♪ Good morning, girlies, it's the Tollos ♪ ♪ It's Jackson Claude and where your hoes ♪ ♪ It's your favorite show that fast by things you need to know ♪ ♪ We'll start your day off swirly, it's the Toast ♪ I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and Happy Thursday, just the two of us. ♪ We can make it if we try and just the two of us ♪ ♪ We probably have a lot of listeners, I shouldn't start singing yet, because. ♪ No, and it's not just the two of us, 'cause there's a lot of us. Well, no, of course, but I mean, like, we never have guests. Yesterday's episode felt a little crowded, and now it's just the two of us again, and we can recap, talk about everything our viral moment. Our viral moment, Claudia, and I were just saying before the show, I think this is the biggest moment we've ever had in the eight years of doing The Toast. We, like, don't really even know what our most popular episode is, 'cause they all do the same, whether we have guests, when we used to have guests. We don't really have guests. It was always the same amount of listeners, which was something that, like, we actually prided our time. It's a point of time. It doesn't matter if we have a guest or we don't, we have the same amount of listeners. But yesterday's episode did numbers. It's du-wing numbers. It will be our most listened to episode of all time. And let me say this. I love Dave Portnoy. For that, of course, like, for the viral moment that he has given us. But also, like, I've really been thinking a lot about Dave Portnoy. - Mm-hmm. - Especially in the context-- - I've won that. - Of course, in the context of this interview, he released his T-by this yesterday, which, like, I was sat and but clenched for. Like, I was scared. Like, I thought he had a good time. Like, obviously, we had some moments where we disagreed. But I thought, overall, it was, like, a really pleasant interview. I think, afterwards, we chatted. Like, it wasn't contentious at all. Not at all. It was just, like, a healthy debate. Dialogue. He left feeling good about it. We left feeling good about it. And I think that's how it should feel. And I've been thinking about it. I've also been talking about it so many of my friends, both in the industry and not. Like, watch it and we're calling me. And I've just been talking about it a lot. And I feel that I really understand Dave and his position. I think there's a little bit of, like, flawed in his thinking when it comes to Alex. But other than that, like, I actually-- I really can't be mad at him for how he feels about Sophia. And, like, his position as the boss. And this, like, we're all coming at this. This is, like, Sophia and Alex are equals. And, like, we're all watching. This is his company that he built. And they're fucking around with it. And so while a lot of the hate that he has for Sophia, he also probably should have for Alex. For the most part, I really can't-- people are, like, coming for him and his takes and stuff. Like, and the fact that he didn't read the book. But, like, I don't know, I kind of-- I felt very disarmed by him. Like, when I tell you he DMed me to come on, not an email, not a publicist, nothing. I just gave him my phone number. He showed up completely by himself. Didn't read the book because he lived it and he, like, has the-- And he's here to tell his story. He's not here to opine on Sophia's story. He's here to just share it from his POV. He doesn't need to read the book in order to come on here and talk about when-- He did not ask us to cut anything out. He didn't ask us to avoid a certain topic. And he was just giving me, in person, the vibe of someone who's telling the truth. Yeah. And I just feel inclined to believe him. I don't know why, even though, like, a lot of what he said did conflict with what I read in the book. And I'm also inclined to believe Sophia. And I feel like it's really one of those situations where it's, like, there's his version, her version. And the truth. And the truth is somewhere in between all of their versions. I do think that-- But it's also, like, warped by perception and memory and tone and interpretation. Yeah. So, yeah, everybody is telling the same story, though. Yeah. It's a psychological thriller. Yeah. But the book needs to be three parts. Like, because Dave deserves a part, too. Yeah, so at the end-- And these are girls who have worked for him for five minutes. They're not even due for a contract negotiation. And it's, like, they sort of strong-armed him into, like, illegally giving them a raise. You know what? I understand why he, like, didn't give a fuck. What happened to them? Whoever wants a show, take it. Like, I have to pay my bills. Part one, my roommate is a crack head. Yeah. Part two, help. My roommate's trying to convince everyone I'm a crack head. I'm a crack head. I have this crack head working for me. Part three, the boss. Yeah. It's feeling like a novella to me. Yeah. I've just been thinking about him a lot. And you said something that's so true, because it reminds me a little bit of when I did the episode with Bethany on your maternity leave. And you're, like, Dave is sort of, like, a female Bethany. And it's actually very true. One, this is a person who was, like, reinventing himself so many times throughout the years. Obviously, now we're in his, like, sort of tee by the sea retirement era, which it was supposed to be a retirement era. And then he ends up having this segment that goes so viral. Same with Bethany. It's like she does her house wise. And then she has her shark era. And then she has her business woman. And then she has a tiny girl. And then 10 years later, she has her own skinny girl. So she starts supermodel. But also, like, what they say, like, it's so polarizing. Like, when Bethany came on the show, she really didn't even say anything that crazy. But it was a big viral moment for us. Everything makes news. Everything that two of them say, make news. People are deeply interested in the two of them. And they are both deeply interesting. Yes. And they're both just polarizing in both positive and negative ways. So I'm extremely grateful. Like, they will never not be famous. Yeah, exactly. And every time they try to, like, whether the circumstances are, like, they try to take a step back. Or they think things are washing down. Nope. Tea by the sea. Tiktok. Gloria. Like, he is the female Bethany. Yes. And like, some people roll their eyes at the things that they say, because it's, like, kind of very self-assured, very confident. So I've just been thinking about Dave Portney a lot. No. And like we said on the show, everything he touches turns to gold. The toast. He touched our show. I've been touched. He touched our show. We're golden. We're golden. Yeah. It can't be overstated. And the thing is, this is what I said to Jackie this morning, because we haven't really spoken. She comes to work and she's like, we're like blowing up. But I'm like, no, no, I know. And I was like, um, wait. Why was I telling this story? I don't know. We were blowing up. What were you saying? That was so funny. It turns to gold. What the hell was I saying? Whatever. The timing of this viral moment for us is just a me. Oh, I remember running. Jackie was like, we're blowing up on my can. Dave keeps like, he went on the radio. He talked about us so positive. Like, so nice. Um, he's calling us fair. He went on TV. But he said he loves the toast. He loves the swirlies. I said, it feels like he's doing charity. He's like, it feels like he's doing charity. And of course, I don't even think he knows the context of like us having this big viral moment while we're being considered for a golden globe. Like, this is huge. And this is, I believe, the type of thing that matters to the voters of the golden globe's academy. So thank you for doing the chesaed work. Dave, giving back to those less fortunate than you. Um, I do feel like I make a wish kit. Like God forbid, knock on wood, you know? No, but also when he reached out to come on the show, I'm thinking like, of course, he's coming on the toast. Like the toast is where he should go to have a conversation about this. And he was explaining in his video. Like, he doesn't just want to go on a barst will show where they, first of all, he's their boss. They agree with him. They all feel the same type of way. They loved it. They call her daddy's situation. So like he said, it's just a circle jerk of everyone agreeing with each other. Versus if you get a little pushback, like you get to make points. And then, and then he likes to make points. And that's also another reason why I feel inclined to believe him. Because like a person who has something to hide or is not fully telling the truth would go on. Chicks in the office where it's like, that's their boss. They don't even like he was saying. I saw, I was wondering. I'm like, I wonder why he's not going on chicks in the office. And he spoke about it on his radio. He was like, one, it's a barst will show. So like everybody we all agree with