Debating Dynasty RB Tiers for 2026 + Mock Drafting! - Dynasty Fantasy Football
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The episode centers on dynasty running back tiers, with the hosts—Kyle, Mike, and Jason—analyzing top players amid scheme changes. They note that elite backs like Bijan Robinson and Jahmyr Gibbs are in a tier of their own, though Gibbs is gaining redraft momentum due to the Lions' offensive consistency, while Bijan's Falcons situation with Michael Penix remains uncertain. The discussion emphasizes the volatility of running back careers in dynasty, citing sudden declines like Austin Ekeler and Dalvin Cook, and the hosts share personal experiences, with Jason admitting to past misses but valuing championships over constant value extraction. They also address the 2027 draft class, which is strong overall but lacks top running back prospects, potentially extending the value of older veterans. The episode announces a new mock draft tool in the Ultimate Draft Kit, available initially on iPhone, with features like custom ADP and future dynasty ADP integration. The hosts reflect on the difficulty of projecting multi-year performance and the importance of context, such as age curves and incoming draft classes. Ultimately, they stress balancing win-now strategies with future planning, as running back value can evaporate quickly, but holding elite players can lead to sustained success.
[music] Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty Podcast with Borg Betts in the Baller. [music] Welcome in! [music] Boys and girls, children of all ages. It's Wednesday, July 15th. Fantasy Footballers Dynasty Podcasts. And I'm your host, Cobb Organone, and I'm joined by Matthew Betts and Jason Moore. How did you do that? Um, I feel out of place today. Yeah, Jason's hat is super cool. Oh, yeah. The Sun's hat? Kyle's wearing an X-Pose hat. I had a silly guy, a lame-o on here. Yeah, always. We're in a Facebook all our t-shirt. Imagine wearing that. Yeah, you've got hair, though, which means you don't have to wear a hat. So, you know, that's pretty good. I would take that trade. Well, you guys look cool. And I don't, so that's fine. Wow, that's one of the kindest things you've said to me in a while on this podcast. That is true. That your hat is nice. Not how about you, just like that's a nice hat. It's weird. I was talking to Kyle a lot today, actually. I'm running up this like huge training camp preview article, which is just silly because it's a book. And I came across the Falcons and I was talking about the quarterbacks situation. I just messaged Kyle and I was like, hey, do you remember when they took Michael Panics 8th of Rawl? And he just, he didn't even say anything. He just replied with the photo of Jason you in like pointing a making fun of him. And I said, who could have possibly predicted? Yeah, who could have seen that not being the next great pick? Yeah. And now, I mean, maybe the Falcons don't win enough games to keep to on the field, but like I, I don't think Panics sees the field. You know exactly how many games this team is going to win because it's basically been the exact same story. Many since we've done the podcast, since the podcast started, it was like the Super Bowl year. We can't call it a win because it was an epic loss because factually, it was not a win. And then since then they haven't had a winning season, haven't made the playoffs since 2017. I think Stofansky is going to do good things for your team. I'm a he got Cleveland winning some games early on. I, you know, it got stale and some of the moves around him were bad. I like Stofansky. We'll talk a little bit about the Falcons run game today because we're going to talk about Dynasty running back tears. And I think one of the common themes at the top is the scheme changes for the top really seven or eight running backs. We're going to talk about today like you talk about B. Jean. It is the new system. Talk about Gibbs is a different offensive coordinator drew pet sing Gentie gets a new play caller, a Chan Jeremiah love. All these guys that are at the very, very top of Dynasty rankings. There are some variables in play about the scheme changes that we don't know and someone get major upgrades like when we talk about Gentie and Kubiak, this is light years ahead of whatever they were trying to do last year with Chip Kelly and old man Pete Carroll. Like it was just it was an unsurious organization. Yeah. And he was just running into the back of lineman over and over and over again. Not just Pete Carroll, but all the carols. The carol of the bells. Yeah. Bad season for the Carol family. Did you guys realize that chip Kelly was the highest paid offensive coordinator in the league last year? No. I did remember that. Yeah. That which I mean it showed right? Yeah. Sure did great. Great things out there in Vegas. Yeah. So we'll talk through some of these scheme changes because I think at the running back position, this is one of the ones we love to scout. And I know Jason. This has been the position over the years when we get on this podcast. We talk about the rookies. We go through the whole process like this is kind of your bread and butter of I'm not saying that you're not going to miss things or whatever, but it's like you can tell this is what can translate to the NFL. And it's like one of our favorite things to continue to talk about. Yeah. I love scouting rookies. Sometimes it gets a hold of me and we'll make our mistakes. I got two famous swing and a misses. Do you remember that more sadly? Oh, for sure. For sure. I mean, carry on Johnson. I will never live down. Now with him, I still fully plant my flag. He was great. He got injured out of the league. I do not think he would not have succeeded without that injury. And then I mean, I look, I don't, I don't like bringing the name up, but I was a believer in Caleb Johnson last year. And he's dead. He is dead. So that, you know, I'll, I'll take and eat my crow on that. But I would say that, you know, historically, it's, it's definitely been the position that I have the most fun scouting. And I think I've been the most, not, not the most accurate, you know, in the world. I'm saying for myself, I think that's where I can, can see success pretty well. Did you see carry on the other day? Like Mike Post this. I'm going to read it. I'm going to read it from the great carry on Johnson. Who's now coach carry on? So he's still got some football. Coach Johnson. And he says to the people that tell me you still got some carries left in you. You all seem to just happen to Conor McGregor, right? I'm going to keep sitting on this couch. Yeah. His knee, uh, his knee said you don't get to play football anymore and he's, he's a smart man to know it. Yeah. Okay. I mean, as the running backs coach at East Tennessee state, the Buccaneers learning something to every day. Cool. Nice. Didn't you do PT school there? I did a rotation down there in Johnson City, Tennessee. So yeah, there you go. Okay. Cool. We do have a fun little announcement. The tool that just came out in the ultimate draft kit plus and I would say, you know, since the ultimate draft can spend out over a decade, this might be one of the biggest upgrades that we've ever made. And Jason said it and it happened. Yeah. I did. I made sure that we were going to release it on time and we did. It is the mock draft tool, but I have a correction for you, Kyle. It is not just in the UDK plus. Now, granted, most of our dynasty information is. So if you want to get the UDK plus or be an ultimate footclam member, you'll have access to all of our dynasty stuff. But if you just have the regular ultimate draft kit, the mock draft tool is in there. We've been working on it for a long time. When we make these tools, we try to do it right. The sleeper has a great platform for mock drafting, but that's only on sleeper for sleeper, you know, ADP. If you're on any other platform, it's really, there's just been a need for something like this so that you can bring in and it works on sleeper as well. But automatically, you can choose which ADP you want. You can choose kind of the draft strategy that you're going to see. You can invite other UDK managers to mock with you. It's a very good tool. We've got so much more coming. We wanted to get it up early right now so that we can get bug fixes, but we've already got like other versions in the wings. We're going to have it automatically sink to the draft analyzer. So you can do a mock and then immediately just have it analyze like what would this have looked like. That'll be out really, really soon. Obviously on that one, you will need the plus because the draft analyzer is in the UDK bus. But we've been working on a long time. We've wanted it for years. It's pretty much the most requested thing that we have always been asked like, why don't you have a mock draft tool? Well, we do now. Now granted, right this second, it is only out on the app for iPhones. So we'll bring it to the web. We'll bring it to Android. Those things are coming very, very, very soon, but it is live for iPhone users on that. I am proud and embarrassed to admit how many mocks I did from the moment it was released. Nice. You're doing work. Jason, don't judge. Okay, don't judge me. My productivity today, not the greatest if I'm being totally honest because the mock draft tool, it is clean. It is fun. It is awesome. You guys are going to love it. It's benefits to for our show and people that play dynasty is that we will have settings for there. And then eventually we will have our own dynasty ADP. So you can see how the foot clan actually gets to, you know, how they draft and is that different from other places. So having our own ADP, I think is is a low key one of my favorite things because on every single show, you know, the main show redraft, like we're always referencing average draft position. And it's really great to be able to have people in the foot clan or do that. So ultimate draft kit dot com. If you want draft analyzer mock draft tool, all of our rankings, projections, the, the tears that we're referencing today's the running back tears, they will come straight from those rankings. So ultimate draft kit dot com, moving on. Last week we talked about wider receivers and with Mike, we kind of talked through some thoughts about how tears and dynasty are a little different than the projections that we do in the ultimate draft kit because when Jason's starting out all of these players, he is actually trying to figure out here's what they're doing in 2026. Here's the market share for, you know, the Raiders and here's, you know, how we're breaking this up. Here's the new system. But it's really hard to project over multiple years and say this is what's going to happen. If you would have tried to do that last year with the Raiders, you would have failed miserably because this regime is no longer around. So in dynasty, things shift, things change and we're trying to look over multiple years. And the last thing I will add is there are things at the running back position of all positions.
