this project yet i've done like club shows and like little like shows here and there but like i'm gonna get to actually like experience it on this run this tour run that i'm doing i feel like thong might be the hardest but then i also feel like heart attack might be the hardest because i'm singing a lot in like my falsetto so i don't know i stopped smoking cigarettes a little bit except that one night but there's for the most part i was like what no but that was just that one night i haven't i haven't i haven't been smoking since because you got your wisdom tooth out oh not to put her on the spot even before that i haven't been smoking since like i've been doing like a lot better better yeah that's it like i was smoking every day yeah see like but it's not like i go through like a pack a day you smoked last night no where were we last night no i didn't oh you didn't i only had pina colada good girl good girl that's a good girl what's your sexual oh we got so many comments by the way like our number one comment what's my sexuality yeah like are you bi was like one of our top answers oh no i'm not a lesbian i'm actually like very straight apparently like apparently why apparently why apparently because you know like who i'm in love with and he's like well maybe if you were more androgynous really justine's in love with a gay man yeah girl aren't we all yeah i mean i think we've talked about this like no it's just like we were talking about the other night with him and he was just like you know yeah you're just like you're my sis yeah and i was just like who is this steve oh yeah that's a gay man i know but but it's just like my crush it's okay that's my crush but if i was more androgynous he said he would consider it but i'm not a gay man i'm not a gay man i'm not a gay man i'm just like too straight apparently yeah and that's fine she's like dick dick dick dick dick i want it now what the fuck was that that's a tic-tac sound i want some dick dick dick dick i want it now have you guys not heard it what i want some dick you guys are singing it buddy no okay i'll find it later but oh my god literally us this summer it's gonna be stuck it's gonna be stuck it's gonna be like oh i'm sweating this damn new light okay all right guys come on let's get through this okay justine a lot of people know you as an artist but to us you're our little steen do you remember meeting us like what do you remember when we met no yeah i don't remember either i have no idea i have no known each other for a lot longer right i don't know when we were together i don't know when we were together when we met i think i had to have been like 16 like i can't it's like really scary because like i don't remember where we met it's okay it's not scary i don't remember shit i mean we were like 16 i don't remember when me and vick met either me neither well speaking of that oh yeah you guys when i first met justine when i told you i thought she did not like me she was so rude to me she would never say hi she would never acknowledge me she would always ignore me to one point i remember being in paris and being like seriously you're not gonna say hi to me like i don't know i had enough and after that it was like two years later and after that things are well because i was like what are you talking about she she didn't do it on purpose no i did it i was just like hey damn that's worse that's worse okay i have something to admit so there's this like exclusive there's no there's just like this idea of me that people like think i'm a bitch yeah and to be honest when i went younger i was just very like i was i'm a virgo no i definitely was a bitch like because i was just like i'm i don't know you yeah like why am i supposed to do a backflip like yeah yeah it's like hey and then it's like well i was not as friendly as i am now yeah but it wasn't because i like i was like insecure or anything i just really was so in my own bubble which is very rude and i apologize to anyone that i was ever mean to oh but because i'm i also think like yeah i was just like younger and like i was just like yeah i'm like justine yeah and i still feel like that now but i'm just i i have like a different level of confidence now i'm older from my perspective it was like justine would walk in and then like go and you would like talk and like give your energy to like the people you were close with in the room and you and vick weren't close yet yeah so it was like and from my outside perspective was that yeah not like she was like purposely being mean to me it was just like she was giving all of her attention i truly like it's more like the bit that we have now no it was the bit i don't i don't know but it was like a lot of people do feel that way about me yeah but it's just because like i i wasn't like a small talk person like and i wasn't i didn't like if we have to tell the things are changing story oh my god that's a good one because i just i didn't like i don't know i just felt like i had like my people and then that was like my people and then vick became my person right then i just it just took some time it took some time some people if you were in virgo you know like it's like it takes longer for two years and turned donnie two days yeah she