Dean Norris | Club Random with Bill Maher

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New customers can use code random to get 50 percent off at takeultra.com. That is takeultra.com 15 percent off with code random. After you purchase, they will ask you where you heard about them. Please support our show and tell them we sent you. I don't know about you, but I'm a big fan of green in all its forms. Get it? And for fellow lovers of, well, green, the club random merch store, as you covered, grinders, papers, and zippo lighters, all designed to support your relationship with green, wink-wink, whatever, and whatever philosophy comes with that for you, head to clubrandom.com and bring home some random. Did you already have this anniversary or is it coming up? It's literally coming up in 10 days. I would get on your horse. And you probably have some insight on this into how much he really believes when he sets. Oh, I can tell you. Exactly. Club random. Dean? Hey, man. How are you? Hey, man. How are you? Good. Good to see you, man. Welcome to my humble abode. Yeah. Thank you for coming in the rain. Yeah. Thank you. Do you live close? I live. I have a place in Redondo Beach. So not too bad. That's where you're permanently based? No, I got a house in Temecula. So I kind of split between the two. Temecula? Temecula is that wine country? Oh, Temecula is in California? Yeah. Oh, why did I. I'm a little stoned. Did I think it was in. I thought it was in Mexico. Temecula. Temecula. Yeah. Touse. Albuquerque Touse. You've been to Touse? I have been to Touse. Isn't that awesome? Fucking beautiful, man. I love New Mexico. I remember walking around like in the, you know, like lots of art, outdoor art markets. Yeah. It's a big art. Isn't it a big art place? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, of course, Santa Fe. And I think they kind of, you know, it's the color, it won't get into it. But the beauty of that sky somehow, that's why photographers always love to go to New Mexico. And something about the way the sun hits it and it's, it's just beautiful place. Yeah. I sure miss. I've been out, you know, it was on the road for most of my life and, you know, stopped a couple of years ago. And I used to love walking around like some fucking town, you know, just in the day, just killing a day, seeing like some bind funky shit on the road. Yeah. I mean, now, that's a comics life, you've had an actress life. Yeah. You're more, I'm sure, based, you know, you're, you're not from here, right? No, no, no. I grew up in Indiana. It's up in Indiana. But I left there at 18. Wow. Yeah. That's fucking Hicktown, huh? And it's pretty, it's pretty, uh, it's, you know, it's it's Indiana. Larry Burd. When he's from French Lake, yeah, but you know, French Lake, I've seen like a lot of Larry Burd. I love him. Yeah. He's such a, but you know, if he hadn't had that skill to leave French lick, I'm guessing, you know, I got an extra room at a Trump rally. That's all I'm saying. But I, you know, the thing is when people, you know, from anywhere, you know, for whatever reason, you know, some sort of celebrity reason, and they get out of the town, and then they go and live in a place like Boston or LA. And you know, you see that, you know, they just become much more liberal, much more cosmopolitan. Right. You know, they meet different kinds of people. Right. I mean, you know, particularly in sports, I think, they get to see, you know, guys, they might not have hung out with, uh, originally, you know, French lick, if you know what I'm saying. Totally. And I mean, I've always said this about sports. I mean, a big deal about this. First of all, it's the only place without NEPO babies with the exception of Bronny, which is why I didn't want that. Like it's that every other place has NEPO babies, you know, even modeling, which really should be just by merit, I think, if I have to pick one issue, to be a one issue candidate about, like, do we have real models? Not that Kendall Jenner is a cute girl, but she's not the kind of girl, is that her name? Chi Gerber? What? The Gerber girl. Chiya. Chiya. Well, her mother was a supermodel. She got the jeans. Probably, yeah, that's somebody I think who legitimately could be, but like in a lot, most of it is, well, a lot of it now is not, uh, by merit, God damn it. They used to go into a village in Ukraine and find a 14-year-old working the fields, who was like just astoundingly perfect looking, and they would take her, talking about turning someone into a liberal, and they'd bring her to Paris. And once you see in Paris, you know, how you're going to go back on the farm. And now it's just Nepo, but sports and politics, ridiculous, Nepo, all over the world that is. This such as us. As long as you have, you know, the name of the dude who was, you know, your father, even places that have terribly, women terribly will elect a woman if her dad ran the country. Right. Right. Right. It's like, well, let's see. We're terribly misogynistic. Oh, but, in fact, we're so misogynistic, it's about your father still, really. Right. So, I mean, that's been as your butto, and, you know, that's, I mean, lots of places, I like that. But sports, no, sports, you actually have to be good that no team can afford to put you on there just because of your name. Right. You know, right. I mean, acting, you know, I mean, you're a great actor, but, you know, quite frankly, you know, it's not something that, like, I mean, children do it, fucking weightletters do it. You know, I mean, fucking, fucking wrestlers do it. I know. Well, they get in front of the camera, and they say some words. They can act. I just saw, I just saw a sports, a, sports, an actor. What? I like that a couple of things. I like sports an actor. You did work with them? Yeah. In what? Total recall. My first second movie. Did you see the remake? Yes. Right. People hate, actors hate it when they, uh, were you the big bad guy in the first one? I was the guy when they had a thing on his face like that, and it was all the, all the previews and trailers. I grabbed my go, you got a lot of nerve showing your face around your house or, and he goes, "It's a little cool. It's talking." And I had this. I was on Mars. And it looked like a vagina, and he used to call me vagina face. The downside of getting older is that your body starts keeping a score on every stake and cocktail you ever enjoyed. You feel fine. The lab, however, disagrees. Suddenly, everyone's panicking about your cholesterol like you've got liquid butter running through your veins. But standard health advice treats cholesterol like a single switch, ignoring the full picture of what's actually happening in your body. Profits for cholesterol is a clinically-backed supplement for cholesterol support that is made with plant-powered ingredients. 