and dynasty that you just don't know what you don't know. And then it is over. I'm looking at 2023 and I'm looking at top 10 rankings for Dynasty runnymax, Austin Eccler. When it was gone, it was just gone. It was over. It was done. And you could probably get nothing in return for Austin Eccler after that year where the previous couple of years he was firmly seen as a top 10 running back, basically a cheat code in fantasy. And then a year later it was done. And I look at some other guys on this list. It was like, okay, when Zeke was done, Zeke was just over. But the run for Zeke going all the way back to 2016 was like, this is a top five back. So have you guys ever had one of the most elite studs at running back position in Dynasty? And then it was just gone. Like if you had any of those players on your teams in the past. I'm trying to think of like the Dalvin cook and came very quickly. But if I recall correctly, it was like a weird situation because we kind of could predict that they were going to move on before it was like a post June 1st type of thing with Alexander Madison when he had the chance to be the guy. So if you were like ahead of that perhaps you got out at the right time. But if you held on thinking like he's going to be the Vikings guy, yeah, that one ended literally like immediately that he left the Vikings. So that's one that comes in mind for me. Yeah, I can honestly say that I can't remember one where I was held holding the bag. I usually try to get out a couple of years early. I think I've been pretty successful with that. However, I've got Derek Henry and I will be writing. I mean, at this point though, it's like even if the end is right now, like he comes out, gets injured. He never scores another fantasy point of his career. I won't feel like I held the bag too long. I got to hold the bag forever because four years ago, I thought he was going to be done. And he's just he's King Henry. So eventually that one will come. It's rare for me to hold on to a running back and or a wide receiver for that matter until the end of their life. Unless that team is Dino Jr. in which case I am, I mean, Mike and I, that's our champ champ team. From a good time ago. It's coming, the bill is coming. Do you do you know all of our, all of our aged players? - Let me read you some. - I do. Derek Henry, five years ago, this team would have been incredible. - It was. We won championships. Derek Henry, Devonte Adams, Travis Kelsey, Mike Evans. I mean, we superstar guys that are, they're not, oh, and Tyree Kill. So it's like, yeah, they're, we're going to be rebuilding in the near future. - Yeah, I should have just staffer last year, right? - Yeah, we might have staffer there. - Please tell me how blacko on that team too. - That's it. - That's all right. - That's all right. - We got Hayden Rake. - Got some young guys. - We're building in the wings. - Yeah, I think at running back, everybody's had players that you're trying to figure out, when do I extract the value, when do I ride this out? And there's really not a perfect answer. Like I was going through the rankings here. And if the goal of this game was just to extract value all the time, and that's it, you could play that game. But this is also, I want to win. And I want to win a championship. And so there comes a certain point, we were at a crossroads and say, yes, I could get more value. But perhaps the old Derek Henry performance is better than me getting a second round pick. - Well, I mean, put it this way. The team that I just talked about, that where I've got Kelsey and I've got Adams and Matthew Stafford and Mike Evans and Derek Henry. We won back to back to back championships with them, which maybe we wouldn't have if when Derek Henry was getting, you know, 29 or when, you know, Devonte Adams was 28, if I had done the move on from them, maybe we don't win those championships back then. So it is a testament to, sometimes you have to hold on. If you're really going for the championship, you got to do what it takes to get the championship. And I have no regrets. - So we will walk through the first couple of tears at the running back position. And as I was putting these together, you could find all the rankings, Dynasty Rankings are Andy Mike and Jason's. Usually I know that next year or the year after, like here's a class coming. So I have to kind of think about these guys because a year from now, we're going to have, you know, a Jeremiah love or a national gentie. And I can look at those rankings. I'm looking at ahead at next year's class. We've talked a lot about how 2027 is a strong class. So far, it does not project that for the running back position. So when we're adjusting our Dynasty rankings about where players fall, like as of right now, we do not have a ton of strong names in the mix. So just, I just think about that for 2027 because they're valuable picks to everybody. But as of right now, the running backs are not. - Interesting. So everyone's hyping up the 27 draft, but it's basically wide receivers. Top heavy quarterbacks as well. I guess if you're in a super flex, it makes the 27 draft much better. - And Kyle, what you're referencing is just kind of looking ahead at early consensus big boards, which these change drastically from now till next year. Every year that happens. But there's only four guys right now in the top, you know, 90 picks projected. Again, that'll change. But that's what Kyle is speaking to. Like nobody's projected as like a first round lock for next year the way love and gentie have been. And I think about this kind of from the lens of the last couple of classes we had when gentie came out with, you know, Travion and Juddkins and all those guys, it was billed as a great running back class. So like you should plan accordingly in dynasty. We saw the opposite end of that spectrum when the Jonathan Brooks year happened with like, "Tray Benson," like it was really a week running back class. It's pretty weak this year for the most part behind the top two guys. So just knowing that like I think some of these vets might hold a little more value over the next calendar year roughly, give or take, then maybe they would have otherwise if we were getting a really strong class coming in. So just something to consider I think from a top down view. Yeah, when we talk about like age curves for players, you know, you might look at some of these guys and say like, "Oh, they're in their age 28 season." But like we just had a class that had Judarian price and a bunch of question marks, right? Like that's what we just had. And now we're about to have another one where I would just say it's gonna be not as overwhelming as we want it to be. So some of these players that are in a little bit older age, it's easy for me to just say, "Oh, we'll just sell this player, he's 28 years old." When the context of the league says, this guy might still be a starter for another one to two years. Yeah, it's important. Running backs tend to come in, I mean, both running backs and water, they tend to come in waves. You know, we had a couple down years and then all of a sudden we had the year with Hampton, Gentie, Travion, Judkins. We'll talk about a lot of those guys in the tiers today. Those guys are probably, you know, when you look at Henderson or Judkins, those are the type of players that have a chance to tear jump going into next year 'cause they are young enough to still hold and care that value. RJ Harvey was in there. And so it's like they all come in the league at one time, similar with quarterbacks. Like, you know, a couple of years ago, we had the Caleb Williams, Drake, May, Jayden, Daniels. All the greatest prospects that existed. There's always a panic, so Caleb Johnson mixed in. But yeah, so and