each other. And two, they don't even really talk about it. I'm sure they have their own experience with those girls. And like you want that friction. That makes for good. Well, somebody who I believe is telling the truth wants the friction. Yeah. Somebody who has like, you know, skeletons in their closet is going to have a layup. They have a layup. Prove question. It's going to do a layup interview with a show that they own and can edit. So like, I actually think the fact that he didn't go on one of the female shows on barst will speaks to his innocence. Yes. But when he first came out, it just felt like so obvious and so bright to me. So I'm like, of course, the toast. But everyone's like, that's crazy that he went on the toast. I can even do a barst will show where he didn't do the show. And so now I'm just like, wow, thank you so much for choosing the toast. Well, so then I did her last night, Ben and I have been talking about I'm literally a woman possessed. I was on my phone for so long yesterday. I started to feel nauseous. And I literally chucked you the way it had to like just go cook something healthy to feel bad. Yeah, no, I literally felt so sick. But I'm like, I'm trying to say I'm like doing therapy with Ben. I'm like, the dopamine. Like I'm peaking. And he was like, well, why? And I'm like, I guess because Dave Portner, I said to himself, I want to go on the biggest pop culture podcast. And he chose, and it's like, well, yeah, we're the biggest pop culture on it. Between Dave choosing us and the Golden Globes, the short listing us like, I'm about to become insufferable. And I don't want to hear it. Like, I don't want to see comments of Claudia's head is getting big. Yeah, it is. It is. And I think I think this is actually a bigger than the Golden Globes nomination. You do. Nomination. You mean the list. It wouldn't be bigger than the nomination, but it would, it's bigger than the list. Yes, yes. I think it's like the biggest thing that ever happened to us. Yeah. So thank you. Let's just like take a moment, acknowledge us basically. And of course, we're giving it to you to be the cool, regular gals. And if you found this through the interview yesterday, welcome. A little refresher. Jackson Claude. We're sisters. Biological that does go over a lot of our viewers heads. And that's why you don't have to worry about a call or daddy situation. We'll never happen. We've got lots of family members to answer too. Yeah, they'll never let us turn on each other and break up the family. So we're bound for life. We do episodes Monday through Friday, video and audio. We talk about pop culture. We read lots of books, both, you know, tell-alls and fiction. We love TV. We're moms. We're mommas. I'm pregnant. You probably can't talk 'cause I'm so skinny. I have three kids. I have one and a half. And we're mommas. Mommas to be as well. I saw so many stories. We're married. That we're commenting that we're like, I just still listen to the toast, but I just dropped off. I don't know why, but I'm, no, they didn't say like they didn't drop at all. You know, sometimes you get busy, maybe your commute change got shorter. Unacceptable. But they, the person said like, I dropped off, but wow, I'm so back. We're so back, you guys. The thing is we never left, but that's the thing we will never leave. We're always here. And that's what people love about this show. It's true like a radio show. We are here every single day, except of course we take off every federal and bank holiday. Except we didn't take off veterans. Instead, we give you a three-hour episode. Thank you to the veterans. No, what the hell is up with veterans saying not being on a Monday? I feel like. To me, it's always the 11th. A bank holiday is on a Monday. And if it's not a Monday, it's not giving the proper respect. I don't think a lot of people celebrate a veteran's day. Or like acknowledge it because it wasn't on a Monday. Well, we didn't. And that's disgusting. Yeah. And like without the veterans, we wouldn't be able to interview Dave Portnoy. Very true.
♪ I thank God for my life ♪ ♪ I wasn't able to do the siaster dice ♪ ♪ So just in honor of the veterans, just give me a minute. ♪ ♪ For the stars and stripes ♪ ♪ Made freedom forever fly ♪ ♪ Let it ring ♪ ♪ Salute the ones who died ♪ ♪ The ones that gave their lives ♪ ♪ So they don't have to sacrifice ♪ ♪ All the things we love ♪ ♪ Like a Dave Portoy ♪ (laughing) So yeah, that's just a little bit about us. Today's episode is Thursday, a special day. Thursday, maybe do our advice segment. It's called Dear Toasters. You should be on the Tuesday. There's like a whole drama behind it. But it's on Thursday now. And I just want to say thank God it's on Thursday. Yeah. This week was so crazy. The news listeners are going to love it. They're going to love it. We've got, actually, an update. A couple of weeks ago, a girl wrote in, being like, "My husband had a friend come over to watch football and I go down to bring them a snack and the basement door was locked." It is my husband gay. A lot of our submissions end that way. You'll find. Um, let me tell you the update. Well, I'm excited. It's too delayed. I'm excited. The new episode of The Red Heads came out today and we recorded yesterday right after. Why don't you tell her about The Red Heads? Oh, The Red Heads is my other podcast. It's a book club. It's like SuperFum, we read one book a month. I do it with two of my best friends from college and our little sister. Our little sister. Our little sister. In the context of The Red Heads, she's my little sister. Oh, wow. Okay. So in The Red Heads, I'm dead. No. But we recorded yesterday. And you know what I realized? We don't have a contract. Oh my, and you guys are not bound by blood. And we're just like friends. Did you and I have a blood oath? We don't need a contract. We've been doing The Red Heads for almost seven years. There's four of us. We do it once a month. And we don't have a partnership contract. And here I am, like, on the day no one's a race. On the toes being like, how do they not? How do you work with friends? Bragging. Business 101. From the book, they did have a contract. That was what was so crazy. Like they had an understanding. But they didn't have like a partnership agreement and like a rights to the show. Actually, you and I do have a partnership like legally. Yeah, we had to when we were making a big account or something. Yeah. We incorporate a lot. We've got lots of business dealings. So The Red Heads are flying. The next great podcast scandal. It's starting. Yeah. Who do you think is going to take it all? And then I was saying. Dana. Actually, I think Rebecca. Okay. And then I was saying to them, like, really you think you could take it? Like, I do the all the editing. Starting five really think you do more editing. Oh, you're almost like self-tapping, touching the red head. That's what Alex said to Sophia. You really think you do more work than me? Well, I actually have a lot of lingering thoughts about the Call Her Daddy scandal. We will talk about it. So we do also, if you know here, we do five pop culture stories a day. It's called The Fast Five. We haven't started yet. One of our stories. The show hasn't even started. No, this is all just like extra fun boning. Call this The Pre Fast Five banter. He F F B. Genius stuff. We are constantly innovating here at The Toast. I have one lingering like thesis and thought on this scandal that I'm having a hard time coming to terms with. Tell me what you're going through, sister. Well, I thought I would save it for the F for the past five. Yeah. So that was just a teaser. Yeah, I want to let it run out like there's a thesis coming. Sometimes we teet. We dangle theses. We dangle theses. We dangle theses. And also you might notice that we're both wearing stripes today. This happens sometimes with us where we are so simpatico. Cumonectic. Color we don't plan it. And today we must have just been feeling stripy. Well, I feel like we've just sort of like been like business women all week. That's true. And then today I was like, I want to feel reliant. I want to be comfortable. We're all flooring with Dave. Like I just wanted to wear my cozy striped sweater. And after this like we're maging hard. We love the mudge afternoon. We're having like a very lady. Like I said, like we've been working a little too much. So we need to be comfortable to rack. Yeah. To discard. I'm glad we had the same. We're simpatico. It was all to say, but that's because we're sisters. And we're erotico. And we're erotico. Oh, it's also goes to that saying if you're new here, we are literally the opposite of color daddy. Like we never say like. Like we, we're sisters. We're not even prudes, but we're just like sisters. There's like, shit, we can't talk about where I will say, yeah, I'm like a little prude. We're the opposite of erotico. We are the opposite of erotico. 