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He would literally- I was just like, "This guy is the coolest ever. If it was a close-up here, he would take a few puffs, put a cigar down here." Didn't he smoke it in the- No, you know, he would just. He was arny at the time, man. He didn't really want you. No, but he would put smoke back there. I don't know if they still do this much, but they would put smoke on the set to, I guess, for the lighting. I want to get sick from. From what shit? I was in a movie of the week. Remember the movie of the way? You remember movie of the week? I don't know those, yeah. You did? Back to you. Maybe we were working together. What is that? Is that something I use? It's drugs. No, it's not this. It's just something to make. Jing, it makes a diet soda. No chemicals. Just good chemicals. That is flavor. It's good. I'll give you something, if you like. But, yeah, I got sick because I was. You worked at. I'm sure the Bronson Cave. I'm sure. Yeah. Anyone out there wants some insight about show business. Any time you see a cave in any TV movie. Right? There's one place that they shoot the cave, and it's called the Bronson Cave. Yeah. And, I mean, they've seen more cave-ins than a Miami condo. And every actor in this town has, like, breathed that shitty Bronson cave-air, and the scene with some explosion or something, and I'm on the ground. So, I'm on the ground for a full day, and you know how long days are. So, you're breathing while they're pumping in all that smoke in this badly ventilated place, and then, of course, I got sick after, and I remember a doctor came to the set, and they wanted me to pay for the doctor. Yeah. Jesus. I know. And your beer is not in all that blood. Yeah, we had to have a fight over who should pay for the doctor. Yeah. Like, "You made me sick, you fuck." Yeah, fuck you. You know, people think show business is all day. It ain't. Oh, tits and champagne, but sometimes it's lying on the ground, the cold ground for a 12-hour day breathing shitty smoke. Yeah. J.T. Walsh, I did a movie called The Negotiator, and J.T. Walsh got rest of his soul. He goes, "I loved him, man. He goes, "He was a character actor after my own heart, and I was younger." And he there was a scene where he dies in this, in this, back in the day, when it took you forever to do movies, you know, when they do 'em down in four weeks. And he goes, "Kid, can any died? You know, let me give you a little advice about acting." He goes, "When you die, always die face down." I said, "Why is that?" He goes, "Because then you don't have to be there. I'll just just take some other body in." Oh. So I've always taken that to heart. He's like, "Yeah, make sure you don't show your face if you're dead, because you have to sit there for a week on the ground, rather than do the rest of the fucking scene." I was like, "Oh, you know, different kinds of advice for acting." Well, I mean, like any industry, there's inside tips, and it's amazing to me, just from my 10 years doing it, watching it, being in it, how anything ever gets made, because you're always putting people together who have such different ideas about how to do it. You know, the people who want, the actors who want, you know, very spontaneous, and actors who want it, anything but, you know, like, and many takes, or just a few takes. Right. You know, and maybe the director has, you know, very different ideas. Yeah. And yet when it works, it's so genius. It works, yeah. I watched, for the millions time, in the line of fire, the other night. You know the movie? I'm sure. Like, what a perfect movie, it's like, every time I think, "Oh, I can't watch this one more time, it'll bore me," and it's like, "Oh, no." Yeah. It's so much rather watch a great movie, many times, than a mediocre one, even once. That's the truth, man. That's what I find a hard time. There's so much stuff I'm behind on, and should be watching, and this and that. But when it comes down to my own entertainment, and whatever I'm going to do that night, and look at you, and then watch something, I don't want to have to sit through something that I don't know is already going to be good. Well, listen, my one bond with my audience, I do not lie to them. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not a faker. Even my enemies tell me that. Yeah. So I'm not going to fake my way through this conversation. I'm going to just say it right out. I've never seen Breaking Bad. Yeah, I've heard that. And I have no good reason for it. I don't know. Maybe I just saw the ad with him and his underwear and went, "Not for me." And then I was too far behind to catch up, but I just want to say the fact that you're known as you are, even to me, without having seen the show, is a tribute to how big that show is. It is. You almost can't describe how popular it is, as well as critically acclaim, very often like the number one. Yeah. I don't trust much and I definitely don't trust anything that makes Medicare more complicated than it already is. A lot of people selling plans get paid differently depending on what they steer you toward. Which doesn't necessarily mean bad advice, but it does make you wonder who they're really representing. So the trick is finding somebody whose only job is to be honest about it. That's what makes chapter interesting. They don't get paid more for recommending one plan over another, so they don't have a reason to steer you anywhere. They advocate for you, not big insurance. They are the only Medicare advisors that will compare every plan available, walk through your doctors, your prescriptions, what matters to you. And if you're already on the right plan, they'll just tell you that. 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It's just not their cup of tea or for one reason, there can be 100 different reasons why someone misses it. But I will catch up. And when I do, I know, I know I'm going to say, you are great, so I'm going to pre-say it. There you go. I appreciate it. I'm going to admit, also, to be honest, I've never seen chick camp. So. That's a fake. That's a fake. Kidding. Oh, but you know, those posters look like, I didn't move. I didn't move. I didn't move. He's like, yeah. In the 80s. Did you ever do something like that, like, will you, the, you know, the prick, the brain of the school, or something like, you know, but like in a comedy, I'm talking about like Dean Warren. I did a show. I did a show. A movie called "Fist Fight" with the iced tea. Was it ice cube? No, it's ice cube. Sorry. I missed it. My ice is ice cube and nothing more racist than mixing up your ice. Mixing up the ice. Why don't you just get ice in here and have them arrested? I don't smoke potting, but. I don't even know. This is the first time. Pretty good shit. I want it. What is your marijuana intake? I mean, you're just your, do you smoke every day? Do you smoke only at night? Does it make you sleepy? Does it make you horny? What is your, what is your, what is your, what is your, I've moved to edibles. I don't smoke as much as I do edibles. That's, that's wise and I've tried and I'm trying to do the same. Just because our lungs are not getting younger. Yeah. So I'm a fairly regular edible user, as in daily. Well, that, hard to get more regular than