then it's like, and then you get a down year or two. So it's good to know. It really is valuable information to be like the 27 draft everyone's waiting for is not very running back top heavy. Yeah. Let's say quick break and then we'll jump into the first tier. The first tier at the running back position, I'm just calling from another planet because B-john and Gibbs are here. And I honestly don't really care what order you want to put them in. I feel like for redraft purposes, I've Gibbs has kind of gained some steam to be ahead of B-john in some circles. If you're just looking at tiebreakers for team success and the line. I think it almost all circles. I think he is, I mean, it's not 100%. He's not going to go ahead and in all leagues, but from what I've seen and the sentiment, it seems like Gibbs is at least three out of four times going ahead, pretty strongly so. And I would agree with that, right? Just from like a scoring expectation on the Lions compared to the, I mean, the Falcons, what a team. It's just the touchdown expectations a little different. You have more steady quarterback play, more guaranteed at quarterback proven consistency year every year with the offense, whereas what the Falcons is at two is at Pennix. What are we getting there? That's the only coin flip for me in redraft, but obviously we're talking through these guys in a dynasty lens. I don't even know what they're supposed to say. Yeah, I mean, like these, these guys are incredible. And if you have either one, you have a cheat code on your roster for the next, I don't know what, three, four, five seasons, barring injury. Five seasons. You guys don't do that, Pat. Don't do that. Oh, running back, you just take your three. You take your three and you just, you hold on to that. You told us last year, Jason, B-john's never getting injured. I didn't. That's right. But that was for last season. I said, there's no way he will get injured this year, which was last year going there is no way he will not get injured at some point in his career, because he's a running back. It will happen to everybody. Those two are awesome. I think the argument, I mean, in a dynasty league, maybe it is easier to go on the B-john side, because if I were a general manager of an NFL team and I had to draft B-john or Gibbs, I would definitely take B-john. I think B-john is the better running back. [BLANK_AUDIO]
built for more workload, they're both outstanding. And while Gibbs might have the edge and like huge breakaway explosive plays, I don't think he has the edge in the down to down, just make something out of nothing, get more than you should. You know, if you look at just EPA per play on what was expected, the difference is you've got a better quarterback, a better offensive line, a better scoring expectation, a better chance at winning games, which helps running backs, everything stacks to the Gibbs side. So it's like you've got two super talented players. I like the town of Beijon more. So in a dynasty league, maybe you say, well, nothing stays the same in the NFL. Two years from now, the lines could absolutely suck. It seems wild to say something like that. And it's always the case. And I don't know if we could say that two years from now, the Falcons will be great because it's been a minute. It's been like 10 years. That feels normal to me though. Like it's just you just said, like what I do every day, that feels normal. But with these two players, if you are on, let's just say you think you're rebuilding team. And I was like putting that question down thinking, if you have these two players, like don't you already have a chance in your league, like no matter how bad your squad is, like, so what would it take for you to even train away these players? Like I couldn't fathom having Beijon and saying, well, I guess I'm going to rebuild. And the way that I'm going to rebuild is I get two firsts and a young step. And I hope that one day he maybe becomes Beijon. No, no, you have to you have to get something that is outrageous. It's got to have a handful of picks and first round picks and a talent. You know, if you if you told me I was going to trade Beijon away or Gibbs away because I need to rebuild. Then I'm getting three firsts and camps, Gattaboo or something like that. You know, where you can argue that's an overpay. An overpay. But that is what it would take. You know, it's like, well, you have to overpay if you want to get them. Agreed. I don't have too much to add there. I will just say the only thing to kind of hammer home with these guys, we often get questions about rebuilding teams and how we do side with the young elite stud wide receivers, which if that's your philosophy, that's totally fine. But if you already have these guys and you are in a rebuild, I would want these running backs as part of the rebuild. So don't trade them away just because they're running backs as the final point. I would say these are building blocks and dynasty, no matter what phase of life your team is in. Especially running backs in general. Maybe not. But if you're talking about tier one, which is, you know, the aliens in Beijon and Gibbs, they're 24 years old. If you're 24 years old, you've got a window of you can rebuild next year or even the next year and that, you know, you could want to, you could be a rebuild right now and want to championship in two years with these players in their prime. Yep. No, exactly. Both of these guys also see the type of first read targets at the running back position that is just so rare. And that is maybe one of the stickiest stats year to year at the running back position. We'll talk about some of the ones that aren't very sticky. But if you see, like Beijon saw 18% of the teams first read targets. That was number one among running backs. When Dan Campbell took over, he was basically at the top two. He was tied with CMC Gibbs was in first read targets. So like no matter what situation was like these dudes are the offense. Let's move on to tier two. And I'm calling them young and foolproof. Like I don't think there's a way to screw this up unless there's one of these play callers that I think stand out. You're like, okay, one of these guys is not like the other. So in tier two, I have Ashen Gentie, Devon H. Han, Jeremiah Love, and Amarie and Hampton, which I cross reference a couple other sides just to see like where is Hampton at. He might be a tear down in some people's minds. But I'm already putting him in this group. And I feel like we're all three pretty bullish. Jason, you've got to share some of those thoughts recently when we preview the AFC West. But would you put Hampton in this tier? Yeah, Hampton is absolutely in this tier. I mean, right now in redraft, there's the argument of whether or not you should take Ashen Gentie or Amarie and Hampton first. And if there's that argument that is legitimate in a redraft league and they're basically the same age, you know, Gentie's a couple months younger, then yeah, that's called the same tier. They're both super talented guys. It's very similar to, I mean, both first round picks. Hampton was, I think, pick 22 overall in the draft. So the draft capital is there, the talents there. But obviously you look at Gentie on the Raiders and you've got issues. You look at Hampton on the chargers with their new improved offensive line. And you've got solutions. So yeah, they absolutely belong in the same tier. Yeah, real quick on the Amarie and Hampton thing. I'm with you guys. He definitely belongs in this year. I'm very excited about his outlook as is the rest of the fantasy community. Obviously with the chargers, the offensive line, like Daniel, there's like a weird subset. That like, there's like a little like mini group that's like worried