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Because I'm seeing all these videos, like drama channels, regular people chiming in, just being like, "I can't believe this happened." And I feel like a lot of people are looking for blame, right? How did this happen? It seems so cruel and so unjust. And of course, everyone's taking their pitchforks to Alex Cooper. Now, I definitely feel that she has some things to answer for. But what I'm really struggling with, like this last remaining bit, it's like the accountability of the public, right? Like, where the fuck is daddy gang? And I'm not talking about current daddy gang because we talked about this actually before the whole scandal came out that like, her show has evolved so much that there actually aren't a lot of like Alex Cooper fans. They're fans of her show, fans of her. - Fans of celebrities. - Fans of her guests. And she sort of brilliantly flipped the whole thing on its head where she doesn't really have to personally share or invest a lot of herself in the show. It's a good job for her. And it's actually probably really comfortable for her. But there was a time before that, where there was daddy gang. And where are the people who ate this up? 'Cause everybody agrees now like, this is wrong. But the hate comments. - Millions of people ate it up. And when Sophia was quoting the comments in her book, I wish she put people's handles in. - Jackie, I actually wanted today to go to, what was the name of the video that Alex Cooper posted? - The truth about her daddy is the name of it. - The truth about, 'cause the comments like you guys, and we were doing this show at the time. And I remember at the time, we were not on board with what was going on. We were reporting on it. And I remember we were still kind of like, we went a little soft 'cause we felt like we had like a hot take of not being like girl boss CEO. This is amazing. We were like, well, no, actually I would have done exactly what Sophia did. - Yeah, I just would have trusted my partner. It would have never, 'cause you being my partner, like I would never not trust you. And I would never think that something like that could happen. - And we got a lot of heat for that. So like the culture at the time wasn't even like open to any other take on this. Besides girl boss, girl boss. Yes, kill your friend, throw her and sue men under the bus. So it's like the accountability of the public is released. And I know the public is like this anonymous blob. So you can't like point fingers, but it's like I literally want, like if you were eating this up, are you just, is your mind changed? - Yeah. - Like is that what it is? Like what has changed your mind? - Just, you know, this way. - All the comments are from like 18 hours ago. Like no, here's-- - Yeah, that's not helpful. Top comment. - Okay, this is the top comment from six years ago, ready? Quote, I didn't have a boyfriend make my decisions. I didn't have an agency make my decisions. I had to make a decision for myself, unquote. Girl, I have so much respect for you. See you on Wednesday. Chloe, Chloe Long. Where, like I would like to know if you still feel that way. - Chloe, do you still feel that way? - Yeah, but she's also, you know, working with the information that like Alice and Dave are sharing. And this picture that's being put-- - Sadie, Father Alex gets full custody and we are loving it. Sadie, how do you feel now? - Yeah, someone actually told me to go back and listen to the first episode, the first solo episode of Caller Daddy. - But then Jackie sent me timestamps. She was like, you have to listen to this episode. - So I didn't watch that video again. I do remember it like quite well and-- - Lawrence, one more-- - Lawrence Cuomo. Our parents may have divorced, but at least Father Cooper got custody of her children. So like, that's what I mean, like there was such a pile on. And so now everyone's like, this was wrong, but like, you are all guilty. - Yeah, I'm not guilty, by the way. - No. - I never piled on and I feel really good about that. Like if I were to go back and watch those episodes, they're still live, I probably would agree with everything I'm saying. I probably would have said girl, you didn't go hard enough. - Yeah, I think definitely, you don't want to go too hard. But I-- - Hey, Jen Mooney. So Fiya doesn't value the Caller Daddy brand or your friendship. She only values herself. Ego has ruined her entire career. Jen Mooney, do you still feel that way? - Anyways, I went back and-- - I can see the first episode of the single Father funeral. - That's what it's called. - It's called the funeral, because I was in my car, so I made a little just listen to a podcast instead of watching that. - It was audio only, right? - It was audio, I don't know, but yeah. And also back in the day, podcasts were really audio only. - Yes. - They weren't video, like they have to be now. - You want me to play some? It's, she's-- - It's unhinged. - And I remember feeling that way at the time. Like, what on earth is this? - Everyone was gasping her. - Everyone is in blame her. - Yeah, and then she like does a segment like questions, she's answering questions about like the situation. Like FAQs, because she's like, do you guys want me to talk about it? Do you guys not want me to talk about it? Like, when can we move on? But she, like, you know, are you still living together? Just like, you know, logistical questions. And then one of the questions was like, did you feel like Sophie and Zootman's relationship was toxic? And she was like, I don't want to speak on someone else's relationship, but he was so controlling and like went on to tell all of these like anecdotes and stories of how like, Zootman was like a bad guy. And when they went to LA, she had like sneaking off to see him. And he said, like, if you don't come see me, you're gonna regret this. And I just feel like if that were true, that would be in Sophia's book, because why would she like protect Zootman at this point? She's married. - I don't believe that for one second. - And she's just like raging at Scooter, we're on raging at all the agents and all the men. - She's like, all the men, she's like, she sounds fucking crazy. She's like, all the men in this fucking industry, you want to piece in this female own business, but you're never gonna get it, 'cause this is my fucking show. And we fucking did this daddy gang, fucking rise up. - She bitches, she must have said the effort 500 times. - And she must have said daddy gang 700 times. - Yeah, and so the other word, my fucking daddy. - Where is daddy gang, former members and current? - Yeah, but also it was more so listening that to see how her piece of the story drives with Sophia and Dave's. And it really does, because she starts to say like, she wasn't able to like share her whole self on the old show. It just was like crazy, crazy, how crazy can we get? And it's like unsustainable to live that way. So she's excited for this new era, because she'll be able to just like take it down a notch, share all the parts of her life, her family and her friends, and not just like, gluck, glucking. - And doing crack. - Yeah, but she goes on to say that she's gonna start to have like, daddy gang members on. - Jackie sent me this time step. This was really interesting. - I got this was interesting, 'cause she said like, now I'm gonna have on every week, like a member of daddy gang and like, you come tell us like your craziest, deepest stories. And to me that's so glaring, 'cause it's like, yes, the crazy deep stories are gone now, because Sophia's gone. - Right. - And so now every week, you're gonna exploit someone else's life. - Yeah. - Not your own, because that's what the show was before and now the show is gone. - And I think it also just lays a pattern of what people accuse Alex Cooper of in regards to Alex Earl. - The ambulance chasing. - Just like finding young women to exploit for your own benefits. So you never have to share anything about yourself, but you're reaping all the benefits of like Alex Earl talking about doing anal. Your daddy gang members talking about, you know, getting bent over and finger banged in a club, like whatever kids do these days, I don't know. Yeah, it really shows a pattern of exploiting women. - Yes, but I wanna say, I don't, I didn't like listen to every episode of Call Her Daddy thereafter, but I don't think that that happened. - Never. - Because of Miley Cyrus. I think then a couple weeks later, Miley Cyrus went on Call Her Daddy. She had always been a fan of the original Call Her Daddy and was like, oh, you're doing guests that I wanna come on. And that really set into motion call Her Daddy being a guest based show. - Yeah, so when we talk about accountability, we kind of have to talk about Miley. - Miley, where you at? - Yes. - Good, Miley. - Miley also took this niche internet drama that was huge on the internet. She really took it mainstream. Like it just validated the whole thing. And it was insane. And I'm sure, I'm surprised that Sophia didn't even talk about. Maybe she was like in such a rut in