that except if you wake yourself up in the middle of the night and make yourself-- Take another one. Take it. What, what, what, will you take it in the morning? No, no, no. I'll take it at, at, at, in, at night, you know. And it doesn't, see, I, I, once in a while I will do that and I, I, I did it about three weeks ago and I was just, it was just wild. Like I, I did it like, why did I do it? I think it's because there was a, I was doing the podcast which I don't usually do on Friday night. So I take my show on Friday afternoon so I go right from the studio to here and so I, I ate it like just, since I got off, I certainly wouldn't eat it to do real time that would be not quite, I mean, I have the, I have the, the governor of Kentucky on with the former press secretary for Trump and the Senate. Which one? Levin? Yes. And the governor, the guy who's running for governor. or Hilton and come out. This is not a group to be stolen, but here I can get it. I love it here, but it's just not the appropriate time. But I took it coming out of the studio, and by the time I get home, it was just, (laughs) well, you were just like, you know, dancing in the pool, and the like, it just, because when you eat it, for me, it's just, it's almost like tripping. It's more like tripping, really. It's a different concept, it really is. So you do that every day, you're like, I mean, I'd be single, but pretty much. I like it as a way to wind down at the end of the night, you know. See that's it, it winds me up. Ah, no, it definitely winds me down. Okay, yeah, that's most people I think that's what it does. Yeah, but you know what? But I used to smoke, you know, I used to smoke, you know, bombs, I used to smoke, I used to love my bomb, you know, but as I got older, man, that amount of smoke in the lungs just, it just overwhelmed me. Yeah, 'cause you're not supposed to do that. That's a clarinet. (laughs) You're playing the wrong instrument there. (laughs) I had three, certainly, three, three, three leotals. Oh, I remember the three class of that, yeah, yeah. I have quite a collection. I never really was a big barn guy, and I'm glad, because I think, I think that one's hard on your lungs. Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'd moved on from that, 'cause I would, you know, you'd be, ah. Yeah, it was the cough that got you off the road. Yeah, it was good, and it did. And it did, but, you know, we're not in college anymore, you know, it's just, it's just not. Yeah. Not wise too, to hit it that hard. Look at the calendar, folks, holidays are here. Corporate America is scrambling to staff up and the listings are something to behold. Certified ham glazers, lead elves from all displays. Somewhere a person is interviewing for that. Funny until you're the one hiring. Then you need somebody with a real skill, maybe a license, and the radical willingness to arrive on time. We used to call that work ethic. Whether it's for a Santa or a software engineer, you've got the same problem, cutting through the noise to find somebody qualified who actually wants the job. Zip recruiters, new feature shows you, the most interested qualified candidates first. So you meet the right people faster. Their matching technology surfaces, top candidates for your role immediately. 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But I guess some people will be able to look past that or beyond that or be there. But the song, everything is beautiful. Everything is beautiful. You know what? So great. In its own way. Yeah. That is the song I play when I want a little kick in the ass when I get up in the morning. Every little playlist. Yeah. And they all have beautiful in the title, or beautiful. You know, or beauty. It's just. It's a beautiful. That's in there. That's it. Yeah. And Barbara Stricens. You've got to wake up every morning with a smile on their face and show the world there's beautiful as you feel. I mean, it can actually change your mood. I mean, not like if you're going to jail or something. But like, you know, just try to feed me. I should have to share it. No, that's not a good play. No. That's not. That's a different playlist. Yeah. But what is your musical? You know, I started going out from the Midwest. So I went through the, you know, you had no Bob Seager. Well, Bob Singer did some great stuff. Did some great stuff. And I knew like me and my pals would know every single wine of live bullet and we would get a keg and sit in the park and play it loud. Then I kind of evolved. I was just. I kind of hooked up with Cypress Hill of it, man. And I was telling them how Cypress Hill. Cypress Hill, man. I'm talking about Smuggins. I've met them in Amsterdam of all places and. Wow. Yeah. Strange pairing. Yeah. You and Cypress. Yeah, man. Me and me would be real, man. Wow. But. So they weren't part of your youth? Well, they were part of my when I came to LA, you know. Were they 90s? Cypress Hill? They were 90s. Yeah. And when I first came to LA, it was like 88. It was like, NWA was just hitting. It was like, whoa. What the fuck is that? And then it's segged into Rage Against The Machine and, uh, Ant Cypress Hill. Then there was that Seattle thing, which it was too trendy for me at the time. Right. So I didn't really. Yeah. Grounds. I was like, ah, too trendy. So I was really into the Cypress Hill and the Rage Against The Machine and those guys. Later on, I kind of got into more of the Seattle stuff. I love Dallas and Shane's. For instance, that's one of my favorite. And Pearl, yeah. Of course. Yeah. Sound garden, you know. I mean, of course you forgot them. Well, I just named one. Yeah. I was getting to them. No. Oh, yeah. Ligratus. Yeah. I mean. But, uh, wow. I guess we are. Because that was the '90s for me. Yeah. We are slightly different generations then because that was certainly was not, uh, my youth. Yeah. Well, this is my, you know, early '20s. Right. Yeah. No. My youth was. Everything. Yeah. Well, music. I mean, the, the innocence of it is I, I just, it's still a door it because they meant it because you can tell it wasn't fake. Yeah. You know, come on, people smile on your brother and everybody get together. There's just a lot of what the world needs now is love and all you need is love. Yeah. And we have love. Love. I mean, you know, there was, and none of it was, uh, you know, overtly sexual. I mean, there was no, um, sort of, you know, talking about sex as misogynistically as it became or as just graphically, which is fine with me. I don't have kids. I don't know. I'm not protecting anybody. It's not news to me, blood jobs, but it just, it was, it was just so much more innocent, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I want to hold your hand. You know, it's just, there's something that gets to my heart about people being so innocent in a way that was, look, the Beatles probably getting laid more than anybody. Yeah. But still that they, that the world, the world was just innocent enough to want that. Yeah. Like, yes, it's a, it's a conceit. None of us really think that we're not