about Keaton Mitchell. Oh, yeah. I don't know. I just like see it on Twitter and stuff. And I'm like, I guess people are making the comparison of the remoster H&N years with Mike Mutagno. I don't see it that way. You know, Keaton Mitchell's electric when he's touched the ball. But he's been a very specific small role player in the NFL. And sure, could they give him nine touches of game this year? It's possible, right? Obviously the contingent upside is there. But like, Amarie and Hampton is a first round pick. He is built to be a bell cow. And the thing that I'm most excited about with the chargers and the running back position with Mike Mutagno is obviously the scheme and the running attack. But like the way he was able to manufacture touches in the past scheme to these running backs with Devon H&N. Amarie and Hampton coming out of UNC had an awesome receiving profile. We saw it in a limited sample size last year. I think you can see more work in the past game than we even realize this year. And you know, so anybody out there that's like seeing the Keaton Mitchell stuff. I just wanted to put that up for conversation. Are you guys considering that much at all with with Hampton this year? Not at all. I love the Keaton Mitchell truthers because they keep Amarie and Hampton down a little bit. Not that he's very down. But Keaton Mitchell in his own right is going to be great for this team. They came out recently and said that they envisioned about eight touches of game. That's fine. The backup getting eight touches of game. That's that's not going to get in his way. I mean, David Montgomery just had 187 touches. Jameer Gibbs was fine. You look at the most dirt comparison of, you know, it's a good comp, right? Mike McDaniel had two different good backs and most dirt had, ironically both those guys had breakaway speed. But most dirt was a real breakaway speed. But most dirt has 25 pounds on Keaton Mitchell. You're not giving, you know, 190 pound 5/8 player a workload. You're you're mixing them in and peppering them in as a explosive weapon. And I think he'll be good for the chargers. I think he'll be good in his own right. But like, for instance, if Umarie and Hampton goes down to injury, if he goes down to injury, I would not be running after Keaton Mitchell Keaton Mitchell. Well, I think keep playing the Keaton Mitchell role. And Vidal will go into the the Hampton. Well, I think Hampton is and the greatest part is like, we just saw, you know, when Mike McDaniel has a talent like he had an H and a special player. H and was given a, you know, a real body of work and found in the receiving game and the rushing him. I think I think Hampton's going to be very, very involved. Touch the ball 300 times. I mean, Hampton has pretty much everything you look for. If we would have known that Hampton coming out of college would be paired with Mike McDaniel, because we didn't know that at the time, right? We would have been like over the move. Just like, this is this is what we want because you get the tackle breaking ability, whose somebody has a big body who can catch the football and scored rushing touchdowns. And when he was on the field last year, like, he was there inside the five guy, there was no question. So, I think Hampton has room like, like to me, Hampton has a ceiling where he can be the RB2 or 3 this season. If the, if things hit right, if they're running scheme works, if they do a ton of 12 personnel and they're successful in doing it, like I think Hampton just has a crazy high ceiling. We're next year, you're like, this dude could be among the elites. Yeah. Like a top five overall pick and redraft. Yeah. Hampton does the things that you need to do to be a real RB1, which is you need the goal and work. You need the receiving work and you usually need to be, you know, a high touch guy on a good team. So he checks every single box. If he ends up this season with 400 receiving yards, 1200 rushing yards and 13 touchdowns with a ton of receptions, that's, that's going to be a top five running back. Yep. Yep. For sure. Any worry, if you had to pick one of these four, so Gentie, H and love and Hampton, if you had to pick one of them to drop down into your next year, who would it be? That is tough. Gentie, H and love and Hampton. I mean, it's going to be H and yeah. Yeah, probably just from a team level perspective. You know, we talk about Mike McDaniel, the excitement there. Well, he lost Mike McDaniel. You've got some unknown offensive guys there for the Packers. You have a quarterback that doesn't presume or project to hyper target. I mean, Malik Willis, we said this back in the day with with Cam Newton, right? Like Cam Newton doesn't, he's a mobile quarterback. He doesn't throw to the running back. Well, as soon as he had Christian McCaffer, guess what? He threw to the running back because you're going to do that. Malik Willis will throw the ball to H and however, there's still a gap between when you are
talking about a Philip Rivers or in last year's case, you know, a guy like Tuah who checks that ball down a lot in not just play called, you know, design screens. You're going to lose receptions. You're not a great offensive team. You don't expect him to repeat his touchdown numbers he had last year. And he's the oldest of the bunch. So, you know, he's going to be 25 this year. So you're going to be going into next off season, say, okay, he's going to be a 26 year old running back. The team looks bad. They're going to be a top five pick, you know, you're going to have a lot of questions next year, but obviously the talent no one can argue with that. The the stink of a team that carries over an off season because you remember what the team was. And then they just keep getting discredited the entire time of like, Hey, do you remember how bad it was and how, you know, how far behind the eight ball that the dolphins are like I was looking up their numbers. They're absorbing $180 million in dead cap this year. Like 60% of their salaries devoted to players not on the team. So it's like, it's not just like bad. It's like they don't have a roster. It was so funny when we went through their team on the divisional previews and we're like, their losses is their offense. Like that, like, okay, who did they lose? They lost their 2026 dolphins. I mean, it's like two has gone Tyreex gone, Waddles gone. Everyone is Mike McDaniel's gone. You know, Devon H and is the Will Smith meme standing around in the empty house like, where'd everybody go? I don't think I'm telling people to trade him away because everybody else can sniff it out and say, Hey, I'm going to get him at $80 and it's on the dollar. But I feel like he's just one of those things. He's a talented player. He can still be a top 10 running back. But you probably lost some just overall value from the objects of what this team is. I mean, that's a great way to frame it too. Like, if you have him, like you said, everybody in your league knows what's happening with the dolphins. And so there are those concerns from everybody, mostly out there. And as a result, like you said, people are going to try to get him for a little cheaper than maybe what he's actually worth. I would just hold him in that instance. Now in a startup, if we're using these tiers in that aspect, like give me gente, give me love, give me Hampton in a startup over the money chain. And that's kind of how I would frame it. Just viewing those two differently, whether it's already on your roster or not, that's how I would do it. All right. Next tier is tier three. I'm calling them the studly RB ones. And it's an interesting group. It's James Cook, Jonathan Taylor and Kenneth Walker, the third who are all at this stage in their career. It's like, man, these guys