met donnie we'll get all the time and donnie was much older anyways me and justine are fine now we're great uh we have each other's locations yes we do but anyways we went to mystique and i brought donnie and it was donnie's first time meeting a lot of new people i guess and he didn't know before and him and justine were like this yeah they like donnie would go with justine to like look at little turtles and send me photos of justine holding turtles and they had like the cutest little time like they loved each other no donnie is my doll and then and then it was like the bit of like oh damn it took vick two years and justine and donnie two days like what but it's true she was older but it was more for the bit like now all of this is a bit now i'm like i'm just like hey like how are you right yeah like before i with people i would just be like hey hey everyone thinks i'm a bitch too but it's like once people actually get to know me i don't know anyone that thinks you're a bitch that's true i like don't know anyone on earth that thinks you're a bitch no i was just laughing the way you said it i don't think you're up you can be a bitch though for sure yeah i've never seen you be a bitch to anyone ever what oh also another thing not this tangent on being bitches no because there's another thing because like i just feel like in this day and age of like social media people are so quick to like just judge things which is also why i feel really bad like i have this thing where if i say something i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like something like mean even in my head i like apologize and like i'm like i'm sorry like i don't want to be that person i'm sorry no i literally like i'm sorry like even if i'm in the car i'm like fuck you you fucking bitch i'm like i'm sorry i don't like i don't want to be like this like person but i feel like in this day and age of like social media and everyone feels like they can say whatever they want behind like their computer and like even like us watching love island like we're just like screaming at the team like fuck this person get them off my tv it's like it's hunger games and it's very like it's not nice and i wish that it would stop but we have strong but it's also like it's also like even if we do have strong opinions why are like why are you like demonized for the rest of your life about it it's like we're all human beings and we all like say things in the comfort of our friends and like no one's perfect no one's perfect not one single person on this planet is perfect except for sauce oh that's really sweet i'm kidding that's really sweet it's really sweet you guys what i'm gonna start crying guys we're gonna start crying on here for no reason actually which is gonna be really funny i almost started crying because of my birthday okay justin is a virgo and virgos are known for being extremely observant and extremely honest okay you love the unfollow button don't you how often are you using the mute feature now the mute oh there was one day that i tried to mute everyone that i followed it was a lot can you do mute all or no they should add that feature because i would love that because i'm not that like person that like wants to unfollow everyone and only like follow zero people like i just think that's like strange unless you really just want to drop off the face of the earth and like just fuck everyone but i just don't think i can do that like i love my friends like you want me to unfollow my friends i mean well no one wants to do it to do anything but you have unfollowed but you unfollowed well that was a long time ago and why did that happen because uh it was like i was watching love island on my phone love island on her phone just one couple you didn't like how happy she was no okay because i was really depressed as i normally was when i was younger and i was like always going through breakups and i was just sad and stas was just like i was in a happy which i was getting cheated on all the time man so this is this is real tbt because this was before the mute feature was yeah it was before it was a thing so i was just like and you know i went through a lot in that moment before i made that but she texted me after saying hey justine unfollowed me on instagram and then she texted me saying hey stas i like we're friends you guys were like imagine like your good friend text you and says hey stas i just have to let you know i had to unfollow you on instagram it really makes me depressed seeing how happy you are in your relationship shut the fuck up texting me this and then i repeated back to her well you didn't unfollow x y and z and they're also in happy relationship so why is it just me bitch no interesting there was a reason what was it because they were making out on my feet all day but i i apologize yeah there was like one night then me and stas were like out and we had like our nights yeah we had like one of our nights and like i'm in stas's bed and she wakes up in the morning she goes can we follow each other back oh my god i forgot about that justine we literally like she slept over and i looked at her and i was like so are you gonna follow me back no where was this guys like five years ago yes no longer like way longer