actually these, these guys who are women are clawing to get at, aren't fucking them. But in the song, we're all okay with this, this innocent world we live in where you can't buy me love. No. Money, you know? Well, you can. Well, I mean, we went from can't buy me love and, you know, all those songs about, you know, I got you, babe, we don't have a pot, but it's, I know all the things we got to everything was in, in rap, you know, especially everything became very sort of, you know, hey, Dirty, yeah, baby, I got your money, and, you know, you better have bits, better have my money. And like, you know, on name checking so much, you know, and the white guys did it too. They did, everybody joined in on this La La Paloza of materialistic lusting. Yeah. It's just, but it's just so different than the innocence of when the lyrics in the '60s and '70s were just about, we don't need money. Think about how seriously we take security these days, passwords with capital letters, symbols, two-factor authentication, and we even scan our own faces to open a phone. 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I mean, in terms of how it's gotten compared, I know I don't want to get into politics, but just that had the same kind of thing. But there was an innocence about it. Or at least a more seriousness about it in a way. I would maybe not innocent. - I wouldn't call it an innocence, but it was, but they had some restraints. - Yeah. - You know, which, like everything with Trump, things were always unraveling from the '90s on forward, certainly. - Yeah. - And then he just came along and put everything down there. It's like, "Look, as long as we're heading to the bottom, I'm just gonna beat you all to it and go there first." So, like, you know, like we insinuate that someone is gay to win an election. Sure, they've done things like that. I'm just gonna call her Annie Tranny. - Yeah. - Yeah. - She's not a trans person, but I'm just gonna go, so it's like, okay, in a way, it's like, okay, great. We hit that bottom about the name calling and all that. Maybe post-Trump will, you know, this kind of nowhere else to go. So maybe we'll come back to at least what it was in the '90s. I was just in DC, took a tour of the capital. I mean, it almost makes you sort of believe in the whole fucking thing again. As soon as you step outside, you remember, no, not quite. But like the ornateness, the beauty of the American capital, I'm talking about the building, it was inside, the paintings, the floors, the architecture, the ceilings, the statues, all this stuff, the way it's laid out, is the ceiling of the capital, the dome, it's just, I'm surrounded by so much history. You know, on 9/11, the plane that was headed to the capital, probably that they took down in Pennsylvania. - That's many of that. - I mean, if it had hit the capital itself, architecturally, that would have been the biggest loss. I mean, the White House is iconic, but it's not as much in there that's like, completely, I mean, it's unique, but it's just not filled the way the capital is with shit. And man, you know, it's, I took a little, my friend John Fetterman, the senator, set me up on a little tour, and it was just awesome to see every nook and cranny. And of course, you see also how clubby it is, you see like the green room, or they showed us the little green room they have off the, it's just like a green room in show business, like off the stage, where they, you know, they can go like between votes and smoke, and you know, that's where all the work is done, and all the plotting, is you see how clubby it is, and there's a little place where you can buy a fucking hot dog. - Yeah. (laughs) - I mean, you think it's, say it looks-- - You think that little train? - Yes, so the train. - The train to get on the train? - The center train that goes underground, the little trolley. Absolutely, that was kind of cool. But yeah, you think, when you see it from the outside, it was so majestic, and then of course, like anything, when you get up close. I remember my set, for real time, is the same one they use for the prices right. So we switch out, and as soon as our show wraps, they're putting in the prices right. - That's it, I didn't-- - And I remember walking past it the first time and going, wow, that's so fucking cheap. On TV, it looks like, it just like kind of painted over, you know, it's just, like you get up close to any magic trick. - Yeah, right. - And you go, oh God, this is what it is. I did a magic trick once with Penn and Teller, like just the guest, I came out of the audience, it's a lever, and it was called Blood from a Stone. They got Blood from a Stone. When you see it out close, it's like, oh fuck, I got a bought, that's just the-- - It's cheesy, that's the magic story. Not that they don't do amazing, I'm sure. They, you know, and Penn has been here. I mean, if he's a Teller, I don't talk too much. But Penn is a great guy to talk to on this mark, guys. So, you know, they got their back, and it's been hugely successful. But I remember looking at that and also thinking, wow, don't get too close to anything. - Yeah, I just did celebrity wheel of fortune. Kind of had to say. - Cool. - Kind of had the same feeling. - Celebrity wheel of fortune, yeah. - I didn't know they had to do it. - They do, and you get to make money for charity and stuff like that. But it was just weird being on that set. I should have let that scene, you know, like, so many times as a kid, and here it was. The band is still there. - I know this is gonna sound like I'm just picking on you. - I don't know why would you pick on me, man. - But I never saw wheel of fortune either. - Really? - Yeah. That's somehow I missed that game show. I'm seeing password. 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Get free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada and the UK too. And when Quince asks where you heard about them, let them know it was Club Random. It's the best way to support the show. But. - You gotta solve puzzle. It's all blank and you go, "Give me an S." And they go, "Oh, that's it, give me an S." And then they go, "Give me an R." Up, no R is next. - Right. - You gotta figure it out and you can buy about. And. - What's the one Ryan Seacrest has to do? - He's doing this one now. - That's this one. - That's this one now. - Who does password? I don't know. - And not password, um. What is that? - Alex Trebek. - Alex Trebek, you know. - You know, what did Alex Trebek do? - Alex Trebek's work. - I think he may have used it. - No. - Jeopardy. - Jeopardy. - Jeopardy, right, right. - You say Pat Siegeak used to do Wheel of Fortune. And now it's Ryan Seacrest, who is a very skinny man. - Why would he, I don't understand why he wants to do that. I mean, he's very rich and connected and for his stuff and the music and the story. This seems, it's like, you know what? And he's still young enough to be like, you know, I'm not saying he's the hippos guy who's never walked down the street, but, you know, he's not some old fuck. - No. - And