have been good. Although Kenneth Walker has never been inside the top 15 at the position. So we need to at least throw that out there. I'm rooting for Kenneth Walker. And yet I'm also like a body of work looking at man. We've lived off of a lot of hope. And it has to come through. And we're ranking him here because we think he deserves it. But he also hasn't done it at all. Can I rename your tier from studly RB ones? Yeah. To middle age stars. Like, this is what they are. You know what I mean? Like I know Ken Walker hasn't finished great yet is projected to. But if these guys were just two years younger, they'd be in the other tier. It's, you know, James Cook. And care to Jonathan Taylor. Are you kidding me? Like they, you know, Jonathan Taylor was the running back one last year has been the until the injury to Daniel Jones has been the running back one on a course of a season could could be the running back one this year. James Cook just literally led to NFL in rushing. Like he could and he's on the bills. He could score 18 touchdowns again. He could be the number one running back. Or you know, with his past catching, maybe top three. Both these guys could be top three. It's just their age. They're, you know, they're basically 27 years old. James Cook, a Jonathan Taylor. And so it's hard to, it's hard to put them up into the next tier because like, you know, if I, you know, if I had Jonathan Taylor, I'd trade them straight up for everyone we just talked about in the last year. Taylor is interesting and at a crossroads. And I know Betts, you want to bring up some numbers too. But like when I'm looking at the team level stuff and what they were really good at, like there are some variables here for a player in the last year of his contract. I mean, that's part of it, right? It's just the contract situation. But I would think that they'll get something done with Taylor here in the very near future. I don't know if that's a lucrative, you know, four year deal or something, but a very high paid two year deal or something like that. I think is very likely. But maybe not. You know, NFL teams do interesting things all the time. So there's just that situation where we need to monitor with the contract. He's entering the final year of his deal. He's also entering your seven in the NFL. And you know, like Jason said, not young, but not old, you know, 27 and a half years old. So he turns 28 in January. I just want to highlight people for people that have the dynasty pass. Marbana eloquins, dynasty life cycles. I literally referenced like once a week, just kind of looking through player archetypes and kind of where the fall off generally happens. Like how far into a player's career, how old they are, that's kind of stuff. His studies at the running by positions showed like most of the decline happens at age 28 or 29. And so I'm not saying Jonathan Taylor is going to be bad this year or next year. We just saw what the arch Henry did for the last four years that we all said it's going to fall off. He's going to fall off. He didn't. And there are outliers that exist. I think Jonathan Taylor might be one of those outliers. So obviously I'm not saying panic sell, but just considering what you might get in a trade market for him, if you can get an absolute haul, I would at least listen to that just because of the fact that he is entering your seven. There's the contract stuff. The cults, I think kind of caught everybody by surprise last year. A magical season with anal zones and Jonathan Taylor ripping off 40 yard touchdowns and 80 yard touchdown runs and just an unbelievable season. Naturally, you're going to expect progression off of 20 touchdowns a year ago. So I just think the optics and the perspective around Jonathan Taylor next year will probably feel different is how I'm treating the cults this year. I just think they kind of caught everybody by surprise next year. But that's just a short term thing to consider. Obviously, still going to project for a million touches given the state of the depth chart. You could convince me that any of these three cook Taylor Walker have the most rushing touchdowns or lead the league and rushing touchdowns against it's on the table. Who do you think would be the cheapest to acquire in a trade? If you're trying to trade for them, probably Kenneth Walker. Kenneth Walker is I think so. It depends on who you're talking to. Right. He's the youngest of the group, but he doesn't really seem like he like he's only 25, which is is a pretty good age for a running back where you don't feel like you have to get rid of him now versus 27 for Taylor is like, okay, I've got some prime left. But when when do I get caught holding the bag? Walker feels older though, because you know, he's he's been in the league. He's on a second contract for a new team. That's kind of when when running backs do that part of their career, you just feel like they're about 27 or 26. And so he came into the league a little younger. He hasn't done anything anything yet. I think some people would be happy to trade them on the hype, not believing that it's going to happen. He has a huge range of outcomes. You know, some people Mike believe he's, you know, going to be a top three running back this year. I'm not I'm not going to be able to trade for Kenneth Walker from Mike. But other people are very pessimistic because of, you know, we've seen four years of Kenneth Walker disappointing one way or the other. And so if they're like, Hey, I can get I can cash in here. I think you can acquire Kinbone. Interesting. Yeah, I agree. I think it is league dependent based off of if somebody's kind of held Walker, like hoping for charbonate to get out of the way the last couple years and now that like finally we have it, it's going to take a moment to like to get to get Kenneth Walker. But the guy I was going to talk about real quick with that is just I don't know what it is. I feel like James Cook like we always kind of like you him as like a tier or two like below some of the other names around him and NADP. But like the dude just keeps delivering every single year. So I don't know. I just felt there's like this stigma on James Cook part of it, I think, is if he had the receiving role that we know he can do. He would be one of these guys that's like unbelievable. And he's already great. He's already really, really good. But you know, Kyle has it in the doctor. Only average 1.9 receptions per game. Like if they can just get him more looks in the past game, he can be next level. I just yeah, whenever you get in that, come on. When I was saying all three of these guys could be the number one running back or, or you know, just a minute ago talking about John and the Taylor James Cook, I took that back because I don't think James Cook can be the number one simply because of his past catching, you know, 33 receptions last year, 32 receptions the year prior. Joe Brady is still running this offense. I don't think it's going to change much. The addition of DJ Moore is not going to, you know, there might be a screen or two that would have been called for James Cook that now goes to DJ Moore. So he's awesome. I mean, 1600 yards this last year, 18 touchdowns the year prior. But the receiving profile is what really hurts him, I think. What's so funny is that coming into the league, that was hard of his MO. And when they took him, it was kind of a surprise pick in the second round out of Georgia. And he's kind of morphed into he's really good between the tackles like way better than people realize for somebody who's not huge. Has he's exposed to plays yet in the passing game? You mentioned it's like, I feel like there's more there, but then he's stuck in an offense that's just not going to target.