ago like we had to have been 19 at that point oh okay like like 10 years ago guys okay we've been through a lot we've been through a lot this is matt rogers from las culturistas with matt rogers and bowen yang this is 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was like no at this point it would kind of be betraying the trust the author and the listener have in telling this story if i don't go through it but there's places in this book that that deeply emotionally affected me and i left it on the mic that's great because it served the story people will say like oh my god i cried at the end it's like yeah dude me too listen to ear say the audible and i heart audiobook club on the i heart radio app or wherever you get your podcasts this is danielle official from pod meets world summer is winding down and you know what that means back to school shopping but don't worry this year i'm here to help with famous footwear they make it easy to get great shoes at great prices with brands like jordan nike adidas birkenstock new balance sketchers and more they have what your kids want without breaking the bank which considering how fast these kids grow is important you don't want to waste money on sneakers they'll constantly outgrow and let's be honest 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I was like kind of emo in school and like so I wore like black high top converses and they were like, but you're a big ass fucking feet and like well and I was like I've been this height since I was like in school. So they would just like say things like and like bully me and I was like where I had braces like whatever. And so in my defense because like my like I kind of like grew up in the industry. My mom's a lawyer. So like I'd go on to like Jamaica or I'd be like in Miami with my mom while she was working and I'd get darker. Like I get tan and then they do be like you're black as fuck like blah blah blah and I'm just like well, I was just in Miami for New Year's. Where the fuck were you? Yeah, like and so like that. So it was like I would I was like you were it wasn't like I wanted to do that, but it was like it was your defense mechanism. Yeah, I was just like well making fun of you. You were like, well, yeah, like no, it was so bad guys. Like one time in middle school. I'm like it was so sad. Like I was in the locker room in middle school like after gym and this girl took my clothes shit. That's what you see. You see movies. No, it was like like it was like that. Like she literally took my clothes and I was like just in the locker room naked. And then what do you do? Just like in the locker room. So then I don't know. I don't even remember how I got out of the situation. No, I'm not like was I crying? Yeah, because I was like, what did I do? Like I it wasn't like I was just I don't know what it was. It's scary. And like anytime something happened, my mom would come up to the school and like be yelling at people like even in elementary school, like for some reason in elementary school, some like these they wanted to say that I was pregnant. I was like. In third grade. Wait, that's crazy. Check the fuck out. And so they're like they were like spreading a rumor around school that I was pregnant. And so my mom comes up to school and curses the little boy out that was like saying that I was pregnant. And then she got scared to piss your mom off. No, she got banned from the school. Your mom? Yeah, she couldn't pick me up from school anymore. From like coming so much? Yeah, she couldn't come on the school grounds. So she yelled at the boy. Your mom was a lawyer. Is a lawyer. Yeah. Still is. Still is. Because my mom didn't play that. She was just like, you said what? Yeah. So school wasn't really like my thing. Well, I dropped out. Did you do college or in high school? No. So I got homeschooled for the last two years of high school because I also got bullied in high school. What? It was like, I don't know why I was always getting bullied. Justine. Like these girls. I can even see that now knowing you. I'm like, how could you ever? No, it's so weird because like I watch these K dramas now and they're always about like getting bullied in school. And I'm like, that was me like getting bullied because the teachers never did anything about it. It was like weird. That's crazy though. Like this girl took my phone and like texted me. Cause I got like a tattoo in my lip when I was 15 because I went to an art school and like some of the kids in school did tattoos and I'm just like, I got a smiley face in my lip. So then someone stole my phone during gym, texted my mom from my phone and was like, your daughter's a whore. She got her boyfriend's name tatted in her lip. Shut the, Justine. It was like, it was full. Like it was like actually a movie. Like, and so my mom, I can't find my phone. I had a Blackberry. I can't find my phone. I had one of those. Me too. Can't find my phone. I'm just like, what the fuck? What the fuck's going on? Freaking out. My mom, she like picks me up from school that day and she's like, we're driving in the car and she's like, do you have a tattoo? And I'm like, no, what are you talking about? Like, that's crazy. Why would I have a tattoo? I'm 15. And she's like, do