Utah, and abusing alcohol and drugs that she didn't even realize at the time, at the time how big of a deal it was that Miley went on. But to me, that's a huge piece of the timeline, Miley. - Yes, from the way that I remember it, that was a huge turning point. Because the first two episodes thereafter were like the fall out, cladder damage friends, everyone talking about it. - Her mom Lauren. - And every show has that, the grace and breath and the aftershocks. But then Miley signified a new era. You know, if Miley then went on disgraced, but also it's different because like, Alex and Sophia represent like a generation of women to whom Miley is the queen. - Is the queen. It would be different if it were like anyone else it wouldn't have been such a big deal. But the same way that like Alex talks about how she loved Hannah Montana. And Sophia talks about how they used to dance to Hannah Montana in their apartment. And like we love Hannah Montana. And the reason why she did that special, like Miley is the queen of girls like us. - Of all the people to have been the first guest, it was the ultimate sign of approval, a validation of like welcome to Hollywood girl. Like, it could have been anyone, but it being Miley was special. So yeah, I think Miley plays a role too, absolutely. - Yeah, what's good, Miley? - Yeah, what's good? - Is that all for today? - Yeah, that's my thesis. I'll keep coming back to it, but like. - Oh, you know what I else I wanted to just discuss because I feel like
people are like wondering like what's Alex feeling, what's out what she gonna do. And I feel like and I just want to say anybody who's like coming at Sophia for like releasing her book when Alex is in the post, it takes years to get a book deal, a book proposal and get the book published, print the book and release it. It was all in the works. They had a publishing date before Alex was even thinking about having a baby, you know what I mean? Like it's so not on purpose. No, it's unfortunate though. I can't lie it is. It's unfortunate for Sophia and people would say that it's unfortunate for Alex too, that she's like in, you know, her newborn bliss and like this huge thing is happening. But I actually think what she should do is not be on her phone or pay attention to any of it. Like this is Sophia's moment. Sophia has waited six years to tell her story. I don't even know that people need to hear from Alex, you know, they don't need to go back and forth. I don't know if she will ever speak about it or address the book. But I hope for Alex is like mental health that she's just offline and like focused on her family. Yeah, while people are saying like this is the worst possible timing for Alex, I actually disagree. It gives her a total out because not only that, of course, like publicly, but it's literally like in Twilight when Bella realizes she has that power to make like a, a shield over herself and everyone she loves. The newborn bubble is a shield, like nothing bothers you. And of course, like a nationwide scandal, like I've never been there postpartum and God willing, please, like never literally let that never happens to me. But I do think it's a layer of protection emotionally too. Mm-hmm. Like it's a sort of your first baby, but I do think it also like puts things in perspective for her. And I would just like really hope that she's not reading everything and watching every video because she doesn't have to. Like she knows what happened. It's all of this coming out now doesn't change what happened at the time. You know what I mean? So like I just think let this run its course don't, if you have a new word, maybe like you shouldn't be reading all this like terrible stuff about yourself. Agreed. And especially about like a former version. Who know? I don't know Alex Cooper. I've never met her. I don't know what she's like now. I imagine she's like way evolved and grown up from like, like I said, like the crazy ass 20 year old that they were living in New York. I do feel bad. I don't know how to reconcile like what to me feels like justice while also like because are we now doing to Alex what the world did to Sophia? Do you know what I mean? I don't think it's the same because I think Alex is like too big to cancel. Yeah. And well people have been to Sophia. Like she had nothing. She had nobody. She had zero. She was like the, you know, and it was at a time where there was nothing really else going on in the world in the world because it was COVID and it was just like the world just stomped on her. The world is not stomping on Alex. No. And at some point when you have $100 million, you are unstoppable. $180 million. And even if she never works again, she has earned $180 million in six years. And as we've, as I've heard, the sweet spot for overall happiness is $200 million. So she's practically there. And I remember the $180 million is the only like the publicly note. That doesn't include brand deals merged in something. Yeah. So she is set for life. She's fine. Yeah. The question here is like what does this mean for the brand that she's built? Also, it's the timing actually works out for her because the episode she releasing, we all know our prerecorded. If she was actively releasing episodes in real time and not would be surfing and not addressing what's going on. It would be so glaring. But and by the time she comes back from her maternity leave, like this will have blown over. Yeah. And she can go back to a business as usual. Will publicists still want to send their clients to this show? I think so. I think that the show is sort of big enough that like it literally doesn't matter who hosts it. Like, you know what I mean? Yes. And I think like publicists enjoy the fact that their guests will come off looking good. They will get really good marketing materials. They'll get clips. They'll get, you know, they do TikToks. They do photo shoots. And so it's not even about like the substance, the person. It's just it's a positive stop on a press tour. Yeah. And you said this when we sat down, but like seriously, justice from Mollen Ackerman. Who is this week's guest on Caller Daddy? Next week there will be comments, but eventually it will feel this week's guest. And nobody's just like listening to Caller Daddy this week, just like without knowing everything else that's going on. I do think at first, like some sort of editing was happening within their social media comments because I just saw like literally not a word. I'm like, there's no way there's not one person left to comment about Sophia's book. Now it's like sort of, I think got into a boiling point where you can't even keep up with deleting the comments. No, and also you can filter out words. Yeah. So probably the big words are all filtered out. I also want to say I saw a video of Sophia at her book signing. Just like walking into the room. Everybody was like holding a copy of her book. She had like amazing, like an amazing blowout. She looked so happy. Like it was it was very gratifying to see. Like after all that she's been through. Yes. Although I do. I don't know if I said this to you in person or offline. The only thing the book didn't like sort of resolve for me was what is clearly some sort of substance abuse issue that Sophia has, whether it's like addiction. I don't think she's addicted to drugs. I think she used drugs as an outlet at many times. I think that she might have a problem with alcohol and I don't think she's sober. She never like followed that thread. I agree. Yeah, maybe she's drinking less and she can do that. But most people who have substance abuse, you just have to stop. So yeah, she didn't like something like that. Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah. But I'm really, I like, I saw this video. She just looked really happy and she looked glamorous too. And she's doing so much press and she looks so beautiful and she looks so well as Lauren Bostic said she looks aligned. She does look aligned. And Sophia was like, I feel. Racking up. Like, do I look aligned? Yeah. I know I don't. I just want to say that. I know I don't. I don't feel aligned. My back is crooked, not sleeping well. What does it mean to be aligned? In the sense that I'm just going to guess that it has to do with your chakras being aligned. I think it means like sound of mind very lucid and clear. That's what I think. Okay. What it means to be aligned means that things are in a state of agreement, proper order or harmony, depending on the context, whether literal personal, spiritual, professional, it describes how well different pieces fit together without friction. I just want to say I don't feel aligned. I feel like it's hard to feel aligned when you're pregnant and postpartum because your body is physically going through a misalignment. 