him that way. Let me just never going to. Let me ask you. So we saw, um, you know, Dalvin James Cook is older brother. Of course. Be a league winner, a superstar, be what James Cook is now for the Vikings. You brought him up earlier bets. He was one of those guys that hoofed. I mean, he went from I'm awesome. I'm a league winner. I'm a first top half first round draft pick to I don't do football no more just vanished direct quote. Yeah. Is this genetic? Is this going to be one of those, you know, look, James Dalvin Cook, the younger brother, the bill is he going to have a similar end to his career where, you know, he'll be great this year and then poof he'll vanish. Is that what the cooks do? I don't know. It's a genetic study. Can I throw out a variable? Yeah. All of us. Please. Because this team has been basically the best at running the ball, especially in 11 personnel the last really four or five years. And then there are offensive line coach who has been basically the guy in the Josh Allen era just retired. I know that for some people. This is like not a big deal when it comes to coaching stuff, but offensive line systems matter. And I think bets would definitely testify to that about Philly and the way that that works. But they have things that are changing. They they have an offensive line that's shifting. Their fullbacks also gone. I just wonder like eventually those things don't just stay the same forever. And when you don't have the same continuity. So I just say like it wouldn't shock me if maybe not this year, but the year after we're looking up and say, wow, James Cook, he's fine. He can still be a top 15-ish running Mac. But the value that you had before is gone. And maybe if you're containing this year, just write it out because like don't don't get too cute. I do love that you're bringing this up because you know, we try to dive as deep as we can, but keep it shallow. Like we, you know, behind the scenes were digging and mining and doing all sorts of data research. And then here we try to, you know, bring the results, the goal that has been mined without the dirt. People don't really track offensive line coaches. What? Very often. But we have seen that in the past. There are a handful of awesome ones, great ones. And when they leave or when they change teams, they bring that with them. Offensive line is a different basis. It's very, it's a kind to like, an offensive coordinator of an offense. The impact that that has and everyone knows that. Like we, you play fantasy for three years and you're like, oh my gosh, I need to be with this coordinator. You know, I need a, a Kellan Moore who's fast pace and always, you know, throwing passing rate over expectation, all that stuff. If you lose a great offensive line coach, you can try to replace him and get lucky, but you probably won't. And the continuity, the way that a line works together, that'll be really interesting. I'm going to keep my eyes on that this year. And now that makes me have like one little, one little, it's not even yellow. It's like a little checkered flag in the back of my mind. Like I want to, I want to watch that offensive line this year. I think another example of this. And Jason, you can probably speak to this. Remember entering last year, we talked about the Cowboys. Like they're going to be a shootout team. They're going to build the plane around Dac. And obviously they did. But Javante Williams was awesome. And everybody kept coming into the into the season saying they can't run the football. How can they run the football with this personnel Clayton Adams came over from Arizona and they had an awesome run scheme. Yeah. For a handful of years when he was there and we saw what he did in Dallas, which Javante Williams, who we all wrote off and said was done. And so yeah, it's a huge factor. And I think a little bit underutilized in our in our game. I just also have to mention that Joe Brady, he little smugged to me. And also just like the context of the team is like he staged a coup. Right. Like he had to have been just slowly just saying stuff to Brandon Bean and the owner and be like the real problem here. It's McDerman. We got to get rid of real problem here. It's key on Coleman. It's like he had to have been just slowly whispering stuff. And he got Josh Allen on his team, which I played color wise. He's been awesome for Josh Allen. I'm not trying to say that. But it feels a little fishy to me. And I'm not trying to throw out like conspiracy theory stuff. But like it's gross. It's gross that like he's the one that takes over and they fire head coach who's been really successful. Yeah. It's it's I wasn't a fan of this maneuver. I understood if you can't get over the hump that you have to fire a good head coach. Because I think McDerman was a good head coach. And so I can understand that it's just wild and weird to me to be like we need that change. We need to get over the hump. Let's keep our offensive coordinator and make him the head coach and just try this. I mean, maybe it'll work sometimes. I mean, I remember back in the day thinking what an idiotic this is one of the all timers. Like I think we've got a couple all time all time whips, which is back in the day. I think it was like year two of Devonte Adams Mike just basically saying Devonte Adams stinks. This guy sucks. He was terrible. He was terrible. He was not wrong. But then he obviously became Devonte Adams, you know, a potential hall of famer. And then for me, I just thought it was wild, nonsensical, nepotistic idiocy to hire a 32 year old baby boy, Sean McVeigh for the Rams. So, you know, I don't love this Joe Brady move, but maybe it is good. I never thought Joe Brady was that good man. Looking back, Joe Brady is not one. Like he always gets off to hot start. He's bounced around and then he kind of gets figured out. And I've never looked at Joe Brady is like a real guy. I want to target. And the fact that he's been so good with Josh Allen, that will never convince me ever because everyone would be good with Josh Allen. It's I mean, Adam coach, Josh Allen, he would be good. Yeah, it's like Adam Gays was, oh, he's going to be the greatest. He look at his offense. No, it wasn't Adam Gays. It was Peyton freaking manning. I could be, you're not even an offensive coordinator when you got Peyton Manning. It's like those type of things. Matt Nagy, oh, he's so good. No, Patrick Mahomes, you know, or, or, you know, it's just those things where I'm not convinced that Joe Brady is that great. The other thing too, and not to make this a bill's conversation that it's turning into, but we see this all the time with guys that are play callers that get head coaching jobs. You're taking on a lot more in your day to day duties, right? Like you're leaving the entire team. You can't just focus on just your offensive play calling duties. And we've seen guys get that role and then like, oh, actually, I'm better just as a play crawler. And that's not bad. It's just kind of the reality of some coaches. So we'll see. I think most people are just like, oh, they'll be great because they're always great. And Josh Allen is too good for this thing to actually like fail, but I do think it's at least worth considering like, this is a variable that we need to at least put into the equation this year. Allen had the lowest eight out of his career. 21% of his attempts were behind line of scrimmage. And then everybody points the fingers at it's because your wider sewers stink. It's like, there's also a systemic part of how they built the team. I think it's the GM. And maybe it's me just saying for sure, dude, being love sniffing his farts and he's done it for years. And he kind of got away with it by just saying it's big dormant's fault. It is such a shame. They didn't win the Super Bowl last year. I mean, that was that was the path that was cleared. I think I think most everyone wanted the bills to win a Super Bowl last year. Obviously, you want your team first, but then outside of that, unless you're a division rival or something, everyone was like, this is your chance. And the poor bills franchise in fan base. What a freaking great fan base. You have not won. You have been close and not won it a hundred times. And they are still out there in the freezing cold jumping on tables, getting hyped for their team. Ah, man, they deserve it. They deserve it way more than us Cardinals fans. Do do Philly fans? I mean, because Philly fans are like, we love us and we hate everybody else in the world. So they do they at least like respect Josh Allen. No, he's terrible. Philly fans. I mean, he wishes he could be Jill and Hertz. Are you kidding me? Oh, man. All right. Let's say quick break and we'll keep moving on. All right. We are into tier four. And we're only going to go through a couple more. Because honestly, once you start to get to about RB 25 people, which you could find all of our rankings and dynasty rankings in as a role of the dice for a lot of part time players. But at tier four, I'm calling them make or break RB ones because I think everybody could convince themselves. These guys are an RB one and dynasty. They're a top 12 guy. But there's some variables at place. We have Chase Brown, Christian McCaffrey, Breeze Hall, Travion Henderson, and Sequan Barkley. Like all of these guys, it would not shock me if a year from now we're saying, oh, those dudes bottomed out or those dudes did not have a great season. For instance, Chase Brown, who's been awesome the last couple of years. We need an extension to really get the value out of him. He's 26 years old. He's entering his final year of his deal. And I feel like the schedule says that he will be awesome this year. And there's no competition really on the team. But it's hard and dynasty to say I'm going to trade for this player and say, you know, he's worth two first. Because that's basically what you have to pay if somebody sees him as the RB 10 dynasty. Chase Brown to me is like russian rice. He is