it's like, you know what I want to do? I want to do the show that they watch in the nursing home. (laughing) I don't, I don't get it. I don't, I don't know why he wanted that gig. - Yeah. - I mean, I kind of admire it. - Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's, it's something about, I mean, I have a sister of mine who's a couple years younger than me and she's like, she was out of her mind. I think I brought her to sets with a really big people and she was out of her mind to get to come see Will and Forgette. - Because of him? - No, because she grew up on the show and she's watched it all, she watches it every night and now she watches it with him every night. And it was just part of her, I guess her life, you know, in a weird way. You know, like everybody finds something that kind of takes their mind off stop and blah, blah, blah. And I think that's what it was to her. I can kind of mindlessly watch it and I don't know. - I mean, I do the crossword puzzle and-- - Yeah, I don't do. Yeah, I do. (laughing) - Why is, you know-- - I don't do a trivial pursuit 'cause it's trivial. - No, I mean-- - And I get, I get people who do the questions. - You went to Harvard, right? - Yeah, but I don't always-- - So it sounds like you could do the crossword puzzle. - Yeah, but I just, I don't find it, I don't think it's something that-- - Yeah. - But you have them with? - I love it because, you know, it's about anything and everything you've ever known, or don't know. I mean, you learn something if you don't know what by working out the answer. And, you know, your mind is a collection of trillions of things that have, you've stored in there. - Yeah. - But if you don't reactivate them every so often, they go away, they go into the, you know, disc full, so we gotta get rid of this file. And, you know, so often you'll be doing the Crossword puzzle and it'll be like, "Oh, wow, I hadn't thought about that in 40 years." And now it made me remember that, but games, you know, I don't know why people have to play games. They really do like games. People sometimes have parties, so I'm sure you've been invited to parties out here. It's like, "Oh, we're playing Mafia. We're playing this. I really can't just fucking get together and smoke a joint and have a drink and talk." We really have to play a game. I'm not a game guy. I'm not a game, you know. Yeah, putting shit on your forehead or whatever. Some game where you put the word on, you know, there's just all the weird shit like that. I mean, if you're in the car, like on a long trip, I could see it, you know, you're in the car. And you're 12. Right, but I don't know, but are you a married person? I am a married person. How long has it been going on? 25 years. 25! Yeah. That's a big one. That's a silver anniversary. Yeah, I don't know. Is it? Oh, please. Don't pretend like you don't know it is. Yeah, I don't. I'm not big on. I don't know what's the goal. You know what's the silver with the platinum, I don't know. You know what? I'm not that. You're a good actor, but I'm not buying this. I'm not buying that a man married 25 years to a woman married 25 years is not aware that 25 is very important. And is denoted by silver. Silver. Get on. I really would. I mean, I don't know your wife, but I assume she's a woman, if it's not, that's fine too. And maybe even more if she's not, whoever you're married to is going to want to commemorate this. It's not paper. It's not linen, now it's silver. Do you mean I could buy something silver? I would do that. Yes. Like buy something made of silver. I would do that. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yes, I would exactly. Not just a, you've hit it right on the head. Why something made of silver? Made of silver. Okay. Not just the silver color. Hey, I drew this for you. It's silver. No. Okay. I don't want to work on that then. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll be going on. I mean, I'm going to be gone out of town unfortunately. Well, that's special. Yeah. We'll do something afterwards when I get back. So you're on a gig? Yeah. Well, that's certainly understandable. Yeah. And she's lived with that for a lot of money. But even still, when you do celebrate the 25, I mean, you know, maybe an out of town trip. You know, as opposed to just, you know, going crazy. Going over dinner. Craigs. Yeah. It's got to be a little more than just that. Yeah. Yeah. I'll figure something. And you'll probably have to put out too. Oh. Well, I'll try. Yeah, I never got married. Yeah, I know that. Yeah. I can't imagine what it would be like if I was celebrating a 20. You'd probably be telling me to buy something. So yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, that's just personal taste. Yeah. And, you know, I certainly know people who would be absolutely lost without their spouse. Uh-huh. You know. Yeah. Sometimes it's because, you know, just over time, codependency develops, it's natural. But sometimes it's truly because, I mean, I think of Bill and Hillary Clinton when they were trying to get her to leave Bill Clinton. Yeah. I thought it was one of the more honest things in that whole thing. And she was like, you know, I thought about it. But at the end of the day, I've never met a more interesting person. Yeah. And yes, he's a hard dog to keep on the porch. Yeah. But at the end of the day, am I going to be happier? Right. And no. No. Right. And, you know, put me here. Yeah. I, you don't see either one of them really fitting with anybody else. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was probably great. Yeah. You know. I'm sure. Yeah. Too smart. Yes. There were charismatic people in their college, you know, and appreciating each other in that way. You remember when he ran in '92? There used to be these signs. Hillary's a babe. She did look pretty good. Right. She was hot in her day. Yeah. I mean, you know. Yeah. Not smoking. But what high? In her day, I think Dean, which I mean is women are always beautiful. Don't you? Yeah. I thought you did. Of course I do. She's-- She's-- They've been married 25 years. They're hot as fuck. [laughter] Oh. Hi, honey. I love you, baby. Yeah. How'd you meet? At a party at my house, actually, a mutual friend had tried to set us up for a couple years. Yeah. But he said, like, Dean's not the settling down ton of guy, which is true. And then she came to my party at my house. A Christmas party. It was open to Hollywood Hills. And I knew she was a Harvard lawyer. So my Harvard lawyer? Harvard Lawyer. Harvard Lawyer. Harvard Trained Lawyer. So you're both-- So she's smart. And she did one with-- I swear to God, Bill, I'm telling you the truth. She's blonde. She was really hot, but-- And she did one of these and pulled her-- and pulled her pants kind of part down and showed me her tattoo. And I literally the next day called my mom and said, "That's the girl I'm going to marry." And I married her after four days. Four days? Four dates. Even still. Even still. And married within six months. How about that? And it worked. And it