you have a tattoo in your lip of your boyfriend's name? Cause who the fuck is your boyfriend? And I was like, and I was dating like this boy who didn't go to my school, who was like a gangbanger. Oh my gosh. Kind of. I don't know. I don't know. We're in like high school. I don't even know if he was like a real gangbanger. Gang member or banger? Same thing. Isn't that like a gangbanger? Like multiple people having sex. Gang bang. Like she got gang banged. Isn't that like multiple people have sex with someone? Who are you dating, girl? How old were you? Vic, no, that's not what, I mean, yes, that is what that means, but. You said he's a gangbanger. No, like gangbanger. Like, you know, they talk, I'll be outside with my gang gang. You were just talking about gangbanger. You were just talking about how your mom is an entertainment lawyer. So what was success? What did success look like in your household? And when did you realize that your upbringing wasn't typically like a normal situation? I don't know what like normal really means. I think it's like, like sometimes I see people like, like people call me like a nepo baby. And I'm like, like for me, a nepo baby is like someone who comes from like a famous like parent, like in a famous family or like someone who like comes from the person that like made Bic pens. You know what I'm saying? But it's like, I guess, yes, my mom like is an entertainment attorney. So it like, it helped me, but it also like kind of opened some doors. It opened some doors, but it also was like, it made people look at me being like, oh, that's like her daughter. Like, yeah. Like, you know, like I had to kind of like figure things out in my own space, which is what Tumblr helped me do. And then people started to like, take me seriously. I guess success in my household. Like my mom was a single mother. So like I lived with her and she was always working. Like my aunt was like taking care of me a lot of the time. Like when my mom would like be working late hours or have to like travel, cause she was bringing, she was like working hard to make sure that I never like struggled. She just wanted to make sure I had everything that was like perfect, but she was like working so much. So you always on a vacation. She just wanted me to have like an amazing life. And then I wanted to be an artist. Always, always like from the day I was born, I wanted to be an artist. Like I was like, I feel like I came out. I don't know. My mom was so fly growing up. Like she had all the red bottoms and I was just like, Oh, my mom is lit. And I always used to be, she says, no, what's her shoe size? She's a seven. What are you? 39. No, she said she didn't want to say nine. She said 39. Me and sauce are the same size and I'm going to say it before she does. Yes, I did lose her shoes. Oh yeah. She lost her boots. No, my hands. My heels. No, that other bitch lost my boots. Yes. Yeah, there's bitches out here stealing boots. So beware, beware. Justine stole my shoes. But yeah, it was just like my mom taught me like to always hustle and never take no for an answer and to just keep like going for my dreams. Like she was a part of my career for such a long time. We don't work together anymore, but she's still like giving me advice. And like, it's just great to have her like our relationship as mother and daughter so much better. Now that you don't work together, that we don't work together because I feel like before we just like consistently talking about work to the point that I was like, we never got to like hang out as mother and daughter because that was just what it was since I was like 16. Right. And so now I can be like, Mom, like, you're not going to believe it. I just went on a date and this boy is like, blah, blah, blah. And she's like, girl, tell me why this boy is blah, blah, blah. And it's just so nice that we have that relationship now. But I also like if I'm just like, hey, like this is happening. Like, what do you think about this? And she's like, hey, like, I know you didn't ask for my opinion. But like, blah, blah, blah, you should do this. And it's just nice to get the advice, but also have the mother daughter bond that I feel like was lost during the time, the times of us like working together. Yeah. Because she's such she's such a boss and she's so locked in. And so like everything that we did, like if I was like, Mom, like, I really don't want to do this. She's like, well, this is what's good for your career. She was like locked in like full momager. And I'm just like, so some some parts of it like made me sad because I'm just like, I just want my mom. Yeah. Yeah. Does she rep anyone that we might? I know at the moment. No, she actually has gone into the cannabis business. Shut up. Yeah. Which I'm really I'm so it's my business. Hello. Well, speaking about being young and working with your mom, you also met with a lot of labels when you were younger. Do you think that you wish you waited or do you think that going through everything you went through with labels kind of shaped where you are and what you've built now? I feel like everything that I have gone through in my career has. Made me the artist and the woman that I am today and through like the rejection or the