a league winning upside talent who's going to score so many fantasy points and isn't too old that could vanish that could just you know the stick of dynamite because he's not under contract every offseason the last couple years you're like oh the draft are they gonna do it are they gonna replace them now Kyle you brought up there's no superstar as of this moment uh first round consensus mock board drafted running back in the 27 draft so that's that's helpful just like this year was kind of a week after Jeremiah Love and and price it's hard to go to the draft and just replace chase Brown so maybe a dynasty player needs to look at that and say the odds are there won't be a guy to just replace chase Brown and therefore they might sign them to a two-year deal if he signs a two-year deal he's gonna score so many fantasy points for as long as he is the guy for the bangles and that's the same with rushy rice uh in the sense of like he's gonna be a top five wide receiver fantasy scoring points as long as he is a chief and on the field I don't know if he's on the field or a chief and so that's always the fear of chase Brown he seems so replaceable but I don't know that the people are out there to replace them with I'm glad you brought that up because I do think from a superstar talent level perspective like chase Brown is not there right obviously nobody's shocked to hear that but sometimes in fantasy football opportunity on good offenses is what you need and so like you said if he does get this extension that they've kind of hinted at I mean we're still waiting but if he does get that I feel so much better about chase Brown obviously for the next couple of seasons but we see this often with running backs that are not in the elite Derek Henry Jonathan Taylor, Sequel Barclay, Outlier category that when they do hit 27 28 like it starts to kind of go quicker than other backs so I think chase Brown is an awesome awesome piece if you're content of this year I'm super excited about him in redraf leagues he does feel shaky to me in dynasty and maybe that will change if we get an extension here but yeah I'm glad you brought that up Jason because he he does feel a little fragile call your shot chase Brown dynasty will he be he's in the last year of his deal will he be the starter next year without a marquee replacement for the bangles barring injury I think so I think so too I I I I didn't I wouldn't have said that a year ago yeah I completely agree I think he will to looking at the free agent class and the in the incoming running back class if that's the case then chase Brown is a very good target in dynasty because it because most ever you know you've got a basically call your shot does he have three years left or is this the last year because it's pretty much one of those two options right and I think his life like he gets comp to Eccler a lot very similar skill set but it's like I was thinking about how Aaron Jones was always this like efficient pass catcher who even had life like afterwards in the next part of his career where you know when chase Brown's 28 or 29 years old he can still be valuable for an NFL offense as part of a 1 a 1 b committee I just think you have a awesome season setting up for the bangles favorite in 15 of their 17 where I mean you could have a monster season for the team and then a year from now they extend him because he was part of that run so I think you have to call your shot and I think the price is probably as low as it's going to get now unless he bottoms out which were like that's the point of this tier is things could change a year from now breeze hall resurrected his value and stabilized it and yet we still might have the exact same problem of this team not having any scoring opportunities for him to score fantasy points which we need all the time trapeon Henderson we could look up a year from now and be like why are we still not getting these opportunities I think he will and I'm treating him as if trapeon Henderson actually tears up like I have been a league and I'm thinking about him more in tier three at the running back position because I think that's what they can do but that's not a guarantee that's what stinks about calling your shot now for any of these guys like would you trade a first and a second for chase brown because that's what it's probably cost I probably wouldn't but I get it it's more than a first yeah more than a first if if it's not next year if I can go two years out I would do that and I'd like to break up the years within that I don't want to give a first and second the same draft simply because I think that would be you know you're you're deleting one of your years of being able to rebuild so I like you know if if I could do a 28 first and a 29 second you probably won't get that done but I would offer that I love the Jason's kind of crafting his own terms on this it's great yeah you know we need Jason can you court and Sutton this thing for us to just tell us that chase brown is definitely not getting the chase brown is signing an extension and I cannot wait for that alert to hit you know in two or three days that'd be beautiful come on I traded away last year chase brown and a second for Traveon Henderson and I thought I'd won that deal and I thought I've lost that deal about five times and now they're in the same tier it feels about right yeah that's the craziest thing yeah it does feel about right they belong in the same tier but you got three extra years on chase brown and it's sealing I will see a little trade oh and you know that there's the whole you know argument of are they gonna replace chase brown a lot of that's because of what is the investment of the team the team has never been invested in chase brown that didn't address invest a draft pick and they haven't been invested with the financially with what they pay him but whereas the the patrons are very invested they spent a high day to pick on Traveon Henderson which means they're paying him a lot of money too so as time goes on they are incentivized to get him more involved to make him a more core part of the team whereas the opposite is probably true with with brown I would if I had chased brown and I could trade him for Traveon Henderson straight up I would do that I think I agree unless I'm maybe a contender this year like if I'm if I'm like one of the two best teams I'm gonna go get the title yeah I agree all right let's finish off with tier five I just want to quickly mention some of these names like I said you can find all these rankings ultimate draft kit I'm calling it follow the winds of change which is me just typing out something and that's what I'm going with but these are running max we have ranked from 15 to 22 and all of them all of them like we're at RB 15 and at a point now where I'm like man a year from now so many things could change and I'll list off the running max and then I want to ask you guys a quick question as we wrap up Bucky Irving who man things have changed a ton the sentiment around Bucky Irving is kind of just sad like we're all just looking around be like we love this player and yet you know this is where we have him Quench on Judkins Kyron Williams Josh Jacobs feel like Kyron Williams and Josh Jacobs has been together for three or four years like together in these rankings cam scataboo Travis H and junior jadarian price and javante Williams at the end of this tier so my question is which of these random acts will carry more value value in 2027 and then which of these random acts will actually help your team more in 2026 because it's like we have jadarian price ranked as a near top 20 running Mac I do not think he will help your team as much as Travis H and junior who is ranked right next to them but the age difference of five years is a big deal so of this group bets is there anybody that you're saying like man a year from now I think they will be more valuable it's kind of tricky right you're trying to call your shot on some guys that are not necessarily super super I mean most of these guys are young during prices young obviously Judkins is young I think Judkins will continue to carry value I don't know if it'll be more I think he's a good bet to sustain value he could move up a tier it's just because like we like Monkin you know eventually hopefully maybe the Browns get the quarterback situation figured out but obviously that's on their to-do list for next year and so I think there could be more optimism around the Browns in 2027 so I would say Judkins is the guy that I could see carrying more value next year all right I'm looking at Jason's rankings and it seems like it's clear who did well first of all stupid that he's in this tier just absolutely that's not your fault it's not my fault my I've got him ranked in dynasty as my running back 13th off the way above here Mike and Andy have him at running back 21 nonsense cams cataboo is you know I know he's a he's a fourth round pick so the the investment might not be there but we we've seen the team with their you know maybe they would have taken Jeremiah love if you had fallen to them they didn't and so everything now is he is the center of our team he is going to be you know the the words out of town are basically they're going to rely on running the ball a lot and that the center of that is cams cataboo he's obviously on a rookie deal he's 24 years old. He looked awesome before the injury.