worked. And it worked. It's crazy. What made you so sure? I don't know. I remember how old were you at the time? I was older. I was 38. She was 10 years younger. Right. But I don't know, man. You know, it's one of those things. I remember reading, like, you know, I don't know, physics and philosophy books and talking about chemistry. And somehow, I was just some-- that's the person I need to be with. Important question. What was the tattoo of? It was, you know, you-- I don't know. I just saw the ass. Really? You don't even remember the tattoo? I mean, it's still there. But it's-- You must remember what it is. Well, I know. It's some shape design, whatever. It's not like the other thing. It's like some sort of, you know. It must be of something. I even-- I don't know. It's not, like I said, I don't know what it is. You know what I would do? This is true. I would find out what it is. I can never. I can never. Yes. Make something of it in silver. Yes. I do so much good here. Sure. I do. I do. I help people with their careers. Yeah. I shrink them. I should be getting a psychiatry money. That is the answer. Yeah. And we won't air this until after. So, you know. Yeah. If I fuck up. If I fuck up. Not listening to that anyway. She gets enough of you at home. Not going to listen to you here. And that's what you do. Her tattoo made into some silver thing that you could put on the mantle. I think it's awesome. Yeah. Nice. That's something I will consider. I mean, if you're a little younger, it's just a silver, making it a silver butt plug. But you're not. And I'm not going to suggest that. And I don't want anyone to be thinking about that. Jesus, no. I can't get that on my mind. Right. Ah. Yeah. Yeah. I never went in for the ass play. Yeah. I'm not either. Yeah. That's not my game. I'm glad we've gotten to know each other on this. So we're safe. We're safe. The second move stuff. Yeah. I've never seen Claude Rabbit in the random. But I hope it's. You know, Trump is always talking about guys. God, lately. What the hell? What is that about? I don't know. Because that's pretty. Like, I don't know. It's hard for. But, you know, this guy drops comedy in your lap. Like a drone from Amazon. Let me tell you. Yeah. It's just like. What? I mean, come on. You must have some insight into what is going on there. No. I had dinner with him last week. But I did not think to ask that question. That question. Yeah. Did he patch you on the ass? No, no, no. No. I mean, he's playing, he's not gay. He was a huge player. Of course. I mean, you know, no one can deny that. Yeah. I mean, he was what we would call a dog. But there's some people who are so. Say that as a dog. But we know people who are so big of a player, like Charlie Sheen, for instance, that. Yeah. They don't have enough. Women aren't enough. They need to go. Mick Jagger. Mick Jagger. Maybe you need to go even. They got so much pussy. That's right. That they have to, you know, experiment with some other stuff. Right? They got bored with all the pussy in the world. All the pussy. They had all of it. And they went like, I need a new hole. I need a new hole. Yeah. I used up all the pussy. All the pussy. This hole. And I need to find a second hole. Yeah. That is a comment. Yeah. You know, I'm not saying that's Trump. But it got. No, no, no, no. No, I think. I think he's so secure. Yeah. In his masculinity and knowing that his audience sees him as a macho guy. Yeah. That he's like, I'm the one guy in the world who can talk about another guy's ass. And that's it, yeah. And my people will not think I'm gay. Right. Well, you also call him the stupidest people ever. He could say the stupidest thing ever. And they would clap. The problem is it comes off as gay. Yeah. If you're talking about other men's ass. Too many of us, it comes off as gay. And a lot, a lot for you something. like physique. - But, you know, I always say he's like a corrupt sheriff with Tourette syndrome. He's not wrong that the town doesn't even cleaning up. And in some ways, he has ideas for it that, I mean, certainly close the border in a way that is effective and then went too far, obviously I think in many other ways. But not all of his ideas be cleaning up the town are wrong, but he's corrupt and he also has Tourette syndrome. He just says, if he's thinking about your ass, he's going to be talking about your ass. Whereas, like, I mean, I'm not thinking about your ass, but if I was, I wouldn't, I would have this mechanism to stop it before it came out of my mouth. - Yeah. You got a nice, nice mother. (laughing) So, you know, but look, he goes in and out of reality and, you know, I prefer to think of the president. I'm an optimist. I think of him as half sane, and he is. And that can be worked with. - You know, those Trump accounts, brilliant idea. What a great idea. And that's going to be a long one. - Musk, did you hear what he's doing? He's giving, he's giving a stock one. He's giving a small amount of space stock to every right. - Space stock, every child in America. I haven't heard the details. Is that the rich ones, the poor? I guess it's everybody. Is it everybody under 18? I mean, that's quite a lot of stock to give away. But, you know, when people have a trillion dollars, you're kind of going to have to depend on the kindness of, you know, Bill Gates did it. I mean, Warren Buffett certainly did it. I mean, they do, you can't, no, is it like, in a perfect world, the best way to do it. But you do see people of that kind of great wealth. Because usually if you get that kind of great wealth, you're not an idiot. So you do understand that I have more money than I could ever use. And if I hoard it, all these other people could like literally revolt. And that would be something that actually would make my life terrible. If the pitchforks come outside the gates, you know. So maybe do that, just even for my own selfish self-preservational reasons, let me give away some money to you poor people so you don't kill me. That is actually a selfish thing to do. Maybe, you know, and maybe there are some altruistic motivations there. I wonder about that. He's one of the guys that, I mean, I don't think he's Bill Gates or Warren Buffett. Not yet, at least. Not yet, at least. Maybe he's still too young. But you don't see musk libraries or musk, you know, thing, you know, libraries running like that. But that's, I mean, what you do see everybody else in what they've contributed. And if you look at the percentage of wealth that they've contributed, it's huge. - I think library, well, I think any giving to a library or a college is bullshit. - Bullshit. - Carvet has a $60 billion endowment. - Yeah. - You know, you're charging the kids a lot. Make the, it's a fucking asshole factor to begin with. Sorry, it's your alma mater. Mine's Cornell. So I got even worse month than you. - Yeah. - But no, I don't, people who give to like their alma mater or like the opera exactly, it's like fuck off. You want, you like opera great, but don't write, you know, you get to write it off as charity. That's