100%. So it's sort of the exception because it's not that like I don't feel aligned because I actually feel more aligned than ever. Harmonious than ever, but the physical manifestation of alignment. I can't say it's there. Right. I couldn't say, you know, but if you were aligned, you could. Yeah. The Mazatopsis will be up for her alignment. We're so proud of you. Are you ready for our next story? Ariana Grande makes her red carpet debut with her boyfriend, Ricky Alvarez at The Focker and Law Premiere. We are discussing Focker and Law Press is underway and Ari is making her romance with Ricky obvious. So they have been spotted together a few times over the last few months. He is of Ricky fame. You know, wrote some songs about Ricky. Now I listen and laugh. No, that's not the lyric. She said I could have said that, but I didn't. No, that's the lyric. Never mind. He's trash. I could have said that, but I didn't. Instead, now she listens to your laughs, which is also mean. So it's a very like not serious ex of hers. I need Ariana Grande to be publicly celibate. I don't care what she does in her private life. Whenever I'm forced to confront her with a boyfriend, I'm just reminded of her abhorrent dating past. And I'm forced to dislike her. And you know, I don't actually dislike her. She's a guy for a second. Hi, I didn't. I forgot. Lily J. I saw these videos and I had like a lot of thoughts, but I forgot about SpongeBob. Oh, he's unforgettable. And then I forgot about like the 10 month old and everything. And Lily J, of course. Yeah. And the essay, the person must say. So aside from you, she's been effective in like making me forget. One thing about elephants. We don't forget. But I thought this was so strange. She never even like rocked out with Ethan on the carpet like this. They were dating for a couple of years. This guy is hitting Joe Almanne and Travis. No, who is this guy? This is not tragic. Is he a backup dancer? Is that how they met? And he's the one who she looked donuts with. She did donuts with him. So for that, I mean, like all of this, it just brings up that. It's so bad. It's so bad. Let me see what she looks like. Because she was supposed to be on hiatus, taking care of her, her health. It's been a couple months. Zoom more like I want to see her chest. She's still there. Oh my god. Yeah. Although these things take time, of course. And she looks, I saw a video of her smiling and she looked like she seemed good. I've seen a bunch of clips from Meet the Fockers. How does it look? Kind of good. Like, I want to see it. It's a good concept. Yeah. We know what's called Focker in Law. Fockers in Law. Yeah. And there was two original movies, right? This is the third. Meet the Fockers. And no meet the parents. Meet the parents and meet the Fockers. Yeah. So good. So good. Now Fockers in Law. Okay. They don't flip, flop. They don't. God forbid Hollywood create something original. Like a three-part psychological thriller about the Call Her Daddy scandal. Oh, somebody was a Claudia. You should read this book. None of this is true by Lisa Jewel. It's like a psychological thriller about a podcast. Yes. Of course, I've read it, you guys. That's exactly the type of like spookiness I'm talking about. Really? Was it spooky like that? Yes. What wound up being the wind up? It was like, you didn't know who was the crazy one. Oh, we read it for redheads, but remember at the end, she's like on the bus and it's like, I got away with it or did I? Or something, you know, you like? Yeah. And that's exactly what I'm talking about. Lisa Jewel gets to work. Well, when Sophia was on the bus, they talked a little bit about how this is very clearly meant to be a movie. Yes. It's Sophia say who she would want to play her. She
She did not. I saw someone say Jenna Ortega and I thought that was a really good-- I guess. I'm trying to think because I saw an interview of her. I didn't really. She was like a little freckle above her lip. Like Cindy Crawford. It could be Caya Gerber because she acts now. She could be Caya Gerber. And like who could play Alex, McKenna Grace, even though McKenna Grace doesn't want to do sexual stuff. Right. She doesn't. Because she wants to be a Disney princess. No. It's so good. So anyways, Sophia is very aware of that. I think like those conversations are happening. She said she's been talking about life rights, which is just like a crazy thing. Yeah. And the ball is rolling. They need like the team behind Verity. I don't know if-- I didn't ever interrupt seeing Verity. I don't know if it was good or bad, but like the adaptation of that, like that's a similar story. Gone girl, I would say. Yeah, of course. Because that's gone girl. Is the benchmark. It's a confirmed slide. Yeah. Yeah. Gone girl is the benchmark. And who would you say is your current egg girl? Well, today, Sophia Franklin. Yeah, absolutely. Who? Also like us. She is my egg girl, same. And now I'm like, I kind of want him to come back. I don't know if he like-- I hope he liked his time here. Yeah. Because I think it's just a great guess. I would love to just like have him on quarterly. So you guys should talk to him. I'm like the hot guy. Taylor Swift. We didn't even get to talk about like being Jewish. Like things. Like think I'd be got to Bailey. But like-- Yeah. There were so many things that, you know, we didn't get to squeeze in. Mm-hmm. Maybe you could join us remotely or something. Maybe. One number. And she want to talk about Taylor Swift, number three. Yeah. Taylor Swift's first CMA award's appearance in 10 years may include a special tribute to Dolly Parton. Yes, I heard she might be a part of the tribute. So that's really beautiful. Yeah, and she did sort of, I guess, like, lay an Easter egg at the last award show she was at. She dedicated the win to the ultimate show girl, Ms. Dolly Parton. That's beautiful. But that would mean she's not coming on to like Easter egg us and do music or perform Babylon. You know what? I saw a theory on TikTok that I've been meaning to share with you, 'cause I know you're like knee deep in Gailurville. I'm so deep in Gailurville. Check it out. She's sending me like tweets and Portuguese that I have to translate about Gailur. Like, let me tell you what the tweet was. It was so beautiful. And then I'm gonna blow your mind. Okay. Yeah, I live in Gailurville population me. No, I'm there too. Like, do you live there? No, I don't, of course not. I would never. This Daisy really got me fucked up, you know? (laughing) Yes, the Daisy, the picture of that car that class posted up is I'm gonna see the road trip. Okay, so the Portuguese tweet is in response to a tweet. That is about the Daisy situation. Nine years ago, today Taylor released the hammer and lyrics of Don't Blame Me, where she drew the Daisy. She drew on the hammer and lyrics. There's a sketch of a Daisy. A flower. Yes, that is similar to the Daisy that Carly Kloss tagged as her in their 2014 road trip to Big Sur. So in 2014, Carly Kloss posted a picture of a Daisy on the dashboard. They road trip to Big Sur and she wrote best road trip ever. Then Don't Blame Me, there's a Daisy that same as the road trip and Don't Blame Me is obviously A. - Gayler song? - It's like not a love song, but an intimate song. - I've actually never thought about Don't Blame Me as being Carly Kloss, but-- - My name is whatever you decide, and I'm just gonna call you mine. - Yeah. - I'm insane, but I'm your baby. - Anyway, by the way, what's the tweet? - Oh, wait. - The Portuguese tweet. - No, I'm just letting you know why this is such a strong message. - Sure, but can you just get to the Portuguese tweet? - Long it didn't be like that with English. (laughing) - English. - Far be it from me to think far. - By the way, need to start saying far be it from me. - It's so moire. - It's so moire, I was thinking the same thing. - Far be it from me to think Taylor is a lesbian. Clearly, she's very close to straight on the spectrum. That said, ignoring this, the Daisy thing. And saying nothing ever happened is pure denial, LMAO. There's no straight explanation for this, guys. I'm really sorry, but she did fall in love with this woman. - Absolutely, now let me say this. Now that we're all talking about Carly and Taylor, somebody said, you know, I've thought for a while that I knew it, I knew you was about Carly. 'Cause it is about this like reunion. ♪ And the rivers are cried when we say goodbye ♪ ♪ Wondering if I made it up in my mind ♪ ♪ It's seeing you tonight ♪ ♪ I remember, I loved you ♪ ♪ Came back when it mattered, I saw you ♪ ♪ Standing there in the light of the window ♪ ♪ Wearing that same smile ♪ ♪ Man, it's been a while ♪ ♪ I knew it, I knew you ♪ ♪ There were new ways to fight like brothers ♪ ♪ Like this ♪ ♪ Or it could just be about friendship ♪ ♪ It could be about your favorite doll ♪ ♪ That you and your favorite toy ♪ ♪ That you just found and played with again ♪ - Well, now we've said it. (laughing) - Yeah, it could, it very well could. Far be it for me to doubt that account. - Okay, next time I'm listening to it. - Yeah. - I'll hear it through Gail or I. - You know, it could just be a Taylor and Carly song, not a gay song, like a friendship song, you know, when you reunite with a friend. - I love that. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I have to look at the lyrics. - Yeah. - That's cute. But I also feel like, she wrote, I knew it, I knew you months ago. Like she had to write it with the toy story. Like years, maybe even a year ago, writing it, have they been reunited as friends for a year? - The wedding was in July, right? We know she went to the reputation. - Eris. - Eris. - We went to Eris Tour, but she's a good reputation. So yeah, they very well could have been working on their friendship and just like the feeling of reuniting with a friend. Not even in a romantic way, like just friend. - Mm-hmm. - I don't know, I'm sort of like. - That song is so good. I'm also really sad for the CMA Awards. 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So these two are off to the races of life. - Which twins in September. - Expecting twins in September, engaged in November. - How are you going to announce twins? - Announced their pregnancy in September. - I'm like, she's negative three weeks pregnant. I was so confused. - Engage in November. - God, okay. We don't know when she's due. - We don't know when she's due. - Okay. She didn't share her gynecological report. - That's shocking 'cause most women do, honestly. - That's crazy. - Now, of course I'm so happy for these three, four, whatever you want to call them. I'm of course concerned about the mother. She comes to mind. What was her name, Barb? She was like, when we talk about nightmare mothers and law like boy, mama, mother, and law, like she is the blueprint. Like when you look at how a toxic mother and law in the dictionary, like she's there. Now, hopefully she was just like dressing it up for TV. - Yeah. - But when she had-- - She was crying, ring her back to us. Like she was fucking nuts. - And she was crying about Hannah Ann, right? - Yeah, I guess she hated Maddie Prue. - I guess. And she wanted to-- - Go get her. - Ring her back to us. Nuts, like literally nuts. - What's crazy is they're both such nice girls. - And they're both like, went on right after the show to like-- - You get married. - So long-term relationships get married and have babies. - They were curious-- - They were serious. - They were going too serious. - I love that Hannah Ann Schluss. - Oh yeah. - She's a wag. - Yeah. - For, it wasn't a lie. But I think you got traded. She comes up on my TikTok a lot. - She makes and cooks a lot. - I love like make content. - Yeah, they're like very happy people. Like they would have both been amazing wives. - Yeah. - Yeah. - He was a little shit. - He was sort of all over the place but he's also been in the news recently and I hadn't followed it so closely. But like the general, just was like, he was really manipulated by his producer. - There was a producer at like in the heyday of the bachelor. We wouldn't have known her but everyone in the bachelor nation knew her. - And like the lead always had their own producer and I don't think she was the producer for every single lead but maybe on Hannah Brown's season. This producer produced Peter so then when he became the bachelor, she produced him there. - So then this producer ends up writing a hotel all book which you know, I don't think anybody would have cared about but she did share that during her time as Peter's producer which you work like very closely, it's very intimate. Like you're with them 24/7 and you travel with them. You don't have any phone. So like this person's your lifeline, they had an affair. - Yeah. - Which does feel like an abuse of her power. - Of course. - And she's like bragging about it in this book and it's like girl, go to jail. - Yeah, no, she, I don't think that ended well for her. - No, not at all. And she was like looking to write this like juicy, salacious tell-all and she ended up just actually looking like a predator. - Yeah. - Everybody in bachelor nation like came for her knack and it's like obviously unethical but it's like you're outing yourself. - Like she's so dumb. - Yeah, I think she just wanted to write an interesting book. - And people like pick up literally nobody needed this. - Nobody needed that and now that's all I think of you. - Yeah, right. - So he's been through a lot. I'll say but then you know, then he went on. He dated Kelly. - Flat again. - He dated literally everyone from his season. - Seriously. - Who true? And ended up marrying some random. - Yeah. So I'm happy for him that he's settling down. - Me too. - I think he did well on traders. - Yeah, people liked him on traders. - You get barbon traders like deadass. - I think that was the last season that we watched in full. - Peter. - Yeah. We watched Clare and Tasha. - I did like Clare and Tasha. - To completion, yes. - Yeah. - Tasha and Zack. - And then we watched Matt James. - Yeah, I did. - And Rachel. - Rachel, Kirk Mayer. - I think that was my last season. Rachel, Kirk-Hale. - I think that was my last season too. Because who then was the bachelor right after that? From Rachel's. Oh Michelle. - And a watch. - Me neither. - Yeah. - Matt James was my last season. - We were just talking about the bachelor. How it's coming back. And they were showing like Grant was last bachelor with his chosen woman. And like I had never even seen her before in my life. - I had heard about Grant because you hear about like, I never seen that girl's name before in my life. - I'm sorry to this man. - I'm sorry to this man, but then I think you do miss like some stuff like Grazia Day. I think was really good season. - Yeah, Joey Grazia Day. - Because he's still with. - He's still engaged to the girl he got engaged to on the show. People love them. He went dancing with the stars. He was also on trees. - He's going on. - He's going on. - Yeah, so it is a little bit of a blind spot for me. I don't know anything about them. - I think I'm going to get back into it when it comes back. I was going to for Taylor Friggy Paul, but I said that I am now at the age where I can like watch the bachelor as just like an older woman, you know? - That's how it started by the way. - That's how it started. - The bachelor, like back in the day, was a show beloved by older women. And then they started to scale down in their contestants and in their bachelor. - Like I used to relate to the contestants like the years that we watched. Like Raven. - I mean, I'm sorry. - A man that there are age. So like that's how I watch a show is just like, oh my gosh, like girlies like us. - And we were also like single girlies at the time. - But now I'm watching the show as a mom. - A mama. - And it's going to be a nickname. - I'm only turning in for the hometowns. (laughing) You know what? I understand, Barb. - I don't. - Bring her back. - Go get her. She was so crazy. - I mean, while he's sleeping with his producer, like please. - It's sort of like dancing with the stars. How I'm now at the age. - I like to watch dancing with the stars. - Wait, it's like a dancing with the stars. Change it or have I? I think it's both. - It's us. It makes me sad for all the dancing with the stars that I missed in my life. - Yeah. - Of course, Jordan Fisher. - Of course, Maxim. - Maxim. - He's pissing me off. - What do you do? - He's always saying that. - Comes for Jan a lot. He doesn't believe that Jan is like classically trained enough to be a ballroom dance professional. And I guess like him and Ardom, like every week they could go live or whatever. - I don't. Yeah, Ardom. - Not Ardom. - He's just giving like jealous, bitter losers. Like, glib, going live, watching. Like, they all come for Jan. And it's like, leave my boyfriend alone. - Yeah, I don't like that. - I don't like it either. - When he's my partner, I'll tell him to stop. - Maxim, I mean, when Jan's my partner, I will defend him to the death. - Okay. Maybe that will be better than like you being with now. - We didn't even talk about how the, because you didn't watch it, but the dance off was Tatiana versus Jenna and Val. When like that week, she was like tweeting about them. - Yeah, and you have to rewatch like, just a little bit of the body language. There's weirdness. - That is weird. - Yeah. - Yeah, okay, next week. - And then they were in the bottom two at the very end and Tatiana ended up beating. - That's crazy. - Yeah. - Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Very loosely word on the street, but if true is kind of a game changer, that Gina Shay might be joining season two of House of Stasi. Now, I've asked you to fact check this story. However, I kind of believed that it could be true. - She didn't answer me. I literally texted Gina, a Taylor Streger. Is she enjoying House of Stasi? Because you wonder why I spoke to Taylor Streger last night. She's like, I've been meaning to text you. I have so much catch you up on it. So she got me caught up on like all the drama of the season. She didn't even come up. We spoke for 30 minutes like. - So here's what Taste of Reality says. A blind item alleged that she is joining House of Stasi.