injury. Um, he's had a lot of time to come back from the injury. We've seen people come back slowly from the injury and poorly from the injury like Tony Pollard, uh, but he came back in like two months. Isaiah Pateco never, I mean, he came back too quick. He got back the same season that he injured himself. This has been a long recovery timeline for cams, Gataboo. And I think he will be fine. That's, I'll let you interject if you think that's wrong, but cams, Gataboo shouldn't be in this tier. He will be above this tier and the only other name I want to bring up because the disrespect is unbelievable. Sky Williams. We've just had all the conversation about, oh, if only Chase Brown could sign a contract. If only he was under, he's in the last year of his contract. That, I mean, what are we doing here? Chase Brown is older than Kyron Williams. Kyron Williams, who's been the running back six, running back nine. Kyron Williams, who got the contract. He's under contract for like three more years now. What are we doing? Why is Kyron so disrespected? It's, it's, it's, it's Blake Korum. It's all Blake Korum. And I guess I should love it because I don't believe that Blake Korum is going to stop Kyron Williams from being a great fantasy option, but everyone thinks he will. So, you know, I, yeah. So I think Kyron Williams is undervalued. Cam Skataboo is undervalued in this tier. It's a pretty aggressive ranking for apartment returner Jason. Yeah. So anyways, I love offseason headlines, man. They're so good. I'm chime in on part of the reason for Skataboo bits. Yeah. I'll touch on that real quick. I also think part of the reason the Kyron stink, I'm not stink. I don't even know if that's right word. Concern is like we've talked about it for like three years. Now people keep being like, when is McVeigh done? When is staff are done? And so there's just like that hanging over him. But I agree with you. Like he feels like a boring click and redraf leagues, but you know what you're getting with him on a top five offense. Like he's a rockseller guy. Um, on Skataboo, I'm with you. I feel pretty confident in his recovery. I do think it's possible in the first couple of weeks. You get off to a slow or start from an efficiency standpoint. But he catches enough balls and he's so involved, especially with we project Malik neighbors to be either very limited or on PUP that his opportunity to get involved in the past game. I think will really help potentially mitigate some of those efficiency marks as a runner. But as the season goes on, I do expect him to get stronger and stronger and overall be totally fine in the long run. So I'm with you on that. And last little thing because I think you're bearing the lead Jason. You're about to hang out with Skataboo. That's true. This coming weekend, Mike and I are going to New York. We're going to sit down with Eli Manning and Jackson, Darton, Cam, Skataboo. Um, we'll have. So if you got questions for him, let us know. And we'll ask him. I'll ask him about his health. I'll ask him his favorite flavor of crayon. Um, you know, those type of questions, maybe show him a clip of me dressed up as him for Halloween. We'll see how it goes. I think we'll have a fun time. Did you ask him about Managhi? I want to. I really, I genuinely, I mean, I brought this up on on the show yesterday, but I'm like talking to Andy and I'm like, man, how much can it? Because that's their, that's their office coordinator. They're not going to talk crap about their office. And he's new. And because he's new, everything is always going to be roses. They're going to say good things about. So I, I think it will be a meaningless conversation. Um, and in which case, I don't want to really bring it up. But man, do I want to bring up health? I was going to say, I've known you long enough when there is something eating at you. It would be really hard for you to pull it out. You know what I think? Oh, I'm going to try to do. I'm going to try to in the middle of talking about something else. I'm going to try to sneak in like, you know, I'm sorry that you guys have met Naggy, but, you know, and then just keep roll right over it. I just want to just sneak it in that, like, Oh man, that sucks. Yeah. I mean, obviously, uh, you guys had to get Matt and Matt Naggy and instead of Cliff Kingsbury, which, you know, that, that sucks. But, um, outside of that, well, how's the health on the leg? Just like a quick, like, roll over on the bus. Just, just, just quickly run him over and then just move on. Oh man. That's, that's good stuff. That's going to do it for this episode. We will be back next week to talk more tears. We'll be talking quarterbacks and superflex next week. Check out everything at ultimatedraftkit.com, all the rankings. See you next week.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The podcast discusses dynasty running back tiers, focusing on top players like Bijan Robinson and Jahmyr Gibbs.
Scheme changes for top running backs (e.g., Gibbs, Bijan, Jahmyr) introduce uncertainty, with some upgrades like the Saints' new offensive coordinator.
The hosts highlight the difficulty of projecting running back careers in dynasty, as decline can be sudden (e.g., Austin Ekeler, Dalvin Cook).
The 2027 draft class is strong overall but weak at running back, affecting veteran value over the next year.
The new mock draft tool in the Ultimate Draft Kit is announced, available initially on iPhone, with dynasty ADP features coming.
Jason admits to past scouting misses (e.g., Kerryon Johnson, Caleb Johnson) but enjoys scouting running backs most.
The hosts debate Bijan vs. Gibbs, with Gibbs gaining redraft steam due to team context, but Bijan seen as the better overall back.
Summary:
The episode centers on dynasty running back tiers, with the hosts—Kyle, Mike, and Jason—analyzing top players amid scheme changes. They note that elite backs like Bijan Robinson and Jahmyr Gibbs are in a tier of their own, though Gibbs is gaining redraft momentum due to the Lions' offensive consistency, while Bijan's Falcons situation with Michael Penix remains uncertain. The discussion emphasizes the volatility of running back careers in dynasty, citing sudden declines like Austin Ekeler and Dalvin Cook, and the hosts share personal experiences, with Jason admitting to past misses but valuing championships over constant value extraction.
They also address the 2027 draft class, which is strong overall but lacks top running back prospects, potentially extending the value of older veterans. The episode announces a new mock draft tool in the Ultimate Draft Kit, available initially on iPhone, with features like custom ADP and future dynasty ADP integration. The hosts reflect on the difficulty of projecting multi-year performance and the importance of context, such as age curves and incoming draft classes.
Ultimately, they stress balancing win-now strategies with future planning, as running back value can evaporate quickly, but holding elite players can lead to sustained success.
FAQs
It's a podcast hosted by Cobb Organone, Matthew Betts, and Jason Moore that focuses on dynasty fantasy football, including player rankings, tiers, and rookie scouting.
Bijan Robinson (B. Jean) and Jahmyr Gibbs are in the first tier, considered elite dynasty running backs, with Gibbs often going ahead in redraft due to team success and scoring expectations.
Gibbs has a new offensive coordinator, and Bijan has a new system with the Falcons, which introduces variables in their production, though some changes like the Raiders' new scheme are seen as upgrades.
It's a new tool in the Ultimate Draft Kit that allows users to mock draft with selectable ADP, strategies, and the ability to invite others, currently available on iPhone with more platforms coming soon.
The 2027 class is projected to be weak for running backs, with few top prospects, so veteran running backs may hold more value over the next year compared to stronger classes.
It depends on your goal: extracting value early might mean selling, but holding can lead to championships, as seen with players like Derrick Henry contributing to back-to-back titles.
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