so ridiculous. - Yeah, I'm with you on that. But I do think that guys like Gates and have given to humanitarian causes and have really saved a lot of people from starvation in such an African blah, blah, blah. - Yeah. - You know, so I don't know that that musk has done that. Yeah, but again, he's kind of younger. - Well, until they pulled Starlink, I guess it's back, but Starlink saved a lot of lives in Ukraine. So, you know, he has the ability and look, he looks like he's gonna get to the point where people who are paralyzed can move things with their mind. You know, he does amazing stuff. - There's no doubt about it. - No. - And what he's interested, he's a, you know, primarily, he's certainly got more money than God, but it's not really what motivates him. It's, he wakes up to like do the next engineering project. I don't know him well, but I've been around him enough to know, I know a nerdy kid when I see one. And I know what turns that nerdy kid on. And it's getting a Rubik's cube in there. I mean, that's what, you know, I've known him at times when he didn't have a house. And it wasn't that long ago. He didn't care, you know, he doesn't need a mansion. You know, now he's got a compound and he just wants to do his thing and impregnate women. (laughing) - And he's a fan of breaking bad guys. - And elect Republicans, you know. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But, can't fix him. - Well, I mean, he's, you know, these people who, they're geniuses in one way, and so they think they're geniuses in every way, and you're not. You're like, you're not sophisticated politically, a lot of these people. - Yeah. - Me, I am. That's my, that's my business. - Sure. - You may not think I'm right all the time, but I know what the fuck I'm talking about. A lot of these people don't. It does not stop them from talking. - Right, right. - And with, in his case, I think it was just, he lost, he would say, lost a son to trans, and he does not like it, and the kid does, completely disavowed him. - Yeah. - And he blames the left for that, and it's a, it's a grudge, it's really just a grudge match because of that. Like, I mean, he's not wrong, that wokeism did jump the shark, but it's just, you could tell, it's very personal. I did not, I did not see that part of it. - Oh yeah. - Oh, it's definitely that, it's a lot of, yeah. And, I mean, Trump is the same sort of mentality of like vengeance, and, you know, as many have said, it's like, he's not really conservative, he's just very anti-wokeism, and some of that makes a lot of sense. - Are you very anti-woke extremism? - I'm with you, all you need to know about Trump is that Obama, Correspondent's dinner, when they, he said they'll never be repressed. I mean, just look at his reaction, he's like, fuck you. And, you know what I'm saying? - Oh, I do. - Fuck an exclamation. - Oh, I do know what you're saying. - You know, I mean, that was really, I feel like everything came from that moment. I mean, obviously, probably, you know, he wanted to be, be a, be president instead, but I feel like that was like the, - Totally. - The real bomb, you know? And, you know, I mean, I'm certainly never held back on cataloging all of his horrible missteps, vengeance's corruptions, but wow, that's pretty badass, to sit there, get humiliated and say, you know, if this was a movie, you know, turn to the co-star or whoever and go, I'm gonna get back at that ass and then do it. - And then do it. - Twice. - Twice. - Separated by a. - I tried to convince him, the first time I had dinner with him that actually losing the in-between election was the best thing that ever happened because it's like in a superhero movie, or really any movie, you know, there's three reels. - Yeah. - The hero has to fall in the second reel so that he can rise again, you know? This, and everybody else in the world seems to understand the concept that it's okay to lose. It's how you come back from losing. - Right. - Everybody says that. Left wingers, right wingers, that's a big theme, you know? Sure, you get knocked down in life. It's not about getting knocked down and how you get back up. - Yeah, yeah. - That's not Trump. - Yeah. - He's, I never get knocked down. - Ever. - Ever. - I mean, it's just. - And he didn't lose that election? - That is, there is. - Ever. - Oh, we talked about it just, he said three nights ago. I won the popular vote three times. I said, "You won it once." (laughing) - So it was great credit, you guys didn't get mad at me. - Yeah, sure. - We've got a real. - Yeah, but we. - Don Rickles, Frank Sinatra thing going, you know? I went, you know, Rickles, what he would kid Sinatra, nobody ever kidded Sinatra, because he was Frank Sinatra, yeah. But when Rickles was like on the tonight show with him, I remember this, and he's just calling him every mafia joke, and Frank, you know, "Bubanzo, Dougan, Dougan, Dougan." And Sinatra's just dying. But if you didn't do it just right, you know, like. - You'd be dead. - Yeah, well, I mean, I don't know, but Frank was not a guy, even a fuck one. - You don't wanna stick your hand in the cage, you know? But Rickles got away with it, I don't know. - Well, I've always wondered, I think the world wanders, and you probably. I probably have some insight on this and to how much I've always, well, I don't get too much in it. How much he really believes what he says. - Oh, I can tell you exactly. - I mean, he's smart enough to know that he did what the problem is. - He's much more self-aware. - Right. - Right. He's playing a role. - But not completely. - Not completely? - No, no, no, no, no, not completely. - But somewhere. - He goes back and forth from, look, I've now spent seven hours there. Back and forth between a, yes, a reasonable grasp of reality, and then it sort of, he loses it, you know. You're my enemy and then please pass the piece. You know, it's just, that's as best as I can describe it. - Yeah. - You can think, because he does indicate at some points that he is aware of things like he lost that election, but then he'll lose it again. - Yeah. - And I think he's honestly losing it. Or then gaining it, I don't know. But I've seen both and both seemed, I don't think it's an act. I don't think he ever acts. I mean, that's the thing. He doesn't really, you know, for better or worse, you know, he just doesn't hide anything. That's what I mean about Tourette Syndrome. If he's thinking about your ass, he'll say it. - Right. - If you say something, he doesn't like it in an interview who'll go, "You're a terrible person." - Yeah. - Because that's exactly what he's thinking and the Tourette's person just says it out loud. You're a terrible person. - Yeah. - Who does that? - Yeah. - Him. - You're a pig. - Well, yeah, whatever. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And there is a part of that that is almost refreshing because it's, "Oh, he's not lying." You know, he's not playing that game. You see exactly what is on his mind. That's what his fans love about it. - And people were very appreciative of it and obviously it worked. - And some of it, you know, again, like I, oh good, I see that, that's not a lie. - Yeah. - I mean, there are times in my life I've wanted to say to an interviewer. - You're a terrible person. - I just didn't. - Yeah, right. - Does that make me more of a coward than him? Well, some people would say yes. He had the balls to just say, "What do you thought?" Yeah, that is true. You know, I mean, it depends on the situation and all that, but I don't mean to get you off on mine. - No, no, no, no, no. - My area, this is, but, you know, you seem like a guy who obviously follows what's going on, but you know, let it, you know, I hope you're not one of those people who can't see that while all this is going on, we have wonderful lives. - Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I'm not that, yeah, yeah. - Where did you say you were? - It doesn't change. - You're a telemarketer, what's the town telemarketer? - Yeah, I'm a telemarketer from Temecula. - Temecula, that's what it is. - You're a telemarketer from Temecula. That could be a song. - A little bit. - But that sounds like a pleasant experience in it. - It is, and it's very, it's a very red area of California, might be. - Is it really? - I'm all super. Daryl Issa is our rapper. Wasn't it? They keep changing the things. - I used to have them on, we got along. - Yeah, Ken Calvert. - Don't know who he was. - Yeah, he's, it's funny 'cause I was there. - So it's near San Diego. - Yeah, right, outside of San Diego, north of San Diego. - VOC. - VOC, it's, and I moved there specifically because it got married and started having kids. So I wanted to be in a small town. We lived in Calabasas for a brief moment. And I was like, this is not for me or for me. - Why, what's wrong with Calabasas? - Well, it was, you know, hidden hills. We went out and there was always people around. There wouldn't be paparazzi at the little elementary school bowl. - It was just for Kardashians to live there. - Yeah, exactly. And some other people live there. But the point is, it was not reality. It was not the reality I wanted them to grow up with. And so I was happy to move out to a small town. - So how old are the kids now? - Well, I have an older daughter, not with my wife, who's 34. And then they are, like this is always trying. 17, 18 on a 19, 21, just turned 21. - Wow. - And then 24. - You almost don't remember how many kids you were in. - I don't. It's the same one, too. - Wow, they came quickly. - They did. - So they had a whole brood of kids. - A brood of kids, yeah. - And you like them? - I do, mostly. - Some people don't. - No, I love my kids. - Some people don't. - No, I know, I know, I don't, I don't get that. - And they're not even abashed about saying it. Yeah, they will actually say, yeah, I don't like my kids. Well, you raised them that way, yeah. - No, I love my kids, I don't know if they all like me, but I love them dearly now, they're the best. - So they're not like so woke that they drive to crazy? 'Cause they're just-- - No, no, no, no, no. - But I hear from people this age, is like my kids are driving me crazy. 'Cause they're so crazy woke, and I'm a liberal, and they, I'm not good enough for them, and it just drives them. - Wow. - Oh yeah, that's very, come on, you live out here, you know? - Yeah, that's not even, yeah. - Well, I guess you don't live here, but to make you lose now, like-- - Right, no. - That's the point. - It's right, you live until a marketer. That's very different. You go to the ice cream shop. - Go to baseball games, you know. A lot of cops, firefighters, and ex-military because out of Camp Pendleton, they move there, that kind of vibe. - Barbershop, is it a. - Barbershop. - Are we checking the proper diversity boxes there in Tellermark? - Yeah, it's getting there. It's getting there. I've been here since I was married, so it's been 24 years. So it's definitely, a lot of people have moved in from OC, and L.A., so it's, you know, it's evolving. - All right. - Yeah. - Well, I appreciate you making the drive up the freeway. - Thank you, man. - Did you see me here? This was a delight. - Thank you, man. - But I got to know you. I'm gonna have you back some day after I've seen the entire. - Yeah. - How many seasons? - Well, six, really. The last season was split into five A and five B. - How many episodes in a season? - Sixty, well, it depended. It changed, eight, 13, total 62. But don't let that scare you. - Sixty, too. - But don't let that scare you. - Okay, I can do that in a week. - Yeah, exactly. And it goes well with this, by the way. You want to sit, you want to watch it like a movie. So you want to sit in a dark room, have a little of this, and you will appreciate the fuck out of it. - I never get high for TV. - Get out of here. - No. - Really? - I don't smoke every day. I smoke for special occasions. Yeah, what I call special is a little, you know. - I'm coming over. - But it's definitely not watching TV. - Oh wow, no shit. - TV is for like, very passive. This is very active. - Oh, see, we have a, I love a show that can captivate me while I've had a, had a join or two. And if that's a show, then I, that show is really-- - I'm sure it would be better if I did. I just can't use pot for everything. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I gotta pick my spots. - All right. But, you know, maybe I'll make an exception. - Have at least, at least watch one episode. - Maybe I'll see the first episode and go, I gotta get started with the rest. Your book. - Yeah, it's coming out November 17. It's the definitive oral history of Breaking Bad. - We're doing this backwards. He says the answer and then I ask the question. It's like Jeopardy or whatever the, is that the sort of-- - What is the, what is, what is blah blah blah? - What is the book that you're plugging called, do, do what you're gonna do. - What you're gonna do with Joe Layton? - Yeah, he did really nothing, Joe. I think you did all of it. That's what I hear. - I didn't believe me. I just dictated it. - The definitive oral history, well oral history and yet it is a book, so-- - Right, but it's all little mislead. - It's all interviews. - Okay, but I mean-- - I mean, I'm transcribed. - Okay, I don't know about that. The definitive transcribed-- - Why is there nothing on the back? - Because it's a fake book, bro. It's not printed yet, okay, but thanks for pointing that out. - Well, it's gonna, it's gonna, it's gonna-- - She was in the fucking page. - It's gonna be, there's a special mode for you. - Oh, I'm very important phone, all right. Oh, this is the real book. - No, it's not. - Oh, it's not, because the book itself isn't it? I get it. - Well, we're gonna send you a copy now. (laughing) - But-- - After you watch the show. - Let me tell you. - My picture's probably gonna be there. - These are real books. - Blurbs, yeah. - Blurred shot, right. - Just unbelievable book. (upbeat music) - All right, great to meet you. Thank you so much. - Thanks, man. - This is my beer, straight and brown. ♪ Cloud right now ♪