- A blind item written by Sheena Shea. - Despite the show not officially being picked up for another season. I actually don't think like she is, she could be on the valley if she wants to be. She has a successful podcast. I think she's doing fine. - She is fine, yeah. I know, and a lot of the rhetoric about Sheena, like I believe it's me. Like, with this color data scandal, what does this mean for Sheena? Like, leave her alone, I love her. I actually really, like, net net, I do like her. - The blind item said, Stasi had her Halloween party filmed even though the show hasn't been picked up yet. Katie Maloney, Jessie for Mormon Lives, Marciano are said to be returning. - Taylor Strucker is right. - Marciano, no. - Just give Mr. Brunette a chance. - Marciano, no. - And Mr. Brunette a chance. - No. - Press your fave. She seems so happy. - She does. - Taylor is renting a place in LA for test filming, hoping for a full season. Pick up, can you confirm that that's true? - I was not supposed to. - No, no, that's what this says. - I don't know. - And Sheena isn't the only ex-banner palm star in talks either. - Well, I am down for Sheena because I think like Katie was acting sort of superior to the other castmates because she's like, I'm the band or pump one, like I'm the band or pump plug. And like, I think it gave her like a sense of entitlement. I was like, well, if you're not the only one, you know? - Yeah, and I also think that Stasi as much as she has a distaste for Sheena. I think that she's-- - Wait, I'm sorry. This is so not happening. - Why? - The reason why Stasi has a distaste for Sheena is like really real. It has to do with like a leaf video. - A prank in the videos. - Yeah, and like Sheena's part in like, not only distributing it, but like, sharing it with it. Like, no, I'm sorry. I think, and I'm just guessing here, I'm not, I've never heard this from Stasi. I think Stasi would rather die. Like, then ever gives Sheena a platform on her show. Yeah, and then they know Stasi's like obsessed with making the show successful to a point. Like, I think that like, that's a huge line for Stasi. - But she did like work with her and co-mingle. Not that it was her choice because it was a band or pump, but like, that happened, the Franks have happened early days of Vanderpump and there was like, years of. - No, I could tell you, I know. - You know, this is. - I know something. I can't share it because I'm thinking now that somebody told me this like, in confidence, but no. - Okay, never mind. - Because something happened recently, isch between Sheena and Stasi. - To be clear, I don't think that this is needed. If anybody is talking about it, I'm not trying to go backwards and like recreate Vanderpump rules in house of Stasi. Like, I like that the show is capturing. - And it's different. - This era of life that a lot of shows are capturing now and that I think the people who grew up on Vanderpump rules are living right now, which is like the Valley secret lives and warming lives. Like, working moms, doing it all. - Yeah, agreed. No, we don't, even though Sheena is a working mom doing it all, we don't need the recreation of Vanderpump. - No, but she doesn't have to go on this show. - She should go on the Valley. - If she wants to be on TV, I think the Valley would have her. And she said no. So, that's that. - I'm gonna go on record saying I think this is a big fat lie. - Oh, okay, never mind. - Let's dive into your toasters. - We can see it. - Are weekly segments your toasters? Where are listeners like to write in tests? 'Cause as you guys have, I feel we've proven ourselves, we're extremely fair sound of mine individuals. Dave Porto has said so himself. - He's so fair. - And so, we like to give back to our community. - He didn't say the sound of mine, unfortunately. - I think he said it in T by the city. He must have missed it. We like to give back to our community. You guys ever find yourself in a bit of a pickle at work and enter personal drama, relationship with a name or something. Email us to your
[email protected] or head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com. There's a submission box and we'll do our best to help you with whatever you're dealing with. If you have written into us and you haven't gone on air, just know your submission was either too long or too boring. Ready? Hey Swirlies, I just moved to the Northeast and I started a new job. Sometimes the CEO's 34 year old son comes to work at our office. Last week, in voluntarily, witness the CEO 'cause he has grown son on the lips. Smoothie noises and everything. Probably 1.5 seconds long. I don't think they noticed me, but I have not been able to stop thinking about how weird it was. Is this normal Northeast behavior? Is it a rich people thing or is it just truly bizarre? Any input is appreciated as I'm currently contemplating quitting my job and moving out of Boston. Love you, girlies. Is your boss Tom Brady? - Yeah, oh, this is tough because it's a weird thing to see. You know, if you don't do it in your family, it's weird. - But my heart take is like, no, I don't think people at any age are kissing their parents on the lips as weird. I know. - I feel like I'm TBD on it, but I could see a world where it's not. Like, that's your baby. - Yeah, I'm just, I'm gonna do it. So, I'm putting it out there now. It's not weird 'cause I'll be doing it till my son. - I think if you're a family that does it, it's not weird. And if you've never seen it before in your life, you're like, what? That's why the Tom Brady thing was so crazy because millions of people saw it and they'd never seen something like that before. But this Tom Brady and his father just love each other and like a beautiful, pure way and it's nothing weird. - And it was Tom Brady and his son too. That was the video. - Well, it's generation. - He also was like getting a massage. Like, it was weird, he was like on the massage table. But I just want to say in terms of like advice, I can help you. He was like, my drone business and stuff like. - No, but there was one of his dad kissing after he won the Super Bowl. - Yeah, but the thing, I think that started, people weren't that surprised to see that because. - But that should be crazier than Tom and his son because the son is smaller. - Some of the things are smaller. - No, I don't think it's weird. Maybe at a time I would have, but knowing what I know now, and I just know the type of mother I'm gonna continue to evolve to be. No, it's not weird at all. - Normalize it. - Yeah. Get ready. Get ready for me, okay? Next up. To your toasters, I'm an extremely niche writer and for you to have been dating this guy for a year. When I tell you I'm in love with him, he's the definition of a P-John. Here's where things get interesting is that I'm gonna go meet his entire family for Christmas next month and we'll be staying with them in California for a month. I'm so excited, but there's just like a little caveat that his sister is like legitimately famous and I'm really fangirling. Someone I've naturally followed on social media, her career for almost 10 years. You guys definitely know her too. My dilemma is that he and I briefly talked about his sister here and there, never too much in detail. He doesn't know that because I follow her for so long, I know so much about her, her life, her social circle, et cetera, just her being a long time follower. He only knows that I follow her and just like know about her, not a clue as to how much I really know her because I enjoy her content, her TV, her movies. So how do I navigate meeting her? I obviously wanna play cool, treat her like a normal person because at the end of the day she's my boyfriend's sister and my potential future sister-in-law. But I also feel like pretending I have no idea who she is would be even weirder. I haven't met any of his family yet. I assume it will be all of them all at once. I need you to tell me how to handle this without looking like a freak because I genuinely love this guy and I would prefer not to fumble my future in-laws. Thanks so much. Love the podcast. It's the highlight of my mornings. Well first of all, let us just say congratulations. Having a boyfriend is like the best. Having a boyfriend with a famous sister. It's probably how my sister-in-law felt, honestly. Like I have to ask her, it was probably very exciting. So congrats, that's just, we're excited for you. And we want this to go well. Yeah, and I don't think that it's gonna be bad. I think it's gonna be great and I think you need to play cool. Do not actually, you don't know who she is 'cause that's rude and then you're a liar. But that's weirder than being like a big fan girl. I think don't be a big fan girl, but definitely like be like, oh my gosh, I love your content. Let her know that you've seen her