ups and the downs and the rollercoasters that I've gone through, I feel like I understand the industry better if I was just like a like a new artist today, like I probably would have fallen for like bad deals that people have offered me like before I just signed to Warner, you know, like they were when I was like looking to like sign again after being independent for three years. I was just like, do you guys think I'm stupid? Right. Like you guys think I just woke up today and decided to be like an artist and like you're putting this contract in front of my face like you're like, actually, I've been through this. Yeah. And like, you know that I've been through this. So actually, it's just like disrespect. Right. Right. And then I finally found like a great home with Warner and they're so supportive and it's just been an amazing experience because sometimes being at labels is like not a favorite thing like for an artist to do unless you're like huge. Yeah. Like, you know, like and even still like we know some people who still like go through shit with their labels, you know, and it's just like labels. It's a business. Yeah. It's a business. So that's why I don't take shelf. Like, yeah, you can get shelved or they'll like give certain things to other people. Yeah. I mean, we're just we're also just in a day and age where as an artist, you have to fight for yourself more than anything ever. Like there's not really artist development like there was back in the days where they like sign an artist and they put all this money behind them. Like you, you really have to like just do shit on your own and get shit like popping on your own. And then they're like, which is also the annoying that thing of TikTok. I mean, I always know it, but also a pro. No, for some people. Sometimes. No, I don't actually know. It can be a pro, but it's like, but I always think of the story of like Frank Ocean, you know, it's like what you guys probably don't know. I'm about to put you on. I don't know. Tell me. Well, it's just like he was he was going under like another name and he then changed his name. Yeah. Lonnie. And then he changed his name to Frank Ocean, like started putting out like music and mixtapes. And then the label was like labels are trying to sign. to find him and he was like, I'm already signed to you i think that's the story but but she's like don't quote me actually now that i said i think you want maybe i don't know i think that's correct but it's just like you know what i'm saying like labels like there's also what i love about being with warner is like they don't have that many artists yeah like they have a lot of artists but they like they're very like focused on like the people that they have and they pay attention and so it's really nice i'm actually meeting with my anrs the other day shout out my anrs i love them that's amazing i guess you kind of just said that but was there ever a moment that you felt like no one's gonna build this for me so i'm gonna do it on my own oh yeah i mean in the like separation of like getting a new team after like parting ways with my mom i was kind of just like fuck i've never done this without her before like how right like how where do i even begin and i feel like it was the first time in my life that i actually felt like an adult which is crazy because i'm grown but i was because i felt like my mom was like my mom so she was like taking care of everything and i was like i feel like i need to do this on my own if i fail i feel by myself yeah and so i started taking like meetings literally by myself no one else with me just like meetings by myself walking into like labels offices like managers like everything and i'm just like with lawyers i'm just asking friends being like hey can do you know these people like set me up with them like blah blah and i'm like i'm being like the most vulnerable i've ever been in my life i'm like hey like i know i've been in this industry a long time this and that i'm hungry this is my this is what i want to do this is the direction that i want to go in i'm switching my sound like if you fuck with it then you fuck with it if you don't just tell me straight up like i don't need you to sugarcoat anything like i don't i'm not begging anyone to fuck with me like i know what i have and i know who i am yeah and if you see that then you do and if you don't then cool i'll go to somebody else but like i wasn't like i said like like what i learned from my mother i'm not taking no for an answer yeah and i just like was tunnel vision with everything and i don't know how but i built a team around me like a lawyer a manager this that business manager i'm like i look like when i sit with my team now we look back from like the moment when i had nothing literally like nothing like zero dollars in my pocket like didn't know what to do like my friends are helping me like guys like help i'm just like wow i've come so far from that moment which is about like two years ago now right it's just like it's exciting whereas like some people in my position they would feel defeated and like want to give up on being like i don't know what to do i don't know what to do i don't know in the music 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