content. So in case you slip with something that of something that you know that you shouldn't know, like she knows that, oh it's because you see her content. And also like as a famous people ourselves. Yeah. When I meet someone like say from like Zach's world who is a fan of the, oh my God, we're best friends. No, not like that. So great, like I don't- It's very disarmly like for them, if I say like, oh, like I'm pregnant or whatever, they're like, I know. You know, just do it in a way that's not weird. I find it a bit comforting. But like if someone comes to me and he's like, and by the way, I'm a toaster and it's like, oh, we're off to the races, let's go. And so I feel like if you just are honest about that, like, oh, I love your content or this or that, like you guys will connect and that just automatically is not weird. Don't lie, be normal. Acting normal is a lost art. I think people like don't know how to do it, especially around famous people. Myself included, like we've all done weird things in front of famous people. I would just like practice in the mirror, like be cool. It's okay to know, like you're American. And like it's, if she's as famous as you say she is and you clearly follow her on Instagram. That's a good issue. You're gonna have to follow us. We won't tell everyone, but I need to know for myself, respond to the email and just- - Someone who does TV, movies, and content. It's giving like Nina Dobrev. - For Shea Mitchell. - Movies. - Nina Dobrev does content, does she have a brother? - On my way. - Yeah. - Is a brother? - It seems a brother, like 1000% for 10 years too. This is someone a little bit older. And what was the show that she's vampire die? She's 10 years ago. - Oh my, it's 100%. - Does Shea Mitchell have a brother? - Oh, pretty little I was also like 10 years ago, so. - They're the same. - Just you know, Nina Dobrev's brother is Alexander Dobrev. - Shea Mitchell has a brother too. Younger brother. - This is cool. - How exciting. I'm a little spooked about you spending a month with the family in a house. - That's not what she was writing about. - I know, but just try and get out a lot because you could get cabin fever and so could they. You know, so just don't be up people's butts. - Our third and final submission is an update. So I'm gonna read you guys the original submission. You probably remember, there's only a few weeks ago. Hey Jackson Cloud, love you guys so much. My husband might be gay. A little over a year ago, the company my husband worked for hired someone to split his workload because the company grew so much. They were of course just work colleagues, but they eventually realized how much they both enjoyed football and fantasy football. Last fall, they spent every single game day together watching my husband's van cave. I did the update. No, no, this is the original submission. - Okay, that's what I thought. - I didn't think much of it. Something seemed different this time. On Monday night football, I went downstairs to see if they wanted dessert. I had baked, the door was locked. I was really confused. I knocked and the door was never opened. The next day, I mentioned it. He shrugged it off saying it was a huge game. They didn't want to be interrupted. They couldn't hear me knocking because it was so loud. They text constantly. They speak on the phone every night and obviously see each other at work. What do I do? So we had come up with a few theories. Like one, it was entirely possible that they were doing gay stuff, but also they could have been doing drugs. Like, there's a lot of doors for a lot of reasons. Now, we did encourage you to get down to the bottom of it whether that's like snooping through the phone or like a camera, a nan, it. - Yeah, just one time. - Just one time.
Here's her update one Monday night. Hey Jackson Claude. This is the update I never wanted to write. I was planning on taking your advice and I ordered a camera to hide in my husband's van cave but before I had the chance to I got a letter from my neighbor saying she had a video I needed to see. The video was a little dark and the two people are a bit far away from the home security camera but it was definitely two people kissing next to a truck parked in my driveway. 99% share with my husband and his friend. I don't know if I need more proof before I can front my husband or if I should sit both my husband and his parent love her down together to get to the bottom of this. Please help. It's so broke back when Michelle Williams sees the two of them next to the truck in the parking lot. So let's just all say together your husband is gay and that's okay okay. Okay go back to the submission. Did they have kids? She didn't say and I feel like she would have shared because we also said that if he was doing drugs he would have locked the door because you don't want a kid running in and they're seeing that or like picking up a gummy. He's like what's this like so brownie? Oh, I'm going to go out and say I don't think they have kids. You're good. We're in the clear. If you don't have kids then of course you're leaving your gay husband and his lover because we always try to make things work here a lot of the times like we actually get heat for like how much we're willing to put up with to keep a family together. I think it's important but gayness without children is a ticket out like girl go. Yeah, but gayness with children is also a ticket out. There are there's precedent for it working out. Well, are you do you have a proclivity for gayness too because then it like works out for the both of you. And I don't know if you know what president I'm talking about. It's like a public story. I don't want to put them on the spot. Of course. They're one of my favorite love stories. It's one of my favorite love stories. I mean never really got confirmation that like the man in that story like was he was acting inappropriate but the rumors were that it was with a man but it's not a hundred percent. It's not a hundred percent but it's a love story. And they like they they really worked it out beautifully. This is just precedent. I just want to say. Yeah, I feel like your husband like being gay is a good reason to go is a deal breaker. Yeah. Call me crazy but I do. Unless yeah, there are certain circumstances where it's like you know what? We've got a good thing going. You want to be gay like go be gay. I wasn't even enjoying having sex with you. Like yeah, I can go. I can go. What is that lavender marriage? Yeah, like just like a sort of a situation of being a partnership too because marriage is a lot of you got to break it up like for I think for a lot of people like getting divorced is harder. And if even if he's gay but that's your best friend like that's your GBS. I think that happens a lot on like real housewives. Like there are men who are gay. And it's just like it's just too inconvenient to get divorced. Like if you don't hate each other and you have kids and you want to keep them all under the same roof and it's like yeah you go go out have fun. Like I'm gonna go with my boyfriend like I think that's a lavender marriage. You know it's not bad. There's not. I'll just want to say there's president. But I would if you don't have kids girl there's literally no reason girl go. If the thing is like there's nothing wrong with being gay obviously it's the fact that like it doesn't work with her but like you're cheating like you're lying like a scoundrel. Yeah it's bad girl go. Under my roof like it's like I'm making you brownies. In broad daylight outside next year truck in front of the neighbors. Imagine honestly if it were a woman it would we would be raging. I feel like we're going softly because he's obviously figuring himself out and no but also like the balls of like having an affair in your own driveway. He's crazy he's crazy. He's great. I just want to say like I'm being really soft because I've been thinking about it as like a gay situation but if you think about it just as an affair if it was a woman that's fucking nuts. No and also like he's obviously been doing it for a while because like you only get so brazen hooking up in your own driveway when you've gotten away with it for a while. In your own basement while your wife is home. He's a scoundrel. He's a scoundrel. Get rid of him. Wow we were way too nice. Yeah it's true like because we we have sympathy for somebody who's going through like a sexuality relationship. Where is he? Like where has he just owned the whole time. Yeah. Yeah. Just been cheating on you. No seriously. Fuck him. Yeah. Sorry it took us so long. Yeah we got there though. Yeah. We always do. Thank you everybody who wrote into Dear Toasters are weekly advice segment. If you want to get amazing advice that like we just gave Dear
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